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Title: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 02, 2022, 09:24:16 PM
This thread will be the home to my second 2022 Challenge build the FSM Kit #240 Branchline Water Tank.  Box opening photographs to follow.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 04, 2022, 10:30:08 PM
I officially got started on this build, today.  I got the cover off the box and started by priming and assembling the four major castings that make up the base of the Water Tower.  The metal detail castings were also all prepped and primed.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: jerryrbeach on January 05, 2022, 08:03:18 AM
John,


I'll be following this closely as I have a similar kit, the water tank and tool shed combo in my stash.  Looking good so far.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 05, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
I've got this on also John, looking forward to seeing what you do with this build.  :)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 05, 2022, 08:47:18 AM
I'll be following. I really like that stone texture the base has.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 05, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on January 05, 2022, 08:03:18 AM
John,


I'll be following this closely as I have a similar kit, the water tank and tool shed combo in my stash.  Looking good so far.


Jerry


Thank you for following along - I built the water tank and tool shed combo kit about 30 years ago - great kit. It's on my layout providing a water stop for my steam locomotives in the mountains.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 05, 2022, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 05, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
I've got this on also John, looking forward to seeing what you do with this build.  :)


Greg


Thank you for following along.  This first deviation from the traditional kit will be the color of the stones - I will be going with the browns and grays of the stones on my layout.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 05, 2022, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 05, 2022, 08:47:18 AM
I'll be following. I really like that stone texture the base has.


Curt


Thank you for following along - there are many textures in the base including stones, bricks, wood, and concrete blocks. It looks like it was built from the debris found around the railroad yard.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on January 05, 2022, 12:37:27 PM
John,
Will follow along...don't have this one here on the shelf, but tips for doing the water tower in the John Allen Special kit will be very close...
Tommy
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: NEMMRRC on January 05, 2022, 04:51:00 PM
Cool!


I am interested to see how it turns out.


Jaime
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 06, 2022, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 05, 2022, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 05, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
I've got this on also John, looking forward to seeing what you do with this build.  :)

Greg

Thank you for following along.  This first deviation from the traditional kit will be the color of the stones - I will be going with the browns and grays of the stones on my layout.


Sounds like a plan.....I'll be watching.  :)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 06, 2022, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on January 05, 2022, 12:37:27 PM
John,
Will follow along...don't have this one here on the shelf, but tips for doing the water tower in the John Allen Special kit will be very close...
Tommy


Tommy


I don't have the John Allen Special kit so I'm not sure how close the Water Tanks are.  Thank you for following along.



Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 06, 2022, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: NEMMRRC on January 05, 2022, 04:51:00 PM
Cool!


I am interested to see how it turns out.


Jaime


Jaime




Thank you for following along - we will see how this one goes.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 06, 2022, 09:40:18 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 06, 2022, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 05, 2022, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 05, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
I've got this on also John, looking forward to seeing what you do with this build.  :)

Greg

Thank you for following along.  This first deviation from the traditional kit will be the color of the stones - I will be going with the browns and grays of the stones on my layout.





Sounds like a plan.....I'll be watching.  :)


Yup - you got to have a plan.  Thank you for following along Greg
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 06, 2022, 09:41:37 PM
This evening on painted the brick and cement block portions of the foundation walls.  I wanted the paint to cure overnight before I start adding the chalk and alcohol to color the stones.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 08, 2022, 02:46:23 PM
Nice colouring, John.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on January 08, 2022, 02:46:23 PM
Nice colouring, John.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark


Thank you, now for the chalks.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 05:47:40 PM
I have used this technique on a number of builds now with different colors of chalk. Warning: It looks bad until you go through the blending process. In this case the soft pastel chalks that I'm using are pan pastels, but I'm scraping them out of the container they come in on to my glass plate and applying them with a brush using alcohol.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 05:56:57 PM
I paint individual random stones with the chalk and alcohol solution.


After color 1:


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After color 2


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After color 3:

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After Color 4:


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After Color 5:


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 05:59:54 PM
After the alcohol has dried - I then use a dry brush with a little gray tint and rub the colors all together.




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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 06:05:12 PM
After I'm satisfied with the blending I use a soft rubber eraser to remove some of the chalk from the brick surface and the cement block surface.


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Here are a few progress pictures.


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I just keep going back and forth by adding chalk and using the eraser until I'm happy with the results.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 06:06:59 PM
If you rub the brush on the surface to hard you can get corners or high spots showing through that are shinny.  I just go back and add chalk on these spots and dry brush again - lighter this time.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 08, 2022, 06:23:55 PM
Very nice John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: chris.mincemoyer on January 08, 2022, 07:49:33 PM
Wow that looks great. What does the alcohol do for this process? Doesn't appear you used as a wash.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 08, 2022, 06:23:55 PM
Very nice John.


Curt


Thank you,
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 08, 2022, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: chris.mincemoyer on January 08, 2022, 07:49:33 PM
Wow that looks great. What does the alcohol do for this process? Doesn't appear you used as a wash.


Chris


The alcohol turns the chalk dust into paint so it just brushes on.  You want it on the surface heavy so you can move it from one stone to the next during the blending process. To my eye there is a lot more color variations than what you see in the photographs. I'm taking the pictures with my iPhone - I will get the SLR out for the final pictures.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 09, 2022, 03:33:26 AM
Hey John:

All I can say is WOWIE!!!!!!! Those walls are just beautiful. can't wait to see more on this kit.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 09, 2022, 08:42:27 AM
Love the way the stone is looking John.....I need to get some chalks and try this technique.  8)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 09, 2022, 09:40:31 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 09, 2022, 03:33:26 AM
Hey John:

All I can say is WOWIE!!!!!!! Those walls are just beautiful. can't wait to see more on this kit.

Karl


Thank you, my friend. Today, some door castings, and I will start on the wood portion of the Tank.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 09, 2022, 09:44:25 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 09, 2022, 08:42:27 AM
Love the way the stone is looking John.....I need to get some chalks and try this technique.  8)


Greg


Thank you for the kind words.  I really enjoy working with the stone work with this technique. With this color combination it looks like the stone for this water tower was picked up from one of the talus piles along the Railroad line.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: deemery on January 09, 2022, 09:59:13 AM
For a more granitic look, try lightly stippling contrasting chalk colors, after you've done the 'fade and blend'.  I've gotten good results with that.


dave
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 09, 2022, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 09, 2022, 09:59:13 AM
For a more granitic look, try lightly stippling contrasting chalk colors, after you've done the 'fade and blend'.  I've gotten good results with that.


dave


Dave


This is a great suggestion - I usually do this as part of the finishing touch.  After all the handling on the workbench during the building process and just before it goes on the layout.  The nice part about this technique is you can change it at any time. You can even wash the chalk off with clean alcohol and start over if it gets away from you and takes you in a direction you don't like.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 10, 2022, 08:00:22 PM
I made some more progress on this build, today.


Finished, the base with the door castings and squared it up while mounting it to the baseboard provided with the kit.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 10, 2022, 08:01:14 PM
While the glue was drying I stained all of the strip wood for the upper tank.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 10, 2022, 08:02:56 PM
At the end of the day, I added the wood frame that will hold the water tank.


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The frame is weighted down for the night while the glue dries.  Tomorrow, the water tank.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 10, 2022, 08:04:43 PM
Notice the shinny spots on the top stones that I will need to touch up with the chalk. I couldn't keep my fingers off the stonework while I was assembling the wood frame. Two minute touch up job at the end.


The wood base is a real help for holding the structure and keeping your fingers off the stonework.  George mentions in the instructions that he added it on this kit for that reason.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 11, 2022, 08:52:05 AM
Looks awesome so far.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 11, 2022, 11:35:12 AM
Hey John:

looks just great. keep the pics coming.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 11, 2022, 11:58:00 AM
Coming on nicely, John.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on January 11, 2022, 12:34:07 PM
John,
Nice coloring of the stone work ...
Tommy
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 11, 2022, 08:52:05 AM
Looks awesome so far.


Curt


Thank you, I have made more progress and will post an update, tonight.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 11, 2022, 11:35:12 AM
Hey John:

looks just great. keep the pics coming.

Karl


Karl


Thank you, more pictures on the way.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:12:45 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on January 11, 2022, 11:58:00 AM
Coming on nicely, John.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark


Thank you for following along.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on January 11, 2022, 12:34:07 PM
John,
Nice coloring of the stone work ...
Tommy


Tommy


Thank you, I'm really happy with the way the stone work turned out.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:17:23 PM
Well, the glue is dry on the base and its ready for the tank. So I butt glued the two pieces of wood tank material that were supplied with the kit, as per the instructions. I then scribed the lines where the reinforcement rings will go.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:19:09 PM
Next, I stained the wood sections with Driftwood stain, I used Hunterline for the first coat of weathering.


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Weights were applied while it dried to keep it from warping.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:21:01 PM
While the stain was drying I cutout the roof card and did some test fitting. I also glued the roof card to form a cone, and clamped it up to dry.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2022, 09:22:51 PM
Finally, for today, I glued the wood sheeting to the cardboard cylinder that was provided in the kit. George even supplied the rubber bands for holding it while the glue dried.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 12, 2022, 07:59:01 AM
Looking good John..... 8)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 12, 2022, 08:16:54 AM
Very nice John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 09:10:28 AM
Thank you Greg and Curt. Next up the bands around the water tank.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: NEMMRRC on January 12, 2022, 06:20:47 PM
Very nice.


I am puzzled as to how true to life it would be to have mixed construction of brick and stone. Or perhaps the building has a stone veneer and some has fallen off to reveal the brick structure. Not trying to put the kit down. I love the FSM kits. It was just a "head scratcher" for me.


Bang up job with the Pan Pastels.


Jaime
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: deemery on January 12, 2022, 06:46:09 PM
I admit to the same reaction to the structure from an 'historical architecture' question.  Given the reconstruction that has occurred, I'd think the RR would tear it down and replace it with a proper wooden frame.  The best I could come up with is "reuse of an existing spring house" the RR bought and put a tank on top. 


But of course, Rule 1 applies (and that's true for multiple FSM structures.  The 155 Old Time Coal Dock has some similar "Why would they do THAT?" problems.  The original idea came from an -ore- loading dock by Irv Schulz, I believe.




dave
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: SteveCuster on January 12, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
Looking good John! I've built this one a few times and it's always a classic. My favorite water tank kit produced.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: NEMMRRC on January 12, 2022, 06:20:47 PM
Very nice.


I am puzzled as to how true to life it would be to have mixed construction of brick and stone. Or perhaps the building has a stone veneer and some has fallen off to reveal the brick structure. Not trying to put the kit down. I love the FSM kits. It was just a "head scratcher" for me.


Bang up job with the Pan Pastels.


Jaime


Jaime


Interesting question.  The real answer is George made his kits interesting and they look great. Adding different building materials creates points of interest that draw your eyes into the details. In rural America the Architect was the guy that built the building out of the materials he had on hand.


Now the S&S RR answer - we are a mountain railroad where building materials are expensive to ship in.  There are lots of rocks readily available from all the blasting that was done to put the railroad through the mountains. If you are  putting up a water tower for the passenger depot you use what's available in the area, bricks, cement blocks and all those cheap rocks.  It takes very expansive timbers to hold a water tank up in the air. Timbers that are better used in the big cities where the architects do their thing and they bring in revenue for the Railroad.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 12, 2022, 06:46:09 PM
I admit to the same reaction to the structure from an 'historical architecture' question.  Given the reconstruction that has occurred, I'd think the RR would tear it down and replace it with a proper wooden frame.  The best I could come up with is "reuse of an existing spring house" the RR bought and put a tank on top. 


But of course, Rule 1 applies (and that's true for multiple FSM structures.  The 155 Old Time Coal Dock has some similar "Why would they do THAT?" problems.  The original idea came from an -ore- loading dock by Irv Schulz, I believe.




dave


Dave


Interesting discussion - I gave my take on it in my response to Jaime's original post.  As for the wood coal / ore loading docks.  Lake Superior had many of them in the late 1800's. Ore boats would take the ore out and bring coal in to run all of the locomotives and mining equipment.  The ruins of these structures were still around when I went to school up there in the late 1970's.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: SteveCuster on January 12, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
Looking good John! I've built this one a few times and it's always a classic. My favorite water tank kit produced.


Steve


Thank you for stopping by the thread and the kind words. I have built a few water tanks over the years and this is by far my favorite to-date. I see a larger scratch built version in my future.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:51:36 PM
I made some more progress on this build, today.


I followed George's instruction on adding the bands on the tank and it worked great.  You start by adding pins as starting points for each band.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:54:44 PM
You then tie the string for the bands to the first pin and wrap around the tank. Then you move down to the next pin, and wrap around again keeping the string in the scribe marks that we made, yesterday.  This process continues until you get to the bottom band and then you tie the string off on the last pin.




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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 12, 2022, 10:56:07 PM
The final step for tonight was to add the water marker, which covers the pins.  This required some unique clamping while the glue dried.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 13, 2022, 05:03:45 AM
Hey John:

You are quite welcome. Looks like you are off to A good start on the tank.

Kafrl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 13, 2022, 07:41:54 AM
Very nice John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 13, 2022, 08:17:24 AM
Great job on the tank John.....
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 13, 2022, 09:55:18 PM
Karl, Curt, and Greg




Thank you, next up the roof.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 09:51:05 AM
Next step was to glue the tank to the base and the roof to the tank. I found the perfect tool for holding the roof in place, a plastic cup, while the glue dried.  Yes, the weight is off center, that's where it wanted to be to make the roof level.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 10:00:37 AM
While the glue was drying for the roof I started to glue the tank band lugs on.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: deemery on January 15, 2022, 10:31:52 AM
How are you doing the bands?  What glue are you using?  This is one of those things where either you have to be really good to get the hoop correctly positioned the first time, or like the rest of us, allow for adjustment :-) :-)


dave
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 15, 2022, 11:09:09 AM
Looks great John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 15, 2022, 10:31:52 AM
How are you doing the bands?  What glue are you using?  This is one of those things where either you have to be really good to get the hoop correctly positioned the first time, or like the rest of us, allow for adjustment :-) :-)


dave


Dave


If you go back a page or two you will see where I scribed the tank sheeting, as per George's instructions. It works great - the thread for the bands fits into the groves and if you pull it tight it stays put.  I added small dots of glue (titebond III) in a few places just to make sure. This is not my first water tower and I now enjoy building them - I hated putting the bands on until this one. 




Note: I called George and told him how I liked his technique.  He said and I quote "I hated putting bands on water tanks, this is the best way I have found to do it". 


Try it on your next water tank, I think you will like it.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 11:18:02 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 15, 2022, 11:09:09 AM
Looks great John.


Curt


Thank you,
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 15, 2022, 01:52:23 PM
Coming on nicely, John.

I do question the amount of lime leaching around the brickwork.  I find it stands out too much for my liking on this model - even when viewing from a distance.  It kind of distracts from the beautiful stonework.

Cheers, Mark.

Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on January 15, 2022, 01:52:23 PM
Coming on nicely, John.

I do question the amount of lime leaching around the brickwork.  I find it stands out too much for my liking on this model - even when viewing from a distance.  It kind of distracts from the beautiful stonework.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark


You make a great point - I need to go after those bricks with the eraser some more.  You will notice that the bricks in the front are better, but I still think some should go there, too.  Thank you for the good eye.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 15, 2022, 02:34:08 PM
Hey John:

Sure does look just beautiful.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 15, 2022, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 15, 2022, 02:34:08 PM
Hey John:

Sure does look just beautiful.

Karl


Karl


Thank you, I'm pretty happy with the way it is turning out.  Now for the finishing touches.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 16, 2022, 08:42:58 PM
I made a little more progress on this build, today. A few detail castings were added, rafter tails were added,  and the shingles started going on the roof. I'm using the Campbell shingles that came with the kit on this build.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Janbouli on January 17, 2022, 05:30:54 AM
Very very nice , stone is beautiful and I love the wood beams .
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Opa George on January 17, 2022, 06:30:11 AM
Excellent job, John.  Coming along beautifully.  My wife was looking over my shoulder as I read over new posts and she commented on how realistic it looks.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 17, 2022, 08:44:48 AM
Hey John:

Just beautiful. Almost finished I'd say.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 17, 2022, 08:55:42 AM
Excellent modeling John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 20, 2022, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 17, 2022, 05:30:54 AM
Very very nice , stone is beautiful and I love the wood beams .


Jan


Thank you for the kind words. This has been a real enjoyable build - I'm real happy with the way this is turning out.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 20, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
Quote from: Opa George on January 17, 2022, 06:30:11 AM
Excellent job, John.  Coming along beautifully.  My wife was looking over my shoulder as I read over new posts and she commented on how realistic it looks.

--Opa George


Opa George


Thank you and your wife for the kind words.  Realistic is what we are going for so that's a great complement. Thank you for following along.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 20, 2022, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 17, 2022, 08:44:48 AM
Hey John:

Just beautiful. Almost finished I'd say.

Karl


Karl


Thank you for the encouraging words - and yes we are getting close.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 20, 2022, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 17, 2022, 08:55:42 AM
Excellent modeling John.


Curt


As always, thank you for following along and the encouraging words.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 20, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
Here is a progress picture from the end of the day, today.  We got the roof on and a few more details.


I have more details to add, tomorrow and this one will be ready to go on the layout. Some how I'm completing challenge (2) before challenge (1). It just happens. I hope Dan isn't going to deduct points for this error.






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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: bparrish on January 20, 2022, 09:48:03 PM
John..............

This was the kit that I never scored.    In 1968 a friend kit collected for me while I was on the rivers in Viet Nam.  When I got home he had a great selection of stuff that had come available while I had been away.  Cost me a solid 300 bux.


In that batch was four Campbell flat car kits......... no one even remembers that they made car kits................  several Canadian Railway Models CRM refrigerator kits including Barf Beer and Foe Nee Baloney and one other.  No one remembers these either.  And a bunch of other now forgotten stuff.


In all of that was the FSM engine house.  A solid ten bux at the time and we all thought it was a lot at the time.

I later built the engine house and later still the tar paper roof that was in the kit was just too much black and overshadowed other structures.  So I re did the roof and made it look like a crew was putting on a new roof.  And then later again I put a complete interior in the building and made the original structure a lift off to be able to see it.

I never acquired the water tank that George released only shortly after the engine house.   So it is really fun to watch you build it now..

Thanx
Bob

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-200122214056.jpeg)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Oldguy on January 20, 2022, 11:08:37 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: GPdemayo on January 21, 2022, 08:42:32 AM
Nice job on the shingles John..... 8)
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 21, 2022, 08:45:22 AM
That looks very cool. Love all the details and especially the roofers.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 21, 2022, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: bparrish on January 20, 2022, 09:48:03 PM
John..............

This was the kit that I never scored.    In 1968 a friend kit collected for me while I was on the rivers in Viet Nam.  When I got home he had a great selection of stuff that had come available while I had been away.  Cost me a solid 300 bux.


In that batch was four Campbell flat car kits......... no one even remembers that they made car kits................  several Canadian Railway Models CRM refrigerator kits including Barf Beer and Foe Nee Baloney and one other.  No one remembers these either.  And a bunch of other now forgotten stuff.


In all of that was the FSM engine house.  A solid ten bux at the time and we all thought it was a lot at the time.

I later built the engine house and later still the tar paper roof that was in the kit was just too much black and overshadowed other structures.  So I re did the roof and made it look like a crew was putting on a new roof.  And then later again I put a complete interior in the building and made the original structure a lift off to be able to see it.

I never acquired the water tank that George released only shortly after the engine house.   So it is really fun to watch you build it now..

Thanx
Bob

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-200122214056.jpeg)


Bob


Your build looks great. I really like scenes that show work in progress, like putting the roof on, or adding an addition. They bring the layout to life.  I was thinking as I read your post, now this guy is a real modeler.  He remembers the major events in his life by the kit that George put out that year. Thank you for your comments and for following along on this thread. And Thank You for your service.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 21, 2022, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on January 20, 2022, 11:08:37 PM
Looking good!


Bob


Thank you, getting close.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on January 21, 2022, 09:56:05 AM
Lovely work on that tower, John!
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 21, 2022, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 21, 2022, 08:42:32 AM
Nice job on the shingles John..... 8)


Greg


Thank you for the kind words.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 21, 2022, 10:03:05 AM
Quote from: Keep it Rusty on January 21, 2022, 09:56:05 AM
Lovely work on that tower, John!


Craig


Thank you for the kind kind words.  See my post back to Bob, I hope we are all going to start remembering the years by the kits that Craig puts out. Good luck on your journey.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 21, 2022, 04:36:12 PM
hey you Two:

you builds look just great.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 02:57:47 PM
It's time for the final workbench pictures of this build.  I will be adding more detail castings and scenery, but it will be after it is mounted on my layout.  So here are the pictures on my workbench, followed by a picture of the build in the approximate location on the layout.


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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 02:59:41 PM
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Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: bparrish on January 23, 2022, 03:42:53 PM
Looks good to me....


Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2022, 04:26:13 PM
Another great build John.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 23, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Really nice, John.

I think the water tower fits far better here.  Its a real focal point, but looks like part of the station rather than competing with it or distracting from it.  I think the toned down brick mortar lines look just right, too.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Janbouli on January 23, 2022, 05:52:03 PM
Outstanding, weathering looks perfect.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: craftsmankits on January 23, 2022, 06:40:24 PM
Looks awesome.  You've put the bug in me to purchase and build this kit.  Mark
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: bparrish on January 23, 2022, 03:42:53 PM
Looks good to me....


Thanx
Bob


Bob


Thank you, Sir.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 06:45:18 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2022, 04:26:13 PM
Another great build John.


Curt


Thank you, I think it will work real nice in the place I have for it.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on January 23, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Really nice, John.

I think the water tower fits far better here.  Its a real focal point, but looks like part of the station rather than competing with it or distracting from it.  I think the toned down brick mortar lines look just right, too.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark


Thank you for your kind words and for your comments along the way. You have a good eye and I value your input. I see some real kit bashing in my future - I have a lot of kits that are just too big for my layout.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 23, 2022, 05:52:03 PM
Outstanding, weathering looks perfect.


Thank you for the kind words, my friend.   And it's great to see you back at your workbench, too.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 23, 2022, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: craftsmankits on January 23, 2022, 06:40:24 PM
Looks awesome.  You've put the bug in me to purchase and build this kit.  Mark


Mark


Thank you for the kind words and good luck with finding one.  It is a very nice kit. I will actually buy another one myself, if the price is right. I want to kit bash one and put it on the other side of the layout.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Oldguy on January 24, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
Nailed it! 
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 24, 2022, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on January 24, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
Nailed it!


Bob


Thank you,
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: jerryrbeach on January 24, 2022, 11:45:52 AM
John,


Absolutely wonderful modeling!  Not only that, you included lots of tips I can use to help me build better models.  I love where it will be planted on the layout, it really deserves to be up front where it can be fully appreciated. 
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 24, 2022, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on January 24, 2022, 11:45:52 AM
John,


Absolutely wonderful modeling!  Not only that, you included lots of tips I can use to help me build better models.  I love where it will be planted on the layout, it really deserves to be up front where it can be fully appreciated.


Jerry




Thank you so much for the kind encouraging words. I'm looking forward to the scenery work in this area.  I can't wait to see how all these structures look with the scenery around them.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: postalkarl on January 25, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
hey John:

The finished product looks just gorgeous.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Opa George on January 25, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
I totally agree with everyone, John. Absolutely top shelf modeling. It turned out great.
This is one to come back to for reference.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 25, 2022, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on January 25, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
hey John:

The finished product looks just gorgeous.

Karl


Karl


Thank you, my friend.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 25, 2022, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: Opa George on January 25, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
I totally agree with everyone, John. Absolutely top shelf modeling. It turned out great.
This is one to come back to for reference.

--Opa George


George


Thank you for the very kind words. I will be building more water towers for my layout and I will be coming back to this thread for reference, myself.  It will help me remember what I did. ;)  Us retired guys have to stick together. If I remember correctly you have about a month to go before you officially join our ranks.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: cuse on January 29, 2022, 09:57:30 AM
Great work John. That wood just looks "wet and weepy". What a cool little kit with all of that great detail in the stonework. The coloring and finish really fit your little world and provide a nice railroad contrast to that shiny station.


I think Reading Bob offered me one of these a while back and I determined I didn't have room - dumb ;D


John
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: Opa George on January 29, 2022, 12:12:52 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 25, 2022, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: Opa George on January 25, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
I totally agree with everyone, John. Absolutely top shelf modeling. It turned out great.
This is one to come back to for reference.

--Opa George


Thank you for the very kind words. I will be building more water towers for my layout and I will be coming back to this thread for reference, myself.  It will help me remember what I did. ;)  Us retired guys have to stick together. If I remember correctly you have about a month to go before you officially join our ranks.

Thanks for remembering, John. Yes, just two weeks now. It's a strange, but good feeling, seeing it so close.


George
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 29, 2022, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: cuse on January 29, 2022, 09:57:30 AM
Great work John. That wood just looks "wet and weepy". What a cool little kit with all of that great detail in the stonework. The coloring and finish really fit your little world and provide a nice railroad contrast to that shiny station.


I think Reading Bob offered me one of these a while back and I determined I didn't have room - dumb ;D


John


John


Thank you for the kind words - this little waterpower can fit just about anywhere. I see more than one on the S&S RR.
Title: Re: FSM Kit # 240 Branchline Water Tank - 2022 Challenge (2)
Post by: S&S RR on January 29, 2022, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: Opa George on January 29, 2022, 12:12:52 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 25, 2022, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: Opa George on January 25, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
I totally agree with everyone, John. Absolutely top shelf modeling. It turned out great.
This is one to come back to for reference.

--Opa George


Thank you for the very kind words. I will be building more water towers for my layout and I will be coming back to this thread for reference, myself.  It will help me remember what I did. ;)  Us retired guys have to stick together. If I remember correctly you have about a month to go before you officially join our ranks.

Thanks for remembering, John. Yes, just two weeks now. It's a strange, but good feeling, seeing it so close.


George


George


I felt the same way, but I know I was ready.  It took me twenty minutes to get used to it.  Just the amount of time it took to hear that gate click behind me for the last time. drive home,  and walk into my layout room.  Day one came the big decision - do I want to work on the layout, go up North and go fishing, or sit here and think about what else I want to do.