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Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« on: December 20, 2013, 10:27:49 PM »
Index to Volume 1 of the  Superior & Seattle Railroad Build Thread




Index to the thread Updated 3/21/17. 



                          INDEX


Page 1   Changing forums - the benchwork
Page 2   Overview and Status in March of 2014
Page 3   A look back at the Benchwork and Paster work on the mountains,
             Painting the Plaster work
             The Photo Back Drops
             Making Aspen Trees
Page 4    Making Pine Trees
              Preparing the Talus Materials
Page 5    Prototype Photographs
Page 6    Prototype Photographs
              Control Panel
Page 7    Layout Diagram "original plan"
              Roundhouse Photographs
              The Stone Roundhouse Build - start
Page 8    Stone Roundhouse Build - the walls
Page 9    Stone Roundhouse Build - the Roof
Page 10  Stone Roundhouse Build - Painting
Page 11  Laying more track
             Planning the town of Sellios
Page 12  Testing track
Page 13  First Runs - lower track
Page 14  Benchwork and Town layout - Sellios
Page 15  Benchwork and Town layout - Sellios
Page 16  Track work in Sellios
Page 17  Planning Structure Placement - Sellios
Page 18  Logo for the Superior & Seattle Railroad
Page 19  Cedar Shingle Pine Tree armatures
              Modeling in the Summer
Page 20  Roofing on the Stone Roundhouse
Page 21  Doors on the Stone Roundhouse
Page 22  More plaster work
Page 23  Installing the DCC System
Page 24  DCC System Discussion
Page 25  DCC System Installation
Page 26  DCC System Installation
Page 27  More track installation
Page 28  Track Testing
Page 29  Door production for the Stone Roundhouse
Page 30  Ballasting The Eagles Nest Yard
Page 31  Ballasting The Eagles Nest Yard
Page 32  Changes - moving mountains
Page 33  Adding some talus materials
Page 34  Stone Roundhouse Build - Tar Paper Roof
Page 35  Stone Roundhouse Build - Doors, Windows, Trim
Page 36  Planting Aspen Trees,
             prototype pictures Aspen Trees
Page 37  Stone Roundhouse Build Trim, Front Stone Work
             Pictures of Mountains with Fall Color
Page 38  The view through "Wayne's hole"
Page 39  Some overall room photographs of the layout
Page 40  Stone Roundhouse Build - Painting the trim
Page 41  Stone Roundhouse Build - Installing the Windows
Page 42  The A&I tube
Page 43  Stone Roundhouse Build - Painting the Roof
Page 44  Stone Roundhouse Build - Final pictures on the workbench
              Stone Roundhouse Build - Moving and installing on the layout
Page 45  Stone Roundhouse Build - Installation pictures
Page 46  Discussion of storage on the benchwork
Page 47  New - flex shaft rotary tool
Page 48  The Eagles Nest Yard
Page 49  Kit discussion
Page 50  Scenery on Mt. Aiden
Page 51  Mt. Aiden Trestle Build - bents
Page 52  Testing coloring for the Trestle
Page 53  Start of scenery on Mt. Aiden
Page 54  Progress pictures scenery on Mt. Aiden
Page 55  Surveying for the Trestle
             Stripwood for the Mt. Aiden Trestle
             Casting the footings for the Mt. Aiden Trestle
Page 56  Changes in the Mountains
Page 57  Coloring the trestle footings
Page 58  Mt. Aiden Scenery progress pictures
Page 59  Setting the footings for the Mt. Aiden Trestle
Page 60  Mt. Aiden Trestle Build first Bents
Page 61  Staining Stripwood
Page 62  Mt. Aiden Trestle Build
Page 63  Mt. Aiden Trestle Build
Page 64  Trestle Build progress pictures
Page 65  Trestle Build progress pictures
Page 66  Painting Bolt Castings
Page 67  Installing Bolt Castings - Mt. Aiden Trestle
Page 68  Cutting more strip wood
              Dealing with impatient forum members
Page 69  Adding retaining walls
Page 70  Trestle Build progress pictures
Page 71  Counting nut and bolt castings
Page 72  Mt. Aiden Trestle - the finishing process
Page 73  Adding Scenery to Mt. Aiden
Page 74  Building retaining wall for Mt. Aiden
              Pine Tree Production
Page 75  Dead Pine Trees
Page 75  The Brambell's Build Start - What's in the box
Page 76  Brambell's - Site preparation on the Layout
Page 77  Brambell's - Making Extra Castings
Page 78  Brambell's - Changing the site plan to fit my location on the layout.
Page 79  Brambell's - Making Molds
Page 80  Brambell's - Painting the castings
Page 81  Brambell's - Preparing the background scenery
Page 82  FSM Sawmill reconditioning for the S&S RR.
Page 83  Brambell's - Fitting castings to my site.
Page 84  Brambell's - Castings - lessons learned
Page 85  Brambell's - Painting the castings
Page 86  Brambell's - Testing the base with castings on the layout
Page 87  Brambell's - Detail castings - preparation for painting

             Brambell's - The warehouse walls
Page 88  New Tools
Page 89  Brambell's - Warehouse Assembly
Page 90  Brambell's - Painting the detail castings
             Brambell's - The wood retaining wall
Page 91  Brambell's - More Warehouse Assembly
Page 92  Brambell's - adding detail castings
Page 93  Brambell's - Warehouse Roof Construction
Page 94  Brambell's - Adding the Hoist House
              Brambell's - Adding the back deck
              Brambell's - A test fit on the layout
Page 95  Brambell's - Adding the ground cover
Page 96  Brambell's - Adding the Warehouse back shed
Page 97  Brambell's - More details
Page 98  Brambell's - Building the front deck
Page 99  Brambell's - Building the Trestle
Page 100 Brambell's - The cement wall
              Brambell's - The Trestle Deck
Page 101 Updating the index
Page 102 Brambell's - Rail Siding and Dock
              Adding more trees
Page 103 Brambell's Front Office
Page 104 Brambell's Scale and Scale House
Page 105 Brambell's Adding Dirt
              Brambell's Test Plant on Layout
Page 106 Changes, Dad's, and the old layout
Page 107 Working in the Mountain
Page 108 Brambell's The Details
Page 108 Brambell's Finish Pictures on the Workbench
Page 108 A clean workbench
Page 109 Chippy Hollow Build Start
Page 110 Another Trestle Build
Page 111 More Pine Tree Production
               Chippy Hollow Painting the wall castings
Page 112 Start of the Mt. Aiden Small Trestle
Page 112 Eagles Nest Hardware Build
Page 114 Track on the Mt. Aiden Trestle
Page 114 Chippy Hollow Build Progress
Page 115 Eagles Nest Warehouse Wall Castings
Page 116 Build Progress Eagles Nest Warehouse and Chippy Hollow
Page 117 Painting the Eagles Nest Warehouse Castings.
Page 118 Progress Report Small Trestle Build on Mt. Aiden.
Page 118 Layout Diagrams update
Page 119 Chippy Hollow Build update.
Page 120 Reusable Mold Material test.
Page 121 Trestle Build Progress.
Page 123 Final Pictures Mt. Aiden Trestle Build.
Page 124 Eagles Nest Warehouse Progress Report.
Page 126 Chippy Hollow Build Update
Page 128 Chippy Hollow Details
Page 128 Chippy Hollow become Walter P's
Page 129 The Staging Yard.

Page 130 The Control Panel Switch Panel.
Page 133 Eagles Next Warehouse - new paint and weathering.
Page 134 Start of the Jacob's Coal Build.
Page 136 Prototype Pictures from Greenfield Village
Page 137 Making room for the inside the mountain helix.
Page 138 Building the Helix.
Page 142 Making molds for plaster castings.
Page 143 More Aspen Trees
Page 146 Start of the C. C. Crow Stone Church Build
Page 147 Making room for the HOn3 Trestle
Page 148 Plans for the mountain top.
Page 148 Hidden Yard Build
Page 150 C. C. Crow Church Pictures
Page 153 Starting the HOn3 Trestle Builds
Page 155 Jacob's Coal Build Update
Page 157 Getting out the saw - more changes
Page 159 Using a Clay Mockups for design.
Page 162 The Start of the town of Sellios
Page 163 Sawmill placement.
Page 164 More on the Clay Mockup.
Page 167 Future Build Plans.
Page 169 The HOn3 Trestle Final Build Pictures.
Page 171 More Aspen Trees
Page 172 Moving on to Volume 2 of the S&S RR Build.
Page 172 See page 1 of Volume 2
« Last Edit: October 23, 2017, 12:29:29 PM by S&S RR »
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 10:33:01 PM »
Wish there was a way to get the first 20 some pages here
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 10:42:50 PM »
Me too!  I'm working on it. It will be a few weeks before I can devote much time to the move.
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2013, 07:49:04 AM »
John,

I'll be watching as well.

Tom :)
If you hate plan A, you are certainly not going to like plan B!

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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 01:37:29 PM »
Happy New Year!

I'm spending the day updating the financial plan and watching the Rose Bowl. Tomorrow I start the big push on the layout to get all the tracks installed and wired, the DCC installed, and trains running. I have decided that updating forum threads, and structure builds will be on hold until that is complete.
 ;D :)
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 07:34:07 PM »
I wanted to update everyone on the progress I've made on the Superior & Seattle.  I'm keeping to my plan of waiting until the track and electronics are completed before starting a new build thread.  To-date I have 40% of the track installed and wired.  Actually ran a few engines through the completed track work.  It is great to see so many layout threads getting started here.  I'm also looking forward to getting started on a new thread here soon - well depends on your definition of soon.  6 weeks = 40 % well you can do the math. 
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build (version 2.0)
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 08:27:29 PM »
It is time to get started with the Superior & Seattle RR build thread.

So how do you start over with a build thread when you had 5 years of history somewhere else?

I'm currently laying track and wiring the layout after completely starting over 5 years ago. The starting over consisted of tearing out all of the previous layout except the bench work. I decided that my new layout would be a mountain layout and so it is. It is a freelance Railroad that goes from Superior (the Upper Peninsula of Michigan) to Seattle through the prettiest mountains the builder could find along the way.  I just opened the 33rd 100 lb. bag of plaster.  Those of you that saw (version 1.0) have seen pictures of this process.  I will post the pictures of this process here as I complete each section of the new layout.

So as I was laying on my back wiring the layout today, I was thinking of how to get this new build thread started.  Since this is a build thread why not start with what I've been looking at the past six weeks - the foundation of the layout - the bench work.  This picture is one of the tunnels underneath the mountains of the layout. I'm taking the picture from about the middle of the tunnel so it is about 30 feet to the far wall.  It kinda looks and feels like a mine shaft. A few of the features I want to point out are; the false floor 4 inches above the cement basement floor and the floor drains, the conduit that carries the 110 volt power to the control panels, the double 2x4 posts every six feet (also, if necessary, I could cut the layout up in six foot sections to move it), and the wall outlets every 8 feet so I can plug in power tools. The layout is not attached to the walls.  All of the buss wires you see are number 12 wire.  The layout is wired for block control so it is very easy to locate any wiring problems by throwing switches at the control panels. Right now all the wires are loose, so I can get at them to connect the jumpers. I will bundle them after everything has been tested.



Why the false floor - the area underneath the layout is our storage area. If a pipe breaks in the house everything is off the floor.  I learned the hard way that this was necessary when a supply pipe in the bathroom decided to break.  Sidebar - if the builders used plastic supplies in your house replace them - they get brittle and break.

In my next post I will describe the water management system that I put in before I put 3300 pounds of plaster mountains underneath an upstairs laundry room, bathroom, and kitchen.
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build (version 2.0)
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 09:09:45 AM »
The area above my layout room has one inch of concrete and a ceramic tile floor for the laundry room, a bathroom, and the kitchen. If anything goes wrong with any of the equipment in these three rooms the water would end up running through the heating ducks and right on top of all my scenery.  So I installed 4 inch floor drains in each room upstairs and piped them through the mountain scenery which extends up to the ceiling. As you can see from the pictures the benchwork has been modified a number of times in this area.  The pipe in the pictures is for the  floor drain in the kitchen - it is right under the dish washer where it can not be seen.  The drain for the laundry room is under the washer, and in the bathroom it is piped off the floor mounted heating duct.
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2014, 09:28:02 AM »
Finally for today - my mode of travel underneath the layout.  My knees were getting real tired of crawling through the tunnels under the layout, so I built this cart to navigate through the maze of tunnels. I can position the back rest in any position, including a full laying on my back for the tight low ceiling areas. It doesn't have a Hemi, but it sure has made the wiring job much easier. The 5 inch wheels are the key to easy navigation. It is now time to get on that cart and get the wiring completed so I can get back to the structures and scenery.

« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 08:10:23 PM by S&S RR »
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2014, 10:25:42 PM »
Hey John, just make sure you don't doze off laying on that thing.   ;D



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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 07:48:14 AM »
I haven't seen that kind of under-layout view since the old TMRC layout in MIT's Building 20 was demolished.  We had little carts to roll around underneath to get at switches, relays and wiring.  We called them 'bunkies'.
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 08:21:50 AM »
James and Andy

Thanks for following the thread.  When I was in college I may have called the cart a "bunkie" and took a little snooze on it, but thanks to that college education I now have a better place to rest.  The cart sure has helped with the wiring of the layout.
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2014, 09:24:07 PM »
The attached layout drawing is a test.  When you click on the attachment do you get a nice big picture of my layout diagram?
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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 09:33:48 PM »
The attached layout drawing is a test.  When you click on the attachment do you get a nice big picture of my layout diagram? 
Got it - that's an awesome layout drawing!

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Re: Superior & Seattle Railroad Build
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2014, 09:42:59 PM »
The attached layout drawing is a test.  When you click on the attachment do you get a nice big picture of my layout diagram? 
Got it - that's an awesome layout drawing!

Thanks David - that's one. 
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