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Title: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:27:18 PM
I drew the foot print of where Jefferies will be located.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151334.jpeg)

Roadway added -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151348.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:30:20 PM
Some good news is that the wood platform didn't warp when dried.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151405.jpeg)

Scenery will be next to the road and building as it was on the diorama.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818151418.jpeg)

I have room for two additional nice sized building on the right and left but not sure what they will be at this time.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
Here are a few views of Jefferies to give you some perspective of where it's located in relation to the other surrounding structures.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152357.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:32:37 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152530.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152530.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on August 30, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
Tom


Congratulations on Part 3 of your build thread! What a great way to start it out. And thanks again for sharing your layout progress with us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 30, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
Tom


Congratulations on Part 3 of your build thread! What a great way to start it out. And thanks again for sharing your layout progress with us.


John,

Thank you my friend, it was an easy decision after what happened two years ago.

And, you are welcome, my pleasure in sharing the layout progress.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 04:02:30 PM
I've been testing a few structures in this area. This one is Four Aces Salvage, the first ever build challenge on the forum.

Of course the structure would sit further back from the tracks.

I'm thinking of using this area as an old salvage/junk yard. This is only a thought for now. I'll leave it a few days to see how I like it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160024.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160024.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160040.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160040.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 04:03:12 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160055.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160055.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160111.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160111.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
Of course this would look better in the location.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg)

I'm thinking very seriously about getting the three kits and building one for the A&S RR.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 30, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
And the journey begins on Part 3.....I'll be looking keeping an eye on things from the cheap seats.....you know me better than to think I would go for the close in box seats, don't you?  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on August 30, 2018, 05:29:30 PM
Hey Tom:

Lots of great buildings. Keep the photos coming I'll be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on August 30, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
Uncle Tommie,
Congratulations on reaching part three of the thread.  That is truly amazing!  I like the placement of four aces salvage building.  I think you should go for it.

Now a comment on a post at the end of part two.  While every model railroader owns and knows how to turn on a sawsall, not everyone know how to use one SAFELY,   Case in point during a recent layout tear down, I witnessed someone going thru a live power line with said tool.  The fact that me and the operator lived to tell the tale is nothing short of amazing.  And no, I wasn't the operator but I was working nearby when it happened.

So Please, Look before you leap with this widowmaker-9000 class tool.  And Don't try this at home!

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Amagic41 on August 30, 2018, 11:25:06 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
Of course this would look better in the location.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg)

I'm thinking very seriously about getting the three kits and building one for the A&S RR.


Tom...Not to mention you have already built part of it ..... twice  ...lol
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: geoawelch on August 31, 2018, 08:11:33 AM
Tom,

What a great display of fine modeling. Very impressive.

George
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: vinceg on August 31, 2018, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg)

Tom, what are those two buildings across the tracks from Jeffries? The one with the two box cars in front and the one next to it. Are those scratch built? I don't recognize them as any kits I have seen.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 30, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
And the journey begins on Part 3.....I'll be looking keeping an eye on things from the cheap seats.....you know me better than to think I would go for the close in box seats, don't you?  ;)


Greg,

Not to worry, all the seats here are cheap ones. If not, I'd have to charge admission.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:15:23 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 30, 2018, 05:29:30 PM
Hey Tom:

Lots of great buildings. Keep the photos coming I'll be following along.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you as always, I've got more structures and photos.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 30, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
Uncle Tommie,
Congratulations on reaching part three of the thread.  That is truly amazing!  I like the placement of four aces salvage building.  I think you should go for it.

Now a comment on a post at the end of part two.  While every model railroader owns and knows how to turn on a sawsall, not everyone know how to use one SAFELY,   Case in point during a recent layout tear down, I witnessed someone going thru a live power line with said tool.  The fact that me and the operator lived to tell the tale is nothing short of amazing.  And no, I wasn't the operator but I was working nearby when it happened.

So Please, Look before you leap with this widowmaker-9000 class tool.  And Don't try this at home!

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you for following along on the third part of the A&S RR. I like the placement of the Four Aces as well but will probably use that area for another structure.

In august 1967 I was struck by lightning and survived. I won't say I got a large charge out of the deal but the man standing next ot me was killed. So, like me, it wasn't your time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Amagic41 on August 30, 2018, 11:25:06 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
Of course this would look better in the location.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818160125.jpeg)

I'm thinking very seriously about getting the three kits and building one for the A&S RR.


Tom...Not to mention you have already built part of it ..... twice  ...lol


Ken,

As you know, the Jenson 3 kit, kit bash was ordered yesterday. I'll most likely do a thread on my build in a month or so.

That is one "cool" kit and build. I hope I can do it justice.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: geoawelch on August 31, 2018, 08:11:33 AM
Tom,

What a great display of fine modeling. Very impressive.

George


George,

Thank you for the kind compliment and for following along, much appreciated.

I plan to dedicate the rest of the year to building structures for the A&S RR.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
Quote from: vinceg on August 31, 2018, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg)

Tom, what are those two buildings across the tracks from Jeffries? The one with the two box cars in front and the one next to it. Are those scratch built? I don't recognize them as any kits I have seen.


Vince,

Those are two scratch built citrus processing plants. Frank Baker, Erieman, built them for me in exchange for me painting and sounding two Erie brass locos for him. The whole process took us about four years. It seems we were both busy doing other stuff and working on our own layouts.  8) 8) 8)


Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on August 31, 2018, 02:48:40 PM
Tom, unlike most movie sequels, your layout sequels get better and better.  Thanks for posting the picture of the ruler with Jeffries Point.  I wondered what the dimensions were, as I had a spot on the layout it might work on, but the building is too wide.  Thanks again!


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 31, 2018, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 31, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 30, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
And the journey begins on Part 3.....I'll be looking keeping an eye on things from the cheap seats.....you know me better than to think I would go for the close in box seats, don't you?  ;)


Greg,

Not to worry, all the seats here are cheap ones. If not, I'd have to charge admission.  8)


Tom  ;D


Phewwwww.....that's a relief. Who in their right mind (?) would complain about cheap seats when the admission is free?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on August 31, 2018, 06:26:21 PM
Looking good, Tom.

I will be interested in seeing your 'borrowed scenery' views across the peninsula.  I have no doubt you will beat me in its completion!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on September 05, 2018, 09:17:09 AM
Tom what a great start for part 3.

I'll be following along.

Some really beautiful buildings you have to plant there.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on September 05, 2018, 10:35:47 PM
Following along too.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on August 31, 2018, 02:48:40 PM
Tom, unlike most movie sequels, your layout sequels get better and better.  Thanks for posting the picture of the ruler with Jeffries Point.  I wondered what the dimensions were, as I had a spot on the layout it might work on, but the building is too wide.  Thanks again!


Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you, appreciate the compliment and you checking in on the thread. The ruler was a fluke so I'm glad it helped.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2018, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on August 31, 2018, 06:26:21 PM
Looking good, Tom.

I will be interested in seeing your 'borrowed scenery' views across the peninsula.  I have no doubt you will beat me in its completion!

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to the scenery part as well. It will stay a southern theme.

It's is very easy to get a lot done when every day is Saturday. I do remember those days when I said, "Hurry up Saturday". Careful what we wish for huh?

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2018, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Jerry on September 05, 2018, 09:17:09 AM
Tom what a great start for part 3.

I'll be following along.

Some really beautiful buildings you have to plant there.

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you and thanks for following along on the part 3 adventure. Most of the structures you see are those built by Reading Bob and the two citrus ones by Erieman. I do have a few of my measly ones out also. ;D ;D


Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2018, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: jbvb on September 05, 2018, 10:35:47 PM
Following along too.


James,

Very happy to have you aboard, thank you for following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2018, 03:12:31 PM
If time permits, I'll have an update later this evening. 8)   If not, I'll post it tomorrow.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
I plan to have a few roads in Tahope, one of which will be down the center of town. The Judge and I think some good ole street running is in order for the Crackers in Tahope.

I cut a piece of 1 ply cardboard and placed it in different locations. It is 22 HO scale feet wide.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145824.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:16:37 PM
After adding two additional siding, I decided to leave the road in the first location.

I wanted an area where one passenger coach could be spotted at the end of the small FSM station. Here I have an Athean round top coach on the siding. This car has no interior or passengers.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145648.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145648.jpeg)

I replaced the Athearn with a Walthers 86 ft. coach. This coach has passengers and interior lighting. However, it is to long for the siding.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145705.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:20:11 PM
I previously marked the location of the road as shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145721.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145721.jpeg)

Easy peasy fix was to move and remark the road an inch to the left.

The new road sides are marked in blue. Problem solved.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145840.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145840.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:22:55 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145912.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145912.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145858.jpeg)


I cut the first section of the road and placed it next to the outside rail. It has a slight bump in the middle.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145926.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few more.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
My luck was that the road was over a soldered rail joiner.

I used a Dremel cutoff disc and removed the top portion of the rail joiner. The rails were still soldered to the bottom of the rail joiner.

Now the road fits snug against the rail.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145939.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145939.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145953.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918145953.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
The rest of the road was just a matter of cutting and fitting across the tracks.

Nothing is glued in place. I haven't decided yet whether to leave is as a concrete road or an asphalt roadway with wood crossing planks on the tracks.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150007.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150007.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150025.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150025.jpeg)


Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
My test car fits.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150044.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150044.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150101.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150101.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:41:04 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150121.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150121.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150140.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150203.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060918150203.jpeg)


Street running will start here. The length is just under 4' 9".

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070918164529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070918164529.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on September 08, 2018, 02:15:12 AM
Looks good, Tom.

Volume three is kicking along nicely!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on September 08, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
Tom thanks for the great instructions on designing and testing the road. Timing could not have been better. I am just researching how to put a road in my little layout. You are doing the heavy lifting for me.

I will be interested in how you put the road down with tracks running parallel to the town buildings. The second siding on my layout is planned to have that happen. Being 1910 or so my roads will be brick.

Looking good

Thanks
Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 08, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
SHouldn't the road have a center crown, to let the rain drain to the sides?


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on September 08, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
Tom,
Thanks as always for your elegant, patient description of how things should be done correctly.
Selfish question: would you change this process if you were building what the B&O called "center running", locales where the railroad ran down the center of the street (not in an island arrangement)? Planning to do the first area of a layout showing urban running with the tracks in the street.
Not trying to hijack your thread.
Thanks for any comment/suggestions.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on September 08, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
The Tahope roads you propose give the feel of the town having been platted after the RR was surveyed, as everything is on the same grid.  One option would be to have most streets laid out square to the RoW and one or two skewed, dating earlier.

I've seen a good deal of street track laid in concrete, but I can't recall grade crossings done without at least a little wood, asphalt or rubber (modern era) next to the rails. Grade crossing rail goes from open ties to pavement to open ties, and is subject to cracks, wears, wheelslip burns etc.  Usually the MoW Super insists on rail which can be replaced without delays to either trains or autos.  Waiting for concrete to cure doesn't fit well with that.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on September 08, 2018, 02:15:12 AM
Looks good, Tom.

Volume three is kicking along nicely!

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you! I'll be very busy for the next few months on the center section.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 05:44:57 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on September 08, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
Tom thanks for the great instructions on designing and testing the road. Timing could not have been better. I am just researching how to put a road in my little layout. You are doing the heavy lifting for me.

I will be interested in how you put the road down with tracks running parallel to the town buildings. The second siding on my layout is planned to have that happen. Being 1910 or so my roads will be brick.

Looking good

Thanks
Jim D


Jim,

Thank you, much appreciate you letting me know this will help. I discussed in much more detail how to do the paved roads in two locations through out the thread. Sorry, not sure where they are but you need to read them as it will give you a "step by step" system for great looking roads.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 08, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
SHouldn't the road have a center crown, to let the rain drain to the sides?


dave


Dave,

Yes, you are correct. I've done road crowns in the past and to make the crown visible, it doesn't look natural in HO scale. My opinion only though. Also, I found it hard to do crossing tracks.

However, you now have issued a challenge, intended or not, so I'll see what I can do with the road crossing the 5 tracks.  8)


I appreciate the idea.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 09, 2018, 05:56:42 PM
Tahope is coming together Tom..... 8)

As Tom eluded to earlier, he has made it very clear that there will be a very low speed limit in Tahope and that any violation of said limit will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I'm sure that after he and "The Judge" have a come to Jesus meeting, A&S RR style, I will only be permitted to run a steam engine to of from the roundhouse between 1:00 AM and 5:00 AM so as to limit the exposure of the locals to any hazardous conditions along the rails.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on September 08, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
Tom,
Thanks as always for your elegant, patient description of how things should be done correctly.
Selfish question: would you change this process if you were building what the B&O called "center running", locales where the railroad ran down the center of the street (not in an island arrangement)? Planning to do the first area of a layout showing urban running with the tracks in the street.
Not trying to hijack your thread.
Thanks for any comment/suggestions.


Chip,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the thread.

I'll answer your question with what my father used to say was a none response to his question. My answer is Yes and No. First, No as I wanted to do some "center running" on the island portion of the layout. This allowed me to have two tracks and points of interest.

And secondly, Yes, as I plan to do some urban "center street running" on the third level as well. This "center running " section will be more of a business district area.

Hijack my thread any time my friend. We are all here to help each other and share our experiences and ideas. I may be the author of the thread but it is all our thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: jbvb on September 08, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
The Tahope roads you propose give the feel of the town having been platted after the RR was surveyed, as everything is on the same grid.  One option would be to have most streets laid out square to the RoW and one or two skewed, dating earlier.

I've seen a good deal of street track laid in concrete, but I can't recall grade crossings done without at least a little wood, asphalt or rubber (modern era) next to the rails. Grade crossing rail goes from open ties to pavement to open ties, and is subject to cracks, wears, wheelslip burns etc.  Usually the MoW Super insists on rail which can be replaced without delays to either trains or autos.  Waiting for concrete to cure doesn't fit well with that.






James,

Thanks for checking in and offering your comments. One of my options was to have a road parallel the the RR ROW. This took up to much room and didn't offer me a chance to have more structures.

When I said earlier that I hadn't decided to have wood next to the track or pave it, I was pretty much just speaking out loud. Not sure why. Anyway I fully intend to have the wood planks next to and in the middle of the two rails. The photo below shows what I did just north of Sandlando. The photo reminds me to finish the weathering across the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090918180506.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090918180506.jpeg)

In the photo below, I do have the road between the two citrus plants at an angle to the main highway. The one road we just decussed, is the only one on the layout that is perpendicular to the layout itself. This was done to ease into the "center street running" section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090918180521.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090918180521.jpeg)

As always Jim, I appreciate the input and comments.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 09, 2018, 05:56:42 PM
Tahope is coming together Tom..... 8)

As Tom eluded to earlier, he has made it very clear that there will be a very low speed limit in Tahope and that any violation of said limit will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I'm sure that after he and "The Judge" have a come to Jesus meeting, A&S RR style, I will only be permitted to run a steam engine to of from the roundhouse between 1:00 AM and 5:00 AM so as to limit the exposure of the locals to any hazardous conditions along the rails.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Thank you my friend. It has been fun.

Make no mistake, you will be monitored with the throttle in you fast little fingers. Remember, between the Judge and I, we can file charges, make the arrest, have an arraignment, determine quilt and pronounce sentence all in 10 minutes or less. This is known as Tahope Cracker Law.

Just saying.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 09, 2018, 08:44:13 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 08, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
SHouldn't the road have a center crown, to let the rain drain to the sides?

dave
Dave,

Yes, you are correct. I've done road crowns in the past and to make the crown visible, it doesn't look natural in HO scale. My opinion only though. Also, I found it hard to do crossing tracks.

However, you now have issued a challenge, intended or not, so I'll see what I can do with the road crossing the 5 tracks.  8)


I appreciate the idea.

Tom  ;D
Hmm...  I guess you could get at least some of the effect through shading and weathering.  That's easier than trying to get a scale bump in the middle of the road :-)

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 10, 2018, 08:47:29 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 09, 2018, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 09, 2018, 05:56:42 PM
Tahope is coming together Tom..... 8)

As Tom eluded to earlier, he has made it very clear that there will be a very low speed limit in Tahope and that any violation of said limit will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I'm sure that after he and "The Judge" have a come to Jesus meeting, A&S RR style, I will only be permitted to run a steam engine to of from the roundhouse between 1:00 AM and 5:00 AM so as to limit the exposure of the locals to any hazardous conditions along the rails.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg.....Make no mistake, you will be monitored with the throttle in you fast little fingers. Remember, between the Judge and I, we can file charges, make the arrest, have an arraignment, determine quilt and pronounce sentence all in 10 minutes or less. This is known as Tahope Cracker Law.....

Tom


That's what I was afraid of.....damn little Florida towns are almost as bad as Georgia's. Absolutely no sense of humor where it concerns scofflaws and improving the size of the town coffers..... :( >:( :(

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on September 10, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff


Jeff,

FWIW, the standard lane width for an interstate highway is 12 foot.  Prior to the construction of the interstate system lane widths were generally narrower.  When I was growing up in the 50's and even into the 60's some roads in the northeast were widened by adding a foot or more to the outside edge of the existing roadway.  Since the road base was not uniform, even after repaving across the lanes the outer edge would be higher or lower than the narrower section, usually due to the base settling.  After this type of widening process many roads had an annoying "seam" that drivers had to straddle because of the difference between the two portions of the road. 
The amount of crown in a two lane highway is generally in the range of roughly 2% of the lane width.  For example, a modern highway with a 12 foot lane width would generally have a crown of about 2 to 2 1/2".  Anything greater than a roughly 2% crown can be annoying when traveling on the road.  States that commonly have heavy rainfall may choose to use a greater amount of crown. 
Isn't it interesting how prior employment can fill your head with miscellaneous and sometimes useful information? 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2018, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for the two photos on how you did the road. In my opinion the crown is to much. I think half the rise would look more realistic in your future roads. That said, you may have a different look when viewing the road from the side.

If you look at the cars in your photos, to me,  they appear as if the are on a curve in the road and not the straight section.

My layout era is late 40's early 50's.


My country roads are 21 HO scale feet wide and the highway is 22 HO scale feet wide. Both roads shown below have no crown.


Tom  ;D




Country road - 21' wide.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100918153444.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100918153444.jpeg)

Highway road - 22' wide.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100918153500.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100918153500.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2018, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 10, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff


Jeff,
 
Isn't it interesting how prior employment can fill your head with miscellaneous and sometimes useful information?


Jerry,

Not referring to you but in my world of prior employment I refer to this minutiae as superfluous BS.  ;D ;D ;D 


I can't stand to watch any law enforcement shows as I see all the mistakes being made like throwing bullets Lone Ranger style. Officer safety is off the charts and it drives me crazy. And that doesn't take much.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 10, 2018, 03:53:55 PM
I'm always amazed how
  • everyone shoots forever without reloading
 
  • someone gets a first round perfect hit or they expend a lot of ammo and can't hit the broadside of a barn

  • someone gets shot right in the shoulder and gets better in a day or so

  • no one gets knocked on his/her ass when they get shot

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on September 10, 2018, 05:42:40 PM
Hollywood! Now there's a movie...  It seems when Hollywood gets involved with guns, the phrase shoot'em all and let God sort'em out! ha.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on September 11, 2018, 08:41:44 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 10, 2018, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 10, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff


Jeff,
 
Isn't it interesting how prior employment can fill your head with miscellaneous and sometimes useful information?


Jerry,

Not referring to you but in my world of prior employment I refer to this minutiae as superfluous BS.  ;D ;D ;D 


I can't stand to watch any law enforcement shows as I see all the mistakes being made like throwing bullets Lone Ranger style. Officer safety is off the charts and it drives me crazy. And that doesn't take much.

Tom  8)

Tom,

Why is it that when someone says something doesn't apply to you, you immediately think the opposite? 

Seriously my friend, I love your roads.  The two photos you posted have so many wonderful little touches.  I especially like the wood guard rail posts in the second shot, and the way the road in the first shot blends into the backdrop.  Beautiful modeling!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: tct855 on September 10, 2018, 05:42:40 PM
Hollywood! Now there's a movie...  It seems when Hollywood gets involved with guns, the phrase shoot'em all and let God sort'em out! ha.  KP-out...


KP,

Exactly right my friend. They through more than bullets these days as well.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 11, 2018, 08:41:44 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 10, 2018, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 10, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 10, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Here's how I put the crown on the roads.  The base is 1/8 inch masonite.  The road surface is 2mm Sintra (A PVC plastic).  I used a piece of stripwood to raise the center.  It's a six inch rise on a 26 foot wide road.  Too much crown?  Not enough?


Jeff


Jeff,
 
Isn't it interesting how prior employment can fill your head with miscellaneous and sometimes useful information?


Jerry,

Not referring to you but in my world of prior employment I refer to this minutiae as superfluous BS.  ;D ;D ;D 


I can't stand to watch any law enforcement shows as I see all the mistakes being made like throwing bullets Lone Ranger style. Officer safety is off the charts and it drives me crazy. And that doesn't take much.

Tom  8)

Tom,

Why is it that when someone says something doesn't apply to you, you immediately think the opposite? 

Seriously my friend, I love your roads.  The two photos you posted have so many wonderful little touches.  I especially like the wood guard rail posts in the second shot, and the way the road in the first shot blends into the backdrop.  Beautiful modeling!


Jerry,

In reference to the comment, I guess it's human nature to say that. When I typed it I was thinking, "I hope he doesn't think I'm referring to him." Hence the declaimer.  ;D ;D

Thank you for the very kind and generous comment on the layout work and roads.

I'm going to try and get more ground level photos of the layout in the near future.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:02:00 PM
I was going to show some issues with ballasting track yesterday. However, I got side tracked and excited about another project.

I'll go over the ballasting thing later next week if not sooner.

I started to ballast the run around track, the track that circles the round house, and came up with another idea for a little more detailing in the round house/turntable area.

Bob Leonard and I were talking one day and he mentioned or rather asked how the sand got into the sand bin. I was going to tell him Jimmy D. was sending some of his little people down to handle the task.

To make it more believable, I'm adding a sand pit, next to the sand bin.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172549.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172549.jpeg)

I also shot a video of how I use the jigsaw to cut a line in the plywood without using a drilled hole as a starting point. As in all things Mr. Murphy has in his bag, he got me again on this one.

After doing all the work and narrating as I cut, the video camera ran out of memory half way thorough the video. Seems like I never removed the hours of video of the F&SM I took two years ago.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
I removed the track and used the jigsaw to cut out the area shown below. No pilot hole was used to make the initial cut.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172624.jpeg)

I covered the hole with blue painters tape and then ballasted the track next to the new sand pit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172952.jpeg)

Continued in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172707.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
Oops,

Look like I'm getting my tennis shoes in the act also.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172724.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172724.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172752.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918172752.jpeg)

More in a few, need a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:12:36 PM
I then removed a few ties from the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173047.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173047.jpeg)

I made a small pit box to fit under the hole. I used black foam board.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173031.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173031.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:16:57 PM
I used Weldwood Contact Cement to glue the box under the layout.

I took this photo so you get to see it in place, from the bottom up!  ;D ;D ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173253.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173253.jpeg)


I used some scrap styrene to line the sand pit sides.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173112.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173112.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:19:12 PM
The long side pieces were removed and notched.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173127.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173127.jpeg)

The sides were then glued in place and painted with Floquil Aged Concrete.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173149.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173149.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:22:23 PM
I added sand to the bottom of the pit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173206.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173206.jpeg)

Cross bars were added to the sides and glued into the slots on the top.

I used Evergreen StripStyrene, .035" rods for the cross bars.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173231.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173231.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2018, 06:25:15 PM
The cross bars were painted with Floquil Grimy Black and while still wet, I sprinkled some sand over the bars.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173326.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130918173326.jpeg)

Tomorrow I'll finish the sand pit to include the track.

I appreciate all whom follow along on the adventure.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on September 14, 2018, 08:24:31 AM
Looking good Tom. Fantastic modeling my friend!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on September 14, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Nice work Tom.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 14, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
How will the sand get from the hole in the ground up into the wet sand bin?

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 14, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I've been reading all your post about road building with great interest.  I got  a couple of questions for you

1 .) Did I understand correctly that you use 1ply cardboard like the type you find at Wal-Mart to make art PROJECT?
2.) Two lane highways are 21' or 22' feet wide
3.) Do you prime your cardboard before installing it to the layout?
4.) What's colors do you use for the asphalt?  For your striping? Is that just the Woodland Scenics paint?
5.) Do you sand or texture the cardboard in any way?

I ask all this because your highway road photos look so good I think they are prefect!

As always, a masterful job sir!  Please add another Diet Pepsi to my tab for your efforts!

;D :D :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:51:08 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on September 14, 2018, 08:24:31 AM
Looking good Tom. Fantastic modeling my friend!


John,

Thank you very much. It has been fun to add these little details that change the look of the area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
Quote from: Jerry on September 14, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Nice work Tom.

Jerry


Jerry,

I very much appreciate the kind compliment my friend. Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 14, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
How will the sand get from the hole in the ground up into the wet sand bin?

dave


Dave,

Magic my friend, much magic. Well, actually I'm working on that now. I need to make it look believable prior to showing what I have in mind.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 14, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I've been reading all your post about road building with great interest.  I got  a couple of questions for you

1 .) Did I understand correctly that you use 1ply cardboard like the type you find at Wal-Mart to make art PROJECT?
2.) Two lane highways are 21' or 22' feet wide
3.) Do you prime your cardboard before installing it to the layout?
4.) What's colors do you use for the asphalt?  For your striping? Is that just the Woodland Scenics paint?
5.) Do you sand or texture the cardboard in any way?

I ask all this because your highway road photos look so good I think they are prefect!

As always, a masterful job sir!  Please add another Diet Pepsi to my tab for your efforts!

;D :D :D


Cousin Brucie,

I'll answer your questions in detail within the next few days. I need to get a few things together first.

By the way, a couple of questions is only two. Seems like you have a least 6-7 that need an answer.  ;D ;D ;D


Couldn't resist my comment and also thank you very much for the kind and generous compliment on the roads.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
I had a very nice visit from John Mancuso, Cuse, this afternoon. The last time Cuse was here the third level wasn't started, no LEDs were installed and the roundhouse turntable area was only in the discussion stages.

Great to see you again John.

I've finished the sand pit and am working on the structure to move the sand from the pit to the bin.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170918180018.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170918180018.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2018, 06:04:37 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170918180032.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170918180048.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 20, 2018, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 14, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I've been reading all your post about road building with great interest.  I got  a couple of questions for you

1 .) Did I understand correctly that you use 1ply cardboard like the type you find at Wal-Mart to make art PROJECT?
2.) Two lane highways are 21' or 22' feet wide
3.) Do you prime your cardboard before installing it to the layout?
4.) What's colors do you use for the asphalt?  For your striping? Is that just the Woodland Scenics paint?
5.) Do you sand or texture the cardboard in any way?

I ask all this because your highway road photos look so good I think they are prefect!

As always, a masterful job sir!  Please add another Diet Pepsi to my tab for your efforts!

;D :D :D


Cousin Brucie,

I'll answer your questions in detail within the next few days. I need to get a few things together first.

By the way, a couple of questions is only two. Seems like you have a least 6-7 that need an answer.  ;D ;D ;D


Couldn't resist my comment and also thank you very much for the kind and generous compliment on the roads.

Tom 8)

Well, I guess you got me there Uncle Tommie.  The trouble is once I get started it seems that the questions just keep a coming!  Must be caused by the fact that I live in a state of constant confusion.  Only thing I Don't seem confused about is what to drink.  Now, where did I leave that open can of Diet Pepsi?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on September 20, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
Tom


As always, great work.  It's good to hear that John made it over to see you.  We were talking about you on our travels together in Minnesota. I think John is in need of more train time and less working for a living time.  Just Sayin! I'll be tuning back in to see your solution to the sand pit. ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 20, 2018, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 16, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 14, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I've been reading all your post about road building with great interest.  I got  a couple of questions for you

1 .) Did I understand correctly that you use 1ply cardboard like the type you find at Wal-Mart to make art PROJECT?
2.) Two lane highways are 21' or 22' feet wide
3.) Do you prime your cardboard before installing it to the layout?
4.) What's colors do you use for the asphalt?  For your striping? Is that just the Woodland Scenics paint?
5.) Do you sand or texture the cardboard in any way?

I ask all this because your highway road photos look so good I think they are prefect!

As always, a masterful job sir!  Please add another Diet Pepsi to my tab for your efforts!

;D :D :D


Cousin Brucie,

I'll answer your questions in detail within the next few days. I need to get a few things together first.

By the way, a couple of questions is only two. Seems like you have a least 6-7 that need an answer.  ;D ;D ;D


Couldn't resist my comment and also thank you very much for the kind and generous compliment on the roads.

Tom 8)

Well, I guess you got me there Uncle Tommie.  The trouble is once I get started it seems that the questions just keep a coming!  Must be caused by the fact that I live in a state of constant confusion.  Only thing I Don't seem confused about is what to drink.  Now, where did I leave that open can of Diet Pepsi?


Not a problem Cousin Brucie, not a problem at all.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on September 20, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
Tom


As always, great work.  It's good to hear that John made it over to see you.  We were talking about you on our travels together in Minnesota. I think John is in need of more train time and less working for a living time.  Just Sayin! I'll be tuning back in to see your solution to the sand pit. ;)


John,

Thanks very much, I appreciate you looking in. Yea, I agree in that John needs to schedule more down time for working on the layout. Of course then there is the fact he is making a ton of money as well.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
Cousin Brucie,

In the next couple of weeks I'll be installing a few roads and will go into more detail on how I do them. But for now, I'll give you a compendium of how I did the others.

If you go Part 1 of the A&S thread you'll get some info on how I did some of them. Pages 120-128 I think.

The next two photos are of roads done with 1 ply cardboard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175916.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175916.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175931.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175931.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
I did the main road with 2 ply cardboard. Two ply is harder to cut. I had to use a Stanley box cutter for the 2 ply as the #11 blades gave out way to soon.

These photos are of a 2 ply highway. However, the road to the left of the guard rail and the parking lot is all 1 ply cardboard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175947.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918175947.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918180004.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918180004.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
For the roadway stripping I used KwikStripe by Great Plains. They make this tape for stripping airplanes.

I use 1/16" White.

By the way, Great Planes is out of business. I got mine from Jim's Trains and Hobbies out west somewhere.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918180021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210918180021.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2018, 06:15:17 PM
Cousin Brucie,

If you don't mind I'm not going to go into a long list here of how I did the roads.

As mentioned, I'll be doing a few new roads in the coming weeks and will go into much more detail with photos as I do them.

Thanks for your patience. Now, have an ice cold Diet Pepsi on me.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on September 22, 2018, 09:45:58 AM
Hey Tom:

I have to say that you do beautiful work on the RR. Yu can be very proud of it.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 22, 2018, 09:56:00 AM
Great work on the whole sand complex. I can't wait to see it in person
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 23, 2018, 12:20:43 AM
Thanks Tom. 
I am looking at doing some new sections of railroad after I recover from some nagging illnesses.  Your roads look amazing and simple to build and I want to give them a try.  My problem is that in Boise ID sometimes finding RR supplies can be a challenge when your best hobby store for RR stuff is Micheals.

Hopefully their will be some details coming soon on my evil projects in the works.  I have two on the bench that I am trying to wrap up for next month's NMRA modeling contest here in Boise.  I plan on posting threads on these projects after the contest.  Add oddly, one is in O scale!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on September 22, 2018, 09:45:58 AM
Hey Tom:

I have to say that you do beautiful work on the RR. Yu can be very proud of it.

Karl


Karl,

You are very kind and generous with the compliment. Thank you, much appreciated as always. I'm very satisfied with the work to this point.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 22, 2018, 09:56:00 AM
Great work on the whole sand complex. I can't wait to see it in person


Curt,

Thank you, appreciate you checking in. Come by anytime my friend, just call and make sure I'll be here.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 23, 2018, 12:20:43 AM
Thanks Tom. 
I am looking at doing some new sections of railroad after I recover from some nagging illnesses.  Your roads look amazing and simple to build and I want to give them a try.  My problem is that in Boise ID sometimes finding RR supplies can be a challenge when your best hobby store for RR stuff is Micheals.

Hopefully their will be some details coming soon on my evil projects in the works.  I have two on the bench that I am trying to wrap up for next month's NMRA modeling contest here in Boise.  I plan on posting threads on these projects after the contest.  Add oddly, one is in O scale!


Cousin Brucie,

I know you've been having some heath issues and I wish there was something I could do to help other than offer Diet Pepsi's.

Our local hobby shop is dropping a few lines of products. They say the companies are closing the doors and it is hard for them to keep stuff in stock when they can't get what they need. Of course, this trickles down to the consumer as well.

I'm relying more and more on the internet for stuff although I know it doesn't help the local hobby shop. I have to get what I need no matter where.

I'll be starting the roads in a few days.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on September 25, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
I sure wish the roads in Jersey looked that good!!

Beautiful work Tom.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Jerry on September 25, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
I sure wish the roads in Jersey looked that good!!

Beautiful work Tom.

Jerry


Jerry,

The one great thing about Florida roads is that we don't have to fight the snow and water freezing in the cracks making the roads even worse. Sure, we get our potholes but they are small compared to some I've crossed up north.

Thank you for the compliment on the layout and for looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:01:51 PM
One of the things I debated in my mind was whether to use Tortoise motors to control the turnouts in the center island area. As mentioned, the width of the layout here is only 24 inches. All turnouts can be easily reached from either side of the isle.

I finally decided to NOT use Tortoise switch motors. Every turnout will be literally a hand throw. Not those big black "out of scale" throws. Just plain old "five fingered hand throws".


I'm not sure anyone has noticed the black areas under each turnout. Here is what I'm referring to.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113824.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113838.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113838.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:08:04 PM
These areas were marked with a black magic marker. The area directly under the throw bar will remain free of ballast. This is another reason I marked the area in black.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113854.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113854.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114057.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114057.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
On the outside track I used Arizona Rock ballast. I used it here, on the island area, but experienced an issue with the ballast "floating" after the matte medium/glue was applied.

I didn't experience this at all with the rest of the layout. Here is what I'm referring to. You can see the ballast has floated and dried on the ties and up against the rails.

Not to bad in the next two photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg)



More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:18:44 PM
Much worse in these photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113938.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113938.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113952.jpeg)

This isn't a big deal but one that took some extra time and effort to correct.

This may be very common and basic in ballasting track but it's the first time I've experienced the issue.

To remove the offending ballast I started by rubbing my fingers on the ballast to remove it. After a while, my fingers were somewhat sore and raw on the tips. Yea, stupid me!

I could have just rubbed my fingers across some course sandpaper for the same result on the finger tips.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
Then the lights came on in my head and I decided that rubbing the ballast with my fingers hurt, so I stopped.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


I cut a piece of cork roadbed and used it to remove the offending ballast.

Piece of fresh cork - Before

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114022.jpeg)

Cork - After

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114038.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114038.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
Here is how the track and ballast looked after using the cork to remove the excess ballast stones.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114007.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114007.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114111.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918114111.jpeg)

Another lesson learned and a new technique for removing excess ballast all in one.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 25, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 23, 2018, 12:20:43 AM
Thanks Tom. 
I am looking at doing some new sections of railroad after I recover from some nagging illnesses.  Your roads look amazing and simple to build and I want to give them a try.  My problem is that in Boise ID sometimes finding RR supplies can be a challenge when your best hobby store for RR stuff is Micheals.

Hopefully their will be some details coming soon on my evil projects in the works.  I have two on the bench that I am trying to wrap up for next month's NMRA modeling contest here in Boise.  I plan on posting threads on these projects after the contest.  Add oddly, one is in O scale!



Cousin Brucie,

I know you've been having some heath issues and I wish there was something I could do to help other than offer Diet Pepsi's.

Our local hobby shop is dropping a few lines of products. They say the companies are closing the doors and it is hard for them to keep stuff in stock when they can't get what they need. Of course, this trickles down to the consumer as well.

I'm relying more and more on the internet for stuff although I know it doesn't help the local hobby shop. I have to get what I need no matter where.

I'll be starting the roads in a few days.

Tom  ;D


Thank you Tom,
Diet Pepsi and prayers are always cheerfully accept around here!  I've been trying to get to the modeling bench each day for a little help in coping with everything that's come my way this year. Right now the big problem is finding a set of meds that work and don't give me major side effects.  When they find the right bunch, I think things will get a lot better.  In the mean time I have outlined a bunch of RR projects to work on so it should keep me busy for a while.  Some might even show up in Salt Lake for the NMRA National convention next year if all goes according to plan.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Erieman on September 25, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
On the outside track I used Arizona Rock ballast. I used it here, on the island area, but experienced an issue with the ballast "floating" after the matte medium/glue was applied.

I didn't experience this at all with the rest of the layout. Here is what I'm referring to. You can see the ballast has floated and dried on the ties and up against the rails.

Not to bad in the next two photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg)



More in a few.


Tom,


That is very interesting. I have not seen that happen with any of Arizona rock ballast, that is why i recommended it to you. Any thoughts? Could the Matte Medium / glue mix have somehow gone bad. I am just guessing, but would be glad to contact them and ask them your their thoughts. Let me know. Do you still have a lot of their ballast left?


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 26, 2018, 08:02:09 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 25, 2018, 09:40:07 PM


Thank you Tom,
Diet Pepsi and prayers are always cheerfully accept around here!  I've been trying to get to the modeling bench each day for a little help in coping with everything that's come my way this year. Right now the big problem is finding a set of meds that work and don't give me major side effects.  When they find the right bunch, I think things will get a lot better.  In the mean time I have outlined a bunch of RR projects to work on so it should keep me busy for a while.  Some might even show up in Salt Lake for the NMRA National convention next year if all goes according to plan.


Bruce,

Not a problem. Getting the meds correct is the best place to start. I really hate taking any kind of meds as the side effects are more scary than the reason to be taking them in the first place.

In the mean time I'll continue to take my daily dose of Diet Pepsi!  ;D ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 26, 2018, 08:08:08 AM
Quote from: Erieman on September 25, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 25, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
On the outside track I used Arizona Rock ballast. I used it here, on the island area, but experienced an issue with the ballast "floating" after the matte medium/glue was applied.

I didn't experience this at all with the rest of the layout. Here is what I'm referring to. You can see the ballast has floated and dried on the ties and up against the rails.

Not to bad in the next two photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113908.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250918113923.jpeg)



More in a few.


Tom,


That is very interesting. I have not seen that happen with any of Arizona rock ballast, that is why i recommended it to you. Any thoughts? Could the Matte Medium / glue mix have somehow gone bad. I am just guessing, but would be glad to contact them and ask them your their thoughts. Let me know. Do you still have a lot of their ballast left?


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thanks for checking in on the thread. You've heard the expression. "It isn't the bow and arrow, but the indian." Well, I think it was how I applied the glue.

I realized after the post I used a large pipette to apply the matte medium. The pressure of squirting the medium on the ballast pushed it up over the ties and against the rails.

On the other ballast, meaning the ballast on the rest of the second level, I used a spray bottle to add the medium.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on September 26, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
Good afternoon. Home from pt session cardiologist this afternoon maybe some bench time. I am trying to finish up multiple small buildings. Have a good rest of the day. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on October 09, 2018, 04:03:46 PM
This past weekend I had the opportunity to show off/run my new Atlas, Central New Jersey, Alco HH660 on the center aisle of the A&S.  In the process it uncovered a couple of places where feeder wires need to attached to some short sections of track.  It just now occurred to me that it's likely these never showed up for Tom and the Judge prior to this because most of their engines are equipped with the "Stay Alive" type decoders so they would have plenty of power to waltz right over any dead sections of track.  The Atlas loco doesn't have that so it's good for detecting spots which might be dead when the switches aren't aligned properly.   :D 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on September 26, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
Good afternoon. Home from pt session cardiologist this afternoon maybe some bench time. I am trying to finish up multiple small buildings. Have a good rest of the day. Jim


Jim,

Hope all is well after the Cardiologist visit. Was it just routine or something else?

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2018, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 09, 2018, 04:03:46 PM
This past weekend I had the opportunity to show off/run my new Atlas, Central New Jersey, Alco HH660 on the center aisle of the A&S.  In the process it uncovered a couple of places where feeder wires need to attached to some short sections of track.  It just now occurred to me that it's likely these never showed up for Tom and the Judge prior to this because most of their engines are equipped with the "Stay Alive" type decoders so they would have plenty of power to waltz right over any dead sections of track.  The Atlas loco doesn't have that so it's good for detecting spots which might be dead when the switches aren't aligned properly.   :D


Bob,

That little switcher was nice. Ran well also. Just so you know all the feeders have been added where needed.

You are probably correct in that the WOW decoders and keep alives covered the problem of the three inch dead zone between the turnouts.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2018, 05:06:00 PM
As Bob mentioned, we found some dead zones in the turntable roundhouse area. All of the locomotives operating on the A&S RR have TCS WOW sound installed. Each of these also have the KA, keep alive capacitor.

So, the A&S RR never had a loco stall. That is until a leased CNJ Alco came to visit. The Alco has DCC but not the KA feature.

I also discovered I was inadvertently cutting power to the reverse loop via one of the PECO turnouts.

The reverse loop around and behind the turntable roundhouse area has one PECO turnout in the reverse loop. My PECO turnouts are also power routed turnouts. Meaning when the turnout is thrown one way, it cuts power the other way or route.

Referring to the photo below, the turnout is the one that controls the sand pit track. When the turnout is thrown for the sand pit siding, the reverse loop power is totally lost.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111018165259.jpeg)

To correct this issue, a set of track feeders were soldered to the north end of the turnout. Problem solved.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2018, 05:19:05 PM
Another area was the very short length of track between the turnouts controlling the two out bound turntable tracks and the track leaving the reverse loop.

In the photo below, the length between the two ballasted turnouts has no power if either one to them is thrown to a diverging route.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111018165315.jpeg)

All the track here was weathered and ballasted. I used a Dremel round brush on the cordless drill to remove the paint from the rail. Once soldered, the solder and rail was repainted and weathered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111018165332.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 11, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
Great to see you posting on this thread again Tom. ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:35:40 AM
Hey Tom.....wasn't Bobs' new loco a hoot.....the diesel made a bunch of fun noise.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on October 12, 2018, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:35:40 AM
Hey Tom.....wasn't Bobs' new loco a hoot.....the diesel made a bunch of fun noise.  ;D ;D ;D



Yeah, but how FAST was it?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on October 12, 2018, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:35:40 AM
Hey Tom.....wasn't Bobs' new loco a hoot.....the diesel made a bunch of fun noise.  ;D ;D ;D



Yeah, but how FAST was it?


Really sloooooooowwwww!  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:31:31 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 11, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
Great to see you posting on this thread again Tom. ;D


Curt,

Nice to be back. The Jenson kit bash is taking longer than I planned. Still having lots of fun though.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:35:40 AM
Hey Tom.....wasn't Bobs' new loco a hoot.....the diesel made a bunch of fun noise.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Yes, it is, but way to slow for your "throttle up" fingers.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on October 12, 2018, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 12, 2018, 08:35:40 AM
Hey Tom.....wasn't Bobs' new loco a hoot.....the diesel made a bunch of fun noise.  ;D ;D ;D



Yeah, but how FAST was it?


Very slow, just like Alco locos are supposed to be. Runs perfectly though.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
After several weeks of switching in and around Tahope, I realized one turnout I installed is in the wrong place. This is the turnout that controls the track to the FSM Dexter's Dead End structures.

As is, I don't have the room for Dexter's unless the turnout is removed and relocated.

Here is how the turnouts fits the area at present.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141558.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141615.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:41:54 PM
The left hand turnout will be removed and a right hand turnout will be installed about 30 inches south of the current one.

Here is where the new turnout will be installed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141633.jpeg)

I'll need to remove the turnout and track between the two arrows as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141652.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:45:57 PM
Prior to removing or attempting to remove the track, I cut the rails between the two turnouts. I cut the rail just left of the end of the turnout rails.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141713.jpeg)

Using a spray bottle, I sprayed warm water on the ballasted area between the two turnouts. I let this set for about 30 minutes.

The warm water softens the glue faster than tap/cold water.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141800.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:48:29 PM
After 30 minutes, I used a putty knife and lifted the track section between the turnouts. I came up very easily.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141822.jpeg)

I may have to go as far back as the third arrow to get the new track to align properly.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141741.jpeg)

Back after finding/getting a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:54:07 PM
The turnout rails are soldered to the track at the point of the pencil as shown. I'll use the soldering gun to unsolder the rails. I do this by applying the solder gun tip to the rail and when the solder softens, I gently move the rail. I'll then move to the other rail and repeat the process.

It only takes two times to get the two rails and rail joiner removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141838.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141853.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:58:22 PM

While the ballast is still damp and loose, I used the putty knife to clean it from the cork.

I then use the slanted edge of a wood chisel to remove the old cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141914.jpeg)

Back in a few more.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141930.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018141948.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 03:05:20 PM
After removing the old cork there is still some dried glue on the plywood as well as cork. I sprayed warm water on the plywood and let it soak for about 20 minutes.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142023.jpeg)

While the glue was softening, I cleaned the ballast from the removed turnout. PECO turnouts aren't cheap so I wanted to save it.

I wet the turnout ballast and let this sit for about 20 minutes as well. I then used a soft toothbrush to remove the ballast as I rinsed it in the laundry sink.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142004.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
As you can see, the PECO turnout came out nicely as far as the ballast being removed. Now I have a turnout I can reuse and it is already painted and weathered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142128.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142143.jpeg)

I'll finished more of this thread later this afternoon.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
By now I'm guessing that ya'll think I'm some how preoccupied with levels. Actually, I'm preoccupied with flawless track work. As I've said in the past, it is the principal of the 5 P's.

Anyway, after getting the old track, ballast an cork out, I needed to be sure the existing track was still level. When making a repair such as this, it is very easy to let some wet ballast get under the ties and when it hardens you definitely have a bump in the track. Ask me how I know, no, don't, you've already guessed.

While the original track ballast was still wet, I made sure the existing track was still level.

South end -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142038.jpeg)

North end -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142053.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 04:49:17 PM
Making sure the ties are level as well.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018142108.jpeg)

Fast forward and the plywood is now dry from being wet. I let this area dry for about 36 hours.

Okay, don't laugh, I wanted to make sure the plywood wasn't warped.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018150859.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 04:52:57 PM
I still had some dried glue on the plywood although you can't see it, it is there. This dried glue will cause the newly laid cork to have raised portions.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018150919.jpeg)

I wrapped some course sandpaper on a piece of 1X4 and used the edge to sand the area where I removed the old cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018150936.jpeg)

Seeing the Diet Pepsi in the photo reminded me to get one.

Back in a few moments.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:19:30 PM
I then marked the center lines for the new turnout. This mark also marks the center edge of the new cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018150951.jpeg)

I drew in the new mainline center line.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151009.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:22:21 PM
I "X" out the old center line. I don't want any mistakes here.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151024.jpeg)

I test fit the new cork in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151058.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:27:41 PM
I removed the cork and applied a line of glue to the area for the new cork.

NOTE: I just don't apply a bead of glue and lay the cork on top. This can cause uneven cork if not pressed flat.

I apply a bead of glue and then spread it out with my finger to get an even coverage.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151115.jpeg)

I lay the cork in place and press it down making sure the inside edge of the cork is on the black line.

I also use push pins and tap them down with a small hammer. One light tap is all it takes to hold the push pin in the plywood and cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151148.jpeg)

Need to load and crop a few more photos. Back later.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:43:35 PM
I only leave the push pins in place for about 30-45 minutes, just long enough for the glue to set.

I went to the Lynn Armstrong school of building cork roadbed for a turnout. I'll let the next few photos show what I did to get a smooth roadbed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151203.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151216.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:44:11 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151230.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141018151245.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018172843.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018172903.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:45:26 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018172918.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018172934.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:52:21 PM
I guess you can just push the cork together and not worry about how it looks cause you are going to ballast it later.

I'm just saying you will get what you paid for or more importantly you will get the same crappy feedback in running trains as you did when laying the cork.

I always treat the roadbed I'm working on as a model. Again, I refer you to the principle of the 6 P's.

Proper Planning Prevents Pi** Poor Performance.

Nice, neat and professional cork roadbed look. Yes, it will be covered with ballast but the foundation is what makes it work better still.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018172950.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:55:53 PM
The new location of the new turnout can be see in the next photo. Note the old turnout location in the upper part of the photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018173916.jpeg)

I soldered the new turnout in place and found an old section of track from the last layout. If the section of track is more than a foot long, I keep it for short section like this one.

New 3 ft. section on top and the old section on the bottom.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018173929.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:58:10 PM
New track is now in place and soldered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018173944.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018174013.jpeg)

This may be remedial to some but I showed it all the same.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 15, 2018, 05:59:30 PM
My leveling car tells the story. All is smooth and ready for the local Tahope freight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151018173959.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on October 15, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Great instructions Tom , I wish I was that meticulous , I'm afraid I'm not , and have had a lot of luck laying track , repaired mistakes maybe twice on my upper level.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on October 15, 2018, 07:41:42 PM
Tom


Very nice track work! It's all about the details.  I wanted to let you know I put one of your tips to work this weekend.  Removing the ballast off the top of the ties with a piece of roadbed cork.  Works greats! I love the forum - you never stop learning. It's one of those things that when you try it, you think, why didn't I think of that. Anyway thanks for the tip - it has been added to the tool box.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 15, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
Great roadbed and track work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on October 16, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Like your technique for cutting roadbed for switches. Seems to be a method that will yield a better result.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
looking good Uncle Tomie!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on October 24, 2018, 09:00:37 AM
Now that's what you call some fine cork laying.  Beautiful job Tom.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on October 15, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Great instructions Tom , I wish I was that meticulous , I'm afraid I'm not , and have had a lot of luck laying track , repaired mistakes maybe twice on my upper level.


Jan,

Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. I've been using cork roadbed for more years than I care to admit.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on October 15, 2018, 07:41:42 PM
Tom


Very nice track work! It's all about the details.  I wanted to let you know I put one of your tips to work this weekend.  Removing the ballast off the top of the ties with a piece of roadbed cork.  Works greats! I love the forum - you never stop learning. It's one of those things that when you try it, you think, why didn't I think of that. Anyway thanks for the tip - it has been added to the tool box.


John,

Yes, you coined the phrase perfectly, "It's all about the details."

The cork pad idea for removing excess ballast only came about after my fingers were raw.

Thank you as well for the kind compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:38:22 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 15, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
Great roadbed and track work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend. Always good to have you stop by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on October 16, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Like your technique for cutting roadbed for switches. Seems to be a method that will yield a better result.


Larry,

Thank you, appreciate you posting a comment. I've done this since high school and it does make a huge difference when the trains are rolling.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
looking good Uncle Tomie!

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you kind sir. I'm getting anxious to get back on the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Jerry on October 24, 2018, 09:00:37 AM
Now that's what you call some fine cork laying.  Beautiful job Tom.

Jerry


Jerry,

Thanks very much. As John S. said, "It's all about the details."

I'll add, borrowing someone else's phrase, "You get out exactly what you put in."

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
I haven't been working on the layout much lately but am anxious to get back on the job.

I'll be working on the layout in earnest this Sunday. I have a new DCC turntable to install, additional ballasting of the replacement track, roads to install and so on and on it goes.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
I mentioned in a previous post that I ordered a new Walthers DCC 90' turntable. I would have preferred a 110' turntable but my space was limited.

Of course the decision to replace the old one with the new DCC turntable came after 85% the tracks were in position.

Old turntable -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171343.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171409.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
I started by removing all the tracks on the right side of the turntable.

I then removed some track spikes/pins and moved the tree inbound and two outbound tracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171512.jpeg)

Next, I removed the roundhouse tracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171453.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:30:34 PM
The nine roundhouse tracks were placed over the roundhouse stalls in the location where they were removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171536.jpeg)

The old turntable was removed and compared to the new one.

The computer on the new turntable takes up more room on the bottom as you can see. Old one on the left and new one on the right.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171620.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
I measured down an additional inch and removed that portion so the new turntable pit would fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171552.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171605.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:37:26 PM
I decided I liked the security of a full 1X4 brace so I cut old one out and added a new one four inches to the left.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171639.jpeg)

Now the new turntable fits in the old hole with no issues or interference from the old 1X4 brace.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171658.jpeg)

Yepper, I drink a Diet Pepsi while I work to keep me calm and sane. Well, somewhat sane anyway.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2018, 05:39:12 PM
I then began the process of reinstalling the track around the turntable.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171734.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171749.jpeg)

I'll finish the tracks tomorrow.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 29, 2018, 06:49:08 PM
Looks good Tom. Interesting that the pit is darker so it doesn't try to imitate concrete color. Are you going to paint the pit before you redo all the tracks? Hopefully I can get down to see it in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 30, 2018, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 29, 2018, 06:49:08 PM
Looks good Tom. Interesting that the pit is darker so it doesn't try to imitate concrete color. Are you going to paint the pit before you redo all the tracks? Hopefully I can get down to see it in a couple of weeks.

Curt,

Thanks for stopping by. Yea, this pit is a dark grey where as the old one was an aged concrete color. I'll weather this one some but not a lot. Walthers attempts to discourage painting the pit and table. They advise it may interfere with the computer under the bridge and electric eye.

I'll do some chalk weathering at best. Saturday November 10 or 17 will be fine for coming by. You know where I'll be.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Oldguy on October 30, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
Tom, you are a braver man than me, cutting cork with a blade.  I prefer to use my rail nippers.
Your work continues to amaze me.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on October 31, 2018, 02:16:20 PM
Tom - I like the new turntable pit.  I think you can weather it and make it look better than the old one.  Lots of grease, oil and sand (Florida sand) along with some rather flat bits of trash that might have fallen off of a Pacific.  We will have fun being hostelers and moving steamers into the round house Saturday.     

 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim


You're right Jim.....Tom doesn't want me to have any fun..... :'(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim


Jim,

Even if Greg wanted to go "Greg Speed" on the turning of the turntable, he can't. The turntable is geared to move at a snails pace. We'll call this "Tom Speed".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: Judge on October 31, 2018, 02:16:20 PM
Tom - I like the new turntable pit.  I think you can weather it and make it look better than the old one.  Lots of grease, oil and sand (Florida sand) along with some rather flat bits of trash that might have fallen off of a Pacific.  We will have fun being hostelers and moving steamers into the round house Saturday.     




Bill, AKA: Judge,

The pit is in place and tracks are secure. However, the tracks aren't wired yet. Will explain tomorrow.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim


You're right Jim.....Tom doesn't want me to have any fun..... :'(


Greg,

To sum it up, NOPE!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
 A few pages ago I showed how I removed a left hand turnout for a right hand one.

I made a big mistake later. I neglected to paint the rails and weather the ties PRIOR to ballasting.

In the photo below, it is now done. I spent three hours and used a small brush to paint the rails and then paint and weather the ties.

It only took just over three hours to do the 36 inch section along with the turnout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291018171716.jpeg)

And, I'm happy to report no paint got on any of the ballast.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:20:19 PM
The roundhouse, turntable and all of Tahope will be on separate wiring circuits.

To set this up and make it more easy to install and trouble shoot, I installed a plywood panel under the layout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163317.jpeg)

I also installed a small LED light on one of the cross braces.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163331.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on November 02, 2018, 05:26:16 PM
Microbrushes work great for painting rail.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:26:43 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163302.jpeg)


Most of the roundhouse tracks are in place but not wired.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: deemery on November 02, 2018, 05:26:16 PM
Microbrushes work great for painting rail.


dave


Dave,

I used a Floquil 0000 brush for the rail and a Floquil 00 for the ties.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:29:39 PM
All the roundhouse LEDs were wired to the wiring panel.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163403.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:31:31 PM
Over head lights off and interior RH lights on.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163349.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163419.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:40:08 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021118163434.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 05:43:46 PM
The Atlantic and Southern RR has now posted over 4,100 pictures over 406 pages.   ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
That is awesome looking with the overhead lights off. Excellent job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on November 02, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Tom,

The lighting is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: vinceg on November 02, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Quote from: sdrees on November 02, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Tom,

The lighting is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It sure is. Fills the scene nicely. Reflections off the rails in the foreground is a nice effect. Great work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on November 02, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
That roundhouse is WICKED Dr Evil!  Nice job indeed.  Another inspiring model for the forum.  That makes 10,000+ inspiring models now right Tom?

My God, the Diet Pepsi is on me my friend. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on November 03, 2018, 09:16:10 AM

Tom,


I'm onboard with the other comments.  Simply stunning scene! 


The number of posts and photos of the A&S is almost unbelievable.   I cannot even begin to contemplate the sheer dedication required to achieve that huge accomplishment. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 03, 2018, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim


You're right Jim.....Tom doesn't want me to have any fun..... :'(


Greg,

To sum it up, NOPE!

Tom  ;D


Oh darn..... :(  turntable and lighting look great..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 03, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
For once, I agree with Greg.   "turntable and lighting look great" and also Awesome 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on November 03, 2018, 04:11:01 PM
Wow...that looks fantastic!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on November 03, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
WOW, stunning , absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on November 03, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
Tom,
         Beautiful work throughout my friend!
                                                                 Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Raymo on November 03, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Tom, that round house is one "sweet" scene under the lights! Can't wait to see it "cluttered up".
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
That is awesome looking with the overhead lights off. Excellent job Tom.


Curt,

Thank you as always, much appreciated. Now to get the roundhouse tracks wired.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:48:22 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on October 30, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
Tom, you are a braver man than me, cutting cork with a blade.  I prefer to use my rail nippers.
Your work continues to amaze me.


Bob,

Sorry my friend, I missed this post when responding to the others. I've been cutting cork roadbed with a #11 blade for 40+ years. I guess its just second nature at this point. I've never thought of using rail nippers for the cork.

And, thank you for the very kind compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: sdrees on November 02, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Tom,

The lighting is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Steve,

Thank you. Appreciate you following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: vinceg on November 02, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Quote from: sdrees on November 02, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Tom,

The lighting is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It sure is. Fills the scene nicely. Reflections off the rails in the foreground is a nice effect. Great work.


Vince,

Much appreciate the compliment on the LEDs in the roundhouse. It was fun but I'm glad now they are all working.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on November 02, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
That roundhouse is WICKED Dr Evil!  Nice job indeed.  Another inspiring model for the forum.  That makes 10,000+ inspiring models now right Tom?

My God, the Diet Pepsi is on me my friend.


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you cuz for the very generous compliment on the LEDs. Slim finally made some that don't catch fire. Not quite 10,000 but I'm working on it.

I have a Diet Pepsi as I type, thank you.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 03, 2018, 09:16:10 AM

Tom,


I'm onboard with the other comments.  Simply stunning scene! 


The number of posts and photos of the A&S is almost unbelievable.   I cannot even begin to contemplate the sheer dedication required to achieve that huge accomplishment.


Jerry,

Thank you as well. When I build models now, I first think how I plan to light them using LEDs.

As far as the huge accomplishment, it all started with one post, one photo and one page at a time.  :P :P :P  Who would have thought!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:01:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 03, 2018, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 02, 2018, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 31, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 31, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Turntable looks great in its' new home Tom.....let me know when you have it running.  8)


Coopons are on the way...... ;)

You can't do "Greg Speed" on the Turntable. :o :o :o :o

Jim


You're right Jim.....Tom doesn't want me to have any fun..... :'(


Greg,

To sum it up, NOPE!

Tom  ;D


Oh darn..... :(  turntable and lighting look great..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you and not to  worry, you can still use the turntable. In slow motion only.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 03, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
For once, I agree with Greg.   "turntable and lighting look great" and also Awesome 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim


Jim,

Wow, it is truly a miracle. And, thank you for the "ditto" compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: Cuse on November 03, 2018, 04:11:01 PM
Wow...that looks fantastic!


John,

Thank you kind sir, it was fun to do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on November 03, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
WOW, stunning , absolutely fantastic.


Jan,

Thank you, very much appreciate your kind support on the roundhouse lighting.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: tct855 on November 03, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
Tom,
         Beautiful work throughout my friend!
                                                                 Thanx Thom...


Thank you very much my brother. I appreciate you taking time away from the business to post.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Raymo on November 03, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Tom, that round house is one "sweet" scene under the lights! Can't wait to see it "cluttered up".


Dan,

Thanks very much. Yes, I can't wait to get all the details and people working in and around the area, "clutter and all.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
I have a little, okay, a big BOO-BOO to report.

Yesterday, the Judge and I decided to run a passenger train for a change. As luck would have it we needed to bring it up from the bottom/staging level.

When backing out the Pennsy passenger consist, all the cars were derailing.

I'll just cut to the chase here and not write a screed of the events.

When pouring the resin water in the Suwannee River Lagoon area, I did check for any leaks to the lower level. Well, there was one I missed or didn't see.

In the photo below, you can see what appears to be a wet streak down the wall behind the turnout. At one time it was wet.

Thank you the Lord it was only a small leak from above. It pooled a little at the turnout and glued the turnout in the closed position. So when backing out the train, all cars derailed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041118151804.jpeg)

I only had about 14 inches of clearance to make the repair.

I will spare ya'll all the #&(*@#$)! words and say after three plus hours the turnout was fixed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 04, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
You sound like me Tom. Poor Pennsy passenger consist :'(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2018, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 04, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
You sound like me Tom. Poor Pennsy passenger consist :'(


Curt,

Needless to say, I wasn't a happy camper making that repair.

PRR A-B-A E Units, 3 head end cars and 9 passenger cars. Only the E Units failed to derail. Dang that is a long train.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041118165951.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041118170006.jpeg)

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 04, 2018, 06:04:23 PM
But so worth it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 05, 2018, 07:55:59 AM
I bet you invented a few new cuss words while you were making that repair.   :D  It had to hit a turnout didn't?  Glad to hear you were able to make repairs.  A minor setback in the grand scheme of things.  The roundhouse looks terrific!   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on November 05, 2018, 08:02:56 AM
"Cuss sessions" is how I measure the frustration level of a given project.  When it gets over 3 Cuss Sessions, it's time to set it aside and try something else for a while.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on November 05, 2018, 08:08:57 AM
Murphy lives!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
Stuff happens in the best of families.....at least it didn't drip on any brass.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 05, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
Stuff happens in the best of families.....at least it didn't drip on any brass.  ;)

At least it didn't drip on anything to Limit "Greg Speed" in the yards. :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 05, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
Stuff happens in the best of families.....at least it didn't drip on any brass.  ;)

At least it didn't drip on anything to Limit "Greg Speed" in the yards. :o :o :o

Jim


He won't let me do "Greg Speed" in the yards Jim..... :'(


Come to think of it, he is posting speed restrictions all over the place.....Tahope downtown, turntable, yards, past farmer whats-his-names pasture, passenger stations, freight yards, ovalix.....will this ever end or will the cop in him keep adding limits till there is nowhere to let out that throttle?.....oh the humanity!  :(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on November 06, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
For the repair, was it a replacement of the switch or were you able to remove the "offending material?"
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 05, 2018, 07:55:59 AM
I bet you invented a few new cuss words while you were making that repair.   :D  It had to hit a turnout didn't?  Glad to hear you were able to make repairs.  A minor setback in the grand scheme of things.  The roundhouse looks terrific!   ;D


Bob,

Yes, I did come up with a few new cuss words. It definitely tested my Christianity.

Thanks for the compliment on the roundhouse, it turned out better than expected.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: deemery on November 05, 2018, 08:02:56 AM
"Cuss sessions" is how I measure the frustration level of a given project.  When it gets over 3 Cuss Sessions, it's time to set it aside and try something else for a while.


dave


Dave,

I wanted to set this project off to the side a few times but also wanted to get it finished. I didn't want to have it on my mind when trying sleep.

Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on November 05, 2018, 08:08:57 AM
Murphy lives!


Chip,

Yes, it seems like he has followed me all my life. If I ever find out where he lives I may loose my Christianity all over again.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
Stuff happens in the best of families.....at least it didn't drip on any brass.  ;)


Greg,

I would have preferred to have it drip on the brass. That would be much easier to fix/repair.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 05, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 05, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
Stuff happens in the best of families.....at least it didn't drip on any brass.  ;)

At least it didn't drip on anything to Limit "Greg Speed" in the yards. :o :o :o

Jim


Jim,

I can set Greg's "Greg Speed" any time, any where.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on November 06, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
For the repair, was it a replacement of the switch or were you able to remove the "offending material?"


Larry,

At first I thought it would be a switch replacement. When I actually got the switch "unstuck", I decided to try and save it. Once the turnout was pulled up, I worked on getting the dried resin off the plywood where the turnout was stuck.

When that failed, I then decided to work on getting the points unstuck. This turned out to be much easier than expected. I simply used the putty knife and ran it down between the stock rail and point rail. It popped loose and I then used a small needle file to remove the resin from the rail.

It took longer to get it back in place with the Tortoise linkage up through the throw bar than actually making the repairs. The turnout was soldered to the yard tracks so all the work was completed between the two levels.

It was a long three hours either way.



Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:49:30 PM
I got all the roundhouse tracks in place and wires soldered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118135845.jpeg)

I cut a small square from some Masonite and installed the control panel just under the fascia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118135859.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
I dedicated a 12 volt power supply to the turntable.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118135942.jpeg)

Birds eye view of the area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118135913.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 09, 2018, 03:00:26 PM
In the next photo you can see the turntable bridge in a position where on each end is marked "No Track".

This is a dead zone for the track on the bridge. This position is where the turntable reverses the track polarity. In this position the rails on the turntable are dead.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118141656.jpeg)

It doesn't mean I can't put rails there, which I will, but it means these tracks are not usable for active service.

I'll place some railroad related items or non revenue rolling stock on these tracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091118135926.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 09, 2018, 03:43:20 PM
Great job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on November 09, 2018, 08:26:52 PM
Hi Tom,

Are you sure you have enough tracks around your turntable?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Are the runoff tracks long enough?

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:17:47 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 09, 2018, 03:43:20 PM
Great job Tom.


Curt,

Thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:18:36 AM
Quote from: sdrees on November 09, 2018, 08:26:52 PM
Hi Tom,

Are you sure you have enough tracks around your turntable?


Steve,

No, I have room for two more!  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Are the runoff tracks long enough?

Jim


Jim,

Yes, they are unless Greg comes out of the roundhouse at "Greg Speed".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Are the runoff tracks long enough?

Jim


Jim,

Yes, they are unless Greg comes out of the roundhouse at "Greg Speed".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D


Now wait a minute.....you told me that under no circumstances am I to get up to "Greg Speed" in the roundhouse "area". So why would I need need extra long track if I'm not doing "Greg Speed"?  ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 10, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Are the runoff tracks long enough?

Jim


Jim,

Yes, they are unless Greg comes out of the roundhouse at "Greg Speed".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D


Now wait a minute.....you told me that under no circumstances am I to get up to "Greg Speed" in the roundhouse "area". So why would I need need extra long track if I'm not doing "Greg Speed"?  ???

Bad Brakes ?

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 10, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 09, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Are the runoff tracks long enough?

Jim


Jim,

Yes, they are unless Greg comes out of the roundhouse at "Greg Speed".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D


Now wait a minute.....you told me that under no circumstances am I to get up to "Greg Speed" in the roundhouse "area". So why would I need need extra long track if I'm not doing "Greg Speed"?  ???

Bad Brakes ?

Jim


Luckily no bad brakes today Jim.....I followed all the posted Tahope and roundhouse speeds and Tom even made me pull into and out of the roundhouse.....no accidents.  ::)


I even got to operate the turntable, but there was no "Greg Speed" button to get it going fast enough that the engine got vaulted off the tracks when the emergency stop was applied.  :(


I must confess.....the devil made me do it.....Tom had to run into the house for a minute, so as I came off the turntable, I hit the throttle and went zipping under the coaling tower, but eased off the throttle to get thru Tahope when Tom came back in the shed. I know it was wrong and honestly feel terrible about it.....confession is so good for the soul (especially since Curt would have come on and ratted me out).  ;) ;) ;)


Anyway, I am exhausted from running everything so slowly and think I'll curl up with a book and nod off for awhile.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 10, 2018, 04:11:39 PM
That hurts Greg. ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 10, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
Greg, Did you check for the Security Cameras.


"TOM WAS WATCHING"

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
We had a great time this morning.

I had Curt run the long Pennsy passenger train. He was much slower than even I run it.

Greg made his debut on the turntable and roundhouse tracks. He was in fact very good. However, I knew he did something due to the fact I came back in and the brakes on the Pennsy 2-8-2 were still smoking. And, he immediately confessed due to a guilty conscience.

I put the Judge through some turntable paces and we discovered the turntable wasn't switching polarity to the two outbound tracks.

I'll report back on this issue later after I get it fixed.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 10, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
Greg, Did you check for the Security Cameras.


"TOM WAS WATCHING"

Jim


Oh crap.....I thought I was in the clear with Bill all the way down at the other end.....darn,,,darn...darn.  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 05:40:21 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 10, 2018, 04:11:39 PM
That hurts Greg. ;)


Okay, you wouldn't have. I should have more kind and thoughtful of your feelings, but the guilt made me nuts.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 10, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
We had a great time this morning.

I had Curt run the long Pennsy passenger train. He was much slower than even I run it.

Greg made his debut on the turntable and roundhouse tracks. He was in fact very good. However, I knew he did something due to the fact I came back in and the brakes on the Pennsy 2-8-2 were still smoking. And, he immediately confessed due to a guilty conscience.

I put the Judge through some turntable paces and we discovered the turntable wasn't switching polarity to the two outbound tracks.

I'll report back on this issue later after I get it fixed.

Tom  ;D


Darn...darn...darn.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:01:36 PM

Well, once again I'm very far behind on the thread in relation to the progress updates. I have about 45 photos to get ya'll caught up. I had one electrical issue I couldn't solve for several days.

When the turntable was installed and the corresponding tracks were wired, all worked as planned except for two tracks. These are the two tracks on the upper right of the turntable and left of the roundhouse as viewed in the below photo.

These are the two outbound tracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118174837.jpeg)

Call it Murphy's Law or the story of the Blue Whale, either one, the loco would short coming off the turntable onto these two tracks. The polarity of these two tracks are the same as the others.

I spent several hours/days trying to figure it out and kept referring to my wiring as a possible source of the short. No solution I came up with worked.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:11:44 PM
I asked around and apparently this is a common problem with the Walther's DCC turntable.

Regardless, this common problem doesn't solve the issue.

Here is what I came up with to make it work.

These two outbound tracks are just under 4 feet in length.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118174851.jpeg)

I decided to treat them as individual reverse loops.

I used super glue and glued the ties to the plywood and the rail to the ties. I used the Dremel cut off disc to cut gaps into the rail. The super glued ties and rail didn't move at all while cutting.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118174906.jpeg)

I then unsoldered the wires from the common buss line and soldered them to the PSX-AR (auto reverse), same as the reverse loop that runs around the back of the roundhouse.

The two tracks now work perfectly. Why, because it's the Story of the Blue Whale. Murphy's Law started the problem and the Blue Whale explains it all.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 27, 2018, 06:19:25 PM
Looking fantastic, Tom!

The track work is looking very impressive and the roundhouse amazing!  It sounds like you have a lot of fun as well.  As always, enjoying your continued progress.

Cheers, mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 27, 2018, 06:19:25 PM
Looking fantastic, Tom!

The track work is looking very impressive and the roundhouse amazing!  It sounds like you have a lot of fun as well.  As always, enjoying your continued progress.

Cheers, mark.


Mark,

Thank you, I appreciate you stopping by and posting your comments. Thank you as well for following along on the adventure.

Yes, I'm certainly having a lot of fun in the progress.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:34:24 PM
Now that the electrical issue was is resolved, I plan to detail the roundhouse turntable areas.

I'll began the ballasting and will also highly detail the turntable pit, bridge and track.

I'll tape off the turntable pit and cover the center portion where the electrical contacts go. The concrete pit and sides will be sprayed with Floquil Aged Concrete.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182552.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:38:36 PM
The table rails and bridge girders need to be painted. Notice in the photo below, white shows where these pieces were cut from the plastic carriers.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182605.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182620.jpeg)

These parts will be hand painted weathered black. Now, they look like some variation of grey green.

More in a few, Diet Pepsi time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 27, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
The plastic bridge tender's hut needs to go as well.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182637.jpeg)

I'll deconstruct this hut and use it as a pattern to scratch build one from my scrap box.

I'll add more on this project tomorrow. I've actually done the scratch build already.  8) 8)


Thanks for following along.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on November 27, 2018, 10:27:06 PM
Tom


The turn table and Roundhouse look great.  I will be following your thread when I install my Walthers turntable in the next couple of months. I hate electrical problems.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 09:26:56 AM
John,

Thank you. I've been having fun detailing the turntable pit and bridge.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on November 28, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
I built one of Walthers original 90' turntable kits years ago.  With my operators in mind, I have left the hut and power arch loose, and never applied the plastic railings.  Building stronger railings of wire is on the list.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 28, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Great job Tom. I'm glad you were able to figure out a work around and that it didn't require another PSX-AR.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 28, 2018, 10:52:18 AM
Tom, You are becoming an Electrical Genius in addition to being a fantastic Modeler.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ndwolf68 on November 28, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
Great gobs o' goose poop!  :o  That's pretty impressive and your solution to the electrical problem is nothimg short of genius. Well done, sir! I'm still a track laying and dcc noob. Will certainly follow along.
R/,
Norm
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on November 28, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
Looking great Tom.  Nice solution on the wiring of those two tracks.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 05:57:11 PM
Quote from: jbvb on November 28, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
I built one of Walthers original 90' turntable kits years ago.  With my operators in mind, I have left the hut and power arch loose, and never applied the plastic railings.  Building stronger railings of wire is on the list.


James,

The older Walthers turntables were in quasi kit form. My first one had the hut and railing in a plastic bag for adding at the owners choice.

This one has the hut and handrails already glued in place. These railings will be fine as the turntable is powered and there is no reason to be touching it.

Thanks for checking in.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 28, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Great job Tom. I'm glad you were able to figure out a work around and that it didn't require another PSX-AR.


Curt,

Thank you. You were here the Saturday I was thinking the only option I had was to treat the two tracks as a reverse loop. As you said, it was a bonus to have it tied into the current reverse loop and not have to use an additional PSX-AR.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 28, 2018, 10:52:18 AM
Tom, You are becoming an Electrical Genius in addition to being a fantastic Modeler.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you very much. All the knowledge I have concerning electrical genius, as you say, was learned from you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:07:00 PM
Quote from: ndwolf68 on November 28, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
Great gobs o' goose poop!  :o  That's pretty impressive and your solution to the electrical problem is nothimg short of genius. Well done, sir! I'm still a track laying and dcc noob. Will certainly follow along.
R/,
Norm


Norm,

Thank you for the kind compliment. I got lucky on the treating the two outbound tracks as reverse loops. I think we all start out as noobs in one field or another. I'm still learning in all aspects of railroad modeling.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Jerry on November 28, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
Looking great Tom.  Nice solution on the wiring of those two tracks.

Jerry


Jerry,

Much  appreciated, thank you. As I mentioned the idea of treating them as a reverse loop was the only option I could think of. And, thank the Lord it worked.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:12:11 PM
My first surgery on the turntable bridge was to remove the operators hut.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182637.jpeg)

It was glued to the bridge deck via four small plastic nubs. I used a #17 Xacto blade and sliced the four nubs to remove the hut.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182708.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:19:44 PM
My plan was to use the hut as a model to scratch build a new one out of scale lumber.

I used a new #11 blade and cut around the top of the walls. I then used the #17 blade to pry the roof up and off.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182651.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182722.jpeg)

I need to load and crop more photos so I'll be back in a few minutes. I may as well grab a cold Diet Pepsi.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
Getting the for walls apart was much easier than I thought. All I did was apply a little pressure to pull them apart. Very little Chinese glue was used the hold the hut walls together.  ;D ;D ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182023.jpeg)

I also needed to get the window glsss out so I could trace the window opening.

I used a #11 blade and traced around the window to cut through the glue.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182040.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:32:46 PM
I used a #17 blade to "pop" out the window glass/plastic.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182056.jpeg)

I only needed to remove the glass from one side and one end wall.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182110.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:34:50 PM
I made two side walls using the plastic wall as a template. I'm only showing one.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182126.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182205.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:36:33 PM
I then repeated the process using the end wall.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182227.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182241.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:37:49 PM
All four walls cut and ready for detailing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182256.jpeg)

Little break here, I forgot the Diet Pepsi.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:44:19 PM
I'm going to cut to the chase here. If I took photos of the entire process of detailing the four walls, I'd have another 60 photos. Since I'm not trying to catch John on post numbers, I left out that part. I didn't take any photos of that process.

I used a combination of HO scale 1 X 4, 2 X 2, 2 X 4 and 2 X 6's to trim the window openings and wall corners.

Here is a photo of one of the end walls.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182312.jpeg)

Next, was the gluing of the four walls.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182329.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
The hut door is on the right.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182343.jpeg)

All  four walls fit and glued together as planned, er as cut.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182400.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:49:20 PM
Prior to adding any corner trim, I made sure the walls were square and secure while the glue set and dried - overnight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182417.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182431.jpeg)

Adding the corner trim was next along with a light coat of Hunterline Light Grey A&I.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:51:03 PM
Corner trim was added.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182446.jpeg)

Light wash of Light Grey A&I applied next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182501.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 28, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
After the A&I was dry, a wash of 70% thinner to 30% Floquil Reefer White was applied.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182529.jpeg)

When dry but not yet cured, a second coat of the 70/30 wash was added.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281118182516.jpeg)

I'll have more on this build tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on November 28, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
Tom,

You must really hate plastic models!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on November 28, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Nice job!  There's no substitute for a full set of scale lumber (styrene and wood) when it comes to scratchbuilding and kitbashing.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 28, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Really nice job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 08:26:36 AM
Quote from: sdrees on November 28, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
Tom,

You must really hate plastic models!


Steve,

No, I just wanted a different look and wanted to try my hand at a very small scratch build.

Thanks for following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 08:29:09 AM
Quote from: deemery on November 28, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Nice job!  There's no substitute for a full set of scale lumber (styrene and wood) when it comes to scratchbuilding and kitbashing.


dave


Dave,

Thank you. I have a full set of wood but not one in styrene. You are correct as it does come in handy when building. I've even had to replace some kit parts and that is when it really comes in handy.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 08:29:52 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 28, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Really nice job Tom.

Curt,

Thank you as always my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:03:52 PM
I set the turntable hut to the side and painted the turntable bridge.

I used Floquil's Weathered Black.

You can see the difference in the color by looking at the bottom of the bridge. The weathered black sure looks more realistic than the shinny plastic color.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125315.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:05:58 PM
The bridge arch was also painted with the Floquil Weathered Black.

Before painting -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182620.jpeg)

After painting -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125346.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:11:04 PM
Time to add some real wood to the turntable bridge deck.

This is how it looks out of the box.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271118182605.jpeg)

I first painted the rails with Floquil Rail Brown and the cross ties with Floquil Railroad Tie Brown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118131009.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Lynnb on November 29, 2018, 01:13:56 PM
Just spent the past 3 days of my vacation going through Part 1 - Part 3, really enjoyed the reading, nice to see everything is on Level.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:14:52 PM
I stressed 14 scale 2 X 10's and stained them with Hunterline Medium Brown A&I.

When dry, I began gluing them to the deck over the plastic 2 X10's.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125331.jpeg)

I trimmed the ends and then sanded them to the curve of the end of the table.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125403.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on November 29, 2018, 01:13:56 PM
Just spent the past 3 days of my vacation going through Part 1 - Part 3, really enjoyed the reading, nice to see everything is on Level.  :)


Lynn,

Thank you; however, I can think of better ways to spend your vacation. Funny, I went back and reread it a few months ago and it took me a few days as well.

I decided to make the scenery on this layout rise above and below the track level. The only incline I have is on the Ovalix.

Thank you for spending the time reading all the parts. You also viewed about 4,125 photos.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:20:31 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125534.jpeg)


I also added planking to the top of the arch.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125550.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:22:42 PM
I forgot to mention how I weathered the planking after it was glued to the deck.

I used the back side of an Emory board and sanded the tops making it look a little more weathered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125605.jpeg)

Taking a Diet Pepsi break, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 29, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
That's quite a dramatic difference between the before and after pictures of the stuff you've done so far on the turn table.   :o  :o  :o   Well worth the effort!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
I added a turntable operator and glass to the hut. I used clear acetate for the window glass. The operator is a Preiser Engineer.

I also wanted to have the roof curve like the plastic one. I used scale 2 x 10's and glued them to the top.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125620.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125634.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 29, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
That's quite a dramatic difference between the before and after pictures of the stuff you've done so far on the turn table.   :o :o :o   Well worth the effort!


Bob,

Thank you and yes, it was well worth the effort. It changes the entire look of the Walthers turntable for sure.  ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:40:46 PM
The roof on the hut doesn't look bad as is but I guess it would leak like a sieve.  8) 8)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125740.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125753.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:41:40 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125833.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125814.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Time to cover the roof on the hut.

I used an Emory board and sanded the roof to the curve of the end walls. I only sanded perpendicular to the boards.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125723.jpeg)

I've been wanting to try a new technique of adding roofing for the past 20+ years. This is such a small project so if I messed up I could simply pull of the 2 X 10's and start over.

I took a piece of tissue paper, not Kleenex, but gift tissue paper and cut it to the roof size.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125706.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
I then painted some Floquil  Grimy Black to the two boards on the right. I then placed the tissue over the wet paint. I did this two boards at a time and let the tissue paper fall into place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125849.jpeg)

As you can see the paint soaks through the tissue paper.

I did have to touch up a couple of places. Here is how it turned out.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125901.jpeg)

More in a few.










Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2018, 01:55:52 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291118125916.jpeg)


I still need to weather the sides of the turntable with some rust.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 01, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Wonderful job on the turntable Tom!  I really like the wood boards you added to the table.  Looks very cool.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 01, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
Outstanding Tom. I will be imitating you with mine.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 02, 2018, 08:28:26 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 01, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Wonderful job on the turntable Tom!  I really like the wood boards you added to the table.  Looks very cool.


Bruce,

Thank you, much appreciated. The addition of the table planking helps make it look much better and less of a plastic model.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 02, 2018, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 01, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
Outstanding Tom. I will be imitating you with mine.


Curt,

Thank you as well. Happy I could pass on some tips for others to use.

For the glue, I applied Elmer's Carpenter Wood Glue with a tooth pick to the underside of the plank and carefully laid it over the plastic. I staggered the planks to give it a more weathered pattern.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
Today I painted the turntable pit.

First, I used painter's tape to cover the ring rail and bottom gear teeth.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162624.jpeg)

I then trimmed the tape for painting the pit area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162640.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:39:04 PM
I taped off the track as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162655.jpeg)

I cut several small pieces of Christmas wrap paper.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162709.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:42:44 PM
I covered almost anything that may get some paint over spray.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162724.jpeg)

I used rattle can paint to paint the pit and side walls. The closest I could find to Floquil Aged Concrete was Krylon Matte River Rock.

I sprayed this color on the pit and sides.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162738.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:46:05 PM
The matte finish had a little shine when dry. I waited two hours.  I used Testor's rattle can Dull Coat and sprayed the pit to remove the shine.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162838.jpeg)

Back in a few, Diet Pepsi time.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:49:54 PM
It turned out to be a very close match in color to the aged concrete by Floquil. I do have two bottles of Floquil Aged Concrete but didn't want to use it here when I found a match.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162854.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162908.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 04, 2018, 04:52:04 PM
After a few more hours, I removed all the paper and tape.

Up next is cleaning the end tracks, painting the rails and ties and of course turntable weathering.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-041218162922.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 04, 2018, 05:12:17 PM
Very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on December 04, 2018, 05:43:49 PM

Tom,


That looks great!  Where did you find Krylon Matte River Rock?  I've never seen it in my travels.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 05, 2018, 07:29:16 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great where did you get the spry paint. I need some of that.

Thanks karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 05, 2018, 08:43:30 AM
Man, that's a huge improvement over what you started with.  It looks terrific!   :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 05, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 04, 2018, 05:12:17 PM
Very nice Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 05, 2018, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 04, 2018, 05:43:49 PM

Tom,


That looks great!  Where did you find Krylon Matte River Rock?  I've never seen it in my travels.


Jerry,

Thank you. I got the rattle can at Lowe's.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 05, 2018, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 05, 2018, 07:29:16 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great where did you get the spry paint. I need some of that.

Thanks karl


Karl,

Thank you as well. I got the paint at Lowe's.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 05, 2018, 09:17:11 AM
Here is what the rattle can looks like.

Just remember, it dries to a semi-gloss and will need a Flat/Dull Coat when dry, about an hour.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051218090754.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 05, 2018, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 05, 2018, 08:43:30 AM
Man, that's a huge improvement over what you started with.  It looks terrific!   :D :D :D


Bob,

Yes, it is, and thank you for the compliment. I have a long way to go but then again, I've come a long way. Seems like there is no shortage of projects on the A&S RR.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 09:52:06 AM
Had a nice visit to the ole' A&S yesterday. The modifications to the turntable that Tom made with the wood decking and wood operators shack look great up close.  8)


The cafe with all the interiors detail and little people is terrific and the textured stucco on the Mexican joint is the most realistic I've seen modeled.  8)


Thanks for the fun time and BS Tom (and Bill and Curt).....great work.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 09, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
Tom that looks terrific.  You could have not asked for a better match.

Sure brought the scene to life!!

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 10:39:18 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 09:52:06 AM
Had a nice visit to the ole' A&S yesterday. The modifications to the turntable that Tom made with the wood decking and wood operators shack look great up close.  8)


The cafe with all the interiors detail and little people is terrific and the textured stucco on the Mexican joint is the most realistic I've seen modeled.  8)


Thanks for the fun time and BS Tom (and Bill and Curt).....great work.  :)


Greg,



Yes, The Judge, Curt and you stopped by yesterday. BSing is always good and goes hand in hand with railroad modeling.

Thank you for the kind compliment on the turntable, pit, shack and stucco on the Gusano Loco build.

By the way, don't get to  comfortable with my "thanks".  I have more for you later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 10:41:45 AM
Quote from: Jerry on December 09, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
Tom that looks terrific.  You could have not asked for a better match.

Sure brought the scene to life!!

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you for the kind and generous compliment, much appreciated.

I wasn't sure the Matte River Rock color was going to work but it turned out perfect for what I wanted.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
Dang!  I missed it yesterday.  BBQ and BS are always good!  Maybe next time.  I want to see the new and improved turntable as well as the Mexican joint!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
Dang!  I missed it yesterday.  BBQ and BS are always good!  Maybe next time.  I want to see the new and improved turntable as well as the Mexican joint!


Bob,

Yepper, you did. All are welcome to come by on Saturday, just call to make sure I'll be here.

We did do our share of BSing while BBQing as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 01:01:23 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 10:39:18 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 09:52:06 AM
Had a nice visit to the ole' A&S yesterday. The modifications to the turntable that Tom made with the wood decking and wood operators shack look great up close.  8)


The cafe with all the interiors detail and little people is terrific and the textured stucco on the Mexican joint is the most realistic I've seen modeled.  8)


Thanks for the fun time and BS Tom (and Bill and Curt).....great work.  :)


Greg,



Yes, The Judge, Curt and you stopped by yesterday. BSing is always good and goes hand in hand with railroad modeling.

Thank you for the kind compliment on the turntable, pit, shack and stucco on the Gusano Loco build.

By the way, don't get to  comfortable with my "thanks".  I have more for you later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D


Uh Oh.....that doesn't sound good.....I'm going into the witness protection program this afternoon.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 01:04:54 PM
Greg,

Just be happy I wasn't locked and loaded yesterday when you pulled your stunt. Which by the way, I'll let you stew a few more hours.  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 01:06:46 PM
I'll say it again.....friends are a wonderful thing to have.....I think.  ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 05:19:34 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 09, 2018, 01:06:46 PM
I'll say it again.....friends are a wonderful thing to have.....I think.  ???


Okay folks, it's time to call out Gregory.

Yesterday, Curt brought a tin of Peanut Butter cookies over thanks to his kind wife.

When we got back from the BBQ and prior to the BSing, I took an unsweet tea into the house for the Babe.

I came back out, and Greg, hereafter known as "Greg Crumbs" was stuffing a cookie into his mouth. And, he was leaning over the layout, more importantly the turntable area. I said, "What the Hell are you doing?"

He opened his mouth and peanut butter cookie crumbs fell out and onto and into the turntable pit area. To make matters worse, he takes his finger and tries to pick up the crumbs thereby crushing them onto the pit. When he didn't get them all up, he blows the rest away.

Now, when you blow stuff away, it has to go somewhere does it not?

Well, they did.

Later yesterday I was working on the turntable bridge and it got stuck in one spot. I backed it around and it stopped in the same spot again. I removed the bridge to check the problem.

I found a big, crushed cookie crumb in the pit rail area and jamming the gears. Thanks Greg Crumbs for yet another one of your adventures at my expense.

You just got the throttle privileges back and now you pepper my newly painted turntable pit with cookie crumbs.

Forget Greg Speed, you are now known as Greg Crumbs. Oh by the way, this isn't a term of endearment.

Tom, President and OWNER of the Atlantic and Southern RR.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 09, 2018, 05:31:27 PM
Shame, shame Greg Crumbs :o. I hope the crumbs weren't carried up into the gear tower Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 09, 2018, 05:31:27 PM
Shame, shame Greg Crumbs :o . I hope the crumbs weren't carried up into the gear tower Tom.


Curt,

Thankfully, no, just on the pit rail treads.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on December 09, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
Tom, that's a really crumby story!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on December 09, 2018, 07:05:20 PM
Oh Man, I missed it  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on December 09, 2018, 10:34:56 PM
I am so sorry that I missed the crumby outburst from Greg. :( :( :( :(

Did He get a "time out" :o :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 10, 2018, 08:48:48 AM

Mr. Thomas Langford
President and OWNER of the Atlantic and Southern RR


Dear Sir,


I'm am sorry to inform you that the subject in question, Mr. Smith, is being held incommunicado by a protective security team of our service for the foreseeable future.


The subject has been heard to say that he has no memory or the alleged matter and "knows nothing".


You will be notified of any change in status for the subject.

John "The Eraser" Kruger
U.S. Marshalls Service
U. S. Department of Justice
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2018, 08:57:41 AM
Greg,

Well, with that stated so eloquently, it appears the matter is closed.

With the way my mind has been working lately, I won't even remember the incident, if there was one, in the next few hours.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on December 10, 2018, 10:58:05 AM
Next thing, they'll try waterboarding him with Diet Coke!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on December 10, 2018, 01:01:49 PM
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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on December 10, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 10, 2018, 01:01:49 PM
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 11, 2018, 11:35:08 AM
And I thought "Crummy" was a red conductor's shack found at the end of all proper freight trains.  OHE
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on December 11, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 11, 2018, 11:35:08 AM
And I thought "Crummy" was a red conductor's shack found at the end of all proper freight trains.  OHE

If it please the court.
Crummy: lousy. down on its heels. The interior of my wife's car.
Crumby: an area littered with crumbs. The Christmas cookie plate later. The interior of my daughters car with 3 little ones aboard.
And if it doesn't please the court, find me in contempt. Contempt of court, not the Judge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on December 13, 2018, 01:28:50 PM
Sheesh, what a Crummy Thread this has turned out to be!!   :o   Having fun following along, and as usual I'm just blown away with the speed and detailed work you're doing on the layout.  Can't wait to see it next year on my travels down to Florida.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: MAP on December 13, 2018, 01:28:50 PM
Sheesh, what a Crummy Thread this has turned out to be!!   :o   Having fun following along, and as usual I'm just blown away with the speed and detailed work you're doing on the layout.  Can't wait to see it next year on my travels down to Florida.


Mark,

Looking forward to your visit. And, thank you for the kind words on the progress. I hope to really get back to the layout in a few more weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
We had some great laughs at the the expense of "Greg Crumbs".

Greg and I are very good friends and I told him he is great at giving me fodder for the forum. I told Greg what I was going to do and he agreed to go along with it.

He has been a great sport and now we can get back to the layout.

Thanks to all whom participated in the fun.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
I haven't been idle concerning the layout work.

I do have some stuff to report so hopefully I'll have the photos ready to go for tomorrow afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2018, 06:42:24 PM
I decided Tahope needed a town water tower. I pulled this one out of my unbuilt kit stash.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173544.jpeg)

I was thinking I'll have this glued together and ready for painting in about 30-40 minutes.   Wrong!

This kit was a mess.

The four sides all have 5 tiny pins and the opposite side has 5 tiny holes for the tiny pins on the other side and so on for all sides.

The bottom pin was the only one of the five that match or fit into the hole. The higher you go on the side, bottom to top, the further apart the alignment for the pins/holes.

The bottom hole is where the red pencil is pointing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173600.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2018, 06:52:23 PM
To get all four sides glued together, I had to make a few major modifications.

First, all the top four, 16 total, pins were cut off. Then part of each gusset was trimmed. The higher I went on the tower, the more of the gusset had to be trimmed.

Each level of the cross bracing had rings on the support poles. Each gusset had to be cut to fit just above each rings.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218184609.jpeg)

Then each gusset had to be glued, one at a time, to the poles. Also, they needed to be aligned exactly over the tiny holes so the other sides would line up.

After three hours the four sides were complete. I have to say that during the process, I came very close to throwing the tower kit into file 13.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173614.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2018, 06:53:44 PM
I started the kit around 9 AM  and finished around 1 PM.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173632.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
In other news, I also assembled the Walthers Cinder Conveyor. I already have an ash pit.

This kit went together without a hitch. It only took me about 90 minutes for this one.

It was to damp for spray painting today so I'll wait for a warmer/dryer day.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173922.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-141218173907.jpeg)

I may make a track modification to the ash pit area. Nor sure yet but I'll keep you posted on my ideas. I want think about it for a few days.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 14, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
Great looking work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on December 15, 2018, 07:51:24 AM

Tom,


I like the vertical element the water tower adds to the scene.  That cinder conveyor is pretty cool, too.  Looking forward to seeing it painted and weathered.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 15, 2018, 09:33:14 AM
Hey Tom:

The water tower looks great.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 15, 2018, 12:15:21 PM
Looking good Tom.  I really like the cinder tower very cool!!

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 15, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
Big "neat-o" on the water tower and cinder conveyor.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on December 15, 2018, 12:32:33 PM
This area on you layout is coming together very nicely Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Lynnb on December 15, 2018, 01:51:25 PM
Really coming together nicely, are you going to weather up the tower to blend in with all thise other great looking structures, just a tad too new.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 15, 2018, 05:51:13 PM
Well, it was a cloudy, rainy day here in beautiful Central Florida with the temperature not quite reaching 80 degrees.  It was a productive Saturday. I arrived on station at the A&S home office promptly at 8:30 a.m. and delivered our recently acquired new in the box PFM A&LM ten wheeler, which needed serious conversion work to replace the open frame motor with a can.   A WOW Sound decoder was installed last week.  The engine had a little kink in its get-a-long and tended to short out on turnouts, but Tom saved the day on the short and the kink worked out through a combination of being "run in" and an adjustment to the running gear.  Now she creeps along on speed step one and easily pulls six cars and a caboose through the swamps of the Atlantic & Southern.

We decided to do a little running/switching operation today and started off with uncoupling an ACL USRA 4-8-2A from its tank car train and moving it through Tahope (10 mph and no smoke) to the roundhouse.  It barely fits on the 90' turntable but is now resting with fires banked in stall 4.  Then we coupled a brace of ACL GP7's onto the tank train and shuttled it down the ovalix to one of the staging tracks on the lower level. 

We ran an extra freight powered by an A-B-A set of NC&St.L F3's from Sanlando through Piney Woods and Nathan Bedford Forest before changing power to purple and silver ACL F3's at the diesel facility.  Normally NC&StL units do not venture so far south but there was a weather condition in Atlanta and the train was diverted to avoid unnecessary delay. 

The rest of the day was devoted to switching around the Tahope area and engaging in B.S., which we tend to do every Saturday. 

Hope y'all had as much fun today as Tom and I did. 

OHE   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on December 16, 2018, 08:16:24 AM
Quote from: Judge on December 15, 2018, 05:51:13 PM
Well, it was a cloudy, rainy day here in beautiful Central Florida with the temperature not quite reaching 80 degrees.  It was a productive Saturday. I arrived on station at the A&S home office promptly at 8:30 a.m. and delivered our recently acquired new in the box PFM A&LM ten wheeler, which needed serious conversion work to replace the open frame motor with a can.   A WOW Sound decoder was installed last week.  The engine had a little kink in its get-a-long and tended to short out on turnouts, but Tom saved the day on the short and the kink worked out through a combination of being "run in" and an adjustment to the running gear.  Now she creeps along on speed step one and easily pulls six cars and a caboose through the swamps of the Atlantic & Southern.

We decided to do a little running/switching operation today and started off with uncoupling an ACL USRA 4-8-2A from its tank car train and moving it through Tahope (10 mph and no smoke) to the roundhouse.  It barely fits on the 90' turntable but is now resting with fires banked in stall 4.  Then we coupled a brace of ACL GP7's onto the tank train and shuttled it down the ovalix to one of the staging tracks on the lower level. 

We ran an extra freight powered by an A-B-A set of NC&St.L F3's from Sanlando through Piney Woods and Nathan Bedford Forest before changing power to purple and silver ACL F3's at the diesel facility.  Normally NC&StL units do not venture so far south but there was a weather condition in Atlanta and the train was diverted to avoid unnecessary delay. 

The rest of the day was devoted to switching around the Tahope area and engaging in B.S., which we tend to do every Saturday. 

Hope y'all had as much fun today as Tom and I did. 

OHE



I did not have even a quarter of the fun that the two of you enjoyed and I am soooo jealous!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: vinceg on December 16, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Tom, how wide is that shelf? Looks pretty compact but there's a lot action packed in there.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:32:11 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 14, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
Great looking work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 15, 2018, 07:51:24 AM

Tom,


I like the vertical element the water tower adds to the scene.  That cinder conveyor is pretty cool, too.  Looking forward to seeing it painted and weathered.


Jerry,

I didn't think of it at the time but you are correct. The vertical element compliments the scene very well. The tower and conveyor are now painted. More on that later.

Appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 15, 2018, 09:33:14 AM
Hey Tom:

The water tower looks great.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, much appreciated. More work needs to be done on the tower. It is now painted. I need to decal it and then add weathering.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 15, 2018, 12:15:21 PM
Looking good Tom.  I really like the cinder tower very cool!!

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you. I have plans to add more detail to the conveyor. More on that later.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:38:40 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 15, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
Big "neat-o" on the water tower and cinder conveyor.  8)


Greg,

Much appreciated my friend, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:41:02 PM
Quote from: sdrees on December 15, 2018, 12:32:33 PM
This area on you layout is coming together very nicely Tom.


Steve,

Thank you. This is the first area seen when you walk in. It will be super detailed and I'm getting excited about the things I have planned for it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on December 15, 2018, 01:51:25 PM
Really coming together nicely, are you going to weather up the tower to blend in with all thise other great looking structures, just a tad too new.


Lynn,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by. Yes, the tower will be, and is now, painted. I still need to add the "Tahope" decals and weathering. More on the paint later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 15, 2018, 05:51:13 PM


The rest of the day was devoted to switching around the Tahope area and engaging in B.S., which we tend to do every Saturday. 

Hope y'all had as much fun today as Tom and I did. 

OHE


Bill,

Yes, we had a great time this past Saturday. As you know, I was a bit frustrated with the ten wheeler but after a while it got fixed and now runs like a Swiss watch.

Railroad modeling, great friends, BBQ and BSing just seems to go together.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 16, 2018, 08:16:24 AM




I did not have even a quarter of the fun that the two of you enjoyed and I am soooo jealous!


Jerry,

We can fix that, come on down and join the fun.

It is amazing how much time passes when doing just a few simple switching and motive power moves. It was really fun moving it all around.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: vinceg on December 16, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Tom, how wide is that shelf? Looks pretty compact but there's a lot action packed in there.


Vince,

All the bench work is no wider than 24 inches. All three levels are at this same width. With the 24 inches there isn't any spot on the layout I can't reach to work on.

I had areas on my old layout that were almost 5 ft. from isle to wall and a ladder was required to work on scenery, track and structures. I vowed to never do that again.

Now, when more than five people are over, it is a little cramped. However, I built this layout for me and one other. So it is friendly to the builder/owner.  8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
I'm one of those guys who believe that paint and sound have scale. For the purpose of this post, I'll just deal with paint.

Floquil, Polly Scale, Scalecoat, Model Master, Tamiya, etc. and etc. are all paints for scale models.

Yes, we have used large rattle can paints for Hydrocal and wood but not on small, highly detailed plastic structures.

I decided to experiment using both Tamiya and the large rattle can Rust-Oleum for the water tower and cinder conveyor.

The Tamiya paint is #TS-5 Black

The Rust-Oleum is Flat Black. I tried the Rust-Oleum as the can label says it bonds to plastic.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171218163051.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
I used the Tamiya Black on the cinder conveyor. After spraying the black on the conveyor, I set it aside to dry.

When at the local Hobby Shop, I noticed Tamiya had three black paints - Gloss Black, Matte Black and what I chose Black. I wrongly assumed the Black was flat based on the label of the other two.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171218163104.jpeg)

When dry, the Tamiya Black had just a slight shine or matte finish. It wasn't flat.

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2018, 05:44:43 PM
The water tower has highly detailed parts on the tower sides and rivets on the tank. Using the large rattle can Flat Black on this model was a bit risky at best.

I held the tower by the tank and sprayed the legs. The label claims this is fast drying paint. After an hour, it was indeed dry. I then held the tower by the legs and sprayed the tank.

When first spraying the tower, the paint went on as a high gloss. I stopped and looked again at the label thinking I picked up the wrong can. Nope, it said Flat Black.

When thoroughly dry, it did dry to a flat black. It didn't go on thick but sprayed evenly. I held the can about 18 inches away from the model when spraying.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171218163118.jpeg)

Also, I'm happy to report the large rattle can of Rust-Oleum paint didn't cover or hide any of the fine details on the plastic model.

Tamiya cost me $5.75 for the small can. The new price(retail) for Tamiya spray paint now $6.50.

The large can of Rust-Oleum was $3.98 retail and is 12 oz.

I think my go to paint now is the Rust-Oleum Painter's touch primer.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on December 17, 2018, 07:01:25 PM
Tom - It's interesting to see that the Rustoleum didn't cover the Fine details on the tower. I have used it for painting larger areas on a regular basis but stayed clear of the small stuff. Thanks for doing the "research." Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on December 18, 2018, 06:14:49 AM
Nice comparison Tom , but you did compare compare normal black with flat black. Not sure if it's the same in the rest of the world and America but Matte means flat, so you should have used the Tamiya Matte Black.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on December 18, 2018, 08:29:57 AM
I used this paint (along with a can of Walmart Krylon) about 6 months ago while working on a 1/8 scale T bucket kit and had the same results. The paint first appears too thick when first sprayed on the parts but after drying it settles into the small details and depending on the level of gloss is even and consistent across the parts. I did have some issues with the Krylon crazing the plastic in some areas but considering the plastic in this kit was 50 years old and I didn't use a primer I found the results acceptable. Once again thanks for the tips Tom.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 18, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Thanks for the comparison Tom. I've used the Krylon before but not the Tamiya rattle can.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on December 17, 2018, 07:01:25 PM
Tom - It's interesting to see that the Rustoleum didn't cover the Fine details on the tower. I have used it for painting larger areas on a regular basis but stayed clear of the small stuff. Thanks for doing the "research." Jim


Jim,

You are welcome. I was surprised with the results.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Erieman on December 18, 2018, 10:15:07 AM
Good Morning Tom,


I have stopped using Krylon because all my recent experiences with it have been bad. They continue to use poorly ground pigments and even after shaking the can for quite a long time, i can have a can that does not deliver paint,it just drools. I complained to the local Ace store and they indicated that Krylon was having production issues.


I have been using flat black from Walmart. Not only is it inexpensive, it covers very well. The Walmart brand is called ColorPlace. I also use the Walmart grey primer called Home Shades. This product is not  found in all stores, but can be ordered thru the Walmart website and delivered to any store you want. I typically buy 6 can at once. I have had no problems with either color. And best of all, they are cheap.


I like the Tamiya paint. They use a very well designed spray nozzle and the pigments are very well ground, producing a very fine spray. They are just expensive.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 18, 2018, 06:14:49 AM
Nice comparison Tom , but you did compare compare normal black with flat black. Not sure if it's the same in the rest of the world and America but Matte means flat, so you should have used the Tamiya Matte Black.


Jan,

I guess matte does mean "not shiny/flat" but for some reason I was thinking the matte meant "satin".

I wonder why they just didn't say Flat Black instead of Black Matte? Who knows, after all they did bomb Pearl Harbor!

Tom  ;D


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: NKP768 on December 18, 2018, 08:29:57 AM
I used this paint (along with a can of Walmart Krylon) about 6 months ago while working on a 1/8 scale T bucket kit and had the same results. The paint first appears too thick when first sprayed on the parts but after drying it settles into the small details and depending on the level of gloss is even and consistent across the parts. I did have some issues with the Krylon crazing the plastic in some areas but considering the plastic in this kit was 50 years old and I didn't use a primer I found the results acceptable. Once again thanks for the tips Tom.

Doug


Doug,

The only Krylon I ever used for the hobby was for the turntable pit area. The River Rock was the only color I could find that looked like aged concrete. I had no issues with the paint at all. I typically use the ACE Hardware brand for grays and the primer.

The Rust-Oleum specifically stated it bonds to plastic so I gave it a try with fantastic results.

You are correct in that it did appear to thick when applied but dried to a perfect cover so the rivets showed.

Thanks for the information.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 18, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Thanks for the comparison Tom. I've used the Krylon before but not the Tamiya rattle can.


Curt,

Thanks for stopping by. I also like the Tamiya paints but with the new price of $6.50 per can, I'll gladly use the Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch for the plastics. Much cheaper as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: Erieman on December 18, 2018, 10:15:07 AM
Good Morning Tom,


I have stopped using Krylon because all my recent experiences with it have been bad. They continue to use poorly ground pigments and even after shaking the can for quite a long time, i can have a can that does not deliver paint,it just drools. I complained to the local Ace store and they indicated that Krylon was having production issues.


I have been using flat black from Walmart. Not only is it inexpensive, it covers very well. The Walmart brand is called ColorPlace. I also use the Walmart grey primer called Home Shades. This product is not  found in all stores, but can be ordered thru the Walmart website and delivered to any store you want. I typically buy 6 can at once. I have had no problems with either color. And best of all, they are cheap.


I like the Tamiya paint. They use a very well designed spray nozzle and the pigments are very well ground, producing a very fine spray. They are just expensive.


Frank / Erieman


Top of the morning Frank,

The Krylon River Rock gave me no problems at all. Sprayed evenly, no crazing, orange peal or over spray/dripping. However, I must say the Rust-Oleum I used for the water tower worked as well as spraying Floquil. It does appear to be thick when sprayed but dries to an thin even covering.

I'll try some Walmark if I ever get to one of the stores.

Cheap is good and the Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch is priced between cheap and Tamiya expensive.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on December 18, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
I might add that the Krylon acted almost like a lacquer base in that if sprayed too heavy it would craze the plastic - on the parts that mattered I would spray a base coat of the Krylon primer which effectively sealed the plastic. Again numerous light coats were the ticket. In all cases the paint dried to the touch in 10 minutes and I was able to work and handle the parts after a couple of hours of simple air drying. Do not use any quick drying attempts (heat lamps/hair dryer) as this results in the paint pulling away from any hard corner or edges.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 18, 2018, 05:15:43 PM
Hey Tom:

Both models look just great. Don't forget some pics on the layout.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 19, 2018, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on December 18, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
I might add that the Krylon acted almost like a lacquer base in that if sprayed too heavy it would craze the plastic - on the parts that mattered I would spray a base coat of the Krylon primer which effectively sealed the plastic. Again numerous light coats were the ticket. In all cases the paint dried to the touch in 10 minutes and I was able to work and handle the parts after a couple of hours of simple air drying. Do not use any quick drying attempts (heat lamps/hair dryer) as this results in the paint pulling away from any hard corner or edges.

Doug


Doug,

Thanks for the info on the Krylon paint.

I'm really impressed with the Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch paint. I've seen it used in MRR in a few articles where the item being sprayed was plastic.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 19, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 18, 2018, 05:15:43 PM
Hey Tom:

Both models look just great. Don't forget some pics on the layout.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks as always. More photos will certainly be shown in the coming weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Lynnb on December 19, 2018, 08:46:20 PM
Looks good painted. Do you airbrush? A friend who I refer to as a professional airbrusher had demonstrated to me how to airbrush plastic and it came out great, me on the other hand am clueless with an airbrush .
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: Lynnb on December 19, 2018, 08:46:20 PM
Looks good painted. Do you airbrush? A friend who I refer to as a professional airbrusher had demonstrated to me how to airbrush plastic and it came out great, me on the other hand am clueless with an airbrush .


Lynn,

Thank you and yes, I do air brush. I have plenty of Floquil paints I still use but went with the rattle can to save the Grimy, Weathered and Flat Black Floquil paints.

I've seen plastic brush painted and it crazes most plastics. Air brushing doesn't unless you spray to thick a coat.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
In today's Baggage Car thread, it was mentioned that "Greg Crumbs" may be inclined to drop some "raisin crumbs" in the Atlantic and Southern RR turntable pit area.

Apparently "Greg Crumbs" has a following. I received a call from PennsyJ1 relating that his wife, Kris, was using his desk. She had quite the episode with a pencil eraser and brushed the "eraser crumbs" into Bill's desk drawer. When Bill came in she tried to blow them out. Well, things just don't disappear when you blow on them. They still, in this case, find the tiny spaces and corners of the drawer.

Now we have "Greg Crumbs" and "Eraser Kris".

How is all this dribble related to railroad modeling? Simple put, it isn't.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PennsyJ1 on December 20, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
Sorry about the dribble, but it seems you are now the expert on getting things out of tight spaces or did Greg do the right thing and clean up the mess. Either way can one of you experts come help me with my drawer. This is below my pay grade to handle. Thank you for your support in advance.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on December 20, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
I've had a good experience with rattle cans of Valspar Color Radiance paint/primer, safe for plastic.  For a grimy black, I use the "Blindfold" color, #86021.  Only available at Loew's to my knowledge.  When I purchased a couple cans the other year, went on the Loew's site and searched for it.  It told me which stores had it in inventory.  In my instance, first time, they had none.  A couple days later, success.

First time I tried it, didn't shake it enough and product dried powdery and would flake off the sample sheet of cardboard I experimented with.  A longer, vigorous shaking did the trick.  From a Bar Mills kit, used it for the "rolled roofing" strips.  Dried nicely and and the color is truly a grimy black. Also used it on an Atlas bridge with a good result and effect.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 22, 2018, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on December 20, 2018, 05:26:08 PM
Sorry about the dribble, but it seems you are now the expert on getting things out of tight spaces or did Greg do the right thing and clean up the mess. Either way can one of you experts come help me with my drawer. This is below my pay grade to handle. Thank you for your support in advance.


Bill,

I'll bring my little vacuum and take care of it.  8)  Better yet, I'll let Kris use it since she caused the problem.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 22, 2018, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on December 20, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
I've had a good experience with rattle cans of Valspar Color Radiance paint/primer, safe for plastic.  For a grimy black, I use the "Blindfold" color, #86021.  Only available at Loew's to my knowledge.  When I purchased a couple cans the other year, went on the Loew's site and searched for it.  It told me which stores had it in inventory.  In my instance, first time, they had none.  A couple days later, success.

First time I tried it, didn't shake it enough and product dried powdery and would flake off the sample sheet of cardboard I experimented with.  A longer, vigorous shaking did the trick.  From a Bar Mills kit, used it for the "rolled roofing" strips.  Dried nicely and and the color is truly a grimy black. Also used it on an Atlas bridge with a good result and effect.


Larry,


Thanks for the information on the Valspar (Lowe's) paint. I'll give it a try. Also, Scalecoat II is good for plastics. However, since the newer formula has been added to Scalecoat, I haven't tried it.




Tom ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 23, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
Well, Saturday on the A&S was a short day due to the CEO's afternoon Christmas festivities.  I arrived a few minutes late but in time for wonderful treats home-made by Tom's "Babe."  She even gave me a box to take home, along with a peanut butter pie that is to die for.  New rules prohibit food and drink past the office area and into the layout room.  Thanks a lot Greg!

I have been tasked with "populating" our passenger cars.  I started a couple of years ago and we have completed a number of them.  The project has been on hold during construction in recent months. But there is still a long way to go.  So, I have taken several L&N and IC cars back to my car shop in Sanford and will have them ready to go next Saturday.

Anyway, our railroading activities yesterday were limited to inspection of passenger trains and some switching.  We spent our pie cards at the local Harvey House (Smokey Bones) and called it a day.

Next Saturday will see busier railroad activity.  We are also going to try to visualize how to lay track coming off of the ovalix on the third level.  Some say a custom cross-over will be needed due to the 44 inch curve required to back passenger cars into the Jacksonville Union Station.  Others think we can get around it somehow.  We will have to wait and see.

Merry Christmas.

The Judge
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2018, 08:24:28 AM
Saturday was indeed a very short one but also very busy.

The Atlantic and Southern RR Ticket Agent informed the CEO that revenue needed to be increased. Three L&N and two IC passenger cars were sent to the car shop in Sanford, Fl. for some modifications. These modifications included the removal of a portion of the  interior walls to facilitate the installation of new LED lighting. With the interior modifications and new lighting, the A&S Ticket Agent is confident passengers and revenue will substantially increase.

The Babe did bring out some Christmas goodies to snack on and sent some home with the Ticket Agent.

The Atlantic and Southern Executive Offices are closed for Christmas Holidays and will reopen later this week.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all who may stumble upon this thread.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241218082144.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 24, 2018, 10:02:56 AM
Quote from: Judge on December 23, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
.....Thanks a lot Greg!.....


No comment.....you know how Tom gets all upset with us when we get off topic on his thread..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on December 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Happy Christmas Eve. We are in Winchester VA visiting our grandchildren and my sons and their spouses for Christmas. Mary Poppins movie on schedule and dinner out this evening.  West Chester and Boston RR may have to generate some revenue to cover additional expenses.  Anyway Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the Muellers.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 25, 2018, 08:02:22 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on December 24, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Happy Christmas Eve. We are in Winchester VA visiting our grandchildren and my sons and their spouses for Christmas. Mary Poppins movie on schedule and dinner out this evening.  West Chester and Boston RR may have to generate some revenue to cover additional expenses.  Anyway Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the Muellers.


Jim,

Merry Christmas to you and your family also.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241218082251.gif)

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 26, 2018, 12:37:22 AM
Hey Tom!
Guess what I found under the tree!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 07:18:49 AM
Bruce,

Santa was very good to you. You must have been very good last year.  8) 8)

Tom  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 05:58:40 PM
Work on, in and around the turntable continues.

I have Walthers' sanding tower that needs to be kit bashed to fit over three tracks. It is made to fit over two tracks, one on each side of the tower as shown in the photos below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174402.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174418.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
As you can see, it needs to be extended to fit over the track on the far right.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174435.jpeg)

I measured the distance between the main tower and the support post on the right

I then used blue painters tape and marked the distance on the tape as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174450.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:07:30 PM
I used thin piano wire, same as I use for the Tortoise throw bar, and soldered an angle piece to the main/pipe.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174509.jpeg)

When cool, I used pliers to bend the ends to fit into the holes on the main sand tower. The lower wire is a support/stabilizer for the longer one.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174526.jpeg)

Back in a few, gonna grab a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:11:48 PM
Here is how it will look between the main sand tower and support post.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174542.jpeg)

This is a repeat photo but the piping will fit between the two sand assemblies.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174558.jpeg)

More in a few.





Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
Both tracks fit as planned.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174615.jpeg)

I used CAA glue to secure the piping. Weights were used to hold the parts together as the glue set.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174630.jpeg)

Back in a few more.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
After making sure the glued pieces were tight and secure, The new piping was painted with Floquil Weathered Black.

The new kit bashed sanding tower was placed over the tracks for a test fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174646.jpeg)

The locos have plenty of room under the sanding pipes.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174702.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2018, 06:20:52 PM
The outer posts appear to be at an angle but they aren't.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174721.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174736.jpeg)


I'll have another update tomorrow afternoon.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 26, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
Another innovative fix Tom. 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on December 27, 2018, 07:32:48 AM

Tom,


Setting up a quickie fixture at the workbench rather than building it in place on the layout is yet another great idea I'll have to borrow.  Once again, innovative and wonderful modeling!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on December 27, 2018, 08:23:12 AM
Nice job Tom -looks good.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 26, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
Another innovative fix Tom. 8)


Curt,

Thank you, innovation by way of necessity.  ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you, appreciate you looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


Chip,

Great question, yes, they will and even at "Greg Speed".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 27, 2018, 07:32:48 AM

Tom,


Setting up a quickie fixture at the workbench rather than building it in place on the layout is yet another great idea I'll have to borrow.  Once again, innovative and wonderful modeling!


Jerry,

Thank you. As I mentioned to Curt, it was done out of necessity. I placed it on the work bench as I wanted to get the measurements and soldering done correctly the first time. The bench seemed like the place to do it.

I appreciate the comments.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on December 27, 2018, 08:23:12 AM
Nice job Tom -looks good.

Doug


Doug,

Thanks for the positive comment, much appreciate you following along on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 05:06:26 PM
I had one other sub assembly to kit bash for the sanding tower and supporting structures.

I needed a way for the sand to get from the sand pit and into the sand bin. I used another sand tower from another kit and added a few extra pieces to it to get what I wanted.

Below is a photo of a small Walthers sand tower. I left off all the piping for this one to kit bash it.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174801.jpeg)

I used a short piece of spare brass rod and a sanding spout from an old FSM Coaling Tower kit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174821.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
I drilled a hole in the bottom back side of the sand tower and cut the brass rod to fit as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174851.jpeg)

I then cut a short piece of the brass rod to be glued to the back of the sand spout. It was bent to fit the angle for the pipe to be aligned over the sand bin.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174921.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
I also drilled a hole in the front bottom of the sand tower. This hole was drilled opposite of the one in the rear.

The brass rod with the extended spout was then glued into the front hole.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174937.jpeg)

By doing this, the tower became top heavy and wouldn't stay upright. More on this in the next few photos.

In the mean time, I added a small eyelet from another kit. I drilled a hole in the top front and glued this in place. You can see this piece in the above photo.

I then added some HO scale chain to the pipe as seen below.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218174953.jpeg)

I also removed the rear brass rod and added a longer one as also seen in the photo above.

More in a few.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2018, 05:28:52 PM
I drilled a hole in the layout plywood and used this hole to insert the extension of the newly installed brass rod. This holds the sand tower upright and in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218175018.jpeg)

I then resprayed the structure with Floquil Weathered Black.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261218175151.jpeg)

I'll possibility have more to update tomorrow. I appreciate all following along.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on December 27, 2018, 06:51:47 PM
The whole scene is coming together beautifully Tom , love the sandbox, and it reminds me that I have to make those rods over the top on mine.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


You bet.....It's built to withstand the worst.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:57:06 AM
By the way Tom.....I like the way you used the underground feeder pipes to cut down on clutter in the scene.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 28, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 29, 2018, 02:54:41 PM
Saturday Report:
The Superintendent noted last week that a number of the A&S passenger trains lacked revenue paying passengers.  This was not surprising considering the cars had no lights, heat, or air conditioning.  Five of these cars were sent to the Sanford Car Shops for upgrading and they were returned on time and under budget this morning.  Will Fixer, who is the head of maintenance at A&S, connected the lights in the cars and passengers began loading almost immediately.  The Southland (L&N) and the City of Miami (IC) are the focus of the current upgrading.  Others will follow.

Activity on the A&S was limited to some extent today, but not because of the balmy, clear day here in Orlando.  Current temp is 80 degrees.

An SAL GP7 shifted around the yard in Tahope and managed to shuffle an 11 car local freight together.  It was powered by an SAL Q3 Milke that has been recently refurbished with a new WOW decoder.  A power change was indicted in route so an out-of-time-frame black ACL E Unit with an out-of-time-frame orange ACL caboose took over the chores briefly.  Trouble developed negotiating turn-outs and  the E Unit was sidelined until the difficulty can be diagnosed and repaired.  Fortunately, a brace of NC&StL F Units were fueling in the lubratorium and they brought the freight into the yard at Sanlando in short order.  The NC&StL diesels are "on loan" to the A&S due to heavy winter citrus traffic.  Old Man Perkins has been busy harvesting oranges from his extensive grove in anticipation of a cold snap that usually comes in January.

This ticket agent is taking a Saturday off next week.  Will return the week following.

The Judge
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on December 30, 2018, 06:40:05 AM
Judge:  Great report on the A&S's work load on Saturday.  Thanks for the update!
Tom:  thanks for all of the pictures & how-to's on the sanding tower.  As usual beautiful work!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 30, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: Judge on December 29, 2018, 02:54:41 PM
Saturday Report:
The Superintendent noted last week that a number of the A&S passenger trains lacked revenue paying passengers.  This was not surprising considering the cars had no lights, heat, or air conditioning.  Five of these cars were sent to the Sanford Car Shops for upgrading and they were returned on time and under budget this morning.  Will Fixer, who is the head of maintenance at A&S, connected the lights in the cars and passengers began loading almost immediately.  The Southland (L&N) and the City of Miami (IC) are the focus of the current upgrading.  Others will follow.

Activity on the A&S was limited to some extent today, but not because of the balmy, clear day here in Orlando.  Current temp is 80 degrees.

An SAL GP7 shifted around the yard in Tahope and managed to shuffle an 11 car local freight together.  It was powered by an SAL Q3 Milke that has been recently refurbished with a new WOW decoder.  A power change was indicted in route so an out-of-time-frame black ACL E Unit with an out-of-time-frame orange ACL caboose took over the chores briefly.  Trouble developed negotiating turn-outs and  the E Unit was sidelined until the difficulty can be diagnosed and repaired.  Fortunately, a brace of NC&StL F Units were fueling in the lubratorium and they brought the freight into the yard at Sanlando in short order.  The NC&StL diesels are "on loan" to the A&S due to heavy winter citrus traffic.  Old Man Perkins has been busy harvesting oranges from his extensive grove in anticipation of a cold snap that usually comes in January.

This ticket agent is taking a Saturday off next week.  Will return the week following.

The Judge

The declining passengers situation is going to get even worse now that the "Gators" football schedule is coming to a close for this year.  No more passengers to take to the football games. 

:( :( :(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 30, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
Wow!  Tom you come through again with a beautiful way to fix something.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on December 30, 2018, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 30, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: Judge on December 29, 2018, 02:54:41 PM
Saturday Report:
The Superintendent noted last week that a number of the A&S passenger trains lacked revenue paying passengers.  This was not surprising considering the cars had no lights, heat, or air conditioning.  Five of these cars were sent to the Sanford Car Shops for upgrading and they were returned on time and under budget this morning.  Will Fixer, who is the head of maintenance at A&S, connected the lights in the cars and passengers began loading almost immediately.  The Southland (L&N) and the City of Miami (IC) are the focus of the current upgrading.  Others will follow.

Activity on the A&S was limited to some extent today, but not because of the balmy, clear day here in Orlando.  Current temp is 80 degrees.

An SAL GP7 shifted around the yard in Tahope and managed to shuffle an 11 car local freight together.  It was powered by an SAL Q3 Milke that has been recently refurbished with a new WOW decoder.  A power change was indicted in route so an out-of-time-frame black ACL E Unit with an out-of-time-frame orange ACL caboose took over the chores briefly.  Trouble developed negotiating turn-outs and  the E Unit was sidelined until the difficulty can be diagnosed and repaired.  Fortunately, a brace of NC&StL F Units were fueling in the lubratorium and they brought the freight into the yard at Sanlando in short order.  The NC&StL diesels are "on loan" to the A&S due to heavy winter citrus traffic.  Old Man Perkins has been busy harvesting oranges from his extensive grove in anticipation of a cold snap that usually comes in January.

This ticket agent is taking a Saturday off next week.  Will return the week following.

The Judge

The declining passengers situation is going to get even worse now that the "Gators" football schedule is coming to a close for this year.  No more passengers to take to the football games. 

:( :( :(



Nah.
Southbound snowbirds will make up for them.
Best time of the year to visit the northeast what with all those left lane hogging 30 MPH drivers safely ensconced in Florida.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 31, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
Love the report on Saturday's activity.  Sorry I missed it.  Even limited activity on the A&S is fun to observe.   :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on December 31, 2018, 01:58:31 PM
Judge


Great report! The upgrades on the A&S should pay big dividends.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 27, 2018, 06:51:47 PM
The whole scene is coming together beautifully Tom , love the sandbox, and it reminds me that I have to make those rods over the top on mine.


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciate the comment. There is so much potential for detailing this area that it is really filling my pea brain.  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


You bet.....It's built to withstand the worst.  ;)


Greg,

Well stated; however, we have yet to know for sure! Know what I mean?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:57:06 AM
By the way Tom.....I like the way you used the underground feeder pipes to cut down on clutter in the scene.  ;D


Greg,

Yepper, me too. I especially like the fact they can't be seen.  ??? ???

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 28, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: MAP on December 30, 2018, 06:40:05 AM
Judge:  Great report on the A&S's work load on Saturday.  Thanks for the update!
Tom:  thanks for all of the pictures & how-to's on the sanding tower.  As usual beautiful work!


Mark,

Thank you and you are very welcome. I very much enjoy sharing my ideas and builds.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 03, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


You bet.....It's built to withstand the worst.  ;)


Greg,

Well stated; however, we have yet to know for sure! Know what I mean?

Tom  ;D


Yes, I know what you mean.....and you know that I'm available for test runs at a moments notice.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 30, 2018, 11:31:40 AM


The declining passengers situation is going to get even worse now that the "Gators" football schedule is coming to a close for this year.  No more passengers to take to the football games. 

:( :( :(


Brucie,

We'll increase the revenue by offering Diet Pepsi and story telling by the JUDGE.  :P

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 03, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


You bet.....It's built to withstand the worst.  ;)


Greg,

Well stated; however, we have yet to know for sure! Know what I mean?

Tom  ;D


Yes, I know what you mean.....and you know that I'm available for test runs at a moments notice.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

I'll let you know as soon as we get out rocket fired locomotive.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 30, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
Wow!  Tom you come through again with a beautiful way to fix something.

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you, seems like I've been lucky in some of my fixes.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:54:32 PM
Chip,

Our local ticket agent may limit "snow bird" seating on the local runs. Or maybe just increase the prices.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 31, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
Love the report on Saturday's activity.  Sorry I missed it.  Even limited activity on the A&S is fun to observe.   :D


Bob,

Our next run is Saturday, January 12, 2019. As bob Barker said, "Come on down!"

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on December 31, 2018, 01:58:31 PM
Judge


Great report! The upgrades on the A&S should pay big dividends.


John,

Thanks for stopping by. The Judge does a great job with the Saturday Report.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 05:02:13 PM
The Atlantic and Southern is closed for Babe duty this Saturday.

I spoke with the Judge, our resident Ticket Agent, and he has agreed to be the A&S Historian and report to the public the activities occurring on the A&S RR.

The railroad has many employees who have yet to be "dimed out" or heard from.

The Judge already introduced Will Fixer our maintenance flunky.

Stay tuned for future exploits on the AS railroad.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 03, 2019, 05:17:12 PM
Hot diggidy dog.....more stories from Bill.....can't wait.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 03, 2019, 05:34:38 PM
Unfortunately I will have to miss the 12th. I'll be in Cocoa for Prototype Rails.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PaulS on January 03, 2019, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 05:02:13 PM
The Atlantic and Southern is closed for Babe duty this Saturday.

I spoke with the Judge, our resident Ticket Agent, and he has agreed to be the A&S Historian and report to the public the activities occurring on the A&S RR.

The railroad has many employees who have yet to be "dimed out" or heard from.

The Judge already introduced Will Fixer our maintenance flunky.

Stay tuned for future exploits on the AS railroad.

Tom  ;D


Happy New Year Tom, to you and the A&S Crew !!
I have generally been lurking as you bring your wonderful A&S to life.  It is looking excellent with each and every addition, outstanding !!  Also learning here on my end from your exploits and overcoming challenges along the way.


We have recently moved and are just getting settled in our new digs.  With that I am in the early planning phases of rebuilding version 2 of my Atlantic & White Mountain Railway.   First things first though with prepping the room for the railway.


And let me also add that I have been really enjoying the 'weekly reports' the A&S Historian (aka The Judge) as they bring another level of 'life' and the story behind the story to your A&S.


Tom, All the best to you and the Babe in 2019  !!!
And know that I will be following along with the exploits of you and the Crew; and perhaps one day I'll get down that way for a Saturday get together with you all.
--Paul
Marshfield, MA
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 04, 2019, 05:18:50 PM
Quote from: PaulS on January 03, 2019, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 05:02:13 PM
The Atlantic and Southern is closed for Babe duty this Saturday.

I spoke with the Judge, our resident Ticket Agent, and he has agreed to be the A&S Historian and report to the public the activities occurring on the A&S RR.

The railroad has many employees who have yet to be "dimed out" or heard from.

The Judge already introduced Will Fixer our maintenance flunky.

Stay tuned for future exploits on the AS railroad.

Tom  ;D


Happy New Year Tom, to you and the A&S Crew !!
I have generally been lurking as you bring your wonderful A&S to life.  It is looking excellent with each and every addition, outstanding !!  Also learning here on my end from your exploits and overcoming challenges along the way.


We have recently moved and are just getting settled in our new digs.  With that I am in the early planning phases of rebuilding version 2 of my Atlantic & White Mountain Railway.   First things first though with prepping the room for the railway.


And let me also add that I have been really enjoying the 'weekly reports' the A&S Historian (aka The Judge) as they bring another level of 'life' and the story behind the story to your A&S.


Tom, All the best to you and the Babe in 2019  !!!
And know that I will be following along with the exploits of you and the Crew; and perhaps one day I'll get down that way for a Saturday get together with you all.
--Paul
Marshfield, MA


Paul,

Thank you very much for the kind and generous compliment on the layout and my work. I appreciate the time you took to voice your comments.

I believe over coming and meeting many of the challenges has given me a better understanding. A better understanding of just how much better and talented many modelers are when I compare their work to mine. There is certainly a sense of pride when one is solved.

I remember when I returned for Mississippi, after visiting Cliff's Magnolia Route layout, the desire in wanting to start over. Not only did I have to remove the old layout but then prepping the room for a new one. Trust me when I say don't rush it but consider prepping the new layout area as a model in itself. That's what I did.

Thank you for following along on this adventure. When you do get down this way, know that you are always welcome to come and take a ride on the Atlantic and Southern RR.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 04, 2019, 05:19:36 PM
Oh, Happy New Year to you as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on January 05, 2019, 12:36:14 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 30, 2018, 11:31:40 AM


The declining passengers situation is going to get even worse now that the "Gators" football schedule is coming to a close for this year.  No more passengers to take to the football games. 

:( :( :(


Brucie,

We'll increase the revenue by offering Diet Pepsi and story telling by the JUDGE.  :P

Tom  ;D

This sounds like a scheme that might work.  You realize of course that once those passengers get a taste of a refreshing Diet Pepsi they might become addicted to the stuff.  Maybe you could partner with the Pepsi Company to supply all those cans of soda for the passengers.

Btw, nice work on the railroad and tell the judge that the storytelling and reports are wonderful.

;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 08, 2019, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 03, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 03, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 26, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 26, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Looks great Tom..... 8)



Will they hold up to warp speed?


You bet.....It's built to withstand the worst.  ;)


Greg,

Well stated; however, we have yet to know for sure! Know what I mean?

Tom  ;D


Yes, I know what you mean.....and you know that I'm available for test runs at a moments notice.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

I'll let you know as soon as we get out rocket fired locomotive.

Tom ;D


Oh my, rocket fired.....this just keeps getting better and better..... ;D ;D :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 08, 2019, 06:00:45 PM
Over the past few months I've been building structures and working on a small area around the turntable roundhouse.

After this current build, the Gulf gas station, I'll be back to work on the layout most of the time.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4113.0

I'm getting excited to start the track work coming off the Ovalix and onto the third level.

Also, every three to four years I get in the mood to paint more brass. It's been three years since the A&S RR shops have painted/repainted any locomotives.

One will be a B&0 2-8-0 by United/PFM. I replaced the open frame motor with a new Sagami 20X32 MM can motor. I also dropped in a new gear box. This loco will be lettered for the Atlantic and Southern.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174120.jpeg)

Prior to any painting, I need to finish many started projects on the workbench.

The one major project is to finish adding marker lights to the brass cabeese.

Yesterday I drilled the holes for the Tomar Adlade Marker Lights.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174103.jpeg)

I have four ready now but only have marker lights for three. I've ordered 10 more sets.

Tomar sold the marker light division. I'm not sure of the new owners name for their new business but they are a very nice couple. The markers are LEDs now and have to be hand made for my red, red, red lights in the markers. This is an extra cost but well worth it.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 08, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
The marker lights come blackened so I hand painted them with Floquil Reefer Yellow, it took two coats.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174048.jpeg)

Also, this weekend I acquired a small USRA 0-6-0 brass loco. The 0-6-0 is the smallest of the USRA types.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174138.jpeg)



The box was marked as a PRR 0-6-0 class B28s. This is definitely not a Pennsy loco. It has all the classic signs of the USRA design. The brass model was imported by Alco in 1976 and retailed for $149.00, a lot of money in 1976.

I'll need to remotor this one as well.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 08, 2019, 06:19:14 PM
Somewhere in the travels of the 0-6-0, the can headlight has been removed from the top of the smokebox. A new bracket mounted can headlight was added to the top front of the smokebox.

I'll need to fill the hole with solder and file smooth.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174210.jpeg)

You may have noticed the L&N observation car in the background. This car has been lighted and populated and is waiting for a set of makers. The markers for the observation won't be painted yellow.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119181251.jpeg)

So you see, lots to do on the A&S RR.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on January 08, 2019, 08:32:32 PM

Tom,


I'm looking forward to the new motive power on the A&S.  I cannot believe you made us wait three whole years since the last steamer went through the paint shop.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2019, 08:13:17 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on January 08, 2019, 08:32:32 PM

Tom,


I'm looking forward to the new motive power on the A&S.  I cannot believe you made us wait three whole years since the last steamer went through the paint shop.


Jerry,

Thanks for stopping by. Hard for me to believe its been three years since the last brass paint job.

My last brass painting thread was in February 2016. Wow, time does fly these days.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=1824.0

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 05:35:11 PM
I'm still working on adding LED marker lights to the many cabeese on the Atlantic & Southern RR. Adding them to a brass caboose is much easier than to a plastic one.

I thought I'd share the process for adding Tomar LED marker lights to plastic cabooses or as I like to refer to them as cabeese.

Many years ago I purchased two Seaboard cabeese from East Coast Railroads. These were perfect for the A&S RR as one was for the Georgia Division and the other one for the North Florida Division. The Atlantic & Southern RR operates in North Florida and Georgia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119103949.jpeg)

Kadee makes a pair of caboose trucks specifically for adding markers to cabeese. More on these later in the thread.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104513.jpeg)

Continued in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
The plastic caboose is much like an Athearn model. The ECR model has the bottom frame and bed all molded as one. The caboose trucks have to be removed first.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104006.jpeg)

Then by gently prying the sides apart with your fingers, the body drops off the frame.

In the next photo you can see the bolster on the caboose frame. This has been filed to accept the Kadee trucks but I forgot to show this prior to cutting them off.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104023.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 05:45:43 PM
Here is an Athearn underframe and you can see the raised portion on the bolster. One the ECR model, this is the portion I cut off.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104038.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
The screw that held the ECR  trucks on was very small and had fine grooves on the screw.

The screws on the Kadee trucks are about 2mm or 1/16" in width. These won't fit into the ECR model bolster without forcing them in. Also, the Kadee truck screws are of a larger thread than the fine.

I used a 2mm tap and retapped the 2mm hole into the ECR caboose bolster.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104053.jpeg)

This was very easy to do as the tap was self cutting the new threads into the plastic. I did this slowly and by hand.

When finished, I turned the model over and reversed the twist and let gravity pull the tap out of the newly threaded hole.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104109.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 06:02:44 PM
Here is a view of an old marker that had the old 1.5 volt micro mini light. The outside diameter of the portion fitting into the caboose is also 2mm wide. I used a two mm drill bit to drill the holes in the sides of the two plastic cabeese.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104125.jpeg)

Here I'm setting the drill press to just above the caboose so I can get a clean drill hole in the plastic.

The key here is to use a low RPM when drilling the hole. A fast RPM will heat and melt the side of the caboose. I made several small down strokes to get a clean hole without distorting the plastic caboose side.

I placed the plastic caboose on a clean rag to keep the plastic off the metal drill press table and to protect the sides.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104336.jpeg)

Continued in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2019, 06:07:24 PM
The marker light holes are now drilled on each side of the caboose.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104349.jpeg)

The markers were then test fit in the holes. The markers are upside in the photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104406.jpeg)

I'll finish the marker installation tomorrow afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on January 14, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 08, 2019, 06:00:45 PM
Over the past few months I've been building structures and working on a small area around the turntable roundhouse.
After this current build, the Gulf gas station, I'll be back to work on the layout most of the time.
http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4113.0
I'm getting excited to start the track work coming off the Ovalix and onto the third level.
Also, every three to four years I get in the mood to paint more brass. It's been three years since the A&S RR shops have painted/repainted any locomotives.

One will be a B&0 2-8-0 by United/PFM. I replaced the open frame motor with a new Sagami 20X32 MM can motor. I also dropped in a new gear box. This loco will be lettered for the Atlantic and Southern.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174120.jpeg)
Prior to any painting, I need to finish many started projects on the workbench.
The one major project is to finish adding marker lights to the brass cabeese.
Yesterday I drilled the holes for the Tomar Adlade Marker Lights.
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080119174103.jpeg)I have four ready now but only have marker lights for three. I've ordered 10 more sets.
Tomar sold the marker light division. I'm not sure of the new owners name for their new business but they are a very nice couple. The markers are LEDs now and have to be hand made for my red, red, red lights in the markers. This is an extra cost but well worth it.
More in a few.
[/quote

Tom,
I've got that same B&O 2-8-0 in need of the same processes.
Can I get some "private counseling" on issues you may not cover online?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 15, 2019, 02:58:48 PM
Chip,

Yes, absolutely. I'll be happy to help in any way possible.

Do you still have my phone number?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on January 15, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 15, 2019, 02:58:48 PM
Chip,

Yes, absolutely. I'll be happy to help in any way possible.
Do you still have my phone number?
Tom  ;D



Ends in 5796?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 15, 2019, 04:30:04 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on January 15, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 15, 2019, 02:58:48 PM
Chip,

Yes, absolutely. I'll be happy to help in any way possible.
Do you still have my phone number?
Tom  ;D






Ends in 5796?




Yes, it does.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 15, 2019, 05:47:05 PM
Sorry, ran out of time and had a lack of interest in finishing the lighting of the cabeese thread today. I will definitely finish it tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:00:10 PM
The kadee caboose trucks each have a long wire lead. I cut them to a manageable length after they are pulled through the underframe.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104528.jpeg)

Once the hole is drilled through the underframe, a hole needs to be drilled through the metal weight plate as well.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104234.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:00:36 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104248.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:03:08 PM
Once the hole is drilled in the weight plate, I used Weldwood Contact Cement to glue the weight to the top of the underframe.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104305.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104322.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:08:37 PM
One set of wires from each LED in the markers is wired/soldered to the resistor included in the package. It doesn't matter which wire is used as long as you use the same color. In this case I used the blue wires with the resistors. Also, it doesn't matter which end of the resistor is used as long as you use the same end for each wire.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104422.jpeg)

Don't forget to use heat shrink tubing to cover the exposed wire and solder joint.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104437.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Since the axle points float a little in the journal box, the wheels always don't make good contact with the light wipers.

Stock wipers shown below -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104528.jpeg)

I remove the axles and put them on top of the wipers as shown below. This way when they float, they are still pressed against the wipers thus making excellent contact for "No flickering" of the LED.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104545.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:16:08 PM
Twist/solder the two resistors together as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104453.jpeg)

Attach both Kadee trucks to the underframe and fed the truck wires through the underframe as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104608.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
Shown below is how it looks with both trucks and truck wires attached.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104626.jpeg)

Trim the truck wires to a length you are comfortable with using.

Notice in the photo below, I already have the shrink tubing in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104643.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:21:10 PM
Marker lights are now ready for the final wiring.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104701.jpeg)

Wire the LED wires and truck wires as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104715.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 16, 2019, 06:22:49 PM
Place the caboose body back on the underframe and you are all set to add just a little more realism to your cabeese fleet.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104800.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140119104813.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on January 16, 2019, 08:24:34 PM
Thanks for the step by step procedure.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 17, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
Awesome job Tom. You just motivated me to do one later in the year.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 17, 2019, 11:41:16 AM
Ya just gotta love cabeese lights.....great job Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on January 17, 2019, 12:56:11 PM
Great step by step process. The cabeese look great!
Mike :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: sdrees on January 16, 2019, 08:24:34 PM
Thanks for the step by step procedure.


Steve,

Thank you and you are welcome.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 17, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
Awesome job Tom. You just motivated me to do one later in the year.


Curt,

Thank you, if you need any help let me know. We'll talk on Saturday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 03:34:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 17, 2019, 11:41:16 AM
Ya just gotta love cabeese lights.....great job Tom.  8)


Greg,

The marker lights really make a difference. What respecting cabooses, er, cabeese would be without.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: madharry on January 17, 2019, 12:56:11 PM
Great step by step process. The cabeese look great!
Mike :)


Mike,

Thank you my friend, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 06:01:40 PM
Over the past several months I've built six structures that will occupy real estate in Tahope. I'm somewhat tired of structure building at this time and it's time to get back in the track laying mode.

I plan to finish the track at the top of the Ovalix and onto the third level.

The rise from the staging level to the top is 32.5 inches. The Ovalix was designed by Greg DeMayo. Ten loops are required to move from staging to the third level. Each loop is 26, 1:1, feet and raises 3.25 inches per loop. That's about 1 degree incline.

Here is the north end of the Ovalix. I see I'll need to move the Babe's reindeer.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170119175154.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 17, 2019, 06:05:50 PM
South end of the Ovalix -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170119175225.jpeg)

Overall view of Ovalix - The Ovalix area is 10L X 8.25W.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170119175211.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on January 17, 2019, 09:48:19 PM
Tom

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of unbelievable quality work you accomplish and the time you accomplish it in. I am still working my way through the various kits you have made in the past few months. I appreciate the amount of explination you put in to each build. I know you don't have to but trust me a lot of people including me learn a lot from each build. Frankly, I doubt I would even bother with craftsman kits if I had to rely on the manufacturer's directions, which given their costs today is a subject all by itself.

Looks like I need to catch up on your ever growing layout as well. Thanks again.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 18, 2019, 02:59:12 PM
hey Tom:

That is quite the helix. Great work.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on January 17, 2019, 09:48:19 PM
Tom

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of unbelievable quality work you accomplish and the time you accomplish it in. I am still working my way through the various kits you have made in the past few months. I appreciate the amount of explination you put in to each build. I know you don't have to but trust me a lot of people including me learn a lot from each build. Frankly, I doubt I would even bother with craftsman kits if I had to rely on the manufacturer's directions, which given their costs today is a subject all by itself.

Looks like I need to catch up on your ever growing layout as well. Thanks again.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you for the kind words and for following along on this particular adventure. Remember I've been doing this for 55+ years so most of it is second nature and the rest is "fly by the seat of my pants".  ;D

My layout work, scenery, structures and brass painting comes in bunches like bananas. Like the structures, build 5 or 6, get tired of structures and move on. In this case it's back to track work on the Ovalix and third level.

Some manufacturer's instructions are the best and others, not so much.

You and the Boss are welcome anytime, just call to make sure I'll be here.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 18, 2019, 02:59:12 PM
hey Tom:

That is quite the helix. Great work.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you. Greg DeMayo designed the Ovalix/Helix and all I had to do was build it per his CAD drawing.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 04:38:12 PM
Back to track laying. This is where I left off over two years ago, just short of the top of the Ovalix.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163234.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163249.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 04:40:52 PM
It also took me some time to gather all the necessary tools for track laying.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163201.jpeg)

Here's a view I've never seen, at least not from this angle and height.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163216.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:11:05 PM
I view track work as a model. Do it correctly or not at all. My mission on the Atlantic & Southern RR is to have flawless track work. The next few posts will show you the length I go to in getting flawless track.

Connecting/soldering track is most critical.

Right off the bat on this morning session, I needed to solder two sections of track on a 36" radius. As you know, when flex track is bent, one end rail extends and the other rail retracts.

In the photo below, the track on the right is on the end of a 36" radius curve. The track on the left is a section of straight.

I'll use rail nippers to even the rails on the right track as evenly as possible.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163324.jpeg)

To ensure the end rail is square, I'll use a Dremel cut off disc to get a square end. Notice I had to place the track on a track cleaner to show you the idea. I don't have five hands like Reading Bob. 8)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163342.jpeg)


When I put the two end sections together, I don't want any rail gap at all.

NOTE: If you try to solder two end rails while both are at a 36" radius you are asking for a derailment later on.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:16:18 PM
I also mentioned in the past I use Atlas Code 80 "N" scale rail joiners for my Code 83 track. The N scale joiners give me a very tight fit and more importantly, they have a very low profile when used with HO Code 83 track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163401.jpeg)

When joining the two sections of track, be sure the rail joiner is in the middle. If not, use a small flat head screwdriver and push it into the middle of the two rails.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163417.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:25:13 PM
Once satisfied with the rail alignment, solder the two rails at the rail joiner.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163417.jpeg)

I like to get the soldering iron as hot as possible and then place it next to the rail. I do this for two reasons.

1. A hot iron will heat the track fast without melting the plastic ties.

2. It allows the solder to melt faster and to flow much easier. Only a little solder is needed. On some of my rail joints, it's hard to see the soldered joint. The solder flows under the rail joiner for a better soldered joint.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163430.jpeg)

More in a few, gonna grab a water.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:28:31 PM
I use three 86 ft. passenger cars to test the track and soldered joint.

I use two Budd two truck cars and one three truck heavyweight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163306.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:31:42 PM
I will roll, push, pull and glide the cars over the new joint.

I don't want to see the wheels or trucks bump, bounce or jerk. If that happens the joint is tweaked or redone.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163447.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163501.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
Also, I save any plastic ties I remove from the rail ends to make the solder joint.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163517.jpeg)

The plastic spike heads are filed/removed and the ties are placed under the rails and glued in place.

In this case I needed four.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180119163532.jpeg)

This is it for today's post.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on January 19, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
That Ovalix is the 9th Wonder of the World Tom!  Hard to believe it's been 2 years since you've worked on the top section.  Great track work and tutorial as usual.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on January 19, 2019, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: MAP on January 19, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
That Ovalix is the 9th Wonder of the World Tom!  Hard to believe it's been 2 years since you've worked on the top section.  Great track work and tutorial as usual.

It kills switchers I tell ya!  Just kidding.  A couple years ago I purchased a new BLI Reading SW1500 and took it down to Tom's for it's inaugural run.  It got just about to the top of the Ovalix when stopped dead in its tracks and there was a faint odor of fried electronics.  The decoder burned out.  Lucky for me BLI headquarters is only about 45 minutes away so a few us made a road trip over there a couple of weeks later and they fixed it right up while we browsed in their store.  Greg had to restrain himself from running Greg speed while running trains on their layout.   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 19, 2019, 08:44:06 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 19, 2019, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: MAP on January 19, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
That Ovalix is the 9th Wonder of the World Tom!  Hard to believe it's been 2 years since you've worked on the top section.  Great track work and tutorial as usual.

It kills switchers I tell ya!  Just kidding.  A couple years ago I purchased a new BLI Reading SW1500 and took it down to Tom's for it's inaugural run.  It got just about to the top of the Ovalix when stopped dead in its tracks and there was a faint odor of fried electronics.  The decoder burned out.  Lucky for me BLI headquarters is only about 45 minutes away so a few us made a road trip over there a couple of weeks later and they fixed it right up while we browsed in their store.  Greg had to restrain himself from running Greg speed while running trains on their layout.   ;D


Hey Bob.....I try not to be rude and do that on other layouts, but it's really hard to rein it in sometimes.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on January 19, 2019, 09:18:59 AM
It's very cool to see you getting back to work on the layout again Uncle Tommie.  I think I have to agree with that helix being "The 9th wonder of the world".  Truely an amazing engineering achievement.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: MAP on January 19, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
That Ovalix is the 9th Wonder of the World Tom!  Hard to believe it's been 2 years since you've worked on the top section.  Great track work and tutorial as usual.


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciate your comments.

I'm very happy to be back working on the layout doing track work. Yep, the two years sure went by fast.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 03:01:07 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 19, 2019, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: MAP on January 19, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
That Ovalix is the 9th Wonder of the World Tom!  Hard to believe it's been 2 years since you've worked on the top section.  Great track work and tutorial as usual.

It kills switchers I tell ya!  Just kidding.  A couple years ago I purchased a new BLI Reading SW1500 and took it down to Tom's for it's inaugural run.  It got just about to the top of the Ovalix when stopped dead in its tracks and there was a faint odor of fried electronics.  The decoder burned out.  Lucky for me BLI headquarters is only about 45 minutes away so a few us made a road trip over there a couple of weeks later and they fixed it right up while we browsed in their store.  Greg had to restrain himself from running Greg speed while running trains on their layout.   ;D


Bob,

I do remember that day. I felt bad the the Reading switcher made it up but not down. I'm very familiar with the electrical burn smell.

At least they fixed it for free. Which by the way is Greg's price.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 19, 2019, 08:44:06 AM


Hey Bob.....I try not to be rude and do that on other layouts, but it's really hard to rein it in sometimes.  :)


Yea, right, if you say so.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
I'd like to add to the last few posts regarding the Ovalix and trackwork.

The area of the Ovalix is 10 feet long and 8.25 feet wide.

The actual Ovalix outside diameter is 8.5 feet long and 6.25 feet wide.

By definition it is a Helix but I call mine an Ovalix as it is oval in shape and not circular.

On each end of the Ovalix the track is set at a 36 inch radius.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145403.jpeg)

On the long sides, there is a section of track that is 30 inches in length. This makes it easier for long trains, especially passenger trains, to climb the 3.25 inches in 26 feet. As mentioned, this makes it a 1 degree incline. Certainly much better than the average of 3 degrees incline on most model railroads.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145419.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 03:14:16 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145433.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
When I discussed the straight track being soldered to the 36 radius curved section, I didn't mean to indicate it stayed straight. The straight piece, after being soldered, was then bent/curved to the 36 inch radius curve to finish the south end.

In the photo below, you'll notice the solder tube. This is where I made the soldered joint from the 36" radius to the section of straight track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145326.jpeg)

You can see the straight piece on the left is now at the required 36" radius to match the right section of 36" radius.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145342.jpeg)

I had two emails asking for further details on the track in the Ovalix.

Hope this makes it more understandable. If not, let me know and I'll try something else.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on January 19, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
Your trackwork looks great!  Mine sucks.  I found several kinks apparently due to heating/contracting of the splines underneath.  I'm soldering feeders, another part of trackwork I dislike.

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:30:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on January 19, 2019, 09:18:59 AM
It's very cool to see you getting back to work on the layout again Uncle Tommie.  I think I have to agree with that helix being "The 9th wonder of the world".  Truely an amazing engineering achievement.

;D ;D :o

Cousin Bruce,

Thank you kind sir. I can only take credit for the build. If Greg DeMayo hadn't done this in CAD, printed it for me, there is no telling what it may look like now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:35:18 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 19, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
Your trackwork looks great!  Mine sucks.  I found several kinks apparently due to heating/contracting of the splines underneath.  I'm soldering feeders, another part of trackwork I dislike.

dave


Dave,

Thank you for the nice compliment. Howard Zane suggested I try spline roadbed but I passed on the idea. I'm a Florida Cracker and just got used to plywood and Homosote. This layout is all on plywood with mostly cork roadbed.

There is some expansion in the plywood here but not enough to have ever affected my track.

I dislike soldering feeders as well but it is a necessary evil.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:44:43 PM
I promise this is the last time I'll go over this part of the build.

I've come up on another curve that needs to be installed on an existing 36" radius curve.

The offending rail on this curve is on the bottom right.

The left track is the straight one.

The green track gauge is 14" long and a 36" radius. I've never found it necessary to use the sectional radius gauges from Fast Tracks. I guess I've been doing this to long.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183657.jpeg)

I just eyeballed how much to cut off the bottom rail.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183711.jpeg)

I almost got it the first time. I then aligned the two track rails and used a Sharpie to mark the amount needed to be removed.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
I nipped off the blackened part of the rail, used the Dremel disc to square the ends.

Now I have a nice tight alignment.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183725.jpeg)

Atlas Code 80 rail joiners were place on the rails. Notice the bottom rails where the joiner is not in the center of the two rails?

Take a small flat head and slide it in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183740.jpeg)

Solder the two rail joints.

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
Believe it or not, the rails are now soldered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183758.jpeg)

I thought I didn't solder them so this afternoon I went back and soldered them again.

If I had taken a closer look, the second soldering wasn't necessary.

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 06:58:23 PM
When the second soldering occured, I got some solder on the inside and top of the bottom rail.

I used a needle file to remove the solder on the inside of the rail. Over looking this can be very frustrating down the road. I was running the three passenger cars over the joint and the three wheel heavyweight caught the solder and made a "bump".

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183817.jpeg)

Oddly enough, the solder on top of the rail made no difference. However, I knew it was there and filed it smooth.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183833.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 19, 2019, 07:00:07 PM
Finally, after many years of working on the Ovalix, I've reached the top and now the three passenger cars are on the top/third level.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119183851.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 19, 2019, 08:04:13 PM
Congratulations Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2019, 07:46:46 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 19, 2019, 08:04:13 PM
Congratulations Tom.


Curt,

Thank you. Its a small milestone but and accomplishment all the same.

Tom  ;D


Curt is switching a leased PRR L1 2-8-2 in Tahope and the Judge is at the throttle of the ACL Champion.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190119145311.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on January 20, 2019, 09:02:04 AM
Thanks for you pm and the follow up withe pictures. I figured that was what you were doing  I think my problem can be traced to a poor soldering job and nor using connectors. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2019, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on January 20, 2019, 09:02:04 AM
Thanks for you pm and the follow up withe pictures. I figured that was what you were doing  I think my problem can be traced to a poor soldering job and nor using connectors. Jim


Jim,

You are very welcome, happy to help.

I've never used connectors if you are talking about them to connect the feeders from the track. I solder my feeders directly to the buss wires. It takes more time and is a hassle but for me it's well worth not worrying about a loose wire.  8) 8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 21, 2019, 05:33:24 PM
Once I got to the top of the Ovalix, I wanted to install two #8 turnouts. I either needed to "kitbash" the turnouts or lose 1.5 degrees of the 36" radius. This 36" radius curve is part of the north reverse loop on the third level.

I decided to make the adjustment at the turnouts instead of reducing the 36" curve to a 34.5" radius.

In the photo below the left turnout goes to the mainline and north reverse loop. The turnout on the right is just the opposite. One line comes up from the Ovalix and the other is part of the south reverse loop.

Here are the two #8 turnouts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171256.jpeg)

To get my 1.5 inch back, I need to remove 3/4" from each turnout. This 3/4" length is equal to three ties and rail from each end of the turnout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171241.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 21, 2019, 05:37:23 PM
I removed the three ties as shown. The black Sharpie mark is where the rail needs to be removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119170624.jpeg)

The rails on the left turnout were cut, squared with the Dremel, and rail joiners added. Notice I also shortened the rail joiner by cutting off the end.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171315.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 21, 2019, 05:40:29 PM
I kitbashed the right turnout as well.

Now you can see the two turnouts are quite shorter, actually 1.5 inches as needed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171332.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 21, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Over the past two days I've laid a box of Midwest Cork Roadbed. Laying cork is also like laying track. It has to be free of any bumps and should be considered a model also. Look at the roadbed as a subassembly to the track.

Here is where I started. The turnout main is the south section of the north reverse loop section. You'll see more of this when track is laid. The track going to the left is the north section of the north reverse loop.

I have a different way of laying the cork to ensure a smooth and level sub roadbed for the track. I'll go over this tomorrow.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171410.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171428.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 21, 2019, 05:54:26 PM
Instead of changing all the narratives above, I'll change it here.

When I mentioned "reverse loop" above, I was actually meaning the north "Y" and south "Y", which is what I refer to as the reverse loop.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 21, 2019, 06:02:20 PM
Doing great work Tom. Am I correct in thinking there is a wye on both sides of the 3rd level ovalix?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on January 21, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
Your trackwork is inspiring Tom , would the Ovalix be easy to scale down or do I have to speak to Gregory about one in N-scale  ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 21, 2019, 06:02:20 PM
Doing great work Tom. Am I correct in thinking there is a wye on both sides of the 3rd level ovalix?


Curt,

Thank you. Yes, you are correct.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 21, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
Your trackwork is inspiring Tom , would the Ovalix be easy to scale down or do I have to speak to Gregory about one in N-scale  ::) ;D


Jan,

Thank you. I'll send what information I have Greg did for me. See if it will work or you can scale it to "N" scale.

If not I'm sure we can get Greg to help.

Tom  ;D


PS - Jan, I sent the information to you in a PM.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 22, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 21, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
Your trackwork is inspiring Tom , would the Ovalix be easy to scale down or do I have to speak to Gregory about one in N-scale  ::) ;D


Jan,

Thank you. I'll send what information I have Greg did for me. See if it will work or you can scale it to "N" scale.

If not I'm sure we can get Greg to help.

Tom  ;D


PS - Jan, I sent the information to you in a PM.


Be happy to hop in if needed.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 22, 2019, 09:13:10 AM
Hey Tom.....I thought I'd share a bit of happiness with you.


Our nephew and his family are in town from Dallas and came by for a visit and dinner on Sunday. After a bit the grand nephew asked to see the trains so in we went to the layout.


I had a NYC Dryfuss Hudson J3a on the track and started it up.....got it slowly going down the track and you'll never guess what the first thing out of his mouth was....."FASTER" Unc. What a little guy.  :) :) :)


Can't wait to get him up in a plane.....his dad loved it when he was younger and when we used to fly someplace to get breakfast or lunch.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 09:18:33 AM
Greg,

Congratulations, I guess that "Greg Speed" thing is in the family DNA.

My grandson always wanted the trains to go faster when he was little. Now, he doesn't even care about trains or even seeing the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on January 22, 2019, 09:40:05 AM
As we say in drag racing - 1 gear - 1 speed
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on January 22, 2019, 09:50:11 AM
Thanks Tom and Greg, love this place, especially the people that meet here.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on January 22, 2019, 09:40:05 AM
As we say in drag racing - 1 gear - 1 speed


Doug,

That's Greg, 1 gear - 1 speed!  ;D ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 02:50:17 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 22, 2019, 09:50:11 AM
Thanks Tom and Greg, love this place, especially the people that meet here.


Jan,

You are very welcome. I agree, this place is wonderful.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:13:56 PM
Prior to laying cork for the track, I draw in the radius and straight section lines. I'll either use a pencil or black ink felt tip.

I then lay each side of the cork on either side of the line, tack it in place and see how it looks. I'll do this over a large area of the layout.

The reason I do it this way is learning from past experiences.

I'd rather find a problem with the track fitting now than later after the cork is glued in place. If the cork fits, then I'm 99.9% certain the track will fit on the cork. I'm giving that .1% to Mr. Murphy should he show his ugly self.

You can see I've already done the inside curve. This is the curve coming off the top of the Ovalix.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171354.jpeg)

Looking south over the north wye.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171428.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:16:06 PM
Same as above from different angle.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171443.jpeg)

Looking south towards the Ovalix.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171541.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:17:35 PM

Extra photos.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171605.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171620.jpeg)


Continued -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
Here I'm making sure the angle of the cork matches the #8 turnouts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171644.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210119171657.jpeg)

Back in a few, going to grab some H2O.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:22:17 PM
Once satisfied with the cork and placement, I'll remove the piece of cork closest to me and redraw the line as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220119150148.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220119150202.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 22, 2019, 03:32:19 PM
I'll then use a 1/2 wide old brush and brush on some Elmer's glue. The brush spreads the glue flat so there are no humps when the cork is added.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220119150217.jpeg)

After the outside piece of cork is added, it is tacked in place and the glue is allowed to dry. When dry, the inside piece is glued in place. The outside piece, now dry, is used as a backstop for pushing the inside piece up tight for a better subroadbed.

All this prepping and extra work goes for smooth and very reliable track.

Done for the day. I've put in my 8 hours of work.

Back for more tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: JusticeCity on January 22, 2019, 04:29:30 PM
Tom,


I can hardly wait to see the layout. There is so much more than when we were there in Sep 2017.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 22, 2019, 08:51:17 PM
Tom


Thanks for the tutorial on laying cork. I always learn something when I stop in to visit this thread. I don't care how long you have been in the hobby you can always learn and improve. Thanks again for taking the time to make this forum a great place.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on January 23, 2019, 09:05:29 AM
Tom:  Can you document how you fill in the switch gap on your next post?  I've had mixed results doing it different ways. Being in N, critical to get a smooth fit.  I've resorted to cutting out roadbed for the entire switch from a cork or foam sheet to meet the need. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2019, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: JusticeCity on January 22, 2019, 04:29:30 PM
Tom,


I can hardly wait to see the layout. There is so much more than when we were there in Sep 2017.


Marty,

Hard to believe it has been two years since you and Kelsie were here. Looking forward to the visit. See you and your wife on 31st.

There have been many new items and additions since your last visit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2019, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 22, 2019, 08:51:17 PM
Tom


Thanks for the tutorial on laying cork. I always learn something when I stop in to visit this thread. I don't care how long you have been in the hobby you can always learn and improve. Thanks again for taking the time to make this forum a great place.


John,

You are very welcome my friend. I learn from this forum as well. Lots of good stuff here.

Thank you for the support and kind words.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
Larry,

Cork subroadbed is critical in all scales especially in N and HO scales.

Starting on page 9 and going through page 10 of this thread, I actually did a cork turnout installation.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3848.120 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3848.120)

Review those pages and see if that is what you need. If not, the next cork turnout I install will be the same. Let me know.

The method I use is the same one Lynn Armstrong taught back in the 60's.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 23, 2019, 12:52:42 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That helix is super impressive!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 24, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
Hey Tom:

Latest pic look just great. Thanks for sharing with us.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on January 24, 2019, 10:07:21 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 23, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
Larry,

Starting on page 9 and going through page 10 of this thread, I actually did a cork turnout installation.

How quickly I forget.  Even commented on that presentation then (October 16)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on January 24, 2019, 10:24:47 AM
I wish I had carefully read that stuff before I started laying the homabed for my track. 


On a related note, I've been talking to Mike Rose about why I got those kinks, and he suggests a dehumidifier would be in order.  Apparently Homabed is particularly sensitive to humidity (absorbs it like a sponge.)  My basement is dry, but any below-ground structure will collect humidity.  So I've been doing some on-line research.  Guess the money I might have used for a Proxxon chop saw will get retargeted to the dehumidifier.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 23, 2019, 12:52:42 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That helix is super impressive!

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you for stopping by and posting a comment on the Ovalix, much appreciated. Greg DeMayo is the hero here for the design.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 24, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
Hey Tom:

Latest pic look just great. Thanks for sharing with us.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks so much for the comment, appreciate it. You are welcome, my pleasure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on January 24, 2019, 10:07:21 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 23, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
Larry,

Starting on page 9 and going through page 10 of this thread, I actually did a cork turnout installation.


How quickly I forget.  Even commented on that presentation then (October 16)

Larry,

No problem. I'll be doing more turnouts using cork next week. I'll do one with much more detail. The one I did on pages 9-10 was a quickie post for a "how to".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 24, 2019, 10:24:47 AM
I wish I had carefully read that stuff before I started laying the homabed for my track. 


On a related note, I've been talking to Mike Rose about why I got those kinks, and he suggests a dehumidifier would be in order.  Apparently Homabed is particularly sensitive to humidity (absorbs it like a sponge.)  My basement is dry, but any below-ground structure will collect humidity.  So I've been doing some on-line research.  Guess the money I might have used for a Proxxon chop saw will get retargeted to the dehumidifier.


dave


Dave,

Thanks for comment and for following along.

Homosote/Homabed does indeed soak up moisture. I had an issue with moisture in the past and used a dehumidifier as well. Since I no longer use any paper product for subroadbed, I haven't experienced and problems.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 03:54:31 PM
I continued with the cork roadbed around the south end of the Ovalix. This section of straight track will be part of the mainline and the long passenger trains will use it to back onto the third level island and into the station.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154645.jpeg)

The passenger trains will back across a #8 turnout and on a 52 inch radius track. The large radius will make backing the long passenger trains much easier.

The black line in the center is the 52 inch radius compared to the 36 inch radius track in the top of the photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154625.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 03:57:59 PM
I used a section of Masonite to measure the 52" radius curve. I measured 52 inches from one end and drilled a hole at the 52" mark. This was my pivot point.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154421.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154444.jpeg)

I held a black Sharpie at the end and drew the radius.

continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 04:02:57 PM
Once the cork was laid in this area, it was time to smooth the edges and top.

I used some medium (course) sandpaper to smooth the edges and top. I then used some #50 grit sandpaper to finish the job.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154315.jpeg)

Vacuuming the mess was next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154345.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2019, 04:04:22 PM
Laying some track was next.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250119154729.jpeg)

I'll have more to add later this weekend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on January 25, 2019, 06:57:14 PM
Tom. What's that track laying jig?  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 26, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
Track onto the 3rd level.....I bet Bill is just beside himself with anticipation.....looking good Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on January 25, 2019, 06:57:14 PM
Tom. What's that track laying jig?  Jim


Jim,

I've had that one 38" radius jig for about 30 years. Don't remember who made it but Peco now has them available through Walthers.

https://dealers.walthers.com/exec/search?manu=552&split=30&category=Track&start=210

Ribbonrail also makes track gauges/alignment gauges.

https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/brands/Ribbon-Rail.html

Hope this helps.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 26, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
Track onto the 3rd level.....I bet Bill is just beside himself with anticipation.....looking good Tom.  8)


Greg,

Thank you my friend. Yes, the Judge had a wonderful time today with the Ovalix. I'm sure there will be more in the Saturday report.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
I installed a Peco #8 left hand turnout on the far side of the Ovalix. The track off the left hand will be the longest section of the wye "leg".

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154535.jpeg)

I marked on the cork where the Tortoise link will be and then drilled a hold in the cork and plywood. To prevent the sawdust and wood chips from falling onto the lower level, I placed an old baking tin under the turnout location to catch the debris.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154552.jpeg)

I then vacuumed the area and installed the turnout.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
I installed the track from this turnout to a straight section on the north side.

I then installed the track from the westside, around the corner to the straight section.

I'm wondering if the 86 ft. passenger car will derail on this curve!   ;D ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154638.jpeg)


Just goes to show ya'll how flexible the flextrack is.

Okay, now both curved sections are meeting in the 21.5 inch straight section. A piece will need to be cut and fit into the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154701.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
Fast forward and the short section of track was cut and fit into place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154719.jpeg)

This section of track is not soldered. I will solder all the curved sections but not all the straight sections of track. Due to the humidity in Florida, I've learned from past experiences to leave some sections unsoldered so the track can expand/contract.

I've enlarged the next photo to show you a very small gap in the rail. This gap appears to be about 1/8 inch wide.

In actuality it is only 1.25 mm wide. The three test passenger cars were run back and forth over this area with no noticeable bump.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154740.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 04:13:29 PM
The fill in ties were added next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154757.jpeg)

Yes, all roadbed and track is level as well as my level car.  8)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154916.jpeg)


Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2019, 04:15:40 PM
The inner circle of track is now complete as well. This track the extension of the top of the Ovalix.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154819.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260119154849.jpeg)

More track laying and turnout installations tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on January 26, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Those tracks look awfully close, Tom.  Are you sure a steam loco cab on the curve won't hit anything on the other track?  They have a tendency to "hang out".   8)


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 27, 2019, 08:15:13 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on January 26, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Those tracks look awfully close, Tom.  Are you sure a steam loco cab on the curve won't hit anything on the other track?  They have a tendency to "hang out".   8)


Jeff


Jeff,

Yes, they are close and planned that way. The two tracks are part of the north wye/reverse loop and only one train can occupy the loop/wye at a time. So the cab hangover is not an issue here.

The cars are just showing the trackage is finished here. I should have explained that better.

Appreciate the comment and thanks for looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 27, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
I've had a few questions and emails over the past weeks concerning the cork roadbed and turnouts.

I mentioned when I did another one, that a more detailed thread would be in order. This morning I installed two, one in line with another. I installed a #8 and added a #6 on the top end.

I think I've captured some 40+ photos of the process. Due to this, I won't complete the process in today's post. It will be posted over a few days. It is all finished on my end but I don't have the time to show it all in this post.

To begin, one needs to understand how the Midwest Cork Roadbed works. This may be new to some and old to most. However, understanding the cork is important.

Here is an end view of a 3 ft. section of cork roadbed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119135540.jpeg)

The cork separates in the middle. Here is a view of the separated cork. Notice one side is rough and one side is smooth. This knowledge is critical for laying the cork properly.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119135603.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 27, 2019, 02:18:06 PM
The two separated pieces of cork ARE NOT the same width. The smooth piece is 5 HO scale feet wide and the rough piece is 6 HO scale feet wide.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119135639.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119135655.jpeg)

With this knowledge in mind, the two halves need to always be opposed to each other. Of course you can have the two narrow and the two wide sections together. It fits better with the one narrow and one wide opposed to each other.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 27, 2019, 02:38:08 PM
Two narrow pieces together -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119143458.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119143516.jpeg)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 27, 2019, 02:41:11 PM
Two wide pieces together -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119143533.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270119143547.jpeg)

As I mentioned, you can have the two pieces together but the roadbed will not be consistent.

Again, the wide and narrow pieces need to be opposed to each other.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:16:27 PM
The track gang was very busy today working on the A&S RR.  130 feet of cork and track was laid from Summit, around the back of the Ovalix, across the 30 degree crossing west of Summit and down the west side of level three.

Laying cork and track is just, well, laying track and cork. Ya'll need no photos for this.

There is a #8 turnout coming off the third level mainline crossing a 30 degree crossing and down the middle of the third level island.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119160951.jpeg)

One problem, other than Atlas(no way I'm buying one of those), there is no Walthers/Shinohara 30 degree crossing available. I've found plenty of 60s and 90s. Walthers isn't expecting any for the next several months if then.

However, I prepared the area when one does arrive. If necessary I'll scratch build one but only as a last resort.

I printed out the photo from Walthers online site and scaled it to "HO". I placed a section of code 83 track over the template to make sure I had the correct scale.

After just a little tweaking, I had it.

I glued it to the plywood.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161007.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:20:32 PM
Cork was glued over the template, sanded and one section of track was added.

I'll let the next several photos tell the story. My fingers are getting hoarse from all the cork and track laying.

From the center of the crossing, I've allowed for a section of 7 inches of straight track each way.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161024.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161138.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:25:21 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161040.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161110.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161209.jpeg)


This track is temporary and the 30 degree crossing will be cut in later.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280119161223.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on January 28, 2019, 04:37:07 PM
Hi Tom,

Your trackwork is coming along very well.  Jeff Otto, Oak Hill Model Railroad supply can make a crossing for you at any degree you want. He does a good job.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 28, 2019, 08:23:06 PM
Does Peco make one you can use?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 29, 2019, 08:44:10 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 29, 2019, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: sdrees on January 28, 2019, 04:37:07 PM
Hi Tom,

Your trackwork is coming along very well.  Jeff Otto, Oak Hill Model Railroad supply can make a crossing for you at any degree you want. He does a good job.


Steve,

Appreciate you checking in and mentioning Oak Hill. I checked them out last week but I think $150.00 starting price is just over the top.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 29, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 28, 2019, 08:23:06 PM
Does Peco make one you can use?


Curt,

No, they don't.  :'(

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 29, 2019, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 29, 2019, 08:44:10 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on January 29, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:16:27 PM

One problem, other than Atlas(no way I'm buying one of those),

I'm not in HO so not familiar with the situation.  Can you elaborate?  Curious.

Larry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on January 29, 2019, 10:55:20 AM
Tom, that cork looks like it is one piece.  Great job.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 29, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on January 29, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 28, 2019, 04:16:27 PM

One problem, other than Atlas(no way I'm buying one of those),

I'm not in HO so not familiar with the situation.  Can you elaborate?  Curious.

Larry


Larry,

The Atlas crossing are just cheaply made and the quality is very much lacking. The gaps in and around the crossing/diamond are way out of scale as well.

It's the old story, you get what you pay for.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 29, 2019, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on January 29, 2019, 10:55:20 AM
Tom, that cork looks like it is one piece.  Great job.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you. One piece, yes, it is now.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on January 29, 2019, 08:59:27 PM
Been following along.  You really do some excellent track laying Tom.  Like Jim said, the cork looks like it's made like that...not fitted in by you.  With the track installed on what appears to be perfectly laid cork, the trains must glide over those rails!  As usual having fun following your thread.  Keep those pics coming.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 01, 2019, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: MAP on January 29, 2019, 08:59:27 PM
Been following along.  You really do some excellent track laying Tom.  Like Jim said, the cork looks like it's made like that...not fitted in by you.  With the track installed on what appears to be perfectly laid cork, the trains must glide over those rails!  As usual having fun following your thread.  Keep those pics coming.


Mark,

Thank you for the compliment on the cork and track. I've learned over the years to just do it right and all will be fine.

So far, the passenger cars do glide over the track and turnouts. More pics are on the way.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 01, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Today was spent wiring the wye north of Summit.

I installed a PSX-AR (auto reverser) and will test it later. Well, actually I tested it as I dropped and soldered feeders. A full test will be done later today and I'm sure the Judge will put it to a full test tomorrow.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 01, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
A good friend, PennsyJ1, sent me this video of a crossing.

Seems like for all he moving parts, the crossing could have just been laid in.



https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54 (https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 01, 2019, 03:49:49 PM
Now that would be great to model! Hey, it's prototypical  8).
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 01, 2019, 07:16:57 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks like you're hard at work. Keep the pics flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2019, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 01, 2019, 03:49:49 PM
Now that would be great to model! Hey, it's prototypical  8) .


Curt,

Yes, that would be an eye catcher on any layout for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2019, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 01, 2019, 07:16:57 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks like you're hard at work. Keep the pics flowing.

Karl


Karl,

Yes, working on the railroad is truly hard work, er, play around here.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2019, 01:55:45 PM
The Summit "Y" was thoroughly tested today. I'm happy to report no issues and NO derailments. The Judge will have more on this in the Saturday Report.

I put the Judge and Reading Bob to work this morning. Judge was at the throttle and Bob was the switchman.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020219135439.jpeg)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on February 02, 2019, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 01, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
A good friend, PennsyJ1, sent me this video of a crossing.
Seems like for all he moving parts, the crossing could have just been laid in.

https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54 (https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54)



Wonder if the NMRA would approve that for Master Model Railroader - Civil Engineering?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on February 02, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Tom, are you going to install a backdrop where the Ovalix is, or leave it open so you can watch the progress of the train?


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 02, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
Tom


You had some high caliber help there, today.  Looking good my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 02, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
Sorry I had to miss today Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on February 02, 2019, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 01, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
A good friend, PennsyJ1, sent me this video of a crossing.
Seems like for all he moving parts, the crossing could have just been laid in.

https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54 (https://youtu.be/ho8AzAm9f54)



Wonder if the NMRA would approve that for Master Model Railroader - Civil Engineering?


Chip,

Only if you are part of their "group". The NMRA is the most over rated, nose in the air group I've ever known.

Just saying, this is the reason I've always been a GDI.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2019, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 02, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Tom, are you going to install a backdrop where the Ovalix is, or leave it open so you can watch the progress of the train?


Jeff


Jeff,

The Ovalix is such an engineering marvel, I decided to leave it open for viewing the trains.  ;D ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2019, 10:22:40 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 02, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
Tom


You had some high caliber help there, today.  Looking good my friend.


John,

Thank you, yes, we did have quite the "honor roll" here Saturday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2019, 10:23:47 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 02, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
Sorry I had to miss today Tom.


Curt,

You are welcome any Saturday you can get away. We had fun yesterday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 03, 2019, 10:36:26 AM
Hey Tom

Just getting caught up again.  Wow you've really done some nice things.  Your progress is amazing!

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 03, 2019, 10:49:38 AM
I had a blast yesterday.  It was amazing to watch those relatively long trains rolling smoothly everywhere they went.  I didn't see any wheel sets bump, jump or do anything other than roll smoothly over the rails.   :D   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 05, 2019, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 03, 2019, 10:36:26 AM
Hey Tom

Just getting caught up again.  Wow you've really done some nice things.  Your progress is amazing!

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you for stopping by, much appreciated. I'm retired so getting stuff done is no problem.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 05, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 03, 2019, 10:49:38 AM
I had a blast yesterday.  It was amazing to watch those relatively long trains rolling smoothly everywhere they went.  I didn't see any wheel sets bump, jump or do anything other than roll smoothly over the rails.   :D


Bob,

I appreciate you stopping by for a visit. Always fun BSing and running trains.

Smooth track for long trains is a requirement of the A&S RR CEO. I believe the use of all #8 PECO turnouts on the third level will pay off big in the smooth running of passenger trains.

No bumps allowed on the A&S RR.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 05, 2019, 05:15:32 PM
Over the past few days I've added two mainline sections on the third level, west side.

The inside, or house track is 14 ft. in length and the mainline/outside track is 15.5 ft. in length. This is long enough to handle an E A-B-A unit and 11-12 passenger cars. If passengers are to be dropped at the station, the train can only disembark passengers on the house track. The outside will remain open for mainline use.

I have photos but have been to busy to load, crop and add to the thread. Perhaps later this week I'll get them up.

Also, I need to find a little "under the layout space" to store the junk I've been storing on the third level the past two years. Looks like I'll be building some more shelves.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Over the past few days, I've been working on the layout and finding every little nook and cranny to stash my stash of stuff. I used the center isle for storage and had to move it all to the third level when the middle isle was completed and filled with track.

I had a scenery cart and it really didn't fit in, under or around the layout. It was also took up space I needed.

I built a few small shelves behind the small room Diet Pepsi ice box. That box is now full of bottled water and no Diet Pepsi. I'm now Diet Pepsi free for almost three weeks.

I did leave room at the bottom so the ice box compressor has room to vent heat.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154601.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154524.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
I was dropping/pulling wires from the master power source to the third level. I realized I forgot to drill a few feeder holes in the braces supporting the third level.

This is what happens when it must be done after the fact.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154504.jpeg)

Clean up on isle two later!  8) 8)


Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
I wanted to have more than a 36" radius curve on the third level as it leaves the area east of the 30 degree crossing. I made a small radius jig from a strip of Masonite.

I measured from 40 to 50 inches at two inch intervals. After several tests, I decided the 42 would look and fit the best.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154544.jpeg)

I held a Sharpie at the other end and drew the 42 inch radius around the east corner.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154617.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2019, 05:43:11 PM

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154655.jpeg)

Cork laid in place, sanded and vacuumed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080219154710.jpeg)

I'll have more on Sunday afternoon.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2019, 04:55:36 PM
I'm still laying track and dropping feeders to the buss line.

This morning I added a two track signal bridge to the third level main line. I think the bridge is an old brass NJ International model. I added the targets using Oregon Rail Supply parts.

I wired it using 1.5 MM Green and Red LEDs from Miniatronics. The LEDs are 3 volt and I used 1/4 watt - 470 ohm resistors. They will work up to 15VDC. I'm pulling the power for the LEDS off the main buss line.

They are mainly just for lighting effects and are controlled by the Tortoise switch motor. If the switch is thrown for the diverging route, the main goes red and visa versa.

I have only one side wired. The other side will be finished tomorrow.



(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100219164009.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100219164029.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2019, 04:57:26 PM
For this one small signal bridge there sure are a lot of wires!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100219164045.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2019, 05:00:16 PM

Here's a short half minute video.

https://youtu.be/TcyBRVFNwoc
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 10, 2019, 05:41:57 PM
Very nice Tom. Working signals really add to the realism.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on February 10, 2019, 07:31:50 PM
Signals look great. You can really see how well the shadowbox effect presents itself (on the lower level) in the video as well.


Nice job!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 11, 2019, 08:36:17 AM
Tom


I thought I would let you know that I have been paying attention as I read your thread.  I just received a big box full of #8 Peco turnouts and flex track for my new section on my layout. My wallet is a little lighter but the trains will run good.  The new section is going to be all Peco - as long as I can get all the pieces.  I have a pretty long backorder list but it is all supposed to be here this month.  Thanks again for all the hard work posting - I don't care how long you have been in the hobby you will learn something reading this thread.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PennsyJ1 on February 12, 2019, 04:53:00 AM
The signal bridge look great. It will really pop when you get the scenery in place. How many signal bridges are you going to have on this tiny model railroad?
Bill
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2019, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 10, 2019, 05:41:57 PM
Very nice Tom. Working signals really add to the realism.

Curt,

Thank you. I agree and will be adding more in the distance future.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2019, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: cuse on February 10, 2019, 07:31:50 PM
Signals look great. You can really see how well the shadowbox effect presents itself (on the lower level) in the video as well.


Nice job!


John


John,

Thank you. Once the third level fascia is up the shadow box effect will look a little more professional.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2019, 02:28:52 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 11, 2019, 08:36:17 AM
Tom


I thought I would let you know that I have been paying attention as I read your thread.  I just received a big box full of #8 Peco turnouts and flex track for my new section on my layout. My wallet is a little lighter but the trains will run good.  The new section is going to be all Peco - as long as I can get all the pieces.  I have a pretty long backorder list but it is all supposed to be here this month.  Thanks again for all the hard work posting - I don't care how long you have been in the hobby you will learn something reading this thread.


John,

Appreciate you stopping by. The PECO turnouts are a bit pricey but very much worth the expense. I used Micro Engineering on the second level. Although they work fine, I should have used PECO on that level as well.

As you know, you and I both enjoy posting our progress and I learn from this forum also.

By the way, I'm not using the PECO flex track. I'm using ME code 83 flex track.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2019, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on February 12, 2019, 04:53:00 AM
The signal bridge look great. It will really pop when you get the scenery in place. How many signal bridges are you going to have on this tiny model railroad?
Bill


Brother Bill,

Thank you, much appreciated. Scenery and buildings will really bring it all to life. I have three signal bridges and 18 single mast signals.

I'm trying to make this "tiny" railroad look huge like the one you have.  8) 8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2019, 02:41:31 PM
Taking a break from wiring, I hate wiring, and decided to post early this afternoon.

When I wired the south side of the signal bridge, the left target was dead. I tested all before the install but I guess I crossed a wire and "fried" the LEDs,

I'll remove the signal bridge nest week and make the repair.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120219141955.jpeg)

This morning I spent the better part of an hour locating my signals.

These are all 30 years old or older. They came off my old old layout. That would be three layouts ago.

I tested all of them and found 12 still working. Six others either had the red or green LED not working. I'll make those repairs next week when I repair the signal bridge. They were all kit bashed from Oregon Rails parts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120219142010.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 12, 2019, 06:54:12 PM
Installing signals tend to be tedious and frustrating, but look great on the layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 12, 2019, 06:54:12 PM
Installing signals tend to be tedious and frustrating, but look great on the layout.


Curt,

Appreciate you checking in, thank you. When finished, the signals will add much more realism to the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 14, 2019, 06:27:21 PM
Hey Tom:

Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:07:41 PM
Karl,

Thanks for stopping by my friend. For me, I get the same feeling wiring as I get going to the dentist for a root canal.  8)   :'(

Fun, yes, if only I could find someone better at it than I am.  ;D ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:18:59 PM
I now have 8 tortoise turnouts installed and wired on the third level. I also have 5 signals to wire but that story is for another day.

With the 8 Tortoise motors installed, it's time to add them to the DCC Loco Net with my Digitrax DCC system. I'm adding the Digitrax DS64 Stationary Decoder to control the motors.

I'll be using/adding three new ones to the other 7 I have installed for the second level.

These three will go next to the two on the bottom.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181512.jpeg)

These are the tools I'll be using.

Six wire phone cable, six wire phone jack, crimping tool, screws and a small drill.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181533.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
The three new ones are now in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181548.jpeg)

Next I added the 6 wire phone cable with jacks for connecting them to the loco net.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181607.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:27:34 PM
Here is how the phone cable is connected to the end jacks.

Cut the length of cable needed and strip both ends. You can strip one end at a time as well. I used the crimping tool to remove the grey sleeve from the wires.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181628.jpeg)

Next I added the jacks to each end.

It really doesn't matter how you attach the end jacks as long as you get them tight. I try to keep it simple by either using the flat side of clip side as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181641.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:29:57 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181657.jpeg)


Once the jacks are on the ends, crimp them in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181713.jpeg)

Simple enough for me to figure out and do.

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:33:12 PM
Again, here is the photo of the cables on place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181607.jpeg)

I forgot to mention I got the 6 wire phone cable from a local surplus Army/Navy Supply house. I got just under 500 feet for about $10.00. Should last me through this layout and then some.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181729.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
Next I added the power wires to the three DS64s.


I used the thin solid copper wire for the power leads. These are shown with the blue and white wires in the next photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181749.jpeg)

I have all green lights which means I can now add the Tortoise turnouts wires and program the DS64 for DCC control of the turnouts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on February 14, 2019, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 14, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
Next I added the power wires to the three DS64s.

I used the thin solid copper wire for the power leads. These are shown with the blue and white wires in the next photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181749.jpeg)

I have all green lights which means I can now add the Tortoise turnouts wires and program the DS64 for DCC control of the turnouts.

Somewhere, over the rainbow......
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on February 15, 2019, 04:24:01 AM
What a project Tom!  The signals will really add a whole new level of realism to the layout.  And all of those Digitrax units look like you can guide a rocket to Mars!!  Impressive.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 15, 2019, 11:52:27 AM
Tom, I'm sure it will be perfect when done. Do you need anymore DS64's for the rest of the third level, or will 3 be enough?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 05:18:52 PM
Chip,

I love your sense of humor, thanks for stopping by. Hope all is well with the Mrs. now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: MAP on February 15, 2019, 04:24:01 AM
What a project Tom!  The signals will really add a whole new level of realism to the layout.  And all of those Digitrax units look like you can guide a rocket to Mars!!  Impressive.


Mark,

Thank you. I've added a few more signals to the upper level. The one problem with feeding them off the Tortoise turnouts is that the turnout controls the signals. Meaning if you reverse the train, the signal lights won't be correct.

I have all the parts for the signals set up for blocks but didn't feel like adding a zillion additional wires under each level.

If I was an electrical engineer like Jim Miller, it would have been done. I'm just lazy in the prototypical signaling department.

My signals are really eye candy but do work in a prototypical manner if you constantly go in the one direction.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 05:30:32 PM
Curt,

I used three and have four more at hand.

On the second level, I have 7 DS64's controlling 33 turnouts. I have 3 crossovers controlled by one toggle on the DS64.

I'm not sure at this point if I'll need any more. I probably will but it all depends on the track plan which is still in my pea brain.  :P

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 06:00:53 PM
I now have 7 of nine turnouts wired and under DCC control using the Digitrax DS64 stationary decoders.

I had a hard time programing the decoders this time around. I had to reset and redo them all at least three times each prior to them taking the commands. Murphy's Law - I'm really starting to hate that guy.

All the turnouts on the second level start with the number 201 and go through 228.

All turnouts on the third level will be in the 300 series.

I mark each decoder with the corresponding turnout numbers as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150219175351.jpeg)

Notice about two inches of a loop in the wires at the bottom of the decoders. This gives me a little safety net if I catch some wires while working under the layout. I just need to make sure I catch the snag prior to the two inches pulled 2.1 inches.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150219175406.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 06:05:15 PM
I located this turnout over a cross brace so the Tortoise couldn't be installed underneath. I'll hide it with a small structure.

I measured, cut and glued cork to the plywood for the support of the linkage.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181805.jpeg)

I measured and bent the throw bar wire. Prior to the final bend on the end, I slipped on the 3/32" brass tubing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181819.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 06:07:30 PM
I also needed to make a small adjustment in the height of the Tortoise so I added a piece of 1 ply cardboard. This worked perfectly.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181819.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181833.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 15, 2019, 06:10:51 PM
Linkage hooked to the throwbar and motor secured.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140219181847.jpeg)

And it works!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNddbXmAxh8
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 05:49:00 PM
Over the past few days I've been placing a few signal posts where they will be seen from the isle.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150219175334.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150219175421.jpeg)

Prior to wiring the signals I removed them and retested all 18.

One signal was totally out. I then started to replace both the red and green LEDs.

I noticed when I replaced one red LED it was much brighter than the green above it. I then decided to test another signal by replacing a green LED and that turned out to be brighter than the red.

Yes, I do understand using resistors of differing values will change the brightness of the LEDs. So please, no electrical lessons on that subject. All LEDs were tested with the same 470 ohm resistors that came in the pack.

I may be wrong but I think the red and green LEDs from 35 years ago aren't as good as the newer ones. Both the old and new are Miniatronics items.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 05:53:39 PM
Here is a quick photo essay with a little narrative to show how I replaced the red and green LEDs in the signal.

I first removed the old LEDs and wiring.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173532.jpeg)

I then fed new red and green wires through the 3/32" brass signal mast.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173602.jpeg)



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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 05:56:02 PM
I then tinned both the red and green wires on one end.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173633.jpeg)

I trimmed the ends and then pulled them down so they were just out of the opening.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173713.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 05:59:38 PM
I used the red and green 1.5 mm LEDs from Miniatronics. These fit into the holes in the rear of the signal face.

I first tinned both legs of the LEDs and then bent them as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173618.jpeg)

I then placed them over the brass mast as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173726.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 06:04:51 PM
Here is how they look when pushed into the back of the signal face.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173745.jpeg)

The LED legs were trimmed and soldered to the mast. Don't worry how it looks, touch up Floquil Old Silver will cover the new solder.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173802.jpeg)

Noticed I slipped with the solder tip and melted part of the side of the face. Very prototypical of my don't ya think?

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 06:08:38 PM
I then cut a portion of the other LED legs. I trimmed them about half way between the back of the LED and the mast as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173821.jpeg)

The wires were then slowly pulled down until the tinned ends were in line with the short legs and were then soldered.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 18, 2019, 06:09:40 PM
Finished and lit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173836.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180219173850.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 18, 2019, 08:05:11 PM
Nice job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 18, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
Hey Tom:

The signals look great.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 19, 2019, 03:21:38 PM
Tom


The signals look great -  thank you for taking the time to post the tutorial.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 19, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
So is there a common wire to the mast for the other leg of the LED's - haven't done much with LED's

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 19, 2019, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 18, 2019, 08:05:11 PM
Nice job Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciate you following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 19, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 18, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
Hey Tom:

The signals look great.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, appreciate you looking in on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 19, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 19, 2019, 03:21:38 PM
Tom


The signals look great -  thank you for taking the time to post the tutorial.


John,

Thank you my friend. The tutorial was very short and limited on narrative but the main idea is covered.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 19, 2019, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on February 19, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
So is there a common wire to the mast for the other leg of the LED's - haven't done much with LED's

Doug


Doug,

Thank you for stopping by. Yes, I'm using the brass pole as the common.

Here is a crude drawing of how the signals are wired. Really simple to do.

In the diagram, the red and green wires are shown coming from the signal face. They actually are fed through the brass pole and exit the bottom. One side(legs) of the LEDs are soldered to the brass pole(common). The other two LED legs are soldered to the red and green wires, red to red and green to green.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190219170904.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 19, 2019, 05:19:54 PM
I spent the last two days rewiring the two track signal bridge.

I was only going to fix the one signal face that didn't work. However, I got into the repair and ended up replacing all 8 of the LEDs, 4 red and 4 green plus all the wiring.

The signal bridge itself and the target faces were also repainted.

I think the 16 hour repair was definitely worth the time and effort.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190219164619.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 19, 2019, 05:57:21 PM
Thanks Tom - I'm slowly moving to this stage - I'm modeling the Nickel Plate through northern Indiana which means a lot of single track mains with long passing tracks so the signaling will be a major visual point (you can only do so much with modeling a corn field). I have a number of the ancient NJ International signals that I will be converting to LED. This is a big help - thanks again.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2019, 02:00:10 PM
Doug,

You are very welcome. If you have any questions or get stuck please feel free to call or email me.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2019, 02:01:24 PM
Two more signals installed and wired.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200219135826.jpeg)

I'm taking the rest of the day off.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2019, 05:33:52 PM
Work continues on the layout. Not much to show of wiring and track laying.

After leaving Three Fingered Freddy's Fireworks, I spotted an ACL pacific through the pine trees.The firebox was really glowing as it coasted into the station at Piney Woods.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230219141446.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2019, 05:50:31 PM
Late afternoon at the Piney Woods station finds the Champion dropping off one passenger. Typical of A&S RR engineers, always blocking the road no matter what.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230219141459.jpeg)


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 23, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
That's a great shot of the Pacific with the glowing firebox.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on February 23, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
Terrific pictures Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on February 23, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
Looking good My Friend, looking good.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on February 24, 2019, 02:17:14 AM
Those track-level pics are really great!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on February 24, 2019, 04:17:36 AM
Very nice modelling Tom. :) Mike
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on February 24, 2019, 07:22:48 AM
Nice work, Tom.  Brings back memories from my 1957 visit to see my grandparents in the Ocala area.  Their must be some scratch in that family in the woods to have a concrete driveway pad. As you depict in the station shot, county roads were unimproved.

I can hear the crickets and birds.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 23, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
That's a great shot of the Pacific with the glowing firebox.


Curt,

Thank You.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: sdrees on February 23, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
Terrific pictures Tom!


Steve,

Thanks very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on February 23, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
Looking good My Friend, looking good.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you my friend, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:36:28 PM
Quote from: cuse on February 24, 2019, 02:17:14 AM
Those track-level pics are really great!


John,

Thank you, appreciate you looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: madharry on February 24, 2019, 04:17:36 AM
Very nice modelling Tom. :) Mike


Mike,

Appreciate the compliment, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on February 24, 2019, 07:22:48 AM
Nice work, Tom.  Brings back memories from my 1957 visit to see my grandparents in the Ocala area.  Their must be some scratch in that family in the woods to have a concrete driveway pad. As you depict in the station shot, county roads were unimproved.

I can hear the crickets and birds.


Larry,

I spent many camping trips in the Ocala National Forest. Actually, the concrete pad is for the Three Corners Country Store.

Tom  ;D

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517123202.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Today, I built a two target block signal. It took about 5 hours and is finished except for painting.

This is a kit bash signal using parts from Oregon Rail Supply, 3/32 OD(outside diameter) brass tubing from K&S Metals and LEDs from Miniatronics.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152656.jpeg)

I tested all LEDs prior to starting.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152716.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
I marked the center on top of the signal box and drilled a 3/32" hole in the top and through the bottom.

I forgot to mention the brass signal box is from NJ International.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152733.jpeg)

I then cut a 5" piece of the brass tubing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152748.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:55:26 PM
Once I determine the height of the signal the brass tubing will be soldered to the signal box.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152806.jpeg)

I then marked on the brass tubing where I wanted the targets to be located.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152823.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 03:57:56 PM

I used the Dremel tool to grind two openings for the wire.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152836.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152852.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:01:54 PM
One leg of each LED was cut and wires soldered to the cut leg side. I'm only showing one here as the other three were wired after this photo was taken.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219152942.jpeg)

Once all wires were soldered, the four LEDs were glued into the back of the targets.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153000.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:04:47 PM
Starting at the top, I fed the wires down the inside length of the brass tube.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153040.jpeg)

I then fed the wires for the bottom signal into the lower hole.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153018.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
I used super glue to secure the targets to the two target braces.

I forgot to mention that the brass tube was tinned with solder prior to feeding the wires through the brass tube.

When the braces were glued to the targets and dry, the long leg of each LED was then soldered to the tinned side of the pole.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153134.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153150.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:12:41 PM
I then soldered the brass tube to the top of the box.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153239.jpeg)

More in a few, taking a tea break.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
I added the finial to the top and also added a ladder and two small platforms.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153253.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153320.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:18:42 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153307.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 26, 2019, 04:20:08 PM
Here is how it looks on the layout.

It is now painted and will be installed tomorrow morning.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153333.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260219153347.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 26, 2019, 04:32:59 PM
Very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 27, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
Nice job Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 27, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
I hope all those lights are green when I'm zipping down the mainline..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on February 27, 2019, 12:10:21 PM
Bet you're glad not to be modeling the B&O. All those additional aspect lights would have been over the top.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 26, 2019, 04:32:59 PM
Very nice Tom.


Curt,

Thanks my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on February 27, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
Nice job Tom


Doug,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 27, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
I hope all those lights are green when I'm zipping down the mainline..... ;D


Greg,

Not to worry, we'll be watching.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on February 27, 2019, 12:10:21 PM
Bet you're glad not to be modeling the B&O. All those additional aspect lights would have been over the top.


Chip,

Yes indeed. I have a friend with those on his Pennsy layout and one signal has about 50 wires. If the A&S had those signals this layout would have none. 8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:36:44 PM
The signal is finished and wired in place.

Upper target green is for the mainline. Diverging route is red.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270219141016.jpeg)

Lower green for diverging route and upper red for mainline stop.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270219141034.jpeg)

Continued-



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 27, 2019, 02:37:35 PM
Side view of kit bashed signal.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270219141048.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2019, 06:02:31 PM
I had a quick update but the forum won't load any new pictures. Here is one I loaded a few months ago.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270219141101.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:13:59 PM
Well, I'm way behind on the updates to the thread.  Honestly, the loss of two long time family pets and two dental root canals has dampened my desires of late.

I appreciate all the emails and PM asking if all was going well. All is now well as a matter of fact but still in shock of losing the two Chihuahuas in 39 days.

A partial update to follow.

Tom :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on March 14, 2019, 07:17:17 PM
Take your time my friend , no matter how much we love your posts , we would love even more that you feel better.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on March 14, 2019, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on March 14, 2019, 07:17:17 PM
Take your time my friend , no matter how much we love your posts , we would love even more that you feel better.

What Jan said.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:29:31 PM
China is holding Walthers up on many of their track items. I was going to use the Walthers 30 degree crossing on the layout but have no clue as to when it will be made.

I've decided to build the 30 degree crossing using the Fast Tracks jig. Also, I noticed a very slight difference in the scale of the two 30 degree printouts.

On very close inspection, I discovered the Walthers print out is about a half thickness of code 83 rail thinner/off the regular code 83 Micro Engineering rail.

The Fast Tracks Template jig is spot on. When I placed the Walthers template over the fast tracks one, the angles of the opposing crossing didn't match. Thanks Greg for sending me the fast tracks template.

Below are the two printed templates. Walthers is on the bottom in the photo below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140319190804.jpeg)

Since I made the cork 30 degree crossing based on Walthers template, I'll cut it out and start over when and once I get the fast tracks crossing finished.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140319190819.jpeg)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on March 14, 2019, 07:17:17 PM
Take your time my friend , no matter how much we love your posts , we would love even more that you feel better.


Jan,

Thank you so very much. I deeply appreciate all the great people on the forum.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on March 14, 2019, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on March 14, 2019, 07:17:17 PM
Take your time my friend , no matter how much we love your posts , we would love even more that you feel better.

What Jan said.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you SBG Jim, what I said above to Jan applies to you here as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:38:25 PM
Track laying continues on the A&S RR.  On the southeast corner of the third level is where the large diesel facility will be located. On the old layout I was using a smaller version from Walthers.

This is the old diesel facility as shown on the old layout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030518164210.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030518164050.jpeg)

Over the past few years, this one has been moved around so many times it got broken in a few places. I removed the roof vents, repair platforms and trashed the rest.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 14, 2019, 07:44:55 PM
For the new diesel facility, I'll be using Walthers, Railroad Shop structure. Also, Walthers Heavy Duty Overhead Crane will fit inside. This will be a great detail once I get it all together.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140319190835.jpeg)

Additional update tomorrow evening.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on March 14, 2019, 09:11:23 PM
Tom


Good to see you working on the layout and posting again.


The new area is really coming along. Love it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 15, 2019, 08:27:55 AM
Glad you're back out in the shed Tom..... :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 08:56:49 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 14, 2019, 09:11:23 PM
Tom


Good to see you working on the layout and posting again.


The new area is really coming along. Love it.


John,

Thank you, good to be back doing something.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 15, 2019, 08:27:55 AM
Glad you're back out in the shed Tom..... :) :) :)


Thanks Greg, so is Pam!  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on March 15, 2019, 10:32:36 AM
Good to see you back in the fray Tom

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: NKP768 on March 15, 2019, 10:32:36 AM
Good to see you back in the fray Tom

Doug


Doug,

Thank you, appreciate the support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:12:23 PM
The only thing I liked about using Homosote over plywood was the fact I could counter sink the large Kadee (#308) uncoupling magnet into the Homosote.

You could ballast over the magnet, mark it with a post or barrel and uncouple all you wanted.

The smaller ones fit over the ties and between the rails and doesn't look that great.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319152929.jpeg)

I came up with an idea to get the larger uncoupling magnet under the track using HO scale cork roadbed.

In the photo below you can see the magnet between the two sections of cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319152945.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
The magnet is a little higher than the cork. When my Code 83 ME track is placed over the magnet, it doesn't fit flush.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319153001.jpeg)

I removed the ties over the magnet and this allowed the track to sit flush or just above the magnet. Perfect!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319153030.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:20:23 PM
I cut an edge off a scrap piece of cork and glued it to the side of the magnet. Ballast will cover the sides.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319153046.jpeg)

This test magnet area is on an industrial siding on the third level as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150319153106.jpeg)

Video to follow -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:22:59 PM

Uncoupling test -

https://youtu.be/_YAJXi-awMw
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 15, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:22:59 PM

Uncoupling test -

https://youtu.be/_YAJXi-awMw (https://youtu.be/_YAJXi-awMw)


Played just fine..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on March 15, 2019, 10:24:47 PM
Works just like it should.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on March 15, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
The YouTube was neat. It's fun watching your progress, it's a great blue print for how to construct a layout. Glad to see you back.

I've kind of hit a wall on my own slow efforts. Hopefully reading about your adventures (along with the Judges recounting the fabled history of the A & S) will get me going again.

Jim D

PS the Boss says hi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 16, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
Looks good Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on March 17, 2019, 07:06:46 AM
Really great idea Tom! The video was neat being able to watch your ideas in action.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 15, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 15, 2019, 04:22:59 PM

Uncoupling test -

https://youtu.be/_YAJXi-awMw (https://youtu.be/_YAJXi-awMw)


Played just fine..... 8)


Greg,

Thanks for checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on March 15, 2019, 10:24:47 PM
Works just like it should.

Jim


Jim,

It better work, thanks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on March 15, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
The YouTube was neat. It's fun watching your progress, it's a great blue print for how to construct a layout. Glad to see you back.

I've kind of hit a wall on my own slow efforts. Hopefully reading about your adventures (along with the Judges recounting the fabled history of the A & S) will get me going again.

Jim D

PS the Boss says hi.


Jim D,

First, tell the boss hello!

The past two months have really tested my resolve to keep going on the layout. It is still fun but to much bad 1:1 stuff lately.

I've got many more posts to finish to get updated on the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 16, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
Looks good Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 05:53:33 PM
Quote from: MAP on March 17, 2019, 07:06:46 AM
Really great idea Tom! The video was neat being able to watch your ideas in action.


Mark,

I appreciate you following along on the layout thread, thank you. At times I get stuck but then I also get a burst of energy and get much more done than I expect of myself.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
I've been plugging away on the third level track laying. I'm about 23 feet short of completing the third level mainline. I've been installing mainline turnouts for future use such as some industries, a diesel facility and runaround track.

I'll show some progress photos in the next few days. Now all I can show is a stack of cork and track.

I've set aside 16 feet for a six track yard on the East side of the third level. This will also include a caboose track, set out for some yard switchers, icing platform and car repair shop and maybe a trackside tavern for the workers.

Thanks to all following along on this adventure.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on March 19, 2019, 06:41:18 PM
Hang in there Tom - I think some times we can use the hobby to smooth the bumps in the 1:1 road. I went through a funk a couple of years ago when I lost both parents and an in law in a 18 month period. Granted its not a cure-all but it does does cause you to re-focus. Enough psycho-babble - good luck and just know that you bring inspiration to us lurkers.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 07:07:33 PM
Doug,

Thanks very much, the track laying and planning has really been great therapy.

I would have been more productive today but it isn't wise to use the table saw in the rain.  :P :P


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on March 19, 2019, 07:56:56 PM
Trackwork makes me -want- therapy :-)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 19, 2019, 07:56:56 PM
Trackwork makes me -want- therapy :-)


dave




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 20, 2019, 12:10:16 PM
Hey Tom:

RR is looking just great as usual. keep the pic flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on March 20, 2019, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 07:07:33 PM
Doug,
Thanks very much, the track laying and planning has really been great therapy.
I would have been more productive today but it isn't wise to use the table saw in the rain.  :P :P

Tom   ;D

Then move the saw indoors!
Jeeesh!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 21, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 20, 2019, 12:10:16 PM
Hey Tom:

RR is looking just great as usual. keep the pic flowing.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks my friend, very much appreciate you checking in. I a little behind in the picture department but they are coming.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 21, 2019, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on March 20, 2019, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 19, 2019, 07:07:33 PM
Doug,
Thanks very much, the track laying and planning has really been great therapy.
I would have been more productive today but it isn't wise to use the table saw in the rain.  :P :P

Tom   ;D

Then move the saw indoors!
Jeeesh!


Chip,

Yepper, only problem with that is I have no control over the fine sawdust. I'm sure you don't need to ask why have all this excellent knowledge.  8)


Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 21, 2019, 05:43:34 PM
Progress has been slow and steady on the third level track work. All the mainline cork is now glued in place as mentioned in a previous post.

Yesterday I added the lift out bridge over the "Great Divide". I built it in the same way as I did the staging and second level liftouts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173303.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173322.jpeg)

Back in a few, going to grab a Diet Pepsi. Yes, I fell off the wagon when I lost my two Chihuahua babies and lived through the double root canal. When this batch is gone, I'll confess my sin and start over.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 21, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
The third level liftout is 38" in length and from floor to rail head is 57 3/4". I used a piece of 1X3 ash for the span.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173340.jpeg)

Yes, it is level!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173354.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 21, 2019, 05:50:58 PM
SAL GP #1803 with 16 cars and a caboose made the trip over the Great Divide with no problems.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173410.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210319173449.jpeg)

Now it's time to finish the track work and drop the feeders to the buss line.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on March 21, 2019, 06:02:58 PM
Tom - I liked your recent photos because it provided an long range view of your layout. Thanks. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 21, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
Looks awesome Tom, but it's a long distance to the floor!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on March 21, 2019, 07:36:18 PM
Looking great my friend!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on March 21, 2019, 10:46:07 PM
Thank god it was only diet Pepsi and not Scotch! Who knows what the layout would look like then.  Right now it is look terrific.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on March 22, 2019, 07:50:30 AM
Wow...moving fast on the third level...How about some guardrails? that "Great Divide" is kind of scaring me


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 22, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Mainline loop in place.....how about starting the A&S 500 - steam vs. diesel around the oval.....we could charge admission, get sponsors (call Slim and Groovy).....this could be bigger than Daytona..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:25:40 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on March 21, 2019, 06:02:58 PM
Tom - I liked your recent photos because it provided an long range view of your layout. Thanks. Jim


Jim,

Thank you, I'll put some others up to show the third level mainline.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 21, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
Looks awesome Tom, but it's a long distance to the floor!


Curt,

Thank you and yes, it is a long way to the floor. There is a speed limit over the Great Divide.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 21, 2019, 07:36:18 PM
Looking great my friend!


John,



Thank you my friend, very much appreciate the support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:30:16 PM
Quote from: sdrees on March 21, 2019, 10:46:07 PM
Thank god it was only diet Pepsi and not Scotch! Who knows what the layout would look like then.  Right now it is look terrific.


Steve,

Yes, I agree. Falling of the wagon with DP is certainly better than Scotch. Thank you for the compliment on the layout. Getting the third level mainline finished is a great feeling.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: cuse on March 22, 2019, 07:50:30 AM
Wow...moving fast on the third level...How about some guardrails? that "Great Divide" is kind of scaring me


John


John,

You know me, not much grass grows under my modeling feet. I do plan on adding some side panels or girders to the third level bridge.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 22, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Mainline loop in place.....how about starting the A&S 500 - steam vs. diesel around the oval.....we could charge admission, get sponsors (call Slim and Groovy).....this could be bigger than Daytona..... ;D


Greg,

Careful my friend, I may have to suspend your throttle privileges.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 22, 2019, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 22, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 22, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Mainline loop in place.....how about starting the A&S 500 - steam vs. diesel around the oval.....we could charge admission, get sponsors (call Slim and Groovy).....this could be bigger than Daytona..... ;D


Greg,

Careful my friend, I may have to suspend your throttle privileges.  8)


Tom  ;D


Awwwww come on, don't be an old poop.....if we made enough off the sponsors, we could build a real big layout with multi-track mainline for proper race conditions and generate more revenue.....just a thought.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on March 22, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Watching trains race up and down the helix would probably make me dizzy...


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 23, 2019, 02:04:07 PM
Hey Tom:

It must be really nice to have a RR room that big. Layout is looking just beautiful.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on March 24, 2019, 11:01:46 AM
Uncle Tommie,
Amazing work as always.  The new "Skybridge" looks great!  One thing you might want to consider is adding some clear plastic sidebars to the bridge so if train derail on that section at least they wouldn't fall all the way to the floor.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 22, 2019, 02:10:59 PM



Awwwww come on, don't be an old poop.....if we made enough off the sponsors, we could build a real big layout with multi-track mainline for proper race conditions and generate more revenue.....just a thought.  ::)


Greg,

Well, yes, I guess I am!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 22, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Watching trains race up and down the helix would probably make me dizzy...


dave


Dave,

When the Judge and I use the Ovalix, no problem. Watching Greg's trains on the Ovalix, well, that is an issue all it's own.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 23, 2019, 02:04:07 PM
Hey Tom:

It must be really nice to have a RR room that big. Layout is looking just beautiful.

Karl


Karl,

Yes, I'm very blessed to have this much room. Although in my youth, I wanted twice the space. Now that I'm an official in good standing of the "Geezer Club", this is sometimes a bit to much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on March 24, 2019, 11:01:46 AM
Uncle Tommie,
Amazing work as always.  The new "Skybridge" looks great!  One thing you might want to consider is adding some clear plastic sidebars to the bridge so if train derail on that section at least they wouldn't fall all the way to the floor.

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you kind sir. The sky bridge and the second level bridges will have a stip of Masonite added to the sides.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:55:31 PM
I haven't been active in posting nor have I been very active in working on the layout lately either.

After finishing the track work on the third level I kept getting a short when the train crossed the "Great Divide". I spent several days attempting to find the short with no success.

I decided to just walk away for some down time.

I believe my problem is connected to the second level. I tapped into the second level buss line and daisy chained it to the third level buss line. The third level is wired exactly as the second level, yet the short still happens.

I've decided to cut the two and have the third level on it's own power district. I'll be using the Digitrax DB200+ booster for the third level. I have one on the second level and I've not experienced any issues.

I'll be making the change sometime next week.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 04, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
I hope the change fixes the short.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on April 05, 2019, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 22, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Watching trains race up and down the helix would probably make me dizzy...


dave


Dave,

When the Judge and I use the Ovalix, no problem. Watching Greg's trains on the Ovalix, well, that is an issue all it's own.  8)


Tom  ;D


Aw.....fast freight and crack passenger trains are expected to travel at a certain speed.....after all, a railroad doesn't want to deliver spoiled food or carry cranky passengers!  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 06, 2019, 07:54:24 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:55:31 PM
I haven't been active in posting nor have I been very active in working on the layout lately either.

After finishing the track work on the third level I kept getting a short when the train crossed the "Great Divide". I spent several days attempting to find the short with no success.

I decided to just walk away for some down time.

I believe my problem is connected to the second level. I tapped into the second level buss line and daisy chained it to the third level buss line. The third level is wired exactly as the second level, yet the short still happens.

I've decided to cut the two and have the third level on it's own power district. I'll be using the Digitrax DB200+ booster for the third level. I have one on the second level and I've not experienced any issues.

I'll be making the change sometime next week.


We all hit snags, usually there electrical, I also find that getting away from it for a few days helps.  I usually come back and fix it in a couple hours after spending days spinning my wheels.  Keep up the great modeling.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on April 06, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Cousin Tommie,
For what its worth my friend Bob Parrish taught me to have the command center turned on while I lay track.  At first, I thought that was a bit strange.  However, if I accidentally create a reversing loop, it will notify me right away with it's short buzzer.  Maybe some of the new trackage on the third level did this.  Another thought is you might have a new switch on the third level which is shorting the railroad out. 

BTW, taking a break is always a good idea.

The Diet Pepsi swilling kid

;D ;D :P

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 06, 2019, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 06, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Cousin Tommie,
For what its worth my friend Bob Parrish taught me to have the command center turned on while I lay track.  At first, I thought that was a bit strange.  However, if I accidentally create a reversing loop, it will notify me right away with it's short buzzer.  Maybe some of the new trackage on the third level did this.  Another thought is you might have a new switch on the third level which is shorting the railroad out. 

BTW, taking a break is always a good idea.

The Diet Pepsi swilling kid

;D ;D :P



Bruces suggestion reminded me that I always connect a continuity detector  to the track when I'm working on it. My  Dad made it from a door bell probably 60 or 70 years ago. If I get my wires crossed it rings a bell. I always get a kick out of using my Dad's tools (many of them he made himself) when I'm working on the layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 04, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
I hope the change fixes the short.


Curt,

I'm sure it will. Having the third level on its own power district should have been a no brainer for me but I'm a slow learner.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 05, 2019, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 22, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Watching trains race up and down the helix would probably make me dizzy...


dave


Dave,

When the Judge and I use the Ovalix, no problem. Watching Greg's trains on the Ovalix, well, that is an issue all it's own.  8)


Tom  ;D


Aw.....fast freight and crack passenger trains are expected to travel at a certain speed.....after all, a railroad doesn't want to deliver spoiled food or carry cranky passengers!  ;)


Greg,

You are a great sport for all our fun. I just want to remind you that I'm relentless in my pursuit of slow trains. :P :P


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 06, 2019, 07:54:24 AM



We all hit snags, usually there electrical, I also find that getting away from it for a few days helps.  I usually come back and fix it in a couple hours after spending days spinning my wheels.  Keep up the great modeling.


John,

Yep, it does happen now and then. I'm currently on a long layout break.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 06, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Cousin Tommie,
For what its worth my friend Bob Parrish taught me to have the command center turned on while I lay track.  At first, I thought that was a bit strange.  However, if I accidentally create a reversing loop, it will notify me right away with it's short buzzer.  Maybe some of the new trackage on the third level did this.  Another thought is you might have a new switch on the third level which is shorting the railroad out. 

BTW, taking a break is always a good idea.

The Diet Pepsi swilling kid

;D ;D :P


Bruce,

I've never turned the DCC system on while working on the track or installing Tortoise machines. However, once a feeder is installed or a Tortoise is wired, I'll then turn it on and listen for a short.

Now, I'm going to have a few swigs of Diet Pepsi.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 06, 2019, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 06, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Cousin Tommie,
For what its worth my friend Bob Parrish taught me to have the command center turned on while I lay track.  At first, I thought that was a bit strange.  However, if I accidentally create a reversing loop, it will notify me right away with it's short buzzer.  Maybe some of the new trackage on the third level did this.  Another thought is you might have a new switch on the third level which is shorting the railroad out. 

BTW, taking a break is always a good idea.

The Diet Pepsi swilling kid

;D ;D :P



Bruces suggestion reminded me that I always connect a continuity detector  to the track when I'm working on it. My  Dad made it from a door bell probably 60 or 70 years ago. If I get my wires crossed it rings a bell. I always get a kick out of using my Dad's tools (many of them he made himself) when I'm working on the layout.


John,

Sounds like a great little gadget. I use the buzzer on the PSX  unit for basically the same thing but not while working on the track. If I've wired it wrong the buzzer won't go off until the system is on.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:36:42 AM
My update for now is that I have no update. I haven't worked on the layout since March 21. I plan to get back to it later this month.

Well, I guess this qualifies as an update.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on April 11, 2019, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:36:42 AM
My update for now is that I have no update. I haven't worked on the layout since March 21. I plan to get back to it later this month.

Understandable. You've been going full tilt for several months.  Between the trip on 95 and going back to Diet Pepsi, maybe you're out of synch?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on April 11, 2019, 06:47:32 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 05, 2019, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 04, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 22, 2019, 03:39:35 PM
Watching trains race up and down the helix would probably make me dizzy...


dave


Dave,

When the Judge and I use the Ovalix, no problem. Watching Greg's trains on the Ovalix, well, that is an issue all it's own.  8)


Tom  ;D


Aw.....fast freight and crack passenger trains are expected to travel at a certain speed.....after all, a railroad doesn't want to deliver spoiled food or carry cranky passengers!  ;)


Greg,

You are a great sport for all our fun. I just want to remind you that I'm relentless in my pursuit of slow trains. :P :P


Tom  ;D


You may be relentless.....a few other adjectives do come to mind....., but I'm stubborn as heck in my pursuit for speedy delivery of passengers and time sensitive freight, besides, I do follow the speed limits in Tahope.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on April 11, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
Hi Tom,
It was good to talk to you the other day.  I did some thinking about your electrical problem and I think this is being caused by having the two decks connected were each deck has a reversing loop.  That could create a case were the two decks to have a different polarity thus causing the problem.  I think if only one of the decks had a reversing section then this would have worked just fine.  Your idea of separating these into two zones should fix the issue.

Powered by Diet Pesi.
;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on April 11, 2019, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 11, 2019, 11:36:42 AM
My update for now is that I have no update. I haven't worked on the layout since March 21. I plan to get back to it later this month.

Understandable. You've been going full tilt for several months.  Between the trip on 95 and going back to Diet Pepsi, maybe you're out of synch?


Larry,

Sorry for the late response. I haven't looked at this thread in some time now. Yes, I was going full steam ahead for quite a while.

Thanks for the comment and checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 11, 2019, 06:47:32 PM




You may be relentless.....a few other adjectives do come to mind....., but I'm stubborn as heck in my pursuit for speedy delivery of passengers and time sensitive freight, besides, I do follow the speed limits in Tahope.  ;D ;D ;D


So you say.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 11, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
Hi Tom,
It was good to talk to you the other day.  I did some thinking about your electrical problem and I think this is being caused by having the two decks connected were each deck has a reversing loop.  That could create a case were the two decks to have a different polarity thus causing the problem.  I think if only one of the decks had a reversing section then this would have worked just fine.  Your idea of separating these into two zones should fix the issue.

Powered by Diet Pesi.
;D ;D 8)


Cousin Brucie,

I thoroughly enjoyed our phone conversation three weeks ago. I'm back on the wiring problem now and I'm sure the isolation of the two levels is the key to solving the issue.

I appreciate your comments and for checking in.

BTW, I'm back on the Diet Pepsi but only one per day.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:33:34 PM
Several weeks ago I was explaining the short between the power districts, actually between two levels.

Mike Carter, Madharry, sent me the following link to an article in MRR concerning this very issue. Very informative article and discussion on the subject. I read it twice.

Although this particular article was slightly different from my problem, I did gain some very valuable information from it.


http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/t/148370.aspx
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:49:26 PM
I spent most of today, unwiring all the feeders on the third level buss lines. I also cut a gap on the ninth turn of the Ovalix and near the top/third level. This gap effectively separated the second and third level wiring.

As mentioned, the third level will be on it's own power district using a Digitrax DB220 booster. I programmed the DB220 this afternoon.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240419184118.jpeg)

Tomorrow I plan to start rewiring the third level.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 24, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
Good to see you back at it Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 06:59:40 PM




In other news, I ordered the Fast Tracks 30 degree track crossing jig. It should be here any day. I look forward to making the crossing so I know I'll have zero derailments in this area.

I'll be building this crossing and posting the progress on the A&S RR thread.


The month I took off has really been beneficial in my desire to continue working on the layout. Not that I was going to completely stop but I found myself just not "giving a damn". I reached somewhat of a major burnout.


I began removing the old layout on December 13, 2013.


Three thread parts later, I was looking at 450 pages and over 4500 pictures. Yes, It was almost a full time job just doing the thread and adding the pictures in addition to the work on the layout.


Now, my mind set is to pace myself and continue on! Appreciate all the PMs, emails and phone calls. I'm not out of step, but the rest of the band is.
;D ;D ;D


Tom   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 24, 2019, 07:02:02 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 24, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
Good to see you back at it Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend. I'm ready for the next 500 pages.  :P


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 24, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
Tom


Great to see you back at it! We all need a break once in a while, no matter how much we enjoy the hobby.  When I start feeling burned out on working on the layout I take a trip or go fishing. I always come back ready to get back at it. I'm looking forward to following your progress on your wonderful layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on April 25, 2019, 06:21:49 AM
Tom,
Glad to hear you're back at it with renewed fire...I do the same thing (although much more frequently and not always by choice). Looking forward to a tidal wave of progress -always inspired by your pace and exacting work.


john
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on April 25, 2019, 06:44:38 AM
Hey Tom!  Great to see you back in the saddle and ready to continue the build of the A&S!  Looking forward to your posting again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 24, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
Tom


Great to see you back at it! We all need a break once in a while, no matter how much we enjoy the hobby.  When I start feeling burned out on working on the layout I take a trip or go fishing. I always come back ready to get back at it. I'm looking forward to following your progress on your wonderful layout.


John,

Thanks for stopping by with the encouraging support. I did get burned out and now feel excited to get going again.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 02:30:46 PM
Quote from: cuse on April 25, 2019, 06:21:49 AM
Tom,
Glad to hear you're back at it with renewed fire...I do the same thing (although much more frequently and not always by choice). Looking forward to a tidal wave of progress -always inspired by your pace and exacting work.


john


John,

Thanks, much appreciate the support. I do feel renewed and have been going at it again full time the past few days.

The wave is coming.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 02:31:55 PM
Quote from: MAP on April 25, 2019, 06:44:38 AM
Hey Tom!  Great to see you back in the saddle and ready to continue the build of the A&S!  Looking forward to your posting again.


Mark,

Appreciate the support and it does feel good to be moving once again at a steady pace.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on April 26, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
Tom,
Glad to see you back.......looks like more fodder for the Saturday report.

Sure hope you have "Greg Speed Guards" on the upper level curves (just saying).

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on April 26, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
Tom,
Glad to see you back.......looks like more fodder for the Saturday report.

Sure hope you have "Greg Speed Guards" on the upper level curves (just saying).

Jim


Jim,

Good to be back my friend. GSG guards are on the list of "things to do".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
FINALLY SOME SUCCESS.

The separation of the levels was a success. The new DB220 Digitrax booster was programmed and installed.

The feeder wires were all reattached to the third level bus line. The reverse loop wiring was completed and performs perfectly as well.

The new DB220 Digitrax booster (photo below) is on the far right. The black power source is a MRC 50 amp power supply and controls the power to the lower level 43 Tortoise turnouts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260419160010.jpeg)

In the bottom photo, the three PSX Power Districts, levels 1-3, are on the top and the three PSX-ARs, levels 1-3 are on the bottom.

It sure feels good to have it all working properly again.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260419160530.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 26, 2019, 05:00:37 PM
Impressive work Tom. I'm glad you can figure all that out because I probably couldn't. Glad you're short problem is fixed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Rollin on April 26, 2019, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
FINALLY SOME SUCCESS.

The separation of the levels was a success. The new DB220 Digitrax booster was programmed and installed.


Just in time for a Saturday session!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on April 26, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
Trying to figure out wiring is a real pain in the ass.  Happy to see you got it figured out.  Oh, and you do a real near wiring job.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on April 27, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Glad to see you back at it Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: coors2u on April 27, 2019, 02:34:57 PM
Scheww, Tom I for one am glad you decided to continue. I have kept up with this thread for day one. It is like a great novel and to think It would just go away with out some fantastic ending would be a disaster. I know I don't post as much as I used to but I am here in the shadows watching and waiting for the next updates. I know it is a ton of work to post all that you do. Thanks for all the time and effort that you do to share it with us. For me It keeps the dream of building a layout of my own someday.


Dustin
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2019, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 26, 2019, 05:00:37 PM
Impressive work Tom. I'm glad you can figure all that out because I probably couldn't. Glad you're short problem is fixed.


Curt,

Thank you and sorry you missed all the fun yesterday.

The short was fixed but I need to lengthen the one "Wye" leg so the long passenger trains can turn without the temp. short.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2019, 08:35:29 AM
Quote from: Rollin on April 26, 2019, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
FINALLY SOME SUCCESS.

The separation of the levels was a success. The new DB220 Digitrax booster was programmed and installed.


Just in time for a Saturday session!

Rollin,

Yes, it was and ran fine. You need to come on down one Saturday and meet some of the forum members.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2019, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: sdrees on April 26, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
Trying to figure out wiring is a real pain in the ass.  Happy to see you got it figured out.  Oh, and you do a real near wiring job.


Steve,

I fought the short for two weeks and then it dawned on me what the problem was. Very simple and yet I missed it.

Appreciate the compliment on the wiring job but I could have been a little neater.




Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2019, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 27, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Glad to see you back at it Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D ::)


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you my friend, appreciate the support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2019, 08:43:13 AM
Quote from: coors2u on April 27, 2019, 02:34:57 PM
Scheww, Tom I for one am glad you decided to continue. I have kept up with this thread for day one. It is like a great novel and to think It would just go away with out some fantastic ending would be a disaster. I know I don't post as much as I used to but I am here in the shadows watching and waiting for the next updates. I know it is a ton of work to post all that you do. Thanks for all the time and effort that you do to share it with us. For me It keeps the dream of building a layout of my own someday.


Dustin


Dustin,

Hey, very happy to see you drop in. It's been a long time. I appreciate the kind words of support and encouragement. I'm back with some renewed vigor in working on the layout.

I will continue to post the details of the build but do plan on dialing it back just a little.

I hope you and your family are doing well.

Again, thank you Dustin for stopping by and posting a comment to the A&S RR thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on April 28, 2019, 10:05:01 AM
Tom;

I appreciate all the time you put into posting your progress, I for one know there is no way I would have figured out how to fix your short issue. Glad to see you back at it, you are very good at explaining and teaching.

PS I also love the Saturday updates.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 29, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on April 28, 2019, 10:05:01 AM
Tom;

I appreciate all the time you put into posting your progress, I for one know there is no way I would have figured out how to fix your short issue. Glad to see you back at it, you are very good at explaining and teaching.

PS I also love the Saturday updates.

Jim D


Jim,

I appreciate the encouraging words of support. It does require much more time than just building the layout but sharing what I've been doing is another factor of fun by itself.

Bill does a great job with the Saturday Report and he very much enjoys doing it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 29, 2019, 04:00:57 PM
This past Saturday I told the Judge I wasn't going to mention or cover this next topic in the build thread. I decided to do so in hopes  it may help someone else with a similar problem.

The ACL Champion consists of an ABA E8 motive power, one REA reefer and eleven passenger cars. Lengthwise that equates to two inches shy of 14 feet.

When I fixed the short I place the PSX-AR on the short leg of the reversing wye. That reversing wye was only eight feet in length. No problem for freight trains. In fact, if the passenger cars weren't lighted with LEDs the eight feet would not be an issue. All eleven of the passenger cars are lit so the reversing wye needed to be lengthened.

That task was accomplished but I didn't take pictures as I went.

The next photo shows a #8 turnout up against the diesels. This is the location of the original turnout. The turnout was removed and to the right of the second A unit is where the old gap was for this end on the wye.

I extended the reversing wye another 8 feet to the left. The new 16 foot length of the reversing wye is now long enough to hold the entire 13' 10" train.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290419155250.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 29, 2019, 04:04:03 PM
The super glue bottle in the next photo is where the back gap is cut for the reversing wye.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290419155305.jpeg)

The following photo is the best I could get in the space to show the length of the ACL Champion. Two of the passenger cars are to the right and out of the photo.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290419155325.jpeg)

The lesson here is to have the reversing wye several inches longer than your longest lighted passenger train.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on April 29, 2019, 04:15:03 PM
Good fix Tom.....don't forget, if the Champion gets behind schedule and it needs to get to Tahope on time.....I'm available for a speedy passage.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 29, 2019, 06:36:51 PM
Greg,

You are our Champion for Speed. Or is the Speed Champion? Just saying.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 29, 2019, 07:08:42 PM
One thing I appreciate about your layout construction Tom is that if there is a issue you don't try to force the fix, you take some time, think about it, then fix it like it should be. By the way, that is a darn long train :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 29, 2019, 07:08:42 PM
One thing I appreciate about your layout construction Tom is that if there is a issue you don't try to force the fix, you take some time, think about it, then fix it like it should be. By the way, that is a darn long train :)


Curt,

Thanks for the compliment my friend. One thing I've learned through the years is to step back, asses what is wrong and then fix it later. In my younger years I pretty much did the opposite.

The train is long, in fact, to long for this layout. I'll have more on this in the following couple of posts.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2019, 06:30:22 PM
I spent several hours today working on the ACL Champion passenger train.

I removed all the trucks and the wheels from the trucks. I used an electronics cleaner to clean all journal boxes. I used a #11 blade to scrape off all the crud on the wheels. I used 70% Isopropyl Alcohol on a cotton Q-tip to clean the wheel surfaces and the axle points.

I got the cleaner from Radio Shack. Yes, we still have an independant store here in Orlando.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300419182040.jpeg)

I removed any McHenry couplers I found (2) and replaced them with the proper Kadee couplers. I then reset all the Kadee coupler gladhands to the proper height and angle.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2019, 06:36:47 PM
I then removed the roofs on each passenger car and replaced the old Walthers 12V lights with the new Walthers LED light bars.

The old Walthers light bars were nothing more than a light bar with four 1 amp diodes to make it a constant lighting unit.

The following photo shows the new LED light bar on top and the old light bar on the bottom. You can see the lights and LEDs - this is the underside or side facing the interior.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300419180941.jpeg)

Here is a look at the top side.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300419180927.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2019, 06:41:38 PM
The next photo shows the old light bar in a passenger car.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300419180954.jpeg)

Same car with a new LED light bar.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300419181008.jpeg)

The light bar is Walthers Number 920-1060. Several years ago the Judge and I ordered 80 of the new LED light bars to have on hand for such an occasion. We got them on sale for about 40% off.

Continued in a few.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 30, 2019, 07:11:31 PM
I've always believed in scale with railroad modeling. Our hobby paints are to scale as we don't use 1:1 house paint on our wood structures. I believe the DCC sound should be in scale as well. To loud a horn or exhaust and the sound doesn't fit the scale of the model its in.

I'll also throw in scale speed. A fast HO scale train becomes a toy and not a model when run a notch 20!

So to is the length of a train on a layout. The length of a train should be in scale with the size of the layout. Although I can pull a passenger train with 20 cars, it isn't to the scale of the layout.


On my old layout, a freight would typically consisted of a steam loco and 15 cars including the caboose. Now, on this layout, a good size freight consists of maybe two or three F units pulling 18 to 20 cars and a caboose. We've pulled 25-30 freight in the past but it just looks to long.

The ACL Champion is a great example. It has A-B-A E units for power, an REA reefer, baggage car and eleven passenger cars.

As Curt mentioned, "that is a long train". I agree and removed two cars from the consist. To me it now looks better suited to the size of the layout and looks better as well.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on May 01, 2019, 06:35:24 AM
That is one beautiful (long!!) consist you have there Tom.  I'm sure the removal of a couple of cars isn't going to affect the grandness of it moving through the towns on your layout.  I imagine that those LED light bars draw much less power from the layout and give off a much better interior lighting.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: MAP on May 01, 2019, 06:35:24 AM
That is one beautiful (long!!) consist you have there Tom.  I'm sure the removal of a couple of cars isn't going to affect the grandness of it moving through the towns on your layout.  I imagine that those LED light bars draw much less power from the layout and give off a much better interior lighting.


Mark,


Yepper, the train still looks good but the nine cars seems more natural for the size of my layout. The LED light bars do make a big difference and as you said draws less amps from the track.

Appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 06:46:41 PM
Today I started building the 30 degree crossing using the Fast Tracks crossing jig.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184028.jpeg)

Greg cut some of the copper/brass strips for me - thank you kind sir.

The jig is made so the soldering strips can only fit in the designated slots.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184041.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 06:49:33 PM
I used a Dremel and polished the strips so the solder will flow better. The one on the right is polished and the one on the left is dull.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184054.jpeg)

All the strips were polished and placed in the slots on the jig.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184112.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 06:52:15 PM
I started by bending and placing the two outside rails in the jig.

I used a small paint tip from Micro Mark to apply some solder paste to the soldering strips and the outside edge of the rail.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184131.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184147.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 07:01:21 PM
I'm using a Weller 300 Watt soldering iron the Judge bought me one Christmas.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519185637.jpeg)

I started soldering the outside rails to the strips and realized I was soldering them on the inside. I then soldered all the rest on the outside of the rails. The guard rails need to be soldered in place and to much solder will not allow them to be seated flush.

In the next photo you can see the two I soldered on the inside.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184203.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
I wanted to test and make sure the crossing was flat, it was.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184219.jpeg)

I placed it back in the jig and won't remove it until the crossing is complete.

This is as far as I got this afternoon. I should get it finished tomorrow.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010519184234.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 01, 2019, 09:02:26 PM
Tom


It's great to see you back at it - there are sure a lot of words of wisdom in the last few pages. There is enough tips for a couple 500  model railroading tips books in your layout build threads.  I really enjoyed your discussion of train length and layout size.  I've visited layouts where a train was in two or three towns at the same time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 01, 2019, 09:28:40 PM
This is very cool Tom, as I have never done anything like this.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on May 02, 2019, 07:25:13 AM
Pretty neat.  I enjoy hand laying track so I'm following along with great interest (and a desire to get back into laying some track).
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 02, 2019, 07:44:54 AM
A couple of questions.  Is the solder paste like a flux or a true paste that holds the rails in place while you solder?  Do you bend the rail in the jig itself? 


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 02, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
You're welcome.....glad to be of help.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 01, 2019, 09:02:26 PM
Tom


It's great to see you back at it - there are sure a lot of words of wisdom in the last few pages. There is enough tips for a couple 500  model railroading tips books in your layout build threads.  I really enjoyed your discussion of train length and layout size.  I've visited layouts where a train was in two or three towns at the same time.


John,

Thank you, it's good to be back modeling and working on the layout. I also appreciate you taking the time to post a few comments.

I really do believe train length should be proportionate to the size of the layout its running on. Nothing looks worse than a layout with one train in three cities in one length.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 01, 2019, 09:28:40 PM
This is very cool Tom, as I have never done anything like this.


Curt,

Thanks for stopping by. This is a fun project and will be rewarding when finished. You can borrow the jig and do one for the practice if you so desire. I'll supply the rail.  ;D ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 02, 2019, 07:25:13 AM
Pretty neat.  I enjoy hand laying track so I'm following along with great interest (and a desire to get back into laying some track).


Bob,

Thank you for stopping by. It does test one's soldering skills and is actually a neat project to do. Not sure I'd want to do an entire layout building the turnouts and all but this one is fun.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 02, 2019, 07:44:54 AM
A couple of questions.  Is the solder paste like a flux or a true paste that holds the rails in place while you solder?  Do you bend the rail in the jig itself? 


Jeff


Jeff,

Yes, it is a solder flux. I couldn't think of the word "flux" last night so I used "paste". Sorry for the confusion.

I use the jig to check my bends. Basically I've been bending by hand and test fitting as I go. I'll use the jig to get it close and then place the rail in the jig for the final fit.

Thank for the questions and for checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 08:05:43 PM
Here's a progress photo from this morning.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519133924.jpeg)

This afternoon I finished the crossing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519133941.jpeg)

It wasn't as hard as I imagined so building a turnout should be a walk in the park.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 08:06:46 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519133956.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134014.jpeg)


Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Included with the jig are two pieces of Quick Sticks. These are laser cut wood ties and the completed crossing fits over the Quick Sticks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134043.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134028.jpeg)

Once the crossing is glued to the wood ties the excess material will be removed.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 08:15:50 PM
When I placed the 30 degree crossing over my roadbed it didn't fit. Well, it did fit on one section. I used a paper template I thought I printed to scale.

Fixing the cork roadbed will be an easy fix.

In the photo below, the crossing fits best in this position. So I'll only need to move half of the roadbed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134057.jpeg)

The next photo shows the "not the best fit" for the crossing. It also shows the wood ties.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134126.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 02, 2019, 08:16:20 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020519134111.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on May 02, 2019, 10:05:38 PM
Don'tcha love it when a plan come together?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 03, 2019, 09:00:25 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 02, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
You're welcome.....glad to be of help.  :)


Thanks, I appreciate the help.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 03, 2019, 10:35:42 AM
Looks very cool uncle Tommie.  Keep up the good work my friend!

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on May 03, 2019, 10:53:30 AM
Nice work on building the crossing Tom.  You make it look real easy...of course the templates help, but still, to me it's a complicated affair that would have me huddled in a corner whimpering  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on May 06, 2019, 04:51:31 PM
Very nice Tom - I've always thought that hand laid track when done right is the most impressive aspect our hobby - and this is impressive.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 02, 2019, 10:05:38 PM
Don'tcha love it when a plan come together?


Chip,

Yes, but this one will require only a small change in the plan.  8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 04:57:22 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 03, 2019, 10:35:42 AM
Looks very cool uncle Tommie.  Keep up the good work my friend!

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Good to see you my friend. Thanks for the compliment and the work will continue.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 04:59:35 PM
Quote from: MAP on May 03, 2019, 10:53:30 AM
Nice work on building the crossing Tom.  You make it look real easy...of course the templates help, but still, to me it's a complicated affair that would have me huddled in a corner whimpering  :o


Mark,

Thank you kind sir, much appreciated. The aluminum template made all the difference. The template is free now if you want to try and come out of the corner. ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on May 06, 2019, 04:51:31 PM
Very nice Tom - I've always thought that hand laid track when done right is the most impressive aspect our hobby - and this is impressive.

Doug


Doug,

Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. After building the 30 degree crossing, I can now better understand why some prefer the hand laid track method. For me though, to old to change now.  :-X


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 05:08:42 PM
I used  Weldwood Contact Cement for gluing the rail to the ties.

I placed two large weights on the track to hold it overnight while the glue dried. The next morning I cut off the tie carrier, cut the rails to the proper length and added rail joiners.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080519165059.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080519165115.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 05:11:49 PM
The crossing is made up of 20 individually cut and soldered pieces of rail.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080519165129.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2019, 05:18:59 PM
The crossing was again test fit on the cork. The old cork was removed. New cork was glued in place to match the angle of the crossing rail to the turnout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080519165145.jpeg)

I removed the old cork to the upper left of the crossing. I had to remove just over 5.5 feet of old cork in order to maintain my 52 inch radius. The angle is about an inch off the old cork but the 5.5 feet gives me the length to bring it back in line.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080519165202.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 08, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 08, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Very nice work my friend. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Oldguy on May 08, 2019, 11:10:48 PM
As with just about everything that you do, it is a work of art.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on May 09, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
Another challenge solved!  Looks great.   :D

I enjoy laying track by hand although I wouldn't attempt it on a layout the size of yours unless I was 30 years younger and didn't need to worry about working for a living.   ;D  There are pros and cons but that might be a topic worthy of it's own thread.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on May 09, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Looking great Tom. Are there aspects of modeling you are not too comfortable about?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on May 09, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
Looks great Tom.

I have hand laid a lot of track in my younger days, but I am like Bob, never again.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:15:18 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 08, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, see ya Saturday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 08, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Very nice work my friend.


John,

Thank you kind sir, appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on May 08, 2019, 11:10:48 PM
As with just about everything that you do, it is a work of art.


Bob,

Thank you for the kind words; however, my wiring is anything but works of art.  8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 09, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
Another challenge solved!  Looks great.   :D

I enjoy laying track by hand although I wouldn't attempt it on a layout the size of yours unless I was 30 years younger and didn't need to worry about working for a living.   ;D  There are pros and cons but that might be a topic worthy of it's own thread.


Bob,

Thank you, much appreciated. My first hand laid track layout was all the way back in 1958. It was code 100 on Tru-Scale wood roadbed. The ties were cut in the roadbed. I had two 4X8 sheets of plywood in a "L" shape. I was only 12 and made the decision then to never do it again.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 09, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Looking great Tom. Are there aspects of modeling you are not too comfortable about?


Jan,

Thank you for the kind words of support on the crossing.

Yes, wiring makes me very uncomfortable. When it works, I'm truly amazed. When it doesn't, I'm even more uncomfortable.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 09, 2019, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 09, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
Looks great Tom.

I have hand laid a lot of track in my younger days, but I am like Bob, never again.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you my friend. You can certainly add me to the "never again" list.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 10, 2019, 08:55:45 AM
I'll have to cast a dissenting vote Tom.....I really like hand laying the track and making the switches.

With that spike putting in thingie from Xuron and the curve rail whatchmacallit bender from Micro Mark it is easier and much faster than it used to be.

The only bad part is having to cut off about half of the spike heads. The old manufacturer that I used years ago made smaller heads that didn't need pre-cutting, but it seems that Micro-Engineering is the only game in town and their spike heads are just to darn big.

Other than that, I really like the process of hand laying and the way it looks when done.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 10, 2019, 08:55:45 AM


The only bad part is having to cut off about half of the spike heads.


Greg,

Keep going my friend, you are making the case for me.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on May 10, 2019, 11:22:25 AM
Here's an alternate source for really small spike heads.  Tain't cheap, though.  http://www.proto87.com/product1904.html


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 10, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
The crossover looks great.  Will look better when painted.  I was curious as to where the  rails would be cut to be isolated, but your pics show that.  I'm also wondering how you're going to wire this up.  Thinking of how this would work on my layout (DCC), won't it short where the two lateral "V" rails are?  Or will you use a power reverser for this?


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: deemery on May 10, 2019, 11:22:25 AM
Here's an alternate source for really small spike heads.  Tain't cheap, though.  http://www.proto87.com/product1904.html (http://www.proto87.com/product1904.html)


dave


Dave,

Thanks for the information on the not so cheap short spikes.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 10, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
The crossover looks great.  Will look better when painted.  I was curious as to where the  rails would be cut to be isolated, but your pics show that.  I'm also wondering how you're going to wire this up.  Thinking of how this would work on my layout (DCC), won't it short where the two lateral "V" rails are?  Or will you use a power reverser for this?


Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for the kind compliment. No, it won't short on the "V" rails. If you cut it where the diagram shows in the below diagram, it will work. The red "F" is the north feeder and the black "F" is the south feeder.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519174151.jpeg)

This is where I dropped my feeders to the buss line and all works very well.

Stay tuned for a short video on the crossing.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:48:22 PM
I installed and wired the crossing this afternoon.

The cork has been fixed to the new 30 degree crossing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173131.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173147.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:50:20 PM
I started the rail in the southeast section.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173200.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173214.jpeg)

I placed the crossing on the track section, marked the crossing rails and then cut the track to fit.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Southeast and northwest sections of track were installed and soldered to the crossing rails.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173227.jpeg)

I repeated the process for the southwest and northeast sections.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173242.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:54:16 PM
When finished, I added the feeders as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173307.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519174151.jpeg)

Continued in a few more.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:55:30 PM
East side of the crossing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173321.jpeg)

West side of the crossing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100519173334.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
Here is a short video of the ACL Champion on the crossing.

The loco is at 1/3 Greg Speed, speed step 25. The video makes the train look faster than it actually was on the crossing.

This should make the Judge very very happy.


https://youtu.be/MbOjAhrO7AE
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 10, 2019, 06:28:28 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Tom.  The two sections are electrically isolated.  I'd be worried a short wheelbase steamer would stall out unless it had a "Keep Alive", otherwise it looks like it works!


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on May 11, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
Nice work Tom.  That crossing works perfectly "as seen on TV"!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 11, 2019, 09:03:56 AM
Well done Tom.....looking forward to seeing it in action.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 11, 2019, 09:05:47 AM
Quote from: deemery on May 10, 2019, 11:22:25 AM
Here's an alternate source for really small spike heads.  Tain't cheap, though.  http://www.proto87.com/product1904.html (http://www.proto87.com/product1904.html)


dave


Thanks Dave.....I bought some stuff from them years ago, but don't remember the spikes.....I'll check out their site again.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 11, 2019, 10:50:56 AM
Looking Good Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 10, 2019, 06:28:28 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Tom.  The two sections are electrically isolated.  I'd be worried a short wheelbase steamer would stall out unless it had a "Keep Alive", otherwise it looks like it works!


Jeff


Jeff,

This past Saturday morning we ran an Atlas 4 truck switcher across the diamond. The switcher does have WOW but no Keep Alive. There was not one second of hesitation while crossing.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: MAP on May 11, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
Nice work Tom.  That crossing works perfectly "as seen on TV"!


Mark,

Thank you, appreciate you following along. This was my first attempt at making a Fast Track item and I'm very pleased with the result. I must admit my experience with soldering brass helped a lot.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 11, 2019, 09:03:56 AM
Well done Tom.....looking forward to seeing it in action.  8)


Greg,

Thank you and I'm glad you got to see it this past Saturday morning. I told the Judge that if you came by, the first thing you'd do is get a freight car truck and roll it back and forth.

And, I was correct. You did exactly that and I'm very happy I passed the "Greg Test".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 11, 2019, 10:50:56 AM
Looking Good Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D 8)


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you, very much appreciate the kind support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:36:14 PM
In his Saturday Report, the Judge mentioned we had some derailments while backing around some curves. This has been an issue for us for the past few years. Not sure why it took me so long to fix the problem but we did fix the derailment issue on Saturday morning.

These ACL cars are some of the first Walthers came out with many years ago. This is when Walthers passenger cars and heavyweights sold for around $34.00.

They also came with McCrappy couplers.

I hope this next bit of information isn't news but Kadee makes a couple dozen different couplers. For the purpose of this thread, I'll only be discussing couplers with short, medium and long shanks. Shanks are also know as coupler arms.

Walthers cars hate to back up especially with short coupler shanks. Walthers new cars all come with the short shank/arms on the couplers. Many years ago I switched one end of the car to a medium (all in front) and a long (all in back) of the cars.

This did help but still caused a few derailments at times.

The following photo shows the cars with one long, on the left and one medium coupler on the right. The train is going forward. No problem.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165510.jpeg)

The diaphragms look prototypical here.

Now, when backing, the curve pushes the couplers out and the pressure on the diaphragms causes the cars to lift off the rails.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165526.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
The problem was solved when I replaced all the couplers with the long shank/arm. I used Kadee #26 Long Centerset Shank couplers on all the passenger cars.

In the next photo, the train is moving left to right and you can see the gap between the diaphragms is much wider.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165542.jpeg)

Here the train is backing on the same curve, diaphragms closer together.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165556.jpeg)

The result, no derailments of any kind. As I mentioned, no clue other than laziness on my part in not changing the couplers sooner.

The outside track is 38" radius and the inside is 36" radius. We backed the train through the curves in both directions and on both tracks with no derailments.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2019, 05:50:15 PM
This afternoon I started laying track in the freight yard at Summit. Tomorrow I'll go over an issue I came across ii the alignment of track.

Here is where I stopped. Can I say it is under construction?

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165728.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on May 14, 2019, 08:08:34 PM
I agree it's under construction.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on May 14, 2019, 10:04:02 PM
I anticipate there may be some disagreement about using the long shank couplers on the 85' passenger cars.  The gap between cars is more noticeable than before.  However, these cars are models and compromise is inevitable in many phases of the hobby.  The distance between the cars is something Tom and I can live with considering the A&S has plans to back passenger trains into the Union Station to be located at Summit and derailment will be avoided, at least in most cases.  BTW derailments of passenger cars did not only occur when backing up.  It happened fairly regularly on the ovalix going forward.  Every time a derailment occurs on the ovalix, somebody (Tom) has to crawl under the layout to get inside that structural miracle.  It is extremely difficult for me to get inside the ovalix due to both knees being replaced and Tom is catching up to me on age.  So I give a loud cheer to replacing the couplers with long shanks.  Those cars just wouldn't back up without derailing, even on our broad curves.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on May 15, 2019, 07:32:30 AM
Had it not been pointed it out I can pretty much guarantee that I would never notice, or question, the change in the gap between the passenger cars.  As compromises go in our hobby this one is very minor as far as I'm concerned.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on May 15, 2019, 11:28:08 AM
I didn't see no stinking Gap.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on May 14, 2019, 08:08:34 PM
I agree it's under construction.  ;D


Dennis,

It's amazing how many different tools can end up on the work area. Thanks for stopping by and posting a comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 14, 2019, 10:04:02 PM
I anticipate there may be some disagreement about using the long shank couplers on the 85' passenger cars.  The gap between cars is more noticeable than before.  However, these cars are models and compromise is inevitable in many phases of the hobby.  The distance between the cars is something Tom and I can live with considering the A&S has plans to back passenger trains into the Union Station to be located at Summit and derailment will be avoided, at least in most cases.  BTW derailments of passenger cars did not only occur when backing up.  It happened fairly regularly on the ovalix going forward.  Every time a derailment occurs on the ovalix, somebody (Tom) has to crawl under the layout to get inside that structural miracle.  It is extremely difficult for me to get inside the ovalix due to both knees being replaced and Tom is catching up to me on age.  So I give a loud cheer to replacing the couplers with long shanks.  Those cars just wouldn't back up without derailing, even on our broad curves.

Bill,

Remember Rule 1? This is our railroad so no other opinions are necessary. Long couplers? After all those long years of inadequate backing  :'( , I'd gladly use double long coupler bars.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 15, 2019, 07:32:30 AM


  As compromises go in our hobby this one is very minor as far as I'm concerned.   ;)




Bob,

Exactly right.

Tom   ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 15, 2019, 11:28:08 AM
I didn't see no stinking Gap.

Jim


Jim,

Gap, what gap? I don't see no gap either.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 07:06:13 PM
I started work on the East Summit Yard as I mentioned yesterday. This yard is just over 16 feet in length.

When I installed the mainline in East Summit, I measured the center line for both the north and south ends of the yard. Both ends of the yard throat come off the mainline. The yard throat is 14.5 inches from the wall to the centerline.

Here is a photo of the south end throat area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165610.jpeg)

I obviously made a mistake on the north end. Refer to the photo below. The old centerline is shown at 13.25 inches from the wall. A new line is  marked under the 14.5 inch mark.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165624.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 07:12:39 PM
Here is what I did to fix the difference in the 1.25 inch offset.

I marked a point in the centerline on the north end. I used a long 1X3 and drew a line from the north end to the south end centerline.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165656.jpeg)

I then glued the cork in place on the new line. In the next photo you can see the track in place with only a very slight 40" radius curve at the turnout to bring the track back in line.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165711.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2019, 07:18:14 PM
On each end of the yard is a short yard throat. The north end will hold a small loco and 6 cars. The south end will hold four cars and the south end mainline will be used in addition for switching in the south yard. More on this short yard throat later in the build thread.

This photo was taken prior to the cork and track being installed on the centerline.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140519165640.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 16, 2019, 09:47:36 AM
Hey Tom:

she's coming along quite nicely. I'll be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on May 16, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
Always enjoy following along. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2019, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 16, 2019, 09:47:36 AM
Hey Tom:

she's coming along quite nicely. I'll be following along.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, happy to have you following along.

Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on May 16, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
Always enjoy following along. Jim


Jim,

Thank you, very much appreciate you checking in and following the build thread.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2019, 06:17:20 PM
Didn't get much done this afternoon. Cutting the grass took some wind out of my sails.

I did get a few #6 turnouts installed in the north end of Summit Yard. These are all PECO turnouts.

Looking South -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160519181248.jpeg)

Looking North-

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160519181304.jpeg)

Tomorrow I'll work on the south end of Summit Yard.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on May 16, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
I am confused.......North is South and South is North.  I think you better get a new Compass or I need to recalibrate my eyes. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2019, 06:57:56 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
I am confused.......North is South and South is North.  I think you better get a new Compass or I need to recalibrate my eyes. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Jim


Jim,

Problem fixed, my eyes had dyslexia with letters. I did say cutting the grass took the wind and letters out of my sails.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on May 17, 2019, 07:02:36 AM
Great progress Tom.  I appreciate all of the pictures and explanations you offer in your thread.  Always informative and helpful!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2019, 07:03:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 17, 2019, 06:57:56 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
I am confused.......North is South and South is North.  I think you better get a new Compass or I need to recalibrate my eyes. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Jim


Jim,

Problem fixed, my eyes had dyslexia with letters. I did say cutting the grass took the wind and letters out of my sails.

Tom  8)

Well on the first day of the battle of Gettysburg the South did attack from the North the North defended from the South.   :P

Lot's of progress being made on the Summit!  The Judge will be very happy. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2019, 07:08:39 AM
Quote from: MAP on May 17, 2019, 07:02:36 AM
Great progress Tom.  I appreciate all of the pictures and explanations you offer in your thread.  Always informative and helpful!


Mark,

Thank you and you are welcome. It's all part of the process of sharing the build.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2019, 07:11:33 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 17, 2019, 07:03:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 17, 2019, 06:57:56 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
I am confused.......North is South and South is North.  I think you better get a new Compass or I need to recalibrate my eyes. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Jim


Jim,

Problem fixed, my eyes had dyslexia with letters. I did say cutting the grass took the wind and letters out of my sails.

Tom  8)

Well on the first day of the battle of Gettysburg the South did attack from the North the North defended from the South.   :P

Lot's of progress being made on the Summit!  The Judge will be very happy.


Bob,

Yepper, the South was doing well until General Lee decided it would be a good idea to go to Gettysburg. And, there is where all his officers decided to drink the cool aid.

Summit is going to be a busy yard. Lots of stuff to do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.

Your progress is amazing.

So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.

Your progress is amazing.

So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you and it is easy for me to get things done as I don't have a farm and barnyard critters to attend to.

North is South and South is North. It's all part of the Empire here.  8)  I appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:12:54 PM
Work on the Summit Yard continues. Here is a view from the North, looking South to the South end of the East Yard at Summit located on the Southeast corner of the layout. Got that ya'll?  ;D ;D ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170251.jpeg)


When finished it will have seven tracks with one dedicated to MOW and Wreck Train. I'm still deciding where to locate a caboose track.

All Kadee uncoupler magnets are installed as well.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:31:10 PM
Due to the number of turnouts in the yard area, I was unable to avoid the Tortoise switch motor interfering with a cross braces. I did plan and locate all mainline turnouts so the braces wouldn't be an issue.

Also, my signals are controlled by the Tortoise motors so these turnout locations were a priority.

I was going to just have hand throws for the yard area turnouts. However, looking into the future, I saw a great amount of damage to cars in the yard, scenery and structures. Having visitors reach over stuff to throw a turnout just is to scary for me.

I decided to add turnout control knobs or the old stand by "push/pulls" on the fascia.

I didn't invent this method and it has been around for 50+ years.

Here is how I installed mine.

I drilled a 3/32" hole in the fascia one inch below the top of the fascia. Don't need to show this as I hope ya'll know what a hole in the fascia look like.  :-X :P


I then bent a piece of .032 music wire to a 90 degree angle.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519165957.jpeg)

I then placed the 90 degree bend over the center of the throwbar as shown.

The music wire was cut two inches longer from the outside edge of the fascia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170014.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:37:11 PM
I then inserted a 3/32 brass tube into the fascia hole and pushed it until it was centered in the hole as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170037.jpeg)

I then backed it to the fascia edge of the hole, marked it and cut it to that length flush at the fascia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170054.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:41:17 PM
I got a little ahead of myself so let me backup a few photos.

The two lines are where the 1X3 brace is located under the plywood. You can see how close to the brace the turnout throwbar is.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170155.jpeg)

The is no way to correctly install a Tortoise under this turnout.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170213.jpeg)

More in a few. This time I'm grabbing a Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:46:42 PM
From the backside of the fascia and layout edge, the music wire is fed through the hole and up to the hole for the drawbar. The brass tube is then slid over the wire and pushed flush to the fascia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170109.jpeg)

Here is how it looks from the underside of the turnout area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170124.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:49:37 PM
In order to hold the brass tubing in place I cut a small block of wood, cut a notch and glued it over the brass tubing near the hole as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170138.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519170233.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
Installing these wasn't difficult but did take about 30 minutes each. I've done 8 so far with 10 to go.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519175459.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200519175513.jpeg)

Now I need to find small knobs or beads to glue over the wire.

NOTE:

The wires will be cut much closer to the fascia once a suitable knob or bead is found.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2019, 07:38:54 PM
Looks awesome Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 20, 2019, 09:22:32 PM
Very cool explanation on installing those push/pull turnout controls Uncle Tommie.  The new section of the railroad looks quite nice.

BTW, when you lay your yard tracks, do you do anything special to allow for rail expansion/contraction?  I've seen some people leave rail gaps here and there.  I know if you solder the whole thing together you get a a bunch of squiggly tracks two years later (IE don't ask how I know this). 

Have a Diet Pepsi on me.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on May 20, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.
Your progress is amazing.
So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!
Jerry



No certain answer available, but having NOT slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night, I can safely say that east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 21, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
Hey Tom:

Yard looks good and look like you have everything down to make it work well.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on May 21, 2019, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 20, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.
Your progress is amazing.
So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!
Jerry



No certain answer available, but having NOT slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night, I can safely say that east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.

Whats this about a "Twain Meet"?  Did Greg get his hands on a new Throttle ?

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 22, 2019, 08:15:31 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 21, 2019, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 20, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.
Your progress is amazing.
So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!
Jerry



No certain answer available, but having NOT slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night, I can safely say that east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.

Whats this about a "Twain Meet"?  Did Greg get his hands on a new Throttle ?

Jim


Not yet Jim.....I am looking for a new one that allows the Hudson to hit it's top speed of 120 mph.....Tom's throttle only goes up to 99 mph.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2019, 07:38:54 PM
Looks awesome Tom.


Curt,

Thanks very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 20, 2019, 09:22:32 PM
Very cool explanation on installing those push/pull turnout controls Uncle Tommie.  The new section of the railroad looks quite nice.

BTW, when you lay your yard tracks, do you do anything special to allow for rail expansion/contraction?  I've seen some people leave rail gaps here and there.  I know if you solder the whole thing together you get a a bunch of squiggly tracks two years later (IE don't ask how I know this). 

Have a Diet Pepsi on me.

;D ;D :o


Bruce,

Thanks very much. For me, the progress has been slow.

I do leave very small gaps in between some rails to allow for the humidity affecting the track. So far, I've experienced no problems.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 20, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2019, 01:00:10 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.
Your progress is amazing.
So is North South or South North!!  :)

Great job on this section!
Jerry



No certain answer available, but having NOT slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night, I can safely say that east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.


Chip,

I agree.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 21, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
Hey Tom:

Yard looks good and look like you have everything down to make it work well.

Karl


Karl,

Much appreciated. Thanks for checking in on the build thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 21, 2019, 06:40:22 PM


Whats this about a "Twain Meet"?  Did Greg get his hands on a new Throttle ?

Jim


Jim,

No, he didn't. However, if he does get a new throttle we need to make sure we have no "train meet".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:24:50 AM
I have some new updates for the thread but the photo gallery isn't working since the new server has been installed.

The new updates need photos so I'm in a hold pattern until then.

In the meantime, I'm going to have a Diet Pepsi or two.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 28, 2019, 11:33:07 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 28, 2019, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 21, 2019, 06:40:22 PM


Whats this about a "Twain Meet"?  Did Greg get his hands on a new Throttle ?

Jim


Jim,

No, he didn't. However, if he does get a new throttle we need to make sure we have no "train meet".

Just saying.

Tom  ;D


Right.....no carnage.....just speed.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on May 28, 2019, 06:02:12 PM
ACL 1504,
           Nice pictures and tutorial T.  Keep goin' girl, you're doin' awesome my friend. Can't wait till you finish. Relish your unexpurgated dissertation skills.   Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2019, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 28, 2019, 06:02:12 PM
ACL 1504,
           Nice pictures and tutorial T.  Keep goin' girl, you're doin' awesome my friend. Can't wait till you finish. Relish your unexpurgated dissertation skills.   Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thanks brother, appreciate you taking the time from your schedule to check in.

I'm not the wordsmith I used to be for sure but everything is still copasetic.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2019, 05:59:51 PM
Thank you Jimmy D for fixing the gallery and giving us a new server.

I was working on the north end of the yard when I came upon an issue with the last turnout. The turnout on the bottom has a dual purpose. It leads to a runaround track on the isle side and the top section leads to a soon to be built/installed icing platform.

The problem as shown in the below photo is that the two turnout rails don't align properly.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173629.jpeg)

Here is how I solved the problem. I needed to move the bottom turnout back less than an inch and yet a straight section between the turnouts still wouldn't work. This 3/4" piece of track needed to have about a 60 degree curve for the turnouts to be properly aligned.

I took two three inch pieces of rail and gently bent them as shown. The bend was in the middle. When satisfied I had the correct radius, I cut off one end and soldered it to the turnout rails on the left.

The black marks on the rail is where the other turnout rails will go.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173657.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Anyway, hopefully ya'll get the idea of what I did.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173719.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173736.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2019, 06:07:59 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173751.jpeg)


The track and cork in the upper left is not permanently in place.

The new short section is in place and smooth as can be.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290519173813.jpeg)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 29, 2019, 07:16:08 PM
Great fix for the track issue.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 29, 2019, 07:16:08 PM
Great fix for the track issue.


Curt,

Thank you, I'll have another update later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:39:08 PM
I decided to remove a turnout from just past the Great Divide Bridge. This track was going to a small industry, Hiram Bros. Wholesale Meats. You may remember this from the F&SM layout of George Sellios.

Yes, I have the kit! George never released this kit. It was put together, in kit form, by someone and I bought one of two offered on Ebay for $75.00 way back in 1990's. I have no idea who has the other one and I've never seen it on anyone else's layout. I may put it on Ebay and take a second retirement from the proceeds.  8) 8) ;D ;D ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519183303.jpeg)


Here is where the turnout was located.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519155923.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519155939.jpeg)



Here is the new look for the area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519155956.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:46:42 PM
I also decided to add the caboose/cabeese track on the south end of the Yard at Summit. In the next photo you can see the cork is in place and pins are holding it until the glue dries. Fast forward and the pins were removed and the cork sanded and leveled.

The caboose track will hold up to seven cabeese.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161453.jpeg)

This next view is of the south end of the yard. The squares below the rails are Kadee uncouplers.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161511.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:52:40 PM
I used a few freight cars to determine how many freight cars the yard would hold. I counted 110 if the yard is at full capacity. Of course, I'm stating now this will be a working yard and not a storage one.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161527.jpeg)

For an overall view of the yard and mainline on the east side, refer to the next photo. The length of the east side is 40 feet.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161544.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:56:00 PM
Same view with four cabeese on the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161602.jpeg)

Looking south, the track on the right will lead to a car repair shop.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161616.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2019, 06:57:14 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161632.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310519161649.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on May 31, 2019, 07:40:20 PM
So Tom, the track work is coming along quite nicely.  How many feet of mainline track are you going to have and the total amount of track?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 31, 2019, 09:16:55 PM
Great job Tom. Is it all powered yet? You do need a Pennsy cabin car! LOL.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2019, 07:14:31 AM
Quote from: sdrees on May 31, 2019, 07:40:20 PM
So Tom, the track work is coming along quite nicely.  How many feet of mainline track are you going to have and the total amount of track?


Steve,

Thank you for stopping in for a look see. Your question about the total feet of mainline is a tricky one. At the moment, the second and third levels both have approximately 130 feet of mainline. The Ovalix has 260 feet. The staging level has it's own 130 feet plus another 300 feet of storage.

So the mainline on all levels including the Ovalix is a guesstimate of at around 650 feet. Add another 50 for the center isle. No track has been laid on the third level center isle. This doesn't include any yard trackage or siding.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2019, 07:16:46 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 31, 2019, 09:16:55 PM
Great job Tom. Is it all powered yet? You do need a Pennsy cabin car! LOL.


Curt,

Thanks my friend. The feeders will be added in the next few days. I do have two cabin cars, one on the layout and one in storage drawer.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 01, 2019, 08:22:30 AM
Tom


It's great to see new track work on your layout Tom.  More space to fill with structures and scenery.  ;)  It keeps us going my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on June 01, 2019, 09:10:15 AM
Tom its looking really good!  I know you have a long way to go but its all coming together in those pictures!!

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on June 01, 2019, 10:13:10 AM
Looking great Tom. Always room for another couple miles of track. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on June 02, 2019, 05:22:43 AM
Doing great Tom , your trackwork is very neat , I am really trying to do mine with yours as an example.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 02, 2019, 06:10:33 AM
Great progress Tom.  Looking really good!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 01, 2019, 08:22:30 AM
Tom


It's great to see new track work on your layout Tom.  More space to fill with structures and scenery.  ;)  It keeps us going my friend.


John,

Track work is fun to do when done correctly, meaning no derails down the track. In another month or so, I'll be ready to start another structure and some scenery.

Appreciate you checking in on the progress.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: Jerry on June 01, 2019, 09:10:15 AM
Tom its looking really good!  I know you have a long way to go but its all coming together in those pictures!!

Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you very much my friend. I think I can safely say I'm about 85% complete on the track work. The third level center isle will have a lot of track and supporting structures.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on June 01, 2019, 10:13:10 AM
Looking great Tom. Always room for another couple miles of track. Jim


Jim,

Thank you kind sir, maybe a few more miles but not much more than that.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on June 02, 2019, 05:22:43 AM
Doing great Tom , your trackwork is very neat , I am really trying to do mine with yours as an example.


Jan,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the trackwork. I look at track as a model, it can look good or bad depending on how you do it.

The best advice I could give anyone on laying neat and flawless track is to be patient and fix any issues as you go. Sometimes I want to not follow my own advice!  ;D ;D  By this I mean I don't always want to run the three passenger test cars over each joint as it's soldered in order to find and issues then. Freight cars are a no brainer but the track must be free of any issues for the long heavyweights.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 02, 2019, 06:10:33 AM
Great progress Tom.  Looking really good!


Mark,

Thank you as well. I really appreciate everyone following along and posting comments.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2019, 04:53:19 PM
Work on the Summit Yard continues but no pictures forthcoming. Ya'll have seen the yard and I'm just adding more track, dropping feeder wires, filling in the tie gaps and testing turnouts and uncouplers.

Hopefully I'll get to a point of some new photos to share later this week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 07, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
Work on the layout continues but the updates are slow these days.

I finally got the Great Divide Bridge sides on.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160605.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160620.jpeg)

One day this bridge will be replace with something more realistic.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 07, 2019, 04:12:31 PM
I added the fascia over Eaton's Curve as well.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160635.jpeg)

Yes, it's level!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160650.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 07, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160703.jpeg)


Looks like the Army is sending in reinforcements to help the Tahope Police with the folks from the Bottoms.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160716.jpeg)

These Army vehicles were made at Raymo's Motors.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on June 07, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Hey Tom:

That is some really cool scenery. I really love seeing photos of your RR.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on June 07, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 07, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Hey Tom:

That is some really cool scenery. I really love seeing photos of your RR.

Karl
Second that, a treat every time
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 07, 2019, 07:18:30 PM
Very nice work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on June 08, 2019, 09:39:49 AM
Looking good. I really like those period Army vehicles. Got to get over there one of these days!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 09, 2019, 01:40:54 PM
Looking good Tom!  Glad to see you back at it after the short vacation.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Raymo on June 10, 2019, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 07, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160703.jpeg)


Looks like the Army is sending in reinforcements to help the Tahope Police with the folks from the Bottoms.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160716.jpeg)

These Army vehicles were made at Raymo's Motors.
Pretty bad if the ARMY needs to show up!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 11, 2019, 07:51:28 AM
Tom


The scene really looks great!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 11, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Great scene for sure!  I'm thinking the troops are being sent in to check out the reports of moonshiners setting up in the local territory.  I'm looking forward to seeing it in person the end of this month!!

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 11, 2019, 05:53:45 PM
Tom, That's some great work!!! Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 07, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Hey Tom:

That is some really cool scenery. I really love seeing photos of your RR.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks Buddy, very much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:13:08 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on June 07, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 07, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Hey Tom:

That is some really cool scenery. I really love seeing photos of your RR.

Karl
Second that, a treat every time

Jan,

Thank you, I'll try to get more photos up when the scenery continues on the second level. Now, I'm wiring all the track and signals on the third level.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 07, 2019, 07:18:30 PM
Very nice work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: cuse on June 08, 2019, 09:39:49 AM
Looking good. I really like those period Army vehicles. Got to get over there one of these days!


John


John,

Thanks very much. When back in the area give me a call and come on by. If I'm here you are always welcome.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 09, 2019, 01:40:54 PM
Looking good Tom!  Lad to see you back at after the short vacation.

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by. I'm back at it 6-8 hours+ a day now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Raymo on June 10, 2019, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 07, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160703.jpeg)


Looks like the Army is sending in reinforcements to help the Tahope Police with the folks from the Bottoms.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070619160716.jpeg)

These Army vehicles were made at Raymo's Motors.
Pretty bad if the ARMY needs to show up!


Raymo,

Yes sir, the bottoms is a rough place. Or, maybe they are going to Sweaty Betty's for lunch.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 11, 2019, 07:51:28 AM
Tom


The scene really looks great!


John,


Much appreciate the compliment and for checking in on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 11, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Great scene for sure!  I'm thinking the troops are being sent in to check out the reports of moonshiners setting up in the local territory.  I'm looking forward to seeing it in person the end of this month!!


Mark,

Thank you, the troops could also just be passing through.

Looking forward to your visit later as well. It will be a fun visit for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on June 12, 2019, 02:14:31 PM
Nice looking scene Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 12, 2019, 02:14:31 PM
Nice looking scene Tom.


Steve,

Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 04:42:06 PM
I went to Hobby Lobby with the Babe while she looked for a picture frame. I drifted over to the craft section and found the perfect item for the "push/pull" knobs.

This is a product from Woodpile, called Shaker Pegs and are one inch long.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163231.jpeg)

Once the fascia is painted, I'll paint the knobs white and glue them in place.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 04:44:47 PM
I also added another PECO #6 turnout on the main. This turnout goes to the north end of the double track icing platform.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163312.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163326.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
Fast forward and the turnout in now installed.

The space between the second and third level is just over 19 inches. This makes it more difficult to install Tortoise turnouts under the third level. I came up with a solution that makes it very easy to install the Tortoises.

I take a 3 ft. piece of .032 Music Wire and make a small 90 degree bend in one end. I take the other end and feed it, from the top, through the hole in the PECO throwbar.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163245.jpeg)

The 90 degree bend keeps it from going past the throwbar from the top.

I then secure it to the Tortoise as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163258.jpeg)

I use hot glue, adding it to the top of the Tortoise, and then position it under the hole. I make sure it is centered prior to the glue drying. You have about 15 seconds to get it right. I make a few practice runs of positioning the Tortoise prior to adding the glue.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 05:10:20 PM
I use the 8 pin blue connector on the bottom of the Tortoise 8 pins. This way I can prewire the blue connector and then add it to the bottom of the Tortoise.

The next photo shows the two power wires (on the outsides), the four signal wires (red/green) and the two black wires.The two black wires go to one of the buss lines.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163349.jpeg)

I then push the blue connector up onto the bottom of the Tortoise.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163403.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 05:16:23 PM
I then check to make sure the Tortoise is powered and is under the control of the Digitrax DS64 switch decoder. ONce I'm satisfied with the turnout operation, I use the Dremel cut off disc and cut the .032 Music Wire as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163418.jpeg)

I then add the signal wires from the blue connector to the signal wires on the signal.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163432.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 05:22:11 PM
Nothing hurts my aging back more than getting down and pulling wires under the layout. My solution for pulling the Tortoise power wires is to use a 6 wire phone cable. I got just under 500 feet from the Army Navy Surplus store for $10.00.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163444.jpeg)


When I pull this cable, I'm pulling three sets in one instead of one at a time.


I use this exclusively for wiring the Tortoise motors.

I think I've already used around 300 feet.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163457.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2019, 05:25:38 PM
I'll pull the cable to the longest run, turnout, and use a pair to power that turnout. I'll then cut the extra for the second turnout and do the same for the third.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130619163511.jpeg)

I'll add more to the thread in the next few days.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 13, 2019, 06:46:34 PM
Your wiring is always so neat. Mine looks like a bowl of spaghetti.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on June 13, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
All this wiring from the guy who once was afraid of ANY wiring. :o :o :o :o

Awesome job Tom.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 14, 2019, 06:46:29 AM
Nice.  Very nice!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on June 14, 2019, 08:48:41 AM
Nice looking work Tom

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on June 14, 2019, 12:09:38 PM
Hey Tom:

You are moving right along. Keep the photos coming.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:32:35 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 13, 2019, 06:46:34 PM
Your wiring is always so neat. Mine looks like a bowl of spaghetti.



Curt,

Thank you for the compliment. However, what you don't see will scare ya. My wiring may not really be neat but it is functional and operational. These are the 110 wires from the 11 Ds64's which in turn controls the power to the Tortoise motors.  8)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140619172828.jpeg)


Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on June 13, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
All this wiring from the guy who once was afraid of ANY wiring. :o :o :o :o

Awesome job Tom.

Jim


Jim,

Yes, you are absolutely correct. And, I've learned a few things over the past 30 years as well.  :-X :-X


Oh, and thank you my friend for the support.


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 14, 2019, 06:46:29 AM
Nice.  Very nice!


Mark,

Thank you for the kind words. Your visit is getting close.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on June 14, 2019, 08:48:41 AM
Nice looking work Tom

Doug


Doug,

Thank you very much for the compliment, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 14, 2019, 12:09:38 PM
Hey Tom:

You are moving right along. Keep the photos coming.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, much appreciated. The pictures will continue for some time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 06:03:08 PM
I got in10 hours today so the day was very productive.

All third level Tortoise switch motors are installed not counting the third level center isle. I still have three signals to install. All the signal wiring is complete, I just need to solder them to the blue connectors on the switch motors.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 14, 2019, 07:24:42 PM
Tom, Sound's like you were a busy RR Engineer? :)
Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 15, 2019, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 12, 2019, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 09, 2019, 01:40:54 PM
Looking good Tom!  Lad to see you back at after the short vacation.

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by. I'm back at it 6-8 hours+ a day now.

Tom  ;D

6-8 hours a day!  Wow, that's amazing.  Why do I sense that your high energy level is returning now that you started drinking "Diet Pepsi" again.  Just saying.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 15, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Hey Tom,
I noticed that you are using LED Strip lights on your railroad.  A buddy of mine at work is planning on using them on his N-scale project but has had a tough time finding "Solid" information on the strips.  Did you talk about those in a past thread?  If not could you provide some information on which strips you used and why.  Also, did you have any problems with the connectors that are used to put two strips together.  Thanks in advance.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on June 14, 2019, 07:24:42 PM
Tom, Sound's like you were a busy RR Engineer? :)
Dennis


Dennis,

Yes, very busy most of the past few days. I appreciate you stopping in for a look see.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 15, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Hey Tom,
I noticed that you are using LED Strip lights on your railroad.  A buddy of mine at work is planning on using them on his N-scale project but has had a tough time finding "Solid" information on the strips.  Did you talk about those in a past thread?  If not could you provide some information on which strips you used and why.  Also, did you have any problems with the connectors that are used to put two strips together.  Thanks in advance.

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

I have to admit that I do some of my best work under the influence of my favorite libation, Ice Cold Diet Pepsi. I have cut way bock on the DPs and am down to two per day.  I'll have a few swigs and then set it aside. I get working and when I grab it again its warm. I put it back in the frig and grab another cold one. It's not unusual for me to drink off and on from 5-6 different bottles, but only two empties per day and most of the time not even that. I've been drinking two bottles of water to every one DP.

The LED install and discussion starts at the bottom of page 125 of the A&S build thread, Part 2 thread. It goes through page 138, I think.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.1860 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.1860)

I'm not sure the same LEDs are still available from my Ebay source, but there are a ton available on Ebay.

I also cover how I wired them and that info can also be found between pages 125 and 138.

Hope this helps.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 16, 2019, 10:26:27 AM
Thanks for the info on the LED strip lights Tom.  I will pass it on. 

I ended up using florescent lights on my RR as LED strips were not really a thing for RR lighting back when I built my railroad.  The layout is roughly 21X14 and has 14 tubes.  When we first turned them on with no valences in place, my friend Bruce McCosh remarked "Who turned on the airport lights".

Hehe

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 17, 2019, 07:29:28 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 14, 2019, 06:46:29 AM
Nice.  Very nice!


Mark,

Thank you for the kind words. Your visit is getting close.

Tom  ;D
My son and I are really looking forward to it!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 16, 2019, 10:26:27 AM
Thanks for the info on the LED strip lights Tom.  I will pass it on. 

I ended up using florescent lights on my RR as LED strips were not really a thing for RR lighting back when I built my railroad.  The layout is roughly 21X14 and has 14 tubes.  When we first turned them on with no valences in place, my friend Bruce McCosh remarked "Who turned on the airport lights".

Hehe

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

You are very welcome and I was happy to help.

My layout room has flourescent lights on top which are set at a 45 degree angle, behind the valances. The light reflects off the high gloss white ceiling, creating an ambient light effect.

The second level is where I have the LED lighting and the effect is very impressive.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:05:04 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 17, 2019, 07:29:28 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 14, 2019, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 14, 2019, 06:46:29 AM
Nice.  Very nice!


Mark,

Thank you for the kind words. Your visit is getting close.

Tom  ;D
My son and I are really looking forward to it!!


Mark,

I'm very much looking forward to meeting you both. I'm glad you get to see the layout in person.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:37:14 PM
The Summit Yard is now complete. The mainline has five Tortoise turnouts wired and working. As mentioned in prior posts, these turnouts control the signals. The yard has 15 turnouts controlled by push/pull knobs.

Here is an overview view of the yard area, mainline and a portion of the spur for the industrial flats.

Looking south -

The two tracks on the right are icing platform tracks. More on this later in the thread.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172640.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172657.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:39:28 PM
This is the south end of Summit Yard.

L to R - Mainline, yard lead and caboose track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172713.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172727.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:41:18 PM
Looking north - L to R, yard lead and mainline.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172741.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
The two reefers are on the icing platform tracks. The yellow metal ruler is 36 inches long and the icing platform will be 36 inches long.


The ACL E6s are on the mainline.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172759.jpeg)


I decided to use the Tichy Icing Platform kit. It doesn't have an ice house but this will give me the opportunity to scratch build one.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172813.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 21, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
The layout looks fantastic! It sure is nice to see you moving at light speed, again.  As always, I will be following along, my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:00:32 PM
One of the issues I seriously considered when deciding on a third level was how will building it affect or destroy the completed second level.

It turned out my concern was correct but certainly not to the extent as I thought it may be.

Also, since the August 2108 NMRA open house, some things have been broken and damaged. Some by visitors and some mostly by me in the construction of the third level.

Most of the damage has occured on the east side of the second level, mainly scenery, trees and underbrush, and one structure.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172827.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172841.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 21, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
The layout looks fantastic! It sure is nice to see you moving at light speed, again.  As always, I will be following along, my friend.


John,

Thank you for the most generous and very kind compliment on the layout. I have a renewed passion for working on the layout and so far have been getting 6-8 hours plus a day in the train room.

Also, thank you for following along my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:06:55 PM
Oh man, I just got kicked in the right thigh by a large Charlie Horse. Damn, that hurts. To much up and down, in and out on the layout. 8) :'(

Damage continued -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172854.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172910.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:07:38 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172922.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172936.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:16:13 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210619172950.jpeg)


The scenery in the photo above is stuff I've found on the floor after some of my work sessions.



All the damage can and will be fixed. In fact, the net storage rack and office has already been repaired.

Trees and underbrush will be replanted and some new ground scenery will be added.

Once this is done, I plan to add a Lexan/Plexi-glass fascia to the layout. It will be four inches above the layout edge. I've already purchased the Plexi-glass. There will be no more reaching over the trees or layout beyond the Plexi-glass. Anything needing attention, I and I alone, will be the person to reach over the Plexi-glass.

Remember folks. my layout, my rules.

Thanks as always for following along on this adventure.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 21, 2019, 06:17:21 PM
Dang!  It looks like a hurricane hit your layout!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 21, 2019, 06:17:21 PM
Dang!  It looks like a hurricane hit your layout!


Mark,

Yes, and remember this is Hurricane Alley. All will be repaired this weekend.

See ya in a few days.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 21, 2019, 06:23:44 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 21, 2019, 06:17:21 PM
Dang!  It looks like a hurricane hit your layout!


Mark,

Yes, and remember this is Hurricane Alley. All will be repaired this weekend.

See ya in a few days.

Tom  ;D


Good luck with the cleanup after hurricane Tom. Or was it Greg?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 21, 2019, 06:23:44 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 21, 2019, 06:17:21 PM
Dang!  It looks like a hurricane hit your layout!


Mark,

Yes, and remember this is Hurricane Alley. All will be repaired this weekend.

See ya in a few days.

Tom  ;D


Good luck with the cleanup after hurricane Tom. Or was it Greg?


John,



I'm afraid I have to plead the 5th. Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies.

I will honestly say 90% of the damage is my own.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 21, 2019, 07:01:15 PM
The yard work looks great. Sorry to see the damage but most of it looks superficial which is a good thing. Unfortunately it will probably be 1-2 weeks before I can get down that way.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on June 21, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
Well, it is Hurricane Season, and the first one has passed by with only a little Wind Damage. :o :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 22, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 21, 2019, 06:23:44 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 21, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 21, 2019, 06:17:21 PM
Dang!  It looks like a hurricane hit your layout!


Mark,

Yes, and remember this is Hurricane Alley. All will be repaired this weekend.


See ya in a few days.

Tom  ;D


Good luck with the cleanup after hurricane Tom. Or was it Greg?

I suspect that in order to get all that work done in a weekend a few extra Diet Pepsis are going to need to be consumed. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on June 22, 2019, 10:36:42 AM
My first reaction was a hurricane but then I thought tornado. Seems appropriate. As usual Tom, it is always a pleasure to check into your layout. It also gives my motivation a jolt. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on June 23, 2019, 11:37:08 AM
Hey Tom:

the layout is looking just great. Thanks for all the great photos.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on June 23, 2019, 02:15:58 PM

Hmmmmm
It appears to this casual observer that electronics on the A&S may not be the only emitter of blue smoke.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 21, 2019, 07:01:15 PM
The yard work looks great. Sorry to see the damage but most of it looks superficial which is a good thing. Unfortunately it will probably be 1-2 weeks before I can get down that way.


Curt,

Thanks, next time you are in the area, stop in. I edged and cut the grass last Wednesday and it looks good. Oh wait, you are talking about the yard at Summit, not my YARD! My bad . ;D ;D


So, thank you for the compliment.

My next available Saturday will be July 6, 2019.

Hope to see ya then.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on June 21, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
Well, it is Hurricane Season, and the first one has passed by with only a little Wind Damage. :o :o :o :o

Jim


Jim,

It could have possibly been wind damage. When the Judge and I get together, there is certainly a lot of hot air blowing around.  8)

It was good to see you Saturday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 22, 2019, 09:51:08 AM


I suspect that in order to get all that work done in a weekend a few extra Diet Pepsis are going to need to be consumed.



Cousin Brucie,

It would in the past, but today I only had one small bottle and three waters. I tried to give them, DP, up but I guess I'm an admitted Diet Pepsiholic.  :-X :-[


And so it goes.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on June 22, 2019, 10:36:42 AM
My first reaction was a hurricane but then I thought tornado. Seems appropriate. As usual Tom, it is always a pleasure to check into your layout. It also gives my motivation a jolt. Jim


Jim,

Thank you very much for the kind compliment, much appreciated. A little jolt to our motivation is a good thing. Thank for looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 23, 2019, 11:37:08 AM
Hey Tom:

the layout is looking just great. Thanks for all the great photos.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, much appreciated. Photos will always be a big part of this thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on June 23, 2019, 02:15:58 PM

Hmmmmm
It appears to this casual observer that electronics on the A&S may not be the only emitter of blue smoke.  8)


Chipper,

Usually I'm right there with you but I guess I missed something with the "blue Smoke".  :-[ :-[


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:52:26 PM
Today I worked several hours on my forestry problems.

After making the decision to add a plexiglass fascia 3-4 inches above the layout, I also decided to use some fantastic trees I've been holding back planting.

I'd like to give a big "uplift and shout out" to Kris Cutler, Mrs. PennsyJ1.  Some time last year she made me about three dozen of the most wonderful and realistic looking trees. All the trees were made from Super Trees.

First, I had to clear an opening. The trees were marked for removal and stacked.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145101.jpeg)

The trees were then removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145114.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:56:35 PM
These are just two of the fantastic trees Kris made for the A&S RR.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145127.jpeg)

And here is a close up of the tree on the right.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619165419.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 04:59:36 PM
No explanation necessary here.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145142.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619165900.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 05:01:15 PM
This colorful tree replaced two pine and one palm trees.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145158.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145212.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 05:03:27 PM
Looks like I'm getting some wood rot at the bottom of the boat storage building.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145231.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Looks like Freddy is back in business.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145256.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145244.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 23, 2019, 05:07:37 PM
I'm not sure if this shirtless guy sitting on the log is "poopin or fishin".

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230619145309.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on June 23, 2019, 05:58:27 PM
Great photo's Tom , fishing or pooping , I don't think he gives a sh.....  :-X
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 23, 2019, 07:39:54 PM
Those are awesome looking trees.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on June 23, 2019, 10:28:41 PM
The new trees are really fantastic and add a lot to the layout by mixing up the type of trees
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 24, 2019, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on June 23, 2019, 05:58:27 PM
Great photo's Tom , fishing or pooping , I don't think he gives a sh.....  :-X


Jan,

Thank you. Upon a closer look, he is definitely fishin. However, I still think he don't gave a sh--.

Tom  ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144750.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 24, 2019, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 23, 2019, 07:39:54 PM
Those are awesome looking trees.


Curt,

Thank you, yes, Kris makes awesome trees. Very realistic looking bark.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 24, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 23, 2019, 10:28:41 PM
The new trees are really fantastic and add a lot to the layout by mixing up the type of trees


Steve,

Thank you, much appreciated. The variety of trees on a layout do indeed makes a huge difference.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PennsyJ1 on June 25, 2019, 05:22:21 AM
Hey there Mr. Tom,  Thank you and anyone else for the kind words about the trees. Glad you like them. Working on making more for your layout. I enjoy making the trees for you.

Kris
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 07:13:50 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 25, 2019, 05:22:21 AM
Hey there Mr. Tom,  Thank you and anyone else for the kind words about the trees. Glad you like them. Working on making more for your layout. I enjoy making the trees for you.

Kris


Kris,

The compliments on the trees are very deserving. They are very unique, realistic and I love them. Thank you very much. Your trees do make the layout look better.

Looking forward to seeing you both this Saturday my friend. You too Mr Bill.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on June 25, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
This morning Tom gave my son & I a grand tour of the A&S railroad. Wow! It looks even better when viewed in person. The aforementioned trees are fantastic as is the layout. Tom fielded all of our questions & was a great host. If you're in the area it's a must see! Thanks again Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 04:09:39 PM
I have watching the photo's that have been posted for George Sellios layout and one thing that I have noticed is how he varies the vegetation such as the various types of trees in a scene.  I will have to remember that when it comes time for me to do scenery.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 25, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
This morning Tom gave my son & I a grand tour of the A&S railroad. Wow! It looks even better when viewed in person. The aforementioned trees are fantastic as is the layout. Tom fielded all of our questions & was a great host. If you're in the area it's a must see! Thanks again Tom!


Mark,

Thank you for the kind remarks on the layout work. I was a pleasure meeting you and Charlie. I'm very happy you liked the layout.

This afternoon, my Babe Pam, steamed some shrimp and popped the cork on the wine. She said it was excellent. Thank you for the gift in a bottle.  ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 04:09:39 PM
I have watching the photo's that have been posted for George Sellios layout and one thing that I have noticed is how he varies the vegetation such as the various types of trees in a scene.  I will have to remember that when it comes time for me to do scenery.


Steve,

You are correct in the variation of trees on a layout. I remember as a kid the Life Like trees, they were all the same. And all my bushes were yellow, orange or dark green lichen. The grass was either brown or green dyed sawdust.

We are fortunate to live in a time in the hobby where the sky is literally the limit as to the types of supplies we have to model with.

Appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
As Mark mentioned, he and his son, Charlie, came by to visit for a few hours. They were also first hand observers of our I-4/Disney traffic.

We had a great time. Mark is also a crew member of the Expo Group.  He only lives some 20 minutes from Doug Foscale and Robert Seckler. How lucky can you get?

Mark lives in Conn. and drove down to Tampa to visit Charlie. They drove up from Tampa for the visit.

Here's proof of his visit.

Mark and Charlie Panzera -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250619161416.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:34:49 PM
In the next few days, I'll be adding the plexiglass fascia to the East side of the layout.

I took a few photos of some of the areas that will soon be protected.

Still waters run deep!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144808.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144823.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:35:38 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144838.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144851.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:36:00 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144904.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240619144921.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 25, 2019, 04:40:18 PM
Sounds like it was a fun visit. Excellent looking close ups.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 25, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 25, 2019, 04:40:18 PM
Sounds like it was a fun visit. Excellent looking close ups.


Curt,

Yes, it was a very enjoyable visit and thank you ref. the close ups.

Hope you have a better sleep tonight.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
These are more fantastic pictures of your layout.  I really like the first two of this bunch.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 26, 2019, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
These are more fantastic pictures of your layout.  I really like the first two of this bunch.
Ditto
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on June 26, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
Tom,

I never tire looking at photos of your layout.  You have really mastered the technique for amazingly realistic water.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on June 27, 2019, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on June 26, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
Tom,

I never tire looking at photos of your layout.  You have really mastered the technique for amazingly realistic water.

Agreed and I even get to see it in person on a not-as-frequent as I'd like basis!   :P  Gotta get back down there soon.  I have a few things to show Tom.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on June 27, 2019, 01:54:01 PM
Nice looking work Tom

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on June 28, 2019, 04:41:52 PM
Hey Tom:

Great buildings and I realyu like your water.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
These are more fantastic pictures of your layout.  I really like the first two of this bunch.


Steve,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:33:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 26, 2019, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: sdrees on June 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
These are more fantastic pictures of your layout.  I really like the first two of this bunch.
Ditto


Cousin Brucie,

Ditto to your ditto above. Ha!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on June 26, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
Tom,

I never tire looking at photos of your layout.  You have really mastered the technique for amazingly realistic water.


Jerry,

Thank you kind sir. I'm very pleased with how the water turned out in the lagoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 27, 2019, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on June 26, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
Tom,

I never tire looking at photos of your layout.  You have really mastered the technique for amazingly realistic water.

Agreed and I even get to see it in person on a not-as-frequent as I'd like basis!   :P  Gotta get back down there soon.  I have a few things to show Tom.   ;)


Bob,

Thanks very much. Come on down, we are meeting July 6th. Should be a half full house.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on June 27, 2019, 01:54:01 PM
Nice looking work Tom

Doug


Doug,

Thank you, very much appreciate you checking in and posting a comment. they all keep me going.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 28, 2019, 04:41:52 PM
Hey Tom:

Great buildings and I realyu like your water.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you as well, the water turned out very nice. Certainly better than I hoped.

Tom  ;D

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718184205.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180714.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 29, 2019, 06:43:26 PM
Tom, My God, What's the secret with the water? Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:46:34 PM
I haven't done much work on the layout since this past Monday. I worked in the yard two days and that episode took a few days off me. Meaning I was to sore to work on the layout.

Getting old just plain sucks; however, it is better than the alternative.

Tomorrow I plan to start adding the plexi-glass to the fascia on the east side. Notice the word "plan"?

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on June 29, 2019, 06:43:26 PM
Tom, My God, What's the secret with the water? Dennis


Dennis,

Thanks for stopping by and for the question.

Here is what I did. Look/read what I put on page 149 of Part 2 of the Atlantic & Southern build thread. Let me know if this doesn't answer your question.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.2220 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.2220)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 29, 2019, 07:16:21 PM
Tom, Yes it does thank you very much......Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 07:19:26 PM
Dennis,

Happy to help. Here is the way I covered making waves. It starts about half way down the page.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.2625 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=2807.2625)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 29, 2019, 07:23:30 PM
Wow!!! That came out perfect. Reminds me of Okefenokee swamps in Florida. When I was there.......Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on June 30, 2019, 04:35:53 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:42:34 PM

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718184205.jpeg)


I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought this was a photo of real life instead of a model, superb water and the lighting makes it even better.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on June 30, 2019, 08:37:08 AM
Hey Tom:

WOW!!! that is really cool looking. Love your water.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: DennisBourey on June 29, 2019, 07:23:30 PM
Wow!!! That came out perfect. Reminds me of Okefenokee swamps in Florida. When I was there.......Dennis


Dennis,

Thank you. I painted my Suwanee River Lagoon after some photos I've seen of spring fed areas. Here is one such area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619093111.jpeg)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on June 30, 2019, 04:35:53 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 29, 2019, 06:42:34 PM

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718184205.jpeg)


I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought this was a photo of real life instead of a model, superb water and the lighting makes it even better.


Jan,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the water scene. I'm very pleased with how this area turned out. I think the lights reflecting off the water add a bit of realism to the scene as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 30, 2019, 08:37:08 AM
Hey Tom:

WOW!!! that is really cool looking. Love your water.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks my friend, very much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 30, 2019, 09:42:38 AM
Wow - Tom that looks fantastic.  The waves reflecting the LED lighting really looks great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on June 30, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
Dang, that's a cool photo Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 01:48:31 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 30, 2019, 09:42:38 AM
Wow - Tom that looks fantastic.  The waves reflecting the LED lighting really looks great.


John,

Thank you my friend. The photo did come out better than planned.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on June 30, 2019, 01:48:54 PM
Tom,

I highly agree with your cousin, Bruce. on the photography.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 30, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
Dang, that's a cool photo Uncle Tommie!

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

When I took the photo the water was kind of cool as well.  ;D ;D


Thanks very much for the compliment cousin.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 01:51:13 PM
Steve,

Thank you, much appreciated. I was a lucky shot for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 01:53:09 PM
I started adding the plexi-glass fascia today. I need to help the Babe with some 1:1 stuff and when finished, I'll post a few photos of how it looks.

I'm very pleased with how it turned out.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 04:08:46 PM
I used a 1X3 as a base to hold the plexi-glass level as I lined it up and screwed it in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619135409.jpeg)


I cut a piece 6.5 inches wide or high. Each piece was 4 feet long - I had no choice here as this is the length it came. Two inches below the ground level and 4.5 inches are above ground level.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619135425.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 04:12:03 PM
I'll leave the protective film on the pieces until I get them in place and secure. I removed the film on the piece on the left so you can see the difference.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619135438.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619135453.jpeg)

I'll finish the plexi-glass tomorrow.

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2019, 04:13:59 PM
This photo was taken looking through the clear fascia.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619135513.jpeg)

Yepper, it's all level.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300619140106.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 30, 2019, 05:00:19 PM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:20 PM
Tom, is it screwed directly to the fascia or did you use rubber washers to take some of the stress off so it wouldn't crack?


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 30, 2019, 07:44:59 PM
Tom


The plexiglass looks great.  I just bought some plexiglass for my control panels and left the store with a much lighter wallet.  Can I ask where you bought it and cost?  I have a number of areas on the S&S RR that need the same type of protection.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 30, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
Tom, Nice looking layout sir..... Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Oldguy on June 30, 2019, 10:18:27 PM
Those are fantastic scenes and photos.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 30, 2019, 05:00:19 PM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 30, 2019, 05:56:20 PM
Tom, is it screwed directly to the fascia or did you use rubber washers to take some of the stress off so it wouldn't crack?


Jeff


Jeff,

I'll go into more detail this evening.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 30, 2019, 07:44:59 PM
Tom


The plexiglass looks great.  I just bought some plexiglass for my control panels and left the store with a much lighter wallet.  Can I ask where you bought it and cost?  I have a number of areas on the S&S RR that need the same type of protection.


John,

Thank you. It was a bit pricey and I'll go into more detail on the Lexan/plexiglass this evening.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 12:58:49 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on June 30, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
Tom, Nice looking layout sir..... Dennis


Dennis,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout. If you are ever in the Orlando area stop in for a visit. Since June, 2017,  I've had 96 visitors. I think 10-12 have been forum members.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 12:59:55 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on June 30, 2019, 10:18:27 PM
Those are fantastic scenes and photos.


Bob,

Thank you very much for the compliment. It has been an enjoyable adventure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 01, 2019, 01:17:33 PM
I'll take you up on that!!!!!!!!! Beautiful area. Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 02:35:31 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 01, 2019, 01:17:33 PM
I'll take you up on that!!!!!!!!! Beautiful area. Dennis


Dennis,

You are welcome anytime. Just make sure I'll be here. Call or PM.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 01, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
Tom, Thank's............Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 02:55:27 PM
I've been referring to the clear fascia as Plexiglass out of habit. It is actually a polycarbonate called Lexan. This stuff ain't cheap. Both Lowe's and Home Depot sell it in 36" X 48" pieces. I'm not sure about Home Depot but Lowe's no longer offers this product in 4X8 sheets.

At Lowe's a 36" X 48" piece sells for $103.00 and the same size is offered by Home Depot for about $87.00. I used my Lowe's CC and got 5% off.

When I checked Home Depot all the pieces were scratched or the protective film was missing or half torn off. The ones at Lowe's were perfect. The protective film is to protect the surface until you get it cut and in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010719144541.jpeg)

https://www.lowes.com/pd/LEXAN-30-in-x-36-in-Clear-Polycarbonate-Sheet/3142233 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/LEXAN-30-in-x-36-in-Clear-Polycarbonate-Sheet/3142233)


Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
I cut the strips on my 10" blade table saw and the Lexan didn't burn or chip. I did use a very fine tooth saw blade, 160 tooth blade to cut the Lexan. This is where the protective film comes in handy. The film protects the surface while cutting.

I used a 7/64 drill bit to drill the hole through the Lexan and into the layout fascia. I then used #6 pan head phillips sheet metal screws. Yes, sheet metal screws! They have a course thread but most importantly they had a smooth round head. This prevents any clothing material getting caught  like may happen with a wood screw head.

For a little extra tight fit, I use a #8 flat washer. The #8 is plenty and a #10 washer has a hole larger than the #6 screw head.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010719144553.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 03:08:45 PM
I did finish the Lexan fascia and here is how it looks. I'm experimenting with a larger format photo, not sure I like it.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010719144514.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
Now the structure on the edge of the Suwannee River Lagoon is protected.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010719144528.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 01, 2019, 03:36:37 PM
Tom, Up here in NH it shows $93 but only 30"x 36" expensive. Look's good though......... Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on July 01, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
Now you're going to have to deal with fingerprints all over that nice clean Lexan.   :D  Not sayin' who might do such a dastardly deed but there will be no denying it when you lift them and run them.  ;D  ;D 

The trees and structures are protected!  Great job! 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 01, 2019, 05:03:48 PM
It looks awesome Tom. Are you going to put something on the top where 2 sheets meet to keep them uniform?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on July 01, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Looks great Tom!  Now this section of the layout is protected from any human "hurricanes" that might come through!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on July 01, 2019, 07:07:35 PM
ACL 1504,
           Tom...  man! I absolutely enjoy visiting your thread to see your progress on your layout.  You are truly a master modeler in every sense one can describe. You are without a dubious explicate of lofty inspiration my friend.

I've got to get off my phat arse and get way down there to witness this awe inspiring layout soon-real soon.  Keep doin' yur mission bro.  Love the work, love the work!  Thanx Thom... P.S. now where did I put my libation at???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on July 01, 2019, 10:51:39 PM
Tom


Thank you for posting the details on the Lexan.  I just did a quick check on amazon and the prices are all over the map.  This is the stuff I bought for my control panels.  Only mine was 1/8 inch thick.  I have some areas where I'm going to have to spend the money to protect the models.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on July 01, 2019, 11:11:37 PM
Tom, Once upon a time I lived in Escondido, Ca on a golf course,which is north of San Diego.  My windows that faced the golf course were made out of Lexan because I got tired of replacing the windows with glass. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 01, 2019, 03:36:37 PM
Tom, Up here in NH it shows $93 but only 30"x 36" expensive. Look's good though......... Dennis


Dennis,

Yep, prices vary and I could have saved more by going through the internet but couldn't send it back if scratched.

I just chalked up my $206.00 purchase as another layout investment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 01, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
Now you're going to have to deal with fingerprints all over that nice clean Lexan.   :D  Not sayin' who might do such a dastardly deed but there will be no denying it when you lift them and run them.  ;D ;D 

The trees and structures are protected!  Great job!


Bob,

I ordered some static free plastic cleaner but never thought about someone's fingerprints. I guess I need to load my 9mm just in case. And, as I spent 6 years in the CSI Section, running and comparing latents will also work.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 02, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
Hey Tom:

the facia looks great and should for what it costs. Also like the building and scenery behind it.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 01, 2019, 05:03:48 PM
It looks awesome Tom. Are you going to put something on the top where 2 sheets meet to keep them uniform?


Curt,

Thank you. No they fit very nicely as you will see next time you come over. Maybe this Saturday?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:49:02 PM
Quote from: MAP on July 01, 2019, 06:55:07 PM
Looks great Tom!  Now this section of the layout is protected from any human "hurricanes" that might come through!


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciated. Notice I waited until you and Charlie visited prior to putting up the Lexan?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: tct855 on July 01, 2019, 07:07:35 PM
ACL 1504,
           Tom...  man! I absolutely enjoy visiting your thread to see your progress on your layout.  You are truly a master modeler in every sense one can describe. You are without a dubious explicate of lofty inspiration my friend.

I've got to get off my phat arse and get way down there to witness this awe inspiring layout soon-real soon.  Keep doin' yur mission bro.  Love the work, love the work!  Thanx Thom... P.S. now where did I put my libation at???


Brother Thommy,

Thank you for the kind compliment on my layout and work. Let me be the first to say you are becoming quite the "ink slinger" with yur fancy wordsmithing. Keep it coming bro!  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:56:14 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on July 01, 2019, 10:51:39 PM
Tom


Thank you for posting the details on the Lexan.  I just did a quick check on amazon and the prices are all over the map.  This is the stuff I bought for my control panels.  Only mine was 1/8 inch thick.  I have some areas where I'm going to have to spend the money to protect the models.


John,

You are very welcome my friend. Although the Lexan was pricey, I figured my time in repairing and replacing trees was justification for the money spent. I'll call it insurance for an expensive hobby.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: sdrees on July 01, 2019, 11:11:37 PM
Tom, Once upon a time I lived in Escondido, Ca on a golf course,which is north of San Diego.  My windows that faced the golf course were made out of Lexan because I got tired of replacing the windows with glass.


Steve,

I can believe it. After so many "smash and grabs" businesses here in Orlando started replacing the window glass with half inch Lexan.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 06:06:55 PM
I have a area on the middle isle where there will be street running. I was going to use Trains of Texas Hydrocal street material until Walthers cornerstone came out with street brick material.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172425.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172440.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 06:11:46 PM
The street is a real 1:1 4 feet 9 inches in length.  Last year I painted the rails but not the ties. No ballast was added to this section of track either.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172454.jpeg)

The track was cut/unsoldered and removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172605.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
This set of feeders will be moved to just north of the brick street.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172538.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172507.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2019, 06:17:24 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172551.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020719172524.jpeg)


I'll spray paint the brick sheets with Floquil Oxide Red and when dry, highlight it with Floquil Southern Freight Car Brown and Zinc Chromate Primer. And, when that is dry, I'll follow with a light A&I black and street stains.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on July 02, 2019, 07:06:18 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Will be a fun area to watch come together.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 02, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
I'm sure it will look excellent when you're done, like everything else you do. Yes I plan on visiting on Saturday.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 03, 2019, 08:55:14 AM
Tom:  Are the sheets the same thickness as the cork road bed, or do you have to shim?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 02, 2019, 07:06:18 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Will be a fun area to watch come together.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Hey, long time no see! Yes, this will be fun and I'm looking forward to it as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 09:37:30 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 02, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
I'm sure it will look excellent when you're done, like everything else you do. Yes I plan on visiting on Saturday.  :)


Curt,

Thank you for the vote of confidence on the project. I hope it turns out as planned.

See you Saturday morning. Lots of new stuff since your last visit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 03, 2019, 08:55:14 AM
Tom:  Are the sheets the same thickness as the cork road bed, or do you have to shim?


Larry,

Thank for stopping by and great question. I'll answer your question later this afternoon with photos and a little ink slinging as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 05:39:40 PM
The Walthers brick street sections/sheets are made so the rails match a section of track. I use code 83 Micro Engineering flex track. The ties are the same height as the bottom of the rail pit and the brick street piece.

Here is a look see.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030719094243.jpeg)

I know the Atlas and Walthers/Shinohara flex track ties are slightly higher than the ME flex track. So a test fit is always advisable.

Now, the pink foam board is the same height, 1/4", as the cork roadbed. This makes it easy as the plastic street pieces fit on the cork roadbed and on the pink foam without the need for any shimming.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030719094256.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 05:41:54 PM
Here is how the rails, less the ties, will fit on the street brick.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030719094309.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
I laid the five street sections in place and end to end. I made sure I had a good fit. In order to keep them in the correct order, I numbered the sections 1-5. The arrow tells me to place this piece with the numbered end facing south.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030719173024.jpeg)

All five sections are now painted with full strength with Floquil Oxide Red. The sections are dry to the touch but not yet cured. If I try to add any coloring to the bricks at this stage, the Oxide Red and the other colors will bleed together. I'll need to wait several days for the Floquil paint to fully cure.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030719173107.jpeg)

More tomorrow -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 03, 2019, 06:05:19 PM
Hi Tom, The gantry crane shows 4 rails. I went to walthers and nothing like your's. I found track inserts but it looks different...... Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 07:19:03 AM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 03, 2019, 06:05:19 PM
Hi Tom, The gantry crane shows 4 rails. I went to walthers and nothing like your's. I found track inserts but it looks different...... Dennis


Dennis,

It all comes in the box. I'm just using the middle section and leaving off the gantry side pieces.

Tom  ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719071730.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 04, 2019, 07:20:18 AM
Perfect thanks Tom.........Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 04, 2019, 10:25:58 AM
This is looking very cool Uncle Tommie.  Is this going to be in the center of a major townsite?

BTW, I've been doing better and better on the new meds as of late.  I think the doc has found the right combination!

Cheers.

Also, I noticed a large increase of traffic near your firework stand on the layout.  Could there be a reason for this?  Did they start selling Diet Pepsi?  Just saying.

Have a wonderful 4th of July my friend.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 02:35:48 PM
You are very welcome Dennis!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 04, 2019, 10:25:58 AM
This is looking very cool Uncle Tommie.  Is this going to be in the center of a major townsite?

BTW, I've been doing better and better on the new meds as of late.  I think the doc has found the right combination!

Cheers.

Also, I noticed a large increase of traffic near your firework stand on the layout.  Could there be a reason for this?  Did they start selling Diet Pepsi?  Just saying.

Have a wonderful 4th of July my friend.

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Always good to see you. This will be the street running down to middle of Tahope. Street running speed restricted to 10 MPH.

Very happy to hear the new meds are working. Maybe this is the magic combination.

Three Fingered Freddy's has been very busy selling fireworks and Diet Pepsi.  ;D ;D  BTW, It's 2:48 PM here and I've only had half of a 17 oz. bottle of DP.

Hope your 4th is a fun one.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Well, I find myself about 40 photos behind in posting but I'll get to them all eventually.

The black line in the next photo is where the brick street was going to end. I decided instead of cutting the brick street section short, I'd just go ahead and add the other 7 inches.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143019.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143033.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 02:50:40 PM
Of course every decision to make a change has some sort of consequence that follows.

The track leading to the turntable and roundhouse area will have to be realigned.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143053.jpeg)

Time to fire up the grill so I'll finish this portion later this afternoon or early evening.

Happy Independence every one.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
In order to remove the ballast, track and cork roadbed, I filled a spray bottle with warm water.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143108.jpeg)


The water was sprayed on the track and ballast and let stand for about 15 minutes. The warm water softened the matte medium used to hold the ballast.

I simply lifted the track from the ballast and roadbed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143122.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 05:15:20 PM
While the ballast was still wet, I used a putty knife and removed the wet ballast.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143137.jpeg)

The wet ballast was dumped in a box and placed in file 13.  8)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143151.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 05:20:39 PM
Normally I wouldn't try to save the cork roadbed. However, this section of roadbed was shaved down to the plywood level. I didn't want to have to do it again.

I refilled the water bottle with some fresh warm water and sprayed it on the edges of the cork. I let this soak for about 20 minutes and started to remove the cork.

To do this I used a sharp wood chisel.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143206.jpeg)

Using the chisel beveled edge down, I slid it under the cork and slowly pried up the cork.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143224.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2019, 05:25:26 PM
I carefully bent the cork over onto itself as I went.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143240.jpeg)

Once the cork was up, I soaked it in the utility sink and used a toothbrush to remove the rest of the glue from the bottom of the cork. The cork was then set in the sun to dry.

When the plywood area was dry the excess cork and glue was sanded smooth.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719170911.jpeg)

More tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on July 05, 2019, 07:49:28 AM
Lots of progress since my son and I visited Tom....looking good!  I did notice that you hadn't installed the Lexan yet....I thought it was a test you were giving my son and I to see if we were the Hurricane Twins!  I think that Walther's brick streets will look really impressive and will add another point of interest with it being a different type of road you're adding to the layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: MAP on July 05, 2019, 07:49:28 AM
Lots of progress since my son and I visited Tom....looking good!  I did notice that you hadn't installed the Lexan yet....I thought it was a test you were giving my son and I to see if we were the Hurricane Twins!  I think that Walther's brick streets will look really impressive and will add another point of interest with it being a different type of road you're adding to the layout.


Mark,

Yes, lots of progress since your visit. Also, I wanted you and Charlie to see the Suwannee River, Piney Woods and the Perkin's Farm with orange trees areas without the Lexan.

The brick street came out nice. Oh wait, I haven't posted that part of the thread yet. Later today though.  ;D ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:04:55 PM
Once the Floquil Oxide Red cured, I painted the stones next to the rail pit with Floquil Aged Concrete. I then dry brushed onto the brick street pieces some Floquil Boxcar Red, Southern Freight Car Brown and Terra Cotta.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143258.jpeg)

I then added a very light A&I wash, Hunterline Driftwood, onto the brick streets. When dry, I noticed some of the dry brushing colors darkened to the point of not being able to tell they were applied. I'll go over them later with some pastels.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143315.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
I soldered two sections of code 83 flex track together, measured the length I needed (five feet and four inches) and removed those ties.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143328.jpeg)

In the next photo you can see I have the rails in place next to the turnout. These rails need to be soldered but I can't do it with the plastic street in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143420.jpeg)

I took two rail joiners, cut them in half, and soldered the rails together.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:15:36 PM
I then added glue to the bottom of the street section, slid it under the rails and into place as shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143436.jpeg)

I did this with the other five sections of street. At this point the rails are still loose in the street sections.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040719143449.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:20:21 PM
I curved the end piece of flex track to see where and how much of the pink foam needed to be removed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145634.jpeg)

It is a 36" radius curve.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145621.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
I'll fast forward here and say I removed the offending foam, added the "new" old cork roadbed and a section of new code 83 flex track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145649.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145739.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 05, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
Tom, I Like how the street look's...Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
Dennis,

Thank you, much appreciated. I'll add some pastel weathering later.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 05, 2019, 03:25:48 PM
Tom, Thanks. How will you attach the rail's?.........Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:27:06 PM
Here is an overview look at the length of the brick street.

Looking south -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145708.jpeg)

And north -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719145723.jpeg)

Side walk will be next but I need to gather some supplies.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2019, 03:46:51 PM
Dennis asked how the rail was attached to the plastic street sections.

Here is what and how I did it.

I used the NMRA track gauge and some gool old CAA glue.

I ran my test car over the rails to make sure the rails were in the grooves. I used the track gauge and when in place added a small drop of CAA to the bottom of the rail.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719153852.jpeg)

Notice the small tube in the top of the CAA? This is a teflon tube. I cut a small hole in the top so the tube fit. This allowed me to "pinpoint" the glue to the area and not all over the painted and weathered street.

The Teflon tube allows the super glue to funnel back into the bottle without it clogging at the top.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050719153758.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 05, 2019, 07:33:46 PM
Very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 06, 2019, 10:49:13 PM
Very cleaver Uncle Tommie!  The new track looks great.

8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:38:52 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 05, 2019, 07:33:46 PM
Very nice Tom.

Thank you Curt.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 06, 2019, 10:49:13 PM
Very cleaver Uncle Tommie!  The new track looks great.

8) 8) 8)


Thank you cousin Brucie.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:43:44 PM
I've had the Gulf Gas Station in this location for about two weeks. I've decided I just don't like how it looks in this area.

So, the station is going back on the shelf for now. I'll search my stash and find one to build or is already built that will better fit location.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152623.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152639.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:46:45 PM
I'm going back to work on the second level. I need to get moving on the river area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152654.jpeg)

Now the area is ready for some new work.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152708.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:50:15 PM
I need to build a new retaining wall for the north side.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152725.jpeg)

The retaining wall section on the south side is from my old layout.

Something borrowed, something new and all that -  ;D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152740.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Here the old section prior to it being removed and saved.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719165451.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719153246.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 04:59:10 PM
I used Evergreen styrene sheets for the new wall, #9040 .040" thick.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152757.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719152815.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2019, 05:01:05 PM
Vertical columns added. I'll paint it tomorrow prior to the forecasted rains.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070719170037.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on July 07, 2019, 06:02:01 PM
I use .040 styrene so much I went to a local plastics dealer, and bought a 4' x 8' sheet for $30 - a lifetime supply.  The only "problem" is that it's black instead of white.  But for a lot of uses, particularly structure subwalls, black is actually better.  It's just harder to do layout, pencil marks don't show up very well on the black plastic. 


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 07, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
Hi Tom, Whats that building to the left of your Gulf Station? Thanks Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 07, 2019, 09:09:21 PM
Hey Uncle Tommie,
Would a Jason Jensen Kitbash work in place of the Gulf station?  Or perhaps an old fashioned "Stucky's" store?

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on July 07, 2019, 11:55:49 PM
Looking good, Tom.

I agree about the service station.  I think you perhaps need something with a bit more heft to it.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on July 08, 2019, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 07, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
Hi Tom, Whats that building to the left of your Gulf Station? Thanks Dennis

Dennis - That building is the Bar Mills - Sokol's Furniture and Mattress Company (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=1528.0) which I had the great pleasure of building for Tom.  I also did a separate thread on Lighting Bar Mills Sokol's Furniture and Mattress Company (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=1682.0).  I put somewhere around 40 LED's inside and outside of that structure.  It'll probably light up the second level of Tom's layout all by itself.   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 08, 2019, 08:48:34 AM
Bob, Thank you very much...Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 08, 2019, 11:14:55 AM
Hey Tom:

You are moving right along as usual. Looks great.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: deemery on July 07, 2019, 06:02:01 PM
I use .040 styrene so much I went to a local plastics dealer, and bought a 4' x 8' sheet for $30 - a lifetime supply.  The only "problem" is that it's black instead of white.  But for a lot of uses, particularly structure subwalls, black is actually better.  It's just harder to do layout, pencil marks don't show up very well on the black plastic. 


dave

Dave,

Wow, great deal on the .040 sheet. Black would be perfect for the inside/subwalls as you said. Don't know if I'd ever use that much or even have a place to store it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 07, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
Hi Tom, Whats that building to the left of your Gulf Station? Thanks Dennis


Dennis,

Bob was kind enough for answering this you. Me, myself and I are very happy he lives in the area and is willing to build structures. I'm not sure where I'd be, on the layout build, if I had to take the time to build the structures he has built for me.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 08, 2019, 05:08:16 PM
Well I gotta say he's a good friend..........Dennis
P.S Of course they don't make it anymore lol.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 07, 2019, 09:09:21 PM
Hey Uncle Tommie,
Would a Jason Jensen Kitbash work in place of the Gulf station?  Or perhaps an old fashioned "Stucky's" store?

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Yes, it would. My kitbash version of Jensen's kitbash is now in place. I'll let this sit for a few days and go from there. At this time, I like the kitbash here.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719171016.jpeg)

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3898.0 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3898.0)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 08, 2019, 05:08:16 PM
Well I gotta say he's a good friend..........Dennis
P.S Of course they don't make it anymore lol.


Dennis,

Yes, he most definitely is and not just for the model building.

Sorry to hear they don't produce Sokol's anymore. It is a great looking model of a furniture factory,

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 07, 2019, 11:55:49 PM
Looking good, Tom.

I agree about the service station.  I think you perhaps need something with a bit more heft to it.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you, the station is back on the shelf. I do have a few kits in mind to add to this area.

I thought about Bar Mills Decker's Tar and Soap but it would take to much room.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 08, 2019, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 07, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
Hi Tom, Whats that building to the left of your Gulf Station? Thanks Dennis

Dennis - That building is the Bar Mills - Sokol's Furniture and Mattress Company (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=1528.0) which I had the great pleasure of building for Tom.  I also did a separate thread on Lighting Bar Mills Sokol's Furniture and Mattress Company (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=1682.0).  I put somewhere around 40 LED's inside and outside of that structure.  It'll probably light up the second level of Tom's layout all by itself.   8)


Bob,

Thanks for the help here, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on July 08, 2019, 11:14:55 AM
Hey Tom:

You are moving right along as usual. Looks great.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, I appreciate you checking in on the build thread. I'm moving faster than I planned.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
The Gulf station is now back on the shelf. I've moved KC's Workshop (Jensen kitbash) to that area and like it better. However, I'll leave it there a week or so. Also, I made a pass through my kit stash and found three possible kits to fit in the area along with the kitbash of Jason Jenson's kitbash.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719170950.jpeg)


http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3898.0 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=3898.0)


I also considered using Bar Mills Decker's Tar and Soap for the area but the kit is just a little to much for the space.

I think FOS Carter Supply would fit next to the tire shop. FOS picture taken for the FOS site.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719164303.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
One other is Hollis Pest Control - photo from FOS site. If I use this one, I can dump all the pest control waste into the river.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719164315.jpeg)

And finally Rohlen Welding - photo from FOS site.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719164329.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2019, 05:33:30 PM
Oh, I forgot to add that the new retaining wall was painted this fine day.

I just used ACE Hardware rattle can Primer.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719170922.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
Work continues on the river area. I cut some .020 styrene strips and glued them around the cork as shown below.

Once the retaining wall is in place and painted I'll fill it with talous.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155652.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155706.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:05:41 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155723.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:08:04 PM
I decided to place Gusano's Mexican joint between the paved road and the rural post office.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155801.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155741.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:12:55 PM
I decided to use my kitbash version of the Jenson kitbash next to Bar Mills Sokols. Between the Jenson kit and the river I'll use the FOS Hollis Pest Control.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155819.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080719164315.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
For the roadway over the river, I plan to use a steel bridge and Rix early highway overpass. The structure will be kitbashed. The steel bridge will be in the middle and the overpass sections will be on each end.

In the photo below, you can see my 4' level with the steel bridge in the middle. Of course it will be level with the roadway.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155840.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155858.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2019, 04:17:26 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155914.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 13, 2019, 06:54:29 PM
The river area is going to look awesome.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on July 14, 2019, 06:55:35 PM
Looking great, Tom.

I was going to say - tough choice - but I think I like Hollis pest control best with its larger one story section and multiple roof lines.  I see you have already decided.  Looking forward to this area taking shape.

Cheers, mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 15, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Tom:  How do you do your transition in levels of the spur track off the main (as shown in the above photo)? 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2019, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 13, 2019, 06:54:29 PM
The river area is going to look awesome.


Curt,

Yes, I agree, I'm getting excited about the project. I need to get the road laid up to the river first.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2019, 10:27:49 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 14, 2019, 06:55:35 PM
Looking great, Tom.

I was going to say - tough choice - but I think I like Hollis pest control best with its larger one story section and multiple roof lines.  I see you have already decided.  Looking forward to this area taking shape.

Cheers, mark.


Mark,

Thank you. I think Hollis is the best structure for the spot as you said. I had a few others but they were just to big for the area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2019, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 15, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Tom:  How do you do your transition in levels of the spur track off the main (as shown in the above photo)?


Hey Larry,

Thanks for stopping by and for the question. I think you are talking about this siding.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130719155819.jpeg)

If so, the cork roadbed and the pink foam are the same thickness. It wasn't necessary to make any adjustments to the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161230.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2019, 10:37:19 AM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153754.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161330.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
I have many projects going on concerning the layout. None ready for prime time as yet but I've been busy.

Rumor has it the local Ticket Agent (The Judge) has purchased two new Illinois Central E units.

One of the projects is refitting the IC heavyweights with new LED lighting, replacing the MCCrappy couplers and adding marker lights to the observation car. Hopefully I'll have some photos to share tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on July 15, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
Coming along nicely Tom!  Nice choice of buildings.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 17, 2019, 10:09:10 AM
Thanks for the explanation on how you even the levels, Tom.  That process enables grade crossings to be flat rather than the giant hump so many have.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on July 17, 2019, 10:37:37 AM
Tom


You have made a lot of progress since my last virtual visit. Your layout just keeps getting better and better.  Very nice work my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 21, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Looks good to me Tom.  I do like the idea of the waste products being put into the river, at least from a modeling point of view.  Maybe you could even have an inspection team there writing up a fine for the pest control place. 

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on July 21, 2019, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 21, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Looks good to me Tom.  I do like the idea of the waste products being put into the river, at least from a modeling point of view.  Maybe you could even have an inspection team there writing up a fine for the pest control place. 

;D ;D :o

Reminds me of when was very young.  My hometown has a river that runs through it and is downstream from a larger city which was home to a bleach and dye plant.  We always wondered what color the river would be from one day to the next.  Blue, green, red, etc.  It's since been cleaned up but back then it was a dumping ground for all sorts of nasty things.  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: MAP on July 15, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
Coming along nicely Tom!  Nice choice of buildings.


Mark,

Thanks, after a week of the creeping crud, I'm somewhat back at the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 17, 2019, 10:09:10 AM
Thanks for the explanation on how you even the levels, Tom.  That process enables grade crossings to be flat rather than the giant hump so many have.


Larry,

You are very welcome, always happy to help. And yes, this way, the crossings are more realistic looking.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on July 17, 2019, 10:37:37 AM
Tom


You have made a lot of progress since my last virtual visit. Your layout just keeps getting better and better.  Very nice work my friend.


John,

Thanks very much for the kind words on the layout. The summer flu has really cut into my time the past two weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 21, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Looks good to me Tom.  I do like the idea of the waste products being put into the river, at least from a modeling point of view.  Maybe you could even have an inspection team there writing up a fine for the pest control place. 

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Dumping pest control chemicals in the river seemed like the thing to do in the late 40's early 50's. Why should the A&S RR be any different? I don't think they had any inspection teams for that back then.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 21, 2019, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 21, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Looks good to me Tom.  I do like the idea of the waste products being put into the river, at least from a modeling point of view.  Maybe you could even have an inspection team there writing up a fine for the pest control place. 

;D ;D :o

Reminds me of when was very young.  My hometown has a river that runs through it and is downstream from a larger city which was home to a bleach and dye plant.  We always wondered what color the river would be from one day to the next.  Blue, green, red, etc.  It's since been cleaned up but back then it was a dumping ground for all sorts of nasty things.  :o


Bob,

I was lucky growing up here in Central Florida in the 50'-60's. All the lakes and most of the rivers were crystal clear. We lived on Spring Lake and used to scuba dive, the water was so clear you could see the bottom some 50 feet down. It made finding errant golf balls very easy.

Can't say that anymore though.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:35:09 PM
A few things to mention before I get going. My 27 year old AC unit gave up the ghost this past week. So my time has been limited in the train room. It is 91 in here now.

Also, some attic critter or critters have possibly chewed some wires so I now have a short in the lights as well. First the electrician needs to check the damage and then I'll find an new AC unit. I'm sure they are much more efficient now than 27 years ago.

Prior to coming down with the summer flu bug, I started to repair all the Walther heavyweight passenger cars. I added the new Walthers LED lighting, some people and replaced all the MCCrappy couplers with Kadee scale couplers.

Here are the IC cars.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140719174633.jpeg)

On the observation car, I added rear LED marker lights.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:39:16 PM
I found two pair of the Tomar Adlake marker lights. However, they had the old 1.5 V grain of wheat bulbs in the markers.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719171010.jpeg)

I twisted the wires and removed the 1.5 V bulbs.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719171023.jpeg)

One bulb broke off so I used a #74 drill bit to remove the bulb and wires. Easy peasy.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
I decided to use the warm white LEDs for the markers.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719171049.jpeg)

Here is a marker with the new LED installed. I used Canopy glue to glue the LED in place and then touched it up with flat black.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719171037.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:47:16 PM
It's hot in here so I'm going to forgo some photos and cut to the chase.

On the vista dome car the regular Walthers LED light bar won't fit. I cut a short section off an LED lighting strip. Be sure when running the wires, you solder the + to the + and the - to the -. See photos below.

On the vista dome, I ran the wires along the interior side and soldered them to the light tabs on the end of the car.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140719174714.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719170957.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2019, 05:50:03 PM
Here's how the LEDs and markers look.

The markers aren't as bright as they appear. I couldn't tone the light done without loosing the contrast.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140719174647.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220719171102.jpeg)

All in all, I refitted some 15 cars.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on July 22, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
The Pullman cars look good, Tom.

We had a hot, dry summer in much of NZ this year with lots of extra food for rodents and there is a lot of problems now as they move indoors to escape the cold.

Cheers, mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on July 22, 2019, 08:42:58 PM
Tomar's LED markers come with a 2K ohm resistor and a rectifier bridge for DC/DCC use. I used the red (rear)-green-green versions and the colors photograph OK.  I hadn't known how easy it is to remove the bulbs from older markers; that may save me a few $$.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on July 22, 2019, 10:34:38 PM
Tom - I'm glad you are feeling better.  I hope you get the air fixed before Saturday.  But I'll see you then anyway.  Electric fan blowing over a block of ice works.  Good thing we aren't in Chicago or Baltimore or Detroit.  I hear it has been a little warm up there.  Makes up for the winter.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2019, 02:01:37 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 22, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
The Pullman cars look good, Tom.

We had a hot, dry summer in much of NZ this year with lots of extra food for rodents and there is a lot of problems now as they move indoors to escape the cold.

Cheers, mark.


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciated. We looked for rodent damage and didn't find any. So, something else is the issue. Electrician is coming back next week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2019, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: jbvb on July 22, 2019, 08:42:58 PM
Tomar's LED markers come with a 2K ohm resistor and a rectifier bridge for DC/DCC use. I used the red (rear)-green-green versions and the colors photograph OK.  I hadn't known how easy it is to remove the bulbs from older markers; that may save me a few $$.


James,

I have three older packs of Tomar markers I'll convert to LEDs. The bulbs are easy to remove. I hold the marker, use small needle nose pliers to grab the bulb wires where the black glue is. I then slowly twist the marker and the bulb comes out.

On one passenger set, I have the Red, yellow,yellow - I just painted out the yellow with black Tamiya and only the red appears. Looks better with just the red. I don't mind the R-G-G combo but the R-Y-Y doesn't look good at all.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2019, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Judge on July 22, 2019, 10:34:38 PM
Tom - I'm glad you are feeling better.  I hope you get the air fixed before Saturday.  But I'll see you then anyway.  Electric fan blowing over a block of ice works.  Good thing we aren't in Chicago or Baltimore or Detroit.  I hear it has been a little warm up there.  Makes up for the winter.


Bill,

Thanks, I still have a little head cold but it's gets better everyday. The AC won't get fixed by this Saturday. I'm going to replace the entire unit. If the new one lasts 27 years and then quits, it will be someone else's problem.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 23, 2019, 03:25:28 PM
It's going to look awesome Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on July 23, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Glad you're feeling better Tom!  At 27 years your AC unit gave you a nice run for the money.   Nice work on lighting the cars.  Great detail with the lighted Adlake lanterns!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on July 24, 2019, 09:42:23 AM
Green/Red/Red is the default per my 1961 B&M rule book.  But if a car has built-in markers, Red to rear is all that's needed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 25, 2019, 08:00:26 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling better Tom. 

Btw, Those passenger cars look amazing. 

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on July 26, 2019, 04:26:00 PM
This is scene is going to look great when completed
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:03:02 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 23, 2019, 03:25:28 PM
It's going to look awesome Tom.


Curt,

Thanks, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: MAP on July 23, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Glad you're feeling better Tom!  At 27 years your AC unit gave you a nice run for the money.   Nice work on lighting the cars.  Great detail with the lighted Adlake lanterns!


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment on the passenger cars. I feel much better. It was a wasted two weeks as all I did was cough, sneeze and hack.

More on the AC later in the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: jbvb on July 24, 2019, 09:42:23 AM
Green/Red/Red is the default per my 1961 B&M rule book.  But if a car has built-in markers, Red to rear is all that's needed.

James,

I have all the rer facing rear and the Y-Y on the sides and front have been painted black. I did leave the R-G-G on the C&O and the L&N.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:08:11 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 25, 2019, 08:00:26 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling better Tom. 

Btw, Those passenger cars look amazing. 

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

Much better, thanks alot.

I'm pleased with how the passenger cars turned out.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: sdrees on July 26, 2019, 04:26:00 PM
This is scene is going to look great when completed


Steve,

Thank you, appreciated you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
Update on all the happenings on the A&S RR.

At first, I thought I had some critters in the attic that may have had a meal on my wiring. Turned out not to be the case.

By a process of elimination on what was happening, I determined that two of my circuit breakers had failed and fused together somewhat. My AC unit is on a separate 220 line and the wall wiring is on a 110 line. These two breakers are in the same sub panel and they did in fact fuse together. They were installed in the early 1990's.

I called a local electrician on Wednesday, he came out Thursday morning to determine the problem. He came back this morning and installed a new electrical sub panel for the train building.

I was correct in that the two circuit breakers were fried.

The wiring is now fixed and the AC works better than it has in a long time. I thought the AC unit was dead but it only acted per the amount of electricity it was receiving. Now it has a second lease on life and that saved me 1K for a new unit.

Here is my fired breakers.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260719112747.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
Since I had a two week summer flu bug and the train room wiring was amiss, I can now get back to building the empire.

All is well with my soul at this time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 26, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
Since I had a two week summer flu bug and the train room wiring was amiss, I can now get back to building the empire.

All is well with my soul at this time.

Tom  ;D


Always good to hear..... :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 26, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
Since I had a two week summer flu bug and the train room wiring was amiss, I can now get back to building the empire.

All is well with my soul at this time.

Tom  ;D


Always good to hear..... :)


Greg,

Yes, I'm very happy to be back building the empire.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on July 26, 2019, 06:37:37 PM
Welcome back Tom, Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 26, 2019, 07:47:57 PM
I'm glad it wasn't worse Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on July 26, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Good news, Tom.  Glad that breaker fusing didn't spark a fire!!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on July 27, 2019, 04:43:19 AM
Quote from: deemery on July 26, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Good news, Tom.  Glad that breaker fusing didn't spark a fire!!


dave
Ditto that , would hate to see anything bad happening to your layout , or anyone elses for that matter.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on July 27, 2019, 08:27:56 AM
Tom


Good to hear you are back at it. I can't understand what caused them to fuse together. Lightning?  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on July 27, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
Whew!  I'm sure glad the damage was minimal and you're back in business without having to replace the A/C.  Looking forward to the Saturday report this week.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on July 27, 2019, 04:33:18 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 27, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
Whew!  I'm sure glad the damage was minimal and you're back in business without having to replace the A/C.  Looking forward to the Saturday report this week.  ;)

What Bob said.
Glad you are feeling better also.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on July 28, 2019, 11:21:10 AM
Ditto everyone else comments about your health and the AC/Electrical issues Tom.  Maybe a jolt from a can of Diet Pepsi will help.  God knows it can't hurt right?  Right?

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on July 26, 2019, 06:37:37 PM
Welcome back Tom, Dennis

Thank you Dennis, it's great to be back.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 26, 2019, 07:47:57 PM
I'm glad it wasn't worse Tom.


Curt,

Me too, when I figured out the problem, all power to the train room was turned off.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: deemery on July 26, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Good news, Tom.  Glad that breaker fusing didn't spark a fire!!


dave


Dave,

Thank you, the breakers were literally fused together. I was very fortunate on this one.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on July 27, 2019, 04:43:19 AM
Quote from: deemery on July 26, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Good news, Tom.  Glad that breaker fusing didn't spark a fire!!


dave
Ditto that , would hate to see anything bad happening to your layout , or anyone elses for that matter.


Jan,

Thank you, I don't think I have it in me to start over again.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on July 27, 2019, 08:27:56 AM
Tom


Good to hear you are back at it. I can't understand what caused them to fuse together. Lightning?  :o


John,

Good to be back. According to the electrician, the breakers were loose from the years of heat-cold-heat-cold etc. No lightning as this is a sub panel so the main panel would have gone first.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 27, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
Whew!  I'm sure glad the damage was minimal and you're back in business without having to replace the A/C.  Looking forward to the Saturday report this week.  ;)


Bob,

Whew is right! I definitely was very fortunate on this one. Not that a new AC unit wouldn't be nice but I didn't want to spend the extra $$ much less having to put it in.  8)

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on July 27, 2019, 04:33:18 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 27, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
Whew!  I'm sure glad the damage was minimal and you're back in business without having to replace the A/C.  Looking forward to the Saturday report this week.  ;)

What Bob said.
Glad you are feeling better also.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Thank you, yes, I'm feeling much better. In fact I think I'm finally over it all. The sick part that is.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2019, 02:38:45 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 28, 2019, 11:21:10 AM
Ditto everyone else comments about your health and the AC/Electrical issues Tom.  Maybe a jolt from a can of Diet Pepsi will help.  God knows it can't hurt right?  Right?

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you as well, I did fortify myself with three bottles of Diet Pepsi on this little adventure.  :-X :-X


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Lynnb on July 30, 2019, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
FINALLY SOME SUCCESS.

The separation of the levels was a success. The new DB220 Digitrax booster was programmed and installed.

The feeder wires were all reattached to the third level bus line. The reverse loop wiring was completed and performs perfectly as well.

The new DB220 Digitrax booster (photo below) is on the far right. The black power source is a MRC 50 amp power supply and controls the power to the lower level 43 Tortoise turnouts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260419160010.jpeg)

In the bottom photo, the three PSX Power Districts, levels 1-3, are on the top and the three PSX-ARs, levels 1-3 are on the bottom.

It sure feels good to have it all working properly again.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260419160530.jpeg)
Little bit of power there.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2019, 08:50:02 PM
Congrats Tom :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2019, 05:55:01 PM
Curt,

Thank you, see you this Saturday morning.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2019, 05:57:24 PM
The A&S RR thread hasn't been abandoned. Ive been working on structures for the second level at the south end of Tahope.

If anyone is interested here are the two builds I'm working on.

http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4527.0 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4527.0)


http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4542.msg123617;topicseen#new (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=4542.msg123617;topicseen#new)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on August 05, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Tom


Congratulations on solving another electrical issue.  I think getting those electrons where they are supposed to go is one of the most challenging parts of this hobby.  I will also be following your structure build threads- there is always something new to learn in this hobby.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on August 06, 2019, 07:06:51 AM
Great looking wiring Tom.  All neat & orderly....easy to track down where everything goes.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 06, 2019, 08:41:55 AM
SBG meet Saturday......oh boy.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 07, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 05, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Tom


Congratulations on solving another electrical issue.  I think getting those electrons where they are supposed to go is one of the most challenging parts of this hobby.  I will also be following your structure build threads- there is always something new to learn in this hobby.


John,

Electrical issues are my weakest link in railroad modeling. I learn as I go but am still very low on the totem pole with knowledge.

Thanks for following the other threads.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 07, 2019, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: MAP on August 06, 2019, 07:06:51 AM
Great looking wiring Tom.  All neat & orderly....easy to track down where everything goes.


Mark,

I got lucky in that it all works in spite of myself. Of course, I had many "buzzers" indicating a short prior to it all coming together.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 07, 2019, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 06, 2019, 08:41:55 AM
SBG meet Saturday......oh boy.  :) :) :)


Greg,

Yepper, all are welcome who may be in the area and even those not in the area. 8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on August 08, 2019, 10:52:50 AM
ACL 1504,
              I must say after looking at real railroad wiring all day on locomotives and wayside equipment boxes, then relaxing with your build wiring pics here on this thread.  I must say I see almost no difference, you must have had some real railroad wiring experience sometime in your life eagh.  Very good work my friend.  I'm gonna show some of this pics to my boss and say to him "we need to hire this guy a.s.a.p.".  Now, you know the rest, of the story!  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on August 08, 2019, 02:54:02 PM
Very impressive, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: tct855 on August 08, 2019, 10:52:50 AM
ACL 1504,
              I must say after looking at real railroad wiring all day on locomotives and wayside equipment boxes, then relaxing with your build wiring pics here on this thread.  I must say I see almost no difference, you must have had some real railroad wiring experience sometime in your life eagh.  Very good work my friend.  I'm gonna show some of this pics to my boss and say to him "we need to hire this guy a.s.a.p.".  Now, you know the rest, of the story!  KP-out...


Thom,

Thank you for the support. I don't think my wiring is all that neat but it is functional.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on August 08, 2019, 02:54:02 PM
Very impressive, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you. By my own admission, it could be a little neater.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
As I mentioned in a previous post, I've been working on a few structures for the South Tahope area.

Here is where I plan to place Whalen Apiaries. The scenery and road will have to be slightly moved but it will work.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819175750.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 06:01:48 PM
This structure won't have any interior or interior lights so the walls weren't painted black.  There will be two LED lights. One over the office door and one under the bay door canopy (not yet in place)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819175804.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 06:02:12 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819175827.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Hollis Pest Control will be place on the south side of the Big Tahope River.



(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819180320.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819180333.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 10, 2019, 06:05:41 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819180348.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100819180400.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on August 10, 2019, 08:03:22 PM
It is going to look real nice there Tom. I like the idea of selective interior lighting - it can be overdone.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on August 12, 2019, 01:18:43 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks like those two guys have a home on the layout. Can't wait to see um finished with scenery in place.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 15, 2019, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 10, 2019, 08:03:22 PM
It is going to look real nice there Tom. I like the idea of selective interior lighting - it can be overdone.


John,

Thanks, I agree. There will be 14 structures in this area just south of the river. Eleven are already in place, two are under construction and one is yet to be scratch built.

Lighting is my least favorite part of any build but I can't argue with the results.

Tom   ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 15, 2019, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 12, 2019, 01:18:43 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks like those two guys have a home on the layout. Can't wait to see um finished with scenery in place.

Karl


Karl,

I believe these two will fit in perfectly. I still have one to scratch build. It will be a scratch/kit bash of FSM Fox Run Milling.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 15, 2019, 04:26:06 PM
Looking good Tom.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 15, 2019, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 15, 2019, 04:26:06 PM
Looking good Tom.  :)


Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on August 16, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
hey Tom:

Can't wait to see you scratch build of Fox Run Milling.

karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on August 16, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
Can't wait to see how all this looks, maybe tomorrow.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 16, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
hey Tom:

Can't wait to see you scratch build of Fox Run Milling.

karl


Karl,

Me either, it will only be the main structure and not the rest of the FSM type. I'll start it after I finish Hollis Pest and Whalen apiaries.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:57 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on August 16, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
Can't wait to see how all this looks, maybe tomorrow.

Jim


Jim,

You are always very welcome my friend. The Judge and I will be here tomorrow.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on August 17, 2019, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 16, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
hey Tom:

Can't wait to see you scratch build of Fox Run Milling.

karl


Karl,

Me either, it will only be the main structure and not the rest of the FSM type. I'll start it after I finish Hollis Pest and Whalen apiaries.

Tom  ;D

Holly Cow!  That should be a project and a half.   

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 18, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 17, 2019, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 16, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
hey Tom:

Can't wait to see you scratch build of Fox Run Milling.

karl


Karl,

Me either, it will only be the main structure and not the rest of the FSM type. I'll start it after I finish Hollis Pest and Whalen apiaries.

Tom  ;D

Holly Cow!  That should be a project and a half.   

:o :o :o


Brucie,

Yes, it will. I plan to change the windows a little also.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on August 19, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
Well, It seems that I may have to send you a "Diet Pepsi" care package to get you thru this project Tom. 

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Erieman on August 20, 2019, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg)
Tom,


I'm grazing thru you 3rd book and really like this scene. Of course the buildings look great too. But, below the bench is most impressive. There is another railroad below the benchwork! All kidding aside, now back the convention planning.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on August 20, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Is that "another railroad" or "a hobby shop" underneath this one?   ;D


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 20, 2019, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: deemery on August 20, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Is that "another railroad" or "a hobby shop" underneath this one?   ;D


dave


It's a hobby shop on steroids Dave..... :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on August 31, 2019, 04:20:13 PM
It's actually a hobby distributorship for the entire east coast!

But notice that he appears to be out of "Diet Pepsi".  Could be a crisis is brewing....

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 01, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
BTW Tom, just to let you know your not alone, I could be a distributorship for the West coast. 

8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 19, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
Well, It seems that I may have to send you a "Diet Pepsi" care package to get you thru this project Tom. 

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

Not to worry, I have plenty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: Erieman on August 20, 2019, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 30, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300818152411.jpeg)
Tom,


I'm grazing thru you 3rd book and really like this scene. Of course the buildings look great too. But, below the bench is most impressive. There is another railroad below the benchwork! All kidding aside, now back the convention planning.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Yes, the structures look fantastic, thank you for building them. Wonderful job as usual on your structures.

You've seen what I have so you know this is only about 20% of what I have in stock. I told the local hobby shop if they needed anything to give me a call.  :P :P

Appreciate you stopping by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: deemery on August 20, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Is that "another railroad" or "a hobby shop" underneath this one?   ;D


dave


Dave,

What you see in the background is the lower level or staging level the Judge calls "The Bottoms".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 20, 2019, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: deemery on August 20, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Is that "another railroad" or "a hobby shop" underneath this one?   ;D


dave


It's a hobby shop on steroids Dave..... :) :) :)




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D      :-X
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:50:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 31, 2019, 04:20:13 PM
It's actually a hobby distributorship for the entire east coast!

But notice that he appears to be out of "Diet Pepsi".  Could be a crisis is brewing....

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

I do run out of a few supplies but NEVER Diet Pepsi.

Just saying.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 01, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
BTW Tom, just to let you know your not alone, I could be a distributorship for the West coast. 

8) 8) 8)


It must be the result of us drinking Diet Pepsi. Always be prepared as the Boy Scouts say.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:53:45 AM
During the past week while the computer was down, I got a lot done on the layout and structures.

However, It'll be a few days prior to updating the layout thread provided I don't lose power from Hurricane Dorian.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 01, 2019, 04:54:19 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:51:30 AM

It must be the result of us drinking Diet Pepsi. Always be prepared as the Boy Scouts say.

Tom  ;D


Tom Lehrer: Be Prepared (studio solo) (1953)  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrheaWuShU)


dave  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrheaWuShU)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 02, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:53:45 AM
During the past week while the computer was down, I got a lot done on the layout and structures.

However, It'll be a few days prior to updating the layout thread provided I don't lose power from Hurricane Dorian.

Good Luck on dealing with that unwanted visitor, Dorian.  I hope it doesn't come anywhere near you.  You are in my thoughts and prayers.

As for drinking lots of Diet Pepsi and having lots of train supplies, That could be a factor.  But I suspect that we are just both pack rats at heart.  I do tend to stock up on things when out-of-town since all we have here is a hobby town that doesn't stock much in the train department. 

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 02, 2019, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 02, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:53:45 AM
During the past week while the computer was down, I got a lot done on the layout and structures.

However, It'll be a few days prior to updating the layout thread provided I don't lose power from Hurricane Dorian.

Good Luck on dealing with that unwanted visitor, Dorian.  I hope it doesn't come anywhere near you.  You are in my thoughts and prayers.

As for drinking lots of Diet Pepsi and having lots of train supplies, That could be a factor.  But I suspect that we are just both pack rats at heart.  I do tend to stock up on things when out-of-town since all we have here is a hobby town that doesn't stock much in the train department. 

;D ;D ;D


Bruce,

Thanks, much appreciate the thought and prayers. I've been through every Florida Hurricane starting with Hurricane Donna in 1961.

I've been without power for up to 15 days  and at least a week on several occasions. No problems, just major inconvenience.

I'm all stocked up on hobby supplies, food and DIET PEPSI. I even remembered to get gas for the generator.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 02, 2019, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 01, 2019, 04:54:19 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 01, 2019, 11:51:30 AM

It must be the result of us drinking Diet Pepsi. Always be prepared as the Boy Scouts say.

Tom  ;D


Dave,

Thanks, I loved the song.

Tom  ;D

Tom Lehrer: Be Prepared (studio solo) (1953)  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrheaWuShU)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 02, 2019, 06:09:50 PM
Finally, I'm back to working on the layout!v YEA!!!

Whalen Apiaries is finished, except for lights, and now I can start clearing land. As mentioned in prior posts, here is where it will be located.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020919180804.jpeg)

I marked the scenery to be removed. Not sure you can see it but it is marked.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020919180818.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 02, 2019, 06:11:50 PM
I sprayed warm water on the area of scenery to be removed. After 10 minutes, I used a putty knife to remove the unwanted scenery and sand.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020919180830.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on September 03, 2019, 07:36:07 AM
Nice work on Whalens!  I like the location of the building as well.  So what kind of honey will they "bee" selling?  Tupelo?  Orange Blossom? Saw Palmetto?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2019, 08:07:05 AM
Quote from: MAP on September 03, 2019, 07:36:07 AM
Nice work on Whalens!  I like the location of the building as well.  So what kind of honey will they "bee" selling?  Tupelo?  Orange Blossom? Saw Palmetto?


Mark,

Thank you. The location was picked as it is near the Perkin's orange grove. So it will be Orange Blossom Honey for sure.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on September 04, 2019, 02:32:20 AM
ACL 1504,
             You come up with so many good layout photos, I don't know how to keep coming up with good wordsmithing ways of saying good job my friend.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2019, 06:12:43 PM
Quote from: tct855 on September 04, 2019, 02:32:20 AM
ACL 1504,
             You come up with so many good layout photos, I don't know how to keep coming up with good wordsmithing ways of saying good job my friend.  KP-out...


Thommy,

Thank you but it is mostly just plain luck. No patois necessary my friend. BTW, got the email and am working on the videos.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 12, 2019, 05:01:59 PM
Okay, the A&S is back in business. A lightning strike took out my surge protector and the Digitrax PS 2012. This week I installed the new power supply and it all works just fine.

I rarely run trains as I'm either building a structure, track work and or scenery. I'll plug it in when the Judge is here or I have guests.

My new surge protector is me unplugging the entire layout for the wall when not in use.  8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 12, 2019, 05:47:33 PM

Glad that the A&S is back in operation.


Does anyone have experience with whole-house surge suppressors?


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 12, 2019, 06:25:08 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 12, 2019, 05:47:33 PM

Glad that the A&S is back in operation.


Does anyone have experience with whole-house surge suppressors?


dave


HI Dave,


I was talking with Tom last week about this problem and did some follow up research.


I talked with the guys at APC, whose uninterrupted power source and surge protection I have on all of our computers and electronic stuff.


Their products work great cleaning up the electrical supply, protecting against normal surges and providing back-up power for short outages.


They said that, to their knowledge, there are no systems that protect 100% against a close or direct lightning strike. The only solution he said, was to unplug all devices during a lightning storm.


The surge is so fast and powerful in a strike, that it just jumps across the little protection thingy (my non-technical word) and fail every time.


If anyone knows of a fail safe system that requires no unplugging, it would be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on September 12, 2019, 06:29:40 PM
I had no success finding an address for B. Franklin in the Philadelphia phone book or on Google. However, since I know the church yard from which he flew his kite, I'll drop down there next week and see if anyone knows where he hangs out now. See if he has any suggestions. :))
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2019, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 12, 2019, 05:47:33 PM

Glad that the A&S is back in operation.


Does anyone have experience with whole-house surge suppressors?


dave


Dave,

Sorry, I didn't get on your post sooner. I've been building kits and such. Yes, I got a new Digitrax PS2012 and everything is now running smoothly once again.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2019, 06:04:12 PM
Greg,

I appreciate you passing the information on to Dave.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2019, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on September 12, 2019, 06:29:40 PM
I had no success finding an address for B. Franklin in the Philadelphia phone book or on Google. However, since I know the church yard from which he flew his kite, I'll drop down there next week and see if anyone knows where he hangs out now. See if he has any suggestions.


Chip,

If B. Franklin answers, please let me know. I have lots of questions about French women.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2019, 06:06:18 PM
I've been working on the layout the past few days.

I'll have some photos to share tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:36:26 PM
I'm back working on the layout and scenery for the next several months. I decided to start with the extension of the Tahope Hwy. The highway crosses the spur track leading to Tahope, crosses the Big Tahope River and then fades just past the two citrus processing plants.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153208.jpeg)

The highway has been marked on the foam.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175641.jpeg)



More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:39:05 PM
I wanted to use the cardboard for the road and some concrete around the three structures. This way I can mark the road and structures locations directly on the cardboard.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175657.jpeg)

Drawing in the road edges.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175710.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:41:26 PM
Out side curve cut and test fit to make sure it lines up where it should. So far so good.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175746.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175802.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
I started with Sokols but had to move it back a few inches. It looks better back from the road anyway. I used a pencil to outline the building and then cut out the center section.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175818.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175833.jpeg)

Back in a few, Diet Pepsi time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
I think ya'll can see where I'm going here. The other two buildings were located on the cardboard and traced.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175845.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175859.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:53:34 PM
Here is how it will look. The areas you see in pink will be ground scenery and the areas around the buildings will be concrete.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175928.jpeg)

I then cut a section for the road and between the track.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153227.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:58:19 PM
The building were replaced for a final test fit and then removed. The cardboard was then glued in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190919175928.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153227.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153240.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153256.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 20, 2019, 04:00:12 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153325.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153310.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on September 20, 2019, 04:27:46 PM
Tom,

I love the way you continued the same road from the other side of the aisle. Great way to have continuity on your layout.  I do not remember ever seeing that done before.  My hat is way off to you!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 20, 2019, 06:06:45 PM
Beautiful job on the roads. It always amazes me how you always get the cuts exactly right.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 21, 2019, 09:03:09 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2019, 03:54:48 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 20, 2019, 04:27:46 PM
Tom,

I love the way you continued the same road from the other side of the aisle. Great way to have continuity on your layout.  I do not remember ever seeing that done before.  My hat is way off to you!


Jerry,

Thank you for the kind compliment. I was able to do this on three of my roads. Two were close but just not there. I'm not sure I've seen this done either but then not sure what I had for dinner last night.  8) 8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 20, 2019, 06:06:45 PM
Beautiful job on the roads. It always amazes me how you always get the cuts exactly right.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciate the comment. It's like painting by the numbers, just cut along the line you drew. Just don't look at my wasted cardboard pile.  :P :P


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2019, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2019, 09:03:09 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you, oh wait, you are probably talking about the layout. :-[ :-[


Tom   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2019, 04:04:27 PM
I've been busy with the roads and wooden grade crossings. I have many photos but at this point I'm to tired to crop, add, load and post them to the A&S RR thread.

Hopefully tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 23, 2019, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 23, 2019, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2019, 09:03:09 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you, oh wait, you are probably talking about the layout. :-[ :-[


Tom   ;)


Good guess..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
This morning while finishing the roads, I became a six time winner of the #11 award.

I took a slice off the end of my right forefinger. No need to show a photo as I'm sure ya'll get the picture.

I dumped a bunch of pepper on the cut to stop the bleeding and then added a pressure bandage. After six hours it finally stopped throbbing.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144655.jpeg)

Also, when I cropped the latest batch of photos, I noticed several, about 14, were the same except maybe the angle was about an inch off to the side. Basically, the same photo so those were sent to the cutting room floor.  8)  I see no need to add the same photo from an inch different angle.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2019, 02:57:39 PM
Let me back up here a little. In order for the main highway to fit, I needed to trim the dirt road back a little.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144244.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144123.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2019, 03:29:15 PM
For my easy "how to lay a road on curved track" refer to page 150 of part 1 - about half way down.


http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.2235 (http://www.modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.2235)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2019, 03:35:50 PM
I cut and glued the road in place on the other side of the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144138.jpeg)

I'll need to finish this another day. I can't type very efficiently with this bandage and the finger is starting to throb again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 25, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Oh my.....not again.  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2019, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 25, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Oh my.....not again.  :o


Yepper, still stings.


Tom  :'(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on September 25, 2019, 03:24:29 PM
Looking very nice, Tom.  The scene is really starting to come together.

6 hours - I'm surprised you had any blood left!

Cheers, mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 26, 2019, 12:36:51 AM
Hi Tom,
Sorry to hear that the model demanded another "blood sacrifice" from you.  Hope you get to feeling better real soon.

BTW, the town site is coming along nicely.

Cousin Brucie

  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on September 27, 2019, 11:08:46 AM
Yikes!  Sorry to hear you've been bloodied again.  I thought the art of blood letting was back in the Dark Ages!  Great progress on the scene.  As usual it's been fun watching you work your magic.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on September 25, 2019, 03:24:29 PM
Looking very nice, Tom.  The scene is really starting to come together.

6 hours - I'm surprised you had any blood left!

Cheers, mark.


Mark,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by. It still stung after six hours but the bleeding stopped soon after the bandage was applied.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:22:38 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 26, 2019, 12:36:51 AM
Hi Tom,
Sorry to hear that the model demanded another "blood sacrifice" from you.  Hope you get to feeling better real soon.

BTW, the town site is coming along nicely.

Cousin Brucie

  :'( :'( :'(







Brucie,

Yea, me too. It stung like a "bee-atch" for several hours.  I used pepper to stop the bleeding, then washed it with peroxide and the added the pressure bandage. Hate it when these things happen during a work session.  8)


Oh, and thank you for the compliment.


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: MAP on September 27, 2019, 11:08:46 AM
Yikes!  Sorry to hear you've been bloodied again.  I thought the art of blood letting was back in the Dark Ages!  Great progress on the scene.  As usual it's been fun watching you work your magic.

Mark,

I said a few Dark Age words afterwards. Thanks for the compliment. I'm back to moving right along on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
The finger is now on the mend and I can type without any lingering affects from the cut.

The spur leading to Tahope is a 30 degree curve. Once I got the main highway set, I needed to add the paved portion between the rails.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144151.jpeg)

I used a scrap piece of cardboard and marked the edges of the road.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144204.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:33:25 PM
Next, using the 30 degree Ribbonrail as a guide, I penciled in the curve of the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144217.jpeg)

I then cut, yikes, inside the lines for the center of track portion.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144229.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:41:14 PM
Not shown here, but later shown, I trimmed this piece to fit the track.

Moving forward and all the main  highway was cut and laid in place but not yet glued.

I moved to the freight depot next. I needed to cut the cardboard to fit the area marked in black.

Using the piece I cut the road from, I placed it against the road, matching the cut curved sections. I marked on the cardboard where the entrance to the depot was located.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144310.jpeg)


I then cut that piece to fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144326.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:44:02 PM
In the next photo you can see I added 4X12's next to the rails.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144342.jpeg)


The freight depot parking lot was cut and added next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144400.jpeg)

Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:49:07 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144414.jpeg)


4X12s were added for the crossing. These were glued in place and trimmed to fit. The cardboard is still only inplace and not glued.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144426.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:52:08 PM
The road crossing the four Tahope tracks was added next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144443.jpeg)

Fast forward and finished.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144527.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:56:36 PM
I then added the narrow back road. This road gives me access to FOS' DeGraws Poultry and FSM Jefferies Staves.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144542.jpeg)

The roadway is cut and in place.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144555.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 27, 2019, 03:59:33 PM
The road isn't crooked, I drew and cut it this way to keep it from being so linear to the edge.

It also fits the angle of the Jefferies structure.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144627.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240919144641.jpeg)

I'll have more tomorrow or Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on September 27, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
Tom,

As usual, great progress.  Your placement of the streets makes perfect sense, the roads flow through your scenes and compliment them rather than looking like an afterthought.  I really like the planked crossings, top shelf effort in both design and execution, but I expect no less from you.  Once again, kudos. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on September 27, 2019, 08:45:32 PM
Hi Tom, What are you gonna use to make your roads? looks like your building all your templates first?  Thanks Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 27, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
Tom,

As usual, great progress.  Your placement of the streets makes perfect sense, the roads flow through your scenes and compliment them rather than looking like an afterthought.  I really like the planked crossings, top shelf effort in both design and execution, but I expect no less from you.  Once again, kudos.


Jerry,

Thank you, I have been busy. In reference to the roads, I'll get an overview (birdseye) of the roads in this part of Tahope. You'll see how they all fit together for the structures. I did the planked crossing to have something different other than the constant flow of paved crossings.

Now, you've put the pressure on me to keep up. No problem. I challenge myself more than anything.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on September 27, 2019, 08:45:32 PM
Hi Tom, What are you gonna use to make your roads? looks like your building all your templates first?  Thanks Dennis


Dennis,

Thanks for stopping by and for the question.

What you see as templates are actually the road bases.  These are glued to the pink foam and then painted and weathered.

When finished it will look like the one shown below. Believe it or not, this road is a cardboard template.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200919153208.jpeg)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 06:53:31 PM
All the roads are now glued to the pink foam. The main Tahope Highway has the first coat of paint. I used full strength Floquil Guilford Gray to represent the asphalt. The second and final coat will be applied when this coat cures.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183709.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 06:56:17 PM
I marked concrete expansion joints on 12 ft. centers for the three structures on the west side of the Tahope Highway.

Hollis Pest Control -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183639.jpeg)

Auto and Tire Repair Shop -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183610.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
And Solkol's Furniture -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183625.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 07:00:37 PM
I must have dropped the #17 blade on the road as I see a tear in the carlboad. Apparently I did this after the first coat of asphalt was painted on.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183654.jpeg)

I pealed up the cardboard and used a toothpick to apply a little white glue to the tear.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183724.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 07:03:13 PM
I placed a weight over the patch and let it dry overnight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183740.jpeg)

This morning it looks better but still shows. I'll either cover the area with a vehicle of use the spot as a pothole being repaired.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183754.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2019, 07:04:36 PM
I also added expansion joints in the narrow road between the two county roads.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280919183553.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 28, 2019, 07:23:42 PM
Looks really good Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on September 29, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
Tom,

If it matters (and we both know you already have a plan) I vote pothole, though not necessarily under repair.  Coming along nicely as usual.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on September 29, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Looking good Tom.  A pothole being repaired would be a great scenic detail, however placing a vehicle over it is a pretty quick fix.  Where do you get those sheets of cardboard for the road?  I know you told me the time my son and I visited, but that information has fallen out of my head  :o   Also, was there a specific thickness you favor?  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on September 29, 2019, 09:59:27 AM
Tom


Great looking road. One pothole in a stretch of road like that may be prototypical for Florida, but not in Michigan. I really enjoy watching the scene come to together.  Laying things out is one of the most enjoyable parts of the hobby for me. Keep up the good work my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 28, 2019, 07:23:42 PM
Looks really good Tom.


Curt,


Thank you my friend.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 29, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
Tom,

If it matters (and we both know you already have a plan) I vote pothole, though not necessarily under repair.  Coming along nicely as usual.


Jerry,

I'm going to make it a pothole but would like to have some workers on it as well. Problem is I haven't been able to find any road workers and a pavement roller machine. I do have the SS Ltd. roller but it is too old period wise.


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: MAP on September 29, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Looking good Tom.  A pothole being repaired would be a great scenic detail, however placing a vehicle over it is a pretty quick fix.  Where do you get those sheets of cardboard for the road?  I know you told me the time my son and I visited, but that information has fallen out of my head  :o   Also, was there a specific thickness you favor?  Thanks!


Mark,

Thank you kind sir. I get the cardboard sheets from Sam Flax Art Supply. There is a store just a few blocks down the road. It comes in 1 and 2 ply. I've been using the 1 ply for what you see now.

The main Tahope Highway leading out of Sandlando is 2 ply, twice the thickness of the one ply and much harder to cut.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919161355.jpeg)

Lots of changes just since your recent visit. Next summer will look like a different layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on September 29, 2019, 09:59:27 AM
Tom


Great looking road. One pothole in a stretch of road like that may be prototypical for Florida, but not in Michigan. I really enjoy watching the scene come to together.  Laying things out is one of the most enjoyable parts of the hobby for me. Keep up the good work my friend.


John,

Thank you as well. We do have lots of potholes here even without all the snow. Planning these areas has been a lot of fun for sure.

Appreciate you checking in.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:38:53 PM
I added the second and final coat of Guilford Gray to the main road. I'll let the paint cure for at least a week.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163449.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163503.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:43:22 PM
I used a metal ruler and scribe to scribe the expansion joints in the concrete areas. Once the concrete color is painted on, I won't be able to see the joints so now is the time to "draw the line"!  :D :D


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163550.jpeg)




Here is a bird's eye view of the roads just north of the river area. You can see how they all tie in together.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163533.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
All the concrete areas were painted with full strength Floquil Aged Concrete.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163611.jpeg)


Once the paint is cured, I'll lightly scribe the joints and then add weathering.

In the next photo, you can see the poultry structure has an aged concrete sidewalk. I weathered it using Light Gray A&I. I'll do the same to the road when cured.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300919163628.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on September 30, 2019, 05:21:14 PM
I so much love how that road comes out of the backdrop, excellent work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on September 30, 2019, 06:31:39 PM
Are you sue you were not a Road Builder in another Life. ??Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on September 30, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
Tom, Beautiful Job!!!!!!! Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on September 30, 2019, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 29, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
Tom,

If it matters (and we both know you already have a plan) I vote pothole, though not necessarily under repair.  Coming along nicely as usual.


Jerry,

I'm going to make it a pothole but would like to have some workers on it as well. Problem is I haven't been able to find any road workers and a pavement roller machine. I do have the SS Ltd. roller but it is too old period wise.


Tom   ;D

From observation in New England, you could just have 8 or 10 guys standing around with coffee and cell phones just looking at the hole in the pavement.
Fixing it? Thought this is the A&S, not fantasy land. (No offense, Raymo).
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on September 30, 2019, 05:21:14 PM
I so much love how that road comes out of the backdrop, excellent work Tom.


Jan,

Thank you very much. The road out of the backdrop works very well when viewed from track level.

I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on September 30, 2019, 06:31:39 PM
Are you sue you were not a Road Builder in another Life. ??Jim


Jim,

Well, maybe so but I did stay at the Holiday Inn a few times.  ;D ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on September 30, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
Tom, Beautiful Job!!!!!!! Dennis

Dennis,

Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on September 30, 2019, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 30, 2019, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on September 29, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
Tom,

If it matters (and we both know you already have a plan) I vote pothole, though not necessarily under repair.  Coming along nicely as usual.


Jerry,

I'm going to make it a pothole but would like to have some workers on it as well. Problem is I haven't been able to find any road workers and a pavement roller machine. I do have the SS Ltd. roller but it is too old period wise.


Tom   ;D

From observation in New England, you could just have 8 or 10 guys standing around with coffee and cell phones just looking at the hole in the pavement.
Fixing it? Thought this is the A&S, not fantasy land. (No offense, Raymo).


Chip,

We have the same problem here in Central Florida. Just the other day I saw six men watching one guy in the hole. And, he was just looking down as well and not doing nuttin!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 03:45:12 PM
Sorry for the slow updates on the layout. I've been busy with 1:1 stuff and the layout work. I'm back to being 50 photos behind already but after this post I'll start cropping the photos and get back to posting to this thread,  in an hour or so.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 09, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
Perfect!!!!!!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 09, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
Perfect!!!!!!!!!!   ;D


Dennis,

Okay, let's get this going.  ???

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 04:53:26 PM
Several days ago I started work on the bridge crossing the Big Tahope River.

Here is what I did to make sure the road across the river came together as planned.

I used a small square to draw a vertical line from the outside edge of the roadway. I drew the line down to the river bed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164134.jpeg)

I did the same for the other end.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164151.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 04:55:39 PM
I then used a metal ruler and marked a straight line from one side to the other. Two lines, one for each side of the road.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164208.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164230.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 04:57:27 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164245.jpeg)

I then cut a piece of cardboard the width of the road and laid it in place. NOTE: This is only a template for the road. The road will be made from styrene as shown later in the thread.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164301.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
I then centered the bridge on the template for a test fit. This bridge is an old Kibri railway bridge, one I got off Ebay some 25 years ago for $5.00 + shipping. I don't think it is still made.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164316.jpeg)

I marked the ends of the bridge and cut the right section of the cardboard and used this as the template to cut the Styrene for the road. I used .40" thick Polystyrene.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019170634.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
I scribed the centerline and expansion joints every scale 12 feet.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164329.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164347.jpeg)

Continued, getting a small Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:20:09 PM
I'm using Rix Products early highway overpass kit for the roadway.

The next photo only shows the pillars in place, which aren't glued at this point.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164402.jpeg)

After placing the pillars in place, I realized this narrows the road by 9 scale inches on each side. Meaning the concrete roadway won't match the paved portion of the road. DOH!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164432.jpeg)

Luckily I caught the mistake prior to cutting any other roadway sections.

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:28:10 PM
A new roadway section was cut to the new and correct width.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164417.jpeg)

With this new section in place, it was time to consider how I wanted the bridge to look. At first and for the past several months I was going to post signs that read - "Road narrows at bridge".

Later Monday night, I had an Epithany. I'll just widen the bridge. Only one problem, the bridge is plastic and glued together.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164448.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:32:09 PM
No problem, I'll just deconstruct the bridge. Right?

I started by cutting and removing the top braces.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164500.jpeg)

And then the bottom "X" braces.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164516.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:37:26 PM
I then cut away the bottom horizontal braces.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164533.jpeg)

Parts and pieces and pieces and parts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164619.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:39:09 PM
These tabs needed to be removed.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164548.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164604.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:42:02 PM
You can see how the bridge bottom looks with the tabs removed. The top is finished and the bottom has the tabs still attached.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164633.jpeg)


Two hours later and the second side is finished. The tabs were filed smooth to the bridge sides.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164651.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 09, 2019, 05:44:19 PM
The two sides are now ready to be kit bashed into a roadway bridge.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019164707.jpeg)

Tomorrow I'll show how I did the first section of the road and the start of the bridge kit bash.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on October 09, 2019, 06:17:50 PM
In my best Arte Johnson voice. "veddy interestink und clever too".
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 09, 2019, 06:25:53 PM
Ingenious and great attention to detail Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 09, 2019, 07:00:27 PM
Tom, That is a great idea!!!!!Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 09, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
Hi Tom,
I wish real bridge building was that easy.  Maybe we could get some bridges fixed around town.

Looks good.  Have another Diet Pepsi on me.

;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on October 10, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great so far. I'm following along and can't wait to see the finished product.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Rail and Tie on October 10, 2019, 02:16:00 PM
Watching in Awe!  Love the look of the two styles coming together.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on October 09, 2019, 06:17:50 PM
In my best Arte Johnson voice. "veddy interestink und clever too".


Jerry,

Thank you and in my best voice, "veddy much".  8) 8)

So far this has been a fun build and kit bash.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 09, 2019, 06:25:53 PM
Ingenious and great attention to detail Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend. It really is going to be an interesting section of roadway.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 09, 2019, 07:00:27 PM
Tom, That is a great idea!!!!!Dennis


Dennis,

Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to follow along.

Tom   ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 09, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
Hi Tom,
I wish real bridge building was that easy.  Maybe we could get some bridges fixed around town.

Looks good.  Have another Diet Pepsi on me.

;D ;D 8)


Bruce,

Good to see you again. I work a little faster than the guvment (sp) workers and better as well.

I have a Diet Pepsi as I type this response.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on October 10, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great so far. I'm following along and can't wait to see the finished product.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks, I'm a bit anxious to see the finished bridge also.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: Rail and Tie on October 10, 2019, 02:16:00 PM
Watching in Awe!  Love the look of the two styles coming together.


Darryl,

Appreciate you following along, much appreciated. I think the two styles will compliment each other.  I'm behind in my updates but you'll be able to see how it comes together very soon.

Your post reminds my I have a list of things I want/need to order from you. I'll try to get to the order in the next week or two. Lots going on these days.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:43:16 PM
Bridge work continues on the Atlantic & Southern RR.

The Rix bridge set comes with a deck that is also .40" thick. The reason I used the polystyrene sheet is that I needed a wider piece for the roadway. The Rix roadway piece is a scale 22' wide. I needed mine almost 3' wider.

I removed all the bridge pieces except for the two main sides. I filed cut the tabs off and filed the area smooth.

Not concerned about the flash as it will be covered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153122.jpeg)

To cover the sides and strengthen the bridge sides, I used scale 6X12's in the polystyrene.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-091019170647.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:45:54 PM
The 6X12s were a perfect fit for gluing to the inside of the bridge.

I used Quick Grips to hold the 6X12s in place until the glue dried.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153138.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153153.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:53:25 PM
The bridge is now ready for the next rebuild.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019145802.jpeg)



But the first section of the roadway comes next.

The bridge pillars have small nubs on the bottom side. These need to be filed flat.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152815.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 03:59:16 PM
If you don't file them flat, the photo below shows how they "don't fit" flush on the roadway deck.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152835.jpeg)

I used a small jewelers file to remove the nubs.

I then glued the flat beams to the underside of the roadway and flush with the sides. I drew lines on the underside to guide me in gluing on the "I" beams.



(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152849.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:03:34 PM
I also braced the underside of the roadway with two perpendicular pieces for extra stability of the road.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152936.jpeg)

Now it's time to glue on the pillars. But wait, they don't fit properly either.

The photo below shows how they are supposed to fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153030.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:07:02 PM
I trimmed and filed the bottom of the area as shown at the point of the pencil.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153046.jpeg)

Now they fit together as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153103.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:12:48 PM
Some of the pillar sections are slightly bent. This isn't a big issue but you should be aware of it when gluing them to the roadway.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019153011.jpeg)

Be sure you hold the pillars tight against the edge as you glue them to the roadway.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152952.jpeg)

Back later, need a break.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Oops, sorry, missed a step with photos.

This is how the  "I" beams fit on the bottom.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152905.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019152920.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:42:20 PM
The pillars were glued in place on each side and now the column supports/wedges need to be glued to the underside of each large pillar.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150028.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019164128.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2019, 04:46:16 PM
Now for a test fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150014.jpeg)

Using some old foundation and support beams to hold it in place.

Level is good.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150057.jpeg)

Tomorrow I'll show how I started the bridge supports and how the roadway fits on the bridge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on October 10, 2019, 06:11:36 PM
That concrete bridge work looks great! 

I used end pillars from the same kit to anchor my iron bridge, painted the 'iron' color to match (the rest of the bridge is from a British OO scale kit.)

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 10, 2019, 07:37:54 PM
Very exacting construction Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on October 10, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
ACL 1504,
               Very cool build!  Excellent modeling as usual sir.  I'm watching over your shoulder as you're working. Learning lots!  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on October 11, 2019, 10:27:00 AM
Clever Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on October 11, 2019, 11:43:10 AM
Nice Bridge Tom.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: deemery on October 10, 2019, 06:11:36 PM
That concrete bridge work looks great! 

I used end pillars from the same kit to anchor my iron bridge, painted the 'iron' color to match (the rest of the bridge is from a British OO scale kit.)

dave


Dave,

Thank you. Your bridge is really neat and looks great in that location.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 10, 2019, 07:37:54 PM
Very exacting construction Tom


Curt,

Thanks, it has been fun and very challenging.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: tct855 on October 10, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
ACL 1504,
               Very cool build!  Excellent modeling as usual sir.  I'm watching over your shoulder as you're working. Learning lots!  KP-out...

KPI,

Thank you kind sir. Always good to hear from you. I wondered who was breathing down my neck.  :-X :-X


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on October 11, 2019, 10:27:00 AM
Clever Tom


Hey Jim,


Thank you. This is easier than trying to get the wide road to fit with the narrow bridge.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 11, 2019, 11:43:10 AM
Nice Bridge Tom.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:32:20 PM
I turned my attention next to the bridge construction.

I cut a section of polystyrene the width of the road and wide enough this time to allow for the pillars.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019145839.jpeg)

It will fit on the inside edges of the bridge as shown below. The base of the pillars, when installed, will fit onto the white polystyrene strips I glued to the inside of the bridge sides.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019145900.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:33:43 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019145915.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019145929.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:46:04 PM
I then measured carefully or carefully measured, maybe both, the width I needed the bridge to be. I did this several times and constantly checked to make sure I got it right.

When satisfied, I then cut some scale 12 X 12s for the bridge frame base. I started in the middle and then each end. Although I made sure the bridge was square, I found as the glue dried, the bridge became unsquare by 1/32".

I found this out when I test fit the roadway base on the inside of the bridge.

I fixed this by clamping a metal square to the bridge and gluing in a 12 X 12 on each end.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150130.jpeg)

Fast forward saving you from looking at 20 more pictures of each gusset plate cut and glued in place.

I didn't care what the gussets looked like as they won't be seen. I just wanted to get them in place to ensure a strong bridge roadway base.



(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150203.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:49:49 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150227.jpeg)


I then glued the pillars to each side. I made sure they were up against the styrene sheet as I glued the in place. As this section is going on the bridge base, I didn't need to glue the wedges to the side and under each large pillar.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150244.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 03:53:29 PM
The roadway now slides or just drops onto the bridge as shown.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150300.jpeg)

I designed it this way for painting purposes. The bridge will be painted silver and the roadway section concrete. A bit to difficult to paint the two with them glued together.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150315.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 04:10:22 PM
Here is how the first two sections of the bridge looks in place. They are just sitting on what I could find to hold them up.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150411.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150327.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 04:11:12 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150340.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101019150355.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 04:13:27 PM
I still need to finish the top of the steel bridge. That will come later next week.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111019161213.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111019161225.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 11, 2019, 04:14:13 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111019161239.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111019161250.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 11, 2019, 06:38:41 PM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! What Beautiful and quick job......Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 11, 2019, 07:21:00 PM
Very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 11, 2019, 07:40:05 PM
Tom, What era are you modeling ? Thanks Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on October 11, 2019, 08:40:28 PM
Looking great, Tom.

Enjoying your skills - as always. 

I do have to admit - I am partial to one lane road bridges, even more so to shared rail and road bridges.

Looking forward to you continued progress.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 11, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
Awesome work as usual Tom.  The bridge looks fantastic.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on October 12, 2019, 10:31:10 AM
Two thumbs up!   :)  Looks terrific.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on October 12, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
The bridges look great Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on October 12, 2019, 04:49:16 PM
Tom, I don't know whether you are the Energizer Bunny now or Karl, but maybe both of you. But this is the makings of a really nice scene, that is fitting with your layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on October 13, 2019, 01:03:36 AM
I really like all those Bridges.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 13, 2019, 10:30:52 AM
What Jim said..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on October 13, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
This Jim also said. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 13, 2019, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on October 13, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
This Jim also said. Jim


Okay.....what Jim, Jim & Bob said..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 11, 2019, 06:38:41 PM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! What Beautiful and quick job......Dennis


Dennis,

Thank you, much appreciate you following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 11, 2019, 07:21:00 PM
Very nice Tom.


Thank you Curt.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 11, 2019, 07:40:05 PM
Tom, What era are you modeling ? Thanks Dennis

Dennis,

Late 1940's to late 1955. Although I have some freight cars with build dates of 1956. I like the cars so they stay.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:56:08 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on October 11, 2019, 08:40:28 PM
Looking great, Tom.

Enjoying your skills - as always. 

I do have to admit - I am partial to one lane road bridges, even more so to shared rail and road bridges.

Looking forward to you continued progress.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

Thank you very much. I wanted to keep the bridge as a single with very narrow roadway traffic. But this method was much faster and looks fine. I was looking forward to printing a sign that read, "Road narrows at bridge".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 11, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
Awesome work as usual Tom.  The bridge looks fantastic.

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

Than you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 12, 2019, 10:31:10 AM
Two thumbs up!   :)  Looks terrific.   ;)


Bob,


Thank you, much appreciated. This has been fun.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 05:58:13 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on October 12, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
The bridges look great Tom!


John,


Thank you kind sire for the compliment.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: sdrees on October 12, 2019, 04:49:16 PM
Tom, I don't know whether you are the Energizer Bunny now or Karl, but maybe both of you. But this is the makings of a really nice scene, that is fitting with your layout.

Steve,

I believe Karl is much faster than MOI! I think this bridge will be a focal point on the river.

I tend to work full speed at stages and other times not so much. What looks like fast work is just me getting caught up on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:02:29 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 13, 2019, 01:03:36 AM
I really like all those Bridges.

Jim


Jim,


Thank you my friend. Feel free to travel them when I finish.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 13, 2019, 10:30:52 AM
What Jim said..... 8)


Greg,

What I said to Jim above and soon to the other Jim below.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on October 13, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
This Jim also said. Jim


Jim,

Thank you as well and what I said to the other Jim above.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 13, 2019, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on October 13, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
This Jim also said. Jim


Okay.....what Jim, Jim & Bob said..... 8)


Thanks for what all, ya'll  said.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:11:22 PM
As many of you know, I've been helping Bill and Kris Cutler remove and sell most of their Pennsy roster, structures, and various other railroad related items.

I'll be taking the next week off from posting to my layout thread. However, I'm still working on the layout and bridge.  I'll be posting updates in about 8 days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 13, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
Tom, Thank you and good luck.............Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 14, 2019, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 13, 2019, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on October 13, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
This Jim also said. Jim


Okay.....what Jim, Jim & Bob said..... 8)


Thanks for what all, ya'll  said.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D


Now I'm really confused..... ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2019, 08:34:20 AM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 13, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
Tom, Thank you and good luck.............Dennis


Dennis,

Getting it all organized is the main focal point now.

Thank you.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 14, 2019, 08:35:52 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 14, 2019, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 13, 2019, 06:06:02 PM


Thanks for what all, ya'll  said.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D


Now I'm really confused..... ???


Yepper, It doesn't take much does it?  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on October 18, 2019, 06:30:16 AM
Just catching up on your progress.  Looking good Tom!! 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on October 18, 2019, 06:13:00 PM
Hey Tom:

All I can say i WOW on the bridge. It looks just beautiful so far.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: MAP on October 18, 2019, 06:30:16 AM
Just catching up on your progress.  Looking good Tom!!


Mark,

Thank you, happy you stopped by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2019, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on October 18, 2019, 06:13:00 PM
Hey Tom:

All I can say i WOW on the bridge. It looks just beautiful so far.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you as well. Appreciate you stopping by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2019, 06:49:55 PM
The bridge work continues and much progress was made over the past few days. Not sure how many photos I took but there are many.

Some photos and an update tomorrow afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 19, 2019, 09:52:21 PM
Yo Tom,
I took this photo at the national train show in Salt Lake earlier this year.  Maybe if you need another idea for an industry on the RR, you could build one of theses.  Cheers!

Cousin Brucie

8) 8) :o

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 08:37:19 AM
Cousin Brucie,

Great photo of a nice High Rail layout. A bit to modern for me but I love the subject matter.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 20, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 08:37:19 AM
Cousin Brucie,

Great photo of a nice High Rail layout. A bit to modern for me but I love the subject matter.

Tom  ;D

I was only able to go down for the national train show this year.   When I saw this model at the show I thought Tom has got to see this!  At least the citizen of that railroad don't have to worry about running out of Pepsi.

Cousin Brucie, The Pepsi Kid
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 03:52:24 PM
Cousin Brucie,

At least you were able to get to that one. Looks like a great show.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:01:35 PM
Prior to additional work on the bridge I needed to do a little house cleaning.

I started with my work area and moved next to the desk.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155319.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155334.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:02:57 PM
After a few hours, success!

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155402.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155348.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:06:46 PM
The photo below shows a support brace for the top of the old bridge.

I cut these in half at the gap but no photo was taken.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155415.jpeg)

The gray piece in the upper part of the next photo came off the top as well. I was gong to make three from the Central Valley parts, shown in black.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155430.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:15:28 PM
I then remembered when I removed the old layout, I kept a few of the old viaduct supports I made using Central Valley parts.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155445.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155529.jpeg)

Back in a few, time for a cold one. Diet Pepsi of course.   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:17:41 PM
Using a #17 Xacto blade, I made quick the disassembly.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155459.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155543.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:21:11 PM
These were the parts I was after.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155516.jpeg)

I'll use three, one in the middle and one on each side of the middle. I wanted to use one for two braces but they were only long enough for one girder brace.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155556.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:24:05 PM
Using the Micro Mark mitre box and fine tooth Xacto saw blade, I cut three to length.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155610.jpeg)

I first glued the top/center piece in place and made sure it was level.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155623.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:26:02 PM
Yep, it's level.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155636.jpeg)

I also made sure they were all square to both sides of the bridge.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155649.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2019, 04:31:21 PM
When those three braces were glued in place and thoroughly dry, I then glued one half of the support I previously cut in half to the inside.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155702.jpeg)

One side was glued and let dry overnight. I used small squares to make sure they were properly aligned.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155715.jpeg)

I'll have more of the bridge construction late tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on October 20, 2019, 07:53:35 PM
Tom,

As usual, great concept and even better execution.  You should have been in the bridge building business!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 21, 2019, 07:53:57 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on October 20, 2019, 07:53:35 PM
Tom,

As usual, great concept and even better execution.  You should have been in the bridge building business!


Jerry,

Thank you for the very kind and generous compliment. As for making a living at bridge building, TOO MUCH MATH involved.

In HO scale it all works.  ;D ;D ;D



Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on October 21, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
An excellent demonstration of why you never burn (or discard) your bridges behind you.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 21, 2019, 03:07:39 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on October 21, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
An excellent demonstration of why you never burn (or discard) your bridges behind you.


Chip,

You are absolutely correct. And, may I add that you should never burn your bridges unless you are a damn good swimmer.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on October 21, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Or, like some of us, can walk on water.
No blasphemy intended.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on October 22, 2019, 12:27:23 PM
Bear Bryant could do that.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on October 21, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Or, like some of us, can walk on water.
No blasphemy intended.


Chip,



I did read one man did just that some 2000 years ago.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on October 22, 2019, 12:27:23 PM
Bear Bryant could do that.


Larry,

Only to Bama fans, not us Gators.  8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:10:40 PM
I finished both sides of the half supports by gluing them in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201019155728.jpeg)

In order to join the two pieces, I glued in a strip of styrene and used clothes pins to hold the two pieces together while the glue dried.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160037.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
Next I started to glue in some diagonal braces.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160100.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160242.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:13:53 PM
Well, you get the idea. Here is the bridge with all the diagonal braces glued in place.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160316.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160258.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:39:53 PM
I then cut gusset plates for the top.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160349.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160407.jpeg)

I still need to cut six gussets for the underside.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
The two pieces cut for the end braces need to be covered.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160437.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160451.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:45:08 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160510.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019164424.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:47:59 PM
I made a simple box for the end support. I forgot to take a few photos of the process.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160116.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160550.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 04:52:07 PM
Time to make a few bridge and roadway supports. I used the Rix Products for the supports.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160133.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160533.jpeg)

More on the bridge in tomorrows update.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on October 22, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)

I don't think it will be a problem as long as the rider can get his bicycle up to "Greg Speed"!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)


Greg,

No problem, come to think of it, you will be the first to know. The President and CEO of the A&S has decided to give you the honors of being the first vehicular traffic on the bridge. You can ride you tricycle up and down all you want.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on October 22, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)

I don't think it will be a problem as long as the rider can get his bicycle up to "Greg Speed"!


Jerry,

Yea, I want to see him get up to "Greg Speed" on the trike.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 22, 2019, 07:24:40 PM
Very nice job on the bridge Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on October 23, 2019, 12:39:03 AM
Looking great, Tom.

Cheers, Mark
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on October 23, 2019, 08:30:25 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)


Greg,

No problem, come to think of it, you will be the first to know. The President and CEO of the A&S has decided to give you the honors of being the first vehicular traffic on the bridge. You can ride you tricycle up and down all you want.

Tom  ;D


Sounds like a plan Tom.....anybody got one of those big wheels I could borrow.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 23, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on October 23, 2019, 02:33:05 PM
Hey Tom:

Can't wait to see that bridge installed on The RR. It looks just great.

karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 22, 2019, 07:24:40 PM
Very nice job on the bridge Tom.

Curt,

Thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on October 23, 2019, 12:39:03 AM
Looking great, Tom.

Cheers, Mark


Mark,

Thank you as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 23, 2019, 08:30:25 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 22, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 22, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
Hey Tom.....keep us posted on how the bridge holds up after the first guy on a bicycle goes over it.  ::)


Greg,

No problem, come to think of it, you will be the first to know. The President and CEO of the A&S has decided to give you the honors of being the first vehicular traffic on the bridge. You can ride you tricycle up and down all you want.

Tom  ;D


Sounds like a plan Tom.....anybody got one of those big wheels I could borrow.  ;D

Greg, 

I saw one at a yard sale last week but I didn't stop.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 23, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Yepper, just what Greg needs for the bridge ride.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on October 23, 2019, 02:33:05 PM
Hey Tom:

Can't wait to see that bridge installed on The RR. It looks just great.

karl


Karl,

Thank you, I'm looking forward to it as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:35:29 PM
Okay,

I got the bridge level using the two bridge supports.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160610.jpeg)

This is where it got a little tricksie. I needed to make a new one at the height of the fill in shown below.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160626.jpeg)

I also needed to make one for the steel roadway bridge. And, they needed to be side by side. If you refer to the above photo, you'll see the support doesn't cover the bottom of the roadway portion.

The steel bridge section is at a different height than the concrete portion.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:46:23 PM
The bridge supports need to be perpendicular to the flow of water. Here is how I solved the problem.

I made one support for the roadway section. As you can see in the next photo, the columns are to high when compared to the the support that fits against the south wall.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-221019160721.jpeg)

I measured how much needed to be cut off. I drew a pencil line at the mark and cut all the columns at the shorter height.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182027.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:53:51 PM
Unfortunately for this update I neglected to take photos of the new support. Again, I'm using the Rix Products for the supports.

Moving on, I built the second support that will support the steel bridge. You can see that to span the steel bridge, I needed to make a larger base. I used Evergreen styrene to make the box for the top support.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182046.jpeg)

I couldn't get the the two supports aligned next to each other. They are at two different levels. I built a "blank" bottom support and glued it between the other two supports. This solved the problem.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182108.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:57:05 PM
You can see the "blank" support in the following photo. The three are now one support.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182126.jpeg)

Here is how it looks with just the concrete roadway in place. It is also perpendicular to the river flow.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182142.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 06:59:47 PM

After seeing the next two photos, I realized I neglected to make the steel bridge at the height so I could use bridge footers. Not gong to worry about it now.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182200.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182219.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 07:10:20 PM
I needed to make a water diversion for the base of the supports. If not, the water flow will beat at the flat side and wash the river bottom away from the base. This would be a disaster for the Tahope County Commission.

I cut a piece of styrene and then marked on base a center line. It doesn't have to actually be centered but it needs to be square to the base.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182237.jpeg)

I then glued the styrene to the base using the pencil line and the bottom of the base as a guide.

This next step is important. I then glued the other end to the edge of the first end and made sure it was tight against each other.

When using this method DO NOT GLUE THE STYRENE TO THE OTHER SIDE YET.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182250.jpeg)

Continued -



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 07:14:20 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182306.jpeg)


The reason I didn't glue the other side to the base is so I could "eyeball" the amount of curve on each end to get is as even as possible.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182320.jpeg)

When satisfied with the two ends, I tacked some glue on the edges to hold it in place. I then added more glue and weights to hold it until dry.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182337.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 23, 2019, 07:16:06 PM
This one is now finished. One more to go.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182422.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231019182438.jpeg)





Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Pretty Impressive Uncle Tommie

8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 23, 2019, 07:52:13 PM
I agree that this is impressive Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
BTW, with this recent spurt of activity on the railroad it begs the question be asked,

Tom, are you drinking more Diet Pepsi these days?

Inquiring minds want to know

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on October 23, 2019, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 23, 2019, 07:52:13 PM
I agree that this is impressive Tom.

What Curt said.  Doubled

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Pretty Impressive Uncle Tommie

8) 8) 8)


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you very much.

UT ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:40:59 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 23, 2019, 07:52:13 PM
I agree that this is impressive Tom.


Curt,

Thank you as well. You'll see it up close on your next visit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
BTW, with this recent spurt of activity on the railroad it begs the question be asked,

Tom, are you drinking more Diet Pepsi these days?

Inquiring minds want to know

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

No, actually I'm still only doing 2-3 a day with a lot of water in between. In fact I have a water now. The spurts of activity come when I don't post everyday and then have 40+ photos to share. I need to get back to daily updates.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on October 23, 2019, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 23, 2019, 07:52:13 PM
I agree that this is impressive Tom.

What Curt said.  Doubled

Jim


Butty Jim,

What I said to Curt above.  8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:51:01 PM
Bridge work continues over the Big Tahope. Those update aren't ready for prime time yet.

Kris Cutler, our resident arborist gifted me most if not all the trees formerly growing on the Pennsy.

I took a break from bridge work and added a few Fall colors to the North Sanlando area including Eaton's Curve. I'll show some before and after photos.

Thank you so very much Kristina!

Trees left of Sinner's Mill.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165605.jpeg)

New trees added.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165626.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:54:04 PM
Red flowering tree added to North Sanlando.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165641.jpeg)

Before photo north of Varrick Freight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165655.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:55:31 PM
Same basic area after new trees added.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165709.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:57:20 PM
Eaton's Curve before.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165729.jpeg)

Same after.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165742.jpeg)



Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:59:06 PM
Cracker houses at Eaton's Curve.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165812.jpeg)

The two dark green pines are Sterling trees.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165836.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 06:01:31 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165852.jpeg)


Corn field and woods - before.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165906.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
To the right of the corn field with Hwy 441 -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165921.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281019165938.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on October 28, 2019, 06:14:54 PM
Tom,

There is so much construction going on the A&S layout that I forget to look back and see how much you have already finished.  These photos really show how amazing your scenery was originally, now you make it even better.  Love that red tree in North Sanlando.  Absolutely stunning!   Thanks again for sharing!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 28, 2019, 06:43:05 PM
The trees look great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on October 28, 2019, 08:37:33 PM
Oh , getting better and better , great trees .
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on October 28, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
The addition of the trees look really great Tom.  I like the way you have varied the different type of trees and vegetation on your layout.  Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 28, 2019, 09:32:55 PM
It's picture perfect..............Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on October 28, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
Tom


Fantastic scenes. Your layout just keeps getting better and better. Great work my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on October 28, 2019, 10:25:04 PM
Hi Tom;

Hopefully this will post.  I have just been catching up, really looks nice. Moreover lots of great pointers and ideas, thanks for sharing.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on October 29, 2019, 05:59:12 AM
Ive always thought modeling fall colors is the most dangerous trap for us...but I love how you've added subtle bits of color (must be a native Floridian ;D ). Perfect! It really adds a nice touch visitors might not even be able to put their finger on. Well done!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on October 29, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
BTW, with this recent spurt of activity on the railroad it begs the question be asked,

Tom, are you drinking more Diet Pepsi these days?

Inquiring minds want to know

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

No, actually I'm still only doing 2-3 a day with a lot of water in between. In fact I have a water now. The spurts of activity come when I don't post everyday and then have 40+ photos to share. I need to get back to daily updates.

Tom  ;D

Boy, I hear you.  Posting on forum threads does take alot of time.  For what its worth, I am off of the Diet Pepsi these days.  Another change that had to be made in an attempt to get my health back. 

Shocking news isn't it?

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on October 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
The additional colors really make for a nice change to the overall appearance.  Looks great!   :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on October 28, 2019, 06:14:54 PM
Tom,

There is so much construction going on the A&S layout that I forget to look back and see how much you have already finished.  These photos really show how amazing your scenery was originally, now you make it even better.  Love that red tree in North Sanlando.  Absolutely stunning!   Thanks again for sharing!


Jerry,

I try to stay busy with several different projects going at one time. The red tree in North Sandlando is in the perfect spot. In Florida, we don't have the Fall Season of Colors as the North but we do have trees here that change slightly and bloom with yellow and red flowers.

Thank you for the very generous and kind compliment on the layout and scenery.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 28, 2019, 06:43:05 PM
The trees look great.


Curt,

Thank you, appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on October 28, 2019, 08:37:33 PM
Oh , getting better and better , great trees .


Jan,

Thank you, Kris Cutler did a fantastic job making all the wonderful trees. She gets all the credit for the new scenery look.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: sdrees on October 28, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
The addition of the trees look really great Tom.  I like the way you have varied the different type of trees and vegetation on your layout.  Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Steve,

Thank you very much. I'm very thankful I was gifted the trees for planting on the A&S System.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on October 28, 2019, 09:32:55 PM
It's picture perfect..............Dennis


Dennis,

A perfect picture and compliment, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on October 28, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
Tom


Fantastic scenes. Your layout just keeps getting better and better. Great work my friend.





John,

Thank you my friend, very much appreciated. As we all say, the layout is never finished, only improved.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:10:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on October 28, 2019, 10:25:04 PM
Hi Tom;

Hopefully this will post.  I have just been catching up, really looks nice. Moreover lots of great pointers and ideas, thanks for sharing.

Jim D

Jim,

Yes, it did and thank you for being a follower on this adventure. You are very welcome for the sharing. It helps to keep me going as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: cuse on October 29, 2019, 05:59:12 AM
Ive always thought modeling fall colors is the most dangerous trap for us...but I love how you've added subtle bits of color (must be a native Floridian ;D ). Perfect! It really adds a nice touch visitors might not even be able to put their finger on. Well done!


John


John,

You are correct about modeling Fall colors, especially in the South. I agree with you in that the secret is the subtleness of the color blend. Thanks for checking in Butty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 29, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 28, 2019, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on October 23, 2019, 07:54:26 PM
BTW, with this recent spurt of activity on the railroad it begs the question be asked,

Tom, are you drinking more Diet Pepsi these days?

Inquiring minds want to know

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

No, actually I'm still only doing 2-3 a day with a lot of water in between. In fact I have a water now. The spurts of activity come when I don't post everyday and then have 40+ photos to share. I need to get back to daily updates.

Tom  ;D

Boy, I hear you.  Posting on forum threads does take alot of time.  For what its worth, I am off of the Diet Pepsi these days.  Another change that had to be made in an attempt to get my health back. 

Shocking news isn't it?

:o :o :o


Cousin Brucie,

No, not really shocking but I believe it's a great idea until you get the other issues under control.

I'm still only drinking two or less a day. Not sure if it's me or not drinking the DP but I feel better as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
The additional colors really make for a nice change to the overall appearance.  Looks great!   :D


Bob,

Thank you and I agree. The additional colors really changed the look of each scene. Now to do the entire East side of the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:23:08 PM
Now, I need to let ya'll know I'm not the great bridge builder you gave me credit for.

This next photo says it all - The bridge and road don't line up.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175726.jpeg)

The bridge and road are a HO scale 5 feet off.

Come to think of it, not my fault, it's the damn surveyor's fault. I built it to the correct specifications, per the bridge blue prints.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
I'm thinking at this point it will be easier to get the radway crew to realign the road vs. realigning the bridge. Dang surveyor. I bet he works for one of those bums in the Bottoms. There must be a Saturday Report in this one.

The bridge works continues at this point and the road will have to wait until the bridge is finished and in place.

The concrete slab on the bridge roadway is now poured and cured.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175750.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:30:22 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175809.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175825.jpeg)

I'll show how the roadway was re-surveyed and realigned in a later thread post.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on November 02, 2019, 01:28:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjOH7WeEKk  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on November 02, 2019, 08:50:50 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.  The scene with the new tress beautifully done.


The road and bridge someone needs to be fired for this!!  ;)


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2019, 09:05:26 AM
Stuff happens  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on November 02, 2019, 10:12:37 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 01, 2019, 06:23:08 PM
Now, I need to let ya'll know I'm not the great bridge builder you gave me credit for.

This next photo says it all - The bridge and road don't line up.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175726.jpeg)

The bridge and road are a HO scale 5 feet off.

Come to think of it, not my fault, it's the damn surveyor's fault. I built it to the correct specifications, per the bridge blue prints.

Continued -

Maybe this will just give the Judge a chance  to tell us a story about the road surveyor crews in you area.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 02, 2019, 11:41:54 AM
I think this is nothing more than a mis-calculation of the Tangential Isosceles that appears in all Bridge Construction done after the idea has gelled.  A possible re-do of your concrete composition in the closest road may need to be looked at for a possible positive conclusion.

Don't be afraid of the Dark Arts.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 02, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
It looks to be another government job - over budget and over schedule.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 02, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
Earthquake?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 02, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 02, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
Earthquake?

Too Simple  8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: tct855 on November 02, 2019, 01:28:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjOH7WeEKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjOH7WeEKk)  KP-out...


KP,


Thank you DV.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Jerry on November 02, 2019, 08:50:50 AM
Tom just getting caught up again.  The scene with the new tress beautifully done.


The road and bridge someone needs to be fired for this!!  ;)




Jerry,

Thank you for the compliment. I'd like to fire myself but I can't take the time off.   8)


However, I will find someone to blame it on.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:35:41 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2019, 09:05:26 AM
Stuff happens  :)


Curt,



Yes, it surely do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on November 02, 2019, 10:12:37 AM


Maybe this will just give the Judge a chance  to tell us a story about the road surveyor crews in you area.


I'm counting on it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 02, 2019, 11:41:54 AM
I think this is nothing more than a mis-calculation of the Tangential Isosceles that appears in all Bridge Construction done after the idea has gelled.  A possible re-do of your concrete composition in the closest road may need to be looked at for a possible positive conclusion.

Don't be afraid of the Dark Arts.

Jim

Jim,

Yea, a miscalculation of the isosceles triangle for sure. I guess I should have paid more attention in calculus class.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 02, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
It looks to be another government job - over budget and over schedule.  >:( >:( >:(


Greg,

Possibly so. However, I didn't see the other five government workers standing around while I did all the work.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 02, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
Earthquake?


Mark,

I like the idea, but alas, tis not so.  :'(


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 02, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 02, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
Earthquake?

Too Simple  8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim


Jim,

Wow, twice in one day! I like it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
The bridge is almost finished but I need to fix the roadway now.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172204.jpeg)

I planned on cutting off one side and adding to the other. I decided this would look half ass so decided against it.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011119175853.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:53:10 PM
I measured back to where the slight curve in the road starts and made a cut.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172249.jpeg)

I then removed the entire section including the pink foam.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172306.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:54:29 PM
A new foam piece was cut to fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172321.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172335.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:56:05 PM
I then used Elmer's White Glue to glue it in place.

Weights were added and then let it dry overnight.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021119172348.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on November 02, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
If you can't take Mohammed to the mountain, bring the mountain to Mohammed. 


(Actually, you apparently flunked trigonometry, long before you got to calculus :-) :-) )


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 08:20:33 AM
Quote from: deemery on November 02, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
If you can't take Mohammed to the mountain, bring the mountain to Mohammed. 


(Actually, you apparently flunked trigonometry, long before you got to calculus :-) :-) )


dave


Dave,

Advanced Algebra A, I escaped Trig with a C and Calculus was a waste of time for me and my prof.

Just saying.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on November 03, 2019, 08:35:11 AM
Good work Tom. Just a small engineering change. It's hard to get good help these days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 03, 2019, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 02, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
It looks to be another government job - over budget and over schedule.  >:( >:( >:(


Greg,

Possibly so. However, I didn't see the other five government workers standing around while I did all the work.

Tom  ;D


They were probably in the shady bar down the street checking out the suds and broads..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on November 03, 2019, 08:35:11 AM
Good work Tom. Just a small engineering change. It's hard to get good help these days.


John,

Thank you, appreciate the comment. Also, if I paid myself, I'd be fired a long time ago.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 03, 2019, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 02, 2019, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 02, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
It looks to be another government job - over budget and over schedule.  >:( >:( >:(


Greg,

Possibly so. However, I didn't see the other five government workers standing around while I did all the work.

Tom  ;D


They were probably in the shady bar down the street checking out the suds and broads..... ;)

Greg,

They probably were at the trackside tavern.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:39:27 PM
A new roadway was cut to replace the one removed. I first marked on the road base the width of the bridge road portion.

I drew a straight line from the bridge road along the road base.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143446.jpeg)

I did the same on the opposite end.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143433.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:42:50 PM
The two lines came together at the X.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143418.jpeg)

I then used a 36" radius tool and aligned each end with the pencil lines.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143515.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:47:23 PM
Using the radius tool as a guide, I drew a pencil line along the outside edge.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143500.jpeg)


This gives me the natural curve of the road. I did the same on the opposite side of the road. I used an Xacto knife with #11 blade and free hand cut on the pencil lines.

Here is how it looks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143528.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2019, 02:49:20 PM
Applied some white glue and placed the road on the foam using traced pencil lines to align the road on both ends.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143542.jpeg)

Here we go again with the weights. I let this dry overnight as well.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-031119143555.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on November 03, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
Shows us even the best can err now and then.   Nice recovery.  Great that you shared the entire situation with us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on November 03, 2019, 08:45:28 PM
Tom,

I actually like the road better now with the slight curve.  I know it ended up being extra work, but looks to me like a happy accident.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on November 04, 2019, 07:26:41 AM
Roads often have jogs next to river crossings from building a new bridge next to the old one.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on November 04, 2019, 08:58:06 AM
Hey Tom:

Looking good. I'm following along.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 04, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
Looks just like the Old Road was never moved.  Great job Tom.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 04, 2019, 06:36:18 PM
Nice fix, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on November 03, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
Shows us even the best can err now and then.   Nice recovery.  Great that you shared the entire situation with us.


Larry,

Thanks for stopping by. Yes, I've made a few, okay several, mistakes overtime. I believe sharing the good and the bad or mistakes makes us all better modelers.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 03, 2019, 08:45:28 PM
Tom,

I actually like the road better now with the slight curve.  I know it ended up being extra work, but looks to me like a happy accident.


Jerry,

Thank you. I do as well. It just looks better now. Who would think a mistake would turned out for the better.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: jbvb on November 04, 2019, 07:26:41 AM
Roads often have jogs next to river crossings from building a new bridge next to the old one.


James,

I agree and have seen plenty in my travels. Appreciate you checking in for a comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on November 04, 2019, 08:58:06 AM
Hey Tom:

Looking good. I'm following along.

Karl

Karl,

Thank you, very much appreciate you following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 04, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
Looks just like the Old Road was never moved.  Great job Tom.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Thank you for stopping by and for the compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 04, 2019, 06:36:18 PM
Nice fix, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Thank you. It turned out better than expected.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:34:56 PM
I sealed the cardboard road with full strength white glue and let it dry overnight. Sealing the road will prevent it from coming up or warping later when wet scenery is applied to the edges.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119150816.jpeg)

The next morning I painted the road with full strength Floquil Guilford Gray. What you see is actually the second coat of gray paint.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119150831.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on November 05, 2019, 03:41:44 PM
So Tom, the screw up ended up making the scene more interesting.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:43:51 PM
A couple of months ago, I sold EricQuebec a FSM kit he was looking for. That started me thinking that I didn't really need the money as much as I needed the space under the layout.

I emailed Eric and posed a solution that would save him some money and I'd get something in return. That something was in the way of Eric building two small Bar Mills kits for the Atlantic and Southern RR or System as the Judge reports.

This way Eric saves a good chunk of $$ and I get to have the honor of two of his builds on my layout.

I sent Eric Honest Joe's Pawn & Loan and O'Douls flop House.

Needless to say I now have two fantastic structures to add to the structures that will occupy real estate in Tahope.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105825.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105840.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:44:43 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105854.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105909.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:45:30 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105925.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:45:52 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105938.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119105953.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:14 PM
This sign is fantastic.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119110014.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:36 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119110150.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:47:56 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119110203.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: sdrees on November 05, 2019, 03:41:44 PM
So Tom, the screw up ended up making the scene more interesting.


Steve,

Yes, I wish I could say it was done on purpose. I do like it better this way.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 05, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
Kudo's to EricQuebec on two outstanding builds!   :D  :D  :D 

I love that sign.  It may be a challenge to position that one so the view of the sign isn't obstructed but I know you'll figure it out.  Can't wait to see them in person (but can't make down for at least a few more weeks  :( ).
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2019, 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 05, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
Kudo's to EricQuebec on two outstanding builds!   :D :D :D 

I love that sign.  It may be a challenge to position that one so the view of the sign isn't obstructed but I know you'll figure it out.  Can't wait to see them in person (but can't make down for at least a few more weeks  :( ).

Bob,

Eric did a wonderful job on both for sure. Not to worry about coming down, my door is always open to you Butty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 05, 2019, 04:42:05 PM
Great work Eric..... 8)  Neat addition to the ole' A&S..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 05, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Excellent modeling Eric. They will look great on the A&S RR.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on November 05, 2019, 06:43:47 PM
That is two fantastic builds by Eric to add to the beautiful Berg of Tahope.

My compliments to Eric on the great Job.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: EricQuebec on November 05, 2019, 08:07:53 PM
Thank you very much for your good comments about this two building.
At the begin of this story, I was very surprised and honoured by the proposition of Tom.
I have a good time to build them like it was for me (in this project Tom let me totally free to do what I want), and the two kit are very funny to do (the O'douls flop house was a little bit more hard due to some little imperfection in the enginiering of the kit).
For the ads, I've paint it with the stencil method, and I've try for the first time the modge podge transfert medium, as explain by Karl O in an other thread on an other forum.

Tom : I'm happy to constat the building have not be damaged during the travel from Quebec to Florida. For the futur, If you want I build other kit for you, just contact me in privat, I will be very happy to do it just for the fun to do something for your layout.
Eric
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on November 05, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
The two buildings will make great additions to downtown Tahope.  Eric is quite the artist.  Excellent work and workmanship.  I can't wait until Saturday to give them a closer inspection!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 05, 2019, 11:33:17 PM
Looks like pretty good value for money to me Tom!  Nice work Eric!

I especially like the flop house.  All those porches and stairways make for some nice detail.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on November 07, 2019, 05:59:58 AM
Really great builds of those kits Eric!  The weathering is great and the signs are super.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 05, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
Kudo's to EricQuebec on two outstanding builds!   :D :D :D 

I love that sign.  It may be a challenge to position that one so the view of the sign isn't obstructed but I know you'll figure it out.  Can't wait to see them in person (but can't make down for at least a few more weeks  :( ).


Bob,

I have a place or two the flop house may fit. Although this is a building flat, it can also be one room apts.

See ya in a couple weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on November 05, 2019, 08:07:53 PM
Thank you very much for your good comments about this two building.
At the begin of this story, I was very surprised and honoured by the proposition of Tom.
I have a good time to build them like it was for me (in this project Tom let me totally free to do what I want), and the two kit are very funny to do (the O'douls flop house was a little bit more hard due to some little imperfection in the enginiering of the kit).
For the ads, I've paint it with the stencil method, and I've try for the first time the modge podge transfert medium, as explain by Karl O in an other thread on an other forum.

Tom : I'm happy to constat the building have not be damaged during the travel from Quebec to Florida. For the futur, If you want I build other kit for you, just contact me in privat, I will be very happy to do it just for the fun to do something for your layout.
Eric


Eric,

Yes, you did such a fine job with the packing not a single board was loose. However, I think US Customs opened the box as it was partially open when delivered and the tape had been redone.

I'll go through my stash and send you a PM.

Again, these are just wonderful.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Judge on November 05, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
The two buildings will make great additions to downtown Tahope.  Eric is quite the artist.  Excellent work and workmanship.  I can't wait until Saturday to give them a closer inspection!


Bill,

These two are very well done. As Eric said, I told him to build them as he saw fit. All I need to do now is add the details he included (came with the kit) and add LEDs.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 05, 2019, 11:33:17 PM
Looks like pretty good value for money to me Tom!  Nice work Eric!

I especially like the flop house.  All those porches and stairways make for some nice detail.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Eric thinks he got a bargain and I think I got the bargain so we both are happy.

The main reason I got the kit was for the three story porches and stairs.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:48:02 PM
I have a little scenery update. I'll share what I did in this section which is the Barlow's Smokehouse Curve. The track then crosses the Suwannee River Lagoon.

After this addition to the thread, I won't be posting an update for every three to four feet of upgraded scenery. I will share some scenery photos that I believed are super worthy.

I continued with a few of Kris Cutler's beautiful trees.

Barlow's Curve before -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119150907.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119150923.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:50:12 PM
Barlow's Curve after additional scenery and trees.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119150939.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151006.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
I attempt to use all material I have available. This includes what I call "tree dandruff".

These are the broken branches and tree limbs I find in the bottom of muy scenery boxes. If I can't make a small tree from a broken branch, I'll push/pull off the leaves and smaller branches for ground cover.

Here is a small container of my "tree dandruff."

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151021.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:56:30 PM
I wanted to upgrade the scenery between the track on the left and the dirt road on the right.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151049.jpeg)

I pulled off what I could.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151104.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 03:59:41 PM
I then applied some white glue to the area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151120.jpeg)

I then used some tree dandruff and pushed it into the white glue.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151134.jpeg)

When that dried, I sprayed the material with wet water and then added matte medium to hold it all in place.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 04:01:37 PM
Again, before -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151049.jpeg)

And after -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151134.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 04:03:22 PM
I did the same around the curve.

Before -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151149.jpeg)

After -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151218.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 04:04:50 PM
Couple extra pictures.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151035.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051119151203.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 07, 2019, 04:07:49 PM
I just realized this last set of photos put me over 4,900 pictures I've uploaded to the three parts of the A&S build thread.

WHEW! :P
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 07, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
Looks great Tom. Can't wait to see everything on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on November 07, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
Hey Tom:

It's looking just beautiful.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on November 08, 2019, 06:12:05 AM
Nice scenery re-fresh Tom!  Amazing what a little bit of scenery "scraps" can do to a scene.  4900 pics?   :o Wow!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 08, 2019, 06:55:17 AM
I thought it looked great before but wow!   :o  What a difference!  Love it. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on November 08, 2019, 09:43:31 AM
Fantastic work Tom.  Every layer makes a BIG difference. I "Love it", too.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on November 08, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
Tom beautiful work.  Love the extra dandruff!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 07, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
Looks great Tom. Can't wait to see everything on Saturday.


Curt,

Thanks, glad you got to see it Saturday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on November 07, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
Hey Tom:

It's looking just beautiful.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: MAP on November 08, 2019, 06:12:05 AM
Nice scenery re-fresh Tom!  Amazing what a little bit of scenery "scraps" can do to a scene.  4900 pics?   :o Wow!


Bob,

Thank you as well. Updating more scenery is on the list for the coming months. Yep, 4900 - it's actually a little more than that as some weren't numbered.

Tom  ;D

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on November 08, 2019, 09:43:31 AM
Fantastic work Tom.  Every layer makes a BIG difference. I "Love it", too.

John,

I appreciate the comment. More scenery updates later.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: Jerry on November 08, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
Tom beautiful work.  Love the extra dandruff!!


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you. It paid this time to deep all the extra stuff/"dandruff".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
I spray painted the three highway bridge road sections with full strength Floquil Concrete. Unfortunately, I can't find the pictures so I guess I accidently deleted them.  :-[

Anyway, while the paint was drying on the road sections I decided to tackle some freight car repairs.

Several months ago, Curt brought some freight cars over that an older gent wanted to sell. I bought three ACL hoppers for I think $5.00 each.  I guess I can say they were more of a challenge than anything as I have about four hours of labor in the three.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164241.jpeg)

It took me a good hour to soak the glue and ballast out of the hoppers. Not sure what he used to glue in the ballast but it was a task to get them as clean as I did.

For the coupler pockets, he didn't use graphite but instead some sort of gear grease or vaseline. I finally gave up and cut the couple pockets off. I then used CAA glue to attach new Kadee #5 coupler pockets on the underframes.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 05:28:32 PM
I replaced the plastic wheel sets with Inter Mountain HO scale 33" metal wheels. I then adjusted the car height so the couplers were at the correct NMRA coupler height.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164256.jpeg)

I then adjusted the couplers so they fit over the HO Code 83 uncoupler magnet.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164312.jpeg)

I also made repairs to a few others that didn't require more than coupler adjustments or new couplers.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
I was going through a box of freight cars and found this gem.

Train Miniatures came out with this some 30 years ago and it took me that long to put it together. This was no walk in the park either.

The truck bolster holes didn't fit the underframe tabs and had to be filed to open the holes. The drop bay doors were not a perfect fit and needed some filing as well. I replaced the wheels with new Inter Mountain wheel sets and adjusted the couplers and gladhands

All in all, it was worth the time to have a V&O hopper on the Atlantic and Southern RR.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164327.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 05:38:30 PM
Once the paint dried and cured on the road sections, I taped the road with blue painters tape.

I then spray painted the side and bridge supports with full strength Floquil Aged concrete.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164346.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164420.jpeg)

These were set aside to dry and cure.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
I then sprayed painted the steel bridge with Tamiya Silver, #PS12.

I hung the bridge to dry and cure.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164404.jpeg)

I should have more updates tomorrow.





Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 11, 2019, 09:28:05 PM
It all looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 11, 2019, 09:28:05 PM
It all looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
Now I have the road and sides painted.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164435.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164451.jpeg)

Now much to say here.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:06:03 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-111119164504.jpeg)

After the two center bridge supports were dry I did a test fit.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133614.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:06:42 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133630.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133647.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:07:29 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133859.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133703.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119133915.jpeg)


After the test fit I noticed a small issue with the supports. The lower band around the support on the left wasn't glue tight. Glue added and problem fixed.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119160146.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:12:33 PM
I also noticed a gap on the upper and lower supports.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119160159.jpeg)

I didn't have any squadron putty on hand so I used Elmer's Wood Filler.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119160212.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:57 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121119160226.jpeg)


Tomorrow I'll touch up the wood filler spots and let dry.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 12, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
Looks great Tom. Are you going to leave it looking new or weather it some?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on November 13, 2019, 06:19:12 AM
That's going to be a great scene!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 13, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
Can't wait to see the water flowing under those bridges!  Looks awesome so far!   :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on November 13, 2019, 10:49:54 AM
Fantastic work Uncle Tommie. 

So looking at that scene, that looks like it's going to be one big water poor.  What sort of water method are you planning on using?  And don't tell me your just going to poor left over Diet Pepsi in there.  We all know that would be consider Diet Pepsi abuse.

::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 13, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That curve in the road leading onto the bridge looks very natural.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 12, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
Looks great Tom. Are you going to leave it looking new or weather it some?


Curt,

Thank you. All of it will be weathered to one degree or another.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 03:59:44 PM
Quote from: cuse on November 13, 2019, 06:19:12 AM
That's going to be a great scene!


John


John,

Thank you and yes, I hope so. I already have been thinking of what small structure I can put at the river's edge and at the base of one wall. I think some rickety stairs from the top to the structure will be very interesting as well.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 13, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
Can't wait to see the water flowing under those bridges!  Looks awesome so far!   :D


Bob,

Thanks, much appreciated. Whatever water flows in the river, rest assured it will be nasty. After all, it is the Big Tahope River.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on November 13, 2019, 10:49:54 AM
Fantastic work Uncle Tommie. 

So looking at that scene, that looks like it's going to be one big water poor.  What sort of water method are you planning on using?  And don't tell me your just going to poor left over Diet Pepsi in there.  We all know that would be consider Diet Pepsi abuse.

::) ::) ::)


Cousin Brucie,

I haven't decided what I'll do as yet. It will either be a liquid pour like I did in the Suwannee River Lagoon using Magic Water/Unreal Details or just add some Mod Podge to the top of the painted river.

I've never even seen any left over Diet Pepsi. What's that?  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 13, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That curve in the road leading onto the bridge looks very natural.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

Thank you on both! I do agree the new angle of approach of the road to the bridge is much better than the first one. I guess mistakes can turn out for the better.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 15, 2019, 04:12:18 PM
I've been gathering my supplies for starting new scenery in the area south of the river. I have sceney material in several different locations around the layout.  A smart man would have them all in one location.

Anyway, it took a few hours to get it all ready. Hopefully I can start in the next few days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on November 15, 2019, 11:33:32 PM
Mod podge does seem to give good results.  I plan on trying that the next time I do some water on a project. Looking forward to seeing which method you go with.

As for left over Diet Pepsi, I've only seen that at the homes of Diet Coke drinkers.  Poor misguided fellows.....

8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on November 16, 2019, 09:08:28 AM
Hey Tom:

the bridges are just beautiful. Can't wait to see the water and the rest of the scenery and buildings around it.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on November 17, 2019, 05:57:17 PM
ACL 1504,
               To my wrinkly ass brother from Los, Florida I say this:  Your modeling skills and your layout are most adsurideatly pulchritudinous and statuesques in it's every evolving AS tale. Look forward to your next investiture on your layout.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on November 19, 2019, 09:26:19 AM
Using the ultimate drag racing compliment - "this is just bad ass Tom"

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on November 15, 2019, 11:33:32 PM
Mod podge does seem to give good results.  I plan on trying that the next time I do some water on a project. Looking forward to seeing which method you go with.

As for left over Diet Pepsi, I've only seen that at the homes of Diet Coke drinkers.  Poor misguided fellows.....

8) 8) 8)


Cousin Brucie,

Yes, it does and I like the results. On the Suwannee River Lagoon water. I applied the Mod Podge over the Magic Water.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on November 16, 2019, 09:08:28 AM
Hey Tom:

the bridges are just beautiful. Can't wait to see the water and the rest of the scenery and buildings around it.

Karl




Karl,

Thank you buddy, I'm quite ready to get back at the layout build as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: tct855 on November 17, 2019, 05:57:17 PM
ACL 1504,
               To my wrinkly ass brother from Los, Florida I say this:  Your modeling skills and your layout are most adsurideatly pulchritudinous and statuesques in it's every evolving AS tale. Look forward to your next investiture on your layout.  KP-out...


KP1,

I can't see my back side and I'm concerned you are looking. Anyway, thank you for the great compliment on the layout build. I'll be back in January.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on November 19, 2019, 09:26:19 AM
Using the ultimate drag racing compliment - "this is just bad ass Tom"

Doug


Doug,

Thank you as well for the great compliment, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 04:36:54 PM
Hey ya'll remember me? I've been absent for quite some time.

Honestly, I'd like to say I took a long break but that would less than the truth; however, it was a forced break not of my choosing. The truth is I've had house guests on and off since November 18. House guests really cut into the hobby time, family or not. I couldn't get any momentum going without some sort of interruption.

The good news is that they are now all gone bye-bye. I made the announcement that from now on, visitors are welcome for a maximum stay of three days and never again around the holidays.

So, I'll be back on the layout full time in January of next year. I'll see you then.

Tom   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on December 17, 2019, 04:47:41 PM
January ???? , I need my dose of Atlantic and Southern, can't do without that long  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2019, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 17, 2019, 04:47:41 PM
January ??? ? , I need my dose of Atlantic and Southern, can't do without that long  ;)


Jan,

I'm quite anxious as well. However, I'm gong to lay off until January and enjoy the rest of the holidays. It will take that long for me to get back the momentum.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2019, 05:36:58 PM
I was lucky to see Tom's layout in person last Saturday.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on December 18, 2019, 01:43:16 AM
ACL 1504,
        To my anxious friend who decided to lay around for the next month or so and do nothing.  Kudos to you sir!  I've sat around on my arse for over 50 years and I'm still trying to get back the momentum.  Look it, I see you've already caught up to me.  Let me know any tricks you discover when your momentum returns, I'm always lookin' to learn new techniques. (grin)...  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 18, 2019, 08:53:47 AM
Slacking till January.....Bill will be chompin' at the bit for things to get moving by then.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 18, 2019, 02:34:26 PM
Hey Tom:

Looking very cool. Great looking bridges. you  have more patience than I do.

Karl

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on December 18, 2019, 03:52:50 PM
Merry Christmas, Tom.

I look forward to your continued progress next year.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on December 21, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
Even the best have to rest.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 22, 2019, 03:06:05 AM
Hey Tom,
I just wanted to wish you and the babe a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.  Looking forward to your return to modeling in January.

Cousin Brucie
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 22, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Tom those bridges are wonderful.


As usual your great work on display!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2019, 05:36:58 PM
I was lucky to see Tom's layout in person last Saturday.


Curt,

It's always good to see you my friend. Thank you again for the lunch and great BSing.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:12:32 AM
Quote from: tct855 on December 18, 2019, 01:43:16 AM
ACL 1504,
        To my anxious friend who decided to lay around for the next month or so and do nothing.  Kudos to you sir!  I've sat around on my arse for over 50 years and I'm still trying to get back the momentum.  Look it, I see you've already caught up to me.  Let me know any tricks you discover when your momentum returns, I'm always lookin' to learn new techniques. (grin)...  KP-out...


Thommy,

Thank you for the post and I guess the support. The break was forced on me by family guests, old age and anything else you may want to add.

My one trick or advise to you is - Avoid old age at any cost but the one big one! 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 18, 2019, 08:53:47 AM
Slacking till January.....Bill will be chompin' at the bit for things to get moving by then.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

You know the saying, "Less is more", so, less layout time now means more layout time later.  :-X :-X


Tom  ;D 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 18, 2019, 02:34:26 PM
Hey Tom:

Looking very cool. Great looking bridges. you  have more patience than I do.

Karl

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy, appreciate you checking in. Patience I have but time I lack.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 18, 2019, 03:52:50 PM
Merry Christmas, Tom.

I look forward to your continued progress next year.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Merry Christmas to you and you family. I'm getting ramped up for the new year.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: Blazeman on December 21, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
Even the best have to rest.



Larry,


Thanks for the compliment. Although I wanted the break, I'm ready to get back to the layout.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:21:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 22, 2019, 03:06:05 AM
Hey Tom,
I just wanted to wish you and the babe a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.  Looking forward to your return to modeling in January.

Cousin Brucie


Cousin Brucie,

The Babe and I thank you and Merry Christmas to you as well. Hope your New Year is much less stressful and more modeling is involved.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Jerry on December 22, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Tom those bridges are wonderful.


As usual your great work on display!


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you, very much appreciated. The bridge project was fun but more work is still to be done on it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
Over this past weekend, I was able to obtain the remaining super trees Kris Cutler made for the A&S RR.

I could say these are all mass produced but in reality they are all "one of a kind",  being made one at a time, over time. I'm very honored to have such Museum Quality trees for use on my humble layout. Just seeing the craftsmanship in these trees is getting me more motivated to start the new year early in working on the layout.

Fall colors -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231219114150.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:45:45 AM
Mixed Fall and Winter Green -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231219114213.jpeg)



(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231219114226.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Close up of the tree trunks -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231219114241.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231219114255.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 23, 2019, 01:37:48 PM
Beautiful trees.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on December 23, 2019, 01:51:57 PM
These trees are great looking Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on December 23, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Nice, Tom!

Are the trunks sage bush?

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on December 26, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
Wow, those are really amazing. Hope you post how they look when you place them on layout.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 23, 2019, 01:37:48 PM
Beautiful trees.


Curt,

Thanks and of course all the credit goes to Mrs. Cutler.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: sdrees on December 23, 2019, 01:51:57 PM
These trees are great looking Tom!


Steve,

Thanks, Kris did a fantastic job on all of them. I feel like I won the tree lottery!


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 23, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Nice, Tom!

Are the trunks sage bush?

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

No, they are all Scenic Express trees. I talked to Kris and this is the best compendium I can give on how she made the trees.

The trees were treated with matte medium to stiffen them a bit. She took individual trees or larger limbs and used a flat popsicle stick to add mastic to the trunk. When satisfied with the look, she set them aside for the mastic to dry. After the mastic dried, she used thread to wrap a few together. Then more mastic was added to thicken the main trunk into a larger tree.  She used broken popsicle sticks to add the definitions to the trunk and spread more mastic on the bottom to make the root base.

The tree trunks were then painted various shades of browns and grays. This was a very slow process and you can imagine how long it took for her to do all these trees.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:27:58 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 26, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
Wow, those are really amazing. Hope you post how they look when you place them on layout.

Jim


Jim,

Thanks for stopping by. I've already started the forest renewal project. Stay tuned and check back in a few hours.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:42:49 PM
I mentioned I was going to start working on the layout full time in January 2020. So, Happy New year early. I've already started.

Over the past few days I've been doing an urban renewal in the forest areas on the east side of the layout. I previously added new trees to Eaton's Curve and Barlow's Smoke House areas. This took me to the south end of the Suwannee River Lagoon area.

I started this renewal across the road from the country store.

First a photo of all the tree supplies.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219162846.jpeg)

This area has the small pond and a few pines.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219162911.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:47:34 PM
I moved a few trees and added several more.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219162930.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219162957.jpeg)

This area had 14-16 trees and now it has 28.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:48:11 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163012.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:53:36 PM
The next area to be reforested was the area south of the road and north of the dirt road next to the Piney Woods Station.

Here I've removed some 20 trees.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163027.jpeg)

New trees are being added along with some of the original trees. They are now more closely together with some additional under brush.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163044.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:55:56 PM
Kris' trees look very realistic.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163135.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163149.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 04:59:47 PM
This area is just across the dirt road from Piney Woods Station.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163201.jpeg)

I added more trees to the right of the track.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163229.jpeg)

More in a few. Time for a Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 05:02:46 PM
Here you can see the thickness of the tree canopy.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163215.jpeg)

Continued -












Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163242.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163301.jpeg)



There are now 52 trees in this one area. Previously there were 32.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 05:09:37 PM
The area south of Piney Woods Station was next.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163353.jpeg)

Note how sparse the trees are now. More tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on December 26, 2019, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 26, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163242.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261219163301.jpeg)



There are now 52 trees in this one area. Previously there were 32.
Awesome tree's , didn't think it was possible but your layout looks even better now.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 26, 2019, 06:39:34 PM
Beautiful trees and modeling.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on December 26, 2019, 10:43:25 PM
Tom;

The additions really add a depth to the scenes. The picture of the double main line carving through the woods with the dirt road crossing is old Florida! If not told it was a modeling scene you would think it was a picture of days gone by.

Really nice.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on December 27, 2019, 01:59:51 AM
ACL 1504,
                 Pulchritudinous metier crony, chimerical iconography.  Translation for the geriatric- Beautiful job my friend, fantastic pictorial.   KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on December 27, 2019, 06:20:56 AM
WOW!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 27, 2019, 08:47:59 AM
Looks good Tom.....glad I don't have to rake the leaves all those trees will drop.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 26, 2019, 05:50:18 PM


Awesome tree's , didn't think it was possible but your layout looks even better now.


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciated. Kris' trees definitely made the layout much better.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 26, 2019, 06:39:34 PM
Beautiful trees and modeling.

Curt,

Much appreciate you stopping by my friend.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on December 27, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
This is making a huge difference, Tom.

Thanks for your description.  I thought they were scenic express.  I bought some boxes a few years back and some of them came with a plastic bag containing sage bush branches to use as trunks - hence the question.  You drilled angled holes in these and glued in sea moss branches.  Also very time consuming.  My friend Neil uses a similar technique to what you described in 1:32 scale - also with brilliant results, so I have a master here to learn from.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 26, 2019, 10:43:25 PM
Tom;

The additions really add a depth to the scenes. The picture of the double main line carving through the woods with the dirt road crossing is old Florida! If not told it was a modeling scene you would think it was a picture of days gone by.

Really nice.

Jim D


Jim,

Thank you for the very kind compliment on the scenery. Kris' trees sure help. The scene of the double track and dirt road are old Florida of days gone by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: tct855 on December 27, 2019, 01:59:51 AM
ACL 1504,
                 Pulchritudinous metier crony, chimerical iconography.  Translation for the geriatric- Beautiful job my friend, fantastic pictorial.   KP-out...

KPI,

Thang yoo (sic) for the encomium and blandishment on the iconography, much appreciated.

KPII ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: cuse on December 27, 2019, 06:20:56 AM
WOW!


John


John,

Thank you butty.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 27, 2019, 08:47:59 AM
Looks good Tom.....glad I don't have to rake the leaves all those trees will drop.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Much appreciate you stopping by, thanks. No worries, I don't plan on raking any leaves either.  8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 27, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
This is making a huge difference, Tom.

Thanks for your description.  I thought they were scenic express.  I bought some boxes a few years back and some of them came with a plastic bag containing sage bush branches to use as trunks - hence the question.  You drilled angled holes in these and glued in sea moss branches.  Also very time consuming.  My friend Neil uses a similar technique to what you described in 1:32 scale - also with brilliant results, so I have a master here to learn from.

Cheers, Mark.

Mark,

Cheers and thank you. I'm a patient person when modeling but I think her method would certainly test my Christianity.  :-X


I have been guilty of certain uttering while scratch building.  :-X


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 02:20:26 PM
I have another 16 photos of a scenic area and a local freight. However, I need to crop and clean up the photos. I'll get these posted later this afternoon.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
I started removing trees in the area south from the station to the Tahope River.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219153951.jpeg)

I left the previously planted Kris super trees and the burned out area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154004.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 03:53:01 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154017.jpeg)

All the trees removed from this area were reused but relocated with the newer ones in the same area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154112.jpeg)


There were 38 original trees and now the area has 71!

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
I added more burned trees and burnt downed tress to the area.

Before -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154030.jpeg)

After -

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154042.jpeg)

Continued in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 04:02:45 PM
Birds eye view, er drone view, looking north from the Tahope River.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154146.jpeg)

Brass PFM/United 2-8-2, ACL #835 having just crossed the Tahope River bridge and heading for the water tower.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154059.jpeg)

Continued in a few.










Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 04:06:19 PM
Same location but from track level. Sorry about the overhead LED lights.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154133.jpeg)

Old number 835 stopped for water.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154158.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 04:07:38 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154233.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154222.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 04:08:32 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154245.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154210.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 27, 2019, 04:11:51 PM

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154311.jpeg)


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271219154258.jpeg)


I noticed in the above photo I bumped the left side of Three Fingered Freddy's. It has been set back in the grass.

Done for this fine day.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: EricQuebec on December 27, 2019, 04:34:22 PM
Great scenery. Just wonderful :)
Eric
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 27, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
Top notch Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on December 27, 2019, 08:19:10 PM
These are some fantastic pictures Tom, and your placement of the trees and the variation of the vegetation type is just great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Oldguy on December 28, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmn.  Those look faaaaaannnnnnnnntastic.  And the photos . . . . . . . .
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 29, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
Wow Tom,
Those changes look flat out amazing!  Nice work as always.

BTW, I am sipping on a Diet Pepsi as I type this.  I suggest you do the same....

The Boise Kid

;D ;D  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on December 30, 2019, 10:42:07 AM
Nice pictures, nice scenery.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on December 27, 2019, 04:34:22 PM
Great scenery. Just wonderful :)
Eric


Eric,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 27, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
Top notch Tom.


Curt,

Thanks very much.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: sdrees on December 27, 2019, 08:19:10 PM
These are some fantastic pictures Tom, and your placement of the trees and the variation of the vegetation type is just great.


Steve,

Than you, Kris made the Scenic Express Super trees really super. This simple addition to the layout really changed the overall look.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on December 28, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmn.  Those look faaaaaannnnnnnnntastic.  And the photos . . . . . . . .


Bob,

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkk Yooooouuuuuu! The trees are spectacular. Just got lucky on the photos.  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 29, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
Wow Tom,
Those changes look flat out amazing!  Nice work as always.

BTW, I am sipping on a Diet Pepsi as I type this.  I suggest you do the same....

The Boise Kid

;D ;D :o


Bruce, 

Something as simple as adding some fantastic trees make my layout look better.

Anyway, thanks. And, yes, i have a Diet Pepsi as I type this response.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:34:24 PM
Quote from: jbvb on December 30, 2019, 10:42:07 AM
Nice pictures, nice scenery.

James,

Thank you for the nice compliment, appreciate it.

Tom  ;D 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:38:47 PM
Here are some extra photos of the Sandlando Station on the Atlantic and Southern RR. This is in response to a request from the Saturday Report for more photos.

As I mentioned, Reading Bob built this FSM kit using the A&S RR colors of  white with green trim.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132110.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132124.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:39:39 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132136.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132151.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:41:41 PM
The  passenger sheds were kit bashed using FOS platforms. The platforms are no longer available.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132206.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132220.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-311219132232.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on December 31, 2019, 06:41:16 PM
Tom


Fantastic build and fantastic scene. Fine work my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on January 01, 2020, 02:54:41 AM
That station looks mighty cool Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 01, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on January 01, 2020, 02:54:41 AM
That station looks mighty cool Tom.


It's to be expected Bruce.....it's another outstanding "Butt's Build".  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on December 31, 2019, 06:41:16 PM
Tom


Fantastic build and fantastic scene. Fine work my friend.


John,

Thanks for stopping by. Although I can't take credit for the station build, I can say I did the scenery.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on January 01, 2020, 02:54:41 AM
That station looks mighty cool Tom.


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you, Bob did a fantastic job on the station build.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 01, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on January 01, 2020, 02:54:41 AM
That station looks mighty cool Tom.


It's to be expected Bruce.....it's another outstanding "Butt's Build".  :)


I'm sure very fortunate to have Bob living in Central Florida.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
Tom great scene beautiful work as usual!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 05:40:56 PM
Quote from: Jerry on January 01, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
Tom great scene beautiful work as usual!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you for the kind compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 05:52:09 PM
I started the new year off with weathering concrete pads. These are the pads for the pest control, auto shop and Sokols.

First I rescribed the expansion joints.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174212.jpeg)

I used an awl to add some cracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174227.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
I then applied a thin coat of Hunterline Light Gray and let dry.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174239.jpeg)

I used a #2 dry brushing brush to add some pastel chalk to a few cracks.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174304.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 05:59:05 PM
This is a better shot of the dry brush. PostalKarl told me about these. I got them from Micro Mark.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174251.jpeg)

I then used a soft bristle brush to blend the pastel over the cracks.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174318.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 06:02:32 PM
I then used a clean paper towel with clean alcohol and wiped from top to bottom. This blended the burnt sienna pastel chalk into the concrete color.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174330.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174344.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
I tried a different technique on the Sokols  concrete pad. I used a Pan Pastel sponge and rubbed on some medium gray chalk. I then applied a thin coat of Hunterline Light Gray A&I.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174357.jpeg)

I then used a clean paper towel and wiped the A&I off along with some of the medium gray chalk.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174410.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 06:15:47 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174423.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174439.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 06:32:09 PM
With the help of a nice ice cold Diet Pepsi I got them finished.


(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174450.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 01, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174502.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010120174514.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 01, 2020, 07:59:18 PM
Nice concrete coloring. It's really good to see you at it again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 01, 2020, 08:28:38 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on January 02, 2020, 10:29:43 AM
Just catching up with all of your progress Tom.  Dang!  Looks great!  The additional trees really make a difference, and the new buildings are a nice addition to the layout....and the station is fantastic.  Dang!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on January 02, 2020, 10:41:28 AM
Tom - Not to be a nit-picker or anything, but you misspelled "tires."  In Tahope it is spelled (and pronounced) "tars."  The Roadwork looks good.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 01, 2020, 07:59:18 PM
Nice concrete coloring. It's really good to see you at it again.


Curt,

Thank you, it is good to be back working on the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 01, 2020, 08:28:38 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark,

Cheers, thank you, appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: MAP on January 02, 2020, 10:29:43 AM
Just catching up with all of your progress Tom.  Dang!  Looks great!  The additional trees really make a difference, and the new buildings are a nice addition to the layout....and the station is fantastic.  Dang!


Mark,

Hey, thanks for catching up. The trees definitely changed the layout look for the better. I'll have another update later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: Judge on January 02, 2020, 10:41:28 AM
Tom - Not to be a nit-picker or anything, but you misspelled "tires."  In Tahope it is spelled (and pronounced) "tars."  The Roadwork looks good.


Bill - AKA: Judge,

Thanks for the compliment and nit-picking is accepted here. Although no nose-picking is allowed.  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 05:11:18 PM
I painted full strength Elmer's White Glue on the pink foam between the fascia and dirt road. I then spread on Woodland Scenics Fine Turf Burnt Grass #T1344.

I let it dry over night and then sprayed the area with wet water and added a good dose of matte medium.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170724.jpeg)

While the matte medium was still wet, I sprinkled on Scenic Express "Flock & Turf" Grass Turf Blend EX880C. I spread the turf on randomly and didn't cover the entire area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165828.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 05:14:54 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165848.jpeg)

I let this dry overnight as well. The next day I wet the area and added another light coat of matte medium.

While still wet, I sprinkled on Scenic Express Scrub Grass Blend #EX882C.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165902.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 05:19:03 PM
During the scenery addition, I carefully marked the outline of the FOS Whalen Apiary. You can just barely make out the pencil line on the road and eagle eyes can see it in the turf.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165740.jpeg)


I wet the area and removed the grass.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165759.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2020, 05:22:36 PM
I added a fourth coat of scenery material and this time it was the Scenic Express Farm Pasture Blend EX886C.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165931.jpeg)

I let this all dry another night. So, my scenery is added one layer at a time using four different materials for a total of four layers.

More tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on January 02, 2020, 10:18:45 PM
Sure ain't lettin' any grass grow under your feet this week!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on January 02, 2020, 10:18:45 PM
Sure ain't lettin' any grass grow under your feet this week!


Chip,

Thank you for stopping by. No, I'm not and the good news is I don't have to cut this grass.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2020, 05:02:56 PM
This one small area is now finished. I'll do more as I move around towards the river.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120165949.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170007.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2020, 05:04:10 PM
(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170020.jpeg)

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170032.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 03, 2020, 05:06:58 PM
i still need to add interior details to Sweaty Betty's.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170045.jpeg)

Here is a short panoramic view of this area.

(http://www.modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020120170103.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 03, 2020, 11:48:15 PM
Great shot above, Tom!

The red against the green/ blue of the background really pops!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 04, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Mark,

Thank you, much appreciated. I also plan on adding a little color variation to the background trees.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 04, 2020, 09:04:39 AM
Lookin' good Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 04, 2020, 09:04:39 AM
Lookin' good Tom..... 8)


Thank you Greg, much appreciate you looking in.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 04:49:21 PM
Well, once again I find myself behind on the layout updates. I guess its a good thing to be busy with any layout related stuff excluding this thread.

Having recently been the benefactor of a huge variety of Kris Cutler's wonderful trees, I found myself adding a few tree changes to the south end of the Tahope area.

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163725.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120164213.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 04:49:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120164154.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 04:51:54 PM
Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163742.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120164141.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 09, 2020, 04:55:40 PM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 09, 2020, 04:55:40 PM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

As always, I thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 05:11:29 PM
Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163758.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120164127.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 05:13:35 PM

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163827.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163920.jpeg)

More in a few.






Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 05:18:16 PM
Okay, I got the before and after stuff down so here is the rest of this areas photos.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120163900.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120171734.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 09, 2020, 05:19:17 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090120164113.jpeg)

I'll try to get another update in tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on January 10, 2020, 11:39:23 AM
Wow, The changes look great Tom.  You certainly been busy as of late and it shows on the layout.

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on January 10, 2020, 11:39:23 AM
Wow, The changes look great Tom.  You certainly been busy as of late and it shows on the layout.

;D ;D :o


Bruce,

Thank you. Yes, I've been busy on the scenery the past several days.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 10, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just beautiful as always. Keep all the great photo flowing. I'm following along as usual.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:18:38 PM
I started adding some scenery base to the Tahope spur. Those who have followed this thread in the past know I add several different layers of scenery material. Usually around three to four prior to adding any trees or under brush. So, no need to go over it all again.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171006.jpeg)

I also have my favorite libation to keep me calm.  8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171029.jpeg)




More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:19:39 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 10, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just beautiful as always. Keep all the great photo flowing. I'm following along as usual.

Karl

Karl,

Hey, I do appreciate the compliment and your following along. Thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:23:13 PM
I have the rural post office and general store wired for an LED so I didn't remove it. I just turned it away from the scenery addition.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171044.jpeg)

Much further along on the scenery in the next photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171057.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:25:47 PM
Scenery base is finished and trees added. bushes and under brush will follow in about a week.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171115.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171128.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:30:13 PM
Sokol Mattress and Furniture is a Reading Bob built Bar Mills kit. He did a beautiful job. I'll have some pictures of it lit later next week.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171143.jpeg)

More trees and other stuff to be added in front.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171157.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:33:12 PM
This next photo is number 5,000 over the three parts of the Atlantic and Southern RR thread.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171226.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 10, 2020, 05:35:35 PM
Tahope spur track view.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171212.jpeg)

More scenery to be added here also.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171241.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 10, 2020, 08:03:21 PM
All great scenes. Look forward to seeing them in person tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 11, 2020, 06:28:35 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 10, 2020, 08:03:21 PM
All great scenes. Look forward to seeing them in person tomorrow.


Curt,

Thank you my friend. See you later this morning.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 11, 2020, 08:19:04 AM
Hey Tom:

What A beautiful job on this area. Thanks for sharing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 11, 2020, 09:10:21 AM
I bet those hard working, honest & trustworthy city fathers in Tahope are excited about recent grand landscaping efforts in their little corner of the world.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on January 11, 2020, 10:36:56 AM
Great addition to a great layout. I would like to donate one of my projects to Talope.  Might lake six months to build something new. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on January 11, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
It just couldn't be any better!!!


Beautiful detail Tom.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
Tom


The scenery looks great - it just ties everything together to make the scene. Mighty fine work my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 11, 2020, 08:19:04 AM
Hey Tom:

What A beautiful job on this area. Thanks for sharing.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you and you are very welcome.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:26:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 11, 2020, 09:10:21 AM
I bet those hard working, honest & trustworthy city fathers in Tahope are excited about recent grand landscaping efforts in their little corner of the world.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Yea, but wait until they get the bill.  8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:28:38 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on January 11, 2020, 10:36:56 AM
Great addition to a great layout. I would like to donate one of my projects to Talope.  Might lake six months to build something new. Jim


Jim,

Thank you for the nice compliment. Donations are accepted. Just need to find the right spot for every and anything. Even some of the stuff I built just doesn't fit the layout anymore.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Jerry on January 11, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
It just couldn't be any better!!!


Beautiful detail Tom.


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you very much. I appreciate the kind compliment on the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:30:47 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 11, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
Tom


The scenery looks great - it just ties everything together to make the scene. Mighty fine work my friend.

John,

Your kind compliment is much appreciated. All the comments from forum members keeps me going on the thread and layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:38:39 PM
Jaime was commenting in one of his build threads about water stains on dirt roads. This is an easy fix if you follow my suggestion.

I recently did an area with some new scenery and the water and matte medium left stains on the dirt road. I used Scenic Express Medium Natural Dirt for the road the first time around. You can see the water stains in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172221.jpeg)

To fix the staining, I used Scenic Express Fine Natural Dirt.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172233.jpeg)

Continued in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
I used a 1 inch wide soft brush and dipped it in the fine dirt.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172246.jpeg)

I then "painted" the fine dirt on top of the water stains and blended it in all directions across the water stain.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172302.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:43:27 PM
Here is the result after "painting" the fine dirt on the road.

This is really easy peasy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172316.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:45:42 PM
I also added a few more trees to the Sokols area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172330.jpeg)

The country store and post office is behind the large tree. The country store is a  CCK kit by Jeff Grove.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:48:53 PM
I next moved to the dirt road where it comes of the Tahope Hwy.

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172330.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172344.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100120171241.jpeg)

After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140120172402.jpeg)

This road is now Old Oak Road.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 15, 2020, 08:42:38 AM
Should we assume there's a New Oak Road somewhere?  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: carl b on January 26, 2020, 02:55:45 PM
This is one beautiful layout. Any new updates Tom?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
Quote from: carl b on January 26, 2020, 02:55:45 PM
This is one beautiful layout. Any new updates Tom?

Carl,

Thank you for the very generous and kind compliment on the layout. Yes, there are, I just haven't posted the updates. I'll do so within the next week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 28, 2020, 05:53:22 PM
Here is a quick update. I drilled track side signal pole holes on the Piney Woods mainline and siding on the west side this afternoon.

I've spent the last month or so adding trees to the entire west side. These are the trees Bill and Kris Cutler graciously donated to the Atlantic and Southern RR. Late this afternoon I reinstalled the Lexan fascia to the west side.

This isn't the update I promised Carl, that photo update will be posted later in the week.

I appreciate all the hits and followings over then past month. 15,588 views since December 16, 2019. Thank you!

I guess I better get busy!  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:12:26 PM
Work on the layout has been slow the past two weeks. My 92 Mother-in-law was in the hospital for four days last week. High blood pressure and fluid on her lungs. I was the designated Uber driver 2-3 times a day. She's home and doing great now. No fluid and blood pressure is 130/84.

Work still continues in the area south of the Big Tahope River.

I was looking at this portion of the scenery for the past month and just couldn't get a good feeling about it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165646.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165715.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:15:25 PM
It finally dawned on me I didn't cut in any road side ditches like shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165743.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165756.jpeg)

Now, where did I put that Stanley box cutter?

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:17:48 PM
I did find the Stanley box cutter and went to work on cutting in the ditches.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165816.jpeg)

White glue was then applied to the cut out area and a base scenery layer was added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165832.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165857.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165912.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:20:33 PM
A second layer was then glued in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165926.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165942.jpeg)

More in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:25:41 PM
While that area was drying I turned to the other side of the road. The used auto repair shop needed to have some dirt areas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120165955.jpeg)


I re-wet the grass and and sifted on some Scenic Express Fine Natural dirt.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170016.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:27:41 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170029.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170058.jpeg)

Much more scenery and details will be added to this area later.

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
At this point I needed to do more roadwork. It would be had to stripe the road with more scenery and trees in place.

For the road striping I used Great Planes KwikStripe model striping tape. I used 1/16" (1.6). In HO it is actually about 6" wide but it still looks decent.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120173417.jpeg)

A little fast forwarding here.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170126.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170141.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170157.jpeg)

Notice in the above photo that I went from doubled line center to single line at the track crossing. The corrupt city fathers of Tahope didn't want to spend the extra money when the road is leaving Tahope to the county.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2020, 05:44:03 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170212.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300120170227.jpeg)

More updates early next week.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 30, 2020, 07:44:40 PM
Looks good Tom. I'm glad your MIL is doing better.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on January 30, 2020, 11:55:18 PM
Nice job Tom.


Glad your MIL is on the mend.


Jerry


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 31, 2020, 07:56:32 AM
Hey Tom:

looking just beautiful. Keep those pic A flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 31, 2020, 09:02:25 AM
You're just moving right along.....looks good Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tooStupid on February 05, 2020, 01:31:23 PM
Sorry to drop in at this time, but I was going though my computer files and found this short video of your layout we did last Jan.


[color=var(--ytcp-link-color)]https://youtu.be/PtATKYi_3sU (https://youtu.be/PtATKYi_3sU)[/color]


It might be interesting.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on February 10, 2020, 08:38:43 AM
Great progress Tom! 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 30, 2020, 07:44:40 PM
Looks good Tom. I'm glad your MIL is doing better.


Curt,

Thank you. MIL has been back in the hospital since your post. She is finally home now and doing very well. Pam and I are now the parents and control all the meds.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:23:13 PM
Quote from: Jerry on January 30, 2020, 11:55:18 PM
Nice job Tom.


Glad your MIL is on the mend.


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you as well. MIL is now home after a second hospital visit and all seems well for now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 31, 2020, 07:56:32 AM
Hey Tom:

looking just beautiful. Keep those pic A flowing.

Karl


Karl,

Much appreciated and more photos are on the way.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:25:19 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 31, 2020, 09:02:25 AM
You're just moving right along.....looks good Tom.  8)


Greg,

Since your post I've been side tracked and on a dead end spur. I back at it now full time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: JusticeCity on February 05, 2020, 01:31:23 PM
Sorry to drop in at this time, but I was going though my computer files and found this short video of your layout we did last Jan.


[color=var(--ytcp-link-color)]https://youtu.be/PtATKYi_3sU (https://youtu.be/PtATKYi_3sU)[/color]


It might be interesting.


Marty,

A year has gone by already? Wow,  time flies at my age. Thanks for the visit and neat video.

Hope you and Karen are staying warm.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 10, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: MAP on February 10, 2020, 08:38:43 AM
Great progress Tom!


Mark,

Good to see ya again, thanks for stopping by. I'll have some update photos tomorrow.

Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on February 10, 2020, 07:33:44 PM
Beautiful work as always Tom!

Glad to hear that your MIL is doing so much better these days.  I been thru many of those kinds of problems here and I know that they are never any fun. 

;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 10, 2020, 07:33:44 PM
Beautiful work as always Tom!

Glad to hear that your MIL is doing so much better these days.  I been thru many of those kinds of problems here and I know that they are never any fun. 

;D ;D ;)


Hey Cousin Brucie,

Long time no see, thanks for stopping by and for the compliment as well. I told Pam that this is just the beginning of things to come. I know you went through it with your mom. Dan seems to be doing it as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on February 11, 2020, 10:34:41 AM
I give up. Keep getting database errors. I will view but no longer try to post. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on February 11, 2020, 10:34:41 AM
I give up. Keep getting database errors. I will view but no longer try to post. Jim

Jim,

Very sorry you are having problems posting. I know it's very frustrating. I had an issue last week where I got kicked out and couldn't sign back in. Jimmy D. had to give me a new password.

I appreciate your effort to post to this thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 05:45:55 PM
I managed to get more scenery done on the area south of the Big Tahope River.

First, I decided to add the RIX old fashion concrete bridge sides to the area along the river retaining walls. I had to order a supply of them to finish this project. Once these are painted and installed, I can finish the scenery here and move on to the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173024.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173055.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 05:48:34 PM
I added oil stains to the roadway. The camera really picks up the dark grey as it is actually very subtle on the road.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173110.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173126.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 05:51:52 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173141.jpeg)

A few more trees were added along with some weeds and over growth.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173313.jpeg)

I add scenery over a period of time as it gives me a much better perspective of how it looks and what else is needed to make it look more natural.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2020, 06:01:36 PM
A couple of years ago, Frank Baker was at a train show in AZ. He called and said a vender was selling palm trees. I told him to get what he could.

The vender was Bill Lankford and his business is Creative Accents/ Bill Lankford Studio. I got two of each style. Of course I sat on my A-- and didn't buy any others from Bill. Now, he no longer makes the palms. They were about 6-8 dollars each.

Here is a date palm and it is a scale 42 feet high.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173326.jpeg)

Seeing this next photo reinforces the notion I need a handy background board.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173338.jpeg)

I'll have more to show tomorrow or the next day.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 11, 2020, 07:01:16 PM
Awesome modeling Tom. Unfortunately it will be at least 3 weeks before I can see it in person.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 11, 2020, 07:47:16 PM
Outstanding and that's just the first layer!   :o  It's really taking on life.  It's alive!  It's alive!!  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on February 11, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
This is really taking shape Tom.  I like the way you put your scenes together.  Very nice
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Erieman on February 11, 2020, 09:54:54 PM
Tom,


Everything is looking great. Can't wait until you cross the river! Want to see how all those structures work out. Keep up the great work my friend.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on February 12, 2020, 03:22:30 AM
Your scenery is getting better and better Tom , I just love it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 12, 2020, 08:30:03 AM
Shaping up Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on February 12, 2020, 12:14:21 PM
Palms together for your efforts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 12, 2020, 01:41:06 PM
Looking superb, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 11, 2020, 07:01:16 PM
Awesome modeling Tom. Unfortunately it will be at least 3 weeks before I can see it in person.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir. I certainly hope to be here in three weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 11, 2020, 07:47:16 PM
Outstanding and that's just the first layer!   :o  It's really taking on life.  It's alive!  It's alive!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Bob,

Thank you. This area seems to just keep going and I've already made changes to what has been posted. More on this later this afternoon.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: sdrees on February 11, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
This is really taking shape Tom.  I like the way you put your scenes together.  Very nice


Steve,

Thank you as well. My scenes start in my pea brain, either grow or die. If the idea survives, I move on to the scenery part.

Again, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: Erieman on February 11, 2020, 09:54:54 PM
Tom,


Everything is looking great. Can't wait until you cross the river! Want to see how all those structures work out. Keep up the great work my friend.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thanks for stopping by and for the compliment. I can't wait to cross the river either. I have lots of ideas cooking the my noggin.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on February 12, 2020, 03:22:30 AM
Your scenery is getting better and better Tom , I just love it.

Jan,

I very much appreciate the kind words. This is the area of layout building I like most, scenery. I have learned much over the past decade from many modelers who are far more talented.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 12, 2020, 08:30:03 AM
Shaping up Tom..... 8)

Greg,

Thank you sir. I appreciate you looking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on February 12, 2020, 12:14:21 PM
Palms together for your efforts.


Chip,

Thank you for the support and palms together.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 12, 2020, 01:41:06 PM
Looking superb, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, Cheers,

Thank you for the generous compliment.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 07:34:40 PM
I mentioned in an earlier post that there was something bothering me about this recent area south of the Big Tahope River.  It took an outsider viewing the photos to point out what was bothering me. Obvious to him but not to me.

First let me say that I will always take criticism be it positive or negative. This is the case here.

I got an email from my close friend Thom Driggers pointing out what was not obvious to me. I'll just give ya'll the compendium of what his email stated.

The roadway and stripping didn't look natural and that all roads, be it county or rural didn't necessarily have edge stripping. I read his email with interest and viewed the photos he attached to the email.

I went back to the layout and used a critical eye to view the area in question. Thom nailed it, that area of the road then looked "toy like" to me. I immediately removed the white stripping and this gave the scene and area a totally new and more natural look.

Here is a before look at the road and stripping.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173126.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173141.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 07:37:24 PM
You can see in the next set of photos where the edge stripping was removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170239.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170253.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 07:40:49 PM
This next photo shows the center line stripe up to the rail.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170253.jpeg)

I removed this stripe from the vehicle stopping point as well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170316.jpeg)

I'll touch up the paint where the tape was removed.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 12, 2020, 07:44:05 PM
Now this area looks more realistic, without all the white edge stripping. Here is a great case of less is more. I like this look much better.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170336.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120220170350.jpeg)

Thank you KPI, much appreciate the feedback and suggestion.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 13, 2020, 01:27:01 AM
That looks much better, Tom.

I just figured it was another US thing, although I couldn't remember seeing it when driving on your roads.  I do remember driving on a lot of concrete roads with an amazing amount of expansion cracks painted with black pitch.  This was in the Colorado plateau area - especially the Navajo Nation.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 13, 2020, 07:48:09 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. I always enjoy seeing pictures of the work you do on your RR. Keep up the goods work.

karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 13, 2020, 09:05:49 AM
Tom great job.  I like this version of the striping better to.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on February 13, 2020, 10:56:40 AM

Tom,


FWIW, some research I did revealed that edge striping on roadways was in its infancy in the early 50's, with use primarily on highways or parkways.  Not sure exactly the era you are modeling.  Anyway, just a long way of saying I prefer the road as it is now with the simple center stripe.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on February 13, 2020, 01:49:12 PM
In present-day NH, state highways get edge striping, or striping to separate the travel lane from the shoulder if there is one.  Smaller towns' roads usually don't even have a center line. In 1960s MA, the city didn't use edge striping on any of the streets, and I'm fairly sure there wasn't any on US 1, which didn't have much of a shoulder.  I-95 did have a stripe between the slow lane and the breakdown lane.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 13, 2020, 03:26:24 PM
Excellent Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on February 13, 2020, 04:07:55 PM
I think it looks better with the minimal striping as well. 


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 13, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
Most excellent Tom

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 13, 2020, 01:27:01 AM
That looks much better, Tom.

I just figured it was another US thing, although I couldn't remember seeing it when driving on your roads.  I do remember driving on a lot of concrete roads with an amazing amount of expansion cracks painted with black pitch.  This was in the Colorado plateau area - especially the Navajo Nation.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you, honesty, I've seen it all different ways here. Not sure why I was so locked into doing what I did.

Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 13, 2020, 07:48:09 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. I always enjoy seeing pictures of the work you do on your RR. Keep up the goods work.

karl


Karl,

Thanks, much appreciated. More pictures are coming for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 13, 2020, 09:05:49 AM
Tom great job.  I like this version of the striping better to.


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you and I agree, this version is definitely better.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 13, 2020, 10:56:40 AM

Tom,


FWIW, some research I did revealed that edge striping on roadways was in its infancy in the early 50's, with use primarily on highways or parkways.  Not sure exactly the era you are modeling.  Anyway, just a long way of saying I prefer the road as it is now with the simple center stripe.


Jerry,

I'm modeling the late 40's to early 50's so it could go either way. This does look much better.

I think the short sections of road with edge stripping is fine as shown below. The section I just changed is approximately 14 feet in length. Edge stripping was just overkill on the road. Heck, I guess I could say it was road kill.

Suwannee River Lagoon area -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130220180350.jpeg)

County Road 46 at Caldwell Junction -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130220180410.jpeg)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: jbvb on February 13, 2020, 01:49:12 PM
In present-day NH, state highways get edge striping, or striping to separate the travel lane from the shoulder if there is one.  Smaller towns' roads usually don't even have a center line. In 1960s MA, the city didn't use edge striping on any of the streets, and I'm fairly sure there wasn't any on US 1, which didn't have much of a shoulder.  I-95 did have a stripe between the slow lane and the breakdown lane.

James,

I was actually going to model a shoulder on the road edge but it takes space. I opted for the ditch look instead. Appreciate your input and information.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:14:16 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 13, 2020, 03:26:24 PM
Excellent Tom.


Thank you Curt!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:16:25 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 13, 2020, 04:07:55 PM
I think it looks better with the minimal striping as well. 


Jeff


Jeff,

I agree and I think on my next road venture I'll try to model some gravel on the shoulder.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on February 13, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
Most excellent Tom

Doug


Doug,

Much appreciated, thank you. Good to see you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 13, 2020, 06:18:53 PM
I finished the fascia on the second level. I'll have some photos tomorrow afternoon. To tired now.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on February 13, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
WOW!!!! Tom, I can't believe how fast you go.......Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Quote from: DennisBourey on February 13, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
WOW!!!! Tom, I can't believe how fast you go.......Dennis


Dennis,

I just have my own pace. Fast one day and slow the next and that cycle repeats it self, slow one day and fast the next.  8) 8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on February 14, 2020, 03:40:45 PM
I wonder when stripes were first applied to the edges of the roads?  Seems like I remember roads without stripes well into the '50s or maybe the early 6o's. 

Ah, yes - Seri just told me that the first striping of roads in the U. S. was in 1911 in Michigan. They got the idea from a leaky milk truck. The stripes were used as intersection stop signs beginning in 1926.  In the 1950's, yellow lines made their appearance.  The dashed lines in the road are 10' long.  It's government regulation.
DOT uses 1.6 million gallons of road paint per year. 

I can't find when the edge stripes appeared.  But since Tahope County is set in 1950-1951, it is probably ahead of its time with road striping.  "Paving the Way to Progress!" ought to be Tahope County's motto.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on February 14, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
It's my recollection the standard is 10' dashes with 15' separation.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:17:12 PM
Quote from: Judge on February 14, 2020, 03:40:45 PM


I can't find when the edge stripes appeared.  But since Tahope County is set in 1950-1951, it is probably ahead of its time with road striping.


Bill,


You should have asked Seri what years the A&S RR was set in. She would have said, "The Atlantic and Southern Railroad is set from the mid to late 40's to the early 50's."

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:19:11 PM
Quote from: deemery on February 14, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
It's my recollection the standard is 10' dashes with 15' separation.


dave


Dave,



And, depending on how fast you are driving, the separation would seem much less. At Greg speed, the line would look solid all the way.

Just saying.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:43:30 PM
Several days ago I rolled out the table saw and cut the fascia strips for the second level fascia.

I started at the Big Tahope River and worked north.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173200.jpeg)



Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:46:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173235.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173219.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:49:05 PM
Prior to drilling the holes and screwing it in place, I made sure it was level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173248.jpeg)

Level is a good thing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173300.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:56:30 PM
The fascia in now complete on all the second level. Painting is next.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140220175255.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140220175309.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:58:12 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140220175323.jpeg)

Did I mention level is good?


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173351.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on February 14, 2020, 07:37:01 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:58:12 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140220175323.jpeg)

Did I mention level is good?


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110220173351.jpeg)

The only thing better than level is a Diet Pepsi in hand Tom.  Happy Valentines day to you and the babe
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 14, 2020, 09:08:38 PM
Looks good Tom and it wouldn't dare be unlevel!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Oldguy on February 14, 2020, 09:22:21 PM
That looks fantastic.  All of it!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 16, 2020, 10:41:16 AM
Tom did you level it ?????  ;D ;D ;D


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
ACL 1505,
               I know my visits to this thread are far & few between, but each time I visit I have to go back and re-look at all the wonderful pictorial posts you make on building this wonderful and really truly awesome (lets not forget realistic or time captured) layout.

Tom, besides being a learned modeling student of our predecessors (insert your favorite ones here) and being an awesome human being (always willing to protect & help) you also take valuable time in being an adroit inspiration to those  of us who just don't get it the first time go round.

I really enjoy this thread because you take the valuable time to capture on film each of your steps in modeling, take the valuable time in responding to each of us who perk up and reply, along with the many hours it takes to peruse other's threads struggling to inquire advice & suggestion on improving our skills in model railroading in general.

Yes John Allen was a inspirational modeling leader (he inspired me of what can be achieved), yes, George Sellios is a inspirational building & weathering god (he inspired me to stretch the boundaries of weathering), but in my opinion you are without a doubt an inspirational individual who models and weathering style sets the bar of fine personal, realistic, weathered, photographic, informative and achievable layout modeling.

Every generation has it's unsung Hero's, (one who does what he/she does and creates what she/he creates, but for some unknown reason isn't in every magazine or on every video or even on a cable model railroading network highlighting one's life achievements.

Well my friend (and I'm proud to call you my friend) you are a fine inspirational, motivational, ever-heart warming and incredible modeling creator to those who have had the pleasure of knowing you and seen the A&S rr's.   Pam must be so proud to be married to such an incredible man-father-husband-friend-modeler-person as you.

All I'm saying is Thank you for sharing so much of your time & talent with others in a hobby I love so much!  Sorry if I embarrass you here among your forum friends, I just wanted you to know publically I get what your doing and are saying thank you!
                                                                                       Thanx Thom...



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on February 18, 2020, 01:27:15 PM
Note to Tom/TCT:  He keeps everything on the level, too.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 18, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Great compliments Thom.....it will be interesting to see if Tom will be able to get his head thru the door of the shed to continue work on his empire.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jimmillho on February 18, 2020, 02:36:58 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Great compliments Thom.....it will be interesting to see if Tom will be able to get his head thru the door of the shed to continue work on his empire.  ;D ;D ;D

That may be the next expansion  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on February 19, 2020, 01:26:27 AM
Oh, ha-ha, you 3 are too funny!  I forgot about his ever growing cranium problem. grin.  We'll let's see if wider doorways are the next expansions.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on February 19, 2020, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
ACL 1505,
               I know my visits to this thread are far & few between, but each time I visit I have to go back and re-look at all the wonderful pictorial posts you make on building this wonderful and really truly awesome (lets not forget realistic or time captured) layout.

Tom, besides being a learned modeling student of our predecessors (insert your favorite ones here) and being an awesome human being (always willing to protect & help) you also take valuable time in being an adroit inspiration to those  of us who just don't get it the first time go round.

I really enjoy this thread because you take the valuable time to capture on film each of your steps in modeling, take the valuable time in responding to each of us who perk up and reply, along with the many hours it takes to peruse other's threads struggling to inquire advice & suggestion on improving our skills in model railroading in general.

Yes John Allen was a inspirational modeling leader (he inspired me of what can be achieved), yes, George Sellios is a inspirational building & weathering god (he inspired me to stretch the boundaries of weathering), but in my opinion you are without a doubt an inspirational individual who models and weathering style sets the bar of fine personal, realistic, weathered, photographic, informative and achievable layout modeling.

Every generation has it's unsung Hero's, (one who does what he/she does and creates what she/he creates, but for some unknown reason isn't in every magazine or on every video or even on a cable model railroading network highlighting one's life achievements.

Well my friend (and I'm proud to call you my friend) you are a fine inspirational, motivational, ever-heart warming and incredible modeling creator to those who have had the pleasure of knowing you and seen the A&S rr's.   Pam must be so proud to be married to such an incredible man-father-husband-friend-modeler-person as you.

All I'm saying is Thank you for sharing so much of your time & talent with others in a hobby I love so much!  Sorry if I embarrass you here among your forum friends, I just wanted you to know publically I get what your doing and are saying thank you!
                                                                                       Thanx Thom...

I can't agree more.  Thanks again Tom for all you do and for being my friend as well...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on February 20, 2020, 01:49:16 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 19, 2020, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
ACL 1505,
               I know my visits to this thread are far & few between, but each time I visit I have to go back and re-look at all the wonderful pictorial posts you make on building this wonderful and really truly awesome (lets not forget realistic or time captured) layout.

Tom, besides being a learned modeling student of our predecessors (insert your favorite ones here) and being an awesome human being (always willing to protect & help) you also take valuable time in being an adroit inspiration to those  of us who just don't get it the first time go round.

I really enjoy this thread because you take the valuable time to capture on film each of your steps in modeling, take the valuable time in responding to each of us who perk up and reply, along with the many hours it takes to peruse other's threads struggling to inquire advice & suggestion on improving our skills in model railroading in general.

Yes John Allen was a inspirational modeling leader (he inspired me of what can be achieved), yes, George Sellios is a inspirational building & weathering god (he inspired me to stretch the boundaries of weathering), but in my opinion you are without a doubt an inspirational individual who models and weathering style sets the bar of fine personal, realistic, weathered, photographic, informative and achievable layout modeling.

Every generation has it's unsung Hero's, (one who does what he/she does and creates what she/he creates, but for some unknown reason isn't in every magazine or on every video or even on a cable model railroading network highlighting one's life achievements.

Well my friend (and I'm proud to call you my friend) you are a fine inspirational, motivational, ever-heart warming and incredible modeling creator to those who have had the pleasure of knowing you and seen the A&S rr's.   Pam must be so proud to be married to such an incredible man-father-husband-friend-modeler-person as you.

All I'm saying is Thank you for sharing so much of your time & talent with others in a hobby I love so much!  Sorry if I embarrass you here among your forum friends, I just wanted you to know publically I get what your doing and are saying thank you!
                                                                                       Thanx Thom...

I can't agree more.  Thanks again Tom for all you do and for being my friend as well...





Bruce,
          I thank you my friend!  Many hugs n kisses-  You're the best too.  C'mere my modeling friend, bring it in!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 20, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 14, 2020, 05:19:11 PM
Quote from: deemery on February 14, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
It's my recollection the standard is 10' dashes with 15' separation.

dave

Dave,

And, depending on how fast you are driving, the separation would seem much less. At Greg speed, the line would look solid all the way.

Just saying.  8)

Tom  ;D


Hey.....I resemble that remark..... ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 14, 2020, 09:08:38 PM
Looks good Tom and it wouldn't dare be unlevel!




Curt,

Thank you and it better not be! 8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:20:20 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on February 14, 2020, 09:22:21 PM
That looks fantastic.  All of it!

Bob,

Thank you very much, I'm trying to make it look as best I can "old Florida/south".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 14, 2020, 07:37:01 PM



The only thing better than level is a Diet Pepsi in hand Tom.  Happy Valentines day to you and the babe.





Cousin Brucie,

You got that correct for sure. The only good time a Diet Pepsi isn't level is when its being poured.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 16, 2020, 10:41:16 AM
Tom did you level it ??? ??  ;D ;D ;D


Jerry


Jerry,

I certainly hope so!  ;D ;D ;D


Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:45:39 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
ACL 1505,
               I know my visits to this thread are far & few between, but each time I visit I have to go back and re-look at all the wonderful pictorial posts you make on building this wonderful and really truly awesome (lets not forget realistic or time captured) layout.

Tom, besides being a learned modeling student of our predecessors (insert your favorite ones here) and being an awesome human being (always willing to protect & help) you also take valuable time in being an adroit inspiration to those  of us who just don't get it the first time go round.

I really enjoy this thread because you take the valuable time to capture on film each of your steps in modeling, take the valuable time in responding to each of us who perk up and reply, along with the many hours it takes to peruse other's threads struggling to inquire advice & suggestion on improving our skills in model railroading in general.

Yes John Allen was a inspirational modeling leader (he inspired me of what can be achieved), yes, George Sellios is a inspirational building & weathering god (he inspired me to stretch the boundaries of weathering), but in my opinion you are without a doubt an inspirational individual who models and weathering style sets the bar of fine personal, realistic, weathered, photographic, informative and achievable layout modeling.

Every generation has it's unsung Hero's, (one who does what he/she does and creates what she/he creates, but for some unknown reason isn't in every magazine or on every video or even on a cable model railroading network highlighting one's life achievements.

Well my friend (and I'm proud to call you my friend) you are a fine inspirational, motivational, ever-heart warming and incredible modeling creator to those who have had the pleasure of knowing you and seen the A&S rr's.   Pam must be so proud to be married to such an incredible man-father-husband-friend-modeler-person as you.

All I'm saying is Thank you for sharing so much of your time & talent with others in a hobby I love so much!  Sorry if I embarrass you here among your forum friends, I just wanted you to know publically I get what your doing and are saying thank you!
                                                                                       Thanx Thom...


Thommy AKA: KPII,

Wow, I didn't see this one coming. Not to address every aspect of your pontificating so I'll just say a humble "Thank You"!

Like all others on the forum, I love this hobby and building structures. Jim Miller told me about the forum and I joined on December 15, 2013 after meeting Reading Bob. I asked Bob what the rules were and he said just be yourself, share what you've learned and try to answer all the comments to what you post.

This is what I tried to do through the years. I enjoy sharing my methods and I've learned so much more from being a member of this forum. Although I do appreciate your very generous and kind remarks, I know there are better modelers than me in forum land.

I think all of us agree comments to our threads are an encouragement or affirmation of our talents/knowledge. For me, comments to any of my threads keep me going, especially on the layout thread. And, I'm no to proud to take advice or criticism on what I've done. I may not always agree with what is said but it is all carefully considered all the same.

Well, enough bloviating from me on this. The most important aspect of this for me is all the wonderful friends I've met and have come to love and respect.

Again, Thommy, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on February 18, 2020, 01:27:15 PM
Note to Tom/TCT:  He keeps everything on the level, too.


Larry,

I guess I'm just a level with what I do.  ;D ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Great compliments Thom.....it will be interesting to see if Tom will be able to get his head thru the door of the shed to continue work on his empire.  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Sorry, I don't have much time to comment. The contractor is here asking me how wide the new doorway needs to be.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on February 18, 2020, 02:36:58 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Great compliments Thom.....it will be interesting to see if Tom will be able to get his head thru the door of the shed to continue work on his empire.  ;D ;D ;D

That may be the next expansion  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jim


Butty Jim,

Good to see you and I hope your rehab is going well.

The new expansion is on hold for now.  :P


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 19, 2020, 01:26:27 AM
Oh, ha-ha, you 3 are too funny!  I forgot about his ever growing cranium problem. grin.  We'll let's see if wider doorways are the next expansions.  Thanx Thom...


You three? All you guys are killing me with laughter. I have my head in a vise now so I don't become like every other "haughty" ingrate.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 19, 2020, 09:42:18 PM


I can't agree more.  Thanks again Tom for all you do and for being my friend as well...





Cousin Brucie,

You are very welcome and more importantly, thank you for being my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 05:13:34 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 20, 2020, 01:49:16 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 19, 2020, 09:42:18 PM



I can't agree more.  Thanks again Tom for all you do and for being my friend as well...





Bruce,
          I thank you my friend!  Many hugs n kisses-  You're the best too.  C'mere my modeling friend, bring it in!

Not touching this one.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2020, 05:14:59 PM
Okay, back to normal programming.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:28:16 PM
One subject not mentioned much is maintenance of the layout. Snit happens on the A&S RR and when it does, I'm not one to jump right on the problem. A few weeks ago, I broke a toggle switch on one of the control panels that control the turnouts on the Bottoms.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163045.jpeg)

This toggle is supposed to go up and down and not left to right as shown. That is how badly I bent it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163031.jpeg)

Not having this toggle operating results in the entire east staging trains to be DRT (Dead Right There). This is a term I used often when  processing crime scenes in my LE career. Just saying.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
Fortunately, I have a stash of spare parts. I hate to start a project and then find I don't have what I need. Usually this results in the project being put off to another day.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163100.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:34:55 PM
The wires were unsoldered and the old toggle was removed. A replacement toggle was installed and the wires were resoldered.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163125.jpeg)

Back in business.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163142.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
I also noticed another set of bi-color LEDs were out. Replacing these is a bit more complicated than replacing a broken toggle.

Fortunately, it was just a loose wire. The wire was resoldered and all is now good.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163158.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220163212.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:44:36 PM
This afternoon I started to work on the Big Tahope River area. I used painters tape to cover the small gap between the river edge and the inside of the fascia.

The tape will keep any liquids from leaking between the fascia and layout edge. This can and does cause a mess to stuff stored underneath. Don't ask how I know.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220174046.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220174140.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 21, 2020, 05:49:42 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220174157.jpeg)

I'll be using a product called Fusion Fiber to build up the earth embankment next to the sides of the retaining walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210220174215.jpeg)

I'm not sure what the fiber is but it looks and feels like compressed cotton and is impregnated with powered glue. When mixed with water it becomes a slimy mess but is also very effective at what it is intended to do.

More on this tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 22, 2020, 03:38:07 PM
Yesterday I was talking about the Fusion Fiber product. I pulled three hands full out of the bag and using a mixing bowl added some water. I also added some Woodland Scenics Earth Undercoat color.

The color addition is for two reasons. One, the white color was, well white.  ;D ;D  However, using a color in the mix gives me a reference to know when I have it thoroughly mixed. Kinda hard to tell when its all white if it is mixed.  8)


So you see in the next photo I still have a little mixing to do.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220150736.jpeg)

After mixing, I used a putty knife to add it to the base of the retaining wall.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220150753.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 22, 2020, 03:42:02 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220150808.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220150825.jpeg)

After letting it set for a few hours, I use the putty knife to soften the front edge and angled it down more towards the river bed, not shown here.

I added this 24 hours ago and its still wet. It will take several more days for it to dry to the touch.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 22, 2020, 03:44:30 PM
This is the same product I've used for other areas on the layout.

Here I used it for the roadway and track bridge area some four years ago.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220150857.jpeg)

Here I used it around the Suwannee River Lagoon banks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220151322.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 22, 2020, 03:46:08 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220151344.jpeg)

And on the banks of the Tahope River.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220220151502.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 23, 2020, 09:22:50 AM
Interesting stuff.  I'll follow this see how it all comes out.  Nice work Tom.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: carl b on February 23, 2020, 12:00:10 PM
Tom, thanks for showing the Fusion Fiber in use. Anxious to see it used.

Several days to dry? Hmmm.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 12:09:09 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 23, 2020, 09:22:50 AM
Interesting stuff.  I'll follow this see how it all comes out.  Nice work Tom.


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you. It is a great product and it can be rewet when dry and reused.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: carl b on February 23, 2020, 12:00:10 PM
Tom, thanks for showing the Fusion Fiber in use. Anxious to see it used.

Several days to dry? Hmmm.


Carl,

You are welcome. As mentioned, I've used it in several other locations on the layout. The drying time depends on how thick it is applied. Mine is going on 48 hours and the surface area is dry but it is still a little damp on the inside. You can tell as it is still squishy.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 04:53:11 PM
I ordered some extra overpass railing from Rix. They offer four railing in a pack so you don't have to buy the entire highway overpass kit to get extra railings.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161057.jpeg)

i opened all four bags and combined them into one bag. This way when I misplace the bag I can't use any of them. ;D  Otherwise I'l misplace all four bags.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161113.jpeg)

More in a few. ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 04:55:37 PM
I measured, cut, glued and then spray painted them with Floquil Aged concrete. When dry I glued them in place as shown in the following photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161156.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161217.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
Now I can finish the scenery in this area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161241.jpeg)

I added the railing to the other side as well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161257.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2020, 04:57:49 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230220161314.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 24, 2020, 11:27:23 AM
Those railings look very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: bparrish on February 24, 2020, 12:14:51 PM
Tom...

This is getting really cool...

What is the current product name for the Woodland Scenics large coarse foam?

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 25, 2020, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 24, 2020, 11:27:23 AM
Those railings look very nice Tom.


Curt,

Thanks very much. BTW, the A&S is closed this Saturday, 2/29/2020.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 25, 2020, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: bparrish on February 24, 2020, 12:14:51 PM
Tom...

This is getting really cool...

What is the current product name for the Woodland Scenics large coarse foam?

Thanx
Bob

Bob,

Thank you as well. Sorry, but can you be a little more specific about the large course foam?

Tom  ;D




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 25, 2020, 05:22:58 PM
Tom


The new section is looking great! The yellow pad of paper looks familiar  - I have one for stuff I need to order and a check list of things to fix.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 25, 2020, 08:54:51 PM
That area is really coming together nicely.  I know you have more to do but WOW, what a change since the last time I was down to visit.  Maybe Maddie won't growl at me next time I drop in.   ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on February 26, 2020, 01:26:16 PM
Tom,
Your Atlantic and Southern RR is a real show stopper. The hard work you put into it is really showing !!!
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on February 29, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
Great progress Tom.  You make it look soooo easy!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 29, 2020, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 25, 2020, 05:22:58 PM
Tom


The new section is looking great! The yellow pad of paper looks familiar  - I have one for stuff I need to order and a check list of things to fix.


John,

Thanks very much. The yellow pad is for, as you said, making notes and a supply list.   8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 29, 2020, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 25, 2020, 08:54:51 PM
That area is really coming together nicely.  I know you have more to do but WOW, what a change since the last time I was down to visit.  Maybe Maddie won't growl at me next time I drop in.   ::)


Bob,

Thank you for checking in and for the compliment Yes, much more to do but it is getting done. Maddie was just protecting the A&S RR! Now she knows you are one of the good guys.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 29, 2020, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 26, 2020, 01:26:16 PM
Tom,
Your Atlantic and Southern RR is a real show stopper. The hard work you put into it is really showing !!!
Tommy


Tommy,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment.  Hard work and fun combined.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 29, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: MAP on February 29, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
Great progress Tom.  You make it look soooo easy!


Mark,

Thanks very much. It is easy in some sections but others uses a lot of gray matter to just get it started. Then the easy part comes.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 29, 2020, 04:36:18 PM
I've been a little lax in posting updates. I have to many small projects going for sure.

I'll have a photo update no later than Monday afternoon.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 01, 2020, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: bparrish on February 24, 2020, 12:14:51 PM
Tom...

This is getting really cool...

What is the current product name for the Woodland Scenics large coarse foam?

Thanx
Bob


Bob,

i apologize for not answering the question. I try to use very little Woodland Scenics material. I mostly use Scenic Express. The large course foliage/foam you see in the photos is actually several layers. However, one of the final coats used is Scenics Express Flock & Turf chunk foliage. It is pictured below and is Senics Express stock number EX882C.

Its the one in the middle.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010320165941.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010320170003.jpeg)

The other two are excellent for blending as well. On the left is #EX880C and on the right is EX886C.

Hope this helps or answers your question.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 01, 2020, 08:36:31 PM
The scenic Express product is very good and is what I used on my last layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2020, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 01, 2020, 08:36:31 PM
The scenic Express product is very good and is what I used on my last layout.


Curt,

I do use the WS material for a base prior to applying my layers of SE materials. Thank for stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2020, 05:45:15 PM
Some progress was made some scenery the past few days.

I applied white glue to the edge of the retaining wall and used Woodland Scenics Turf as a base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174250.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174305.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2020, 05:48:43 PM
Yes, I need to vacuum the left over or loose scenery material off the road and tracks.

These are just some misc. photos of the area and scenery. I still have a few more details to add.

The palm trees are WS palms and painted by the Judge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174323.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174339.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2020, 05:49:23 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174357.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174411.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 02, 2020, 05:49:44 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020320174424.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 02, 2020, 06:56:18 PM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 02, 2020, 08:05:09 PM

Tom,


Looks like a walk off home run from here!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 03, 2020, 09:24:07 AM
Shaping up nicely Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 03, 2020, 02:32:57 PM
Hey Tom:

Great photos as usual. Love what you did with Hollis Pest Control. I love that sign. It's one of my Favorite FOS Scale kits.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 03, 2020, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 02, 2020, 06:56:18 PM
Looks great Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend, very much appreciate the kind word and support.

See ya Saturday morning.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 03, 2020, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 02, 2020, 08:05:09 PM

Tom,


Looks like a walk off home run from here!


Jerry,

I very much appreciate the compliment. It means I'm on the correct track so to speak.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 03, 2020, 05:28:43 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 03, 2020, 09:24:07 AM
Shaping up nicely Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you for stopping by and for the kind words.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 03, 2020, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 03, 2020, 02:32:57 PM
Hey Tom:

Great photos as usual. Love what you did with Hollis Pest Control. I love that sign. It's one of my Favorite FOS Scale kits.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, much appreciated. I had fun kit bashing Hollis Pest Control. It was necessary so it would fit in the space available. It is one of my favorites as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on March 04, 2020, 04:57:18 PM
Wow...that area is coming together nicely!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on March 04, 2020, 07:51:56 PM
As always, top notch work my friend.  Looks amazing.

Signed
The Diet Pepsi Kid
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 02:11:10 PM
Quote from: cuse on March 04, 2020, 04:57:18 PM
Wow...that area is coming together nicely!


John


John,

Thank you and thanks for stopping by as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 02:12:03 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on March 04, 2020, 07:51:56 PM
As always, top notch work my friend.  Looks amazing.

Signed
The Diet Pepsi Kid


DPK,

Much appreciated, thank you as always.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on March 05, 2020, 02:26:19 PM
Tom: How's the back doing?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
Larry,

Thanks for checking and asking! Mt back comes and goes. It is fine now but I just can't seem to get myself to understand I'm no longer a young gun.

My mind says I can do this and my back the next few days says I told you so.   8) 8)


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 05:01:01 PM
This will be a little Throw Back Thursday post. I was going to post it on the regular TBT thread but it mainly deals with the  A&S RR thread.

The old layout removal began on December 21, 2013.  Here are a few then and now photos.

THEN:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090415151034.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090415150847.jpeg)


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
NOW:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050320170030.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050320170042.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 05:02:10 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050320170055.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on March 05, 2020, 05:28:33 PM
That bridge is great  and so is the scenery around it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 05, 2020, 05:47:30 PM
Jan,

Thank you. That area took several months to finish.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 05, 2020, 09:24:40 PM
Pictures doesn't do it justice.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on March 05, 2020, 09:27:48 PM
Hey Tom, the pictures are just great, the scenery is outstanding.  WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 06, 2020, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 05, 2020, 09:24:40 PM
Pictures doesn't do it justice.

Curt,

Thank you. I hope your wife is doing better and the Drs. let her leave the hospital.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 06, 2020, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: sdrees on March 05, 2020, 09:27:48 PM
Hey Tom, the pictures are just great, the scenery is outstanding.  WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Steve,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the scenery. Other than structure building it is my second favorite thing to work on.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 06, 2020, 12:54:50 PM
What a transformation!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 06, 2020, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on March 06, 2020, 12:54:50 PM
What a transformation!

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

Thank you. When I look at old photos its amazing how far and how much I've done in 6 years.

Appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 06, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
I can't speak for other layout owners but the one thing I like least about having a layout is problem solving or trouble shooting. I guess they are the same.

Two weeks ago during one of our usual SBG sessions, four Tortoise switch motors stopping working. Since all four were on the same Digitrax DS-64 it was easy to assume it wasn't the motors. The four turnouts were numbers 301-304. No, I don't have three hundred Tortoise motors on the layout.

I figured it would be easier to "trouble shoot" if I kept it simple. So, all Tortoise motors on the second level, known as The Midlands, are numbered in the 200 series starting with 201. On the third level, known as Summit, all Tortoise motors are numbered in the 300 series starting with 301.

This past week I checked the DS-64 and didn't find it hot or burnt smelling. The light was on indicating it had power yet still not working.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060320113305.jpeg)

Apparently the decoder stopped working. I have some from  Bill Cutler so I "permanently" borrowed one for a replacement.

I had to reprogram the decoder to #s 301-304 and all is well now and operational.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060320113318.jpeg)

The Digitrax Stationary Decoder retails for $59.99. I'll send this one back to Digitrax and for $25.00 they will make the repair and send it back thus saving a few $$.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on March 06, 2020, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


They're equipped with an "urgency-of-need sensor" that causes failure when you most need it!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 07, 2020, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: deemery on March 06, 2020, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


They're equipped with an "urgency-of-need sensor" that causes failure when you most need it!


dave


Why am I the last to find, I never got the memo.....oh darn.  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 07, 2020, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


Greg,

Yes, they do and so do your friends who come down and change the screen on MY COMPUTER!

Tom  :-\
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 07, 2020, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 06, 2020, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


They're equipped with an "urgency-of-need sensor" that causes failure when you most need it!


dave


Dave,

Yea, but this one I didn't need.  ;D ;D

Tom  8)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 08, 2020, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 07, 2020, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


Greg,

Yes, they do and so do your friends who come down and change the screen on MY COMPUTER!

Tom  :-\


As I recall, nothing was changed..... ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2020, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 08, 2020, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 07, 2020, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 06, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Pesky computers will get you when you least expect it..... >:(


Greg,

Yes, they do and so do your friends who come down and change the screen on MY COMPUTER!

Tom  :-\


As I recall, nothing was changed..... ???


Okay, my bad this time.  :P


Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2020, 03:12:56 PM
I won't be doing much on the layout for the next two months or so. I'm in the process of brass loco painting so I want to finish that project first.

I will be adding a little here and there but not much.

I will try to keep the Throw Back Thursday part updated.

Here is what I didn't get done last Thursday.

Three years ago I repaired Frank Baker's Erie 2-8-4 loco. I made several test runs on the layout. In the video of three years ago you can see I only had track down and no scenery.

Before -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNRjL7uIEbU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNRjL7uIEbU)


Same scene three years later. After -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmbiJo9ERB4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmbiJo9ERB4)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnKXDR9BZGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnKXDR9BZGQ)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on March 24, 2020, 08:49:33 AM
Truly awesome scenery Tom. I love the trees. Just one thing was the Mikado more powerful than the Berkshire as it was hauling a much longer train????? 8)
Mike
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: madharry on March 24, 2020, 08:49:33 AM
Truly awesome scenery Tom. I love the trees. Just one thing was the Mikado more powerful than the Berkshire as it was hauling a much longer train? ??? ? 8)
Mike


Mike,

Thank you for the scenery compliment, much appreciated.

The Berk is the more powerful loco for sure but both were pulling on the Tahope Flatlands.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on March 24, 2020, 08:24:02 PM
Tom, I just cannot pass up commenting on your scenery and your video's. They are fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: sdrees on March 24, 2020, 08:24:02 PM
Tom, I just cannot pass up commenting on your scenery and your video's. They are fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Steve,

Thank you very much. And, I'm very sorry for the late response to your post, my bad. Over the years I've developed a real desire to make my scenery reflective of the South Georgia and North Florida look.

Again, thank you for the very kind compliment on the scenery and videos.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 04:57:46 PM
I've had several op sessions now where I've had problems with an old Walthers Shinohara left hand turnout. Its a #8 left curve. I've decided to just replace it and reroute the track for a more efficient operation and smoother running of the trains.

You can see the turnout in the birds eye view below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520160129.jpeg)

Of course I'll need to make this change on the second level and not constantly bump my head on the third level bench work. Also, the scenery and structures will need to be removed as well.

I'll have 16 inches of vertical space to work in. The distance between the two levels is actually 19.5 inches but the frame work is also in the way.

The good news is the turnout is only 8 inches from the edge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100520160144.jpeg)

I'll have more on the new design tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on May 10, 2020, 05:00:34 PM
ACL 1504,
          Hello my friend, Just love stopping by from time to time to see what your cooking up Chef T.  I just love how your pictorials are so well done and simple to follow along.  Very inspiring!  With all these cool compliments you receive, I wonder... if I told you also you have a sexy body to boot, you wouldn't hold it against me- would you?  :o  Keep having fun modeling brother!  I'm only a click in view.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 10, 2020, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 10, 2020, 05:00:34 PM
ACL 1504,
          Hello my friend, Just love stopping by from time to time to see what your cooking up Chef T.  I just love how your pictorials are so well done and simple to follow along.  Very inspiring!  With all these cool compliments you receive, I wonder... if I told you also you have a sexy body to boot, you wouldn't hold it against me- would you?  :o  Keep having fun modeling brother!  I'm only a click in view.  KP-out...

KPI,

Hey, thanks for the compliment on the layout and photos. As for the other comment, I'm afraid to be sure I won't be touching that one. In any event, I appreciate you following along on this thread.

KPII out.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 10, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
Great progress, Tom.

Its always a pleasure catching up on your work.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 10, 2020, 08:13:33 PM
I'm sure it will be a pain to change but that it will be replaced perfectly by you.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 11, 2020, 08:00:41 AM
Clamp a rolled up towel over the upper level edge so you don't split your head open when you hit it working on the lower level.  Or get a hard hat like I wear when working under the layout.   :D


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 11, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
Tom loved the video beautiful scenery.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on May 10, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
Great progress, Tom.

Its always a pleasure catching up on your work.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

Happy you stopped by, appreciate you following along.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 10, 2020, 08:13:33 PM
I'm sure it will be a pain to change but that it will be replaced perfectly by you.


Curt,

Thanks very much, now the pressure is on. LOL!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 11, 2020, 08:00:41 AM
Clamp a rolled up towel over the upper level edge so you don't split your head open when you hit it working on the lower level.  Or get a hard hat like I wear when working under the layout.   :D


Jeff


Jeff,

Oops, to late for that. I did use a ball cap and it helped save the scalp. No room for the hard hat in this very challenging vertical space.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 11, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
Tom loved the video beautiful scenery.


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the videos. Appreciate you stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:36:21 PM
Early this morning I began the track removal of the curved turnout. The trees and structures were removed first.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145122.jpeg)

Prior to the track removal, I used a Dremel cutoff disc and cut the track about half inch in front of any rail joiner.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145139.jpeg)

I do this for two reasons. First it lets me remove the ballast and track without damaging the area around the rail joiner. If I tried to unsolder the rail while the ballast is wet, I run the risk of lifting the track I don't want removed. If this happens, the wet ballast will get under the ties and when hard again, it is not level. Don't ask me how I know this to be true. You are benefiting from my previous mistakes.

Secondly. It allows me to safely unsolder the track and rail joiner when the track ballast is dry and hard.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Refer to the two very crude track plans below to see what changes I'll be making.

The first one shows the current track plan including the curved turnout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520153801.jpeg)

Although the plan above shows the south reverse loop, it has never been used and unwired many years ago.  All reversing is done using the north reverse loop.

The second one shows the new track plan in red. The new mainline will come off the turnout and be rerouted to the original mainline.

The curved turnout will be removed, new track fit to the same radius as the curved (36") and be the new Tahope Spur track.

By doing this, I will get a new mainline section of 38" radius while keeping the same 36" for the spur cutoff.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520153816.jpeg)

More later this evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 06:21:08 PM

Forgot to show this one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145311.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 06:22:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145152.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145325.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2020, 06:23:46 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145339.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110520145355.jpeg)

Tomorrow morning I'll glue the cork roadbed in place.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: vinceg on May 12, 2020, 08:16:47 AM
Very neat and clean work. Wish I could do that. Very nice!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 12, 2020, 09:28:49 AM
Demolition Man Langford is at it again..... :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 12, 2020, 09:30:10 AM
What do you use to glue down the roadbed to get it that clean Tom?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:43:45 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks great. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
Quote from: vinceg on May 12, 2020, 08:16:47 AM
Very neat and clean work. Wish I could do that. Very nice!


Vince,

I'm only showing the finished photos. You should have seen it during deconstruction. Appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 12, 2020, 09:30:10 AM
What do you use to glue down the roadbed to get it that clean Tom?

Curt,

I used Elmer's Carpenter's Glue to glue it in place. Here is how I get it clean and neat. These photos are from a couple years ago.

I used a 1 inch wide wood chisel slanted side down. I cut the roadbed on both ends of the piece I want removed. Using the chisel, I push it under the cork and it comes up very easily. Of course you want a sharp chisel otherwise it's a little harder.

Once the major portion of the cork has been removed, I used warm water and spray it on the remaining cork still glued to the plywood.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520163912.jpeg)

Again, using the chisel, I remove the remaining cork and let the plywood dry overnight.

I then use sandpaper to remove any cork or glue reisdue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520163931.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Now you have a clean smooth surface to redo the roadbed and lay the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164002.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 12, 2020, 09:28:49 AM
Demolition Man Langford is at it again..... :o


Greg,

I'm good at that and starting fires.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:13:26 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:43:45 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks great. Keep up the good work.

Karl

Karl,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:22:23 PM
Early this morning I started making the repairs. The inside track, the Tahope cut off, was fairly simple and straight forward. I glued the roadbed in place and when dry, sanded it smooth and added the track. One down.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164310.jpeg)

Then new outside mainline wasn't so straight forward. The area where the south reverse loop track was, is at a different level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164328.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:27:05 PM
Also, there is another step down on the plywood as seen on the left. This wasn't an issue when using the curved turnout as it was on the lower level of both sections of plywood. The scenery covered these two areas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164341.jpeg)

This section will need a shim for the track to be level.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164355.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:31:42 PM
The cork here is to high and will need to be sanded down and flush with the plywood on the right.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164413.jpeg)


I started by gluing and tacking the roadbed in place.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164428.jpeg)

When dry, the tacks were removed and the cork sanded smooth.

Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi break time. 8)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:37:21 PM

Okay, Diet Pepsi on hand.


I then added the shim for the other section and glued the cork in place. Now the cork on the right will need to be sanded down at a slight angle to meet the plywood. The cork on the left will need to be sanded so it is flush with the plywood.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164455.jpeg)

At least I got this one level.  8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164508.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
I think you get the idea of what I had to do to get the track smooth. So, fast forward and after 8.5 hours I finished the mainline and Tahope spur.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164522.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164537.jpeg)

Continued  -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
I'll run trains over these two new sections for a few weeks prior to adding the new ballast.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120520164551.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 12, 2020, 07:57:05 PM
Great job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2020, 08:47:27 AM
Beautiful broad sweeping curve.....built for "Greg Speed".  ;)  Great job Tom.....looking forward to running steamers on the new track.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 12, 2020, 07:57:05 PM
Great job Tom.

Curt,

Thank you my friend, much appreciated.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2020, 08:47:27 AM
Beautiful broad sweeping curve.....built for "Greg Speed".  ;)  Great job Tom.....looking forward to running steamers on the new track.  8)

Greg,

Thank you kind sir. Yes, it will handle any "Greg Speed" loco as you found out this afternoon. We sure had fun.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 04:49:44 PM
You'll no doubt hear this from the Judge on his Saturday Report. However, he doesn't have all the video we shot this morning.

Curt and Greg joined the Judge and me for a day for training (not learning but running trains) on the A&S RR.  The Judge, Curt and I were in Video production when Greg arrived. I had just announced, "Quiet on the set", and Curt banged the clapboard. I gave Greg a fist bump and started the video.

Here is the result of that failed attempt at our video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemH8zxHX30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemH8zxHX30)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 04:51:05 PM
And now for the real video we did. We had a great time in the during our coronacation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ0mnaTVCig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ0mnaTVCig)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 16, 2020, 05:57:41 PM
Wow!  Looking real good Tom.  I am always amazed at how much work you manage to get done in one of your work session.  It must be all that Diet Pepsi that you drink!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 16, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
Harumph..... ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 06:01:47 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 16, 2020, 05:57:41 PM
Wow!  Looking real good Tom.  I am always amazed at how much work you manage to get done in one of your work session.  It must be all that Diet Pepsi that you drink!

;D ;D ;D


Bruce,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout. Yes, as you know, Diet Pepsi is most helpful in layout work.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
Harumph..... ::)


Greg,

Two things I can say about you. One, you are a great fall guy and sport. Secondly, you are a great friend. So take back your "Harumph" you grump!  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 16, 2020, 06:50:34 PM
Looks great Tom. By the way all the homemade videos worked. Thank you for your generosity.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 17, 2020, 03:18:51 AM
Hey Tom:

The coal pusher looks just great. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 17, 2020, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
Harumph..... ::)


Greg,

Two things I can say about you. One, you are a great fall guy and sport. Secondly, you are a great friend. So take back your "Harumph" you grump!  8)

Tom   ;D


Awwwwww.....can't have any fun. I'll take back the "Harumph" and raise you an "aw phooey".  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 16, 2020, 06:50:34 PM
Looks great Tom. By the way all the homemade videos worked. Thank you for your generosity.

Curt,

Thanks very much and you are very welcome. I'm glad they all played.

I've moved the coal pusher portion to the C&O H-5 thread.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 17, 2020, 03:18:51 AM
Hey Tom:

The coal pusher looks just great. Keep up the good work.

Karl

Karl,

Thanks very much, the H-5 coal pusher portion has been moved to the C&O H-5 thread.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2020, 10:29:02 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 17, 2020, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 16, 2020, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2020, 05:57:53 PM
Harumph..... ::)


Greg,

Two things I can say about you. One, you are a great fall guy and sport. Secondly, you are a great friend. So take back your "Harumph" you grump!  8)

Tom   ;D


Awwwwww.....can't have any fun. I'll take back the "Harumph" and raise you an "aw phooey".  ;)


Okie Dokie!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 17, 2020, 11:51:34 PM
Wow!  Tom you did one hell of a job on that.
Doesn't even look like you touched the area.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 18, 2020, 07:34:46 AM
Tom


Looking great! It's also great to see you guys all getting along, too. The videos really make the layout come alive.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: Jerry on May 17, 2020, 11:51:34 PM
Wow!  Tom you did one hell of a job on that.
Doesn't even look like you touched the area.


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment. I've learned over the years that when making changes, I only needed to remove the area where the change will be. The area around the repair was wet but when left undisturbed, it dries back as if I just added the scenery.  8)

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 18, 2020, 07:34:46 AM
Tom


Looking great! It's also great to see you guys all getting along, too. The videos really make the layout come alive.


John,

Thank you as well my friend.  We held off for almost six weeks but decided we would give it a try, no hand shaking or arm bumps.

We do enjoy doing the videos, gives us something else to do on a few Saturdays.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 20, 2020, 02:40:45 PM
I haven't posted here in quite some time. However, I've been very busy painting brass for the Atlantic and Southern RR.

Yesterday, Friday, the Judge and I made two videos of ACL #42 passing through a sand hill cut at Perkins' Farm. 

Here is a bird's eye view of ACL #42.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzIWffjt1dE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzIWffjt1dE)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on June 20, 2020, 03:17:28 PM
Neat shot with the  train coming thru the gulch..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on June 20, 2020, 08:00:21 PM
Very impressive Tom....Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 21, 2020, 08:17:37 AM
Great video and scenery Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on June 21, 2020, 11:52:18 AM
Fantastic video Tom. The layout is really looking great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on June 21, 2020, 01:02:49 PM
Hey Tom looks like all that work is really paying dividends!!


A beautiful scene on a beautiful RR.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2020, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on June 20, 2020, 08:00:21 PM
Very impressive Tom....Dennis

Dennis,

Just getting caught up on all my threads. Thank you very much for the compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2020, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 21, 2020, 08:17:37 AM
Great video and scenery Tom.

Curt,

Thanks Butty, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2020, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on June 21, 2020, 11:52:18 AM
Fantastic video Tom. The layout is really looking great.


Thanks John, the videos are a lot of fun to do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2020, 03:06:12 PM
Quote from: Jerry on June 21, 2020, 01:02:49 PM
Hey Tom looks like all that work is really paying dividends!!


A beautiful scene on a beautiful RR.


Jerry


Jerry,

I tried to make it look like some of the photos I've seen in the ACL books. I'm very happy with East side of the layout.

Oh, thank you also for the very nice compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2020, 06:08:15 PM
In the next week or so, I'll be working again on this build thread. As many of you know, I've been busy painting and installing WOW sound in more of the A&S brass. To date, I've finished 6 and just about done with the 7th, the SRR MS-4. I have 6 or 7 left to do.

I'm going to take a month or so and do more on the layout by taking a break from the brass.

However, here is an update on the layout.

I'm a very generous person when it comes to the Atlantic and Southern Railroad. Often a few of the SBGs (Saturday Butty Group) come by to run trains and generally participate in some serious BSing.

One member, Greg,  just can't seem to keep his mind on railroading. You see, if he can't run a Greg Speed train, he does other stuff. In the photo shown below, this is yet another example of his miscreant deeds. This is what happens when I let him have "free range" of the railroad.

Can you believe it, a Florida Black bear smelling the north end of a south bound cow?

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110720174008.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 11, 2020, 08:00:34 PM
Shocking Tom, just shocking.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 11, 2020, 08:18:36 PM
I don't remembering doing this one.....but I'll take credit, it's funny as heck.....also I prefer my miscreant deeds to not only be free range, but also gluten free.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on July 11, 2020, 08:34:24 PM
I agree with Greg, pretty funny stuff. 


My question is how many other sight gags haven't been found yet?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 12, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Maybe that ol' bear wants a swimming buddy, or maybe it's thinking about a rump roast for dinner.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 12, 2020, 01:53:32 PM
Maybe he self identified as a cow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2020, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on July 11, 2020, 08:34:24 PM
I agree with Greg, pretty funny stuff. 


My question is how many other sight gags haven't been found yet?

Jerry,

I know he'll move something but I don't look for them. I just wait an eventually I'll find them.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 12, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Maybe that ol' bear wants a swimming buddy, or maybe it's thinking about a rump roast for dinner.


Larry,

Perfect, and very funny also.

Tom   ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2020, 02:25:03 PM
Here's a look at the new A&S decals. All the decals will be white. The Budd passenger car decals for the Atlantic and Southern will be black.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120720141936.jpeg)

Jim, owner of Highball Graphics is doing the decals and did the graphics.

https://www.highballgraphics.com/index.php/custom-decals/custom-waterslide-decals (https://www.highballgraphics.com/index.php/custom-decals/custom-waterslide-decals)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on July 12, 2020, 03:16:46 PM
ACL 1504,
             Wow! Nice looking graphics T, these will be a nice upgraded addition to the progression of your AS railroad. ;D  Jim does very nice decals that's for sure. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 12, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Tom those decals will look great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: maandg on July 13, 2020, 12:09:24 AM
That's a very MA&G inspired lettering scheme on that box car!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 08:03:31 AM
Quote from: tct855 on July 12, 2020, 03:16:46 PM
ACL 1504,
             Wow! Nice looking graphics T, these will be a nice upgraded addition to the progression of your AS railroad. ;D  Jim does very nice decals that's for sure. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanx Thom...

Thom,

I'm very pleased with the decals Jim did. Of course, they were a combination of the AB&C Railroad and the Magnolia Route. Refer to the explanation below for the history.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 08:04:09 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 12, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Tom those decals will look great.

Curt,

Thanks very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 08:26:41 AM
Quote from: maandg on July 13, 2020, 12:09:24 AM
That's a very MA&G inspired lettering scheme on that box car!


Cliff,

Hey, good to see you are still checking in on the forum. Yes, the inspiration came from two sources, you and the AB&C Railroad. Certainly it's only fair to give you the credit for the new Atlantic and Southern layout. After Pam and I visited you that fateful summer on June 6, 2013, I came home and in December of 2013 began the removal of the old A&S RR.

Your Mississippi, Alabama and Gulf scenery really did inspire me. The scenery on the current Atlantic and Southern RR is a result of me trying to make the scenery look as southern as possible. Our visit to your beautiful Magnolia Route was the best thing for my desire to make a model railroad into a railroad model.

My A&S slogan came from your Magnolia Route. What a great slogan and very fitting for the A&S RR as well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130720074109.jpeg)

The source for the A&S logo came from the Atlanta, Birmingham and Coast Railroad. The AB&C was later purchased and taken over by the Atlantic Coast Line.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130720074127.jpeg)

So you see Cliff, you are the inspiration for the new Atlantic and Southern RR. And, I thank you very much my friend for the two visits and your friendship.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 08:38:20 AM
Cliff,

By the way, this is the PFM L&A D-22 Ten Wheeler Pam bought from you for me on our last visit to the Magnolia Route.

Tom  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280520165528.jpeg)

http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=5182.0 (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=5182.0)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on July 13, 2020, 09:19:02 AM
The new logo's look terrific.  Now you'll have a project to get a certain percentage of rolling stock decaled for the A&S.  Are you going to buy new rolling stock, undecorated, to decal or is some of the existing rolling stock heading to the paint shop?

As far as Greg and the bear incident what can say?   ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
Bob,

I have several undec. 40' boxcars to decal. But getting some in the paint shop isn't out of the question either.

I think Curt may be responsible for the bear incident, not totally sure. I heard him asking Greg about moving stuff around one day. Greg always names it and claims it when he does something.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 13, 2020, 10:34:29 AM
Tom, if it was me I would admit it. I didn't  do it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 13, 2020, 10:37:33 AM
AhHa....the plot thickens.....the game is afoot (or is it a toe). Sherlock Holmes, where are you.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2020, 12:12:01 PM
Curt and Greg,

Not concerned whom may have moved the cow. It's all in good healthy fun.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on July 13, 2020, 01:05:22 PM
Hey Judge "How's the Cow?"   ;D


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 13, 2020, 01:46:02 PM
Dave may be onto something..... :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 13, 2020, 04:41:01 PM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful paint job on that one.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on July 13, 2020, 10:13:14 PM
Dave -About that old cow. . . . she walks, she talks, she's full of chalk. Etc.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 14, 2020, 09:01:06 AM
Quote from: Judge on July 13, 2020, 10:13:14 PM
Dave -About that old cow. . . . she walks, she talks, she's full of chalk. Etc.


What???  ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2020, 09:32:22 AM
Okay, I've let this go on long enough.  :o  Let's get back to my build thread. You can move this to the Saturday Report thread.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on July 14, 2020, 04:35:57 PM
Great progress Tom;

I've been slow to catch up due to computer issues. The new logo is neat.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on July 16, 2020, 08:23:48 AM
An office for the Judge?  http://www.besttrains.com/basics_ho_2011.html


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on July 16, 2020, 09:05:13 AM
Beautiful looking locomotive!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 16, 2020, 03:11:22 PM
Hey Tom:

Two great paint jobs. Both the Loco and box car look great.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:31:33 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on July 13, 2020, 04:41:01 PM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful paint job on that one.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you very much my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on July 14, 2020, 04:35:57 PM
Great progress Tom;

I've been slow to catch up due to computer issues. The new logo is neat.

Jim D


Jim,

Thanks very much. Hope you and the boss have a wonderful time up north. I got the idea of the logo from Cliff Powers.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: Jerry on July 16, 2020, 09:05:13 AM
Beautiful looking locomotive!!


Jerry


Jerry,

Much appreciated, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on July 16, 2020, 03:11:22 PM
Hey Tom:

Two great paint jobs. Both the Loco and box car look great.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, the loco I did and the boxcar was done by Cliff Powers for his Mississippi, Alabama and Gulf - The Magnolia Route.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:41:14 PM
After seven brass loco paint jobs, I'm back working on the layout for a couple months. I'm concentrating on the Large Tahope river area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173809.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173826.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
I sprayed the Tahope bridge support base with a rattle can of a concrete gray color.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173843.jpeg)

The Ho scale tallus, in my opinion, was to big so I filled the base with HO scale track ballast from Arizona Rock.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173856.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:48:15 PM
I used the same ballast to fill the Tahope Highway bridge supports. I glued them with matte medium.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173915.jpeg)

I used Woodland Scenics Earth Undercoat to paint over the earth sides of the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173930.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 21, 2020, 05:49:50 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173943.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210720173958.jpeg)

I'll color the river bed next.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 21, 2020, 07:15:00 PM
It's great to see you working on the layout again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on July 22, 2020, 09:11:16 AM
That's a pretty good size river!


Great start it will be fun watching this all come together.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on July 22, 2020, 09:24:24 AM
I agree with Jerry, big river, is it the St. Johns or Suwanee?  I use to fish on the St Johns south of Jacksonville. It sure was wide and wonderful. Caught my largest bass (little over 8 pounds) from the Green Cove area. Also caught a 3 pound Flounder there! I think that's about 30 miles from the river's mouth.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2020, 10:18:36 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 21, 2020, 07:15:00 PM
It's great to see you working on the layout again.

Curt,

Thanks and I agree, it's nice to be back doing something other than brass.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2020, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: Jerry on July 22, 2020, 09:11:16 AM
That's a pretty good size river!


Great start it will be fun watching this all come together.


Jerry


Jerry,

Yes, it is. This is why I'm planning on adding a structure or two and shoreline scenery. I have a few fantastic cypress trees to add to the banks.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2020, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on July 22, 2020, 09:24:24 AM
I agree with Jerry, big river, is it the St. Johns or Suwanee?  I use to fish on the St Johns south of Jacksonville. It sure was wide and wonderful. Caught my largest bass (little over 8 pounds) from the Green Cove area. Also caught a 3 pound Flounder there! I think that's about 30 miles from the river's mouth.

Jim D

Jim,

Thanks for stopping by. This is the Big Tahope River, fictional of course.

I'm very familiar with the Green Cove Springs area. I attended Bolles Military School in south Jacksonville in the early 60's. The school was located across from the Jax. Naval Air Station on the St. Johns River. I think the river was close to 1/2 mile across at that point.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on July 22, 2020, 11:23:01 AM
Glad to see you back at it.....looking forward to seeing how the river scene comes together.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 24, 2020, 06:56:54 AM
While I would selfishly prefer to see you post something daily documenting layout progress, I'm impressed by how you are able to work on the layout for a stretch, then a structure, then painting brass, and back and forth while giving the Mrs. attention as well along with your domestic duties.

Well done, Tom.  Example for all of us.   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 24, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
Hey Tom:

Great bridges. they will look great when completely installed.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 22, 2020, 11:23:01 AM
Glad to see you back at it.....looking forward to seeing how the river scene comes together.  :)


Greg,

Glsd to be back at it as well. In the coming weeks, I'm taking a break from running, painting, fixing/repairing trains and concentrate 100% on the river area to get it done.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 24, 2020, 06:56:54 AM
While I would selfishly prefer to see you post something daily documenting layout progress, I'm impressed by how you are able to work on the layout for a stretch, then a structure, then painting brass, and back and forth while giving the Mrs. attention as well along with your domestic duties.

Well done, Tom.  Example for all of us.


Larry,

Thank you for the kind compliment. I do try to keep my skills going on all fronts. LOL, the front most important is the domestic one. A guy just can't let any weeds grow in the fruit garden.

Again, thank you very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on July 24, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
Hey Tom:

Great bridges. they will look great when completely installed.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you also for the kind words. I do want to get this area, the bridge and river, finished sooner rather than later. I have many neat ideas for the river area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
This morning I used some spackling compound to cover the screw impressions and the rough spots on the plywood surface.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260720175128.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260720175140.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
When the spackle was dry, I painted the area with full strength Golden Fluid Acrylics Raw Umber.

This is one of two coats to seal the area. Later, I'll use other Golden Brand Acrylics colors to color the river area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260720175154.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260720175208.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on July 27, 2020, 08:37:40 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
When the spackle was dry, I painted the area with full strength Golden Fluid Acrylics Raw Umber.

This is one of two coats to seal the area. Later, I'll use other Golden Brand Acrylics colors to color the river area.


This is certainly timely for me.  I'm roughing out a scene for my layout inspired by the MEC trestle and bridge at Wiscasset where it traverses the Sheepscot River and the mud flats. I'll be focusing on your colors for the water and muds.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2020, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Blazeman on July 27, 2020, 08:37:40 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
When the spackle was dry, I painted the area with full strength Golden Fluid Acrylics Raw Umber.

This is one of two coats to seal the area. Later, I'll use other Golden Brand Acrylics colors to color the river area.


This is certainly timely for me.  I'm roughing out a scene for my layout inspired by the MEC trestle and bridge at Wiscasset where it traverses the Sheepscot River and the mud flats. I'll be focusing on your colors for the water and muds.


Larry,

Thanks for following along on this adventure. I'll be doing the river colors in the next few days. I'll show you what colors I'm using and how I do it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Nothing to show here but this morning I put the second and final base coat on the river. Next will be the additional coloring of the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on July 28, 2020, 12:09:06 PM
Hey Tom:

this scene is coming along quite well. Can't wait to see it finished.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2020, 02:34:59 PM
Karl,

Thank you, I can't wait either.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2020, 02:36:38 PM
Howdy all,

This morning the Judge and I put the Southern MS-4, 2-8-2 through the paces. We tried it last Saturday but one of the side rod screws backed out and wedged between the main rod and right side rods.

After an extensive repair in the Atlantic and Southern Shop, the screw was removed, main rod straightened and the side rod screw was reset.

What you see is a drone view of the Southern MS-4 working hard on the east side of the Atlantic and Southern Railroad.

Hope you enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiJpdIFkWfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiJpdIFkWfE)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 01, 2020, 03:04:24 PM
Great video. It runs like a top.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 02, 2020, 08:12:28 AM
Curt,

Thank you, we had fun doing that one.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on August 02, 2020, 09:30:29 AM
That was one smooth drone..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on August 02, 2020, 09:49:46 AM
Really long run through the country.  Very realistic. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on August 03, 2020, 11:17:23 AM
Great video Tom - nice job on the SRR Mike. By the way, got the eccentric cranks for the Key Mike and they look like direct replacements albeit with a set screw. I got mine through Greenway Products.
Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2020, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 02, 2020, 09:30:29 AM
That was one smooth drone..... ;)

Greg,

I appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2020, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on August 02, 2020, 09:49:46 AM
Really long run through the country.  Very realistic.

Larry,

This was a fun one to do. A little jerky but I'm getting there. Thanks for watching the video.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2020, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on August 03, 2020, 11:17:23 AM
Great video Tom - nice job on the SRR Mike. By the way, got the eccentric cranks for the Key Mike and they look like direct replacements albeit with a set screw. I got mine through Greenway Products.
Doug


Doug,

Thank you. The mike was nice to do. PFM/United and Key locos are no problem.

Glad you got the eccentric cranks for the loco. I'll have to check the Greenway Products info.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2020, 05:52:23 PM
I needed to cut back into the river bank so the dock pilings would fit and the two docks align with each other.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030820174938.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030820174954.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2020, 05:55:04 PM
I then back filled the river bank with the Fusion Fiber.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030820175011.jpeg)

While the material was still damp, I pressed the back pilings into the fiber, removed the dock and let the stuff dry over night.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030820174923.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on August 08, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
Tom, I really enjoyed your last video. You have raised the bar that all model railroaders try ro reach. Thank you for all you do to promote our hobby. Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on August 08, 2020, 09:35:33 AM
Hey Tom:

This looks really good so far. Can't wait to see what you do with it. I love dock scenes. The 2 Campbell docks and buildings that go with them was one of my favorites. I built it many years ago and donated it to one of the Model RR clubs around here.

Karl

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on August 08, 2020, 09:49:25 AM
Tom


The docks look great, I love the variation you achieved with the stain.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 08, 2020, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on August 08, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
Tom, I really enjoyed your last video. You have raised the bar that all model railroaders try ro reach. Thank you for all you do to promote our hobby. Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you, much appreciate the kind and generous compliment. We have fun doing the videos. Happy you are enjoying the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 08, 2020, 01:32:22 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 08, 2020, 09:35:33 AM
Hey Tom:

This looks really good so far. Can't wait to see what you do with it. I love dock scenes. The 2 Campbell docks and buildings that go with them was one of my favorites. I built it many years ago and donated it to one of the Model RR clubs around here.

Karl

Karl

Karl,

I hope to finish the docks with in the next week, no promises. I built that entire Campbell series as well and it was a lot of fun. Sold it to another modeler some 30+ years ago.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 08, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 08, 2020, 09:49:25 AM
Tom


The docks look great, I love the variation you achieved with the stain.

John,

Thank you for the compliment on the docks. I appreciate you following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on August 08, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
Nice Tom. Great woodwork on the docks...and level, as always!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 08, 2020, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: cuse on August 08, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
Nice Tom. Great woodwork on the docks...and level, as always!


John


John,

Thank for stopping by and for the compliment on the docks. This is a fun build. I have so many ideas for scratch building but I'm not sure they'll all get attention.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 21, 2020, 05:27:55 PM
I haven't posted here lately much to the disappointment of many followers. Truth be told I have been busy liquidating my friend's, Jim Miller, railroad stuff. Ebay has kept me quite busy listing and selling Jim's lifelong collection of goodies.

I do promise to get back to my layout in a few more weeks or at least a month.

That said, I have a story to go along with selling Jim's collection for his lovely wife Claire.

I met Jim and Claire some 40+ years ago. When I found out he was from Michigan, I gave him an old, not so old back in the mid 70's, Varney Michigan Central gondola. He used the gondola in revenue service on his railroad for 40+ years.

When the Judge and I met with Claire to get some of his stuff to start the liquidation process, I was given this box and a note in Jim's own printing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210820172340.jpeg)

Yes, in the box was the Michigan Central gondola.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210820172355.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 21, 2020, 05:32:20 PM
The Michigan Central gondola is now in revenue service on the Atlantic and Southern Railroad.

It is still in excellent condition with nothing broken on the freight car. I did convert the trucks to Athearn sprung trucks when I gave Jim the car.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210820172411.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210820172427.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on August 21, 2020, 05:41:27 PM
Jim also loved the Pere Marquette Berkshire locomotives. In his estate we found an MTH PM Berkshire, 2-8-4. Today, the Juidge and I ran the loco on the Atlantic and Southern Railroad in honor of our dear friend and brother, Jim Miller.

Of course this is the loco used as a model for the movie The Polar Express.

The Michigan Central gondola is just behind the tender of the 2-8-4 in the YouTube video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 21, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
Great video and tribute to Jim. Well done Bill and Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on August 21, 2020, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 21, 2020, 05:41:27 PM
Jim also loved the Pere Marquette Berkshire locomotives. In his estate we found an MTH PM Berkshire, 2-8-4. Today, the Juidge and I ran the loco on the Atlantic and Southern Railroad in honor of our dear friend and brother, Jim Miller.

Of course this is the loco used as a model for the movie The Polar Express.

The Michigan Central gondola is just behind the tender of the 2-8-4 in the YouTube video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s)


Tom and Bill

Jim's locomotive looks great on the Atlantic & Southern - great tribute to our forum friend.  He is missed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on August 21, 2020, 09:17:38 PM
A nice way to to commemorate your friendship with the man.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on August 22, 2020, 09:02:17 AM
Hey Tom:

Nice looking Gon. Thanks for sharing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 21, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
Great video and tribute to Jim. Well done Bill and Tom.

Curt,

Thank you, he is surely missed.  :'(

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 21, 2020, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 21, 2020, 05:41:27 PM
Jim also loved the Pere Marquette Berkshire locomotives. In his estate we found an MTH PM Berkshire, 2-8-4. Today, the Juidge and I ran the loco on the Atlantic and Southern Railroad in honor of our dear friend and brother, Jim Miller.

Of course this is the loco used as a model for the movie The Polar Express.

The Michigan Central gondola is just behind the tender of the 2-8-4 in the YouTube video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=797C2AQFyRE&t=56s)





Tom and Bill

Jim's locomotive looks great on the Atlantic & Southern - great tribute to our forum friend.  He is missed.


John,

Thank you very much, he was a great friend for 45+ years.

Tom  :'(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on August 21, 2020, 09:17:38 PM
A nice way to to commemorate your friendship with the man.

Larry,

Thank you very much my friend.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 22, 2020, 09:02:17 AM
Hey Tom:

Nice looking Gon. Thanks for sharing.

Karl

Karl,

You are very welcome and thank you for posting.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
Today the Judge and I shot this video of the Crescent Limited on the Atlantic and Southern RR.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFNePqLmB3I&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFNePqLmB3I&t=2s)


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 05, 2020, 02:48:53 PM
Good looking train Tom...... :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 05, 2020, 04:44:58 PM
Thank you Greg, much appreciated.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 05, 2020, 05:50:21 PM
Nice video.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: RWL on September 06, 2020, 11:55:35 AM
Tom,


The other board member of the A&S reported a problem with motive power. I am well aware of BLI's frame swelling, I had a few that were problematic, to the point I cut a shell off the frame. To my knowledge only the F units were affected with the "Zinc Pest", the E unit and Shark frames that I have are stable. I too contacted BLI, told them what the problem was and asked what can you do to fix this. I didn't have one, I had six and the problem arose because of incorrect paint and lettering on Pennsy units.

As you stated they were courteous and helpful and I was told what it would cost to replace the frames. Considering I had these, boxed, for well over a decade the cost of getting them running again was worth it. I was told that I would receive more than just frames, possibly mounting screws, maybe a truck with sideframes, maybe a PC board, but not a bare frame. True to their word the frames were not bare, all had trucks but one, sideframes too, all had speakers, some had decoders, some had motors, so the cost of replacement was reasonable.

So, consider getting a few frames if your other BLI engines are as old as mina are, it could be worth your while, plus they paid shipping. No matter what you do, just some information on my experience with them.

Stay safe and take care!
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 05, 2020, 05:50:21 PM
Nice video.


Curt,

Thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: RWL on September 06, 2020, 11:55:35 AM
Tom,


The other board member of the A&S reported a problem with motive power. I am well aware of BLI's frame swelling, I had a few that were problematic, to the point I cut a shell off the frame. To my knowledge only the F units were affected with the "Zinc Pest", the E unit and Shark frames that I have are stable. I too contacted BLI, told them what the problem was and asked what can you do to fix this. I didn't have one, I had six and the problem arose because of incorrect paint and lettering on Pennsy units.

As you stated they were courteous and helpful and I was told what it would cost to replace the frames. Considering I had these, boxed, for well over a decade the cost of getting them running again was worth it. I was told that I would receive more than just frames, possibly mounting screws, maybe a truck with sideframes, maybe a PC board, but not a bare frame. True to their word the frames were not bare, all had trucks but one, sideframes too, all had speakers, some had decoders, some had motors, so the cost of replacement was reasonable.

So, consider getting a few frames if your other BLI engines are as old as mina are, it could be worth your while, plus they paid shipping. No matter what you do, just some information on my experience with them.

Stay safe and take care!
Bob

Bob,

Thanks for the information. I did remove the BLI video from Public View and made it private.

One an other issue, after the video was posted, the Zinc Pest swelled to the point of expanding against the brass flywheel preventing it from running.

I'll call Melanie ( BLI Parts and Service) on Tuesday.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
I'm going to spend the next few weeks on the layout and some other smaller railroad related projects. The major project will be the large river area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171750.jpeg)

While that project is underway, I'll be working in this area as well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171806.jpeg)

First I'll paint the rails with Floquil Rail Brown. I'll need to let the Rail Brown dry and cure prior to painting the ties with Floquil Railroad Tie Brown. If I get impatient, and paint the tie brown, the solvent will reactivate the rail brown and mix the two colors.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 05:28:55 PM
I'm also going to be building the FOS Riverbend Chapel. It will go on the other side of the tracks, literally.

I'll need to do a urban renewal and remove some trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171820.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171836.jpeg)

This real estate section will need to be cleared and the ground prepped. I'm waiting on the Tahope Permitting Department to issue the permits.  :-X :-X

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 05:33:06 PM
Tree removal has begun prior to the permit.  :o


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171849.jpeg)

I also used a small brush to apply the Rail Brown to the rails. This was a little tricksie as the distance between the two levels is a little less than 18 inches.

This is where not having much hair and no brains comes in handy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060920171917.jpeg)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 06, 2020, 05:43:51 PM
It's great seeing you working on the layout again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2020, 06:10:01 PM
Curt,

Thanks, I'm very excited to be doing so. Can't wait until after cutting the grass tomorrow. Provided the south bound portion of my north bound body is still able to move. Cutting grass in the Florida heat will certainly drain all desire to work on the layout for the remainder of the day.

I'm starting at 6:30 AM. I bet some "do gooder" will call the PO PO on me. Hey, it's not like a work day. For me, it's Labor Day and I'll be laboring early in the day.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on September 07, 2020, 08:21:41 AM
How much territory do you have to mow, Tom?  Do you ride or push?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2020, 12:52:12 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on September 07, 2020, 08:21:41 AM
How much territory do you have to mow, Tom?  Do you ride or push?


Larry,

Not exactly sure of the yard sq. footage but it is big. I used to use a push mower in my youth but for the past 30 years I use a self propelled mower. I figure it is the equivalent of a good long walk.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070920124747.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070920124801.jpeg)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 07, 2020, 12:56:34 PM
The back yard is nothing but still needs mowing.

The train room/building is on the left in first photo.  Babe has her house in front and I have mine in the back.  8) 8)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070920124813.jpeg)

Train shed on the right in next photo.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070920124826.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on September 07, 2020, 06:47:14 PM
ACL 1504,

                Very Beautiful grounds!  Reflects what's in the train room... Thanx Thom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5T96LHnEWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4j2O-hj-o


   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on September 08, 2020, 06:41:25 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 link=topic=3848.msg145801#msg145801 date=

color=#800080]I'm starting at 6:30 AM. I bet some "do gooder" will call the PO PO on me. Hey, it's not like a work day. For me, it's Labor Day and I'll be laboring early in the day.[/color]

Tom  ;D



Layout looks great Tom. Lawn too...that PBA sticker on your mower will help with the Po Po  ;D


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on September 08, 2020, 08:07:41 AM
Nice looking property!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2020, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: tct855 on September 07, 2020, 06:47:14 PM
ACL 1504,

                Very Beautiful grounds!  Reflects what's in the train room... Thanx Thom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5T96LHnEWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5T96LHnEWw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4j2O-hj-o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4j2O-hj-o)





Thom,

Thank you, it has taken a few years to get what we have but well worth the time and effort.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2020, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: cuse on September 08, 2020, 06:41:25 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 link=topic=3848.msg145801#msg145801 date=

color=#800080]I'm starting at 6:30 AM. I bet some "do gooder" will call the PO PO on me. Hey, it's not like a work day. For me, it's Labor Day and I'll be laboring early in the day.[/color]

Tom  ;D



Layout looks great Tom. Lawn too...that PBA sticker on your mower will help with the Po Po  ;D


John

John,

Thank you. Always something to do in the yard or on the layout. All makes for a feeling of accomplishment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2020, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: Jerry on September 08, 2020, 08:07:41 AM
Nice looking property!!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you, been here since 1973.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on September 08, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
Hey Tom:

House looks just beautiful. Like your train room to. Beautiful pool.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on September 10, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Outstanding property, Tom.  Your family must enjoy it immensly.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2020, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on September 08, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
Hey Tom:

House looks just beautiful. Like your train room to. Beautiful pool.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks very much. Pam  :-*  spends her time in the pool and I spend my time building my empire.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2020, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on September 10, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Outstanding property, Tom.  Your family must enjoy it immensly.


Larry,

We do enjoy the house, Pam the pool and I the train shed. I even enjoy keeping the grass cut and healthy, well, most of the time anyway. We couldn't afford the pool when the kids were young or in college. This was our gift to us when they left the nest.

The original 12 X 12 of the train shed was a playhouse for the kids. I kept enlarging it, after they left, to the current 20 X 50 it is today.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2020, 05:05:56 PM
I want to get this river area done and I have lots of little stuff to do first.

Since Tahope had no EPA regulations in 1950, Hollis Pest Control needed a place to dump the very toxic waste. This is why Hollis built the business next to the river.

Two holes were drilled into the wall the size of the drain pipes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162327.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162357.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2020, 05:10:15 PM
I cut the two brass pipes on the Proxxon miter saw.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162342.jpeg)

I cut back some of the land mass. I then wet the area to reconstitute the Fusion Fibre.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162412.jpeg)

After a few minutes, I just pushed it down to the river bed.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 10, 2020, 05:11:41 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162427.jpeg)

The smaller drain is for the Auto Shop waste.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100920162442.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on September 11, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
Ah the good old days, the smell of dying fish, runaway algae blooms, the smell of kerosene. Then the EPA comes along and says to clean the place up. But that is in the future. Love the detailing.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 12, 2020, 08:57:35 AM
Very cool looking.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on September 12, 2020, 03:50:07 PM
Hey Tom,
Maybe you should put some dead fish down there.  I don't think anything could survive from what those folks at Hollis are flushing down the drain!

BTW, your house and train room look beautiful.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on September 13, 2020, 09:06:25 AM
Tom


I just got caught up on your thread.  You have a beautiful home and the modeling work is first class, too.  I really enjoy keeping up with your layout build - thank you for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2020, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on September 11, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
Ah the good old days, the smell of dying fish, runaway algae blooms, the smell of kerosene. Then the EPA comes along and says to clean the place up. But that is in the future. Love the detailing.

Jim D

Jim,

Thank you and thanks for stopping by. Not sure the EPA helped or hurt our environment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2020, 09:13:31 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 12, 2020, 08:57:35 AM
Very cool looking.


Thank you Curt.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2020, 09:15:33 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on September 12, 2020, 03:50:07 PM
Hey Tom,
Maybe you should put some dead fish down there.  I don't think anything could survive from what those folks at Hollis are flushing down the drain!

BTW, your house and train room look beautiful.

Bruce,

Thanks, much appreciated. I thought about something dead, maybe a body for the local PO PO. I don't think we can see HO scale fish, unless of course it 's a mass killing.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2020, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on September 13, 2020, 09:06:25 AM
Tom


I just got caught up on your thread.  You have a beautiful home and the modeling work is first class, too.  I really enjoy keeping up with your layout build - thank you for sharing it with us.


John,

Thank you for both very kind and generous compliments. The house and modeling are a labor of love. I also appreciate you following the build thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 13, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
C&O George Washington crossing the Suwannee River Lagoon bascule bridge, approaching Dixie Highway and Piney Woods.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViyhwzT1oZ8
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on September 13, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
Neat..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on September 13, 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Tom great idea with the pipes and waste spillage!


At first when I saw the wood chips thought you had termites!!!!!  :)


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on September 13, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
Some inspiration for what to do where the pipes come out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZHd08Y0vZc


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 13, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
Neat..... 8)


Thanks Greg!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2020, 02:21:50 PM
Quote from: Jerry on September 13, 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Tom great idea with the pipes and waste spillage!


At first when I saw the wood chips thought you had termites!!!!!  :)


Jerry

Jerry,

The spillage will also make for a nice little scene on it's own. We do have termites here but ones that big. LOL!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: deemery on September 13, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
Some inspiration for what to do where the pipes come out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZHd08Y0vZc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZHd08Y0vZc)


dave

Dave,

Dang, that is a lot of some kind of slimy fish. If my fish ingest the waste, I may have a river full of mutant fishies (sic).

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2020, 02:26:14 PM
I posted this information on the chapel build thread but thought I'd mention it here as well.

I want a small southern church in this area so I decided to go with just the main building and not the addition on the right.

This will also give me a larger area for the cemetery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160920135616.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160920135629.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: bparrish on September 16, 2020, 05:54:29 PM
Tom....

Is that the place where the crowd actually gets along with the preacher  ? ? ? ?

see ya
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on September 16, 2020, 07:51:12 PM
Quote from: bparrish on September 16, 2020, 05:54:29 PM
Tom....

Is that the place where the crowd actually gets along with the preacher  ? ? ? ?

see ya
Bob

Bob,

I'm not sure as yet. The preacher's name is Pastor Babble. We have to wait and see how the congregation responds.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on September 19, 2020, 05:26:30 PM
The congregation is going to have to open their wallets if they want sewer and water that far out of town.  And Tahope Power and Light Co. will want their share for the electricity.  Preacher Babble will have quite a challenge with the fundraising. At least the cemetery will provide work for the undertaker, I. Plantem.   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PaulS on September 19, 2020, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: Judge on September 19, 2020, 05:26:30 PM
The congregation is going to have to open their wallets if they want sewer and water that far out of town.  And Tahope Power and Light Co. will want their share for the electricity.  Preacher Babble will have quite a challenge with the fundraising. At least the cemetery will provide work for the undertaker, I. Plantem.


Great work as always Tom and Team !!!
Bill that undertaker must then be Isaac N. Plantem ....
All the best guys, be well and keep up the wonderful work on the A&S,
--Paul
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on September 20, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
Actually, the undertaker's name is Iben Gunna Plantem.  He has a helper whose name is, of course, Digger.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PaulS on September 20, 2020, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: Judge on September 20, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
Actually, the undertaker's name is Iben Gunna Plantem.  He has a helper whose name is, of course, Digger.


Excellent Bill !!!  :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:37:42 PM
Have you ever gotten to the point of wanting to do something and then realize two+ years have gone by and you still haven't done it?

Well, today I changed/did the thing I've had on my mind for two+ years. You've heard the Judge and I mention our bridges. There are three, one for each level. In the past, I've leaned them up against the layout only to knock them over and or break the rails out of the ties plates.

Recently, over the past 8 months, I've been laying them on the Summit level of the layout. They still get in the way here also.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271020142819.jpeg)

I finally got off my a++ and hung them on the ends of the two book cases.

I drilled holes in the ends and screwed in two hooks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271020142837.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
I screwed in an eye screw on each bridge. I then hung them as shown below. Up off the layout and off the floor.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271020142850.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271020142906.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:42:19 PM
Now I have this portion of the layout back.  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271020142922.jpeg)

Not to worry, I'll find something else to put here so it can be in the way later as well. :-X
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on October 27, 2020, 02:47:34 PM
That hotel is great! Is that a kit?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:51:00 PM
A few weeks ago we decided to move out POL (petroleum, oil and lubricants) Train. We have some very old tankers in this one. Starting with the Republic three dome tank car and the next six cars are all Athearn. Each of these cars are 40+ years old and still in revenue service. Nothing is broken or missing on any of the cars.

As a child, I did blow up model cars and planes with Cherry Bombs and M80 firecracker. However, I didn't tear up my trains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofK0t_kJfYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofK0t_kJfYI)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on October 27, 2020, 02:47:34 PM
That hotel is great! Is that a kit?


Craig,

No, it's a Heinz 57 scratch build.  8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on October 27, 2020, 02:54:42 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on October 27, 2020, 02:47:34 PM
That hotel is great! Is that a kit?


Craig,

No, it's a Heinz 57 scratch build.  8)

Amazing. Do you have a build post for it?


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on October 27, 2020, 02:54:42 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 27, 2020, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on October 27, 2020, 02:47:34 PM
That hotel is great! Is that a kit?


Craig,

No, it's a Heinz 57 scratch build.  8)

Amazing. Do you have a build post for it?


Tom  ;D

Craig.

No sorry, I traded this for some Jordan vehicles. John Mancuso got this off Ebay some years ago. There are some imperfections on it that I don't like. I plan on scratch building my own version in the future.

I'll get some extra photos up and show you all that is on the structure. I traded it as it will go perfectly in the "other side of the tracks" section on my layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on November 02, 2020, 08:05:21 AM
That Hotel will look great with Tom's city scenery around it. I purchased it on a whim because it looked really great. I quickly realized it didn't really go with my New England Backwoods narrow gauge theme...It looked like the Eiffel Tower surrounded by one story clapboard shacks  :o .


Good job with the bridge storage Tom.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on November 03, 2020, 02:32:40 PM
IMPERIAL HOTEL - The A&S always has a couple of rooms reserved at the Imperial Hotel for out-of-town railroaders who get stuck in Tahope overnight.  The A&S spares no expense to make our railroaders comfortable in the finest hotel accommodations available.  Sometimes the call boys have to be very considerate and only knock on the doors to awaken the crews.  One small matter of inconvenience is the single bath located at the end of the hall on each floor.  But each room is provided with a pitcher of water and a washbasin for the morning toilette.   There is a bar located on the ground floor but no food service.  The crews eat at Sweaty Betty's on their way to the roundhouse.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on November 03, 2020, 05:52:54 PM
I can picture that.
Couple more 1792's, I'll be able to picture anything.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on November 03, 2020, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: cuse on November 02, 2020, 08:05:21 AM
That Hotel will look great with Tom's city scenery around it. I purchased it on a whim because it looked really great. I quickly realized it didn't really go with my New England Backwoods narrow gauge theme...It looked like the Eiffel Tower surrounded by one story clapboard shacks  :o .


Good job with the bridge storage Tom.


John

Did you purchase it pre-built, out of interest? Love it a lot.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 04, 2020, 06:40:37 AM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on November 03, 2020, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: cuse on November 02, 2020, 08:05:21 AM
That Hotel will look great with Tom's city scenery around it. I purchased it on a whim because it looked really great. I quickly realized it didn't really go with my New England Backwoods narrow gauge theme...It looked like the Eiffel Tower surrounded by one story clapboard shacks  :o .


Good job with the bridge storage Tom.


John

Did you purchase it pre-built, out of interest? Love it a lot.


Craig,

John told me he purchased it built. It is missing an awning over the doors.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 11, 2020, 07:07:58 PM
Wow, it's been two months since I worked on the layout. Time sure does go by quickly when busy with other projects. As they say, "Time lost can never be found."

I've been very busy in helping Claire move/sell Jim's trains. I've been at it for the past three months plus. I now have all Jim's trains and other railroad related items here at the house. I'll get back selling on Ebay the first of the year or February at the latest.

For now, I plan to concentrate on the Atlantic and Southern Railroad. I have many projects in my head needing to be completed by the end of the year. A self imposed deadline if you will.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 11, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
I look forward to seeing your progress.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on November 11, 2020, 09:37:41 PM
Great to hear your back working on the layout Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 12, 2020, 02:04:15 PM
A GREAT DAY!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on November 12, 2020, 04:57:23 PM
Hey Tom:

That's a great lantern collection. Thanks for sharing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 11, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
I look forward to seeing your progress.


Curt,

Thank you, so am I!  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on November 11, 2020, 09:37:41 PM
Great to hear your back working on the layout Tom.

John,

It's long overdue for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 12, 2020, 02:04:15 PM
A GREAT DAY!

Cheers, Mark.

Cheers Mark,

A GREAT AND HAPPY DAY.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:28:04 PM
Karl,

Thank you. The lantern collection is from my friends, Bill and Kris Cutler. They gifted me the lanterns when they moved to NC. What you see is not quite half of what I have room to display.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:33:31 PM
These next series of posts to the A&S build thread aren't really exciting but none the less very important. Today, I worked on adding the other two support posts on the north side of the river area.

These are 1/4 inch steel threaded rods and support the upper level. You've read where the Judge refers to this upper level as The Summit Level.

Here are the two steel rods on the south side of the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120172153.jpeg)

More in a few. I'm going to need a Diet Pepsi for the rest.  :P
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:43:47 PM
The planned distance between the south side and north side supports is 38".  The benchwork is level above the south supports.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120173901.jpeg)

38" to the left and the benchwork is way off level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171359.jpeg)

I see benchwork as a model. When the base is off, the higher you go the more the structure is off. Level benchwork will mean level track later. So, yes, this is boring but very necessary and important.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
A look at the north side above the river area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171338.jpeg)

I used the 4' level and marked a space where the 1/2" hole will be drilled on the underside of the 1X3.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171414.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on November 12, 2020, 05:49:38 PM
Hello Tom, I am very impressed with all the work and effort by you to help your friend's wife sell off his railroad items. You are a great ambassador for our hobby and a fine gentleman.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 05:50:24 PM
Okay, measure twice and drill hole once.  :-X

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171428.jpeg)

Hole drilled in the second level benchwork. The washer will give me some support for the nut on the rod.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171441.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on November 12, 2020, 05:49:38 PM
Hello Tom, I am very impressed with all the work and effort by you to help your friend's wife sell off his railroad items. You are a great ambassador for our hobby and a fine gentleman.   Jeff

Jeff,

Thank you for the very kind comment. I've known Jim and Claire Miller for nearly 50 years. We all agreed to help each other if and when the time came.

Jim is one of the original Saturday Butty Group members. We used to meet once a month on Saturday but as time passed we have not been as active as in the past. The Judge still comes every Saturday.

Our original group members are Tom Langford (ACL1504), Bob Butts (Reading Bob), Bill Eaton (The Judge), Jim Miller (Jimmillho), Greg DeMayo (Greg DeMayo) and John Mancuso (Cuse). A few years ago we added Bill and Kris Cutler (PennsyJ1) and Curt Webb (PRR Modeler).

Thank you again, I'm happy to help Claire. This is the second estate I've help liquidate in the past two years.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 06:04:57 PM
The rod was installed and checked for being level. I used the nuts on the threaded shaft to level the benchwork. The weight of the benchwork and plywood  holds it all in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171605.jpeg)

Now this end of the benchwork is level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171619.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 06:07:45 PM
By tightening or loosing this nut, the benchwork can be raised or lowered to level. I could also use the top nut to achieve the same result.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171500.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171528.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 12, 2020, 06:11:21 PM
I put the pink foam back around the area. It will be covered by scenery later.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171637.jpeg)

I did the other side in the same way. When done, I made the final adjustments to the nuts to achieve level benchwork.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121120171652.jpeg)

Level, north, south, east and west.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 12, 2020, 06:59:34 PM
Great progress Tom. It wouldn't dare be not level. ;D You are sure speaking the truth about level benchwork. I have seen how much easier level benchwork is when laying track.

Have you put the river in yet?

I would sure love to come down and see you guys but I'm in the same type situation as Bob. :( (with daughter and grandkids).
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on November 13, 2020, 07:18:43 AM
Tom,


I think I speak for everyone when I say it is great to have you back working on the A&S!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on November 13, 2020, 08:52:08 AM
Atta Boy Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on November 13, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
Tom;

Great seeing you the other day and love the tread, glad to see another section underway.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on November 13, 2020, 09:32:05 AM
Great to see some layout progress Tom.  I know you've been busy with lot's of different things.  Sure wish I could get down there for a visit but I just can't risk it while my wife's working in an elementary school (aka petri dish).  The stories I hear make me shudder.  Might be able to slip one in at the end of her X-Mas break when I know she hasn't been at work for a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 13, 2020, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 12, 2020, 06:59:34 PM
Great progress Tom. It wouldn't dare be not level. ;D You are sure speaking the truth about level benchwork. I have seen how much easier level benchwork is when laying track.

Have you put the river in yet?

I would sure love to come down and see you guys but I'm in the same type situation as Bob. :( (with daughter and grandkids).

Curt,

Thank you. We will all get together when the time is right.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 13, 2020, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 13, 2020, 07:18:43 AM
Tom,


I think I speak for everyone when I say it is great to have you back working on the A&S!


Jerry,

Thanks for the comment and encouragement. I'm very happy to be back working on the layout. As they say in France, "Je suis content"!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 13, 2020, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 13, 2020, 08:52:08 AM
Atta Boy Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 13, 2020, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on November 13, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
Tom;

Great seeing you the other day and love the tread, glad to see another section underway.

Jim D


Jim,

I also enjoyed our visit. By the way, are you missing a box of small WS structures? If so, I still have them.  :P

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on November 13, 2020, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on November 13, 2020, 09:32:05 AM
Great to see some layout progress Tom.  I know you've been busy with lot's of different things.  Sure wish I could get down there for a visit but I just can't risk it while my wife's working in an elementary school (aka petri dish).  The stories I hear make me shudder.  Might be able to slip one in at the end of her X-Mas break when I know she hasn't been at work for a couple of weeks.

Bob,

Nice to be back on the layout. Its been much to long. The weekend after Christmas sounds good to me.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on November 13, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Nice looking level!!  ;)


Glad to see that work continues on this beautiful layout!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on November 13, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Looks like a good system.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Jerry on November 13, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Nice looking level!!  ;)


Glad to see that work continues on this beautiful layout!!


Jerry


Jerry,

Thanks very much. This past month has really kicked my butt. I'm back now a little at a time and will be posting a short update later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on November 13, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Looks like a good system.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

So far this system has worked very well. I'm very pleased with how it works and turned out. Thank you for stopping by.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 12:58:10 PM
This morning I was feeling much better and decided to start the painting of the river bottom. This is the first of two coats. The second coat will blend the colors better. This just gives me an idea of how it will look and if necessary the changes will be made on the second coat.

Note: The plywood pattern won't show when the water is added.

These are the water based colors I chose for the river. I used these same Golden paints in the Suwannee River Lagoon area but the color blending is much different.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260516185947.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
In the next couple of photos you can see the paint is still wet. Later you can see how it looks once dry.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220124356.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220124413.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 01:00:47 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220124429.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220124445.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220124507.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 10, 2020, 01:28:35 PM
Woo-Hoo!!!!  He's back! 

So glad you're feeling well enough to start enjoying yourself again! 

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on December 10, 2020, 01:28:53 PM
Great colors here, Tom.

Will you be adding clear resin on top? Maybe Mod Podge?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on December 10, 2020, 01:47:58 PM
Great to see you back Tom!  The water colors are excellent.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 10, 2020, 01:28:35 PM
Woo-Hoo!!!!  He's back! 

So glad you're feeling well enough to start enjoying yourself again!


Butty Bob,

Thank you very much, I can't tell you how great it feels to be back on the layout after the Covid-19 crap.  I'm not physically 100% yet but my enthusiasm is 100%.

Butty Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on December 10, 2020, 01:28:53 PM
Great colors here, Tom.

Will you be adding clear resin on top? Maybe Mod Podge?


Craig,

Thank you. I won't be adding the usual clear resin but I will be using the Magic Water by Unreal Details.

https://www.unrealdetails.com/product-info

This is a two part resin and the same stuff I used on the Suwannee River Lagoon area. It takes about 5 days to completely dry. It does dry clear and never yellows like the other products.

Once it dries, I'll add waves by using the Mod Podge.

Here are two photos, including the dust, of the lagoon area and the deeper channel area. I have about 1/4" of the Magic Water coated with Mod Pofge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220142244.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220142258.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on December 10, 2020, 01:47:58 PM
Great to see you back Tom!  The water colors are excellent.

John,

Thank you my friend, I'm very happy to be back on the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 10, 2020, 04:24:34 PM
Tom,
I can't tell you how wonderful it is to see you posting again on this thread.  I wish you, Pam and Joyce a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

That crazy guy in Idaho, the Diet Pepsi Kid.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on December 10, 2020, 04:27:31 PM
Glad to see your back and feeling much better.  Now we can see some more of the wonderful stuff you do on your layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 10, 2020, 04:24:34 PM
Tom,
I can't tell you how wonderful it is to see you posting again on this thread.  I wish you, Pam and Joyce a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

That crazy guy in Idaho, the Diet Pepsi Kid.
;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

It sure is great being back, even if not at 100%. I'm sure Diet Pepsi didn't help get me over the hump but it didn't hurt either.  ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: sdrees on December 10, 2020, 04:27:31 PM
Glad to see your back and feeling much better.  Now we can see some more of the wonderful stuff you do on your layout.

Steve,

Thank you also, it is good to be back working on the layout. My primary focus in on the river area now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 05:07:19 PM
Here's a little Throw Back Thursday,

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160719.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180130.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 10, 2020, 05:12:46 PM
After -


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175314.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101220171203.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on December 10, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
ACL 1504,
         Awh, I've forgotten about the south's bulkhead flat cars (one of my favorite type bulkhead cars).  Thanks for posting those forgetmenots.

If you will excuse me, I have a craving for an orange now.
                                                                                        Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 10, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Great to see you posting Tom. You really nailed the river colors.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 11, 2020, 04:20:15 AM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful job. Your scenery always amzes me.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on December 11, 2020, 07:58:33 AM
Glad to see you posting Tom. Your throw back pics remind how your current layout really captures the scenery of our region so effectively...Well done! Hope to see you soon.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 11, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Tom I guess all those oranges helped you get back on your feet!!  ;)


Beautiful scenery!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 11, 2020, 08:40:01 AM
Looks like the ole' Tom is back..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 12, 2020, 03:43:25 PM
Tom - I'm glad to see water finally making its way to that riverbed.  And thanks for the throwbacks.  It seems like onlly yesterday when we were planting orange trees. 

                                                                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rD6at8IXo
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: tct855 on December 10, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
ACL 1504,
         Awh, I've forgotten about the south's bulkhead flat cars (one of my favorite type bulkhead cars).  Thanks for posting those forgetmenots.

If you will excuse me, I have a craving for an orange now.
                                                                                        Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the bulkhead flats are nice cars and you can use various loads on them. I'll try to get better at posting some TBT tidbits.

Hope your orange was good.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 10, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Great to see you posting Tom. You really nailed the river colors.

Curt,

Nice to be back in the layout saddle. The river did turn out better than expected.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 11, 2020, 04:20:15 AM
Hey Tom:

Beautiful job. Your scenery always amzes me.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you for the very kind compliment, very much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: cuse on December 11, 2020, 07:58:33 AM
Glad to see you posting Tom. Your throw back pics remind how your current layout really captures the scenery of our region so effectively...Well done! Hope to see you soon.


John


John,

Thank you very much. The southern scenery is what really brings this layout into the true South.

You are welcome anytime Butty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 11, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Tom I guess all those oranges helped you get back on your feet!!  ;)


Beautiful scenery!


Jerry


Jerry,

Come to think of it, I think I did go through two gallons of Florida Orange Juice during my experience.

Thank you on the scenery compliment, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 11, 2020, 08:40:01 AM
Looks like the ole' Tom is back..... ;)


Greg,

I know the "old" Tom is back, at least for now.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 12, 2020, 03:43:25 PM
Tom - I'm glad to see water finally making its way to that riverbed.  And thanks for the throwbacks.  It seems like onlly yesterday when we were planting orange trees. 

                                                                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rD6at8IXo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rD6at8IXo)

Judge, AKA: Bill -

I'm glad the H2O is making its was down the river as well. Must be some sort of beaver dam upstream.  It has been several months of outside influence blocking my way. On it now though.

The TBT is fun and I hope to do more next Thursday. Maybe I'll show our progress as the orange trees were planted.

Nice video.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:27:59 PM
I've been busy on the river area but also got side tracked on putting up the Babe's outside Christmas lights. Many little projects are needed to be completed prior to the water being poured.

I started with the spill pipes from the Pest Control site. This is going to be nasty stuff and no EPA back in the late 40's early 50's.

I started by cutting two different sizes of brass tubing to a random length. I painted them with one coat of Floquil Roof Brown. The paint was semi-thick and not usable. I opened the jar and added a few drops of thinner to the paint. I then used one of those battery operated paint mixers. This is the first time I've ever used one. I worked perfectly. The paint, after mixing, came out just right as if it was a new bottle of paint.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121220170155.jpeg)

I grabbed a piece of clear Cellophane from the kitchen.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121220170210.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 12, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
I then cut several thin pieces of the Cellophane and glued one end into the pipes. I glued two strips of the Cellophane into each pipe. When dry I squeezes the Cellophane together and used white glue to stiffen it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121220170226.jpeg)

I'll add another coat of Roof Brown and weathering to the drainage pipes and color the Cellophane the nasty chemical color.

The following photo shows how the pipes will look coming out of the wall and spilling nasty chemicals into the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-121220170241.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on December 12, 2020, 05:56:33 PM
Great to see you back to work on the layout Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 13, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
The run-off from the pest control company is really nasty stuff.  The owners carefully mix the different leftover chemicals and add secret compounds to make a product called "Grip-u-tite," which is basically a combination of milk of magnesia and Kaopectate.  The product is used as an additive to the mixed drinks of politicians.  It makes you want to go but you can't.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on December 13, 2020, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 13, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
The run-off from the pest control company is really nasty stuff.  The owners carefully mix the different leftover chemicals and add secret compounds to make a product called "Grip-u-tite," which is basically a combination of milk of magnesia and Kaopectate.  The product is used as an additive to the mixed drinks of politicians.  It makes you want to go but you can't.
Sounds like Deblasolene.  (Although medically, I found C Rations had a similar effect....)
dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on December 13, 2020, 06:02:19 PM
Hello Tom, I'm so glad to see you back working on your layout. I hope that you and your family are feeling better in time for the holidays. I know that here in Arizona the plague has been at least as bad as in Florida. Here's hoping we all get a present early next year of a vaccine that works and will get us back to normal, whatever that is. Happy Holidays... Jeff

By the way, I really like the method you used for the effluent coming out of the drain pipes, I would like to find a place for that on my layout, it looks great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2020, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on December 12, 2020, 05:56:33 PM
Great to see you back to work on the layout Tom.


Jim,

Trust me my friend, I'm very very happy to be back.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2020, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: Judge on December 13, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
The run-off from the pest control company is really nasty stuff.  The owners carefully mix the different leftover chemicals and add secret compounds to make a product called "Grip-u-tite," which is basically a combination of milk of magnesia and Kaopectate.  The product is used as an additive to the mixed drinks of politicians.  It makes you want to go but you can't.

Funny!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: deemery on December 13, 2020, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 13, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
The run-off from the pest control company is really nasty stuff.  The owners carefully mix the different leftover chemicals and add secret compounds to make a product called "Grip-u-tite," which is basically a combination of milk of magnesia and Kaopectate.  The product is used as an additive to the mixed drinks of politicians.  It makes you want to go but you can't.
Sounds like Deblasolene.  (Although medically, I found C Rations had a similar effect....)
dave


Dave,

Many of the freeze dried crap had the same effect, internally speaking of course.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2020, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: nycjeff on December 13, 2020, 06:02:19 PM
Hello Tom, I'm so glad to see you back working on your layout. I hope that you and your family are feeling better in time for the holidays. I know that here in Arizona the plague has been at least as bad as in Florida. Here's hoping we all get a present early next year of a vaccine that works and will get us back to normal, whatever that is. Happy Holidays... Jeff

By the way, I really like the method you used for the effluent coming out of the drain pipes, I would like to find a place for that on my layout, it looks great.


Jeff,

Thank you Jeff, we are all feeling better. I'm still having some issues of getting very winded easily but this will improve with time.

The Cellophane for falling water is something I've been doing for years. You can even use this method for ditches. If you like this, you will really like how it turns out when finished.

Thanks for stopping by, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 16, 2020, 05:54:32 PM
Progress has been slow but steady on the A&S build thread. I should send China a bill for the lack of progress on the layout.

Today, I added some Liquitex Ultra Matte Medium to the river bank. This will give me a very nice seal. This will ensure that when the epoxy is poured, I won't have any unwanted leaks. I used this same method when adding the epoxy to the Suwannee River Lagoon area.

I got this for about $10 at Sam Flax.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191016135838.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 16, 2020, 05:56:53 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161220174022.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161220174038.jpeg)

I reached another milestone with the last two photos. I now have 5,202 photos on the A&S thread.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on December 16, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Tom, That's a huge milestone. love the bridge pier's and the waterway...Dennis
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 16, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
Can't wait to see the water pour.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on December 16, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
Hi Tom;

Nice to see you back in the saddle. I was afraid my bad jokes weakened your immune system during my November visit causing the China virus to knock you off your feet.  I promise I will stop with the police donut knock knock jokes.

Very interesting watching how you are bringing the river scene to life. I plan to start on the Silver Springs 1912 landing area soon so much of what you are discussing will be put to good use.

PS: Just hold the box of WS buildings till next we meet up, sorry I forgot them.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 17, 2020, 07:59:41 AM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 16, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
Hi Tom;

Nice to see you back in the saddle. I was afraid my bad jokes weakened your immune system during my November visit causing the China virus to knock you off your feet.  I promise I will stop with the police donut knock knock jokes.

Jim D


What knock knock jokes.....did I miss the good stuff?  ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on December 16, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Tom, That's a huge milestone. love the bridge pier's and the waterway...Dennis


Dennis,

Thank you for stopping by, much appreciated. I hope to get the water poured sometime next week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 16, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
Can't wait to see the water pour.


Curt,

You and me alike.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 16, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
Hi Tom;

Nice to see you back in the saddle. I was afraid my bad jokes weakened your immune system during my November visit causing the China virus to knock you off your feet.  I promise I will stop with the police donut knock knock jokes.

Very interesting watching how you are bringing the river scene to life. I plan to start on the Silver Springs 1912 landing area soon so much of what you are discussing will be put to good use.

PS: Just hold the box of WS buildings till next we meet up, sorry I forgot them.

Jim D


Jim,

Good to be back, trust me on that. One of the effects of Covid-19 is loss of memory. So, I don't remember any PO PO or knock knock jokes. Oh wait, that may by age related.   :-X

No problem on the box, now where did I put it?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 17, 2020, 07:59:41 AM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 16, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
Hi Tom;

Nice to see you back in the saddle. I was afraid my bad jokes weakened your immune system during my November visit causing the China virus to knock you off your feet.  I promise I will stop with the police donut knock knock jokes.

Jim D


What knock knock jokes.....did I miss the good stuff?  ???


Greg,

Not to worry, you didn't miss nuttin' honey.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
Unlike the Scenic Express Matte Medium, the Liquitex Ultra Matte Medium doesn't dry clear. It remains white even after drying.

I covered the Liquitex Matte Medium with a coat of Golden Fluid Acrylic Raw Umber. This will also serve as the base coat for the river bank scenery. The Raw Umber is still wet in the two photos below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171220113053.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171220113107.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:16:15 PM
Throwback Thursday -

Hard to believe three years have passed since the Perkin's Farm orange grove was planted.

Before - Woodland Scenics Orange Trees

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165904.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165946.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:18:37 PM
Tree bases removed -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717140054.jpeg)

Bases glued to the grid.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170015.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:22:25 PM
Tree bases and area covered with dirt -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162518.jpeg)

Weeds added to the bases -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162545.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
After -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155256.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155346.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2020, 07:25:36 PM
The banks look appropriately mucky.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:27:42 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155401.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162558.jpeg)

Eighty orange trees total.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2020, 07:25:36 PM
The banks look appropriately mucky.

Curt,

The river banks will look much better when I get them finished. Thanks for stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 18, 2020, 09:07:23 AM
Tom can't wait for the finished river it looks great already.


You know what they say an apple a day keeps the Doc away!!
Beautiful orchard!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on December 18, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
The orange trees look quite neat, and also unique for a model railroad.

Looking good.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 19, 2020, 02:33:10 PM
Jerry - Orange trees are planted in "groves," not "orchards." 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: T.C. on December 20, 2020, 09:44:03 AM
Not to criticize as your work is very well done and I really enjoy and look forward to your post and work, so please dont take this the wrong way, and they may very well do things differently up you way.
I know from living in the middle of a grove for many years that down here in the Ft. Pierce area they only clean around under the trees and the rest of the grove is usually overgrown. Until harvest time then they mow it all. The trees are also usually on high ground so it almost looks like ditches in between the rows of trees .
Just and observation not to criticize .
T.C.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on December 20, 2020, 10:17:09 AM
TC — just to add my two cents: I always say that unless you are building a prototype, it's purely a matter of what you prefer. I say this because everything I produce isn't accurate to the era it leans toward. In fact, on close scrutiny, you'll probably find a vast amount of inaccuracies. It's an art and creative license is what leads — sometimes a well kept orange grove is what might fit best!

Just to be clear, this isn't a criticism of your fair comment. Just my thoughts :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 20, 2020, 10:32:04 AM
"T. C." - We kept our groves in more pristine condition here in ORANGE COUNTY.  The groves were well-manicured.  While I do remember seeing a few groves with weeds etc growing between the trees, they were the exception rather than the rule. 

Of course, the winter of 1983 killed most of the citrus in Central Florida and the grove owners figured out it was more profitable to develop the land instead of growing citrus.  Very few orange trees around here today. But a lot more millionaires.   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: T.C. on December 20, 2020, 11:30:23 AM
Like I said not a criticism and I'm not trying to be a rivet counter just saying what I saw and lived, I lived in the middle of an orange grove for over ten years here on the Treasure Coast home of Indian River fruit, probably the best orange and grape fruit in the world.Judge I do realize that different places do things differently so probably neither of us is wrong.
Also what Rusty Robot is saying about being exact I do agree with, I am a firm believer in it's your RR and you only have to make yourself happy .
If it were mine  I would have dirt roads (trails) in the grass between the rows of trees with a small area under the trees cleaned up. I would also shape the terrain so the trees were on high ground.
I know, I know it's not mine !  LOL :o T.C.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 18, 2020, 09:07:23 AM
Tom can't wait for the finished river it looks great already.


You know what they say an apple a day keeps the Doc away!!
Beautiful orchard!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you, much appreciated. I'm getting to the point that I can finally start some scenery by the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 18, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
The orange trees look quite neat, and also unique for a model railroad.

Looking good.

Cheers, Mark.

Cheers Mark,

I had to have some citrus on the Atlantic and Southern. Since this is a Florida layout, it just seemed natural.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 20, 2020, 12:48:27 PM
Hey Tom:

The orchard loom great. Look like another 80 trees. Am I close?

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: T.C. on December 20, 2020, 09:44:03 AM
Not to criticize as your work is very well done and I really enjoy and look forward to your post and work, so please dont take this the wrong way, and they may very well do things differently up you way.
I know from living in the middle of a grove for many years that down here in the Ft. Pierce area they only clean around under the trees and the rest of the grove is usually overgrown. Until harvest time then they mow it all. The trees are also usually on high ground so it almost looks like ditches in between the rows of trees .
Just and observation not to criticize .
T.C.


TC,

Any and all criticism and opinions are most welcome on the A&S thread. I've never been offended by any comments to the thread. As you know we have to use some modelers license in modeling a layout.  Call it selective compression if you will.

When I first planned the orange grove area, I had about half the trees you see now. I didn't look much like a grove at that time,  so, I added more. This prohibited me from adding more ground details.

The Judge mentioned that we have a "clean grove". One could say that but the truth is I just didn't think about making tractor tracks and allowing weeds to grow between the trees.

Having been born and growing up in Central Florida, I've had my share of "citrus lips". One can only get citrus lips from playing in the groves, biting the top off and orange and then sucking out the juice. Of course, you also get the citric acid from the peel on you mouth, thus "citrus lips".  8)

I appreciate you taking the time to post a comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on December 20, 2020, 10:17:09 AM
TC — just to add my two cents: I always say that unless you are building a prototype, it's purely a matter of what you prefer. I say this because everything I produce isn't accurate to the era it leans toward. In fact, on close scrutiny, you'll probably find a vast amount of inaccuracies. It's an art and creative license is what leads — sometimes a well kept orange grove is what might fit best!

Just to be clear, this isn't a criticism of your fair comment. Just my thoughts :)


Craig,

Thank you for your thoughts and comment. I appreciate all whom follow the thread and take the extra time to post to the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 20, 2020, 10:32:04 AM
"T. C." - We kept our groves in more pristine condition here in ORANGE COUNTY.  The groves were well-manicured.  While I do remember seeing a few groves with weeds etc growing between the trees, they were the exception rather than the rule. 

Of course, the winter of 1983 killed most of the citrus in Central Florida and the grove owners figured out it was more profitable to develop the land instead of growing citrus.  Very few orange trees around here today. But a lot more millionaires.


Bill,

My dad and a few friends lost quite a bit of $$ in the freeze of '61. Of course, he was only an investor and didn't own the land. He certainly didn't have the million when he retired.  He once told me "I've made millions and lost millions." And so it goes.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 20, 2020, 12:48:27 PM
Hey Tom:

The orchard loom great. Look like another 80 trees. Am I close?

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, yes, there are 80 trees in the grove. You win!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: T.C. on December 20, 2020, 02:59:37 PM
Having been born and growing up in Central Florida, I've had my share of "citrus lips". One can only get citrus lips from playing in the groves, biting the top off and orange and then sucking out the juice. Of course, you also get the citric acid from the peel on you mouth, thus "citrus lips".  (http://modelersforum.com/Smileys/default/cool.gif)

I appreciate you taking the time to post a comment.

Tom
Thank you for not taking it the wrong way Tom as I meant no disrespect.  I've only been in Fla. sense 1957, I was four years old when my family moved here from Port Huron Mich.
One of my grandfathers retired from the PHD RR, he used to hitch a ride on the ACL to Ft. Pierce every summer for vacation.
Only thing better than citrus lips is bending your spoon digging out the center of a frozen orange. Of course nowadays they say that's poison, dont eat a frozen orange you'll die! LOL
FYI I have watched your post sense the first day I signed up on this forum and truly enjoy your work and your methods.T.C.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 05:36:07 PM
TC,

I'm very happy to have you following along on the build thread and posting, thank you, much appreciated.

If eating frozen or half frozen citrus was bad, I'd be dead 65 years ago. Eating a frozen orange, tangerine or grapefruit right off the tree is a memory I'll cherish forever. And, to add to this, the best kind of grove fight is to splatter your friend with a moldy rotten orange.

I had a great uncle who worked for the IC RR but he never made it to Florida.

Again, happy to have you along for the journey.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
I was able to get a few hours in on the layout today. First, I mixed some Sap Green and Phthalo Blue (Green Shade) acrylic paint and painted it along the river's edge about 5 HO scale feet from the bank. It's just a slightly brighter blue green than the rest of the water.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220173805.jpeg)


I got the river banks covered in the first basic layer of scenery also. Yesterday, I poured some white glue into a shallow pan and let dry overnight. This morning I skimmed off the top layer of glue leaving me a thicker mix of Elmer's White glue. I'd say it has the consistency of a paste rather than a fluid glue.

Yes, I did this for a very good reason. When I paint the white glue on the river bank, I don't want it to run down and onto the plywood river bed.

I put some of the thick white glue in a Dixie Cup and added some WS Fine Earth #T42 in another cup.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220173822.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 05:59:38 PM
In the next photo you can see the white glue is thick and sticks to the side of the river bank and doesn't flow onto the plywood.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220175553.jpeg)

I then take the WS fine turf and spread it over the glue. The snowy patches you see is just the glue coming through.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220173836.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 06:11:19 PM
After about an hour, I lightly sprayed some "wet" water on the turf material. My "wet" water is made using some warm tap water and a few drops of Kodak Professional Photo-Flo 200. It is odorless and the bugs don't like it. Most people use a liquid detergent but I've found when spraying it, I get bubbles.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220180509.jpeg)

After wetting the area with the wet water, I use an eye dropper to add a 50/50 mix of matte medium and regular tap water. The matte medium soaks the WS turf. I add a very light sprinkling of WS grass mix on top of the matte medium.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220173906.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 20, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
I like it, especially that mucky edge we get down here.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 06:22:02 PM
While the matte medium is drying, I sprinkle on some Scenic Express Flock & Turf Grass Turf Blend #880C and Scrub Grass Blend #882C. Along the river's edge, I add a very thin sprinkling of my oak leaf blend.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220173922.jpeg)

The oak leaf blend is made form oak leaves gathered from the yard, placed in a blender with some water and blended until I get a mush of oak leaves. I then squeeze the wet leaves through an old stocking, pilfered from the Babe, to removed most of the water. I'm left with a paste mix of oak leaves. I then spread the blended oak leaves across a pie tin and let it sun dry. If in a hurry, I bake it dry in the oven at 140 degrees until a soft dry mix as seen below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201220174241.jpeg)

It looks a little messy now but in the morning it will be fine. I'll show you the difference then.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 20, 2020, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 20, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
I like it, especially that mucky edge we get down here.


Curt,

Thanks very much. Now I can really get going with the extra details for the river scene.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 20, 2020, 08:28:35 PM
Perfect look!!!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 21, 2020, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 20, 2020, 08:28:35 PM
Perfect look!!!!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you very much. I'm getting closer to the look I want.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 21, 2020, 04:55:01 PM
Well, no update as promised. Everything came up today and no layout time was available. Christmas shopping with Pam pretty much took the day.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2020, 05:51:35 PM
I got a few hours in on the layout today.

I weathered the drainage pipes and installed them.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220174816.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220174844.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2020, 06:01:32 PM
I then added some river bank foliage. I cut three posts, glued them in place and added some cross braces to support the pipes.

I mixed some brown, green and yellow and painted this mix onto the pest chemical discharge. The area of the river where the contamination discharge is dumped into the river was also painted. No EPA on the Atlantic and Southern RR.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220174907.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220174921.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 23, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
Looks like the chemical drainage is also killing one of the cypress trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220174949.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-231220175003.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 23, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
That looks fantastic Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on December 23, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
Tom


The layout looks great - you have been on a roll and it's great to see you back at it. Don't let any EPA inspectors in the building to see what's coming out of those drain pipes. It's all about the details my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 23, 2020, 09:18:05 PM
Hi Tom,
This is looking really good.  All you need now is some dead fish in the chemical spill!

Merry Christmas to you, Pam and Joyce
Bruce O.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: MAP on December 24, 2020, 06:36:54 AM
Hey Tom!  Really great seeing you back on the railroad!  You're doing a fantastic job on the river.  Keep those pics coming.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 24, 2020, 06:47:54 AM
Better go fishing upstream from that nasty looking stuff.  No skinny dipping either.  Wonderful looking scene.   :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on December 24, 2020, 08:08:11 AM
I agree tom, Beautiful job.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 24, 2020, 08:45:37 AM
Think of all the good you're doing for future employment by creating a terrific EPA Super Fund site.....atta boy Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on December 24, 2020, 09:18:12 AM
I guess swimming is out of the question!!


But its looks good nice job Tom.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on December 24, 2020, 11:59:55 AM
No 'gators or 'moccasins in that stretch of the river at least.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 23, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
That looks fantastic Tom.

Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on December 23, 2020, 09:08:55 PM
Tom


The layout looks great - you have been on a roll and it's great to see you back at it. Don't let any EPA inspectors in the building to see what's coming out of those drain pipes. It's all about the details my friend.


John,

Thank you as well, Yes, I've been busy since coming out of the Covid-19 crap. I've lost time and will never find it so I need to stay busy.

We don't allow any EPA nerds on the A&S. They seem to "muck" everything up. LOL!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 23, 2020, 09:18:05 PM
Hi Tom,
This is looking really good.  All you need now is some dead fish in the chemical spill!

Merry Christmas to you, Pam and Joyce
Bruce O.


Bruce,

Thanks for stopping by and posting a comment. I appreciated it. I couldn't find any HO scale fish, probably cause I couldn't see them.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: MAP on December 24, 2020, 06:36:54 AM
Hey Tom!  Really great seeing you back on the railroad!  You're doing a fantastic job on the river.  Keep those pics coming.

Mark,

I just can't tell you how happy I am to be riding the rails again. Never want to go through that again. Thank you for the very generous compliment on the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 24, 2020, 06:47:54 AM
Better go fishing upstream from that nasty looking stuff.  No skinny dipping either.  Wonderful looking scene.   :) :) :)

Bob, 

Thank you for the kind comment. If you did take a dip in this area of the river, your bathing suit would probably be gone in a few minutes along with your hair. Oh, never mind about the hair, we don't need to worry about that.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on December 24, 2020, 08:08:11 AM
I agree tom, Beautiful job.


Thank you Dennis, very much appreciate you stopping by for a look see.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 24, 2020, 08:45:37 AM
Think of all the good you're doing for future employment by creating a terrific EPA Super Fund site.....atta boy Tom.  8)


Greg,

Thank you, yea, people like me in the 50's gave the EPA their start in December 1970.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Jerry on December 24, 2020, 09:18:12 AM
I guess swimming is out of the question!!


But its looks good nice job Tom.


Jerry

Jerry,

Danger, Will Robinson, swim at your own risk!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on December 24, 2020, 11:59:55 AM
No 'gators or 'moccasins in that stretch of the river at least.

Larry,

None when the chemicals are dumped. However, I've seen gators in some pretty nasty stuff here in Florida..

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:19:33 PM
I got a little more work done today on the details for the river.

I stained a 3/16" dowel with Hunterline Medium Brown A&I.  I used some spare Styrene and cut two triangles and two squares. I also printed two Danger-No Swimming signs.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241220153456.jpeg)

I then cut the 3/16" dowel to six pieces of 10 HO scale feet in length.

The signs were glued to the posts using an 5 minutes 2 part epoxy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241220153512.jpeg)

Continued -



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 24, 2020, 04:23:20 PM
The signs  will be channel marker signs for the river.

I painted the two squares with Floquil Southern Green and the two triangle signs with Floquil Signal Red. When the paint is dry and cured, I'll add white numbers to the signs.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241220153526.jpeg)

More on the channel markers later this weekend.

Merry Christmas ya'll.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on December 24, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Hey Tom:

The signs look great. Can't wait to see A picture with them on the layout.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 25, 2020, 05:40:00 PM
Karl,

Thank you, I should have more to update tomorrow or Sunday afternoon.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:40:03 PM
I continue to make slow but steady progress on the river area. I still find myself getting very tired after a few hours, so, I take many breaks.

I finished the pilings and used thread to represent rope. The rope was stained with Hunterline Light Gray A&I.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163011.jpeg)

I added the "Danger - NO Swimming" signs to the chemical pollution site.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163026.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:45:49 PM
I've always wanted to add a very old and rotten dock with nothing left but the pilings and a few boards. The next two photos show my feeble attempt.

All the loose scenery material will be removed prior to the water being added.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163044.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163057.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:50:09 PM
I then added the channel markers.

Green going out to open waters and red indicating a return to port - Red, Right, Return.

The numbers on the markers indicate the number of markers left until you reach the end, IE, open water or return to base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163111.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163124.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:54:39 PM
The next several photos show scenery being added to the river banks.

Kris Cutler made the cypress trees for the Atlantic and Southern. They are made from Scenic Express Super Trees and Mastic. They were then colored to represent the cypress bark.

These trees are a work of art and look fantastic. Better in person than the photos show.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163154.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163214.jpeg)

Continued -



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:56:05 PM

GAS sign added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163228.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:58:08 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163249.jpeg)

Shown with vehicle bridge in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163309.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 29, 2020, 04:58:53 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163338.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-291220163423.jpeg)



Boats and other trash will be added next.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on December 29, 2020, 05:14:09 PM
This is coming along very nice Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on December 29, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
Love this large scale modeling. Job well done so far, Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on December 29, 2020, 06:08:12 PM
That river scene keeps getting better and better..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 29, 2020, 06:14:16 PM
Everything looks top notch Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on December 29, 2020, 08:43:41 PM
Some really nice touches going on there, Tom.  Looks great!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on December 29, 2020, 09:14:53 PM
Wonderful detail, Tom.  I really like the rotted dock.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on December 30, 2020, 07:54:15 AM
Hello Tom, your river scene looks great, love all the details, especially the rotted dock.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on December 30, 2020, 08:20:30 AM
Tom:  Lots in that scene to keep one's eyes busy.  Well done.  Love the dead cypress tree where the pollution is. 

Larry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on December 30, 2020, 10:12:23 AM
Great looking scene and great 'how to' instructions, thanks. I love the Cypress Trees, they are very realistic. Lots of thought going into this and I appreciate the 'how to' ideas. Sprayed wet water has been an issue for me with the bubbles. Now I think the Judge needs to explain how that broken dock came about.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on December 30, 2020, 10:40:32 AM
Tom - The scene is even better than I thought it would be.  Can't wait for the water to be poured. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on December 30, 2020, 11:21:09 AM
That looks great!  I can tell you right now my 65' Work Boat / Lighter won't fit under those bridges so I'll just have to hang on to that one for myself.   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on December 30, 2020, 11:44:08 AM
Tom,
Good to see you working on your layout again after being hit with this virus.
Glad your slowly getting your strength back. Can't wait for more progress photos of this area.
Hope the next reefer train includes a delivery of soda to get those juices flowing again.
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: sdrees on December 29, 2020, 05:14:09 PM
This is coming along very nice Tom

Steve,

Thank you very much. More to do but almost finished with the river area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on December 29, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
Love this large scale modeling. Job well done so far, Tom!


Craig,

I appreciate the kind comment, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 29, 2020, 06:08:12 PM
That river scene keeps getting better and better..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you and thank you.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 29, 2020, 06:14:16 PM
Everything looks top notch Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciate the support on the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 29, 2020, 08:43:41 PM
Some really nice touches going on there, Tom.  Looks great!

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

I appreciate the generous comment. This has been fun to do and also fun to think of little details to do in the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on December 29, 2020, 09:14:53 PM
Wonderful detail, Tom.  I really like the rotted dock.

Jeff


Jeff,

Much appreciate the comment. I think the rotted dock will look more natural when the rater/resin is poured.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on December 30, 2020, 07:54:15 AM
Hello Tom, your river scene looks great, love all the details, especially the rotted dock.   Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you as well. The rotted dock is a detail I was going to add the the lagoon area but forgot. Senior month and all that.  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on December 30, 2020, 08:20:30 AM
Tom:  Lots in that scene to keep one's eyes busy.  Well done.  Love the dead cypress tree where the pollution is. 

Larry


Larry,

Thank you, yes, lots to look at. John Siekirk said it best, "It's all about the details." My desire is for visitors to see something that has always been there when they say. "Oh, it that new?"

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 30, 2020, 10:12:23 AM
Great looking scene and great 'how to' instructions, thanks. I love the Cypress Trees, they are very realistic. Lots of thought going into this and I appreciate the 'how to' ideas. Sprayed wet water has been an issue for me with the bubbles. Now I think the Judge needs to explain how that broken dock came about.

Jim D

Jim,

Thank you for the nice compliment. Kris did a fantastic job on the cypress trees. She is a master at making trees.

The Judge can explain how the dock was abandoned on his thread and add a story to go with it.

I'll cover how to do the water when i get to it. It won't be sprayed.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: Judge on December 30, 2020, 10:40:32 AM
Tom - The scene is even better than I thought it would be.  Can't wait for the water to be poured.


Bill,

Thank you, I have a couple of other things I'm considering for the river; however, I'm not committed to them.

The water will change the entire look of the area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 30, 2020, 11:21:09 AM
That looks great!  I can tell you right now my 65' Work Boat / Lighter won't fit under those bridges so I'll just have to hang on to that one for myself.   ;D ;D ;D


Bob,

Thanks you very much. Not to worry about your boat in my river. I ordered three small boats form Sea Port Models. Two speed boats and one small tug pulling a small barge.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on December 30, 2020, 11:44:08 AM
Tom,
Good to see you working on your layout again after being hit with this virus.
Glad your slowly getting your strength back. Can't wait for more progress photos of this area.
Hope the next reefer train includes a delivery of soda to get those juices flowing again.
Tommy


Tommy,

Thank you, I can assure you I'm very happy to be back. The virus really took a small toll on me. I'm still not 100% but feel 100% better.

I just got a fresh supply of Diet Pepsi for my train building. I'm good for now and well into January 2021.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
I forgot to mention in yesterday's post how I got the rotten dock piers.

I was in the yard a few months ago, prior to C-19, and noticed some old cypress mulch pieces. I thought they would be perfect for the rotten dock.

The dock piers started life as a piece of mulch shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-301220171847.jpeg)

I used a single edged razor blade and cut the mulch horizontally into several different pieces. I then cut them to around four HO scale feet in length.

I soaked then in Hunterline Medium Brown A&I and let them air dry on a paper towel.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-301220171901.jpeg)

Glued in place for the rotted dock piers.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:19:34 PM
Another aspect of the A&S build I enjoy is getting the right structure to look natural in the right location. I strive to get a consistency in how the layout looks to me and visitors.

Once a structure is built, it may sit in one location for several months and then find a final resting spot in an entirely different location.

Here are two such examples.

Frank Baker (Erieman) made me two beautiful citrus structures a few years ago in exchange for some brass work. For almost a year, I had them on the second level just north of the St. John's River area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130658.jpeg)

For some unknown reason, I thought they would look and fit better on the Summit (3rd.) level as shown. I was thinking if they were here I could have a double track for loading citrus.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130536.jpeg)

More on this location in a few more posts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:25:30 PM
Now comes Butts Meat Co. This structure, another Reading Bob build, was placed on the Summit (3rd.) level near the north end.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130418.jpeg)


The problem with this is the fact the cattle loading ramp is on the right. So, only one car could be loaded and then moved.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130436.jpeg)

Continued -



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:32:54 PM
In order to have room to load multiple cars, the meat company needed to be moved two feet+ to the left. This moved the slaughter house closer to the main line passenger station. I can't have "uppity" passengers smelling the cattle pen.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130450.jpeg)


So the most logical location is for Butts Meat Co. to be located where the citrus structures were located on the third level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130505.jpeg)

This area is 7.5 feet in length and will hold Butts Meat Co. with plenty of room for loading cattle. There is also ample room for two other larger FSM structures.

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:34:15 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130522.jpeg)

Cattle car at Butts loading ramp.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:36:19 PM
Now back to the two large citrus processing structures.

This was the original location for the two.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130547.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130601.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Final decision on these two. They will occupy the real estate where they were two years ago.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130614.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020121130626.jpeg)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-0201 %20021130626.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 02, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
Major changes on the A&S. Can't wait to see them in person.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 02, 2021, 04:03:45 PM
Nice shuffling and reshuffling, Tom.

I think where those two structures sit - fairly centrally - you can still get nice longitudinal views across both bridges.  This, I would deem as fairly important.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 02, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
Major changes on the A&S. Can't wait to see them in person.


Curt,

The two citrus structures were here many years ago. I think I moved them by the time you became a SBG.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 02, 2021, 04:03:45 PM
Nice shuffling and reshuffling, Tom.

I think where those two structures sit - fairly centrally - you can still get nice longitudinal views across both bridges.  This, I would deem as fairly important.

Cheers, Mark.

Cheers, Mark,

Thank you. I agree, they look best here and also compliment the area as well. The longitudinal view is extremely important as you noted.

I appreciate the comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 04:32:42 PM
No river scene is complete without some sort of river craft. I ordered some boats form Sea Port Model Works and received them within a week of placing the order. Super fast shipping by APMW.

I ordered a small tug boat with a coal barge and two speed boats with outboard motors. These will be built here, on this thread as opposed to doing a new thread on the forum.

Photo copied from kit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162719.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162733.jpeg)

The river craft will be built and placed on the water. Of course the water/resin will be poured first. I plan to do that the first of next week.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 04:34:01 PM
They will be placed in this general location on the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162747.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162758.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162811.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070121162826.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 07, 2021, 06:00:37 PM
Nice, Tom.

I really like the angle you have the boat and barge on as well.  It kind of makes the eye do a little circle - from the boat to the front sign to the back sign to the barge.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on January 08, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
ACL 1540,
          Wow, you just flung a tugboat and barge cravin' on me with this latest next modeling step you're creating.  Drink Diet Pepsi and hurry up finishing this water scene (I can't wait) :o .  Thanks for the update brother!
                                       Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Raymo on January 08, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
That little tug is a neat piece. I saw Bruce building the patterns for it this past summer and told him the full hull version would make a nice flat car load.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on January 09, 2021, 04:38:19 AM
Tom, I'm looking forward to you building the boats. I have quite a few in my stash. The water scene is looking great.

Mike
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 09:04:52 AM
Tom


I too, will be watching this scene develop.  You are off to a great start.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 07, 2021, 06:00:37 PM
Nice, Tom.

I really like the angle you have the boat and barge on as well.  It kind of makes the eye do a little circle - from the boat to the front sign to the back sign to the barge.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers, Mark,

Thank you. The angle seemed like the best look for the tug and barge in the river. The main channel actually does run at that angle as well. Most importantly, they both are the perfect size for the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:45:30 PM
Quote from: tct855 on January 08, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
ACL 1540,
          Wow, you just flung a tugboat and barge cravin' on me with this latest next modeling step you're creating.  Drink Diet Pepsi and hurry up finishing this water scene (I can't wait) :o .  Thanks for the update brother!
                                       Thanx Thom...

Thommy,

I've been wanting to do some sort of water craft for quite awhile. When I saw this, I thought it was the perfect fit for the river. I have a Diet Pepsi as I type this response.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Raymo on January 08, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
That little tug is a neat piece. I saw Bruce building the patterns for it this past summer and told him the full hull version would make a nice flat car load.


Dan,

This a nice little tug and barge for the river. It also adds many more things to view in the river scene.

Thanks for stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:56:33 PM
Quote from: madharry on January 09, 2021, 04:38:19 AM
Tom, I'm looking forward to you building the boats. I have quite a few in my stash. The water scene is looking great.

Mike


Mike,

Thank you, I have a few also but these two are up first. I'll have a update later this evening. The river area is coming together nicely.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 09:04:52 AM
Tom


I too, will be watching this scene develop.  You are off to a great start.

John,

This scene is developing as planned. Problem is, I keep finding other stuff to do in the river area. I'll need to stop sooner or later. I'd planned on having the water in at his point but just want to make sure it will all look natural.

Thank you for following and for the compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
 I planned on having the water in the river by this time but I keep finding little details that just seem natural being in a river.

I found an old auto frame, bicycle, FSM rotten boat, tire, pallet and the obligatory shopping cart. The river area is small so this is just the right amount of "junk" to be found.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191230.jpeg)

The shopping cart is by Gold Metal Models. I put it together and soaked it in Hunterline Rust for about 10 minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191244.jpeg)

The auto frame and bicycle were painted with Floquil Mud and then dipped in the Rust A&I - set aside to dry.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:43 PM
The tug engine room has a curved wall on each end. The roof is flat. I noticed the resin roof casting was thick on one end and very thin on the other. I'm assuming the mold wasn't level when the resin was drying. Instead of trying to get a new one, I decide to just work with this one.

Since the roof is flat, the instructions call for the modeler to glue one side of the roof on the engine top side wall. When dry force the other side to the other side wall and glue it in place. The roof section is thick on one end and will never stay in place even with super glue being used.

The roof needed to be heated and reshaped to fit the engine walls.

Here is what I did.

I used my Weller soldering iron to heat the roof.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191326.jpeg)

The soldering iron was clamped in the on position. I placed the roof on top of the iron barrels and let it heat a little. No more than a few seconds.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191342.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:08:10 PM
I carefully removed the roof and placed the other side on the iron barrels. Again, no more than a few seconds.

The roof was removed and reshaped to fit the engine room. It was trail and error but I got it to fit as best it will considering the imperfect roof.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191411.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191423.jpeg)

Continued -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on January 13, 2021, 08:08:44 PM
Tom, those little details are wonderful. LOVE IT. And I'm ordering some of those carts!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on January 13, 2021, 08:08:44 PM
Tom, those little details are wonderful. LOVE IT. And I'm ordering some of those carts!


Craig,

These are a great detail to have. No river, lake or ditch is worthy unless a shopping cart is thrown in.  ;D

Thank you for posting and following along on this adventure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:19:54 PM
The engine room walls are a bit warped. This is caused from the resin drying on a thin piece. I've experienced this in making some of my own resin castings.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191439.jpeg)

I cut a couple of HO scale 10 x 10's to hold the walls in square. I didn't use the hot iron to reshape them as they are very thin.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191454.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 09:04:52 AM
Tom


I too, will be watching this scene develop.  You are off to a great start.

John,

This scene is developing as planned. Problem is, I keep finding other stuff to do in the river area. I'll need to stop sooner or later. I'd planned on having the water in at his point but just want to make sure it will all look natural.

Thank you for following and for the compliment.

Tom  ;D


It's all about the details, my friend.  I think you are striking a good balance. Our buddy George Sellios is currently going through his layout and adding more details, now that he considers his layout done.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:22:40 PM
The tires, buckets and life rings are very thin and fragile. Take care when cleaning off the flash.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191508.jpeg)

I managed to do so with dropping any on the floor to never be seen again.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191526.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 13, 2021, 09:04:52 AM
Tom


I too, will be watching this scene develop.  You are off to a great start.

John,

This scene is developing as planned. Problem is, I keep finding other stuff to do in the river area. I'll need to stop sooner or later. I'd planned on having the water in at his point but just want to make sure it will all look natural.

Thank you for following and for the compliment.

Tom  ;D


It's all about the details, my friend.  I think you are striking a good balance. Our buddy George Sellios is currently going through his layout and adding more details, now that he considers his layout done.


John,

Thanks, yes, the details really can make or break a scene. As you say, "It's all about the details."

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:27:56 PM
There were a few small holes left from air bubble in the castings. I went to the local hobby shop for some fresh green squadron putty. Of course, they were out but had the product shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121201203.jpeg)

I never considered the new putty color but got home and found it was white. And, the resin tug is all white. So it was a bit tricksie to fill  the holes and then find them to sand the putty smooth.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:32:05 PM
Not shown here but all the tug parts and barge were washed in warm soapy water to remove any casting mold release.

When dry, I sprayed all the parts with Floquil Primer. When cured, I'll begin the painting process.

On a side note, the kit was missing the tug horn and light mast. I emailed Sea Port Models four days ago and have yet to hear back from them.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191540.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130121191554.jpeg)

Done for now.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 13, 2021, 08:32:23 PM
Awesome detail pieces Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 13, 2021, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 13, 2021, 08:32:23 PM
Awesome detail pieces Tom.

Curt,

Much appreciated, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 14, 2021, 05:05:50 PM
I offer my sincere apology to Bruce Nickerson of Sea Port Model works. I reported that my tug kit was missing the horn and light mast.

I found them this afternoon under the work bench. I called Bruce to tell him I found the missing parts and to not send new ones. To late, he sent them out Monday and of course the parts arrived twenty minutes after I called. I offered to send the extra back and he said to keep them and use them on another model.

Excellent customer service. If you've never spoken to Bruce at any of the Expos you are missing meeting a really nice guy.

Again, thank you Bruce.


https://seaportmodelworks.com/about/
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on January 14, 2021, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 14, 2021, 05:05:50 PM
I offer my sincere apology to Bruce Nickerson of Sea Port Model works. I reported that my tug kit was missing the horn and light mast.

I found them this afternoon under the work bench. I called Bruce to tell him I found the missing parts and to not send new ones. To late, he sent them out Monday and of course the parts arrived twenty minutes after I called. I offered to send the extra back and he said to keep them and use them on another model.

Excellent customer service. If you've never spoken to Bruce at any of the Expos you are missing meeting a really nice guy.

Again, thank you Bruce.


https://seaportmodelworks.com/about/

One thing I love about this hobby are the people that populate it. From manufacturers to modelers — 99.9% are wonderful creatures indeed
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on January 15, 2021, 11:13:51 AM
Tom love those little details for the river.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 15, 2021, 02:00:37 PM
Looking good Tom.....love the details.  8)  Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow.[size=78%] [/size] :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on January 14, 2021, 07:27:17 PM


One thing I love about this hobby are the people that populate it. From manufacturers to modelers — 99.9% are wonderful creatures indeed


Craig,

I agree 100% with you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry on January 15, 2021, 11:13:51 AM
Tom love those little details for the river.


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you. I'll get them in the river one day soon - I hope.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 15, 2021, 02:00:37 PM
Looking good Tom.....love the details.  8)  Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow. :)

Greg,

Thank you.  Last Saturday was a fun day.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 05:18:22 PM
Time to get the location for the church and grave yard ready.

I marked the area where I wanted to remove scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200121171508.jpeg)

The church was removed and the area with and on the black line was sprayed with warm water.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 05:20:03 PM
I let the warm water sit for 30-40 minutes and then using a putty knife began removing the scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200121171521.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200121171535.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2021, 05:22:50 PM
Okay, you get the idea. I'll fast forward here and you can see that area of scenery has been removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200121171548.jpeg)

I used a small piece of pink 1/4" foam to level the ground next to the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200121171605.jpeg)

More tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 22, 2021, 12:15:13 PM
Tom


Great progress and love the details.  The discussion on river clutter and shopping carts got me to do an internet search on shopping carts to see what time frame makes them prototypical correct for the S&S RR.  I thought you guys might be interested in what a learned. 



The Evolution of the Shopping Cart
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 22, 2021, 03:39:11 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks good I'm following along.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:16:46 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 22, 2021, 12:15:13 PM
Tom


Great progress and love the details.  The discussion on river clutter and shopping carts got me to do an internet search on shopping carts to see what time frame makes them prototypical correct for the S&S RR.  I thought you guys might be interested in what a learned. 



The Evolution of the Shopping Cart

       
  • Victoria Tran. Timeline.
  • 1911. Walter H. Deubner brainstormed. ...
  • 1915. Walter H. ...
  • 1936. The first shopping cart was made.
  • 1938. The Folding Basket Carrier is patented.
  • 1940. The shopping cart is featured on The Saturday Evening Post.
  • 1947. The telescoping cart is invented.
  • 1949. The large single basket cart used today is invented.
  • 2021.  LARGE SHOPPPNG CART THROWN IN RIVER.


Just thought I'd add a little to your list.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:17:30 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 22, 2021, 03:39:11 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks good I'm following along.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks very much, happy to have you on the journey.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:25:39 PM
I've been working on the tug and barge the past few days.

Painting and weathering the two has been pretty much standard. I'll let the photos show what I've been doing.

I still need to add a little more rust weathering to the tug, add tire bumpers, coal in the barge and glue all the tug pieces together after adding the final detail parts.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172125.jpeg)

A final coat of brown A&I will be added to the sides of the barge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172139.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:26:26 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172151.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172204.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:27:03 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172216.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172228.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:27:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172238.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172249.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:28:32 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172300.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172311.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230121172324.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Very cool Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 23, 2021, 10:44:44 PM
Looking really good, Tom.

I love the old captain behind the wheel.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on January 24, 2021, 08:39:56 AM
Tom,


I really like how the tug is progressing.  This is going to be a wonderful scene when finished. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on January 24, 2021, 10:23:45 AM
This is coming along great!  You're really making me want to break out my tug an build it.  I should have bought the barge to go with it.   ::)

When the scene is finished make sure you send a few pictures to Bruce at Sea Port Model Works so he can add them to the gallery on his website. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on January 25, 2021, 09:41:07 AM
Tom that is really looking great.  Nice job on the tug & barge!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:09:01 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Very cool Tom.


Curt,

Thank you!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 23, 2021, 10:44:44 PM
Looking really good, Tom.

I love the old captain behind the wheel.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers Mark,

Thank you as well. I found the old sea Capt. in my people stash. Have no idea where I got it or when. It was the only sea merchant in the bunch.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on January 24, 2021, 08:39:56 AM
Tom,


I really like how the tug is progressing.  This is going to be a wonderful scene when finished.


Jerry,

Thank you, much appreciate the comment. I'm getting very close to finishing it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:13:49 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 24, 2021, 10:23:45 AM
This is coming along great!  You're really making me want to break out my tug an build it.  I should have bought the barge to go with it.   ::)

When the scene is finished make sure you send a few pictures to Bruce at Sea Port Model Works so he can add them to the gallery on his website.

Bob,

Thank you and I'm happy you made it back safely.

I have a FOS Barge you are welcome to have. It was a kit of the month.

I will definitely send photos to Bruce.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Jerry on January 25, 2021, 09:41:07 AM
Tom that is really looking great.  Nice job on the tug & barge!!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you for the compliment. I'm very happy with how the scene is turning out.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 02:16:00 PM
I finished the tug and barge this morning. Hopefully I'll have time this afternoon or evening to post the update.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:23:32 PM

The exterior sides of the tug were washed with Hunterline Rust A&I.

The tires for the side of the tug were painted and dry brushed with Floquil Antique White.

I'm not sure of the proper term for my nautical knot I used but it was a variation of a noose or running knot. Anyway, the tires were glued to the side and front using 5 minute epoxy. The rope was pulled over the gunwale and glued to the inside of the tug.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121151911.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121151925.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
The life preserver ring was painted and set aside to dry. I went with three rings instead of four simply due to it being easier to hand paint.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121151939.jpeg)

I dry brushed the wheel house and engine room walls with Floquil Antique White. The tug parts were then all glued in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152008.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:29:42 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152021.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152037.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:30:11 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152048.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:33:30 PM
I was going to stain and then glue HO scale lumber to the sides and rear of the barge so it would look more like a wood sided barge. I didn't want to take the extra time for this as it won't show much of the work once in place.

I did stain the sides with Hunterline Medium Brown.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152115.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152103.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:34:16 PM
I added a coal load to the barge.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152127.jpeg)




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:36:16 PM
At this point the tug and barge are finished. The only thing left is to add the tow rope. This will be done after the tug and barge are in place once the resin water is poured and dry.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152139.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152153.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:36:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152206.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152219.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 07:37:16 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250121152231.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2021, 07:43:53 PM
Everything looks awesome Tom. In real life the barge would also have side lights and a stern light.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on January 25, 2021, 07:52:39 PM
Nice lookin' boat and barge, Tom.  The captain is a great addition.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on January 25, 2021, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2021, 07:43:53 PM
Everything looks awesome Tom. In real life the barge would also have side lights and a stern light.


I bet lights would look good reflected off of the water.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 10:01:03 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2021, 07:43:53 PM
Everything looks awesome Tom. In real life the barge would also have side lights and a stern light.


Curt,

Thank you. I did think about an interior cabin light for the tug but didn't think about the barge. In order to light something "in/on the water" requires much more work than I want to do here.

I did light the water area at Delwin's boat and net storage, it was do-able but very time consuming.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on January 25, 2021, 07:52:39 PM
Nice lookin' boat and barge, Tom.  The captain is a great addition.

Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks very much. The captain was a nice "stash find".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 25, 2021, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 25, 2021, 07:43:53 PM
Everything looks awesome Tom. In real life the barge would also have side lights and a stern light.


I bet lights would look good reflected off of the water.


dave


Dave,

I agree, lights would look fantastic reflecting off the water. However, doing lights on water requires much more time in prepping the area for lights.

Tom  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121101033.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121101109.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on January 26, 2021, 10:33:37 AM
Hello Tom, I really like the tug and barge. Your river scene is coming along very nicely, I can't wait to see the finished product.  It makes me wish I had a space for some small boat on my layout. I will have to look at the Seaport website to see if they have something I can use.    Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on January 26, 2021, 12:37:32 PM
Great scene with the tug and barge...and those water level shots are really nice. Your modeling really holds up to closeup photography...mine's great from a satellite  ;D


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on January 26, 2021, 12:44:03 PM
Great job on the river scene Tom

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 26, 2021, 03:12:37 PM
Hey Tom:

that is one beautiful looking harbor. Thanks for sharing.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on January 26, 2021, 03:39:23 PM
Those photos show great reflected lights.  But yeah, doing lights on the tug would be a lot of work...


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on January 26, 2021, 10:33:37 AM
Hello Tom, I really like the tug and barge. Your river scene is coming along very nicely, I can't wait to see the finished product.  It makes me wish I had a space for some small boat on my layout. I will have to look at the Seaport website to see if they have something I can use.    Jeff

Hey Jeff,

Thank you for the nice compliment on the tug and barge. I'm hoping to have the river scene finished in the coming weeks. Bruce at Sea Port Model Works has many different one to choose from.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: cuse on January 26, 2021, 12:37:32 PM
Great scene with the tug and barge...and those water level shots are really nice. Your modeling really holds up to closeup photography...mine's great from a satellite  ;D


John


John,

Good to see you and thank you for the kind words of support. I've seen your layout so don't sell yourself short. Your layout photos look wonderful.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on January 26, 2021, 12:44:03 PM
Great job on the river scene Tom

Doug

Doug,

Thank you very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 26, 2021, 03:12:37 PM
Hey Tom:

that is one beautiful looking harbor. Thanks for sharing.

Karl

Karl,

Much appreciate the compliment, thank you. Not to worry, I'll keep the photos coming.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on January 26, 2021, 05:13:59 PM
Boy that last picture of the harbor at water level looks so real. You'd have thought you were in a boat. If weren't for those brackets from the shelve above you'd have thought it was real.

BTW, like that little tug and barge. Some nice modeling there.

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 26, 2021, 03:39:23 PM
Those photos show great reflected lights.  But yeah, doing lights on the tug would be a lot of work...


Dave


Dave,

This scene was taken after the Magic Water was added and dried after several days. The Mod Podge was added to make the ways. The Magic Water dries to a mirror like high gloss finish.

Below are three photos of this area. #1 is painted plywood. #2 is dried Magic Water. #3 is Mod Podge added to the top of the Magic Water.

Tom  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121172152.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121172020.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121101033.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on January 26, 2021, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: Bernd on January 26, 2021, 05:13:59 PM
Boy that last picture of the harbor at water level looks so real. You'd have thought you were in a boat. If weren't for those brackets from the shelve above you'd have thought it was real.

BTW, like that little tug and barge. Some nice modeling there.

Bernd


Bernd,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment.

I wanted to get a  water level photo. By raising the camera, I lost most of the reflection. When cropping out the brackets, I lost part of the structure. Oh well.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on January 26, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
The water looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on January 26, 2021, 11:09:46 PM
Tom


It looks great. It sure is nice when the scenes start coming together. Fantastic work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on January 27, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Most excellent tug & barge.....look forward to seeing them Saturday.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on January 27, 2021, 09:46:49 AM
Fun watching, wonderful scene.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on January 27, 2021, 12:14:06 PM
Hey Tom:

I love that dock. I will assume its scratch built.???


Larl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: sdrees on January 26, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
The water looks great Tom.

Steve,

Thank you, appreciate you letting me know.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 26, 2021, 11:09:46 PM
Tom


It looks great. It sure is nice when the scenes start coming together. Fantastic work.


John,

Thank you also. This has been the best and most fun of any layout I've done in the past. This plan seems to be coming together nicely.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 27, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Most excellent tug & barge.....look forward to seeing them Saturday.  8)

Thanks Greg, we did have fun Saturday. You were very good and only ran, your loco, at Greg Speed for just a little while.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on January 27, 2021, 09:46:49 AM
Fun watching, wonderful scene.

Jim D


Jim,

Thank you my friend. Regards to the Boss.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 27, 2021, 12:14:06 PM
Hey Tom:

I love that dock. I will assume its scratch built. ???


Larl


Karl,


Thank you, much appreciated. I wish I could take credit for a scratch build like this. However, this one was build per Dario's Delwin's Net and Boat Storage kit.


Tom  ;D  
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:11:47 PM
Today I got some grave yard work done.

I positioned the grave yard, removed it and painted a very thin layer of white glue to the plywood. The grave yard fencing was replaced and then I let the glue set.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180056.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180109.jpeg)

Continued -



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:15:41 PM
After the glue set but still tacky, I placed the tomb stones in the yard. I then sprinkled on, thinly, some Woodland Scenics grass.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180126.jpeg)

I painted white glue on the outside of the fencing as shown and added more ground scenery material.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180139.jpeg)

More in a few.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:21:13 PM
In the photos the tomb stones look very uniform. The camera didn't pick up the dry brush weathering. Tomorrow, I'll add a variation of color to  make them look more natural.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180159.jpeg)

A few flowers have been placed on the more recent burials.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020221180212.jpeg)

Done for now.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 02, 2021, 06:45:24 PM
Great detailing Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 02, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
Looks awesome Tom!  :D 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:34:58 AM
Tom,
Nice work...hope my name does not show up on your details...
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 27, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Most excellent tug & barge.....look forward to seeing them Saturday.  8)

Thanks Greg, we did have fun Saturday. You were very good and only ran, your loco, at Greg Speed for just a little while.

Tom  ;D


A fun Saturday was had by all.....I am really attempting to behave with the throttle, but sometimes the spirit takes over and I just can't help myself.  :-[ 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on February 03, 2021, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:34:58 AM
Tom,
Nice work...hope my name does not show up on your details...
Tommy

Haha!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 03, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
Hey  Tom:

the graveyard looks just great.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:08:09 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 02, 2021, 06:45:24 PM
Great detailing Tom.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 02, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
Looks awesome Tom!  :D


Thank you Butty Bob, much appreciate the comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:34:58 AM
Tom,
Nice work...hope my name does not show up on your details...
Tommy


Tommy,

Thank you and no forum names are on the slabs.  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:11:05 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 02, 2021, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 27, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Most excellent tug & barge.....look forward to seeing them Saturday.  8)

Thanks Greg, we did have fun Saturday. You were very good and only ran, your loco, at Greg Speed for just a little while.

Tom  ;D


A fun Saturday was had by all.....I am really attempting to behave with the throttle, but sometimes the spirit takes over and I just can't help myself.  :-[

We did have fun for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on February 03, 2021, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:34:58 AM
Tom,
Nice work...hope my name does not show up on your details...
Tommy

Haha!!


I just checked and no forum member's name is on the "soon to be departed/planted" list for this grave yard.  ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 03, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
Hey  Tom:

the graveyard looks just great.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks very much. I'm almost getting to the finish line.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:23:46 PM
Today, I worked more on the grave yard and surrounding area. I added more weathering to the tomb stones using Floquil Aged Concrete. When dry, I weathered some stones with AK Interactive Slimy Grime Light.

I planted three of Kris Cutler's super trees to the area. I planted a large oak tree and positioned it so the branches hung over the fence and created a very shady area. Hence the slime on the stones.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030221180501.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030221180610.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
I have a dead tree and a large tree limb broken off and hanging over the fence.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030221180517.jpeg)

A birds eye view of the church and grave yard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030221180623.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 03, 2021, 06:30:30 PM
I also ballasted the two added tracks in front of the church. The ballast is Arizona Rock ballast for CSX. I sprayed the ballast with wet water and aded a generous application of Matte Medium. It should be dry by tomorrow morning.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030221180637.jpeg)

Finished for now. Just need all the scenery to dry so I can add more.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 03, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
Very nice scene Tom. I like the asymmetry of the graveyard.. Reminds me of a older graveyard.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 04, 2021, 06:58:01 AM
The slimy green is a perfect touch!   :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on February 04, 2021, 08:55:20 AM
Like the "touch" of the fallen head stone.  Growing up next to a cemetery, saw my share of them on the older stones as I looked out my bedroom window.

Thought:  consider placing name of departed forum members on stones as a memorial to them.

LARRY
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 04, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Hey Tom:

Looking just beautiful. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on February 04, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/71a18f80958f0194cd494d215a57c0b8/tumblr_mnzpuvytTE1r3p9nio1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on February 04, 2021, 04:16:51 PM
The toppled tree, slime and toppled stone make it perfect.  Wonderful work on the graveyard.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 03, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
Very nice scene Tom. I like the asymmetry of the graveyard.. Reminds me of a older graveyard.

Curt,

Thanks very much. The scene is slowly coming together as planned. I've noticed here around town the older cemeteries have fences. Hmmm, to keep the deceased in of the living out?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:44:36 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 04, 2021, 06:58:01 AM
The slimy green is a perfect touch!   :D :D :D

Bob,

Thanks, it adds a little interest to the scene.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on February 04, 2021, 08:55:20 AM
Like the "touch" of the fallen head stone.  Growing up next to a cemetery, saw my share of them on the older stones as I looked out my bedroom window.

Thought:  consider placing name of departed forum members on stones as a memorial to them.

LARRY


Larry,

Thank you, much appreciated. Yes, lost forum members on the stones would be nice. Now, how to get the names that small. Doug has some names laser cut into many but they require an Opti-Visor to read them.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 04, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Hey Tom:

Looking just beautiful. Can't wait to see more.

Karl


Karl,


Always appreciate your support, thank you.


Tom  ;D  
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on February 04, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/71a18f80958f0194cd494d215a57c0b8/tumblr_mnzpuvytTE1r3p9nio1_500.gif)

Jan,

Perfect, just great. I love it. At least he kept his head. Thanks!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:51:18 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 04, 2021, 04:16:51 PM
The toppled tree, slime and toppled stone make it perfect.  Wonderful work on the graveyard.

Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment. This is a fun little diorama in the scene. Worked on the road today.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 04:56:38 PM
Today I painted white glue (not shown) on the pink foam and then added some Scenic Express Fine Dirt to the glue. I let this dry.

It appears dry in the photo but the glue underneath is still wet.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135528.jpeg)

When the dirt was dry, I used a soft bristle 1" brush to remove the excess dirt. It will be added later.

I added some dead ground cover around the base of the church. We all know grass doesn't grow under structures.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135541.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 05:00:38 PM
In the photo below, you can see the dirt turning darker color. This simply means the dirt is settling into the glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135643.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135657.jpeg)

The dirt road appears wide here as this is a close up photo. When the road is finished, I'll narrow it by bringing in the ground cover on each side.

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 05:09:37 PM
After several hours of letting the road dry, I sprayed it with wet water and then added matte medium. I let the matte medium set a few minutes and then added the second layer of dirt.

However, this time I applied it using a small screened sieve to apply the dirt.

I added some fine dirt to the sieve and held it over an old pie tin. You can see simply by adding the dirt some came through the sieve. You don't want to do this over already completed scenery - so the sieve was used.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135728.jpeg)

I held the sieve over the road and tapped the side to sift the dirt onto the matte medium. This method gives you a smoother road than by using a brush.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135744.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 04, 2021, 05:20:56 PM
I made a wood track crossing out of some scrap strip wood. It was stained with medium brown A&I from Hunterline.

I got dirt and matte medium on the crossing. I used a clean Q-tip dipped in clean water to remove the dirt and matte medium. Notice also the road is starting to dry.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135757.jpeg)

Dirt on the wood crossing is natural as the vehicles would spread the dirt when in use.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040221135822.jpeg)

I used a plexi-glass car from Jim Miller to make sure I got all the dirt and glue out. It rolled very smoothly through the crossing.

This method of building a dirt road is a slow process. I've learned it over many years of adding crappy looking dirt roads to previous layouts. It will take a few days to get it looking like a dirt road.

Done for today.







Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 04, 2021, 05:44:46 PM
Scenery looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 07, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
Looking great, Tom. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 08, 2021, 07:39:14 AM
The whole scene really looks good Tom...

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on February 08, 2021, 08:40:37 AM
I'd say you got down and dirty yesterday.

Someone with a couple years on their hands and some computer usage skills could sift through your A&S posts over the years and extract your scenery how-to's for presentations at future Fine Scale shows (if they happen).  Otherwise, an e-book, maybe have Joe Fugate market it.

Larry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 08, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
Your dirt road is taking shape very nicely, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 08, 2021, 02:30:09 PM
Hey Tom:

All looks just great so far. Can't wait to see it with the church installed.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 06:51:16 PM
Curt,

Thank you kind sir.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 06:52:04 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 07, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
Looking great, Tom.

John,

Thank you my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on February 08, 2021, 07:39:14 AM
The whole scene really looks good Tom...

Doug

Doug,

Thank you, much appreciate the support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on February 08, 2021, 08:40:37 AM
I'd say you got down and dirty yesterday.

Someone with a couple years on their hands and some computer usage skills could sift through your A&S posts over the years and extract your scenery how-to's for presentations at future Fine Scale shows (if they happen).  Otherwise, an e-book, maybe have Joe Fugate market it.

Larry


Larry,

Yes, I did get a little dirty on this one.

I did think about doing a "How to do Scenery" but as you said it would take a lot of time to go through the three parts and put it together.

I've had several request to redo my brass basket case thread on this forum. I guess I'd do it if there is enough interest. In fact, I was gong to do the brass rebuild for Fugate but never took the time.

I hope we have more FSM shows but it doesn't look very promising.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 08, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
Your dirt road is taking shape very nicely, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you, this has really been a fun little side track on the layout work.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 08, 2021, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 08, 2021, 02:30:09 PM
Hey Tom:

All looks just great so far. Can't wait to see it with the church installed.

Karl

Karl,

Thank you, much appreciated as always. Stay tuned for more tomorrow afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:24:12 PM
I have so many photos of the Atlantic and Southern RR thread, 5,335 pictures, that I needed to open a second file just for the photos.

I moved photos #5001 to date into a New Layout Build 2 file. This has made it easier to access the current photos.

The FOS Riverbend Church, now the Tahope Southern Baptist Church in complete.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175049.jpeg)

It was a fun build and even more fun kit bashing it to fit my idea of a southern style country church.

The old dirt road is now dry and the crossings show a lot of dirt from use.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175101.jpeg)

The track and road still need a little weathering.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:26:38 PM
I planted some junk shrubs and vines where two oak trees were previously located. I didn't want to obscure the view of the stained glass windows.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175116.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 09, 2021, 06:31:18 PM
Hey Tom:

Now that is just so cool.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:31:40 PM
The stained glass windows are lit for the evening service.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175129.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175142.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 09, 2021, 06:31:18 PM
Hey Tom:

Now that is just so cool.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you very much my friend, appreciate the comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:38:16 PM
i also added a memory bench. Here I am with the Babe, remembering our dear friend Jim Miller, jimmillho, on the forum.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175158.jpeg)

The small red tree in the foreground and the two others are trees professionally and custom built for the Atlantic and Southern RR by Kris Cutler.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221180026.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:42:32 PM
When adding new scenery or shrubs to the layout, I always have some seepage of matte medium onto the dirt road.

These are the dark spots on the road in the photos below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175231.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175212.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:46:32 PM
In a previous post, about three years ago, I showed how to get rid of the dark spots.  Here is how to do it.

Take some of the same dirt you used for the road and pour it in a small cup or container of your choice.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175245.jpeg)

Take a soft bristle brush, about an inch wide, and dip the brush into the dirt. Then paint the dirt onto the dark spots.

Here is how it will look after painting the dirt on.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175259.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:49:29 PM
I narrowed the dirt road by adding more scenery material to each side of the road.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175312.jpeg)

Loco cab view of the church and graveyard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175324.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:50:33 PM
One extra photo -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221180039.jpeg)

Done for tonight.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 09, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
Beautiful scene Tom. I love the lighted church and the bench of rememberence for Jim. You look younger on the bench :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 09, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
That's really terrific Tom!  I really hope I can see it in person one of these days.  Stupid pandemic.   >:(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on February 09, 2021, 08:04:13 PM
ACL 1504,
                  Wow!  Nice job on the scene...  https://youtu.be/3Ds0DRCNXN4?t=128
                                                                                                                              Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on February 10, 2021, 12:09:53 AM
Hello Tom. a really nice job on the church/ cemetery scene. You do such a nice job adding little details to tell a story.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on February 10, 2021, 08:34:19 AM
Great scene Tom . We really miss Jimmi on the N-scale forum .
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 10, 2021, 08:36:27 AM
Beautiful job Tom.....well done.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
Lovely scene and nice tribute to a great modeller. Well done.
Mike :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 10, 2021, 01:11:57 PM
Really nice, Tom.

The scene has a very natural flow and rhythm.

Cheers, mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on February 10, 2021, 01:27:16 PM
Hey Tom, another great scene on your layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on February 10, 2021, 07:26:00 PM
Wonderful scene, Tom. Enjoyed the church build.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on February 10, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
Another gem, Tom.  And I'd like a redo on your brass painting techniques.  Not that I have a couple of waycars (cabooses) and locos which need painting or anything.   ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 11, 2021, 01:14:41 AM
Hey Tom:

You never cease to amaze me. That scene is just beautiful. Great job as usual. The scenery around it looks just beautiful..

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 09, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
Beautiful scene Tom. I love the lighted church and the bench of rememberence for Jim. You look younger on the bench :)


Curt,

Thank you for stopping by. Yes, the church lights look good. As for me on the bench, I couldn't find an old bald guy.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 09, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
That's really terrific Tom!  I really hope I can see it in person one of these days.  Stupid pandemic.   >:(

Bob,

Thanks very much, yes, one of these days. Or, maybe one of these years. Crazy stuff going on out there.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 09, 2021, 08:04:13 PM
ACL 1504,
                  Wow!  Nice job on the scene...  https://youtu.be/3Ds0DRCNXN4?t=128 (https://youtu.be/3Ds0DRCNXN4?t=128)
                                                                                                                              Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Wow, thank you KPI!

T  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on February 10, 2021, 12:09:53 AM
Hello Tom. a really nice job on the church/ cemetery scene. You do such a nice job adding little details to tell a story.   Jeff


Jeff,

I appreciate the kind words and compliment, thank you. It was a fun build, both the church and scene.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on February 10, 2021, 08:34:19 AM
Great scene Tom . We really miss Jimmi on the N-scale forum .


Jan,

Thank you. Jim was really a great friend of 50+ years and I still miss him. Hard to believe it's been almost a year since we lost him.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 10, 2021, 08:36:27 AM
Beautiful job Tom.....well done.  8)


Greg,

Thanks, much appreciate the support.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: madharry on February 10, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
Lovely scene and nice tribute to a great modeller. Well done.
Mike :)

Mike,

Thank you as well. Jim loved modeling and talking about modeling.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 10, 2021, 01:11:57 PM
Really nice, Tom.

The scene has a very natural flow and rhythm.

Cheers, mark.

Mark, Cheers,

Thank you. I'm very pleased with how the church and scene turned out.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: sdrees on February 10, 2021, 01:27:16 PM
Hey Tom, another great scene on your layout.


Steve,

Appreciate the comment, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 02:59:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on February 10, 2021, 07:26:00 PM
Wonderful scene, Tom. Enjoyed the church build.


Craig,

Thank you. The church build was fun and even more fun kit bashing the original kit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 10, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
Another gem, Tom.  And I'd like a redo on your brass painting techniques.  Not that I have a couple of waycars (cabooses) and locos which need painting or anything.   ;D


Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you Doc. Painting brass is easy, once you get started. The brass redo was a broken brass model I got off Ebay for a few $$$.

I'll do the repair again on this forum which will include painting.  Hard to believe the repair was done on the old forum some 16 years ago.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 11, 2021, 01:14:41 AM
Hey Tom:

You never cease to amaze me. That scene is just beautiful. Great job as usual. The scenery around it looks just beautiful..

Karl


Karl,

Thank you for the kind and very generous compliment. It was fun putting it all together.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PennsyJ1 on February 14, 2021, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 06:26:38 PM
I planted some junk shrubs and vines where two oak trees were previously located. I didn't want to obscure the view of the stained glass windows.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090221175116.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Kris and I love the whole scene of the church area. Great job as all ways with everything!! Did you pick out a plot or just a spot under the layout?
Bill
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on February 14, 2021, 07:53:20 AM


Kris and I love the whole scene of the church area. Great job as all ways with everything!! Did you pick out a plot or just a spot under the layout?
Bill



Bill and Kris,

Actually Pam picked the spot for the church. I showed her the church kit and she wanted me to get it. I told her I didn't have a place on the layout for it and I didn't like the look of the steeple or foundation.

She said, I like the church, get it and change what you don't like. And, this is where it will look best. I did all those things and it turned out to be just the place for it to fit. Behind every negative man is a positive woman.  :P

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 14, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Tom a perfect fit.  Sometimes they know better than we do!
Great scene.



Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 05:31:57 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 14, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Tom a perfect fit.  Sometimes they know better than we do!
Great scene.



Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you. Pam has been a big help in checking the placement of many of my structures.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 05:38:19 PM
The Judge and I were going to shot a video of the AB ACL F2s but he decided to not come back until after his surgery and recovery.

He asked me to do one and send him the link. I did this one this afternoon.

It is hard to be the director, cameraman, grip, engineer and finally producer. Not my best but still watchable - any train on the A&S RR is watchable.

https://youtu.be/CQTWnJ9SrYQ (https://youtu.be/CQTWnJ9SrYQ)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on February 14, 2021, 07:18:19 PM
Sure looked good to me!  Great angle for the shot to maximize the church and minimize the ovalix in the background.  Nice horn on the F2 by the way.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 14, 2021, 09:44:35 PM
Tom


The video looks great! You should get extra pay for doing all those jobs at once.


The church looks very nice in that spot. Pam does know best.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on February 16, 2021, 11:54:22 PM
Really well done Tom. Just a great scene. Thanks for sharing.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on February 17, 2021, 09:41:27 AM
Nice video. Horn sounds very realistic.

I'm impressed, 31 cars, wow, but who's counting?

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on February 17, 2021, 10:00:00 AM
ACL 1504,
              Yes I agree with Bernd as well.  Very cool video of a nice train running through the new scene!  This should make the Judge feel all better watching this.  Can't wait to see the next video from the dynamic duo.  :D
                                                           Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 17, 2021, 10:59:50 AM
Looks really great, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on February 17, 2021, 05:33:38 PM
As always Tom first rate job - thanks for sharing.

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 17, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
Hey Tom:

Right on. Much better with the shrubs.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 14, 2021, 07:18:19 PM
Sure looked good to me!  Great angle for the shot to maximize the church and minimize the ovalix in the background.  Nice horn on the F2 by the way.


Thank you Jerry,

It was a fun video. I tried to avoid the Ovalix all together but the angle was difficult. Don't remember if the ACL horn is Nathan 3, 5 or Wabco E2.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 14, 2021, 09:44:35 PM
Tom


The video looks great! You should get extra pay for doing all those jobs at once.


The church looks very nice in that spot. Pam does know best.


John,

Much appreciate the compliment on the video. Not to worry, I've rewarded myself quite handsomely.  8)

Pam did a great job on picking that spot for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on February 16, 2021, 11:54:22 PM
Really well done Tom. Just a great scene. Thanks for sharing.

Jim D

Jim,

You are very welcome and thank you. The church and graveyard scene turned out better than I thought it would.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Bernd on February 17, 2021, 09:41:27 AM
Nice video. Horn sounds very realistic.

I'm impressed, 31 cars, wow, but who's counting?

Bernd

Bernd,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment. We normally run trains of 20 or less but I wanted a longer train for this video.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: tct855 on February 17, 2021, 10:00:00 AM
ACL 1504,
              Yes I agree with Bernd as well.  Very cool video of a nice train running through the new scene!  This should make the Judge feel all better watching this.  Can't wait to see the next video from the dynamic duo.  :D
                                                           Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thanks very much. We decided to wait for the Judge to return prior to another train video.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 17, 2021, 10:59:50 AM
Looks really great, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:57:33 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on February 17, 2021, 05:33:38 PM
As always Tom first rate job - thanks for sharing.

Doug


Doug,

Thank you for stopping by and for the kind words. That scene and video was fun to do.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 17, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
Hey Tom:

Right on. Much better with the shrubs.

Karl


Karl,

Yes, thank you. The shurbs changed the entire look of the scene.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
I noticed the track workers were back removing the abandoned trackage. Well, at least they are supposed to be working. You can always tell an A&S RR employee, they usually just stand around.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221163741.jpeg)

Back in a few. Forgot to get the Diet Pepsi.  :P
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:08:49 PM
Here's another group of people standing around. They are waiting for the removal of the casket of their loved one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221163758.jpeg)

It was discovered the casket didn't make the trip. The lady is crying on her husband's shoulder. Seems like one of the Judge's friends forgot to load the dearly departed in the hearse. Can't wait for that story.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221163823.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:11:37 PM
Danny Raymond was in town and volunteered to take the casket to the church.

Notice he cut the corner on the dirt road to save time. I hope officer Poovey isn't in the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164429.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
In other Atlantic and Southern news, some work has started on the Summit level.

This area is and has been used for scenery storage.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164443.jpeg)

It all needs to be removed and look like this.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164456.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:16:29 PM
This 2X8 foot section has to be removed I can cut a hole in a portion of one side.

More on this adventure later next week.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164509.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Keep It Rusty on February 20, 2021, 07:22:36 PM
Tom, that funeral scene is wonderfully tragic. Great job on the staging. Those Preisers are perfect!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on February 20, 2021, 08:28:16 PM
Hey tom, Great looking scenes.  Love the stories the LP tell.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 20, 2021, 09:17:10 PM
The funeral scene is too much.....love it.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on February 21, 2021, 07:21:06 AM
I'm glad to see my layout isn't the only one used for "temporary storage".   :)  The figures and vehicles really added to the church/graveyard scene.  Looks great.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Raymo on February 21, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:11:37 PM
Danny Raymond was in town and volunteered to take the casket to the church.

Notice he cut the corner on the dirt road to save time. I hope officer Poovey isn't in the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164429.jpeg)
My Father always talked about people being late for their own funeral, I guess I was trying not to make that happen.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 21, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Great mini scene, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 21, 2021, 01:55:44 PM
Hey Tom:

Gets better with every photo. Love the pickup truck with the coffin.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 22, 2021, 07:41:14 AM
This scene just keeps getting better and better.  Nice to see Danny has been included in the story.  He needs a business named after him on the A&S.  Just sayin'.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on February 23, 2021, 08:36:39 AM
Love the coffin scene.  Lets hope the truck doesn't get hit by a passing train!!  :)


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: Rusty Robot on February 20, 2021, 07:22:36 PM
Tom, that funeral scene is wonderfully tragic. Great job on the staging. Those Preisers are perfect!

Craig,

Thanks very much. I found the hearse and Preirser figures on Ebay. A bit pricey but were a perfect fit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:17:31 PM
Quote from: sdrees on February 20, 2021, 08:28:16 PM
Hey tom, Great looking scenes.  Love the stories the LP tell.


Steve,

Thank you. The A&S RR little people have all kinds of stories yet to be told.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 20, 2021, 09:17:10 PM
The funeral scene is too much.....love it.  8) 8) 8)


Greg,

Much appreciated. Notice they all have white hair?  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 21, 2021, 07:21:06 AM
I'm glad to see my layout isn't the only one used for "temporary storage".   :)  The figures and vehicles really added to the church/graveyard scene.  Looks great.

Jeff


Jeff,

Yea, "there ought to be a law" about doing it. I have not learned to put my toys away when finished. Instead, I find the nearest spot and plant them.

The grave yard scene is a fun mini scene. A story yet to be told for sure.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:32:46 PM
Quote from: Raymo on February 21, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 20, 2021, 05:11:37 PM
Danny Raymond was in town and volunteered to take the casket to the church.

Notice he cut the corner on the dirt road to save time. I hope officer Poovey isn't in the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200221164429.jpeg)
My Father always talked about people being late for their own funeral, I guess I was trying not to make that happen.

Dan,

My dad was late to his. The funeral home had a new driver and he was new to Orlando. He took a wrong turn and we all went straight.  We got to the grave site before he did. The truck is one you built for the Pennsy but was gifted to me when that layout was removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkdJyc9XDs

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 21, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Great mini scene, Tom.

Cheers, Mark.

Cheers, Mark,

Thank you it was fun setting it in place.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 21, 2021, 01:55:44 PM
Hey Tom:

Gets better with every photo. Love the pickup truck with the coffin.

Karl

Karl,

Thank you buddy, more photos are on the way

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 22, 2021, 07:41:14 AM
This scene just keeps getting better and better.  Nice to see Danny has been included in the story.  He needs a business named after him on the A&S.  Just sayin'.   ;)


Bob,

Thanks very much. I have so many of Dan's vehicles on the layout it was only fitting to have him use his truck. Great idea for a Raymo business.  :P

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jerry on February 23, 2021, 08:36:39 AM
Love the coffin scene.  Lets hope the truck doesn't get hit by a passing train!!  :)


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you, the coffin scene was an after thought. I have plans for another coffin, with a mishap, later in the build thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
Over the past few days, I got the 2X8 ft. section of plywood out of the layout building and onto the saw horses.

One scene planned for the Summit level is a massive diesel servicing facility. More on this with photos later in this posting. I've chosen to use the  Diamond Scale Const. diesel facility and the plywood needs to be cut for the base.

A little fast forward here and the area was measured thrice and cut once.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142414.jpeg)

It fit the first try. It wasn't a snug fit so I needed to clamp the 4' long level under the base so I could screw it in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142428.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:53:05 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142446.jpeg)

I wanted to secure the diesel facility with pits from the top. I drilled three small pilot holes in the plywood and into the base of the facility. I then used a larger drill bit to open the hole to counter sink the screws.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230221174927.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 05:56:52 PM
Once the six screws were in place, the level was unclamped.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142500.jpeg)

I then used rattle can Krylon Matte River Rock to seal the plaster.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142515.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 06:05:12 PM
I forgot to mention I shimmed the base under the platform and against the underside of the plywood. I did this so when the cork and ME code 83 track was added, the track would be level with the plaster cast of the facility.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142529.jpeg)

You can see now the reason the screws were counter sunk. I wanted the cork to be absolutely flat on the plywood so the track to the diesel facility would fit flush with the base. This all means a smooth track/running later.

The section of plywood was then carried back into the building and screwed back in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142542.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 06:09:52 PM
Now, if I'm lucky and pay attention to the instructions and add a few of my own details, my diesel facility will look as wonderful as the one James Mull did.

His build is shown below. These photos were taken from the Diamond Scale site with permission.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142557.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142611.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 23, 2021, 06:11:31 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142659.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220221142717.jpeg)

James' layout below.

https://jamcreations.net/gli-layout-photo-gallery-1
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on February 24, 2021, 07:25:08 AM
Wow!  That's quite a complex.  It's a good thing it's going to be featured on the Summit level.  That will significantly reduce the chances of somebody accidentally damaging it while trying to reach over it.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on February 24, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
Good looking diesel facility.....you've been busy Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 24, 2021, 11:26:55 AM
Looks like an interesting complex.  Should be a fun build.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Lynnb on February 24, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
Tom each time I return to admire your work I am simply amazed, not just at the fine work but the amount of work you get completed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 24, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Looks great, I will be following along on your build.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on February 24, 2021, 12:05:17 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 24, 2021, 12:04:48 PM


Tom


It looks great, I will be following along on your build.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on February 24, 2021, 02:59:47 PM
Tom,


FWIW, and you're probably already way ahead of me... ;D    Modeling your time frame, I would expect those bright yellow handrails to be gray or a similar drab color.  Ditto waste barrels, etc.  Flammable rag safety cans would likely be red, and most safety notices from that time period I have seen were either white on green or the reverse.  Step edges and stair treads would likely be gray also.  I started working in a large facility in 1969 and they were just starting to go with (safety) yellow handrails (top rail only) and step edges then. 



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on February 24, 2021, 04:40:29 PM
Hey Tom:

beautiful job on the diesel facility.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 24, 2021, 07:25:08 AM
Wow!  That's quite a complex.  It's a good thing it's going to be featured on the Summit level.  That will significantly reduce the chances of somebody accidentally damaging it while trying to reach over it.   ;)


Bob,

Yes, once built I'd hate to have to make any repairs. This probably won't get started until later this year, like December 30, 2021 or even later.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:34:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 24, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
Good looking diesel facility.....you've been busy Tom.  8)

Greg,

Thank you and yes, I have.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 24, 2021, 11:26:55 AM
Looks like an interesting complex.  Should be a fun build.

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, Cheers,

I think it will be very much a fun build. I'm looking forward to it even though it will be quite some time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on February 24, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
Tom each time I return to admire your work I am simply amazed, not just at the fine work but the amount of work you get completed.


Lynn,

Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout and thread. My work seems to come in bunches like bananas.  I've been slowed as late selling a late friends estate on Ebay for his wife.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 24, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Looks great, I will be following along on your build.


John,

Thank you my friend. I hope to get to the build within the next twelve months.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 24, 2021, 02:59:47 PM
Tom,


FWIW, and you're probably already way ahead of me... ;D    Modeling your time frame, I would expect those bright yellow handrails to be gray or a similar drab color.  Ditto waste barrels, etc.  Flammable rag safety cans would likely be red, and most safety notices from that time period I have seen were either white on green or the reverse.  Step edges and stair treads would likely be gray also.  I started working in a large facility in 1969 and they were just starting to go with (safety) yellow handrails (top rail only) and step edges then.


Jerry,

I think the yellow looks perfect for a more recent diesel facility. Actually, I've never seen a yellow waste barrel. In the shops, old and new I've been in, they were all old weathered silver of gray as you said. The fuel wags were in red cans or barrels. It seems if I remember correctly, diesel knobs and signs were in green or white.

In the above photos, I think there is to much yellow even for a modern facility. The only weathering I see is a little on the slab.

I like the idea of a drab or gray color for the rails, steps and walkway. The fuel and dirty hands would make everything look wonderfully nasty after some time anyway.

We, my friend, are on the same page.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on February 24, 2021, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 24, 2021, 04:40:29 PM
Hey Tom:

beautiful job on the diesel facility.

Karl

Karl,

Yes, James did a great job on his. I haven't started mine yet and it will be much more weathered then the one shown above.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on February 25, 2021, 01:39:36 PM
Tom,
That large Diamond Scale Diesel Service kit that you will be installing and building will be a focal point on your Summit level of the A&S RR.
Will follow along...
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 18, 2021, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 25, 2021, 01:39:36 PM
Tom,
That large Diamond Scale Diesel Service kit that you will be installing and building will be a focal point on your Summit level of the A&S RR.
Will follow along...
Tommy


Tommy,

I apologize for not responding to your post in a timely manner. No excuses.

I'm very much looking forward to building it but it will be a year out prior to the start.

Tom  ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 18, 2021, 05:56:48 PM
I've neglected this thread for no other reason than me being very busy. I'm doing many different things for others but only a couple for me.

Anyway, here is a little Throw Back Thursday look at the Atlantic and Southern.

The Judge sent me a photo he took of the layout room in September 2014. I couldn't "save as" in his format. I did save it but it was small and when enlarged the focus was terrible.

So, the first photo is one I took in late December 2013. Not much different than his photo but you can see in the left and right rear of the photo some bench work.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180321141432.jpeg)


This next photo was taken last week. About seven years difference.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180321141504.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 18, 2021, 05:59:02 PM
My plan is to begin the water pour on Sunday or Monday. Yes, I'll post photos along with how it went.

I feel like two steps forward results in more than two steps in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on March 18, 2021, 06:01:13 PM
Tom, Beautiful job on that layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 18, 2021, 07:27:39 PM
Dennis,

Thank you for the nice compliment, appreciate it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on March 18, 2021, 07:30:48 PM
Tom


Love the before and after pictures.  Your layout is beautiful and it's great to see all the progress you have made.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: TomW on March 18, 2021, 07:35:18 PM
Tom, Wow what progress since I saw it last. Love the engine turntable and facility. Beautiful job.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on March 18, 2021, 07:38:08 PM
7 years , mine doesn't look even close to that after 14 years, beautiful layout Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Erieman on March 18, 2021, 11:17:38 PM
OMG, The layout is coming along great. Really enjoy the overall picture. Its amazing how much you have accomplished in such a short time. Really looking great Tom. Keep up the wonderful job. It takes a long time to fil in the layout. I know. You are doing an amazing effort on the A&S build. Still looks like a lot of tubs under the layout!


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on March 19, 2021, 07:17:06 AM
Love the before and after. Layout looks great!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on March 19, 2021, 07:22:26 AM
My layout isn't near that complete after 20 years, you're doing incredible work.  But, where was all that stuff before you built the outbuilding?


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 19, 2021, 08:03:59 AM
Tom,


I was aghast when you tore down your old layout.  It is now obvious that your vision for what could be was spot on.  Your layout is simply amazing from my point of view; in conception, construction, and the incredible modeling skills that translate your vision into reality. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 19, 2021, 08:32:24 AM
Jeez Tom, has it been 7 years.....were the heck is the time going?  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on March 19, 2021, 11:01:18 AM
Looks great. Enjoying the progress. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 19, 2021, 11:49:54 AM
That's some serious progress, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on March 19, 2021, 12:24:21 PM
That's one nice looking layout. Goes to show what can be done in a narrow space with double decking.

Very inspirational.

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on March 19, 2021, 05:07:08 PM
7 years difference? There is hope for us all......

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 05:15:50 PM
Hey Tom:

That is one beautiful RR. Love the round house area.

Karl.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 18, 2021, 07:30:48 PM
Tom


Love the before and after pictures.  Your layout is beautiful and it's great to see all the progress you have made.

John,

Thank you for the nice compliment on the layout. Hard to believe I've come this far in that time frame.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 05:59:53 PM
Quote from: TomW on March 18, 2021, 07:35:18 PM
Tom, Wow what progress since I saw it last. Love the engine turntable and facility. Beautiful job.

Tom,

Good to see you my friend. Been some time since you were here. The turntable area is a favorite of mine as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:02:04 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on March 18, 2021, 07:38:08 PM
7 years , mine doesn't look even close to that after 14 years, beautiful layout Tom


Jan,

There were a couple of years in the middle where I had all the time devoted to the layout. Now it seems I don't know when I had time to work.

I've been selling Jim Miller's stuff on Ebay and that requires some time.

And, thank you for the kind compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Erieman on March 18, 2021, 11:17:38 PM
OMG, The layout is coming along great. Really enjoy the overall picture. Its amazing how much you have accomplished in such a short time. Really looking great Tom. Keep up the wonderful job. It takes a long time to fil in the layout. I know. You are doing an amazing effort on the A&S build. Still looks like a lot of tubs under the layout!


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thanks for taking the time to check in on the layout. I'm going to try and be more consistent with the before and after photos on Thursday.

There will always be lots of tubs under the layout. I haven't found a hobby shop I can stock my stuff with.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: cuse on March 19, 2021, 07:17:06 AM
Love the before and after. Layout looks great!


John


John,

Thank you. The before and after really shows how far I've come since December 2013.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 19, 2021, 07:22:26 AM
My layout isn't near that complete after 20 years, you're doing incredible work.  But, where was all that stuff before you built the outbuilding?


Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you for the kind words on the layout progress. My old layout was 54" from the floor so I had lots of room to store stuff under the layout. With the staging level (The Bottoms), I now only have 24" from the floor to the layout. All the stuff was in the kitchen and other parts of the layout room. I got so I moved stuff from spot to spot as the lower level progressed.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 19, 2021, 08:03:59 AM
Tom,


I was aghast when you tore down your old layout.  It is now obvious that your vision for what could be was spot on.  Your layout is simply amazing from my point of view; in conception, construction, and the incredible modeling skills that translate your vision into reality.


Jerry,

It was a decision that wasn't made lightly. After Pam and I visited Cliff Powers, the decision was much easier.

Thank you also for the very kind and generous compliment on layout. Nothing is on paper as it just comes to me as I move from area to area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 19, 2021, 08:32:24 AM
Jeez Tom, has it been 7 years.....were the heck is the time going?  :o


Greg,

Here is a photo of you and the Judge a few days after the old layout removal was complete. This is the area where the Ovalix is now located. I believe this was March of 2014.

Tom  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191654.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on March 19, 2021, 11:01:18 AM
Looks great. Enjoying the progress. Jim


Jim,

Thank you very much for checking in and following along.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on March 19, 2021, 11:49:54 AM
That's some serious progress, Tom!

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Yes, and I need to get back into the serious progress mode.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Bernd on March 19, 2021, 12:24:21 PM
That's one nice looking layout. Goes to show what can be done in a narrow space with double decking.

Very inspirational.

Bernd


Bernd,

Thank you. The layout room is 11 feet wide and 39 feet long. The Ovalix takes up the 12X18 "L" portion of the room. The photo below shows the "L" portion.

Tom  ;D

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on March 19, 2021, 05:07:08 PM
7 years difference? There is hope for us all......

Doug


Doug,

Yes, there is always hope for all of us. I don't work as fast as I once did. Honestly, my Covid-19 experience has greatly reduced my ability to stay at it for extended periods. Hopefully it will get better with time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 05:15:50 PM
Hey Tom:

That is one beautiful RR. Love the round house area.

Karl.


Karl,

Thank you as well. The round house is one of my favorite areas also.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on March 19, 2021, 06:27:58 PM
Tom,

I've been following your layout build since I found the thread before I joined. It's been a very inspirational for me from the pictures and techniques in use building the layout and buildings.

Same goes for John Selkirk's layout. I followed that build too and still am. Glad I joined the forum to try and soar with the eagles. Tough act to follow.

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: Bernd on March 19, 2021, 06:27:58 PM
Tom,

I've been following your layout build since I found the thread before I joined. It's been a very inspirational for me from the pictures and techniques in use building the layout and buildings.

Same goes for John Selkirk's layout. I followed that build too and still am. Glad I joined the forum to try and soar with the eagles. Tough act to follow.

Bernd

Bernd,

Thank you so much for the comment.  This layout has been the one I dreamed about growing up. I'm very fortunate to have this space.

And, I'm sure I speak for others that we are very glad you joined the forum.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 07:24:14 PM
Hey Tom:

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 20, 2021, 09:35:49 AM
Hey Tom.....thanks for the old picture.....I think Bill and I were a bit younger in those days..... ;D

Here is an early version of level 2.....hope it helps the guys visualize the overall plan a bit better.  :)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/27-200321092850-484751728.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on March 22, 2021, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:02:04 PM


I've been selling Jim Miller's stuff on Ebay and that requires some time.



I can attest to that.  Dismantling and trying to sell off a friend's layout who passed away unexpectedly.  Spent the afternoon organizing sections of flex track and switches.  Hope to sell a bunch this week.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on March 22, 2021, 09:19:21 AM
Wow!!  Tom you've come along way with the RR.


Love the before and after picture.


You have done a beautiful job with this creation of yours.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on March 22, 2021, 10:45:20 AM
Tom;

You are an inspiration for us less experienced modelers. Glad I met you and love following along. You truly do incredible work. Thanks for sharing.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on March 22, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
I 2nd that!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on March 22, 2021, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 06:02:04 PM


I've been selling Jim Miller's stuff on Ebay and that requires some time.



I can attest to that.  Dismantling and trying to sell off a friend's layout who passed away unexpectedly.  Spent the afternoon organizing sections of flex track and switches.  Hope to sell a bunch this week.


Larry,

All I can say is that I feel your pain. Selling the train items for Claire is one thing but helping her take down the layout Jim so loved working one was very rough on both Claire and me. :'(

Thanks for stopping by and posting a comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 04:49:33 PM
Quote from: Jerry on March 22, 2021, 09:19:21 AM
Wow!!  Tom you've come along way with the RR.


Love the before and after picture.


You have done a beautiful job with this creation of yours.


Jerry


Jerry,

Seems like yesterday when the old one came down. Thank you Jerry for the nice compliment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on March 22, 2021, 10:45:20 AM
Tom;

You are an inspiration for us less experienced modelers. Glad I met you and love following along. You truly do incredible work. Thanks for sharing.

Jim D

Jim,

And others on the forum are an inspiration for me. Very happy we met and you had the opportunity to see the A&S RR up close.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:20:38 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on March 22, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
I 2nd that!!!!!


Dennis,

Thank you,  much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:37:05 PM
Today was water pour day for the A&S RR. I didn't give it much chance as the day started off cool and wet. I wanted it poured today so I let the dehumidifier run a few hours to warm the room and remove any moisture.

As I mentioned a few months ago, I'm using a product called Magic Water by Unreal Details. It is a two part resin mix.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164034.jpeg)

This is the same material I used in the Suwannee River Lagoon area, shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260121101109.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:46:24 PM
The larger "B" bottle was hard when removed. If you aren't  familiar with this product, you'd think you got a bad batch of the stuff. Part "B" mix in both my bottles were hard and white/creamy colored.

Do not worry about this, it is natural. To fix it and get it back to a clear liquid state, simply put it in the microwave.


NOTE: Read the directions as it states microwave at 10 second intervals until it is clear.

In the photo below, the bottle on the left has been nuked (now clear) and the one on the right shows the milky white color.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164047.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164101.jpeg)

Back in a few, grabbing a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:52:26 PM
I got a cheap mixing bowl from the $$ Store. I poured both bottles of "A" and "B" in the bowl. The directions call for mixing the resin for 5 minutes and when done, mix/stir for another 5 minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321174929.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 05:55:22 PM
After all the mixing and prep work, the resin water was poured.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164114.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164146.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 22, 2021, 06:00:47 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220321164200.jpeg)

It dries in about 24 hours and a few days to completely cure. I love this product as it won't crack, dry out or yellow with age. It cures to a very hard rubber like feel. It can be poured up to 1/2 thick and can be poured on top of itself when the other layer is dry.

Like water it seeks it's own level. I haven't decided if I'll add another layer to this one. A decision for next week.  ???

More on this resin water later when it is cured.

Done for today.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: EricQuebec on March 22, 2021, 06:30:51 PM
Love it.
I've the same result with Envirotex (resin form liquitex brand)

Eric
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 22, 2021, 11:07:32 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. I always enjoy the photos of your RR. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 23, 2021, 09:00:43 AM
The water looks terrific Tom.....can't wait to see it up close.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: NKP768 on March 23, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
Water looks great Tom....

Doug
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on March 23, 2021, 04:15:38 PM
Water looks good so far.  Does the stuff have an odor before drying?

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2021, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on March 22, 2021, 06:30:51 PM
Love it.
I've the same result with Envirotex (resin form liquitex brand)

Eric


Eric,

Thank you. I've used Envirotex in the past and it always yellowed with age. This is why I went to Magic Water as it dries clear and stays clear.

Is Liquitex a new version of the old Envirotex?

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2021, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 22, 2021, 11:07:32 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. I always enjoy the photos of your RR. Keep up the good work.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you and thanks for the kind words and for being a loyal follower of this thread. I always have plenty of photos.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2021, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 23, 2021, 09:00:43 AM
The water looks terrific Tom.....can't wait to see it up close.  8)

Greg,

Thanks, I've very happy with how it turned out. However, remember this is just the first step in the water process.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2021, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: NKP768 on March 23, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
Water looks great Tom....

Doug

Doug,

Thank you, much appreciate your comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 23, 2021, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 23, 2021, 04:15:38 PM
Water looks good so far.  Does the stuff have an odor before drying?

Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you. There is no odor what so ever, in the mixing or drying process. The key is to make sure it is thoroughly mixed per the directions. This is the third time I've used Magic Water and I've never smelled an odor and the lagoon I poured four years ago is still clear.

As I mentioned to Eric, it dries clear and stays clear.

Kathy Millet has a You Tube on Magic Water vs. Envirotex Lite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H55xG73F9s

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 23, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
Hey Tom:

You are quite welcome.

Karl S
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on March 24, 2021, 07:11:32 AM
Great start to finishing the river.  It's looking pretty darn great so far!   :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on March 24, 2021, 07:36:04 AM
Looks great Tom;

Did you cover the water after pouring or just kept the area quiet? I know we both used the Woodland Scenics product with iffy results so am interested in this for my next project 'Silver 'Springs 1910'.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on March 24, 2021, 10:57:30 AM
Tom terrific job on that pour.


Looks great!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on March 24, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Hello Tom, the water looks great, can't wait to see the finished product.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 07:44:48 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 24, 2021, 07:11:32 AM
Great start to finishing the river.  It's looking pretty darn great so far!   :D

Bob,


Thanks very much. It was a long time coming and look even better when finished.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on March 24, 2021, 07:36:04 AM
Looks great Tom;

Did you cover the water after pouring or just kept the area quiet? I know we both used the Woodland Scenics product with iffy results so am interested in this for my next project 'Silver 'Springs 1910'.

Jim D

Jim,

No, no cover, I poured and left. Woodland Scenics water product sucks! for Silver Springs this is what you want to use. The key will be getting the color right on the base prior to the pour.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Jerry on March 24, 2021, 10:57:30 AM
Tom terrific job on that pour.


Looks great!!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you, much appreciate you checking in.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 07:49:07 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on March 24, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Hello Tom, the water looks great, can't wait to see the finished product.   Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you as well. It will be another week or so before I add more.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 07:58:27 PM
I'm now 48 hours+ on the water pour. It still looks good. The extra effort to seal the area prior to the pour paid off. I had no leaks of the resin water.

The Magic Water, just like real water, will seek it's own level. Prior to the pour I made sure the base was level.  My level bubble was in the middle of the two black lines. I've learned with this pour that it wasn't exactly level.

The effect I have on the river is high tide on one side and low tide on the other. Not much difference but if you look you can see the low tide. This is not really an issue for me as it can be covered by the use of Mod Podge later.

In the next photo you can see the old tire is under water.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240321194314.jpeg)

The next photo shows the old car frame at "low tide".

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240321194326.jpeg)

And so it goes.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2021, 08:00:45 PM
Being a UF and Gator fan I had to have "Albert the Alligator" in the river. You can also say this is Fat Albert. Here in Florida, the gators can get al large as 16-18 feet in length.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240321194339.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Dennis Bourey on March 24, 2021, 09:24:42 PM
Tom, I know it's not Florida. But when I was in Georgia they scared the heck out of me at the Okefenokee Swamps.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on March 25, 2021, 08:34:24 AM
Tom love the "GATOR"!!


In real life wouldn't it be likely one side could be lower than the other?  Even if it bothers you! :)


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 25, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
Hey Tom.....looks like Albert has a better home than on the old layout, he's near a food source that ought to keep him fat and happy.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on March 24, 2021, 09:24:42 PM
Tom, I know it's not Florida. But when I was in Georgia they scared the heck out of me at the Okefenokee Swamps.

Dennis,

Yep, the Oke swamp is a great place for gators. We have them here in local lakes as they travel from lake to lake using the drainage pipes between the lakes. Gators usually won't bother humans unless they (humans) are in the water between the mother and her nest. Mating season is also a great time for staying out of the water. As the waters warms in April, they get fired up and the actually mating is from late April to late June.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: Jerry on March 25, 2021, 08:34:24 AM
Tom love the "GATOR"!!


In real life wouldn't it be likely one side could be lower than the other?  Even if it bothers you! :)


Jerry


Jerry,

It really doesn't bother me as it isn't that noticeable. I just made it a point of interest. When the waves/ripples are added it will be less noticeable.

In real life, since water seeks its own level, it wouldn't be possible for one side to be higher/lower than the other.

When building the first section of my train shed, then the kids playhouse, I used a clear hose, filled it half full of water and plugger each end. I used this home made level to set the first row of cinder blocks. I unplugged one end, added more water until it was level with the opposite side and bingo. The first rows of cinder blocks were level.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 25, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
Hey Tom.....looks like Albert has a better home than on the old layout, he's near a food source that ought to keep him fat and happy.  ;)


Greg,

There is a reason Albert is as big as he is.

When a student at UF, we would go down to the reserve and feed the Gators marsh mellows. As a young stupid kid, we didn't realize just how dangerous that was.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on March 25, 2021, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 25, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
Hey Tom.....looks like Albert has a better home than on the old layout, he's near a food source that ought to keep him fat and happy.  ;)

Greg,

There is a reason Albert is as big as he is.

When a student at UF, we would go down to the reserve and feed the Gators marsh mellows. As a young stupid kid, we didn't realize just how dangerous that was.

Tom  ;D


Amazing we all got out of those years in one piece.  :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 03:38:31 PM
Ain't it the truth. I still can't believe some of the stuff I did and lived to tell the tale.   :-X  Just saying is all.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 03:46:16 PM
For this week's Throw Back Thursday, I thought I'd share some of the old photos as the Ovalix was being built.

All these photos were taken over a period of late 2014 to mid 2015.

Framing first -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240514155616.jpeg)

Throw on some decking -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180514162127.jpeg)

Continued -


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 03:52:26 PM
Let the fun begin.

Here the base level is started.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180514162127.jpeg)

Of course the Judge had to check to see if the radius was 36", it was.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191733.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 03:54:50 PM
And up we go!

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240514155648.jpeg)

Each level of the Ovalix is 26 feet in length and raises 3.5 per loop for a smooth 1% grade.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
Approaching the second level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220614173240.jpeg)

Second level -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220614173529.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 04:04:01 PM
Up towards the third level, or the Summit on the A&S RR.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143024.jpeg)

At this point the work on the Ovalix stopped to finish the first level, the Bottoms, staging areas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143220.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
From the floor up to the 7th. loop. There are 10 loops in all.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143301.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on March 25, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
A biography of Albert the Alligator: https://pogopedia.wordpress.com/albert-alligator/  (My parents were huge Pogo fans.)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on March 25, 2021, 05:24:40 PM
That gator looks like he got rolled by the (crimson) tide.

Larry
'Bama '72
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 25, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
A biography of Albert the Alligator: https://pogopedia.wordpress.com/albert-alligator/ (https://pogopedia.wordpress.com/albert-alligator/)  (My parents were huge Pogo fans.)


dave

Dave,

That is a nice article. However, Albert is the UF mascot.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on March 25, 2021, 05:24:40 PM
That gator looks like he got rolled by the (crimson) tide.

Larry
'Bama '72


Larry,

Yes, but only by 6 points. Miss and FL scored 46 each against the Tide. However, there will be a time when you will be in my position.  8) 8)

My father, UF grad of '45, was a huge Gator fan. He had a saying when they lost a football game. "Same old Gators".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on March 26, 2021, 01:20:44 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great and that is quite A helix.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on March 29, 2021, 03:25:38 PM
I read Pogo as long as Walt Kelly's kids kept it going.  Still have the books my parents bought, including the song book:  "Deck the Halls with Boston Charlie, Walla, Walla Wash. and Kalamazoo..."
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 29, 2021, 10:55:00 PM
Enjoying these blasts from the past, Tom.

It is certainly an impressive ovalix!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on March 30, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
Hello Tom, the river scene is just beautiful !  It really shows off all of your hard work.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 01, 2021, 11:18:39 AM
Tom


I just got caught up with your build thread, the water scene looks great, and I enjoy the look back at the ovalix construction. I'm looking forward to your report on the next project.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 03:47:10 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 26, 2021, 01:20:44 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks great and that is quite A helix.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you for checking in and posting a comment, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: jbvb on March 29, 2021, 03:25:38 PM
I read Pogo as long as Walt Kelly's kids kept it going.  Still have the books my parents bought, including the song book:  "Deck the Halls with Boston Charlie, Walla, Walla Wash. and Kalamazoo..."


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on March 29, 2021, 10:55:00 PM
Enjoying these blasts from the past, Tom.

It is certainly an impressive ovalix!

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers, Mark,

I like looking back to see how far I've progressed on the layout, fun stuff.

The Ovalix would never have been built had it not been for the CAD drawings Greg (member of the SBG) DeMayo did for the A&S RR. That helped more than anything. It was a most enjoyable time working on and seeing it go up, little at a time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on March 30, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
Hello Tom, the river scene is just beautiful !  It really shows off all of your hard work.   Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you very much. I still have a few details to add to the river.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 01, 2021, 11:18:39 AM
Tom


I just got caught up with your build thread, the water scene looks great, and I enjoy the look back at the ovalix construction. I'm looking forward to your report on the next project.

John,

Thank you my friend for the kind words of support. My plan is to have the river finished with additional details by the end of the month so I can move on to the next project.

Tom  ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on April 10, 2021, 04:33:53 PM
Hey Tom:

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 04:43:11 PM
I've neglected the layout for long enough. I'm taking a few months off from liquidating Miller's railroad stuff. I'm very much burned out from selling his trains on Ebay.

My plan is to get back on the layout almost full time in the coming week. I want to finish the river area and move on to scenery around the two citrus processing structures.

My next big project is to add scenery and details to the two structures shown below. These were built for the Atlantic and Southern RR by Erieman, Frank Baker. I did some brass loco work for Frank, so we used the barter system for our efforts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161533.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161545.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 04:44:10 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161556.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161611.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 04:45:04 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161623.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 10, 2021, 04:48:23 PM
I need to make a few repairs to railing and support posts where in the move from spot to spot a few were broken/knocked off.

The Cracker Boy sign was taken from a book I have on all citrus labels. The Cracker Boy was a brand from the South Central Florida area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161650.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on April 10, 2021, 06:48:07 PM
These are some really neat structures, Tom. 

Its great to see them again.  Love the cracker boy sign.  I do love cool colourful signage.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 10, 2021, 09:27:32 PM
Tom


I can't wait to see those wonderful structures framed with your beautiful scenery work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on April 10, 2021, 09:38:44 PM
Hello Tom, Frank sure did a great job on those two structures, I am looking forward to seeing what you do to finish them.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on April 10, 2021, 09:57:20 PM
As always Tom, the railroad looks fantastic.  And I will have to remember that tip about not feeding marshmellows to the gators.  Sound like good advice.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on April 11, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
Can't wait to see those beautiful structures "planted" with ground cover...Hope to get there soon myself. Looking good!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on April 11, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
Hey Tom:

That's a great looking building. Is it scratch built or is it a kit. I'll guess and say scratch built. At any rate can't to see this area finished.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on April 10, 2021, 06:48:07 PM
These are some really neat structures, Tom. 

Its great to see them again.  Love the cracker boy sign.  I do love cool colourful signage.

Cheers, Mark.


Cheers, Mark,

Sorry I neglected to respond sooner. Thank you for stopping by. I got the Cracker Boy signage from a book showing all the ends of old wood crate/fruit box labels.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 10, 2021, 09:27:32 PM
Tom


I can't wait to see those wonderful structures framed with your beautiful scenery work.


John,

Thank you and I for one am ready to get to the scenery.  A few tasks to do first.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on April 10, 2021, 09:38:44 PM
Hello Tom, Frank sure did a great job on those two structures, I am looking forward to seeing what you do to finish them.   Jeff

Jeff,

Frank did a fantastic job on these two. I'm getting anxious to start.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: cuse on April 11, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
Can't wait to see those beautiful structures "planted" with ground cover...Hope to get there soon myself. Looking good!


John


John,

Thanks, you know you are welcome any time.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 10, 2021, 09:57:20 PM
As always Tom, the railroad looks fantastic.  And I will have to remember that tip about not feeding marshmellows to the gators.  Sound like good advice.

;D ;D ;D


Bruce,

Thank you for the kind compliment. Yet,  the stupid stuff I did in my youth scares me now. I should have eaten the marsh mellows myself.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 11, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
Hey Tom:

That's a great looking building. Is it scratch built or is it a kit. I'll guess and say scratch built. At any rate can't to see this area finished.

Karl


Karl,

I agree, these are fantastic buildings. Frank Baker, Erieman, scratch built both of these for the A&S RR.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Time to add more detail to the river area. I'm using Mod Podge, by Plaid. I got this at Sam Flax but have seen it at Hobby Lobby as well.

It has a consistency of liquid dish soap. It goes on milky white and dries clear.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165421.jpeg)

There was a brief discussion on Cuse's thread about bubbles in Mod Podge when applied. I didn't have this issue but did a little experimentation this afternoon.

I used a small 1" soft bristle brush to apply the Mod Podge straight from the Bottle. When taking my time and keeping the brush at a slight angle, no bubbles. When I rushed and/or "stippled" on the Mod Podge, I got a few small bubbles. The faster I went the larger the bubbles.

So, TAKE YOUR TIME!

I started on the east side of the river. I applied a light layer first.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165435.jpeg)

I moved further west as I went.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 05:07:45 PM
I placed the barge in the river and worked the MP around the sides and front. I'll make a more defined water flow around the barge as I build up the layers.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165449.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165501.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 05:09:57 PM
This next photo is about two hours after applying the MP. You can see it dries clear.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165516.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back later.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 06:43:22 PM
During the break I got started on the MP again.

I cut a very rough outline of the bottom of the tug. I didn't think to do this with the barge. i set the styrene outline in the river and let the MP hold it in place. When dry, I'll paint it flat black.

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continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 06:46:02 PM
I then finished the MP in the river area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421183941.jpeg)

The tug was placed on top of the rough cut outline. This way I can retrieve the tug later and it won't be glued to the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421183954.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 26, 2021, 06:49:58 PM
I have an area on the layout just south of the river that needs a structure. I left it open for the past several months while I thought about what to put here.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165631.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165533.jpeg)

I have a structure that will be a perfect fit. It's scratch build I built some 15 years ago.

I'll leave it here and as the Judge says, To Be Continued!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on April 26, 2021, 07:24:25 PM
Tom


The layout is looking better and better, beautiful work.  Thank you for the explanation of your technique for applying MP. I need to protect my technique to get a bubble free surface.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: EricQuebec on April 26, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
Very Nice work on the river. Personnaly, I use Golden Medium acrylic soft gel. perfec to make wave... less useful for river, and second disadavantage, this stock is very static, so the dust glue on it when dry, so must be varnish, and the last time I've make bubbles with the varnish. I will try your technic next time, and probably the MP too.
Eric
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on April 26, 2021, 08:20:15 PM
Looking good, Tom.

The water came out well.  I'm looking forward to a shot when it has all set.  Waiting to see your new structure...

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on April 26, 2021, 08:43:09 PM
Tom, I still have that "Judge's Quarters" building for you if you want it.

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on April 27, 2021, 07:31:24 AM
Looks great Tom.....can't wait to see what all you've been up to on Saturday.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on April 26, 2021, 07:24:25 PM
Tom


The layout is looking better and better, beautiful work.  Thank you for the explanation of your technique for applying MP. I need to protect my technique to get a bubble free surface.


John,

Thank you for stopping by and for the very nice compliment on the layout, much appreciated. I think the MP can look really good if done slowly and in layers.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on April 26, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
Very Nice work on the river. Personnaly, I use Golden Medium acrylic soft gel. perfec to make wave... less useful for river, and second disadavantage, this stock is very static, so the dust glue on it when dry, so must be varnish, and the last time I've make bubbles with the varnish. I will try your technic next time, and probably the MP too.
Eric


Eric,

Thank you for the kind words. I have some of the Golden acrylic soft gel. I may try it for making the waves from the tug and barge. However, the draw back is the duct gluing to the gel.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on April 26, 2021, 08:20:15 PM
Looking good, Tom.

The water came out well.  I'm looking forward to a shot when it has all set.  Waiting to see your new structure...

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you, it was a fun little job, well not really little, but fun none the less. I'll go over the new structure later this evening.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: deemery on April 26, 2021, 08:43:09 PM
Tom, I still have that "Judge's Quarters" building for you if you want it.

dave


Dave,

I forgot what it looks like, sorry. I just sent you a PM for more details.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 27, 2021, 07:31:24 AM
Looks great Tom.....can't wait to see what all you've been up to on Saturday.  8)


Greg,

Thank you my friend. Look forward to your visit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:17:11 PM
I finished the water late last night. Late for me means I was still in the train shed a little past 9PM.

I bragged about no bubbles in my Mod Podge; however, this morning I found a few here and there. These bubbles were in the portion I finished last. I think I got tired and rush the last half hour. I asked Pam to look and she didn't see any bubbles. I, on the other hand was looking for them and found a few.

Anyway, here is how it looked mid morning today. I'll have to rethink doing a second coat unless I make myself do it very slowly.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421185932.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421185947.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:18:48 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421190000.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421190037.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:31:09 PM
On a forum far far removed, we had a build contest. I think it was probably some 10 years ago or so, don't really remember.

I scratch built a small two story structure and called it the Four Aces Wrecking and Salvage. I remember pulling the sign off Ebay.

This will be the perfect small structure for this space. It will of course have to be removed from the 4X4 inch base.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165648.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165703.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
The structure comes off the sub base easily enough but the rest will require some keen surgery skills.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165717.jpeg)

This was a fun build and since it was a contest I detailed the interior.

I added full wainscoting to the walls, and added strip wood to the interior side of the windows. I used thin brass wire for the curtain rods. The oval rug is a paper cut out. The desk is a SS Ltd. casting.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260421165735.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 08:01:52 PM
I'll need to remove one tree so I'll have more room for the salvage yard. I wet the area around the tress and after 15 minutes used a small putty knife to remove the tree.

Now I have a little more room.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195605.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195703.jpeg)

Continued -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 08:04:16 PM
I'll need to make a few repairs to the structure. I got moved around several times during the past 10 years.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195639.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195728.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
Not sure I can get the sub base off without damage. I'll either make another one or put this structure on brick piers. A decision to make in the next few weeks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195716.jpeg)

Track side view of the original 4 inch diorama.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270421195650.jpeg)

Done for this fine evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 27, 2021, 08:09:30 PM
Oh, one last thing. With this last photo, I just went over the 5,400th photo posted on the entire thread.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on April 27, 2021, 09:42:53 PM
Tom;

I had some time tonight to catch up on the progress. All I can say is impressive. Learned a lot. The buildings Frank made will fit in perfect and the little salvage yard is great. I think the river scene came out fantastic. I have bookmarked this to come back to when I make the Silver Springs scene. Thanks for sharing. A lot of work went into this area and the results show it.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on April 28, 2021, 06:09:28 AM
The river looks great Tom. For those of us here watching the Mod Podge chronicles, I found that I could "clean up" bubbles pretty well with some paint touch up between coats...it actually added a nice "depth" effect, in my estimation. I also felt like the "foam" looked good around the rocky outcroppings, where the water would be aerated by the waves hitting the rocks and swirling around...This is what I excel at - rationalizing my messes with explanations found in nature  ;D


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on April 28, 2021, 09:13:02 AM
Hey Tom:

You never cease to amaze me. The layout looks just beautiful. Love that 4 Aces sign. Great modeling as always.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on April 28, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Hey Tom,

Nice structure and the detailed scenery is great.

How about cutting a square hole in to the table and placing the structure in the hole? Possible? Or, and I think this would be more difficult, slice the base to make it thinner. Perhaps a band saw would work to do that.

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2021, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on April 27, 2021, 09:42:53 PM
Tom;

I had some time tonight to catch up on the progress. All I can say is impressive. Learned a lot. The buildings Frank made will fit in perfect and the little salvage yard is great. I think the river scene came out fantastic. I have bookmarked this to come back to when I make the Silver Springs scene. Thanks for sharing. A lot of work went into this area and the results show it.

Jim D


Jim,

Thank you for taking the time to read all this stuff. Thank you as well for the generous compliment and I'm happy you were able to get something out of the thread.

Frank did a fantastic job on the structures. I'll be working on them later this week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2021, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: cuse on April 28, 2021, 06:09:28 AM
The river looks great Tom. For those of us here watching the Mod Podge chronicles, I found that I could "clean up" bubbles pretty well with some paint touch up between coats...it actually added a nice "depth" effect, in my estimation. I also felt like the "foam" looked good around the rocky outcroppings, where the water would be aerated by the waves hitting the rocks and swirling around...This is what I excel at - rationalizing my messes with explanations found in nature  ;D


John


John,

Thank you for the kind words on the river area. The paint between layers is a good idea. However, I've not convinced myself to add another layer to the river yet. I need to practice how to make motor bubbles under the surface and the waste water splashes, "cavitation bubbles" as you called it.

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2021, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 28, 2021, 09:13:02 AM
Hey Tom:

You never cease to amaze me. The layout looks just beautiful. Love that 4 Aces sign. Great modeling as always.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you very much my friend.  This was and still is a fun project. I plan on making a Four Aces sign for street side.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 28, 2021, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: Bernd on April 28, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Hey Tom,

Nice structure and the detailed scenery is great.

How about cutting a square hole in to the table and placing the structure in the hole? Possible? Or, and I think this would be more difficult, slice the base to make it thinner. Perhaps a band saw would work to do that.

Bernd


Bernd,

Thank you, much appreciate the compliment.

Cutting a hole for the small diorama is definitely out, to messy and difficult. It can be reduced in size with the band saw but I plan on increasing the size of the salvage yard also. All the stuff needs to be removed and more added to a larger yard.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on April 28, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Tom, sent you a PM on Judge's Chambers, but I'm not quite sure if it made it.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on April 28, 2021, 11:02:58 PM
Hey Tom:L

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on April 29, 2021, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: deemery on April 28, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Tom, sent you a PM on Judge's Chambers, but I'm not quite sure if it made it.


dave

Dave,

I got it and sent you a PM this morning.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:39:34 PM
Finally back to work on the layout and getting some things done.

I marked off the area of the scrap/salvage yard. I simply used a black Sharpie to mark the area.

Street side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173401.jpeg)

Track side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173416.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:47:21 PM
I used a large eye dropper and added some warm clear water to the scenery area to be removed. I let it stand for about 30 minutes and used a 1 1/4" putty knife to remove the wet scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173429.jpeg)

Some stubborn spots remained so I added more water to those areas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173443.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:50:59 PM
Now I'm ready to prep the area and add the yard fence.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173459.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173517.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:57:46 PM
I was able to removed the concrete slab for the building without any damage. However, I'm planning on making a new one, just wanted to see if I could do it.

I did decide to not use brick piers in place of the concrete slab.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173543.jpeg)

I removed the rest of the detail parts and will add much more to the new yard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173529.jpeg)

Done for now.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on May 04, 2021, 06:33:23 PM
 8)

"Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."   Will Rogers...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 04, 2021, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:39:34 PM
Finally back to work on the layout and getting some things done.

I marked off the area of the scrap/salvage yard. I simply used a black Sharpie to mark the area.

Street side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173401.jpeg)

Track side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173416.jpeg)

Continued -


Every great change on a layout starts with the commitment made with a sharpe. It looks like a good location - I can't wait to see what you do with it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 04, 2021, 06:33:23 PM
8)

"Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."   Will Rogers...


Amen to that brother!

T ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 04, 2021, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 04, 2021, 05:39:34 PM
Finally back to work on the layout and getting some things done.

I marked off the area of the scrap/salvage yard. I simply used a black Sharpie to mark the area.

Street side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173401.jpeg)

Track side view -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173416.jpeg)

Continued -


Every great change on a layout starts with the commitment made with a sharpe. It looks like a good location - I can't wait to see what you do with it.

John,

Yes, I agree. Even though we think we have it the way we want it, something happens that changes. More on this thought later in the thread and later this evening.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:15:19 PM
When Erieman, Frank Baker built the two beautiful structures for the A&S RR, he did so in exchange for some brass loco repairs and painting for his Morristown and Erie Railroad.

He added that I needed to get some SS Ltd. detail parts. Well, I did get the parts needed. I purchased some crates, full and empty and some freight roller parts. Railroad modeling is fun and certainly not cheap.

The two photos below show just how little $157.00 buys in detail parts. Not pontificating or complaining. just stating a fact.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173556.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040521173610.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:18:02 PM
Oops, here is another look at the structures.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161533.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100421161556.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:25:34 PM
I did cut and paint a new base for the two story salvage office.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170529.jpeg)

Here is how the office will be placed and appear on the salvage lot.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170543.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on May 08, 2021, 05:30:23 PM
Hello Tom, it's good to see you busy on the layout. The two citrus buildings from Erieman are going to make a great scene on the layout when you are done detailing them. Also, I like the little salvage scene you are working on.    Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:34:43 PM
Dave, forum member Deemery, sent me the small little office he built. He called it the Judge's Quarters. I showed it to the Judge this morning and he did really like the structure.

I wasn't sure I had a spot for it. Real estate in Tahope is getting scarce.

We spent some time this morning and found two possible spots for the office. Here is one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170558.jpeg)

Dave also sent a sign that states, Judge's Quarters, Objections Overruled, Bail Revoked and Subpoenas Quashed.

Back in a short time, time for a Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on May 08, 2021, 05:30:23 PM
Hello Tom, it's good to see you busy on the layout. The two citrus buildings from Erieman are going to make a great scene on the layout when you are done detailing them. Also, I like the little salvage scene you are working on.    Jeff

Jeff,

Thank you. The salvage area is my first priority to get finished. If not, I find myself starting many new small projects and then realize I have a dozen or so going at the same time.

Frank really did a fantastic job on the two citrus structures. I'm moving to them next.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:56:59 PM
As most now know the Saturday Butty Group met last Saturday, a real calendar Saturday. As Greg would say, "The miscreants involved were ACL1504, PRR Modeler, Reading Bob, Cuse and yours truly Greg Demayo."

Reading Bob brought his wonderful model of the Watchers Apartments. This is a FOS structure. His thread was wonderful but in this case the pictures aren't worth a thousand words. You need to see this one up close and personal as it is truly amazing modeling.

He gifted the model to the A&S RR. Not sure how I can repay him but I do know that buying him lunch once a month for life won't cover the bill. :P  I'll come up with something.

Now, I want to make note of a few details. The model sits on a 1/2" foam core base. This base and the model are married and can't be divorced. It measures 9 3/4" X 9 3/4".

It also needs to be viewed from all four sides to appreciate the quality of his craftsmanship. Also, it needs to be displayed so the roof details can be seen.

A possible location I had in mind was on the third or Summit level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170632.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170704.jpeg)

Although this location was considered for about 30 minutes, it is wrong for all the right reasons.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 05:59:28 PM
The best location is on the second level know as the Midlands and where downtown Tahope is located.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170610.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170621.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Problem #1 -

The structure is to large for the area as seen in the photos below.

It does look great on the main street but the 1/2" base needs to be half the thickness the 1/4" pink foam needs to be removed around the building. More on this later.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170717.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 08, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
Problem #2 -

You saw how it looks on the street/front view. Here is the issue for the size and how it doesn't fit in the rear track side view.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170731.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080521170746.jpeg)

Obviously the track will need to be removed and relocated. As mentioned earlier, real estate in Tahope is very scarce.

As the Judge says, "To Be Continued".
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Janbouli on May 09, 2021, 06:45:14 AM
Wow , what an incredible gift .
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 09, 2021, 08:40:53 AM
To be so lucky to have to make this decision!  Wonderful building to go to a beautiful RR.


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 09, 2021, 09:05:39 AM
Tahope is perfect for that grand structure Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 09, 2021, 03:57:45 PM
QuoteAlthough this location was considered for about 30 minutes, it is wrong for all the right reasons.

I really like the wonderful structure in the first location, Tom.  What were all the 'right' reasons?

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 09, 2021, 06:47:22 PM
Uncle Tommie,
Those are some wonderfull additions going on to the railroad!  I remember that scrapyard building from the contest on the "Old Forum".  I hope the old "Tom Loves Pam" sign will be prominently seen in its new home.

The Judges house looks very cool.  I guess the Judge will have to come up with a story about the house and why its located where it is on the railroad.

And that FOS Apartment complex is just the Bomb!  How do you get so lucky in having people show up with gifts like that for your railroad?  Are you sure your not putting a little extra something in their "Diet Pepsi?"

;D ;D :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on May 10, 2021, 06:00:09 PM
The "Judge's Quarters" is actually the home of the local Justice of the Peace.  (The main courthouse will be located in the Tahope City Hall)  These non-lawyer judges handled minor traffic cases and traffic-related misdemeanors.  They also handled preliminary hearings.  They had a law enforcement officer known as the Constable.  The office was funded from the fines levied, which meant the not guilty verdicts were few and far between.  The JP's were elected every four years so they somehow had to be politically acceptable to the voters.  We had one in Sanford who decided he would seize a little jurisdiction and help out poor people who couldn't afford a lawyer for a divorce.  He would have the people bring in their marriage license to his court and stamp "CANCELLED" on it over his signature.  Fortunately, nobody was charged with bigamy, but Florida land titles are so screwed up in some local communities it still requires a quiet title suit to sell the property.

I'm not making this up.  The JP's were abolished in 1968 in favor of a unified statewide court system.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ReadingBob on May 11, 2021, 06:56:28 AM
I feel kind of bad for being the cause of a track relocation project in Tahpoe.   :(  Lowering the height of the base shouldn't be too bad.  The only tricky spot is beneath the pole behind the garage because of the wires that run down the back of the pole for the light. 

Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 09, 2021, 06:47:22 PM
And that FOS Apartment complex is just the Bomb!  How do you get so lucky in having people show up with gifts like that for your railroad?  Are you sure your not putting a little extra something in their "Diet Pepsi?"

Diet Pepsi wouldn't have done it Bruce.  I was a Diet Coke man for many years but kicked that habit a few years back.  Now it's mostly water, unsweetened iced tea and a few things with a bit more of an edge to them.   ;)  I did get a jar of great salsa in return for the apartment building.   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 09, 2021, 06:45:14 AM
Wow , what an incredible gift .

Jan,

Thanks for stopping by. It incredible for sure and I have several of Reading Bob's kit builds on the layout. Some mine he built, some we traded a kit for a build and some like this one gifted.

What's even better is that he lives in Central Florida. Our good friend Jim Miller introduced us some 12 years ago.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 09, 2021, 08:40:53 AM
To be so lucky to have to make this decision!  Wonderful building to go to a beautiful RR.


Jerry


Jerry,

You are correct here on this matter. Thank you for the compliment on both the building and layout, much appreciated.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 09, 2021, 09:05:39 AM
Tahope is perfect for that grand structure Tom..... 8)

Greg,

Downtown Tahope is the perfect spot for Watcher's Apt. We have a snitch in one of the apartments that will report to Officer Poovey any miscreants.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on May 09, 2021, 03:57:45 PM
QuoteAlthough this location was considered for about 30 minutes, it is wrong for all the right reasons.

I really like the wonderful structure in the first location, Tom.  What were all the 'right' reasons?

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, Cheers,

Reading Bob did a professional build on this one as he does on all his kit builds.

It was wrong as it is big and the track needs to be displaced. And, right as it fits the the area, looks fantastic, is a large downtown apartment and gives Tahope the old Southern charm of a small rural city building.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 09, 2021, 06:47:22 PM
Uncle Tommie,
Those are some wonderfull additions going on to the railroad!  I remember that scrapyard building from the contest on the "Old Forum".  I hope the old "Tom Loves Pam" sign will be prominently seen in its new home.

The Judges house looks very cool.  I guess the Judge will have to come up with a story about the house and why its located where it is on the railroad.

And that FOS Apartment complex is just the Bomb!  How do you get so lucky in having people show up with gifts like that for your railroad?  Are you sure your not putting a little extra something in their "Diet Pepsi?"

;D ;D :o


Cousin Brucie,

This was a fun build and I'm very happy to be able to use it now on the new A&S RR. Yes, absolutely the fence will be used on this location as well.

As for the gift. I'm paying Reading Bob's son not to  move so Bob can't build a railroad in that bedroom. Bob said better have it here than stored in his garage. I certainly agree with that.

Bob used to drink Diet Coke but gave it up. I tried to give up Diet Pepsi and did for about 6 weeks. I got so grumpy, one day the Babe came home with some Diet Pepsi. Since that time it has been smooth sailing on the sea of matrimony.  :-*

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 10, 2021, 06:00:09 PM
The "Judge's Quarters" is actually the home of the local Justice of the Peace.  (The main courthouse will be located in the Tahope City Hall)  These non-lawyer judges handled minor traffic cases and traffic-related misdemeanors.  They also handled preliminary hearings.  They had a law enforcement officer known as the Constable.  The office was funded from the fines levied, which meant the not guilty verdicts were few and far between.  The JP's were elected every four years so they somehow had to be politically acceptable to the voters.  We had one in Sanford who decided he would seize a little jurisdiction and help out poor people who couldn't afford a lawyer for a divorce.  He would have the people bring in their marriage license to his court and stamp "CANCELLED" on it over his signature.  Fortunately, nobody was charged with bigamy, but Florida land titles are so screwed up in some local communities it still requires a quiet title suit to sell the property.

I'm not making this up.  The JP's were abolished in 1968 in favor of a unified statewide court system.


Yes, Bill is in fact telling the truth. I have a JP story of my own and it is the truth as well.

While a student in Gainesville, Fl and UF, I was driving home south on US 441 in Apopka, Fl. Apopka is just north of Orlando and is known as the Foliage Capital. Anyway, in my haste to get home in my 1965 Ford country squire station wagon, I may have exceeded the speed limit by more than a few mph. Got pulled over by the local PO PO and the court date was set for the next day, a Saturday no less.

Now, for me a $20.00 fine then was a very huge amount of money. I paid the clerk and he immediately handed the two $10.00 to the JP and he in turn gave one $10 back to the clerk.  Both $10 bills found the bottom of each pocket of the clerk and JP. No brag, just fact.  :'(

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 11, 2021, 06:56:28 AM
I feel kind of bad for being the cause of a track relocation project in Tahpoe.   :(  Lowering the height of the base shouldn't be too bad.  The only tricky spot is beneath the pole behind the garage because of the wires that run down the back of the pole for the light. 

Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 09, 2021, 06:47:22 PM
And that FOS Apartment complex is just the Bomb!  How do you get so lucky in having people show up with gifts like that for your railroad?  Are you sure your not putting a little extra something in their "Diet Pepsi?"

Diet Pepsi wouldn't have done it Bruce.  I was a Diet Coke man for many years but kicked that habit a few years back.  Now it's mostly water, unsweetened iced tea and a few things with a bit more of an edge to them.   ;)  I did get a jar of great salsa in return for the apartment building.   ;D


Bob,

Don't feel bad just keep building, LOL. You and I will have a consultation prior to any demolition.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2021, 07:16:22 PM
I do have an up date on the layout but can't get to it now. I'll do it tomorrow morning.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 11, 2021, 07:26:53 PM
Hey Tom:

Wow beautiful work can't wait to see them installed on the layout.

Ksrl

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: deemery on May 12, 2021, 09:01:54 AM
I'm guessing marriages and un-marriages could keep the JP busy.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 12, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
Tom,
Those structure gifts are really special and will make great additions to your RR.
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 11, 2021, 07:26:53 PM
Hey Tom:

Wow beautiful work can't wait to see them installed on the layout.

Ksrl


Karl,

Thank you, I'm working on it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on May 12, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
Tom,
Those structure gifts are really special and will make great additions to your RR.
Tommy


Tommy,

I agree, the structures on the A&S RR built by Reading Bob was what makes the layout look really good.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 02:43:37 PM
In 2013 when the old layout was being removed I was able to save a few details. Not small details as I did save all of those. These were scenery details that were actually made for a specific purpose. One such detail was, I think, a Builders in Scale chain link fence.

I remember debating whether to toss the parts or box them for possible use later. That was then and now I'm using it around the salvage yard perimeter.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184053.jpeg)

I glued the concrete slab in place and then made a test fit for the link fence and the old wood fence. The wood fence was a perfect corner fit and the chain link was fraction of an inch off. However, both will work for this project. I like the idea of two different styles of fence as it gives the appearance of a salvage yard using salvaged material.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184107.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 02:45:52 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184121.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184134.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 02:47:22 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184148.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2021, 02:58:59 PM
Satisfied with the look, I then glued both fences in place. The word "fence" reminds me of one of my hundreds of law enforcement encounters. I  may or may not tell it depending on how many requests I have to tell the true story. I'll need a least a dozen requests to move forward.

This will also show me how many actually read the narrative. I have a few followers ask how I did something when in the paragraph above their question is the answer. Some followers are just photo lookers, which is also fine.


Back to the fences, both of them. I punched small holes in the scenery and pink foam, added a drop of Elmers glue and inserted the fences.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184211.jpeg)

The small square will ensure a perpendicular fence post as the glue dries.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110521184222.jpeg)

Done for the day.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 12, 2021, 03:25:53 PM
The repurposed fences look very good, Tom.

Request #1 for a story please.

Thanks for your previous explanation - I didn't realize there was track in the way of the structure on the summit level.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 12, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
The fences look good there. 


Request #2 for the story.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: PaulS on May 12, 2021, 04:48:47 PM
Tom
Your new scene (as are all on the A&S) is coming along nicely and thanks for the interim pics to show the progress and how to.


Request #3 for 'the rest of the story ...'


All the best,
--Paul
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 12, 2021, 05:21:31 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great so far can't wait for more.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on May 12, 2021, 06:23:01 PM
Story! Story! Story! Please
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 12, 2021, 07:03:10 PM
I love stories!


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on May 13, 2021, 06:41:22 AM
Come on, Tom, tell us the story.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:55:16 AM
Request #8.....
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:57:49 AM
Request #9.....
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:58:03 AM
Request #10.....
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:58:20 AM
Request #11.....
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:59:19 AM
Request #12.....

A dozen, as requested..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:59:19 AM
Request #12.....

A dozen, as requested..... ;)


Cheater, cheater, besides Karl didn't request the story. Just saying.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 09:13:50 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 07:59:19 AM
Request #12.....

A dozen, as requested..... ;)


Cheater, cheater, besides Karl didn't request the story. Just saying.

Tom 8)

Request #7.....now the count is correct..... ::)

There was no cheating involved.....you said ".....I'll need a least a dozen requests to move forward.".....

I don't believe that the above statement has a qualifier that mentions a dozen requests from "different individuals", just "a dozen requests". If I'm wrong, which is highly unlikely, I will patiently wait for the story till the requisite number of requests are made.
;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 09:14:55 AM
Okay, since I didn't specifically state one request per person, I'll tell the story later this afternoon.

I think this may turnout to be another thread. Don't want to fill the A&S layout thread with PO PO stories.

I guess it can go under the Baggage Car but not as a daily chat. I'll call it Stories from the Street. I think this will be fun.


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2021, 09:20:28 AM
Thank you.....I look forward to hearing you tale.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 01:22:15 PM
So the A&S layout thread doesn't get bogged down with the promised story, I'll be telling it and other "Stories from the Street" in a separate thread. It will be under the "Stories from the Street" thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on May 13, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Hello Tom, just in case Greg's multiple requests don't count- here's mine to add to the list.    Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on May 12, 2021, 03:25:53 PM
The repurposed fences look very good, Tom.

Request #1 for a story please.

Thanks for your previous explanation - I didn't realize there was track in the way of the structure on the summit level.

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, Cheers,

Thank you and you are welcome. I'm still trying to figure out how to plant the complex.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 12, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
The fences look good there. 


Request #2 for the story.  ;)

John,

Thank you, the story is up under Stories from the Streets.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: PaulS on May 12, 2021, 04:48:47 PM
Tom
Your new scene (as are all on the A&S) is coming along nicely and thanks for the interim pics to show the progress and how to.


Request #3 for 'the rest of the story ...'


All the best,
--Paul


Paul,


You are very kind, thank you. The first story is posted.


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 12, 2021, 05:21:31 PM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great so far can't wait for more.

Karl


Thanks Buddy, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:18:49 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on May 12, 2021, 06:23:01 PM
Story! Story! Story! Please


Jim,

You got it! Thanks for posting.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 12, 2021, 07:03:10 PM
I love stories!


Jeff


Jeff,

And pictures!  ;D ;D  I bet you have a few Stories from the Exam Room.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
Quote from: Judge on May 13, 2021, 06:41:22 AM
Come on, Tom, tell us the story.

Bill,

I know for a fact you have some real "Stories from the Bench"

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2021, 02:22:05 PM
Greg X 6,

Read on my friend.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:24:57 PM
I cut and added the rest of the fence to the salvage yard. These two sections of fence aren't glued in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521181852.jpeg)

You can see in the photo below I've changed the location of the gate. An easy peasy fix.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521181905.jpeg)

Continued -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:29:25 PM
I glued the concrete pads for the stairs and lower front door in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521181921.jpeg)

I then removed the two fence sections. I cut toothpicks in half and inserted them in the fence post holes fat end down. This allows me to find the holes once the glued is covering the yard area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521181935.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:35:26 PM
I don't want a thick layer of glue in the yard so I squeezed some out and used a soft 3/4" brush to spread the dirt. I'm using Scenic Express Fine Natural Soil and Dirt, # SE0403.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521181949.jpeg)

Once I spread this out, I added more until I had the whole yard covered as shown below.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182003.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:38:02 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182016.jpeg)

I used a clean soft 1" brush to spread the dirt.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182036.jpeg)

Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a moment.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
Yet another fit for the office.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182050.jpeg)

The toothpicks were then removed making sure the post holes were open.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182107.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 14, 2021, 06:45:10 PM
The fences were then glued in place. Instead of attempting to put a drop of glue at the hole, I applied the glue to the bottom of the fence posts and then planted them.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182119.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140521182132.jpeg)

Done for now.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 14, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That Scenic Express dirt is nice.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 15, 2021, 08:44:33 AM
Shaping up nicely Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 15, 2021, 10:18:59 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on May 15, 2021, 10:25:36 AM
Nice. Application Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on May 16, 2021, 02:35:27 AM
Yo Tom,
I was wondering.  Is one of the "junk" items an old coke cola machine?

The world wonders....

The Diet Pepsi Kid
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Bernd on May 16, 2021, 08:37:53 AM
Time to come out of lurking mode.

Tom, I've been following your scenery projects from the beginning. I'm always amazed at how nice they turn out. I've always wondered how one gets such nice scenes.  Your methods have given me great confidence in trying my own when it comes to finally doing some scenery. One thing I've also observed is how you guys do your buildings and then incorporate them into the scenery by using a base to build them on at the bench and then "plant" them on the layout.

Great thread. Always looking forward to your posts.

Bernd
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on May 14, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Looking good, Tom.

That Scenic Express dirt is nice.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you, much appreciated. I really like the SE dirt. It comes in fine, medium and course. I pretty much use the fine exclusively.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 15, 2021, 08:44:33 AM
Shaping up nicely Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thanks Butty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 15, 2021, 10:18:59 AM
Hey Tom:

Looks just great. Can't wait to see more.

Karl


Karl,

Much appreciated, thanks very much.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on May 15, 2021, 10:25:36 AM
Nice. Application Tom

Jim,

Thank you and thanks for stopping by.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 16, 2021, 02:35:27 AM
Yo Tom,
I was wondering.  Is one of the "junk" items an old coke cola machine?

The world wonders....

The Diet Pepsi Kid


Cousin Brucie,

Yes, I'll have one old Pepsi and one older Coke machine.

Now, have a suig of Diet Pepsi on me. Out of your bottle of course.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: madharry on May 16, 2021, 05:08:05 PM
Tom,
Based on this structure came to second to last in the "contest" it looks marvellous. Well done! I think my effort came last so there is hope for me yet!
Kindest thoughts

Mike
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
Quote from: Bernd on May 16, 2021, 08:37:53 AM
Time to come out of lurking mode.

Tom, I've been following your scenery projects from the beginning. I'm always amazed at how nice they turn out. I've always wondered how one gets such nice scenes.  Your methods have given me great confidence in trying my own when it comes to finally doing some scenery. One thing I've also observed is how you guys do your buildings and then incorporate them into the scenery by using a base to build them on at the bench and then "plant" them on the layout.

Great thread. Always looking forward to your posts.

Bernd


Bernd,

Thank you for the very nice and generous compliment on the layout scenery. I've had many people tell me this layout has the best scenery they've seen. I'm very humble and appreciate the visitor compliments as well.

Actually, scenery is quite simple to do. The key for me is to have what I need or think I need when a project is started. I layer the scenery and let it be for a few days and then go back and fill in something that doesn't look to me as it should.

Reading Bob builds most of his structures on the 1/2" foam board. If I know he is doing one for me I ask him to leave it off so I can plant is easier. I've done it both ways so there is no right or wrong way in doing it.

Again, thank you and I'm very pleased you are enjoying the thread and getting a few "how to guides" in the process.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: madharry on May 16, 2021, 05:08:05 PM
Tom,
Based on this structure came to second to last in the "contest" it looks marvellous. Well done! I think my effort came last so there is hope for me yet!
Kindest thoughts

Mike


Mike,

Funny you should mention it. I was thinking this afternoon that this two story structure only came in 15th out of 16 entries. There is hope for us both brother.

I wouldn't and don't plan on changing anything in the way I build my structures. Structure contests are like my college essay exams, they are both very subjective to the reader and judge.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:34:11 PM
I spent this afternoon adding some scenery material to the base of the fences and also added the front gate area. The dirt here is about 1/4" thick. Tomorrow I'll check it to see how much of it shrunk due to the drying glue. I'll make the fix tomorrow.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160521172942.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160521172954.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:35:22 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160521173005.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160521173018.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2021, 05:36:01 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160521173034.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 16, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
Very nice detail work, my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 16, 2021, 09:43:00 PM
Nice job on the detail work.  Do you think the railroad will notice some of their switch stands are missing?   :)   If that truck gets rear ended, it's gonna make a big kaboom.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jim Donovan on May 18, 2021, 11:24:14 AM
If you haven't counted 12 votes for the stories count mine as a yes. I had already read your first story on fences before catching up on A&S progress. The building Bob did is something else. Moreover, so is your salvage yard. I love the little details like the truck sunk into the dirt and the dog, cat and bum. Your tread has a lot of ideas with great photos, thanks for sharing.

Jim D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: sdrees on May 18, 2021, 10:31:56 PM
You know Tom, that is oneway to clean out your junk drawer and place it on your layout in a junk yard.  This came out very nice Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on May 19, 2021, 11:22:22 AM
Hello Tom, I'm enjoying watching your salvage yard come together, you are doing your usual fine job.   Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 16, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
Very nice detail work, my friend.


John,

Thanks very much. I appreciate the feedback.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:28:38 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 16, 2021, 09:43:00 PM
Nice job on the detail work.  Do you think the railroad will notice some of their switch stands are missing?   :)   If that truck gets rear ended, it's gonna make a big kaboom.

Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you, much appreciated. Not sure where the salvage dealer got these. The Atlantic and Southern RR uses the smaller lantern style stands. The tanks in the truck bed are all empty. The two parties are in the office haggling over the price as salvage.  :) :)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on May 18, 2021, 11:24:14 AM
If you haven't counted 12 votes for the stories count mine as a yes. I had already read your first story on fences before catching up on A&S progress. The building Bob did is something else. Moreover, so is your salvage yard. I love the little details like the truck sunk into the dirt and the dog, cat and bum. Your tread has a lot of ideas with great photos, thanks for sharing.

Jim D

Jim,

That's okay, Greg made up the difference on a technicality to get to the 12 votes.

Thank you for the nice compliment on the salvage yard. It was a lot of fun to due.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: sdrees on May 18, 2021, 10:31:56 PM
You know Tom, that is oneway to clean out your junk drawer and place it on your layout in a junk yard.  This came out very nice Tom.


Steve,

Hey, long time no see. Appreciate your compliment and your post, thank you. I had more in the yard but didn't like the look. I'll be adding a few more details but they will be smaller. The yard is to clean looking at present.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on May 19, 2021, 11:22:22 AM
Hello Tom, I'm enjoying watching your salvage yard come together, you are doing your usual fine job.   Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you kind sir. The salvage yard was fun to do and it helped that I already built the structure some 8-10 years ago. I also had the chain link fence from an older layout of mine.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:41:49 PM
Yesterday, I didn't get much done but it took me several hours to not get much done.

I decided to paint the area of the facia around the south end of Tahope and across the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521170555.jpeg)

While that was drying I had a Forrest Gump moment. I thought as long as I have the paint on the roller, I may as well do a little more on the facia. When I got to the roundhouse facia, I thought, heck may as well go around and down the other side.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521170613.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:45:11 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521170627.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521174410.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2021, 05:52:09 PM
While the first coat of fascia paint was drying, I fixed the entrance portion of the salvage yard. Basically I just leveled the dirt from the highway into the yard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521170650.jpeg)

I then painted the second coat of green paint on the center idle fascia.


And while that was drying I cut a piece of clear Lexan and screwed it to the fascia. This will prevent visitors from reaching in and possibly breaking one of the structures near the layout edge.

I then added a small towel bar so the Judge will have something to grab to assist him in getting up out of the judicial chair.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210521170704.jpeg)

Done for today in posting to the thread.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: nycjeff on May 21, 2021, 05:54:00 PM
Hello Tom, it's looking really good. Your train room is just about as crowded as mine.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: cuse on May 21, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
Wow that fresh paint looks great! That's on my list too. I just know that with an hour's work, I can make a radical improvement to the appearance of the whole layout (particularly as mine is upper and lower). Nice job! It's that first step that seems to elude me :o


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 21, 2021, 06:54:01 PM
Run, Tom.  Run!

Looking great.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: S&S RR on May 21, 2021, 08:07:41 PM
Tom


Painting the facia really makes a difference, it looks great. Keep up the momentum, my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 22, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Tom nice RR and some some nice painting on the facia!


Keep up the great work!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jrmueller on May 22, 2021, 10:39:33 AM
Looks great Tom. Also neat and organized. We plan on moving into independent living in two years and I have to start "getting organized."  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: EricQuebec on May 22, 2021, 06:40:22 PM
An other advantage of painting facia is to show us somes pictures of part of the layout that we don't have see for a while.... and we love pictures .
Eric.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 23, 2021, 10:16:06 AM
Hey Tom:

Very nicely done.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: nycjeff on May 21, 2021, 05:54:00 PM
Hello Tom, it's looking really good. Your train room is just about as crowded as mine.


Jeff,

Thank you. Yes, the train room is full of stuff. I have more paint than I need, more kits than I can build, more locos than I can run and more rolling stock than will fit on the layout. And, I still have more stuff than I need.  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: cuse on May 21, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
Wow that fresh paint looks great! That's on my list too. I just know that with an hour's work, I can make a radical improvement to the appearance of the whole layout (particularly as mine is upper and lower). Nice job! It's that first step that seems to elude me :o


John

John,

Thank you. I could have painted the fascia a few years ago. It only took a couple of hours but it did in fact change the look of the layout.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on May 21, 2021, 06:54:01 PM
Run, Tom.  Run!

Looking great.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

Thank you as well. When I finished I said, "I'm pretty tired, I think I'll quit."  ;D ;D

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:19:44 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 21, 2021, 08:07:41 PM
Tom


Painting the facia really makes a difference, it looks great. Keep up the momentum, my friend.


John,

Thank you, much appreciate the support. I do have a problem with momentum and working on the layout. Post Covid-19, I still have an issue trying to stay focused and I still get tired quickly. Some days are better than others.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 22, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Tom nice RR and some some nice painting on the facia!


Keep up the great work!!


Jerry

Jerry,

Thank you so much Jerry. I also appreciate the encouragement.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: jrmueller on May 22, 2021, 10:39:33 AM
Looks great Tom. Also neat and organized. We plan on moving into independent living in two years and I have to start "getting organized."  Jim


Jim,

Thanks my friend. Good luck with the independent living arrangements. Hope all goes well in getting organized.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 25, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
Great movie.

When we went on our drive around the Colorado plateau I took a photo from the spot on the road where they filmed that scene.  I remember we stayed at Mexican Hat.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:25:06 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on May 22, 2021, 06:40:22 PM
An other advantage of painting facia is to show us somes pictures of part of the layout that we don't have see for a while.... and we love pictures .
Eric.


Eric,

I agree, showing fascia also gives everyone a better idea of how the layout is built. More pictures to follow in the coming weeks.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:28:49 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on May 25, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
Great movie.

When we went on our drive around the Colorado plateau I took a photo from the spot on the road where they filmed that scene.  I remember we stayed at Mexican Hat.

Cheers, Mark.

I think I've seen the movie more than a dozen times. I only saw it once in the theatre but see it a lot on the "boob tube". I've been to Savannah, Ga. where the part scene was filmed but that's it. I went to Savannah for Civil War stuff and just happened by the park and bench.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 23, 2021, 10:16:06 AM
Hey Tom:

Very nicely done.

Karl


Karl,

Much appreciated, thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 07:41:48 PM
I was going through more stuff and found a package of cat tails. I figured as long as I had them they should go to good use.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193211.jpeg)

When removed from the blister pack, I found they had a short steel wire in the middle. This is the center wire that has the cat tail on the top.

I felt they were to long and I didn't want to drill medium size holes in the water/resin. I used wire nippers and shortened the cat tails. I so doing I also cut above the glue line holding them together.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193237.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 07:44:53 PM
I gathered up the loose cat tails and held them with a tweezer.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193251.jpeg)

I dipped the bottom ends in a little hot glue and "planted" them around the waters edge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193223.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 07:54:17 PM
I was taking a break and sitting out by the pool talking to the Babe. After a few minutes I looked over and noticed the lounge pad had ripped on one end.  The lounge pad was stuffed with white poly fiber.

Of course, I helped it open a little more and the Babe said, "What are you doing?" I answered, "Finding treasure." I got up and said "Gotta go" and off to the train shed with my treasure in hand.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193307.jpeg)

These will make great 3D clouds. ERR, nope, but the white poly fiber has a more important 3D purpose.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193427.jpeg)



It will make my water in front of the tug more realistic as well as the splash form the drain pipes.

Grabbing a cold Diet Pepsi, back in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 07:58:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193442.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193456.jpeg)

I'll add a little sewage green to the splashing fibers.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2021, 08:00:17 PM
I applied a second and final coat of Mod Podge to the river surface and coated the white fibers also.

It had already started to dry clear prior to me finishing this coat.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250521193509.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 26, 2021, 07:37:56 AM
Now Pam has to go shopping for new cushions.....bet she doesn't look forward to that at all. River area is looking great Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: BandOGuy on May 26, 2021, 10:52:03 AM
"One man's trash is another man's treasure".
Good to see the Roni virus didn't stifle your creativity.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Blazeman on May 27, 2021, 08:38:07 AM
Stopping by to catch up.  True sign of genius to pull inspiration from an "innocent" happenstance like a cushion tear.

Also, excellent idea to install the towel bar as a grab for those who need assistance with rising and balance.  I operate on a layout with a lower level that requires stooping/kneeling to throw switches and such. This would be handy. I'll be sharing with the owner.

Salvage yard scene has so many eye-catchers.  Such a small footprint will grab a lot of study time.

Larry

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 26, 2021, 07:37:56 AM
Now Pam has to go shopping for new cushions.....bet she doesn't look forward to that at all. River area is looking great Tom.  8)


Greg,

Can't figure out the plan on the cushion. She bought a new one over a month ago and has it stored in the laundry room. She said she was going to wait until the fabric starts to fall out. I said it following out now. She quickly advise me that I was the one pulling out the fabric.  :-X  I didn't think it wise to pursue that issue.

Oh, and thank you.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 26, 2021, 10:52:03 AM
"One man's trash is another man's treasure".
Good to see the Roni virus didn't stifle your creativity.

Chip,

So they say anyway. It worked for me here.

I still struggle a bit at times but it gets better every week.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: Blazeman on May 27, 2021, 08:38:07 AM
Stopping by to catch up.  True sign of genius to pull inspiration from an "innocent" happenstance like a cushion tear.

Also, excellent idea to install the towel bar as a grab for those who need assistance with rising and balance.  I operate on a layout with a lower level that requires stooping/kneeling to throw switches and such. This would be handy. I'll be sharing with the owner.

Salvage yard scene has so many eye-catchers.  Such a small footprint will grab a lot of study time.

Larry


Larry,

Thank you for stopping by and posting your thoughts, much appreciated.

Not sure about the genius part but it did seem like an epiphany of sorts.

I noticed the Judge grabbing the side where the water is and thought the bar would give him more stability in getting up. I've used it twice just in working on the layout.

The salvage yard came to me when I was thinking the area needed something more than trees and grass. I then remembered the build from the old forum. Bingo, perfect fit.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:18:01 PM
Now that the river area is about 99% finished I can move on to the two Cracker Boy citrus buildings.

I also decided to move the two buildings back some. The #2 building was moved back 1 5/8". This lets me have larger trucks out on the road a little. I remember this from my youth around the citrus processing plants in the Orlando area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521135910.jpeg)

The #1 citrus building was moved back just over two inches. The new location is marked by the orange marker line.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521135924.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:22:47 PM
The area around the local plants were all concrete. This is what I decided to do as well. I used 1 ply cardboard for the concrete slabs. This is the same thickness I used on the road.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521135938.jpeg)

Here is how it looks with the building,

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521135952.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:26:41 PM
I then cut a piece to fit on the right and then used the two pieces to make a one master.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140006.jpeg)

For building #2, I marked the corners of the building on the cardboard and then connected the dots using a metal ruler.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140019.jpeg)

Continued -

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:30:24 PM
Fast forward and this piece was cut to fit. Sorry for the light bleed in the photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140102.jpeg)

I glued the two slabs in place and let them dry overnight. The rust color is from the weights. I used white glue and the moisture rusted the weights a little. The concrete painting will cover the rust color/stain.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140115.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:34:07 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140154.jpeg)

The concrete will look like this when finished. I'm really enjoying this part of the process.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140207.jpeg)

Continued in a few. Time for a cold one, Diet Pepsi of course.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:42:41 PM
I made a few visits to one of the local citrus processing plants to take a few measurements. This old plant was located in Mt. Plymouth which is located just north of Orlando. Al Capone had a winter home in Mt. Plymouth.

Anyway, I measured the concrete slabs as they looked off to me. For some reason, the expansion joints were at 10 X12 feet. Not sure why but I did mine the say way.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140221.jpeg)

I drew all the lines in with a pencil and metal ruler.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140234.jpeg)

Continued -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:45:16 PM
After the pencil lines were drawn, I went over them using a pointed punch to give the joints some depth.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140249.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140302.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:53:49 PM
I drew lines on the main road but didn't scribe the joints. This will be a paved road.

I taped off the sides and painted it with Floquil Guilford Gray.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140314.jpeg)

In my travels, whenever I stopped in a hobby shop I purchased some Floquil paint. I found two jars of Guilford Gray in a shop in Gettysburg, PA. Howard Zane told me about the shop. He said no one really knows how to find it. It was in the man's garage with a very small sign out front. This guy looked like Santa Claus.

The two jars were on the close out table.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140326.jpeg)

Back in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 02:59:41 PM
When the paint was dry, but not cured, I removed the painters tape. I'll let this cure for a couple of days prior to painting the concrete slabs.

The two structures were placed in position for a look see.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140451.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140416.jpeg)

Continued -




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
Can't forget the Cracker Boy sign.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140504.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140516.jpeg)

I be back in a few hours for a couple of Throw Back Thursday photos.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: tct855 on May 27, 2021, 03:17:33 PM
ACL 1504,
                Great update pics T you are the master of all you survey!
                                                                                  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: jbvb on May 27, 2021, 04:09:58 PM
If you want that filling material without stress, you might find it at Joanne Fabrics.  But the minimum purchase would probably build a largeish Winter North Atlantic WWII Battle diorama.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 27, 2021, 03:17:33 PM
ACL 1504,
                Great update pics T you are the master of all you survey!
                                                                                  KP-out...

KPI,

Thank you my friend, appreciate the compliment.

KPII  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: jbvb on May 27, 2021, 04:09:58 PM
If you want that filling material without stress, you might find it at Joanne Fabrics.  But the minimum purchase would probably build a largeish Winter North Atlantic WWII Battle diorama.

James,

I pulled out more than I'll ever need. I did see it at Joan's Fabrics but it didn't give me any ideas. Maybe due to it being in a bag all bunched up.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2021, 05:37:20 PM
Here is a little Throw Back Thursday.

Before - three years ago.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521173520.jpeg)

After - three months ago.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270521140345.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on May 27, 2021, 11:11:39 PM
I hope the church board applied to the Tahope County Commission to obtain permission to cut down all those trees for that church.  And what about the zoning?  The land was zoned agricultural and a variance would have been necessary for a commercial use to be allowed.  In Tahope County, it is difficult to obtain a variance without a significant political contribution.  How was sewer and water obtained?  Tahope Power and Light Co. would have had to provide power and that ain't cheap.  Will the construction of this church be cost-effective?  Not to worry.  The president of the Tahope State BankJ. Pierpont Forester, is a member of the congregation and his secretary, Volupta, keeps the books.  Major contributors include Police Chief Sean O'Malley, Attorney Marvin Bello. and the only doctor in the City of Tahope, Dr. Minnie Staysic.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2021, 07:49:56 AM
Judge,

As you know, most folks in Tahope are related in some manner. If not, they're obligated in some manner. A prime example is Three Fingered Freddy's Fireworks located a hundred yards next to the Tahope County country store and gas station.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280521074756.jpeg)

Remember, "It's not who you know, but what you know about who you know."
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Judge on May 28, 2021, 08:59:40 AM
Tom - I am sure you recall that when "Three Fingers" Freddy applied for the variance to build his firecracker establishment next to the gas station, the City of Tahope had no Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.  It was just a matter of greasing the palm of County Commissioner Walter "Wheeler the Dealer" Wheeler, who happened to be Freddy's cousin, and the variance was granted.  Walter, by the way, is a regular at the Friday night poker game that takes place in the A&S's only passenger car, a Pullman Solarium spotted at the freight station located south of the city proper.  He is related to Sheriff Dave Star by marriage and Judge Elvin Thomas is his uncle.  Government is tight in Tahope County.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2021, 09:27:10 AM
Amen brother!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: GPdemayo on May 28, 2021, 09:34:02 AM
Seems to be the way government is here and all over the world.  :(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: Jerry on May 28, 2021, 06:57:39 PM
After all that where's the bar??


Nice scene Tom!!


Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 30, 2021, 05:21:08 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 28, 2021, 09:34:02 AM
Seems to be the way government is here and all over the world.  :(


Amen to that as well.  :-X

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 30, 2021, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 28, 2021, 06:57:39 PM
After all that where's the bar??


Nice scene Tom!!


Jerry


Jerry,

Thank you, much appreciated. The bar is built but as yet to be placed on the layout. I'm only assuming you are referring to a drinking establishment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 30, 2021, 05:27:35 PM
The Cracker Boy sign and the two structures were removed. I taped off the road and painted on Elmer's white glue on the slabs.

This will seal the cardboard from water intrusion when the rest of the scenery is added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300521172511.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300521172523.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 30, 2021, 05:33:37 PM
When the white glue dried, I redefined the expansion joints.  I then painted on Floquil Concrete using a 1 inch soft bristle brush. When the concrete dries and cures, I'll weather the two slabs.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300521172541.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300521172603.jpeg)

In the photo above you can see I also started the first layer of scenery between the road and the layout edge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: postalkarl on May 31, 2021, 12:54:00 PM
Hey Tom:

Gas Station And Fireworks Store look just beautiful and looks like you off to A good start on the next project.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2021, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 31, 2021, 12:54:00 PM
Hey Tom:

Gas Station And Fireworks Store look just beautiful and looks like you off to A good start on the next project.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, much appreciate your compliment. Yep, I've got a great start on the next project.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2021, 01:14:03 PM
This thread has reached page 198 with over 203,000 views. Many years ago at the end of Part 1, I let the pages go over 200. The A&S thread crashed and I lost many photos and a great deal of my narratives. Jimmy was doing a project and happened to have about 70 of the lost 75 pages along with the photos and I was able to reconstruct Part 1, in part.

Jimmy D. suggested I stop at pages 197 or 198 just to be safe.

This thread will be locked and I'll start part 4 in a new thread. You can still view part 3 but won't be able to post any comments. You can comment on part 3 in part 4 if you so desire.

Thank you all for the continued support of the layout build and especially thank all of you that took the time to post your thoughts and comments.

Tom  ;D