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Title: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Okay, the Atlantic and Southern build thread is now officially off and posting.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517123202.jpeg)



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 11, 2017, 01:57:11 PM
Great scene.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 11, 2017, 02:43:30 PM
i'll be looking in.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on May 11, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Tom,
           I'm with you!  Can't wait to see and learn more of the ACL & modeling an empire.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 05:12:33 PM
Great scene.


Curt,

Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
i'll be looking in.  ;)


Greg,

I hope so speedy! 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 05:14:10 PM
Tom,
           I'm with you!  Can't wait to see and learn more of the ACL & modeling an empire.  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

I appreciate the support. The empire building sure is fun these days.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
I started scratch building the lone Cracker House for the pine woods.

I found some scrap lap siding and drew one of the end walls on the back. I always draw and cut from the back when scratch building. This method lets the over cuts and pencil marks remain on the rear of the walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171007.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171007.jpeg)

After an hour or so I had the four walls sized and cut.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171020.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
I cut an opening for the front door and a double window  in the front wall section.

The back wall will be up against the photo backdrop so no back door or window.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171158.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171158.jpeg)

I then drew two horizontal lines on the back of the side wall. I don't remember why I did the bottom line but the top one is the same level as the front double window. I needed all the side walls to be the same height from the bottom as the one in front.

The horizontal line give me the reference for the bottom of the side windows.

I then drew three equally spaced vertical lines on the back of the side walls. These lines represent the center of the three side wall windows.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171033.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171033.jpeg)

Continued later this evening.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on May 11, 2017, 06:24:43 PM
Tom


Great scene to kickoff volume II.  Welcome to life after the lockup.  It's not to bad after you get use to it.  I have been going into my version 1 and unlocking - doing a  bump post and locking it back up when it drops down to the bottom of page 1.  I want to keep both volumes on the same page.  You may want to do the same thing.  I wonder if wonderful Mr. Jimmy D knows of a way of putting the locked close to 200 page threads on the top of page 1???


As always, I will be following along and learning.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
I cut the opening for the center window and made a test fit. It all is good up til now.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171047.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171047.jpeg)

I used the cut out plug as a template for the other two windows. I cut the other two openings and made a window test fit with those.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171101.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171101.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
Tom


Great scene to kickoff volume II.  Welcome to life after the lockup.  It's not to bad after you get use to it.  I have been going into my version 1 and unlocking - doing a  bump post and locking it back up when it drops down to the bottom of page 1.  I want to keep both volumes on the same page.  You may want to do the same thing.  I wonder if wonderful Mr. Jimmy D knows of a way of putting the locked close to 200 page threads on the top of page 1???


As always, I will be following along and learning.


John,

Thanks, I never thought I'd be locking myself up. ;D ;D ;D ;D  I still have the original handcuffs I was issued in October of 1973! Yes, they still work. Oh, that's another lock up and a story for another time.

I think bumping the old along with the new active thread is a good idea. I didn't want anyone to loose the continuity of following the thread. However, nor do I want to go through another crash.

I appreciate you following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
I used the first wall as a pattern to mark the window openings for the opposite wall section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171116.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171116.jpeg)



Fast forward and all openings are cut and all windows fit nice and snug.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171132.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171132.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 06:48:03 PM
I was waiting for the area around the pond to dry. I was bored and got carried away on bracing the back of the walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171145.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517171145.jpeg)

This last photo put me over the 3100 picture count in the A&S RR thread.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 11, 2017, 06:52:40 PM
Okay, I remember why I had the bottom pencil line. That was the line for the bottom of the front window, not the top line.

When I measured the height, the side windows sat to low on the side walls. I centered the side windows and the top pencil line was the "new" bottom of the side windows. Confused now!

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517184603.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517184603.jpeg)

Windows centered on the side walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517184615.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110517184615.jpeg)

I also forgot to mention I added the corner trim to the side walls as seen in the photo above.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 11, 2017, 08:30:13 PM
Great work Tom. You have inspired me to scratch build a structure to replace one in the roundhouse area of my layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 12, 2017, 07:50:16 AM
Great work Tom. You have inspired me to scratch build a structure to replace one in the roundhouse area of my layout.


Curt,

Thank you. Scratch building is fun and gives you something no one else can go out and purchase. If you need any help just let me know.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on May 12, 2017, 09:35:11 AM
I'm very happy to say that I'm lucky to get to view this masterpiece up close and in person.  I dropped in last night to check out the recent progress and can guarantee that it looks just as magnificent in person as it does in the pictures and videos.   :D   
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on May 12, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
Tom, you Sir are the


(http://chrispiascik.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1940-20150729-Master.gif)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 04:50:14 PM
Donato,

You are very kind to me. Thank you for the support.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 04:51:50 PM
Here's a new short video of the Seaboard Orange Blossom Special.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-JYe2TT-U
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 05:06:47 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
The Judge and I also did this one this afternoon. He must have been in a hurry or behind schedule. The fast start probably spilled all the coffee in the diner. I held tight to my Diet Pepsi and lost nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRn0J60PMfc
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 13, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle.  ::) :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle.  ::) :D


Greg,

His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on May 13, 2017, 06:36:33 PM
Tom,
            Excellent work & video shooting my friend!  You are truly a well rounded do it all yourself modeler, like all the greats back in the day!  I'm glad the rest of the planet now can see what you & the judge look at everyday.  Including the older layout pics & footage too!  Very nice Sir!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on May 13, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.

Tom ;D

I'd love to see you do mosquito's  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on May 13, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.

Tom ;D

I'd love to see you do mosquito's  ;) ;) ;)
It's Florida, mosquitoes come for free... 


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 14, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle.  ::) :D


Greg,

His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.

Tom ;D


Gotta get points for trying..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle.  ::) :D


Greg,

His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.

Tom ;D


Gotta get points for trying..... ;D ;D ;D


Okay, a point for trying and a point for the admission of running Greg Speed.

T 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
I mentioned in an earlier post I poured to much Murky Water in the sink hole. The resin leached into the surrounding scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182430.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182430.jpeg)


To cover this, I painted some white glue around the water's edge and covered the area that showed wet.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182445.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2017, 06:41:21 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182523.jpeg)


To represent lily pads, I used a scenery product from NOCH. I used the medium green leaf material and sprinkled it on the white glue. This is what I used.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182538.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182538.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517183530.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517183530.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 16, 2017, 06:44:35 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182555.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182555.jpeg)


After the glue dried, I used a soft brush to move the excess material off the water surface.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182609.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182609.jpeg)

I go back and add more weeds and bushes around the water in the next few days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 16, 2017, 07:23:58 PM
Looks great Tom. Before you brushed it off it kinda looked like duck weed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on May 17, 2017, 07:19:38 AM
Wow, the scene just keeps looking better and better. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 05:40:18 PM
Looks great Tom. Before you brushed it off it kinda looked like duck weed.


Curt,

Thank you. Yes, it does look like duck weed. I'll have more later this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 05:41:01 PM
Wow, the scene just keeps looking better and better.


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciated. I look forward to your visit in June.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 05:50:47 PM
While some scenery was drying, I went back to the Cracker house build.

I forgot to mention I used the small ponce wheel from Micro Mark to add nail holes.


I stained the walls with a light coat of Hunterline Driftwood stain.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182623.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182623.jpeg)

While waiting for the walls to dry, I painted the door and windows with Polly Scale Reefer White. I didn't  worry to much about covering them with the paint. I left the paint streaky for represent paint peel. When the Polly Scale paint was dry I dipped them in Hunterline Medium Gray and set them on a napkin to dry.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182637.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182637.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
When the walls were dry of the A&I stain, I painted them with Floquil Reefer White. I dipped the brush in the paint and then dipped the tip of the brush in some clean thinner and "stained" the walls with the thinned white paint.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182651.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182651.jpeg)

If you haven't noticed, the wall with no door or window opening is upside down. Meaning the lap siding is upside down. When cutting the rear wall, I failed to ensure the lap siding was correct. The good news is I'm sharing my blunder and greater news is that the rear wall is just that, a rear wall. It won't be seen from the isle or by any visitor. Now, if John Siekirk comes over with his stick camera, he may be able to get a shot of the rear wall. ;D ;D ;D




(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182705.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
I was up at 5 this morning, another restless night with little sleep. Where are all the sheep that are supposed to be jumping over the fence?

Anyway, I got a couple of hours of scenery done prior to the Judge arriving.

I added a few more trees and shrubs/undergrowth around the area of the murky pond.

Before:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182609.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160517182609.jpeg)

After:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181005.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181005.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181026.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181026.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
I also added more trees and undergrowth to the rear of Delwin's Boat and Net Storage.

Before:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110417185039.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110417185039.jpeg)

After:

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181105.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181105.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181121.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181121.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 06:20:41 PM
A couple of freebies.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181046.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181046.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181136.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on May 17, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
Tom,
       Your modeling skills are second to none! I just love it.  What do you think, should I tell George you're on way to give him a hand to touch his layout?  ;)  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 17, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
Tom,
       Your modeling skills are second to none! I just love it.  What do you think, should I tell George you're on way to give him a hand to touch his layout?  ;)  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

You are most kind and your compliment is very much appreciated. Tell Mr. Sellios I'd love to go and help but I need him down here to help me finish for the July 30th NMRA meet. ;) ;) ;)


However, I'll be there for the next Baastan area Expo.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2017, 07:52:09 PM
Truly outstanding Tom. Everything is perfect and life like.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on May 19, 2017, 07:41:27 AM
This keeps getting better and better!  I love the additions to the pond area since I last saw it.   :D  :D  :D

I was playing some of you videos on the TV the other night (they look great on a big screen by the way) and Eileen was watching them with me.  She did say "Where are the little people?  You need little people."   ;D  ;D  I told her to be patient.  They're coming.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 19, 2017, 11:50:34 AM
Tom,
 One A&S thread is a lonely number, a second A&S thread is a happy number... ;)...Everything you do on your layout is 5 stars. !!! The videos are really neat to watch too... 8) 8) 8)...Glad you are back on track again and working on your layout and everything went well. Look forward to more outstanding modeling on this new thread.
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 02:16:40 PM
Truly outstanding Tom. Everything is perfect and life like.


Curt,

As always, thanks very much. I'm getting closer to the look I'm after.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 02:17:05 PM
This keeps getting better and better!  I love the additions to the pond area since I last saw it.   :D :D :D

I was playing some of you videos on the TV the other night (they look great on a big screen by the way) and Eileen was watching them with me.  She did say "Where are the little people?  You need little people."   ;D ;D  I told her to be patient.  They're coming.   ;)


Bob,

Thank you, much appreciated. I'll haven't watched any of the videos on the big screen but I'll try this evening.

Tell your lovely wife the little "people" are coming to a layout near you. ;D ;D

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 02:23:33 PM
Tom,
 One A&S thread is a lonely number, a second A&S thread is a happy number... ;) ...Everything you do on your layout is 5 stars. !!! The videos are really neat to watch too... 8) 8) 8) ...Glad you are back on track again and working on your layout and everything went well. Look forward to more outstanding modeling on this new thread.
Tommy


Tommy,

Your very generous compliment is very much appreciated, thank you.

I'm very happy to be back in the layout room. The three months off was driving me crazy, but considering the options, three months was not a problem at all.

I'm still in recovery mode but able to do all the good stuff on the layout.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 02:28:54 PM
The Judge made arrangements for the Pensacola Zephyr to run on A&S RR tracks. We spotted it coming through the piney woods after crossing the bascule bridge in the Suwannee River Lagoon area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLuEyw8b0u4
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:11:24 PM
The PZ made a quick station stop and we learned from the Rio Grande engineer that their B unit was left in Jacksonville for repairs.

This engineer was much smoother in his departure than most others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyaEko6f8PE
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
Back to the Cracker House -

I glued the four walls together. I added weights to keep it level on the work bench. I've noticed in the past a structure can get just slightly out of square. I think this is caused by the glue drying and pulling on the walls enough to just make a slight "off square" structure.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181205.jpeg)

The weights worked or maybe not but the house is square.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170517181149.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
I added gallery glass to the door and windows. When dry I painted on a few blinds. These folks can't afford curtains.

I then glued the door and window in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134407.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134407.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134428.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134428.jpeg)

Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:33:04 PM
I decided to add an attic window. This was a little tricksie as the back of the front wall was already braced and the house walls were glued together.

I'll spare ya'll the nasty details but I got it cut in.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134522.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134522.jpeg)

I painted this small window as I did the others.

I also added the first set of exterior rafters. These are right up next to the outside of the wall. I did the front and rear. The rafters were left long and will be cut to adjust to the roof over hang.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134535.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134535.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 19, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Nice Zephyr videos.  I think the train would look better with the CB&Q units pulling it.  Just sayin'.   ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:39:51 PM
Nice Zephyr videos.  I think the train would look better with the CB&Q units pulling it.  Just sayin'.   ;D


Jeff


Jeff,

Thank you, much appreciated. I can make CB&Q units happen. Come back tomorrow afternoon and check out. Just sayin'. 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
I cut a piece of cardboard to fit the roof. I allowed for 18" of roof over hang on the front and rear. I did cut a piece with a 24" front/rear over hang but it didn't look good on this small structure.

I scored the roof deck in the center.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134504.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134504.jpeg)

I braced the roof and painted the underside Floquil Reefer White to match the rest of the house.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151813.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151813.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
One half of the roof was glued and then the other.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134549.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151828.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:45:04 PM
I then glued a frame to the front to support the front porch 2X6's.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151844.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151844.jpeg)

I stained some HO scale 2X6's and glued them in place on the front porch area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151903.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517151903.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
I forgot to mention I glued some HO scale 2X10's to the underside of the house. The 2X10's will give me a better base for gluing on support posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134444.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190517134444.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 19, 2017, 06:02:28 PM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.

As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:49:10 AM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.

As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?


Curt,

Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.

It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 20, 2017, 07:04:52 AM
Nice work on your cracker house.  I have been wondering if it is the Ritz cracker house?  Inquiring minds, and all that...or maybe I'm just easily amused.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 07:52:01 AM
Nice work on your cracker house.  I have been wondering if it is the Ritz cracker house?  Inquiring minds, and all that...or maybe I'm just easily amused.


Jerry,

Thank you for the compliment on the cracker house.

Ritz cracker house, good one. I guess Ritz is better than having a Saltine cracker house. ;D ;D ;D


I've been working on the porch posts and railings.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on May 20, 2017, 08:00:18 AM
Hi Tom


I stopped by and got caught up on your layout progress this morning. Very nice modeling. The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued is off to a running start - looking good my friend.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Mkrailway on May 20, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
Tom, the pond area turned out very nice, however, you are missing a Gator lurking around. Also, you need to stop making those structures from looking too perfect; it is making the rest of use look bad.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2017, 10:10:52 AM
Thanks Tom, I will give you a call next week.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on May 20, 2017, 11:16:48 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D

Leave it to Greg 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on May 20, 2017, 11:55:18 AM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.

As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?


Curt,

Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.

It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.

Tom ;D

It you'd like I can drop off the Micro Mark Corner Punch so you can take it for a test run and see how it compares to what you're doing now.   :D 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
Hi Tom


I stopped by and got caught up on your layout progress this morning. Very nice modeling. The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued is off to a running start - looking good my friend.


John,

I thank you for the kind words on the layout, much appreciated. I also appreciate you following along on this adventure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:04:55 PM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D


Greg,



Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Tom, the pond area turned out very nice, however, you are missing a Gator lurking around. Also, you need to stop making those structures from looking too perfect; it is making the rest of use look bad.


Marty,

Thank you and thanks very much for the kind compliment. I love working on the layout but structure building is at the top of the list for me.

The smaller Baker's Country Store is the kit I did a build thread for Jimmy D. It's still on the old forum.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Thanks Tom, I will give you a call next week.


Curt,

Sounds good, if I don't answer I'll call you back. I have many 1:1 yard projects going on next week. However, I'll be here all week.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:10:46 PM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D

Leave it to Greg 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim


Jim,

Not to worry, I left him a pithy comment!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.

As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?


Curt,

Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.

It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.

Tom ;D

It you'd like I can drop off the Micro Mark Corner Punch so you can take it for a test run and see how it compares to what you're doing now.   :D


Bob,

That would be great if not out of your way. That is one tool I still need to get. I'm still using the #11 Xacto blades.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
As mentioned, The Pensacola Zephyr with CB&Q A-B-A F2 motive power was leased by the Atlantic and Southern RR.

Notice the difference in the sound? These three Burlington units still have the Tsunami Sound and need to be converted to TCS WOW Sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxH_vk4IIGs


I have a couple more videos of normal A&S RR motive power. I'll get them uploaded later this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 20, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr!    ;D  Thanks, Tom!


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr!    ;D  Thanks, Tom!


Jeff


Jeff,

You are very welcome sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 03:24:53 PM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D


Greg,



Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D

Tom 8)


Will do.....but, I'll look for it on sale.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 03:26:47 PM
Gotta love that Zephyr..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on May 20, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr!    ;D  Thanks, Tom!


Jeff




Having lived in P-cola for many years myself, I agree with Doctor J. ;D     Good video Tom,   Go Judge!!!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
This will be the penultimate video I'll be doing until the end of June. I need to concentrate on getting the land form, farm, orange grove, etc. finished.

The videos are fun but take time. The Judge and I always seem to have 4 takes until we get one we like.

So, that said, here is the next to the last one until after we have oranges on the trees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYhUiDBNNS8




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz?  ;D


Greg,



Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D

Tom 8)


Will do.....but, I'll look for it on sale.  ;D




 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
Gotta love that Zephyr..... 8)


I agree, I do like it better than the Rio Grande.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr!    ;D  Thanks, Tom!


Jeff


Thom,

Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the P-cola Zephyr is most definitely better.

Tom ;D





Having lived in P-cola for many years myself, I agree with Doctor J. ;D     Good video Tom,   Go Judge!!!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
The last video for at least 6 weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY43vqH2PkQ
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
Today I finished the porch posts and railings. I then added the porch roof (not glue in place yet) so it is a little off level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175121.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175121.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175137.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175137.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:05:02 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175153.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175209.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
Here is where it will be placed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180037.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180050.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:07:11 PM
Perfect, right behind the trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180105.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517180105.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:11:19 PM
While finishing details on the cracker house, station and other small details I'll start working on the next section of the layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175352.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200517175352.jpeg)

This is where I'll have a small farm house, barn, orange grove and some cattle. The track will run between a sand hill cut with a road across and above the tracks.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on May 20, 2017, 06:41:23 PM
This house will make a great looking scene where you have placed it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2017, 08:25:54 PM
Great looking videos. I could imagine sitting in a car on the road waiting on the train. The building looks as good as any kit you could buy of that house...if it wasn't a one of a kind.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Mkrailway on May 21, 2017, 08:51:04 AM
Tom, the structure looks very good in that location and reminds me of many houses along the back roads of Florida. Would you consider adding a second one beside it?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2017, 05:27:29 PM
This house will make a great looking scene where you have placed it.


Steve,

Thank you. I placed it there based on a picture in one of my ACL books. I like the location also.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Great looking videos. I could imagine sitting in a car on the road waiting on the train. The building looks as good as any kit you could buy of that house...if it wasn't a one of a kind.


Curt,

Thanks for stopping by the thread and the compliment on the house. The cracker house is just a scratch build to fit the area. I like it back in the trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
Tom, the structure looks very good in that location and reminds me of many houses along the back roads of Florida. Would you consider adding a second one beside it?


Marty,

Thank you, much appreciated. I can't tell you how many of these cracker houses I saw back in the 50's here in the sunshine state as well as Southern Georgia.

I did consider adding a second house here but decided not to as I'm modeling from a picture of the area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 21, 2017, 05:39:50 PM
The picture was taken in May of 1949 in Ruskin, FL. Ruskin is located between Tampa and Bradenton.

There is still plenty of brown from the winter months.

One small rural station, one water tank, one cracker shack and a small structure behind the water tank. I can only assume the hidden structure is some kind of tool shed.

The Atlantic and Southern is set in the late Summer/Fall time so all is very green and healthy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210517173309.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210517173309.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on May 21, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Tom,
  Excellent layout pic, you really got the knack on the scenery.  Hey how did you get the steam on your locomotive?  Did you airbrush on a piece of glass?  Keep'em coming.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 21, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
Is the water tank square, or is that just the photo perspective Tom?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2017, 08:54:23 PM
Tom,
  Excellent layout pic, you really got the knack on the scenery.  Hey how did you get the steam on your locomotive?  Did you airbrush on a piece of glass?  Keep'em coming.  KP-out...


KPI,

You are one funny guy. The smoke is from the loco! ;)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 22, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Is the water tank square, or is that just the photo perspective Tom?


Curt,

the water tank is round full at the bottom and tapered towards the top. It is round, the light is playing games.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on May 24, 2017, 07:39:22 AM
Tom,
This scene is really coming together.  You've definitely captured the look/feel of the photo you posted.  Nice build of the Cracker house!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on May 24, 2017, 07:45:31 AM
Hi Tom:

It's looking great as usual.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Judge on May 24, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Good morning all!  This is my first post.  By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years.  I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR.  Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent.  That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.

Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:

The term “Florida cracker” refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period.  They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they “cracked” during cattle drives.  Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.

This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today.  The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.

"The Judge"
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on May 24, 2017, 09:24:13 AM
Good morning all!  This is my first post.  By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years.  I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR.  Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent.  That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.

Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:

The term “Florida cracker” refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period.  They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they “cracked” during cattle drives.  Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.

This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today.  The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.

"The Judge"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k   


Welcome, your honor!



dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2017, 09:25:07 AM
Good morning all!  This is my first post.  By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years.  I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR.  Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent.  That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.

Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:

The term “Florida cracker” refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period.  They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they “cracked” during cattle drives.  Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.

This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today.  The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.

"The Judge"


Well now, let me be the first, er second to welcome "The Judge" to the forum. We all know the wheels of justice turn slow, but they do turn. I only took the Judge the better part of 5 years to post the first of his many coming posts.

Welcome to the forum Judge.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2017, 09:27:00 AM
Tom,
This scene is really coming together.  You've definitely captured the look/feel of the photo you posted.  Nice build of the Cracker house!


Mark,

Thank you, it was a lot of fun pulling the scenery together.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 24, 2017, 09:27:56 AM
Hi Tom:

It's looking great as usual.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, much appreciated as always.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 24, 2017, 09:56:41 AM
Welcome to the forum Bill.....glad to see you posting.....keep 'em coming :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 24, 2017, 10:19:38 AM
Welcome to the forum Judge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on May 24, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
Welcome to the Forum Bill (THE JUDGE).  I think you and I have been friends for almost as long.  It is always good to have someone whose Birthday is the day before mine (cause that means you are OLDER).

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on May 24, 2017, 12:37:39 PM
Judging by everyone's reaction, I too welcome you Judge!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on May 24, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Welcome to the Forum Judge.  Just a bunch of old farts sitting around swapping lies and playing with their toys.  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on May 24, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
Welcome to the Judge...hope to see you soon


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on May 25, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Yes, welcome to the Judge!   :)  Does this mean we all have to rise when he posts to a thread?   ;)

The scenery is top notch Tom.  I'm sure looking forward to seeing what you do with the next section.  :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 25, 2017, 03:09:26 PM
Yes, welcome to the Judge!   :)  Does this mean we all have to rise when he posts to a thread?   ;)

The scenery is top notch Tom.  I'm sure looking forward to seeing what you do with the next section.  :D


Bob,

Thanks for the compliment on the scenery. I'm building the landscape for the new section now. I'll have some posts to add to the thread probably tomorrow night.

You can stand when you see his post if you so desire. Me? Naw. At least he doesn't carry the gavel with him.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 25, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on May 26, 2017, 11:20:55 AM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.


No need to twist my (our) arm(s) .... I (we) believe you!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on May 26, 2017, 11:45:51 AM
Good morning all!  This is my first post.  By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years.  I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR.  Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent.  That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.

Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:

The term “Florida cracker” refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period.  They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they “cracked” during cattle drives.  Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.

This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today.  The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.

"The Judge"


I want to extend a special welcome to "The Judge".  Great to have you posting on the forum.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.


Curt,

Thank you very much, you are too kind.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 27, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.


No need to twist my (our) arm(s) .... I (we) believe you!!!


Donato,

You are too kind as well. Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
I got tired on the work on the cracker house and rural station. So I moved on for a few days and started adding the land forms/sand hills for the farm area on Baker's Curve.

Farmer Perkins was a stubborn old man. He said the A&S RR could go through his farm but not under it. A few million cubic yards of dirt were removed and the A&S has paid dearly for the right of way at Baker's Curve.

I used the 1/4" pink foam as a base just as I did in the piney woods.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133350.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133350.jpeg)

The pink foam was used as a pattern to cut the 1/2" blue foam.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133404.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133404.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
I used three layers of the blue foam making the height at 1 3/4" through the cut. Each successive piece of blue foam was cut smaller than the last. They were glued together and sanded at the desired angle.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133420.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133420.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133437.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133437.jpeg)

I'm not concerned about the crooked blue foam. It will be sanded further and receive a coat or two of spackle to smooth out the cut.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2017, 01:45:06 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133454.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133602.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 28, 2017, 01:45:27 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280517133617.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 28, 2017, 04:09:04 PM
Looking good Tom. I can't wait to see your farm in place.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on May 28, 2017, 06:18:03 PM
Thanks for showing this step by step Tom , I have a couple of scenes like this coming up on my layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on May 28, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
Interesting, very interesting.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on May 29, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Looking good Tom.  You make it look so easy.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on May 29, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
Tom,
Thanks for your continuing inspirational narratives.
What do you use to join the layers of blue foam together, please?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2017, 09:31:57 AM
Looking good Tom. I can't wait to see your farm in place.


Curt,

Thanks as always. I'm really very excited about this new cut through area. I'll share what plans I have later.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2017, 09:33:37 AM
Thanks for showing this step by step Tom , I have a couple of scenes like this coming up on my layout.






Jan,

You are very welcome. Sharing what I'm doing keeps me motivated to keep moving forward.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2017, 09:34:59 AM
Interesting, very interesting.

Jim


Jim,

Yes, it is. Stay tuned. I plan to have this area finished by the end of June, meaning next month.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Looking good Tom.  You make it look so easy.


Mark,

Thank you, much appreciated. It is easy some times and other times I wonder to myself what the H--l are you doing Tom?

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 29, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
Tom,
Thanks for your continuing inspirational narratives.
What do you use to join the layers of blue foam together, please?


Chip,

You are most welcome. I appreciate you and the many others that follow along on the adventure.

The 1/4" pink and 1/2" blue foam are all glued with Elmer's White Glue. The pink foam is glued to the plywood with the white glue also. The glue doesn't attack the foam and it works really well.  Sorry, I should have mentioned it in the narrative.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on May 29, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
OH boy more heavy road work.  Tom you must have been an engineer/contractor in your former life! Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on May 29, 2017, 07:20:04 PM
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Builder (of the Layout),
He is trampling out the vintage where the Plywood Flat was stored,
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His X-Acto Knife and Glue.
The Build is marching on".

Sorry for the paraphrasing, but I could not resist.

Great Job Tom

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on May 30, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
Continuing with the musical theme.....

Over hill, over dale.....

Looking good Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on May 30, 2017, 09:38:26 AM
As long I don't hit the dusty trail!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 05:51:28 PM
The blue foam was continued around Baker's Curve.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160512.jpeg)

I made a few sanding adjustments and created some new blue ballast. 8) 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160526.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
I forgot to mention on each side of the foam is a very thin sheet of a paper like film.

You can pull it off or leave it. It glues together all the same. I've done it both ways.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160541.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160541.jpeg)

The foam piece from the photo above was then glued in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160556.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160556.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 05:57:40 PM
More sanding and blue ballast.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160610.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160610.jpeg)

All foam is in place and vacuumed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160626.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160626.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 06:00:05 PM
I added two pieces in the corner for elevation of the trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160656.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160656.jpeg)

The train looks good through the cut at Baker's Curve.



(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160719.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160719.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160737.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160737.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 06:02:49 PM
I covered the track and will start the process of covering the foam with spackle to form the sides and slopes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160805.jpeg)

Spackle was added here to bring the slope from the river to the top level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160750.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160750.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 01, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
I took this picture from one of my ACL books. This is the look I'm going for the next area of development, ie, the farm area.

The piney woods area I did is about 13 ft. in length. This next area is 15 1/2 ft. in length.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010617160824.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 01, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Great work  Tom. I like the idea of working from a prototypical scene. It's going to look awesome when it's done.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on June 01, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Hi Tom,

I like the progress that you have been making on your layout.  It is looking very nice.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 02, 2017, 08:33:08 AM
"The hills are alive....."  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on June 02, 2017, 09:20:10 AM
I like the concept for the new area.  It's going to look great.  I can't wait to see Greg highballing  freight train through there.  You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 02, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
I like the concept for the new area.  It's going to look great.  I can't wait to see Greg highballing  freight train through there.  You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed.   ;)

Greg Speed thru the Farmland

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 02, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
I like the concept for the new area.  It's going to look great.  I can't wait to see Greg highballing  freight train through there.  You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed.   ;)

Greg Speed thru the Farmland

Jim


The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:06:34 PM
OH boy more heavy road work.  Tom you must have been an engineer/contractor in your former life! Jim


Jim,

Yes, I've hauled my share of filth - in the squad car. 8) 8)


Thanks for checking in.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:09:31 PM
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Builder (of the Layout),
He is trampling out the vintage where the Plywood Flat was stored,
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His X-Acto Knife and Glue.
The Build is marching on".

Sorry for the paraphrasing, but I could not resist.

Great Job Tom

Jim


Jim,

There was a guy named Jim, I don't know what to do with him.
He wrote a nice poem, now I guess I owe 'em.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:10:58 PM
Great work  Tom. I like the idea of working from a prototypical scene. It's going to look awesome when it's done.


Curt,

It helps to have a picture of what I want done. I need to as my head is too full of a bazillion other ideas.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:11:44 PM
Hi Tom,

I like the progress that you have been making on your layout.  It is looking very nice.


Steve,

Thanks very much. I hope this area goes a smoothly as the piney woods.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:13:16 PM
I like the concept for the new area.  It's going to look great.  I can't wait to see Greg highballing  freight train through there.  You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed.   ;)


Bob,

Much appreciated, thank you. I ran a train through the sand hills and it is really going to be a nice scene.

Greg, I on a limited throttle pass at this time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
I like the concept for the new area.  It's going to look great.  I can't wait to see Greg highballing  freight train through there.  You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed.   ;)

Greg Speed thru the Farmland

Jim


Jim,

Greg needs to be reprogrammed. Just like a loco. Next time he is over, the Judge and I will put him on the program track and push a few commands.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:16:11 PM


The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D


I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
I've been adding spackle to the sides of the blue foam. So far I've used 3/4 of a gallon. For those living on Longwood, that's 3 quarts.

Just saying.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150331.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150331.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:20:25 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150357.jpeg)




The spackle on the upper right still needs to be smoothed out.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150345.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040617150345.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 04, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
I believe that it's Bithlo you might thinking of, not Longwood.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 04, 2017, 04:55:24 PM


The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D


I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o


Tom 8)


I'll explain it to you the next time we go for pig.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 04, 2017, 04:58:57 PM
Tom, you are flying along with the landscaping (I couldn't resist). I'm psychic...it's going to be fantastic looking when you're done with it .  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 05, 2017, 03:18:00 PM


The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D


I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o


Tom 8)


I'll explain it to you the next time we go for pig.  ;D


(http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/image_11327.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 06, 2017, 11:25:26 AM
Tom, you are flying along with the landscaping (I couldn't resist). I'm psychic...it's going to be fantastic looking when you're done with it .  ;D


Curt,

Thanks for checking in. I'm almost finished flying along on this section.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 06, 2017, 11:27:06 AM



(http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/image_11327.jpg) (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/image_11327.jpg)


Donato,

I see you found my photo! ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on June 06, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Looking really good Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 06, 2017, 12:46:06 PM
Mark,

Thanks very much. BTW, I did respond to the PM but I guess it got lost like my thread a few months back.

Let me know if you don't get a reply in the PM.

Tom ;D


407-896-5796

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 08, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Yesterday the Judge and I added new layout fascia to the farm area. We used the table saw outside and ripped a few 8 ft. pieces of Masonite/hardboard in 6 inch widths. We then screwed the fascia in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070617125601.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070617125601.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 08, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070617125743.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 08, 2017, 04:25:50 PM
Once the fascia was in place, I added spackle to the area that was against the inside of the fascia.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070617125638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070617125638.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg)

Now I can start the process of adding sand to the sloped areas.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 08, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
Coming along nicely Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 08, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
super, just super my friend.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 02:11:12 PM
Coming along nicely Tom.


Curt,

Thank you sir, much appreciated. I'll have a little more this afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 02:11:46 PM
super, just super my friend.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Much appreciated, thank you!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Today I started adding the base ground scenery to the South side of the Tahope River area. I won't go into any detail as it is all in Part 1 of the A&S RR thread.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165616.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165616.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
A little fast forward here and this is where I stopped. I'll explain why in the next post.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165633.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165633.jpeg)

What you see above is actually two layers of my base scenery.

When this dries I plan on adding two additional layers of ground scenery prior to any trees and bushes being added.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
Those of you that know me and better yet, know my history, know I have no qualms about ripping a part or all the layout out! Call me Mr. Redo but if I don't like it or think it doesn't look correct, out it comes and there it goes.

I decided that I didn't like the way the wall side of the sand hill looked when compared to the inside sand hill.

You guessed it, out it came.

I used the long bladed knife to reshape the hill/slope.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165646.jpeg)

The spackle is vinyl. When I cut the foam I was able to remove the spackle in pieces, many, many pieces.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165702.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:27:29 PM

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165715.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165715.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165728.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165728.jpeg)
After I got the basic shape to my satisfaction, I used course 50 grit aluminum oxide sandpaper on a 1X4 block and started sanding.

When I was finished, I couldn't see the track in places.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:30:10 PM

I cleaned up the area and got all the blue foam dust off the track and layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165802.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165818.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165818.jpeg)


Don't know if the new slope is visible but it is better and now I'm satisfied.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
A new coat of spackle was added to the new slope.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165831.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165831.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165843.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165843.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 09, 2017, 05:31:49 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165856.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 10, 2017, 07:18:58 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


Bill,

Sounds good to me, in and out. While at the University of Florida we went to a local burger joint called, Yep, The In and Out. It was drive through only.

I appreciate the support, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 10, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 10, 2017, 11:51:04 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D

Not on you life.......

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 10, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
(http://aht.seriouseats.com/images/2009-11-10-In-N-Out-Collage.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:32:34 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D


Oh, come on. Where is your sense of adventure?

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:33:27 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D

Not on you life.......

Jim


Getting timid in our advanced age are we?

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:35:28 AM
(http://aht.seriouseats.com/images/2009-11-10-In-N-Out-Collage.jpg) (http://aht.seriouseats.com/images/2009-11-10-In-N-Out-Collage.jpg)


Donato,

Yepper, that's the one. The good ole In-N-Out Burger joint. The we had at the University of Florida didn't have a walk up window.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:44:04 AM
Yesterday, The Judge and I had Greg run a steam loco around the layout. We told him not to go over 25 MPH on the throttle. He said he would give it a try.

I had a picture of Greg at the throttle but I accidentally deleted the photo.To his credit he did in fact run the SAL steamer #492 around layout one time. His knees and hands were shaking so bad he needed to lean up against the bench work to steady himself.

No sooner did he get the steamer back to the station, that throttle went to 40 MPH+. In Greg's own words, "I did it for one lap but just couldn't keep my fingers from turning the throttle higher."

Ya just can't teach old dogs new tricks.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 11, 2017, 08:33:54 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill


I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D

Not on you life.......

Jim

Getting timid in our advanced age are we?

Tom 8)


Oh yeah..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on June 11, 2017, 08:35:48 AM
Tom


I just got caught up on your build thread - as always great work.  The proper term for re-do's is Engineering Changes. Every time I have one on the S&S RR - and the boss says you spend most of your time tearing things out - I point to two pictures I have of the F&SM taken 10 years apart.  George took out a whole mountain range. It just part of the hobby. If you can't find a better way the second time your not getting better. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 11, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
Yesterday, The Judge and I had Greg run a steam loco around the layout. We told him not to go over 25 MPH on the throttle. He said he would give it a try.

I had a picture of Greg at the throttle but I accidentally deleted the photo.To his credit he did in fact run the SAL steamer #492 around layout one time. His knees and hands were shaking so bad he needed to lean up against the bench work to steady himself.

No sooner did he get the steamer back to the station, that throttle went to 40 MPH+. In Greg's own words, "I did it for one lap but just couldn't keep my fingers from turning the throttle higher."

Ya just can't teach old dogs new tricks.


What an experience.....it took a couple of hours rest and a Diet Pepsi to recover from the ordeal when I got home.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 11, 2017, 11:19:21 AM

What an experience.....it took a couple of hours rest and a Diet Pepsi to recover from the ordeal when I got home.  ;D


I am still holding my breath waiting for the other shoe to drop, and find that Greg has been committed.  :o :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 12:45:59 PM
Tom


I just got caught up on your build thread - as always great work.  The proper term for re-do's is Engineering Changes. Every time I have one on the S&S RR - and the boss says you spend most of your time tearing things out - I point to two pictures I have of the F&SM taken 10 years apart.  George took out a whole mountain range. It just part of the hobby. If you can't find a better way the second time your not getting better. Keep up the great work.


John,

Thanks very much for stopping by and for the kind compliment.

I worked for a road construction company after college. I was waiting to be accepted as a rookie on the Orlando Police Dept. It was March of 1972 when I got the road construction job. I was put on a grease truck. My job was to change the oil and grease all the Road Graders, Bull Dozers, Drag Lines and anything else that needed oil or lube.

They called me a Preventive Maintenance Engineer. However, I told them they paid me like a grease monkey. I made $3.25 an hour. ;D ;D ;D


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 12:53:12 PM
This morning I started adding the dirt to the sides of the sand hills.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123540.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123540.jpeg)

For information on how I did this you can follow it in the link listed below.

http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/1695/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/1695/)

The link is from my Part 1 of the Atlantic and Southern Build Thread. I locked the first part as I was quickly approaching 200 pages. The last time I reached page 200, the server crashed and I lost almost 3 years of thread information.

You can view the old thread but will not be able to respond/post a comment to the old Part 1. Any comments or questions you may have can be posted to this current thread.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
The section you see above is just over 8 feet. This leaves me a little over 8 feet left to add the dirt to the rest of the slope around Baker's Curve.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123557.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123557.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
This next section is 28 inches from the Tahope River's edge. I plan to bring the forest area up to the line as shown in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123609.jpeg)

Here I have the first of four base scenery layers down.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123622.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
After the forest area is blended in, I'll have some space and then the start of an 80 tree orange grove.

The grove will be placed between the forest edge and the farm house and small barn. The small farm will have a wind mill to draw water from the Tahope River for the orange grove. To the south of the orange grove and barn will be Ma's garden area with corn, cabbage and others goodies.

I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 11, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D

Tom 8)


I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing"  ;D

But for the right price................................................................................. ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 11, 2017, 03:33:06 PM
Great work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2017, 06:25:38 PM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D

Tom 8)


I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing"  ;D

But for the right price................................................................................. ::)


Great answer! I do carry. 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2017, 06:26:15 PM
Great work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 12, 2017, 06:29:24 PM
I didn't get anything done today worth showing. I did make a few goose neck lamps for Frank's, er, I mean my structure.

John Mancuso, Cuse on the forum, stopped by this afternoon. I think it was the first time in a year he checked in.

Hopefully I'll have something to show tomorrow.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 13, 2017, 08:48:15 AM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D

Tom 8)


I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing"  ;D

But for the right price................................................................................. ::)


Great answer! I do carry. 8)

Tom ;D


Uhoh..... ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2017, 06:04:25 PM
Today I finished getting the dirt on the slopes up to Baker's Curve.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180130.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180143.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2017, 06:05:06 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180308.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180308.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180156.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180156.jpeg)


The dark area in the dirt is where the glue is still wet.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on June 13, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
Tom,

Your scenery is coming along very nicely.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 13, 2017, 06:13:54 PM
Tom,

Your scenery is coming along very nicely.


Steve,

Thank you, much appreciated. It has been fun. I just ordered more trees and other scenery stuff from SE.

I need a few more pine trees for a part of this area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 13, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Great job Tom. It's coming along beautifully.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 14, 2017, 03:53:39 PM
Next time I'm told to go play in the dirt....I know where I have to go...........!!!

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on June 15, 2017, 07:41:11 AM
Hi Tom:

Looks like the RR is coming along quite nicely. I following along as usual.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Jerry on June 15, 2017, 11:27:41 AM
Hey Tom

The scenery is looking great.

Jerry
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PennsyJ1 on June 15, 2017, 02:54:33 PM
Hey there Mr. Tom Thank you so much for the updated tour of your fantastic endeavor. It was great to see it in person again. Kris said pictures do not do the lay out justice. There are little details you just do not see until you are right there. It was great to see the Babe again we had a good time!! Keep at it my friend.

Bill & Kris
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2017, 07:10:07 PM
Great job Tom. It's coming along beautifully.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
Next time I'm told to go play in the dirt....I know where I have to go...........!!!


Donato,

Come on down, you are the next contestant in the You Can Play in the Dirt Show!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2017, 07:12:37 PM
Hi Tom:

Looks like the RR is coming along quite nicely. I following along as usual.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks, very much appreciated. And, thank you for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2017, 07:13:22 PM
Hey Tom

The scenery is looking great.

Jerry


Jerry,

The kind compliment is much appreciated. Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 15, 2017, 07:16:04 PM
Hey there Mr. Tom Thank you so much for the updated tour of your fantastic endeavor. It was great to see it in person again. Kris said pictures do not do the lay out justice. There are little details you just do not see until you are right there. It was great to see the Babe again we had a good time!! Keep at it my friend.

Bill & Kris


Bill and Kris,

Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout. Also, thanks for driving down to visit. The babe and I had a great time today and we always enjoy the visiting.

Most of the stuff Pam told you about me really isn't true. Well, some of it anyway.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Ya'll are welcome anytime.

Tom and the Babe ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on June 17, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
You've been making some great progress Tom!  Looking great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 17, 2017, 08:51:46 AM
Oh darn.....I missed seeing Bill & Kris again.....I nee to get up and see their new signal system.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
You've been making some great progress Tom!  Looking great.


Mark,

Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:53:31 PM
Oh darn.....I missed seeing Bill & Kris again.....I nee to get up and see their new signal system.  :)


Greg,

Not to worry, They will be back.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.

I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on June 20, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.

I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.

Tom


Tom


I understand, taking time to take and post pictures bites into the build time.  We appreciate your sharing your build with us and please strike a balance that doesn't slow you down "to much".  The layout is real looking great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on June 20, 2017, 08:53:13 AM
Tom, don't worry about posting.  We know you're getting ready to be on the NMRA national convention tours.  Save the pics and descriptions for after.  Not that it's ONLY FORTY DAYS AWAY or anything.   ;D ;D ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 20, 2017, 09:37:17 PM
You've been making some great progress Tom!  Looking great.


Mark,

Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.

Tom ;D


(http://www.cassandrasembroidery.com/images/ALittleBehind/Set1/ALittleBehind.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:06:02 PM
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.

I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.

Tom


Tom


I understand, taking time to take and post pictures bites into the build time.  We appreciate your sharing your build with us and please strike a balance that doesn't slow you down "to much".  The layout is real looking great.


John,

Yes, you are correct in that the build time suffers when posting. For me it does keep my focused on the layout build thread.

Thank you for the compliment on the layout. I'm still posting but will slow down until I have something worth posting.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:07:55 PM
Tom, don't worry about posting.  We know you're getting ready to be on the NMRA national convention tours.  Save the pics and descriptions for after.  Not that it's ONLY FORTY DAYS AWAY or anything.   ;D ;D ;D


Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for the support but I need to post as it keep me really focused and motivated. I'm ahead of my self imposed schedule but I don't want to get behind and enter panic mode either.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
You've been making some great progress Tom!  Looking great.


Mark,

Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.

Tom ;D


(http://www.cassandrasembroidery.com/images/ALittleBehind/Set1/ALittleBehind.jpg) (http://www.cassandrasembroidery.com/images/ALittleBehind/Set1/ALittleBehind.jpg)


Donato,

Now that is a lot of behinds! I'm not that far gone as yet. LOL!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:17:37 PM
Recently I added some thick ground cover/weeds between the track ballast and sand hill slopes.

I've already done one side but here is my process of adding the weeds and other growth.

I painted some white glue in the area I wanted to cover. In this case the area between the ballast and the slope.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183310.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183310.jpeg)


I allowed the glue to set for several minutes and let it seek it's own level. I then randomly sprinkled on some Scenic Express  ground cover. I also let this set for several minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183327.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183327.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:22:50 PM
After several minutes you can see where the ground cover starts to soak into the glue and allowed to soak in.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183340.jpeg)

At this time, I then sprinkle on more ground cover of a different color and texture. This layer is applied over the still visible white glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183357.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
After several hours, approximately five, I soak the area with matte medium. I then add a third layer of yet another green color and some more clumpy ground material.

I don't find it necessary to add more matte medium as the ground foam material will eventually soak up the matte medium.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183412.jpeg)

The wet stain in the dirt is the diluted matte medium. When it dries the wet stain will disappear.


Here is how it looks when dry. Actually the next day.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183425.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 21, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
I also added the final coat of paint for the Tahope River area. I'll add the water resin over this color.

I used Golden brand Fluid Acrylic Artist paint for the river. This paint is used for artist watercolor effects.

In the photo below you can see the two colors I used and blended for the water color.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183238.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183238.jpeg)

Phthalo Blue and Sap Green Hue were the colors I chose. I used these same two colors for the Suwannee River Basin area except I didn't use the Yellow Ochre and Burnt Sienna in this, the Tahope River.

Here is how it looks after drying. The river looks much brighter than it actually is. I lighted it so you can see the color. I will be much darker when the resin water is added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183253.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183253.jpeg)

I have some cypress trees and some dead logs to go in prior to adding the water.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on June 21, 2017, 06:26:26 PM
ACL 1504,
                  Thank you for the constant stapling of new additions to the thread.  After house construction all day, it's nice to come & take a break and know there's always sumptun cookin' at KP II's diner!  KP out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on June 22, 2017, 03:39:44 AM
Looking good as always Tom , another great scene in the making.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 22, 2017, 05:22:57 AM
ACL 1504,
                  Thank you for the constant stapling of new additions to the thread.  After house construction all day, it's nice to come & take a break and know there's always sumptun cookin' at KP II's diner!  KP out...


Thom,

You are very welcome and thank you for checking in and following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 22, 2017, 05:23:49 AM
Looking good as always Tom , another great scene in the making.


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciated. This will be a fun scene to do.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 22, 2017, 08:40:28 AM
Terrific progress Tom.....enjoyed meeting Curt yesterday.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on June 22, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
Hi Tom:

Looks great as always.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 22, 2017, 10:05:42 AM
As always the pictures don't do justice to your modeling.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 22, 2017, 12:24:14 PM
Tom, you continue to keep me flabbergasted ..... keep it up!!
 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 27, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
Hi Tom:

Looks great as always.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you, your comments are always appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 27, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
As always the pictures don't do justice to your modeling.


Curt,

Thanks for stopping by. I enjoyed our visit and lunch last week. Oh, I do appreciate your kind compliment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 27, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
Tom, you continue to keep me flabbergasted ..... keep it up!!
 


Donato,

Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout work. Sometimes I just get plain lucky and it all turns out well.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 27, 2017, 02:47:48 PM
Today I did get some done on the layout. I upgraded a few cyress trees and poured some water in the Tahope River.

I'll upload some pictures tomorrow. I'm a bit worn out for today.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on June 27, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
KPII,
          Glad to hear your red ryder shooter is working again.  I bet it will be even bigger better once it's spit shined up and placed back in the cabinet!  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 06:27:18 PM
KPII,
          Glad to hear your red ryder shooter is working again.  I bet it will be even bigger better once it's spit shined up and placed back in the cabinet!  KP-out...


KPI,

Yes, the red ryder, or rider I should say, is working once again. Not sure I should read into the rest of the comment!

I don't want us both kicked off the forum. 8) 8) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Well, I'm way behind in my posting to the thread but I do have two updates I'll share today.

I got two big boxes of super trees from SE prior to my last surgery. They are the ones boiled in the glycerin/e but I think they will be fine after I soak them in matte medium.

Out of the two boxes I got about 300 trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183438.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183438.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183551.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183551.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 06:39:32 PM
I was telling the Judge I needed to purchase several more self closing tweezers. I was holding a clothes pin when he came up with a great idea.

He suggested instead of buying the self closing tweezers for $4 each, we take a clothes pin, glue two big nuts (no Thom, not the Judge and me) to each end of the clothes pin.

We went to Ace Hardware and got 30 big nuts for $3.00.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181542.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181542.jpeg)

I used super glue and glued the nuts on the clothes pins.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181613.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181613.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 06:52:01 PM
Thirty clothes pins from Ace Hardware - $3.00

Thirty big nuts from Ace Hardware       - $3.00

New wood self closing tweezers for less than 30 cents each - Priceless

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617185131.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617185131.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:00:31 PM
I decided to add some cypress trees to the Tahope River. I mentioned in a prior post I'm using HO scale Cypress Trees from JTT - a division of MRC.

The tree trunks are a very light gray.  I used Hunterline A&I Medium Brown to darken the tree bark.

You can see clearly the difference in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181650.jpeg)


Also, I wanted to tone down the bright green on the leaves. I sprayed a light coat of hair spray and misted the tree from the top. I then used Woodland Scenics Fine Turf - Earth and sprinkled a little from the top down.

The earth tone appears much darker than it is in the next photo. The photo above gives you a better idea of how if really looks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181705.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
The trees come with a wire armature on the bottom. I didn't want to drill any holes in the river bed so I cut the armature off.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181720.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181720.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181734.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181734.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi break time folks. Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on June 28, 2017, 07:06:22 PM
Glad to see you're back at it, Tom.  I like the clothespin idea.  I found that straightening the trees with the soldering iron worked well on the more crooked ones.  Two quick questions.  My Super Tree Starter kit had more "flat" trees.  The 1/4 Bushel "Value Pak" had more three dimensional trees.  1.)  Is what you're showing the "Super Value Case"? 2).  Are there more 3-D and less "flat" trees?  Thanks for your answers in advance.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
I used hot glue to secure the tree to the river bed. I was very careful and didn't burn my fingers this time.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181756.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181756.jpeg)

I glued a total of four cypress trees along the banks.

I took a medium size sage tree and broke off a branch. I glued one half to the river bank and glued the other half a little above the river bed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181810.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:43:48 PM
Glad to see you're back at it, Tom.  I like the clothespin idea.  I found that straightening the trees with the soldering iron worked well on the more crooked ones.  Two quick questions.  My Super Tree Starter kit had more "flat" trees.  The 1/4 Bushel "Value Pak" had more three dimensional trees.  1.)  Is what you're showing the "Super Value Case"? 2).  Are there more 3-D and less "flat" trees?  Thanks for your answers in advance.

Jeff


Jeff,

The Judge really came through on the clothes pin and nut idea. They work as well as the $4.00 metal tweezers.

I tried the soldering iron trick and it didn't work to well for me.

Great question about the trees. And, I have a great answer.

I also bought the "Value Pack" from SE and found many of the trees flat. These I just used against the photo backdrop.

I believe the flat trees came from packing the value pack in one box. Okay, mine were literally crammed in the box. Many were broken and many more were flat. I didn't get many full trees in that order and the bad trees I cut into the pine trees.

The trees I'm showing is the value pack - my second order. I think I only got three flat trees in this bunch.

All the trees you see are all full size trees of differing heights.

Here is the difference. When I placed the second order I asked that the order be shipped in two separate boxes. I asked for the trees to be gently placed in the boxes and not pushed down. I said I would pay for the extra box shipping but I don't think they charged me.

Hope this helps.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
I used the WS Deep Pour Water Clear for the Tahope River. I followed the directions and mixed the entire amount. I gently poured the river water in the bed and let is seek it own level.

Here is how it looked about 30 minutes after the pour.

You can see the dead tree above the water. I later pushed this down in the water. You'll see it later in this post.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181827.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181827.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181841.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181841.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 07:58:35 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181858.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181918.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181918.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 28, 2017, 08:00:57 PM
You can see where the water leached up on the bank. My answer to this, low tide water. You can see in the next photo I've pushed the dead tree a little into the water.

Still water runs deep.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181932.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181932.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on June 28, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
Looks great Tom. They cypress trees are just nice until you "sink em" in the water, then they're NICE!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on June 29, 2017, 04:09:17 AM
Beautiful Tom, I bought those tree's from a florist wholesale , lot's and lot's cheaper then from SE.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on June 29, 2017, 07:48:55 AM
We have water!   ;D  ;D  ;D  Awesome!  Simply awesome. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on June 29, 2017, 08:58:11 AM
Neat..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 29, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!


...my exact sentiments ...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 29, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!


...my exact sentiments ...

Exactly exact.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:50:19 PM
Looks great Tom. They cypress trees are just nice until you "sink em" in the water, then they're NICE!


John


John,

Thank you. Yes, the cypress trees do look better in the water.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:51:24 PM
Beautiful Tom, I bought those tree's from a florist wholesale , lot's and lot's cheaper then from SE.


Jan,

Thank you as well. They don't sell the super trees in the florist in the states. :'(

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:52:31 PM
We have water!   ;D ;D ;D  Awesome!  Simply awesome.


Bob,

Thank you, much appreciated. As they say, "It looks better in person." At least I think it does.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:53:11 PM
Neat..... 8)


Greg,


Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!


Steve,

Thank you for the compliment. I did fall off the horse a few times this year but I get back in the saddle each time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!


...my exact sentiments ...


Donato,

My thanks, exactly!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!


...my exact sentiments ...

Exactly exact.

Jim


Jim,

I'll tell you the exact same Thank You!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 06:00:45 PM
Today I used almost all my old super trees from the old layout to cover the river bank on the south side.

Here is my work area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174707.jpeg)

I'll not waste precious time pontificating all I did so I'll just show ya'll a photo display of what I did.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174721.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174721.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 06:02:12 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174735.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174735.jpeg)


I like to look of the trees and underbrush out over the waters edge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174829.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 06:02:54 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174842.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174750.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 29, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174815.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174803.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174803.jpeg)


Now that the resin water is thoroughly dry, I'll add a just a very thin layer of Deep Pour Water on the top. This will look much better as the second pour won't creep up on the bank.  The dry water won't let the wet water creep up anymore than it has.

Also, the water will be a little higher on the cypress trees.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 29, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on June 29, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
Tom,
Absolutely beautiful work. Really give the impression of the South. Might suggest a little more tree liter along the river bank in the background. Another thought might include a little scum on the water. I used a very diluted acrylic paint on a brush to get this effect. I think that everyone visiting your layout next month will enjoy seeing your beautiful layout. Keep up the great work.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 09:18:06 AM
Beautiful work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you and as always, I appreciate your following along on the adventure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 09:21:23 AM
Tom,
Absolutely beautiful work. Really give the impression of the South. Might suggest a little more tree liter along the river bank in the background. Another thought might include a little scum on the water. I used a very diluted acrylic paint on a brush to get this effect. I think that everyone visiting your layout next month will enjoy seeing your beautiful layout. Keep up the great work.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Good Morning sir. Thank you for the kind words on the progress.

You and RWL always seem to be thinking ahead of my own thoughts. More river debris and other accumulations are in the works. River scum is planned for some areas around the cypress trees.

Now, everyone knows what I'm thinking. 8) 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on June 30, 2017, 01:22:16 PM
Bravo, Bravo, Bravissimo .....!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on June 30, 2017, 02:42:38 PM
Looks like that just flows out of the back ground.  Really neat!!!!!!

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:30:54 PM
Bravo, Bravo, Bravissimo .....!!!


Donato,

Thanks very mucho.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:31:59 PM
Looks like that just flows out of the back ground.  Really neat!!!!!!

Jim


Jim,

Thanks, it does. Everything smelly flows east.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:40:08 PM
I finally started work on the area due south of everything else. This is the area where the track leaves the mainline to the track leading to the Ovalix and reverse loops.

I was going to extend the sand hill next to the front and this is why you see the Masonite fascia raised on the right.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182023.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182023.jpeg)

If I did this, then it would be necessary to carry the hill around to the center portion as well. I decided not to do this so I cut the Masonite level with the scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182037.jpeg)

I plan to have a spur track here with some sort of industry. It's a better idea than the sand hill.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:42:26 PM
You can also see I added spackle to the area on the smaller background hill. This will be covered with trees and under brush.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182052.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182106.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182106.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
I also added the road to this area. The road was drawn in roughly or roughly drawn in, which ever you prefer.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143408.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143408.jpeg)

I marked on the ballast where the road would be cut next to the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143422.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143422.jpeg)

Continued in a few. Time for my favorite beverage break.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:53:43 PM
I cut the ballast and cork where the new sub-roadbed will meet the crossing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143443.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143443.jpeg)

I cut a notch in the new cork road base to fit the area I removed from the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143458.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143458.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143513.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143513.jpeg)



More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 05:58:26 PM
Here is how the cork roadbed base fits the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143530.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143530.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143549.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143549.jpeg)

I'll finish showing the road construction in the next few days.

More on scenery in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 06:00:53 PM
I used the last bit of the trees from the old layout. I used them to fill in the upper area above the river and to the right of the track/layout edge area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143651.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143651.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143638.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on June 30, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
Arial view looking north.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143711.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143711.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on June 30, 2017, 06:40:53 PM
Tom,
         Nice river shots!  Sorry, but I just can't help it. T...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4-eKvv3EM 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 30, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Gorgeous modeling Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on July 01, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:09:12 PM
Tom,
         Nice river shots!  Sorry, but I just can't help it. T...



Thom,

Thank you. The Dobbie Brothers were a great group but their best song was and still is "What a Fool Believes."

Tom ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_FvK51wOQ
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
Gorgeous modeling Tom.


Curt,

Thank you very much. I need to put you on the payroll! ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.


Marty,

Your very kind compliment on the scenery is very much appreciated. The layering of the scenery sure changes the appearance of the scenes. When I think about skipping a layer, I look back and see it just won't do.

I'm very happy you are following along on this adventure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:22:32 PM
I finished the main road on the south side. The road appears to be off center, it isn't. It's an optical illusion.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165402.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165402.jpeg)

I moved back to the farm area and added the background scenery. My background scenery is the scenery I add to blend the photo backdrop to the layout.

White glue was spread on the foam.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165417.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165417.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:25:02 PM
After the white glue is spread out, the first layer of scenery was added and spread.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165634.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165649.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165649.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165705.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 01, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
After the first layer was dry, I wet it with wet water and added a spray of matte medium. I then added layers two and three to the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165721.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165721.jpeg)

The part of the scenery will be behind another scene so only the three layers were used.

I did add the background underbrush to blend the layout scenery to the photo backdrop.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165736.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165736.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165750.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165750.jpeg)

I'll add a few trees to this narrow strip of scenery in a few days.

I also added three layers of scenery to the corner as well. This corner will be all trees and undergrowth. They will be added in the next two weeks if not sooner.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165805.jpeg)

More tomorrow afternoon.

More in a few
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 01, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
I just love how everything just flows into the background.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on July 01, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.


EASY!
Next thing you know, he'll be taking up an offering to pay for all of the scenery materials.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 02, 2017, 06:19:05 AM
Beautiful.  Simply beautiful Tom. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 01:44:44 PM
I just love how everything just flows into the background.


Jan,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the scenery. I'm glad you are along on the trip.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.


EASY!
Next thing you know, he'll be taking up an offering to pay for all of the scenery materials.  ;)


Chip,

Hmmm great idea, I never thought of that. Well, maybe just a small admission fee. ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Beautiful.  Simply beautiful Tom.


Mark,

Thank you, it is really a lot of fun at this point.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 01:51:45 PM
If anyone was wondering what my grid was all about, I'm ready to tell.

I plan on having an orange grove in that location and needed to see how I was going to fit it in and how many trees I would need.

The spacing on the grid is 2.5 inches.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165820.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165820.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165834.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165834.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Woodland Scenics makes the best orange trees I've seen.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165904.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165904.jpeg)

Basically they are a medium fiber puff ball on a plastic armature with WS material and WS oranges.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165850.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165850.jpeg)

Really not to bad looking.

More in a few
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
The trees sit on a small round plastic base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165917.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165917.jpeg)

The good news is the round base comes off. I decided I was going to use the point on the bottom of the trunk and just push them into the blue foam. Then I came up with a better idea. More on this later in the thread.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165931.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165931.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 02:04:26 PM
I started out with 48 orange trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165946.jpeg)

And this gave me 48 little plastic tree bases.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717140054.jpeg)

Back after a lengthy Diet Pepsi break. Actually, I need to get some super trees out of the matte medium where they have been soaking.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 02:20:13 PM
Instead of poking the orange trees into the foam, I figured I'd just glue them over the grid where the lines cross.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165958.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170015.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 02:29:04 PM
I then used white glue and painted it over the entire area where the plastic bases were. I made sure not to get any glue into the holes in the center of the base.

I then spread some good old Florida sand over the white glue. I first prepped the sand. Here is how I prepped the sand.

The Judge and I went to a local school and I got a small bucket of sand from the fence line. I spread the sand out on a baking tray. I baked the sand @ 200 degrees for an hour. This process does several things. It removes the moisture, kills the weed seeds and any bugs that may be buried in the sand.

When dry and cool, I shifted the sand to remove any all junk, like stems, leaves, etc. and etc.

I then shifted the shifted sand to remove larger sand particles. I was left with very fine sand.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170030.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170030.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170044.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170044.jpeg)

More later this afternoon. I need to crop and load more pictures.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
When I got the sand spread across the area I wet it with water and then added a liberal dose of matte medium.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143131.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143131.jpeg)

As the matte medium was drying I used a large screen sieve and "dusted" the area north, south, east and west along the line and over the holes in the plastic bases. I used WS earth for this.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143159.jpeg)
I did the same with a medium size sieve and this time I used the same sand. I tapped the edge of the sieve to get a "dusting" of the sand over the WS earth.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143213.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143213.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 06:34:49 PM
The areas between the orange trees are kept weed free but not so under the tree itself. I used a mix of scenic material to add weeds around the bottom of the tree bases.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143227.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143227.jpeg)

When the sand and weeds were dry I started adding the trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143242.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143242.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
I've never had a snow ball fight and I'm guessing my northern forum friends never had an orange fight.

Growing up in Central Florida in the late 40's to early 60's, a good size orange grove was within walking or biking distance.

Orange fights can hurt, be stinky and very sticky. Tangerine fights were the preferred fruit of the girls as the tangerines were much softer. Yes, the neighborhood girls also participated.

To get a black eye from an orange was like a badge of courage. A large whelp was also a gold star as you got one of those if you got hit in the chest or back with a hard grapefruit.

I always tried to find an orange on the ground that was partially rotten with green mold growing on it. This left the victim with a smelly and sticky juice.

We all had a great time and ended the fight with eating many oranges. We would peal the skin back or take a bite out of the top. We then squeezed the orange to get the juice. We all went home with a red rash around our mouths from the citric acid from the orange peel.

Ah, the good old days.

Okay, the tree planting continues.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg)

I've planted 48 orange trees and have 32 more to plant.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
It appears this small grove is ready for an orange fight as the oranges are starting to fall on the ground.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143326.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143340.jpeg)

I'll post more tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 02, 2017, 08:29:47 PM
I am a transplant from the cold north, Michigan to be exact, and I have been in many a snowball fight.  We moved here (Orlando) in 1961 and built our house in the tail end of a Grove.  We had 22 Citrus trees in our backyard, Orange, Tangerine, and Grapefruit. and I do remember the kids having Orange fights.  There were a lot of Bumps, Whelps, and sticky, stinky kids to clean up.

Ah........the good old days (not)

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 02, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Looks like the oranges are ready for picking and then selling them at the fruit stand nearby.  I helped in the demise of some orange groves in the eastern part of Phoenix in the early 80's building new freeways in the area.

Where I grew up in California, we had rock fights since there were no fruit trees around and now snow.  I had my share of stiches.

The new scenery is looking very good. 

 

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 02, 2017, 09:18:01 PM
I've never had a snow ball fight and I'm guessing my northern forum friends never had an orange fight.

Growing up in Central Florida in the late 40's to early 60's, a good size orange grove was within walking or biking distance.

Orange fights can hurt, be stinky and very sticky. Tangerine fights were the preferred fruit of the girls as the tangerines were much softer. Yes, the neighborhood girls also participated.

To get a black eye from an orange was like a badge of courage. A large whelp was also a gold star as you got one of those if you got hit in the chest or back with a hard grapefruit.

I always tried to find an orange on the ground that was partially rotten with green mold growing on it. This left the victim with a smelly and sticky juice.

We all had a great time and ended the fight with eating many oranges. We would peal the skin back or take a bite out of the top. We then squeezed the orange to get the juice. We all went home with a red rash around our mouths from the citric acid from the orange peel.

Ah, the good old days.

Okay, the tree planting continues.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg)

I've planted 48 orange trees and have 32 more to plant.

More in a few.









My swamp filled layout friend,
          I guess I'm lucky.  I've been fortunate enough to have both rotten orange and snowball fights along with rotten apple fights and on the farm even a couple dead mouse fights. ha. 8)  Thanks for the trip down memory lane T.  Thanx Thom... Oh almost forgot the basic learning curve water balloon fights and the slightly more advanced paintball fights, but always tried to avoid the ever popular political Left/Right fights!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 03, 2017, 09:04:44 AM
That orange grove looks great!  Good trick to plan the tree bases in the pattern!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 03, 2017, 09:47:29 AM
Truly a thing of beauty.  You sir are a artist.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
I am a transplant from the cold north, Michigan to be exact, and I have been in many a snowball fight.  We moved here (Orlando) in 1961 and built our house in the tail end of a Grove.  We had 22 Citrus trees in our backyard, Orange, Tangerine, and Grapefruit. and I do remember the kids having Orange fights.  There were a lot of Bumps, Whelps, and sticky, stinky kids to clean up.

Ah........the good old days (not)

Jim


Jim,

Thanks for stopping by and you know those WERE the good old day! I'd gladly go back and do it all over again.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Looks like the oranges are ready for picking and then selling them at the fruit stand nearby.  I helped in the demise of some orange groves in the eastern part of Phoenix in the early 80's building new freeways in the area.

Where I grew up in California, we had rock fights since there were no fruit trees around and now snow.  I had my share of stiches.

The new scenery is looking very good. 

 


Steve,

Thank you for the kind words.

It has been estimated that Central Florida alone has lost more than two hundred thousand acres of citrus groves due to roadways and humanoid expansion. Very sad indeed.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:00:51 PM
Thom,

You are lucky. You got to throw everything and probably the kitchen sink as well.

No politics here. It just makes me madder than Hell.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:01:57 PM
That orange grove looks great!  Good trick to plan the tree bases in the pattern!


dave


Dave,

Thank you, very much appreciated. I got lucky on the idea of using the plastic bases for planting the trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:03:57 PM
Curt,

Very much appreciate the compliment. Have you been talking to my mother again? ;D ;D ;D


She used to tell me that when I couldn't keep the crayon inside the lines.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
Over the past several days I also installed a fence around the grove area and farm land.

I started by using the tooth picks without cutting them to length. I poured some Hunterline A&I Medium Brown stain in a small jar. Fifty toothpicks were put in the bottle for 20 minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143354.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143354.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143408.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143408.jpeg)

More in a few.




Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:14:26 PM



(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143421.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143421.jpeg)

I labeled the jar so I would know what was in it. If not, in a few days I would have no clue.

After twenty minutes I removed the toothpicks, er, I mean fence posts. I let them dry on a paper towel for an hour.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143434.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143434.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:21:58 PM
I pushed the fence posts into the foam and used a small level to make sure they were all level. The posts are 4 HO scale feet in height and spaced 8 scale feet apart.

They kind of look like the start of Trump's wall. 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143501.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143501.jpeg)


Once the fence posts holes was dug, I used my little hammer to pound them into the ground/foam. The little hammer is the only tool I have left out of my "Handy Andy" tool set from 1950.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143514.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143514.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:23:29 PM
I'm getting there.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143527.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143527.jpeg)

Fence posts are now in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143540.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143540.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
I used tan thread for the barbed wire.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143552.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143552.jpeg)

Fence barbed wire finished. I stained the thread with Hunterline Rust.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143605.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143605.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:49:14 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143618.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143618.jpeg)


I decided to run a fence line down the front of the orange grove. I used 22 fence posts and only added them to the edge of the current grove. I'll continue the fence once the rest of the orange trees are installed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155230.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155230.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 04:58:12 PM
Fence posts are installed and barbed wire is added and stained.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155244.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155244.jpeg)

In all the groves I've been in, both legally and illegally, I've never seen the fence line void of weeds. Time to add weeds to this fence line.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155256.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155256.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time folks.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 05:07:26 PM
Here are a few extra pictures of the orange grove just north of Baker's Curve.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155310.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155310.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155330.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155330.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 03, 2017, 05:08:05 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155346.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030717155401.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 03, 2017, 10:15:43 PM
Beautiful job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 04, 2017, 06:00:41 AM
Looking great Tom. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on July 04, 2017, 06:10:07 AM
Tom,


You have been making progress!


I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again hell bent on the layout. It is also good to read that you will not be receiving bus loads of observers, only SUV loads, as long as there are not convoys of SUVs you should be in good shape. I could vision the unimaginable, a bus load showing up (30 or, so bodies) and the wet floor of the layout that you would endure after the 1st group was finished and 2nd group of observers came in from the pool. Scary isn't it? Maybe you should set out complimentary towels.

Your progress considering some of the setbacks you have encountered is very impressive. Your step by step has been and continues to be beneficial to all that follow. The grove reflects the time frame of the layout, well manicured rows of pruned trees, limited debris under the trees and a property line. You mentioned the reduction of groves due to development and such, don't forget the state government imposing restrictions known as Citrus Kanker. That was the excuse they used to eliminate personal trees on ones property. The state can't make money if you have your own tree! Your depiction is well before the 80s and it reflects it.

One criticism, there is always one with me. Even though there was strict attention to detail in the layouts era I do believe there would be an accumulation of pruned branches and possibly tree trunks deposited along the fence line to the left of the grove. The grove illustrates the picking season, so maybe there would be something on the fence line and maybe not. It might be the possibility for a mini-scene of workers collecting the prunings along the fence. Remember the "grove trucks" no cab, no fenders, maybe a hood, and the seat and steering wheel were out in the open? That would be unique, now that would be a build for Dan.

Anyway, glad to read your health is good as well as the health of the layout. It is looking very nice, your observers will be very impressed.

Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on July 04, 2017, 06:12:07 AM
Tom,


There is something strange about posting from here. Once again a second post.


You have been making progress!


I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again [/size]hell bent on the layout. It is also good to read that you will not be receiving bus loads of observers, only SUV loads, as long as there are not convoys of SUVs you should be in good shape. I could vision the unimaginable, a bus load showing up (30 or, so bodies) and the wet floor of the layout that you would endure after the 1st group was finished and 2nd group of observers came in from the pool. Scary isn't it? Maybe you should set out complimentary towels.

[/size]Your progress considering some of the setbacks you have encountered is very impressive. Your step by step has been and continues to be beneficial to all that follow. The grove reflects the time frame of the layout, well manicured rows of pruned trees, limited debris under the trees and a property line. You mentioned the reduction of groves due to development and such, don't forget the state government imposing restrictions known as Citrus Kanker. That was the excuse they used to eliminate personal trees on ones property. The state can't make money if you have your own tree! Your depiction is well before the 80s and it reflects it.

[/size]One criticism, there is always one with me. Even though there was strict attention to detail in the layouts era I do believe there would be an accumulation of pruned branches and possibly tree trunks deposited along the fence line to the left of the grove. The grove illustrates the picking season, so maybe there would be something on the fence line and maybe not. It might be the possibility for a mini-scene of workers collecting the prunings along the fence. Remember the "grove trucks" no cab, no fenders, maybe a hood, and the seat and steering wheel were out in the open? That would be unique, now that would be a build for Dan.

[/size]Anyway, glad to read your health is good as well as the health of the layout. It is looking very nice, your observers will be very impressed.

Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 07:52:53 AM
Beautiful job Tom.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 08:01:29 AM
Looking great Tom.


Mark,

Thanks very much.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 08:13:44 AM
Tom,


You have been making progress!


I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again

Bob


Bob,

I appreciate you checking in on the thread. Yes, I've been busy, very busy in fact.

The main surgery in January and the two follow up surgeries have been more of an inconvenience than anything. All together, they set me back a good three months worth of layout work.

I'm not complaining as I didn't require any Chemo or Radiation for the cancer. A Lymphnodeectomy or lymph node dissection showed no cancer spread to that area. So, in the grand scheme of things, I'm still very healthy, just minus a prostate.

Staying positive through the entire process was a bonus for me. Fantastic family and friends made the experience a smooth few months.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 04, 2017, 08:44:37 AM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)


Greg,


The more trees for juice the better.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on July 04, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
Wow!   :o  This is looking absolutely splendid!!   :D  :D  :D  I'm working on a small item for you that I need to drop off one of these days.  The only hint I'll give is it's not a structure nor is it a vehicle.   ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Judge on July 04, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
Tom - Seems to me when we used to "borrow" oranges from local groves to throw at our buddies, there was always a tree or two in the grove that had died and had bare branches.  Of course this was long before citrus canker, so the dead trees probably died from old age.  If the grove on your A&S RR is a "new" grove, there would be no dead trees.

I really like the "weeds" under the trees.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on July 04, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Wow , Tom.  I miss a few days on your thread and you have orange trees growing and producing oranges already. Very nice work!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 05, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
Tom you went out and did it again!!  Just Marvelous stuff.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 05, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)


Greg,


The more trees for juice the better.

Tom ;D


Mo trees is here..... ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 04:07:21 PM
Wow!   :o  This is looking absolutely splendid!!   :D :D :D  I'm working on a small item for you that I need to drop off one of these days.  The only hint I'll give is it's not a structure nor is it a vehicle.   ;)


Bob,

Thank you kind sir. This area has been a lot of fun getting the scenery in place. I'm curious about this small item you have.

I'll give you a call, maybe you can come down Saturday for some much needed BBQ from the Bones.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
Tom - Seems to me when we used to "borrow" oranges from local groves to throw at our buddies, there was always a tree or two in the grove that had died and had bare branches.  Of course this was long before citrus canker, so the dead trees probably died from old age.  If the grove on your A&S RR is a "new" grove, there would be no dead trees.

I really like the "weeds" under the trees.


Judge,

The orange grove at Perkins' Farm is very well maintained. It gives them a modest income so they can't afford to let any of the trees go to ruin. Farmer Perkins is in the grove on a daily basis.
Heck, I bet the old Mrs. Perkins has a small garden.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Wow , Tom.  I miss a few days on your thread and you have orange trees growing and producing oranges already. Very nice work!


John,

Thank you, much appreciated. My grandson is 16 so those days of staying with Gippop and running trains are long gone. It gives me that time to myself and the layout. I have 32 more tress going in the grove.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 04:13:45 PM
Tom you went out and did it again!!  Just Marvelous stuff.


Donato,

Very much appreciate your comment. This project has been fun but I do apologize, I just can't help myself.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 04:15:24 PM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)


Greg,


The more trees for juice the better.

Tom ;D


Mo trees is here..... ;D


Greg,

Great, my Babe and I will be up tomorrow late morning. Be sure you don't squeeze any juice out of the oranges.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 05:13:23 PM
As much fun as I've been having on the scenery, something has been bothering me for a month or so.

Scenic Express obviously sells hundreds of different items. One of the products I've been using with my scenery is the Flock & Turf. I use Item #EX882C. The "C" simply refers to the fact that it's in the 64 oz. bottle. Yes, I buy it in bulk.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170343.jpeg)

Anyway, this is the same product and item number I purchase from them last year. The problem I have with SE is that they changed the contents every so slightly. The silfor filler is 2mm instead of the 4mm they had in last years batch. Also, they added some brown foam. I dislike very much the brown foam look.

And the green foam chunks are a little larger as well. Here is a close up of the Flock & Turf in the plastic jar.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170358.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170358.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 05:20:50 PM
I decided to try and separate the silfor filler and the green and brown chunks.

I put some of the stuff in my large tea strainer.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170412.jpeg)

I rubbed my finger around the inside of the strainer. This allowed the 2mm silfor to fall through the screen with some other small scenery material.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170425.jpeg)


Now I can blend the finer separated material with smaller grass blends.

My idea worked this time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
It is officially official now. I have my own little yard sign.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170443.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050717170443.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 05, 2017, 05:36:01 PM
I forgot to mention that my last post gave me picture number 3300. That is a whole bunch of cropping. :o :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 05, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
I know all the people will be blown away with your layout that visit it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 05, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
I think the NMRA people are going to be shocked to see what one person can accomplish.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
I know all the people will be blown away with your layout that visit it.


Curt,

I'm looking forward to any visitors who come by and hope they like what I've done.

Thanks for the thumbs up! ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 07, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
I think the NMRA people are going to be shocked to see what one person can accomplish.

Jim


Jim,

Doug Bowman, Chairman of the NMRA layout tour, came by the other night to see the layout and drop off the NMRA yard sign.

He was shocked at the scenery.  He said the pictures just don't do the layout justice and he wasn't prepared to see how it all looks in person. I hope all the rest of the visitors are pleased with what I've done as well.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Raymo on July 07, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
Tom I'm catching up on this thread. Your orange Grove looks awesome and it still amazes me how your scenery and Joey's backgrounds work so well together to create a larger scene.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 07, 2017, 10:29:44 PM
Hi Tom,

If any of your visitors don't like your scenery, there is something wrong with them.  Your scenery is absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
Tom I'm catching up on this thread. Your orange Grove looks awesome and it still amazes me how your scenery and Joey's backgrounds work so well together to create a larger scene.


Dan,

Thanks very much for the compliment on the scenery and grove. Joey's photo background sure make the scenery look good. Best decision and purchase I've made for the layout.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
Hi Tom,

If any of your visitors don't like your scenery, there is something wrong with them.  Your scenery is absolutely amazing.


Steve,

Thanks very much. Four weeks from today I'll have an answer.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
I finished the orange grove yesterday. I prepped the ground same as the other half. I took the photos so ya'll have to see it all over again. ;D ;D


The plastic bases were glued in place, white glue painted over the area and sand was smoothed out over the glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162505.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162505.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162518.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162518.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
The sand was wet with wet water and saturated with matte medium.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162531.jpeg)

As it was drying I sprinkled on more earth and sand. Weeds were also added as on the other section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162545.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162545.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:43:16 PM
Early this morning I added the other 32 orange trees. I also added 32 new fence posts. The fence posts were carried down to where the road will cross the track. 32 trees and 32 posts, numbers are a funny thing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162558.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162558.jpeg)

I still need to add the barbed wire and more weeds along the fence line.

I've been waiting to use my old farm buildings and old wind mill. I've had these boxed for the past 12 years.

Here is my kit bash SS Ltd. wind mill. It won't necessarily be located where it is in the photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162614.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Here is the Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. I used George Sellios' white farm house as my source.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162627.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162627.jpeg)

Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:52:54 PM
I wanted to get the track started from the south end to the center portion of the second level.

This track comes off the #8 left hand curved turnout located behind the small lubritorium building. This trackage will only be used with freight trains. There is a short section of 30" radius curve track leading into a ME #6 left hand turnout. The curved section is 32" radius.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162656.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162656.jpeg)

Did I ever mention that level is a good thing when it comes to trackwork?

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162709.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162709.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 04:55:40 PM
The spur will be used to service the structure in the photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162722.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162722.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162734.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162734.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 08, 2017, 05:01:15 PM
Hi Tom.....it looks like you're coming around the Bend at Baker's Curve......good progress.  8)

Or would that be going around the bend?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
This is my very poor and first attempt to copy one of George Sellios' structures. I saw a photo of this on Ebay about 24+ years ago and decided to copy it.

You will recognize it as the Chippy Hollow Hardware Co. - Kit #260, released in 1989 for $180.00.

I copied the metal side size and made the structure clapboard. I bought a box of Chippy Hollow casting off Ebay for $4.50. You'd probably pay $75.00+ today.

Anyway, I made many mistakes on this model. It maybe doesn't look like it but I know where they all are.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg)

I'm going to use it as is anyway.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 05:10:05 PM
Hi Tom.....it looks like you're coming around the Bend at Baker's Curve......good progress.  8)

Or would that be going around the bend?  ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Thanks very much. I would say both, be it coming around or going around the bend. ??? ???


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on July 08, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
You've seen me staring at that one. It's definitely one of my favorites in your collection. I was hoping you were NOT going to use it  ;) .


Your layout is coming along beautifully. I'm in New Smyrna working on mine today.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 08, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
Beautiful work Tom.  I love the Orchard.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 07:06:41 AM
You've seen me staring at that one. It's definitely one of my favorites in your collection. I was hoping you were NOT going to use it  ;) .


Your layout is coming along beautifully. I'm in New Smyrna working on mine today.


John


John,

Yes, you have been staring at this one for several years now. Sorry, it just seems to fit here. First time in 15 years is looked good anywhere on the layout.

Thanks for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 07:08:40 AM
Beautiful work Tom.  I love the Orchard.


Curt,

Thanks very much sir. The grove turned out better than I hoped. It's always a bit of guess work in using a commercial tree from WS. These are some of their best. The good news is that I didn't have to rebuild them.

Tom ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 07:12:54 AM
I've been very busy on the layout work and scenery. I've planted more than 60 trees since Saturday afternoon.

I was looking at all the different materials and shades of green and brown in making the trees. I even have a very little orange in one of the mixes.

I'll get all the material together in one picture. Well, maybe two pictures but you will be amazed.

I'll put the photo up later this afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on July 11, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
We will anxiously await. Enjoying following your thread.  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 11, 2017, 08:54:22 AM
ACL 1504,
                Had a little time between all the hammering, thought I'd stop by and see what's cookin'.  Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. Wow!  Damn nice job. That's going to be another good scene among many on your AS.


This is my very poor and first attempt to copy one of George Sellios' structures. I saw a photo of this on Ebay about 24+ years ago and decided to copy it.

You will recognize it as the Chippy Hollow Hardware Co. - Kit #260, released in 1989 for $180.00.

I copied the metal side size and made the structure clapboard. I bought a box of Chippy Hollow casting off Ebay for $4.50. You'd probably pay $75.00+ today.

Anyway, I made many mistakes on this model. It maybe doesn't look like it but I know where they all are.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg)

I'm going to use it as is anyway.




Mistakes?  What mistakes?  I don't see no stinkin' mistakes! Oh wait, I see!  You forgot to scenic the plywood, right? ;D  Stay healthy, give momma plenty of nichols for long shopping days and keep modeling your AS on time!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 11:13:26 AM
We will anxiously await. Enjoying following your thread.  Jim


Jim,

I'm anxious to add to the post this afternoon or early evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 11:16:30 AM
ACL 1504,
                Had a little time between all the hammering, thought I'd stop by and see what's cookin'.  Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. Wow!  Damn nice job. That's going to be another good scene among many on your AS.




Mistakes?  What mistakes?  I don't see no stinkin' mistakes! Oh wait, I see!  You forgot to scenic the plywood, right? ;D  Stay healthy, give momma plenty of nichols for long shopping days and keep modeling your AS on time!  Thanx Thom...


Trust me grasshopper, they are there.

Momma is way past the nickel stag, she's moved on to the $ shopping. :'( :'(


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.

Tom 8)


Slow down son.....scenery defined as dirt, bushes, trees, grass, etc. along the AS right-of-way.  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.

Tom 8)


Slow down son.....scenery defined as dirt, bushes, trees, grass, etc. along the AS right-of-way.  ::)


Okay, I thought you were referring to my AS. It was the other AS you were referring to. My bad, in the gutter again. 8)

Tom ???
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:36:56 PM
Trees, trees and more trees. When I was adding foliage to the trees I was trying to keep them separated by size, shape and like colors.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717110935.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717110935.jpeg)


It didn't take long to figure out I didn't have enough space to do what I intended. Once the two boxes were filled, I grabbed any open container I could find to put trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111021.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
I gave up and just put them where I found a space.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717173957.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717173957.jpeg)

I had plenty of broken trees and parts of trees. I added foliage to these also as they can be used for bushes, undergrowth and etc.. I had two boxes of tree parts when finished.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111006.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:46:17 PM
When I finished adding all the foliage to the trees, I was very much surprised how many different colors and textures were used.

Here is a photo list of all the material I used for the tree foliage.

Some of these were used on a single tree and most of them were combined in some fashion to get the color and texture necessary for different tree foliage.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111036.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111050.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:50:17 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111103.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111103.jpeg)


I have no idea where or when I got the little bag of bright green stuff but it mixed well with other colors to give me yet a different appearing tree.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:50:41 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111119.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:54:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111135.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111135.jpeg)


Noch color left to right.

Dark Green Leaf

Medium Green Leaf

Light Green Leaf

Fall Leaf - used just a pinch to give a little brown in the colors.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111149.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111149.jpeg)


And the glue to hold it all in place -

Pantene hair spray. It was on sale at Walgreens, buy one get one for $2.00 each.

I got two different to try and they both work as well as the other.

Of course I sprayed the bare tree and then used Hal's Turbo Tree machine to add the foliage.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111204.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111204.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 06:00:56 PM
I added the bushes for the transition from the actual scenery to the photo backdrop.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160627.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160627.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160642.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 06:07:29 PM
I then started adding trees. When adding trees I don't secure them in place. I'll add  6 to 12 trees to an area and then sit back and think about how they look. If I like the look, I'll leave them. Sometimes I'll remove all of them and start over.

I know nature doesn't work this way but on a scale layout, they do need to look natural. Just my thinking anyway. It's work out so far. The negative side of doing this is that it takes me quite a bit longer to get my forest of trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160711.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160711.jpeg)

While I was letting the trees grow on my, pun here, I added the fence posts as seen in the above picture and below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160725.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 06:09:37 PM
In this next photo, I changed a few of the trees. I like this look much better. I also added some clump foliage under most of the trees but not all.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160745.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160802.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 06:12:09 PM
I also added more of the fence in front of the farm area, added a few bushes and trees on each side of the sand hills.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160821.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160821.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160838.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160838.jpeg)

More tomorrow evening, I hope. I have many areas where I'm waiting for the matte medium to dry.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 11, 2017, 06:32:35 PM
Great trees Tom , it all looks quite natural.

Will the hairspray hold in the long run?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
Great trees Tom , it all looks quite natural.

Will the hairspray hold in the long run?


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Yes, the hair spray, at least this hair spray, will hold over time. It also depends on how much you spray on. I just try to get a good even coat all around the tree.


The trees you see in the scenes below are from my old layout. They were made about 6-7 years ago and then in boxes for almost three years prior to replanting in the corners.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051116191752.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051116191752.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130616160045.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130616160045.jpeg)


Very little loss of foliage.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on July 11, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 11, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Outstanding modeling Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 11, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
WOW.....I did not realize how high the sand hills were.  Almost looks like a cut between the mountains.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on July 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
wow. What a great and unusual scene. Nice work!

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 06:51:55 PM
WOW!


Jim,

Thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 06:52:48 PM
Outstanding modeling Tom.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 06:54:25 PM
WOW.....I did not realize how high the sand hills were.  Almost looks like a cut between the mountains.

Jim


Jim,

The photo makes them look higher than they actually are. When a loco passes in the area, the top of the loco is higher then the top of the sand hill. Optical illusion in the photo.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 06:55:37 PM
wow. What a great and unusual scene. Nice work!


John,

Thank you, much appreciated. I'm trying to make each section look much different than the others and every other layout in the world.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 06:58:13 PM
I added the dirt to the south end sand hill.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184603.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184603.jpeg)

When dry I added the first layer of base scenery to the top.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184704.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184704.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
While  the scenery material in the previous photo was drying, I added the barbed wire to the fence posts in the corner section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184617.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184617.jpeg)

I used Hunterline's Medium Brown and stained the thread/barbed wire.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184800.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:03:18 PM
I then dug several post holes and started to add the fence posts to the right side of the farm area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184634.jpeg)

I carried the posts into the corner as this was the edge of the Perkins Farm property.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184649.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184649.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
After several hours, I added the second and third layers of scenery material to the south end.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184815.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184828.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184828.jpeg)

I then applied matte medium to the scenery and let it dry.

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:08:31 PM
I then moved back to the Perkins Farm and set the fence posts. Once the posts were set, I added the barbed wire and stain.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184745.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184842.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184842.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time. Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:19:57 PM
I don't remember if it was John Armstrong or Linn Wescott who first demonstrated how to cut in a turnout using the Midwest Cork Roadbed.

Any how, I still use that method after some 45+ years.

Adding the roadbed correctly will go along way to smoother running trains and looks much more professional than installing it any which way.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717192128.jpeg)



I'll add more of the scenery updates tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on July 12, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
Tom


This is some very fine modeling.  I enjoyed getting caught up with your thread this evening. Thanks for sharing all the details - they really make your thread fun to read.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 12, 2017, 07:44:51 PM
Tom, your modeling is always top notch and sets the standard for the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 01:59:19 PM
Tom


This is some very fine modeling.  I enjoyed getting caught up with your thread this evening. Thanks for sharing all the details - they really make your thread fun to read.


John,

Thank you my friend for the very kind compliment. I'm glad you are following along. This scenery sure has been fun to do.

More this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 02:01:05 PM
Tom, your modeling is always top notch and sets the standard for the rest of us.


Curt,

I do appreciate the very kind compliment. It has been a challenge and fun in doing the scenery.

I'll have more scenery pictures later this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 13, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
I don't remember if it was John Armstrong or Linn Wescott who first demonstrated how to cut in a turnout using the Midwest Cork Roadbed.

Any how, I still use that method after some 45+ years.

Adding the roadbed correctly will go along way to smoother running trains and looks much more professional than installing it any which way.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717192128.jpeg)



I'll add more of the scenery updates tomorrow evening.






ACL 1504,
   
                 As a forum member and a member of the modeling community.  I read & hear articles, comments, forum posts and even videos all stating how modelers today fact overwhelming changes of time & money when modeling a layout or diorama.

Well let me be (if not the first), but at least the next one to say Thank You for explaining, showing & demonstrating tried & true staple techniques on track & switch installations (with respect to proper setup).

You convey a proper & professional product (i.e.-this thread).  I appreciate the time & money you've taken to explain to myself and others how to in fact save both time & money modeling something as important as a simple switch install.

It's a real shame when I see others spend their time & money building & demonstrating their layout installs whilst wasting my time & money buying or viewing how not to build a layout properly the first time.

You are a true inspirational modeler and I get it!  When I follow your example to do modeling, your drilled message hits on target and it makes me stop & think of how I can save time & money doing it right instead of having to go back and keep redoing it in the future where time & money are truly becoming harder to collect.

I hope readers are reading between the lines here and see the real point.  Mr. Robo Cop, keep working your AS on down the line. I'm all eyes!  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 03:05:12 PM
Thom AKA: KP

Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?

I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.

Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.

Tom AKA :KPII
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
I added the fence corner bracing. The ends of the braces have been touched up with A&I.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185132.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185132.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185146.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185146.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 06:56:35 PM
All the trees are now in place on the south end of the layout. The wet areas at the bottom of the sand hill is matte medium. It will dry clear.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184908.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185031.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185031.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185017.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185002.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 06:58:20 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185044.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185044.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
Here are a few photos of the underbrush in the south end trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184854.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184854.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184921.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 07:00:55 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184948.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184948.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184935.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184935.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 13, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
Nice shrubberies, Tom!!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 13, 2017, 08:10:37 PM
Fabulous Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 13, 2017, 10:02:41 PM
Tom,

What else can I say, your scenery is great.  I like how your trees blend with the backdrop and your use of different kinds of trees.

When my wife and I were in New England several weeks ago, I was paying particular attention to the trees, because I am from the West and don't have trees like the East does, and they are different species of trees growing amongst each other.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 14, 2017, 06:08:23 AM
Looks great Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:16:43 AM
Dave,

Thank you, much appreciated. Thank you also for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:17:14 AM
Fabulous Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:20:51 AM
Tom,

What else can I say, your scenery is great.  I like how your trees blend with the backdrop and your use of different kinds of trees.

When my wife and I were in New England several weeks ago, I was paying particular attention to the trees, because I am from the West and don't have trees like the East does, and they are different species of trees growing amongst each other.


Steve,

Thank you, much appreciated. Joey's photo backdrops really help in the blending process. When I decided to add the piney woods, I looked at all the roadway trees I could while driving.

My wife said, one of these days you should also pay attention to the traffic around you. ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:21:21 AM
Looks great Tom.


Mark,

Thanks very much sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 14, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
Reminds me of the Woods on my Uncle's farm in Michigan.  I could almost get lost in them.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 12:04:31 PM
Thom AKA: KP

Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?

I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.

Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.

Tom AKA :KPII





Tom,
           As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir!  Thanx Thom...

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 14, 2017, 12:30:00 PM





Tom,
           As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir!  Thanx Thom...

Perfect

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 04:55:10 PM
Reminds me of the Woods on my Uncle's farm in Michigan.  I could almost get lost in them.

Jim


Jim,

These woods are all over America. I spent many weekends of my youth camping in the woods.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 04:56:26 PM
Thom AKA: KP

Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?

I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.

Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.

Tom AKA :KPII





Tom,
           As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir!  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:03:53 PM
I have something special to share with everyone but don't have the pictures ready yet. Hopefully I'll be able to share this news tomorrow.

It's a new technique in building scenery. I certainly can't take credit for it but I do intend to learn how to do it. 

Okay, I'll get on this tomorrow. In the mean time, I'll share what I've been doing on the A&S RR.

But first, I need to get a fresh Diet Pepsi and then I'll get started.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 05:27:04 PM
Thom,

Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.

Tom ;D
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T~,
           "Patois", hummm, you must have reached up deep to pull that one out! ha.  I admit, I had to look that one up. (yup I used my paper Webster for that one).  Tinx, I learned something new today.  Reminds me of  the old Bill O' Reilly's word of the day he used to post on his non-quiescent show.

Oh can't wait for the special news announcement.  I know it's not a boy or girl.  ;D    Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:32:27 PM
Prior to adding more scenery to the farm area, I wanted to go ahead and build a wood deck bridge. This bridge will allow farmer Perkins to cross the track to his farm.

The bridge will be placed here, between the fence posts and the foreground side of the sand hill.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717172853.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717172853.jpeg)

Back in a few. Got side tracked and forgot the Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
Thom,

Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.

Tom ;D




T~,
           "Patois", hummm, you must have reached up deep to pull that one out! ha.  I admit, I had to look that one up. (yup I used my paper Webster for that one).  Tinx, I learned something new today.  Reminds me of  the old Bill O' Reilly's word of the day he used to post on his non-quiescent show.

Oh can't wait for the special news announcement.  I know it's not a boy or girl.  ;D    Thanx Thom...



Thom,

I did in fact learn the word from Mr. O'Reilly's show. Although I understand why he was fired, I still miss the show.

Webster's definition of PATOIS is some what misleading. But for you and me it simply implies we have a common language spoken between those with a common interest.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.

Here is the one from the old, old layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)


This new one won't be as high as the old one.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:46:39 PM
Here is the old wood vehicle bridge I re-engineered into a coal dump ramp.

The coal dump was used on my old layout, the one prior to this current and last one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170815.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170829.jpeg)

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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:50:22 PM
Here is the coal dump ramp on the old layout. The loco on the siding was used as a helper for the tunnel grade.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174806.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174806.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:55:23 PM
I started by using four posts/bents just a little narrower than the area between the fence posts. I glued a top cap to the four posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170855.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170855.jpeg)

I added one horizontal brace at the bottom and two traverse braces on each side.

I removed some scenery from the base so it would fit flush on the plywood base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170939.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170939.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:02:08 PM
After building one, I placed it on the layout to make sure it was the correct height even though I previously measured the height.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170910.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170910.jpeg)

The bridge is a very simple design but effective. Did I ever mention level is good?

Satisfied with this one, I built the other one.

I made sure the locos and cars would fit under and through the bridge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170924.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170924.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.

Here is the one from the old, old layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)


This new one won't be as high as the old one.

More in a few.



ACL 1504,
              I hope no one watching mistakes this fabulous bridge you built as George's. Damn, wait till GS see's this pic.  ha. He'll think you posted one of his pictures as your own. ha.  nice modeling my friend.  Nice indeed!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
I forgot to mention one important fact.

Reading Bob made me a gift of one of those fancy A&I staining tubes. I got to use it to stain the HO scale wood used in this bridge build.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170800.jpeg)

I'm not showing the actual staining bath process as it has been shown and discussed on many other threads. Shakespeare's Hamlet said, "Brevity is the soul of wit". So, no extra narrative on staining the wood. 8) 8) 8)


I will add the stain was Hunterline Medium Brown A&I.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:16:44 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.

Here is the one from the old, old layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)


This new one won't be as high as the old one.

More in a few.



ACL 1504,
              I hope no one watching mistakes this fabulous bridge you built as George's. Damn, wait till GS see's this pic.  ha. He'll think you posted one of his pictures as your own. ha.  nice modeling my friend.  Nice indeed!  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thank you, much appreciated. Truth be known, I was so impressed with George's wooden planked bridge, I used it as my inspiration for the one in this picture.



No mistaking this one for the very fine one on George's layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717181340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717181340.jpeg)

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
The columns/bents on the bridge are HO scale 10X10s, the bracing used are 2X6's and the cap is also scale 10X10 lumber.

I used scale 8X8's for the common bridge spans which will support the decking.

Here I used two 8X8's to align the bridge supports with the fence posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170955.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170955.jpeg)

My level bubble is not dead center but it is within the lines. I can and will live with this.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171009.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171009.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:38:04 PM
You can see the bridge support structure is slightly off center from each other. It will be a little tricksie in aligning the decking but not impossible.

I used a weight to hold the two supports in place while I marked the location on the plywood.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171022.jpeg)

After marking the location, I tacked the supports in place. As the glue dried I made sure they were set at 90 degrees to the track. Once the glue was dry,  I added the common deck supports and glued them to the caps over the four bents. I let this dry over night.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171043.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171043.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:43:19 PM

I made one final test to ensure it all was correctly aligned.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171112.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171112.jpeg)

The next day I made sure it was all square and nothing shifted during the night.

Did I ever mention level is a good sign things are done correctly. No corners were cut or abused in the making of this bridge. 8) 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171126.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171126.jpeg)


More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 06:50:30 PM
I used a #17 Xacto blade to slip under the outside bents and cut through the "tacked" glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171142.jpeg)

Once removed from the layout, I placed the bridge on the workbench. I used the angle weights from Micro Mark and again made sure the supports and top caps were all at a 90 degree angle.

It was only slightly out of square. I added a little more glue to the underside and reset the angles. You can see the fresh glue on the underside. When dry the glue won't be seen from the top.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171155.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171155.jpeg)

I used two small Irwin Quick Grips to hold the supports against the weights. No picture here, I forgot to take one.

I'll have an update on the bridge in a couple of days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 14, 2017, 07:50:12 PM
Great work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on July 14, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
I think I'd run the Zephyr thru there to make sure the cars clear the bridge. :)


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 06:56:16 AM
Great work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.


Curt,

Thank you. You will soon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 06:57:54 AM
I think I'd run the Zephyr thru there to make sure the cars clear the bridge. :)


Jeff


Jeff,

The Walthers heavyweights, Budd cars and Zephyr dome cars all clear the bridge.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 15, 2017, 01:30:33 PM
SORCERY!! It just has to be. Only sorcery could make that scenery......


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbE80_cFWlKhPmAZ7KmONFxeXhgSFW1PjwGgqEIwn0WPkWFTdW)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
SORCERY!! It just has to be. Only sorcery could make that scenery......


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbE80_cFWlKhPmAZ7KmONFxeXhgSFW1PjwGgqEIwn0WPkWFTdW) (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbE80_cFWlKhPmAZ7KmONFxeXhgSFW1PjwGgqEIwn0WPkWFTdW)


Donato,

Thank you for the kind compliment.

I'll take the magic, send more of that blue flame. I need all the help I can conjure up. 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 02:52:44 PM
The other day I was waiting for scenery to dry so I added more track to the stub. This track comes off the main line and starts the Tahope Division.

The radius is 32".

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185226.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185226.jpeg)

I previously painted the new road as you probably saw in previous photos. When it was dry I found that I had some sand stuck in the dried paint.

I used very fine wet/dry sand paper and smoothed the road. I'll repaint it later.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170746.jpeg)

To be continued later this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 03:38:09 PM
Many many years ago I wanted to try and make the super trees more realistic. I heard where some modelers had some success using silicone to thicken the stems/trunks.

I gave it a try and after a few hours I was fairly pleased with the results. Not pleased enough to use all of them on the old layout. I did use two as foreground trees.

Working with the silicone was difficult in that it wanted to stick to everything, mainly my fingers and everything else. I kept a bowl of water handy and had to constantly drip my fingers in the water to get the silicone smoothed out.

To make this story short I only made six trees. As I mentioned, I only used two.

Here are some photos of the ones I made. Not to bad but not to good either.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717151951.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717151951.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152006.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 03:41:28 PM
That last tree looks like it has some kind of dragon claw foot.  ;D ;D ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152022.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152036.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 03:43:04 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152051.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152051.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152105.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152105.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 03:45:29 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152123.jpeg)


Diet Pepsi break time folks.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
Tom,
          Wow! I like those trees, those are really I eye catching. Thanks for sharing brother.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 03:51:22 PM
Tom,
          Wow! I like those trees, those are really I eye catching. Thanks for sharing brother.  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thank you but wait until you see the new trees I'm going to post in a few more minutes. My trees are nothing compared to the ones coming up my friend.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:10:36 PM
I mentioned yesterday I learned a new way to improve scenery. It actually is improving the SE super trees.

My Babe and I visited with Bill and Kris Cutler yesterday. You will know them as Mr. and Mrs. PennsyJ1. You can view their wonderful layout here.

http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-pennsy-six-miles-west-of-altoona-and-more/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-pennsy-six-miles-west-of-altoona-and-more/)


Kris was showing me some trees she made using what she referred to as mastic. My understanding is that mastic, caulk and/or silicone sealant are pretty much the same with different chemical compounds.

I'm just making a statement so I'm NOT asking some plastic pocket holder person to give me the differences. This is a model railroad forum and not a chemistry class.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
ACL 1504,
              I remember those model makin' fools from the wayback machine.  They're good his wife is awesome at scenery.  Can't wait to see what you learned T.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:21:45 PM
Kris has taken making super trees more super to a new level in my humble opinion.

She takes the mastic and uses a small piece of scale lumber to add/apply the material to the bottom of the super tree trunk. She lets it dry and then paints it a trunk color of her choice.

She recommends adding a little at a time as adding to much at one time greatly lengthens the drying time.

Kris was very gracious and humble about the quality of her work. I'm telling you these are the BEST super tress I've ever seen period. These are perfect foreground trees.

I was the recipient of several of these trees. I can't wait and try my hand at making some of my own. I'll be sharing the process, success or failure here on this thread at a much later time.

I'll be showing where I place the ones she gave me later as well.

The next twelve pictures are her new super trees and mastic trunks. The first picture is the over all tree followed by a close up of the trunk.

Let me know what you think.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152143.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152143.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152157.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152157.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:23:51 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152211.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152257.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
This tree was blown over by Hurricane Charlie.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152311.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152331.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152331.jpeg)

Here is a good view of how she built up the mastic around the thin trunk of the super tree.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152431.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152431.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152347.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152448.jpeg)


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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:29:49 PM
Here is a small tree made from small single branches.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152501.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152514.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 04:31:08 PM
Tom,
        Wow, all of these are awesome!  Man!  Thom likes!  Keep'em coming!  T...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:32:58 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152527.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152527.jpeg)


Aren't these wonderful super trees made even more super by Kris the tree arborist?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:34:42 PM
Tom,
        Wow, all of these are awesome!  Man!  Thom likes!  Keep'em coming!  T...


Thom,

I agree 100%. I have more but they are pretty much the same. You get the idea though of how talented she is in making realistic trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
Yeah?  I guess, If you like that sort of thing.




                               R.U. Kiddin',  Very cool indeed.  Thanks Mrs. Kris... :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 15, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
Yeah?  I guess, If you like that sort of thing.




                               R.U. Kiddin',  Very cool indeed.  Thanks Mrs. Kris... :)


RU kidding me? You know I LOVE THIS SNIT!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 15, 2017, 05:31:00 PM
Great work Kris.....you too Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 15, 2017, 08:21:09 PM
Best Trees I have seen since I looked out my window at the real thing.

Outstanding job Kris.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 15, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
Kris does an awesome job on making trees. Tom, you are no slouch either. ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 16, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
Great work Kris.....you too Tom.  8)


Greg,

Thank you for commenting on Kris' beautiful trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 16, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
Best Trees I have seen since I looked out my window at the real thing.

Outstanding job Kris.

Jim


Jim,

I appreciate you following along and commenting on Kris' wonderful super trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 16, 2017, 10:21:31 AM
Kris does an awesome job on making trees. Tom, you are no slouch either. ;D


Curt,

Thanks for the two compliments, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
I finished the scratch built wood deck bridge this afternoon. I won't bore ya'll with a lot of narrative unless I want to explain why I did what I did.

I believe the pictures will give you the idea on how I built the bridge.

I added the deck support beams and used weights to hold it in place until the glue set, not dry.

The big glue gobs are for extra holding power while working on the bridge. Once finished, none of the dried glue will be visible.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152712.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152712.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152725.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Once the glue set, I marked on the blue foam where the deck support beams ended. I then removed some of the blue foam, just enough to let the approach section of the bridge sit on the top of the foam.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164113.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164113.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164045.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164045.jpeg)

You can see now why I didn't want the glue to dry. I wanted to add the weights and let the bridge and beams dry in the position level with the foam not on top of it.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:01:43 PM
I also added 12X12 scale lumber beams for support at the top of each side of the sand hill for a little additional support.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164100.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164100.jpeg)


I used a metal square to mark where the scale 2X8 decking boards are placed. To make it look prototypical, the boards are set perpendicular to the the support beams.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164143.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164143.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:10:36 PM
I glued the first HO scale 2X8 deck board in place. I then used an Emory board and rounded the edges of the support beams for a smoother area for the deck boards.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717170445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717170445.jpeg)

The 2X8's were added. I'm almost finished. There are a lot of deck boards.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164128.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164128.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:12:16 PM
A total of 116 scale 2X8's were used for the decking.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164157.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164157.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164210.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164210.jpeg)

Continued after I find a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:16:44 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164224.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164224.jpeg)


Traverse bracing was added under the deck.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164238.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164238.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164250.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164250.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164324.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164339.jpeg)


One side of the railing is finished.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164353.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
All done!

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164409.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164451.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164451.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164505.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 17, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
Those 'farm bridge' overpasses are more commonly seen than modeled, particularly in the 50s and earlier.   Looks great!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
Dave,

Thank you, very much appreciated.

As a small boy, my father would take me downtown in Vandalia, IL and we would stand in the middle of the wood bridge and wait for the steam trains. The one we used had a pedestrian walkway on the sides. It was also in the early 50's.

When I was last in Vandalia, the old wood bridge was replaced with a concrete one. My mother was born in Vandalia, IL.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 17, 2017, 05:33:47 PM
Wow , you are good.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on July 17, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
A good blend of dainty and rugged modelling. Good choice!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 17, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Tom, WOW, WOW, WOW. The bridge looks incredible. If I remember right your layout tours start later this week. I wish you all the best with the visitors.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on July 17, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
Hi Tom:

Very nice bridge & scenery.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 17, 2017, 08:13:18 PM
Great job Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on July 17, 2017, 08:34:51 PM
Love it! Great way to "break the train"...one of my favorite mini-scenes on the FSM...that one's a little roughed up though


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 18, 2017, 05:57:58 AM
The bridge is great......the scene fantastic.  Nice work Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on July 18, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
The whole thing looks wonderful Tom!  The bridge is a terrific addition to the scene.

I hope you found that stain tub useful.  I think it speeds things up a bit. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 18, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
Hi Tom,

The weathering on the bridge looks very good.  The colors are just perfect.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 18, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
(http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors76/tmb/daniel-craig-quote-im-kind-of-speechless-at-the-moment.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 19, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
Tom,
       Enjoy the pictorials as always my friend! Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
Hello everyone. I got knocked off the web for a couple of days and haven't posted to your comments. I'll do that later this afternoon/evening.

I also have some layout updates to share.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on July 20, 2017, 08:55:47 AM
Tom


The bridge looks great! It's amazing how life changes without the internet - even if just for a few days.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 09:17:49 AM
Tom


The bridge looks great! It's amazing how life changes without the internet - even if just for a few days.


John,

You are correct. I first thought, OMG, what am I going to do! Then I realized I'd do the same thing I did as a kid, prior to TV, cell phones, girls, internet, filling the wood box and my mother making me pull sand spurs out of the yard for .10 an hour.

I'll work on the layout and then read for a while.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Over the past few days I was able to get quite a bit done on the layout. Not big projects but just cleaning up some and finishing others.

I finally got the oil stains down on the corner gas station area.

I used Pan Pastels and their sponge for the stain.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175259.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175259.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175247.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175247.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:26:18 PM
Here is an overall view of the East side of the layout.  From here to the end, South wall, is 34 feet.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175104.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175131.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:28:11 PM
I also added weeds down the middle of the tracks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175144.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175144.jpeg)

I just realized I need to paint the ties on the bridge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175206.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175206.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on July 20, 2017, 05:39:23 PM
Great. As usual. Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175231.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175231.jpeg)


And now back looking back North.

 Referring to the photo above you can also see I've done more work in the farm area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175118.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175118.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:41:11 PM
Great. As usual. Jim




Jim,

Thank you, very much appreciated. I just remembered I didn't answer the others.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:42:25 PM
Wow , you are good.


Jan,

Thank you for the compliment. Not sure how good I am but I'm getting lots and lots of practice.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:43:18 PM
A good blend of dainty and rugged modelling. Good choice!


Marty,

I very much appreciate the compliment. Thank you sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:45:02 PM
Tom, WOW, WOW, WOW. The bridge looks incredible. If I remember right your layout tours start later this week. I wish you all the best with the visitors.


Curt,

Thank you as always for checking in, much appreciated. My open house is on August 5, 2017 from 9 AM top 5 PM.

If you get a chance, you are always welcome.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
Hi Tom:

Very nice bridge & scenery.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you my friend, very much appreciated. This was a fun build. A little tricksie but still fun.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:46:51 PM
Great job Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
Love it! Great way to "break the train"...one of my favorite mini-scenes on the FSM...that one's a little roughed up though


John


John,

Thank you, I've been wanting to build another wood bridge crossover for quite some time. I love the scene of the wood deck bridge on George's layout. His inspired me to build mine.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:49:41 PM
The bridge is great......the scene fantastic.  Nice work Tom!


Mark,

Thank you for the kind compliment. I hope one day soon you'll be able to visit see the layout in person.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:51:40 PM
The whole thing looks wonderful Tom!  The bridge is a terrific addition to the scene.

I hope you found that stain tub useful.  I think it speeds things up a bit.


Bob,

Thank you, much appreciate your support. I think the bridge ties the entire area together. The scene would be incomplete with it.

The stain tub was just what the doctor ordered. It saved a lot of time for sure. Thank You.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:52:50 PM
Hi Tom,

The weathering on the bridge looks very good.  The colors are just perfect.


Steve,

Your kind compliment is much appreciated. Thank you sir. I'm very pleased with the results.

Tom ;D


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:54:09 PM
(http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors76/tmb/daniel-craig-quote-im-kind-of-speechless-at-the-moment.jpg) (http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors76/tmb/daniel-craig-quote-im-kind-of-speechless-at-the-moment.jpg)


Donato,

Okay, I understand. Take a deep breath and start over.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
Tom,
       Enjoy the pictorials as always my friend! Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thank you and you are welcome.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:56:25 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175314.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175314.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175328.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175328.jpeg)


Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 05:59:24 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175343.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175356.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175356.jpeg)


From the area in the photo above is an additional 8.5 feet of layout. The East wall is approximately 42.5 feet in length.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 06:01:24 PM
From the corner scenery to the end of the tree line, left to right, is just under 14 feet.

Looking West -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175409.jpeg)

looking East -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175422.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175422.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 06:05:38 PM
Teaser picture. More tomorrow, I'm getting another very bad electrical storm so I'm pulling the plug.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200717180405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200717180405.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 20, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 21, 2017, 06:51:34 AM
Beautiful scenes as usual Tom. I'm hoping to get down your way sometime in October.  I need to see your layout in person.  Your progress is really astonishing.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on July 21, 2017, 08:00:12 AM
That's one of the best photos/mini-scenes I've seen on your layout...and I've seen a lot of good ones. Great modeling. Captured the feel of the region and time for sure.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on July 21, 2017, 11:27:06 AM
Hi Tom:

Great looking little backwoods house.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 21, 2017, 12:28:30 PM
Taking your advice Tom......


(http://myzone.hrvfitltd.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Keep-calm-and-Breathe-257x300.png)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on July 22, 2017, 10:10:17 AM
Tic toc Tic Toc
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jbvb on July 22, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
I like the sense of spaciousness you've achieved.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Beautiful work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:44:26 PM
Beautiful scenes as usual Tom. I'm hoping to get down your way sometime in October.  I need to see your layout in person.  Your progress is really astonishing.


Mark,

Thank you, looking forward to seeing you in October. If it works out for you anyway.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
That's one of the best photos/mini-scenes I've seen on your layout...and I've seen a lot of good ones. Great modeling. Captured the feel of the region and time for sure.


John


John,

Thank you. I guess I should be honest and say it was a lucky shot!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:46:47 PM
Hi Tom:

Great looking little backwoods house.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks, the little farm house on the F&SM was the inspiration. This one is scratch built. Hard to believe it has been almost 20+ years since I built it.

Tom ;D

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:47:54 PM
Taking your advice Tom......


(http://myzone.hrvfitltd.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Keep-calm-and-Breathe-257x300.png) (http://myzone.hrvfitltd.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Keep-calm-and-Breathe-257x300.png)


Donato,


Now we're talking.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:54:05 PM
Tic toc Tic Toc


Marty,

It reminds me of the syncopated clock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrpdQngwk2g


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
I like the sense of spaciousness you've achieved.


James,

Much appreciated, thank you. I wanted the viewer to feel like each scene was separate from the others and that the train was traveling further than the confines of the layout.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:02:15 PM
The area between the layout edge and the track, across from the farm, is going to be a cow pasture.

Cows need a watering hole so I had to dig one out of the blue earth.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151312.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151312.jpeg)

I used rough sandpaper to round off the edges and then used spackle to grade the pond.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151327.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151327.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:06:19 PM
Installing a fence was next. I used the Central Valley plastic (wood fence) pieces.

I pushed the fence posts into the foam and leveled the fence using my small bubble level. When satisfied with the fence, I used a toothpick and applied a little white glue to bottom of the posts to hold them in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151407.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151407.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151424.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151424.jpeg)

I decided it would be easier to install the fence prior to adding scenery.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
I let the glue dry over night. The fence was firmly in place at this point.

I used Tamiya Flat White to paint the fence posts and rails.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151439.jpeg)


I also added the road to the pasture.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151541.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151541.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi break time, back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:18:07 PM
I then moved back to the Suwannee River Basin area to finish the area between the lagoon and the layout edge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151553.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151607.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
After the first layer of sand was dry, I added a thin layer of Fine Dirt from Scenic Express. The dirt matches the road leading up to the wooden bridge over pass.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151455.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151455.jpeg)

I applied white glue to the area beside the road for the first layer of ground/scenery material.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151512.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151512.jpeg)
More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
When this dries, I'll add more layers of scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151526.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151526.jpeg)

I painted the cow pond and noticed I need to add a little more spackle to smooth out the bottom and edges.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151354.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151354.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151340.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Here are some extra pictures of the farm area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151622.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151622.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151637.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151637.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 22, 2017, 04:32:49 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151652.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151652.jpeg)


Here is a view of my 38 foot work bench. The work bench will eventually become the town of Tahope with track and a reverse loop. 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151707.jpeg)


I'll have more to add tomorrow afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 22, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
Beautiful Tom. You are a craftsman.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on July 22, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
I hope the workbench area and reverse loop we be working and have full scenery by the time of the convention.   ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 07:50:38 AM
Beautiful Tom. You are a craftsman.


Curt,

Thank you for the very kind and generous compliment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 07:52:28 AM
I hope the workbench area and reverse loop we be working and have full scenery by the time of the convention.   ;D


Jeff


Jeff,

You are funny Doc! No, is the answer to that. I won't even start it until I get the third level bench work up.

I need the space for making the third level decking.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 23, 2017, 08:57:13 AM
Y'all ought to see it in person.....photos don't do it justice.  8)

Just to get back in character.....if you hadn't been slacking so much since the holidays, you would have been able to get Tahope done in time for the convention.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jbvb on July 23, 2017, 10:49:14 AM
Most modelers have a workbench with about one square foot of open area, but you've achieved that in about 100 sq. ft.!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: madharry on July 23, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Nice work Tom.
Mike :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:00:06 PM
Y'all ought to see it in person.....photos don't do it justice.  8)

Just to get back in character.....if you hadn't been slacking so much since the holidays, you would have been able to get Tahope done in time for the convention.  ;)


Greg,

Thank you for the generous compliment on the layout work. It has been a whole bunch of fun. Not like a bunch of bananas, but fun.

Enjoyed yesterday and thanks for helping me move the plywood.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:03:50 PM
Most modelers have a workbench with about one square foot of open area, but you've achieved that in about 100 sq. ft.!


James,

I realize I have much more space than many modelers and much less than others. This is all I can handle. It would indeed be nice to have that big of a work bench area. However, I'm looking forward to building the City of Tahope in the middle.

Thanks for checking in on the thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:04:44 PM
Nice work Tom.
Mike :)


Mike,

Thank you for the kind words and for stopping by the thread. I appreciate it.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:20:11 PM
I mentioned I was going to do a cow pasture and now I've decided to have a barn for milking cows.

Beef cattle will be in the pasture and the milk cows in the barn area. There is no science in keeping them apart but I do plan on having a couple of bulls in the pasture so I need to limit the milk cows in the main pasture.

I'm going to use the BTS Prichard's Barn. I don't necessarily like the look. I plan on kit bashing it later to my liking, as in after the NMRA, but for now I'm only going to use the framing. More on this later in the week.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163810.jpeg)


The barn will be located in the area as seen in the below photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163824.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
You can see the scenery has already been added and will need to be removed. I measured the width of the barn and marked it on the fence. That section of the fence was removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163838.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163838.jpeg)

I used a small metal square and drew lines in the scenery. The scenery between the lines will be removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163851.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163851.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:29:51 PM
Here is how I removed the scenery. The base was glued down with Elmer's White Glue. The additional layers were secured with matte medium.

Both the glue and matte medium will soften when water is added. So, I added/soaked the area with water and let it soak in for about 15 minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163904.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163904.jpeg)

I then used a putty knife and gently removed the scenery.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163917.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163917.jpeg)

A little messy but easy peasy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163937.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163937.jpeg)

Ya'll know what time it is. Back after grabbing a fresh Diet Pepsi from the fridge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 23, 2017, 04:30:34 PM
 A barn-raising would be a great scene.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Dave,

That is some what of what I'll have. I'll have the frame up but not much else. I do want to kit bash it later.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
I added another layer of scenery to the pasture gate area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164006.jpeg)

While that was drying, I added more spackle to the area where the spackle dried and cracked.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163952.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
I painted white glue on the entire pasture area and added the first layer of ground scenery.

Where the white glue showed through as it was drying, I added more ground scenery until I couldn't see any white glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170647.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170647.jpeg)

I let this dry over night. I then used a soft bristle brush and swept up the excess scenery material. This material will live to be given the chance to be scenery else where on the layout.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170702.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
In a few days I'll be moving back to the area shown below. I plan to update the scenery here and add a few more trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164140.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164154.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164154.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:20:32 PM
Ma Perkins added a few flowers in front of the small cracker house.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164020.jpeg)

I appears the chimney is in need of repair. I think I see a few chimney bricks laying on the roof.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164056.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:26:21 PM
Over night a huge oak tree grew next to the house.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172409.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164038.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164038.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:32:12 PM
I added the final layer of scenery and a tall tree next to the bridge area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172933.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172933.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172945.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172945.jpeg)

This is the wrong location for this tree and it has since been removed and replaced with a smaller one.

I'll show the new scene tomorrow or the next day.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 23, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Two extra pictures.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164126.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164110.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 23, 2017, 07:30:46 PM
Truly outstanding work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 23, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
When looking at the photo with the workbench, you can't help but realize that Tom is not only a Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.
 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 24, 2017, 03:16:48 AM
Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.

I always thought that was impossible to combine, but Tom proves me wrong, I would be happy being one of the two , preferably the first if I had to choose  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: richbeau on July 24, 2017, 07:49:42 AM
Wonderful work. I love spacious layouts with space between destinations. As an operator you feel like you've really traveled somewhere. You have created this the illusion quite well.
--Rich
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Truly outstanding work Tom.


Curt,

I truly thank you my friend.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 05:41:31 PM
When looking at the photo with the workbench, you can't help but realize that Tom is not only a Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.


Donato,

I sure got you fooled. Are we talking about the same me?

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 05:42:28 PM
Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.

I always thought that was impossible to combine, but Tom proves me wrong, I would be happy being one of the two , preferably the first if I had to choose  ;)


Jan,

Looks like I reeled you in also. And, I don't even fish! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
Wonderful work. I love spacious layouts with space between destinations. As an operator you feel like you've really traveled somewhere. You have created this the illusion quite well.
--Rich


Rich,

Thank you. The look you mentioned was exactly the effect I was going for. I you follow a train around my layout you will seem to travel between 10 to 11 different scenes. The trip around the room is approximately 110 feet.

Again, thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
I have Donato and Jan thinking I'm neat and organized. If neat and organized is what you see in the next two pictures, I'd really hate to see not neat and unorganized.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172931.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172931.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172943.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172943.jpeg)

Just saying.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
I added and weathered the remaining switch stands to all the turnouts on the second level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173002.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:13:04 PM
I mentioned yesterday I removed the tall tree and replaced it with one that better fits the landscape.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173016.jpeg)

Reading Bob and I are co-owners in a NOCH Grass Master. I used it the past few days for the firs time since we purchased it.

The next several pictures are of the farm area. I'm not going into all the steps of how I did the pasture. The only difference in the layered scenery is the fact I used the grass master instead of the middle two layers.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173045.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:15:33 PM
The ruts for the truck were made while the scenery was still damp. I rolled the truck from the front gate to the rear and applied a little pressure so the ruts would show in the grass.

I then used SE fine dirt and sprinkled it into both ruts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173031.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173045.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:19:23 PM
The beef cattle are Preiser figures and are about 30+ years old.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173058.jpeg)

The truck is a mini-metal and dusted with the SE fine dirt. Some dust must have been sucked into the air filter and into the carburetor.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173115.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:20:55 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173743.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173756.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 24, 2017, 06:22:50 PM
I'll add water to the cow pond in a few days.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173142.jpeg)

Looking North -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173812.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time I'm finished for the day.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 24, 2017, 06:27:08 PM
Tom, I love the dirt track and of course everything else also.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 24, 2017, 06:27:40 PM
ACL 1504,
            Wow!!! 👍👍 Very realistic scene.  I believe if I look close enough, I can see cow patties?  You absolutely have a great eye for modeling, even to the point that if Allen Keller was still filming Great Model Railroads, this layout would have been in catalog. No doubt to me...  It's my honor to say I know TL.  Keep squeezin' that glue bottle my friend!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bagman on July 24, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Very nice scenery work there Tom.
I recall Lance Mindheim saying that scenes such as you have created help to break up the "city scenes" and thus make the layout appear larger.
You are doing excellent work on your layout. Congrats !

And yes, I agree with you Thom. It's a shame there isn't an "Allen Keller" around these days as there are some really fine looking layouts that feature on this forum that would be deserving of a visit.


David

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 25, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Neat and Organized , just got replaced by Fooling Others  ;) , haha you had us good Tom. But if that's what it takes to become a master scenery artist I have no problems at all with Clutter and Debris
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 25, 2017, 04:15:19 PM
Hi Tom,

Your cattle pasture is looking great, and I like the story you are telling with the LP.  The guy with the broken down pickup better not agitate that bull.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:35:44 PM
Tom, I love the dirt track and of course everything else also.


Curt,

Thank you, the dirt road was an after thought. I remember seeing the well worn path of the farmer's vehicle in many pastures around central Florida.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
ACL 1504,
            Wow!!! 👍👍 Very realistic scene.  I believe if I look close enough, I can see cow patties?  You absolutely have a great eye for modeling, even to the point that if Allen Keller was still filming Great Model Railroads, this layout would have been in catalog. No doubt to me...  It's my honor to say I know TL.  Keep squeezin' that glue bottle my friend!  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Thank you sir, and yes, you did see a cow patty. I think I dropped three or four, didn't have any others. This is a clean pasture. For now anyway.

I guess I came along to late in the game for Keller. Oh well, it would have been nice.

Again, thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
Very nice scenery work there Tom.
I recall Lance Mindheim saying that scenes such as you have created help to break up the "city scenes" and thus make the layout appear larger.
You are doing excellent work on your layout. Congrats !

And yes, I agree with you Thom. It's a shame there isn't an "Allen Keller" around these days as there are some really fine looking layouts that feature on this forum that would be deserving of a visit.


David


David,

Thank you, very much appreciate the kind compliment on the layout and my work. I've really enjoyed making the different scenes. I like the idea on the layout that it appears to go several different locations in one turn around the room.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:45:08 PM
Neat and Organized , just got replaced by Fooling Others  ;) , haha you had us good Tom. But if that's what it takes to become a master scenery artist I have no problems at all with Clutter and Debris


Jan,

I thought you two were kidding at first! Then I realized in looking at the pictures it did appear to be an organized area. But as you know, it wasn't what it seemed.

I have all kind of stuff, tools, materials, etc. all over the place when I'm working on a scene or scenery. Not sure it ever gets fully cleaned up - just pushed away for more work space.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:47:59 PM
Hi Tom,

Your cattle pasture is looking great, and I like the story you are telling with the LP.  The guy with the broken down pickup better not agitate that bull.


Steve,

Thank you for the kind support on the layout work. The bull is looking for some hay, I think. ;D  Farmer Perkins is keeping the truck between him and the bull.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 04:48:58 PM
I've been working on the layout for 10 hours now. Going to take a break and then post some updates on the days progress.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 25, 2017, 05:11:50 PM
My classmate who lives in VT was telling me about the herd of cows that got spooked in a recent storm and wandered into their yard.  They stomped on some newly planted flowers and left "souvenirs" all over the yard.  They were not amused, but chalked it up to "Life in the Northeast Kingdom" (that part of VT that borders Canada and overhangs NH.)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:39:01 PM
I decided I could better utilize the space at the south end of the layout. Several years ago, Reading Bob and I made a swap of FOS' Caldwell Junction. He gave me the diorama he built and I gave him my still in the box kit.

Of course I had to remove the structures from the diorama and rearrange the building fit my area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162425.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162439.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
My classmate who lives in VT was telling me about the herd of cows that got spooked in a recent storm and wandered into their yard.  They stomped on some newly planted flowers and left "souvenirs" all over the yard.  They were not amused, but chalked it up to "Life in the Northeast Kingdom" (that part of VT that borders Canada and overhangs NH.)


dave


Dave,

Great story. Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:46:42 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162452.jpeg)


The track to the left leads to the south end of the Ovalix. From this track you can reverse the train or enter the Ovalix and go down to staging. I you change your mind, you can exit the north end of the Ovalix and continue onto the mainline.

The center track is the mainline and the curved track on the right is the lead in to the City of Tahope.

You see the Caldwell Junction building fit in quite well here.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162505.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:51:15 PM
I worked on the reverse loop area late this morning.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg)

I intend to have the scenery hide the two Tortoise switch motors in the back ground.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162518.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162518.jpeg)

I won't be using any structures for this but will use thick under growth on the left and trees in the center diamond area.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:55:31 PM
In the above picture you can see some blue wall just below the photo back drop. I painted this area brown to blend in with the thick under growth when added.

I had to reach down from the top of the Ovalix to start the scenery in this area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162543.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162543.jpeg)

Fast forward here and I'm waiting on the glue to dry prior to adding more scenery layers.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162558.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162558.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:59:10 PM
I moved back to Caldwell Junction. After several hours of seeing the structures in this location, I drew lines where the connecting road will be.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162633.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162633.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162648.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162648.jpeg)


You can also see in the two photos above I ballasted the track on the spur and curve.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 25, 2017, 06:01:01 PM
... Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o   


Tom ;D
He works in IT, so I'm sure he has substantial professional experience with cow patties and those who produce and manage them :-) :-)  After a career in that line of work, I'm an expert in bovine effluent.

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162714.jpeg)


The building were removed and glue was applied to the road area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162728.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162728.jpeg)

Continued after I find a very cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
... Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o


Tom ;D
He works in IT, so I'm sure he has substantial professional experience with cow patties and those who produce and manage them :-) :-)





dave



Yes, you are correct about that. I know he sees plenty of chit during the day.

We use to have a saying in the police department. "One Philistine slew a thousand Romans with the jaw bone of a ass. Our managers use the same weapon 1900 years later."

And, then I became one of the managers. ;D ;D ;D  However, I always remembered where I can from, a rookie.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 06:14:38 PM
I spread the white glue and added a base layer of sand for the dirt road.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162740.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162740.jpeg)

Fast forward back to the diamond area. The area is now ready for some trees and thick bushes to hide the corner.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg)

Done for this day.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jbvb on July 25, 2017, 06:27:36 PM
I use little blobs of Raw Umber artist's acrylic paint for cow flops - give 'em a day or two to dry because they're thicker than normal paint work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 06:44:28 PM
I use little blobs of Raw Umber artist's acrylic paint for cow flops - give 'em a day or two to dry because they're thicker than normal paint work.


James,

Great idea, thanks, I'll try it.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 25, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Excellent work Tom. I can't believe how quick you are also!

PS- Did you get the PM I sent you yesterday? I may have sent it to the wrong person :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:31:26 AM
Excellent work Tom. I can't believe how quick you are also!

PS- Did you get the PM I sent you yesterday? I may have sent it to the wrong person :o


Curt,

Thank you as always sir. Yes, I did get it and sent a reply. I'll resend it.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on July 26, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote.  As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps?  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 26, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote.  As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps?  Jim
Jim for the Win, best quote of the day!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 11:31:02 AM

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 26, 2017, 12:57:07 PM

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.

The Storms do not appear to have caused a problem with the Internet (Spectrum), but my phone does not work again (AT&T)

Welcome to the Lightning Capital of the world.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on July 26, 2017, 01:11:58 PM

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.


Provider?
Reads more like a non-provider to me.
Does the "provider", by any chance, start with a "C"?  :(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 02:49:27 PM

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.


Provider?
Reads more like a non-provider to me.
Does the "provider", by any chance, start with a "C"?  :(


If I remember correctly it starts with a "S".....used to start with a "B".  :-\
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
Back on line but not sure for how long. My modem got hit so its only guess work when it stays on. Specturm says they can be here early next week.

Anyway in the mean time, I'm bypassing the modem using an Ethernet cable and it seems to work for the most part.

I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!

My 2 cents worth for today.

I'll have a few updates later this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
Back on line but not sure for how long. My modem got hit so its only guess work when it stays on. Specturm says they can be here early next week.

Anyway in the mean time, I'm bypassing the modem using an Ethernet cable and it seems to work for the most part.

I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!

My 2 cents worth for today.

I'll have a few updates later this evening.

Tom ;D


Ya gotta watch the BS.....seems to be a lot of it going around lately..... :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on July 26, 2017, 05:16:38 PM

I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!

Tom ;D


Tom,
Look at the upside.
If you scrape up some of that BS, you won't have to figure out how to recreate it in the new pasture!  ;) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:17:03 PM

I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!

Tom ;D


Tom,
Look at the upside.
If you scrape up some of that BS, you won't have to figure out how to recreate it in the new pasture!  ;) 8)


Chip,

Hmm, food for thought. Er, maybe food is the wrong word here. ::) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:20:11 PM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote.  As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps?  Jim


Jim,

Thank you for the kind words of support on the layout. If I start early in the morning the day goes really fast and so far, no naps. But then I'm usually asleep by 8 PM.  8) 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:21:07 PM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote.  As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps?  Jim
Jim for the Win, best quote of the day!


dave


I agree!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
I liked how the orange grove dirt turned out so I thought I'd try the same method on the dirt area around Caldwell Junction.

On the orange grove I applied a layer of real Florida sand and then added the WS Earth on top of that. As it was drying, I sifted on a light layer of sand followed by another light layer of WS Earth.

On this road I applied a base layer of sand over white glue. I added matte medium and another light layer of sand. As it was drying I sifted some SE Fine Dirt.

I'll let you know tomorrow how it turned out, good or bad.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183642.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183702.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 06:57:53 PM
Farmer Perkins had Langford Construction Co. pour a foundation for the barn walls. Notice how neat the crew was in cleaning up all the construction debris.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183714.jpeg)

After the foundation was set and dry, the carpenters added the barn framing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183727.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183727.jpeg)

You can see how the framing is scarred and burnt from the laser. I'll paint it with either Floquil Earth of Foundation.

I'm not happy with the look of the BTS barn as it isn't southern enough for me. The roof just doesn't look correct to me. I probably is but I still don't like it. After the NMRA Open House. I'll replace the barn with one that is more fitting of the South.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 07:00:30 PM
I added the grass and weeds between the tracks - mainline and siding. I also added the weeds and some growth to the sides of the road. I taped the road to keep glue and water off.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183742.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183742.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183757.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183757.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 07:05:29 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183812.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183812.jpeg)

For several hours this fine day I tried to get the internet back up and running. During this time I also made another 75+ trees. I painted them early this morning with Ace Hardware Gray Primer. They were dry after 30 minutes.

Over the next 6 hours I added different types foliage and colors.

Here are about 30 of the 75.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183825.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183825.jpeg)

These will be used to fill in the diamond area shown below. Repeat picture.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg)

Done for the day.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 26, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on July 27, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
Hi Tom:

Beautiful work as usual.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 27, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
I suspect it's the steep roof on that barn that bothers you.  Snow loadings aren't a problem in your neck of the woods :-) :-)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:31:20 PM
Beautiful work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you as always for stopping by and posting a comment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:32:20 PM
Hi Tom:

Beautiful work as usual.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you for the kind remark, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:33:23 PM
I suspect it's the steep roof on that barn that bothers you.  Snow loadings aren't a problem in your neck of the woods :-) :-)


dave


Dave,

You are correct.  I need a southern style barn. I'm working on that project.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:40:32 PM
Reporting back on the dirt road.

I'm very pleased with the results. NO CRACKING! Woo Hoo!

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172638.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172653.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172653.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:43:41 PM
The white glue leveled out a little and when the sand was added it leveled even more. You can see the structure doesn't fit flush/level now.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172707.jpeg)

I marked where the structure should sit and cut through the sand and glue,


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172722.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172722.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:49:57 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172735.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172735.jpeg)


I then used a new old #17 blade to removed the glued sand. I say "new old" in that it is a new #17 blade but only beveled on one side/edge. Xacto's new #17 blades are beveled on both edges and aren't worth a crap. Fortunately I have a modest supply of the old style blades.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172748.jpeg)

To be continued after locating a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
Using the beveled edge face down, it slips under the glue and the dried glue and sand simply pop up.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172804.jpeg)

To smooth the area, I use #220 wet or dry sand paper to sand the sand. ??? ???


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172834.jpeg)


More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:57:28 PM
You can see now the corners are sharp and clean for the building.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172847.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172847.jpeg)

Now the building sits flush on the assigned piece of real estate.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172904.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172904.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 05:59:48 PM
The other building were cut in the same way.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172926.jpeg)

Here is how they look with the dirt area around and between the buildings.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172947.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172947.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717173001.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717173001.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 06:03:47 PM
I used blue painters tape to cover the foot print of the buildings.

I'm going to add some scenery here and didn't want to cover the building foot prints with foliage.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180221.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180221.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 27, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
This morning I also added the thick underbrush to the back side.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180237.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180237.jpeg)

I added two trees between the current tree line and the underbrush. This ties the two together.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180253.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180253.jpeg)

I have more to show but am just to tired to post anymore this evening. Check back tomorrow for more updates.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 05:17:39 PM
I got a few trees planted in the reverse loop area. I'll add some underbrush in and around the trees. Right now they look a little to sterile for me.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170804.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170804.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170817.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170817.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
This next picture shows you an angle you won't see when the third level is installed.

I wanted to show the trees do an excellent job of hiding the Tortoise Switch Motors.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170830.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170830.jpeg)

Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 05:26:19 PM
Yesterday, I also worked on the road and the scenery around the road.

The white lines and RR cross bucks were added. Some scenery on the left sand slope was added as well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170858.jpeg)

The road was weathered and more hill side scenery was added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170913.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170913.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Several of the trees Kris Cutler made me are now planted on the corner area of the sand hill.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170927.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170927.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time and more pictures need to be loaded.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 28, 2017, 05:52:00 PM
Tom,
After all the fantastic modeling you've been doin', you enjoy your dp.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
Tom,
After all the fantastic modeling you've been doin', you enjoy your dp.  KP-out...


Thom,

Yepper, I have it in my cold little fingers as we speak. Thank you also for the kind words on the layout work.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
Starting early this morning, I continued the work on the Caldwell Junction structures and scenery.

The garage structure is raised and on the diorama it had a dirt ramp leading up to the garage doors.

I made a small ramp out of A&I stained 8x8s. Added some white glue in the center and partially filled it with sand.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717174952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717174952.jpeg)


I wet the sand and added matte medium. While it was drying I move to the other in line buildings.

I removed the blue painters tape and cleaned the foot prints.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175006.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
I then added the building.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175021.jpeg)

You can also see how the green garage fits with the ramp.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175034.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175034.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
I added a short section of track for the hand car shed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175050.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175106.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175106.jpeg)


Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
I'll fast forward here to say the hand car shed track was ballasted, the rest of the grass scenery and dirt was added. I have many many additional details to be added to this area but the basic scene is complete.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175123.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175123.jpeg)

Yes, that is a Raymo truck. The dirt ramp turned out really well.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175140.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175206.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175233.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
The roof on the hand car shed needs to be touched up a little.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175245.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175245.jpeg)

A few MOW pieces of rolling stock were set out on the siding.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175258.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175258.jpeg)

That's is all for today folks.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 28, 2017, 06:19:01 PM
What he say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 28, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
Pam loves it as do I!

KPII
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: madharry on July 28, 2017, 07:13:47 PM
Very Nice Tom, I  builit the same kit but with North-easthern flavour. Good luck with the convention.............

Mike
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on July 28, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
I like the way the south end is turning out.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 28, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
Great modeling Tom. I love the new MOW section.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 29, 2017, 06:26:43 AM
Beautiful work Tom.  Your progress is amazing.  Are you sure you don't have like a thousand Minions working at night?  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on July 29, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
(http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 29, 2017, 02:06:26 PM
(http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg) (http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg)
Where's the Diet Pepsi/Coke?


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:01:49 AM
Very Nice Tom, I  builit the same kit but with North-easthern flavour. Good luck with the convention.............

Mike




Mike,

Much appreciated, thank you. Six more days.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:02:40 AM
I like the way the south end is turning out.  8)


Greg,

Thanks, I'm very pleased with the result.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:04:01 AM
Great modeling Tom. I love the new MOW section.


Curt,

As always, thank you for the kind words of support. I'm happy with the look as well. Many more detail will be added but after the conference.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
Beautiful work Tom.  Your progress is amazing.  Are you sure you don't have like a thousand Minions working at night?  :)


Mark,

Your support and kind compliment are appreciated. I has been fun and when every day is Saturday, a lot can be accomplished. ;D ;D ;D


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
(http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg) (http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg)


It appears they aren't drinking anything.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on July 30, 2017, 02:14:00 PM
(http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg) (http://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/40/94/GobkI8.jpg)


It appears they aren't drinking anything.
And that's clearly not prototypical!  You get docked NMRA Achievement Award points for conformance.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Dave,

I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on July 30, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
Dave,

I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)


Tom ;D

They can build anything, but they drink the other brand.
(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/mediahomework-cocacolaandminions-130930081707-phpapp02/95/coca-cola-and-minions-5-638.jpg?cb=1380529062)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
Dave,

I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)


Tom ;D

They can build anything, but they drink the other brand.
(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/mediahomework-cocacolaandminions-130930081707-phpapp02/95/coca-cola-and-minions-5-638.jpg?cb=1380529062) (https://image.slidesharecdn.com/mediahomework-cocacolaandminions-130930081707-phpapp02/95/coca-cola-and-minions-5-638.jpg?cb=1380529062)


Jan,

Now that is better, even if it is Coke. Looking like a team effort.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
I did more work on the layout this afternoon and should be ready to post later this evening.

Gotta find a Diet Pepsi as the Coke Boys made me thirsty.

Back in about 30 minutes.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 05:46:26 PM
I'm confoosed!?. :o
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
I'm confoosed!?. :o


Thom,

Don't be confoosed! It's what we refer to as an intercola relationship. :'( :'( :'(

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 06:12:23 PM
This morning I finished the area in the reverse loop. I previously referred to this area as the diamond even though it is more shaped like a triangle.

I mentioned it was too sterile looking. I added more ground material and smaller bushes. I'm pleased with the result and a good portion of this will be behind the smaller lubritorium building.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175433.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175433.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
I've been discussing palm trees with the Judge for about two years. About three years ago I purchased some of Hart of the South Models palm trees. They are beautiful but require many hours of assembly. Here are a few pictures of Hart's palm trees on a small diorama he built and had on display at the Happy Hobo Hobby Shop in Tampa, Fl.

Sadly, the Happy Hobo is now closed and has been for several years.

I have several of the trees but just don't have the time to make any at this time.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181824.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181836.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181836.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181849.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717181849.jpeg)

Beautiful palm trees but very time consuming to make.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 06:32:33 PM
I looked at the Woodland Scenics Palm trees. I decided with some paint and imagination, these trees could be made to look somewhat realistic.

I purchased a few and experimented in painting the palm fronds. Sadly I don't have any pictures of the process but I do have pictures of the finished palms on the layout.

We went to the LHS and found that Humbrol Enamel paint had the best green, frond color, of any paints. After testing a few trees with the frond green, actually a Humbrol Medium Green, we decided to bite the bullet and the Judge purchased a few dozen more of the Woodland Scenics Palms.

Bill, the Judge, did a wonderful job at painting the fronds and trunks. We now have about two dozen WS palms mixed in with the other trees.

Oh yea, I finished the area around the lagoon this afternoon. Here are a few photos of that area. See if you can spot the palms. It isn't hard! 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175447.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175447.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175501.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175501.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 06:33:21 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175516.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175534.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175548.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175548.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175616.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175616.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175601.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175601.jpeg)


I forgot to mention I planted an additional four cypress trees around the edge of the lagoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on July 30, 2017, 06:47:00 PM
Shaping up nicely Tom.  The palms are beautiful.  Ahhh, the Happy Hobo.  I used to go there back when I lived in Tampa.  I forgot the original owners name, but he had a beautiful home layout based on the B&M.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2017, 06:52:58 PM
Very nice Tom. Judge did a great job also.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on July 30, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
Hi Tom,

The visitors from the NMRA convention will be very impressed with your layout as I am.  With the more trees you have place, it is really looking great.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
ACL 1504,
           Great swamp pictures!  If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in!  Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom...  P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on July 30, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
ACL 1504,
           Great swamp pictures!  If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in!  Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom...  P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D


 :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on July 30, 2017, 09:49:37 PM
Beautiful looking Scenes.

I knew the Judge was talented, I had forgotten just HOW talented.  Can we give him an Award of some kind ????  Maybe a Tree Limb on a board.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jbvb on July 30, 2017, 10:11:40 PM
I like your palms; perhaps some of you remember an early-70s Model Railroader article by a man modeling Southern California who made realistic palms out of paper. He cut multiple copies of individual fronds with an XActo on a pad of paper and modeled both the dead fronds and the texture of the trunk.  One of those which inspired me to pursue a more photo-realistic kind of modeling.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PennsyJ1 on July 31, 2017, 07:07:30 AM
Hey Tom the lagoon area is fantastic!! The palms really add to the that area. Did you tell the Judge there are only 500 more for him to do, he did a nice job. I really like the extra cypress trees. Can't wait to get back down there to see it in person. I know the pressure is on this week, so get back at it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on July 31, 2017, 07:55:43 AM
Great work by the Judge. Those look pretty fake in the store. Very nice addition to a great scene.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on July 31, 2017, 09:43:56 AM
This is shaping up very nicely!   :D   The addition of the palm and cypress trees to the lagoon area makes a huge difference.  The MOW scene looks wonderful too!  Kudos!   ;D  ;D  ;D     
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on July 31, 2017, 12:06:43 PM
Tom,


Love the new trees, especially the palm trees. You have to be proud of what you have done in such a short time. Absolutely marvelous. Quick question, are you going to pour water in the basin before the convention? Its a lot of work, but would be over the top awesome. Keep up the marvelous work my friend.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on July 31, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
Tom


Great looking scene.  Sure looks like Florida to me!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on July 31, 2017, 09:11:00 PM
I'd like to have the nearest Motel 6 franchise to Casa Langford as there's gonna' be a lot of folks "stayin' over" to see this gem!  :) :)
I'd even leave the lights on for them.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Judge on August 01, 2017, 11:34:34 AM
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees.  I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp.  I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do."  Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed.  I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing  next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation.  I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern. 

I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on August 01, 2017, 11:40:08 AM
Atta boy Bill..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bparrish on August 01, 2017, 02:17:27 PM
Really cool scenes Tom.

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 05:56:35 PM
Shaping up nicely Tom.  The palms are beautiful.  Ahhh, the Happy Hobo.  I used to go there back when I lived in Tampa.  I forgot the original owners name, but he had a beautiful home layout based on the B&M.


Mark,

Thank you. I've spent many a day and $$ at the HH. The in store layout was pretty cool

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Very nice Tom. Judge did a great job also.


Curt,

Thank you. Yes, the Judge did do a great job on the trees.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Hi Tom,

The visitors from the NMRA convention will be very impressed with your layout as I am.  With the more trees you have place, it is really looking great.


Steve,

Thank you and I do hope the visitors like what I've done.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:00:53 PM
ACL 1504,
           Great swamp pictures!  If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in!  Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom...  P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D


Thom,

Thank you sir. By the way, I did get bit by one of the blood suckers this past week. Trump can come on down, I don't have anything in the swamp just yet to drain. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:01:34 PM
ACL 1504,
           Great swamp pictures!  If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in!  Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom...  P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D


 :) :) :)


Chip,

Thanks for stopping by and taking a look see.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:02:46 PM
Beautiful looking Scenes.

I knew the Judge was talented, I had forgotten just HOW talented.  Can we give him an Award of some kind ??? ?  Maybe a Tree Limb on a board.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you kind sir. Yes, the Judge still has it.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:05:01 PM
I like your palms; perhaps some of you remember an early-70s Model Railroader article by a man modeling Southern California who made realistic palms out of paper. He cut multiple copies of individual fronds with an XActo on a pad of paper and modeled both the dead fronds and the texture of the trunk.  One of those which inspired me to pursue a more photo-realistic kind of modeling.


James,

Thank you. The palms turn out better than we expected.

I vaguely remember the article. Back then they were pretty crude looking.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:12:10 PM
Hey Tom the lagoon area is fantastic!! The palms really add to the that area. Did you tell the Judge there are only 500 more for him to do, he did a nice job. I really like the extra cypress trees. Can't wait to get back down there to see it in person. I know the pressure is on this week, so get back at it.


Bill and Kris,

Thank you, much appreciated. I was very much surprised how the palms changed the overall look of the scenery. We have many more to add. The added cypress trees made a difference also.

Ya'll are welcome anytime.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Great work by the Judge. Those look pretty fake in the store. Very nice addition to a great scene.


John


John,

You are correct, in the store they look like plastic palm trees. Painting the fronds another shade of green, painting the trunks gray and then dry brushing on some light brown really changed the look.

Thanks for the compliment and stopping by.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
This is shaping up very nicely!   :D   The addition of the palm and cypress trees to the lagoon area makes a huge difference.  The MOW scene looks wonderful too!  Kudos!   ;D ;D ;D     


Bob,

Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout and scenery. The MOW scene fits much better than the other structure I had planned for that area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Tom,


Love the new trees, especially the palm trees. You have to be proud of what you have done in such a short time. Absolutely marvelous. Quick question, are you going to pour water in the basin before the convention? Its a lot of work, but would be over the top awesome. Keep up the marvelous work my friend.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thank you for the kind words on the layout.

I enjoyed our phone conversation this afternoon. Always a pleasure talking to a structure master. At this point in the game, I'm very pleased with what I've done and how it has turned out.

The water won't go in for the conference. I have many more things I want to add to the lagoon and with adding the water I won't be able to make any changes.

I do plan on adding the water in the next few months.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:20:31 PM
Tom


Great looking scene.  Sure looks like Florida to me!


John,

Thank you for the compliment. It is starting to get hot like Florida as well. Oh wait, I turned off the AC! ;D ;D

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:22:26 PM
I'd like to have the nearest Motel 6 franchise to Casa Langford as there's gonna' be a lot of folks "stayin' over" to see this gem!  :) :)
I'd even leave the lights on for them.


Chip,

What a great idea. And, thank you for the kind and generous compliment on the scenery. Remember, leave the lights on.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees.  I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp.  I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do."  Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed.  I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing  next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation.  I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern. 

I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention.


Bill,

I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.

When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.

Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.

The palm trees did make a difference.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:46:17 PM
Atta boy Bill..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you. Oh, oops, my bad, that was for the Judge.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
Really cool scenes Tom.

Thanx
Bob


Bob,

Thank you very much. They sure were fun putting together.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:57:06 PM
Here are three additional photos with palm trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185505.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185519.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185538.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PaulS on August 01, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees.  I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp.  I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do."  Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed.  I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing  next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation.  I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern. 

I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention.



Bill,

I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.

When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.

Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.

The palm trees did make a difference.

Tom ;D


Tom, I couldn't agree more.  The decision by you and Bill to add the palms adds another dimension to your already beautiful scenery.  They add a depth and richness to the "story" you are presenting.
Keep up the great work and enjoy your open house this weekend.
All the best,
--Paul (who has been following and enjoying your wonderful progress here in the shadows)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:27:34 PM
Today I finished the rural cracker house.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191632.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191632.jpeg)

I added the rolled roofing material to the main and porch roof. No photos of this as many threads have been done showing how to do this.

I also added the posts from scale 6x6s.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:31:18 PM




Bill,

I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.

When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.

Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.

The palm trees did make a difference.

Tom ;D


Tom, I couldn't agree more.  The decision by you and Bill to add the palms adds another dimension to your already beautiful scenery.  They add a depth and richness to the "story" you are presenting.
Keep up the great work and enjoy your open house this weekend.
All the best,
--Paul (who has been following and enjoying your wonderful progress here in the shadows)



Paul,

Thank you very much, we appreciate the compliment. I don't often listen to the Judge but he was correct on the trees adding more to the overall scene.

I guess you can't say you are still in the shadows. I do appreciate you following along either way.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:37:10 PM
I also decided to add an LED to the front and only porch on this little house.

I'm using the Miniatronics Surface Mount LED. It is the Yeloglo White, Part #12-625-04.

When lit, it is bright so I needed to tone it down.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191650.jpeg)

I dipped it, with the LED on, in the Tamiya Clear Yellow acrylic paint. I let the first dip dry and then made a second dip.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191703.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191703.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
Here is how the LED looked under the porch roof. Still to bright for me. NOTE: the LED is face down in this first photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817193731.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817193731.jpeg)

I turned the LED face up to the under side of the roof and now I have a much more subdued look. I like it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191717.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
For weathering the roof, I used Weber Costello Pastels. I got mine some 15+ years ago at a local art supply store.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191731.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191731.jpeg)


I used the gray fourth from the bottom. I used a soft brush and applied the pastel to the bottom ridge of each rolled roofing material.

NOTE:  I didn't attempt to remove any of the pastel chalk dust at this time.

I applied the pastel to the opposite side in the same manner.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191758.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191758.jpeg)


More in a few. I need a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:52:34 PM
I then used a 1" wide soft bristle brush and pulled the brush down, vertically, from the top. You can see the difference in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191812.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191812.jpeg)

The chimney was added next.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191826.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191826.jpeg)

More in a few.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 07:57:46 PM
The cracker house across from the A&S RR station is now in place. After the conference, I'll be adding yard junk weeds and other stuff. I need to adjust the ground scenery as the house floats as seen in the bottom photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192354.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192354.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192406.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192406.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192419.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192419.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 01, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
Tom,
        That last picture posted would make an awesome shot if you could add some early morning swamp fog.  Wouldn't it! 8)  KP-out
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: richbeau on August 01, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
What a wonderful picturesque cracker house scene .
--Rich
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 02, 2017, 05:15:58 AM
Tom,
        That last picture posted would make an awesome shot if you could add some early morning swamp fog.  Wouldn't it! 8)  KP-out


Thom,

Yes, it would. I'll have to give that some thought.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 02, 2017, 05:17:03 AM
What a wonderful picturesque cracker house scene .
--Rich


Rich,

Thanks very much. I think it will look more natural when I get more detail around and under the house.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bagman on August 02, 2017, 06:27:31 AM
Tom...

These latest scenery photos...out-bloody-standing, as we would say down-under.

You are building a fine looking layout. You must be very pleased with the progress.

David
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 02, 2017, 08:06:58 AM
Beautiful additions to the layout and scenery.  I know during the layout tours everyone will be as impressed with your skill as I am.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 02, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Tom, that is what happens when you use Cracker Jacks. LOL
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on August 03, 2017, 07:19:43 AM
Tom,


In just over 48 hours you can take a breather from this "Hell bent for Leather" schedule you have set for yourself. You have accomplished an enormous amount of real estate development in a minimum of time and I know it will be well received. If you hadn't had that setback you would probably be running trains on the upper level! I am sure that after the convention tour you will set another energetic schedule, but with it you can take a break at any time and relax.


The participants on the tour will be well impressed with your concept, your scenery, your attention to detail and your progress. I have mentioned your date and time to a couple of my friends from up north and hopefully they will have allotted time in their schedule to see the layout. I hope the day goes very well for everyone and there will be no planned or, inadvertent utilization of the pool by the masses.  Enjoy the accolades you will receive.

[/size]Bob
[/size]
[/size]By the way, did the LDSIG  contact you about the A&S?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 06:51:06 PM
Tom...

These latest scenery photos...out-bloody-standing, as we would say down-under.

You are building a fine looking layout. You must be very pleased with the progress.

David


David,

Why I-bloody-thank you! I very much appreciate the kind compliment. It has been fun. I think I've become a scenery junkie. 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
Beautiful additions to the layout and scenery.  I know during the layout tours everyone will be as impressed with your skill as I am.






Curt,

Thank you kind sir. I appreciate you always checking in on the progress.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 06:53:33 PM
Tom, that is what happens when you use Cracker Jacks. LOL


Marty,

Dang, that is a great comment. I wish I had thunk it up! Cracker Jacks, just wonderful.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:02:44 PM
Tom,


In just over 48 hours you can take a breather from this "Hell bent for Leather" schedule you have set for yourself. You have accomplished an enormous amount of real estate development in a minimum of time and I know it will be well received. If you hadn't had that setback you would probably be running trains on the upper level! I am sure that after the convention tour you will set another energetic schedule, but with it you can take a break at any time and relax.


The participants on the tour will be well impressed with your concept, your scenery, your attention to detail and your progress. I have mentioned your date and time to a couple of my friends from up north and hopefully they will have allotted time in their schedule to see the layout. I hope the day goes very well for everyone and there will be no planned or, inadvertent utilization of the pool by the masses.  Enjoy the accolades you will receive.




Bob,


Great to hear from you my friend. The set back cost me three months worth of work but I'm
 certainly not complaining. Three months off was better than having my heirs take it all apart.

I have been very busy as you can see but it has been well worth the effort. I find I'm more interested in scenery and structures than running trains.

I do have more self imposed work as I want to get a train running on the third level by January 2018.

I hope all that come visit leave being happy they stopped by. I also hope your friends make it by as well.

Thirty eight hours and counting.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:05:18 PM
Today I poured water in the cow pond. I used the WS Deep Pour Water Murky.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183505.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183505.jpeg)

The cows seemed happy as well to have some water.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183518.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183518.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:07:53 PM
I mixed some Deep Pour Water Clear and added water to the river under the roadway and railroad bridges.

Before -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183434.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183434.jpeg)

After the pour -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183450.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183450.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:28:07 PM
I then went back to check on the cow pond. The cows were gone and I said, "WHAT THE ----"!

Several different phrases came forth from my lips none of which can be expressed here. You don't need to be Hercule Poirot and use your little gray cells to know what I was saying.

Forty Eight hours until the open house and this Chit happens.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183554.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183554.jpeg)

The water started coming up in blobs and doing all kinds of weird movements. You've got to be kidding me, I don't have time for this Mr. Murphy crap!

I quickly removed what I could to save the pond and the scene. This is what I removed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183608.jpeg)

More in a few. Most definitely time for a tall cold Diet Pepsi, maybe two.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
And this is what I have left of the cow pond.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183642.jpeg)

This portion is still very much liquid but the stuff I removed was from the "X" Files or "The Outer Limits". I'll say I was at my limit about this time.

See, I report failures as well as good stuff on this layout thread. What I see, you see, what I get, I pass on to you. No need to thank me. I know you appreciate it! 8) 8) 8) 8)


When the pond water got tacky, I painted on some earth tone paint to hide the blue earth.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183655.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183655.jpeg)

It is now 41 hours to the open house.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
When the paint dried, I added another layer of dark brown paint to the pond water.

39.5 hours until the open house. No panic as yet. Just very disappointed I have to spend this extra time on the pond.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183739.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183739.jpeg)

You can see the uneven water in the above photo. It's the best I could do to repair the pond, at this point anyway.

You can see the paint and pond water drying and shrinking in the next photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg)

It is now 38 hours until the open house.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:50:04 PM
I told you the Deep Pour Water Murky was from the "X" Files or "Outer LImits". You probably said, "I think the guy is nuts or something.

Well, don't say I didn't warn you. Look at the picture again. Do you see the evil face in the water?

The head is turned at an angle. You can see the beady eyes, forehead, nose, mouth and chin. I gave Mr. Murphy credit for this but he won't come even take a look. I need to call Skully in on the case.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
I quickly mixed a fresh mix of murky water and poured it over the evil face and over the old water.

So far, so good. The face is gone and the water is level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183810.jpeg)

The cows came back and are now drinking the fresh water in the cow pond.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183822.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183822.jpeg)

37 hours until the open house and all is well once again. This is what I call one Heck of a save.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 07:59:38 PM
While all that water stuff was happening, I added some weeds to the Tahope River. The flow is from the West so the river junk accumulated around the dead tree and cypress trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183835.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183835.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183848.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183848.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 03, 2017, 08:01:41 PM
These folks should turn around now as they don't know the "Outer Limits" is just around the river bend.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183900.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183900.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on August 03, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
Do we hear banjo music?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 03, 2017, 08:33:43 PM
Great looking water and great water save.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on August 03, 2017, 10:53:59 PM
I am glad to see that the cows have clean water.

Great scene.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on August 04, 2017, 03:12:28 AM
Great save Tom , do you have any idea what caused the problem?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 10:06:40 AM
Sometime water/moisture will do crazy things to epoxy and/or resins. Was it tacky/sticky when you removed it?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on August 04, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
Maybe add a gator to the pond?    ;D


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on August 04, 2017, 04:45:18 PM
Hi Tom:

Beautiful water and great scenery as always.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on August 04, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
Beautiful as always. Love the water. How about a couple of paddle ripples? Just saying. Marvelous scenes. I am sure that you will get many accolades tomorrow from your NMRA visitors.  You have captured the true look of Florida. Looking forward to hearing all about your visitors and there impressions. Look out for possible leaners. there are always a few.


Have a great day my friend.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on August 04, 2017, 05:38:12 PM
When I first saw the tagline "cows are gone", I feared perhaps our late, lamented buddy 'Gnatshop and his merry band of brothers had come cow tipping. Happy and relieved to learn that was NOT the case.
Water on, Tom after you've finished your NMRA decompression.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
Do we hear banjo music?


Jim,

I certainly hope not. ;D ;D ;D

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:03:24 PM
Great looking water and great water save.


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
I am glad to see that the cows have clean water.

Great scene.

Jim


Jim,

Me too and thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:10:37 PM
Great save Tom , do you have any idea what caused the problem?


Jan,

Thank you and no. I do have a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) though.

I usually pour the water over painted plywood. I filled this pond with spackle and used WS earth tones to cover the spackle. My belief is that the resin softened the thin paint and exposed the spackle thus affecting the resin.

The rapid hardening of the water occurred directly over the spackle. When I removed the offending resin water, the remaining resin water settled and dried normally. When the first water pour was about six hours in, I poured the second one and all went as planned.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Was it tacky/sticky when you removed it?


Marty,

The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.

Tom ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Maybe add a gator to the pond?    ;D


dave


Dave,

I have HO scale gators and they will go in the Suwannee River Lagoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:29:01 PM
Hi Tom:

Beautiful water and great scenery as always.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you my friend, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
Beautiful as always. Love the water. How about a couple of paddle ripples? Just saying. Marvelous scenes. I am sure that you will get many accolades tomorrow from your NMRA visitors.  You have captured the true look of Florida. Looking forward to hearing all about your visitors and there impressions. Look out for possible leaners. there are always a few.


Have a great day my friend.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Afternoon my friend. I'm not sure the people in the canoes will be a permanent fixture. Ripples, it at all may come later but not before tomorrow. 8) 8)

I look forward to tomorrow just to see how many show up. Looking forward to meeting a couple of forum members whom plan on visiting.

I just got finished with two test visitors. My mother in law leaned on the layout twice. My Babe reached over the imaginary line several times. I'll be happy if only a few trees get broken.

I'll report tomorrow evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:51:30 PM
When I first saw the tagline "cows are gone", I feared perhaps our late, lamented buddy 'Gnatshop and his merry band of brothers had come cow tipping. Happy and relieved to learn that was NOT the case.
Water on, Tom after you've finished your NMRA decompression.


Chip,

Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.

Hope all is well with him.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 07:16:45 PM
I thought I'd show an over all view of both sides of the layout room. As I mentioned in the past the width is 11 ft. 4 inches and the length for the layout is 42+ feet.

Also, after tomorrow, this room won't be this clean for a very long time.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191041.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191041.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191056.jpeg)

This next picture will be picture number 3,600 from when I started this thread. I wonder how far along on the layout I'd be if I wasn't a member of the forum?

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191109.jpeg)

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on August 04, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
Great looking water and that sure is a clean and great looking layout room.  I hope your have a wonderful day.  I'm looking forward to your report.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 04, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Tom,
         Congrats on the 3600 strip tease shots of your AS.  Have fun tomorrow with all the lurkers and ferroequinologist gazers.  I wonder how many complain tomorrow....... about having lower back pains from bending over and studying all the wonderful details you've built in for their viewing pleasure.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
Was it tacky/sticky when you removed it?


Marty,

The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.

Tom ;D

Hmm, it sounds more like a mix issue than water issue, unless there was moisture around the pond.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on August 05, 2017, 12:45:10 AM
Tom,


I hope you have nothing but courteous and well mannered lookers with no leaners, or reachers as Frank describes them. The first picture you posted, a very neat and tidy view of the layout room is impressive, finished layouts don't look that good. My first impression was that you had a side business of forensic pathology, the center peninsula looks as if you are stacking the bodies under those blue cloths. Is this a subliminal warning, a sign for the leaners and reachers, because I think it is an effective visual deterrent, it will work? Have a great day, keep Bill busy on the throttle.


Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on August 05, 2017, 03:28:32 AM


Chip,

Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.

Hope all is well with him.

Tom ;D

If I can tell by the amount of Facebook posts he does every day and the humor of his FB posts I'd say David is doing fairly well, I just hope the Smokey Robinson song " Tears of a clown"  is not applicable.

Enjoy your day Tom , hope you have lots of appreciative visitors , your layout surely deserves it.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on August 05, 2017, 06:23:23 AM
Wow, those overall shots of the layout really hit home on how much work you've done.  Beautiful work Tom! 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:44:44 AM
Great looking water and that sure is a clean and great looking layout room.  I hope your have a wonderful day.  I'm looking forward to your report.


John,

Thank you, very much appreciated.

I'll report later this evening if not to tired. Otherwise, tomorrow.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:45:55 AM
Tom,
         Congrats on the 3600 strip tease shots of your AS.  Have fun tomorrow with all the lurkers and ferroequinologist gazers.  I wonder how many complain tomorrow....... about having lower back pains from bending over and studying all the wonderful details you've built in for their viewing pleasure.  KP-out...


Thom,

Thanks very much. I appreciate the well wishes.

I got your emails, keep me informed as to any new stuff.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:48:22 AM
Was it tacky/sticky when you removed it?


Marty,

The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.

Tom ;D

Hmm, it sounds more like a mix issue than water issue, unless there was moisture around the pond.


Marty,

Can't be a mix issue as all of it would have hardened like the center. It was all mixed in the same container for the required 15 minutes of fame.

No moisture at the time in the pond. Just unknown. 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:52:40 AM
Tom,


I hope you have nothing but courteous and well mannered lookers with no leaners, or reachers as Frank describes them. The first picture you posted, a very neat and tidy view of the layout room is impressive, finished layouts don't look that good. My first impression was that you had a side business of forensic pathology, the center peninsula looks as if you are stacking the bodies under those blue cloths. Is this a subliminal warning, a sign for the leaners and reachers, because I think it is an effective visual deterrent, it will work? Have a great day, keep Bill busy on the throttle.


Bob


Bob,

I think most visitors are on the whole courteous. If not, I have no problem asking anyone to leave.

I was a CSI for 9 years on the police department and spent my fair share photographing and video taping autopsies. I know how to cover up the dead and they will be if they get out of hand. ;D ;D ;D


Just kidding, well, no I'm not.

I'll make a full report on this adventure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:54:26 AM


Chip,

Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.

Hope all is well with him.

Tom ;D

If I can tell by the amount of Facebook posts he does every day and the humor of his FB posts I'd say David is doing fairly well, I just hope the Smokey Robinson song " Tears of a clown"  is not applicable.

Enjoy your day Tom , hope you have lots of appreciative visitors , your layout surely deserves it.


Jan,

Thanks very much for the update on Gman. I really miss his humor here but we do have Donato.

This should be a fun filled day, thank you.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 05, 2017, 07:55:41 AM
Wow, those overall shots of the layout really hit home on how much work you've done.  Beautiful work Tom!


Mark,

I appreciate your kind words on the layout work. It has been fun.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on August 05, 2017, 10:58:32 AM
Thanks for the photos showing the whole layout.  I'm sure you will have tons of positive comments from your guests.  Sit back and have a wonderful day.  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on August 05, 2017, 11:46:30 AM
Looks amazing Tom! Best wishes for the open house today. Sorry I haven't been around but I'm rooting for your great success.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 11:56:12 AM
Thanks for the photos showing the whole layout.  I'm sure you will have tons of positive comments from your guests.  Sit back and have a wonderful day.  Jim


Jim,

You are welcome sir. The open house went very well and the layout did receive great reviews.

Thanks for your support.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 11:57:21 AM
Looks amazing Tom! Best wishes for the open house today. Sorry I haven't been around but I'm rooting for your great success.


John


John,

Much appreciated, thank you. We had a great open house and you are welcome to come by anytime butty.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
As everyone knows I did have the NMRA open house yesterday. All went very well.

You can read my reflections of yesterday's main event here.

http://modelersforum.com/general-daily-discussion/reflections-of-my-nmra-open-house/msg77140/?topicseen#new (http://modelersforum.com/general-daily-discussion/reflections-of-my-nmra-open-house/msg77140/?topicseen#new)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on August 06, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
Tom,
Not wanting to hijack the Open House thread, I noticed what appears to be a staging yard 2' or 3'  above floor level.
Do trains come up to the level we've all seen so many times through the ovalix or is there a long ascent we've not seen somewhere else? I don't recall seeing the lower level covered previously.
Thanks an d please keep up the great work!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 12:45:23 PM
Tom,
Not wanting to hijack the Open House thread, I noticed what appears to be a staging yard 2' or 3'  above floor level.
Do trains come up to the level we've all seen so many times through the ovalix or is there a long ascent we've not seen somewhere else? I don't recall seeing the lower level covered previously.
Thanks an d please keep up the great work!


Chip,

My friend, you may hijack any of my threads you want.

All trains from the lower level staging area use the Ovalix to ascend to the second and third levels. They return using the same Ovalix single track from the third level to the second and staging level.

There is no one long ascent from level to level.

I think my Ovalix and staging tracks can be see on pages 12 and up on the first A&S RR thread. I've posted it here for your review and convenience.

http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/165/

I appreciate you following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:01:37 PM

Okay, back to work. The open house was a very nice break from the layout work but there is still work to be done.

First some old business to finish. The track leading to and including tracks at the small lubritorium need to be ballasted. The two lubritorium structures need to be finished with interior detail, lights(LEDs) and etc. Supporting details and scenery also need to be finished.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124604.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124604.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124617.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124617.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124631.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on August 06, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Glad to see you're not letting the grass grow under your tootsies.....got to meet that Jan. 2018 deadline..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
The North reverse loop on the second level needs trees in the center of the loop. Trees and bushes need to be added to the blue foam. The photo backdrop needs to go on the wall.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg)

Continued in a few. I'm getting a cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:06:54 PM
Glad to see you're not letting the grass grow under your tootsies.....got to meet that Jan. 2018 deadline..... ;)


Greg,

Thanks for stopping by. No, no time to lag or slack off. I can't seem to stop the ball from rolling even if it is uphill.

The deadline Greg is referring to is I want to have some track laid and a train on the third level by January 1, 2018!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:10:28 PM
The last of the old business is the area where the oil facility is located. An oil platform needs to be scratch built and supporting structures need to be added. Can't forget the supporting scenery details.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124658.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124658.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124716.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124716.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:26:43 PM
I'm getting excited about starting some new projects on the second level of the layout.

I'll be working on this section as I finish the other areas.

The road from the MOW will continue down a portion of the center section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124730.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124730.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124744.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124744.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:37:02 PM

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124829.jpeg)


The road will turn North and run parallel with the single track.

The road and single track will run parallel across the river. The river area will be approximately 3.5 feet across. However, the actually river width, waters edge to edge, will be determined as I build the bridge supports.

The town of Tahope will be located North of the St. Johns River.

I borrowed the roadway from Eaton's Curve area to show how the two will run across the river.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124843.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124843.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 01:38:41 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124856.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124856.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124909.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124909.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 06, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
I haven't decided which bridges I'll use for crossing the river.

The first bridge set is two Atlas Through Truss -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134713.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134713.jpeg)


The second set is two 40+ year old Campbell Truss Bridges -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134729.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134729.jpeg)

The last is an out of production Arched Pratt Bridge by Heljan. I only have one of these so I'd have to use Central Valley Plate Girder Bridges on each end.

Decisions, decisions.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134741.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134741.jpeg)

Done for the day posting. Back to the layout work.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 06, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
It all looks great. I like the first bridge you posted best. Have you decided to do the center pier before the 3rd level?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 07, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
It all looks great. I like the first bridge you posted best. Have you decided to do the center pier before the 3rd level?


Curt,

Thanks, I've decided I like the first two.  They look better and are much newer models.

I'm only doing the second level river area and then the third. I may do them both as I go, in 8 foot sections at a time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on August 07, 2017, 09:25:32 PM
Hi Tom,

I am glad your open house went well this past weekend.  I like the first two bridges better also.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 07, 2017, 09:49:57 PM
Tom,
        It struck me funny, watching you model bridges for a scene is like shopping for pickles in a grocery store... You have too many choices! ha.  I like the government approach to modeling.  Why have one, when you can have them all.  Leave no bridge unless it's over a river.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)     
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on August 12, 2017, 06:29:34 AM
Been a while since I stopped in.  Looking really great Tom.  First 2 bridges are my pick as well.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on August 12, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)   


Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on August 12, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)   


Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Shady Florida real estate?  I'm shocked!


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
Hi Tom,

I am glad your open house went well this past weekend.  I like the first two bridges better also.


Steve,

Thank you, we did have a great open house and much fun.  I'm going with the first two I showed.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 05:52:03 PM
Tom,
        It struck me funny, watching you model bridges for a scene is like shopping for pickles in a grocery store... You have too many choices! ha.  I like the government approach to modeling.  Why have one, when you can have them all.  Leave no bridge unless it's over a river.  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

You are a funny guy. When one has been hoarding RR stuff as long as I have the bridges seem to multiply. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)   


Bob,

I don't know but I'm sure there are many shady characters in Tahope. As of now, the Perkins Farm is not for sale.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
Been a while since I stopped in.  Looking really great Tom.  First 2 bridges are my pick as well.


Mark,

Happy you stopped by for a visit. I'm going with the first two and they seem to be the popular choice.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)   


Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D


Greg,

Yea, sure! You probably have them all on speed dial.....just like the throttle. ;D ;D ;D

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions.   ;)   


Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Shady Florida real estate?  I'm shocked!


dave


Dave,

I know your comment was tongue in cheek but here is a good one.

Trust me, it is all over the place down here.

Jimmy Hoffa even got in on one of the deals. He bought several hundred acres of swamp land near Cocoa Beach, Fl. He had white beach sand pumped in and then took aerial photos of the white sandy roads. Went north and sold the swamp lots with white beach sand roads to idiots in the north. The scam was referred to as Sun Valley Estates.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964 (http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:08:26 PM
I did some work on the small lubritorium and oil storage building.

I made the interior pad for the oil storage area with .030 sheet styrene.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171330.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171330.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171348.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171348.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:11:23 PM
I filled in all the between the track areas with the same .030 styrene.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171404.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171404.jpeg)

The interior slabs were painted with Floquil Concrete (not shown).

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171418.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:14:02 PM
As previously mentioned, I painted both structures with Floquil Zinc Chromate Primer. The windows were painted with Floquil dark Green.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171432.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171432.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171516.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171516.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:16:37 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171528.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171528.jpeg)


Roof exhaust vents were added.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125614.jpeg)

And, the ballast was added next.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125628.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125628.jpeg)

I'll have more to report tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 12, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Tom,
     Did you Iron those tracks?  I don't see a wrinkle or bend anywhere!  I thought you were a ACL modeler. Oh wait, you're an AS modeler, that's right! ;D  Gonna be a nice non-wrinkle scene when you're done bossman!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on August 12, 2017, 08:43:23 PM
Dave,

I know your comment was tongue in cheek but here is a good one.

Trust me, it is all over the place down here.

Jimmy Hoffa even got in on one of the deals. He bought several hundred acres of swamp land near Cocoa Beach, Fl. He had white beach sand pumped in and then took aerial photos of the white sandy roads. Went north and sold the swamp lots with white beach sand roads to idiots in the north. The scam was referred to as Sun Valley Estates.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964 (http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964)

Tom ;D
You need a scene on your model RR of the discovery of Jimmy Hoffa! 


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bparrish on August 13, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
But I thought he was planted in the end zone of the meadow lands ? ! ?

See ya
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on August 13, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
But I thought he was planted in the end zone of the meadow lands ? ! ?

See ya
Bob
Isn't that one of the places they actually dug up looking for him?


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 19, 2017, 05:39:57 PM
We had a little excitement this afternoon on the Perkins' farm.

Seems like Mama Perkins was yelling at Fatty Patty to get off her butt and do some work. Things got out of hand and the local Po Po got called.

This is a rural county farm so normally the Tahope County Sheriff would be called. All the county mounties were busy. A mutual aide agreement with the state and county allows the Highway Patrol to respond when the sherrif deputies aren't available.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172400.jpeg)

When the HP arrived the Signal 22 (civil dispute) was still in progress.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817173605.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817173605.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 19, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
We see Mama Perkins yelling at Fatty Patty. Farmer Perkins is staying out of the disunderstanding and misaspute (this is known as cracker speak) he is just watching from a short distance. He knows better than to get in the middle of this one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172318.jpeg)

We get a little closer so we can hear what is being said.

Ma Perkins:  I teld ya to git tha broom an sweep tha porch, not sitton tha porch.

Fatty Patty:  I doesn't wanna to sweep da porch, I'm tard.

Ma Perkins:  Dosn't cared how tard ya be, I teld ya to sweep tha porch.

Fatty Patty:  Cusin Sweaty Betty over at Eaton's curve ain't gotta sweep herin porch.

Ma Perkins:  Theys ain't got no broom to sweep with. Get yourn butt up and git sweeping.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172333.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172333.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 19, 2017, 05:59:52 PM
All this time Grandpa Perkins is sitting on the other side of the porch and he ain't saying nuttin either.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172347.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172347.jpeg)

The state trooper got back in the car an left. Seems like Ma Perkins is going to get the last word in on the porch sweeping.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 19, 2017, 06:19:37 PM
Nice story Tom. I hope your toe feels better.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 19, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
Oh, man!
          If them there fewdin' words got anymore uppity, that could have easily turned into a 5150 call pronto...  Wonderful modeling & back story! 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 19, 2017, 10:36:42 PM
It looks like Grandpa is wondering why the path is wider than the porch stairs.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on August 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Tom,


You can certainly spin a yarn and it goes so well with the LPs. It is as if you can see Ms. Perkins lips move. If you get tired of this modeling stuff I think you may have another vocation to fall back on if you get bored. Good story, an illustrative scene and great modeling.


Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on August 20, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
You sure that is Fatty Patty, not Fat Heidi?  :-\
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
Nice story Tom. I hope your toe feels better.


Curt,

Thanks, the toe is slowly, very slowly healing.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:46:20 PM
Oh, man!
          If them there fewdin' words got anymore uppity, that could have easily turned into a 5150 call pronto...  Wonderful modeling & back story! 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanx Thom...


Thom,

When Ma Perkins speaks, there ain't nobody else saying nuttin.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:47:33 PM
It looks like Grandpa is wondering why the path is wider than the porch stairs.


He knows the spot next to the steps is where he jumps down and the weeds are growing on the path on thuther side. 8)

Tom ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
Tom,


You can certainly spin a yarn and it goes so well with the LPs. It is as if you can see Ms. Perkins lips move. If you get tired of this modeling stuff I think you may have another vocation to fall back on if you get bored. Good story, an illustrative scene and great modeling.


Bob


Bob,

Hey, thanks for stopping by. Usin crackers can spin all kinda yarns. Appreciate the compliment on the scene and story. Hope you have time to stop by next time yourn in the area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:51:25 PM
You sure that is Fatty Patty, not Fat Heidi?  :-\


Greg,

Yep, FH (Fat Haydee) is in a class all her own.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:55:35 PM
I'm way behind on the updates for the thread. Sorry 'bout that.

I've been working on the area shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg)

I took the blue foam block and covered it with the WS Earth ground cover.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125550.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125550.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 02:57:42 PM
When the scenery material dried, I brushed it into a pile.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125645.jpeg)

I reclaimed it by scooping it into the WS jar.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125700.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 22, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Tom, it's good to see you posting progress photos again.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:01:46 PM
I was left with this.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125714.jpeg)

Fast forward and I added all my other layers. I didn't do a fine cover as it will be somewhat back in the corner and covered with trees and under brush.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125726.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125726.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125745.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:02:42 PM
Tom, it's good to see you posting progress photos again.


Curt,

Thanks very much my friend. I'm getting back into the saddle a little at a time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
I turned it on edge and added the ground cover to the edges.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125759.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125759.jpeg)

I had one more 4 foot section of Joey Ricard's fantastic photo back drop to add to the wall north of the Ovalix.

I used a very tacky 3M spray glue/adhesive so newspapers were a must. It sprays on the wall but the over spray is just as tacky and I didn't want any on the track.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143621.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143634.jpeg)

I only went down the wall four feet. When the third level is in place, you'll have to get down low to see it doesn't extend the length of the wall.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143648.jpeg)

More in a few.



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:11:38 PM
I used some spackle to fill in a few bumps.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143701.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143701.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 22, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
I had one more 4 foot section of Joey Ricard's fantastic photo back drop to add to the wall north of the Ovalix.

I used a very tacky 3M spray glue/adhesive so newspapers were a must. It sprays on the wall but the over spray is just as tacky and I didn't want any on the track.







Tom,
      I agree Joey R. has awesome looking backdrops that's for dang sure!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 03:43:09 PM








Tom,
      I agree Joey R. has awesome looking backdrops that's for dang sure!  Thanx Thom...


The best on the market!

http://www.tracksidescenery.com/index.php?

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on August 22, 2017, 09:37:03 PM
Is old Asian proverb: Locos no like tacky tracky!
And I'll take 2 from Column B.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 22, 2017, 10:00:42 PM
Virtually all printed photographs, whether it is inkjet, pigment, laser, or heat transfer are affected by UV, heat and moisture. It (water) will destroy prints the fastest, especially if you try to wipe it off. It is equally damaging to negatives as I once found out with a large negative of a picture of the surface of Mars.

Most framed photos are not affected by splashed on water as there us glass or plastic protecting them. However, midel train backgrounds live in a moist environment during construction. These backgrounds need protection that is transparent and matte in nature. The glossy photo papers are too shiny and could do with a bit of a dulling.

There is a solution that I use for my "art" photography called "Preserve-It". A light dusting or two of this spray provides UV and surface moisture protection. This is more of a fine art solution, but normal clear matte art spray will work in a pinch.

I would suggest you take a scrap photo or background and apply some Preserve-It to see if it is suitable for your sitituation. Never experiment on the "real" to see if it will work fir you. Spray it on a horizontal surface to minimize drips, spray VERY lightly on vertical surfaces.

Note: this does not protect for excess humidity or wet walls were water can get into the edges or backing of the bacground.

Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 23, 2017, 07:38:30 AM
Is old Asian proverb: Locos no like tacky tracky!
And I'll take 2 from Column B.


Chip,

Wouldn't that be, "likey tacky tracky"?  8) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 23, 2017, 07:39:30 AM
Virtually all printed photographs, whether it is inkjet, pigment, laser, or heat transfer are affected by UV, heat and moisture. It (water) will destroy prints the fastest, especially if you try to wipe it off. It is equally damaging to negatives as I once found out with a large negative of a picture of the surface of Mars.

Most framed photos are not affected by splashed on water as there us glass or plastic protecting them. However, midel train backgrounds live in a moist environment during construction. These backgrounds need protection that is transparent and matte in nature. The glossy photo papers are too shiny and could do with a bit of a dulling.

There is a solution that I use for my "art" photography called "Preserve-It". A light dusting or two of this spray provides UV and surface moisture protection. This is more of a fine art solution, but normal clear matte art spray will work in a pinch.

I would suggest you take a scrap photo or background and apply some Preserve-It to see if it is suitable for your sitituation. Never experiment on the "real" to see if it will work fir you. Spray it on a horizontal surface to minimize drips, spray VERY lightly on vertical surfaces.

Note: this does not protect for excess humidity or wet walls were water can get into the edges or backing of the bacground.

Just some thoughts.


Marty,

Great idea but too late for this railroad.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bparrish on August 23, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
I dunno Tom.......

This is getting cool...... 

If you are not careful you are going to have a real railroad on your hands here..

see ya
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on August 23, 2017, 07:34:58 PM
Tom,
Your scenery continues  to amaze me.  Keep it coming.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: LongHornCaddy on August 25, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
Wow, what a thread!   I'm going to give this a good looking over.  Nice job Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:08:47 PM
I dunno Tom.......

This is getting cool...... 

If you are not careful you are going to have a real railroad on your hands here..

see ya
Bob


Bob,

Thanks, much apprecitate you stopping by the thread. I told the Judge we need to apply for a Federal Grant and use the money on the railroad. The Dodo birds in DC would probably give it to us. But then one day they come knocking on the door and want all the money back with interest.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:10:52 PM
Tom,
Your scenery continues  to amaze me.  Keep it coming.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Thank you for the kind words on the scenery. Stay tuned as I'll be posting more scenery pictures in next few days.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:12:26 PM
Wow, what a thread!   I'm going to give this a good looking over.  Nice job Tom!


Leo,

Thank you kind sir for the compliment on the layout work. Check it out and let me know how it looks from Texas. ;D ;D


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:16:27 PM
I have a little update for today but I'm still behind on the thread.

I filled in the north reverse loop area with the basic scenery. I let the grass encroach on the reverse tracks as the A&S doesn't spray for weeds in the back woods.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180445.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180458.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180458.jpeg)

I have about 75+ trees to add to this area.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:22:52 PM
Today I finished the trees for the reverse loop area.

It doesn't look like it but in this container I have 39 trees ready to be planted. I have another 35 in a box under the layout.

I also have some of Kris Cutler's fantastic trees to use as fore ground trees.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180512.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180512.jpeg)

The area should look similar to the area behind the lubritorium as shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on August 25, 2017, 06:30:03 PM
Scenery is coming along very nicely Tom.  What is your plan to hide the Helix?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 25, 2017, 06:59:45 PM
Steve,

Thank you for the compliment.

Hiding the Ovalix is a long sad story. But, here it is in a few words. The Ovalix will stay in view. I was going to put the Helix in the opposite corner of the room and close it in. However, the Judge wants to sit at the lubritorium and watch the trains go around, around and around again, up and down and down and up.

There you have it. 8)

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on August 25, 2017, 08:40:29 PM
Looking good Tom.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 25, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Looking really good Tom. I look forward to seeing your progress.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on August 25, 2017, 11:11:22 PM
Can't wait Tom ... here is an idea... Make the ovalix look like a parking garage with those circular exit ramps. Or how about turn it into an office building with large glass windows ;D ;D ;D
 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on August 26, 2017, 08:54:26 AM
Once the Judge issues a ruling, the matter is closed (until further appeal)...only the Babe is a higher court and I imagine she will declare this matter to be frivolous and unworthy of her attention.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: engine909 on August 26, 2017, 11:02:52 AM
Hello Tom, More outstanding work.
ed keen-Lithia
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on August 26, 2017, 01:00:55 PM
Tom,

Are you telling me that the judge is a little dizzy?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on August 26, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
ACL 1504,
     Hey, I was just perusing your great pictorial here and I'm not sure if you mentioned this before or not.  On your helix, was curious, what technique are you going to use to hide it or are you, when you get to that point? Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:30:22 AM
Looking good Tom.  8)


Greg,

Thank you and thanks for the SB coupons.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
Looking really good Tom. I look forward to seeing your progress.


Curt,

Thank you, come by anytime you are in the neighborhood.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:34:12 AM
Can't wait Tom ... here is an idea... Make the ovalix look like a parking garage with those circular exit ramps. Or how about turn it into an office building with large glass windows ;D ;D ;D
 


Marty,

Yes, your September 7 visit is just around the corner. Looking forward to meeting you and Kelsey.

Actually when the third level is added you won't see as much of the Ovalix as you do now. 8) 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:44:17 AM
Once the Judge issues a ruling, the matter is closed (until further appeal)...only the Babe is a higher court and I imagine she will declare this matter to be frivolous and unworthy of her attention.


John


John,



So true sir, you just don't know how much influence my Babe has over any court ruling. However, when asked what she thought she said, "Why ask me, you'll do what you want on the railroad anyway." that is also so true. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:45:24 AM
Hello Tom, More outstanding work.
ed keen-Lithia


Hey Ed,

Thanks for stopping by and for the nice compliment on the layout, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:46:39 AM
Tom,

Are you telling me that the judge is a little dizzy?


Steve,

Certainly not, but when we both watch the trains from the staging level to the third level, all bets are off. ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:48:30 AM
ACL 1504,
     Hey, I was just perusing your great pictorial here and I'm not sure if you mentioned this before or not.  On your helix, was curious, what technique are you going to use to hide it or are you, when you get to that point? Thanx Thom...


Thommy,

Wake up my friend. I'm not going to hide it at all. I want to see all my brass pulling freight and passenger equipment up the Ovalix. I even have plans for helpers.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
This afternoon I have plans on planting 100 trees in the north reverse loop area.



Here is my ready made forest.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817103924.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817103924.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817103942.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817103942.jpeg)

More late this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:36:08 PM
I finished adding trees to the reverse loop area on the north end of the Ovalix.

I'm not going to feed ya'll a lot of narrative but let the photos show the work in progress and finish.

I have approximately 26 of Kris Cutler's trees in the foreground. Enjoy.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153040.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153040.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153054.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153054.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:36:41 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153107.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153121.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153138.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153151.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153206.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153220.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153238.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153251.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on August 27, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153306.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153320.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on August 27, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Very nice. Blends perfectly with the background.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: LongHornCaddy on August 27, 2017, 07:05:49 PM
I thought your first layout was great, this one is going to be/is even better!  I've gone backwards about 29 pages and love what I have seen so far.  That river scene is very very well done.  Bill's palm trees look terrific and are a prefect fit!   I'll be picking it back up on page 30 tomorrow.

Nice job!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on August 28, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Excellent job on the reverse loop. The trees really do blend into the backdrop. A nice thing you can do with your bulletproof track is move scenery close to the track without damaging it messing with derailed cars.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on August 28, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Hi Tom:

Everything looks great as usual. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on August 29, 2017, 06:36:35 PM
The reverse loop is looking sweet Tom!  Love those trees and how they blend nicely with the backdrop.  Will have to start calling you Tommy Appleseed!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on August 29, 2017, 10:36:50 PM
Good Morning Tom,


Been off the thread a few days. Been driving up to the 37th Narrow Gauge Convention and too tired to look at the forum and catch up on your progress. Whoa, my friend, you are going like crazy. Everything is looking marvelous. Really nice progress on the scenery around the ovalex. Love the trees. I will be posting some pics of the convention. Should be fun. Our first time. Yakima Apples will be in the contest room tomorrow. Talk to you soon. Keep up the beautiful work.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 01, 2017, 02:29:59 PM
Where O where has our friend Tom gone with his layout photos? :'(
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
Very nice. Blends perfectly with the background.


John


John,

Thank you Butty, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
I thought your first layout was great, this one is going to be/is even better!  I've gone backwards about 29 pages and love what I have seen so far.  That river scene is very very well done.  Bill's palm trees look terrific and are a prefect fit!   I'll be picking it back up on page 30 tomorrow.

Nice job!


Leo and Lorrie,

Thank you for the very generous and kind compliment. I've really enjoyed this layout better than any previous ones. Also, I've become much better at scenery than the last one as well.

I'll be doing a post on how we did the palm trees later this month. It will be on this thread.

Thank you again. Hope you like the other pages.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:07:10 PM
Excellent job on the reverse loop. The trees really do blend into the backdrop. A nice thing you can do with your bulletproof track is move scenery close to the track without damaging it messing with derailed cars.


Curt,

Thank you. I'm very pleased how this one turned out. Time to build the oil facility.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:08:19 PM
Hi Tom:

Everything looks great as usual. Keep up the good work.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks very much. If I can get my layout to look as great as your structures I'd be one happy camper. 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:10:21 PM
The reverse loop is looking sweet Tom!  Love those trees and how they blend nicely with the backdrop.  Will have to start calling you Tommy Appleseed!


Mark,

Very much appreciate your support and checking in. The trees do blend very well with Joey's backdrop.

I've been called many names so T A won't hurt one bit.  ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:12:39 PM
Good Morning Tom,


Been off the thread a few days. Been driving up to the 37th Narrow Gauge Convention and too tired to look at the forum and catch up on your progress. Whoa, my friend, you are going like crazy. Everything is looking marvelous. Really nice progress on the scenery around the ovalex. Love the trees. I will be posting some pics of the convention. Should be fun. Our first time. Yakima Apples will be in the contest room tomorrow. Talk to you soon. Keep up the beautiful work.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

I've been off the grid a few days myself.

I haven't heard how you or Steve did in the contest room. What's the news?

I've done some work this afternoon and will be back on the layout full time Monday afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:13:58 PM
Where O where has our friend Tom gone with his layout photos? :'(


Curt,

I'm here, just took a few days off for life and other things.

I have some photos to post later this afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
Welcome back Aloysius.  KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:23:01 PM
Hey all,

I appreciate all the PMs and emails asking if all is well with me. IT IS and thanks for your concerns. I didn't realize the number of folks who want their daily dose of the layout progress. Not to worry, I'm still at it.

The past two weeks have been full of several Doctor appointments both for my Babe and myself. Pam has had many visits and re-visits to the doctor in relation to her cataract surgery. She had the ocular implants in both eyes and sees 20/20 now.

I've had my follow up appointments for all my doctors as well. All is well but certainly an inconvenience to make all the appointments in the middle of the day.

Also, Pam's very good friend passed away this past week after a long illness. :'(  She was only 62. I've been helping Pam with that issue as well.

I'll be back to full duty this up coming week.

Again, thanks for all those who checked in.

Tom and Pam ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
Welcome back Aloysius.  KP-out...


KPI,

Thank you kind sir. It's good to be back in the layout saddle.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 04:35:48 PM
Blazing Saddles that is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cDfnQD0ws 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 04:55:57 PM
I did manage to get some time in on the layout this afternoon.

I'm working on building an oil facility for the tank cars. I've had the Magnuson Oil Tank kit for the past 20+ years and finally put it together this afternoon.

The tank is 43 HO scale feet across and 46 HO scale feet high.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160321.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160321.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160334.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
I used the paper template to determine where to drill the holes for the curved ladder.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160347.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160347.jpeg)

Of course as my luck would have it, the little tabs on the ladder stairs were broken off. This made gluing the curved stairs a little tricksie to the tank side. But it did get done.

Fast forward and the tank is now complete.

I had the one piece of sprue left and I cut the two ends off and made them into pipes at the bottom of the tank.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160400.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 03, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160429.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160429.jpeg)


This is where the tank will be located. Ya'll have seen it here in numerous previous pictures.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160416.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160416.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160443.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160443.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
T.  could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 03, 2017, 07:32:48 PM
Nice job Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on September 03, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bparrish on September 04, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Tom...

What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???

Scenery is great

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:25:53 PM
T.  could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...


KPI,

Let me put it this way, "NOT IN THIS LIFETIME"!

KPII

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
Nice job Tom.


Thank you Curt.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.

Jim


Jim,

Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 03:30:10 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.

Jim


Jim,

Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.

Tom ;D





I hear my mom callin me.  I think I'll take my throttle and go home... :P
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:39:42 PM
Tom...

What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???

Scenery is great

Thanx
Bob


Bob,

Thank you for the compliment on the scenery, much appreciated.

At the start of this layout, the Judge and I discussed how I wanted to build the Helix. Since a 36" radius Helix would take a minimum 6 foot diameter area,  I made the decision to put it in the little alcove of the layout room.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg)

Once I looked at the area, I decided to expand the Helix and make it an Ovailx, my word for the new Helix.

I stretched the Helix to include a section of 3 feet of straight track on two sides and 8 inches of straight track on the other two sides. This lessened the drag of the trains going up the Ovalix.

This Ovalix is really cool and I enjoy seeing the trains going up and down.

So, no plans are in the near future or future to enclose the Ovalix. One revolution is 26 feet giving me about a 1% incline. Not to bad for a railroad model.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:42:16 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.

Jim


Jim,

Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.

Tom ;D





I hear my mom callin me.  I think I'll take my throttle and go home... :P


KPI,

I thought I heard Joe calling you.  Joe Momma that is. ;D ;D ;D


KPII
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
shut up!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! air intake
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and scene.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
Tom...

What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???

Scenery is great

Thanx
Bob


Bob,

At the start of this layout, the Judge and I discussed how I wanted to build the Helix. Since a 36" radius Helix would take a minimum 6 foot diameter area,  I made the decision to put it in the little alcove of the layout room.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg)

Once I looked at the area, I decided to expand the Helix and make it an Ovailx, my word for the new Helix.

I stretched the Helix to include a section of 3 feet of straight track on two sides and 8 inches of straight track on the other two sides. This lessened the drag of the trains going up the Ovalix.

This Ovalix is really cool and I enjoy seeing the trains going up and down.

So, no plans are in the near future or future to enclose the Ovalix. One revolution is 26 feet giving me about a 1% incline. Not to bad for a railroad model.

Tom ;D







Looks like when the Gorre & Daphetid was started.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
shut up!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! air intake
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and scene.


Alrighty then!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on September 04, 2017, 08:25:11 PM
T.  could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...


Thanks Tom for your response to this suggestion.
There are probably a few of the posters here old enough to recognize the blue figure painted on the tank by a peace loving artist in the late 1960's. I used to drive by this disgusting display on my way to work in Boston daily. And despite the artists protestations, you'll never convince the veterans of Viet Nam that that figure is accidental.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 08:38:55 PM
T.  could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...


Thanks Tom for your response to this suggestion.
There are probably a few of the posters here old enough to recognize the blue figure painted on the tank by a peace loving artist in the late 1960's. I used to drive by this disgusting display on my way to work in Boston daily. And despite the artists protestations, you'll never convince the veterans of Viet Nam that that figure is accidental.


You get it! :)  and so does ACL 1504...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 06, 2017, 02:00:39 PM
Thom,

To much Rainbow Coalition for me.

Tom
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
The MOW crew is getting things ready in case track repairs are necessary after Hurricane Irma passes through.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174608.jpeg)


An ACL Geep is on the way to pull the MOW cars.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174626.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174626.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2017, 05:57:12 PM
We see a ACL freight coming by the MOW area. It appears a second section of this train is soon to follow as indicated by the green marker lights.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174928.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174928.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174948.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917174948.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2017, 05:59:16 PM
After the long freight passes the ACL Geep is given time to back to the MOW cars.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175004.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175004.jpeg)

Now the crew is hunkered down and waiting on Irma.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175020.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 08, 2017, 06:03:29 PM
I spent a few hours cleaning the Ovalix and vacuuming the scenery material off the tracks. It appears I got quite a bit of stuff on the tracks from my last work session.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175037.jpeg)

This is what I see when sitting inside the Ovalix.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080917175052.jpeg)

It won't be long and I'll be working on finishing the Ovalix to include the upper level track.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 08, 2017, 07:03:06 PM
Nice pictures Tom. Be safe with your ACL crew.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on September 09, 2017, 03:22:46 AM
Thanks for the pics Tom , always good to see more pics of your railroad. Be safe.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on September 09, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 10, 2017, 06:36:45 AM
Interesting view from inside the Ovalix.  Good to see that your MOW crew are on top of the Irma mess and ready to go!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on September 14, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.

Jim

I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out.  You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on September 15, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Tom,
 Hope you paid the MOW crew OT to clear up the tracks from the storm...Glad that the ACL had no major damage...Happy RRing !!!  ;)
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: LongHornCaddy on September 16, 2017, 12:14:30 AM
Glad you're ok Tom. 

Sorry for the loss of your friend
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
Nice pictures Tom. Be safe with your ACL crew.


Curt,

Thanks, the ACL Crew came through fine.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:00:18 PM
Thanks for the pics Tom , always good to see more pics of your railroad. Be safe.


Jan,

Thanks for stopping by and checking. I'll start back on the layout full time tomorrow, Monday morning.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:04:39 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.

Jim


Jim,

Here are some early under construction inside views.

Tom ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143301.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143301.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200714143109.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Interesting view from inside the Ovalix.  Good to see that your MOW crew are on top of the Irma mess and ready to go!


Mark,

Thanks for stopping by. The MOW crew tied everything down for Irma and we all survived.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.

Jim

I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out.  You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there.   ;D ;D ;D ;)




I'm glad Bob said it! Not that I wouldn't have. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:07:51 PM
Tom,
 Hope you paid the MOW crew OT to clear up the tracks from the storm...Glad that the ACL had no major damage...Happy RRing !!!  ;)
Tommy


Tommy,

We all survived Irma and trains are still running on schedule.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:11:10 PM
Glad you're ok Tom. 

Sorry for the loss of your friend


Leo and Lorrie,

Thank you. Haydee was one of Pam's best friends. She had some dental work done, got an infection from the work and developed a staph infection. The infection got into her heart and then brain. She literally lingered for almost 8 months.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
I mentioned earlier in the thread I'll be back on the layout work full time starting tomorrow, Monday, Sept. 18.

I'd also missed a golden opportunity to add a little real life to the layout thread.

Yesterday, the Judge came over and mentioned we should have built a small area where the trees were all down and junk all over the place. That would have really been neat after the Irma storm.

However, I mentioned to the Judge one important thought.

Who was going to clean it all up? 8) 8)


I'll have an update on my latest project tomorrow evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on September 17, 2017, 03:06:03 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.

Jim

I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out.  You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there.   ;D ;D ;D ;)




I'm glad Bob said it! Not that I wouldn't have. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

HA, I wouldn't bet any money on that  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
I have a confession of sorts to make.

I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what.  No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.

I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.

Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water.  ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.

However, I do have a little update.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 06:02:50 PM
For a few weeks now I've been trying to get to work on the oil structure and tank car loading platform.

I was going to scratch build the tank car platform but decided it would make more sense to use the Walters kits as they have all the goodies like pipes, racks, platform hoses, etc.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173816.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173816.jpeg)

I plan on kit bashing the four kits shown above into one long platform to service the tank cars. One platform will service four tankers and I have room to service 10. So, three boxes would fit the bill but I'll have an extra in case I need a smaller one on the third level.


Back in a few, I'm going to chug-a-lug a nice cold Diet Pepsi.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
In this same area, I'll use the Walthers Interstate Fuel & Oil facitity. This kit has four tanks and an area where I can have fuel oil service to fuel trucks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173829.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173844.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917173844.jpeg)

I'm not sure I'll use the quonset hut building but it is period appropriate for the A&S RR.

We used to have a large gas plant here in Orlando. The tanks were black and nasty not to mention it smelled really bad, but I love going by it as a kid.

Smoke was coming out of the stacks and steam from many of the pipe fittings. It was wonderful and I loved it.

George Sellios painted his fuel tanks a Grimy Black. I'm thinking about silver tanks and Grimy black pipes and platforms. Any thoughts ya'll have on this. I put this at the bottom to see who is actually reading vs. just picture surfing. 8) 8)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917181323.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180917181323.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 18, 2017, 06:42:02 PM
Hey Tom,
First off, I'm sure it's natural to get a little burned out at the pace you were going to get ready for the open house.  Sit back, crack open a DP and enjoy.  The use of both of those kits will make for a very active, and great looking scene.  Looking forward to seeing it built and up and running!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on September 18, 2017, 09:17:40 PM
Tom, go to the wild-side and with a color, like blue, yellow and brown
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jonnyci on September 18, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Maybe take a look at how Cliff Powers used the kit

http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on September 18, 2017, 11:24:56 PM
The Tanks that I remember from years ago were Silver, although they were faded to a very light Grey.  I can't recall what the pipes looked like.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on September 19, 2017, 03:33:31 AM
Tom , I had that same feeling for most part of the year , up and till a week or 2 ago, now I'm in the train room again. You'll be your usual self soon enough , until then take it easy , it's just a hobby.

The tanks look good in both colors , I think weathering them appropriately is more important then silver or grimy black.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on September 19, 2017, 07:23:45 AM
I have a confession of sorts to make.

I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what.  No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.

I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.

Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water.  ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.

However, I do have a little update.

Tom ;D

That happens from time to time.  I've been in a bit of a funk myself lately and passing up opportunities to spend time at the work bench.  I know I'll get over it.  It seems to happen to me when I have too many things on my plate, other than model building, that I should be working on.  Either at work and/or around the house. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on September 19, 2017, 08:13:55 AM
I think it's kind of natural after having met a deadline to feel a bit down afterward.  I've felt the same way about building stuff since I started the new job.  Part of my issue is fatigue, but I'd also finished my first real portion of scenery on the layout.  Last week I started a small kit and a couple of boxcars to see if I can get back at it.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on September 19, 2017, 08:19:36 AM
I'll defer to the wisdom of others regarding the lack of interest in the layout. Without trying to sound melodramatic, be encouraged it hasn't spread to other parts of your life. That's when the real problems occur. And I'm not convinced that the "fatigue" you're experiencing is not a part of the process of "getting older".  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on September 19, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
One thing that has worked for me is to build a kit/structure in another scale.  Maybe you can grab a good O Scale kit and work on that.


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: LongHornCaddy on September 19, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Once you get started with your oil facility the inspiration will come back! 

I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
I like the grimy look on the tanks. They definitely look like they have been sitting there awhile. I have run into modelers block before and what I did was do little projects for several weeks and by then I was ready to do something larger.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Hey Tom,
First off, I'm sure it's natural to get a little burned out at the pace you were going to get ready for the open house.  Sit back, crack open a DP and enjoy.  The use of both of those kits will make for a very active, and great looking scene.  Looking forward to seeing it built and up and running!


Mark,

I appreciate the comment. I didn't think I'd get burned out but apparently I did just that. I'm also back on the Diet Pepsi. I'm working slowly on the two kits and will have a short update later this evening.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
Tom, go to the wild-side and with a color, like blue, yellow and brown


Marty,

I'm not that brave! 8)   I don't mind getting on the wild side but not when it comes to colors on the layout. Picture a chicken here.  ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
Maybe take a look at how Cliff Powers used the kit

http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html (http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html)


jonnici,

Thanks for stopping by. My Babe and I visited Cliff's Magnolia Route in early June of 2014. Hard to believe it's been three years already.

I went back and looked at my pictures of his layout and the fuel tanks. He had some a dark color, some were silver and it looks like some were either off white or gray.

http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/cliff-powers'-mississippi-alabama-gulf-the-magnolia-route/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/cliff-powers'-mississippi-alabama-gulf-the-magnolia-route/)

Here are a couple of pictures from my visit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030614192301.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030614192301.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100814152109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100814152109.jpeg)

I really like the color variation in this next photo.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240814155510.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240814155510.jpeg)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:36:48 PM
The Tanks that I remember from years ago were Silver, although they were faded to a very light Grey.  I can't recall what the pipes looked like.

Jim


Jim,

The gas plant was on West Robinson Street and all I remember is that the entire area was black, very nasty black. But then I was only 12, 58 years ago so my memory isn't that sharp. :'(


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:39:59 PM
Tom , I had that same feeling for most part of the year , up and till a week or 2 ago, now I'm in the train room again. You'll be your usual self soon enough , until then take it easy , it's just a hobby.

The tanks look good in both colors , I think weathering them appropriately is more important then silver or grimy black.


Jan,

Thanks for the support. My wife said, "By me something and you'll find you need to get back to the empire." She was correct, I came right back out. ;D ;D ;D ;D


I'm going with a combination of the two. See photos above. Yes, weathering is the most important aspect of this kit build.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:42:35 PM



That happens from time to time.  I've been in a bit of a funk myself lately and passing up opportunities to spend time at the work bench.  I know I'll get over it.  It seems to happen to me when I have too many things on my plate, other than model building, that I should be working on.  Either at work and/or around the house.


Bob,

I've been in a funk in the past but never for this long of time. I know once I get started on it I'll be back to normal, what ever that is for me. It is just a matter of time for sure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
I think it's kind of natural after having met a deadline to feel a bit down afterward.  I've felt the same way about building stuff since I started the new job.  Part of my issue is fatigue, but I'd also finished my first real portion of scenery on the layout.  Last week I started a small kit and a couple of boxcars to see if I can get back at it.

Jeff


Dr.Jones,

I believe you are also correct. I did feel a little of a let down after the open house but I attributed it to just being tired. I'll take my time and get back to it slowly.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:48:20 PM
I'll defer to the wisdom of others regarding the lack of interest in the layout. Without trying to sound melodramatic, be encouraged it hasn't spread to other parts of your life. That's when the real problems occur. And I'm not convinced that the "fatigue" you're experiencing is not a part of the process of "getting older".  8)


Chip,

Thanks for the support. I think some of it is my age and thankfully it hasn't spread to the rest of my life or family. I have a great support staff here at home. As my wife said, "Buy me something and you'll feel better." ;D ;D  That will certainly make her feel better.

Tom ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:50:30 PM
One thing that has worked for me is to build a kit/structure in another scale.  Maybe you can grab a good O Scale kit and work on that.


dave


Dave,

Great idea. I've though of that but decided I didn't want to build something I wasn't going to use or need on the layout. However, the idea is still in my pea brain.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Once you get started with your oil facility the inspiration will come back! 

I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out


Leo,

You may have a point there/here. I was working on it this afternoon and got a little of the fire back.

Update later this afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
I like the grimy look on the tanks. They definitely look like they have been sitting there awhile. I have run into modelers block before and what I did was do little projects for several weeks and by then I was ready to do something larger.


Curt,

Thanks for the input. I like both colors for tanks and will try to use them both for a contrasting look. I've had writers block in my college creative writing class but this has me stumped. I've never gone this long without something to show for the time.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 19, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
ACL 1504,
               T, nice pics my brother from another brother.  Too bad for the rest of us you don't work for a magazine taking pictures of layouts.  KP-out!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 05:24:47 PM
Thank ya'll for responding concerning my post. This is one great forum.

This afternoon I spilled the contents of three boxes on my work bench.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161733.jpeg)

I washed the parts in warm soapy water to remove any mold release agents on still on the plastic.

When dry I removed the pipe supports and bases. I used a #11 Xacto blade to remove some extra flash. I then glued the supports to the base pieces.

I then randomly placed them between the tracks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161746.jpeg)

I should have more to show tomorrow afternoon.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 19, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
ACL 1504,
               T, nice pics my brother from another brother.  Too bad for the rest of us you don't work for a magazine taking pictures of layouts.  KP-out!


Brother Thom,

Thanks for the nice compliment on the pics of Cliff Powers' fantastic layout.

If I did take the pictures for the mags as you suggested, I wouldn't have time for my own empire building.

Just saying.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on September 19, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.

I agree with Curt.  This will be impressive.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 20, 2017, 05:57:14 AM
All right Tom, you're back in the saddle again!  Going to be fun watching your progress.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on September 20, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
Looks good Tom...I'm a fan of a darker color like Black or Green...but mostly because I like hardcore weathering  ;)


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on September 20, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
You're not done yet?..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on September 20, 2017, 09:53:47 AM
I have a confession of sorts to make.

I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what.  No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.

I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.

Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water.  ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.

However, I do have a little update.

Tom ;D


Good Morning Tom,


Yes, I still have some of that syndrome. Maybe we should name it. I think the only solution is to just keep walking into the train room and say that your not done yet and what an I going to do today. A list might help. Hot weather help for me. When it is 110 outside, i'm in the train room.


I wish you luck getting rid of this dreaded disease "trainitis" or what ever it is. We both have a long way to go. Have a great day my friend, drink a lot of water and play with trains.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.


Curt,

Thank you. When finished it will be just over two feet long.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.

I agree with Curt.  This will be impressive.

Jim


Jim,

I sure hope so, I'm working on it and the weathering will be the final touch.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:44:08 PM
All right Tom, you're back in the saddle again!  Going to be fun watching your progress.


Mark,

Yes, back in the saddle but not 10-12 hours a day like the past four months. I'm just in the pony saddle for now.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:45:32 PM
Looks good Tom...I'm a fan of a darker color like Black or Green...but mostly because I like hardcore weathering  ;)


John


John,

Thanks for the comment. I'm going with black and silver for a contrast. However, it will be heavily weathered.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:46:57 PM
You're not done yet?..... ;)


Greg, in one word, NOPE! For the rivet counters, the one word being NOPE. ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 06:57:17 PM
I have a confession of sorts to make.

I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what.  No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.

I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.

Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water.  ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.

However, I do have a little update.

Tom ;D


Good Morning Tom,


Yes, I still have some of that syndrome. Maybe we should name it. I think the only solution is to just keep walking into the train room and say that your not done yet and what an I going to do today. A list might help. Hot weather help for me. When it is 110 outside, i'm in the train room.


I wish you luck getting rid of this dreaded disease "trainitis" or what ever it is. We both have a long way to go. Have a great day my friend, drink a lot of water and play with trains.


Frank / Erieman


Evening Frank,

As always, it was great speaking with you this afternoon, Thank you for the package as well.

I decided to pull up my big boy pants and get back to work. I figured what ever I had will eventually go away. I must admit that today I found myself actually working on the layout and it's supporting cast for 8+ hours.

Time for some water, er, Diet Pepsi. 8) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Today I spent the better part of 8+ hours working on the tanker car fueling racks/platforms.

I should mention here although the kit comes with a set of instructions, I'm putting on my lawyer hat and say that the instructions are less than clear and unambiguous. There are parts mentioned that don't correspond to any part numbers. There are also parts shown with no part number.

For this kit, Walthers would have been better off by just saying "Glue this here, glue that there and then glue them all together." ;D ;D ;D ;D




I finally got all the pipes laid out in the correct order.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183907.jpeg)

More in a few. The Babe is calling.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 07:11:47 PM
Okay, back after a short Babe break!

I plan on painting the pipe supports with a Grimy Black color and the support bases with Floquil Aged Concrete.

I have two bottles of Floquil Weathered Black and three of the Grimy Black and didn't want to use the paint on this kit since it will be heavily weathered.

Tamiya makes a very close color to Floquil's Grimy Black. It is German Grey #XF-63.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183925.jpeg)



(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184028.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184028.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
The match for Floquil's Weathered Black is Tamiya #XF-69, Nato Black. Sorry, I forgot to take a picture of this set.

I added the small pipes to the long pipes. I don't know what to call them so I'll call them what Walthers called or named them - Parts 16,17 and 18. Yep, go figure.

I then glued those little round thingies to the top of parts 16, 17 and 18. I'm assuming the round pieces are pipe couplings or part 28 to be exact. ??? ???


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184043.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184043.jpeg)


Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 07:26:55 PM
Tamiya paints also come in a spray can. Not all the colors are available. For example, the Nato Black and German Grey don't come in spray. At least those numbers were not listed on the display rack.

I hand painted the Tamiya German Grey on the supports and Floquil Aged Concrete on the bases.

I used Tamiya Silver in the spray can to paint the pipes I

I really like how the Tamiya spray paints cover the parts.The silver was dry to the touch in just over an hour.

Here is one section of the pipes and rack. The top platform and filler pipes are to be added next.  This is one section and a total of four will be used. When finished the platform will be over 24 inches in length.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184057.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184057.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on September 21, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks?  ::)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks?  ::)


Ya love tha Babe, ya love tha Babe breaks! I do know where and who butters my bread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on September 21, 2017, 09:18:28 PM
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks?  ::)


Ya love tha Babe, ya love tha Babe breaks! I do know where and who butters my bread.

Tom ;D

It's a wise man that knows who butter's his bread.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on September 22, 2017, 12:32:55 AM
Tom,


I am glad to see and hear that you have overcome your lack of exuberance. I know of what you speak, I had big plans to build some F&C cars while I was here, they are coming back in the same form as when they left. Not all, but some. The layout is looking very nice, the petroleum storage will be a great addition to the empire. I vote for silver tanks, sun reflection consideration, you are in the south after all.


Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 22, 2017, 06:07:44 AM
Coming along nicely Tom.  I like the paint colors you chose.  I have one of the piping kits.  I looked over the instructions and you are correct.....they are as clear as mud. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on September 22, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
I use Neutral Grey #3 for Weathered Black.  You can get both paints and paint markers. 
https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray


(Forgive me if I've mentioned this before.)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 22, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
Beautiful work Tom. You're an impressive modeler. Thank you for the Tamiya color references. I wrote them down for my next trip that way.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:13:36 PM
Tom,


I am glad to see and hear that you have overcome your lack of exuberance. I know of what you speak, I had big plans to build some F&C cars while I was here, they are coming back in the same form as when they left. Not all, but some. The layout is looking very nice, the petroleum storage will be a great addition to the empire. I vote for silver tanks, sun reflection consideration, you are in the south after all.


Bob


Bob,

Thanks for stopping by, much appreciate the kind words as well. I'm not totally over the slowdown but I feel a surge of renewed energy.

The tanks will be silver and the platform will be black for some contrast. I didn't mean to say the tanks would be both black and sliver. Going back and reading what I wrote does indicate that, but no so. DUH on me.

This area will be another show stopper if I get it the way I intend.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:15:20 PM
Coming along nicely Tom.  I like the paint colors you chose.  I have one of the piping kits.  I looked over the instructions and you are correct.....they are as clear as mud.




Mark,

Thank you. This is a neat kit but as indicated, the instructions suck!

Tom ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:17:42 PM
I use Neutral Grey #3 for Weathered Black.  You can get both paints and paint markers. 
https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray (https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray)


(Forgive me if I've mentioned this before.)


dave


Dave,

I like Golden paints and I'll get a bottle of the Neutral Grey #3. I appreciate the info and I'm not sure you posted it here but I do remember seeing it somewhere.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:19:51 PM
Beautiful work Tom. You're an impressive modeler. Thank you for the Tamiya color references. I wrote them down for my next trip that way.


Curt,

Thank you for the very generous compliment on the work. Building models of all sorts has been my interest since I can remember.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
I added the platform to the first section and it fit very well. Surprising since the instructions were so bad.

More piping still needs to be added to both sides of the platform.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182152.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182203.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182203.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
Here is how the first section looks in place. I'm sure it will look better when I get the rest finished.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182125.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182140.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time. Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 23, 2017, 06:37:00 PM
I started work on the second section this afternoon. I'll join two sections together, build the other two and then add the two together.

Also, I'll wait and weather the entire platform at one time so it will look as if it weathered at the same time. Huh?


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182217.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182217.jpeg)


Hopefully I'll have more to add to the thread tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 23, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Great work Tom. One thing that amazes me about all your work is how crisp your paint lines always are. I'm jealous.  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 08:01:53 AM
Great work Tom. One thing that amazes me about all your work is how crisp your paint lines always are. I'm jealous.  ;D


Curt,

Thank you. Painting between the lines just takes a little patience, a steady hand and years of practice of not painting between the lines. ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 24, 2017, 08:18:34 AM
Ohhhhh.
 No he didn't just say that!, Did he? :-X
I guess there's just no hope for those of up who color outside the lines is there.


















Teasin' ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 08:53:38 AM
Ohhhhh.
 No he didn't just say that!, Did he? :-X
I guess there's just no hope for those of up who color outside the lines is there.



Teasin' ;)


There is always hope my friend, always hope.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 24, 2017, 09:10:26 AM
Really looking great Tom! 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 02:37:34 PM
Really looking great Tom!


Mark,

Thank you, very much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:08:14 PM
I finished more of the fuel oil platform today.

I'd like to bring something to your attention Walthers doesn't mention in the instructions.

The main pipe that comes out on the top of the pipe manifold is supposed to fit into one of the round openings in part number 11.  Part #11 is shown in the photo below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145433.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145433.jpeg)

Well, it doesn't and if you paint it like I did it for sure won't fit. The hole in part #11 is to small.

In the photo below you can see the pipe coming out of the top right of the manifold. This is the pipe that is to fit into the four round openings in #11.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145448.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145448.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
I'd like to mention I had already glued part #11 to the top of the fuel platform.

To remedy the problem, I used a 1/16 drill bit to enlarge the opening.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145523.jpeg)

I tell you this so you can drill the hole openings while the piece is flat on the workbench. I did manage to get mine drilled out but was very careful not to break the delicate part on the top of the platform posts.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Another issue is with the filler pipes. This pipe has a half round piece that is to be glued to the side of the flat spot on the pipe piece.

This is another piece that needs to be fixed in order for it to fit properly.

In the photo below you can see the pipes I'm referring to.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145539.jpeg)

Notice in the photo the bottom filler pipe has a section colored green? This is the area that needs to be trimmed or shaved off. In the photo you can see where I've trimmed the top pipe.

You only need to trim off a little. However, the piece to be trimmed is to much to do at one time. I took my time using a new #11 blade and trimmed a little at a time. I did this three times to get the proper amount trimmed.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
There are little handles that are to be added to the small tabs on the pipes coming out of the bottom of the pipe manifolds.

This is another small problem. There is no room for the handles to slide onto the small tabs. I used pliers to hold the handle and wedge the handle onto the small tab. The reason I used pliers is to hold the small part as it needs to be gently forced between the pipes and onto the tab.

Be careful doing this so the pipes don't break off. I didn't break any pipes so it can be done if you take your time and use pliers. I tried using tweezers but they wouldn't hold the part tight enough so I could press the handle between the pipes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145553.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145553.jpeg)


Also, the instructions don't tell/advise you that the handles need to be installed opposite of each other.

If you refer to my photo below, this is the proper way to install the handles. Notice that the handles are opposite on the opposing manifold. If you don't glue them in this position you will have the handles on the out side of the platform decking. This will make it hard for your little people to pull the handles. ;D ;D ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145607.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145607.jpeg)


More in a few and after the usual Diet Pepsi break.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:41:35 PM

Here the filler pipes are in the correct position on the pipe on top of the manifold.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145621.jpeg)


After making sure the filler pipes swiveled on the top pipe, they were removed and the silver paint was touched up on the pipes and handles.

When the silver paint was dry, I painted one handle red, one orange and the one in the middle white. I'm assuming my pipes have gas, diesel and oil.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:43:34 PM
Here is how the pipes look on the fuel platform.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145638.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145654.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145654.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145709.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145709.jpeg)


Here is another photo of the fuel platform in position.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145723.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145723.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145739.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145739.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 24, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
I also finished the other two fuel platforms.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145801.jpeg)

I'll have more to show tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on September 24, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
It's looking good Tom!  Good to see you back at the workbench, too!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: RWL on September 25, 2017, 05:31:34 AM
Tom,


Nice step by step, the platforms look good and will be a focal point once completed. Once again I have a comment, I think your color designations are off, in the Army, gasoline was red, diesel was yellow and lubricants were green. It has been awhile since I was in so I may have the gas and diesel backwards, but I don't remember white. Just another comment.


Looking good!


Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
It's looking good Tom!  Good to see you back at the workbench, too!


John,

Thank you my friend. I'm almost back to 100% as far as interest in the layout work is concerned.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2017, 03:28:26 PM
Tom,


Nice step by step, the platforms look good and will be a focal point once completed. Once again I have a comment, I think your color designations are off, in the Army, gasoline was red, diesel was yellow and lubricants were green. It has been awhile since I was in so I may have the gas and diesel backwards, but I don't remember white. Just another comment.


Looking good!


Bob




Bob,

Thanks for stopping by and posting your thoughts. I appreciate the compliment as well.

No problem on the comment reference to the POL handles. I wasn't using any guide as far as the color designations were concerned. Those were the colors I grabbed off the shelf to paint the handles. On the A&S RR most things are quite different.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2017, 03:34:00 PM
I finished the main tank car platform this afternoon. It turned out to be just a little over 24" in length.

In a previous post I mentioned I was going to build two platforms and then joint them together. This morning I decided not to build it in that order. Instead, I build one onto the others.

This allowed me to get a better fit on the pipes and to ensure the support brackets lined up correctly.

Tomorrow I'll finish adding all the swing filler pipes and handles.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152028.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152028.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152042.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152042.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 25, 2017, 03:39:25 PM
I have the Walthers piping kit and I'll use it to make pipes run from the supply tanks to the platform pipes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152056.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917153713.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917153713.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on September 25, 2017, 04:04:09 PM
It's looking good Tom!  Good to see you back at the workbench, too!


John,

Thank you my friend. I'm almost back to 100% as far as interest in the layout work is concerned.

Tom ;D


Great to hear it!  I came back from the Narrow Gauge Convention on fire - I've put in a couple 16 hour modeling days in the last week. I have found the inspiration always goes in cycles - especially when you have a big goal like you did with the NMRA open house.  Keep up the great work - we are watching!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on September 25, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 27, 2017, 06:30:16 AM
You're doing a great job on this kit Tom.  Thanks for all of the photos.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on September 27, 2017, 07:36:17 AM
Hi Tom:

Great job so and it looks great on your RR as usual.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 27, 2017, 08:04:01 AM
ACL 1504,
        Really excellent job build Tom.  Some were saying that they thought you weren't going to be able to make the pieces fit. Heck some were saying you weren't fit to sleep with pigs!  but I stood up for yah, and said that you were!  Good job.  I got your back brother. ;D KP-out!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
(https://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/4085395/501427531/stock-vector-wow-couple-handsome-happy-young-surprised-man-and-sexy-woman-in-glasses-with-open-mouths-and-501427531.jpg) (https://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/4085395/501427531/stock-vector-wow-couple-handsome-happy-young-surprised-man-and-sexy-woman-in-glasses-with-open-mouths-and-501427531.jpg)


Donato,

Thanks for the WOW and for stopping by, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:36:49 PM
You're doing a great job on this kit Tom.  Thanks for all of the photos.


Mark,

Thank you very much and you are very welcome. More pictures coming.

Tom ;D



Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:37:37 PM
Hi Tom:

Great job so and it looks great on your RR as usual.

Karl


Karl,

Much appreciated kind sir.




Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:39:30 PM
ACL 1504,
        Really excellent job build Tom.  Some were saying that they thought you weren't going to be able to make the pieces fit. Heck some were saying you weren't fit to sleep with pigs!  but I stood up for yah, and said that you were!  Good job.  I got your back brother. ;D KP-out!!!


Thommy,

Thanks brother from another mother. Come hook or crook, my pieces always fit! LOL!

I appreciate you standing and having my back. 8)

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:45:03 PM
I just realized my last picture was #3700, That is crazy! I'll probably reach 10,000 prior to getting the third level finished.

Today I finished adding the filler/supply pipes to the platform. I also installed some stairs on the one end. I plan on adding stairs on the other end as well. However, I first need to figure out how to use the end pipes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183349.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183349.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183405.jpeg)

Hopefully more tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 28, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
Beautiful work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person Saturday.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 28, 2017, 07:58:59 PM
ACL 1504,
       Tom, your AS build modeling is totally inspiring.  I'm so glad you're able to spend such consistent time advancing your AS on the way to a third level.  It's official!  I'm putting your AS on my bucket list.  I want a picture of my ASS next to your AS. :)  I'll be the one wearing... aaah khaki's.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 09:43:35 AM
Beautiful work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person Saturday.


Curt,

Thank you and I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 09:46:44 AM
ACL 1504,
       Tom, your AS build modeling is totally inspiring.  I'm so glad you're able to spend such consistent time advancing your AS on the way to a third level.  It's official!  I'm putting your AS on my bucket list.  I want a picture of my ASS next to your AS. :)  I'll be the one wearing... aaah khaki's.  Thanx Thom...




Thommy,

My AS is always on the move my friend. By the way, what blew up yours? This sure has turned into one AS of a thread. By the way, no pictures of yours or mine please. I'm having a hard enough time seeing as it is. Now I have to go and get that out of my mind.

Tom 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:38:03 PM
Now that I have the fuel platform built I can now remove the excess track.

I cut the track just past the end of the platform. I then wet the area with a small spray bottle and let it sit for ten minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153237.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153237.jpeg)

I then added more water and let it sit for ten additional minutes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153251.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153251.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
I used a thin putty knife and gently pried up the track and ballast. It all came up very cleanly.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153309.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153309.jpeg)

I removed the old ballast and cleaned the area.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153324.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:42:34 PM
I used the same two bumpers and glued them in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153340.jpeg)

Still plenty of room for the tank cars on the end.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153355.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153355.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:45:43 PM
I wanted to add a little more detail to the piping on the end of the platform. I trimmed the end pipes for this reason.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153108.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153108.jpeg)

I then painted the pipe connectors.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153125.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
The kit comes with the pipes to connect them to Walthers Piping kit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153139.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153139.jpeg)

When using the piping kit, the pipes all are located above ground level and take up a lot of space/real estate.

I decided to use the pipes in the fuel kit in a different way. I trimmed the end off the pipe and glued it in place as shown.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153152.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on September 29, 2017, 03:53:44 PM
I cut three pipes for the lower platform pipes and glued them in place as shown.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153209.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153209.jpeg)

I repeated the process for the upper pipes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153223.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153223.jpeg)

The pipes from the main supply tank to the platform pipes are now below the ground.

This frees up a good amount of real estate for more tanks and structures in the fuel facility yard.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on September 29, 2017, 05:06:14 PM
Looking good Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on September 29, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
Tom,
         Funny to me, every time I see someone modeling a little refinery or oil n gas with lots of pipes.  I hanker back to my third job working a summer at a little chemical refinery for Exxon in Chumuckla, Fla. (yes I did piping and wire running)  I've always wanted to model a big refinery with lots of pipes etc.

Perhaps one day I might stop thinking about it and move my arse and do it...  Nawh, right now I've built a perfect one in my mind. (but that's another story) ;D  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on September 29, 2017, 07:01:16 PM
Excellent Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on September 30, 2017, 06:45:47 AM
Looking good Tom.  I like the idea of burying the pipes underground.  Save space, and allows for vehicles to drive "over" them.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Looking good Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thanks and I had fun yesterday talking about all our youthful misdeeds.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 11:52:56 AM
Tom,
         Funny to me, every time I see someone modeling a little refinery or oil n gas with lots of pipes.  I hanker back to my third job working a summer at a little chemical refinery for Exxon in Chumuckla, Fla. (yes I did piping and wire running)  I've always wanted to model a big refinery with lots of pipes etc.

Perhaps one day I might stop thinking about it and move my arse and do it...  Nawh, right now I've built a perfect one in my mind. (but that's another story) ;D  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

Well, you piped up and had to say something gassy. I really bet it is scary to know what is in your mind! ;D ;D ;D   


Not that mine is any different.


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Excellent Tom.


Curt,

Thank you. It was good to see and visit with you yesterday.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
Looking good Tom.  I like the idea of burying the pipes underground.  Save space, and allows for vehicles to drive "over" them.


Mark,

Thank you sir. The pipes running underground did free up some space for me. I'll be sharing that later in the build thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 11:56:51 AM
Today I've been working on adding the end extension and stairs to the south end of the fuel platform.

I'll have more to show later this afternoon.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114548.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114548.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 04:50:08 PM
I used a piece of .030 styrene to make the small additional platform deck.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114601.jpeg)

I measured the width and cut it to fit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114646.jpeg)

Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 04:54:27 PM
The small guard rail section in the bottom of the photo is one of the original kit end pieces. I'm using two of these to make the side rails for the additional section.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114717.jpeg)

I only need the additional piece to be as long as the side and end piece.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114700.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 05:00:24 PM
I cut the styrene to fit and glued the three rail sections flush to the white base.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114734.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114734.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114749.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114749.jpeg)


After gluing these pieces together, I realized I incorrectly measured the width of the white base piece. These side rail sections are the original end pieces and not as wide (including the guard rail base) as the long side guard rail sections. I'll show the difference later in the build. Anyway, at this point, I decided to not redo the small addition to the correct width.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 05:06:08 PM
Since I kit bashed the four kits into one long section, I had three support stands left over. I used one of these extra sections to support the additional platform.

I glued the stairs and side railing together and painted the parts with Tamiya Nato Black.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114805.jpeg)

When the black paint dried to the touch, I painted the top of the railings with Floquil Reefer Yellow. When dry, I glued the end platform, stairs and support in place.

Here is how it looks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114821.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114821.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 05:10:17 PM
I mentioned I incorrectly measured the width of the platform but decided not to redo or fix it.

The mistake isn't noticeable from the side. However, looking down from a top view it is very noticeable. On the layout, it will not be possible to get a full top down view of the platform.

So, no harm, no problem.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017120141.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017120141.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 01, 2017, 05:16:46 PM
When I assembled the large Magnuson Fuel tank, I carelessly allowed some super glue to rundown and horizontally across the tank side. I didn't really notice it was an issue until I painted the tank with Tamiya Silver.

I used wet/dry sandpaper to remove the extra super glue.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153411.jpeg)

I sanded three separate times and sanded a little more off with each pass. I was careful not to sand off the rivet details.

Once repainted it looked fine. Weathering will also help.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153423.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153423.jpeg)

Hopefully, I won't make anymore mistakes for a few days, weeks or months. Heck, I'll be happy to survive the next few hours. :P :P

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 01, 2017, 06:53:31 PM
Beautiful work Tom. You set the bar very high for the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on October 02, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
The fuel stand looks right with the stairs added at the other end.....  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on October 04, 2017, 05:39:17 AM
The additional platform came out well Tom.  The slight size difference really doesn't take away from the look, which looks great!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Twist67 on October 04, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
Hi Tom.
Finally I managed to read your thread from page 160 of your old thread up to the last post on this one.
Your layout has coming a long way up to this point and it´s a fantastic way. so many awesome scenes and an incredible amount of work. I love it. Absolut beautiful scenery and landscape.
Great work.
Kind regards,Chris
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on October 04, 2017, 07:51:55 AM
Looking good, Billy Ray!   ;D

(Name that movie)

Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank.  The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:31:50 AM
Beautiful work Tom. You set the bar very high for the rest of us.


Curt,

Thanks for the very generous compliment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:32:38 AM
The fuel stand looks right with the stairs added at the other end.....  8)


Greg,

Thanks, I agree. It fits the scene better as well.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
The additional platform came out well Tom.  The slight size difference really doesn't take away from the look, which looks great!


Mark,

Thank you. When viewed from the side the difference doesn't show but I thought I'd point it out all the same.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:36:11 AM
Hi Tom.
Finally I managed to read your thread from page 160 of your old thread up to the last post on this one.
Your layout has coming a long way up to this point and it´s a fantastic way. so many awesome scenes and an incredible amount of work. I love it. Absolut beautiful scenery and landscape.
Great work.
Kind regards,Chris


Chris,

Really good to see you back on the forum.

I've been very busy over the past 6 months as you can see and I'm glad you had the opportunity to go back a review it all. It has been fun.

Tom ;D

Thank you for the kind words, very much appreciated.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:39:19 AM
Looking good, Billy Ray!   ;D

(Name that movie)

Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank.  The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too.


Bob,

Thank you sir.

Can't remember the movie but I remember Dan Aykroyd said it.

This was a fun little project and now I'm thinking about lighting the platform for night time operations.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on October 04, 2017, 09:25:50 AM



Tom


It really looks good - great addition to your layout.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on October 04, 2017, 02:23:58 PM
Looking good, Billy Ray!   ;D

(Name that movie)

Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank.  The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too.


Bob,

Thank you sir.

Can't remember the movie but I remember Dan Aykroyd said it.

This was a fun little project and now I'm thinking about lighting the platform for night time operations.

Tom ;D

Okay, I'll give you partial credit.   ;)  Dan Aykroyd spoke that line in "Trading Places".   8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 05, 2017, 07:58:26 AM
ACL 1504,
               What a fantastic detailed job on the tanker (un)/loading racks and "sanded tank" (hey perhaps that can be the unofficial nickname of the tank).  ;)  Keep up the riveting work bossman!  KP-out...  P.S. tell Mrs. P. I'm waving at her, she can probably see me now with her new peepers! 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 05, 2017, 03:14:09 PM
ACL 1504,
               What a fantastic detailed job on the tanker (un)/loading racks and "sanded tank" (hey perhaps that can be the unofficial nickname of the tank).  ;)  Keep up the riveting work bossman!  KP-out...  P.S. tell Mrs. P. I'm waving at her, she can probably see me now with her new peepers! 8)


Thom,

Thank you, much appreciated.

The Babe can see clearly now! She is waving back.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 05, 2017, 03:17:33 PM
Today I started to add the concrete pad for the entire fuel facility. The heavy trucks will need the concrete so they don't get stuck in the gravel and sand.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125732.jpeg)

I got a large piece of 1 ply cardboard from Sam Flax Art Supply and then marked where the road was needed.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125748.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 05, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
I removed the cardboard from the tracks.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125833.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125833.jpeg)

I replaced the fuel platform. It looks right at home.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125819.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125819.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time folks. Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 05, 2017, 03:23:35 PM
These are the tanks and quonset hut from the Walthers Interstate Fuel and Oil kit.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125804.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125804.jpeg)

I think it will take me two weeks to finish this area.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on October 05, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Something to consider:  A dirt berm around that large oil tank. 


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 05, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
Looks great Tom. I made a berm out of strip wood painted concrete color and white sand around the tank.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 06, 2017, 05:00:43 PM
Something to consider:  A dirt berm around that large oil tank. 


dave


Dave,

I do have something in mind. I show it later in the thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 06, 2017, 05:01:37 PM
Looks great Tom. I made a berm out of strip wood painted concrete color and white sand around the tank.


Curt,

Thanks for sharing your berm. I have something in mind I'll share/show later in the thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 06, 2017, 05:06:01 PM
I made a Tom Sawyer trade with Cuse last week. This week he delivered on his end. We are still working on my end.

I'm now the proud owner of the FOS Pier 27 structure built by Karl Scholtz.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165850.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165850.jpeg)

I'll use this building on the third level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165907.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165921.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 06, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Wow Tom I really like that fruit and steamship co. structure.  That's really cool.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 06, 2017, 07:16:30 PM
That's a great looking building Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: bparrish on October 06, 2017, 07:44:47 PM
Pretty cool.

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on October 07, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
I LOVE that building! The matte colors are perfect, the weathering is just right...I just came to the conclusion that I could not find a spot for it on my little backwoodsy RR...I'll be able to enjoy it on Tom's layout for years to come.


Some of you may know the story behind it...I was in N scale for many years, participating in this forum and its predecessor, and envying all of the craftsman kits and narrow gauge equipment in HO. My primary influencers were Frary & Hayden from the 70's. I always wanted to go that way, but...


One day, I was home early from work and PostalKarl suddenly announces in the build thread that "whoever responds first can have it" :o ...that was it for me in N scale! A week later, the building was in my possession, the N scale structures were in a closet, and I was calling my track HOn30. Thank you Karl for the push...I couldn't be happier!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on October 07, 2017, 02:25:41 PM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D

A seaport in Florida......Wow, wonder no on thought of that. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Raymo on October 07, 2017, 06:28:05 PM
Will we see a build thread on some A.M.B. barges? ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on October 07, 2017, 07:45:58 PM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D




Bob, I like the way you thing. Along with the two buildings that Tom is getting from me. Tahope could become a major exporter of citrus. Good idea. Let's see what the master has in mind.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
Wow Tom I really like that fruit and steamship co. structure.  That's really cool.  Thanx Thom...


Thom,

It is a beautiful structure. Not sure I'll ever use it but it is a Karl S. building.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
That's a great looking building Tom.


Curt,

Yes, it is.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
Pretty cool.

Thanx
Bob


Bob,

Thanks for stopping by.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 03:59:58 PM
I LOVE that building!

One day, I was home early from work and PostalKarl suddenly announces in the build thread that "whoever responds first can have it" :o ...that was it for me in N scale! A week later, the building was in my possession, the N scale structures were in a closet, and I was calling my track HOn30. Thank you Karl for the push...I couldn't be happier!


John


I don't really need the building but I'm very happy to have a PostalKarl structure.  ;D

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 04:00:46 PM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D


Bob,

NOPE!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 04:01:20 PM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D

A seaport in Florida......Wow, wonder no on thought of that. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Jim


Jim,

Not on this layout.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
Will we see a build thread on some A.M.B. barges? ;D


Raymo,

NOPE AGAIN!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 04:07:49 PM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport?   ???   ;)   :D




Bob, I like the way you thing. Along with the two buildings that Tom is getting from me. Tahope could become a major exporter of citrus. Good idea. Let's see what the master has in mind.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

The master wasn't going to make the deal. However, the chance to get a PostalKarl building was to much of a pull to pass on.

This Pier 27 building can't be used on real estate. It is a structure designed to fit on a pier with barges. The bay doors are to low and loading docks can't be made to fit.

What am I going to do with it? Put it on the shelf and see what the future brings.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 10, 2017, 04:12:18 PM
I've been working on the fuel facility and will have an update later in the week.

On a side note, Franks two citrus processing structures arrived this afternoon. Franks pictures really don't do the structures justice.

Nothing to do with Frank's pictures, its just that they are beautiful. And, I'll add, larger than they appear in the pictures.

Anyway, I need to make a few minor FEDEX OOPS repairs. Nothing serious just minor loose parts.

I'll show the buildings later in the week after the repairs are made.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 02:32:23 PM
I'm way behind on any updates. I have been working on the fuel facility. I'll try to get ya'll an update later this afternoon or tomorrow at the latest.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 16, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
I was excited that there was an update :) but realized no pictures :-\.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 05:33:57 PM
I was excited that there was an update :) but realized no pictures :-\ .


Curt,

Thanks for stopping by. I'll have a few pictures within the hour.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
In my world I thought everyday was a Saturday. Now, with all the 1:1 stuff I'm doing, I'm beginning to wonder.

Anyway, I continued making the concrete driveway for the fuel facility. After all the cardboard was glued in place and dry, I added scribed expansion joints every 15 HO scale feet. I used a pointed hole tip to scribe the lines.

I then painted a layer of full strength white glue over the cardboard. I've mentioned this method in the past. I add the white glue to seal the cardboard from future humidity issues  that may arise due to the changes in humidity.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173457.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173457.jpeg)

Here the location of the horizontal tanks and the office. For a few weeks, I had the two reversed but like this much better.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173513.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173513.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 05:52:57 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173531.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 05:53:04 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173546.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 16, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173604.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173604.jpeg)


I removed the structures and the fuel rack and painted the concrete with full strength Floquil Concrete.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173621.jpeg)

Notice the scribed lines are no longer visible? Well, they are there but I'll need to redo them. I can just barely make out the original lines.

More tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 16, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
Awesome modeling Tom. Are you doing oily dirt under the platform?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on October 17, 2017, 07:30:34 AM
To paraphrase Col. Hannibal Smith - "I love it when a scene comes together."  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on October 17, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
Awesome Scene Tom. 

Just let me point a couple of things that are not right................AH, Gee, I seem to be having a problem.  I can't seem to find anything that doesn't look right.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
Awesome modeling Tom. Are you doing oily dirt under the platform?


Curt,

Thank you, much appreciated as always.

Yes, I'll dirty oil and fuel stains on the bottom. The reason I haven't done it as yet is due to I can't decide if I want dirt of gravel under the platform.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
To paraphrase Col. Hannibal Smith - "I love it when a scene comes together."  ;D


Bob,

Thanks, and so do I! I'll be happy to see this one finished. It seems like it takes a hundred little things to get one scene going.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
Awesome Scene Tom. 

Just let me point a couple of things that are not right................AH, Gee, I seem to be having a problem.  I can't seem to find anything that doesn't look right.

Jim


Jim,

Thanks Butty, much appreciated.

Are you sure your memory isn't to blame for not finding something?  ;D ;D ;D ;D  I was going to say something else, ah heck, can't remember. :'(


Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
I added new expansion lines to the concrete pad. Not much else to say for that.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173922.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173922.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173954.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173954.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:49:43 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173937.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173937.jpeg)


I also started the weathering process for the fuel platform. It will be a several step process but here is a look at the first application.

Here is a before look.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173730.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173730.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:54:56 PM
I applied a coat of A&I stain to the pipes. I used Hunterline Light Gray for the first application.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173746.jpeg)

When that dried, I added some Hunterline Medium Brown. The medium bown looks like spilled fuel oil.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173833.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173833.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 02:57:13 PM

I've added more medium brown and in a few days will finish the pipe weathering. These photos show the front pipes but all the pipes were weathered in the same manner.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173851.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173907.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
The fuel facility area is five feet in length. I want to enclose it all with a chain link fence.

I'm using 1/16" brass rod for the posts and horizontal top brace. This fence will be 10' high as I think that is to high for any gators to get in or get out.

In this next photo you can see Allie Gator trying to get out of the fenced area. This fence is 8 feet high. Chris Hughes picture.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017151548.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017151548.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
I'm spacing the posts every ten feet. I drilled a 1/16 hole every ten feet around the fuel compound.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174033.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174033.jpeg)

I cut 85 posts from the 1/16 brass rods.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174047.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174047.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:28:38 PM

This chain link fence will be almost 8.5 feet in total length. That is 8.5 1:1 feet and not 8.5 HO scale feet.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174103.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174103.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174119.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174119.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:29:32 PM

Continued after a cold Diet Pepsi break.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174133.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174133.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:40:48 PM
I cut the brass rod posts to 15 HO scale feet in length. I want to add some barbed wire to the top. I used pliers to put a 40 degree bend at one end. I made the bend at 2 HO scale feet. The bend used 1 HO scale foot and that leaves me with two HO feet to plant the post and two feet at the top.

In the photo below you can see the bend.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142611.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142611.jpeg)

I was telling Greg what I wanted to do but didn't have a vice. He suggested hammering the brass end. You can see I have one post taped to the angle weight, shown above.

I used a small steel weight shown below as the "masher".

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142628.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142628.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:47:51 PM
I placed the steel bar on the angle portion of the brass rod and made several hammering blows with a hammer to flatten the end.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142644.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142644.jpeg)


I'll do a little fast forward here and show ya'll the five step process for the fence posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142700.jpeg)

1. Cut the brass rod to length.

2. Bend one end to the angle of your choice.

3. Flatten the bent end.

4. Used the Dremel disc to shape the top.

5. Drill two or three small holes in the flattened portion. I went with two.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 17, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
Eighty hockey sticks made from the brass rod.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142715.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142715.jpeg)

Hockey sticks shaped and drilled.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142729.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017142729.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on October 17, 2017, 04:08:51 PM
Hi Tom,

You oil facility is looking great.  Thanks for pictures of your progress and explanation of what you have done.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 17, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
WOW Tom, that is some real precision work with the fence posts.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on October 17, 2017, 08:08:15 PM
Tom


That is some very nice work.  Looks like you have some experience with making brass parts. ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on October 17, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
Tom, how did you drill the holes that precisely?


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on October 18, 2017, 06:33:46 AM
That is some fine detailed work you're doing Tom.  It's really going to make that scene pop!   Am I seeing things or is there a switch machine hidden in the large oil tank for that turnout?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 18, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
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Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
Hi Tom,

You oil facility is looking great.  Thanks for pictures of your progress and explanation of what you have done.


Steve,

Thank you for the kind words. Pictures save me quite a bit of time moving the thread forward.

Thanks for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:21:46 PM
WOW Tom, that is some real precision work with the fence posts.


Curt,

Thanks for the compliment. Please see my response to deemery below.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:23:01 PM
Tom


That is some very nice work.  Looks like you have some experience with making brass parts. ;)


John,

Thank you, much appreciated. Brass I can work with, plaster - not so much! ;) ;)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:28:49 PM
Tom, how did you drill the holes that precisely?


dave


Dave,

Great question. I think about 95% of the holes are spot on. The ones that aren't will be used on the back side of the fuel platform.

Here is how I did it.

I used my 40+ year old Dremmel and Dremel press.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131740.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131740.jpeg)

When the post is laying flat, the curved/top portion of the fence is not level with the drill press table. This made it difficult to get a good drill spot on the brass. The drill bit wanted to "float" and grab where it wanted.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131755.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131755.jpeg)

continued below -
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:32:20 PM
You can see when I press the top flat, the post is at an angle. This is the angle the top portion was when the post was flat. Since the post is longer than the top, the angle is more pronounced.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131810.jpeg)

I used small pliers to hold the piece flat in place to make the holes.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131824.jpeg)

As I mentioned, not all the posts turned out perfect but they are usable.

Hope this explanation helps.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:42:46 PM
That is some fine detailed work you're doing Tom.  It's really going to make that scene pop!   Am I seeing things or is there a switch machine hidden in the large oil tank for that turnout?


Mark,

Hey, thanks for stopping by and for the compliment.

No, you are not seeing things. The purpose of the tank in that location is two fold. The first is obviously to hide the Tortoise Switch Machine.

When laying out the track and moving turnouts around, this location was chosen for the business end of the #8 left hand turnout. As mentioned, the tank hides the switch motor.

Secondly, I wanted the large tank there to take the viewers eyes from the corner of the wall. I wanted a smooth viewing transition from the tank to the trees.

The chain link fence and more scenery will also help blend the corner into the scenery. More on that later in the thread.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 18, 2017, 01:48:35 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/59/0d/8a/590d8af915b591e372f6f9d80fcfe4ab.jpg) (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/59/0d/8a/590d8af915b591e372f6f9d80fcfe4ab.jpg)


Donato,

You are very kind. "Tom Terrific" first aired on the Captain Kangaroo show in 1957. I watched it all the time. Manfred was his dog.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:33:21 PM
This afternoon I started working on the chain link fence posts. This project was more involved than I figured. However, anything worth doing is worth doing right.

I first tried to come up with an easy way to build the fence.

I first drew a base line and pencil post every 10 HO scale apart.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172302.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172302.jpeg)


I placed the posts over the pencil line and taped them in place. I used the ruler to hold the posts flush on the line.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172318.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172334.jpeg)


I then placed the horizontal rod on the top of the post under the bent portion.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172351.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172351.jpeg)

This wasn't going to work as the bar is on the outside.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:39:26 PM
I then came up with the brilliant idea to place the horizontal bar on the inside. To do this I had to reverse the posts and let them hang over the edge so I could work with the posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172428.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172428.jpeg)

The bar doesn't work this way either.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172409.jpeg)

The brilliant idea that wasn't.

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
There just isn't any easy way to do this and make it look correctly. Well, there is one. This is the one I wanted to avoid.

Remember, anything worth doing is to do it right the first time.

I cut individual horizontal bars and fit them between the posts.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172447.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172447.jpeg)

The first section I built was the section behind the large tank. I applied a little rosin to the brass posts and bars and soldered them in place.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172523.jpeg)

Diet Pepsi time!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:50:04 PM
Prior to making the fence, I made sure I had the posts set back far enough to avoid any interference with rolling stock.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172507.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172507.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172539.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:52:56 PM
The next section I worked on required 22 posts. This was more labor intensive and took me a few hours to complete.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172557.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172557.jpeg)




I think the time was well worth the effort.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172615.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172615.jpeg)

More in a few.


Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 19, 2017, 05:55:40 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172646.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172630.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191017172630.jpeg)


Folks, I'm done for the day on this project. Tomorrow I'll finish the rest of the fence excluding the gates. I'm still thinking how I want to build those. Of course they need to open and close.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on October 19, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
The fence is absolutely going to be worth the time spent, awesome Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on October 19, 2017, 07:25:36 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire.   ::) :)


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 19, 2017, 07:45:50 PM
Beautiful modeling Tom. The fence is going to look incredible when finished. I was thinking  (that's dangerous :o) that if it is a electric fence you could use straight wire at the top. Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on October 19, 2017, 09:35:08 PM
Hi Tom,

Great tutorial and a good looking fence.  The bar between the posts looks so much better than your other trials. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on October 20, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
The fence is really incredible Tom. 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on October 20, 2017, 06:09:08 AM
The fence is really incredible Tom.


My thoughts exactly..."just a detail" but master craftsmanship and, as usual, no compromises. Nice work!


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
The fence is absolutely going to be worth the time spent, awesome Tom.


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciated. I think in the end it will be just what I wanted.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire.   ::) :)


dave


Dave,

No sure anyone makes HO scale barbed wire so I'll just use loose woven thread like I did on the wood fence around the farm area.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire.   ::) :)


dave


Curt,

Thank you for the kind words. There will be no barbed wire except in your imagination. ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:45:16 PM
Hi Tom,

Great tutorial and a good looking fence.  The bar between the posts looks so much better than your other trials.


Steve,

Very much appreciate your support on the fence. I agree on the bars in the middle, just looks correct.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
The fence is really incredible Tom.


Mark,

Thank you. All the more details for you to see when ever you get here.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:02:51 PM
The fence is really incredible Tom.


My thoughts exactly..."just a detail" but master craftsmanship and, as usual, no compromises. Nice work!


John


John,

Thank you for the generous compliment. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
My plans for today included making the long fence. Mr. Murphy had other plans and due to Murph and 1:1 life stuff, the fence didn't get started.

I didn't get in the train room until well after 1 PM so I decided to make the gates for the main entrance to the fuel facility.

During the process mistakes were made. Note the plural on the mistake issue. I'll share them with you all the same as I usually do.

I used a simple but effective way to make the gate hinges.

I started by cutting four short, I didn't measure just eyeballed, pieces of brass tubing. I used 3/32 X .014 tubing.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170509.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170509.jpeg)

I then slid the 1/16 brass rods into the tubing. as shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170525.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170525.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:17:07 PM
I aligned the four pieces as shown in the next photo.

I taped the rods so there would be no movement when soldering.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170539.jpeg)

I then soldered the tubing to make the hinge. I made sure not to get any solder on the inside rod. This is the rod that will swing the gate.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170555.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170555.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:19:45 PM
Next I made a 90 degree bend in the brass rod and checked it twice for squareness.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170610.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170610.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017170624.jpeg)

At this point in the build I took a Diet Pepsi break so now is a good time for another DP break.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Here is a look at the beginning of the gate build.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173524.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173524.jpeg)

I then started making the left half of the gate. When I got to the bottom section I realized I made a mistake in the gate height in relation to the hinge.


In this next photo you can see the point of my file pointing to the mistake.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173539.jpeg)

If these three pieces are soldered together, the swing bar (on the right) won't fit into the hinge.

I decided to solder only the bottom and angle rods. I then used the Dremel cut off disc and carefully removed some of the brass rod from the two inside pieces.

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:36:23 PM
Not taking a chance in solder getting on the swing rod, I used tape to cover the rod as I soldered the other two pieces.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173555.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173555.jpeg)

You can see in the next photo where I dodged a bullet.

You can barely see the gap between the bottom rod and hinge. The fit is good enough to make it look like the pieces are soldered together and a part of the hinge.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173608.jpeg)


Better news is that the gate swings with no interference.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
My faulty measuring caused another problem. The right gate post was cut to short making the right gate fit lower than the left gate.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173624.jpeg)


I wasn't going to make a new post and hinges so I simply soldered on a short rod piece to the bottom. I then fit it in the hole and cut off a little on the bottom until it was level with the left side.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173638.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:44:44 PM
I started making the right gate (it shows it on the left).  I made the gates in reverse on the pattern as the top portion of the fence post with the angle wouldn't lay flat.

I made sure the two gate halves were level.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173652.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173652.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173704.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173704.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:47:37 PM
Fast forward and I'm finished. I made the same mistake and same correction on the right gate as I did on the left one.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173718.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173718.jpeg)

Here are the two gate halves in place - the main entrance.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173732.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 06:49:17 PM
Open for business -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173748.jpeg)

Closed for business -

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173802.jpeg)

Done for now and finished as well.

Thanks to all following.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 20, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
Beautiful and very precise modeling.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 21, 2017, 12:39:52 PM
Every time I follow your builds I think to myself, this guy can't astound me any more. But to my surprise and astonishment, you do.....you really do.

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on October 21, 2017, 01:58:52 PM
Tom is there anything you can't do in modeling?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 22, 2017, 08:56:05 AM
Tom,
        Beautiful chain link fencing!  Looks awesome sir!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
Beautiful and very precise modeling.


Curt,

Thank you kind sir.

Not as precise as I wanted but it works.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
Every time I follow your builds I think to myself, this guy can't astound me any more. But to my surprise and astonishment, you do.....you really do.


Donato,

Thank you very much.

You are very generous with your compliments on the fence. It was a fun build and I look forward to building the rest and especially the track gates.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:12:54 PM
Tom is there anything you can't do in modeling?


Jan,

Thank you as well for the very kind comment in the form of your question. I'm sure there are things I can't do but those are the things I haven't tried yet.

I've built chain link fences in the past but none with an operating gate. So this was a first for me. I still need to build the track gates.

I appreciate you following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:14:24 PM
Tom,
        Beautiful chain link fencing!  Looks awesome sir!  Thanx Thom...


Thommy,

You compliment on the fence is much appreciated, thank you. It was fun to do and the fun will continue this coming week.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:18:39 PM
I didn't get much work done on the layout yesterday. The Judge and I played around and did a few new videos in the new areas of the layout.

Here, ACL Mike #835 pulls a string of billboard reefers through the area of South Bedford Forrest.

We did four videos which will follow this one.

Hope you enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLk50mPWfbU
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
The same ACL reefer train pulls the billboards northbound around Baker's Curve and passes through the cut at Perkin's Farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6pTetiTFNg
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:44:23 PM
Seaboard GP9s #1803 and 1814 pulling local freight through the cut at Perkin's Farm. The local police officer is a train fan so he pulls up on the bridge to see the action.

Disappointed the train wasn't longer, he leaves after the caboose enters Baker's Curve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCLS-gdWwA
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on October 22, 2017, 01:51:15 PM
Great videos!  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 01:59:28 PM
Here we have ACL A-B-A units pulling a freight through Bedford Forrest Forest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3YsKC16Rk
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 22, 2017, 02:00:10 PM
Great videos!  Jim


Jim,

Thank you and thanks for following along.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 22, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
Ha-ha!  Watchin your videos are a lot of fun T.  The scenery and sounds make it so realistic for the viewer.   I was curious what does momma think of your trains?  Does she view with friends also?   Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Judge on October 22, 2017, 03:49:39 PM
Tom - The videos turned out really well.  I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place.  I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.

The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks.  I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype.  Probably time for a boiler test!

The Judge
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 22, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
Great videos. Was the police car pulled on a string?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: sdrees on October 22, 2017, 10:22:12 PM
Nice videos Tom.  The string of freight cars in the 4th video have  very nice weathering.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Dave K. on October 23, 2017, 06:24:40 AM
Love the videos! 👍🏻👍🏻
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on October 23, 2017, 08:09:37 AM
Great videos.  There are a LOT of trees on the layout.   8)


Jeff
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on October 23, 2017, 08:40:15 AM
Tom - The videos turned out really well.  I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place.  I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.

The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks.  I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype.  Probably time for a boiler test!

The Judge


That avatar looks familiar Bill..... ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Erieman on October 23, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
Good Morning Tom,


Let me join everyone in sending you accolades for the superb videos of your recent accomplishments on the layout. They are awesome. The scenery is just beautiful and the police car, well, what can I say. It looks like you and the judge had a real fun day putting the videos together. Keep up the marvelous work.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on October 23, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Tom,
 Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that scale police car ?  ;D...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 23, 2017, 12:19:22 PM
Tom,
 Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that police car ?  ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy


....no, I think they were on the way to Krispy Kreme.....
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Cuse on October 23, 2017, 03:40:57 PM
Great scenery perfectly captured! Well done Tom.


John
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire.   ::) :)


dave


Dave,

No sure anyone makes HO scale barbed wire so I'll just use loose woven thread like I did on the wood fence around the farm area.

Tom ;D




Dave,

I think I figured it out.  :-X :-X  I've been doing a little experimentation and it looks promising. I'm surprised nobody has done it in the past.

I'm very excited about how it looks on the top of the fence.

STAY TUNED LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 24, 2017, 01:42:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSPBg8ob9Q 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:43:10 PM
Thom and others,

The pool folks came by and we had a small issue that took two+ hours to fix.

I won't be able to show the barbed wire until later this evening. Sorry bout dat!

Tom 8) 
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:46:52 PM
Ha-ha!  Watchin your videos are a lot of fun T.  The scenery and sounds make it so realistic for the viewer.   I was curious what does momma think of your trains?  Does she view with friends also?   Thanx Thom...


Thom,,

My Babe will come out and ask what is new or what have I done lately. Momma loves the trains, and says, "Oh, that is new". I respond and say, "Yes, it was three years ago as well."

I could buy a new brass loco put it on the layout and say, "Oh, I've had that one for years?" and so it goes.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:48:06 PM
Tom - The videos turned out really well.  I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place.  I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.

The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks.  I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype.  Probably time for a boiler test!

The Judge


Bill,

Thanks for adding the loco information. It is amazing we have locos still running well after 40+ years.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:50:40 PM
Great videos. Was the police car pulled on a string?


Curt,

Thank you as always.

I taped a light colored thread to the front bottom of the Po-Po car and pulled it up and over as the train passed under. Pretty neat!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:51:54 PM
Nice videos Tom.  The string of freight cars in the 4th video have  very nice weathering.


Steve,

Thank you. I need to weather more of the fright cars. I wish there were 30 hours in my day.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:52:33 PM
Love the videos! 👍🏻👍🏻


Dave,

Thank you and thanks for watching.


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:54:38 PM
Great videos.  There are a LOT of trees on the layout.   8)


Jeff


Jeff,

Thanks for watching. The videos were fun to do.

I think I have close to 600+ trees on the layout and the second level isn't finished. The trees, I believe, make the layout look like it is in the south.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 02:57:40 PM
Good Morning Tom,


Let me join everyone in sending you accolades for the superb videos of your recent accomplishments on the layout. They are awesome. The scenery is just beautiful and the police car, well, what can I say. It looks like you and the judge had a real fun day putting the videos together. Keep up the marvelous work.


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thank you, much appreciated. The Judge and I had fun doing them and we didn't even have to redo any of the four.

I mentioned to Jeff above that I feel my scenery and how it's done makes the layout look like it is set in the South.

I'll keep going as you say!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
Tom,
 Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that scale police car ?  ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy


Tom,

Thank you for the  compliment. If you look real close at the video, you'll see no driver at all. While on the department, I can't tell you how many times I sat near the track waiting for the freight trains to come through.  To bad all the trains look the same now.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Tom,
 Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that police car ?  ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy


....no, I think they were on the way to Krispy Kreme.....


Donato,

Dunkin Donuts, they give the cops half off! 8) 8)


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 03:04:10 PM
Great scenery perfectly captured! Well done Tom.


John


John,

Much appreciate your compliment, thank you. As you know I worked very hard to get the scenery to look correct for the location.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
I've been thinking about the barbed wire question posed by Dave Emery. I came upon an idea and tried it this morning.

My chain link fence material is actually wedding tulle or veil. I know ya'll have seen my other fence around Delwin's Boat and Net Storage using this same material. The tulle is shown below.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133358.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133358.jpeg)

I was looking at this material and especially the top portion. I thought this would make a great barbed wire look if cut properly.

I used a metal ruler and trimmed the top off as shown below.

Keep in mind this photo is a close up view so it looks out of scale for HO.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 08:03:55 PM
I cut the top portion off and trimmed one end by cutting the "barbs" off of the first few sections.

I then used tweezers and fed the tulle through the holes in the top of my fence posts.

I also glued the tulle fencing to the brass posts. I used CAA/super glue to secure the barbed wire on each end post.

Here is how the first section of the fence and barbed wire looked.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133427.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133427.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133441.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133441.jpeg)

I think it looks great for barbed wire in HO scale.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 08:05:36 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133456.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133456.jpeg)


I spray painted the fence, posts and barbed wire with Tamiya Silver.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133645.jpeg)


I'll have more on the fencing using the barbed wire tomorrow.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on October 24, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Tom,
          What a cool idear my man.  If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire.  You wouldn't call me a liar, would you?   If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you?  If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you?  ;D  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jrmueller on October 25, 2017, 07:25:28 AM
Tom. Great idea for the barbed wire.  One way or another I am going to have to stop by and see you on our way thru Orlando after/before the AutoTrain.  Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ReadingBob on October 25, 2017, 07:43:49 AM
Outstanding job on the fence!   :D  The videos are really cool too.  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on October 25, 2017, 07:55:23 AM
Hi Tom:

 Great looking fence. Love the barbed wire.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on October 25, 2017, 08:36:06 AM
Neat..... 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on October 25, 2017, 10:48:51 AM
That is some bad looking barbed wire.  I don't think anyone would try to climb that fence.

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 25, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
What a brilliant idea Tom. You are a true master builder.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on October 25, 2017, 01:02:58 PM
I've been thinking about the barbed wire question posed by Dave Emery. I came upon an idea and tried it this morning.
...
I was looking at this material and especially the top portion. I thought this would make a great barbed wire look if cut properly.

I used a metal ruler and trimmed the top off as shown below.

Keep in mind this photo is a close up view so it looks out of scale for HO.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg)

More in a few.
Leave it to Tom to figure out how to do barbed wire!!!!  (My question was mostly in jest, but I'm very glad to see it sparked an actually useful result.)

dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 25, 2017, 01:19:28 PM
Tom,
          What a cool idear my man.  If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire.  You wouldn't call me a liar, would you?   If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you?  If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you?  ;D  Thanx Thom...




Wonder what the edit was about????? Things were starting to get hot and steamy there for a while!!!!

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 25, 2017, 01:20:55 PM
That is the bestest barbed wire fence I've ever seen being modeled.....!!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:46:20 PM
Tom,
          What a cool idear my man.  If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire.  You wouldn't call me a liar, would you?   If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you?  If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you?  ;D  Thanx Thom...


Settle down big boy, settle down! In answer to your questions, NO-well maybe, NO and YES-I have no idea who you are and NO!

TELSR1
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:48:45 PM
Tom. Great idea for the barbed wire.  One way or another I am going to have to stop by and see you on our way thru Orlando after/before the AutoTrain.  Jim


Jim,

Thank you. You are always welcome to come by when you travel AutoTrain. My layout is between Sanford and where you go. I'm a little over a mile off I-4 when passing through Orlando.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:51:07 PM
Outstanding job on the fence!   :D  The videos are really cool too.  ;)


Bob,

Thank you, much appreciated. The Judge and I had fun doing the videos. They turned out better than I expected.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
Hi Tom:

 Great looking fence. Love the barbed wire.

Karl


Karl,

Thanks buddy. Always appreciate you stopping by. The barbed wire idea a just a lucky thought.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:53:22 PM
Neat..... 8)


Thank you kind sir!

Tom 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:56:33 PM
That is some bad looking barbed wire.  I don't think anyone would try to climb that fence.

Jim


Jim,

Thank you, be careful not to scratch your self when you check it out in person.

I hope no one or any thing like this guy tries to climb it either.

Tom ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017151548.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-171017151548.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 02:58:16 PM
What a brilliant idea Tom. You are a true master builder.


Curt,

You are too very kind my friend. The inspiration comes from an idea Dave Emery put in my pea brain. It sure got me thinking.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:03:12 PM

Leave it to Tom to figure out how to do barbed wire!!!!  (My question was mostly in jest, but I'm very glad to see it sparked an actually useful result.)

dave


Dave,

Even in jest, I couldn't shake the idea of how to do it. It came to me when I was purchasing the tulle. I was at Joan's Fabrics, waiting in line with ten women waiting to have their fabric cut. While standing there, I started looking at the tulle and that is when it hit me - I couldn't wait to get home and try it.

Thanks for the push!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Tom,
          What a cool idear my man.  If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire.  You wouldn't call me a liar, would you?   If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you?  If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you?  ;D  Thanx Thom...




Wonder what the edit was about? ??? ? Things were starting to get hot and steamy there for a while!!!!


Like Sgt. Shultz, I no nothing! 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
That is the bestest barbed wire fence I've ever seen being modeled.....!!!


Donato,

Thank you for the kind remark. It turned out pretty decent.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
When adding the fencing to the gates, I realized I couldn't glue the material to the swing post. To get the material on the gate and still have the fence open/close I only glued the material to three sides.

I cut the fencing to size and only glued the top, out side and bottom to the posts.

You can see in the next picture how it was done. The ruler is where no glue was applied.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133511.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133511.jpeg)

By doing this, it allowed me to slip gate post into the hinges.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133524.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133524.jpeg)

I just realized I glued the fencing material to the wrong side of the gate and fence. I'm leaving it as is. The gate is one the back side and hopefully won't show that much.

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
I made the same mistake on the first section I did as well.

Not going to redo this one either. Lesson learned.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:19:41 PM
I didn't realize my mistake until this afternoon so you'll see the fencing on the wrong side on the next short section as well.

 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133541.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133541.jpeg)


The weight is holding the fence up until I permanently plant it.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133603.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133603.jpeg)


Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 03:22:12 PM
Well, on a positive note, I caught the mistake prior to adding fencing to any of the longer sections.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133657.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133657.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133711.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133711.jpeg)


More later this evening, hopefully that is.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
This afternoon I was able to finish 36 more inches of the fence. Getting the curve just right was a bit tricksie but in the end it all worked.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152614.jpeg)

The reason it was a bit tricksie was due to the soldered points on each side of each post. As you know, solder doesn't bend.

As I inserted the post in each hole I gently bent the horizontal bar between the posts. Hopefully I'll get all the fencing build/soldered tomorrow. I can then add the fence material and start the scenery process.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152629.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152629.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152642.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 25, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
Tom I really  like the gate. I have seen chain link fence gates sag like that. Are you planning on adding some rust or keep it new? Are you planning on putting a chain and lock on the gate?
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: postalkarl on October 26, 2017, 07:53:20 AM
Hi Tom:

what can I saw but WOW!!!!! Great job.

Karl
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:01:36 PM
Tom I really  like the gate. I have seen chain link fence gates sag like that. Are you planning on adding some rust or keep it new? Are you planning on putting a chain and lock on the gate?


Curt,

Thank you, appreciate the support. I've seen the sag as well and I may let one do just that.

I'm going to weather the crude out of the fences. Good idea about the gate chain. I'll need to add two short horizontal bars to the gates so the chain will look correct.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
Hi Tom:

what can I saw but WOW!!!!! Great job.

Karl


Karl,

Thank you. very much all the support on the fence.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
Today I finally got all the fencing finished. In the next photo you can see I have every piece taped down and ready for soldering.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155515.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155515.jpeg)

I realized I forgot to add the end fence supports so I added them this afternoon.

I'll respray this section when I spray paint all the rest of the fence.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155529.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
The new section was test fit and all fit as planned.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155544.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155559.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155615.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155615.jpeg)


Time to make the track gates.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155629.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155629.jpeg)

Continued after a Diet Pepsi break.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:13:16 PM
I previously explained how I did the gates so I'll not add the narrative for it again.

The gate on the right is a little wider than the one on the left due to how the gate on the left spans the turnout track. You'll see this in later photos.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155643.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155643.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155656.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155656.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155711.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155724.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155737.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155817.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 26, 2017, 04:15:11 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155750.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155750.jpeg)


Now to add all the chain link fencing. And, the barbed wire of course.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on October 26, 2017, 04:23:58 PM
(https://o2uk.i.lithium.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/20815i933B583A53EF297D?v=1.0)


ASTOUNDED!!!

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 26, 2017, 06:20:18 PM
Top Notch work Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on October 26, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
(http://www.movitees.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/theforce_flat.jpg)

(https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/pepsi-strong-copy.jpg?w=580)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: JusticeCity on October 27, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
Now that is decent modelling!!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 04:32:26 PM


ASTOUNDED!!!


Donato,

Thank you kind sir.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
Top Notch work Tom.


Curt,

Thank you as well my friend.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 04:34:13 PM
(http://www.movitees.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/theforce_flat.jpg) (http://www.movitees.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/theforce_flat.jpg)

(https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/pepsi-strong-copy.jpg?w=580) (https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/pepsi-strong-copy.jpg?w=580)


Jan,

Thank you, much appreciated. Now that is a force I can drink to!  ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
Now that is decent modelling!!


Marty,

Thank you for the kind compliment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 04:59:30 PM
Today I spent several hours on the fencing for the back fence, track gates and a short portion of the front left.

Getting the material on straight and even takes a lot of patience. Threading the barbed wire is tedious to say the least.

The next six photos represent about 5+ hours.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017165725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017165725.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133302.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133302.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 05:00:16 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017165710.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133348.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 27, 2017, 05:00:58 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133331.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133316.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: S&S RR on October 27, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
Tom


Very nice detail work! It real looks great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 27, 2017, 07:05:03 PM
Beautiful Tom.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: MAP on October 29, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
Dang you do great work Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Tom


Very nice detail work! It real looks great.


John,

Thank you my friend, much appreciated.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2017, 10:37:46 AM
Beautiful Tom.


Curt,

Thank you as well. I hope you are over the pizza flu!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Dang you do great work Tom!


Mark,

Thank you, appreciate the kind compliment. I need to have it look good when you get here.  ;D ;D ;D


Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on October 29, 2017, 10:40:40 AM
Today I decided to be very lazy. I plan to do some reading, chilling out and having a Diet Pepsi or two.

I'll start back on the layout and the rest of the chain link fencing tomorrow.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2017, 01:10:20 PM
This morning I decided to build a wall around the large tank. I didn't think I had enough room or that it would look appropriate.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130021.jpeg)


I spent a few hours working on it anyway. And, I was correct, it looked like #^&%*&^&*T.

I started by making a RTV(rubber mold) of some FSM stone walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130036.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
I then mixed some resin and poured the resin into the RTV. After 15 minutes I removed the walls. They were still soft and I cut then at a height of three blocks high.

I then placed them around the area where I had room for the walls.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130052.jpeg)

Here is what the walls look like around the large tank, like crap. There just isn't enough room to do it properly and look decent.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130108.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130108.jpeg)


More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2017, 01:20:40 PM
Okay, it was a few hours wasted but now I know.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130439.jpeg)

I looks better without the retaining wall around the tank. Sorry OSHA, but this is my railroad. ???

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg)

I definitely need a Diet Pepsi break after that rat #$%$%&^^!

Back after fortification.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 01, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
On a happier note, I finally finished the chain link fence including all the barbed wire. I didn't realize I had almost 9 1:1 feet of the fencing.

I'll start the scenery and then plant the fence in the next few days.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130417.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130417.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on November 01, 2017, 03:20:26 PM
Stuff happens.....event with the best of planning.  :)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 01, 2017, 03:44:13 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jimmillho on November 01, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?

Jim
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: deemery on November 01, 2017, 08:32:58 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?

Jim
That's an excellent idea!  Could use air-hardening clay for the "concrete".


dave
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on November 01, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".


STUFF happens....
(http://brijux.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/carl-sagan.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Janbouli on November 02, 2017, 04:30:48 AM
Stuff happens? , and here's me thinking Forest Gump stepped into s..t  ;)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: rpdylan on November 02, 2017, 06:22:16 AM
Tom,
     What about some chain link fence with a gate just around the stair entrance? It could butt up against the tank.....a little square of fencing...... It could satisfy the "safety issue" and provide for a cool little detail-- being as your fence work is outstanding!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: tct855 on November 02, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
Tom,
         One can always tell a good modeler from a great modeler by the level of Deference one receives in questions presented by the viewer.  Nice job all around Thomas. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     KP-out...
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:46:03 PM
Stuff happens.....event with the best of planning.  :)


Greg,

Yes, it does and most assuredly it will.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:46:59 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".


Ditto Curt!

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:48:22 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?

Jim


Hmm, you may be on to something here Jimbo! More on this alter this afternoon or later on the thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?

Jim
That's an excellent idea!  Could use air-hardening clay for the "concrete".


dave


Dave,

Jimbo got me thinking on this like you did on the barbed wire issue.

Stay tuned.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".


STUFF happens....
(http://brijux.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/carl-sagan.jpg) (http://brijux.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/carl-sagan.jpg)


Yepper, it shur do!

TL 8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
Stuff happens? , and here's me thinking Forest Gump stepped into s..t  ;)


Jan,

I seem to step in my share of "stuff" on this build as well.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Tom,
     What about some chain link fence with a gate just around the stair entrance? It could butt up against the tank.....a little square of fencing...... It could satisfy the "safety issue" and provide for a cool little detail-- being as your fence work is outstanding!


Bob,

I sure like that idea. It would make for an interesting detail. However, the entire complex is enclosed with the chain link fence which sort of satisfies the safety issue.

Thank you for the kind compliment on the fence as well.

This morning I tried something else around the tank. If it doesn't meet my approval, your fence will be next.

Tom ;D

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
Tom,
         One can always tell a good modeler from a great modeler by the level of Deference one receives in questions presented by the viewer.  Nice job all around Thomas. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     KP-out...


Thommy,

Thank you for the kind remark and support. Its good to have friends.  8) 8) 8)


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:06:12 PM
Well, Jimmillho got me thinking about the concrete pad thing. Although it is similar to what I tried to do first.

The idea still appealed to me so I gave it a try.

Here is what I did.

I first drew a line around the outside diameter of the tank. I used the old cardboard from the fence template.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132742.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132742.jpeg)

I have very little clearance between the earth works and the tank. The green marked on the HO scale 10X10 is what I have to play with as far as the area around the tank.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132759.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132759.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:14:40 PM
I found the center of the 6" outside diameter of the tank, "X" marks the spot.

I then used a short piece of scrap strip wood and drilled a hole through the scrap. I placed this hole over the new template at the X and drilled a hole through the scrap into the cardboard. I used an extra fence post and placed it in the hold. The angle on the top of the post prevented it from falling through.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132815.jpeg)

You can see in the photo above I then placed the 10X10 next to the outside line of the tank.

I then drilled a hole just inside the area of the green on the scrap strip wood.

I placed a pen in the second hole  and moved the scrap wood around the circle. This new outside circle is the area I have to play with.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132839.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132839.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:15:02 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132856.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
Before I go any further I need to clean a spot for me to work.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132913.jpeg)

That's better. I have room to move now.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132931.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
I next cut out the circle from the larger piece of cardboard.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132945.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132945.jpeg)

Here I'm just making sure the  inner circle didn't move on me.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133005.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133005.jpeg)

Continued in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
I need to test fit the cardboard template to the layout. But first I need to cut out the area where the Tortoise fits.

I marked the area for the Tortoise and made the cut.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133021.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133037.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:27:34 PM
I cut out the area for the turnout linkage. I made the test fit and so far all is good.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133053.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133053.jpeg)

Here is a new look at the first stage of the new concrete pad.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133109.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:34:46 PM
I took some .030" thick sheet styrene from Evergreen to use as a concrete pad.

I then used the cardboard template to outline the pattern onto the styrene.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133123.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133123.jpeg)

I'll fast forward here and show the pattern is now cut out of the styrene and it fits as it should on the layout where the tank sits.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133136.jpeg)


Diet Pepsi time now.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:43:54 PM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133624.jpeg)


Now I need to build a retaining wall around the outside of the styrene pattern.

I want the wall to be thicker than the .030" styrene. I chose .040" but it turned out to be to stiff for gluing around the circle.

I decided to use .020" styrene and double the thickness. I glued on band of the .020" styrene around the outside. When dry, I added the second outside strip.

The height is the retaining wall is 3 HO scale feet.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133733.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
Here is the new concrete pad and retaining wall.

I'll leave this up for a few days and see if it grows on me. Your opinions are welcome.

For some reason this looks much more realistic than my first attempt at a wall around the tank. Also, I think it looks much like a hot water heater pan. I believe the difference is in the lack of space between the tank and retaining wall.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133804.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133804.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133817.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133817.jpeg)

I could possibly live with this but would like others input.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: GPdemayo on November 02, 2017, 02:54:02 PM
Couldn't you have saved a bit of time and used an upside down Cool Whip lid?  ;D

Joking aside, when you get the dirt and weedy covered berm around it , the concrete painted and grunged up a bit, it will look just right.  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on November 02, 2017, 04:10:18 PM
I think it’s great how you take input ideas and try to make them work.  Like the barbed wire and now this.  I looked up some pictures of containment berms, and yours looks too small to me.  You’re kinda stuck with it so close to the curve.   Perhaps an earth berm with a bit more area to contain the tank contents would work.  I’ll have to look back at the whole scene.


Jeff

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on November 02, 2017, 04:15:52 PM
I think the earthen berm won’t work.  To close to the fence.  If you’re going to berm the other tanks as well, try a similar sized wall around them.  Together they should look ok


Jeff

Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2017, 05:03:40 PM
I think the walls are too thin to look correct. Just an idea, can you move the tortoise a little further back to give you more room? I know it would be a pain to do it.

I am sure even if you keep it as it you will make it look terrific.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
Couldn't you have saved a bit of time and used an upside down Cool Whip lid?  ;D

Joking aside, when you get the dirt and weedy covered berm around it , the concrete painted and grunged up a bit, it will look just right.  8)


Greg,

I'm not going to use this retaining wall. I'm just going to place it on the pad and add some gravel.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 05:27:55 PM
I think the earthen berm won’t work.  To close to the fence.  If you’re going to berm the other tanks as well, try a similar sized wall around them.  Together they should look ok


Jeff


Jeff,

The walls are to close to the fence and the tank. Space is the issue here. I don't have it. I'm just going with a concrete pad with a ring of gravel around the pad.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 05:29:56 PM
I think the walls are too thin to look correct. Just an idea, can you move the tortoise a little further back to give you more room? I know it would be a pain to do it.

I am sure even if you keep it as it you will make it look terrific.


Curt,

Moving the Tortoise won't help as the tank is still large. You are correct in the walls being to thin.

I'm adding the concrete pad and a gravel ring and let it go at that. Too much time has been spent here but I wanted togive it a try in anyway.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 02, 2017, 05:40:37 PM
As I mentioned to the three respondents above, I'm going back to my first idea. I will add the Jim Miller concrete and add a small ring of gravel around the pad.

The problem here is space. Even if the space weren't the issue, I'd need space equal to the volume of the tank. The space needed would be dictated by the height of the wall and the volume of liquid being retained in said space.


Anyway, this has gone way beyond my pay scale and interest.

Jim Miller's concrete pad and Tom's gravel ring will be the end product.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: jerryrbeach on November 02, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
Tom,
I believe that what you are planning will look fine.  I looked back a couple pages at an earlier photo.  There is so much to look at with the building and multiple tanks, with this particular tank located near the rear, the missing berm will only be obvious to those of us who follow your thread.  In other words, everyone, lol!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: LongHornCaddy on November 03, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
Love the hidden Tortoise!  Great thread Tom!
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2017, 03:41:30 PM
Tom,
I believe that what you are planning will look fine.  I looked back a couple pages at an earlier photo.  There is so much to look at with the building and multiple tanks, with this particular tank located near the rear, the missing berm will only be obvious to those of us who follow your thread.  In other words, everyone, lol!


Jerry,

I agree, it will look fine when finished. There is too much to see to worry about the retention barrier.

However, there will come a time when a rivet counter visits and he'll be sure to let me know the retention wall is missing. :o :o


I appreciate the comment.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 03, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
Love the hidden Tortoise!  Great thread Tom!


Leo,

Thank you, much appreciated. The hidden Tortoise was a must. There is a 2X4 support directly under the turnout.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 10:59:12 AM
I've been very busy the past few days working on the fence and some scenery updates.

I'll start with some tree updates around the north of the West Yard. I added a few new palm trees. I'd like to mention the Judge did a great job on getting the trees to look "not plastic". I believe I mentioned in the past the palm trees are Woodland Scenics.

I planted one tall palm in front of Sinners Mill.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104126.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104126.jpeg)

Two palms look much better or as us southerners say, "That's more betta".  ;D


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104142.jpeg)


Back in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
Here are a few more pictures of the addition of palms in certain areas.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104051.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104051.jpeg)

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104159.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 11:13:47 AM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117111220.jpeg)


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117111236.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 11:14:41 AM
(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117111306.jpeg)


I'll have some scenery and fence updates later this afternoon.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: Donato on November 05, 2017, 01:33:39 PM
My palms are sweating....


(http://sweatthroughit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/sweaty-palms-and-feet1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 01:37:59 PM
My palms are sweating....


(http://sweatthroughit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/sweaty-palms-and-feet1.jpg) (http://sweatthroughit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/sweaty-palms-and-feet1.jpg)


Yes, yours are but mine aren't! 8) 8) 8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: BandOGuy on November 05, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
Thought from my experience up in the panhandle that the expression is "mo betta'"  :D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 05, 2017, 01:54:56 PM
The Judge's trees look great.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 02:03:19 PM
While working on and installing the chain link fence, I noticed that my old scenery was really looking old. This is the first section of scenery I did and it is now almost two years old.

It was very basic and I've learned a little since then.

Here is what I'm speaking of. In the next picture you can see the old scenery on the right and the new updated scenery on the left.

(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104236.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104236.jpeg)

More in a few.
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued
Post by: ACL1504 on November 05, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
Thought from my experience up in the panhandle that the expression is "mo betta'"  :D


Chip,

You are correct about the Florida cracker speak. However, my mother is reading this and my degree was in English.

Just saying. By the way Mom passed in 2004 but she would say in her Southern Illinois speech to me, "Say it correctly or it isn't fitting and proper".  ;D ;D ;D




Tom ;D
Title: Re: The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued