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Jim Donovan

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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #150 on: October 01, 2020, 09:17:51 AM »
Thanks John and Curt;

We are slowly making progress. I need to make sure not to touch the structure unless a must. With all the things being done the touching was starting to mar the finish. I cleaned it up and put it on a foam board that has two sided tape. Now when I work on it I am not touching, if I really need to touch I am wearing latex gloves.

Thoughts or suggestions always appreciated.

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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #151 on: October 04, 2020, 11:01:53 PM »
Time to catch this thread post up to where I am. My helper is bored and wants me to finish up:



As mentioned the kit comes with a blank backside.. If you plan to add windows or doors best to do so while the walls have not yet been assembled. I let myself get in a hurry so now have to be careful cutting out the openings with the walls in place. I decided to keep things simple using four each Tichy #8024 and four each #8069. The larger 8024 double hung windows go on the second floor which is were you would expect the better rooms to be. The smaller 8069 windows go across the first floor. The 8069 windows are in various open positions, much like you would see for the staff work rooms. I will be making a separate scratch built kitchen and connect it to the main building. In 1900 many hotels (and homes) had separate kitchens to isolate them in case of fire.

I first made a template to line the openings up correctly. I used Inkscape on my computer to get the shapes, locations and dimensions 100%. Any draw program can do this quickly. I printed out the design and cut out the shape.



I taped this to one of the back walls and using a thin #3 pencil carefully outlined the opening. Using an #11 exacto knife I cut the openings and squared them up with an emory board. I flipped the tempete over to align correctly on the other side and did the same. The Tichy windows were cut from their sprue for airbrushing with gray primer then the crocodile green. However, first the tiny bumps left by the sprue needed to be removed. I like to use a sanding block I made that has #400 sand paper taped tightly to it.



In the above picture you can see the cut openings in back walls as well as the sanding block and windows I am using. The sanding block makes sure the window is square as it is lightly sanded to remove the bumps.
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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #152 on: October 04, 2020, 11:53:20 PM »
Since I am using glass for the windows I needed to cut the glass to shape. Here I used microscope slide covers as the material. It is thin enough to fit into the 'tray' area Tichy provides for their acetate plastic windows. Using calipers I measured the exact dimensions off the inner sides of the 8024's two window areas. Another template with these dimensions was made and taped to the cutting mat. The glass was scribed, cut, placed in the two 'tray' areas  of the Tichy window. I put a drop of canopy glue first in each corner to hold the glass. I did not use the UV glue as I was having trouble with the UV light and could not fix it. I forgot to take pictures of some steps but here is the sequence.


Slide with scribe line, ready to snap using Q-tip dowel to push against.


Glass cut, ready to install.

I did this for all eight windows (The 8069 just have glass in the area of window 'closed' and I did not attempt to get exactly flush with mullions for them, too hard and won't be seen).

Let me stop and take a minute to discuss why I am using glass, especially on this kit. Frankly, contrary to what some of the guys who have been modeling for 40 years or more say, glass can be a pain in the you know what. The method of cutting each type of glass, microscope slide, slide cover and Clover glass are straight forward but there is a 'feel' that comes in to play knowing how much pressure is needed to etch the glass, snap it, and just using the scribe to cut the thin glass. There is a lot of failure, especially as you learn but I have a friend who is an MMR, super modeler and national contest judge. He told me he gets it right about 80% of the time. That's right 80%. Now I am talking about cutting glass so it fits right up against the mullions of the inside of the window. Cutting to fit across the window is easier. By the way, the scrap can really make a mess too so cleaning is important. I figure I get it right around 60% when I am shaping to fit against millions like this kit. Cutting just to fit the window section I am around 80%. So why use glass instead of plastic. It is much easier to see in person but I think I caught it in this photo:


Glass just adds something that can not be duplicated. You will see more, perhaps better photos shortly.



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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #153 on: October 05, 2020, 12:16:48 AM »
With the back done it was the front's turn. I had done some of the windows prior to putting the walls up but not all. Each window consists of 6 pieces and they are easy to lose once cut off the sheet, so I suggest keep them in a container and never let them out till needed. The windows were painted in the same scheme as the tower. Because the windows are large and the windows practically flush with the outer wall I simply cut microscope glass to fit the opening. If you have never tried to use glass but would like to try this is the perfect place to do it.





I used Canopy glue around edges to hold glass. The window frame will cover glue from showing.


For the two sides I changed out the frames supplied with square frames from a Bar Mills #1 kit. I thought they looked right for the sides. (Besides I had lost a few parts and was a window short, remember me saying keep the parts in a bin  ::))
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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #154 on: October 05, 2020, 12:24:17 AM »
OK so I am done talking about windows and glass. I am sure this kit would look great with the acetate glass provided and it sure would go faster but what the heck it was fun. So we are caught up and here we are:









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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #155 on: October 05, 2020, 12:33:57 AM »
Jim great job on those windows.  I've used glass before and your right it does make a difference in appearance.


I have about 30 windows to do in my mill so I've complating on using glass or something else.
But I might have to start with the glass an see how it works out.


Overall you've hit this one right on the head.


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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #156 on: October 05, 2020, 09:25:39 AM »
Awesome looking build Jim.
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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #157 on: October 16, 2020, 09:05:47 AM »
Hi Jerry;

Thanks for the comments and encouragement. The biggest issue I have with glass is it is time consuming and makes a mess. Still I love the look and for a building like this hotel it's worth the effort.

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Re: Bar Mills Cundy Village Hotel
« Reply #158 on: October 16, 2020, 09:07:48 AM »
Hi Curt;

Thanks for encouragement. It is a fun kit to build.

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