I am starting this thread to share the progress on my layout, which some of you are familiar with. I began it in August 2012, as an N scale layout, but after track was laid I decided to follow my heart and convert to HOn30. After a few minimal trackplan alterations, I was on my way. Oddly, I decided to leave a remote corner of the layout in N scale, hoping that it's isolation would lend a nice forced perspective effect on what is not a large overall layout. I think it's worked out so far and I was able to display my best N scale structures and rolling stock.
I'll catch up with a flurry of photos and, hopefully, a good track plan to catch us all up to date.
Thanks for any interest, suggestions, or comments
John
John,
Of course you know the SBG will be following along.
Tom :)
I got a little bit done today, adding goop and ground cover to the turnaround that one sees when first entering the room. I plan for this to be a heavily forested hill that acts as a viewblock. Next step is to soak it with glue and quickly apply static grass where appropriate, some generous helpings of scrub and assorted undergrowth and then lots and lots of trees.
John
Calling it a day, but got the grass down, the vines up and some trees planted. The first photo shows (basically) the view as you walk in the door - heavily forested hill with a peak of something down and beyond. That would be the waterfront area featuring the most densely populated area of the layout (in terms of structures). Still many trees to plant on the hill, but I still need to secure the gravel road and clean up the track before I bury everything in trees.
John
John, those shots look great. I love the one overlooking the dock area with the bridge just in view.
As always, I ran out of trees...I need to sit in front of the Dolphins game and do the pre-surgery on a bunch of SuperTrees to round out my Model180(?) today.
I did a nice patch at the top of the loop hill with what I had, but had to hold back as I still need to tune up the road with some more gravel and some foliage down the middle, not to mention picking out the static grass. One new viewpoint from the top of the Red Hook II warehouse.
Still debating about ultimate color for the fascia...I've always done a dark/Hunter Green, but I'm pondering Black
John
Nice work on both the bare trees and the evergreens. With that beautiful color scheme, I still think a dark hunter green would frame it nicely, but not pop....It would blend, like a dark shadow.
I'm leaning back toward the Hunter Green Fascia myself.
Tonight's the night we host my brother's family for the annual Lasagna and "Christmas Vacation" watching party (going on about 20 years now)...I found time for a few more hours of tree-making. I also absconded my wife's holiday broom and used it for some nice vertical filler that my previous forests have been lacking. Bill Obenauf demonstrated it at the EXPO and it really resonated with what I saw all around me in Western MA in November.
John
That corner looks really great John. You're scenery work is top notch. You've been busy in spite of the holiday season. :D
We watched Christmas Vacation last night and Christmas with the Kranks the night before. ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 22, 2013, 05:55:59 PM
That corner looks really great John. You're scenery work is top notch. You've been busy in spite of the holiday season. :D
We watched Christmas Vacation last night and Christmas with the Kranks the night before. ;D
Cuse,
What Bob said on the layout! I love it! Tonight my Babe and I will watch Christmas Vacation for the umteenth time. It seems to be a family tradition for us every year! I love the theme song!
Tom
You've got them Arkansaw redneck Ledbetters watchin', too!
You know that they'll beat your chops if they see anything wrong!
So far, everything's Hunky-Dory! ;D ;D ;D ;D
My layout's not large, so I tried to take pictures that would help you all get a sense of how it all fits together.
I'll start with the most unusual of the three sections...the N scale area. It is an isolated area that is all in N scale. I feel it effectively presents a nice forced perspective effect of distance. There's really no place in the room where the effect is ruined by your peripheral vision. The whole area is industrial siding, not through route, so I don't plan to run HO trains through the area.
The large middle Peninsula is intended to be the most "backcountry" area of the layout. The area (containing a wye through the woods) adjacent to the N scale area is intentionally devoid of structures to avoid anything from interfering from the visual transition between scales when seen from a distance. In fact, the trees gradually increase in size to add to the effect. The presently incomplete area will feature a Foscale enginehouse (on Reading Bob's worktable at the moment) and a small pulpwood loading siding. The enginehouse will be located where I left the uninstalled Tortoise on the layout. I plan to hide it among some dense forest, so you have to look through the woods to "find the scene". Also, note the track level is 5' above the floor, so the central ridge and almost any of the larger trees make effective viewblocks and scenic dividers to further enhance the illusion of a larger area. Some of the photos in this thread are taken with my arms extended well above my head to help show the track and scene arrangements, but non-NBA viewers wouldn't normally see it from that perspective. You can see the N scale area in the back, in a couple of the photos, and get a sense of the forced perspective I'm hoping for. One of the photos is labeled "Pritchards" as it is a scene heavily inspired by an all-time favorite from an early version of Frary & Hayden's layout (they called it Pritchard's Pond) featuring tiny trains squeezing across a land bridge between two bodies of water.
The final section of my layout features a harbor scene that will someday feature many structures and will (have to) feature multiple levels of scenery and buildings over the tracks. I've got quite a few kits including Fos' Executioners' Point, CCK Carolina Pulp (on the wharf), along with Fos' background flats and some Bar Mills and Railroad Kits structures to crowd this scene. I'll probably build scenery everywhere else before I attack this area as it will require the most creativity, planning, and patience. Patience is still definitely in the developmental stage with me ;D
Thanks for following along...John
John:
I'm here too! Can't wait for a Northern Division SBG so we can see it in person...
John , what a masterpiece in forced perspective .
Thanks guys. I'm really having fun with the scenery on this. I need to suck it up and finish the Tortoises, so I can run a little train reliably (through the frogs).
Quote from: Cuse on January 09, 2014, 07:51:56 PMThe presently incomplete area will feature a Foscale enginehouse (on Reading Bob's worktable at the moment) and a small pulpwood loading siding.
Oh my. Now the pressure is really on. I have to come up with a build that will be as impressive as the surrounding scenery. Thankfully the FOS Engine House is really neat model. That'll make the task a little bit easier (I hope). ;D
John,
Thanks for the pics. The layout really looks great. You are probably glad to be home and get back to the layout. Glad we could get together while you were here in Scottsdale. Hope you enjoyed the two layouts. Keep up the great work. I am still working on some ideas for Tom's new layout and I'll email them to him. Have a great day.
Frank / Erieman
I did a fair amount today...I put down a layer of Mod Podge and I have a predicament. It's been about 8 hours and it's still full of white blobs, but the blobs are dry to the touch. I've used MP many times before, so I know this is irregular -maybe I have a spoiled batch (it's been around a while and was the last of a large bottle). I'll wait until tomorrow and just paint over it, if need be, before applying more coats of new Mod Podge.
I've also got a pic of the Grand Canyon Railway steamer (wasn't moving the day we visited, but still photogenic)
John
Great looking layout John. I forgot, what scale are you using? Jim from Pelham
HOn30 Jim...HO scale with N gauge track.
Thanks for checking in...John
John,
Just wanted to say you have done a phenomenal job in such a small space. This gives us guys who have a very limited space some incentive to be able do something. What you have done here is something to be very proud off. Keep up the GREAT job and thank you for sharing. If you get a chance could you post a copy of the actual plan? Thanks.......
Thanks for the compliments guys.
Today, in bits and pieces, I got a bit done. In the N scale area, I placed about a dozen figures, some details from the scrapbox, and planted a row of telephone poles including lines. I also went through my kits and stared at an undecided area for a while before finally deciding what could fit without compromising the scenic spaciousness I'm trying so hard for. In the photos I'm mocking up a Pulpwood loading yard. In the distance, the raw wood walls are from a Bar Mills Shaw's Ridge kit which I was nervous about until I rubber banded it together to check the footprint. Directly behind it will be a Fos Enginehouse that I am determined to hide among the trees. So there will need to be some pretty dense natural growth right behind the Bar Mills kit to isolate the enginehouse scene.
John
Here's what I'm working on...Shaw's Ridge by Bar Mills. I got this kit at the Expo for no reason or intended placement (which you can all understand). It's just a cool little structure!. What you see here is a very basic shell, there is an extended front with two garage doors, external roof supports (never heard of 'em, but they look cool), a couple of skylights, awnings over the windows, and a shed roof off of the wall with the big sign.
John
BTW, that gap at the bottom is intentional...it makes it easier to plant the shrub that will conceal the corner. ;)
I have a similar gap on the bottom of my Myer's and Son structure. :) You're layout is taking shape nicely.
Jeff
More progress on Shaw's Ridge. That's it for today, I think.
Next up...the roof
John
Shaw's is looking good John (as is the layout). :D I'm looking forward to seeing it. I started bracing the walls for the engine house today. There will be a build thread to follow along at some point.
John, What did you use on the roof above the overhead doors? looks very nice, as does the whole building.
8)
Andy,
I wanted to do a gravel roof, but wanted to add some color to the building. The main roof will be red/orange-ish rolled roofing.
I spread glue and scattered a thin layer of fine reddish brown ballast I have had laying around in an unlabeled tupperware (90% sure it's Woodland Scenics). I dribbled a little more white glue/water and "pinched" a little more ballast wherever the glue was pooling. When it set up a bit, I pressed it down with a piece of plastic to get a more uniform look. The color looked TOO uniform to me, so I pinched a variety of Bragdon's weathering powders to break up the color a bit. I'm pretty happy with it - I'd like to add a bit of litter to finish it off.
John
Thanks, something I might try.
8)
Quote from: Cuse on January 26, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
BTW, that gap at the bottom is intentional...it makes it easier to plant the shrub that will conceal the corner. ;)
Darn, John, you're startin' to use Arkansaw Speak!
Intentional is the Ledbetter's favorut word! ::) ::) ::)
They've got a big bill at the local plant guy (unpaid, of course!). :o :o :o
Looks great John, cann't wait to see this in person.
David
I managed to get my Model60 and a little more tonight. I added the roof and a couple of small touches to the Bar Mills Shaw's Ridge kit. There are quite a few distinctive features still to be added to this one. I never saw this kit before the EXPO and I generally scour the Bar Mills web site, so it may be a relatively new one. It certainly has some great character (when it's done), particularly on the roof. It looks somewhat complete now, but I'd say it's only about 65% there, as the box full of parts proves.
John
Here's a picture by Roughneck Dave I swiped from the other forum. It's got to have been taken from an elevated position and that's Gregg Demayo with the camera and myself with lips pursed to blow on the water surface for bigger waves ;).
Nice pic David. I wanted to thank you for your kind words but, alas, I am still shunned.
John
John,
Nice picture of you and Greg. Oh yes, the layout looks awesome too. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Nice views of your layout John. Be glad you not in Pelham with the snow. Jim Mueller.
John,
Looking good so far. Can't wait to see the finished product. Thanks for sharing..... :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Thanks guys.
Today, I got some more done. I painted and weathered some nice detail castings for the Bar Mills Shaw's Ridge I'm building. I also attached a sign, some lamps, and the bases for the skylights that I have yet to build. I'm not usually patient enough to do too much detail work in a bunch, so now I'm walking away for a bit.
I really found painting the castings a lot more enjoyable than in the past. Maybe I'm maturing :o
I have only to build the 2 skylights and all of the window awnings to call it a day on this cool kit!
John
You're doing a super job on that Bar Mills kit John. The castings turned out great. Keep it up and you're going to need to find a home for it on your layout. ;D
Lookin' good, John. Especiallythe Case sign!
Jeff
Thanks guys. Jeff, I wanted to compliment you on your SRMW build, but I still couldn't sign in. Unless I hear back from admin, I think I'm done trying (dozens of times).
This morning I got in my Model60 just mocking up and visualizing where I'm going to place yet-to-be-built structures. I think I've got some good ideas.
I put in a temporary little group of trees and I think that, along with a fence, It will provide enough visual separation to squeeze Shaw's Ridge next to the pulpwood yard.
I have a Bar Mills barn and a Bar Mills Hurst Boiler that could fit nicely on a little dock as shown. I copied and cut out the full size directions to create crude mockups.
On the wharf, I'm back to Groovy Jeff's CCK Carolina Pulp & Paper. That's the footprint on the wharf (main building only)
I opened up my Fos Scale Executioner's Rocks kit to help visualize placement. What a masterpiece. Doug seems like a humble guy, but he must feel like Richards and Jagger when "Exile on Main Street" came out. In my opinion, it's the greatest kit ever made. The design has so much character, so much interest, and so much unique appeal...I can't imagine how anyone could ever do better. His diorama presents it in such a dramatic way too. I definitely want to find a way to elevate it an inch or two, in similar fashion - in hopes of the same dramatic effect. I'm intentionally putting it off for a while, out of respect. I want to do a few more Bar Mills builds and possibly a Fos Scale background building to further develop my skills to do it justice. At this point, I don't have any plans for the buildings in the kit other than the big Peckham Sailmakers structure.
The most likely spot for it is where I placed the black iPad folder. I want to elevate it with a ramped road, just like Doug's diorama. It will not be directly on the water and I will probably not cut in a siding for it (but I probably could, with some awkwardness). I still think that, with the right colors and elevation, I can capture some of the drama of the diorama siting, when one first walks into the layout room. If it comes out the way I imagine, it will surely be the structural highlight of the layout.
Here's the real thing, viewed from the same angle, if any of you Photoshop masters want to chop it in.
I imagine it looming over those smaller Bar Mills structures.
John
Hi John!
I just looked in to catch up with what you have been doing and noticed I hadn't posted the pictures I took when we had our SBG meet a couple of weeks ago.
I had a great time, loved the progress you've made and enjoyed meeting David. So, to correct my little oversight, here are the photos I took:
Here are the rest of the group.
By the way, the really great looking FSM pile driver kit was built by ReadingBob. My photos don't do it justice because up close and in person, the detail work that he did is amazing to see. Great job Bob!
Excellent modeling and picture taking.
8)
Thanks Greg, nice job on the pics!
John
Okay, I declare this kit finished! I built the tricky skylights and gave them a little dusting of weathering. I cut out and painted the awnings, but I just didn't feel they added to my rendition (although I thought they looked great on Art's display at the EXPO), so I decided to let the sun shine in.
John
Should look great on the layout.
8)
Quote from: Cuse on February 15, 2014, 12:48:28 PM
so I decided to let the sun shine in. John
So, did The Age of Aquarius enter in your decision?
Memories came back, so I had go to YouTube to hear it again! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Cuse on February 09, 2014, 10:34:12 PM
Thanks Greg, nice job on the pics!
John
You're welcone...let's not forget the trip over to see Dave...see ya soon!
I like your winter deciduous trees and admire something that looks this finished from a 2012 start. Do you have a track plan you can scan or take a screenshot of?
If you use black for the fascia, I suggest you use semi-gloss; I did mine with flat latex and it shows scuffs more than I really like.
I have cobbled together a layout plan (not enough track to call it a track plan ;) )
All of the structures are acquired (and then some), and many are built and in place. The "unscenicked" corner in the drawing still has a ways to go before I can figure out how to fit in all that want. One structure for certain to be included is the Sailmaker structure from Executioners Rocks. I will probably have to get it built to really visualize how best to position and, likely, elevate it. I have many other, less intimidating, build projects ahead of that.
Hope this helps you to follow the construction process and photos. I moved into my home July 30, 2012, and I started the layout pretty soon after. Then, I decided to change scales from N to HOn30. That was really not a big deal as I had not started scenery...I ripped out some busy, tight trackwork and passing sidings and simplified the plan a bit. I was able to pack most of my favorite N scale structures in the little area on the other end of the stone bridge which is isolated from the rest of the layout.
James,
thanks for the tip on the facia paint...that makes sense.
Hope the track plan is somewhat readable.
John
Nice work John! Looks great
Hal
Quote from: halrey on February 21, 2014, 10:40:35 PM
Nice work John! Looks great
Hal
I agree, very well done. Sorry I missed the last SBG Meeting.
Tom
John
The layout looks great! I'm really enjoying the thread.
John,
To sound like a copy cat, I agree with the lot. Fantastic modeling and pictures. I've looked several times. Boy it's a lot of fun to see what others are doing in this "Worlds Greatest Hobby" Thanks for sharing, keep up the great modeling sir. Thanx Thom...
Yep..........
pretty cool
Thanx
Bob
Thanks guys.
I haven't been on the Forum much lately and when I checked in, I saw some action on my thread. I was hoping somebody worked on my layout, because I sure haven't. ::)
soon.
Here's what I've been developing...wouldn't be honest to say "working on" yet. I'm creating more develop-able real estate in my harbor area by building another little wharf. I have two awesome little Bar Mills kits that would be dwarfed by the Executioners Rocks structure which I hope to squeeze into the bulk of the available corner - so I'm adding a little wharf in the front for them to occupy. They are Hurst Boiler and the Barn at Jackson Corners. I've always loved the classic lines of the barn and always thought of some spacious area it could one day occupy. Well, the wide-open spaces on this little layout are long gone, but I think it would make a nice little waterfront warehouse.
So far, I'm just mocking up to help visualize.
John
I'm glad I'm not alone in the slacking dept...... ;D
I'm trying, I'm trying! It's tuff being me!
Tom ;D
Is this now the 'Slackin' Butty Group'?
If so, I'm a bona-fide out of state member! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I would definitely qualify for this sub group........
Let's see here................ slacking riff - raff or is it riff -r raff slackers? ? ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
Quote from: gnatshop on April 19, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Is this now the 'Slackin' Butty Group'?
If so, I'm a bona-fide out of state member! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey, we have a great new group going here!!!
Watch out though, the real serious guys may try to have an intervention with (or for ?) us.....
Quote from: gnatshop on April 19, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Is this now the 'Slackin' Butty Group'?
If so, I'm a bona-fide out of state member! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Gman,
I definitely want to be a member of your group! Let's not forget this is Cuse's thread.
John, The warf scene will be a big eye catcher when finished. Can't wait to see it!
Tom ;D
Cuse who ? ?? ?
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on April 20, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
Cuse who ? ?? ?
see ya Bob
'Cuse he fessed up to slackin' and started this whole darn sub-chapter of the SBG mess!!! 8) 8) 8)
Who else woulda' thunk of addin' a wharf so he could add more buidin's?
Dirt real estate! - Who needs it? Purty darn ingenious (or just weird-minded) feller! ??? ??? ??? ???
At least the Arky chapter is keepin' seruss about this slackin' shtuff - I been doin' it all weekend! ;D ;D ;D ;D
P.S. This place needs more smileys!!!
Don't forget John, you can get more wharf for your buck if you knock out those closet walls! ;D
More wharfs = more structures.....
Quote from: Cuse on April 19, 2014, 10:14:02 AM
Here's what I've been developing...wouldn't be honest to say "working on" yet. I'm creating more develop-able real estate in my harbor area by building another little wharf. I have two awesome little Bar Mills kits that would be dwarfed by the Executioners Rocks structure which I hope to squeeze into the bulk of the available corner - so I'm adding a little wharf in the front for them to occupy. They are Hurst Boiler and the Barn at Jackson Corners. I've always loved the classic lines of the barn and always thought of some spacious area it could one day occupy. Well, the wide-open spaces on this little layout are long gone, but I think it would make a nice little waterfront warehouse.
So far, I'm just mocking up to help visualize.
John
John
I don't know what happened to your thread - looks like you forgot to lock the door. I like using mockups and visualizing what I'm going to do in a new area. It really helps with the do overs. I think the wharf is going to look great.
Things are kind of at a standstill here. I'm pondering my trackwork/locomotives...they're just not getting along. I'm actually thinking about ripping up the track and going to a larger rail size and maybe even removing some of the funkier trackwork to make it EXTRA simple and foolproof. That got me thinking "maybe just HOn3 track which would allow me to plunk down one of those Blackstone sound-equipped beauties".
I really like those new Minitrains steamers in HOn30, but I was told the flanges were too deep for my N scale code 55 track.
Think, think, think :o
John
Regarding my previous post...keep in mind that I consider my layout more of an operating diorama. I only care about scenery. I like to slowly run a train around and around in beautiful scenery. I really would be fine without DCC, in fact. I just want 2 or 3 beautifully detailed, oily smooth locos on the layout - although I'd settle for 1!
John
OK...I put in a few hours today and shook off the "slacker" label. I actually even completed one of my most dreaded and unfulfilling tasks...I installed a Tortoise switch machine! I also took everything Bachman OFF the layout and that immediately had a positive effect on the quality of performance overall. Doesn't look like I'll be ripping up all my track anytime soon...It's a good thing nobody carries the funky Peco HOn30 "crazy" track, or I probably would have a box on the way and there'd be no turning back.
Where is that Atlas N S-2 DCC with Loksound Locomotive they promised for late 2013? - not a peep online. Hopefully, more to come tomorrow, probably nothing picture-worthy. I can't wait to slap down some more scenery when I get through this micro-soldering and thankless-under-the-layout nightmare
John,
Seems like you are getting closer to making some sort of guage change! Working on the layout and thinking of other track sizes can be a bit frustrating.
I'm quite confident you'll be on your way when the issue is decided.
Tom ;D
No Tom...I think I'm settled in with HOn30. I've had concerns with the performance of the Atlas Code 55 turnouts from way back. When combined with crappy, unforgiving Bachmann locos and, admittedly, my lack of patience for all things tedious ::) , I'll have some difficulties.
I first was thinking of new Peco track, primarily for the tie spacing and the opportunity to run those new Minitrains rtr sets that are coming out. I contacted them and was told code 55 wouldn't cut it. I've used Peco track and turnouts before and found them to be more forgiving.
Bottom line (for now, at least)...I'm going to focus on getting my frogs powered, my track clean, my few good engines optimized (or replaced) and try to get back to scenery and the stack of kits in my closet asap.
Cuse...
I run really small light brass locomotives in HO and n3 and came up with an all wheel pick up method for locos and tenders.
Go to my "Basic Electricity .. no math page on the baggage car thread and go to late in the discussion. It shows how I use phosphor bronze wipers from Kadee M5 couplers on all wheels. Let me know if you have any more questions than what is there. They work good and zero maintenance once installed.
see ya
Bob
Yesterday, upon hearing that the Foscale Enginehouse, built by Reading Bob, was completed, I ran over and picked it up from his house. It looked perfect! Unfortunately, I had a cookout with friends happening immediately after, so I really didn't get much time to place, photograph or further plan.
From my most basic layout planning, I wanted a remote engine servicing area that was buried in the trees. I'll have a low scenic ridge and lots of dense evergreens strategically blocking the viewer's ability to get a complete unobstructed view of an interesting, cluttered scene.
Long way from here to there, but you get the idea.
John
John,
Of course, Bob did his usual fantastic job on the structure and the spot you picked for it seems perfect. It looks good back in the woods.
Tom ;D
John, did you get this offer from Model Railroad Hobbyist?
I immediately thought of you.
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=571743ad1254f1d0593e8f68d&id=dcee54e4e5&e=8ac5d388fd (http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=571743ad1254f1d0593e8f68d&id=dcee54e4e5&e=8ac5d388fd)
Thanks Gnat, I did see that. I already have his 2 disc scenery DVD set. I don't really care to buy the operations and fleet stuff (never say never). Leaving for the Florida Keys in the am. Better hit the sack.
John
Hi there,
nice looking layout.... :)
Regards,Chris
I didn't really do anything on the layout (other than ponder), so we'll call this a "glorified bump" :)
I was away for a couple of days for the holiday and just kept coming back to the idea that I might be foolish to build any more scenery while I have questions about my trackwork and reliability of operation. Even my Tortoise-powered turnouts are a constant problem for my little four wheel HOn30 locos. Even double-headed, they rarely make it through. I built a previous layout with Atlas Code 55 N scale track and it never ran well. I have a notebook full of ideas...one of my favorites is to pull up the track and replace it with bulletproof MicroEngineering HOn3 track and christen it with a beautiful Blackstone sound-equipped, ultra-detailed steamer. The minimum radius would be 18", so I would have to bump out the layout in at least one spot(maybe two) for a larger curve. This would also involve some minimal scenery destruction, but nothing I couldn't live with. No decisions made yet...
Here are my two little nemesis posing on a turnout.
This is the machine shop from the Fos Enginehouse that Reading Bob built. This placement is growing on me...the white paper is a mocked up Bar Mills Barn that I have yet to build.
John
Cuse,
Very nice little dock scene. I hope you can resolve the little switcher issue! You'll be much happier with the layout and you won't have that particular issue constantly on your mind.
Tom ;D
Regarding my possible HOn3 transition...if I'm going to 18" radius anyway, maybe just stop swimming upstream and join the masses in HO. The narrow gauge appeal of those tiny Blackstone RTR beauties is very much a draw for me. Are there many/any high-quality, smallish, DCC-equipped locos in HO standard gauge that would rival their performance?
Just doing my due diligence here :-\
Looking good John!
Go ahead and make the jump, you'll definitely have a better selection of engines in HO.....
John...
I've had a lot of fun with HO n3 and as you say.......... there are some great locomotives out there.
Regarding rolling stock......... there are several good manufacturers of rolling stock including Labelle.
O n30 has gotten a good roll lately as Bachmann has come with some good reasonably priced locomotives but I am never going to stray too far from HO.
see ya
Bob
Peco HOn3 code 70 track, Blackstone C-19. Whole new ball game. 8)
What a great looking steam engine John. 8)
When do you want the SBG over to inspect the new track and give the engine a spin? How about tomorrow? ;D
John,
Be careful.
Be VERY careful.
Next thing you know, there'll be steep mountain walls growing up your walls and spidery trestles with funny little cars logoed D&RGW infesting your layout. Narrow gauge locos have a way of doing that to modelers.
Just discovered this thread and it makes me wonder. Why do Floridians model New England narrow gauge and New Englanders model Colorado narrow gauge? Can't we just compromise and model around Cass, WV? :-\ :-\ ;D
That C-19 is sweet! :D Can't wait to see it in action. 8) Congrat's on the acquisition.
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 12, 2014, 07:56:22 PM
That C-19 is sweet! :D Can't wait to see it in action. 8) Congrat's on the acquisition.
John,
I agree, it sure looks good on the layout!
Tom ;D
One step backward, two steps forward...
I had to demo the curve at one end of the layout in order to expand the area for a larger radius curve and some bonus scenery space. I'm trying to do it in what we in the medical industry call "minimally invasive surgery"...so far so good.
John,
It's going to look great when you get the track in and the nice loco running. I definitely like the change.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 18, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
One step backward, two steps forward...
I had to demo the curve at one end of the layout in order to expand the area for a larger radius curve and some bonus scenery space. I'm trying to do it in what we in the medical industry call "minimally invasive surgery"...so far so good.
Candy hasn't chimed in yet, so.......
"Demo". In car talk, that's a demonstrator. Does your film show something didn't work?
Or, demo. I ripped the bejesus out of it and this is what's left?
'Gnat and other intellectuals want to know.
The Ledbetters define "minimally invasive surgery" as permission to go ahead and rip your *ss off!
If you need a bigger, rounded corner, they have some donors available, but I figure that you have
plenty available there in Floridy!!!
If in doubt, add more waterfront trestles!! ;)
This minor addition gives me another area to scenic and display structures as well as a larger curve radius to make sure my switch to HOn3 goes smoothly. I figured another significant length of trestle would break up the "loop" that we all hate to see.
John
Quote from: Cuse on July 22, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
If in doubt, add more waterfront trestles!! ;)
This minor addition gives me another area to scenic and display structures as well as a larger curve radius to make sure my switch to HOn3 goes smoothly. I figured another significant length of trestle would break up the "loop" that we all hate to see.
John
John,
Wow, that is and is going to be a great scene. The loco is a wonderful addition!
Tom ;D
The local kids will love another trestle!
It's okay for my family to come back from AZ now - I am finished laying all of the track. I am now officially HOn3 throughout. There is one small stretch of abandoned HOn30 remaining as I needed to display my prized Carrabasset & Dead River boxcar that David Fugere built for me. I'll just bury it in weeds, etc.
The track has been sprayed with reddish primer and I painted the rail sides with a rail brown paint marker. I will eventually drybrush the ties to bring out the molded grain and, depending on the outcome, tone it down with some A&I. This is right out of Lou Sassi's recent article in MR.
I have one set of feeders powering the whole layout and the layout is operating beautifully. The Blackstone engine is chuffing around, bell ringing, and crawling around and around with a heavy 5 car train. I will drop another half dozen pairs of feeders for good luck and get back to scenery soon.
This was a good move (to HOn3), but I'm still modeling New England...John
John, everything looks great. We need to see more pics of that C-19 running around.
John,
It is looking mighty fine, mighty fine. Can't wait to get my hands on the loco! Isn't it amazing what a guy can get done when the family is away?
Tom ;D
Looks great John.....can't wait to see it up close.
John..........
You are very brave sir......................
Making the switch to all NG is very cool also. I have only about a quarter of my railroad in skinny rail. It is a branch line to a mining district that connects to the standard gauge with team tracks.
It's fun and cool but you have gone off of the deep end ! ! ! ! !
Thanx for putting up the photos.
see ya
Bob
I finished dropping and connecting feeders throughout the layout and soldering an occasional imperfect rail joint and everything is running like a dream. I also got my package from Scenic Express and I wanted to share a photo of a scenery "product" I think is really good. They call it "Super Sage" and, obviously, it's simply bits of Sagebrush. I don't think it's found in this area, but if it's in your geographic area, take a look.
John
It's a shame, but we don't have no sagebrush here in Arkansas, either!
But I do remember Kathy Millat pullin' up a plant in her garden, and the roots made
a fantastic tree.
I ain't pulled up anything that looks that good, either! ;D ;D ;D
Guess we just have crappy plants for model railroading!!!!
In your case, palm fronds just don't cut it! :( :( :( :(
Cutting and fitting, planning and scheming
Trestle #2 coming to life
John
Hi John,
I really like the shape that's taking. The stone abutment leading to the trestle really looks sharp and adds a lot to the scene. Well done! :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 30, 2014, 08:13:08 AM
Hi John,
I really like the shape that's taking. The stone abutment leading to the trestle really looks sharp and adds a lot to the scene. Well done! :D
I agree, it's looking really good!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 25, 2014, 08:47:54 PM
I finished dropping and connecting feeders throughout the layout and soldering an occasional imperfect rail joint and everything is running like a dream. I also got my package from Scenic Express and I wanted to share a photo of a scenery "product" I think is really good. They call it "Super Sage" and, obviously, it's simply bits of Sagebrush. I don't think it's found in this area, but if it's in your geographic area, take a look.
John
John,
congratulations on your scale change. I was just catching up on your change and the trees you got from Scenic Express. I was in northern New Mexico about two weeks ago and drove thru miles of sagebrush. I kept thinking, should I stop the car and go pick some. Well, I had the wife and another couple in the car and they would probably think I was loco ( no pun intended), so I kept on driving. Your tree is just that, Sagebrush. I guess I should have stopped. I bought a bunch of that years ago from a company in Wyoming. Unfortunately, the company is no longer around, because sagebrush makes a wonderful tree. It's about a five hour drive to go get some, so that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Keep up the wonderful work on your layout. Did the family enjoy Arizona?
Frank / Erieman
David and all...........
Yep ..... it is unfortunate that sage brush is relegated to the west.
Try this.............
Go to a lady's craft store and look in the dried flower sections for stuff like Yarrow and Baby's breath.
Then......... when you get home foam 'em up. That is get some 3M spray contact cement. Hair spray doesn't have enough stick'um if you are going to have any operations and people brushing against them; including yourself.
Get two five gallon buckets. One is for holding the branches into and spraying the glue on and letting the bucket catch the over spray. Put the color mixture of coarse ground foams in the other bucket and then splash the branch around in it. Reapply glue until the branch fills out as you like.
Then.............
Switch to a finer ground foam with a very light color and dust that on to finish the tree.
The reason for the light foam is to create color differences between the sun lit outer areas and the darker center of the tree shadows.
I've done clinics on this stuff but this is the condensed version.
Some time I'll give you my Darwinian theory of brain cell development regarding the distillates in the contact cement.
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on July 30, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
Some time I'll give you my Darwinian theory of brain cell development regarding the distillates in the contact cement.
see ya Bob
The Ledbetters are way ahead of you - they've already established living proof of the correlation between brain cell
development (or deterioration) and distill-ates!
Moonshine mixed with fresh tree sap makes a great contact cement! ;D ;D ;D
OK...
It works like this........
If you drown an adequate number of brain cells with the alcoholic substance of your choice, or paint distillate of your choice.......... which will go away first...... the strong brain cells or the weak brain cells.
Darwin would argue the weal ones...........
Therefore............ the more beer I consume and paint I spray........ the smarter I become ! ! ! ! !
see ya
Bob
I learn somethin' evry day!!
I never realized that Bob P. was a genuss (def. Someone that knows more crap than the average
brain can process!!). ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ok, John - you can have your thread back!
The riff-raff have their fun for the night.
Serussy, your trestles are super and are a major focal point on your layout.
I can really appreciate the time, effort, and attentiveness that went into them!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Hey John,
I replied to your e-mail the other day using my phone but I'm not sure it went through so I'll post the answer to your question here.
The engine house is lit with two seperate series of LED's. The positive (red) wire leads into one of Slim's current limiters and from the current limiter it then goes to the first of three LED's. The negative (black) lead of last LED leads out. 3 LED's and 1 current limiter, each requiring 3 volts, means you'll need at least a 12 volt power source. You can go over that, up to 60 volts if I recall correctly, because the current limiter will limit the circuit to just what the LED's require. No math. :D No resistors. ;D
Give me a call in the evening if you have any questions. I'm looking forward to seeing the renovations soon.
Hi,
nice change and you make good progress on the new build....keep it going.
regards,Chris
Thanks Guys.
Bob, got it. Thanks...I hope to have a minute to test it tonight. I think I have an appropriate power supply.
John
Wow. Haven't really experienced LED interior lighting before...very cool. Well done Bob (and Slim). This is an important development!
That really looks GREAT!
That Slim boy knows his LED chit and l'il Bobby is a real quick learner!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
John,
The LEDs really bring it all to life. What a great build by our friend! It's probably a good thing they didn't involved me in my area of expertise. See you later today!
Tom ;D
Uh-oh. Looks like John's hooked on lights. 8)
I gotta give credit where credit is due, the Engine House at Caldwell Junction (http://foslimited.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=87) by Fos Scale Models (http://foslimited.com//) and the lighting is from stuff I bought from Microlumina (http://microlumina.com/store/). I just slapped some paint on some stuff and glued it together. :)
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 01, 2014, 07:44:06 AM
Uh-oh. Looks like John's hooked on lights. 8)
I gotta give credit where credit is due, the Engine House at Caldwell Junction (http://foslimited.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=87) by Fos Scale Models (http://foslimited.com//) and the lighting is from stuff I bought from Microlumina (http://microlumina.com/store/). I just slapped some paint on some stuff and glued it together. :)
"I just slapped some paint on some stuff and glued it together"! Reading Bob, you are such a bold faced kidder! So, let me give credit where credit is due!
The Engine House at Caldwell Junction and the lights by Microlumina would still be in the box and package if all Bob did was slap on some paint and add some lights!
What a kidder that Reading Bob is! Next, he'll probably say he doesn't like building structures and that he is a member of the Saturday Butty Group!
Tom ;D
The lighting on the engine house is great.....
LOOKING GOOD !!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing.
I went to the Great Train Show today with low expectations. They were nowhere near low enough. Sadly, they seemed to have half as many vendors as in past years and the vendors did not have much that was of interest to me. I walked out with 3 pairs of tweezers for $10 - which was timely as mine are all bent or gunked up.
Yesterday, however, was more fruitful. I stopped by ACL Tom's place to swap my un-used Tortoises. Tom's going to weather my Blackstone loco and caboose (as well as apply C&DR decals provided by King Dave himself). I also walked out with another lovely parting gift...FSM Combo Depot built by our resident master, Reading Bob. Tom just didn't have a place for it on his Ovalix and saw me drooling. Then I stopped at the LHS to take a look at some beautiful structures from an estate sale. I ended up with the charming scratchbuilt station below. Suddenly, I am more than ready for passenger service. I even have a Downtown Deco Fallberg station in the box. I can't imagine I'll find a spot for it.
My biggest "problem" now is resisting more structures. There are so many great ones out there. I really really love an underpopulated backwoodsy feel for my New England narrow gauge layout. I've got to put on the brakes here as areas that I earmarked for more rural scenes like a pulpwood loading yard are losing real estate to urban development.
John,
Both stations look great! I'm very pleased I showed you the FSM station built by Reading Bob! I was going to just box it up and stroe it under the layout! Now it has a home and you have another Reading Bob structure.
I did like the blue station and it has a sort of New England look to it and looks good on your layout. Yesterday was a good day for you!
By the way, I wasted my $7 on the train show today as well.
Tom ;D
I tried to call you with a warning about the show!
Thanks again for yesterday!
John
Quote from: Cuse on August 02, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
I tried to call you with a warning about the show!
Thanks again for yesterday!
John
John,
The Judge and I were there around 10:15 and at Smokey Bones eating at 11:15. I did find a couple of DVDs from Green Frog and the Judge found some unpainted seated passengers for the fleet. It was still a waste of time.
Thursday was fun!
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 03, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: Cuse on August 02, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
I tried to call you with a warning about the show!
Thanks again for yesterday!
John
John,
The Judge and I were there around 10:15 and at Smokey Bones eating at 11:15. I did find a couple of DVDs from Green Frog and the Judge found some unpainted seated passengers for the fleet. It was still a waste of time.
Thursday was fun!
Tom ;D
I'm glad I skipped it and saved myself the price of admission. :D
Urban sprawl appears to be headed for backwoods New England. That's the problem with having such a wide selection of really neat structures available. ;D
urban sprawl.....John will have to knock out a wall and expand into the next room ;D
I would like some input if you have any...I would like to have an isolated DCC programming track on the layout. My rolling stock collection is growing and an extra bit of track (powered or not) would be valuable scenically. I'm kicking around this spot...the track would "run off" the edge of the layout, I would cut the rails and ties flush with the edge of the layout to imply continuation. It would be handy, accessible, and I really don't have anywhere else that I would consider cutting in another siding and compromising scenes I'm planning. If this is not workable, I'll probably have to figure out an off-layout solution.
Thoughts?
John
What you're showing should work and look fine John.
Another option is to take an existing siding, isolate it from the mainline, and wire a DPDT switch so that when the switch is thrown one way you have normal track power to the siding but when it's thrown the other way it's your programming track. I had a short siding wired like that on my little layout before I tore it down.
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 04, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
What you're showing should work and look fine John.
Another option is to take an existing siding, isolate it from the mainline, and wire a DPDT switch so that when the switch is thrown one way you have normal track power to the siding but when it's thrown the other way it's your programming track. I had a short siding wired like that on my little layout before I tore it down.
Yup,
What Reading Bob says. That's what I have. Works fine.
Frank / Erieman
John,
Forgot to mention that I really like the structures on your layout. Really captures the New England look. Maybe a little more weathering would be good. Most folks paint the building once ( when built ) and then let it get its worn patina look. Looking great.
Frank / Erieman
Regarding programing tracks....
A DPDT switch is acceptable and safe. to clarify............... programing should not be done on your main railroad trackage as it is too easy for commands to leak out to other locomotives. Although decoders are supposed to be specific in listening and responding.............. programming signals can be seen by unsuspecting decoders and a command be written to all without knowing it.
So a clearly isolated siding or isolateable (is that a word Candy?) section of track is best. There is no requirement that the programing track needs to be anywhere near your railroad for that matter. Many modelers us a Sprog and they can be run from your computer.
I suppose if no other locomotives are on the rails but the target loco........... that is relatively safe.
Best practice.......... separate track.
see ya
Bob
My charming little backwoods railroad is turning into Grand Central terminal. Maybe not quite...
I elected to cut in one more turnout to connect a second siding to the FMS Combo Depot. This will be my programming track (the one closest to the edge of the layout). The rails don't actually touch the turnout, so it's electrically isolated but still looks "connected". I was having a hard time with the idea of a track that was allegedly connected off-layout, so I think this looks better and gives a longer bit of track to display rolling stock,etc.
John
John, I think that your extra siding looks great and is an excellent idea for a programming track!
But the main consideration is "It's your railroad and whatever works best for you!"
You've come up with an excellent solution to match your needs!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
John. Where is Pelham and New Rochelle on your layout? Actually it looks like you line in coming down from Brewster. Clever idea on Grand Central Terminal. It felt like trains could get lost when the New Haven entered those tunnels. Jim
John,
I'm pleased to see that little FSM Depot/Freight House found such a nice (and prominent) home on your layout. :D If I recall correctly I put small bulb inside of the station. We can consider replacing that with some LED's and current limiter if your interested. I think the roof of the station is removable (part of George's design so you could see the interior detail). I'd have to take a closer look to see what's possible. ;)
I would be very interested, Bob. and yes, the roof is removable and there is a big, fat lightbulb in there. I did cut a hole in the benchwork below and pulled the (very short) wires through. It appears the wiring snakes under the awning and exits below the "closed door" structure. I assume the process should be done before I do any further "planting"? So far, I just filled the gaps with a little WS spackling.
Let's talk...John
Quote from: Cuse on August 06, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
I would be very interested, Bob. and yes, the roof is removable and there is a big, fat lightbulb in there. I did cut a hole in the benchwork below and pulled the (very short) wires through. It appears the wiring snakes under the awning and exits below the "closed door" structure. I assume the process should be done before I do any further "planting"? So far, I just filled the gaps with a little WS spackling.
Let's talk...John
Sure thing. We might be able to add the LED"s with the structure in place on the layout. I just need to take a closer look at it. It'll depend on whether there are any additional areas we want to light up. The main building should be easy enough. :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 07, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: Cuse on August 06, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
I would be very interested, Bob. and yes, the roof is removable and there is a big, fat lightbulb in there. I did cut a hole in the benchwork below and pulled the (very short) wires through. It appears the wiring snakes under the awning and exits below the "closed door" structure. I assume the process should be done before I do any further "planting"? So far, I just filled the gaps with a little WS spackling.
Let's talk...John
Sure thing. We might be able to add the LED"s with the structure in place on the layout. I just need to take a closer look at it. It'll depend on whether there are any additional areas we want to light up. The main building should be easy enough. :D
Don't forget to take a fire extinguisher along when you go exploring. ;)
Pretty eventful weekend with two kids going to the same college (on separate days), 23rd wedding anniversary, and school starting for the little guy Monday. I managed to sneak in my Model60 tonight in the form of weathering a depot I purchased from an estate sale from the LHS. The station is scratchbuilt and looks perfect...I'm not a fan of perfect on my layout. I spent some patient time prying up individual shingles from the prominent roof and then applied my usual heavy-handed drybrushing and some application of various Bragdon powders to the walls and decking as well as some drainage patterns on the roof. There's a before pic somewhere recently on this thread.
John
That depot looks great! I love the weathered and worn look, particularly the roof! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Darn, what are you doing? Takin' the entrance exam for the Satiddy Butty Gang? 8) 8) 8)
John,
Great job on the depot! The weathering looks great.
Gman, John don't need no zam fo da Satiddy group! He's one of the founding six!
Tom ;D
I'm glad there is no entrance exam.....nice weathering job John, that's an interesting looking station.
I've started to rough in a rocky coastline around my new corner depot. This is the area that I had to expand to accomodate a broader curve radius. My plan, as of this second, is to position Executioners Rocks (at least the big Sailmaker building) on the inside of the loop. I would likely elevate it on a pedestal of rock, concrete, and earth, in the same vein as Doug did on his display.
John
Two thumbs up John! We gotta get over to check it out one of these days. :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 24, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
Two thumbs up John! We gotta get over to check it out one of these days. :D
What Bob said! 8)
Don't know if this is photo-worthy, but it's one of those things I love to complete...I finished rebuilding the fascia around the expanded curve area. It's what smacks you in the face when you enter the room (sometimes literally), so I'm really glad I got it to a more finished appearance. I still have to sand, patch and paint it, but that's not a high priority for now. That large sea of pink is where I intend to plant Executioners Rocks some day.
John
John,
It sure is looking good. Can't wait to see it all in virtual reality!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on September 01, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
Don't know if this is photo-worthy, but it's one of those things I love to complete...I finished rebuilding the fascia around the expanded curve area. It's what smacks you in the face when you enter the room (sometimes literally), so I'm really glad I got it to a more finished appearance. I still have to sand, patch and paint it, but that's not a high priority for now. That large sea of pink is where I intend to plant Executioners Rocks some day.
John
Looking good John - Executioners Rock is going to look great there.
What Tom said..... 8)
When I get swamped at work and with my lovely family, sometimes I feed my MR appetite with an impulse buy...
Gee, good news, I thought it was only me...
Nice structure.
Hal
Cuse,
Great hotel and great addition to the railroad. I think it's time to get the loco and caboose decaled and weathered.
Tom ;D
That's quite a building John.....don't forget to have the termite inspector over..... ;D
Tom,
I agree. Just let me know when you're around the cave. I'm in and out of downtown every week. I drove right by your house yesterday.
Can't wait. I figure we can unveil the paint jobs at my place and I'll make sure I get something done by then to show you guys.
Text or call or email anytime...John
John,
Good to see you this afternoon.
I'll start the thread and get it decaled but do you want me to hold off on the weathering photos until after the "Big Reveal"? This is going to be fun.
Tom ;D
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 19, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Darn good thing for John that the ovalix is standard gauge. ;)
I thought of that Bob. I went by yesterday to make sure he didn't sneak any dual gauge trackage into that man-eater.
Tom, Please share away. I'm dying to see it as it occurs. I've never been one of those "Doctor, don't tell me what the Ultrasound shows" Dads ;D
I better get crackin'. I really want to have something, anything new to show you guys at the next SBG North meet.
John
John,
Okay, I'll get to it this coming week. As I said it will be fun. And, John, don't forget to bring the piece of track!
Tom ;D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 19, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Ya'll hear how this
probationary member of the SBG is being a smart mouth with the EL Presidente? Cut him a little slack, he is a Pennsy fan after all.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 19, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 19, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Darn good thing for John that the ovalix is standard gauge. ;)
You know Bobby, that really hurt! I'm so hurt I'm only going to let you build the rest of my FSM kits. The good news is that I only have 22 unbuilt ones left.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 20, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 19, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 19, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Darn good thing for John that the ovalix is standard gauge. ;)
You know Bobby, that really hurt! I'm so hurt I'm only going to let you build the rest of my FSM kits. The good news is that I only have 22 unbuilt ones left.
Tom ;D
Oh my! What a horrible punishment. :o I guess I'd better start serving my sentence soon. ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 20, 2014, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 19, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Hopefully there will be no smoke and fire connected to this project.
Bill
Ya'll hear how this probationary member of the SBG is being a smart mouth with the EL Presidente? Cut him a little slack, he is a Pennsy fan after all.
Tom ;D
Hey, isn't the new guy always fair game? ::)
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 20, 2014, 08:41:50 AM
John,
Okay, I'll get to it this coming week. As I said it will be fun. And, John, don't forget to bring the piece of track!
Tom ;D
John, forget?
That would be like forgetting to put the goodies in a Blizzard!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Hey, isn't the new guy always fair game? ::)
This new guy is quickly gaining points toward becoming a member of 'The Ledbetter
Tacky-Ass Club'!!
Darnell Ledbetter
President and Chief Tacky-Ass!
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 21, 2014, 11:57:49 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 20, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
You know Bobby, that really hurt! I'm so hurt I'm only going to let you build the rest of my FSM kits. The good news is that I only have 22 unbuilt ones left. Tom ;D
Oh my! What a horrible punishment. :o I guess I'd better start serving my sentence soon. ;D
Condolences and 'You freakin' lucky devil!' from Arkansas (home of the Ledbetters - lucky that they didn't
steal 'em first!).
Quote from: gnatshop on September 21, 2014, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Hey, isn't the new guy always fair game? ::)
This new guy is quickly gaining points toward becoming a member of 'The Ledbetter
Tacky-Ass Club'!!
Darnell Ledbetter
President and Chief Tacky-Ass!
I will keep trying to become worthy of becoming a member of both. Thank you Gman ;D ;D. Greg tries to make it harder to break into the SBG. Time will tell ;D ;D ;D
Bill
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on September 22, 2014, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: gnatshop on September 21, 2014, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Hey, isn't the new guy always fair game? ::)
This new guy is quickly gaining points toward becoming a member of 'The Ledbetter
Tacky-Ass Club'!!
Darnell Ledbetter
President and Chief Tacky-Ass!
I will keep trying to become worthy of becoming a member of both. Thank you Gman ;D ;D . Greg tries to make it harder to break into the SBG. Time will tell ;D ;D ;D
Bill
Who me? ::)
Time to wake up this dormant thread...
1- ACL Tom returned my beloved little Blackstone C-19 and caboose from his shops complete with beautiful new paint, weathering and C&DR decals direct from Dave Frary. I love that there's something of a direct connection between my little layout and the one that inspired it beginning in 1977.
2- I made some progress on the Foscale Distillery background flat kit. It has a long way to go, but I plan to feature it high on a hill overlooking the harbor. I want to support it primarily with stone walls and create a large deck overhanging the hillside.
3- Our old buddy, David Fugere (Cuzzin Dave) checked in with a photo of one of the Pulpwood cars he's built for me. Fantastic!
It's been a good week for my backwoods short line in the woods. Thanks to my talented and generous friends!
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 14, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
Time to wake up this dormant thread...
2. I made some progress on the Foscale Distillery background flat kit. It has a long way to go, but I plan to feature it high on a hill overlooking the harbor. I want to support it primarily with stone walls and create a large deck overhanging the hillside.
Dr. Ben's Baby Building Blocks are great for creating stone walls!
http://www.debenllc.com/Baby-Building-Blocs-Split-Granite-Assorted-Colors-Doctor-Bens_p_168.html (http://www.debenllc.com/Baby-Building-Blocs-Split-Granite-Assorted-Colors-Doctor-Bens_p_168.html)
He also has bigger packages and different colors - just search his website.
Looking good John, thanks for the link Gnat
Quote from: Janbouli on November 15, 2014, 03:43:48 AM
Looking good John, thanks for the link Gnat
John,
Wow, the layout is looking good. The pulpwood car looks fantastic. It's getting close to a Northern Butty Group meet.
Tom ;D
John,
Great to see the shot of the engine against some scenery, has to be great to see it moving thru the layout. David certainly did an outstanding job on that pulpwood car, the rack adds so much interest to a common flat.
The hotel on the hillside is coming together. I need to finish the roof and some detailing and weathering. I also ordered some finials to spruce up the distillery to look a little more like a hotel. I saw that PostalKarl did a build of this kit and classed it up with added finials on each dormer peak. I also plan to build a large overhanging deck offering a view of the harbor and a long stairway down for those meeting their train at the little Downtown Deco Fallberg station that I have slated for the foreground. Other than that...trees all around. I've not even begun to begin building the station, but I've attached a pic that I love.
John
I love the concept that you have in mind!!
The Fallberg Station just has an amazing appeal to it.
Another thing to consider might be some lightning rods on the hotel -
just glue a small bead (your choice of color) on a the shaft of a pin and
stick them in the roof peak.
Very nice John, look forward to seeing it this weekend. 8)
I DID get a bit done today! Still plenty to do here...roof, railings, hopefully I can find tables with umbrellas or I'll have to come up with an awning, etc. Lots more detailing and weathering too. Pondering some kind of bunting hanging off of the deck. I think a shabby, but brightly colored detail like that would contrast with the overwhelming grayness of my early winter layout. It would scream "off season" if I got it right.
See you tomorrow SBG, I called your names in to the front. See you at 10.
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 22, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
See you tomorrow SBG, I called your names in to the front. See you at 10.
John
Wish I could make it to 'crash' the SBG meetin' ( or better known a the BS meetin')!!
But, 10 on a Sunday mornin' is a little early for me!! ::) ::) ::)
Besides, the Ledbetters don't like havin' to pass by them wanna-be cops at a gate!!
It's going to be fun. The SBG has two new members who plan to be there this morning as well. Pictures to follow later this afternoon.
Gman, you are an honorary member of the "BS meetin"!
Tom ;D
Hi there,
that hotel scene is developing very nice......like it...
Cheers,Chris
Great thread,Nice job!!
This past Sunday morning the SBG met at Cuse's house for an update on what John has been doing on his layout. Here are a few pictures and I have more but I need more time to upload them.
John's scenery is that backwoods New England in the Fall scenery. I'll tell you that he has captured the look very well.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241114181543.jpeg)
Dang train, getting in the way of me taking newbie SBG Bill Cutler's photo.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241114181600.jpeg)
Bill and Kris' layout is featured here.
http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=313.0 (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=313.0)
Continued in a few.
Here's the Hotel John has started for the tourists to the area. The roofers have been a little lazy in the cold weather.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241114181659.jpeg)
This wharf area is to the left of the hotel.
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(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241114181639.jpeg)
This is the FSM Old Time Station I gave John. It was built by non other than our own Master Builder Reading Bob!
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Continued in a few.
This is the end of the pictures for now!
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Mr. John, thanks for having us over to see your progress, we loved the different venues on the layout . We need to get you up to our neck of the woods. Kris really liked some of the things you have done, now a Scenic Express order is in progress. Do you ever think the Gman will make it to Floridy
Tom,
Thanks for sharing the photos with us. That steamer sure looks at home dragging those freight cars thru the trees.
John,
Beautiful modeling, you have really captured the barren tree technique. I really like the way the hotel is shaping up with the long stairway and deck. What are you planning to do with the freight doors?
Bob,
Beautiful job on the FSM station, sure looks at home on John's layout.
Hi,
Nice pictures of a very fine layout....looking at those fall pictures it´s getting colder immediately....
Thanks for sharing,
Cheers,Chris
Thanks guys, for the comments and thanks to Tom for the pics. I always enjoy other what other people "see", photos have become a great modeling tool.
Regarding the doors...I'm planning to build a canopy over the deck once I get the roof finished and the building secured to the base. So, I can't imagine the doors will be that visible. I'm hoping to get to a craft store today to check out fabrics and also try to find something to help me make a railing around the deck. Maybe some sort of lattice simulation -something a little classier than just wood railings.
I've got a nice pinstriped Ralph Lauren dress shirt that keeps entering my "vision"for the awning...so I'd better find something quick, before I do something rash ;D
John
Gnat's always welcome at the hotel, but since he'll likely be traveling by freight car, he'll need to carry his trunk up those stairs!
:P
Quote from: Cuse on November 25, 2014, 06:57:50 AM
Gnat's always welcome at the hotel, but since he'll likely be traveling by freight car, he'll need to carry his trunk up those stairs!
:P
;D ;D
dave
Had a great time Sunday.....the layout is loooking great.....your new steamer is really nice and sounds great too.....see you next time. 8)
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 24, 2014, 09:56:19 PM
Tom,
Thanks for sharing the photos with us. That steamer sure looks at home dragging those freight cars thru the trees.
John,
Beautiful modeling, you have really captured the barren tree technique. I really like the way the hotel is shaping up with the long stairway and deck. What are you planning to do with the freight doors?
Bob,
Beautiful job on the FSM station, sure looks at home on John's layout.
Thanks Jerry! I built that one around 30 years ago. :o I really enjoy seeing it on John's layout. It found a great home. :D I need to figure out how the heck I can replace the grain of wheat bulbs I put in way back when with LED's. I spoiled John by lighting up the engine house with LED's. ;)
Nice job on the hotel and the location.
It was very common to have double doors in hotels leading out to the deck. But they would have glass in the upper part. I would remove the cross buck bracing and put a full glass panel in for the upper 2/3. The bracing just doesn't look right and being up on a hill it may show.
8)
Quote from: Cuse on November 25, 2014, 06:57:50 AM
Gnat's always welcome at the hotel, but since he'll likely be traveling by freight car, he'll need to carry his trunk up those stairs!
:P
WHAATT?You mean to tell me that faincee hotel ain't got no bellhops!!!
Guess I'll have to bring along my personal bellhop, Darnell Ledbetter! Hope that faincee place at least has some spittoons! ;D ;D :D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on November 24, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
Mr. John, thanks for having us over to see your progress, we loved the different venues on the layout . We need to get you up to our neck of the woods. Kris really liked some of the things you have done, now a Scenic Express order is in progress. Do you ever think the Gman will make it to Floridy
Bill,
I was good to see you and Kris on Sunday. I'm glad ya'll finally met the Cuse. He definitely needs to see what you and Kris have been doing on your layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 24, 2014, 09:56:19 PM
Tom,
Thanks for sharing the photos with us. That steamer sure looks at home dragging those freight cars thru the trees.
John,
Beautiful modeling, you have really captured the barren tree technique. I really like the way the hotel is shaping up with the long stairway and deck. What are you planning to do with the freight doors?
Bob,
Beautiful job on the FSM station, sure looks at home on John's layout.
Jerry,
You are very welcome and thank you for stopping by for a look.
Tom ;D
Quote from: gnatshop on November 25, 2014, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: Cuse on November 25, 2014, 06:57:50 AM
Gnat's always welcome at the hotel, but since he'll likely be traveling by freight car, he'll need to carry his trunk up those stairs!
:P
WHAATT?
You mean to tell me that faincee hotel ain't got no bellhops!!!
Guess I'll have to bring along my personal bellhop, Darnell Ledbetter! Hope that faincee place at least has some spittoons! ;D ;D :D
Gman,
You come on down and I'll carry your carpet bag! ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I had time to do a few more pictures.
It does look a little bit cold doesn't it?
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194324.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194340.jpeg)
The red switcher is warmed up and ready for some switching at the station.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194356.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194356.jpeg)
I think this is a neat scene - looking down the river. Dang the Judge and Greg always trying to get in the photo.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194416.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194416.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
Here's another FOS structure built by Reading Bob!
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(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194449.jpeg)
In the photo above you can see the C&DR RR yellow boxcar and log car built by Dave F. of Daytona Beach.
The next picture shows the abandoned "N" scale track.
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251114194541.jpeg)
Here's my take on the Foscale Distillery background structure. I pushed the Hotel St. George to a nearly finished state by adding the roof, adding some finials, and building the deck railings and canopy. It could use a bit more powder weathering and some patio furniture. I also have a couple of primed castings that I still need to finish and add including a nice chimney or two.
John
Neat project. I'd like to sit on the porch with a beer and watch the trains go by. Jim
John,
I like that porch. It reminds me of photos of the grand hotels in the Catskills of upstate NY.
Thanks Guys...I wish I'd had that awning done before the SBG visit - I feel like it came out well.
Yesterday and today, I did a bit of unglamorous work. I landscaped a couple of long stretches of homasote. I still need to clean the tracks and add more layers of detail including debris, ties, etc and lots and lots of trees. Eventually, I intend to drybrush the ties and finally ballast. I best not wait too long on ballast as the weeds are really taking over. ::)
Next up...likely a kit or some dockwork.
Hearing Reading Bob gripe about Jordan vehicles has got me pretty shook up...I've got a bunch of them in my future as I strive to getting a little more era appropriate. :o
John
Quote from: Cuse on December 14, 2014, 11:23:30 AMHearing Reading Bob gripe about Jordan vehicles has got me pretty shook up...I've got a bunch of them in my future as I strive to getting a little more era appropriate. :o
:D :D :D :D :D :D
The hotel makes for a great scene John.....and the awning gives it a bit panache! 8)
John,
Jordan vehicles are easy, but they are time consuming. I started these when I was 48, I'm now 68! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132240.jpeg)
Tom 8)
John,
The layout is looking great. Nice photos from Tom. You guys are having too much fun. Keep up the good work and more pics please.
Frank / Erieman
Frank/Erieman wanted more pictures so here are the rest of the ones I took at John's home.
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(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141515.jpeg)
SBG Greg DeMayo in the next photo.
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(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141552.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141607.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141626.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141643.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141658.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141715.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214141732.jpeg)
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Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 14, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
John,
Jordan vehicles are easy, but they are time consuming. I started these when I was 48, I'm now 68! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg)
Tom 8)
And how old will you be when they are finished ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Janbouli on December 14, 2014, 03:18:56 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 14, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
John,
Jordan vehicles are easy, but they are time consuming. I started these when I was 48, I'm now 68! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg)
Tom 8)
And how old will you be when they are finished ;) ;) ;)
Jan,
They are finished, and I'm still 68! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Tom,
Thanks for posting the beautiful pictures of John's layout. Awesome. I'm assuming that the missing ballast is because the change of scale. Once the ballast is in, he is ready for a magazine cover. Looking great john, keep up the beautiful work.
Frank / Erieman
I've done a bit of scenic "fill-in" along the coast line including paving the parking lot by the little station. The gears of progress ground to a halt when my static grass machine crapped out. Eventually, things will be a lot less groomed along the coastline with static grass, scenic tufts, etc followed by some updated paint and mod podge waves. I plan to add more white detail after studying Troels Kirk's water coloring.
I'll have to find a few more things to do while awaiting word back from Noch on my favorite tool. :P
John
Quote from: Cuse on January 03, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
I've done a bit of scenic "fill-in" along the coast line including paving the parking lot by the little station. The gears of progress ground to a halt when my static grass machine crapped out. Eventually, things will be a lot less groomed along the coastline with static grass, scenic tufts, etc followed by some updated paint and mod podge waves. I plan to add more white detail after studying Troels Kirk's water coloring.
I'll have to find a few more things to do while awaiting word back from Noch on my favorite tool. :P
John
John,
You can borrow my Grass Master until you get the other one finished. Bob and I are part owners in the GM so you are welcome to use it! I'll be here Monday afternoon and the rest of the week.
Tom ;D
The layout is looking great!!
Tom Wilson
BUMP!
An old friend brought up our old modeling hobby (6th grade?), so I directed him here to let him fully appreciate the sickness.
this will help him find it...John
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 14, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
John,
Jordan vehicles are easy, but they are time consuming. I started these when I was 48, I'm now 68! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132300.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141214132240.jpeg)
Tom 8)
Well, you had to let the paint dry completely. ;D Beautiful layout
It's not exactly progress, but I did make some acquisitions recently (in lieu of labor ;) ).
I purchased, a while back, 15 or 16 Sterling Models handmade foreground trees - these things are amazing and a beautiful complement to my leafless Supertree forests. For now, they're just stuck in the foam "nursery" area to be positioned later as the scenery comes together.
Today, I placed an order for the new Bar Mills Cundy Harbor kit. I new I couldn't resist this one - Bar Mills + waterfront + missing the Expo...I also ordered the Hat Company structure from the Cundy Village set. I have to think that these acquisitions signals the end of the N scale "forced perspective" end of my layout when the time comes. It could honestly be years before I get to it, but I imagine I'll carve it out as a display module to give my little backwoods road another waterfront destination. If I find an alternative to that plan, I'll happily embrace it - but real estate is scarce.
John
Quote from: Cuse on April 05, 2015, 10:10:07 AM
.....If I find an alternative to that plan, I'll happily embrace it - but real estate is scarce.....
John
Scarce real estate.....not a problem John. All we have to do is blow out that exterior wall, get a variance for the set back and add on until the neighbors scream.....UNCLE!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Great idea and I'm sure the variance will be no problem. He can also close in part of the garage. I think the train room shares a wall in the garage.
Anything I can do to help.
Tom ;D
John, ain't it great to have such good butties (or is that butt-ins) to offer such wonderful
house re-buildin' suggestions? ??? ???
I'm sure that bof'em have got their hammers in hand to help out!! Or is that Buttie cushions
for their supervisin'?? :-\ :-\ :-\
They are very helpful...they have not met my wife! >:(
John
Quote from: Cuse on April 05, 2015, 06:36:03 PM
They are very helpful...they have not met my wife! >:(
John
Uh.....Oh..... :-X
I actually did some work...I built the Bar Mills Hank's Fuel today. I plan to place it as a water source for thirsty little Blackstone engines. Upon examining the photos, 2 things pop out. (1) a slightly more substantial base would elevate the spout just a little more while keeping it "charming", and (2) I never did hit that thing with any dry brushing - it disappears next to the engine. It actually has some nice cast in detail.
As soon as C&DR #102 finishes her drink, I'll get out the dry brush.
Feels good to touch the layout - it's been a while...John
Looks good John....can't wait to see it in person. 8)
Looks real good John! Compliments that beautiful little engine quite nicely. :D
John,
Very nice job on the water tank.
Tom ;D
Got some work in yesterday and today. I did some goop and ground cover in the yard area as well as some ballasting. I figured there'd be glue flying everywhere anyway, so.... I still have to soak it all with glue and I'll add static grass to much of the natural areas as well. I've got lots of nice Sterling Models and SuperTrees to fill in and divide up the scene. I also plan to add some fences and detail for the rest of my life.
John
John,
That is really a great looking scene. I love the Fall theme.
Tom ;D
The scene is looking really good.
Tom W
Looks so realistic John , well done.
On man! That scenery makes all the difference in the world. Well done! That's turning into a signature scene for sure. The only thing missing is that beautifully weathered little Blackstone loco. :D
Looks great, John.
Jeff
Thanks Guys. I appreciate the interest. I still haven't gotten to the gluing and static grass step. I better hope a strong wind doesn't blow through here :'(
I hope to get to that tonight. Followed closely by TREEEEEES. Then, I believe, it will be a lot less toylike and the flatness and orderliness will be obliterated. The idea (for me) is to make it look like the RR is carved out of nature as opposed to nature being planted around the track plan. I'm rooting for nature in this eternal battle. (I just like that look) ;)
Hope to have more to share soon...John
Got a bit more done today. Static grass over other texture and a handful of trees planted. I still plan to fill in quite a bit with more leafless Supertrees. It seems a shame to "hide" Reading Bob's beautiful engine house...but that's what Mother Nature would do...
John
John...
Very cool scene.
see ya
Bob
Looks great, nice job!
John,
Those evergreen trees change the entire look for the better. Well done, well done.
Tom ;D
Looking good John! 8)
Love it John. The scene evokes a feeling of "comfortable" .... :)
Amazing scenery John, love it.
I love the shot looking down the river! Perfect placement.
Guess I'm gonna have to say somethin' nice for a change!!
It's lookin' great! As much as I love the old dead trees, I'm glad that the Floridy cooties didn't kill
all the trees!!!
Quote from: coors2u on June 13, 2015, 08:39:18 PM
I love the shot looking down the river! Perfect placement.
Ditto that. If there was a backdrop on that wall I'd swear that was a real scene and not a model. :D
Thanks guys. I appreciate the kind words and the interest. I'm really happy with the ground texture...it's such a ridiculous haphazard process but sometimes it comes out like it was planned and executed so finely. Each layer of texture is largely dependent on which container I grab out of the bin. ::)
I've got a bit more ballasting to do around the peninsula track (as long as operations are ceased), then I'd really like to throw together some wooden fences near the engine house just to add a little more grey to the color scheme. I also need to treat the crossings - they're just raw wood at the moment.
John
Question/offer...
I've got the following HO vehicles (below) and I'm trying to get more accurate in my era appropriateness. I'd like to be early '40's so I can put a couple of horse drawn wagons along with (I think) Model T type vehicles. I should just call it 1941 (I've plagiarized everything else from Frary and Hayden's first layout-I might as well steal the date too). But, after looking through the Jordan Highway Miniatures listings, I'm partial to some of the 1920's vehicles, like the 1925 Ford Panel Truck, the 1928 Ford Model A Pickup, the 1920 Ford Center Door Sedan, and the 1923 Ford Model T Stake Bed.
I really like the lumber truck - can anyone hazard a good guess as to it's model year?
Pt. 2...anyone want to trade a couple of finished, era-appropriate Jordan Highway Miniatures (Tom?) for the 4 shown here? They're marketed as "scenes from the 40's and 50's" - so they might be great for someone with the right era. Win-win for someone I hope...Let me know if any of you are interested.
Thanks...John
John....
If you are looking for vehicles that represent 1940-41 you are in luck. Recall that the guvment shut off production from feb 42 to about May 45. So almost all 45-46 and early47 all looked like 39-40-41 vehicles.
Mini metals and a few other makers are making post war cars and. Trucks that can be back dated easily.
The most notable change was fender color. Pre war were almost all black fender. Post war started matching body color.
For truck colors in Chevrolet, pre war were: Brewster green, royal blue, a very few all black and even fewer red with black fenders. Dodge was nearly the same as was ford. All rather boring for our purposes. But back dating is easy.
One super detail fine point on chev trucks. 41 had the key lock IN the door handle. 46 and later the key lock was about 4 inches down from the handle.
See ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on June 14, 2015, 08:25:34 PM
One super detail fine point on chev trucks. 41 had the key lock IN the door handle. 46 and later the key lock was about 4 inches down from the handle.
See ya
Bob
And of course the tire valve was on the bottom side of the tires on the pre 46 models ;) ;) ;)
Ummmmmmm. What !!!!!????
See ya
Bob
Cuse,
I sent you an email in reference to a trade.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on June 15, 2015, 11:11:22 AM
Ummmmmmm. What !!!!!? ???
See ya
Bob
The following truck is obviously a 1945 truck , the valve is at 1 o'clock, had it been a 1940 truck it would have been at 6 o'clock, had it been a 1946 model it would have been at 12 o 'clock ;) ;) ;)
(http://coloradoguy.com/chevy-truck4.jpg)
Too funny Jan! ;D
John - I think I mentioned this before but you're welcome to pick through my stash of UNBUILT Jordon's and take any that you may need. ;)
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 15, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
Too funny Jan! ;D
John - I think I mentioned this before but you're welcome to pick through my stash of UNBUILT Jordon's and take any that you may need. ;)
Bob,
Cuse just left! He walked away with 5 built Jordan kits, three unknown vehicles and 11
UNBUILT Jordan kits. I think he is headed your way with the unbuilt kits.
Have fun! 8)
Tom ;D
Jan...
I'm still lost. What establishes 12 or 6 ?????
I've got to help Reading Bob work through his unreasonable dread of Jordan kits. A Jedi Ninja model builder like him should never acknowledge his fear of ANY modeling challenge! ;)
Thanks for the swap Tom. I'll deliver the hotel soon. It'll look great on your layout...John
Quote from: bparrish on June 15, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
Jan...
I'm still lost. What establishes 12 or 6 ??? ??
Where the valve is on the clock, but these are such fine details , hard to see on an HO model. ;D
Quote from: Cuse on June 15, 2015, 07:07:21 PM
Thanks for the swap Tom. I'll deliver the hotel soon. It'll look great on your layout...John
John,
My pleasure and thank you. Looking forward to the hotel but there is no hurry - when you get the time is fine.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on June 15, 2015, 02:11:15 PM
Quote from: bparrish on June 15, 2015, 11:11:22 AM
Ummmmmmm. What !!!!!? ???
See ya
Bob
The following truck is obviously a 1945 truck , the valve is at 1 o'clock, had it been a 1940 truck it would have been at 6 o'clock, had it been a 1946 model it would have been at 12 o 'clock ;) ;) ;)
(http://coloradoguy.com/chevy-truck4.jpg) (http://coloradoguy.com/chevy-truck4.jpg)
You guys have this all wrong - to be prototypically correct you need to have at least 2 lug nuts missing on these 8 lug nut wheels. Also, post war tires had lots of patches.
John
The layout looks great! I enjoyed looking back through the thread. One comment on the vehicles - I was born in 1958 and I remember my Grandpa's model T truck and model A Sedan that he used everyday until his death in 1968. The farmers learned how to keep these vehicles running forever thanks to the depression and the war. He also had a new Chevy stake truck that I believe was a 1948. I remember calling it Grandpa's new truck and it had to be 15 years old. The point of this little story is that the old vehicles are prototypically correct, even if they are 40 or more years old.
Hello John
Super layout thread but I should stop at this site more often. You are doing s great job! I'm hoping after the August wedding I'll have time to scoot on over to visit with you and the Florida Mafia errrrr group. That's quite a stash of Jordan's you got from Tom. Have fun after one you will be hooked. Had a great time visiting with you yesterday and catching up on our life's. Keep up the excellent work and your welcome here anytime. Maybe next time the plow will be finished.
David
Thanks for the reviews. Track is cleaned, ballast secure, vehicles and rolling stock populated, train running and a few dozen more trees planted. When I look at the before and afters, I'm really happy with the ballast color and impact (Erieman called that one).
John
What a great scene. John you really have something nice there. Looks like it should be on a magazine cover.
Looks great John. Saw your comment to me about Mancuso Tree Service. That's where you must of inherited your tree skills. Jim
True, Jim. Many years in the branches of Westchester County, NY. But I never learned to put them up ::)
Thanks for watching. I'm here all week.
John
Looks good John.....SBG north meet to check it out up close & personal. 8)
Some different angles. The piece of plastic leaning on the engine house is marking a possible wooden fence to come.
John
More. Photos help me model...
(1) straighten the finial on the FSM station roof
(2) That fence placement really doesn't make sense, but I really want to find a spot for a beat up wooden fence with signs and missing boards
(3) I'm considering a ball signal (BEST) just to the starboard side of the shorty boxcar behind the red engine
John
Superb John , somehow you even got the river to look all winter like.
Quote from: Janbouli on June 16, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: bparrish on June 15, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
Jan...
I'm still lost. What establishes 12 or 6 ??? ??
Where the valve is on the clock, but these are such fine details , hard to see on an HO model. ;D
Makes 'ya glad you're not modeling in N scale or Z. 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on June 20, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on June 16, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: bparrish on June 15, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
Jan...
I'm still lost. What establishes 12 or 6 ??? ??
Where the valve is on the clock, but these are such fine details , hard to see on an HO model. ;D
Makes 'ya glad you're not modeling in N scale or Z. 8)
A new one on me ..... clocks with VALVES????? :-\
Bar Mills InstaFence. So easy and effective.
Some details, litter, weeds and I think I'll call it a day.
Looking ....
(http://www.jelsert.com/Products/Desserts/images/mytfine/mytfine_reg.jpg)
Quote from: Cuse on June 21, 2015, 02:20:20 PM
Some details, litter, weeds and I think I'll call it a day.
Looking good! It is all about those details.
John,
I agree with everyone else. The devil is in the details and you are doing a very fine job of it. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Thanks for the comments, gents.
I'm on a short vacation, but I brought my idea notebook and am thinking about next projects.
1. BEST ball signal arrived in the mail before I left. That will add a splash of color to the winter drab of the yard.
2. Started building switch stands before I left-felt like I was back in N scale
3. Line poles with EZ thread - have to first decide on plausible placement. I've seen layouts where the power lines just overwhelmed the scene.
John
I finished one of the two BEST ball signal kits that came in the box. I also can see the two switch stands I assembled in the pictures attached. I still have to plant those and paint the targets - I really just put them on the layout to keep them out of harm's way for now. I do like the vertical elements and color these additions bring to my yard/railroad headquarters.
John
Those ball signals are really neat John. 8)
Looking good John!!
Bill
Last night I was looking for something to do on the layout, but not quite physically motivated to get my hands on something delicate. I got started reviewing some of my to-do lists and it led me to favorite articles, layout profiles, to inventory my unbuilt kits and existing rolling stock, and eventually, back through my binders of notes and ideas that I have kept pretty consistently since around 2008 (probably around the time I found the Scotty Mason Podcast-->The online forum-->The Craftsman Structure Show-->The SBG (my local group of modelers I discovered by way of some guys in New England) -->The Expo, etc. right up to the present day). It was great to see the progression of my modeling and refinement of what I really wanted to accomplish. The point I'm at now is really exactly where it all led, almost like an evolution. Less compromises, more focus on what I value, and I'm completely comfortable with my total disregard for what I don't care about (like realistic operations, heavy industry...).
I started writing a profile of my layout...it's purpose, it's influences, it's location, era, etc. I thought this might help me focus my modeling going forward and I believe it does. Once I started, it just poured out. One point led to another and the vision became clearer and clearer. It was actually a lot of fun. I've NEVER considered myself a prototype modeler or even a fan. I am a shameless modeler of my favorite models. The pages of Model Railroader and the Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette were always my primary ways of "rail fanning". I filled in some gaps with information obtained from various sources and came away with the attached. I'm not modeling specific places or operations, but I understand that a realistic narrative helps the scenery look "right". Everything in the story and on the layout is borrowed from my modeling heroes...from town names to specific scenic elements - I see it as a tribute (but maybe I'm just an uncreative copycat).
I wasn't going to share it, but maybe some of you might find it useful. My kit building and craftsmanship doesn't rival some of the awesome talent on this thread, but I'm a pretty good organizer of information. This kind of project works for me, maybe you'll find it has some application for your layouts too...
Great story and presentation John.....terrific way to organize your thoughts. I enjoyed the read. 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 12, 2015, 10:10:18 AM
Great story and presentation John.....terrific way to organize your thoughts. I enjoyed the read. 8)
Ditto, SBG John.
Tom ;D
I wish I could be as organized and thoughtful as you, John.
I'm just a lot of loose thoughts and plans in my head. I build things that I like
and just try to find an idea to make them fit in.
Your lay-out and planning get my highest Kudos! Keep up the great work!!!
Hi,
nice story for your railroad. Well done and very believable history.
Cheers,Chris
Quote from: gnatshop on July 13, 2015, 12:12:29 AM
I wish I could be as organized and thoughtful as you, John.
I'm just a lot of loose thoughts and plans in my head. I build things that I like
and just try to find an idea to make them fit in.
Your lay-out and planning get my highest Kudos! Keep up the great work!!!
Naw!! That couldn't be Gnat???? Could it????
...great stuff John..while I don't want to hijack this thread, this is as good a place as any for me to comment....John and this layout were a big motivation to me to get my passion back in the hobby....some of you visited my old layout....over 1800 square feet of layout....lots of locos, cars, vehicles, structures, etc....I thought a very nice layout and presentation....but missing a definite direction.....
..with this downsize move we're doing I knew I would have to make some decisions....some as severe as maybe not even having a layout...but John has helped me decide to -
- work with a specific date - April 24, 1934
- a specific purpose, logging to the mills and docks
- specific locale - Alleghany mountains of MD to the docks/waterways of NC
- loads of specific details per scene, every scene will have a purpose and a population
- craftsman kit structures (probably a lot of CCK stuff ::) )
- specific locos and rolling stock (quality not quantity)
- to borrow from Howard Zane, to attempt to make the layout an artistic venture
.....of note, I will only have about 300 square feet to work with for my layout room.....but it is intended to have 2 levels plus a third mountain level, so there will be plenty of opportunities for my "plan"
....my thanks to John for what he has done and shown us on this thread, it has been my inspiration as I move forward on the NEW Pine Valley Timber Company.....
Wow...I'm speechless. Thanks for all of your feedback and encouragement.
John
A little cobbling of a Jordan cab built by ACL Tom and a cool little water tank by Cuzzin Dave Fugere and a quickie flatbed by me produced this...
John
Sweet looking little truck John! :D It's got the perfect look for your layout.
P.S. - I'm delinquent in reading your document but I'll get around to it. ;)
Quote from: Cuse on July 13, 2015, 05:41:19 PM
Wow
I'm speechless. Thanks for all of your feedback and encouragement.
John
Cuse, be careful buyin' a new hat - it might not fit your head!!
(Said in the spirit of a wish-to-be SBG member!)
Usually you say "That pic looks like the real thing".
Here's one from the WW&F Ry. Museum in Maine. "That looks kind of like a real train...oh wait, it is!"
THIS is what I want to do on my layout
John
It's a reflection on the quality of railroad modeling and photography that some of us looked at that and said, "That model looks like the real thing."
dave
Here's a gift from ACL Tom...new water tank for the railroad's home base at Pritchard's Junction. Thanks again Tom!
John
Looks like it been there since day one!
Great layout! Has your original track plan changed much since your original drawing?
John,
Really hasn't except for a little bit of trackage (programming track) in front of the little FSM depot. You can see the bird's eye view of that halfway down on Pg. 10 of this thread. There's very little track overall...1 passing siding, 7 turnouts overall. Eventually, when/if I replace the N scale branch with Cundy's Harbor, I'll have to cut in another turnout to reach that destination.
I just like to build scenery and run trains around and around.
Thanks for looking in (Raymo too)...John
Quote from: Cuse on July 29, 2015, 07:54:37 PM
Here's a gift from ACL Tom...new water tank for the railroad's home base at Pritchard's Junction. Thanks again Tom!
John
John,
The water tower looks right at home. Like Raymo says, it looks like it has always been there. Certainly looks better in your layout era.
Tom ;D
Hosted our local group on Sunday and had a nice time along with a good meal. Some people bring wine when they visit friends, Reading Bob brings beautifully built craftsman kits! :) Does everybody else here have a friend who shows up with a just completed Fos kit complete with a complex layout of LED lighting to see if anyone can use it?
He brought the Fatty Lou's hot dog stand in the photos. I have been working on my Bar Mills Barn and messing with the positioning of buildings on a little wharf I've been working on. Also shown is a Bar Mills Hank's Fuel that I built a few months ago. The Barn is a nice kit that I've wanted for a long time. I've still got a lot of work before it'll be done, but it's at the point I can use it to visualize scenes. I envision the barn as a small waterfront seafood business...notice the cool little oyster boat that Dave Fugere scratch built. I've got a little Seaport Modelworks crane (N scale) that I plan to build and place in the work area of the boat.
Quote from: Cuse on August 03, 2015, 08:08:36 PM
Hosted our local group on Sunday and had a nice time along with a good meal. Some people bring wine when they visit friends, Reading Bob brings beautifully built craftsman kits! :) Does everybody else here have a friend who shows up with a just completed Fos kit complete with a complex layout of LED lighting to see if anyone can use it?
Hey, if you'd prefer I can bring wine instead of structures. That's no problem. ;)
The layout is looking very sharp. There are several view points of the middle section that are simply awesome.
What Bob said.....you're doing some great work John. 8)
Thanks for having us over John. The updates you made have really made a difference from the last time we were there. Kris picked up a few ideas again that we may try in incorporate on our lay out. I think they call it plagiarism. ;D ;D I wonder what they call it in Gman's world.
Bill & Kris
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on August 04, 2015, 07:46:16 PM
Thanks for having us over John. The updates you made have really made a difference from the last time we were there. Kris picked up a few ideas again that we may try in incorporate on our lay out. I think they call it plagiarism. ;D ;D I wonder what they call it in Gman's world. Bill & Kris
It's called 'fair pickin's'!!!
The Friday afternoon checkers game always starts out friendly...
This big girl was special ordered from Colorado. The grades in Maine don't impress her, but the tight curves are new. Also, there's a little bridge that's just not going to work out.
John,
Looks great so you better get that bridge fixed.
Tom ;D
John,
I really like the recent photos, especially the last one with the view of the back of the engine. Not something you typically see, but looks wonderful. Sorry about the person in the photo. Any chance you could re shoot this one? The scenery really captures the North Woods. More photos please. We can't get enough photo's.
Frank / Erieman
I'm telling my wife you said that...she's not going to me let me play with you guys any more.
:o
John
John
I stopped by this evening to revisit your thread. I found the narrative on the layout and the pictures very inspirational. First class modeling. I hope I get to visit your layout some day.
So far today, I chopped out the offending bridge so my K-37 can make a full lap of the layout. At very slow speeds, she stalls on a couple of very tight spots in the curves, but at 20+ on the Digitrax (still slow), she rolls through. I'm examining the NNGC clinic schedule and there's one on building a Hunterline 30' King Post Truss Bridge. Sign me up! That looks like it would fit right in the same spot and look a whole lot better than the Atlas N Scale girder bridge that was in residence.
I had to back a freight train into the Enginehouse to let Big Sister go by. Also shown is the latest look at the Bar Mills Barn I'm working on. Still needs roofing (a nice variety), clutter and some weathering. I'm also going to build a minute "foundation" under it, so it will sit nicely half on the wharf and half off. Some sort of signage for a seafood distributor is in the future too. Maybe something precariously mounted on the roof.
John
John,
You and anyone here are certainly welcome to visit if you're in the Orlando, FL area. I'm very pleased with the way some of the pics represent the layout. However, the layout tour has been clocked at around a minute and a half...it's pretty small. ::)
Also, any of you notice that the beautiful new engine is a little too beautiful? I ordered it "weathered" and I'd say it's "matte-ed out" at best. First time I was ever less than staggered by Blackstone's excellence. I guess it's hard to please everybody on such a subjective thing as weathering. :o Live and learn. My preference would be beat up, faded, rusted, and filthy. When I'm in Houston, I'll definitely be looking for more offbeat detail parts to add to the engine like stray tools and toolboxes, maybe some antlers? I want it to become a real "character" some day...doesn't Malcolm Furlow live out that way...he'd be the perfect guy for the job.
John
Glad to hear you demo'ed the bridge John.....we'll have to visit and watch that big beast rumble thru the scenes. 8)
You mean the new bridge isn't built yet? DeMayo, send him some workers.
Tom ;D
Who is building the bridge? Greg or the one armed bandit? John the layout is looking fabulous. Enjoy your trip to Houston. If you get to the vendor floor, say hello to the boys from Coronado Scale Models. Remember to see Gil Freitag's layout. It will bring back memories of model Railroader magazine from years past. Have a great trip.
Frank / Erieman
My little friends from Houston arrived yesterday, along with a boxful of stuff I picked up at the NNGC. The green engine is unpowered, the Porter might as well be (so far). I honestly think static dioramas are in my future...none of my modeling frustrations come from scenery! :P
John
Hey John, You are adding more stuff all the time. Engines look cool ;D so does the layout my friend..
Thanks Bill...I must admit that my visit to the Narrow Gauge convention and, particularly, Mike Engler's clinic and Karl Allison's engine house, I'm seriously considering trashing my layout and starting over...scene by scene, diorama style - with less concern for geography, track plan, etc. I just want to do great scenes!
Just a wild hair...I hope it passes :o
John
John....maybe great minds think alike....since my space is at a premium with my new layout, I am attempting to make each scene "cluttered chaos" all with a believable scene with roads etc., to make it as real to life as I can....this scene includes 9 removable dioramas, plus some individual structures.....all with realistic roads going to the business etc.....in a space of 27"x60".....not to mention the second level yet....so I'm happy with my start on this so far....I too am not even sure if I care about locos running......I'll post some additional pics and progress on my PVTC thread....
Jeff,
I'm not looking for encouragement...I'm looking for someone to talk me down before I do something nutty!!! ;D
Good looking structures on your modules.
John
Not going to try to talk you down , but maybe it would be a good idea to do a diorama or 2 and then get back to the layout , see how you feel about it then.
Quote from: Cuse on September 12, 2015, 03:04:01 PM
Thanks Bill...I must admit that my visit to the Narrow Gauge convention and, particularly, Mike Engler's clinic and Karl Allison's engine house, I'm seriously considering trashing my layout and starting over...scene by scene, diorama style - with less concern for geography, track plan, etc. I just want to do great scenes!
Just a wild hair...I hope it passes :o
John
Whoa... John, it sounds like you have been hanging around Tom to much ;D ;D. I guess time will tell. Have fun is the main thing. See yah.
Bill
Problem solved...I am now considering my too-small layout a very very large diorama! ;)
Back to work!
John
Whew! That had me concerned. When John gets a thought that thought usually turns into action before any of us know what's going on.
Looks like there are some neat little additions to the layout. I still have to dig out the FSM Water Tank. I know approximately where it's at. I'll dig it out one of these days. ;)
Go for it John.....tear out a wall or two! ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 13, 2015, 09:40:47 AM
Whew! That had me concerned. When John gets a thought that thought usually turns into action before any of us know what's going on.
...the irony is. When I get a thought, that thought usually turns into action before I know what's going on. ;D
John
John,
May I make a suggestion re: modules vs. layout. I don't know if any of the forum members have any pictures of what Bob Van Gelder has done on his layout, but we all have seen those gorgeous models / modules that he builds upon. bob has integrated those structures / modules into his layout. Track runs around the room, occasionally going thru one one of his scenes. If he likes, he can fill in the in between areas. Just saying. It sounds like more horizontal progress than forward progress. Just keep posting all those wonderful pictures.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I know what you mean about BVG's layout (I've been there). Sellios' too. I've decided I'm just going to focus hard on whatever I'm specifically working on and follow through a bit more on each scene without regard for the rest of the layout (for that moment). I've also decided if I'm no longer pleased with any scene, I'll bulldoze without a shed tear and make it what I want it to be. Specifically, I fear I've lost my way in terms of maintaining the backwoodsy theme. I need to put the brakes on and make sure I'm honoring that theme before adding more stuff/buildings/rolling stock, etc.
All good. A little heat can purify...John
Here's a pic (probably from John S.'s thread) showing early F&SM. What I take from it is "I could never build the F&SM...but I could, just maybe, build this little part"...one step at a time!
Put the roof on the barn/seafood distributor. I used some Wild West Models shake shingles I got at the NNGC and I really like their look. I still want to put a big, sign on the roof and I found some good images online that I have shrunk to appropriate sizes. When I choose one and figure out exactly how I want to mount it - you'll be the first to see.
John
I'll consider this Seafood Distributor finished. I expect to add many castings including some cool Bar Mills lobster traps when it's properly sited, but I think that's a wrap for now.
John
Possible placement of structures on and around the smaller wharf. I'll have to consult with Bob about removing the sidewalk - I'd rather move the Hot Dog joint than damage it. I imagine lots of activity - people, lobster traps, all kinds of nautical details around.
John
John,
The small wharf area looks fantastic. Great job on the structures.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on September 26, 2015, 12:13:22 PM
Possible placement of structures on and around the smaller wharf. I'll have to consult with Bob about removing the sidewalk - I'd rather move the Hot Dog joint than damage it. I imagine lots of activity - people, lobster traps, all kinds of nautical details around.
John
It looks really good John. Very nice job on the Seafood Distributor. :D If I recall correctly the lighting subassembly I put in the structure is spot glued to the base. I'd have to slide the main roof off and look inside to refresh my memory. If so, we probably can cut the sidewalk off at the point where it meets the wall and then touch up the foundation where it's been cut. I have a jeweler's saw that may be perfect for getting in their and getting a straight cut. It's be tough to do with an X-Acto or razor blade due to the over hang. It would need new, longer support posts as well. Let me know if you want me to perform surgery on it. :D
John, the seafood dealer turned out great. Great idea for the barn.
Great scene John..... 8)
The structures look great together.
Jeff
Quote from: Cuse on September 26, 2015, 12:13:22 PM
Possible placement of structures on and around the smaller wharf. I'll have to consult with Bob about removing the sidewalk - I'd rather move the Hot Dog joint than damage it. I imagine lots of activity - people, lobster traps, all kinds of nautical details around.
John
Nice. If you're modeling Wiscasset you really need a Red's Eats. It's just up the street from the river.
Thanks guys. The only things I stole are the name and bits of the trestles ;D Cool little place, though.
Bob, any help on that would be appreciated. I'm still traumatized by the surgery I did on the heirloom FSM depot. I feel like I dodged a bullet with that one.
John
I tried to fight it, but...I couldn't. I had to order Doug's new kit. So now, I have Execution Rocks, Printers Row, and Bar Mills' Cundy Harbor on the shelf. It honestly may be years, but there will be a major re-work of my layout (if not a complete re-do). I'm happy with my layout's progress and it's look and the progress I've made in my own capabilities, but...we have an expression in my family: "Gotta Do".
I think if you connected Doug Foscale's dioramas for Execution Rocks, Oyster Hill, and Printers Row(the new one)...you'd have my favorite layout ever. I think his landscaping, waterfront scenery, use of levels and roads, and, of course, his structure modeling and weathering is absolutely captivating. They all have so much character and personality. That's what's on my mind. As far as tracks, that will absolutely be secondary.
I'm not in any hurry to jump in, but I'm basically looking at anything else I do as "practice", until I re-work the layout.
Here's what I've been up to. Fallberg station by Downtown Deco. My first Hydrocal kit...lotta fun. Still have a lot to do.
This morning, I cleaned the wheels of my locos and cleaned all of the track to rule out a few reasons why my newest acquisition is struggling. It showed progress so, feeling frisky, I removed the contacts on the bottom, scraped them a bit, and bent them to provide a little more friction against the wheels. I did all of this with the idea that, if I see progress, it would at least give me some insights as to what needs to be addressed. It did run quite a bit better, but still a C+.
Here are some pics...
John,
The rock work on Fallberg looks great. Happy to hear the little tea kettle is running better.
Tom ;D
Thanks Tom. I really enjoy the Downtown Deco castings.
Here's some sunset photos on the Wiscasset waterfront. Special effects provided by real sunset outside the window.
John
Neat pictures.
Jeff
Nice work on the Fallburg Station John. Ya gotta love that "little" steamer! 8)
Great John especially nice job on the piers.
Thanks for checking in guys...John
Rash is such an ugly word. I prefer "man of action" and "decisive" ;)
This land grab signals the end of my n scale forced perspective experiment. I now have a handful of n scale built up craftsman kits for sale and a couple of nice boats and bunches of vehicles, etc. If you know anyone, let me know. Sorry Jan, you're on your own brother.
John
The end of an era, I didn't think it would happen! Congratulations on the land grab. Jan will be okay as well. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
I'm looking forward to seeing what that corner morph's into John! ;D
More real estate for structures......way to go John! 8) 8) 8)
"If you're going to eat a frog, don't look at that sucker for too long" :o ...instant demolition
Also, new resident courtesy of Tom. I am helping him out since he doesn't have room to store it...he owes me for this. :)
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 06, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
This land grab signals the end of my n scale forced perspective experiment. I now have a handful of n scale built up craftsman kits for sale and a couple of nice boats and bunches of vehicles, etc. If you know anyone, let me know. Sorry Jan, you're on your own brother.
John
Sad to hear this John .
Do you have a list of the boats and vehicles and maybe you also still have some unbuilt structures? The built structures are great but would be a shipping problem.
Jan,
I'll do a little inventory and, if there's some interest, we can definitely work out a tremendous "Forum Discount" with the understanding that someday, when I come that way, you'll be my guide to Ontrax (did I get that right?)
John
Good carpentry day today...new corner framed in. Much of the styrofoam will be cut away to reveal the bay. When track is decided on, I'll put down homasote in the areas around and under the track. That may be a while as I am very much undecided how best to lay out the area which will feature Fos' Printers Row and Bar Mills Cundy Harbor up front. I may even wait until well into next year, so I can really study Doug's display (and hopefully Bar Mills' too) at the Expo to help me figure out how to lay it all out. I'll probably fiddle with it a bit more and then go back to other projects on the layout.
John
John
Great to see new benchwork and layout expansion - I enjoy the design work as much as the building.
John - You might want to check with Artie to see if he has a schematic for the foot print of Cundy Harbor. He was able to send me one foe Cundy Village. Jim
Great idea Jim. I actually cut out some cardboard for the rough dimensions of Printers Row and was pondering asking Doug for ANYthing he has...drawings, sketches, etc to play with. I've copied and cut up Bar Mills directions in the past to make full size mockups.
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 08, 2015, 08:36:49 AM
Jan,
I'll do a little inventory and, if there's some interest, we can definitely work out a tremendous "Forum Discount" with the understanding that someday, when I come that way, you'll be my guide to Ontrax (did I get that right?)
John
Seems like a very good idea John.
Jan,
I've been a little sidetracked. I'm thinking I'll hold onto my little collection of N scale finery. I've got a nice fish tank in the living room that I'm sick of cleaning. When the lone inhabitant goes to the great toilet in the sky. I may just insert a little diorama.
Also, who can spot what's missing?
John
Wallpaper ;) ;) ;)
Holy crap.....where did your layout go John..... :o
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 26, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
Holy crap.....where did your layout go John..... :o
What he said! :o Times two!! :o :o
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 26, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 26, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
Holy crap.....where did your layout go John..... :o
What he said! :o Times two!! :o :o
Hey Bob.....l'll see your two and raise you one! :D ;D ;D
On this day, I'm thankful that I have the ability to rip down a perfectly great layout and start over because I think I can do better!
More to come soon. Building salvage has been a complete success...one to go!
John
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 26, 2015, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 26, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 26, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
Holy crap.....where did your layout go John..... :o
What he said! :o Times two!! :o :o
Hey Bob.....l'll see your two and raise you one! :D ;D ;D
What they said and one more.
WOWSER!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on November 26, 2015, 12:22:59 PM
On this day, I'm thankful that I have the ability to rip down a perfectly great layout and start over because I think I can do better!
More to come soon. Building salvage has been a complete success...one to go!
John
John,
I want to apologize for the sickness I seemed to have passed on to you. You have been around to many of my layout redos. For that I'm sorry.
However, on the good side, you'll be much happier when you find the right look and for that I'm not sorry!
Tom ;D
WOW, very drastic John , good luck, I'm sure you made the right decision.
A couple more layout pics...one where I'm doing the Moses thing!
Clean slate. More to come soon.
John
I'm in shock! A complete and total redo/rebuild.
Now we are all waiting for the new idea to appear.
Tom ??? , still in shock.
Here you are demolishing and starting yet ANOTHER layout and I haven't even begun my first.
I have got to stand MUCH closer to you guys....and hope some of the mo-jo rubs off!!!!
Now that the room is bare and you won't damage the layout.....it's time to knock out some walls and expand! ;D
The shape of things to come... 8)
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 28, 2015, 04:04:29 PM
The shape of things to come... 8)
John
HHMMMM? Inquiring minds and all that.
Tom ;D
???
Color me intrigued. :D
Doing a little "imagineering" to help figure out the plan to come.
John
This is a real surprise. There must be something in the drinking water in Florida. Is this a wall railroad only or are you going to stack them one top of each other and make a three tier layout? Certainly a lot more room that way. Inquiring minds want to know. Only kidding John. We all know that whatever you do, it will awesome. We just want to kid you a bit. Good luck with the new plan and keep us informed with a lot of pictures.
Frank / Erieman
John
What happened! You really are going in a different direction. I do understand - it has been seven years since I did pretty much the same thing. Only I covered the old layout with plaster. Very interested to see where you are headed.
This is going to be interesting, Can't wait to see where it goes.
8)
Let there be light!
John
Cool
John,
Are you staying with the HOn3?
Tom ;D
Definitely staying with HOn3, just a change of atmosphere. Here's today's work...I worked late last night, spent the good part of today with the SBG visiting the Cutlers' beautiful Pennsy layout, so now it's time to put it all aside and go pick up some Sushi takeout to maintain the home front.
John
I like what I see so far John, will the layout be much smaller then before?
John,
I believe the shadow box affect will be a fantastic new look for the railroad. Great job on this. ;D ;D ;D
I also enjoyed our Butty meet this morning. Great friends.
Tom ;D
It seems to be growing.
8)
What you see are 2 2 x 4 foot modules connected. There will be tracks departing from both ends. Eventually, I'll have staging or just hidden loops behind the boxes. I will add modules over time and the ultimate shape is still to be determined. I've got two kids in college and would like to downsize our home. This may be in 2 years or 10 years. I just always wanted to build this type of layout and felt like "why not now?". This project could be moved, altered or expanded to fit whatever space becomes available. I was very happy with my recent layout but once my mind gets excited about a new project - it's not going away :) . I was troubled by continuing to pour time, effort, and money into something that (a) wasn't exactly what I want and (b) wouldn't be coming with me when the time comes.
I'm really excited to pour a lot of energy into a small space and see what I can do with it...before growing it. My mind is still bursting with design ideas. I've got a few things I definitely want to incorporate and I'm prioritizing and arranging them as I build the "skeleton". My friend, the graphic artist, is working on a photo backdrop right now, so I'd probably be wise to wait for that before progressing beyond the brainstorming phase.
Thanks for checking in.
John
Very cool idea - especially with a pending move. I will be watching your progress.
It looks like the beginning of a very interesting journey John.....I'm looking forward to see where you go with this. 8)
John,
Good Morning from Arizona. While I don't like to see someone take apart a beautiful layout ( too many tears), Some of us, who will remain nameless, face the chainsaw massacre sometime in the future. Having gone thru one of those many years ago, I can say that it was not a pleasurable moment. I do like the concept of what you are trying to achieve. The modular layout will allow growth, possible alternative configurations and could be used anywhere in the house (wife permitting) The only thing that I don't like is the reinforcement between the modules. It sticks into the scene and an alternative technique should be developed to allow you the visual freedom of your beautiful work. There were several articles some years back in one of the RR publications on modules and I may have it in my library. I'll check and see if I can find it. There may have been a better solution. I really like the idea , the fact that it is portable. It opens a whole new venue for beautiful scenery. Best of luck with it and I look forward to seeing your progress.
Frank / Erieman
The intrusions are necessary to provide the degree of stiffness (and light weight) I want to be able to carry the modules out to the garage for messy work or just to place them on a lower worktable. They won't be nearly as disconcerting once the facia is installed (same size top and bottom). As for the visible bump in the rear, I'm comfortable that a combination of taller buildings, possible landforms, and the photo backdrop will minimize the negative. All of the display layouts at the Suncoast center have similar concerns and they tend to disappear after a few moments. I'm not worried about them.
John
John,
I found the articles that I mentioned earlier. There were two articles in MR in January and February of 1977 on bookshelf railroads. The articles show construction, different configurations. They are very detailed. I will scan then and email them to you. I think you will find them very helpful. I got you email address from Tom this morning.
Frank / Erieman
Hey John, really looks good!! I like that look you have going. We will be following closely as the new venture proceeds.
Bill
Moving along. Roughed in the coastline shapes. Next step is to cut out the homasote layer above the foam. I hope to hear from my friend about the photo backdrops soon - John Addison shared some wisdom with me at the Suncoast Center, "It's a heck of a lot easier to match your scenery to your backdrop than the other way around". Wisdom is usually pretty obvious - but you don't necessarily think of it at the right time ;D I've got a variety of mockups (paper, walls from the kits, etc) to help me space things out. I also placed it where I expect it to stay in the room. There is room behind it to do a complete loop with a couple of staging tracks. On the right end, I can eventually do a "turnaround" module and still have a foot and a half to slide around in front of it...I will have to lose a couple pounds and keep it off for that project (down the road anyway).
I have a question...would a pile driver barge possibly be moored to some pilings away from the shoreline? It would seem like a safe way to stow the unit between workdays and transporting it would involve a tug of some sort anyway so shore access wouldn't be an issue. I think mooring it (just) offshore would allow an odd angle to visually contrast the fairly perpendicular docks and retaining walls to come. Just thinking that a handful of pilings would make sense as a "parking spot".
John
John,
Looks like you are making great progress on the modules.
In answer to your pile driver question, YES, anything is possible. I once saw a pile driver on the St. Johns River miles from any salt water.
Tom ;D
John
Looking good! It sounds like George Sellios is doing a similar thing with the new section of F&SM. He describes it as shadow boxes. I hope we get to go see it together in March.
The shadowbox is a cool concept. I'll be interested to see how you hide the stiffeners.
Jeff
I love the concept of the shadow box. No lights shining in your face; a focused view of the layout and an easy way to keep the layout clean when not in use.
This morning I trimmed some homasote scraps to the approximate landforms and placed them back on the modules to help visualize the design. On the left (hotel) end, I'll have a nice low trestle over some tidal flats, lots of trees on a low hill along the anticipated photo backdrop and "hugging" Martin Machine. In front of the hotel, I plan to elevate the little lighthouse up on a stone pedestal and surround it with rip rap and some little fishing shacks on stilts with some precarious walkways and staircases made of weathered strip wood. I'm not sure how I'll handle the little station, but if I leave it there, I'll put it at least partially on pilings and rip rap. I hope to fool around with seaweed and tidelines around this area.
On the right (wharf) end, the wooden wall is/will be Fos' Executioners Rocks main building, which I would like to elevate dramatically. The two paper buildings will be from Bar Mills Cundy Harbor. The beautiful Red Hook 2 warehouse, will likely be saved for another module, as I think Fos' Printers Row would make a more appropriate row of background structures on a slight elevation. Check back tomorrow, when I'll likely change the whole thing around. ;D
John
There are some great mini scenes to be had in those John. I like what you are doing.
John,
This is really looking very good. Perhaps when you get to the back drop, you can blend in the braces by using some of the colors in the back ground.
Again, looking really good. Of course there is still tomorrow to come. ??? ???
Tom ;D
Hi John
I'm watching your progress - I really like the way your using visualization aids to help with your design. I think it's a good idea to wait until you have your backdrops before you finalize anything. I think it's very important to use size to create depth in the scenes.
Wow John! Things are moving right along and looking terrific. You and Tom make me feel like a real slacker. At least when I compare the progress I'm making to what Tom's doing I can justify my snails pace by telling myself I'm still working and he's retired. I can't do that when I compare my progress to the progress you're making! :o
I have that little water tank set aside for you and, if you haven't seen it yet, the DVD from BEST on building vehicles that features none other then the forums master truck builder Mr. Raymo. Just give me a holler when you want them.
Thanks guys. Benchwork is fun because you can really make a jump quickly. Today, I actually ran a train - before you congratulate me, remember it's just a small stretch of track through two modules. My wife's brother is coming into town this week and I wanted to at least blow the whistle a bit. I was a bit disappointed by my Blackstone loco's performance through the Peco crossing...hopefully, another set of feeders on the other side will help. In the meantime, I will follow ACL Tom's example..."The Judge will be blamed for everything until he joins the forum."
A box arrived from Mr. Foscale today also...Printers Row...another masterpiece to put on my shelf for a bit before I steel myself to jump in (maybe Reading Bob will be free for a bit of help ::) ).
John
Quote from: Cuse on December 27, 2015, 08:22:18 PM
Thanks guys. Benchwork is fun because you can really make a jump quickly. Today, I actually ran a train - before you congratulate me, remember it's just a small stretch of track through two modules. My wife's brother is coming into town this week and I wanted to at least blow the whistle a bit. I was a bit disappointed by my Blackstone loco's performance through the Peco crossing...hopefully, another set of feeders on the other side will help. In the meantime, I will follow ACL Tom's example..."The Judge will be blamed for everything until he joins the forum."
A box arrived from Mr. Foscale today also...Printers Row...another masterpiece to put on my shelf for a bit before I steel myself to jump in (maybe Reading Bob will be free for a bit of help ::) ).
John
It could happen John but first I need to get through The Red Light District which I just started (I'll do a thread once I get far enough along that I have something to show). ;)
John,
Your new layout concept is coming together very nicely. I was thinking that your new layout and mine have one huge thing in common other than being new to us in concept.
My second level will actually be a shadow box as well. When the third level is up and the lights are installed for the second level, I'll have a shadow box effect for the second level. Now I'm getting excited for us both.
Fantastic start my friend.
Tom ;D
Always great to have a train running. ;D
Jeff
Here's what I'm working on now...test fit temporary photo backdrops. My buddy printed on heavy photo paper (which seems sufficient), but he wants me to note any changes or sizing ideas and he'll reprint on a "vinyl" which he feels will make a more permanent product. Pretty interesting sitting next to a pro and watching him work...feathering clouds, etc..."you want anymore evergreens over here?".
Just masking tape for now...eventually seamless and perfectly flat.
John
The backdrops are beautiful.....I think that the scale of the trees are spot on the right scale for the buildings in front of them.
John, this is really coming together nicely. That inside brace is still troubling me though. I know you probably have your own reasons why it has to be inside, but if it were me I would have put it on the outside, it still would be just as strong. But then you couldn't put anything on top of it.
8)
Great backdrop John , blends beautifully .
Just one word John. "Wow"
Looks good John.....northern SBG day to see it in person. 8)
John,
The backdrops look wonderful. Really changes the look doesn't it?
Tom ;D
Thanks for the positive feedback. As far as the supports...I made the decision to have them inside the "box" to gain the additional 4' of scenic depth. As described earlier, the layout is designed to be moved, so each box must be self supporting and fit through doors, relatively lightweight, etc. All of that factored into the obvious compromise. Having said that, I'm looking at them and thinking a strip of simple photo backdrop on each side would probably do a lot to make them disappear further (although they really don't bother me - human vision/perception adapts to whatever you're focusing on or not - like when someone asks if you know where there is a Shell station, for example, and you shrug and later realize you drive by a dozen every day - because now you're looking).
Would love to have an SBG North meet soon...Next project is likely the hidden track and staging behind the layout...shouldn't take long once my box of flex track arrives from Caboose Hobbies. Hopefully, I won't run a Blackstone engine off of the end of the world before then.
Just installed the Ultraboard Facing.
John
John, I figured you had a good reason and that I probably shouldn't have brought it up. The idea of wrapping the backdrop around it should really make it disappear. again great work!
8)
John those backdrops look fantastic.
I'll add another "WOW". :)
Jeff
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on January 24, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
I'll add another "WOW". :)
Jeff
And one more for good measure.....WOW! ;D
OWO!!! No matter how you write it ..... it's GREAT!!!
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John, Wonderful execution. Can't wait to see more. Sorry to see the old layout go, but this looks even better. keep up the great work and more pics please.
Frank / Erieman
John,
You always point the finger at me for fast work but you are right there Butty! Great job on the new layout.
Tom ;D
Oh yes, another WOW for the backdrop.
Great concept and execution John
Thank you for the support, friends. In a flurry of activity Sunday night, I built the benchwork for the hidden staging area as well as a shelf below so I can someday stack all of my unbuilt kits somewhere. On Monday night, UPS showed up with my package from Caboose Hobbies, but the end was missing from the cylinder and none of the flex track or rail joiners were inside...Frustrating. Obviously, I refused delivery, contacted Caboose Hobbies, and, etc...bottom line, I laid the track I had on hand, but now I must wait to complete the area. The most important part of the little addition is the ability to have a continuous run. I could never have a layout without at least a small loop as I prefer to just let 'em chuff around while I do other things. Eventually, I'll build an end module to replace the loop at the end.
John
WOW John. Kris & I love the look.
Bill
Great John , your layout looks a lot like the show layouts from the UK and rest of Europe.
Thanks Guys.
Jan, that's no accident. :)
John
I couldn't wait any longer for Caboose Hobbies to re-ship my order. In the spirit of small, narrow-gauge operations, I cobbled together what scraps I had and finished the main loop of track. There was a bit of pushback from the HO scale engineers and brakemen, but I was able to get the union's ok with the addition of the styrene guardrails. Their negotiators cited the Lionel Railroad vs. Gomez Adams case as precedent, but they wore down with the understanding that no revenue could quickly turn into no HO scale jobs. I'm not here to make friends, I've got a railroad to run. ;)
Next on the agenda...some family and/or fitness time. I'll make it back to the trains sometime today.
John
John.............
Gomez Adams................ too funny ! ! ! ! !
Thanx
Bob
Quote from: Cuse on January 30, 2016, 01:18:42 PM
I couldn't wait any longer for Caboose Hobbies to re-ship my order. In the spirit of small, narrow-gauge operations, I cobbled together what scraps I had and finished the main loop of track. There was a bit of pushback from the HO scale engineers and brakemen, but I was able to get the union's ok with the addition of the styrene guardrails. Their negotiators cited the Lionel Railroad vs. Gomez Adams case as precedent, but they wore down with the understanding that no revenue could quickly turn into no HO scale jobs. I'm not here to make friends, I've got a railroad to run. ;)
Next on the agenda...some family and/or fitness time. I'll make it back to the trains sometime today.
John
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Two months since I've done anything worth posting >:( My EXPO prep led me to the layout...I built up an elevated support for the lighthouse that will eventually be connected via precarious wooden decks and stairways to some little fishing shacks on stilts among a rocky coastline. The "Iron Altar" is just some weights holding it in place while the glue sets. I also performed the violent act of cutting in a spot for Martin Machine, which was built on heavy plywood - a little dust, but no drama. My plan is to build a hill around it to match it's multi-level design.
John
John,
Looking good and the lighthouse area will be a wonderful eye catcher.
Tom ;D
Pretty cool John. 8) I miss the old layout :'( but it's exciting to see all the neat stuff you're coming up with to take it's place.
See 'ya up in Bawstin! :D
I finally built something ;D I believe it's the fishing shack from Nick & Nora that I picked up from the Expo. I've got a few small kits that I hope to assemble into a little waterfront mess inspired by Don Railton's magnificent "Nolan Cove" diorama. This is step one of a zillion, but it's something. I used Bar Mills shingles for the siding. I've got a few castings to paint and then some weathering to finish it off. Eventually, it will reside on some pilings with some wooden walkways between structures, land, lighthouse, and dock.
After examining this photo, I took some obvious shortcuts that I don't really notice with my eyes alone. I better go tune it up. The strip wood railing is too heavy, the side of the aluminum roofing needs color, the pinhead doorknob is enormous...yikes. :P I think the oversized finial will be ok as I will be adding some ornate nautical decorations that the old sea captain who lives here has accumulated. When the scene gets a little busier and additional roof details, like a stovepipe, are added, I expect the finial's size to be downplayed a bit. Just glad to be in motion again.
John
Looks good John. Forward motion is always a good thing. ;D
Re the fish shack I find photos are the best way to find the bits that don't work, they just glare at you although they don't seem apparent to the naked eye. I think a form of selective blindness happens when we think a model is finished.
Got a little train time in today...I'm moving things around in my "Railton Cove" area to see how I should make it work. Many of you are familiar with Don Railton's Nolan Cove diorama. I would like to do a small scene of fishing shacks on stilts connected by rickety wooden walkways and stairs. Don's diorama is one of the best things I've ever seen. I imagine I'll construct a deck and connecting walkway from the lighthouse down to the shacks and possibly even a wooden walkway to the station, which will be partially supported by a planked wooden deck that melds into the trestle. Beneath it all...rocks, rip rap, junk, seaweed and saltwater.
John
Looking good John.....thanks for having us up so we could see it up close. it looks even better in person. 8)
Looking good John.
Jim
John,
Great job on the dioramas. I love the Don Railton Brian Nolan Cove diorama. It is truly a classic. Yours will look just as impressive. Keep up the great work.
Tom ;D
Neat little structures John , lots of character.
I did just enough to justify a bump ;)
Just sort of winging it as I throw together "Railton's Cove"...whatever's in the scrapbox, on the workbench, or on top of the last layout's salvage pile is a possibility. I've got a bunch of Micro Engineering Bridge Ties soaking in Hunterline stain. I plan to string together a web of multi-level walkways and stairs to connect the structures in this little scene.
Hope you approve...John
Looks good John. Waiting for the walkways.
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on June 18, 2016, 02:16:05 PM
Looks good John. Waiting for the walkways.
Jim
Agree John.....but can you slow down a bit till my new walking shoes arrive from L.L. Bean????
Did some productive carpentry on the little "Railton's Cove" area on my layout. It's still rough as I plan to add a tideline, more railings and walkways, some seaweed and litter, not to mention the scenery behind and in front of the rip rap banks and the structures above. I'm pretty pleased so far although it's kind of a challenge to photograph it effectively. Looks better in person...in my humble opinion.
John
Hmmmmm....sideways photos. Can't say I've seen that before...weren't sideways when I attached them. :o Fixed it, but not sure what happened.
John
Looks very nice John, and has the feel already of DownEast Maine ... Can I ask what you used for the rip rap banks ??
Thanks much,
--Paul
Thanks Paul...It's just Woodland Scenics "Talus" a mix of their Coarse and Medium. Doug Foscale does a really nice tutorial on his Waterfront Scenery video. The next stages include painting a consistent muck line and then using powders just above to create a seaweed/algae effect as well. The DVD is excellent and shows real-life examples to help with the perspective. It's pretty monotonous work (especially when combined with the plank by plank walkways above, but I'm excited what it should look like once I "dull it down and mess it up" a bit. Thanks for looking in.
John
Butty John,
Very nicely done. The tide line and waves will really bring it to life. Excellent job.
Tom ;D
Thanks for the info John, I will have to check out that video at some point ... Looking forward to see your progress as this area develops ..
Thanks again,
--Paul
Great scenes John, you're doing fine even in the wrong scale ;)
Hi John:
Looks great. I really like the lighthouse.
Karl
Hi John,
It looks wonderful so far. The additional detailing you're talking about adding is really going to make it come alive. I can't wait to see it in person. 8)
Really looks good John.
Jim
Hi,
looking very nice. Great work.
Regards,Chris
Looking good John. 8)
Maine definitely inspired me. Who can guess what's next? ::)
Nn3 ?
Jim
Quote from: Cuse on September 11, 2016, 06:48:30 PM
Maine definitely inspired me. Who can guess what's next? ::)
Uhhhhh...... no. But it'll probably be something major. :o
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 12, 2016, 07:32:48 AM
Quote from: Cuse on September 11, 2016, 06:48:30 PM
Maine definitely inspired me. Who can guess what's next? ::)
Uhhhhh...... no. But it'll probably be something major. :o
This is going to be interesting!
Perhaps another layout redo?
We have a winner...kind of...switching back to HOn30. Dave Frary's endorsement of the running quality of the little minitrains sets pushed me back where I wanted to be. Visiting the WW&F 1:1 scale display helped too. Track is ordered, engines here.
BTW, anyone in the market for a perfectly good Digitrax system?
-DB150 base unit plus two wireless handheld throttles (a DTR400R and a UT40)
i'm going old school
John
Peco HOn30 track is painted, dry brushed, spiked down and wired up. Trains are again running.
John
John,
Great news in trains running. The track looks good.
Tom ;D
Did some landscaping in the corner in front of the Hotel. I still plan to add a layer of static grass and a bunch of details, vehicles, etc. I think I'll add a little more visible support for the little concession stand that looks a little precarious despite the boulder it rests upon and the single piling lost in the shadows. I've also got metal railing to match the curve of the lighthouse "pedestal". I'll try to remember to hold the camera a little more level - sorry for any seasickness.
I came real close to cracking open Fos' Printers Row, but decided to landscape instead. Soon...all of these build threads have me inspired.
My next burst of landscaping may come as soon as tomorrow. We'll see what the family comes up with for me in the meantime. :)
John
John,
The new scenery looks fantastic. Scenery really gives us a sense of something actually being accomplished.
Looking good.
Tom ;D
looking good John, were you on a boat while taking the photo's ;)
John
Your making great progress it looks fantastic. Also, good to here that trains are again running.
Got some more scenery down. Ballast and glue is still wet so some color may lighten up a bit. I also got my walk around throttle from GML installed. Still need to get the tideline consistent, add some seaweed in the rocks, railings, etc, etc...but the ground cover on this module is essentially done. Always room for details, but it's nice to step back and see.
John
a few more...
John,
The new scenery looks really good. I love how to tied the landscape to the inlets area.
Tom ;D
John
Very nice! Love it!
John:
The layout looks great. :) 8)
Stay cool and run steam.......... 8) 8)
John,
That is some great looking Scenery
Very nice ,indeed
Jim
Great work John..... 8)
Great looking scenery.
Jeff
Thanks all. I'm really happy with the recent burst. Hope I can keep it going amid life's other claims on my time :)
John
You are doing a great job of capturing that fall/winter look. It reminds me of Mike Confalone's layout.
Thanks Bobby...that's as good as it gets :) I think Mike Confalone does some of the best modeling I've seen.
John
Hi John:
Your layout is absolutely gorgeous. Keep those fine photos coming for us.
Thanks:
Karl
Thanks Karl...means a lot coming from you. The Fos warehouse you built is safely hidden from the cats and will be featured prominently on a module to come :)
John
I painted the water surface with a combo of black, green, and a little blue last week. I followed that up with two coats of Mod Podge...it dried almost white with bubbles. While Mike the Runner attempts to solve the mystery, I have forged ahead...I took a couple of brushfuls of black and sort of dry brushed the surface, i followed that with a little green to lighten it a bit. The mod podge beneath gives it a bit of surface motion and I never intended to model breaking waves in this little cove. I'm thinking I'll just seal it with some furniture varnish for some good luster after the paint is dry. You can see the bubbly effect around the rocks and pilings - I think it looks kind of cool, just not when it was everywhere-yet another lucky accident in my scenery history :D
John
John,
I think the water looks great. On purpose or not, the water motion appearance around the rocks looks natural to me.
Tom ;D
Looks great John..... 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 03, 2016, 08:32:39 AM
John,
I think the water looks great. On purpose or not, the water motion appearance around the rocks looks natural to me.
Tom ;D
What Tom said. It does look great.
Jim
Turkey day update. I have added a couple more coats of Mod Podge because I felt my ocean was too flat. I also decided to hold off on the Varnish until I finished all of the water surface on the adjacent module. This means I must complete all of the waterfront "borders" (seawalls, pilings, docks, concrete foundations, etc). Reading Bob's progress on the Bar Mills Dockhouse convinced me this is the way to go. I figure the best way to ensure that the water is consistent across adjacent modules is to seal it all at once. This also means I need to get Capt. Hook's Lobster built as it is an integral part of the waterfront next door.
The little building in the very foreground is slotted for a makeover. When I saw Troels Kirk's recent posts, I immediately thought of the structure shown. I plan to weather mine with a little more color, add some more support pilings, maybe some signage, and resurface the roof (or at least complicate it with some repairs-still debating). As always, Troels' work inspires me to do better.
John
Only train-related gift I got was this little gem. It's a built-up Junkman's truck from Model Tech Studios...
John
John
Your working to hard - it's been a couple months since we have seen an update. Just sayin.
Glad to see you back at it John. ;D
I don't know what you guys are talking about. But thanks for the interest ;)
Progress coming soon...from Reading Bob's workbench.
John
Bad news...perhaps as soon as this weekend, I will begin dismantling the layout. We are downsizing our primary home and renovating our coastal home. All within the same couple of months.
Good news...It was built to be dismantled and relocated to a bigger, better spot.
I'm hoping to start early and really pack everything with great care. That's why I want to get started well in advance of the pre-move/last minute mayhem. I also expect to make some decisions about what I need to keep or not. Anyone need a Digitrax system with a couple of wireless throttles?
John
Good luck with the layout.
Moving again John.....I was just getting used to finding the new place. ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 18, 2017, 02:19:43 PM
Moving again John.....I was just getting used to finding the new place. ;D
John,
I think you've now out done me on the do's and redo's!
Tom ;D
Good luck on the move, hope all goes smoothly.
Alright, back in action...I took possession of my new layout room and spent a little time figuring out how I wanted to go with the trains. I very much love the shadowbox modules I've begun for the controlled lighting and viewing and the "finite" sense of the project...In other words, detailing and completing the smaller area is a lot less daunting than staring at a whole undone layout with so many other time pressures in my happy life.
I built a simple 4x12 foot L-girder platform that I will build upon, incorporating the two existing "boxes" which were built for this move. However, I'm not moving again for the foreseeable future as this is our completely renovated, built to order, waterfront dream home that we plan to someday retire to. I will build the layout upon this framework with similar shadowbox features without necessarily going module by module. Many happy years of modeling ahead...
Glad to see you back at it John! I have the rest of Cundy Harbor in my garage whenever you're ready for them. No rush though. I know you have lot's of things going on. ;)
Good to see you back in the train room John, I do believe that room would fit perfectly for Normal Scale though ;) ;) ;)
John,
Welcome back to the fold.
Tom ;D
John
Welcome back! It's great to see you getting started in your new train room. I will be following along to see where it takes you.
Hi John Welcome back to the living. A question for you. I am thinking about scratch building the siding in Pelham where your family had its operations. Do you recall the types of building? I seem to remember some open sheds. I'm also going to try looking up the rail/real estate maps for info. Thanks Jim and have a great summer
Welcome back John. Blistering weather in Florida already.
Ed from Lithia, Fl.
Thanks guys. I just picked up some beautiful builds that Reading Bob did for me...that has certainly got me even more fired up to get back in gear.
Jim. My brother Ed still runs the tree company out of those structures. They are very sturdy concrete garages that (when I was very little) still had enormous coal bunkers atop them. Now it's just a simple concrete 3 bay garage and another concrete building across the "yard". I doubt that second building ever had any railroad-related activity. Not very "railroady" any more. If I make it up to Pelham in August, I'll skim through my Mom's many photo albums (dating back to volume 1"Army"- my dad's time in WWII) and see what I can find. I do remember seeing some pics of the demolition of the coal bunkers (probably mid to late 70's).
John
Thanks John It would be great if you can find anything Sometime we will have to get together and share stories, such as when a friend and I hid from your father after throwing firecrackers on E esplanade Jim
Not a bad morning. All lighting attached to new framing. All new L-girder support system. Also, inventoried all boxes of train stuff...still missing all my big Fos kits...that is a valuable box and it's still at large :o
Anyway, very happy with all of the infrastructure I finished. This must be what ACL Tom feels like every day.
what's with the #@*& sideways pictures. I've been posting pics here for a century, using the same computers, etc
I'm out...can't imagine finding time to fix >:(
John
Yes, and it feels great. Everyday being a Saturday is a good thing when building an empire. ;D
Tom 8)
Had a good morning. Finished up the upper facia, fixed a lighting issue, painted some flex track, did some more lighting adjustments, made some decisions about the back side of the layout plan. Here's where we're at...
Notice the blackout cordless blinds under the layout...seemed like a good way to conceal storage while still having easy access. The upper and (not there yet) lower facia will be flat black, so I think the blinds will add to the "pedestal" effect and prevent eyes from being drawn away from the modeling. I'm pleased with that decision.
John
John,
Great to see progress on the layout. The blinds are a great idea to hide stuff.
Looking really good Butty!
Tom ;D
Looking very good John.
John,
Off to a good start, Now I know what you meant by "In no hurry". Still progress has been made.....
I have another build in progress.......keep an eye on it......
Loren...
Making progress is good! I like the blinds as well.
Jeff
I like the blinds, keep upon the progress John
Jim
Wow, Love this RR! Nice looking layout with some great structures.
Alright...other than the killer storm bearing down us, things are going great at the "layout house" on the coast. Trains are running full loops for the first time today! still haven't wired up the sidings (I'm DC- so block control) but life is good and scenery is coming. ;D
John
John,
I see the old Brewery up on the hill, and little old carters in there....Looking real good......Good luck with the Storm...
Loren...
Good eye, Loren, and thanks. I guess I really need to organize my next steps...I have a bad habit of impulse building and skipping steps which leads to back pedaling later. Still firming up my vision for scenic plans. Next...
-gotta get with my backdrop guy soon. I don't want to get too far without that or it'll be 2x tougher
I'm still not certain how I'll handle the end. Probably just elevate the scenery/trees/Dead Horse
Bay to minimize the end of the backdrop. The plan is high rocky elevation ala Foscale.
-insert ties into track joint areas and paint turnouts...good time to dry brush ties & scrub all the rail
-wire up switchable siding blocks (off/on toggles)
-plan and install lower facia (with front contours) and install block toggles and throttle panel
-plan interior lighting "drops" (handful of buildings)
-start on foam landforms for foregrounds and coastline
2 kits to build- SW woodcutter's and Seaport Capt Hook Lobster (have reserved spots -along with Fos'
Dead Horse Bay, which has some premium Oceanfront real estate reserved)
Just thinking out loud...John
Looks great John. Great progress, and I really am liking the cordless shade idea. I may have to give that a try. Did you pick them up a the local Big Box store?
thanks...I ordered them online. We did them all over our home and I found them to be a little less expensive online...plus, Box stores only had a couple of colors. Endless options online. I'm really happy with them (in the windows too). No cords, they hold their position, etc.
John
Actually got some quality work in this weekend. Not picture-worthy but maybe "bump-worthy" ;D
I finished the lower fascia cutting and securing...and all the dusty loud "layout-tuning" that goes with it. One large step closer to doing some scenery work! I've really got to get with the backdrop guy before I go much further
John
Little bit of terrain shaping and a whole lot of thinking today...Don't want to get too far ahead of the backdrop guy!
John
John,
Looking good, that one outside spur is going to be a hell of a surprise for some engineer...
Loren...
John
Great to see you back at the modeling. All that thinking and planning is going to pay off in the end product.
Loren, you're right. Not sure what I'm going to do with that...I just wanted some sort of foreground trestle for scenic value. Maybe just a stubbed out deck next to a small structure. That steep downgrade will mostly be covered with downed lumber, stumps, trees, maybe some trash, etc...still thinking. ::)
John
John,
Looking good. I like the idea of the foreground track for some negative scenery options. It will look great.
Tom ;D
Over at the layout house with the new addition to the job list (Thanks Vilius-it's beautiful!). Just taking a few minutes to mockup and visualize placement...Man, I need to spend a couple days land-forming without interruption ::)
Hey Cuse:
That really looks great. Lot of great structures. I really like it.
Karl
Nice progress John..... 8)
Looking real good john...
Loren...
Hi John. Layout is coming along great. You can't have enough buildings. Jim
Thanks guys...I was thinking I'd just plop that structure in facing the aisle but, now that I've got it, I'm pondering the more dramatic placement shown. I envision an elevated support of concrete pads and rocks, lifting it above the adjacent water (heavily influenced by Doug Foscale's display. The rear loading dock would drop down to water level after I cut away some existing land and sit nicely at the loading doors. It will require some time and planning but should result in a pretty dramatic, unsymmetrical placement and beautifully "mess up" the parallel lines of my existing shore....Execution Rocks was always my favorite kit and Vilius' build didn't disappoint!
Doing a little more cutting and fitting and mocking...I built that elevation for the brewery but now I'm not sure I like it. The wall is way too uniform and the elevation looks a little too perfect - like a wedding cake :o ...definitely not too late to alter
What a nice scene....
Very beautiful layout, can't wait to see this scene finish.
Eric
John,
Looking real good. What are you thinking for the end by the brewery? maybe a rocky outcrop, with a driveway coming down the front corner?
Loren...
Hey Cuse:
WOW!!!!! Very nice water front scene. Great colors and construction.
Karl
Quote from: fsmcollector67 on February 24, 2018, 10:12:34 AM
John,
Looking real good. What are you thinking for the end by the brewery? maybe a rocky outcrop, with a driveway coming down the front corner?
Loren...
Exactly. I had always planned to carve a steep roaddown from the brewery...I'm just debating the elevation and the long wall.
Thanks for the interest, guys
So I had dinner with my buddy, the graphic designer (background guy) and we worked out a rough backdrop. I was amazed with what I saw in Alaska last year and thought it could be pretty dramatic on the "woodsy" side of my layout. I got the "rough draft" cut and mounted this morning and I'll mark it up with a sharpie and we'll replace a few things and relocate a few things to better fit my 3D scenery construction to follow. It's great to have such a talented friend with the equipment, materials, and patience.
BTW, does anybody know why my photos post sideways? I've been posting here since day 1 and can't imagine what happened. I notice one of them posted correctly just to drive me completely out of my freaking mind. Sorry! Last time, they posted sideways but when you click to open them, they displayed correctly...It's not like I'm spinning them on purpose-I'm just selecting them as normal...making me a little unexcited to post
John
John,
I can't help with why they show up sideways but I did turn them up for you.
Like you said, the back drop photos are stunning. They fit your layout perfectly.
Tom ;D
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Thanks for the hand Tom...Some of the trees are clearly too large (to be distant) but, generally, it's not too far off in color and feel. The big rock outcropping will probably have to go as well...I thought it'd be cool to have a little gap in the (3D) foreground scenery to see it in the distance...not sure that will be convincing. Relatively easy fixes for my friend, the Wizard. I plan to build foreground scenery up to a significant height, so shrinking the trees down should work out as the backdrop (for the most part) only needs to extend about 12" from the top and the 3D scenery will rise up and obscure much of it with trees. Fun stuff.
John M.
Really nice work and progress John..... 8)
John...
Are you taking the photos on your Apple phone. My phone will randomly turn things sideways.
I think it is an anti-gravity thing ! ! !
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
John...
Are you taking the photos on your Apple phone. My phone will randomly turn things sideways.
I think it is an anti-gravity thing ! ! !
see ya
Bob
Yes I am. Relatively new phone, relatively new problem.
???
I'm really excited about the backdrop effect. It's VERY foggy and gloomy. I wasn't sure if it could work but now I think it'll be really cool and unique. A little risky maybe but hopefully worth it...kind of like modeling fall colors - it can be awesome or toylike. Hopefully, I can pull it off and further accentuate the change of environment from the waterfront populated area on the other side of the layout to the lonely deep foggy woods where tiny narrow gauge locomotives are dwarfed by the environment...we'll see
Just completed the 37 pages, lots of interesting stuff going on, when do you figure you'll start on the sw woodcutters shack?
Thanks for the interest. I really can't say. Once I get the background finished and installed, I'll likely get to work on landforms and finished background scenery. The turnaround end of the layout is earmarked for a large rocky elevation topped by Fos Dead Horse Bay...but that will likely be one of the last areas I get to....On the waterfront side, I've got a lot of wharf building and scenery shaping but I think structures are likely completed for that side (so it's tempting to push onward there)...so, to finally answer your question...I'd guess it could be towards the end of the year if I move at a steady pace.
If you read thru the whole story, you'll know my pace is often interrupted by busy times at work and significant wasted time whining about that ;)
One thing's for certain, any work I do, or Tom Sawyer out of my friends, I'll share here!
John
Hey, I recognize one or two of those structures. ;)
I think your backdrops are going to be quite dramatic and they'll look wonderful when finalized. I really like the effect you're going for. The only thing I don't care for is the sideways effect. :D
As promised, I put in a little train time today. I had to wade a few pages in and push through the warnings about this dead thread to get here, but...
I am just about ready to start building serious landforms on the "Backwoods" side of my layout. I thought I'd investigate the use of forced perspective by placing some N scale structures on top of a hill just to suggest some sort of development (sawmill, town, etc). I think it might just work but I want to look at it for a while before I commit. My plan would be to densely pack the area around it with trees to minimize it's effect and make the viewer have to dig around to see it. We'll see...
John
A few more pics of my N scale structure stash relocated to a remote mountaintop...just thinking
I think your forced perspective idea is going to work! I have been thinking about the same type of thing to bring depth to a not so deep layout. Looking forward to see how this goes. The idea of surrounding it with scaling foliage is a good one to separate the viewer from the big to the little. You really have me thinking now...
Awesome layout by the way. I really like your shadowbox approach.
John,
Happy to see you back at the layout. It gets the juices flowing doesn't it?
Looking forward to more of what you are planning.
Tom ;D
Great idea John, I'm hoping you can tell us if it works in real the way it looks on photo's.
Thank you guys. It's exciting to have the layout pulling at me. 2018 was a good year, just not for the layout...I'm back in.
John
I just got caught up on your progress. It is great to see you back at it. The backdrops look fantastic. Love the depth they give to the layout. I will be watching with great interest. Keep the inspiration going my friend. Work is only there to pay for the layout. ;)
I think that will work well for you. Nice job.
John the backscene looks cracking! Using n scale buildings and cars should work really well together with shorter trees near the backscene and the taller trees to the front of the layout. I am planning to do this for my new Norwegian layout but unfortunately I am having to use pictures of Wales instead of your moody Alaska shots for my backscene. For this new layout I will be using Full Scenic Baseboards like yourself.
Keep up the good work. BTW love the curved corners on the backscene - another of my goals..........
Mike :)
Oh , I'm getting N-scale company , what a treat. I know John already has the n-scale structures , but I'm expecting some real nice work from you Mike.
So I actually did something worth documenting on the layout...
I scenicked (at the workbench) a foam corner landform I had previously cut, stacked, and glued to fit. First, I hot glued some rock castings I had laying around. Then, I "frosted" the whole thing with some Ground Goop (Lou Sassi recipe) and spread a great variety of ground cover layers ranging from ground foam to static grass of various colors to tea leaves and more. Then I soaked it with a spray of rubbing alcohol and followed with a dropper full of diluted white glue. While still very wet, I applied static grass with my grassmaster. Then, I placed fallen branches, small trees, various Scenic Express shrubs, and some stumps made from real rotted branches, before finally planting the large evergreens. The final touch was a little rubber moose I picked up at a store counter while visiting Maine last year. I'll let it all dry for a day or two and carefully free it from the wax paper beneath for placement on the layout.
Extremely well done.
ed
What a piece of art , very Troels Kirk and Martin Welberg like.
Very nice.
Quote from: Janbouli on January 27, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
What a piece of art , very Troels Kirk and Martin Welberg like.
That's as fine a compliment as I could ever get...thanks
Once I get in motion, I'm pretty happy with the results. It looks good in place, I need to move on to the surrounding areas next.
John,
Looking good indeed....
Loren...
Neat scene John..... 8)
John,
Looks really great. Well done.
Tom ;D
New progress...I've broken ground on the "backwoods" side with the Bragdon Geodesic Foam scenery system. So far, I've built lightweight support from foam and covered them with the Bragdon hardshell foam. There are two pieces in place. Both are just temporarily on the layout. The next steps will be to take them (independently) back to the garage and cover their vertical faces with foam rock castings. I'll do as much of the finishing away from the layout as possible and then apply a casting or two over the joints between units and down to the river. This is an entirely new process for me but after watching the demo at the NNGC - I was hooked! Gives a good indication of how things will fit, including the FSM Bailey's Produce that Reading Bob recently built...the suspended track in the foreground is where I hope to place a three arch version of NE Brownstone's new stone arch bridge (check out Dave Emery's thread-that's where I first became aware of it)
Good progress John , that bridge is great, will you be building it yourself or is Dave's meant for you?
I wasn't aware that was an option...Dave, send it over ;D
(I haven't even ordered yet- I emailed Russ but I'm not even sure it's available yet
John - Attached is a photo taken very near your family's business in Pelham. It was posted on the New Haven RR forum site. Jim
Quote from: jrmueller on February 12, 2019, 08:08:26 AM
John - Attached is a photo taken very near your family's business in Pelham. It was posted on the New Haven RR forum site. Jim
I spent a lot of time on and around those tracks :) long before I cared about trains
It's been a productive weekend with some significant rock casting and application to the hardshell bases (plural as I will keep them manageably sized until planted on the layout). I'm getting more confident with the Bragdon foam scenery system and my progress increases with the lack of checking and double-checking every step of the way. A few more castings and some blending, cutting and fitting, and then it will be time for coloring the rock faces. Then I'll goop them up, apply my typical layer upon layer of ground cover, etc...I really think I'll have substantial scenic progress by the end of the month...then, I'll focus on nagging my buddy about completing my backdrop (on the other side) so I can do the final wrap-around landform with a dramatic rock face and (maybe?) a tunnel that will greet the visitor walking in the layout room...I'll be ready to get a structure or two going by then, I'm sure.
Anyone going to NNGC, I strongly suggest you check out Joel Bragdon's seminar, he's a neat guy and the system is revolutionary, IMO. I've never been comfortable with anything other than small plaster castings, but with this system, you can make huge ones, bend them, cut them up, store them for years, heat them up and shape them again and again...and the detail is really good. I wish he'd share his seminar on YouTube, I think a lot of people would abandon plaster - particularly for LARGE rock faces.
John
John
Good to see you working on the layout. I will be following your progress - I love to see the scene develop.
Nice looking rocks. Looking forward to seeing how you color them.
Jeff
Thanks.
I did a little more casting, including a few extras for scrap pieces, as I now need to do a little patching and blending with caulk. I should be able to (at least) get that done this weekend and begin coloring soon. Joel Bragdon's recommended method is to color the whole thing with white Gesso, follow with Black tempera powder (to highlight the cracks & shadows), and then to paint with very thin washes in many layers. I'm following his guidelines as I was truly amazed by some of his displayed work at the seminar. I also ordered more chemicals for the next batch of landforms - but I plan on finishing what I've done before moving on. I'll also need a new batch of Ground Goop to landscape on top, around, and within the rock faces. Between each step, I like to place the landforms and structures to help me check and double-check how it will work out and confirm track clearances, etc.
It's a busy weekend, but I hope to get some done tomorrow.
Finishing up the mountains in the garage. Hope to get them planted and merged(that's the scary part) this weekend.
Nice job on the stone walls
Great job. Really love the colors.
Wow , great stone coloring, looks real.
John,
Wonderful work on the rocks. I'm really looking forward to seeing them finished and installed on the layout.
Great looking rocks John..... 8)
Excellent looking rocks. :D They're going to look great on the layout!
John
Your stone work looks great! I know you're having fun with this. It shows in the level of detail. Fantastic!
John
My Grandson is sitting on my lap looking at your layout with me. He says "Papa we should go see this mans layout". I say "he lives in Florida". His eyes get real big and he says "that's where Mickey Mouse lives". Sounds like a road trip!
John,
Rock work looks great...
Loren...
John,
Just catching up with your progress.
Your scenery rocks!
I went to the clinic in Denver, 2017 put on by Bragdon and he sold me on his system. You just reinforced my decision. Nice job on the scenery.
Awesome looking rock work John.
Jim
Thanks everybody, for the comments. Hopefully, today, I'll figure out how to "meld" the two together with an additional casting. I've got a few extra that I made just to have...knowing that I can heat them up with a heat gun and bend them to fit in place. I'll make sure I take a "before" picture of the gap between the two big pieces that I built in the garage. It will take some magic to recreate the series of mishaps and false starts that ended up as really nice coloring...honestly, that's always been my system for scenery :o
got the rock faces on the layout (built in the garage)...now to try to "meld" them with a "casting graft" and somehow recreate the serious of accidents, mishaps, and false starts that resulted in the coloring. Then, I'll mix up some Ground Goop (my simplified version-paint, white glue, and Sculptamold) and things will move pretty quickly on this side of the backdrop. At that point, I'll have no excuse to not start on a kit ;D ...I've got a spot reserved for Sierra West's Woodcutters' Shack on the far right. I've also got to do the roof on the small station I assembled and abandoned a few years ago....Nothing inspires progress like progress.
John
You can see in the pics that I removed the upper facia (valance?) to avoid knocking off all the trees that I painstakingly planted. I figured I would replace it with a bigger piece because I seem to be a couple inches short for perfect viewing height. I always tend to see the underside of the top of the layout...I may just get some platform shoes instead.
Yesterday, my NE Brownstone stone arch bridge (see Dave E.'s thread) arrived. That will, eventually, go over the river to the left of the rocks. One thing I learned from ACL Tom is to switch it up. I get burnt out quick on ANY facet of the hobby. So, I'll probably go from mountains to landscaping to building a structure before building another mountain.
John
Really nice rock work John.
Great work John , and yes switching in tasks keeps you from getting burnt out , I always try to switch between small things that are not so visible to larger things like building a new piece of benchwork or new facia where you can really see progress, it gives a good feeling.
The "Casting Graft" has taken hold and I do believe I declare it a match!! I know where the joint is but I think I did a good enough job of color matching for it to, at least, seem like a natural palette. Hopefully, tonight, I'll get to whipping up a batch of Ground Goop to fill in at the top and begin the ground cover up to the track. Including planting the nearby handful of structures.
John
Here's the "before" for those new to this little project.
On another note, does anybody remember the first time they dry brushed? It's a miraculous development, isn't it :)
Great work on coloring the rocks. Nice job on the joint as well.
Jeff
Hey Cuse:
Looking really great.
Karl
Really nice color and merging of the two rock panels.
Great coloring on the rocks John.
Jerry
John
The rock work is looking great!
That's a pretty Darn good match John. I could not find the seam.
Jim
Thanks everyone...I've never gotten "rocky" like this before. I'm really excited about this Bragdon system
Terrific job Cuse. I also can't find the seam. Jim
Well done John , I must have gone back and forth between the 2 photo's 10 times till I saw where exactly the gape used to be.
Thanks Jim and Jan...I didn't get the Goop done last night :( . Today is a long day in Jacksonville (2 hour commute), tonight is earmarked for Tax prep. Maybe tomorrow night...applying the Goop and ground cover, particularly to the top of the joint area and to the pink surface at ground level, will allow me to plant two buildings, finish out the tree line up top, and add a lot to the finished look of that side of the layout. This is the "Backwoods Logging" side and, ultimately, I want to have lots of trees, details, and have that remote look that so many of the Aussie display layouts have really mastered. Here is an example from the Hangman Creek Logging Layout (not Aussie but similar modular shadowbox style) that is a tremendous inspiration to me. These guys have tremendous discipline in resisting overpopulating their layout...I'll try but not holding my breath ;)
John
John,
Great job on the blending of the rocks, they look wonderful.
Tom ;D
Thanks Tom.
Tonight, I finally mixed up some Goop and did some scenery in front of the rock face. I'm not sure I like all the dirt - I'll probably use some gray ballast for a gravel road...I'll decide after walking by it for a few days.
Fantastic work, my friend. I would look at it for a couple days and then and the next layer. I really like it.
Looks great John! The rock work is wonderful as is the rest of the scenery. Two thumbs up. :D
Great scene and modeling.
This is a great looking build John!
Thanks guys. Went a little further with the Goop and, at least preliminary, ground cover. I also added some more small trees and tufts, etc. For the record, the two beautiful structures are Reading Bob builds. I've got to tap out for the day...Hopefully, some more tomorrow.
WOW John , great , fantastic, gorgeous , I've still not found the right word for it. I especially love how all the colors blend.
Bigger better fascia...after I patch it up a little, install a few on/off toggles (for the sidings) and plug the nail holes, I'll paint it black. Also, making its forum debut, you can see the Stone Arch Bridge (unfinished) I got after watching Dave E's thread.
John
The fascia gives it a museum look. You did very well with it.
Beautiful treatment all around! How about some close-ups?
Looking great John , wrong scale ;) , but looking great.
Hey John:
What can I say but WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beautifully done. Can't wait to see the water scenes done.
Karl
thanks for the comments guys...Vince, I'll go through the thread and see if there are some good closer shots...It's been a while since I've focused on the "Coast" side of the layout, where they may be some closeup-worthy scenes (and good luck with the new gig).
Plenty of satisfying projects ahead, with just a little bit more necessary infrastructure (boring) work like replacing the carelessly done water surface near the end, wiring up a few toggle switches for lighting and siding power, and patching and painting the fascia. On a parallel, but more interesting, path - I've got to figure out the footprint for Dead Horse Bay and decide how best to feature it on the end of the layout with possible tunnels underneath, lots of rock work, transitioning from cliffs to coastline with some grace, etc. Also, lots more scenery to do over in the Woods including a precarious road along the front of the layout and my first Sierra West kit.
Looks great John..... 8)
Things are really coming together well. Lookin' good!
Jeff
John,
Great modeling !!!
Keep the photo updates coming .
Tommy
Sundays are for landscaping - outside and in. I even got started on ballast - just don't sneeze near the layout for now. I re-routed the road to the front of the layout where it will (?) traverse some sketchy terrain. Tons more trees and details to come for this area - but the colors are coming in. The hole in the Earth is where the Sierra West woodcutter's shack will go.
John
Looking great John , very natural appearance.
John, Looking very nice...
Hal
John
Just read through this. You really have a nice looking RR going on here.
Sorry I'm late to the show I'll try to keep up.
Jerry
Thanks guys, I appreciate the interest. Jerry, better late than never :) ...hope to do a little more tomorrow night.
John
John
The layout looks great! You are really making some progress.
As usual, the other million parts of my life have pulled me off of my intended layout progress...I've started placing junk around the engine house, but there can never be enough and I expect I will continue detailing this scene with layer upon layer of junk, spare parts and nature for years. Here's round one, comprised on what I had on hand, painted and weathered. I still have to secure a lot of the ground cover and glue with patches of static grass on top. Hopefully, that comes soon...I've got bags of Expo and CSS castings waiting to be painted and placed but other projects call. Good problem to have, I guess ::) . I know the little islands of castings looked "placed" at the moment, but they'll all look more natural as I fill in with weeds, spills, etc over time.
John
John,
The layout is coming along nicely. I like the overall appearance, great job.
Tom ;D
John
The detailing is a great start - every layer will make it look better. It's all about the details.
Looks realistic to me. Nice job.
Jerry
Looking good John.
Jim
Thanks guys.
Just went "down the rabbit hole" and pretty much re-read this thread from the beginning...what a mixed-up, half-baked, "no idea what's next" journey :o ...from N gauge to HOn30 to HOn3 back to HOn30 with a bunch of spur-of-the-moment demolition and total revisions along the way...it's more action movie (or comedy?) than documentary. I would encourage anyone who isn't documenting their layout's development to start now. It's a blast to re-visit and say "what the heck was I thinking" etc.
John
I've made some course changes, but nothing so far reaching as changing scale or gauge. But I spent my working career doing software intended to last years (a couple of programs survived into their 2nd decade). So my layout, electrical and operations threads are fairly full of notes to 'future me' on how I was doing this or that, and why.
James, I've tons of notebooks, scribbles, to do lists. for both trains and 1:1 life...I can't imagine not having them available for my "updates"
Did a little more landscaping, some static grass and some additional trees and weeds and, most significant but least visibly, secured it all and cleaned the track.
Snuck in a little train time today...Had to get my hands a little dirty between Mothers Day stuff...I split and stacked a lot of wood in my youth. This is more satisfying. The "hole in the Earth" is where my Sierra West Woodcutter's Shack will reside. Pretty messy around the [/color][/size]engine house - an OSHA nightmare. Someday, when I find time to paint all of those detail castings I've acquired at various CSS, Expo, and NNGC shows - it will be even messier. ;D
John
John,
Beautiful work being done on your layout ! Thanks for sharing the story thru this thread since 2014.
Did not know that I was sitting across a great modeler at the NNGC last year ! Very impressed with your modeling.
Will look forward to all the new planned additions.
Tommy
Thanks Tom, I've had a ton of help on the layout. Much of the structures and rolling stock in the photos were built by others like Reading Bob and Dave Fugere. There are other structures on the layout built by ACLTom, Loren (FSMCollector), and Vilius as well (on the other side of the backdrop)..I really enjoy putting it all together with scenery...I'm trying to balance out the structure count so that I can claim half myself. Not there yet.
Thanks, John
I Love the peninsula. You did a great job on it.
Hey Cuse:
great scenery and I like the engine house.
Karl
Looking good John..... 8)
Thanks guys...I've been in a bit of a lull but I have plans to get a little more scenery done this weekend.
I got a good bit done today and yesterday. Scenery is making its way towards the fascia. My goal for this quarter was to finish the scenery on this side of the layout (up to the river/stone bridge). I still have the foreground, which will feature a rickety road - mostly supported by trestles, to complete and, most dauntingly, a Sierra West kit to be built. Do-able but not without challenges considering my workload.
A few more angles
John
Fantastic work! It is really coming along nicely. The only criticism is that I think you need to work on reducing that workload. ;) I hope you are still planning on a trip to Sacramento this fall.
Very nice modeling John.
Quote from: S&S RR on June 09, 2019, 07:39:07 PM
John
Fantastic work! It is really coming along nicely. The only criticism is that I think you need to work on reducing that workload. ;) I hope you are still planning on a trip to Sacramento this fall.
I was pretty much resigned that I wouldn't this year, but just this morning I realized I should...50/50 right now. I'll certainly let you know
Beautiful workmanship.
Love the overall scene!!
Jerry
Hey Cuse:
WOW!!! really looks great.
Karl
Thanks guys ...much appreciated. I just got a box 'o trees to plant...but I'd be wise to ballast the short bit of unfinished track before "foresting" away my access. Hope to get some train time for Father's Day
John
John,
Looking real great, that is going to be a sharp looking layout when done...
Loren...
Quote from: fsmcollector67 on June 15, 2019, 05:27:33 PM
John,
Looking real great, that is going to be a sharp looking layout when done...
Loren...
Thanks Loren..."Done?", is there such a thing? ;D I've got two lifetimes of projects at my current pace. I assume retirement (someday) will help my progress.
John
So today, before cookout and blowing stuff up, I got in a few quality hours of scenery building...I started to meticulously construct a road bridge in the foreground (supported by some felled tree trunks) but quickly ran out of stained wood. Slathered some more Goop, sprinkled some ground cover, ballasted some track, planted some tufts and weeds, added a few more trees...
John,
That looks very nice. Well done my friend.
Tom ;D
John, What Beautiful detail!!!!
Excellent modeling.
Looks great John. Really great job on the scenery! :D
Really coming together well on the scenery, John.
Jeff
Thanks guys. Progress is fun!
Looks really good John.
Jim
Really love your scenery. So well done!!
Jerry
Thanks for looking in guys...The bridge is open for business. I'm pondering some kind of guardrail but the Contractor on this job (M. Furlow Civil Engineering, Inc) said it's unnecessary. We'll see.
Again, Beautiful job................Dennis
Thank you Dennis
The scenery is awesome John .
Nicely done John..... 8)
I love the overloaded truck..... Dennis :)
John,
Coming along nicely....
Loren...
Thanks Guys!
Tonight is the beginning of the 3rd Qtr (according to my planner) and my SINGLE model railroading goal for the next 3 months is to build a Sierra West Scale Models Woodcutters Shack. This is my first Sierra West kit and I'm very excited for the board by board challenge. For some of you, this would seem like setting the bar pretty low for the time allotted. My hope is to be PATIENT and methodical with every detail and treatment of every board and casting...these are not my usual methods ??? I've built some very nice models but never to the level I think I am capable due to my impatience...this project is as much therapeutic psychology as it is art for me. I hope to "touch it" several times per week, even if only for one little step or preparation for a step. There are some amazing model builders on here and I'm fortunate to have some of their builds on my layout but this one is special to me...I hope I don't screw it up ;D
John
I'm looking forward to following your build.
Hey Cuse:
I/m on my 2nd Sierra West kit. Logging Camp Essentials. I will be following your build.
Karl
Broke the ice...on vacation the week after next but I wanted to at least do something tangible before I left. Initial staining of the strip wood.
You always have to start somewhere!
Looking forward to the build John.
Jerry
I'll be watching, Cuse.
Cheers, Mark.
Dido, I'll be watching as well.....Dennis
John any updates.
Or are you still on vacation???
Jerry
Funny you should ask...Trains are running today.
Great to see!
Beautiful work!
Jeff
Thanks for the interest guys- just what I need...been a heck of a summer. I've been up to NY and back 3x for my Mom's illness and my brother-in-law's unexpected passing along with unprecedented assaults from beyond at work (can't discuss but I should write a book someday)... This is the first time I even laid a finger on the layout...Made me smile. Progress to come.
John,
Beautiful photos! I'm glad it looks like you are finally coming out the other side of the tunnel and can again work on your layout.
Looking good John.
Jim
I can't wait to see the progress.
One of the best layouts I've seen!!
Jerry
Wow...Thanks Guys...I better get back to work. I'm so pleased with the Bragdon rock system that I've been seriously re-thinking some of my "visions" for the unfinished scenery. Been studying a lot of my Malcolm Furlow archives ::) Things could get dramatic!
Thanks again for the interest and motivation...John
The last photo is amazing.
John,
The next time you are in my area give me a visit. I have something you may want.
Two walls in the package and better yet, you can have them for just the visit.
You can see the walls in the above photo.
Tom ;D
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041019125917.jpeg)
I finished scenic king the base for the brewery built by Loren (FSMCollector) and let the glue dry overnight. This morning I plan to blend it into the adjacent scenery and ballast the track immediately in front of it...a little goop should do the trick - this stuff is perfect for me because it's controllable, versatile, and you can leave it for months and come back and it's ready to go. I'll probably go into my Scenic Express stash for some vines for the wall, particularly to mask the joints and generally age it up a bit.
John,
Looking real good. I had almost forgotten about the Brewery. Layout is coming out fantastic...
Loren...
Finished "planting" this beauty...next, I'll move forward to focus on locating Execution Rocks' Sailmaker. This amazing brewery was scratch built by Loren. The sailmaker was built for me by Vilius. I feel like I'm curating a museum as well as building a layout and I'm thankful for it.
John
John
They look great!
Now that the Brewery is in place, I can move to the foreground to plant the Sailmaker. I've got a bit of coastline to model and then the building will sit upon a concrete base. Just stuck a few trees in place to help visualize the sight lines.
Love what you're doing John , keep it up.
John,
The first photo shows that you have done a great job drawing the viewer into the scene with the sight line to the brewery between the ship and the sailmaker. Looking forward to seeing this with the waterfront finished and a few trees added. Your backdrop really adds depth in this area. Very well done!
That's another really neat scene taking shape on your layout John! Love it.
John very impressive!!
Even though I model in O-Scale I'm getting a lot of good information from your thread. Keep up the great work.
Jerry
Looks great John
Looking good John.
Jim
John - What is the Bragdon rock system you refer to? Jim
Thanks for the interest guys.
Jim, Joel Bragdon gives demos at various national conventions. He created a system for foam rock casting that I invested in and love. I was always averse to plaster castings or carving my own rocks, so never really went towards that kind of scenery. With the Bragdon system, I'm looking for opportunities for huge rock faces...It's neat, controllable, and you can re-shape landforms and castings anytime with a heat gun. I never could find any great YouTube stuff, but I'm sure there's some...his website is http://www.bragdonent.com...I don't think there's a way to "dabble" in it as it's basically a completely different group of chemicals. I can't say enough about it.
John
It's not exactly layout "progress" but I moved my entire layout a foot farther away from the wall. My office "alley" is a little bit tighter but workable and now there's 4' of space on the rural/mountainous side of the layout...I'm not saying there will someday be a dramatic floor to ceiling mountain branch along that wall someday but...I'm not saying there won't. ;D
Basically, just preparing for retirement (which is many miles away) but there are certain developments that could lead me to scale back the work hours a bit in the next few years, so the gears are turning.
Hope to do some actual on-layout work this weekend.
John
Nice finished look to the benchwork. The scenery ain't bad, either. ;D
Jeff
John
Expansion space is a wonderful thing. ;) ;D ;D I love mountains - so you know what gets my vote. Oh wait a minute - it's your railroad and I don't get a vote. ;) It is great to see you working on the railroad. The blue cup makes it look like one of my Grandson's have been there.
Looks great, John!
All lit up like a picture! You must count anything towards future expansion as layout work! Looking forward to future floor to ceiling mountains!
Cheers, Mark.
Did a little work on the concrete base for the Fos Execution Rocks Sailmaker structure yesterday. I used AK Concrete which is very nice to work with. It spreads like butter right out of the jar and hardens with a great cement texture and color. I'll sand it a bit tonight (?) to knock off the overly dramatic points and, if needed, fill in a little. It can be worked and smoothed like plaster and a couple drops of water help blend/smooth it. I tried to include form lines with my palette knife but may have gone overboard...However, overboard is kind of my preference. I prefer things a bit over -weathered, over dramatized, etc...a little cartoonish...I don't expect to paint it, I'll just weather with powders.
John
Nice work on the concrete. Looks pretty realistic to me.
Jerry
Beautiful job John........Dennis
Awesome work. Concrete, building and the whole layout. I love the museum look to your layout. Well done.
Thanks guys...I really like this concrete product from AK.
Regarding the overall look-Thank you. The overall effect is probably what I am most attuned to. When I see these photos, it occurs to me that I shouldn't put off painting the upper and lower fascia much longer as it will really contribute to the overall impact.
Thanks again...John
Everything looks really great John! :D :D :D
I'm trying to find a way to say that without it seeming self serving. ::)
got a couple of good hours in this morning. I planted the Fos sailmaker building on it's concrete base and scenicked all around it. Plenty of room for more detail in the area and need to paint and Mod Podge the water surface to call it a finished job. Off to the fights tonight. Big Kids coming over tomorrow.
John
Very nice John.
I just want to nominate my very favorite ground cover materials...I always use 5 or more, generally starting with a base of Scenic Express soil, with some pinches of 3 Fall/winter colors of static grass, maybe tea leaves to give a little darker look and "suggest" leaves. In a lot of spots, I finish with static grass applied with the Scenic Express thingy and a lot of individually placed Silflor tufts-especially Buffalo Grass (which has a couple of colors within). Probably 3 or 4 more in the regular rotation BUT my very favorite are:
-Some fine gravel stuff that Russ from NE Brownstone threw in the box with my stone bridge order...awesome! I'm hooked, isn't that what crack dealers did-give a small freebie of an addictive product?
-Scenic Express Super Turf "Leaf Litter"
-Scenic Express/Martin Mellberg WB-SEAG Bushes, Type E High.
Ground cover is my favorite "difference-maker" and so much of my experience are happy accidents as opposed to tireless research- so I thought I'd share a few good ones.
John
Quote from: cuse on November 04, 2019, 08:06:30 AM
I just want to nominate my very favorite ground cover materials...I always use 5 or more, generally starting with a base of Scenic Express soil, with some pinches of 3 Fall/winter colors of static grass, maybe tea leaves to give a little darker look and "suggest" leaves. In a lot of spots, I finish with static grass applied with the Scenic Express thingy and a lot of individually placed Silflor tufts-especially Buffalo Grass (which has a couple of colors within). Probably 3 or 4 more in the regular rotation BUT my very favorite are:
-Some fine gravel stuff that Russ from NE Brownstone threw in the box with my stone bridge order...awesome! I'm hooked, isn't that what crack dealers did-give a small freebie of an addictive product?
-Scenic Express Super Turf "Leaf Litter"
-Scenic Express/Martin Mellberg WB-SEAG Bushes, Type E High.
Ground cover is my favorite "difference-maker" and so much of my experience are happy accidents as opposed to tireless research- so I thought I'd share a few good ones.
John
All good choices my friend.
Nothing too dramatic, but I did do something significant on the layout over the weekend...I reworked the supporting benchwork, track and feeders to give me more opportunity for scenery outside the track. It was way too close to the edge in a couple of spots and it also compromised the NE Brownstone Stone Bridge (which I'll now be able to add an additional arch to). I also soldered and repaired a couple of bad rail joints around the layout so they won't haunt me forever...It was a good reminder of the importance of getting that stuff done well BEFORE scenery. Oh well, my elbows didn't smash anything but a few tree branches. All those threads of ACL Tom leveling and re-laying track...you'd think I'd have learned by now ::)
This end of the layout will have lots of rocks and vertical (including negative) scenery, so once I get my vision for it completed, I'll reevaluate the fascia profile and make any necessary changes. I'd really like to get the fascia patched and painted as I know that will immediately ratchet up the overall "finish" of the layout.
John
Looking great John
John,
I agree with Jim, looking good. I think the idea of rocks around the end will look fantastic.
Tom ;D
Hey John:
looks just great. I agree with Tom on the rocks.
Karl
John
It looks great and I agree with the extension of the rocks down or (negative scenery) will really add to the overall look of the scene. At some point I would like to do the same thing in a couple areas of my layout. There is always another project.
Finally some progress to report...my stone bridge is in place. NE Brownstone supplied and Dave Emery did a detailed build of his somewhere on this forum. I colored mine with grey primer with a light spray of tan "camouflage" spray paint while still in pieces. I assembled it in sections at the workbench and used watercolor washes to get some variation in the color. I really like the effect but, now that I have it in place under layout lighting, I see a few spots to touch up. I think I will install some timber framing along the edges of the bridge to help contain ballast.
John
Beautiful job.
Your bridge looks great! I particularly like how you worked the abutments into the scenery. I know I'll have to touch up mine, too, but that will wait until I get around to pouring 'water' into the stream.
dave
Beautiful. That is really going to be a wonderful scene when finished.
Looking forward to progress.
Jerry
Looking good, Billy Ray! ;)
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 22, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
Looking good, Billy Ray! ;)
Feelin' good.....neat bridge John. 8)
Thanks Guys. Feels good to be in motion again, if only for the moment. Took me a second to scan the depth of my brain for the 80's movie reference but I narrowed it down and was happy to confirm I still have some mental ability. ;D
John
John
Beautiful build on the bridge.
Jerry
Quote from: cuse on December 24, 2019, 07:02:21 AM
Thanks Guys. Feels good to be in motion again, if only for the moment. Took me a second to scan the depth of my brain for the 80's movie reference but I narrowed it down and was happy to confirm I still have some mental ability. ;D
John
Don't feel bad John.....I remember the first part of the quote, but can't remember the name that came after it.....still can't. :-[
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 24, 2020, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: cuse on December 24, 2019, 07:02:21 AM
Thanks Guys. Feels good to be in motion again, if only for the moment. Took me a second to scan the depth of my brain for the 80's movie reference but I narrowed it down and was happy to confirm I still have some mental ability. ;D
John
Don't feel bad John.....I remember the first part of the quote, but can't remember the name that came after it.....still can't. :-[
Oh c'mon man. ::) I told you at lunch the last time we were down at Tom's. :P It's "Feeling good, Louis!". Trading Places. 1983 ;D ;D ;D
Hey John:
Love the bridge. Is it A kit or scratch? Keep the pic flowing.
Karl
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 24, 2020, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 24, 2020, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: cuse on December 24, 2019, 07:02:21 AM
Thanks Guys. Feels good to be in motion again, if only for the moment. Took me a second to scan the depth of my brain for the 80's movie reference but I narrowed it down and was happy to confirm I still have some mental ability. ;D
John
Don't feel bad John.....I remember the first part of the quote, but can't remember the name that came after it.....still can't. :-[
Oh c'mon man. ::) I told you at lunch the last time we were down at Tom's. :P It's "Feeling good, Louis!". Trading Places. 1983 ;D ;D ;D
Oh crap.....I forgot. Must be having a senior moment. ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on January 25, 2020, 05:00:50 AM
Hey John:
Love the bridge. Is it A kit or scratch? Keep the pic flowing.
Karl
Thanks Karl...It's from NE Brownstone, cast plaster pieces that can be reconfigured. Dave Emery did a great thread on his build.
Hey John:
You are quite welcome.
Karl
A little bit of work lately (mostly thinking). The "end" of my two sided layout is a critical scene/opportunity/crisis...I will have a beautiful Fos Dead Horse Bay featured prominently but I needed to create a transition from basically flat waterfront to my depiction of backwoods Maine on the other side of the curve. After meeting Joel Bragdon and his amazing rockwork system, my Maine hills look a little like the Rocky Mountains...so sue me - I like what I like ;D . I'm a little bit Frary and a little bit Furlow....Here, I've started the foam landform and "shelf" where Dead Horse Bay will loom over the tunnel below. Ultimately, the rock faces will start on the pink foam and escalate in drama as they round the corner. On the "rockier side", I plan to build the mountainside around to a steep and dramatic cliff above the river and stone bridge. I always enjoy reading over my plans on this thread as I rarely complete anything as originally intended.
Looking good John! Very good indeed! :D
Very nice John..... 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 12, 2020, 11:35:14 AM
Very nice John..... 8)
Great to see you back at the layout. Looking fantastic.
Tom ;D
Bob, Greg, and Tom...thanks for checking in. I appreciate it!
John
John
It is great to see you back working on your layout - beautiful work my friend.
Your modeling is more than a little bit amazing.
ed
What a fine looking scene this will make.
From the water to the woods great idea and I'm sure it will all blend together nicely.
Besides it your RR and what looks nice to you is all that counts.
Jerry
Thanks much, Jerry and Ed.
John, thanks for checking in...what are your thoughts on St Louis NNGC?
I wonder if it's possible to buy CHEAP flights now for future dates. risky?
John
Quote from: cuse on April 14, 2020, 06:27:32 PM
Thanks much, Jerry and Ed.
John, thanks for checking in...what are your thoughts on St Louis NNGC?
I wonder if it's possible to buy CHEAP flights now for future dates. risky?
John
Hi John
I would still like to go to the St. Louis Narrow Gauge Convention but it all depends on the BIG Germ as my Grandson calls it. Papa can't visit him until the big germ goes away. This new life style we find ourselves in is hard to explain to young kids. I would have to see a couple months of no new cases before I will be willing to travel - especially on an airplane. So we will wait and see. The NMRA national that was scheduled for this Summer in St. Louis has already been canceled.
Visualizing with a little hot-gluing mixed in...Measure twice...trying to mock up all of the viewing angles before the earth rises up. This end is the first thing you see when you enter the room. Also the trickiest due to the backdrop end and end loop. Dos' Dead Horse Bay and Bar Mills Doverton (minus the wharf) should have nice featured spots. Once I walk around it for a few days and decide it's ok, it'll be time for some Bragdon foam rock faces. Getting all set up is a bit daunting for that step, but once it starts it's easy to make a lot of progress quickly.
Good to see you back at the layout. I'm hoping the Narrow gauge convention is held as I'd like to see the Bragdon demonstration in person.
Jeff
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on April 18, 2020, 11:29:59 AM
Good to see you back at the layout. I'm hoping the Narrow gauge convention is held as I'd like to see the Bragdon demonstration in person.
Jeff
Thanks Dr. Jeff. Hope to make it there as well. Hope you're keeping safe.
I've just been refreshing my memory on the Bragdon process as I'm gearing up for the next step and I'm again stunned that this has not been more widely accepted. I wish Joel (Bragdon) had some good youtube videos up. The only thing I've ever seen is a two DVD set called "The Making of Tom Miller's Fabulous F-scale layout", which I purchased from Joel. There is one chapter showing the process as they create virtually weightless rockfaces the size of my house on this epic layout. It's really an amazing technique. I've never enjoyed the mess of plaster or the fragile nature of the castings. With the foam rock faces, the detail is amazing, they are close to unbreakable and (drum roll) you can heat them up and shape them to fit anywhere (at any time, even years later). I'm really not able to come up with a drawback...maybe, it wouldn't really be worth the effort to just make a single rock face. The setup is a little messy but can be done outside and then the application to the layout is pretty easy and workable. I sound like I should be working at his booth, but it really is exciting to me. I honestly think I avoided dramatic mountain scenery for decades because I didn't like the process or results until I saw the seminar.
A quick question while on the subject, John. I assume the system can be used to make "normal" scenery, like hardshell. I ask as I have to make some bluffs which won't be totally open rock faces, like the pic below.
Jeff
Dr Jeff, I've seen similar bluffs on the south side of Pittsburgh, along the P&LE tracks, as well as some other locations in SW PA.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/pittsburgh-and-lake-erie-railroad-station-with-iron-bridge-and-cliff-picture-id873997336)
dave
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on April 18, 2020, 01:45:26 PM
A quick question while on the subject, John. I assume the system can be used to make "normal" scenery, like hardshell. I ask as I have to make some bluffs which won't be totally open rock faces, like the pic below.
Jeff
The way it works (in brief) is...
1. create a support system, it's somewhat self supporting, so just a few risers or "ribs" for the general shape
2. you make a skin of foam-covered fiberglass window screen. This can be several feet in size. This is draped over the support and shaped to contours desired. It is very easily re-heated and formed into place. Attach quickly with hot glue.
*What you have now is basically a more versatile hardshell contour. You could cover this with any finish from dirt to grass, etc.
3. cast foam rock faces...these are easily handled and very lightweight, so can be quite large. I have a mold thats probably 18" x 30" and is no different to work with than a small one. You apply these only where you want rocks.
Long winded answer, but YES
Thanks for the info, John.
Jeff
I am going to use the Bragdon procedure for my scenery. I am very impressed with it and have sat thru several clinics on how to do it. I like it for all the reasons mentioned above.
Good luck, Jeff and Steve. I look forward to your reviews if you use the Bragdon system...It's really on my "Rock Solid" list along with Ground Goop, Scenic Express ground cover, and early 70's Rolling Stones.
Today I scenicked a hill that will ultimately connect to the Bragdon-built rock faces that will dominate the end of the layout. I also added a few more foam supports to make it easy to shape the Bragdon shell when I get to it.
Wow , that's a mighty steep climb, looks fantastic , hope that car has good parking brakes.
Looks great.
Nice progress pics, at what point do you start to fill in the gaps?
John good to see a new update. Great looking scene with the car.
Jerry
Quite stunning. Keep up the great work my friend!
Thanks Guys. I'm doing more today and will likely post a photo if worthwhile.
Jan, it is steep but George Sellios said it was makable ;) . We like drama here!
John
Yesterday and this morning I worked up a wharf extension to help hide/repair an awkward level change area. I used the wharf parts from my Bar Mills F&SM tribute "Wharf at Doverton" kit. I recently decided I would be re-purposing the large structure and locating it on a mountainside, so the wharf materials were available. I gooped all around and somewhat underneath before I planted it in place. Honestly, I forgot to dry brush and just smacked it with some chalks. The stain was already varied, so I think it's good for now. Lots of detail for someday but mostly, my aim was to get to the hard to reach stuff before embarking on my planned mountain construction. To that end, I also ballasted the remaining trackage into the tunnel mouths. In an unusual (for me) bit of foresight, I resisted planting a building that would definitely be in harm's way.
Good infrastructure day. I'm getting closer to the day when I'll just be detailing, adding vehicles and cool narrow gauge rolling stock, and revising weak spots. I still have 3 significant kits to build and one in Vilius' more than capable hands. I'm also looking forward to the day that I patch and paint the fascia to give it all that "framed" look. I anticipate some rock faces landing on (or over?) the fascia, so I've held off.
John
John,
Looking very professional my friend. It all looks so natural, well done.
Tom ;D
Looking great, John!
Cheers, Mark.
Looks top notch.
John,
Catching up on your amazing layout. Five stars sir !!!
Would like to hear more info about that Bragdon clinic tip mentioned.
Tommy
Great scene John..... 8)
Beautiful! Wonderful scene.
Jerry
Thanks guys. I appreciate the support.
I hope to get some time in today but my damn phone keeps ringing...it IS still a workday. I should be glad it's ringing honestly.
Next step is to begin the Bragdon process...I'll try to configure the fiberglass screen material that will form the basic shell. Normally, you can just make a big piece and cut it to fit onsite...but this build requires a much longer and less high strip, so I may try to be efficient in it's design. Remains to be seen...at the very least, I hope to get the ballasted tracks cleaned and the trains running again.
Tommy, any specific questions about Bragdon process?...I'll try. Like I said, not a lot of great info online from them. A solid YouTube video of his clinic would put them over the top, IMO.
John
Got a bit more infrastructure done. I went a little nuts and tried to finish an extensive rock walled area with what I had on hand...Bragdon leftovers, soft foam scenic express scraps, stiff Foam castings also from Scenic Express, and some scraps that I fit in like a puzzle. Thankfully, I tapped out before I really ruined it and ordered another helping of Bragdon supplies to finish off the last of the rock faces. Additional scenicking followed...
A couple more pics...I ordered more stuff from Bragdon and they shipped next day-so I should be rocking again next weekend.
Many great scenes John. Beautiful modeling.
ed
thanks very much Ed! Just opened the mail and got my Bragdon supplies. Ready to go again!
John
Great looking layout John.
Doug
thanks Doug. I appreciate the support.
John
John
Looking great. Can you check the last batch of pictures that you posted. I get a downloadable only url and no picture. The pictures at the top of the page are fine. I did download the pictures and it works fine but I don't understand what you did different. To be clear - I download the pictures to my computer and then viewed the downloaded file. Is anyone else having this problem? This is a first.
All I see of the latest pictures is a paperclip and IMG. When downloaded they are HEIC files, which I cannot open. ???
Jeff
Quote from: S&S RR on May 27, 2020, 08:27:36 PM
John
Looking great. Can you check the last batch of pictures that you posted. I get a downloadable only url and no picture. The pictures at the top of the page are fine. I did download the pictures and it works fine but I don't understand what you did different. To be clear - I download the pictures to my computer and then viewed the downloaded file. Is anyone else having this problem? This is a first.
Same here.
John, here's the problem with the recent pictures: Apple changed the default format for photos on iDevices from JPEG to HEIC. The problem is that neither the forum nor a lot of people's web browsers can handle the new format.
So what you need to do is open the photo in something like Preview.app and do "Export to" and select JPEG. And here's how to change the default on your phone: https://www.techjunkie.com/heic-to-jpeg-iphone/ (https://www.techjunkie.com/heic-to-jpeg-iphone/) That link also shows how to convert formats on the iPhone/iPad.
A lot of high school kids got burned by this on the AP exams, where they had to send in a picture of their work and the College Board who runs the test couldn't handle the HEIC format.
dave
thanks guys, especially Dave, for the details...I did just get a new Apple desktop and solving it would have never happened on my own. Thanks...I'll try to spend some time with it later on.
John
Quote from: deemery on May 28, 2020, 09:47:20 AM
John, here's the problem with the recent pictures: Apple changed the default format for photos on iDevices from JPEG to HEIC. The problem is that neither the forum nor a lot of people's web browsers can handle the new format.
So what you need to do is open the photo in something like Preview.app and do "Export to" and select JPEG. And here's how to change the default on your phone: https://www.techjunkie.com/heic-to-jpeg-iphone/ (https://www.techjunkie.com/heic-to-jpeg-iphone/) That link also shows how to convert formats on the iPhone/iPad.
A lot of high school kids got burned by this on the AP exams, where they had to send in a picture of their work and the College Board who runs the test couldn't handle the HEIC format.
dave
Dave
I have been using the "export to" with the *.jpeg option to reduce the size of my iPhone pictures so I never got burned by this one. Thank you for the information.
Hi All:
Hope everyone is having a great day down in Fl.
Karl
Thank you Karl...had a productive day yesterday and today...but nothing train related. Vilius has packed up Dead Horse Bay and I've finished it's resting place. Will certainly post pics when I get it nested in.
John
Let's see if I can post my pics again...
More... Foscale's Dead Horse Bay was built by the great and powerful Vilius. I was very excited to get the big box and get to planting it. I've discovered that I like to take highly detailed masterpieces and make the viewer work to see them. The trees block the view, but the poor foreground lighting was unintentional and i think I will have to put a little LED strip along the front fascia to really feature this structure and the (as yet unbuilt) Doverton Wharf that will reside in the vacant mountaintop lot next door....John
More...and thanks again for the helpful advice about converting my pics to a format that works here...
Looks great John.
More
Looks very natural in that spot. Glad to hear Vilius is still building wonderful structures.
Jeff
John a beautiful scene for sure.
Jerry
Spectacular, John.
Cheers, Mark.
What a great scene John, rocks are gorgeous, and the structure fits perfect.
John,
Great job on the rock work. You've been busy.
Tom ;D
Great work John .....looks terrific. 8)
John,
Great progress, rock work looks amazing..
Loren...
Jeff, Jerry, Mark, Jan, Tom, Greg, and Loren...Thanks. I'm really happy with the results. Vilius is a true artist - everything is weathered and colored perfectly. It looks board by board...
Next Up (in no order) after adding more underbrush and random scenic king...
-repaint, detail and resurface the river under the bridge...pondering whether to add rocks and running water or just go for that magical Envirotex shine
-paint the upper and lower fascia. I'm very excited to see the effect this has in "framing it all"
-build SWSM Woodcutter Shack for a little hidden spot in the back corner
-build Foscale's Pendleton Marine...which is a really nice, complex background flat structure
-build Bar Mills' FSM tribute Wharf at Doverton, but not on a wharf
All three kits have dedicated real estate with scenery creeping up already, I really want to build the rest myself just to keep the ratio respectable ;D I've got BEAUTIFUL builds featured by ReadingBob, ACLTom, FSMCollector Loren, a really cool snowplow and some cars by Dave Fugere and a couple of masterpieces by Vilius, If I build the rest myself, I'm at about 10 myself. I LOVE to feature work by others on my layout but I also need to remind myself what I'm capable of with a little patience and (more challenging to find) time. After that, I'll turn to vehicles, rolling stock, critters, SWSM work train, Jordans, placing figures and details forever...or until I get a wild hair and blow it up (again). I also have a tentative plan to extend a little skinny branch someday, perhaps spanning some high bridges to get to a big sawmill? We'll see, just a brain dump for now.
John
Looks great John! Thanks for keeping us posted on your progress. ;)
John
It looks great!! I love the way the whole scene is coming together. Structures are supposed to blend into the scenery - very well done. Vilius did a great job on the build, too.
John, I always love seeing your updates. Things sure a looking great these days.
John any more progress?
Jerry
Hey Cuse:
WOW!!!! looks really beautiful on the layout. Great job on that structure.
Karl
Quote from: Jerry on November 20, 2020, 09:09:40 AM
John any more progress?
Jerry
So John have you done anything to the layout recently??
Jerry
Layout is looking good.
Tom
Thank to all of you for the interest and the compliments. I'm sorry I've gone so long without visiting. I really haven't made any progress other than occasionally cleaning the tracks and running them around a bit. Been busy with life but all is well.
I was on a ZOOM meeting yesterday and didn't even realize my lit up shadowbox layout was nicely positioned behind me (I saw it, of course, but it didn't really register-in fact, I turned the layout lighting on to improve my own image). One of the people asked about my "backdrop image" and the cat was out of the bag. They were amazed and intrigued and, upon reflection, so was I. It'd been a while since I considered how amazing this stuff is to me and would be to anyone with a shred of curiosity or artistic interest.
Anyone, I'll see where this little burst of energy takes me.
Thanks again. Nothing new to share...yet
John
Glad to see you back John.....I think I'm in need of a little inspiration and a big kick in the pants also. ;)
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 13, 2021, 10:38:57 AM
Glad to see you back John.....I think I'm in need of a little inspiration and a big kick in the pants also. ;)
Thank you, same here...it's funny, on the ZOOM call, I went on to explain that I planned to paint the fascia black and I had a handful of structures to build and then realized I was "overstaying my welcome" on the trains. But it was nice that a couple people asked great questions about whether there was a geographic area being modeled, etc...good visit by "civilians" ;D
Hope to see you and other SBG's soon.
John
Good to see you posting again John! I was wondering what you've been up to. ???
Greg - once I get vaccinated and can visit Tom's again I'd be happy to give you a kick in the pants. I'm sure Tom would too. ;)
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 13, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Greg - once I get vaccinated and can visit Tom's again I'd be happy to give you a kick in the pants. I'm sure Tom would too. ;)
Heck, I'd do it for free. Shot or no shot. 8) Tom ;D
John,
Hard for me to believe, but as passionate as you were, that you stayed away so long.
Tom ;D
Thanks guys.....I feel so warm and fuzzy.....isn't it wonderful to have such a plethora of friends. ::)
Thanks guys. I'm vaccinated now...when's the next meet? I don't want to miss Greg's butt-kicking.
John
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 13, 2021, 11:32:02 AM
John,
Hard for me to believe, but as passionate as you were, that you stayed away so long.
Tom ;D
Yeah...that's kind of me...all in or all out (at times)...I've also made vows to not beat myself up over stuff like this. I've got other stuff on my plate that can't be put aside, so...All good.
John
Et Tu Mancuso..... :)
John
It's good to see you back. I'm in the process of getting my shots. One more to go. Are you planning on the Narrow Gauge Convention this year?
Quote from: S&S RR on March 13, 2021, 09:48:57 PM
John
It's good to see you back. I'm in the process of getting my shots. One more to go. Are you planning on the Narrow Gauge Convention this year?
I was going to message you about that...I think I'd really like to make that happen!
Hey Cuse:
Like I said it sure looks just great on the layout. Keep up the good work.
Karl
Thank you Karl...I hope to get something going here soon. I've got some kits on deck...
-FOS Pendleton Marine
-Bar Mills Doverton Wharf (FSM tribute) w/o the wharf
-Sierra West Woodcutter's Shack
All 3 have designated spots on the layout and not room for much else structure-wise. Obviously, endless opportunities for detailing, rolling stock, and scenery. I've got a nice river scene that needs doing. Still haven't patched and painted the fascia (that could jump the line considering it's potential impact to ease ratio)...I'm pretty good at making to-do lists, it's the next part that I get stuck on.
John
Hey John:
You are quite welcome.
Karl
Nice rainy hobby weekend...second in a row. I'm actually making some progress on Pendleton's Marine. Long way to go but it's been a while since I've built a kit, so I feel like I'm re-learning each step. Another great Foscale design, IMO. I got a bit careless with the big "painted on" sign but I think I recovered with my usual heavy handed weathering style. This time I was using a sponge rather than my usual go-to of drybrushing. The tear at the bottom will be hidden by a loading dock and typical clutter castings. I really like the sliding door and the other metal door on this wall. The kit is (unofficially) a background flat. Several of Doug's kits are quite linear but aren't technically "flats"...This will definitely not be viewable from the rear, so I'm going extra lazy on that wall.
John
Did I suddenly forget how to upload pics or is something fishy here?
Cuse, your image was more than 200k the (arbitrary) limit for images.
dave
Thanks Dave
John
Great to see activity on your workbench. Looking great.
Great signage John , looking forward to the rest.
John,
I agree, the signage looks very good, great job.
Tom ;D
That big wall looks good with the signs.....hope to see you on May 1. 8)
Nice work John.
Jerry
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 18, 2021, 08:13:09 AM
That big wall looks good with the signs.....hope to see you on May 1. 8)
Thanks John, Jerry, Jan, Tom, and Greg. It feels good to be back in the saddle...I got all the walls assembled and the roof cards in place. Still plenty to do (roofing, castings, loading dock, awnings, final dusting with powders, and then planting it.
Greg...what's May 1- SBG meetup?
Looking good John! I like the finish on the two main doors on the large wall. Especially the one on the left. Everything looks spot on though.
Quote from: cuse on April 18, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 18, 2021, 08:13:09 AM
That big wall looks good with the signs.....hope to see you on May 1. 8)
Thanks John, Jerry, Jan, Tom, and Greg. It feels good to be back in the saddle...I got all the walls assembled and the roof cards in place. Still plenty to do (roofing, castings, loading dock, awnings, final dusting with powders, and then planting it.
Greg...what's May 1- SBG meetup?
I believe Tom is setting that date as the grand re-opening day after closing to catch up on disposing of Jim's railroad stuff for Claire. If the date doesn't change, I hope to see all then. :)
John,
Great to see you back at the work bench.
The FOS Marine structure wall looks great !
Keep the photos coming .
Tommy
Pendleton Marine is a neat structure. Your version is taking shape nicely, John.
Cheers, Mark.
John, appears you are uploading in iPhone's proprietary RAW format, HEIC.
Try converting to jpg and trying again. The forum will display thumbnails and preserve the file size that way.
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- thanks guys. I appreciate the support...Pendleton Marine is basically done, although there are still quite a few castings that I'll ultimately finish and place around it once I get it planted. Photography is a funny thing...I still don't see that immense rust stain with my eyes but photo evidence doesn't lie-I'll tone it down. The heavily rusted tin roofs DO have a smattering of leaves on them but in the photos, it looks like Scottish moss roofs
Oh well, I'm pleased with the build. I honestly can't remember the last time I built a structure from beginning to end but there's been a lot of scenery in between so it may have been years.
*Thanks for the posting guidance. I apparently haven't kept up with my "upgrades"
What a great build! Love this model. Really nice job.
Only, I have to ask, where's the marine? ;)
Quote from: Keep it Rusty on April 24, 2021, 02:47:41 PM
What a great build! Love this model. Really nice job.
Only, I have to ask, where's the marine? ;)
Craig, Here's another photo for context...Pendleton Marine is about 50 HO scale yards from the harbor.
Also, I've attached photos of two very prominent corners of my layout with some rock outcroppings and scenery dropping off to the fascia. In my quest for real estate, I'm considering some smaller scenes suspended on pilings out over the rocks. I think it would add tremendous interest as the first thing you'd see walking into the room. I'm not planning on going too crazy on this, but I'm getting close to entering the "details, vehicles, rolling stock, and figures" era of my layout after I finish a couple more builds and a river scene... Can't wait!
John
Makes total sense now! Appreciate that wider view!
Also, are these the rock faces you prior mentioned to me?
Yes...kind of hard to really evaluate the scene from those pics (or any) but I could certainly configure some kind of intricate (goofy) stairway/wooden walkway to get to a suspended scene.
John
Great looking water scene. Love it.
Karl
Thanks Craig and Karl. Good to be back in the game again.
Pendleton's looks great. Your layout is incredible as well. Glad to see you working on it again.
Jeff
The layout is looking great John..... 8)
Thanks Jeff, and great job on the truck. I've got a bunch of those in my future.
Greg...Thanks and hope to see you soon. It's been a long time.
Hello John, your layout looks great, I really like the look of the rock faces in the shadowbox. Jeff
Thanks Jeff.
Here's another...
Layout looks great John! All the scenery flows into the structures really naturally. Looks great! What did you use for the water? Specifically the ripples on the water surface?
Thanks Steve. The water is simply multiple coats of Mod Podge over a smooth painted surface. Up close you can really see the bubbles...when the dust (literally settles), I'll give it a bath and another couple coats.
John
The layout looks wonderful. I recently had problems with bubbles using Mod Podge in the little pond in the Beach Farms scene on my layout. It was after multiple coats and I was really liking how it was going and then bubbles. I may have got it on too heavy but I'm not sure what caused the bubbles. Anyway, I decided to paint over the pond bubbles and all and start over with the Mod Podge - no more bubbles. You may want to give it a try in a small area and see if it works for you.
John,
The waterfront looks great. I used Mod Podge on my Suwannee River Lagoon area and didn't get any bubbles at all. However, I did apply it in very thin layers.
Tom ;D
Before -
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121172020.jpeg)
After -
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121101109.jpeg)
Thanks John and Tom...I may well have laid it on too thick to get more texture and, as a not great side effect. some bubbles.
One of my favorite RR. Just wonderful work.
Jerry
Thanks Jerry-I really appreciate that!
Our buddy, Dave Fugere, visited and shot a cool video of my layout. I think he did a better job of layout context than all of my words and pics could convey...https://youtu.be/BboKeMgyra4
John
Great video. Love the "doodlebug".
Jeff
Great little video, John.
Your layout looks fantastic. I love the scale of the train against those shear rock faces.
Cheers, Mark.
John,
Great video to go along with a great layout. Well done on both.
Tom ;D
Thanks for chiming in Jeff, Mark, and Tom. I appreciate the interest. I'm nuts about that little railcar Dave gave me...some tunnel portal excavation will be necessary before it can make a loop around the layout but that's a small price.
John
One of the reasons I love this RR. It's just spectacular!!
Jerry
Thank you Jerry
Enjoyed seeing your layout on the video.....looks like that little engine had a good head of steam built up. 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 17, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Enjoyed seeing your layout on the video.....looks like that little engine had a good head of steam built up. 8)
I thought you'd like that! ;D
John
Great layout and the video provides a great glimpse of it. Thanks!
Jim D
John
Nice little video of a great layout. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Jim and John,
Thanks very much. I didn't even know he was filming it but I'm sure glad he did
John
Back on the workbench finally...my first attempt at board by board construction of a tiny Sierra West Scale Models Woodcutter's Shack...a little bit bliss, a little bit psychosis
John
Good to see you back at it. I need to do the same.
Jeff
I look forward to seeing your progress John.
I'll be looking in John! Good to see you back at it!
Jerry
John
Good to see you back at it - I will be following along.
Nice to see these SW kits being built, I did the WoodCutters shack a while back, it was a real treat.
Thanks guys for the encouragement.
Here's where I'm at...next steps include the shed roof and painting all of the castings (there are a lot). This board by board construction is a challenge for an impatient guy (like me) who likes to knock out Bar Mills kits as quickly as the glue and paint can dry - for better or worse. I'm learning to take my time, finish a single step with intense focus, and walk away...this is real Samurai stuff for me and will, no doubt help me in all facets of my life (including the legit Samurai stuff I do...Aikido).
John
Good looking framing work John.....well done. 8)
Framing looks great. I'm sure it will turn out perfect like all your things do.
I thought for a minute you did something wrong so he was punishing you!! ;)
Jerry
Thanks for looking in Greg & Jerry. I've got my castings stuck to popsicle sticks, spray paint ready...just haven't had a minute...probably tomorrow evening if I can't sneak it in today.
John
OMG John's a bad a$$! ;D Now I know what may happen to me if I screw up one of the builds I do for him. :o
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 01, 2021, 07:29:46 AM
OMG John's a bad a$$! ;D Now I know what may happen to me if I screw up one of the builds I do for him. :o
;D ;D Aikido is "The Way of Peace"...I was probably helping him up.
Hope to see you & the gang soon Bob.
John
Here's the latest on my Woodcutter's Shack...the real heart of this kit is the roughly one million beautiful castings...That's all I've got left but they will change the entire appearance of this relatively humble little structure...got the roof on today. Very nice precut shingle strips. Castings are primed and, where appropriate, stuck on BBQ skewers for easier handling. Paint is on the workbench. Just about out of reasons to delay...
Looks great John! The castings will certainly make it pop when they're finished and in place. ;)
Looks great John.....looking forward to seeing the whole scene on the layout. 8)
That will be a great addition to your layout.
John
The build is looking great - now for the details.
Nice job on the structures.
Jeff
John,
Your build is looking great.
The castings will make it greater !
Tommy
Thanks for checking in guys. I do appreciate the interest.
Made some good progress on painting castings. Still have a few more but I do have enough to maybe plant some scenery and fasten down the structure to the homasote base. The whole mini scene will drop right back into the "hole in the world" that's been taunting me for quite a while now. You might notice I cut some HO scale firewood a while back...I didn't even bother trying to paint the Sierra West piles of wood (resin castings). The quality is really good but I can't imagine I'll be able to paint those to be as convincing as the easily found real thing...from out in the yard.
Some of the castings are still a little bright. I've been messing around with Brent's method of scraping off colored chalk and applying it with some alcohol (via brush). I've found it to be effective and I'll just dab a bit more on the bright spots to make them gross and rusty-the way I like my little world.
Looks great John.
Jerry
Great job on the castings.
Gotta get the ground cover secured and the whole thing relocated to the layout before the cat finds it.
Outstanding scene John.....well done. 8)
Thank you everyone who checked in. I got it "planted" on the layout and blended in with the scenery. I also did a little more weathering of the roof and decking with some chalks. Nothing like taking a few pics to show you the shiny shingles or other misses. (For those sharp-eyed viewers, I brushed the extra ground cover off of the workbench ;D ).
A couple more...
John you've done a beautiful job on this. I love the bits of wood and debris laying around. It looks very life like.
Thank you Curt...It better be accurate - I spent a lot of time splitting wood as a kid. My family owns a tree service in NY. I use to walk over to the yard after school and split wood for a few hours before dark to make a few bucks. I couldn't have been more than 12 and would Tom Sawyer a couple of my buddies to come along. We would drag the hydraulic log splitter out of the garage ourselves and roll wheels almost our own height onto the splitter deck. One of many examples of how miraculous it is that I have all of my limbs. There wasn't exactly a training program or any supervision. I sent a picture of the build to my brother and told him "This is what my kids think Manor Tree was like". He responded that our "Dad would never have allowed two men on a saw-what's wrong with those guys?". We grew up just North of the Bronx, but the three of us were farm labor. ;D
*sidenote: the yard and garages my father obtained for his trucks and supplies was a former coaling tower right alongside the (more recently) Metro North commuter line. At one point, when I was still very little, it was determined that the giant silos were a danger and had to come down. The demolition was an awesome sight and the garages (I guess former stalls for trucks to load or unload) were basically unscathed and that remains a bombproof garage of very thick concrete walls. Would have been a great place to train watch when steam still reigned. By the time I got there it was just electric powered commuter trains...not much to see but we spent a lot of time playing on those tracks and flinging ballast stones at whatever target we could find.
John - I guess it's safe to admit that my friends and I used to sneak over to your dad's place to play around and watch the trains. We would stop at the little store and get a soda and something to eat after school. Generally we were to chicken to cross the tacks due to the heavy traffic (early 1950s); go through the Pelhamdale tunnel. We were probably chased off by the Manusos at some point. Merry Christmas. Jim
What a beautiful scene John and a beautiful story to go along with it .
That came together wonderfully John! Super job on the whole build. The detail castings look terrific. Thumbs up all the way around. :D
Hey Cuse:
Just beautiful so far.
Karl
Jim, Jan, Bob, and Karl...thanks so much for your comments.
John wonderful modeling! Great scene!
One of my favorite RR to follow.
Jerry
Very nice, I swear I can smell sawdust.....
Thanks Gary & Jerry.
Today I'm working from home and will have some free time. My MR goal for the day is to (at least) decide what my next project will be. Among the contenders...
-build the one large remaining kit I have real estate set aside for...Bar Mills' Dovertown Wharf (FSM tribute)...probably more ambitious than I'm feeling right now
-patch, sand, and paint the fascia
-detail, seal, and pour the river...I've been vacillating on this one. Mod Podge is quick and neat, but Envirotex over a more "3D" bottom would really be superior...I'm a little concerned about possible leaks (!)
-unlimited rolling stock options including powering and detailing a railcar, swapping in Kadees, building some of the Sierra West Work train units, just weathering anything that rolls
-building a Bar Mills horse drawn carriage or any of several vehicle kits
...I've got many others (as we all do)...a layout is a lifetime of revisions & improvements-if we're lucky
John
Man, it's good to be back to the place where I initially met most of my existing MR friends initially, heard about and attended the best conventions and, basically, took my modeling to another level
good to be here-thanks to those who made it possible.
Two years, a new home, and a whole new layout that's just getting going.
Talk to you all soon.
Great to see you here again John..... :)
John,
Great to see all the SBGs here as well.
Tom
Quote...and a whole new layout that's just getting going...
Exciting, John!
Looking forward to you catching us up.
Cheers, Mark.
So...I'm trying to stoke the creative fires again (Happy New Year)...I did some thinking and just screwed a few vertical 1x2's to help give a sense of the verticality I hope for. I'm planning on using the Bragdon rock making system extensively and these posts and some additional formers, when the time comes, will support the initial foam/mesh landscape base that the castings and other scenery will be attached to.
The pictures are from 3 of the corners, just to give some context of the layout and the dramatic scenery I'm shooting for.
Oh yeah...I know we all love pics
John
Great to see you back at it. I will be watching with great interest. And yes, we love pictures.
:) Nice pictures John!
We need to get together one of these days so you can tell me about your adventures at the Narrow Gauge Convention.
John,
Happy to see your creative juices flowing again. Now that you are close we all need to get together and hear of your adventure.
The new layout is looking very interesting.
Tom
Looks great John, glad to see you making progress. 8)
Great progress John. Are you building it similar to your last layout?
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 08, 2024, 02:27:13 PMGreat progress John. Are you building it similar to your last layout?
Absolutely nothing like it...I have a 5' x 5' space, so it won't be linear with a backdrop like the last...this one is looking to be much more "cartoonish" for lack of a better word...dramatic scenes, lots of very vertical scenery, 3 independent loops with trains popping in and out of tunnels and across precarious bridges no engineer would put their name on...long way to go, obviously, but I plan to have a couple of peaks over 6' above the floor and very controlled viewing angles on all 4 sides to make it seem larger...nothing like I've done before...I guess I still haven't judging by the pics. ;D
QuoteAbsolutely nothing like it...I have a 5' x 5' space, so it won't be linear with a backdrop like the last...this one is looking to be much more "cartoonish" for lack of a better word...dramatic scenes, lots of very vertical scenery, 3 independent loops with trains popping in and out of tunnels and across precarious bridges no engineer would put their name on...long way to go, obviously, but I plan to have a couple of peaks over 6' above the floor and very controlled viewing angles on all 4 sides to make it seem larger...nothing like I've done before...I guess I still haven't judging by the pics. ;D
Sounds facinating!
Cheers, Mark.
Thanks Mark, your modeling is certainly an inspiration. I've never been as "multi-level" or multi-grade as I'm trying to be this time. I love the way you've incorporated steep roads with buildings set on angled foundations, etc to accommodate...just adds so much more interest and you've nailed it.
OK...I came around to the lightning-bolt realization that the design and overall "feel" of the new layout wasn't moving me. I think it's partly due to my visit to Jim Gray's incredible layout during the NNGC in Colorado last year. His scenery dwarfs the trains and structures...it's the opposite of the "caricaturish" busy elements I thought would be fun to try.
So, I return to more of a "simple track - complex scenery" vibe...I think I may have been trying to fit in everything I wanted and my beautiful structures on hand to an unrealistic degree. I removed the entire middle level of track and chopped into the upper loop and am converting it to a point-to-point branch that will spiral down and around the mountain precariously - connecting a mine at the highest point of the layout to a remote wharf scene directly influenced (if not blatantly stolen ;) ) from Dick Patterson's Dolly Varden layout. I've already purchased a Circuitron reversing circuit - so I can just let it go, which is my primary preference for operations. I also took advantage of family visiting from out of town, including 3 strong guys, to coordinate "lift-sliding" my entire layout over about a foot, so I could extend the branchline out of the 5x5 square and onto a shelf along the wall.
I also went on a bit of a goose chase today to find Homasote. My previous source (a lumber yard in Winter Park) is gone but I found a yard in Downtown Orlando that carries it. When I called, they made a point of telling me that they wouldn't do more than 1 cut >:( . I told them I'd pay for cuts, if necessary, but was told that wasn't possible :-X which is, of course, an utterly ridiculous policy-if you have any interest in pleasing customers. Anyway, I just decided that I'd have the sheet cut horizontally and that I'd just have to rely on a couple of wasteful foot stomps to get the 2 x 8 lengths to fit in my Tesla...once I got there the guy at the counter said "no problem" regarding more than one cut and all is well.
Big progress soon. I'll post pics and maybe a track plan (once I sketch one) so this makes some sense.
I'm looking forward to seeing where your new direction takes you.
Productive Sunday for me.
-basically completed all of the benchwork for the extension along the wall
-backdrop showed up ...needs to be cut and hung. I plan to put it up a bit and build "towering" ::) rock walls up to meet it.
-removed the entire middle track level, which was a very toylike figure 8
-chopped the upper loop into a winding branchlike with a steep grade down to the expansion area where it will terminate onto a coal bunker to load barges. There will be a mine at the other end and some sort of development halfway down...still deciding if that will be another mine, engine service, or some kind of industry, or just a tiny outpost...fighting the urges to fill it with my existing buildings and maintain the whole "way out in the mountains" vibe of the branchline
*Reversing Circuit (for the branch) arrives today...no rush to install that, but looking forward to it once tracks are finalized
*The expansion will keep me in shape (limit my own expansion?) as the working aisle is only about 21"...so far so good. It's actually not that critical for access beyond initial construction and it's not very deep.
I look forward to seeing your progress.
Looks like your making headway. Hope you work faster than I do. :)
Jeff
Great to see you in the train room! I like what you are doing with the changes. I will be watching your progress.
Looks like your off to a great start. I'll be following along as usual.
Jerry
Looking good, Cuse.
Looks like you have some nice vertical displacement in the corner there.
Cheers, Mark.
Thanks for checking in guys...Jeff, I work fast but very infrequently ;D
Wow John.....a whole new direction, neat. 8)
Yep...have to come see it, now that I'm just up Markham Woods Rd from you
Quote from: cuse on February 27, 2024, 12:42:27 PMYep...have to come see it, now that I'm just up Markham Woods Rd from you
Sounds like a plan.....we'll have to arrange a time. :)