Hi All:
Will be starting Swakhammer's Welding shortly. I need an opinion on which stone wall coloring you like the best.
1) Larger Top wall. Base coat is Rust-Oleum gray primer. A Few stones painted with Floquil earth. Dark A&I wash. Dry-Brushed on the left with white and light gray on the right.
2) Smaller bottom wall. Base coat is Sherwin-Williams copy of Floquil Concrete. Its a very very close match. Dark A&I Wash. Dry-Brushed on the left with white and Light gray on the right.
Let me know which you like the best.
I think #2 looks better. I think the darker shade give it a more complex and natural look. The wall itself may contribute also. #1 seems to have more wide stone spacing and crevices. The A&I seems a little too concentrated in places because of this.
I think #2 looks better. The darker shades give more depth and a more complex and natural look. Also, it looks to me that casting #1 has wider crevices and stone spacing. The A&I provides a little more outlining and less blending than on casting #2. Nonetheless, I wish mine looked as good as these.
Roy
I would have to agree on the second one.
I really like the second one also. I have this kit sitting on my bench, the box weighs a ton! I think I may start this come the winter.... I will be watching your build with great interest- any tips you share are greatly appreciated!!!!
Bob
Hi Bob:
Thanks. Left or right side. I like the left with the whit dry-brushing.
Karl
Karl
This is one of my favorite FSM kits. I'm looking forward to watching the build. I like the lower "darker" casting better. You asked. The light dry brushing really makes things pop. If you want to try a new technique, I have been having good luck with using chalks and pigments to dry brush the color on after the base paint (including the light grey dry brushing at the end). If you want take a look at how they have been turning out take a look at the builds on my S&S RR thread. And give me a call if you have questions. The thing I like most about the chalks and pigments is the texture. It looks like stone and dirt. I have also been adding some green for moss and really like the results. The real cool thing about working with the chalks and pigments, is that if you don't like it, just take a brush or rag with alcohol and whip it off and try again. Just my 2 cents if you want to try it - what you are doing looks great.
Hi John:
Thanks for the post. Sent you an E-Mail.
Thanks:
Karl
Quote from: postalkarl on June 12, 2016, 07:08:09 PM
Hi Bob:
Thanks. Left or right side. I like the left with the whit dry-brushing.
Karl
Count me in for this option.
Hi Karl,
I totally agree with everyone else that number 2 looks far better than your first one.
I use the Rembrandt pastels and alcohol on wood, except for my recent reconstruction project, but have never used them on stone work.
Hi Karl-
On the bottom casting, I like the right side better.... however, I am not sure if the the white color on the left side is looking harsher because of the photograph, or it looks more subdued in real life...
bob
Quote from: sdrees on June 12, 2016, 09:53:35 PM
Hi Karl,
I totally agree with everyone else that number 2 looks far better than your first one.
I use the Rembrandt pastels and alcohol on wood, except for my recent reconstruction project, but have never used them on stone work.
Ditto.
In past, I,ve paint several stone wall with Rembrandt pastel and Alcohol (see my wrisley paper project), and be very satisfied by the finbal result.
Eric Québec city
Karl,
I like the lower left. The dry brushing really achieves it's intended effect of simulating light...I like it very "greyed out", but that version does a good job of suggesting a variety of colors without looking patchwork.
Can't wait to watch the build.
John
Hio Everyone:
Can't believe the great response from this. Just talked With George Sellios and he also likes the bottom one with the white dry-brushing. He likes it the way it is. But I'm going to check with John S. on the pastell thing.
Also if any one has a copy of Dec. 1990 MR. Would love to get a copy of the color add. Let me know if anyone can get it to me. OK. Scanned in copy would be great.
Thanks for everyones help.
Karl
Karl,
The bottom left looks better. However, had you started with lighter colors bottom right probably would have won for me.
Vilius
Hi vilius:
Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
Karl
Lower left. I'll have to look when I get home to see if I have the ad for this.
Jeff
Hi Jeff:
Thanks for your input. Could really use a color copy of the add.
Thanks:
Karl
Sorry, Karl, I don't have that one. :( But I found a pic here. http://fsmkits.homestead.com/files/swakhammersWelding_265.jpg
Jeff
Hi Jeff:
Don't know where you found it but its just what I need. You are the man.
Thanks Karl
Sweet Karl!
Bottom left would be my choice for sure.
Hi Bobby:
Thanks for the input.
Karl
Karl, have you tried applying pigment or weathering powders over stonework? I've gotten pretty good results doing that, it adds some subtle color variations you don't get with paint.
Both walls look good to me, depending on the kind of stone you are trying to model. But the bottom wall looks a bit more 'dramatic'.
dave
Hi Dave:
Thanks for the input. John S. suggested powders. Haven't tried it yet. For this particular kit I think I'm gonna go with the bottom wall left side with white dry-brushing. John sent me pic with pastels on stone. It looks pretty nice. It looks really cool if you wanted to mimic red stone. For this kit I want to go with the gray but will probably go with the powders in the future.
Karl
After I've painted (but before any final white/light drybrushing), I've taken a stiff brush, dipped it into a chalk/pigment, and stippled it on the rocks. Try some relatively bright/unusual colors, particularly blue or yellow. If you don't like it, just hit it with a wet brush or sponge and wipe off the powders. Then seal with a flat finish.
dave
Hi Dave:
I will give That a try sometime.
Karl.
Hi All:
Walls are primed with the Sherwin Williams Concrete, Windows are sprayed with Krylon red prime and the doors are painted with Tamiya Dark Yellow A perfect match for Depot Buff.
Karl
Hi guys:
Opps forgot to post how the stone walls will be assembled.
Karl
Karl, I've also used that pigments/chalks technique to add additional color to slate roofs.
dave
Hi John S. & Dave:
Here's a wall I messed around with pastels on. How does it look. As I said I think it make great red stone.
Karl
Quote from: postalkarl on June 15, 2016, 02:40:44 AM
Hi John S. & Dave:
Here's a wall I messed around with pastels on. How does it look. As I said I think it make great red stone.
Karl
Looks good! Now try a bit of an experiment for me: Take a little bit of that red pastel and dab it onto the rocks on the right. The idea is to get little bits of red mixed in with the greys. See if you like how that comes out.
dave
Quote from: postalkarl on June 15, 2016, 02:40:44 AM
Hi John S. & Dave:
Here's a wall I messed around with pastels on. How does it look. As I said I think it make great red stone.
Karl
Karl
I like it - just depends on the look you like. They have gray pastels that will give you the same color as you have on the left. I just like the texture better. To my eyes it looks more like natural stone in any color. When I dry brush stones or clapboard siding now I'm using the pastels or chalks. Same procedure that I used with paint. I should mention the I prefer the pastel chalks (I scrap a pile of dust onto the workbench) when I dry brush - no alcohol. The light color will blend in more with the color of the stone. I have been using the Pan Pastels for the base coats of color.
Again, don't take any of this as criticism - the wall you did looks great. I just found a process that I like better and I may be full of s***. Or my eyes are going. Or both. For me it was a new process I tried a few years ago and I like it enough to still be using it today.
Hi John:
Thanks for the input. I will probably try this somewhere along the line. But this one need to be per the instructions.
Karl
Hi All:
Walls, windows and doors are painted & assembled. Here's a few photos. Hope you like them.
Karl
Karl
It looks great.
Karl, what did you use to "glue" the walls together? Epoxy?
Hi John S., Eric & Bob:
Hi guys thanks for the compliments. Bob, I used 5 minute epoxy.
Karl
That's one impressive looking masonry structure Karl. 8)
HI Greg:
Thanks for the compliment. Much apprecaited as always.
Karl
Karl,
Nice looking start on that big heavy yellow box kit. 8) Sold mine several years ago to a friend who was looking for one ... :'( Will watch your Scakhammers come together and looks you are off to another great looking model build. ;)
Tommy
Karl,
I'm a little late getting started on this one. Looking very good my friend. OH boy, another build for the Shultz files.
Tom ;D
Hi Tom:
Thanks for the compliment. Much appreciated.
Karl
Hi Guys:
Working on roof and roof shed. As can be seen in the color photo kit ad there is a lot of rust on this roof. Tried to emulate that. Hope it look OK.
Karl
Karl,
Coming out great!!!
Frank
Hi Frank:
thanks for the compliment. Much appreciated.
Karl
Hi Karl,
I have been following your build. It is a great looking kit and you are certainly doing it justice. What is your glazing technique. I have tried at least three, single sheet of acetate behind the window, individual pieces of acetate in each pane, and krystal kleer. In my opinion their are pluses and minuses to each.
Looking forward to your next update
David
Hi David:
I use Gallery Glass Window color #16081 Clear. I've used most of what you have described above and some other stuff to. So far I like this stuff the best.
Thanks for your input and compliment. Much appreciated.
Karl
Hi All:
Got the roofs done and the cupola and the roof shed. Hope it looks ok.
Karl
Beautiful. I sound like a broken record, but your color choices on your builds are always great!
John
Hi John:
Thanks for the compliment. Here's another progress photo the fron roof is done.
Karl
Karl
Very nicely done.
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Hi John S. & Donato:
thanks appreciate your compliments.
Karl
HI All:
Finished up the stone building last night by adding the two smoke stacks. here's a photo.
Karl
Hi Guys:
started working on the main building liast night. Got a fair amount done. Walls painted, windows & doors painted and glass installed, foundation painted and installed.
Karl
Hi All:
Putting this aside for a bit as I have some other work to do for a few days.
Karl
Hi Guys:
finished my other work and I'm back to this one. Here's a progress photo. Building 2 is started. Paint is Depot Buff and Zinc Chromate.
Karl
O.K. now!!! Now you're just showing off.......!!!!
so please continue to do so..... as I am loving what you're showing.
Quote from: postalkarl on June 22, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
Hi Guys:
finished my other work and I'm back to this one. Here's a progress photo. Building 2 is started. Paint is Depot Buff and Zinc Chromate.
Karl
Karl
You sure know how to make the best use of your Saturdays! Once again, looking great.
Hi John S.
Thanks appreciate it.
Karl
Hi All:
made a little progress. 1 1/2 of the rood is shingled and the roof shed walls are assembled.
Karl
What a fantastic build Karl! I am amazed at how fast you work. Swakhammer's is sitting on my bench but I've got some projects ahead of it. I appreciate your postings as I will refer to them when I start my build!
bob
Hi Bob:
Thanks for the compliment. Much appreciated.
Karl
Karl,
Just now read through this thread for the 1st time, very impressive work. I've seen more of your work on here and the RR-Line forum. Your color selections always come out looking great.
This may be heresy here, but I am not a big fan of most of the FSM kits. I do, however, think George is a fantastic engineer in how he desighns the kits, and a brilliant artist.
My impression is that you are right up there with him.
Jim F
Hi Jim:
Thanks for the compliment. Very much appreciated.
George and I are very good friends. We talk almost every day. We have been talking and I have visited the F&SM many times and its always a treat. Going this year for the 2nd time in July. George has taught me most of what I know about model building including colors, what combinations and how to use them. I still ask questions. You can always learn something new.
Anyway as I said thanks for you compliments and comments.
Karl
Hi All:
Have been doing a little work. Assemble the walls for building C on the left end. Now I have to shingle all the roofs and add lots of rafter tails and details.
Karl
Looking good Karl. This is one of my favorite structures. I was torn between this and Cartwrights Machine Shop for my layout.
Hi Steve:
Thanks for the compliment. Much appreciated.
Karl
Hi All:
Here's a few progress photo of Swakhammers.
Karl
Karl,
Looking really good!!!!
Frank
Hi Frank:
Thanks appreciate your comment.
Karl
Hi All:
Stone Building and Building B Are finished. Not glued down yet but are about in the right place on the base. I may glue them down shortly.
Here's a few photos.
Karl
Karl,
Looking really good!!!
Frank
Looking very cool ;)
Would anyone else pay to see Karl and George Sellios in a race to see who could build a kit the fastest? ;D :D ;) :)
dave
Hi Dave:
I'd put my money on George.
Karl
Hi Frank B:
Thanks for the compliment.
Karl
Hi Polux:
Thanks for the compliment much appreciated.
Karl
Hi Guys:
The side building is finished and glued to the main building. Roof and roof detail are next. then I can glue the structures to the base.
Karl
karl,
Been watching the thread. Not impressed with your work... at all! I've seen better model out of a lionel plasticville kit, than what you do on those stupid fine scary minimums kits. Only got 3 things to say on your painting, gluing and wood working skills. CRAP CRAP CRAP!
"Things one most likely will never see written about Karl on any forum unless it's to get his heart pumpin'. ha. Great work buddy! I'll see you next week at George's. Thanx Thom...
Karl,
What colors did you choose for the wood structures?
Hi Thom:
Only you buddy. Glad you like it.
Karl
Hi Bobby:
Colors Lets see Walls are Krylon Camouflage Sand (Looks like Floquil Depot Buff), Windows are Krylon Red Oxide Ultra flat primer (Looks Like Floquil Zinc Chromate primer). Campbell shingle roofs are unpainted with A&I stain and dry-brushed with Apple Barrel #20526 Country Gray craft paint. Tar is done with Apple Barrel #21490 Pavement. Model Master SAC Bomber Green on the canopy roofs. Floquil Polyscale Rust for weathering.
Hop that helped.
Karl
Great info on the paints, Karl.
dave
Hi Dave:
Glad to be of help.
Karl
This is coming along nicely, karl! I like it so far ;)
Karl
When you get a chance can you post the dimensions of the main buildings. I think I know where mine is going on the layout but I may have a space problem. Thanks!
Hi Polux:
Thanks for the compliment.
Karl
Hi John S.
Will try to post dimensions tomorrow OK.
Thanks:
karl
Quote from: postalkarl on July 08, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
Hi John S.
Will try to post dimensions tomorrow OK.
Thanks:
karl
Okay - Sounds Good - Thanks
Hi John S:
The center main building is 6 Inches from front to rear. the 3 buildings assembled are about 14 inches long. So just for the space of the buildings you need about 6 X 14 Inches the Diorama base is 12 1/2" X 18"
Hope this helps.
Karl
HI All:
Almost ready to glue the structures to the base. Roofs are almost done. 1 more casting to add. Platform is done. Need to finish its canopy supports and roof with Swakhammer's sign.
Karl
Karl,
Its coming along very nicely. Very well done. Looks great!
Tom ;D
Karl,
Not sure if it is just the pics but the rust is a bit glaring. You might want to tone it done a bit if it is truly that bright.
Frank
Hi Frank:
I'll tone it down with a little dry-brushing. finished platform, stairs and roof with sign.
Karl
Great job as always Karl!
Quote from: postalkarl on July 09, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
Hi John S:
The center main building is 6 Inches from front to rear. the 3 buildings assembled are about 14 inches long. So just for the space of the buildings you need about 6 X 14 Inches the Diorama base is 12 1/2" X 18"
Hope this helps.
Karl
Karl
Thanks - yes it does help.
Magnificent job Karl!!
That's a real nice building ;)
Karl
This build is really looking great. As always, I'm enjoying watching your progress.
Hi Pollux & John S:
thanks for the compliments.
Buildings are glued to the base and platform has been added between the main and stone building. Here's a photo.
Karl
Looking great Karl as usual, your subtle colors and weathering are fantastic.
Hi jan:
Thanks Appreciate the compliment.
Karl
Stunning work!!!
Love the weathering (amongst everything else)
Hi Steve:
Thanks for your compliment. It is much appreciated.
Karl
Hi Frank:
Thanks. I never claimed to be the brightest bulb in the shed. Got a little more done today. Installed front platform. On to detail castings. Frank Let me know I posted this photo in the Sewell's Foundry thread.
Karl
Wow.Karl. Fantastic! There's a lot of textures and stuff going on in this kit. Very cool!
John
Smooth work Karl ;)
Karl, I am having a stamp made up that says....
"WoW Karl GREAT, BEAUTIFUL work as usual"
.....that way I don't have to type it in EVERY time I see your work ....!!!
Hi John:
Thanks apprciate your compliment.
Thanks:
Karl
Hi Pollux:
Thanks your compliments Are always welcome.
Karl
Hi Donato:
sounds good to me. Now that's a real compliment. Thanks much.
Karl
Hi Guys:
finished up about 2 days worth of work painting, Staining with A&I dry-brushing about 40 castings And installing castings.
Here's a photo.
karl
I'm with Donato, I am getting tired of saying how excellent Karls work is, but then I can't lie
Magnificent work Karl.
You nailed it ;)
Hey andy:
Thanks appreciate the compliment.
Karl
Hi Pollux:
Thanks appreciate the compliment.
Karl
Hi All:
Didn't get much done today. Leaving in the morning for Peabody, Ma for an F&SM open house.
Karl
Quote from: postalkarl on July 14, 2016, 09:38:13 PM
Hi All:
Didn't get much done today. Leaving in the morning for Peabody, Ma for an F&SM open house.
Karl
Tell George we said HI!
Geez, wish I knew it was F&SM open house weekend. We'll be in MA/NH next weekend.
dave
Hi Dave:
Yeah the open house was great as usual. Went with a friend that has never seen the F&SM. he really enjoyed it.
Karl
Hi All:
here's a progress photo. track is laid scenery is in and most of front platform is finished. Scenery is a little dark as it is still wet.
Karl
That really looks great Karl. This is such a "busy" structure. All of the details like piping, overhead crane, etc combined with the typical FSM variety of materials make it something I could study for hours. You're doing a fantastic job with it, as always.
John
Karl, I love your use of the subtle colours and weathering. It makes the structure really standout. Excellent work.
Marty
Hi John & Marty:
Thanks for the really great compliments. Much appreciated.
Karl
Hi guys:
this one is going on the shelf for a bit as I have 2 FOS Scale kits to built. Starting with Burdick's Freight dock and then Methias Metal background kit.
Karl
Hi All:
Back to Swakhammer's tomorrow.
Karl
Hi Guys:
The outer platform with its shed and details are finished. Will now add it to the diorama and then on to the crane and finishing up.
Karl
If you want to add another detail, consider little white shipping labels on the cargo.
dave
Hi Dave:
I can probably do that. Think I have some around.
Thanks:
Karl
Hi guys:
Front platform is installed as is the swivel crane on the main building.
Karl
Looking good Karl. One of my favorite kits.
Hi John:
Thanks for the compliment. Much Appreciated.
Karl.
Hi All:
As per Dave's suggestion I added shipping labels to crates on the platform. They were already on the ones on the main platform. They come with the kit. Guess I just forgot to add them. Thanks Dave.
Karl
Those labels add a surprising batch of color. I thought freight on the platform without labels looked "flat" and "unprototypical".
dave
Hi Dave:
What can I say but you were right.
Karl
Hi All:
Will be working on the traveling crane today.
Karl