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Title: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 13, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
Good Morning Modelers,

I am nearing the point on the harbor/wharf area of my layout where I can begin the creation of water. Most all structures, piers, docks, platforms, retaining walls, and landscape around it are about ready to go.  I have one specific footprint atop of a seawall of rocks that is dedicated to the addition of a lighthouse.  I thought that would have been one of my first structures I would have done, but as per the mold of a model railroader, I began the harbor and a thousand other ideas for it took over and I began working on those, neglecting a lighthouse and thinking I would sooner or later get to it.  Well later is here...lol.  I think my hesitation was finding a lighthouse in a kit that looks quality and has some unique charm in the style of coastal Maryland or New England.   Have scoured the internet and have come across some but they were either cheesy and cheap looking or they were craftsman kits (which is what I am looking for) that were so expensive that I'd have to refinance my home.  OR if I found one I did like, it was out of production by the manufacturer.

Any ideas on available kits that any of you are aware of?  I have even considered scratch building one, however my expertise on lighthouse architecture is zippo...

Todd
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rslaserkits on April 13, 2017, 11:04:13 AM
You might check out the Mispllion Lighthouse. I did the HO design for Groovy Jeff but he then sold the design to I think Seaport model works. For the N and O scale versions I do them and have in stock.
rich
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 13, 2017, 11:35:21 AM
very cool Rich!  I do like this design!  I checked out Seaport Model Works just now and this could be an option!  I should have posted that I am modeling HO Scale...lol.  I had in mind all this time prior of a separate lighthouse from the lighthouse keeper structure, and the lighthouse being the standard rounded version, but this is definitely a different and unique concept!  Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on April 13, 2017, 12:42:31 PM
I wanted a lighthouse on a small outcrop of land for my layout- kinda like the way it is on the FSM. I bought this cheap kit for about $15 at Springfield. I sprayed it with primer, covered with Liquitex stucco, then painted it white and used some chalk powders on it. It actually came out really well. I plan on putting a slow strobe "lighthouse" LED that I saw from Microlumina.....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 14, 2017, 08:58:18 AM
YES!  that is what I am looking for Bob! Or at least what I had in mind and it fits an East Coast/Maryland design lighthouse to a T.  I love what you have done with it, adding the stucco and weathering.  I will have to look for this model somewhere!  Bingo!  Thank you very much!

Todd W.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Timbob60 on April 14, 2017, 10:41:51 AM
Here is a link to an eBay seller who has some......

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/122438949100?rmvSB=true

And the US eBay link......same seller

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-City-Hobbies-Maritime-Lighthouse-HO-Gauge-BCH-International-8519-/122438949100?hash=item1c81ee18ec:g:rMkAAOSwLnBX7or3

Geo2rge aka timbob60
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: restocarp on April 14, 2017, 11:04:38 AM
Best produced a model of the Thomas Point Light:
http://www.besttrains.com/products_1017.html (http://www.besttrains.com/products_1017.html)
It is very Maryland and very cool, but kinda expensive.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I always admired the lighthouse that Dave Frary made out of scotch tape rolls. There is a photo in his Model Railroad Structures book.

Matt
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: RailroadKits on April 14, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
The Crow River (or was it CC Crow?) lighthouse on the Pennsy...

(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flayouttour.com%2Fphotos%2Fvar%2Fresizes%2FJimmy-Deignans-Pennsy-Middle-Division%2Fholden%2520trains_9.JPG%3F&hash=6cfc10a7d87617ffd55961fd82ef41fa04106ae5)

JD
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Timbob60 on April 14, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
CC Crow's lighthouse is out of stock.

Geo2rge aka timbob60
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on April 15, 2017, 06:03:20 AM
couple more pics to show what I did with this--- the lighthouse comes molded in red, and looks God-awful out of the box.  I like using a quality primer paint, so I used the Camo spray paint to cover the red and put a surface tooth on the plastic.  I applied Liquitex stucco, (going back over it again after it dried to make the covering as even as I could). After the stucco dried, I lightly sanded the stucco to smooth it down a bit and know off any high spots.  Then I painted it white. black and rust pan pastels applied after. The top railings were primed, painted with grimy black (the paint from Micro-Mark, which I like)- then rust powders applied.  The windows were painted a dark green.  The clear part at the top has these molded raised lines in it- I masked these lines on either side with some tape and applied paint to represent the framing between the glass panels.  I need to put another coat of that paint on and some more weathering with powders-- this thing is sitting on a shelf waiting for its home on the layout.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 15, 2017, 11:58:53 PM
Bob, this is fantastic!  Thank you very much for your photos and the details of how you finished and painted it!  Friday night I did order the lighthouse off Ebay from the suggestion and link provided by TimBob60.  It has shipped already and supposedly should be here by Monday.  So today I went out and bought the liquitex stucco, and I am going to put your idea to work!  I also have the camo primer and grimy black.
  I will post photos here as it goes.  I do appreciate everyones help here on the modelers forum.  You all are great! 

Todd
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on April 16, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
As crazy as it sounds, I really think that the secret to weathering/ finishing models is pastel chalks.  I think I put the stucco on in a couple of coats,,, hitting the spots that were a bit bare the second time.  I also found that hitting the surface with some sandpaper after the stuff dries really improves the look by knocking down the high spots and evening out the coating.  I found that the rust colored chalks really made the thing look real,,,,,start out light with the chalks, using a soft brush, and weather until it looks good to you.  I kid you not that when you open the box, the kit looks like a junky toy,,,,,I also painted the inside wall of the lighthouse body with black paint,,,,,

Looking forward to seeing your results!
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 25, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Bob, My lighthouse arrived last week and you were not kidding, it looks like the old McDonald style toys you got with a kids burger.  However the details molded into it are pretty decent.  I plan to jump into it tonight as I have the Liquitex stucco you mentioned.  A new experience for me as I have yet to work with their products.  The rail on the overhang is missing a section at one point about 1/2 inch and looks like it was just an error mold, but that is easily fixable with some craft wire......I will let you know how it goes and post photos here as it progresses!

Thanks again, Todd
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on April 25, 2017, 03:07:50 PM
Told you Todd!  The thing is so toy like out of the box! .....
    I primed the plastic with some Camouflage paint--- It puts some tooth on the plastic for the stucco to adhere to.  It took a couple of coats to get a uniform application all around the structure.  After the stucco dried I lightly sanded it to knock off the "high points" and I found that it really helped get the finish that I liked. I then painted it white.....
     I think you will be surprised at how it comes out- I know I was pleasantly surprised. Look forward to seeing your photos!
BTW, for the cat-walk grating and railings, I painted the plastic with grimey black, then after the paint dried, I brushed on some rust colored pan pastel--- its a nice effect. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Dave K. on April 26, 2017, 06:50:53 AM
Looks like you're headed in the right direction with the tips you've gotten so far. Looking forward to following along. 👍🏻 Bob, that came out beautifully!
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on April 28, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
Last night I put the first coat of Liquitex Ceramic Stucco onto the lighthouse outside wall after I primed it with the cammo khaki.  Dummy me first tried to put it on with paint knives and that didn't work to well and looked like a three year old had fingerpainted with cream of wheat.  So after washing it all off in the sink, I switched to the sponge brush applicator which spread it on fairly even and I began to see how this all woks.  There are some high spots and some sloppiness around the windows and doors but nothing I can't tidy up very easily and make nice around the edges.  After the second coat I will lightly sand high spots and the rest until I get the desired effect before painting.....As per Bob's direction, Thank you again Sir!

Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on April 29, 2017, 12:40:38 AM
looks a lot different than the red plastic, huh?  ha ha!  I should have said before, I "stippled" the stucco on with a paint brush.... I do think that you will find sanding it down really enhances the look of the stucco layer.  I did paint the stucco with craft paint "white wash" color then applied some powders: black, rust, a bit of brown on the bottom...
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on May 05, 2017, 09:22:27 AM
Hey Bob!  and those following...
Well it has been a week since my last post.  Busy week at work and no time to log on.  However, I did finish the lighthouse and had a lot of fun doing so!  The stucco isn't too hard to work with once you get the hang of it (and after removing and reapplying a few times..lol) I wanted to keep some of the stucco look on mine so I only took a light pass over it with sanding.  I weathered it with a bit of extra rust where I thought rain, salt and other seaside elements would do the most obvious damage..  I would like to put a little more rust on the cylinder bulk head up top.  I tried to stay with the color scheme Bob went with, and I'm satisfied with the end result.  Now I am going to scratch build a station house to go with it and decided on the West Quoddy Head lighthouse station in Maine. The lighthouse itself is entirely different than west quoddy but I love the design, so that will be a project for the scratchbuilding section of the forum in the very immediate future! 

Bob, thank you Sir for your suggestions, instructions and willingness to share in this hobby!  much appreciated and you helped to make our harbor complete!

Todd
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on May 05, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
on a side note, the one top rail is all ganked up because when I unpackaged the kit, it was damaged and separated from the supports in two places with a half inch gap between it, the rail was also bent in two sections.  I tried to straighten it but this plastic does not reshape well, so I figured it best not to screw it up worse and make it look like part of damage from time and use.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Slim Jerkins on May 05, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Looking good!


If you (or anyone else) need a lighthouse flasher simulator and LED send me a PM. I have a bunch of them I ordered for someone's project that never came to be.


-slim
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Mkrailway on May 05, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
Todd, looking great. Go for the lighthouse flasher, it is amazing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on May 05, 2017, 03:17:46 PM
Thanks guys!  Yes I left the top of the lighthouse un-glued if you will, for the ability to add a flashing unit and light to it.  Just didnt know where and what type light to add to it.  The company that makes this kit is no longer in business..lol.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: rpdylan on May 05, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Came out great Todd!  Its gonna look cool on your payout- post photos when you "plant" it!
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: oldbloodhound on May 06, 2017, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: Todd W. on May 05, 2017, 03:17:46 PM
Yes I left the top of the lighthouse un-glued if you will, for the ability to add a flashing unit and light to it.  Just didnt know where and what type light to add to it.

Nice work.
The light kit that Slim sells above is a good choice.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Timbob60 on May 06, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
If anyone is looking for a fast, easy way to "plant" their lighthouse, here's a link to a precast hydrocal "stone" base from builders in scale/cc crow.

http://www.builders-in-scale.com/bis/spcl-parts.html

Geo2rge aka timbob60
Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: Todd W. on June 08, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
Bob and everyone that gave me ideas, again thank you for helping with your suggestions for the lighthouse and putting my mind on the path to also creating a station house to go along with it.  I scratch-built this version of the West Quoddy Head Lighthouse Station located in Maine by researching photos of it during the 1930s and 40s, when it wasn't run by park services and all brand new pristine painted with vinyl siding, since I am modeling WWII Americana Era. So the paint is lightly peeling in places but even then it was fairly well maintained.  Regardless, it wasn't meant to be a prototype and in many ways it is not, but I am satisfied with it enough to give our layout's harbor a little jazz.  I had fun with the entire thing from the stucco of the lighthouse to the chimneys of the stationhouse.  In the photos you will undoubtedly notice the two dormer windows shades are put on the bottom and not the top of the windows.  (one of those things I didn't catch until after I took photos) that has since been corrected.  Again Thanks, this forum is filled with some of the most helpful and friendly modelers anyone will find.


Title: Re: Suggestions for a lighthouse kit?
Post by: GPdemayo on June 08, 2017, 08:52:34 AM
Great looking lighthouse & station Todd, well done..... 8)
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Post by: Zephyrus52246 on June 08, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
Really nice work, Todd.


Jeff
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Post by: S&S RR on June 08, 2017, 03:10:17 PM
Very nicely done. It looks great!
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Post by: rpdylan on June 08, 2017, 03:32:03 PM
Awesome work Todd! That cheap little light house kit turns out great with a little modeling attention, huh?! 
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Post by: Janbouli on June 08, 2017, 04:20:02 PM
Wow , just awesome Todd.