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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2017, 04:43:55 PM »
Neat trick Thom.....I'll be watching.  8)







Thanks man!  I hope I can deliver.  Thanx Thom...

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2017, 04:59:02 PM »
Hi all,
           So the frame pilot was filed to remove some remaining flashing, and I took two brass air hoses and made up two air lines and soldered on top & up to the steam chest.  Next I painted the steam chest (less the accent color at this time) and checked and polished the slides.

Next I painted, checked & adjusted the screws on the truck side frames so the pivoting was smooth. I tried to paint the accent color on side, but found I couldn't tape that small without the paint leaking under.  So I used brass colored decals to somewhat follow the original accent highlights.  Oh yeah, here's a pic of the prototype for reference. Thanx Thom...




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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2017, 06:11:25 PM »
Hi all,
            Next I cleaned up the tender frame and added a brass air hose to rear and painted both.


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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2017, 06:14:15 PM »
Next,
          Then I cleaned & painted the tender & painted the tender water valves.

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2017, 06:19:58 PM »
So for reference,
 
             Here are a couple pics which compare before & during cleaning & prepping of the tender.  Note: any scratches or bright spots is the removal of extra solder by the factory.

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2017, 06:28:03 PM »
Then,

            I cleaned & prepped the the superstructure & painted. Note the minimal details (or lack there of) so I made and added a few like the side boiler relief valve and piping on both sides and a small cab apron to help hide the drawbar assembly. As you can see from the shiny or scratch marks, a lot of extra solder blobs removed which was left on the model by the factory.

 

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2017, 06:31:06 PM »
Next,
             I needed to upgrade the removal of the open skew motor in the cab to some kind of backhead and some detailing that might be seen to help with adding some overall detail why helping to keep the cost low.  One note, here is a before pic of the superstructure before I started prepping.  Notice the poor factory paint & wearing paint on the running boards.
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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2017, 07:43:05 AM »
Thom,


Which paint scheme of this engine are you doing, the original, or the museum version?


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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2017, 07:44:58 AM »
Thom,
Looks great!  Thanks for the before and after photos, as well as the thought behind the process.
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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2017, 07:47:14 AM »
Thom,
Looks great!  Thanks for the before and after photos, as well as the thought behind the process.






Thank you Jerry!  I'll try to keep all interested while completing it in our lifetime. Thanx Thom...
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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2017, 07:51:00 AM »
Thom,

I'm just now getting caught up on the thread.

You really did a fantastic job on the wheel pin stripping. It seems to me that hand painting the spokes would have been easier and would have given you more control over where the spray paint fell.

You had to do the counter weights and tire rims by hand any way.

Really a fantastic job all the way around my friend.

Tom ;D
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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2017, 08:09:04 AM »
Thom,


Which paint scheme of this engine are you doing, the original, or the museum version?


Bob


Bob,
          Great question!   When I first was handed the keys to this project I knew somewhat of the history of the engine and the current museum pictures. However what makes your question so interesting is while researching the details on the locomotive for the model.

I went to the internet and start capturing all the pics & articles I could find.  Boy,  I found over the years, there was several engines and even a couple rebuilds of the same engines.  All with different details and accent painting.

So upon closer looking at the two different manufactured models I have for this double project, the customer is really cool.  He's only looking for a overall flavor of the historic.  He simply wanted his take on each engine.

The first (current) model version is following a overall view of the late 1800's take. Here's just one of the pictures I have and from one of the really vague written descriptions of the engine I'm following what the customer told me he has an idea of what he wants it to look like.

The next model's version is going to be similar, but painted a little different.  Of course I have to keep it all at a reasonable cost take off due to the course lack of good detail models. I'll hopefully do this model a positive build.   

Hope this helps!  Thanx Thom...

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2017, 08:23:02 AM »
Thom,

I'm just now getting caught up on the thread.

You really did a fantastic job on the wheel pin stripping. It seems to me that hand painting the spokes would have been easier and would have given you more control over where the spray paint fell.

You had to do the counter weights and tire rims by hand any way.

Really a fantastic job all the way around my friend.

Tom ;D




Tom,
          Thanks for the following along and the nice comments.  You are right, the counter weights are the toughest part.  I first tried painting by hand but the old gold or brass floquil paint wanted to take off and run or wanted to blob up in pyles.  What a pain.

So I did it in reverse and on the counter weights I didn't have Hal makeup counter weight decals (I'm stupid) so I had to paint the black stripe by hand.  I found two problems.  One, for some reason my trimning of tape so small kept bleeding under and painting by hand I found I'm now getting old and my hands are starting to shake with a few hair brush. (results from sniffing solvents so long) ha.

So my days of hand painting highlights are coming to a close I guess.  I've got a couple new ideas I'll try on the next engine so I think I can do better.  For now I'm not going to complain to much because some of these older castings are so damn crude with air holes, pits and poor detail lines in which to actually paint straight.

Another thing to consider when reworking older cheaper models of yesteryear!  Thanx Thom...
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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2017, 12:00:52 PM »
Thom,


Thanks for the clarification of the engine version, from your explanation and the following paragraph describing the owner;


"So upon closer looking at the two different manufactured models I have for this double project, the customer is really cool.  He's only looking for a overall flavor of the historic.  He simply wanted his take on each engine."



Therefore you will not be following a prototype version of the engine, but creating a facsimile of an engine during that time frame. That leaves you a large amount of latitude, you can get really creative. Good luck with the projects I will be following.


Bob

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Re: Mystery Engine build???
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2017, 12:13:53 PM »
Let me try that again!


Thom,


Thanks for the clarification of the engine version, from your explanation and the following paragraph describing the owner;
"So upon closer looking at the two different manufactured models I have for this double project, the customer is really cool. He's only looking for an overall flavor of the historic. He simply wanted his take on each engine."


Therefore you will not be following a prototype version of the engine, but creating a facsimile of an engine during that time frame. That leaves you a large amount of latitude, you can get really creative. Good luck with the projects, I will be following.


Bob


Without the paragraph reference, it was  ,,,  what is he saying.

 

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