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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2017, 05:30:09 PM »
Awh, It's a little inside humor.  It's so hard to put sarchasm in the written word I guess. ???

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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2017, 05:38:33 PM »
Loren,
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2017, 05:44:48 PM »
Thom (the Rivet Counter)
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2017, 09:03:04 PM »
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2017, 09:35:02 PM »
Something I've never done but am looking ahead...carving waterfront rocks like Doug Foscale. He's got a great video, but I'm sure there's a lot of artistic ability involved. His elaborate shorelines are amazing and, in my opinion, a tremendously distinctive scenic feature that grabs me from across the room


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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2017, 10:11:34 PM »
J~,
       You are right, Doug is a master at modeling rocks and has great videos showing how to.  He also has something in common with you.  He to had to learn and practice carving rocks.  I would simply start small with just making some basic molds and set up a small 12-16" area in which to make a scene of rocks.

My tips are: No tinfoil (because it looks it) for molds and no light plaster (because it's too poorest for stains and paints).  Model railroader did some quick basic how to's on rock carving with John Olson & Malcolm Furlow and Miles Hale redid some of the same techniques later. 

There are mountains of videos on making and carving rocks for layouts. ha.  I'm sure lots of very talented lurkers here could even point someone like me in the right direction for basic rocks.  Cool topic John.  I'm slated to see what helpers here can get you some of that! (Richard Rawlings Quote).   Hope this helps.  Thanx Thom...
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2017, 09:53:33 AM »
Dave Kontsonis has a rockwork clinic scheduled at the Expo. 👍🏻

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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2017, 10:45:00 AM »
I'm really confident about almost every aspect of modeling, the issues come on the ability to keep my shaky hands on track.
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2017, 10:50:14 AM »
Here are the things I'd like to improve on or learn:


1.) CAD - I've dabbled with CadRail and Sketchup some.  I want to learn how to use this to design structure plans for scratch building as well as do some layout planning.


2.) Making molds and castings.  I've never tried this but would like to learn how to do it some day.


3.) Weathering rolling stock and engines.  I have tried with varying degrees of success but would like to become more proficient at it.


Not that there aren't other things I could stand to improve upon.  These are the ones that come to mind.  The biggest problem with #1 is I spend all day on a computer in the office and don't care to do so in the evenings or weekends.  That one may have to wait until I retire.   :D [size=78%]   [/size]
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 07:57:58 AM »
Skills necessary to scratchbuild a steam locomotive - which means essentially turning and milling.
I have a mill and a lathe and I've "played" around with them - but haven't really learned how to use them.
I really need to devote the time and energy.
Hopefully with a smaller layout I'll be able to spend some hobby time on things other than "feeding a monster."

Marty
 
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2017, 11:38:56 AM »
Marty...

You comment about learning to use a lathe.  For most project steps I would encourage you to get in there and just start chopping some stuff out.  In my Falk build thread of some years ago some of the parts were second or third generation before I got what I wanted. 

To be able to hang threads on a part is another skill of using a lathe. In most cases for modeling this is not necessary.  Don't let that hold you back.

Find a not too expensive dial indicator and chuck up something and start rolling it.  You will find that it isn't that tough.

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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2017, 01:28:37 PM »
Bob,


I completely agree - I've made some chips with the lathe, and milled some locomotive frames for decoders/speakers and the like - I do need to practice the skills to make precisely measured components - such as a locomotive frame.
Marty
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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2017, 01:42:16 PM »
Marty

Find yourself a digital vernier caliper.  They are great for accuracy and usually under 30 bux.

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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2017, 12:05:30 PM »
Thom,

you have this penchant for coming up with these... well, questions. Lots of interesting comments.

Perhaps the biggest questions modelers seem to have concerns the use of "tricky" or expensive (or tricky AND expensive) tools.  Around the "Shops" we have this, kind of, attitude about tools. First and foremost we get real HONEST and admit that if it were NOT for the tools we would not be IN this business (hobby). Lets face it; things like stamp collecting - or even Brass model collecting - are OUT! Why? No cool, fun to use, TOOLS! Yuk!

Even my other hobbies, like wood carving - whit'lin', as it were - or outdoors oil painting have tools. You don't get anything unless you use TOOLS to do the "DOING".  Even rebuilding my 1970 'Cuda was fun because of TOOLS!

Therefore, we do not buy tools. We invest in tools! This means we buy the very best tools we can afford; because we expect and get the QUALITY that lasts! (Tools can be like women - good tools are worth keeping and actually HELP you accomplish your goals were as a bad one is about as useful as a snake bite!.) Needle nose pliers that cost 40.00 to 70.oo or more - each. WHAT? Hobbytown sells these for what; 6 bucks? Micromark cheaper. (BLASTPHEMY! Don't EVER buy from Micromark because what they do is rip off real tool makers and sell you knock off junk you will regret buying in a week or, if lucky, a year - not to mention the undercutting of those makers who really value quality and craftsmanship. Besides; just how SERIOUS are you anyway...?)

We use Sherline miniature machines. You can order the NWSL package from Sherline and get a nice lathe setup that includes all you need to actually get started right out of the box for under 1000.00 (a few years ago - the last time I heard - the price was about 850.00.

So, to us, the first thing you do - that requires craftsmanship - is to find tools that help you DO the things you want and like to DO; then learn how to properly use them tools. That includes good airbrushes - I use good ol', American Made (for about a century) Badger and Paache Air brushes. Quality soldering irons - also American Made - Weller irons and Hot Tip Resistance units, American or Swiss or German made hand tools like files, pliers, cutters, saws etc. If a pair of tweezes don't cost you 20 bucks they are not good enough.

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Re: What modeling skill would you like or you need to improve or develop better?
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2017, 12:30:25 PM »
Part two (you are willing to "watch" the video because it's easier to absorb pictures rather than use your brain and READ to understand ... so sit down and think while you READ this)

Craftsmanship. I mentioned craftsmanship above. This is a sticking point with me. Craftsmanship  - listen to me - is 70-80 percent Tenacity and 20-30 percent SKILL. Once you learn how to use the tools and think innovatively (critically) the rest is just sticking to the TASK, knowing - KNOWING - you are going to succeed! Period!

It is important to realize Craftsmanship is the physical doing of something.

There is a lot of "noise" about the "Art" of doing something. There is a fundamental difference between Craftsmanship and Art that most people DO NOT get! Craftsmanship is the tangible DOING or making of something and is far, FAR more valuable than even the finest painting or all time best seller Book! Need proof? How much money has the simple lead pencil made and how many people have prospered in the process of making billions of simple lead pencils as opposed to the million dollar Van Gogh?

(We are not talking about "acting". Acting is the "art" of deception. Actors are over-esteemed liars who are grossly over paid to deceive us into believing they are something that they are NOT! Investigate for yourselves what the Romans thought of "actors".)

Art is the language of the soul - that abstract quality of something AFTER it is done - that draws some other soul to it, inexplicably! That happens in the craftsman oriented hobby of Model Railroading but it NEVER happens AT ALL where someone doesn't do the DOING!

Get to "work"!

 

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