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Title: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 18, 2015, 07:17:35 PM
Alright, my next build will be the HO Scale Kit by SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek. Since this is one of Brett's earlier kits, it requires the 24 hour process of staining the wood. Part of Brett's Secret Recipe for the Stain includes using Polly Scale Railroad Tie Brown Paint. Since that's no longer made and I don't have any, I replaced it with an India Ink with a shade of color called Sepia. It has that same shade of dark brown to it. I slide one of those Woodland Scenic shaker bottles that contains ground foam in it under one side of each pan so they are tilted allowing for all of the wood to be submerged.  While I was emptying the box, I came across a nice little surprise...a"Bonus Shop Car" inside. I'm not sure if only some or all of the kits included this car. I scanned thru Brett's online Photo Album for this Shop Car Kit but I couldn't find a completed picture of it. If anyone has one that they can share, would you please post it to this thread?

Thanks!
Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: MAP on July 19, 2015, 06:23:32 AM
Nice looking kit Alan.  I'll be following along.
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 21, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
Thanks Mark.

Alright, the prep work has been completed. I wanted to show you a few things before I move on.

In the first picture, I primed all the resin castings following the process Karl A (UKGUY) demonstrates in the Craftsman Kit University off the Sierrawest Scale Models Home Page. This is also taught in their workshops that Brett and Karl put on. They recommend priming all the RESIN castings with a light coat of Spray Paint. The metal items such as Oil Drums in Black and all the wood items such as boxes, crates and wooden barrels in Tan. I show the 2 spray cans that I used which were purchased at Home Depot. I used either paint stirring sticks or strips of card board and applied doubled sided tape which allowed me to stand up all the castings for the priming process.

In the second picture, I blacked all the metal castings with Jax Pewter Black Solution. I found that if you buy it thru the company's website, they want to charge you $25 to ship this item (Dangerous Chemical)...but if you buy it thru Amazon, it only costs $5 to ship it. With that said, I used the brush shown to spread the solution over each of the metal castings. I then went back immediately with the tooth brush to work the solution into the tiny crevices. After letting each piece sit for a few minutes, I threw them all in a cup of water for 20 minutes to wash off the solution. I learned the hard way from a previous kit that you don't want to apply paint straight to these metal castings.

In the third picture, the instructions call for Poly Scale Roof Brown for the Metal Roof and Box Car Red for the tarpaper. I of course have neither of these colors since they are no longer produced...kinda sad. Anyways, I went over to Home Depot and found almost exact matches for both of these colors which I show in this picture.

In the last picture, all of the wood as been colored using Brett's "Patent Pending" staining process. Up near the top of the picture, you'll see the water tower casting which I sprayed with a light tan paint from Home Depot. For the most Famous Part of the kit, the Front Stone Wall, I followed Brett's instructions and painted it with Grime colored paint and then thinned it out with Dio-Sol. Since its a base coat, I'm sure its not going to matter that it doesn't look so great right now.

Next up, the building of the 1st wall....

Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: postalkarl on July 22, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
Hi Alan:

Looks like you're off to a good start.

Karl
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: S&S RR on July 22, 2015, 08:54:53 PM
Looks like a great build - I will be following along.
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 22, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
Thanks Mark and John. I'll start the walls this weekend.

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 25, 2015, 09:48:54 PM
Started building the main walls today. To weather the boards, I use the following methods:

- Use a wire brush to add texture
- I have a beading tool (has the same tip on it as a compass but with a nice foam handle) to add holes and indentations to the boards.
- I take a razor blade at a 90 degree angle and make a small chopping motion to add that "rough cut look" to parts of the boards.
- An Exacto knife is used to remove portions of the boards.
- On some of the holes I take a toothpick - dip it in glue - jam it in the hole and them clip off on both sides with a flush cutting toenail clipper to create a knothole.

After all of the weathering techniques are done to the boards...which I learned from Brett at Sierrawest, I wash over the boards with Indian ink to make the details pop.

The last step before adding the boards, I take a brown piece of paper and pinch my fingers together. I got the brown paper I'm using from shipping material that was used in a box that was sent to me...but you can also use a paper bag from the grocery store. I then run each board thru my fingers 3 times and them I flip the board over and re-run it thru again another 3 times to remove all the "fuzzies".

I was able to finish 2 of the 3 main walls today. You will see in the last picture that the walls will sometimes warp from the glue. The next step is the press the walls between two boards with bricks on top to flatten them out. I will usually press the walls for 2-3 days...periodically taking them out of the press to work on them such as adding windows before returning them to the press.

That's all for now!
Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: Vilius on July 25, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
Alan,

That is a lot of work but surely worth it.

Vilius
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 26, 2015, 12:51:08 AM
Hey Vilius,

   Havent heard from you in a while. Hope all is well. I was going to see if you had plans on attending the Narrow Gauge Covention?

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on July 26, 2015, 07:40:55 AM
Nice looking walls, Alan.  I'll have to try the brown bag trick for the fuzzies.


Jeff
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 26, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
Thanks Jeff.

Just finished up the 3 main walls...minus the weathering. The walls are really beginning to warp and will now go into the homemade press for the next 2-3 days to straighten out. Next up is the weathering on the main stone wall and the creation of the Diorama Base.

Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 28, 2015, 09:13:23 AM
Weathered the Stone Wall last night. I used 2 different shades of Brown, Grime and Concrete like the instructions stated plus I used Stone Gray, Rain Gray and Stormy Gray (Dark Gray) to color the stones. Once you add the chalks, it covered the areas I didn't stay within the lines when painting the stones.

Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: UP Fan on July 28, 2015, 11:29:39 PM
Nice job on the wall Alan.  Are you planning on hitting it with some Dullcote to take the shine off?  Maybe it's just the way it photographed (flash unit?).
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: Vilius on July 29, 2015, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: nextceo on July 26, 2015, 12:51:08 AM
Hey Vilius,

   Havent heard from you in a while. Hope all is well. I was going to see if you had plans on attending the Narrow Gauge Covention?

Alan

Alan,

I was considering couple of months ago but not very seriously though. Then our closing date got moved by two weeks, I had unexpected expenses, and I used up extra three days of vacation. I guess that sums it up. I am definitely not going this year. I am hoping to be able to go next year. I have always been wanting to visit Maine. Maybe I will make a little mini vacation out of it.

Vilius
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 29, 2015, 09:17:26 AM
Bob, yep...I use Dull coat on it eventually...I'm still trying to decide if I like the stones that were painted in Earth first...I may rework those stones.

Vilius, yeah..we use to vacation to Maine every year. If you like seafood and awesome scenery, that's the place to go. The drive getting there/back is really only the bad part about going there...

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: postalkarl on July 31, 2015, 07:39:05 AM
Hi Nextceo:

Like you walls. Colors and weathering look great. Keep the pics coming.

Karl
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on July 31, 2015, 09:13:11 AM
Thanks Karl. I appreciate your feedback...

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: ollevon on July 31, 2015, 09:47:49 AM
Hey Alan,  Awesome job on the stone work, wouldn't expect anything less from you.
  Sam
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on August 02, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
Thanks Sam!

I hit my first speed bump when building this kit yesterday. After constructing the 3 Wood Walls and weathering the Stone Wall to the Main Building, I glued down the floor template to the Diorama Base I constructed out of Foam and Gatorboard. When I placed the 4 walls onto the template, I realized that the Main Stone Wall was shorter than the guides. (In the first picture I attached, you can see how the stone wall doesn't extend the length of the wall guides) This caused the two side walls to stick out above the Front Stone Wall. I then placed a ruler across the 2 peaks, opened up the compass app on my iPhone and turned my iPhone on its side activating the level. This app showed the building was 1 degree lower at the front of the building. I contacted Brett at Sierrawest...who gives awesome customer service...got back to me the same day. When I explained the situation to him, he believes the Resin Casting probably "shrank" seeing its about 15 years old. To correct this issue, I placed a piece of strip wood under the stone casting..raising it up and bringing the majority of the building back into alignment.

In the second picture, you will see I added a 2 1/2 inch drop off to the left side of the diorama. The plan is to add some stone/brick walls and a culvert to add some additional interest. The castings were ordered from CC Crow.

http://www.cccrow.com/main-pages/scratch-list.html

That's all for now...
Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on August 02, 2015, 10:43:52 PM
Next step is building the addition on to the back of the Machine Shop. I'm currently in the process of weathering the boards and adding knot holes. As shown before, I drill a hole with a pin vice and then insert a tooth pick. After the glue dries, I clip off both ends with a flat edged nail clipper..aka a Toe Nail Clipper. I then use chalk and or a black wash to draw out the knot holes.

Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: postalkarl on August 06, 2015, 11:08:46 AM
Hi Next:

They look really nice assembled. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on August 16, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
Finished the walls and doors to the back machine shop. I'm now in the process of laying the floor.

That is all...
Alan

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Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: coors2u on August 16, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
Looking good Alan!
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on August 16, 2015, 10:01:50 PM
Hey Dustin,

  Thanks Dude...you almost done with the Mine?

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on August 17, 2015, 07:59:25 AM
The finish on the wood looks great.  Why are the boards in the center of the floor set perpendicular to the rest?  Does heavy equipment sit on this section? 

Jeff
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: GPdemayo on August 17, 2015, 08:49:33 AM
Really shaping up Alan.  8)
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: nextceo on August 18, 2015, 03:06:51 PM
Thanks Gregory and Jeff for the comments. Good observation Jeff on the heavy equipmemt comment. Thats actually the part of the floor where the track enters the building.

Alan
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: NEMMRRC on August 22, 2015, 07:31:32 AM
Nice build thus far. I'm looking forward to more updates.


I do,wonder about replacing the out-of-production paints with equal substitutes. I'm sure it's not a huge deal but it does make one wonder.


Jaime
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: deemery on August 22, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
Tru-Color line is expanding, and there's a good chance you'll get a reasonably close match for Floquil colors with one of theirs.  I wish the Tru-Color people would produce an accurate paint chip chart, though.  Printing PDF (on an un-calibrated printer) is no substitute.  (I was discussing this today with one of the dealers at the Greenberg show in Chantilly.)


The Tru-Color Erie Gray-Green TCP-164 is, to my eyes, a Very Close match to holy Driftwood Floquil stain.

dave
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: bparrish on August 22, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Dave...

Why don't you buy one each of everything they make and build us all a color chart 

They are great paints and will.. In my opinion, become the next generation floquil.

I see floquil as a 21st century version is studebaker in 1965 and systematicly trying to put themselves out of business.

See ya
Bob
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: deemery on August 22, 2015, 09:58:58 PM
"worthy successor to Floquil" is how I described them.   They have way too many colors for me to be able to afford to buy them all and create a chart.  The guys who developed this came from the printing industry, it would be great if they came up with a high fidelity color chart.  I don't mean to be too critical, it's a great product that we're lucky to have (particularly given the grown environmental/safety restrictions "known to the State of California")

One way they do not match Floquil is they're pre-thinned for airbrush, so they don't brush-paint very well.  Floquil brushed well out of the bottle, but had to be thinned for airbrushing. 

dave
Title: Re: SierraWest Scale Models - The Machine Shop at Deer Creek
Post by: bparrish on August 22, 2015, 10:04:53 PM
Dave ...

My experience with them is to call them and place your order.  Tell them what you are doing. They will make up for air brush or brushing anything you want.  Unlike floquil. They want to be in business and will accommodate most anything.

I painted my Falk loco with their grimmy black.  Great color.

See ya
Bob.