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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 17, 2020, 10:00:56 PM »
Before adding the loft walls, there is a loft floor to add.  I'm pretty sure it is there for structural purposes, either way it got added.  Because I added a bunch of bracing, it has to be added before the walls.  Without the bracing, it most likely could be added later.  The side walls started out curved, so they all have a bunch of bracing.  The one below the window is the only piece indicated in the instructions as a loft floor support.  One could easily overlook drawing the guidelines and  adding these pieces.
Next is a floor and false walls for the lower portion of the elevator.  While the tall walls were flat, they have one add a floor support even with the door openings.  Easy enough.  But then several steps later, they have you make up the floor/wall assembly.  This doubles up in the floor supports.  I found that out when I went to install the floor.  I was able to remove the set on the floor and moved on.  The intent is to make up this three-sided feature so the trackside door s can be open and one sees a floor and two walls.  Because I add a bunch of bracing, this was not going to be possible, and if I hadn't it would be tricky to add the entire assembly.  I should note that if you add additional bracing, either keep it well away from the door opening or figure out where the false wall support posts are going to land an placing the bracing next to it, so that it would also hold up the false side walls.  As it was, I had to drop the walls down from the top and then, using a long small paint brush apply glue though the opposite door opening.

Here is a rather poor shot of the trackside opening.

Now for a mea culpa.  I found that one long side wall has a part, next to the door opening, that despite my best efforts, was glued in upside down.  Because there is a scale house, I can make sure that this side will go here where it will be hidden from direct viewing.




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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 17, 2020, 09:39:25 PM »
While I got other bits glue drying, on to the foundation.  Woo hoo they included a foundation.  I sprayed it with Tamiya gray primer and now it is time to cut them up.  They were cut about 1/4" long, so it was a simple matter of coming in a bit on the ends, draw a 45 degree angle, make the cut, and then sand true.

A moment of truth - gluing the elevator walls together.  I used a bunch of 1-2-3 blocks and clamps to try to keep everything square.  It worked.

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 17, 2020, 09:23:14 PM »
Thanks for sharing the build of your grain elevator.

As much as I admire the quality of your builds, I am also enjoying your style of writing about your progress, always with a good sense of humor and self reflection.

Re: the Campbell instructions, I always make several copies of any diagrams, templates, which you can then attach to a flat surface, and don't have to worry about messing them up, not being able to access what's written on the back, and you can cut the copies into convenient pieces.  Copying also allows you to easily mirror the drawing, so that you can work with it in a way that is more suitable.  After I attach the templates to a flat surface, I usually cover them with wax paper, so that I can do direct assembly work over the template.

Nice work so far, I like the coloring of the tower.  Did you do that solely with powders?

I will keep following

Urs
I haven't seen the need to build over any templates lately.  That may change.  One thing that I do when I do make copies is to add a scale, both horizontally and vertically to ensure that nothing was lost in the copying.  I should mention that I use a scanner and then either print that directly, convert it to PDF, or a jpg.  So a lot can happen.

Thanks for the comment on writing style.   It isn't for everyone.  It runs in the family.  I have a cousin who co-writes mysteries. 


Yes, the coloring is all from weathering powders over an A&I application.  It worked out on a previous build where it was all powders and chalk.

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 16, 2020, 09:45:04 PM »
Thanks all for the comments.

Now it was time to apply the ubiquitous Campbell corner pieces. Since the walls still have a slight bow, I had to do this front side down and add either a weight or strong magnet until the glue caught.

One thing to pay attention to is the corner bevels needed for the elevator shoulders.  I was a simple matter of extending the slope line and cut carefully so as not to go all the way through.  Just the outer corner.
With glue drying, I painted the plastic bits.  I had a window that came with a broken mullion that couldn't be fixed.  So it would give me the oppotrunity to have a broken window.  This kit , as with most of their older ones, does not come with any window material.  So on to the clear plastic folder.Found a strip and come to find out, I could make a long thin strip and it would fit all openings.  I just couldn't get the hank of making a "broken" window pane, so I just removed the affected section.  I used a thin strip from a wood carrier sheet from the grain mill kit and used it to make it look like the window was boarded up.  I would love to show it, but I just can't seem to find it.  Sounds weird, but it simply vanished.

I did get the new sliding doors to look like sliding doors with appropriate bracing.

There isn't much I could do until tomorrow, so I thought I'd share some of the templates that came with the kit.  Most normal, people would have tacked these down on a flat board.  In the past I used an old drafting board, but the templates are printed on both sides, so that was out.  You might notice some illustrations without any surface detail.  That is because, these are from the inside out.  Those showing clapboard or scribed detail are external views.  This can get rather confusing at time and required flipping the large illustration sheets many times.  And since these were done before the days of computers, it is a testiment to the skill of the draft person to keep everything correct.


There is one sheet for the foundation and floors.  Even here they show the parts represented.

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 15, 2020, 09:25:09 PM »
I managed to select the color, Antique Iron.  Campbell suggested a red or white.

As long as I was coloring parts, I decided to jump to Bag B parts to see what needed to be colored.  First up was the four parts that had windows.  Did the old painters tape on the back and cut out the holes.  Well, batting 50%.  The track side sliding doors decided to try my patience.  And they won.  Okay, I want to think that somewhere I heard tat one can hit the backside of wood parts to keep the broken bits together.  Apparently, my remembery was wrong.  Then I noticed that the window cut outs were different.  Same size, but different heights.  Time to start over.

So, I went through my inventory and found that I don't have wide scribed siding, but I have car siding and 1x4 material.  I now noticed that I build them for hinges and not for sliding.  I'll fix them tomorrow.

So the next hunt for soon-to-be-red parts went after the scale house parts.  I managed to slowly find various parts and get them glued up, and wound up at the end sections.  Remember when I needed four pieces and only had three and none of them matched?  Well, here we are again.  The peaked pieces are okay, as are the side pieces.  But what's off are the two horizontal rectangular pieces one on each end.  I could rob the lower right one and fiddle and split the shortfall under the left sloped piece, but then I now wold be be two pieces short.  I do not have any 6" clapboard.  I got some 3", no 6" and I'd still be futzing to get parts to fit.  So, I'll see how long it'll take Northeast Scale Lumber to get me some clapboard material.  And just work around this part.

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Kit Building / Re: Murr Maybury Grist mill question
« on: September 15, 2020, 08:51:09 PM »
So what you are looking for is the dimensions of a shake shingle?  If so, they can vary from 16" to 24" long and widths can vary from 6" to 12".  The reveal will vary by roof pitch and length of shingle.  Try a 4" reveal for a 16", 6" revel for 18", and 8" for 24" long shingle.
As to the cedar for shingles, might try to work out a deal at a local tobacco store to have them save the high-end cigar wrappers.



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Scratchbuilding / Re: Wood box cars Scratch building and trick shots
« on: September 15, 2020, 09:53:55 AM »
That last approach, with the steel/iron rail, was a key part of the Wagner plug door, that was widely used around the turn of the century.  Craig Bisgeier did one for his PRR XC/XD kit.  The door itself was an early plug door, with a refrigerator door style latch.  Westerfield has a kit for a PRR XG, same kind of door.  https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=99_449&products_id=656

dave
Interesting how those doors slide open to the left. 

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 14, 2020, 06:15:40 PM »
Bag A parts have dried, but many were still curled.  I had to switch gears on the edge gluing and use a magnetic jig to hold everything in place.  The upper peak wasn't the same back to back.  It looked like the die cut was a bit off and one sheet was fed face up and the other face down.  It was off by 1/16"  Soooo, I did a bit of trimming.  Can't wait to see how that will bite me later one. They do tell you to glue all the pieces together face down as not all wood have the same thickness.  And they were right.  I used a PBL brass weathering brush to remove any excess glue.  so far so good.


 Needless to say , bracing (not included) is a must.  Each of these sides have 8 pieces.  So far.
The other, and flat side was built similarly, but each has two sections that are made separately.

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 14, 2020, 06:06:06 PM »
You read the instructions ! ! ! !


You are not a true GUY.

But I am following along none the less.

thanx
Bob
Yeah, well Normally one can get a general idea how everything is supposed to go or just look at all the pretty photos.  This thing has way to many small bits for that.

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Scratchbuilding / Re: small office
« on: September 14, 2020, 06:03:26 PM »
Very nice start.

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Kit Building / Re: Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 13, 2020, 08:51:32 PM »
It is always a good idea to read and re read these instructions and locate parts.  Here, I am working on identifying all bag A parts as they will need to be hit with A&I .  Considering the amount of bend most of these have, I hope me weighing them down afterwards will remove most of it.  The more astute observer will not the there aren't any tall parts for the elevator section.  They do provide 18 piece of siding, many of which need to be edged glued together.  This task should be easier thanks to Bob Parrish scratch building hints and tips on edge gluing.

Prior to the dunking, I notice a bunch of fuzz which required the use of steel wool.  I do a use nitrile glove to protect the old fingers.  It does make a heck of a mess.
So while bag A parts were drying, I might as well prime all the plastic parts.  These include the standard Campbell doors and windows.  They provide a single stair stringer to be cut in half or so and two pieces of "chimney" stock, also each to be cut in half to make a brick chimney.  If this is like their other kits, there will be an internal wood former to aid in eit together.

So, while the plastic parts are drying, it was on to identify bag B parts.  For each step, the list of material is listed.  So one knows that he/she need 2 pieces of B3 and their size is given.  I found it just as easy to pick out similar parts and then find which one it is.  I then right down on the back the number and orientation.  Some parts may vary by only 1/32", so pay close attention.  Unfortunately, I had problems positively identifying all parts.  In the photo, all the parts on the left are floor material and not an issue.  Those in the upper section have been positively identified.  What I have left are three parts and two are supposed to be the same.  All three are close, but no cigar.  I really won't know until the scale house is built to see what fits where.  I'll soak all in A&I anyway, knowing I might have to replace one or more of them.


It should be said that some of the illustrations are "see-through", so the parts seen are from the backside.  One has to really look at them to figure out which ones those are.

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Kit Building / Campbell Scale Models Grain Elevator
« on: September 13, 2020, 08:25:57 PM »
On to the next big adventure.   While waiting for material to reorganize my paints, I need a project that wouldn't need a lot of paint.  So here I am with the Grain Elevator kit.  For those not all familiar, but back in the day, the last set of digits on the kit box was the retail price.  In this case a whole $17.95 or about %40 in today's dollars.

First the requisite box and contents.  Four bags of section specific parts, a bunch of strip wood, instructions, several pages of templates, and cardboard roof stock.  I won't be using the included sign, although they provide instructions on how one can hand paint it on instead.

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Kit Building / Lake Junction Ozark Cafe
« on: September 12, 2020, 06:20:42 PM »
I would like to know if anyone here or if anyone knows of somebody who has Lake Junction Models Ozark Cafe kit?  I am needing the instructions and a list of the kit contents.

I bough as couple kit a number of years ago right after Bill's place caught on fire.  He had kit parts but lost the computer and instructions to the flames.  But now it appears I'm short several parts as well.

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Kit Building / Re: Sierra West Deer Creek Mine
« on: September 11, 2020, 08:11:05 PM »
Looks really good.  So you're saying that you added all the rafters just to cover them up?

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Kit Building / Re: Laserkit Dabler Mill & Supply
« on: September 10, 2020, 09:19:17 PM »
Thank you all.  This is the biggest structure that I have ever built and finding a place for it will require me building a second deck and I haven't even finished building the first level.  My railroad is limited to a 24" depth and this is 18".  We'll see. 


So for now, I have the extra detail parts with it and the whole shebang sitting on some mainline track around the corner.

So, the final shots include the placement of various bags that have a paper overlay.  Well nuts, I see I missed an edge to paint.  I'll fix it before long.

But first, I really, really need to clean up my work area.  And this doesn't show three wire storage racks of stuff behind my chair.

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