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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2016, 08:27:44 AM »
Great work Bob.....I really like the little trolley cars.  8)
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2016, 10:03:44 AM »
The Kapton tape used for insulating decoders might also help protect the bottom of the circuit boards.
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2016, 10:30:07 AM »
Here are two photos of a little cutie ! ! !  Can modelers say that word ? ? ?

I've never been quite sure who manufactured these but they turn up on ebay from time to time.  My trolley modeler friend in town always calls unknown products from Japan as being made by the J.A. Pan company.  I always find that funny.

It is only about 2 and 3/4 inches long and is only two wheel drive.  I did get a decoder into it but the weight had to go on the bottom.

It can't jerk the fuzz off of a peanut but it is fun when I roll it out during an ops session.

It is the only trolley with the original motor.  I couldn't get anything else in there.

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What is that underneath there Bob? it looks like a crystal out of an old radio.


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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2016, 11:32:49 AM »
Slim........

That sir is a wheel weight.  I get the take off weights from tire shops every fall. I usually try to remind modelers on this forum to do this when people are changing over to winter tires.  Those on the forum in Florida don't think of such things.

They are used once and then sent to recycling.  Because of polished and coated mag wheels they don't use spring steel clips to hold them on.  They use a double sided foam substance and it doesn't work a second time.

So what you are seeing is a 1/4 ounce lead weight.  There was no space inside that little trolley.

Thanx for looking in.
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2016, 11:35:26 AM »
James...

That is a great idea, using the tape stuff.  I use 30" scale wheels so there isn't much space but that otta work.

I'm most of the way done on a Labelle D&GW doodle bug that will have a Stanton Drive in it.  I'll check it out.

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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2016, 12:06:39 PM »
 I built two of these work flats about eight years ago. I found a picture of a crane flat in a Chicago Surface Lines book years before and just sort of mentally filed it away.  I was in a conversation with my trolley cohort and he whipped two old lead, round end, flat car castings.  I have no idea who made them but they were old an heavy.

Having grown up in Chicago in the last days of trolleys.... I'm a lay down for these things.

The crane is scratched from junk in the drawer and the tapered base post is a brass turning with a .003" sheet brass wrap with rivet detail pressed in from the back side.

The side boards turned up when needed for hauling paving bricks or sand.  The hinges on the model work.

It is powered by a single Tenshodo spud as it seldom pulls anything but its own heavy self.

There was to be a popular judging at a seasonal meet some years ago so I made two exactly alike, less the blow torch on the barrel. I only had one.  I gave one to Bruce and we entered them for judging just to confound the modeler / judges.





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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2016, 05:39:58 PM »
So this work flat is completely scratch built but not all by me.

It started with only a styrene super structure that was given to me out of a batch in a junk box.  It was clear that it had been built with some sort of trolley prototype.  I've never found it but I can't say that I looked too hard either.

The deck is all sheet brass and the railings are supported by 1/16" square tube.  I put a wood deck down with Goo and it is powered by two Tenshodo WB 26 spuds.

The whole thing was so light that the only way I could get some weight into it was the clutter on the decks. They are all pewter castings that actually added up to quite a bit of weight.  It pulls really well.

The under floor box has a removable cover and all of the DCC electronics are in there.







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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2016, 06:25:54 PM »
Bob,

Those are really neat trolleys and work flats. Great job on all. Wonderful stuff.

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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2016, 08:00:42 PM »
Bob


Very nice work. They look great.
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2016, 10:16:27 AM »
Bob, I'm admiring your work because I've been interested in trolleys since I can remember; my first 'train rides' were on Boston's MTA and I found the overhead wire and complex trackwork fascinating.  I've seen excellent trolley modeling in various places, but never tried any myself; I substitute working on preserved cars at Seashore in Arundel, ME. Next month I'll take their motorman training course and sign up for some operating days there and at Lowell, MA.
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2016, 02:34:40 AM »
Bob,
 Always enjoy seeing trolleys. The traction models always have a lot of character too ! Will follow along for the ride.  8)
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Re: Trolley Projects
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2016, 03:01:52 PM »
So I have been whacking away at this Labelle interurban combine for some time and with the drive unit mostly done I needed to get serious about this.

Below are the rough finished superstructure.  Waiting for grab irons and de-fuzzing.







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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2016, 09:03:51 PM »
Now that's gonna be one nice looking Trolley...

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Biding my time till I can start my layout and build nice stuff like all you folks .... (said with envy). :-)

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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2016, 06:15:15 PM »
So I have two projects going at once.  One is the above Sacramento car from Labelle and the other is a "back off of the shelf" after 3 years Labelle D&RG gas motor.

I set it aside some years ago as I was on a anti-rejection drug after the transplant and it gave me the permanent coffee jitters.  The doctor said I would get over it when I came off of the drug.  Well she was right.  I took up the Falk project for a time as it was G scale and I could work with that.  See elsewhere on the forum for that one.

The gas motor will never pull anything else so I am using a single Stanton Drive from NWSL.  These are great little drive units and when two are used on a locomotive they can jerk stumps !

Well maybe scale stumps......

These drives come in a number of wheel base dimensions and mount to most anything.

The drives come without side frames so they need to be grafted on in some fashion.  Below are photos of a saddle device I concocted from .015" brass. The truck frames are from and ancient American Beauty kit that is long gone but the trucks.  I needed to cut out the center bolster and then mount the side frames. 








The drive is built on a PC board and is a really cool design.  NOTE: the M1 and M2 pins need to be covered to prevent the DCC signal from the rail getting to the wrong side of the decoder.



This is another Stanton drive that I made up some years ago for a Pacific Electric steeple cab.  It had really weird truck frames.  I built this for judging so it had a lot of brake rigging on it.  I suspended the frame sides from the factory mounting screws for the PC board.

I'll put up photos of the steeple cab next.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2016, 06:29:50 PM »
So with other projects going, I'll put up some photos of a scratch built from about four years ago.  This thing was so butt ugly I had to build it ! ! !

This is a model of the Pacific Electric 51 freight motor.  There were several modifications done to this with the most extensive in 1943.  I modeled the original 1906 as it fits with the years of my railroad, 1898 to 1913.

It is built of brass shapes and .040" sheet brass for the super structure. One end is loaded with lead weights and the electronics are in the other.  There is no space in the cab as it has a full interior.  There is a square tube supporting the ceiling of the interior where five wires go to the roof for external lighting and the cab light.  The externals run from DCC controls for dimming and which might be forward.

The power trucks are from NWSL and have a particular frame structure built around them from the prototype.  The photo in the previous section shows the bottom.







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