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Title: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 10:36:10 PM
Thought I would share my build of of Fos Scale Models Bandit's Roost.

While not a complete start to finish.  I did break the box on 11/30/2020.  I planned to follow the building order of the instructions, but soon discovered I was missing the side walls to Vallon Paint.  So, I moved on to the Harrison and Rochelle portion of the kit. I decided to post this build since I encountered some issues that might help others when making the kit.  As per usual, Fos Scale instructions are rather sparse so I'll try to include the 'missing' areas and errors I find within the instructions.  I'll also try to include the paints, techniques, and misc. info that helped me along.  All pictures provided come from my iPhone.

I didn't take pictures during the initial stage.  I had already painted the main walls to Harrison and Rochelle, and added the banner sign along the tops of the walls.

I used DecoArt Celery Green DA208 for the main walls adding the paint like I might do when dry brushing over two or three layers of medium India Ink with 91% Isopropyl Alcohol.




Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 10:42:39 PM
I applied the banner signs using thinned matte Mod Podge.  Coating the building surface as well as the paper sign.  I used 220 grit sandpaper to thin the sign before applying.  Then used smooth toothpicks to get the sign into the groves of the wood.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: vinceg on January 05, 2021, 10:46:50 PM
Hey, CK. Looks good so far. The wall color looks great. No way would I have thought that a celery coat would look that muted. Guess the inkahol dulls it down very nicely.

Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 10:49:46 PM
At this point, I had already assembled the walls, and installed the windows.  I decided to avoid window treatments.  I added some weathering powders to the walls in small amounts in various areas to add a little color.  I like the subtle variations to give it some added character.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:03:39 PM
The following is a photo of the rear door.  After priming the door with Rustoleum Cameo.  I applied weathering powders over a base coat of DecoArt Charcoal Grey DA088.  I apply the powders directly over the wet paint.  You to have to work fast, and the effect may be too much the taste of some modelers.  I clear coated with Krylon Matte Finish, then added two thin coats of AK Interactive Heavy Chipping AK 089.  I coated the door with MSP Core Colors Honed Steel 09953 and let it dry.  I then applied some water with a brush, and removed the paint with a stiff brush and a tooth pick.  It was my first time using chipping fluid, and thought it came out okay.

 
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
Here's a photo of the finished door, minus window glazing.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:16:58 PM
Fast forward to the roof.  I purchased 50 sheets of black Tru Ray construction paper from Hobby Lobby for $1.99.  Using the Jason Jensen method, I lightly sprayed Krylon Rust Preventive grey primer 7517 over a sheet of the black construction paper, cut it into strips, then lightly sanded the surface in a circular motion.  Since this is a flat roof, it didn't require sanding in a downward motion, nor distressing the edges as Jason does in his video.  I butted the strips together, then using Formula 560 canopy glue, mixed 50/50 with Decoart Charcoal Grey DA088.  I then added the tar lines.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Rusty Robot on January 05, 2021, 11:21:22 PM
Excellent work. That door is spectacular
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:28:27 PM
This next shot includes the roof caps.  Doug used 10 x 2's for the ridge caps, but I wanted to add 'copper' flashing over the ridge caps.  I used a paper maybe two to three times the thickness of regular paper.  Sorry, I don't know the brand.  I folded the paper over a of piece square styrene, then used a Bronze colored sharpie over the front and back of the paper.  After it dried.  I applied thinned washes of MSP Core Color Copper 09304.  Use thin coats.  You could also use any craft paint similar to Americana Indian Turquoise DA307 for the same effect. I used two or three coats over the ridge caps, and the corner pieces where the slate shingles meet.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Dennis Bourey on January 05, 2021, 11:29:19 PM
That's a really nice looking kit.Dennis
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:32:34 PM
Next up is the boiler house.  This is where I found the back wall section for the boiler house to be too long.  You'll notice in the picture that it extends too far.  I later cut this portion away.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:34:27 PM
These are the boiler house walls and window sections stained with India Ink and alcohol.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:43:22 PM
Boiler house walls were painted white with craft paint, and the windows painted white.  I wanted to represent windows that were metal framed.  I didn't prime the windows, I stippled on the white paint, then added a wash of Winsor and Newton 552 Raw Sienna thinned with odorless Turpenoid.  I used a toothpick to add small amounts of Winsor and Newton Burnt Umber 076, and let it blend together.  I also scored the area that will be cut away from the back boiler window section that was too long.   
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:45:15 PM
Here's another look at the window frames, with the extra portion removed.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:50:10 PM
This is a test fitting of the boiler house to the rear section of the Harrison and Rochelle building.  The steel freight door is installed on the main building, along with the small tarpaper add on to the right.  I used the same Jason Jenson method for the roof on the extension from the main building.  I used a red primer, but didn't weather it drastically.  I kept it low key.  I don't have any in process shots during that portion.  I wasn't sure I would list this build in the first place.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 05, 2021, 11:52:33 PM
That's all for today.  I realized it's getting late.  Gotta work tomorrow.  Hope you're enjoying my journey. 

Thanks for the replies so far.

Mark
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on January 06, 2021, 01:20:57 AM
Mark,
 See you spent a few hours on this FOS kit. Nice start !
Will look forward to more updates. Your profile said Batavia, Illinois...we lived in McHenry between 20 and 30 years back.
 Tommy
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: GPdemayo on January 06, 2021, 08:37:44 AM
Looking forward to seeing you work thru the kit problems.  ;)
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 06, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
Beautiful modeling and how to instructions for the paint. I love the back door.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on January 06, 2021, 04:47:24 PM
Beautiful work and a very nice (and fast) start on this magnificent kit.  I did a build thread on it last year and it remains my favorite kit overall.  You are certainly doing it justice.  I also noticed the oversized boiler house wall and had to cut it down to size.

--Opa George
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ReadingBob on January 06, 2021, 05:29:30 PM
Very nice indeed.  I just started playing around with that Heavy Chipping Fluid myself.  Interesting stuff. You did a great job with it.   :)
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:17:14 PM
Mark,
 See you spent a few hours on this FOS kit. Nice start !
Will look forward to more updates. Your profile said Batavia, Illinois...we lived in McHenry between 20 and 30 years back.
 Tommy

Yep, but I'm planning my escape from Illinois.  Lived here my whole life, but the taxes are killing me.  It's crazy.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:18:50 PM
Beautiful modeling and how to instructions for the paint. I love the back door.

Thanks, I'm new to the chipping fluid.  Always interested in new methods, so many options left for me to discover.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:20:04 PM
Beautiful work and a very nice (and fast) start on this magnificent kit.  I did a build thread on it last year and it remains my favorite kit overall.  You are certainly doing it justice.  I also noticed the oversized boiler house wall and had to cut it down to size.

--Opa George

Thanks, this kit is my winter project.  One of many actually, but this is the biggest dog for the season.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:21:30 PM
Very nice indeed.  I just started playing around with that Heavy Chipping Fluid myself.  Interesting stuff. You did a great job with it.   :)

Thanks.  I've had the chipping fluid sitting around for some time, and finally put it to use.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
Here's a shot of the Harrison and Rochelle sign.  I used the Decoart Charcoal Grey as a base, and applied weathering powders to the back of the sign while the paint was still wet.  I did 3 or 4 letters at a time.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:30:19 PM
I sealed the back with clear flat, then placed the sign upon some blue painters tape.  I applied a finish of white paint to the front of the sign, and weathered with the Winsor and Newton oils mentioned previously.  Since Doug didn't provide a template for applying the sign without the little tabs being attached.  I removed the sign from the tape, secured the tape, removed the letters, and used the tape as my template to apply each letter individually.  I touched up the paint as needed.   
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:47:30 PM
Here is the building as it stands.  I obviously left out some steps in-between.  I extended the shingles towards the very front of the building, and used 2 x 6's to trim around the base of the tower.  Two things that Doug did not do.  I felt this was a more believable method of construction.  I would use caution when using the delicate lattice pieces that make up the tower.  I would prime both sides, and ensure every bit is secured with canopy glue, super glue or similar, since water based paint could potentially warp them.

This happened to me, as some of the pieces warped when I applied my thinned aged 'copper' washes.  They mostly returned to shape.  I utilized the same bronze sharpie, and wash method I used for the copper ridge caps.  My thin washes warped the pieces since I failed to secure them entirely.  Lesson learned.

I used some brass wire to help secure the stack on top of the boiler house.  It stands roughly 13 scale feet.  I included some small pads where the wires connected to the roof.  Not completely finished with weathering, but close.  I also attached the sign, chimney, some brass 'vents', and the walkup made up of mixed color 2 x 10's.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 09:49:34 PM
This is the 'business' end of the structure.  No signage yet.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: NEMMRRC on January 06, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
Groovy.


Thats a huge complex. You must have a large layout for it.


Jaime
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 10:00:17 PM
Here's a shot of the other side with the large rooftop sign and tarpaper shed installed.  For the corrugated roof, I use Campbell's.  I prefer it over the paper ones provided with the kit.  Both have their advantages, but I feel the Campbell's is more to scale.  I prime them with grey auto primer on both sides.  Then use a thin wash of black craft paint.  I'll also do the edges on the underside where appropriate.  I apply the afore mentioned Charcoal Grey craft paint, and apply the weathering powders directly over the paint.  I try to use the darker colors towards the bottom, and the lighter fresh rust towards the top.  It makes for a fairly quick and easy application.  Once it's dry, I'll apply some pan pastels where necessary.  I use a light tan or white on some of the panels to better highlight the rust colors.  I sometimes drybrush a light grey upon the panels before using the pan pastels.  Like anything in this hobby, there are a hundreds of methods to do any project.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 06, 2021, 10:02:24 PM
Groovy.


Thats a huge complex. You must have a large layout for it.


Jaime

No layout yet.  That happens after the move.  I'm building dioramas, and per the Bob Van Gelder method of South River Model Works, will build the layout around them when that time comes.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: postalkarl on January 07, 2021, 02:35:55 AM
Hey:

That kit is coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 07, 2021, 06:57:12 AM
Great looking build.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ACL1504 on January 07, 2021, 09:28:21 AM
Beautiful build all the way. I really like the rear door with the rust. Great job.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: madharry on January 07, 2021, 10:40:02 AM
Really nice job on the building. I have this kit to build sometime so thanks for pointing out the wrinkles.
Mike :)
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 12, 2021, 10:06:27 PM
Great looking build.
Beautiful build all the way. I really like the rear door with the rust. Great job.

Tom  ;D
Really nice job on the building. I have this kit to build sometime so thanks for pointing out the wrinkles.
Mike :)
Hey:

That kit is coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work.

Karl

Thanks to everyone.  Up next is the annex to the Harrison and Rochelle.  As before, I don't have many in-process photos.  I started this before I decided to post the build.

Here is a shot of the Campbell's corrugated roofing.  After cutting them to size, I primed them with grey Rustoleum.  Then gave them a wash of thinned black craft paint.  Next, once dry, I applied thinned Charcoal Grey craft paint, and applied the various rust colored pigments directly over the paint.  It's a fairly quick process.  These are brand new Campbell's corrugated, and when I tried to use Radio Shacks Ferric Chloride on some of them, it ate them up so fast I couldn't save them.  The ones that I managed to pull out in time were transparent.  It just ate them alive.  I didn't have problems in the past with this method, so maybe somethings changed on Campbell's end.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 12, 2021, 10:20:51 PM
Here is the annex with the roof panels added, along with an used vent from a South River Model Works kit.  This is the final structure outlined in the directions for this kit.  The only issues I had were the building of the second and third floors.  It's not mentioned in the directions to leave yourself the ability to include the corner posts open on the second and third floors.  I built each section separately, and if you look closely, you'll notice the corner posts end at each floor level on the clapboard end.  I built all three sections on their own, and stacked them. 

I recommend building the second and third floor, combining them, then adding your roofing and vents etc.  Then adding the first floor support posts, and adding the small staircase access, the first floor last.  I didn't use the cut out template provided with the kit when making up the supports.  If you do use the cut out template, your cutting of the posts and supports must be spot on.  I recommend using the printed template included on instruction sheet B.  It allows you some leeway if you're post cutting isn't perfect.     
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 12, 2021, 10:32:10 PM
For the second floor I used Americana Indian Turquoise DA087 applied with a sponge over two or three coats of India Ink and alcohol.  Next, I added some white craft paint to the Turquoise to bring it down a shade or two, then sponged on this 'custom' color sparingly.  On the second floor, with the clapboard siding, I applied AK Interactive Heavy Chipping fluid over the India Ink stained wood in two thin coats.  Brush applied some white, let it dry, then applied a thin coat of water, and used a toothpick to remove the paint for chipping.  I used AK Interactive Streaking Grime AK012 and Moss Deposits AK676 over selected areas on the structure, moving them about with odorless Turpenoid, along with adding some weathering powders.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 12, 2021, 10:40:30 PM
Next up is Curtis Gas.  I could use some help/advice on the stucco.  I've used Liquitex Modeling Paste in the past, and I've heard of a Rustoleum spray product that replicates stucco.  Included with the kit is a bag of water putty.  Never used it before, so any experience/advice would be appreciated.  Here's another shot of the annex.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ReadingBob on January 13, 2021, 06:50:10 AM
Next up is Curtis Gas.  I could use some help/advice on the stucco.  I've used Liquitex Modeling Paste in the past, and I've heard of a Rustoleum spray product that replicates stucco.  Included with the kit is a bag of water putty.  Never used it before, so any experience/advice would be appreciated.  Here's another shot of the annex.

That looks absolutely wonderful!  I have a few things I want to try now based on your results.   ;)

Regarding using the water putty for the stucco.  I like it but I apply it a little differently than what the instructions typically call for.  The instructions call for mixing the powder with water until you get a peanut butter like consistency and then dabbing it on with a stiff, short bristled brush.  First off the powder is Durham's Rock Hard Water Putty.  I bought a can of it 20+ years ago for $2 or $3 dollars and still have more than half a can left.  Instead of mixing it with water I use a cheap craft store acrylic paint that will be my finish color and dispense a blob of that onto a palette of some sort.  Then I take my brush, dip it in the paint and then dip it in the powder.  I mix the two together on the palette adding more paint or more putty until I get a thinner consistency than called for in the instructions.  I mix just enough to start working on the wall.  I mix more as I go.  I try to get a tooth paste like consistency or maybe a bit thinner.  Then I start dabbing it on the wall.  I prefer a thin coat vs. a heavy thick coat.  Really I'm just turning the paint into a textured paint with this method.  If you pick up a can of the water putty you'll have more than enough to practice on a piece of scrap wood, cardboard, etc. until you get a feel for it.  Hope this helps.

I found this picture from a previous build thread I did that may give a little feel for what I'm trying to describe above.  ;)
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-251219120235-42219317.jpeg) 
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on January 13, 2021, 08:26:48 PM
Thanks Bob.  I'll give that a try.  I'm keeping track of your Moscone Bail Bonds build.  Very interested to see how that comes out.  I have the Durham's Rock Hard Putty from a SRMW build from over six years ago.  It was my first large craftsman kit build.  Delabarre Woolens.

I'm planning on priming the inside walls, assembling the building completely, laying in the window sills, then fixing all the gaps with putty or lightweight spackling.  Priming that, then hitting it with the stucco mix.  I'll try it out tonight on some scrap material.

Thanks again, for your suggestion.  Mark   
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on January 15, 2021, 12:39:03 PM
Mark, I definitely recommend a bit of practice with the water putty before going on to your main event.  I struggle with it even after several builds.  But that's not to say don't use it.  Bob gets great results with his method.

--Opa George
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 13, 2021, 09:24:56 PM
Mark, I definitely recommend a bit of practice with the water putty before going on to your main event.  I struggle with it even after several builds.  But that's not to say don't use it.  Bob gets great results with his method.

--Opa George

Thanks, I was waiting for Reading Bob's Bail Bonds update, but ended up doing it myself.  Found Reading Bob's method to work very well.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 13, 2021, 09:51:00 PM
If you've been following this build, I'm sorry for the lack of updates, but my phone was giving me photo problems, and I'm still unable to post in-process pictures of the Curtis gas station, and Erickson Livery builds.  The gas station build is pretty straight forward, but the directions fail to mention the foundation.  I used Reading Bob's method of applying the stucco finish, and thought the results were very close to prototypical.  Thanks to Bob for your reply, I'll use this stucco method again.  I used lightweight spackle to fill the gaps.  Then applied the the stucco finish. 

I installed my light block, then placed the roof onto the structure before applying the stucco, since I wanted the stucco on the overhang.  Of course, that left me vulnerable to applying the windows from the 'outside', which could be a bit of a challenge.  Thankfully, the thin stucco, and the size of the windows allowed me to apply the windows with little difficulty from the outside.

Doug placed the Curtis sign horizontal, but I installed it rising upwards towards the right.  I like that look a little better.  I used a B.E.S.T chimney, and some brass pipe for vents on the roof.  A fun little build that took more evenings to finish than I anticipated. 

If there is one thing I would've done differently, it was add some seams to the large DX Fast Service sign.

I intend to add a roof access near the rear of the Curtis structure.  Haven't found the right fit.

Here are some fresh pictures I was able to upload today.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 13, 2021, 09:52:37 PM
Here is a shot from another angle.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 13, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
Up next is Erickson Livery.  Another simple structure that took longer than expected, since I upgraded the overhang to Campbell's corrugated rather than the canvas roof called for in the directions.  I like the idea of the canvas roof, but not for this application.  I made the extension larger than called out, and added a small porch in back.  I also painted the right hand side wall, just in case I decide to keep it apart from the machine shop and apartments portion of the kit.  I've left all the other signage for now, may add some later.  I may add further weathering as well.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 13, 2021, 10:03:05 PM
This is a view from the rear.  I may add some railings, but am thinking that this little porch may receive some drop-offs from delivery trucks and such, and may be better off if left 'open'.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: postalkarl on February 13, 2021, 11:16:50 PM
Hey Craftsmankits:

Looking just great so far. Great job on the stucco.

Karl
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 14, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Great little build.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on February 14, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
Mark,
Outstanding results on the gas station and the livery--well done.  I had a bit of trouble with the stucco when I built the gas station and my result was a bit heavy-handed. Yours looks fantastic.  Bandits Roost is still one of my favorite builds for overall enjoyment of construction, and it just drips with character.  I like your modifications.  This kit really invites creativity.

Enjoying following.
--Opa George
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 05:19:41 PM
Mark,

Fantastic job on the gas and livery buildings. They look perfect.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 14, 2021, 08:33:55 PM
Mark,
Outstanding results on the gas station and the livery--well done.  I had a bit of trouble with the stucco when I built the gas station and my result was a bit heavy-handed. Yours looks fantastic.  Bandits Roost is still one of my favorite builds for overall enjoyment of construction, and it just drips with character.  I like your modifications.  This kit really invites creativity.

Enjoying following.
--Opa George
Hey Craftsmankits:

Looking just great so far. Great job on the stucco.

Karl
Mark,

Fantastic job on the gas and livery buildings. They look perfect.

Tom  ;D
Hey Craftsmankits:

Looking just great so far. Great job on the stucco.

Karl

Thanks guys.  I'm enjoying this build.  I'm still missing two walls to Vallon Paint, having a tough time getting Fos Scale to ship the missing walls.  I purchased the kit direct from them, and understand they are busy, but not one return email.  I'm thinking my emails ended up in their spam folder or something.  Will try them again.  I'm working on some wall colors for the machine shop and apartments.  Hoping my phone behaves so I can do more in progress updates.

Mark
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 04:14:53 AM
Mark,
Stunning work. Thanks for all the tips I will use them when I come to build mine.Mike :)
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on February 15, 2021, 08:07:03 AM
Thanks guys.  I'm enjoying this build.  I'm still missing two walls to Vallon Paint, having a tough time getting Fos Scale to ship the missing walls.  I purchased the kit direct from them, and understand they are busy, but not one return email.  I'm thinking my emails ended up in their spam folder or something.  Will try them again.  I'm working on some wall colors for the machine shop and apartments.  Hoping my phone behaves so I can do more in progress updates.

Mark

Mark, as much as I love Doug's kits, his customer service can be lacking.  I had the same experience with a missing wall on "The Terminal" kit, which I also bought direct from him when it came out.  I finally gave up on emails and just created the wall myself from material on hand--I was lucky that it was a very simple and plain wall (it was the rear wall of the restaurant).  But it bugged me that I could not get a response when I followed his instructions for getting missing parts.

To be fair, I did not place a phone call. I have heard that is the best way to contact him. Perhaps I should have done that, but as a business, he should at least check his email spam folder once in a while.

OK, that is my one and only gripe allowed for the year! ;)
--Opa George
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ReadingBob on February 15, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
Thanks guys.  I'm enjoying this build.  I'm still missing two walls to Vallon Paint, having a tough time getting Fos Scale to ship the missing walls.  I purchased the kit direct from them, and understand they are busy, but not one return email.  I'm thinking my emails ended up in their spam folder or something.  Will try them again.  I'm working on some wall colors for the machine shop and apartments.  Hoping my phone behaves so I can do more in progress updates.

Mark

Mark, as much as I love Doug's kits, his customer service can be lacking.  I had the same experience with a missing wall on "The Terminal" kit, which I also bought direct from him when it came out.  I finally gave up on emails and just created the wall myself from material on hand--I was lucky that it was a very simple and plain wall (it was the rear wall of the restaurant).  But it bugged me that I could not get a response when I followed his instructions for getting missing parts.

To be fair, I did not place a phone call. I have heard that is the best way to contact him. Perhaps I should have done that, but as a business, he should at least check his email spam folder once in a while.

OK, that is my one and only gripe allowed for the year! ;)
--Opa George

When I built the Red Light District I found a wall (with a bunch of other parts embedded in it) was missing from the kit and e-mailed Doug.  I got the missing wall first try.  I seem to recall in the instructions, or perhaps it was on his website, that he noted put something to the effect of MISSING PARTS in the subject line (I forget the exact wording).

My concern with things like this is that I have some larger kits on the shelf and it may (correction - will) be years until I get around to building them.  I don't open them up and inventory them to see if everything that should be there is there.  I suppose I should do that.  It's probably easier to missing parts ASAP rather than years later. 
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: GPdemayo on February 15, 2021, 09:13:04 AM
Great job Mark.....smaller structures with heaps of character.  8)
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on February 15, 2021, 12:14:22 PM
I seem to recall in the instructions, or perhaps it was on his website, that he noted put something to the effect of MISSING PARTS in the subject line (I forget the exact wording).

Yep, did that: emailed with the subject "Missing Parts," twice, second time about two weeks later as a follow up.  That's why I think it went to spam and he missed it. My kit still built up nicely; it turned out to be not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
Thanks guys.  I'm enjoying this build.  I'm still missing two walls to Vallon Paint, having a tough time getting Fos Scale to ship the missing walls.  I purchased the kit direct from them, and understand they are busy, but not one return email.  I'm thinking my emails ended up in their spam folder or something.  Will try them again.  I'm working on some wall colors for the machine shop and apartments.  Hoping my phone behaves so I can do more in progress updates.

Mark

Mark, as much as I love Doug's kits, his customer service can be lacking.  I had the same experience with a missing wall on "The Terminal" kit, which I also bought direct from him when it came out.  I finally gave up on emails and just created the wall myself from material on hand--I was lucky that it was a very simple and plain wall (it was the rear wall of the restaurant).  But it bugged me that I could not get a response when I followed his instructions for getting missing parts.

To be fair, I did not place a phone call. I have heard that is the best way to contact him. Perhaps I should have done that, but as a business, he should at least check his email spam folder once in a while.

OK, that is my one and only gripe allowed for the year! ;)
--Opa George

Thanks Opa George.  I did follow his instructions, but haven't received one return email.  I may be forced to call after all.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 09:33:29 PM
Thanks guys.  I'm enjoying this build.  I'm still missing two walls to Vallon Paint, having a tough time getting Fos Scale to ship the missing walls.  I purchased the kit direct from them, and understand they are busy, but not one return email.  I'm thinking my emails ended up in their spam folder or something.  Will try them again.  I'm working on some wall colors for the machine shop and apartments.  Hoping my phone behaves so I can do more in progress updates.

Mark

Mark, as much as I love Doug's kits, his customer service can be lacking.  I had the same experience with a missing wall on "The Terminal" kit, which I also bought direct from him when it came out.  I finally gave up on emails and just created the wall myself from material on hand--I was lucky that it was a very simple and plain wall (it was the rear wall of the restaurant).  But it bugged me that I could not get a response when I followed his instructions for getting missing parts.

To be fair, I did not place a phone call. I have heard that is the best way to contact him. Perhaps I should have done that, but as a business, he should at least check his email spam folder once in a while.

OK, that is my one and only gripe allowed for the year! ;)
--Opa George

When I built the Red Light District I found a wall (with a bunch of other parts embedded in it) was missing from the kit and e-mailed Doug.  I got the missing wall first try.  I seem to recall in the instructions, or perhaps it was on his website, that he noted put something to the effect of MISSING PARTS in the subject line (I forget the exact wording).

My concern with things like this is that I have some larger kits on the shelf and it may (correction - will) be years until I get around to building them.  I don't open them up and inventory them to see if everything that should be there is there.  I suppose I should do that.  It's probably easier to missing parts ASAP rather than years later.

I'm in that same boat.  Too many kits, and maybe not enough life to finish them all, especially with all the new kits that end up being something I must have.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 09:34:25 PM
Mark,
Stunning work. Thanks for all the tips I will use them when I come to build mine.Mike :)

Thanks Mike, I'd like to think I get better with each successive kit.  I'm sure we all do.

Mark
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 09:36:56 PM
Mark,

Fantastic job on the gas and livery buildings. They look perfect.

Tom  ;D

Thanks Tom, you are the post master.  I've enjoyed watching your progress and updates.  Mark
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 09:51:43 PM
Okay, I jumped ahead a bit.  I find the walls to be the easiest portion of the builds.  Here are the walls for the Machine shop and apartments.  I used a different approach for the steel door to the machine shops.  I primed the door with Rustoleum Cameo, stippled on MSP Master Series Paint Honed Steel over the entire door.  Applied small amounts of DecoArt Charcoal Grey DA088, overthe lower portion of the door, then quickly applied weathering powders with rust tones over the paint.  After this dried, I applied rust tone weathering powders over the entire door in a thin film, then stippled on some white acrylic paint, and I mean, very small amounts in the areas shown, then after it dried, lightly coated the door with weathering powders a final time.  I thought it came out pretty nice.

I applied small amounts of rust colored weathering powder over the nail holes, and if it appears a little harsh in the photos, it's easily fixed by spraying some Dust Off, compressed gas dust remover used for computers.  I find this product, and similar products invaluable if you have second thoughts about over application of weathering powders.  Not much help for removing excess Pan Pastels though.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 10:00:52 PM
Forgot to mention that I used three colors for the green walls.  I stippled on Folkart 458 Sap Green, covered with a drybrush of Folkart 5456 Mossy Meadow, then stippled Folkart 2427 as a final coat.  Followed up with a drybrush of white to bring out the high areas.  Attaching the angled portion required the use of the foundation pieces, but I find the foundation pieces to be a little short.  I probably won't use them, but they do serve a purpose for aligning the walls, and eventually, for cutting the 1/16 x 3/16 wood that fits atop the gable walls.

The angled walls must be sanded along the edges in order for them to fit properly.  This did take some time, but is well within the reach of most modelers.  Also remember to leave any bracing away from the angled portions where it would protrude and interfere with the roof.  It's an easy mistake to make.   

Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 10:08:55 PM
Getting back to the trim boards that lay atop the gables.  In order for them to fit evenly along the tops of the walls, you'll have to cut in some notches.  I've included a picture of one of the boards with the notch.  This only applies to the angled end, and should be performed on both sides.  I should also include that when placing the 'Edward Corner - ROPE' sign to the end angled wall, that I placed the sign even with the bottom of where the trim will be.  It looks 'right' when done this way, at least to me.  I also added the corner trim to the long walls, and not to the angled portion.  I filed and cut the end wall to fit with the already installed long walls.

Also, for ease of construction, I finished the squared portion first, then added the side walls over the foundation as a guide.  I taped the foundation portions to my work surface, and went from there.  I applied the end wall of the angled portion last.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: craftsmankits on February 21, 2021, 10:15:34 PM
I applied the trim boards, using the foundation for the angled portion as a cutting guide for the ends.  Now, on to the roofs.  I'm not completely sure how I want to finish them.  Here's a final shot of the applied trim boards.  I also placed on the Callahan Machining sign.  I weathered that sign along with the Beech-Nut, and Rope sign with pan pastel white, applied with a fan brush.  I may apply some more weathering, but I think this is a good start.  Now, if I can just get Doug to answer my request for those two missing walls, I can move on to Vallon Paint and the burger joint.

Mark
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: postalkarl on February 21, 2021, 11:37:09 PM
Hey Mark:

Looks just beautiful so far. Like the colors and the signs look great.

Karl
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Janbouli on February 22, 2021, 05:30:41 AM
You're doing great Mark , signs and colors are superb.
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: ReadingBob on February 22, 2021, 07:03:38 AM
She's turning out to be quite a beauty.  No doubt about that.  Love it!   :D
Title: Re: Fos Scale Bandit's Roost Build
Post by: Opa George on February 22, 2021, 09:13:37 AM
Mark, beautiful work. Of all the "super" kits, this is my favorite.
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