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Title: F&SM Trolley
Post by: restocarp on November 14, 2016, 08:46:09 AM
All,

At one time there was a static, non-operational trolley on the F&SM. If I remember correctly, it was located on a bridge that terminated onto the aisle. I believe that it was later removed from the layout. I seem to remember some photos and discussion of this detail in a magazine (MRR?) but I can't seem to find it. I may be "mis-remembering" the whole thing, but if anyone has any information about where these photos may be located please let me know.

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: tct855 on November 14, 2016, 10:02:42 AM
Matt,
            I don't remember an article in MRR that talked about the trolley scene. Perhaps another magazine.  I do remember a couple internet articles or threads on the subject here:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24581  and here:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25174   Hope these help!  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: restocarp on November 14, 2016, 10:09:44 AM
Thank you, Thom. Perhaps I remember a thread from somewhere online. I remember a closeup photo, but those from Richard are very helpful.

Matt
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: jbvb on November 17, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
That could be a Bowser (?Penn Line?) cast metal body, but there may have been other models of similar cars.
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: bparrish on November 18, 2016, 03:28:34 AM
Gents...

It depends on how old it is.  All of those dies go back to the Pennsylvania Models trolleys in about 1948.  It was later taken over by Bill Bowser and in the 1950's.  More recently, ca. 1961 the name was taken over by the Lewis English family who have kept the Bowser name and has been renovated the line into what shows on the web today. They were cast zinc and had a vertical motor truck at the time of take over.  Bowser later converted the drive to a more traditional drive with a gear head in the truck and the motor in the body with an Athearn like U joint type of drive.

It appears for the moment that Bowser's current owner/operators have taken all of the trolley products off line on their web site.

Sad day for trolley modelers

see ya
Bob
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: restocarp on November 18, 2016, 08:05:05 AM
All,

Thank you for your time on this.

I picked up a Bachmann non-operable Brill trolley similar to the one on the F&SM from ebay. I intend on detailing it as a static Baltimore Street car model for my Rowhouse project. (http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/walthers-row-house-kitbash-build-challenge-2016/  (http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/walthers-row-house-kitbash-build-challenge-2016/)) I would like to get a decent look at the detailing, of both the car and the catenary, that George did on his model for some ideas for mine. I hope to avoid the slippery slope of actual trolley modeling.  :o

Matt
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: S&S RR on November 18, 2016, 09:13:23 AM
I have a few pictures of the trolley car in the F&SM thread on page 24.


http://modelersforum.com/the-official-fsm-layout-thread!/the-franklin-south-manchester-railroad-it's-all-about-the-details!/
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: ACL1504 on November 18, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
Matt,

Will this picture help?

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181116105207.bmp) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181116105207.bmp)
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: restocarp on November 18, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
Tom,

That is very close to the image that I am remembering and yes it helps a great deal.

Thanks to you and all that have responded.

Matt
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: bparrish on November 18, 2016, 06:02:38 PM
Matt...

Why are you resistant to trolley stuff........... 

I and another gent here in downtown Idaho are largely trolley in our home layouts.  It's a lot of fun and the pole and wire clutter offer an unusual overall look.

And don't forget that you can always turn one into a diner.


see ya
Bob

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-280314120939.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-280314120939.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310314113333.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310314113333.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260414145217.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260414145217.jpeg)
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: bparrish on November 18, 2016, 06:03:40 PM
Another downtown Boise shot when the FSM hopper was here in town.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-010816174744-15082392.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-010816174744-15082392.jpeg)
Title: Re: F&SM Trolley
Post by: restocarp on November 18, 2016, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: bparrish on November 18, 2016, 06:02:38 PM
Why are you resistant to trolley stuff........... 
Oh, I'm not resistant to trolleys. I'm resistant to new hobbies and more collections. :D

Matt