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Title: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 04, 2020, 11:19:22 PM
This little kit has been staring me in the face for the past several months and time to scratch the itch.  That and with a new knee now scheduled for the end of the month, I'll need something fairly straight forward.
Single sheet of instructions with illustrations on the back.  Die cut opening guidelines, but final cut is on me.  Tape on the backside is an absolute must.  A small handful of color coded strip wood. plastic and metal parts.
Interesting rolled paper roofing and a ton of signs.

Come to find out that Sawpit exists in Colorado.  At one time it was a whistle-stop on the RGS.  The original store is long gone, but there is a new version of it there today.  The owner has a wicked sense of humor if his Facebook sign postings are any measure.  The now offer bar b q where they do the porkin' and you do the forkin'.  Sooooo, it would make sense for my version to have a bar b q shack on the premise, especially set in the backwoods of Missouri.  The kit has a covered area on one side and some tulle that could make a nice little eating area.  Our local  burger joint has something similar.
The openings have been cut out and bracing added and let set over nite.





Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: madharry on May 05, 2020, 04:36:10 AM
I am looking forward to your build. I built this kit some 15 years ago and IOM it is a winner.
Mike :)
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 05, 2020, 06:05:25 AM

Bob,


I've almost purchased this kit a few times, not sure why I never followed through.  I'll be watching to see if I should rectify that mistake.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Janbouli on May 05, 2020, 06:22:24 AM
Following along , built this in N-scale a long time ago.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
I'm in too Bob.  I've never built a JL Innovative Design kit.  I own a few.  I just never built one.  I'll be resolving that issue sometime in the coming months.  ;)
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: ACL1504 on May 05, 2020, 07:10:03 AM
Bob,

I'm in as well.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: GPdemayo on May 05, 2020, 09:50:04 AM
Me too Bob..... :)
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:08:32 PM
Quote from: madharry on May 05, 2020, 04:36:10 AM
I am looking forward to your build. I built this kit some 15 years ago and IOM it is a winner.
Mike :)
I hope I can do it justice.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:09:28 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on May 05, 2020, 06:05:25 AM

Bob,


I've almost purchased this kit a few times, not sure why I never followed through.  I'll be watching to see if I should rectify that mistake.
I hope I can keep the essence of the kit for you to decide.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 05, 2020, 06:22:24 AM
Following along , built this in N-scale a long time ago.
Glad to have tagging along
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
I'm in too Bob.  I've never built a JL Innovative Design kit.  I own a few.  I just never built one.  I'll be resolving that issue sometime in the coming months.  ;)
They have a bunch of gas stations.   ;D   I've got three waiting.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:11:39 PM
Tom and Greg, I hope you enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: PaulS on May 05, 2020, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
I'm in too Bob.  I've never built a JL Innovative Design kit.  I own a few.  I just never built one.  I'll be resolving that issue sometime in the coming months.  ;)
They have a bunch of gas stations.   ;D   I've got three waiting.


Hmmm, a ReadingBob gas station build, that sounds interesting !   ;)


And Bob, I'll be following along with your progress on the Sawpit Store as this has potential for many applications.  Looking forward to your rendition.
All the best,
--Paul
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:28:56 PM
Like I said, the markings and die cuts are faint, but usable.  And yes, the masking tape on the back side is needed.  This wood seems a lot harder than most.  These windows started as 4 over 4 but have some muntins removed to form a 2 over 1 double hung window.  Then trim the window trim to form a double window.  Hopefully some paint will aid in hiding the seam.
So here are most of the wall sections with openings cut out and bracing added.  The kit had some bracing, but I went a bit overboard.  I eventually added bracing on the garage.
The kit included two doors.  And they want the doors swapped out door frames so that the door with a glass panel would get a solid frame and the solid door gets the transom.  Okaaaay.  I looked through my parts stash and found some Grant Line 5072 doors with transom.  Wow, four doors for 75 cents.  And wouldn't you know it, I like it better than the enclosed units as it is almost a perfect match for the upper windows.

Now it was time for paint prep.  The wood got the AI treatment and the metal and plastic parts got to take a swim in the ultrasonic cleaner.
I'm still mulling over how to add Bubbas's Q smoke house.  Luckily, we have a couple close by that I can use for inspiration.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: PaulS on May 05, 2020, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on May 05, 2020, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
I'm in too Bob.  I've never built a JL Innovative Design kit.  I own a few.  I just never built one.  I'll be resolving that issue sometime in the coming months.  ;)
They have a bunch of gas stations.   ;D   I've got three waiting.


Hmmm, a ReadingBob gas station build, that sounds interesting !   ;)


And Bob, I'll be following along with your progress on the Sawpit Store as this has potential for many applications.  Looking forward to your rendition.
All the best,
--Paul
Glad to have you following.  For those into gas stations, they have a ton of accessories.

Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 06, 2020, 08:11:28 AM

Bob,


The photo of the prototype building is interesting for its three over one double hung windows.  Apparently these were popular starting around the mid to late 40's.  My old farmhouse was remodeled around that time and those were the windows that were used. 
I like that you changed your kit windows to two over one to more closely resemble the prototype.  Looking good thus far, I'll continue to hang out and follow along.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 06, 2020, 12:09:44 PM
Hey Bob:

Looks like you are off to a good start. Will be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 06, 2020, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 06, 2020, 12:09:44 PM
Hey Bob:

Looks like you are off to a good start. Will be following along.

Karl
Glad to have you along
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 06, 2020, 10:36:41 PM
The instructions talk about the little add on to the right as being a cooler and having ribbed siding.  The kit provides B&B siding, but I have a stock of ribbed siding.  So a change is in order.  I need to put the 3 sides together and beef up the structure a bit  I cut out some siding and it look like it'll wrap really nice.  But first the glue has to set up.

I've decide to paint the building as light yellow with white windows.  I've always liked Frenchies Bar in Melrose LA and some show it having a light yellow tinge.  But then, it could be color shift.  The windows and other bits received a coat of gray primer and must set up overnight.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 07, 2020, 08:56:37 AM
Hey Bob:

coming along nicely.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: cuse on May 07, 2020, 01:12:59 PM
I love this kit. I built it in N scale a few years ago. 


John
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 08, 2020, 09:06:21 PM
I got the parts primed, using Tamiya primer.  I've tried Model Masters spray primer, but it comes out fast and furious.

I wasn't feeling the Banana Cream yellow, so I over-coated it with Old Yeller weathering powder.  Uncoated below the coated piece.

I use some Builders In Scale ribbed siding for the right hand annex.  It has been given the initial paint sponging and the three wide plank door has been finished.  I found that I need to add some thin strip wood inside for more glue surface for the doors.


I went ahead and put the garage together to get an idea of how the main building will look like.



Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 08, 2020, 09:08:44 PM
The diagrams show the store side windows opening out.  I wish that were possible.  The tilt able windows only open inward.  This is the third build that I have done that use these windows.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 10, 2020, 03:49:12 AM
Hey Bob:

It's looking just great so far. Keep the pic flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 11, 2020, 10:30:29 PM
I got the store glued together and decided it needed a bit of foundation.  But instead of a full sheet, I used some 0.060" strips.  So while waiting for the gue to dry. I decided to build a picnic bench or three for the store smokehouse (yet to be built).  I have several of the Memory Lane Studios picnic tables.  Above the tables is the covered side porch.  I need to decide if the tables  or table will fit under it.  And if not just much bigger does it need to be.

The table construction is fairly straight forward.  Some extra cross pieces on the table top support and seat support.   There is a top and bottom to the table and seats, so pay attention to orientation.  I still need to learn a bit on the new camera as the final photo is out of focus.

Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:46:56 PM
Hey Bob:

You're working on it. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 12, 2020, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 12, 2020, 12:46:56 PM
Hey Bob:

You're working on it. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
I'll see what I can do.
The instructions have one add all the posters and signs.   Well, I can be a bit ham-handed and will do this towards the end.  In order for me to add on the open air it, I need to mount the building on a base.  And before that, I need to work on some of the roofing.  I'm not a fan of thin cardboard for roof decks, but I'll use what was provided here.  For the store, one needs basically a 4"x4" square piece.  Well, nerts.  The provided material is a bit short.  However, there is another card that had the gas pump, sign mast, and finished kegs attached to it.  Square it up and cut away.  Because the store roof deck is bigger than what the provided material can provide in a single piece, it has to be made up of two card.  As a result, I needed to add a ride beam to help support the card.

I sprayed the three brown sheets for the rolled roofing with dark gray primer and will over coated it with black acrylic paint.

Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: ReadingBob on May 13, 2020, 06:48:48 AM
Nice looking picnic tables.   :)
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2020, 08:54:39 AM
Looking good Bob..... :)
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
Nice looking build Bob.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 13, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Thanks guys. 


Today was all about the roofs.  Once I got the cards cut to size and ensuring that they were square, I drew out the tar paper guidelines.  I cut my rolled roofing to a scale 3 feet wide.  The normal course of action would be to have a 2" piece of lumber at the edge of the eave and then measure up 3' for the outside edge of the 2x .  This should give about 2" overhang.  Then from that line, measure up 2'6" until I get to the peak.  This gives a 6" overlap for each course.  I let the ends run a bit wild, but again, try to leave 2" overhang.  I also cut my strips about 33'3" long.  In this case, I had a bunch of short material left over, which I used for the cooler annex and garage.  When I have left over material after a course, I use that remaining material to start my next row, assuming it's over 2' long.


Here, I decided to use transfer tape.  Just be easy in getting the first little bit lined up and I like it better than glue.  That I reserve for the ride caps.  After the roofing had been added, the card is glued on.  I still need to start the weathering process and then will add the signage.  A lot of it.

I did change out the door and frame for the back door as suggested.  The instructions stated that It wouldn't fit properly, but mine seemed to fit just fine.

Then I can get these building mounted on some gatorfoam so I can add the covered add-on.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 14, 2020, 06:22:22 AM

Bob,


Coming along nicely.  I'm glad you included some information on correctly sizing and using the rolled roofing.  Many modelers don't seem to know these dimensions and their roofs look less realistic because of it.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 14, 2020, 07:58:57 AM
Hey Bob:

Looking just great so far. Like your color on the walls.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 14, 2020, 07:57:36 PM
Hey Bob:

Somewhere I posted never built any of their kits. That was A mistake and I have built A few of them. I have 12 of their kits on the kits on the shelf. I have built several of them over the years. Will see if I can find the photos. I like their kits. They are very nice. I have the Saw Pit Store.

My Rebelstoke Pick And Shovel is on his Website. I changed all the signs. I made it A Shoe Factory. Here's the photos. These are the photos I sent to JL Innovative Design. I built several of his kits. As I said their kits are very nice.


Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 14, 2020, 08:54:30 PM
Neat looking building.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 14, 2020, 10:28:38 PM
Postalkarl, considering your prodigious output, I can't imagine you being able to keep track of all your builds.  Good looking building.  Not my style, but good looking nevertheless.
One little extra was using left over material to build the outside bench.  There is a front and side template, mainly for making the crossed legs and seat length.  Using the 3x12 material, one needs two of them to get the width (?).  Actually, to accommodate the legs, the bench seat is going to be close to 30" deep.  So, easy enough to space out the 3x12s, add 2x4 material for the center.  I might add something for the back; or not.

I did get the buildings dirtied up in preparation for the signs.  I used weathered brown powder lightly daubed on the bottom and then drawn upward and then across each side.
There are a ton of signs and posters included.  As I do with every kit, I scan the originals and mainly use the scanned copies.  One sign not included was the Prestone banner.  And to me, it was a must.  I did find one and using Word picture tools, removed the background.  I made several different sizes and used the one that looked about right.  I ran out of steam and most likely will add a couple more, before sizing a mounting board.


Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 15, 2020, 12:18:22 AM
Hey Bob:

WOW!!! all I can say is very nice job on this one.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 15, 2020, 10:16:00 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 15, 2020, 12:18:22 AM
Hey Bob:

WOW!!! all I can say is very nice job on this one.

Karl
Thanks a lot!  Means a lot to me.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Janbouli on May 15, 2020, 11:14:34 AM
What a nice little build , love the color and the signs , well done Bob.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 15, 2020, 03:26:15 PM
Nice looking build Bob.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 15, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
To add the open air shed, I needed to glue the store to something.  I had a piece of left over gator foam/board of about the right size and glued the store and garage to it.  Then, it was a matter of gluing it down.  A machinist block on it's side made for a perfect spacer and kept it vertical. 


The instructions have you take a square of corrugated metal, cut to fit, for a roof.  Ummm, no.  I dug around and found some left over pre-stained 2x8s that will work for joists.  I had previously cut and painted roofing panels and these were mounted on top of the 2x8s.  Once the glue dries, I can complete weathering the metal panels.  This roof is a lot stronger than it looks.

While waiting for glue to dry (this a definite theme here), I managed to work on the visible register gas pump.  Here, the flying Pegasus logo was punched out and glued to the face of the globe.  The instructions are very sparse on how the pump is to be assembled.  I'll do some digging around on the interwebs to see how the pump handle is attached along with the hose/nozzle assembly is attached.


Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: postalkarl on May 17, 2020, 03:26:08 AM
Hey Bob:

It's looking just great. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Karl
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 17, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
I managed to get the buildings glued down and the shed and roof installed.

The visible register gas pump was a pain.  The instructions weren't all that clear, actually it was "put together per drawing", so I did some internet searching and found where the parts go.  I'm not sure why they keep using red insulated wire for the hose, but here it is again.  I needed to drill some holes in the pump base for the hand pump, hose outlet and nozzle storage.  I use a battery operated screwdriver with a drill chuck installed for a pin vise.

To clean the hand pump, there isn't a lot to hold onto, so I use a stir stick as a backer so I file a way.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: Oldguy on May 17, 2020, 06:38:51 PM
While waiting for the pump to dry. I also worked on the Sign post.  I find that for double sided signs, I cut along the straight lines, and rough cut the rest.  Once the glue between the two sides has dried, I then cut any curved bits.  The post has a cast metal finial, but it more ovoid than round, but it got glued on half way decently.  Here, the canopy glue is still drying.

And here is the gas pump.  I used floral wire for the hose.

Now, it is a matter of marking out the dirt and gravel areas and add some scenery.  I still haven't figured out the static grass thing. It just won't stand up.  Kinda loses out on the whole point of the "static" grass being upright.
Eventually, I will add a Bubba's Smokehouse on the left.
Title: Re: JL Innovative Design Sawpit Store
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Neat looking station, sign and pump.