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Title: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 21, 2020, 10:22:23 PM
I ran across this kit by chance while searching the internets for something else.   I really don't need another gas station.  Yes, I said it.  I don't need another gas station.  But, it just wouldn't let me go.  And I could name it.  Okay SOLD.  I'll sell one of the gas stations in my stash.  Or two.
I named it after my mothers family and my middle name.  Mitchell's So here's the ubiquitous box and contents.  I really like the color on the enclosed signage, especially after my last build.  And strip wood.  Talk about a lot of bracing!  There is a separate sheet just on bracing. 


The instructions, oh the instructions.  First kit that they have to be downloaded from the internet.  Not in the box.  Not a problem.  Just never encountered it before.  The instructions mention paying special attention to the porch ends and that they are subtle differences between inner and out pieces.  Um. No.  They are  exactly the same.  The inner one will just have to be cut down to sit on the porch supports.

So, one to the bracing.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 21, 2020, 10:35:07 PM
With some bracing needing to be even with the edges and others inset 5/32, I use the gluing jig to keep everything aligned.   I went to start on the front and backs walls, and found an issue.  The walls aren't perpendicular to the bottom edge.  Once I figured it out, I sanded the edges using the bottom edge as my reference point. 


Then, it was on to the sides.  These were a bit better as to square.  But then . . . .   One wall has an inset door and with bracing needed on the inset wall pieces, I ran out of physical space, so I ignored bracing in this area.  (Side bracing is 5/32, actual bracing is 5/32, and it has be 7/32 from the opening.  Space between the edge and the inset opening - 14/32.  Needed - 17/32).  But, I got all the bracing done and let set overnight.

Next up nail holes.  Um.  Perhaps I should have done this before the bracing. 
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on March 21, 2020, 11:38:37 PM
Looks like you are off to a great start.  I have too many gas station kits as well.  They seem to keep multipling around the house for some reason.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on March 22, 2020, 03:44:36 AM
Hey Bob:

Nice kit. Looks like you are off to a good start. I'll be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: GPdemayo on March 22, 2020, 10:05:54 AM
Nice kit Bob.....I'll be looking in.  :)
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 22, 2020, 10:15:47 AM
Thanks all.  But Houston, we may have a problem.  Look what I ran across -


Decisions.  Decisions.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 22, 2020, 10:21:26 AM

Bob,


I have run across out of square walls before in laser cut kits.  After looking at the carrier sheets it seemed to me that the entire sheet had become slightly out of square.  I realized the laser cut was correct but the wood had warped after the kit was cut.  I now check all walls closely for square prior to starting any construction.  Good catch, bracing looks great.  As usual, I'll be following along to see whether you decide to build this as designed or make some changes in its appearance.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 22, 2020, 10:32:46 AM
I don't think I have ever seen a 2 story gas station.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2020, 02:46:29 PM
Bob,

I have this kit, started it and put it back for another day. I didn't experience any issue that I remember. Oh wait, the porch posts didn't make sense where they were so I moved them.  I started my build on the old forum in Feb. 2013. Pages 2 and 4 appear but not the photos.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131030153850/http://kitforums.com/viewforum.php?f=6&start=105 (http://web.archive.org/web/20131030153850/http://kitforums.com/viewforum.php?f=6&start=105)


Jimmy D. (railroadkits) came out with this model in late 2012. It was offered with personalized signs. Mine was Perkins Hardware.

There used to be a few two story gas stations here in Central Florida. I remember the owners lived above the store and the second floor porch was over the pumps.

I'll be following along.

Tom
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 22, 2020, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 22, 2020, 02:46:29 PM
Bob,

I have this kit, started it and put it back for another day. I didn't experience any issue that I remember. Oh wait, the porch posts didn't make sense where they were so I moved them.  I started my build on the old forum in Feb. 2013. Pages 2 and 4 appear but not the photos.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131030153850/http://kitforums.com/viewforum.php?f=6&start=105 (http://web.archive.org/web/20131030153850/http://kitforums.com/viewforum.php?f=6&start=105)


Jimmy D. (railroadkits) came out with this model in late 2012. It was offered with personalized signs. Mine was Perkins Hardware.

There used to be a few two story gas stations here in Central Florida. I remember the owners lived above the store and the second floor porch was over the pumps.

I'll be following along.

Tom
Thanks for link.  Such as it is.  Weird that it is every other page.  I've just finished the porch frames, but haven't gotten to how they look.  I was disappointed that the kit had a ton of 2x4s and one 2x6.  I opted to change the porch decking to 2x8s any way, and I'll add a blue colored porch ceiling.  Allegedly sky blue paint will keep the mud daubers from building their nests on it.
The other thing, is the lack of a foundation.  Fairly typical of most kits nowadays, so it isn't a knock, just what it is.
I know you did yours 7 years ago, but did yours have a couple of steps and some metal staff-looking thingies?  I can't find where these would go.  Unless it is buried in the middle of a paragraph.
I just got this kit a couple of weeks ago and was intrigued by the two story design, the inset entry and that it could be personalized.  Not all that far away from me is an old two story hotel/cafe/gas station that was built in the 30's.  So I knew it was plausible and then did some looking around.  There were a number of them, but not many were photographed, and fewer still exist.

It's going to be a slow until I figure out what direction I want to go.  As they say, the kit has good bones.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2020, 09:25:26 AM
Bob,

I apologize for taking over your thread but maybe this will help.

I was wrong about when the kit came out. It came out in the spring of 2011 and the kits were mailed sometime in the summer of 2011.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230320091708.jpeg)

I never finished my model as if I remember it was the time I started removing my old layout and started the current one. Now, you've peaked my interest in finishing this. I think I now have a location for it.

Perkins was my mother's maiden name.

I have kits #10 and #11 out of 75.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230320091721.jpeg)

Melissa wasn't the best about putting the correct scale lumber in the kits.

Continued -
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2020, 09:35:24 AM
If you look at the second story porch area in the photo on the box cover, you'll notice the porch railing interferes with the second story windows. To my way of thinking this would never be done in real life.

I measured and lowered the bottom two support holes nine (9) scale inches. This allows me to have a deck and the railing come up to the bottom of the window.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230320091734.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230320091747.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2020, 09:44:32 AM
I have two metal gas pumps and two metal pierced earring fobs in my kit. The fobs can be cut to represent the angled outside light bars. Jimmy did this in many of his earlier kits.

I do have one set of two step stairs. These go under the back porch door. The back porch wall is shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230320093434.jpeg)

I hope this helps bob. I don't have access to my Perkins photos at present.

Jimmy has instructions for the kit on his site, www.railroadkits.com. However, he is closed until April 1, 2020 due to Covid-19.

Tom


Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 23, 2020, 10:53:24 PM
Tom, thanks for the input, and yes it helps.  I did figure out the steps as I mocked the inset entrance while waiting for glue to dry.

I missed the railing/window interference.  I agree.  It's really not right.  If one looks at the Coopers Corner photo, note that the porch railing ends between the twin windows.  I cut off the sprue with the railing to eye ball it  Nope.  Not going to happen.  As long as I'm in the neighborhood, I checked on how my futzing with the porch would affect the lower supports.  It is even with the bottom of the wall, but yet it sits on the gas island, so it's high.  I like the shape, so I need to wait until after I finalize the porch to see if I need to add or subtract material.

After checking the clearances, the under decking will clear.  Barely, but it will clear.  I decided that my best approach was to save what I have done, so I will under skin both the porch ceiling and floor.  This will allow the use of the kit bracing as I will widen the porches to clear the window interference.  Not shown is additional 8x8 material to fill in the gaps and edges.  Now, I'll need to ensure that I have enough spare railing squirreled away somewhere.


I did build two new peaks, but absolutely blew the math and will use the new deck and ceiling to fashion ones that will actually fit.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 24, 2020, 10:12:27 PM
Slow going today.  I did find extra porch railings.  Grandt Line (above) and at 75 cents.  Same from Tichy is like $3.50.  Yeah, it's been around awhile.  Both have been sprayed with Tamiya fine primer.  I'm really liking this stuff.

Spent most of the time trying to figure out a new porch end piece since widening the porch.  Finally got it right, but needed to draw it out on some card.  The bottom of the card is up to the 1 2 3 block and the two 30/60/90 triangles against the block will give you parallel lines just by moving one or both of the triangles.

Tomorrow, I'll be making a mock up of the cafe addition and see how it looks.  The side windows on that side are not equally spaced and I need to check for roof interference.

I was hoping that this would be a somewhat quick build as I have (had) knee replacement surgery scheduled for the first week in April.  That ain't happening as our local hospital is basically on lock down as they have a covid case in isolation.  Now it looks like the knee will wait al least a month.  The real bummer is that I might have to miss St Louis national due to rehab timing.  Oh well.

Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 26, 2020, 10:08:15 PM
Hmm, seems I'm not taking photos as I should. 


I got the walls painted and mocked up the diner portion.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on March 27, 2020, 07:49:12 AM
Hey Bob:

Walls look just great so far.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on March 30, 2020, 11:24:57 AM
Been working on the cafe addition.  My first want was to keep the roof pitch the same.  A quick check put a stop to that.  I didn't catch that the two windows weren't placed the same.  I did make a paper mock up of my design and barreled ahead. 

My planning sucks.  Mental note - don't add bracing before laying out the cut outs.  I eventually got everything laid out and even with the bracing, I still drill out holes in the corners.  I was hoping that maybe, just maybe, I could use one of the three X-acto saw blades that I have so I wouldn't have rely on my cutting skills.  No luck.  But it all worked out.
The kit includes some Art-Deco looking gas pumps.  But they require a gas logo inset into the globe.  I did manage to find a decent looking Texaco sign, and saved it Word.  I didn't realize that Word photo tools included a background removal option.  That done, I could reduce the sign down to my required 1/8".  The printed sheet has some signs with the background and some with out.  Yes, I do have Photoshop, attended a clinic in KC on how to use it, but it is still all Icelandic to me.  So Word remains as my go to option.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 01, 2020, 07:52:02 PM
Getting closer to putting this together.  The majority of the windows are double hung, requiring two panes of 0.05" clear styrene for each.  II finally got them all installed.  I added some curtains and blinds to the windows. 

Working on the balcony riling is a pain, but managed to cut one of the balusters in half. These would normally go against the clapboard siding. Well, in half may be generous. 
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Janbouli on April 02, 2020, 07:13:48 AM
Love the colors , fits a gas station , they wanted to stick out didn't they.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Opa George on April 03, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
I agree with Jan--it really looks like an old gas station.  Nice work on the walls.
--Opa George
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on April 03, 2020, 03:59:21 PM
Hey Bob:

It coming along quite nicely. The coloring on the walls looks really good. Can't wait to see how it looks assembled.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 03, 2020, 08:00:09 PM
Jan, Opa, and Karl thanks, but it has been slow going.  I got the main building together and started to work on the signage for the restaurant add-on.
I've named the restaurant after my mother, Mary Lucille.  I will admit, that I have never tried to add a sign like this as it being "painted",  So I followed all the excellent how-tos in the various builds here.  I could have sanded off a little more.  But, it's a start.


I also made some basic signage for the entrance side, but got the font size wrong.  So back to Excel and try again tomorrow.
I had to cut the hobby time short as we are expecting the septic pump out guy.  I don't think he has any issues on social distancing.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 04, 2020, 10:07:56 PM
Finally gluing stuff up.  I thought I had extra shingles to cover the addition, but nope.  Then it occurred to me that I don't have any similar roof card.  So, I put in an order for some task board and shingles.  With the current state of things, Jimmy is still shut down so I couldn't ask about the kits shingles source.  But I can't blame him one bit.
Once the glue has set, then I need to cut out a base, install sidewalks around the station, a short foundation under the diner, figure out a concrete drive and parking area.  When this is all done the board and shingles should have arrived.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: MAP on April 05, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
Coming along nicely Bob.  I like the colors you chose as well.  Keep the progress pics coming.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on April 05, 2020, 01:41:40 PM
Hey Bob:

glad to see you have the walls together. Looks just great. Love the colors and the weathering.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 06, 2020, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 05, 2020, 01:41:40 PM
Hey Bob:

glad to see you have the walls together. Looks just great. Love the colors and the weathering.

Karl
Appreciate it Karl.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 06, 2020, 11:26:51 PM
So, I built a sidewalk for the front, around the right side and part of the back.  Then it occurred to me that I need some build up for gravel/concrete drive surface and what I just got finished isn't going to hack it.  I decided to double the depth by adding an extra layer of 0.06" plastic.  Stuff like this makes me glad that I bough a couple of pounds of "scrap" plastic from Downtown Deco. 

It will be some time before I will be able to post photos as both of my cameras bit the dust.  I had been using a Canon Power Shot SD1000.  Worked fabulously, until it didn't.  Then I went to my other Canon, an SX.  But the AA batteries had leaked all over and killed it.  I got a new unit on order and should arrive in a week or so.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Lynnb on April 08, 2020, 11:11:06 AM
Your build is coming along nicely , nice to see you're thinking out side the box with planning ahead for sidewalks road levels etc.
For the camera try some baking soda and water on the end of a Qtip or is it vinegar ? Lots on Youtube.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 08, 2020, 09:07:36 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 08, 2020, 11:11:06 AM
Your build is coming along nicely , nice to see you're thinking out side the box with planning ahead for sidewalks road levels etc.
For the camera try some baking soda and water on the end of a Qtip or is it vinegar ? Lots on Youtube.
I've tried baking soda bit and it works up to a point.  I was way passed that.  It really kills me that I was that stupid to leave alkaline batteries in my back up camera.  I would have sworn that I had removed them years ago. 

I decided to glue my foundation down to the gaterfoam, but not the actual structure.  At least at this time.  I managed to get some kit signage installed, and found a Persian rug texture that I will draped over the upper balcony. 

I got my delivery of taskboard, so I can start on the roofs.  That'll be limited until my shingle order get delivered.  Boy I hate not having everything I need for a build.  Hate it.  Hate it.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ReadingBob on April 09, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
Looking good Bob.  Looking very good!   ;)  I'm looking forward to seeing this come together on the base.

RailroadKits has some great kits at some very reasonable prices.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 10, 2020, 08:13:01 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on April 09, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
Looking good Bob.  Looking very good!   ;)  I'm looking forward to seeing this come together on the base.

RailroadKits has some great kits at some very reasonable prices.
Thanks fr the nice comment..  I also bought a falling down warehouse, that'll get built shortly.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 10, 2020, 08:21:54 PM
My new camera arrived along with a new Bar Mills Kit.  Woo hoo it's like Christmas!  Well, they are forecasting snow, so there is that.
Since I don't trust 3/8" gaterboard all that much, I'll use 1/2" board.  Like I previously mentioned, I made a structure base that included sidewalk and  foundation.  Then I needed to double the depth and glued the whole thing on the board.  I did add a bunch of locator blocks to keep the building square.   The building is just sitting on it at this point.  There's Chelta Mitchell cleaning the living room rug. 
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 10, 2020, 08:37:33 PM
And with the receipt of the taskboard, I can start on the roofs.  The Rslaserkit 3 tab shingles begin with a starter strip then the first row of shingles.  This row begins 3/16" for the edge, and each additional row is 1/16" up.  So I mark the board accordingly and draw parallel lines.  I always measure up, and in this case the depth of my plastic ruler and press down.  Then, taking a triangle, put the pencil lead in the divot, move the triangle to it, and draw down (or across).

Here is the roofing kit.  Four sheets of shingles, plus the starter strip.  Some sheets have a narrow waste piece that can be used for another starter course.  And most side pieces will serve as ridge cap material.

I started on the smaller roof using transfer tape.  I thought it would make application easier.  Nope.  Just not enough adhesive, so I had to use some Elmer's in a small applicator bottle.  Here is a photo of the tools that I use.  The brush is used to settle the row down by dabbing.  The flush cutter is used to do a rough trim at the ends.  The small ruler is used to do any final adjustment to a row.  It works a lot better than trying to move a small area by other means. 

And here is half of the porch roof.  I should note that the Center Line was marked and will be scored for folding.   The other roof decks will be shingled using just Elmer's.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Opa George on April 13, 2020, 07:18:21 AM
Bob, this is turning out very nice.  Very cool detail with the carpet cleaning!
--Opa George
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Lynnb on April 13, 2020, 11:38:59 AM
It will be interesting to see how you finish off the roof. I've aways wondered why its called a starter strip, I generally simply flip the first row around so the shingle half is pointing to the peak and go over that row normally butting to the overhang edge.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 13, 2020, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 13, 2020, 11:38:59 AM
It will be interesting to see how you finish off the roof. I've aways wondered why its called a starter strip, I generally simply flip the first row around so the shingle half is pointing to the peak and go over that row normally butting to the overhang edge.
That's how most 3-tab shingle install are done in the real world.   For me, it just saves a shingle row.   Our architectural shingles actually have a starter shingle bundle that is flat, i.e.  no raised shingle bits.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 14, 2020, 08:10:24 PM
Good grief this is a slow process.  But finally got the roofs shingled and roofs glued down.  Next up, getting the rafter tails and all the ridge cap shingles installed.

While the glue was drying, it was also a good time to start adding dirt to the base and finish grinding up all the rest of the dirt that was dug up last fall.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 14, 2020, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: Opa George on April 13, 2020, 07:18:21 AM
Bob, this is turning out very nice.  Very cool detail with the carpet cleaning!
--Opa George
Thanks, I had to do something to cover up faux pas with the porch railing.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ReadingBob on April 15, 2020, 07:23:44 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 14, 2020, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: Opa George on April 13, 2020, 07:18:21 AM
Bob, this is turning out very nice.  Very cool detail with the carpet cleaning!
--Opa George
Thanks, I had to do something to cover up faux pas with the porch railing.

Covering up that faux pas ended up turning that into a major point of interest.  Very cool.  This is really looking sharp.   ;D 
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 17, 2020, 10:05:41 PM
Roof - all done but weathering.  Next up - rafter tails.  About a hundred.
Played around with dirt and gravel.  Found out that Gorilla glue don't work that well.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: NEMMRRC on April 18, 2020, 08:20:25 AM
Cool kit. Very good job on the build.


I see www.railroadkits.com (http://www.railroadkits.com) still sells this kit. They still advertise the ability to add your name to the sign. It's reasonably priced....

"Jaime's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Gas 'N Go"


It could happen.


Jaime
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Lynnb on April 20, 2020, 12:13:42 PM
Looks great, rafter tails should keep you busy for a bit. I have a set of flat end nail clippers I use for cutting the ends once there glued in.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: vinceg on April 20, 2020, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: NEMMRRC on April 18, 2020, 08:20:25 AM
Cool kit. Very good job on the build.


I see www.railroadkits.com (http://www.railroadkits.com) still sells this kit. They still advertise the ability to add your name to the sign. It's reasonably priced....

"Jaime's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Gas 'N Go"


It could happen.


Jaime

Maybe you could ask them to make a stencil of that for you.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 20, 2020, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 20, 2020, 12:13:42 PM
Looks great, rafter tails should keep you busy for a bit. I have a set of flat end nail clippers I use for cutting the ends once there glued in.
Thanks.  I use either a flush cut sprue cutter, old set of rail nippers, or tweezer looking sprue cutters.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 20, 2020, 10:17:31 PM
So, it's been awhile I could show any real progress.

For most kits, I take a 5x8 note card and draw the roof pitch.  It aids in frieze and verge board cutting and rafter tail angles.  I use a 1x2x3 block as a stop and an old single edge razor blade holder to cut the material.  Although I had previously drawn out the rafter tail spacing, I use the Rusty Stump joist jig to double check placement and spacing.

I still haven't gotten the whole scenery glue thing down.  I think I need to switch to Elmers Wood Glue as opposed to Elmers Glue All.  The darker "tracks" were accentuated after an overs pray of my 50/50 Elmers/water mix.  I had lightly brushed on some dust weathering powder which really didn't show up, other than to loosen some of the gravel material.  Hence, the over spray.
Once the glue has set, I can take the board to the workbench and install the front porch pillars and pumps.  Well, I need to add some static grass first to the dirt areas.  I bought a Peco static grass applicator and really want to play with it.

While waiting for all this glue to dry, I got a head start on a falling down supply company kit.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on April 21, 2020, 08:25:45 AM
hey Bob:

It's coming along very nicely. Love your colors.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 21, 2020, 10:12:00 PM
Thanks Karl.

So, I played around with the static grass.  And meh.  Obviously I'm doing something wrong as I get more long stuck together strands of static grass and what grass does stick, most of it lays down.

This was a good place to futz with something new.  I'll play around with clumps on wax paper and see how that works.

I need to weather the roof a bit, get the gas island glued on, and add the pumps.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
What kind of grass machine do you use Bob? And is the battery fully charged?
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
What kind of grass machine do you use Bob? And is the battery fully charged?
It's a Peco PSG-1.  And yes, it has a brand new battery.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Lynnb on April 22, 2020, 02:49:26 PM
Looks great , I look forward to how you do your weathering and I like your setup for cutting stripwood.
Years ago I came across an electric flyswatter thing that was the poor mans static grass tool which I never did anything with it , but I did buy one at a hobby shop in Toronto and some of the grass to use for it, unfortunatelly I tore down that layout and started a new one so I'm not at the static grass stage yet. Please do post what you figure out.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
What kind of grass machine do you use Bob? And is the battery fully charged?
It's a Peco PSG-1.  And yes, it has a brand new battery.

Wow , really shouldn't look like that, did you make sure it was grounded well. The PECO is good enough , it should shoot the grass into the glue or paint whatever you used . I usually use tan colored acrylic paint , the type you use for walls , brush it on a bit thick and then while still wet shoot the grass , I use a RTS Greenkeeper 35Kv, more voltage better grass , but like I said the Peco is more then good enough.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
What kind of grass machine do you use Bob? And is the battery fully charged?
It's a Peco PSG-1.  And yes, it has a brand new battery.

Wow , really shouldn't look like that, did you make sure it was grounded well. The PECO is good enough , it should shoot the grass into the glue or paint whatever you used . I usually use tan colored acrylic paint , the type you use for walls , brush it on a bit thick and then while still wet shoot the grass , I use a RTS Greenkeeper 35Kv, more voltage better grass , but like I said the Peco is more then good enough.
I use a big T-pin.  I watched several Peco how-tos on YouTube and they didn't even ground theirs.  They just got it close.  I brushed on a 50/50 mix of glue/water, let it sit while I loaded the hopper.  Today I used an over spray glue from WWS figuring that it might be better.  Nope sameo sameo, but it did allow me to add some ground foam on my bushes and in the flat grass area.  I just need to fiddle with this more.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Janbouli on April 23, 2020, 05:45:49 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 22, 2020, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
What kind of grass machine do you use Bob? And is the battery fully charged?
It's a Peco PSG-1.  And yes, it has a brand new battery.

Wow , really shouldn't look like that, did you make sure it was grounded well. The PECO is good enough , it should shoot the grass into the glue or paint whatever you used . I usually use tan colored acrylic paint , the type you use for walls , brush it on a bit thick and then while still wet shoot the grass , I use a RTS Greenkeeper 35Kv, more voltage better grass , but like I said the Peco is more then good enough.
I use a big T-pin.  I watched several Peco how-tos on YouTube and they didn't even ground theirs.  They just got it close.  I brushed on a 50/50 mix of glue/water, let it sit while I loaded the hopper.  Today I used an over spray glue from WWS figuring that it might be better.  Nope sameo sameo, but it did allow me to add some ground foam on my bushes and in the flat grass area.  I just need to fiddle with this more.
Maybe too close , so that the grass doesn't get the chance to shoot out straight.  This is what mine looks like , using 3 colors in 2 different lengths.(http://janbouli.com/images/scenes/grass/rts2.jpg)
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on April 23, 2020, 09:10:01 AM
Hey Bob:

Coming along nicely. Looks just great.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 23, 2020, 05:57:02 PM
Jan, it could be that I'm too close.  Especially since mine doesn't even close to yours. 
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 23, 2020, 06:02:28 PM
I added a couple of J L Innovative Design gas pumps.  I just couldn't get paint to work on the kits' Art Deco pumps.  They really look great.

Added two chimneys.  I just need to add the tar around the brick/roof area.  At this point the building isn't glued down.  I'll wait until it get planed in the layout as additional scenery needs to be added.  It needs a wood fence around the parking lot.  So basically it is finished.

Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 23, 2020, 07:11:36 PM
Looks great Bob.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Janbouli on April 23, 2020, 08:53:08 PM
Excellent Bob , really like the colors and the lady with the carpet is such a nice ooops gone good.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Opa George on April 24, 2020, 06:57:47 AM
Bob, really nice job on this kit.  The color scheme is classic and works well. Very pleasing design--a gem.
--Opa George
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: GPdemayo on April 24, 2020, 09:11:38 AM
Well done Bob.....it will make a great addition to the layout.  8)
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: Oldguy on April 24, 2020, 09:49:55 AM
Thanks Jan, Opa and Greg.  I do like how the building came out.  Like I said, the kit has good bones.
Now on to the next project.
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: postalkarl on April 24, 2020, 01:01:21 PM
Hey Bob:

Love the last group of photos. Beautiful job.

Karl
Title: Re: RailroadKits Gas 'n Go
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 03:30:12 PM
Bob,

Very well done. I really like your version of the added structure on the left. Changes the entire look of the kit. Great job.

Tom  ;D