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Title: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 29, 2017, 12:22:03 PM
Hey all,
 Here is the next scratch build I am going to tackle. The old #11 blade was busy last couple days, as you can see for the majority of the walls are cut out.
I still need a little more B&B for the conveyor shed. The peeling paint effect, I wanted to try something new. I am not sure if I read this someplace, or it just popped into my head. I was standing in Michaels, and I was thinking, "what will paint not stick well to?" WAX was the answer I got. I painted on the  trusty driftwood pickling wash, than a thin coat of clear wax. on top of that goes the Skyline blue. Once this has dried for awhile, I take the euro scratch tool, and lightly scrape off paint here, and there. I than hit it with a grimy black wash, and dry brush ever so lightly with a lighter skyline shade. Excuse the crappy lighting again for the photos. One day I will get it right....
 On a side note, the kit that I have, seems to be missing some castings, I think. If anyone out there has the Tannery on a shelf, and can check to see that there should be three of the standard freight doors as pictured, that would be great. If anyone has two of these in their spares box, I would certainly pay for them, so that I can make the kit complete. Thanks for taking a look...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 29, 2017, 12:25:04 PM
I'm following.  That's a great shade and I really like the weathering.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: deemery on November 29, 2017, 01:44:56 PM
Thankfully even FSM hasn't figured out how to package 'authentic smells' into a tannery kit!!!


Don't forget to earmark a couple of your railroad's worst cars for hide service, possibly the worst cargo a steam era RR could haul.



dave
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: bparrish on November 29, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
Tannery smells.  WOW. Thatís a scratch and sniff that I will pass on. 

How do you scale down smells???

1/87th of bad is still bad !!!

See ya
Bob
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: GPdemayo on November 29, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
Interesting structure Loren.....I'll be looking in.  :)
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 29, 2017, 03:09:44 PM
A few years back I spent a couple hours photographing the castings from all my FSM kits.  Here's what I found in my Tannery box.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/18-291117150723.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 29, 2017, 03:10:40 PM
No smell in my yellow box!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 29, 2017, 03:11:37 PM
Yes, I took closeup pictures if you can't see what you need by zooming this picture.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 29, 2017, 03:13:59 PM
George took this model off the F&SM - it was on the North River. I asked him about it because it's one of my favorites.  He told me that he tried to move it and destroyed it in the process. So much for the prototype.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 29, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
Curt, Good to have you aboard..
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 29, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
Greg,
 Thanks for following along...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 29, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
John,
 Thanks so much for the photo. I will study it, but it does look like what I thought.
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Timbob60 on November 29, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
http://besttrains.com/images_castings_ho_00/lg_4-0181.jpg
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 29, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
Timbob,
 Thanks, that was going to be an option....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Janbouli on November 29, 2017, 04:04:08 PM
Following along , expect another great build.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: MAP on November 29, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
Looking good so far Loren.  I'll be tagging along as well.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on November 30, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
Hi Loren:

Is the photo of the door above the one's you need? If so I may have them. Not sure. BEST trains may also have them.

Karl.

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Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 30, 2017, 08:27:00 AM
Loren


I like the color. Most of the builds I have seen of this kit turn out way too, blue - for my taste. I will be following along.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 30, 2017, 11:21:57 AM
Janbouli, Mark, Karl, and John,
 Great to have you all following along....
Loren....
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 30, 2017, 11:29:09 AM
So, The door casting mystery unfortunately gets worse. In the kit, is a very large double door casting (see Johns photo). This, along with one of the standard freight doors is missing.
 Does anyone know, if George used this in any other kit? I have 40 others sitting around. I checked Wilfred B, but no such luck. It would be just my luck the only door George did as a one off, would be this.
 Hopefully John has a close up shot of this, as I can try to build from scratch, and mold for the kit. I really do not want to purchase another kit for just a door casting.....Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated....

Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on November 30, 2017, 01:44:13 PM
Loren


Will this shot work for you?  If not let me know and I will pull the box off the shelf and take one straight on.


(http://modelersforum.com/gallery/18-301117133911.jpeg)


When I took these pictures I was worried about the door and window castings because I usually use them in the kit.  I took the pictures to help decide which detail castings might get used somewhere else on my layout.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 30, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
John,
 Thanks...does not get much better than that.
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on November 30, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
I thought I had a match from Rollin Sawyer, which is close.
 If anyone out there possibly has this casting in their spares box for some reason, please contact me.
It looks like George only used this one for this kit. I pulled some of the other kits from around this time frame, but nothing.
The search will continue.......
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: MAP on November 30, 2017, 04:08:46 PM
Have you contacted George directly?  He may have one in his "spare box" of parts.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on November 30, 2017, 05:39:05 PM
Loren:

Post A photo of exactly what you need and I will check my doors.

Thanks Karl
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 01, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
Mark,
 I did not contact George. I have met him once, and I am not one to be a bother to someone....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 01, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
Karl,
 The photo that John S (S&S RR) posted is the missing one.
Thanks
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 01, 2017, 11:45:15 AM
So here I am back, licking my wounds from the Tannery debacle. Kind of like finding out Santa's not real. And before any of you jokers out there, who are over 50 come back with a reply of surprise......The Easter bunny does not exist either.....
Thanks to all who have offered their assistance with the matter....

I decided to do a step by step for the process I use for making the freight doors.
1) First is the 1/64 birch base.
2) Than the back planks are glued down. 2x4
3) I add the outer front boards. 1x4, and 1x6
4) The inner cross pieces are added. 1x4
5) finally the rest of details added. 1x2, and handles and such.

the last photo is of a completed, and weathered door...
Thanks for taking a look...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: rpdylan on December 01, 2017, 12:31:35 PM
Loren,
    You are def. the King of Doors! Thanks for the short little photo tutorial--- "Castings?.... You don't need no stinking castings!" ha ha!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Wow Loren, incredible job on the doors.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 01, 2017, 03:12:29 PM
Bob C, and Curt,
Thanks for the compliments....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Janbouli on December 01, 2017, 03:46:28 PM
(https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/73/84/70/240_F_73847026_g0okbxy95pn1lnznOTWkvBOvHfV2lBIH.jpg)
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 02, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Janbouli,
 Thanks for the compliment.
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: MAP on December 03, 2017, 06:34:06 AM
Great job on the door Loren!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Cuse on December 03, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Coming along beautifully Loren. Those door details are amazing!


John
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fbernard65 on December 03, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
Great job on scratchbuilding the doors.

Frank
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on December 03, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Loren


Those are some mighty fine looking doors.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on December 04, 2017, 07:51:04 AM
Hey Loren:

Those doors look just beautiful. They look better than the castings.

Karl
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 04, 2017, 08:49:17 AM
Mark, John M, Frank, John S, and Karl,
Thanks all for the compliments....Sadly, I am going to be off my game for a little bit. A slip of the X-acto knife sent me to the ER yesterday, for some stitches. A little hard to model with out that extra thumb. I am going to be doing limited stuff....be back soon....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on December 04, 2017, 09:53:51 AM
Mark, John M, Frank, John S, and Karl,
Thanks all for the compliments....Sadly, I am going to be off my game for a little bit. A slip of the X-acto knife sent me to the ER yesterday, for some stitches. A little hard to model with out that extra thumb. I am going to be doing limited stuff....be back soon....
Loren...


Loren


Sorry about your mishap - I hope it heals fast.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 04, 2017, 11:40:59 AM
John,
 Thanks so much....9 days until stitches can come out....

Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on December 04, 2017, 12:16:55 PM
Hi Loren:

Sorry to hear about this mishap. I know what you mean I've slipped many times. Just been very lucky so far.  Get Well Soon and back to modeling.

Karl
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 04, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
Karl,
 Thanks. This one I could not put a band aid on. Knew that the second I realized what had just happened...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 06, 2017, 06:15:48 PM
Howdy All,
 For the most part the walls had been finished prior to my accident. I did a little to finish them up. I also had the small supply shed pretty much done. The molds I made copies of for the stone walls on the bottom of the building. Not sure if I am going to use resin, or try hydrocal for these. And of course the last picture shows what you get, when you are not careful with a sharp object.
You can see the offending object just below....Thanks for taking a look....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on December 06, 2017, 07:21:19 PM
Ouch!  I have a leather glove at the workbench for this reason.   :)   Nice work so far on the structure. 


Jeff
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on December 06, 2017, 07:51:14 PM
Ouch!  I have a leather glove at the workbench for this reason.   :)   Nice work so far on the structure. 


Jeff


Double Ouch!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 06, 2017, 08:02:41 PM
Jeff, John,
 Thanks, and ouch was the word...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 07, 2017, 10:03:35 AM
Very nice work Loren. I have cut myself pretty good with the exacto knife before but nothing like that. I hope it heals quickly.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 07, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
Curt,
 Thanks for the compliment, and it is on the mend already...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: MAP on December 09, 2017, 05:55:45 PM
Yikes!  That cut sure looks like it meant business on your thumb!  Great progress Loren on the build.   Hope you're back in action soon.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2017, 06:05:55 PM
Loren,

I bet you didn't feel anything until after the cut was complete. Yea, right, OUCH!

I have a #11 cut on the pad of my right thumb. I carry it with pride.

Welcome to the #11 Club.

Tom  8)
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Raymo on December 09, 2017, 08:13:54 PM
Been there, Done that! 3 stiches in my right thumb. I feel (or felt) your pain!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: jimmillho on December 09, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
I have a #11 scar on the thumb and nail of my right hand.

OH, Well......the curse of building models 8) 8) 8)

Jim
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 10, 2017, 12:07:31 PM
Mark,
 Thanks for the compliment, working my way back into action slowly.

Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 10, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
Tom, Raymo, Jim,
 The #11 club is sure a shitty club to be in. I am hoping to never renew my membership......
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: Raymo on December 10, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Tom, Raymo, Jim,
 The #11 club is sure a shitty club to be in. I am hoping to never renew my membership......
Loren...
Maybe Jimmy can  make us some T-Shirts!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: MAP on December 10, 2017, 02:40:53 PM
I belong to the club as well, however it wasn't my hand.  I was cutting some material and was getting a bit over enthusiastic and slipped off the table and plunged the #11 blade into my thigh.  Man that ##!!%&&!!!  Luckily a Band-Aid stopped the bleeding....my pants weren't as lucky.  Dan, I think you're right...Jimmy needs to make up some t-shirts for us!
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: deemery on December 10, 2017, 03:28:03 PM
...  Dan, I think you're right...Jimmy needs to make up some t-shirts for us!
I feel a challenge coming along!   Design the logo for the "#11 Club" t-shirt!


dave
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on December 10, 2017, 05:35:54 PM
Hi Loren:

I scratch built the small blue building you are working on some years ago. I can post a photo if you like. Hope that thumb heals up quickly.


Karl
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 10, 2017, 07:55:31 PM
Karl,
 Your work is always welcomed to be posted on my thread...and thank you she's healing slowly...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 10, 2017, 07:57:40 PM
The #11 Club shirts would be great. cut yourself post a pic, and you can purchase a t-shirt. Or, maybe just the purchase part would work better....
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 11, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
Hey All,
 Just a couple quick pics today. I managed to get the stone walls cast, and for the most part painted. I used a base coat of concrete, than with a sponge, did spotting of various shades of gray, browns, that had been thinned.  Finished up with ink wash on the crevices, and on top. Lastly, gave a dry brush of bleached sand. Thanks for taking a look...
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: deemery on December 11, 2017, 12:49:54 PM
The #11 Club shirts would be great. cut yourself post a pic, and you can purchase a t-shirt. Or, maybe just the purchase part would work better....
Would this be limited to knife cuts?  I have a nice scar on my palm where I tried to drill a 1/4" hole in my hand.


dave
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: postalkarl on December 11, 2017, 12:58:29 PM
Hi Loren:

here are the photos of the small blue building you gave me permission to post. I believe I built theses from photos of the F&sm RR as I never owned this kit. Hope you like em.

karl
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 11, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
Karl,
 As always, fantastic work....thanks for sharing those pics....
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 11, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
so here is a real quick and dirty #11 club logo
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on December 11, 2017, 02:34:01 PM
Hey All,
 Just a couple quick pics today. I managed to get the stone walls cast, and for the most part painted. I used a base coat of concrete, than with a sponge, did spotting of various shades of gray, browns, that had been thinned.  Finished up with ink wash on the crevices, and on top. Lastly, gave a dry brush of bleached sand. Thanks for taking a look...
Loren...


Very nice work - love the stone walls.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: S&S RR on December 11, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
Send Jimmy D. your logo and I'll bet we can get some shirts made. That picture of your hand would work well for the back of the shirt.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 11, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
John,
 Thanks for the compliment on the walls..
Loren...
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 11, 2017, 06:59:41 PM
Beautiful stonework Loren.
Title: Re: The Tannery
Post by: fsmcollector67 on December 12, 2017, 12:26:04 PM
Curt,
 Thanks for the compliment...
Loren...
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