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Title: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 19, 2021, 12:33:54 AM
For some time I've wanted to try my hand at a large structure scratch-build. To this point I have built several smaller structures and enjoyed doing them. I have done several larger craftsman kits and I now have the confidence to try a larger scratch-built structure. I have long admired the Foscale REA Freight House kit, so I am going to try to build my version of that type of kit. I have copied some pictures of that kit from the web and the forum to use  for my build. As per my usual scratch-build process, I first draw out some scale drawings using doors and windows as a guide for wall size and overall look.

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The basic materials for any scratch-build are wall materials and doors and windows. I buy my wood wall material from Northeastern and the doors and windows from Tichy. The wood clapboard wall material comes in 4 x 24 inch pieces as shown and Tichy has an entire catalog of choices for doors, windows and other structure parts. This material is reasonably priced and both companies ship orders in a very timely fashion.

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Shown are some of the windows I plan on using for this build. Most of these windows come 12 to a pack and they are the same windows that many kit manufacturers use in their kits.

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This is the most common window for my build.

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This is the first wall. It is made up of two pieces of 1/8 clapboard siding and one piece of board and batten siding for the peak area. I placed the windows in their locations and drew an outline of each on the front side of the wall material. Cutting out the window openings requires a sharp Exacto knife with a new #11 blade.

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This is the backside of the first wall. You can see that I used blue painters tape to join the two wall pieces together. I then use my pin vise to drill small holes at the corners of the window openings as shown in the picture. The holes in the corners gives me a starting and ending point for my cuts. I find that this is very helpful.

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Here are the two opposing large walls for the first structure of the complex. When cutting out the second wall to match the first remember to place the material with the outside surface of each wall facing out and the inside surfaces of each wall touching. Don't place one wall on top of the other with both outside surfaces pointing up. If you do this you will not get a true mirror image of each wall. Don't ask how I know this. The vertical wood bracing holds the wall sections together and you can see that I used a wider piece of bracing to attach the peak area to the main wall. This wider material gives me more of a gluing surface to work with. More in a minute.



Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 19, 2021, 01:01:25 AM
Continuing on...

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I've placed the windows in the openings of one wall and drawn the openings for the other main wall.

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Here are the two main walls with the window openings cut out and the peak areas added. Remember what I said about tracing wall pieces with the inside surfaces together ? Well, when you don't, you have to add a small piece to the top of one to get the true mirror image as you can see in the picture. I was planning on some trim pieces at the tops of the gable ends anyway, so I'm hoping they will cover up my mistake. The house-like outline on the wall is there to help locate a smaller sub-assembly that will attach to the larger wall.

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Here are both main walls with bracing installed. Notice that the end vertical pieces have been placed right at the edge of the walls. I like to use a lot of bracing to prevent any wall warping problems and I always place bracing along the roof lines for more of a gluing surface when applying the roof cards.

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Here are the two side walls with the window and door openings laid out.

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The openings have been cut out. I find that cutting the openings a little smaller than necessary helps to achieve a good final fit. You can always cut a little more and it's not very easy to add material to an opening that is too big.

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The bracing has been added. I use 1/8 square strip-wood for all of my bracing. You can see that the vertical pieces on the ends of the walls is indented. This is done so that when gluing the walls together I have more gluing surface to hold them together. On the larger front and rear walls the end vertical pieces are glued right at the ends of the walls. This means that when the wall pieces are placed together, the end vertical pieces fit together snugly. That's it for now, more later.



Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: GPdemayo on March 19, 2021, 08:35:59 AM
Great start Jeff.....I'll be looking in.  :)
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Jerry on March 19, 2021, 09:05:54 AM
Looking forward to your build.


Jerry
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on March 19, 2021, 09:51:16 AM
Jeff,
 Looking forward to your scratch build of this REA freight house.
Will follow along.
 Tommy
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: ReadingBob on March 19, 2021, 10:43:31 AM
Jeff,

Looking forward to this one as well.  Always admired the kit.  If it helps here are some pictures I took of Doug's pilot model when I was at the EXPO in Altoona a few years back.  :)

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Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: ACL1504 on March 19, 2021, 11:04:18 AM
Jeff,

I'll be following along on this adventure as well. I have this kit and do plan on building it one of these days. It will fit on the Summit level of the Atlantic a\and Southern RrR.

Oh yes, great start.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 19, 2021, 11:31:17 AM
You are off to a good start, Jeff.

A couple of things I noticed.  For your future larger scratchbuilds Northeastern Scale lumber also does 6" wide boards which would make spicing in this case unnecessary.

Secondly, I would suggest you buy yourself a good .5mm clutch pencil.  I find with this I can get my window and door openings very accurate and then there is usually no need to enlarge my openings.  Likewise I very seldomly find I have made then too large.

Do you plan on changing up some of the roofing material?  There is a lot of tar paper in this kit.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 11:34:34 AM
Hey Jeff:

Looks great so far. Will be following along.

Karl S
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: BandOGuy on March 19, 2021, 12:21:42 PM
In awe of your workmanship. Thanks for the running narrative and lessons.
Just one small "nit" if I can. You have a first floor door that sits off to the left of the windows above it. From an architectural and engineering point, the left side of that door frame would be in a direct line with the left side of the windows above it unless there's a major interior reason for them to not line up. The stress of the windows above and their framing would not be placed off center on a door frame unless absolutely necessary.
Trying to be constructive, not critical.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Bernd on March 19, 2021, 12:34:33 PM
Great. Another how to project to study and see how it's done.

I'll be following along.

Bernd
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 05:28:22 PM
Hey Jeff:

I actually built that kit A while back. It’s A great building. I’ll be following your build.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 19, 2021, 05:31:09 PM
Great start Jeff.....I'll be looking in.  :)

Hello Greg, thanks for looking in.

Looking forward to your build.


Jerry

Hey Jerry, I'm looking forward to it as well. I've wanted to do a build of this kit for a while. Doug at Foscale really hit it out of the park with this one.



Jeff,
 Looking forward to your scratch build of this REA freight house.
Will follow along.
 Tommy



Hello Tommy, appreciate you following along. I haven't attempted this large of a scratch-build as of yet and I'm enjoying the experience.

Jeff,

Looking forward to this one as well.  Always admired the kit.  If it helps here are some pictures I took of Doug's pilot model when I was at the EXPO in Altoona a few years back.  :)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-190321103937-48450511.jpeg)

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(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-190321103937-484482132.jpeg)

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Hello Bob, thank you so much for the pictures, every little bit helps. It always seems that when I look at a new picture I see something that I've missed before.

Jeff,

I'll be following along on this adventure as well. I have this kit and do plan on building it one of these days. It will fit on the Summit level of the Atlantic a\and Southern RrR.

Oh yes, great start.

Tom  ;D

Hello Tom, thanks for looking in. I look forward to your build of the kit. I know it will look great on your railroad.

You are off to a good start, Jeff.

A couple of things I noticed.  For your future larger scratchbuilds Northeastern Scale lumber also does 6" wide boards which would make spicing in this case unnecessary.

Secondly, I would suggest you buy yourself a good .5mm clutch pencil.  I find with this I can get my window and door openings very accurate and then there is usually no need to enlarge my openings.  Likewise I very seldomly find I have made then too large.

Do you plan on changing up some of the roofing material?  There is a lot of tar paper in this kit.

Cheers, Mark.

Hey Mark, thanks for the good information. I will have to check out the 6 inch siding for future builds. I will also check out the clutch pencil. Does Michael's have those ? I do plan on changing the roofing material along with some other things. As good as Doug's kit is, I don't want to try to duplicate it. I have to make it my own.

Hey Jeff:

Looks great so far. Will be following along.

Karl S

Hi Karl, I'm glad you are looking in. I looked at the build thread you did of this kit back in 2016 and your pictures and narrative are proving to be a big help, thank you.

In awe of your workmanship. Thanks for the running narrative and lessons.
Just one small "nit" if I can. You have a first floor door that sits off to the left of the windows above it. From an architectural and engineering point, the left side of that door frame would be in a direct line with the left side of the windows above it unless there's a major interior reason for them to not line up. The stress of the windows above and their framing would not be placed off center on a door frame unless absolutely necessary.
Trying to be constructive, not critical.

Thank you BandOGuy for your input. I never take anything as critical, I appreciate all the help I can get.

Great. Another how to project to study and see how it's done.

I'll be following along.

Bernd

Hey Bernd, I hope that you can get something from my build. I know that I have learned a great deal from many of the members of the forum.

Continuing on...

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Now that all of the walls have been assembled and braced, I sprayed them all with rattle can dark grey primer, both back and front. Next I taped off the bottom portion of the walls and dry-brushed some craft paint red on the siding.

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These are the base colors I am going to use for this build. I think that they come close to the red and green of the railway express agency colors.

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Here are the front and rear walls with the red in place top and bottom.

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Here are all four walls with both the red and green color in place. I plan on doing some more weathering when the walls are assembled.

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This is the rear wall after some of the trim has been added. I used 1/16 square strip-wood for the corner trim pieces and 2x4 for the horizontal trim. The windows have been glued in with Aileen's tacky glue and I also added some acetate for the window glass. I downloaded some venetian blind window treatments from the web and used them on the window openings.

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This is the front wall with trim and windows installed. I also used the 2x4 strip-wood for the horizontal trim piece at the color break on the walls. I really liked the rea sign that Doug used on his kit, so I made one on my computer. More in a minute.

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 19, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
Hey Jeff:

I actually built that kit A while back. It’s A great building. I’ll be following your build.

Hello Karl, I know that you built the kit. I'm using your build thread as one of my main reference points for my build. I can only hope to do as good a job as you do.

Continuing on...

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This is a picture of the two side walls after trim has been added. The three large freight doors are made with the backside of some clapboard siding facing out. I primed them with the dark grey spray paint and then painted them with the red trim color. The hinges are from Tichy and I painted them silver. I trimmed the perimeter of the doors with 2x4 strip-wood. I looked up images of REA wall signs on the web and after sizing one down, I printed it out and placed it on the wall.

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These are the walls for two sub-assemblies. One goes on the front and the other goes on the rear. The longer one uses the 1/16 clapboard siding and the smaller one uses the board and batten siding

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The sub-assembly walls have been braced and are now ready for paint. You can see the end vertical pieces on the front pieces are placed right on the edge of the walls and the end vertical pieces on the side walls are indented the size of the wood bracing, so that when the walls are glued together, you get a secure gluing surface.

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The rear sub-assembly has been glued together and additional bracing has been placed across the top and bottom of the rear. You can see the window treatments have also been installed.

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This is a view of the front of the rear sub-assembly. The vertical corner trim has been glued on and the horizontal trim also put in place. I got the signs from the web and resized them for my needs and glued them on. I spread full strength wood glue on the back of the signs and then place them in position on the wall. I then use my fingernail to press the sign against the clapboard siding for that painted on look.

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This is the front sub-assembly. Sorry for the fuzzy look. The man door is from Tichy and I scratch-built the large freight doors the same way as the freight doors on the side wall from before. I used some more Tichy hinges here as well. I modeled the large doors in the open position for an interior view. I built a small platform for the floor. That's it for now, more later.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2021, 07:26:34 PM
Hey Jeff.

Glad my build helped. Yours is looking good.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 20, 2021, 04:45:57 AM
Hi Jeff.

Living in New Zealand - we don't have Michaels.  An art supply store or similar will stock these.  The finer the lead they take the more accurate you will be able to get.  I find .5mm is pretty good, but .7mm is a bit to thick.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Raymo on March 20, 2021, 08:41:35 AM
Great looking build so far Jeff! I built 3 of the REA trucks on Doug's diorama and did a clinic at an EXPO on them. I should post it to the forum.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: GPdemayo on March 20, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
Excellent job on the trucks Dan.....love to see the posts of the clinic.  8)
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Dennis Bourey on March 20, 2021, 09:48:59 AM
 Yes Dan  8) Beautiful build Jeff....
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 20, 2021, 11:32:30 AM
Hey Jeff.

Glad my build helped. Yours is looking good.

Karl

Hello Karl, thanks for looking in and thank you for the kind words.

Hi Jeff.

Living in New Zealand - we don't have Michaels.  An art supply store or similar will stock these.  The finer the lead they take the more accurate you will be able to get.  I find .5mm is pretty good, but .7mm is a bit to thick.

Cheers, Mark.

Hey Mark, I appreciate the information. I'm checking where I can get one.

Great looking build so far Mark! I built 3 of the REA trucks on Doug's diorama and did a clinic at an EXPO on them. I should post it to the forum.

Hello Dan, thank you for the great picture of your trucks. Where are the kits made ? And I would love to see a build thread of your fine work.

Yes Dan  8) Beautiful build Jeff....

Hello Dennis, I appreciate your checking out my build.

Continuing on...

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Another look at the front sub-assembly. My camera seems to be having trouble with the colors here, sorry

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Finally, a better picture. You can see my floor platform which I stained with my AI solution and a pallet with some cut wood shapes to suggest a busy interior.

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This is what the front sub-assembly looks like in place. I haven't glued it yet. The wood color is first a dry brush of antique gold and then a second dry brush of cocoa bean color. The corner trim and 2x4 trim around the door were painted the same color as the walls. The sign above the door is one I got from the web which I then resized to fit.

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Here is the rear sub-assembly in place but also not glued. That's it for now, more later.


Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Raymo on March 20, 2021, 12:28:25 PM
Jeff, They're made by Sylvan Scale Models. They have 6 or 7 different variants..
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 20, 2021, 01:22:05 PM
Hey Jeff:

Looking really good.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 21, 2021, 04:39:22 PM
Jeff, They're made by Sylvan Scale Models. They have 6 or 7 different variants..

Thank you Dan, I may have to get a couple of those. I can only hope to do half as well as your builds. You are the master

Hey Jeff:

Looking really good.

Karl

Thanks Karl, I'm having a good time with this build.

Continuing on...

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The walls for the first building have been glued together. Now I feel like I'm finally getting somewhere.

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I added extra bracing across the top and bottom with the 1/8 square strip-wood. I then installed some extra bracing at the roof peak to give me more gluing surface for the roof cards. I used 1/4 square strip-wood for this. Looking down at the corners you can see how the vertical end pieces on the walls fit together for both more support and more gluing surface. I know that this is pretty basic information for the experienced modelers out there, but if you do not do this at your wall corners when building a structure I definitely recommend it.

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I've started to add some weathering chalks to the walls as seen here. You can also see that I have added a piece of brown construction paper inside the building for a view block. You don't want to be able to see all the way through a building when it is placed on the layout. This is as far as I am going to go with this building for now. Next up is the large freight warehouse building.

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The first step on the freight warehouse is to draw a scale outline of the wall on paper and decide the locations of the doors and windows. As seen here I then transfer the door locations onto the wood wall material.

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These are the tools I use to cut out my door and window openings. First I drill holes at the four corners of the opening with my pin vise. This gives me a good start and end point for the cuts. Next I use a metal straight edge and a sharp #11 Exacto blade to make the line cuts. Go easy and make multiple passes with the knife and make sure the corners have been cut all the way through. Don't force the wood piece out ! Don't ask how I know this. When the cuts are all the way through the wall material, the cut-out piece will lift out easily.

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Here are the front wall and the end wall with the door and window openings laid out. More in a minute

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 21, 2021, 05:10:28 PM
I just finished up another 6 pictures with narrative and somehow lost it all at the last keystroke. Sometimes I hate computers. I'll come back to this all later
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 21, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
Hey Jeff:

The assembled walls look just great.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 22, 2021, 12:09:55 AM
Hey Jeff:

The assembled walls look just great.

Karl

Hello Karl, thank you for the nice words

Well, I'm going to try that last post again. I don't know what I did to lose it before, suddenly it was just gone. Anyway, continuing on...

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Here are the four walls for the freight warehouse with all the doors and window openings cut out and braced with 1/8 square strip-wood. The extra horizontal bracing is to support an interior floor. I plan on several of the large freight doors to be left open for interior views.

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I sprayed both sides of the walls with rattle-can dark grey primer. This seals the wood wall material and also provides a good base for the finish craft paint colors. Another advantage of the primer is that after a light coat of the finish paint some of the grey shows through to give the appearance of walls that will soon need a fresh coat of paint

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After masking off the top portion of the walls with blue painters tape I brushed on the red wall color. Using the painters tape leaves a crisp clear line at the edge of the paint.

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When the red paint was dry, I masked off the bottom portion of the wall and applied the green paint to the top of the walls. The painters tape goes on and off the walls easily and does not pull up any of the paint. The blue painters tape is a very good tool to use when building and painting structures and I definitely recommend it if you are not using it. You can see that I have also started painting the large freight doors.

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Before applying the finish paint to doors and windows I first spray them with rattle-can red primer. When spray painting small parts I first use painters tape with the edges folded over to stick it to a piece of cardboard to give a sticky surface to mount the small pieces too. This prevents the small pieces from flying away from the spray can pressure. Another good use for the painters tape.

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Here are the end wall and the front wall of the warehouse with the doors and windows glued in and some of the wood trim installed. I glued 1/16 square wood for the corner trim pieces and 2x4 wood for the horizontal trim at the color break line. I have applied some signage as well. I liked the large banner style Railway Express Agency sign that is on the front wall of the first building, so I put another one on the end wall. The New York central sign I got off the web and resized it to fit here. I also printed out some numbers for above the large freight doors. The bumpers below the large freight doors are 1/8 square wood with the corners rounded off and painted dark grey. You can see that one door is completely open and one is partially open. These doors will provide views of the interior floor and planned details inside the warehouse. That's it for now, more later.

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 22, 2021, 12:56:45 AM
Hey Jeff:

WOW!!!! you are really doing A great job with this. Keep up the great work and keep the pics flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 24, 2021, 05:38:21 PM
Hey Jeff:

WOW!!!! you are really doing A great job with this. Keep up the great work and keep the pics flowing.

Karl

Hello Karl, thank you for the nice comment, coming from you it means a lot to me

Continuing on...

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The freight warehouse walls have been assembled and I added additional bracing at the corners and across the bottom to help stiffen the structure. The corner diagonals are flush with the bottom of the building and the two cross pieces are even with the floor supports. The cross pieces will strengthen the floor and give me more gluing surface when installing the floor. I used 1/8 square strip-wood for all of the bracing. The reason that the walls do not meet at the upper left of the picture is because this is where the warehouse wraps around the corner of the first building.

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Here I have installed the interior floor. I use the back cardboard piece from a yellow legal pad for this. As you can see, I notched the floor card to fit around the vertical bracing. The warehouse is about 7 inches wide by 11 3/4 inches long.

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Here is a view of the front wall of the warehouse. This will be the street side of the building.

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This is the right end wall. I intend to build a deck/ porch area under the door with some stairs.

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This is the back, track side of the building. This side will face the aisle of my layout. Two of the large freight doors will be open and one will be half open. More in a minute
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 24, 2021, 05:40:30 PM
Hey Jeff:

Looks just beautiful. Keep the pics a coming.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 24, 2021, 06:00:31 PM
Continuing on...

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This is the left side wall. This wall goes up against the right wall of the first building. Most of the wall will not be visible, only the front 3/4 inch and the rear top portion.

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Next up are the interior roof trusses for the warehouse. The first thing that I did, as with all of my scratch-builds was to draw a scale template on some paper. I traced the roof outline and then measured from the top to the interior floor at both sides and the middle. These scale drawings take the place of an instruction sheet and are invaluable to a successful scratch-build. As you can see, I cut the main wood members to fit the drawing and then tape them in place. I used small pieces of the clapboard siding to make some gusset plates for the corners and middle. I then cut some 45 degree angle pieces to strengthen the areas where the posts meet the top. You can see the first completed truss above the template where I am building the second truss.

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I am working on the fourth and last truss here. You can see that I have painted the bottom of the middle post. I didn't go into much detail here because you will not be able to see much of the interior when the roof is on, only what you can see through the open freight doors.

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The trusses have been glued in place and I also glued a small additional piece at the offset wall location to help strengthen that area. I'm very pleased with how the trusses turned out, I know that they will not be visible with the roof on, but I feel that I gained valuable experience by building them that I can put to use on future projects.

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I've started to place some interior details inside the warehouse. I used some bits of strip-wood, some drinking straws and some wood dowels to give the appearance of assorted freight. I still have to glue the open doors in place and weather the floor to give it a more used appearance. That's it for now, more later.

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: ReadingBob on March 25, 2021, 07:09:22 AM
Wonderful job so far Jeff!  This is really shaping up to be a great looking structure.   ;)
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Jerry on March 25, 2021, 08:28:01 AM
Nice job on this Jeff.


Jerry
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: GPdemayo on March 25, 2021, 09:25:25 AM
The trusses look great Jeff.....they really add more visual interest to the interior.  8)
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Bernd on March 25, 2021, 11:51:24 AM
Jeff,

Nice job on the building. Like the detail inside the building with the trusses.

Bernd
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on March 25, 2021, 12:42:29 PM
Lookin good, Jeff.

Nice job on the contrast colours on those doors.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: ACL1504 on March 25, 2021, 02:34:35 PM
Jeff,

Wow, I really like what you are doing here. Makes me want to start my build, but alas, I just don't have the time now.

Great build Jeff, really nice.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 25, 2021, 05:18:36 PM
Thank you Bob, Jerry, Greg, Bernd, Mark and Tom. I appreciate everyone looking in. I'm having a real good time with this scratch-build.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 26, 2021, 01:22:26 AM
Hey Jeff:

It coming along quite nicely. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 29, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Hey Jeff:

It coming along quite nicely. Can't wait to see more.

Karl

Hello Karl, thank you for checking in. I'm enjoying this scratch-build.

Continuing on...

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111049.jpeg)

The roof card for the large freight warehouse is next. The roof is so big that the entire back cardboard piece from a legal pad was not big enough ! I had to cut a second piece and tape it to the large one. The pencil outlines on the roof card are for the roof sub-assemblies. The square one on the right is for the second story office structure and the one on the right is for a clerestory window structure. The irregular shape on the left side of the roof card is there so that the warehouse fits around the first tall structure.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111002.jpeg)

To start the second story office roof sub-assembly I did what I always do on a scratch-build, that is to draw a full size template. The drawing helps me to visualize the actual wall. You can see that I have placed some windows and a corbel (from Tichy) on the drawing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111026.jpeg)

I have cut out the wall pieces from the clapboard siding. Two are cut to match the roof slope and the other two are cut to go along the roof. Window openings have been cut into one of the wall pieces.

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All of the window openings have been cut and the walls have been braced. The bottom brace pieces on the straight bottom walls are placed slightly up so that they do not interfere with the walls resting on the roof. The bracing extends up on the top of the walls to give me a gluing surface for the corbel wall extensions.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111204.jpeg)

The corbel wall extension has been added along with the window glass and the window treatments. Tichy provides acetate cut to the correct size with their windows which is very convenient. For the window treatment on this build I am using a venetian blind look that I copied off of the web. The top piece of bracing is for a larger gluing surface for the roof card. More in a minute



Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 29, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
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The walls were first sprayed with rattle can dark grey primer. I then dry-brushed the green color on the walls. The corbel wall extensions with the glued on corbels and the windows were sprayed with rattle can flat red primer. I sponged on some light grey craft paint to the windows and corbel wall extensions for an aged look and to highlight the corbels. The New York Central signs are from the web. I copied them and then resized them to fit. I glue on my signs with full strength wood glue and then press them into the siding with my fingernail. I have added some brown and black weathering chalks to the walls. I like the venetian blind look in the windows.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111227.jpeg)

The walls have been glued together and strip-wood bracing has been placed across the corners for stability. You can see the corner trim pieces in this view.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111341.jpeg)

A top view of the assembled walls with the bracing. The angle braces really help strengthen the sub-assembly.  The corbels stand out in this view. This is the first time I have used corbels in a build. A look at the Tichy catalog shows several types of corbels to choose from. Items from Tichy are very useful when doing a scratch-build and you will find that the kit manufacturers use Tichy parts in their kits as well.

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A view of the completed walls for the second story roof sub-assembly. I added some horizontal 2x4 strip-wood trim pieces at the wall and corbel wall extension joint. This covers the seam nicely.  I am very pleased with how this came out and I really like the corbels. There is a big difference between just painting molded on corbels on a kit wall and actually placing the corbels on a scratch-built wall and then finishing them. Scratch-building is very challenging and satisfying to me.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-290321111254.jpeg)

Next is the clerestory roof sub-assembly. You can see that I have drawn the outline of it onto my previous drawing. I have cut out the first of two walls that match the roof slope. That's it for now, more later.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: bparrish on March 29, 2021, 02:40:55 PM
Jeff.........

Tell me about the ball end hand drill that showed up in a photo above.   I've seen them before but don't know how you operate them.

Do you palm it and spin the knurl with your fingers or do you wrap a string around the body and pull it to turn?

If it is a cool tool..... I'm always interested.
Thanx


See ya
Bob

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 29, 2021, 03:44:50 PM
Hey Jeff:

A little more progress. Looks just great.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 29, 2021, 05:16:42 PM
Jeff.........

Tell me about the ball end hand drill that showed up in a photo above.   I've seen them before but don't know how you operate them.

Do you palm it and spin the knurl with your fingers or do you wrap a string around the body and pull it to turn?

If it is a cool tool..... I'm always interested.
Thanx


See ya
Bob



Hello Bob, you had it right the first time, you palm it and turn the knurl with your fingers. It is a very simple tool to use and it gives you great control .

Hey Jeff:

A little more progress. Looks just great.

Karl

Hey Karl, thanks for keeping an eye on my build. I'm using pictures from your build thread of the kit as a guide for my scratch-build.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: postalkarl on March 29, 2021, 05:20:50 PM
Hey Jeff:

Ok.

Karl
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Bernd on March 29, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
Jeff,

Some good info for me on construction. Never thought to cross brace a building like you did. I also like the idea of painting the parts of the building before finial assembly. These are some of the techniques you guys have shown that have been so helpful to me. Thanks.

Bernd
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on March 30, 2021, 04:36:20 PM
Hey Bernd, glad that you are getting something worthwhile from my build thread. Like you, I have picked up many useful tips and techniques from members of the forum. The fact that everyone puts their knowledge and experience out there for all to see is what makes this hobby and the forum so great.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on April 01, 2021, 01:50:50 PM
Continuing on...

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Next is the hip roof for the second story office sub-assembly. I started out by cutting a square piece of cardboard for the base of the roof and then glued it to the top of the walls. I then cut  some triangular pieces of cardboard as shown to give me some support for the roof cards. Next I glued the support pieces to the flat roof base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132319.jpeg)

I then cut four more triangular shaped pieces of roof card to form the hip roof. There was a lot of trial and error involved in this process. I finally got the four pieces to fit together properly at the seams as shown. The roof is now ready for some shingles.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132252.jpeg)

This is another view of the second story office sub-assembly with the roof cards installed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132352.jpeg)

I decided that I wanted a clerestory window roof  addition for my warehouse. I saw this on several of Cliff Powers Magnolia Route layout structures and liked the look. I cut out the four wall pieces from the clapboard siding and then cut out the window openings. I used the same 1/8 square strip-wood for the bracing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132424.jpeg)

I painted the windows with rattle can flat red primer. I wanted the windows to be tilted open and Tichy offered a perfect option.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132453.jpeg)

I first sprayed the walls with rattle can dark grey primer and then dry brushed them with my Forest Green craft paint. I glued on the 1/16 square corner trim pieces and after sponging on some light grey to the windows, glued them in place. More in a minute.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on April 01, 2021, 02:09:32 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132640.jpeg)

The walls have been glued together and the tilt out windows have been installed. I cut out a roof card and glued it to the top of the walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132551.jpeg)

Here is a view of the clerestory roof addition with the roof card glued on. The roof is now ready for either shingles or roll-roofing material, I haven't decided which at this point.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132522.jpeg)

Next is a long freight dock for the trackside of the warehouse building. I am using a deck template from a KC Workshop kit I built a while back. I used 8x8 strip-wood for the frame of the dock. I then used 2x8 strip-wood for the floor joists, gluing them using the spacing on the template.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132712.jpeg)

I then glued on 2x10 strip-wood for the deck boards. I cut them into HO scale 8, 10, 12 and 16 foot lengths.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132733.jpeg)

Turning over the dock I glued 2x4 strip-wood for cross bracing between the dock legs which are the same 8x8 strip-wood that I used for the dock framing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-010421132756.jpeg)

I then used 2x4 strip-wood for bracing across the front and back of the dock. There is always a lot of small wood pieces involved in building a dock, but the end result is worth the work. That's it for now, more later.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: GPdemayo on April 01, 2021, 02:40:05 PM
Good looking framing work Jeff..... 8)
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on April 01, 2021, 05:25:39 PM
Looking really good, Jeff.

I always glue my corner trim to the gable walls so I can trim them off to the rake of the roof.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on April 01, 2021, 09:36:11 PM
Good looking framing work Jeff..... 8)

Hello Greg, thanks for the nice comment, I'm having fun with this build

Looking really good, Jeff.

I always glue my corner trim to the gable walls so I can trim them off to the rake of the roof.

Cheers, Mark.

Hey Mark, thanks for checking up on me, you're right, the corner trim should be on the gable end walls to be trimmed to match the roof rake, I don't know what I was thinking- a senior moment I guess.

Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on April 06, 2021, 02:40:46 PM
A short update on my scratch-build while I wait for more roof shingles to come in...

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-050421175317.jpeg)

The man door at the end of the freight warehouse needed a landing and some stairs so I built this from strip-wood from my stash. The deck was built the same way as the long freight dock- 8x8 for the frame, 2x8 for the joists and 2x10 for the floor boards. I used 4x4 for the railing posts and 2x4 for the railings. The stairs were built using stringers from KC's Workshop and 2x8 for the treads. I stained it all with my AI solution and then weathered it with chalks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-050421175342.jpeg)

Another view, I used my red trim color for the railings.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-050421175406.jpeg)

A bottom view with the 2x4 cross bracing. There were a lot of pieces used to build this little landing, but I am pleased with how it came out. I'm getting better with the wood railings.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-050421175501.jpeg)

I ordered 3 tab dark green shingles from Rail Scale Models with the adhesive backing and started the gable roof from the first building. The shingles go on easily and the adhesive backing eliminates the messy glue method of installing the shingles. As you can see, I turned up a few shingles with my Exacto knife and started to weather the roof with some chalks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/1239-050421175429.jpeg)

I also started to shingle the hip roof of the second story roof sub-assembly. That's it for now, more later when the rest of my shingles arrive.



Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: S&S RR on April 07, 2021, 08:48:00 AM
Jeff


Very nice build! It looks great.
Title: Re: Building an REA Freight House
Post by: nycjeff on April 07, 2021, 05:03:00 PM
Hello John, thanks for looking in and for the kind words. I'm enjoying this build very much.
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