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Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:13:07 PM »
Hey Der Folks!


I am working on my first craftsman kit J. Keen Supplies. The kit came with assorted little signs. I am wondering what type of backing do you use on these to replicate a metal sign?  I seen a tutorial that used an aluminum can when making street signs, but I think that might be to thick for a wall sign.  I know how to do the "painted on' look, but unsure of how to create a metal looking sign.


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-Steven
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2020, 03:03:34 PM »

Stephen,


There are a couple ways to approach this.  One is to use transfer tape and fasten some .005 or .010 styrene to stiffen the paper sign.  I usually copy the sign and print it out on 110# cardstock.  This is the weight recommended by Clever Models for printing their building kits or textures.  If you go this route, use the edge of a gray marker applied from the back of the sign to cover the white edge.  Either way, some dry brushed rust will help sell the look of a porcelain sign.  HTH
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2020, 03:04:46 PM »
Metal signs tend to be a lot more glossy than signs painted on wood.  So to get a metal look, maybe you just need to paint/spray it with Glosscote or a similar gloss medium.  Just be careful to keep the gloss coat thin.


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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 03:07:36 PM »
Thank You Jerry, I think I have some .005 styrene in my stash.


Deemery, thank you for the tip on the gloss coat.


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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 04:19:07 PM »
I have also used the aluminum from empty cans of Coke. Easy to cut with tin snips. Transfer tape works great. Nice and thin. And, the back looks like metal ('cuz it is). You just make sure to stick your sign to the printed side of the can.

The BURGERS sign on top of the little diner building was made this way.



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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 04:28:08 PM »
Aluminum Foil Duct tape works well for this though you need to dull it down with dullcote or flat something.  The tape is thicker than tinfoil and with the self adhesive backing, it saves a few steps over the popcan.  The foil is a bit flimsy, but with the paper of the sign laminated to it, it is quite stiff.
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2020, 07:43:45 AM »
Thank You vinceg and Rail and Tie for the additional feedback, it's greatly appreciated.  Will be trying all these tips.


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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2020, 10:44:40 AM »
This sign is printer paper mounted to heavy kitchen aluminum foil with 3M Super 77 spray contact cement.  It's now been on my layout 5 years w/o problems, but it's in an area safe from roving elbows.
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2020, 01:44:46 PM »
Nice idea -- I keep forgetting about the 3M 77 product. Handy.
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2020, 08:11:42 AM »
Great ideas about the heavy aluminum foil and soda can as backing.....I'll give it a try.  8)
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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2020, 07:34:19 PM »
All great ideas and I really like the Acme sign.

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Re: Backing for "Metal" Signs?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 03:48:31 PM »
Thanks, Tom. I found the original image on the net; it appeared to be a weathered metal sign but there was a lot of glare in the photo.  I used GIMP to fix the colors and perspective, and scale it.
James