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Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« on: October 30, 2017, 09:21:10 PM »
Hi all,
      Thought I'd share a pictorial on some particulars with making a factory painted shelf dust collector upgraded to an operating Dcc layout runner.  Starting with the basic running aspects.  The motor runs smoothly and has less than a half of amp or draw.  The gear boxes and couplings operate correctly as well. 

However the front truck doesn't swing freely and completely when running through a 22"  "S"  curves. So the first order was to determine the frame ladder was preventing the truck a complete swing.

A simple fix of grinding the outer frame rail to the point of clearing the ladder.  Once painted this type of repair is simple and doesn't affect the pilot or operation of the truck or can be seen. Also noticing the lower frame ladders are soldered crooked.

I took the time to make slight paint removal to resistant solder the ladders straight again.   Thanx Thom...
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 09:36:12 PM »
Next,
        Once satisfied with the straight ladders no longer interfering with the truck.  I then focused on why the pilot truck wheels paint was chipping off.  I noticed the when touching ladder the frame became charged with whichever polarity was present on that wheel.

The fix was an easy one.
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 09:41:00 PM »
The next adjustment I needed to make was to raise the coupler pocket to center the coupler for proper operating.  I did this by filing the top of the pocket.  A quick and easy fix without having to use an offset shank coupler which looks wrong.

The rear truck was in perfect condition.  Flat straight and square with the pickups in the proper position.  Thanx Thom...

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 09:51:12 PM »
Once happy with the mechanical operating components of the model itself.  I then focused my attention to the lighting.  First removing the single white bulb and installing four correct color leds for the headlight.

I then added a couple crew members and added a cab light, followed up with leaving the clear white markers for a completed front view.  Finally I finished off the lighting by installing a couple leds to the engine room to help show off the interior engine detailing.  Thanx Thom...

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 09:55:26 PM »
Here are the final completed pics of this quick Dcc upgrade on this PSC factory painted model.  This was a simple and quick project that was completed in two days with paint drying.  The model was weight balanced for 12.2 oz on front truck and 12.1 oz on rear truck.  Model pulls equally rather in forward or reverse.  The pantograph operates, but is not powered. (that's another movie). 

Hope this helps with your next box cab Dcc upgrade. Thanx Thom...

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 03:14:11 AM »
Thom,
 When you ground the brass frame for clearance, you used a Dremel tool ? What type of grinding wheel do you prefer ?
For the headlights and cab interior, what style, type and brand of Led's were installed for this project ?
Tommy
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2017, 08:05:27 AM »
Thom,
 When you ground the brass frame for clearance, you used a Dremel tool ? What type of grinding wheel do you prefer ?
For the headlights and cab interior, what style, type and brand of Led's were installed for this project ?
Tommy




Tommy,
             Thanks for the questions.  I tried to keep this a quick simple rework. First as I found the trouble spots with the frame and trucks I made a tiny scratch with a #11 blade.  Took everything apart and started grinding down the marks with a dremel tool using a medium size cutoff wheel/sanding disk. https://www.dremel.com/en_US

I use a variety of sizes for different reasons.  I chose a thinner disk here to allow for a curved taper which addressed only the interfering portions.

For the lighting, I prefer to use Ngineering products.  For the cab light I like the 2x3 mm Super-Incandescent LED with a resistor which allows for a certain brightness. (I'm forced to light the cab with a higher brightness over a scale brightness to show the interior better in a lighted layout room) which most modelers view their models.

The headlights are also led's from Ngineering products from the same page.  I use the nano orange color which gives the best Milw rd. colored headlights.  I hold the led's in place with Testors clear window maker which I build up as needed to insulate the backing and a series of tiny drops for the front of the lens. (yes one led in the pic is slightly off) (it's has been corrected already).

This is why I always take final pics, to show things I miss while building. (my mind corrects the mistakes and my eyes deceive me all the time), but the photos don't lie! ;D  Hope this helps.  Thanx Thom...

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2017, 08:22:43 AM »
Thommy,

A most excellent remake for the conversion to DCC. Your step by step explanations is spot on to follow.

Beautiful job on the repair.

I'm very impressed my friend.

Tom ;D
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 08:35:20 AM »
Nice job on the boxcab.  The headlight is especially impressive and shows your great attention to detail.


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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 08:46:35 AM »
Great job Tom..... 8)
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2017, 12:48:06 PM »
Tom,




NICEEEE!!
Thanks,
Donato

Biding my time till I can start my layout and build nice stuff like all you folks .... (said with envy). :-)

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 02:15:22 PM »
Quick and easy.(End sarcasm).
Love it!

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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 02:42:49 PM »
Thom...

Great to see some others interested with overhead wire stuff.

I've never seen this prototype so well modeled. 

Thanx
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Re: Upgrading an PSC Milwaukee Rd Electric Box Cab to Dcc
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2017, 03:24:04 PM »
ACL 1504,  Thank you for the kind comments... ow! just hit my head trying to walk through the doorway.  Guess I'd better come down now. ;D 

Jeff, Thank you kind sir for noticing the main detail focus of this model.  :)

Greg, Thank you, glad you found this to be a cool project sir. 8)

Donato, GEEEE!  you use the nicest words.  :) Thank you.

BandOGuy, Glad I had something decent to show you.  Thank you.

Bob, Thank you for the compliment.  I'm just discovering an appreciation for overhead wire engines.  I have almost a dozen I'm working on this year, so I should be well versed by the end.

Thanks all for the kind responses, glad I could capture your attention with a quick upgrade of something not normally seen.  Thanx Thom...

 

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