I thought it would be interesting to document the removal of my old layout. I don't think there has ever been a thread on removing a layout and all that is involved. I've certainly learned a few things in the process. I'll share them as I get more into the thread.
I have about three dozen photos to crop to start with and I'll be posting them soon.
Tom
Well, let me say that if you decide to remove your old or existing layout, make dang sure you have the desire, fortitude and a plan in place when you do. I had the first two but had no clue what was in store for me. I had a very severe case of "a lack of understanding" about the demolition of a layout!
Those of you who know me and have followed my threads, my desire wasn't the issue at all. I have the fortitude to begin the demolition and here is the proof.
Also, since I would be taking hundreds of pictures of the new build and the demolition of the old layout, I needed to keep the pictures separated.
I labeled my old layout photos as LO and a number, such as LO1 - etc.
For the other two threads I came up with this:
NLO - New Layout to document the new build when it actually begins. The photos on the new layout thread as currently posted are just labeled for what they are.
DOL - Demolition of old layout.
When I added my last addition it was obviously empty. I had plenty of room to store stuff and add to the layout. With the existing layout in place the demolition took on an animal of it's own. I started removing sections and had NO WHERE to put them. I had a large display case in the middle of the layout and one I took apart on the floor. This was a major problem as far as space was concerned. I needed another train room to store my old stuff.
To get started, I felt I needed to remove the items under the layout. I especially needed to remove models from the layout and the rolling stock on the layout and what was stored under the layout. I started by removing and packing the extra stuff and rooling stock under the layout!
I purchased boxes from Public Storage where I have a unit so I can store other family stuff. Yes, I'm paying for a place to keep stuff we are no longer using. Does hoarding come to mind? I'll deal with that later but my RR is a priority.
When I removed the rolling stock, brass locos, some other stuff, etc. I had 42 of the size boxes shown below stacked in storage. 42 boxes of stuff I could open my own hobby store with.
The box is marked small but the actual size is 18" long X 13" wide X 13" high. I filled four of the 24"X24"X24" boxes but they were just to big and heavy when full.
Continued in a few days.
Off to a demolishing start!
I'll be watching to make sure you stay out of trouble...if that possible! ;D
That Greg-boy sounds like he wants to lean back against the old layout and be a Supervisor!
Them good friends are like that!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 20, 2013, 08:01:09 PM
Off to a demolishing start!
I'll be watching to make sure you stay out of trouble...if that possible! ;D
Greg,
Thanks for checking in! Anything is possible including me "NOT" staying out of trouble.
Tom :)
Quote from: gnatshop on December 20, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
That Greg-boy sounds like he wants to lean back against the old layout and be a Supervisor!
Them good friends are like that!! ;D ;D ;D
Gman,
Let me tell you, he is a great supervisor at that! That is if you include leaning up against the old layout!
Tom :)
Quote from: gnatshop on December 20, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
That Greg-boy sounds like he wants to lean back against the old layout and be a Supervisor!
Them good friends are like that!! ;D ;D ;D
Gnat, somebodys got to do it and I do have a little experience in that sort of thing!
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 21, 2013, 07:45:40 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 20, 2013, 08:01:09 PM
Off to a demolishing start!
I'll be watching to make sure you stay out of trouble...if that possible! ;D
Greg,
Thanks for checking in! Anything is possible including me "NOT" staying out of trouble.
Tom :)
You think? ;D
I'll be watching as I plan to tear out mine after the first of the year. Only not as big mine currently is a 4.5 x 9 rectangle and I plan to get a little better use of the 9x9 room I have been allocated
Having the great pleasure/privilege of being in Tom's man cave on occasion I can tell you that this is by no means a small undertaking. I recently ripped apart my own, very tiny (4' x 6') layout and that kept me busy for the better part of a day. I can't begin to imagine the effort this is going to take!
I'll be following along!
Quote from: Amagic41 on December 21, 2013, 09:57:50 AM
I'll be watching as I plan to tear out mine after the first of the year. Only not as big mine currently is a 4.5 x 9 rectangle and I plan to get a little better use of the 9x9 room I have been allocated
Ken,
Thanks for stopping by and taking a look see. I'll be adding more pictures later this evening.
Tom :)
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 21, 2013, 09:27:24 AM
Quote from: gnatshop on December 20, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
That Greg-boy sounds like he wants to lean back against the old layout and be a Supervisor!
Them good friends are like that!! ;D ;D ;D
Gnat, somebodys got to do it and I do have a little experience in that sort of thing!
Greg has a whole bunch of leaning experience! Nuff said!
Tom
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 21, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
Having the great pleasure/privilege of being in Tom's man cave on occasion I can tell you that this is by no means a small undertaking. I recently ripped apart my own, very tiny (4' x 6') layout and that kept me busy for the better part of a day. I can't begin to imagine the effort this is going to take!
I'll be following along!
Bob,
Thanks for stopping by and following along. I'm way behind in my photo posting. Fortunately, with a tear out/down not much of a narrative is necessary!
Tom :)
I though I'd add a few more photos. The good news is that I don't have to post a lot of narrative. Here, a picture is worth a thousand words as they say. I'm not sure who or the "they" are but they are correct!
Tom
More photos!
More photos!
Even more photos! I've removed the layout up to the area of the roundhouse. This is the area on the left as you enter the room.
I'll show the photos of the right side later this afternoon.
Thanks to those following along.
Tom :)
What's taking so long, Bill been there helping? ;D
Looking good!
Thanks Greg,
If I had the kind of help you are suggesting, I wouldn't be this far along.
Tom
Tom,
All I can say is OUCH. I know what you are planning and this has to be a painful change. I've been there and still remember taking the layout apart. Not fun my friend. looks like you are being very methodical in taking it apart and saving all the wood, wire, etc. That's even more stuff to contend with. You'll need another storage room for the transition. now i will only have memories and a few photos of your layout. I guess I'll have to come down once you get the new one started!
I've been cleaning up my room in preparation for my inspection from Cruse. looking forward to it. He's going to see my layout and my neighbor's, so he will be taken care of during his visit. I'm sure he'll bring back lots of pictures.
Glad to see your progress. hope to have a couple more ideas to you soon.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thanks for stopping by and taking a look at the end of the first build of the A&S!
I started saving the wire but not so much now! Yes, I need another storage area to store what is recoverable. About 95% of the lumber is going to be recycled and if not it will make good fireplace wood!
I appreciate your help and ideas. I didn't get the time to post more photos as I mentioned earlier in the post. Hopefully, I'll get the time this weekend.
Tom
Tom, It's like watching a layout build in reverse!!
8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 23, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
Thanks Greg,
If I had the kind of help you are suggesting, I wouldn't be this far along.
Tom
Quite answering my goofey posts and get back to work...we want to see some progress!
Merry Christmas Tom!
Anything that ends up in that big waste basket can go in the Ledbetter Charity Christmas Package to be shipped to Arkansaw! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom,
I received an email with the proposed layout design from Greg. Good start, but you know me, I have some suggestions. I'll be working on them this week and give them to john when he get here next week. I just get the willies when i see a layout being torn down. When i moved many years ago, my neighbor and I took my old layout apart. All i can say, it was not fun. you just have to keep saying to yourself that the new layout will be better and I am sure that your new layout will be awesome.
Happy Holidays.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: ak-milw on December 24, 2013, 03:26:21 PM
Tom, It's like watching a layout build in reverse!!
8)
Andy,
Yes, it is, but the reverse of the reverse build was much more fun!
Tom
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 24, 2013, 06:04:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 23, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
Thanks Greg,
If I had the kind of help you are suggesting, I wouldn't be this far along.
Tom
Quite answering my goofey posts and get back to work...we want to see some progress!
Merry Christmas Tom!
Greg,
When I joined mrrforums, I was told to try and answer every post or question. This came from king JD! So, for one thing, stop posting goofy posts and I won't answer your goofy posts! Gee, I'm feeling like Gman now! Anyway, don't you mean "quit" as in stop? Your spelling of "quit" is "quite" different!
Merry Christams to you and Pegi!
Tom
Quote from: erieman on December 25, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
Tom,
I received an email with the proposed layout design from Greg. Good start, but you know me, I have some suggestions. I'll be working on them this week and give them to john when he get here next week. I just get the willies when i see a layout being torn down. When i moved many years ago, my neighbor and I took my old layout apart. All i can say, it was not fun. you just have to keep saying to yourself that the new layout will be better and I am sure that your new layout will be awesome.
Happy Holidays.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I understand the willies. I had them for three months before I ever told anyone what my plans for the new year were going to be concerning the layout.
Mery Christmas to you and Phyllis my friend.
Tom
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 25, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
Greg,
When I joined mrrforums, I was told to try and answer every post or question. This came from king JD! So, for one thing, stop posting goofy posts and I won't answer your goofy posts! Gee, I'm feeling like Gman now! Anyway, don't you mean "quit" as in stop? Your spelling of "quit" is "quite" different!
Merry Christams to you and Pegi!
Tom
Okay...but please, don't start looking like Gnat ;D
Merry Christmas to you and the Babe and Joyce!
Quote from: gnatshop on December 24, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
Anything that ends up in that big waste basket can go in the Ledbetter Charity Christmas Package to be shipped to Arkansaw! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Gman,
The package is in the mail! I'm sending it via the Leadbetters choice of trasportation - a donkey with a small sail!
tom
I've been posting this demolition on the kitforums forum with a little more narrative. I'm waiting here to be able to post the photos in the correct placement of the thread. Anyway, here are a few more with a little bit more information in the thread.
This is the area where the old work bench was located.
Okay, I was trying something but it didn't work.
When removing this portion of the old layout I forgot I had stuff under the layout and stuff behind stuff that was under the layout. I found an old scented candle, a dead moth, an HO scale broom and a piece of wire insulation.
I also found three railroad signs I forgot I had and I found more old Floquil paints.
tom,
Looks like your demo has resulted in Christmas every day. It's amazing what you find under the layout!!! Been under my layout and have found all kind of misc things that I had totally forgotten about. Now I just have to decide what to do with them!!! Having seen your layout, I am in awe that you are making this change. That being said, I think that the new project will be even more awesome. I sure hope that you get a lot of help or consider full retirement, because you are chewing off the butt end of an elephant with this new project. :) :) :)
Have a wonderful day and Happy New Year to you and Pam. My wife and will be celebrating our 34th tomorrow (Sunday). time flies when your having fun.
Frank / Erieman
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
They went in the Ledbetter Charity waste basket that's headed to Arkansaw! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: erieman on December 28, 2013, 09:45:49 PM
tom,
Looks like your demo has resulted in Christmas every day. It's amazing what you find under the layout!!! Been under my layout and have found all kind of misc things that I had totally forgotten about. Now I just have to decide what to do with them!!! Having seen your layout, I am in awe that you are making this change. That being said, I think that the new project will be even more awesome. I sure hope that you get a lot of help or consider full retirement, because you are chewing off the butt end of an elephant with this new project. :) :) :)
Have a wonderful day and Happy New Year to you and Pam. My wife and will be celebrating our 34th tomorrow (Sunday). time flies when your having fun.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The word is out! Next October is my full retirement from all the semi-retirement jobs if not sooner. That elephant sure has a tough hide, butt (LOL) I'm chewing a little each day! Hope you and the Mrs have a wonderful and safe New Years.
Tom
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
Greg,
Why yes, funny you should mention that. I found a couple of them but sold them to Jaime for $16.00 each!
Tom
Quote from: gnatshop on December 28, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
They went in the Ledbetter Charity waste basket that's headed to Arkansaw! ;D ;D ;D
The Ledbetters sure are making out on deals lately!
Tom
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 29, 2013, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
Greg,
Why yes, funny you should mention that. I found a couple of them but sold them to Jaime for $16.00 each!
Tom
Hmmmmmm...okay, put your fee aside and hold the balance for me 'til the next time I'm down.
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 29, 2013, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 29, 2013, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 28, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Hey Tom:
Have you found any of those old FSM and SRMW kits I left under the layout a couple of years age? ;D
Greg,
Why yes, funny you should mention that. I found a couple of them but sold them to Jaime for $16.00 each!
Tom
Hmmmmmm...okay, put your fee aside and hold the balance for me 'til the next time I'm down.
HMMM, Is that something like "the check is in the mail"?
Tom
Right... ;)
Tom
Great thread! I feel your pain as my nephew would say! I went through this process 5 years ago when I decided to go in a different direction with my layout. Reading through your thread prompted me to get out the pictures of the old layout. I will be following along, thanks for sharing.
Quote from: S&S RR on February 18, 2014, 08:30:22 AM
Tom
Great thread! I feel your pain as my nephew would say! I went through this process 5 years ago when I decided to go in a different direction with my layout. Reading through your thread prompted me to get out the pictures of the old layout. I will be following along, thanks for sharing.
John, Thanks for stopping by. I didn't follow this thread as I should have. I'm finished with all the 1:1 modeling for the present so now I can get on with the layout redo! I have about 150+ more photos of the layout removal to upload and share. More to follow this weekedend. Tom ;D
Well, it's been two+ months since I added anything to the thread. I haven't been idle on removing the layout but my time was spent remodeling the interior of the house. 1:1 modeling is over for now so here I be, back where I belong.
Let's see, I was at the point of removing the area just north of the large yard. I even found a few treasures mentioned earlier in the thread under the layout. That part of the old benchwork was removed as shown in the first photo below.
I then moved to the large upper yard. First, I had to remove all the cars. Once the cars were removed, I began removing the track work.
Continued in a few minutes.
You can see in the above photo that I still had some revenue items still working the yard as the demolition was moving forward. How do you like my Rube Goldberg wiring? I pormise it didn't look like this when the layout was operational.
Yea, right!
Now a large portion of the large yard is removed, last photo shown below.
Continued in few.
I'll let the next several photos speak for themselves as the demolition continues.
More demolition photos.
More demolition photos.
No small Job Tom, there's a lot there to be taken out.
8)
Wow Tom - Can't wait to see what you have planned to replace it.
Good Morning Tom,
I really enjoy seeing the teardown of the layout, but at the same time a little sad because I know how much time and effort you have put into the current layout. My first question is where are yu putting all the train stuff, because I know you have a lot of it! Looking forward to the new build. Looking good my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: ak-milw on March 15, 2014, 08:22:37 PM
No small Job Tom, there's a lot there to be taken out.
8)
Andy,
Thanks for stopping by. Yes, there is and was a lot of material and supplies to be removed. I find myself moving stuff from one side of the room to the other. I need another room just to store the good stuff I'll be reusing.
It seems I have my very own lumber yard in the train room. I'll post more later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on March 15, 2014, 08:30:53 PM
Wow Tom - Can't wait to see what you have planned to replace it.
John,
Stay tuned and check back now and then. More later today!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on March 16, 2014, 10:48:20 AM
Good Morning Tom,
I really enjoy seeing the teardown of the layout, but at the same time a little sad because I know how much time and effort you have put into the current layout. My first question is where are yu putting all the train stuff, because I know you have a lot of it! Looking forward to the new build. Looking good my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thanks for stopping by and checking in. This has been a labor of love and hate. I love removing it all for the new one but hate removing it for all the labor I've invested. Alas, poor Tom, I knew him well! Ha, it's time to move forward on a better layout.
Yes, I have a ton of stuff and need to thin out. Maybe one day but the good stuff is just moved from one spot to the other.
Tom ;D
I reached the corner of the "L" on the layout room and found two more treasures under the layout. These have been under the layout and in the corner for probably the past 18 years. But first the corner area with the layout bed removed.
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Tom........
Sometimes you just have to make a mess before it can get better.
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on March 16, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Tom........
Sometimes you just have to make a mess before it can get better.
see ya
Bob
Bob,
Yes, you are certainly correct! I spend as much time cleaning up the mess as I do making it!
Tom ;D
When I got the the "L" corner of the layout I found two more treasures. These have been under the layout for the past 18+ years. The first photo is of the corner, well sort of anyway!
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One of the items I found was an old "O" model of the Indiana Harbor Belt 0-8-0. I think it was either Revel, Monogram or AHM I just can't remember.
[attach=2]
The other treasure was given to me by my father in law. It is his old hand made tool chest. It is solid oak.
[attach=3]
Continued in a few.
My father in law was a naval machinist in WWII. When his service was over he got hired with a local machine shop in Baltimore. He was on probation when he and another man built this tool box. Also, he had to buy all his own tools for the shop. He got a good start on the tools and then the Baltimore Police Department hired him as a veteran of WWII.
I'll let the next several pictures speak for them selves. You can see his name, K. Johnson, etched on some of the tools. He passed away about 15 years ago and I miss him as we had much in common. He knew I liked old tools and such so he gave me this box.
Continued in a few.
The last picture will show you how much of the layout has been removed to this point in the thread.
Keep in mind this demolition was done over the past two months but I'm just now getting the images uploaded. Here are three pictures of the part of the corner removed and the next part of the layout to be removed.
[attach=1]
[attach=2]
[attach=3]
Thanks for following along.
Tom ;D
Tom
Great tool box. I have my Dad's tools and us them every day on the layout. They just seem to work better than the one's I bought.
Goodness, it looks like an explosion went off in the man cave!
Isn't it amazing what you come across when you unearth places you haven't been in years.
I recall those 3-cylinder 0-8-0s; IIRC Rivarossi introduced them in the early 1970s in both O and HO, built in what was then Yugoslavia. They were of special interest in New England because they could be re-detailed for New Haven.
Quote from: S&S RR on March 16, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
Tom
Great tool box. I have my Dad's tools and us them every day on the layout. They just seem to work better than the one's I bought.
John, The old tools are certainly better than the junk made today! I have a wood handle hammer that is 60+ years old and it hammers just fine! Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 16, 2014, 09:55:21 PM
Goodness, it looks like an explosion went off in the man cave!
Isn't it amazing what you come across when you unearth places you haven't been in years.
Greg, More like several explosions; however, I didn't fine and gold or silver! Oh wait, I did fine about 75 bottles of Floquil and theya re as good as gold and cost almost as much! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
OK Tom.......
You made me laugh with that one.... I absolutely agree with you on quality of tools and such of years gone by but...
You commented on an old hammer............. what's to wear out on a hammer ? ! ? ! ? ! ? But with abuse they can...
But after that you're right........... I hang on to most any old tool that I have.
see ya
Bob
Quote from: jbvb on March 17, 2014, 08:20:06 AM
I recall those 3-cylinder 0-8-0s; IIRC Rivarossi introduced them in the early 1970s in both O and HO, built in what was then Yugoslavia. They were of special interest in New England because they could be re-detailed for New Haven.
James,
I do remember now it was Rivarossi! Thanks for the information and for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2014, 05:35:11 PM
OK Tom.......
You made me laugh with that one.... I absolutely agree with you on quality of tools and such of years gone by but...
You commented on an old hammer............. what's to wear out on a hammer ? ! ? ! ? ! ? But with abuse they can...
But after that you're right........... I hang on to most any old tool that I have.
see ya
Bob
Bob,
I have antique saws that still cut a fine line and a few very old planes that work like new. Ref. the hammer, I have seen wood hammers that split/splinter or crack at the neck. Remember all the old tools hade wood handles, but like you said, if abused they, well the crack and break!
They don't even make wood like they used to either. That should make you laugh as well.
Thanks for following along Bob, I appreciate it!
Tom ;D
Making wood like they used to....... Absolutely correct. Force fed trees don't make the same as old growth stuff.
My first job was in a piano restoration house in Chicago in 1962. I was a sophomore in high school. Damn I'm old...
The guy who ran the place had this standard thing that he would tell someone when they complained of this figure of grain or that.......... " I'm really sorry but I didn't stand out in the forest and tell the trees how to grow."
Solved a lot of consumer complaints.......
see ya
Bob
Test
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Finally, I got this big photo thingie to work! Now, I need to practice on getting the correct size!
Thanks very much Jimmy! You are Da'Man!
Tom ;D
Good Bye Old Forum! All my builds will be posted here!
Tom ;D
OK Tom...
We're up to a solid two not looking back...
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
OK Tom...
We're up to a solid two not looking back...
see ya
Bob
Hey Bob, make that three.....!
Hey, Li'l Tommy buddy - wish I had known how to do pitures earlier- I would have posted
a big piture of your AS while it was here!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh, crap! I hope that doesn't get me another smite here - I'm treadin' water as it is!!! ;D ;D ;D
Any body out there want to challenge me on the smite score? ??? ??? ??? ???
But what would this forum be without somebody to pick on?? 8) 8) 8)
Dave ...
You're on your own with the smite score........ I got enough purgatory stuff to work off without throwing gas on that fire..
see ya
Bob
Quote from: gnatshop on March 18, 2014, 12:39:45 AM
Oh, crap! I hope that doesn't get me another smite here - I'm treadin' water as it is!!! ;D ;D ;D
Any body out there want to challenge me on the smite score? ??? ??? ??? ???
But what would this forum be without somebody to pick on?? 8) 8) 8)
Hey David, everyone needs to be outstanding at something, maybe you found your niche!
Keep up the good work..... ;D 8) :o
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
OK Tom...
We're up to a solid two not looking back...
see ya
Bob
Bob,
I'm basically gone but need to monitor my AS on the Traveling Freight Car! Otherwise --------AMF, adios my friend!
Tom ;D
Quote from: gnatshop on March 18, 2014, 12:26:50 AM
Hey, Li'l Tommy buddy - wish I had known how to do pitures earlier- I would have posted
a big piture of your AS while it was here!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Gman,
My AS is big enough, you don't need to show everyone just how big!
I miss those other funnies---- laughing hard goes here!
Tom ;D
One final picture test!
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This is as small as I can get!
I bet you are further along by now.
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 16, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
Tom
Great tool box. I have my Dad's tools and us them every day on the layout. They just seem to work better than the one's I bought.
John,
The old tools are certainly better than the junk made today! I have a wood handle hammer that is 60+ years old and it hammers just fine!
Tom ;D
I inherited an axe my grandfather owned from my Dad before he died. The handle's been changed once in it's lifetime and the heads been replaced, but it's still my grandfathers axe.
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on March 19, 2014, 06:55:15 AM
I bet you are further along by now.
Bill, First, let me be the first to welcome you to the forum! This color is as close as I can get to Pennsy Tuscan! Thanks for stopping by and posting a comment, I appreciate it! Yes, I am much further along and I'll be posting a few more demo photos later this evening. Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on March 19, 2014, 07:13:50 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 16, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
Tom
Great tool box. I have my Dad's tools and us them every day on the layout. They just seem to work better than the one's I bought.
John,
The old tools are certainly better than the junk made today! I have a wood handle hammer that is 60+ years old and it hammers just fine!
Tom ;D
I inherited an axe my grandfather owned from my Dad before he died. The handle's been changed once in it's lifetime and the heads been replaced, but it's still my grandfathers axe.
Yes, no matter the repair, it is still grand dad's axe!
Tom ;D
In the next set of photos, you can see I've made more progress in the removal of the old layout.
Again, note that this was done two months ago and I'm just now getting caught up on the thread.
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Continued in a few.
And a few more!
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More in a few.
More still-
Yes, I'm screwing myself - no pun intended! Re-cycling saves $$$$$!
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Continued in a few.
And the final ones for this evening. Thanks for following along.
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Tom ;D
Now I'm getting into the areas I really hated to remve. I keep my eye on the new prize which will be a new, improved Atalntic and Southern. The photos from here on will be of the areas of the layout I spent the most time on doing. Of course this includes the Mitchrooney Curve, High Trestle, Three Pine Junction, Helper Service Set Out, Highway Overpass, Coaling, Diesel Repair, Turntable and Roundhouse.
But first is the Mitchrooney Curve removal.
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More in a few, I have to wipe my eyes! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Three more of MC area.
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More in a few.
The final two photos for the MC removal.
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More in a few minutes.
Moving of to the High Trestle section with a couple of photos of Three Pine Junction.
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More in a few.
The removal! The stone section you see in the next few photos was build one stone at a time.
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Yes, more to follow.
Retaining wall removed.
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Four more for today!
The last of the High Trestle and Three Pine Junction. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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That's all for today!
I really feel for you Tom , some tears must have been shed.
Jan,
Thanks for checking in, much appreciated. Yes, but this boy ain't looking back! It was sure fun while it lasted.
Just trying to stay focused on the new layout. I certainly learned alot from the building of this old one.
Tom ;D
Tom........
Can it go back together and run as fast as it came apart ? ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on March 20, 2014, 07:04:06 PM
Tom........
Can it go back together and run as fast as it came apart ? ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
Bob,
I don't ever plan on even trying to get it back together. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Tom ;D
Tom
This is getting hard to watch - you need to get started on that new layout so we can look back at this and say now I know why he did it.
Quote from: S&S RR on March 20, 2014, 10:02:34 PM
Tom
This is getting hard to watch - you need to get started on that new layout so we can look back at this and say now I know why he did it.
John,
Just be thankful you are the one viewing the demo, no matter how hard! LOL! Where's my laughing my a-- off guy? Thanks again for following along.
I'll add a few more in a few.
Tom ;D
Two weeks ago I removed the Three Pine Junction Section including the upper and lower tunnel portals. I scratch built them from sheet styrene. Upon removal I gave them to SBG, Greg DeMayo! Hopefully these will live on! If not, they did serve their purpose for ten years.
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Continued in a few.
More of the removal.
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Hopefully more tomorrow. Thanks for foillowing along.
Tom ;D
Now I'm starting to get tears , I agree with John , at least show us some example or a plan of what you are going for.
Quote from: Janbouli on March 21, 2014, 06:33:18 PM
Now I'm starting to get tears , I agree with John , at least show us some example or a plan of what you are going for.
Jan,
No need to cry here, I've done enough of it for all of us! I did start another there on the new build but haven't done much on it! I do have some photos I'll get loaded later today or tomorrow. Anyway, here is the link. It's under Layout Tours with the heading of Atlantic and Southern Build.
http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.0 (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.0)
Tom ;D
Jan and others,
I just realized the photos were posted on the other forum so I'll move it all over here and basically start over. It may be a repeat for some and new for others. However; it seems to get me motivated when I read over the other forum.
I'll get it started this evening. Thanks Jan for getting me moving on this.
Tom ;D
I'm starting to feel like Mr. Bilbo Baggins, I'm off on another adventure. Here is the latest update on the layout demolition. No comments necessary for these pictures.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
Today I spent several hours removing the last portion of the old layout! This is the roundhouse turn table area.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
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Continued in a few.
This afternoon I was under the layout removing a few Tortoise machines and I heard this flapping sound and wondered, "What the He--"! I looked up and out from under the layout and didn't see anything so I went back to the task at hand.
About twenty minutes later I heard this humming/chirping noise. I looked around and this is what I found in my light valance.
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I tried to guide the Morning Dove, she came in the afternoon, to the door with a broom and she kept banging into the wall so I left her in the valance. After a few hours she flew out.
Someone asked me abut the stained glass that was seen in one of the earlier photos. Here is the story on the stained glass. Back in the early 80's the City of Orlando was in the process of condeming property so the Orlando Magic could build their arena. There was an old Four Square Church to be demo'd and the Orlando Fire Dept. was going to do a training burn on the church. I did a walk through to make sure no "homeless folks" were in the church and I found this window/stained glass in the basement. Obviously I hauled it out. The church was built in 1910. I'm not sure when the stained glass was installed in the church but I'm assuming it was when it was built. All the other windows were removed prior to the burn. Anyway, here is the original 100 year old window as I found it! The window measures 35"W X 45"H.
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Thankfully, the demolition is now complete. I'm finally out of my misery and can now focus on the new layout. I'll respond and answer any comments or questions.
Thank you all who followed this thread and for posting your thoughts and comments.
Tom ;D
Just WOW!
Alright...now the fun starts!
John
WOW! Time for a brand new build. Have you posted the plans anywhere? Are you going to continue here or start a new build thread?
Yeah Tom, seen any plans lately ??? ;D
Apologies to Li'l Bobby P. for my comment earlier on your brass body parts, but after looking
at Uncle Tommy's demolition - the winner of the biggest brass ones goes to that Langford boy!
Should know - here's his favorite secondary job:
Congratulations on reaching a milestone on your project. It has been a lot of work and tears taking the layout apart, but now the fun begins. Are you going to share your ideas on the new build? Are you going to make scale models? Inquiring minds want to know. By the way, It was me that mentioned the stain glass window. Really looking forward to the new build thread. First you have to paint the walls and put down the new carpet? You are like the energizer bunny. Looking forward to the start. If you need to discuss any ideas, you have my number. And we can always SKYPE!!! Enjoy the weekend.
Frank / Erieman
:'(
However I am certainly looking forward to the construction of the new layout. :D
I'm ready to see some construction.
see ya
Bob
I hope the bird didn't leave anything behind. ;D Looking forward to the new construction.
Jeff
Quote from: Cuse on March 27, 2014, 07:43:56 PM
Just WOW!
Alright...now the fun starts!
John
John,
Thanks for stopping by! I have a few items of prepping to get ready for the new layout. I hope to start the bench work with in the next month.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on March 27, 2014, 08:35:34 PM
WOW! Time for a brand new build. Have you posted the plans anywhere? Are you going to continue here or start a new build thread?
John,
Yes, finally it's time and yes a few planning ideas have been posted on this forum.
http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.0 (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?topic=53.0)
I'll be adding actual concept drawings this weekend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 27, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
Yeah Tom, seen any plans lately ??? ;D
Gregory,
As a matter of fact I've seen plenty from my friend Frank Baker, Erieman, and of course something from you. I'll be posting them this weekend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: gnatshop on March 27, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
Apologies to Li'l Bobby P. for my comment earlier on your brass body parts, but after looking
at Uncle Tommy's demolition - the winner of the biggest brass ones goes to that Langford boy!
Should know - here's his favorite secondary job:
Gman,
Thanks for the support and for giving me more credit than I deserve. One has to be pretty crazy to attempt this project. Yes, I am CRAZY and love it! What a way to go! Tis always good to see you my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on March 28, 2014, 12:05:59 AM
Congratulations on reaching a milestone on your project. It has been a lot of work and tears taking the layout apart, but now the fun begins. Are you going to share your ideas on the new build? Are you going to make scale models? Inquiring minds want to know. By the way, It was me that mentioned the stain glass window. Really looking forward to the new build thread. First you have to paint the walls and put down the new carpet? You are like the energizer bunny. Looking forward to the start. If you need to discuss any ideas, you have my number. And we can always SKYPE!!! Enjoy the weekend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I remember now it was you that mentioned the stained glass. I'll be sharing my ideas and yours in a coming thread. Hopefully I'll get something posted this weekend.
I just couldn't leave the walls the way they were from the old layout and the green carpet needed to be replaced as well. Besides a new layout needs, no it begs/screams for a new room to boot!
Speaking of a boot, I need to boot myself in the A-- and get my Skype up and running. I have the camera - it's just taking the time to do it!
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 28, 2014, 07:30:24 AM
:'(
However I am certainly looking forward to the construction of the new layout. :D
Bob,
I'm looking forward to it as well. My Babe asked me again, "You aren't going to be changing this one several times are you"? "Of course not honey, I'm getting the track plan together and it won't change"! Fingers crossed here. Mt Babe just looked at me. I haven't seen that look before.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on March 28, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
I'm ready to see some construction.
see ya
Bob
Bob,
Me too!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 28, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
I hope the bird didn't leave anything behind. ;D Looking forward to the new construction.
Jeff
Dr. Jeff,
I did check my lights and didn't get any gifts from the bird. Construction to start within the month!
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 28, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
.....Construction to start within the month!
Tom ;D
Which month? Todays the 30th, you better hurry if it's this month! ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 30, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 28, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
.....Construction to start within the month!
Tom ;D
Which month? Todays the 30th, you better hurry if it's this month! ;D
Careful big boy! I may have meant "within the month of December 2014"!
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 30, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 30, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 28, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
.....Construction to start within the month!
Tom ;D
Which month? Todays the 30th, you better hurry if it's this month! ;D
Careful big boy! I may have meant "within the month of December 2014"!
Tom ;D
Now I'm really confused.................I have coopons!!!
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 30, 2014, 10:23:12 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 30, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 30, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 28, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
.....Construction to start within the month!
Tom ;D
Which month? Todays the 30th, you better hurry if it's this month! ;D
Careful big boy! I may have meant "within the month of December 2014"!
Tom ;D
Now I'm really confused.................I have coopons!!!
Coopons? Okay, we are good then! Tom ;D
Right....................