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Title: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 09, 2020, 08:13:17 PM
To go with my grain elevator, I needed an ancillary business, most likely a grain/seed/feed dealer.  The guy behind Built-Rite was at our local Springfield (MO) show and had a two-fer deal going on.  This looked interesting, a local company, so what the hey.

The box touted Full Color East to follow instruction.  Pretty much sums up what's ahead.  So below are the box, a preview of the instructions (he does have a dry sense of humor), some samples of the Full Color instruction, and the kit contents.  It is sad that he couldn't get the margins correct.  Each left hand page is cut off.

Kit contents.  I'll give some credit for the little slips showing what should be loose in the box and in each plastic zip bag.  For the loose sticks, it made it easy to separate each size out , place them their own bags, along with a sticky note what they will go to.  Thankfully, he uses scale dimensional sizing, except for the 1/8" bracing material.  He even includes some Holgate & Reynolds brick strips for making brick piers.  He must of had a stash somewhere.


Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 09, 2020, 08:23:15 PM
More on contents.  He included some corrugated roofing and pre-cut rolled roofing material protected in a cardboard sleeve.  Impressive.  Then there are two of the same pages of templates and siding identification.  What threw me a bit was the Etch and Etching notations.  Apparently, it is for whomever does the laser cutting, as those locations are not to be cut completely through.

I guess if one wants to build it with open doors, one will have to cut through at the marks.  Below is the front wall.  Notice the cut out for a partially open sliding door.

One other novel thing was the side walls being sheets of plywood.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: deemery on March 09, 2020, 08:30:52 PM
"Holgate & Reynolds" - that stuff hasn't been available for more than 20 years!!    Nice stuff, though, I have a couple of sheets stashed away.

dave
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 09, 2020, 08:35:45 PM
So, I have separated the wood and went ahead and numbered the wall sections. 


First up - staining.  The instructions mentioned which sticks that needed to be stained.  It would have been quicker to say which ones needn't be stained,  Especially since below was the actual instruction.

I should have mentioned that I did add the bracing according to the instruction.  Yeah, I had to look through the manual to decipher what and where the pieces went as the photos are junk.  The camera actually cleans them up and makes them sharper than they actually are.


So I got everything braced, AI stained, and then sponge painted.  I made masks to do the side wall 4x8 sheets.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 09, 2020, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 09, 2020, 08:30:52 PM
"Holgate & Reynolds" - that stuff hasn't been available for more than 20 years!!    Nice stuff, though, I have a couple of sheets stashed away.

dave
Yeah, I know.  Me too.  Both brick and HCB sheets.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 09, 2020, 09:34:15 PM

Bob,


You find some really interesting structures for us to watch you build.  Count me in on this one, too.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Janbouli on March 10, 2020, 04:30:34 AM
Interesting , I'll be following along.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: GPdemayo on March 10, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Nice structure to compliment the grain elevator Bob.....I'll be looking in.  :)

How are things doing in Springfield.....probably a lot busier than when Pegi and I were there (pre Branson) for a couple of years at SMS after we transferred down from Mizzou at Columbia.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 10, 2020, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 10, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Nice structure to compliment the grain elevator Bob.....I'll be looking in.  :)

How are things doing in Springfield.....probably a lot busier than when Pegi and I were there (pre Branson) for a couple of years at SMS after we transferred down from Mizzou at Columbia.
Springfield is staying busy.  It helps with Bass Pro and multiple colleges keeping the tourist dollars flowing. They have a RR swap meet twice a year, which is where I continue to unload my excess stuff.  I clear a grand or so each time, so it makes the over nite trip worthwhile.
Pre-Branson?  I didn't think that you were that old.  But the town had grown quite a bit since Branson has done the same.  And SMSU is now Missouri State University.  It's grown tremendously, thanks primarily to John Q Hammons, of the Hammons hotel fame.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: ACL1504 on March 10, 2020, 10:40:30 AM
Bob,

I'm in the gallery as well.  Great start to this one also.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: GPdemayo on March 10, 2020, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on March 10, 2020, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 10, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Nice structure to compliment the grain elevator Bob.....I'll be looking in.  :)

How are things doing in Springfield.....probably a lot busier than when Pegi and I were there (pre Branson) for a couple of years at SMS after we transferred down from Mizzou at Columbia.
.....Pre-Branson?  I didn't think that you were that old.  But the town had grown quite a bit since Branson has done the same.  And SMSU is now Missouri State University.  It's grown tremendously, thanks primarily to John Q Hammons, of the Hammons hotel fame.


Tom keeps telling me that old is just a state of mind (since he's a couple of months older than me).....Pegi and I were in Branson 2 or 3 times back then and there were a few stores on main street, one blinking yellow/red light and a Holiday Inn. A bit of growth I'd say.  ;)
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: postalkarl on March 10, 2020, 05:36:34 PM
Hey Bob:

Looks good so far. I'll be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 10, 2020, 10:22:17 PM
Okay, where was I?  Oh yeah, finished adding the corner trim from 6x6 material.  Now on to the funky dock door wall.  The cutout is for a sliding (?) door and a window.  But first one must trim out the door.  Glue on the left hand side, add, but not glue, the right had bit of trim, then make two pieces for the top and bottom pieces.  Once done, it also provides support of the window.  Easy peasy.

There is a weird little wall that forms the left portion of the dock enclosure.  It gets a piece of trim where it will connect with the left wall.  Okay.  I guess like it was added later in life.  And they want it framed on the inside with 2x4s.  The directions wanted it to be kept in stain, but nope.  I'll paint it white.  The directions also was to frame the top plate on an angle.  Actually, they wanted two plates.  Completely prototypical for two upper plates, but I'll frame that walls as I would have.

Remember when I mentioned this guys sense of humor?  The instruction manual doesn't have steps, it has chapters.  Such as The Real ApPeel! (how to use rubber cement for peeling paint), A white for Sore Eyes (painting the walls and other bits), In the Sill of the Night (painting the windows), and Batman and Rubbin' (the removal of the now dry rubber cement treated painted walls).  Some do get a chuckle or two.

So, while the glue is drying I'll skip a bit and do the loading dock.  The instruction manual shows 4x10 pieces, the template shows 6x10 pieces, and the parts list didn't have it.  It's not the foundation piece.  I did find the pre cut parts in a zip bag.  Well, they are 4x but not x10 or x12.  And when put on the template, the three horizontal pieces are short.  I'll press on.  I won't know if it being off is going to be a problem yet,  Included are all the 2x8 deck boards.  All pre cut.  Interesting.

Okay, on to the loading dock window.  All gazing is in a zip bag.  He must of had a stash of these.  The glazing material is a bit thicker than most and not even close to being laser cut to size.  Perhaps it was meant to applied after the window was glued in and cover it all.  I went ahead and trimmed it for each sash.  I went to glue the window in place and noticed it didn't sit flat.  Um, the door frame was installed as directed.  Huh.  Okay I'm an idiot and used the trim material.  I was supposed to use the 4x4 material.  Considering that this assembly will be inset a couple of inches, I'm leaving well enough alone,  Jeez, not quite so easy peasy ya dummy.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 11, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
I finally was able to start actually putting this together.  The magnets hep hold one side firm and keep the adjacent side truly vertical.


Then slowly add more walls.  I can't imagine building anything anymore without this jig.  Unless it was a longer one.

So, while all that is drying, it was time to work on the dock.  As previously mentioned, I was concerned about it being short.  But the instruction stated that it would help in keeping the dock area square (it did), so I needed to get it done.  A bag held the precut stair material.  Upon checking it, the long pieces were short and the short pieces were long.  I found a decent photo about 20 pages forward which showed no overhang.  Okay, then the long boards are actually cut correctly.  But the short pieces are seven inches too long.    I'll go ahead and install them and trim to size later.  The steps appear to be too wide, but I'll wait until the dock is installed to verify.

Now, I was able to get the last two walls added.  And yes, the shortened dock fit perfectly.  If it was built to the template, it would have been too long.  Go figure. 




Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: postalkarl on March 12, 2020, 06:58:11 AM
Hey Bob:

She's looking good keep the pics flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on March 12, 2020, 11:11:32 AM
Bob,
Will follow along on your project...
Tommy
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 12, 2020, 09:21:45 PM
Welcome aboard Tom.

Now that the walls have been glued and set, time for the roof decks.  Fairly straight forward, add glue and weigh down.  I an developing a love/hate relationship to the Super 'Phatic glue.  It will be interesting to see how they plan on filling in a hole that will occur between the main roof and the loading dock roof.  Scanning through the instruction didn't say.

One thing that I do do on pitched roof kits is to copy the roof pitch and any connections, such as connected shed roof, as here.  This will ease in cutting any verge or frieze boards.

While waiting for glue to dry, I decided to work on the 7 brick piers.  These are made up of three cut wood pieces the same height as an upcoming foundation wall material.  The Holgate & Reynolds brick material has been precut and scored to wrap around the wood cores.  It will be short on the inside portion as it won't been seen anyway.


Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: postalkarl on March 13, 2020, 08:55:46 AM
hey Bob:

Looks like it is coming along.

Karl
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 14, 2020, 08:32:08 PM
One persnickety bit, was the lack of a full wall behind the loading dock.  The here just hit the top of what was built, but above that, nothing.  I didn't have any spare lap siding, so I used a piece of scribed that was given a bit of AI and paint.  It was fitted decent enough and glued in.  It won't be all that noticeable once the dock roof is added.  The void is evident in the instruction photos; such as they are.  The dock door was just a piece of siding glued behind the wall, so I added some paper hinges and a dollop of painted glue for a door knob.  In hindsight, I should of reversed the hinges and knob.

I did have issues with the brick piers.  WeldBond didn't want to hold and oddly enough, neither did ACC.  At least not very well.  So I used some E6000 abd wil find out on the morrow if it held.    I close to use Rail Scale Models brick piers, but I'll wait and see at this point.

I did get some small windows in and some sliding door track.  I'm not all that enthralled with the track.  I might add some wire to indicate the door hardware.

The kit included a basic three piece stair jig.  Place the narrow one in the middle, add the stringer, then the wider parts to hold the stringers.  It ain't fancy, but it does work.


Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 15, 2020, 12:58:49 PM

Bob,


Nice progress on an interesting structure build.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 15, 2020, 09:25:26 PM
Got the stairs done  ;D

The kit has interesting dock bumpers.  2x12, with 2x8 under doors, and bolt heads.  Different.  I'm stlil debating over the sliding door hardware.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: MAP on March 16, 2020, 05:51:11 AM
Coming along nicely Bob.  I like your weathered painting.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 16, 2020, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: MAP on March 16, 2020, 05:51:11 AM
Coming along nicely Bob.  I like your weathered painting.
Thanks.  It was one of better efforts.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 16, 2020, 09:17:06 PM
The 7 piers are a bit futsy.  Have to get all three pieces even and then try to glue on the pre-scored brick overlay.  Finally got that done and on to mortar lines.  My old stand by, Spackle, wouldn't stick.  After drying overnight, most of it just peeled off.  I made a white wash and of course, it didn't settle into the lines.  I did some dry brushing of old brick paint and calling them good.  I see that eventually I'm going to have to replace that piece of foil. 


Came time to add the frieze boards and eave trim.  Here the roof angle template came to good use.  One just needs to get close to the vertical lines to get a good cut.  The old Mark One Eyeball just ain't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 16, 2020, 09:21:29 PM
The sliding door hardware, or lack thereof, was starting to bother me.

I found some wire and made a small bend and then cut it to length.  Place the bent end down and glue it in place.  Small little suckers.

Then glue thing strips to simulate the attachment hardware.  I just used black construction paper.  I just need to rust 'em up a bit after the glue dries.  I think at 18" away they'll look okay.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 16, 2020, 09:24:01 PM
Looks really good Bob.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Opa George on March 17, 2020, 05:48:17 AM
Nice detailing on the doors, Bob.  It is odd how inconsistent the inclusion of door hardware is among kit manufacturers. Many include it sometimes, but not always.  Some never.  I think it makes a world of difference and always try to fashion something if it is not included.
--Opa George
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 17, 2020, 10:50:48 AM

Bob,


Looking good.  I like the door hardware.  There are so many varieties of sliding door hardware modeling them can really add a distinctive look to your model.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 17, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
I agree that plain scribed doors do need to be dressed up.  For the loading dock door, I made paper hinges and a dollop of glue that was painted for a door knob.  They won't win any contest points, but from close eye balls, it does make the door look a lot better.  I finished up the sliding doors, then moved on to the roof.

The kit included pre cut tar paper material, so I thought I'd use it.  This could be a complete disaster.  Way too many ripples.  I'll let it sit overnight and see if it changes.  As a side note, I find that it is a lot easier to let the paper overhang any edge to some degree and not get worried about neatness.  I go back over all overhanging edges using a metal ruler for not only spacing, but a hard edge, and a single edged razor blade to neatly cut off any and all excess.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 18, 2020, 09:40:56 PM
Well, many of the wrinkles did disappear.  Some of the larger ones remained.  What to do.  What to do.  Removing all of it wasn't an option and I had considered removing what I could, replacing it with 3-tab shingles.  The flat spots would be left and the 3-tabs set like portions of the roof had blown off, leaving just the tar paper underlayment.  Then I decided to let it go and "tarred" the high spots.  They pretty much disappeared to the naked eye.
Then it on to the foundation.  The "original" portion of the building had a brick foundation that is represented by a brick overlay on strip wood.  Not much of a glue surface exists.  I found that 6x12 material would give a decent reveal for the siding over the brick and provided a decent amount of additional glue surface.  The side brick just ends where the new "addition" is located and a piece of bracing was added and a small section of brick overlay exists to wrap around to make the foundation look continuous.  As long as everything is upside down, might as well add the 7 piers. 

Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 19, 2020, 11:07:27 PM
I really didn't get a lot done today.  I had planned on completing the roof top sign.  I figured out how to make a sign in Excel and control it's size.  I got it printed, along with a Chicken Chow road sign and sprayed with a fixative.  While that was all drying, I painted and put together the sign board.  What I didn't plan on was the sign having a 2x12 top and side pieces, eating up sign area.  Idiot.  No wonder the original kit sign was smaller.  Idiot.

And yes, I did rename the company.  I dug around and found who owned the actual feed and grain company, so it was a natural option.  But then I try to do this for each town industry. 
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 21, 2020, 10:23:42 AM
I managed to get the roof-top sign done and the road side sign made up.  The latter, I snagged off the interwebs and resized it.

The included signs weren't all that good and I tried to recover them as much as I was capable of doing, but nah.  While looking for applicable replacement graphis, I ran across Dave's Decals.  He had just exactly what I needed, including the Purina signs.  The kit had it as Purnia.  Igot a couple of sets in both clear and white.  I chose the white.  Let's see.  It's been what 30 years since I slid a decal?  Probably Dave's was a good place to get back into it.  I'll add some Micro Sol and check  to see hos does.  I will need to weather these.  Probably should have gone with clear.

I did manage to add what detail stuff came with the kit.  Once it gets planted, I'll add more.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 21, 2020, 10:54:06 AM

Bob,


I like the last shot of the covered loading dock.  It really shows off the work you did adding door details, studs to the end wall, stairs, brick piers, etc.  Very nice modeling.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on March 21, 2020, 01:09:00 PM
Bob,
Your build is looking great ! The signage and details make the kits come alive.
Tommy
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 21, 2020, 07:00:11 PM
Very nice Bob.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 21, 2020, 10:02:04 PM
Jerry, Tom, and Curt thanks for the kind words.

Took some weathering powders to the ends and bottom sections.  I'm calling this one done.  At least until it gets planted on the layout.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: postalkarl on March 22, 2020, 03:49:09 AM
Hey Bob:

It coming along very nicely. Keep the pic flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Opa George on March 25, 2020, 03:43:48 PM
Bob, that turned out very nice indeed.  I particularly like the kicked up dirt effect at the loading door and side of the building. Looks very authentic.
--Opa George
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: GPdemayo on March 26, 2020, 09:25:58 AM
Excellent modeling Bob.....enjoyed your build and am looking forward to seeing it planted on your layout.  8)
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: postalkarl on March 26, 2020, 03:39:31 PM
Hey Bob:

Love the weathering. It's looking good.

Karl
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 26, 2020, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2020, 09:25:58 AM
Excellent modeling Bob.....enjoyed your build and am looking forward to seeing it planted on your layout.  8)
Thanks.  I can't wait, well actually I'll have to, get it planted.  I finally got a static grass gun.  I'll probably have grass growing on the roof by the time I'm done.
Title: Re: Built-Rite Models Wm Archer Co
Post by: Oldguy on March 26, 2020, 10:02:32 PM
Thanks for the support Karl and George.
Still learning