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Title: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 05:37:43 PM
The Judge, AKA: the A&S RR Ticket Agent, made a request to the A&S Paint Shop to paint the Chesapeake & Ohio H-5 articulated 2-6-6-2 loco. This H-5 is the USRA version.

This loco is a Key import made by Samhongsa. This particular model was released in 1981 at a retail cost of $557.00 On the current secondary brass market they can sell anywhere from $500.00 to 850.00. Only 75 of this model were made and imported. Key also imported 35 H-4 and 130 H-6 versions.

For this thread, my plan is to show the before and after photos and address any issues that come up. I see a couple issues already which I'll get to when the time is right.

We installed TCS DCC WOW sound and it will have to be removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165238.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165250.jpeg)


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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 05:38:20 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165303.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165314.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165324.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165337.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 05:39:38 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165348.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210420165359.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Judge on April 21, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
This is one of my favorite locos.  The H-5 was of USRA design and had drivers a little larger than the more famous H-6, the last of which is in the B&O Museum in Baltimore.  This old hog could really pull those coal hoppers up and down the mountains.  The painted, finished model ought to be an outstanding addition to the A&S as another example of a Central Florida railroad using lease agreements to obtain needed steam power to lug heavy trains up the Ovalix.  Four miles an hour, five miles an hour, who cares!  Greg will have to keep his hands off of this one!
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 05:59:28 PM
Quote from: Judge on April 21, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
This is one of my favorite locos.   Greg will have to keep his hands off of this one!



Judge,

As much as we love and respect Greg's throttle abilities, he won't be able to sit in the engineer's seat. It will require great patience to run this one at notch 1 or 2 up the Ovalix.

Just saying.

Tom  ;D


Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on April 21, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
What's with Bill's hands off policy with this and the B&O???  :o
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 21, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
What's with Bill's hands off policy with this and the B&O???  :o


Greg,

Don't jump out of the saddle here. The Judge was referring to the articulated loco and not the B&O. You can run the B&O all the way up to 20.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on April 22, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 21, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
What's with Bill's hands off policy with this and the B&O???  :o


Greg,

Don't jump out of the saddle here. The Judge was referring to the articulated loco and not the B&O. You can run the B&O all the way up to 20.

Tom   ;D


Oh boy.....fun fun fun till dad took the T-Bird away..... ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: tct855 on April 22, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 22, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 21, 2020, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 21, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
What's with Bill's hands off policy with this and the B&O???  :o


Greg,

Don't jump out of the saddle here. The Judge was referring to the articulated loco and not the B&O. You can run the B&O all the way up to 20.

Tom   ;D


Oh boy.....fun fun fun till dad took the T-Bird away..... ;D




Lol... 👍  :o
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Judge on April 22, 2020, 04:00:22 PM
C&O H-5 2-6-6-2.

A bit of railroad lore & trivia - The C&O H-4 was the design used by the government planners when the USRA 2-6-6-2 was designed.  It became the H-5.  The H-5 was slightly heavier than the more famous H-6.  The H-5's were numbered 1520-1599.  Some were manufactured by Baldwin and some by Alco.  All of the H-5's were manufactured in 1919.  They had boiler pressure of 200psi and exerted 75,650 tractive effort when running compound.  Cylinder horsepower was 2636.  Baker valve gear drove 59" drivers.  (H-6 had 561/4" drivers.)  These engines were very large for the time and were used hauling coal in the mountains of Virginia and West Virginia.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
Today I spent several hours taking the H-5 apart so the parts can be cleaned in preparation for painting.

This was a "tricksie" little sucker to get apart. I'll share some of the fun.

I first needed to remove the front engine. Both the front and rear engines are connected to the motor by way of two universal joints and two gear boxes.

The ends of the universal joints are soldered so the T shaft won't come out while the loco is running. Photo below -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420155912.jpeg)

Each end has a very small set screw that tightens against the shaft. Photo below -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420155924.jpeg)

I only loosened the set crew to free the end from the shaft. Once removed, I tightened the set screw so I doesn't fall out and get lost.

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420155938.jpeg)



I then removed the two screws that hold the cab end of the boiler section on the frame.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160009.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 04:34:13 PM
I then removed these two screws from the front of the rear engine so the main boiler and cab could be removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160025.jpeg)

The next step in removing the boiler is to carefully removed it so the two steam pipes aren't bent during the removal. These two pipes fit into the front of the rear engine steam chest.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160039.jpeg)

More in a few. I need a Diet Pepsi.

Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 05:10:16 PM
It appears to me the engineer and fireman seats are to far forward. However, when looking at them in relation to the window arm rests, they are centered. When cab crew are installed, I'll need to cut the off at the waist.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160052.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160107.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 05:14:30 PM
Fortunately this model has a removable cab section. The cab is held with four screws, two in the rear and two in front of the cab support.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160120.jpeg)

The cab can now be painted separately from the boiler and back head details.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160741.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 05:18:57 PM
The H-5 has very nice details on the back head and will paint and detail out very well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160751.jpeg)

The left cab side sun visor is missing so I'll need to make one and solder it in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160813.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 05:22:24 PM
Counting the screws, springs, side and main rods and their respective parts along with the brass, there are 98 parts in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160826.jpeg)

Only 11 parts in this next photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420160840.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2020, 05:24:31 PM
The last to be removed was the TCS WOW sound decoder from the tender.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240420161001.jpeg)

When the sun, if ever, comes out once again, I'll soak the parts in Acetone to remove oil and grease.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jerryrbeach on April 24, 2020, 06:14:04 PM

Tom,


As usual I'm following along.  I love how thorough you make the explanation of each step.  I'll never work on one of these engines, still I learn something from each of your threads.  Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Dennis Bourey on April 24, 2020, 09:43:40 PM
Tom, You got some good eye's there sir....Dennis
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: tct855 on April 25, 2020, 02:32:27 AM
ACL 1504,
              Nice model (great bones).  I'll be riveted to my seat on this build.  One note first.  I noticed you mentioned earlier you had a bugger of a time taking the lead set of drivers/u-joint a part.  I learned many years ago while disassembly with my first similar model that there's no need to dig and find all those hidden screws holding everything together.

I discovered (by accident really) with a stiff drink in hand, (while taking a stress relief break) one may have a tendency to drop said model from a workbench height of approximately 32" to any floor surface.  This by the laws of gravity will always solve any problem one may have with disassembly of many tiny parts, screws, hidden u-joints etc.

Poof and voila'. All's that's left is the simple task of weeks of finding lightening speed parts and no need to every worry about any loose solder joints, this process is a sure way to locate and separate any loose solder points in a split second.

Les we forget the months of aspirin eating fun challenges of rebuilding a less than new model with several extra dollars spent supporting your local hobby shop for hard to find parts.  Boy-oh-boy what fun this hobby can bring with just a little thoughtlessness and quick temper in building something one should have spent years learning first.

I see why you love this hobby so much my friend, #MeeToo! my friend Meetoo!  :o  Love the pictorial sir.  Keep up the great work.  KP-out...
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Raymo on April 25, 2020, 07:24:50 AM
Quote from: Judge on April 21, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
This is one of my favorite locos.  The H-5 was of USRA design and had drivers a little larger than the more famous H-6, the last of which is in the B&O Museum in Baltimore.  This old hog could really pull those coal hoppers up and down the mountains.  The painted, finished model ought to be an outstanding addition to the A&S as another example of a Central Florida railroad using lease agreements to obtain needed steam power to lug heavy trains up the Ovalix.  Four miles an hour, five miles an hour, who cares!  Greg will have to keep his hands off of this one!
;D ;D ;D This made me chuckle..
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on April 25, 2020, 11:24:23 AM
Hey Tom:

Can't wait to see this one finished.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: RWL on April 27, 2020, 08:51:49 AM

A removable cab, how nice. Detailed cab interiors really place a great paint job into the category of an exceptional paint job. The light Apple Green that ALCO used will set the engine off nicely. Good step by step again Tom.


Bob
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on April 24, 2020, 06:14:04 PM

Tom,


As usual I'm following along.  I love how thorough you make the explanation of each step.  I'll never work on one of these engines, still I learn something from each of your threads.  Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.


Jerry,

Thanks for following along. I try to explain as I go. I sometimes forget that it seems second nature to me but not so to others. I enjoy sharing and as I mentioned, it keeps me focused on the task and thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on April 24, 2020, 09:43:40 PM
Tom, You got some good eye's there sir....Dennis


Dennis,

Thanks for checking in. My Opti-Visor with a #5 lens works wonders.  8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: tct855 on April 25, 2020, 02:32:27 AM
ACL 1504,
              Nice model (great bones).  I'll be riveted to my seat on this build.  One note first.  I noticed you mentioned earlier you had a bugger of a time taking the lead set of drivers/u-joint a part.  I learned many years ago while disassembly with my first similar model that there's no need to dig and find all those hidden screws holding everything together.

I discovered (by accident really) with a stiff drink in hand, (while taking a stress relief break) one may have a tendency to drop said model from a workbench height of approximately 32" to any floor surface.  This by the laws of gravity will always solve any problem one may have with disassembly of many tiny parts, screws, hidden u-joints etc.

Poof and voila'. All's that's left is the simple task of weeks of finding lightening speed parts and no need to every worry about any loose solder joints, this process is a sure way to locate and separate any loose solder points in a split second.

Les we forget the months of aspirin eating fun challenges of rebuilding a less than new model with several extra dollars spent supporting your local hobby shop for hard to find parts.  Boy-oh-boy what fun this hobby can bring with just a little thoughtlessness and quick temper in building something one should have spent years learning first.

I see why you love this hobby so much my friend, #MeeToo! my friend Meetoo!  :o  Love the pictorial sir.  Keep up the great work.  KP-out...


Thom,

The scary thing is I understood everything you said. And, I don't drink. I appreciate you following with drink in hand and for the MeToo moment.

As you say, T out!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: Raymo on April 25, 2020, 07:24:50 AM
Quote from: Judge on April 21, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
This is one of my favorite locos.  The H-5 was of USRA design and had drivers a little larger than the more famous H-6, the last of which is in the B&O Museum in Baltimore.  This old hog could really pull those coal hoppers up and down the mountains.  The painted, finished model ought to be an outstanding addition to the A&S as another example of a Central Florida railroad using lease agreements to obtain needed steam power to lug heavy trains up the Ovalix.  Four miles an hour, five miles an hour, who cares!  Greg will have to keep his hands off of this one!
;D ;D ;D This made me chuckle..


Yepper, I agree.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 25, 2020, 11:24:23 AM
Hey Tom:

Can't wait to see this one finished.

Karl
\


Karl,

Thanks, I can't wait either. Then I can move on to the next brass painting.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:12:05 PM
Quote from: RWL on April 27, 2020, 08:51:49 AM

A removable cab, how nice. Detailed cab interiors really place a great paint job into the category of an exceptional paint job. The light Apple Green that ALCO used will set the engine off nicely. Good step by step again Tom.


Bob

Bob,

I appreciate you stopping by. I've only known a few PFM brass models with removable cabs. This one would have been a difficult cab interior painting without it being removable.

You are one step ahead of me as that is exactly what I'll be doing, painting the cab interior a cab green I mixed a few years ago. Of course that also means an interior cab light.

Again, thank you.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
Today I spent several hours in the paint shop.  Most of the larger parts are now painted and the drivers and boiler are next.

I needed to make a cab shade for the left side prior to painting it. I used a piece of K&S brass stock to make the shade. The brass stock is 1/4" side and .5mm thick. The photo makes the width look wider.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420164946.jpeg)

I scribed a center line as a guide and used a Dremel cut off disk for the initial cut.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420172121.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:26:37 PM
I used the Dremel as a cutting tool and file. When I got the width I wanted, I cut off the part and then trimmed it to the correct length.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420165009.jpeg)

Here is the factory installed cab shade.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420165024.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2020, 05:33:02 PM

Using my Micro Mini Torch, I very lightly tinned one side/edge of the new shade and the side of the cab.
I used super thin CAA (super glue) glue and tacked each end to hold the shade in place.

I then very quickly hit the area with the torch to melt the tinned solder. Easy peasy!

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420165148.jpeg)

New shade in place for the fireman.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270420165136.jpeg)

Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jerryrbeach on April 27, 2020, 06:53:28 PM

"Easy peasy!"


Seriously, Tom?  If I tried to do that I'd have a cab kit to try to re-build, operative word here being "try".
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2020, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on April 27, 2020, 06:53:28 PM

"Easy peasy!"


Seriously, Tom?  If I tried to do that I'd have a cab kit to try to re-build, operative word here being "try".


Jerry,

Well, I should have said easy peasy for me since I've done this a time or two. I suppose I felt as you do at one time. Not sure I'd even try this 30 years ago. Thanks for following along.  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2020, 06:56:45 PM
I got the frame and drivers painted and partially reassembled. I've done a short video you can view later in the thread.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300420183038.jpeg)

I also painted the cab interior. I mixed some Scalecoat White and Southern Green for the interior color. I've used this color on other cab interiors.

There is some paint bleed over around the windows but this will be covered when the window frames are painted red.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300420183049.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2020, 06:57:49 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300420183102.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300420183113.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2020, 07:01:18 PM
I spent six hours today getting all the parts back and running smoothly.

Sometimes I think I should just paint the side rods, main rods and all the moving parts without taking them all apart. I have know some who have done this and it also shows in the shoddy paint job. I was just thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9rFkV6Uuo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9rFkV6Uuo)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on April 30, 2020, 07:37:44 PM
Wow.  Smooth and quiet, especially considering all those moving parts.  Did you clean this unpainted brass with acetone as well? Do you set it in an acetone bath?  How long? 

Jeff
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on May 01, 2020, 09:07:04 AM
Neato..... ;)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Jim Donovan on May 01, 2020, 10:05:26 AM
What a beautiful engine and really enjoy watching you make it even better. You take patience to a new level. Thanks to the Judge for the background information.

Jim
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: NKP768 on May 01, 2020, 10:18:40 AM
Hey Tom,
Another great looking job - I had a custom painter give me a tip on the side rods. Coat them with PBL's liquid graphite. The wear/ contact surfaces will remove the coating through normal operation and the resulting patina resembles that over-the-road grime that accumulates on the rods. The side benefit is that it gives the rods a degree of lubrication with no messy oil.
Doug
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2020, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on April 30, 2020, 07:37:44 PM
Wow.  Smooth and quiet, especially considering all those moving parts.  Did you clean this unpainted brass with acetone as well? Do you set it in an acetone bath?  How long? 

Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for looking in. Yes, all the parts were cleaned in an Acetone bath. I have an old clean glass bread baking dish. No more the 10 minutes. That is plenty of time for the Acetone to remove the clear coat on the brass.

The dish is 9 L X 5 W X 3.5  deep. After the bath I wash/rinse all parts in warm soapy water.

Tom  ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010520120136.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2020, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 01, 2020, 09:07:04 AM
Neato..... ;)


Yepper, and smooth!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2020, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on May 01, 2020, 10:05:26 AM
What a beautiful engine and really enjoy watching you make it even better. You take patience to a new level. Thanks to the Judge for the background information.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you for the kind compliment. Patience is a requirement to do this. Definitely can't rush when doing this. The Judge is our Ticket Agent and Historian.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2020, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 01, 2020, 10:18:40 AM
Hey Tom,
Another great looking job - I had a custom painter give me a tip on the side rods. Coat them with PBL's liquid graphite. The wear/ contact surfaces will remove the coating through normal operation and the resulting patina resembles that over-the-road grime that accumulates on the rods. The side benefit is that it gives the rods a degree of lubrication with no messy oil.
Doug


Doug,

Thanks very much. In the past I've sprayed on a flat coat on the side rods. Never heard of PBL's liquid graphite but will look into it. I have two of PBL's Analog DC Foreground Sound Systems. I'll give them a call. Thanks for the info.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: tct855 on May 02, 2020, 01:38:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 01, 2020, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on April 30, 2020, 07:37:44 PM
Wow.  Smooth and quiet, especially considering all those moving parts.  Did you clean this unpainted brass with acetone as well? Do you set it in an acetone bath?  How long? 

Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for looking in. Yes, all the parts were cleaned in an Acetone bath. I have an old clean glass bread baking dish. No more the 10 minutes. That is plenty of time for the Acetone to remove the clear coat on the brass.

The dish is 9 L X 5 W X 3.5  deep. After the bath I wash/rinse all parts in warm soapy water.

Tom  ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010520120136.jpeg)







ACL 1504,
             Wow! That acetone really cleans, it cleaned that H-5 2-6-6-2 in to a 2-10-2 and even added some air tanks on top!  Man, where do i get some of that cleaner you have?  :o  KP-out...
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2020, 07:47:02 AM
KPI,

You are one funny guy. Sorry, but that Acetone is on longer sold. There is one out that will change a DT&IR into a 0-2-0 if interested.   8) 8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: BandOGuy on May 02, 2020, 10:29:42 AM

I'm even more confused than usual!
You're telling us a watched 2-10-2 in acetone never boils?
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on May 02, 2020, 11:21:52 AM
Quote from: tct855 on May 02, 2020, 01:38:22 AM


ACL 1504,
             Wow! That acetone really cleans, it cleaned that H-5 2-6-6-2 in to a 2-10-2 and even added some air tanks on top!  Man, where do i get some of that cleaner you have?  :o  KP-out...


KP.....The laws of physics, nature, the universe and parallel dimensions do not apply in Tom's train shed.  ::)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 02, 2020, 10:29:42 AM

I'm even more confused than usual!
You're telling us a watched 2-10-2 in acetone never boils?


Chip,

As a matter of fact, it doesn't boil!  It may melt but never boil.  8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 02, 2020, 11:21:52 AM


KP.....The laws of physics, nature, the universe and parallel dimensions do not apply in Tom's train shed.  ::)

Greg,


No, they most certainly don't! Just saying.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 05:52:30 PM
Update on the H-5.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520174820.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520174831.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 05:53:10 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520174904.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 01, 2020, 10:18:40 AM
Hey Tom,
Another great looking job - I had a custom painter give me a tip on the side rods. Coat them with PBL's liquid graphite. The wear/ contact surfaces will remove the coating through normal operation and the resulting patina resembles that over-the-road grime that accumulates on the rods. The side benefit is that it gives the rods a degree of lubrication with no messy oil.
Doug


Doug,

I wanted to do a short followup to your post and comment about PBL's Liquid Graphite.

I  did look into the product and reviewed PBL's information on this product and made the decision not to use it.

The liquid graphite is actually a dry lubricant paint called Neolube. They say when dry it leaves the look of polished steel. I disagree. It looks to me to be more like dark graphite.

In the past, I've used Scalecoat Flat to dull the brightness of the chrome plated rods on a steam loco. The flat finish does give more of a polished steel look.

The next two photos were taken from the PBL site. This is not a critique of the product, just an honest observation.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520175327.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520175338.jpeg)

Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Rollin on May 10, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
I keep staring at the backhead on that boiler...it looks so good I expect the fire doors to swing open so I can see the flames. Beautiful work, Tom
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: sdrees on May 10, 2020, 10:53:04 PM
And Tom you get a WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for your paint job.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 11, 2020, 07:57:31 AM
Great job on the interior, and overall of course as well. 


Jeff
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: NKP768 on May 11, 2020, 09:46:59 AM
Hi Tom,
Nice job on the backhead and cab lighting - a lot going on in a 1.5 x 1.5 inch square area...I'm in agreement on the your opinion of the Neo Lube  - it is I guess an "acquired taste".
Doug
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: Rollin on May 10, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
I keep staring at the backhead on that boiler...it looks so good I expect the fire doors to swing open so I can see the flames. Beautiful work, Tom


Rollin,

Good to see you and thanks for the nice compliment. It's much more interesting to have a loco you can add some painting details to the cab interior. Not all brass locos have this option.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: sdrees on May 10, 2020, 10:53:04 PM
And Tom you get a WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for your paint job.


Steve,

Thank you, very much appreciate the nice compliment and support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 11, 2020, 07:57:31 AM
Great job on the interior, and overall of course as well. 


Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for stopping by and posting your kind support on the model. I appreciate you looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 11, 2020, 09:46:59 AM
Hi Tom,
Nice job on the backhead and cab lighting - a lot going on in a 1.5 x 1.5 inch square area...I'm in agreement on the your opinion of the Neo Lube  - it is I guess an "acquired taste".
Doug


Doug,

Thank you as well for the kind words on the cab interior. Also, the Neolube is just to dark.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:13:40 PM
Yesterday we were discussing the Neolube dry lubricant paint. I commented that just spraying the side and main rods with a flat finish will give a better look of polished steel.

The side rods on a brass models and others as well are bright chrome looking.

In the photos below you can, hopefully, see the different in stock and flat finish rods. I air brushed the side rods on the B&O 2-8-0 E-27 loco with Scalecoat Flat Finish. The difference is much more noticeable in person.

If nothing else, the flat removes the shine.

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145009.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145021.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:50:15 PM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful paint job as always.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:50:15 PM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful paint job as always.

Karl

Karl,

Thank you as always.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 05:03:25 PM
Hey Tom:

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:00:17 AM
I like adding extra details to brass locos I paint and sound for the A&S RR. Ever so often my planning is less than what I should have or could have done. In this case, after the tender was painted and decaled, I decided to add a brass coal pusher to the tender slope. A coal pusher is nothing more than a steam powered ram that pushes the coal forward in the tender.

I could have just used some super glue and glued the ram in place. However, I wanted something more permanent with holding power. I decided to solder the ram on the tender slope.

I'm using a Cal-Scale Coal Pusher #CP-255.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181031.jpeg)

Here is how it looks on the tender.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181043.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:02:03 AM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181054.jpeg)

I made a mark in the center of the tender.

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:04:19 AM
The ram has two brass tabs on the rear.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181116.jpeg)

Using a Dremel cut off disc, the top tab was removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181125.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:08:53 AM
I then measured the distance from the top of the slope to the bottom tab and drilled a hole in the tender slope. I used an Acetone soaked Q-tip and removed the paint where the ram will be soldered.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181136.jpeg)

I then used a Dremel circular wire brush to clean and polish the brass for soldering. The ram was then centered on the slope with the bottom tab holding it in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181146.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:16:29 AM
i cut two 1/16" pieces of Tix solder. I used a small brush to add some liquid solder flux to both sides of the ram and tender slope. The two pieces of solder were then placed on each side of the ram/coal pusher.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181158.jpeg)

I used the small Micro Torch from Micro-Mark to solder the ram in place. I got the flame on the torch to a fine blue point and quickly hit it on both sides of the ram.

As you can see by carefully soldering the part to the tender, the paint wasn't ruined by the torch.

It also looks like I had to much liquid flux to the tender. The dry flux will be covered by the coal load.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160520181210.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:16:47 AM
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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 01:09:43 PM
Nice addition to the tender (which looks great by the way).   :D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 17, 2020, 04:46:20 PM

Tom,


The coal pusher is a nice detail.  I'm a little surprised that it wasn't done when the engine was manufactured.  Also, great tip on using flat coat on the side rods.  That applies to almost every model steam engine, brass, cast, or plastic.  I'll be borrowing that one. ;D ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 01:09:43 PM
Nice addition to the tender (which looks great by the way).   :D

Bob,

Thanks very much. Appreciate you following along on this one.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:09:17 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on May 17, 2020, 04:46:20 PM

Tom,


The coal pusher is a nice detail.  I'm a little surprised that it wasn't done when the engine was manufactured.  Also, great tip on using flat coat on the side rods.  That applies to almost every model steam engine, brass, cast, or plastic.  I'll be borrowing that one. ;D ;D


Jerry,

Appreciate the comment. Some brass importers did but most didn't. What's surprising to me is some of the Key and PFM brass had them and some didn't. I have no idea how they chose which ones to add the coal pusher to.

I've used the flat on most of all my brass locos, it does remove the shine and glare. Glad you noted the tip.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Judge on May 18, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
Jerry -  I have the book C&O Power by Staufer and it contains a builder's photo of an H-5.   There is no coal pusher on the tender in the builder's photo.  Staufer says that the H-5's were built without stokers.  That doesn't make sense to me.  The H-5's were large engines for their day and it would make sense for stokers to be included. Stokers became common on large engines after 1909.  The Key model Tom is painting has a stoker on the backhead.  I think Staufer was generalizing about the stokers.  We know that the USRA 4-6-2's and 2-8-2's were built without stokers and they had coal pushers.  So, my theory is the USRA engines that were built without stokers had coal pushers.  This is only my theory so if anyone knows different, please set me straight.

Now about the Atlantic & Southern.  Our railroad is a first-class operation.  When the A&S acquired our H-5, the A&S  Superintendent of Maintenance, Will Fixer, located a coal pusher in the storage room behind the roundhouse and decided to install it on the H-5.  The idea was to give the fireman a little extra help managing the fire on the big engine. There is a prototype for everything. 

Speaking of stokers, imagine being a fireman on a Mikado or a K4s Pacific without a stoker.  It must have been really hot, back-breaking work to shovel 20 tons of coal or more every day.  And it only took ten or fifteen years to get promoted to engineer.  I guess labor was cheaper than investing in a stoker.


Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on May 18, 2020, 04:45:37 PM
Not my kind of job..... ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2020, 09:27:35 AM
Here is a builder's photo of the USRA version of the articulated H-5 loco.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190520092532.jpeg)

Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 19, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 18, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
Jerry -  I have the book C&O Power by Staufer and it contains a builder's photo of an H-5.   There is no coal pusher on the tender in the builder's photo.  Staufer says that the H-5's were built without stokers.  That doesn't make sense to me.  The H-5's were large engines for their day and it would make sense for stokers to be included. Stokers became common on large engines after 1909.  The Key model Tom is painting has a stoker on the backhead.  I think Staufer was generalizing about the stokers.  We know that the USRA 4-6-2's and 2-8-2's were built without stokers and they had coal pushers.  So, my theory is the USRA engines that were built without stokers had coal pushers.  This is only my theory so if anyone knows different, please set me straight.

Now about the Atlantic & Southern.  Our railroad is a first-class operation.  When the A&S acquired our H-5, the A&S  Superintendent of Maintenance, Will Fixer, located a coal pusher in the storage room behind the roundhouse and decided to install it on the H-5.  The idea was to give the fireman a little extra help managing the fire on the big engine. There is a prototype for everything. 

Speaking of stokers, imagine being a fireman on a Mikado or a K4s Pacific without a stoker.  It must have been really hot, back-breaking work to shovel 20 tons of coal or more every day.  And it only took ten or fifteen years to get promoted to engineer.  I guess labor was cheaper than investing in a stoker.



Judge,


No coal pushers from the factory explains the probable reason the importer omitted one from the model.  Of course, back in the day men were really men.  Firing a Mike or Pacific had to be child's play compared to firing a 2-10-2 Bullmoose on the Ontario & Western.  They were used as both head end power and pushers to get the coal drags up the grade out of Scranton. 
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on May 20, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
Hey Tom;

Looks just great.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Jerry on May 20, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
Tom first time here.


You do some beautiful work in this field to.


Jerry
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 20, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
Hey Tom;

Looks just great.

Karl

Karl,

Thanks very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2020, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Jerry on May 20, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
Tom first time here.


You do some beautiful work in this field to.


Jerry

Jerry,

Thanks for stopping by and checking out the painting and detailing. I appreciate the support. Painting brass is something I enjoy especially now that I'm coming to an end and getting all the brass painted.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
Not sure why but I forgot to post these last two photos prior to the sound installing.

Here is a look at the coal pusher on the tender. I added the curved exhaust pipe and then painted it to match the tender. Red marker jewels were installed on the tender marker lights.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180520140642.jpeg)

White jewels were added to the front markers.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180520140654.jpeg)

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Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2020, 11:46:34 AM
The one thing I don't like about railroad modeling is the wiring. Be it the layout or installing sound in the locos. Yes, I can do it but I'm not all that confident about it.

I've got the TCS WOW DCC decoder wired for the three lights. I have 470 watt resistors soldered to the function wires. The white is for the headlight, green is for the cab light and the yellow is for the tender light. The blue wire is the common (also the Positive) for the three I just mentioned.

The black wire lead on the LEDs go to the corresponding colors while the red (with resistors)  all go to the blue wire.

The red wire attached to the tender is the ground wire for tender power pickup. The black wire from the decoder goes to the loco ground.

The gray and orange wires go to the motor.

Not shown are the two purple wires to the speaker. The speaker wires come out of the other end of the decoder as does the KA (keep alive).

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200520113042.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 20, 2020, 12:03:24 PM
Tom,
Nice modeling sir !!!
Tommy
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Judge on May 20, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
The C&O H-5 is coming along nicely.  I am sure it will haul 20+coal hoppers up the 1 percent grade of the Ovalix.  A fine job by the A&S master mechanic!  WOW Sound has a low single chime Southern RR whistle that will top off the sight and sound of this beautiful engine.  These engines were not retired until 1952.  That fits the A&S time frame of 1950-1951. 

BTW, Staufer's book, C&O Power, contains a photo of the backhead of an H-1.  No stoker on that beast.  Of course, it was not unusual for the railroads to add stokers sometimes years after delivery.  Only one H-1 was built (1909).  Twenty-four more were ordered from ALCO (1910), but because they had minor changes, they were classified as H-2's.  The minor changes included Schmidt superheaters and " an apparatus which permitted the admission of high-pressure steam to the front cylinders when starting and operating at speeds up to 12 mph."  The H-4 was the model the USRA used as the prototype for the government designed 2-6-6-2's.  The H-5 (20 of them were acquired in 1919) were like the H-4's but they were slightly heavier and had larger drivers. 
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on May 20, 2020, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 20, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
....." an apparatus which permitted the admission of high-pressure steam to the front cylinders when starting and operating at speeds up to 12 mph."


Hey Bill.....maybe if Tom added some apparatus to the rear cylinders it could get up to 16 mph..... ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2020, 03:46:47 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on May 20, 2020, 12:03:24 PM
Tom,
Nice modeling sir !!!
Tommy


Tommy,

Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by for a look. This one has been a challenge and a lot of fun, sort of.  ???

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2020, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 20, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
The C&O H-5 is coming along nicely.  I am sure it will haul 20+coal hoppers up the 1 percent grade of the Ovalix.  A fine job by the A&S master mechanic!  WOW Sound has a low single chime Southern RR whistle that will top off the sight and sound of this beautiful engine.  These engines were not retired until 1952.  That fits the A&S time frame of 1950-1951. 


Judge Bill,

Thank you for the support. With the added weight is should pull the 20+ up the Ovalix from Sandlando to Summit.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2020, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2020, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 20, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
....." an apparatus which permitted the admission of high-pressure steam to the front cylinders when starting and operating at speeds up to 12 mph."


Hey Bill.....maybe if Tom added some apparatus to the rear cylinders it could get up to 16 mph..... ;D


Greg,

I've already tested this hog and top speed is just about 25, which is slow. Due to the small drivers, it sounds like it's going Greg Speed. Any faster and the chuffing becomes just one long sputter.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2020, 04:05:23 PM
Here's a little trick I use for the sound wiring. On this model I have three lights, head - cab and rear. The blue wire on the harness is the common/positive wire.

The three resistors are wired, one to each of the blue wires.

I cut a piece off the blue wire, divided it by three equal lengths, soldered them to the original wire and added heat shrink to protect the solder and to prevent a possible short.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210520154453.jpeg)

NOTE: Yesterday I showed the resistors being soldered to the three colored wires. This is wrong! The  three resistors are soldered to the blue wires

I'll show some photos of the finished model tomorrow.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2020, 03:41:59 PM
Here are the final photos of the C&O H-5. I still need to add the final layer of coal and I noticed two small paint dings that I'll need to touch up.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153714.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153726.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2020, 03:44:15 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153738.jpeg)

The C&O caboose is brass, painted and decaled by me  a few years ago.

I do plan on adding lighted marker lights to the caboose.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153751.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2020, 03:44:54 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153804.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153816.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153830.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153841.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2020, 03:47:40 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153853.jpeg)

This RTR C&O caboose is one the Judge ordered a few years ago. This wood side caboose is/was made by Atlas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220520153903.jpeg)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: sdrees on May 22, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
The paint job turned out just fantastic Tom.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 22, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
Beautiful work, Tom.

Jeff
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: BandOGuy on May 22, 2020, 08:36:41 PM
Beautiful!
Just freakin' beautiful!
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: cuse on May 22, 2020, 09:19:37 PM
Wow...amazing work!


John
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: Oldguy on May 22, 2020, 10:04:56 PM
Absolutely fantabulous!
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: tct855 on May 23, 2020, 01:48:25 AM
ACL 1504,
             What an absolutely fantastic job sir!  If you ever decide to start building/painting locos again I have a couple brass engines as you know I'd love done the right way for a change. ??? Looking forward to your next magic steam act when you get around to it sir.  KP-out...  excuse me while I watch the game???   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGpymRl8bQ
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on May 23, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Darn fine job Tom.....can't wait to get a throttle on it  8) .....at the proper speeds of course.  ;)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: sdrees on May 22, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
The paint job turned out just fantastic Tom.


Steve,

Thanks very much. I'm happy to have this one finished. Getting it back together was very difficult.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 22, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
Beautiful work, Tom.

Jeff


Jeff,

Much appreciate the compliment Doc.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:11:50 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 22, 2020, 08:36:41 PM
Beautiful!
Just freakin' beautiful!

Chip,

Thank you for the freakin' compliment, appreciate it.

Tom   8)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: cuse on May 22, 2020, 09:19:37 PM
Wow...amazing work!


John

John,

Thank you and glad you stopped by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on May 22, 2020, 10:04:56 PM
Absolutely fantabulous!


Bob,

Thank you very much for the kind compliment on the loco painting.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:16:56 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 23, 2020, 01:48:25 AM
ACL 1504,
             What an absolutely fantastic job sir!  If you ever decide to start building/painting locos again I have a couple brass engines as you know I'd love done the right way for a change. ??? Looking forward to your next magic steam act when you get around to it sir.  KP-out...  excuse me while I watch the game???   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGpymRl8bQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGpymRl8bQ)

Thom,

Ah, shucks. I knew you would want some help.  :P  However, not sure I have the time to do any others than mine. Besides, we can't afford each others prices.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2020, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 23, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Darn fine job Tom.....can't wait to get a throttle on it  8) .....at the proper speeds of course.  ;)

Greg,

You are more than welcome to try your hand at the throttle. But believe me when I say this one is very slow. Probably slower than the Judge's Sierra.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: NKP768 on May 26, 2020, 09:52:01 AM
Nice job Tom....you're a braver man then me. The last compound engine I did was a Westside PRR Q-2 and it had a rigid frame. Getting one set of rods working smoothly is a job in itself and then you throw in a second set......great job.
Doug
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 26, 2020, 04:36:01 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 26, 2020, 09:52:01 AM
Nice job Tom....you're a braver man then me. The last compound engine I did was a Westside PRR Q-2 and it had a rigid frame. Getting one set of rods working smoothly is a job in itself and then you throw in a second set......great job.
Doug


Doug,

Thank you, much appreciated. I did the Judge's Sierra 2-6-6-2 articulated loco a couple years ago. That wasn't to bad but this one was much harder getting back together than the Sierra. Also, this is my final articulated loco rigid frame or not.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on May 27, 2020, 03:20:04 AM
Hey Tom:

Look just gorgeous. Love the cabeese to.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: NKP768 on May 27, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
I forgot to add with the Pennsy engine - just when I got everything back together and running smoothly the local SPF made his appearance and proudly announced to anyone within earshot that I had the valve gear set backwards - the Pennsy(Standard Railroad of the World) ran left leading valve gearing when everyone else ran the valve action with the right side leading....sheeessss.
Doug
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2020, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 27, 2020, 03:20:04 AM
Hey Tom:

Look just gorgeous. Love the cabeese to.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you my friend, very much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2020, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 27, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
I forgot to add with the Pennsy engine - just when I got everything back together and running smoothly the local SPF made his appearance and proudly announced to anyone within earshot that I had the valve gear set backwards - the Pennsy(Standard Railroad of the World) ran left leading valve gearing when everyone else ran the valve action with the right side leading....sheeessss.
Doug


Doug,

I got a chuckle out of this comment. The people in the hobby I like least are the rivet counters.   :-X :-X


Tom   ;D

Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: BandOGuy on May 28, 2020, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 28, 2020, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 27, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
I forgot to add with the Pennsy engine - just when I got everything back together and running smoothly the local SPF made his appearance and proudly announced to anyone within earshot that I had the valve gear set backwards - the Pennsy(Standard Railroad of the World) ran left leading valve gearing when everyone else ran the valve action with the right side leading....sheeessss.
Doug
Doug,

I got a chuckle out of this comment. The people in the hobby I like least are the rivet counters.   :-X :-X 


If you think they're bad here, you should try restoring old Corvettes. Now THERE's a group of really anal folks. Been there: tolerated that.


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: deemery on May 28, 2020, 07:22:43 PM
I don't mind people who can tell me when something is wrong. 

I DO mind when people think that I have an obligation to correct it, or an expectation that I'll change how I do my hobby to make them happy.

In particular, I don't mind running stuff that doesn't match my 1898 era, as long as I know it's anachronistic...

(and, with respect to NMRA contests, I don't want to have to write a book about my models.)

dave
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: BandOGuy on May 28, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: deemery on May 28, 2020, 07:22:43 PM
I don't mind people who can tell me when something is wrong. 

I DO mind when people think that I have an obligation to correct it, or an expectation that I'll change how I do my hobby to make them happy.

In particular, I don't mind running stuff that doesn't match my 1898 era, as long as I know it's anachronistic...

(and, with respect to NMRA contests, I don't want to have to write a book about my models.)

dave


Dave,
NMRA contests are currently deemed to be "evaluations".
Contests denote competition and for the generation raised on participation trophies, competition is not a PC term.  >:(
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2020, 10:38:09 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 28, 2020, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 28, 2020, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 27, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
I forgot to add with the Pennsy engine - just when I got everything back together and running smoothly the local SPF made his appearance and proudly announced to anyone within earshot that I had the valve gear set backwards - the Pennsy(Standard Railroad of the World) ran left leading valve gearing when everyone else ran the valve action with the right side leading....sheeessss.
Doug
Doug,

I got a chuckle out of this comment. The people in the hobby I like least are the rivet counters.   :-X :-X 


If you think they're bad here, you should try restoring old Corvettes. Now THERE's a group of really anal folks. Been there: tolerated that.


Tom   ;D


Chip,

Yes, all the auto restorers are real sticklers for detail even down to the correct decal/sticker on the air breather.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2020, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: deemery on May 28, 2020, 07:22:43 PM
I don't mind people who can tell me when something is wrong. 

I DO mind when people think that I have an obligation to correct it, or an expectation that I'll change how I do my hobby to make them happy.

In particular, I don't mind running stuff that doesn't match my 1898 era, as long as I know it's anachronistic...

(and, with respect to NMRA contests, I don't want to have to write a book about my models.)

dave

Dave,

I agree. I have some 40 box cars I like but are a few years outside my time period. MY railroad.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ReadingBob on May 29, 2020, 12:40:22 PM
My motto has always been I model April 23, 1955 at 2:30 p.m. EST.  Give or take 40 years.   :P
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: deemery on May 29, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 29, 2020, 12:40:22 PM
My motto has always been I model April 23, 1955 at 2:30 p.m. EST.  Give or take 40 years.   :P

Even 1955 - 40 is too modern for me!  (1898, but I'll nod and wink at anything before WWI)

dave
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: postalkarl on May 30, 2020, 05:11:02 PM
Hey Tom:

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on June 06, 2020, 05:38:45 PM
After two weeks, the Judge and I finally got a chance to do two videos of the articulated C&O 2-6-6-2 loco,

The scene starts with the loco rounding the curve at Sandlando. The curve is at the northern most limits of the city. Listen carefully and you will hear the exhaust come in and out of sync. Notice also the increase in the throttle as it leaves the city and approaches the railroad bridge at the Little Tahope River.

After crossing the bridge, the loco continues around the curve at Eaton's Curve and on towards the Suwannee River Lagoon. There are 28, okay, one is empty, loaded coal hoppers in this drag and the H5 has no problems with the tonnage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0QFa4WbGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0QFa4WbGs)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on June 06, 2020, 05:45:37 PM
Great loco.....loved the way the whistle sounded off in the distance when the video got to the caboose. Great job.  8)
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on June 07, 2020, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 06, 2020, 05:45:37 PM
Great loco.....loved the way the whistle sounded off in the distance when the video got to the caboose. Great job.  8)

Greg,

Thanks very much, it was a fun video to do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jerryrbeach on June 07, 2020, 10:42:15 AM

Tom,


It was wonderful to see and hear that impressive engine in action against the backdrop of your beautiful scenery.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on June 07, 2020, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on June 07, 2020, 10:42:15 AM

Tom,


It was wonderful to see and hear that impressive engine in action against the backdrop of your beautiful scenery.


Jerry,

Thank you, very glad you enjoyed the video of the C&O "hog". I also appreciate you checking in on the thread.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: GPdemayo on June 07, 2020, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 07, 2020, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 06, 2020, 05:45:37 PM
Great loco.....loved the way the whistle sounded off in the distance when the video got to the caboose. Great job.  8)

Greg,

Thanks very much, it was a fun video to do.

Tom  ;D


Especially since you had a quiet crew..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: jbvb on June 08, 2020, 04:33:29 PM
Nice job, Tom.   Long may it run!

Do you put the resistors in the Blue decoder wire as a standard practice?  I'm not aware of any electrical reason to put resistors on a particular side of an LED.
Title: Re: C&O H-5 2-6-6-2 Articulated Painting
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2020, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: jbvb on June 08, 2020, 04:33:29 PM
Nice job, Tom.   Long may it run!

Do you put the resistors in the Blue decoder wire as a standard practice?  I'm not aware of any electrical reason to put resistors on a particular side of an LED.


James,

Thank you, much appreciate the kind compliment. Yes, long may it run.

The blue wire in the decoder is the positive wire. Meaning this is the wire where the resistor is placed in line. I've seen LEDs with both red/black and red/green leads. The RED is always positive (+) and the Black or Green is always negative (-). I once wired the LED the opposite thinking the Blue was the common wire. It is but it is the COMMON POSITIVE wire.

Tom  ;D