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Title: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 01, 2015, 05:58:02 PM
Yesterday I started a build that will be going on my layout immediately ( I hope ), Saulenas Tavern, I think we have seen it in larger scales a few times here or on the old forum, so just a short impression of my build in N-scale.

The small plastic box this kit comes in.
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The contents of that box.
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The 2 colours I chose for Saulenas , Tamiya J.A. Grey and Vallejo Duck Egg Green, the Vallejo Air paint is also very good to use with a brush on wood. The windows , doors and ornaments in Tamiya JA Grey.
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Bracing for the main walls .
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The painted walls , the Duck Egg Green gets darker after a few hours of drying.
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Corner posts and the walls , clearly darker now the right after painting.
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Windows and doors assembled. They are peel and stick, something every N-scale door and window should be.
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Started assembly of the walls , the base consists of 3 layers , stuck together and painted Badger Concrete, a more greyish concrete then that I used on the Somerville coal bin.
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Easy curtains using masking tape.
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The 4 main walls assembled.
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This is actually a fun build , so much fun that I went back to the train room several times today whenever I thought the glue or paint had dried enough to go on.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: S&S RR on December 01, 2015, 07:54:11 PM
Looks like a nice project - I will be following along.  It is good to see someone else using the Vallejo paints.  I have been using them for about 6 months now and had real good luck with them.  In fact I just ordered a bunch of new colors to add to the clutter on my workbench.

Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: deemery on December 01, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
I'm also a big fan of Vallejo, plus the relatively new artist Golden Fluid Acrylic line:  http://www.goldenpaints.com/products/colors/fluid 


dave
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: jbvb on December 01, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
If you'd like, I can post a photo of my HO Saulena's, showing how I changed the roof contours to make them (IMO) more realistic for an area where snow lasts more than a few days.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: cuse on December 02, 2015, 07:14:27 AM
I've always loved that kit, but never had the right neighborhood for it, in either scale. Off to a great start!  :)


Reminds me also how much I appreciated Bar Mills for sticking with fantastic, but not fantastically difficult kits and their commitment to N scale.


John
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: ACL1504 on December 02, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Jan,

Great start and of course I'll be following along. I like the color combo you chose. I've been using the Golden
fluid paints for about two years now.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: martin.ojaste on December 02, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
I am enamoured by the colours. Looking good.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on December 02, 2015, 08:49:00 AM
That Duck Egg Green is a great color for a structure.  I gotta get me some.   :)

Jeff
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 02, 2015, 07:52:51 PM
Thank you all, I don't think this will be a long build though , although there are castings to be done , and maybe some lighting.

Quote from: jbvb on December 01, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
If you'd like, I can post a photo of my HO Saulena's, showing how I changed the roof contours to make them (IMO) more realistic for an area where snow lasts more than a few days.

Would love to see it, does snow stay on roofs in Kansas, no matter still love to see it.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: cuse on December 02, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Seen some amazing versions all over the web. Some with peaked roofs, etc...very dramatic, cool stuff.


John
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: ReadingBob on December 03, 2015, 07:46:34 AM
Neat kit and great color choices.  I really need to expand my pallet when it comes to the paints (brands) and colors I use.  Very useful information.  Thanks for sharing.  I'm going to enjoy following along.   :D 
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 03, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
Hi Jan:

I've built this kit more than once. Once in HO And Once in O-Scale for my Dr's O-scale RR. It's A Great kit. Looks like you are off to a great start. Will be watching as usual.

Also check out the new Bar Mills Bail bonds kit. It is a modified version of this kit and pretty cool.

Karl
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: jbvb on December 03, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Following practices I discovered while riding the old Forest Hills elevated line in Boston, MA, I put filler blocks in behind the cornices.  I also carried the roofing material up over the curb along the other edges of the roof.  It isn't very visible where the building is placed on the layout, and it doesn't look as pretty as it could with the light behind it, alas.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 03, 2015, 05:11:09 PM
Glad to have you along Karl .

James that looks really good , great idea, mmmmm, wonder if I can create something like that with my own twist.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 03, 2015, 05:14:40 PM

Peel and stick parts for the front windows and door.
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Lovely printed glass for the front windows.
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Installed windows and doors . One of the reasons this kit is great fun , is that everything fits very well.
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Some black paper in case I want to light the building.
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The  overhanging room installed.
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Just a photo with a penlite to show how huge this structure is  ;)
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Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 03, 2015, 07:53:52 PM
Hi Jan:

Looks great so far. Keep the photos coming.

Karl
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 10, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
Side view, I see that I have some trimming to do.
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Different angles of the building after placing some trimming and the signs.
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This is when I was confronted with the stairs , this did not go well, it's just too small and maybe I just lost my patience for a second after an hour of trying to get the steps on the stairs.
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Well anyway this is how it looked after that moment of despair.
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I then tried this solution , but I don't like it.
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So now I will try the covered stairs.
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Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: deemery on December 10, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
Your tenants will appreciate those stairs in the winter!


dave
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 14, 2015, 07:36:59 AM
Hi Jan:

Interesting colors. I like them. Nice job so far.

Karl.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: ACL1504 on December 14, 2015, 08:12:37 AM
Jan,

I think the enclosed stairs will look good and add a little different look to Saulenas. Looking good.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: ollevon on December 14, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
Great job Jan,The colors you chose are awesome and the workmanship is spot on. I love it.
  Sam
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 14, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
Hi Jan:

What colors are they and what brand paint?

Karl
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 14, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
Hi Jan:

Nevermind I found the colors you used on the first page. I should have known better.

Ksarl
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: donatode on December 14, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 14, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
Hi Jan:

Nevermind I found the colors you used on the first page. I should have known better.

Ksarl


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Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 14, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
Thanks Sam and Karl.

Karl your color use has actually been an inspiration for this build to me , I love your use of different greens in most of your buildings. So I looked through all my paints to find exactly the greens I wanted, the Duck Egg I really like , it will be hard to not use that too often.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: martin.ojaste on December 14, 2015, 10:13:15 PM
Jan,


I feel your pain, build these ridiculous small staircases are a real pain. I found that epoxying the top and bottom ones fist, let them dry and then do the others helped me greatly. I used to build stairs for a living and we never built any that were more that 14-16 rises. There was always a landing in the middle for such long runs. For the modeller it makes it easier to build and attach to the structure.


I suppose you saw from the photos that the top/side edge of the windows and signs had bare spots. Also, will the roof edge have fascias to hide the cracks?
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 14, 2015, 10:29:34 PM
Quote from: martin.ojaste on December 14, 2015, 10:13:15 PM
Jan,


I feel your pain, build these ridiculous small staircases are a real pain. I found that epoxying the top and bottom ones fist, let them dry and then do the others helped me greatly. I used to build stairs for a living and we never built any that were more that 14-16 rises. There was always a landing in the middle for such long runs. For the modeller it makes it easier to build and attach to the structure.


I suppose you saw from the photos that the top/side edge of the windows and signs had bare spots. Also, will the roof edge have fascias to hide the cracks?

Yes I saw the bare  spots and the cracks, only in the photo's though . The cracks I can paint , a facia wouldn't help much more. The bare spots , well , I can't see them with my bare eyes  ;) , remember the photo magnifies about  4-5 times. Those stairs are a little more then 1 mm in depth and about 1 mm apart in height too, that just doesn't work for me, the covered stairs do though.

At times like this I do wonder if I chose for the right scale, I love building a layout with long runs and more then a few towns, but I also love building structures and that's a lot nicer in HO or larger.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 15, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
Some photo's of the finished building, touched up some spots that were visible on camera and added some details to the roof.

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Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on December 15, 2015, 06:44:33 PM
Nice.  I like the covered walkway better than the exposed stairs.

Jeff
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 15, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
Thanks Jeff, I am glad I ruined the stairs.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on December 16, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
Hi Jan:

Ditto on what jeff said. Building looks great.

Karl
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on December 16, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
Thanks Karl , I think it needs some more details like posters on the walls and things like that.
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: donatode on December 16, 2015, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 16, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
Thanks Karl , I think it needs some more details like posters on the walls and things like that.


Don't forget some vagrants on the sidewalk. ;)
Title: Re: Saulenas in N-scale
Post by: deemery on December 17, 2015, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Donato on December 16, 2015, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 16, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
Thanks Karl , I think it needs some more details like posters on the walls and things like that.


Don't forget some vagrants on the sidewalk. ;)
Plenty of vagrants in this group to choose from :-) ;-)


dave