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Which kit do you like?
« on: January 06, 2018, 08:56:43 PM »
Hi all,

      I've noticed all these different great "build challenges".  So I was wondering; what is it about building structures attracts?  What is the best or most sot after kit to build? What is the most popular kit to build?  What's a good structure kit to build?   Thanx Thom...

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 09:02:45 PM »
Best kit to build is the next one.  ;D
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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 09:40:01 PM »
Janbouli,
             I love yah, but this doesn't help!  Your answer is kind of coping out.   Thanx Thom...

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 10:23:39 PM »
Mr T


Have to be careful how we respond to this as we don't want to upset kit manufacturers.

I've built kits from :
FSM
Bar Mills
FOS
Campbell
Bollinger Edgerly
Sierra West

They have all been challenging in different ways and complexities.
However I must confess to enjoying building the most recent kits from FSM mainly due to the very detailed instructions. Same for Sierra West, though those kits are essentially board-by-board but not necessarily complex.

I must confess to not quite understanding the recent trend to structures based on a harbour setting
( think FOS) but that's just me.
 
The relatively recent release of Bar Mills "Delancey Street" was a most enjoyable build and challenging in parts.

I've never built a South River Modelworks kit which I sort of regret. They look like being a fun Bulls with detailed instructions similar to FSM.
I'll have to lurk eBay and look for something that appeals from SRMW.


Just my thoughts Mr T


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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 11:01:34 PM »
Thanks Bagman,
 
          That gives a little better understanding, but this is a kit forum so no manufacturers will be hurt in the making here.  Besides I'm not asking about manufacturers, I'm asking - a small kit, a complex kit, a simple kit, a gas station type kit, a business kit, a factory kit, what category I guess is what I'm asking?

If I was to have an "Engine build challenge".   I'm sure rules or type or category would need to be set right? (brass, plastic, cast, steam, diesel etc.).  I see all these build challenges and mostly I see smaller, but different structures right?

So what's the challenge?  Did I miss something here?  To me, a challenge in building is everyone starts with the same type or kit or style or manufacturer and then they build the structure to a certain end result.  Isn't that the "challenge"?

It's not a contest to see who's the best, but rather the challenge is what can you do with this, right?  Or are all these "build challenges" just simply what can you build in a week or so?  We all see every day what each other is building at the moment, so it's neither a contest or a challenge right?

Am I missing something here?  Perhaps I'm just not asking the right question when it comes to "build challenge".  Thanx Thom...

« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:13:55 PM by tct855 »

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 11:31:58 PM »
Well every kit is a ďchallengeĒ itís just that some are more a challenge than others.
I would guess that most guys on this forum are experienced kit builders.
Iíve seen posts where some guys donít bother with supplied instructions but use their experience to build the kit to their own interpretation.
Those guys I would say come under the heading of ďchallengeĒ. Scratch builders are a world apart from kit builders.
Iím assuming you have started this post due to the current build challenge?
Starting a ď challenge ď is a great way to see how guys come up with a stock version of a kit or adapt to their own interpretation.
I understand the gist of whatís going on here with the various builds.
Itís a great way to see what everyone is up to and I donít believe it should be viewed as a ďcompetitionĒ to see who can come up with a winner.
Iím just interested in seeing what everyone is building and how they go about it, irrespective of the complexity of the kit build.

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 11:44:03 PM »
Bagman,
            Exactly, I agree with all your points.   I too enjoy all the cool builds here as well to see what each other is building, but it's what they're building, it's not the challenge.  Most here are basically advance modelers just practicing.   I'm just thinking "challenge" should be just that.   Perhaps I need to change my feed. ha.  T...

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 07:09:13 AM »
Oh , okay , well then the kits I like best are the ones with lots of nooks and cranny's , N-scale kits that are worthy the title Craftsmen Kit, different roof types in one kit , different wall types etc. They are not so abundant in N-scale , only a few of the kit manufacturers that pass here a lot have N-scale kits , that's why I probably like building them when they do turn up .

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 08:04:18 AM »
Janbouli,

            Exactly! That's what I'm asking.  What it is about a kit that one likes or thinks is interesting in building.  I like the pics you posted here very much.  So to me I'm just trying to find out, what's the challenge if everyone is building what there building anyway as the challenge?

If someone said let's each person send another person a kit and tell them. Ok you build this kit for me and the next person tells you.  You build this kit for me.  Without every being told or asked what it is. (now that's a challenge).

It's kind of what I'm asked to do with building engines and rolling stock.  A person sends a model to me and says I like you to build this for me, this way.  Trust me, it's a "challenge" to do something with given parameters.

If a modelers said for me to simply build a model I got and was going to build it anyway. Is that really a challenge?  That's all I'm asking the forum challenge builders.  Thanx Thom... 

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 08:21:33 AM »
Thom, the challenge was to get builders to build a kit that's squirreled away on a shelf or in box this winter and post it on the forum to help other models do the same. I chose the size because I thought in 4 months time it could be a nice leisurely build. Me, I like a resin cab with wheels and tires. ;D

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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 08:25:14 AM »
Tom,

My approach to kit buying is probably different than most. 
First, it has to be representative of the New York Catskill Mountain area I intend to model on my planned layout. 
Second, it has to be typical of my time period of 1915-1920.
Third, it has to be priced so that it doesn't destroy my modeling budget.

I probably have a different take on a modeling challenge, too.  IMO, there are two types of modelers.  There are contest modelers and layout modelers.  A contest model has to be almost perfect in concept, design, and construction.  It needs to be equally eye catching from all sides. Otherwise, why enter a contest.  A layout model has to set the scene for the railroad.  It is usually viewed from three sides at most.  It needs to harmonize with the surrounding structures, not detract from the main focus, the railroad.

I viewed your modeling challenge as simply a way to build something in concert with other members of the forum.  Usually, people are building, but only a few members are posting a build thread.  The challenge has provided an incentive for members to post multiple build threads as p[art of a group build.  And, since you specified the overall size, it seemed obvious to me that it was a structure contest.
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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2018, 10:44:56 AM »
My approach to kit buying is probably different than most. 
First, it has to be representative of the New York Catskill Mountain area I intend to model on my planned layout. 
Second, it has to be typical of my time period of 1915-1920.
Third, it has to be priced so that it doesn't destroy my modeling budget.

Boy.  I wish I had Jerry's discipline when it came to buying kits the past 30 years or so.  If/when I ever get around to building a layout my version of the Reading Railroad, unlike the real one, is going to have to extend to a New England style seaport.   ::)

As far as the build challenge it's been a wonderful way to get a whole slew of build threads going on the forum.  That's what it's all about.  Sharing techniques for everything from the basics, like gluing two sticks together, to the more advanced, like peeling paint.  I know there are folks out there that aren't members of the forum and may not even be active modelers (at least not yet) that are following these threads.  Hopefully they'll be encouraged to build something too.   :D   
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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2018, 11:32:35 AM »
Thom,

Well, I was going to get into a whole litany of reasons. But hey, I'm  being lazy today. Raymo, Jerry and Bob have pretty well summed it up for me.

Tom ;D
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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2018, 12:12:28 PM »
Interesting questions Thom.

So many kits.....so little time. How does one choose. I suppose everyone leans a little to one over the other and I suppose I am the same, except I seem to have a favorite of the moment.

I suppose a possible answer to some of your questions would be it depends on what the buyer is looking for in a kit. Does he want realistic design and true to prototype construction methods? Are the details for the interior or exterior of the structure of sufficient detail? Are the instructions good enough for even a modestly skilled modeler to put together a complex building? I suppose the answer would be what the modeler considers important or necessary for what he is trying to accomplish.

Like many here, when I converted from Revell plastic to a more realistic kit. I started with Campbell kits. What fond memories of real wood, that smelled good and looked realistic, then along came Fine Scale Minatures and Scale Structures Limited and all those marvelous detail castings and everything changed.

All sorts of really neat manufacturers and kits began to spring up, like Historic Scale Structures, Dyna-Model Products, Timberline, Builders-In-Scale, Sleepy Hollow Products.

In the late 90's, I began to think again of building that layout I had in the back of my mind for many years and I began to check out what was going on in the hobby in my absence. New manufacturers had popped up and taken kits to a newer level with laser cutting and better detail parts.

I began to slowly collect kits that became my favorites of the moment and thought I might be able to use from B.T.S., American Model Builders, Banta, Branchline, Bollinger Edgerly, Sierra West, South River, Carolina Craftsman, Railroad Kits and Downtown Deco.

The choices have never been better and it has been great fun putting together a collection to build and install on an adult level layout. Now on to getting to the real fun of building them and a layout to house them.

I have been thinking of slowly starting to get some things accomplished and start posting builds again on the forum. I am tossing around some ideas for the 2018 Challenge and when I pick my choice from the stash, I'll put it up on the thread.


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Re: Which kit do you like?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2018, 04:06:46 PM »
Thanks,
             Raymo, Jerry, Bob, Greg, and others.  Greg what a cool collection of kits.  You-da-man!  Thanx Thom...  P.S. ACL 1504  Slouch! Never thought you'd be so proud of being lazy. ha...

 

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