Okay, the Atlantic and Southern build thread is now officially off and posting.
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Great scene.
i'll be looking in. ;)
Tom,
I'm with you! Can't wait to see and learn more of the ACL & modeling an empire. Thanx Thom...
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 11, 2017, 02:43:30 PM
i'll be looking in. ;)
Greg,
I hope so speedy! 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on May 11, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Tom,
I'm with you! Can't wait to see and learn more of the ACL & modeling an empire. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
I appreciate the support. The empire building sure is fun these days.
Tom ;D
I started scratch building the lone Cracker House for the pine woods.
I found some scrap lap siding and drew one of the end walls on the back. I always draw and cut from the back when scratch building. This method lets the over cuts and pencil marks remain on the rear of the walls.
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After an hour or so I had the four walls sized and cut.
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More in a few.
I cut an opening for the front door and a double window in the front wall section.
The back wall will be up against the photo backdrop so no back door or window.
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I then drew two horizontal lines on the back of the side wall. I don't remember why I did the bottom line but the top one is the same level as the front double window. I needed all the side walls to be the same height from the bottom as the one in front.
The horizontal line give me the reference for the bottom of the side windows.
I then drew three equally spaced vertical lines on the back of the side walls. These lines represent the center of the three side wall windows.
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Continued later this evening.
Tom
Great scene to kickoff volume II. Welcome to life after the lockup. It's not to bad after you get use to it. I have been going into my version 1 and unlocking - doing a bump post and locking it back up when it drops down to the bottom of page 1. I want to keep both volumes on the same page. You may want to do the same thing. I wonder if wonderful Mr. Jimmy D knows of a way of putting the locked close to 200 page threads on the top of page 1???
As always, I will be following along and learning.
I cut the opening for the center window and made a test fit. It all is good up til now.
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I used the cut out plug as a template for the other two windows. I cut the other two openings and made a window test fit with those.
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More in a few.
Quote from: S&S RR on May 11, 2017, 06:24:43 PM
Tom
Great scene to kickoff volume II. Welcome to life after the lockup. It's not to bad after you get use to it. I have been going into my version 1 and unlocking - doing a bump post and locking it back up when it drops down to the bottom of page 1. I want to keep both volumes on the same page. You may want to do the same thing. I wonder if wonderful Mr. Jimmy D knows of a way of putting the locked close to 200 page threads on the top of page 1???
As always, I will be following along and learning.
John,
Thanks, I never thought I'd be locking myself up. ;D ;D ;D ;D I still have the original handcuffs I was issued in October of 1973! Yes, they still work. Oh, that's another lock up and a story for another time.
I think bumping the old along with the new active thread is a good idea. I didn't want anyone to loose the continuity of following the thread. However, nor do I want to go through another crash.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
I used the first wall as a pattern to mark the window openings for the opposite wall section.
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Fast forward and all openings are cut and all windows fit nice and snug.
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More in a few.
I was waiting for the area around the pond to dry. I was bored and got carried away on bracing the back of the walls.
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This last photo put me over the 3100 picture count in the A&S RR thread.
More in a few.
Okay, I remember why I had the bottom pencil line. That was the line for the bottom of the front window, not the top line.
When I measured the height, the side windows sat to low on the side walls. I centered the side windows and the top pencil line was the "new" bottom of the side windows. Confused now!
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Windows centered on the side walls.
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I also forgot to mention I added the corner trim to the side walls as seen in the photo above.
Great work Tom. You have inspired me to scratch build a structure to replace one in the roundhouse area of my layout.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 11, 2017, 08:30:13 PM
Great work Tom. You have inspired me to scratch build a structure to replace one in the roundhouse area of my layout.
Curt,
Thank you. Scratch building is fun and gives you something no one else can go out and purchase. If you need any help just let me know.
Tom ;D
I'm very happy to say that I'm lucky to get to view this masterpiece up close and in person. I dropped in last night to check out the recent progress and can guarantee that it looks just as magnificent in person as it does in the pictures and videos. :D
Tom, you Sir are the
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Donato,
You are very kind to me. Thank you for the support.
Tom ;D
Here's a new short video of the Seaboard Orange Blossom Special.
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It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.
Tom ;D
The Judge and I also did this one this afternoon. He must have been in a hurry or behind schedule. The fast start probably spilled all the coffee in the diner. I held tight to my Diet Pepsi and lost nothing.
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Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle. ::) :D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle. ::) :D
Greg,
His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Excellent work & video shooting my friend! You are truly a well rounded do it all yourself modeler, like all the greats back in the day! I'm glad the rest of the planet now can see what you & the judge look at everyday. Including the older layout pics & footage too! Very nice Sir! Thanx Thom...
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.
Tom ;D
I'd love to see you do mosquito's ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Janbouli on May 13, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
It all looks great Tom, but my favorite perspective is when you pan to the right where the pond is. You can imagine the clouds of mosquitoes there.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I still have a few things to add to the pond area. More on that later.
Tom ;D
I'd love to see you do mosquito's ;) ;) ;)
It's Florida, mosquitoes come for free...
dave
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle. ::) :D
Greg,
His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.
Tom ;D
Gotta get points for trying..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 14, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 13, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 13, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
Ha.....And you rag on my heavy hand on the throttle. ::) :D
Greg,
His start was fast but your Greg Speed is out there. Nice try anyway.
Tom ;D
Gotta get points for trying..... ;D ;D ;D
Okay, a point for trying and a point for the admission of running Greg Speed.
T 8)
I mentioned in an earlier post I poured to much Murky Water in the sink hole. The resin leached into the surrounding scenery.
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To cover this, I painted some white glue around the water's edge and covered the area that showed wet.
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More in a few.
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To represent lily pads, I used a scenery product from NOCH. I used the medium green leaf material and sprinkled it on the white glue. This is what I used.
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More in a few.
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After the glue dried, I used a soft brush to move the excess material off the water surface.
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I go back and add more weeds and bushes around the water in the next few days.
Looks great Tom. Before you brushed it off it kinda looked like duck weed.
Wow, the scene just keeps looking better and better.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 16, 2017, 07:23:58 PM
Looks great Tom. Before you brushed it off it kinda looked like duck weed.
Curt,
Thank you. Yes, it does look like duck weed. I'll have more later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on May 17, 2017, 07:19:38 AM
Wow, the scene just keeps looking better and better.
Mark,
Thank you, much appreciated. I look forward to your visit in June.
Tom ;D
While some scenery was drying, I went back to the Cracker house build.
I forgot to mention I used the small ponce wheel from Micro Mark to add nail holes.
I stained the walls with a light coat of Hunterline Driftwood stain.
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While waiting for the walls to dry, I painted the door and windows with Polly Scale Reefer White. I didn't worry to much about covering them with the paint. I left the paint streaky for represent paint peel. When the Polly Scale paint was dry I dipped them in Hunterline Medium Gray and set them on a napkin to dry.
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More in a few.
When the walls were dry of the A&I stain, I painted them with Floquil Reefer White. I dipped the brush in the paint and then dipped the tip of the brush in some clean thinner and "stained" the walls with the thinned white paint.
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If you haven't noticed, the wall with no door or window opening is upside down. Meaning the lap siding is upside down. When cutting the rear wall, I failed to ensure the lap siding was correct. The good news is I'm sharing my blunder and greater news is that the rear wall is just that, a rear wall. It won't be seen from the isle or by any visitor. Now, if John Siekirk comes over with his stick camera, he may be able to get a shot of the rear wall. ;D ;D ;D
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I was up at 5 this morning, another restless night with little sleep. Where are all the sheep that are supposed to be jumping over the fence?
Anyway, I got a couple of hours of scenery done prior to the Judge arriving.
I added a few more trees and shrubs/undergrowth around the area of the murky pond.
Before:
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After:
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More in a few.
I also added more trees and undergrowth to the rear of Delwin's Boat and Net Storage.
Before:
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After:
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More in a few.
A couple of freebies.
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Tom,
Your modeling skills are second to none! I just love it. What do you think, should I tell George you're on way to give him a hand to touch his layout? ;) Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on May 17, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
Tom,
Your modeling skills are second to none! I just love it. What do you think, should I tell George you're on way to give him a hand to touch his layout? ;) Thanx Thom...
Thom,
You are most kind and your compliment is very much appreciated. Tell Mr. Sellios I'd love to go and help but I need him down here to help me finish for the July 30th NMRA meet. ;) ;) ;)
However, I'll be there for the next Baastan area Expo.
Tom ;D
Truly outstanding Tom. Everything is perfect and life like.
This keeps getting better and better! I love the additions to the pond area since I last saw it. :D :D :D
I was playing some of you videos on the TV the other night (they look great on a big screen by the way) and Eileen was watching them with me. She did say "Where are the little people? You need little people." ;D ;D I told her to be patient. They're coming. ;)
Tom,
One A&S thread is a lonely number, a second A&S thread is a happy number... ;)...Everything you do on your layout is 5 stars. !!! The videos are really neat to watch too... 8) 8) 8)...Glad you are back on track again and working on your layout and everything went well. Look forward to more outstanding modeling on this new thread.
Tommy
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2017, 07:52:09 PM
Truly outstanding Tom. Everything is perfect and life like.
Curt,
As always, thanks very much. I'm getting closer to the look I'm after.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 19, 2017, 07:41:27 AM
This keeps getting better and better! I love the additions to the pond area since I last saw it. :D :D :D
I was playing some of you videos on the TV the other night (they look great on a big screen by the way) and Eileen was watching them with me. She did say "Where are the little people? You need little people." ;D ;D I told her to be patient. They're coming. ;)
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciated. I'll haven't watched any of the videos on the big screen but I'll try this evening.
Tell your lovely wife the little "people" are coming to a layout near you. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on May 19, 2017, 11:50:34 AM
Tom,
One A&S thread is a lonely number, a second A&S thread is a happy number... ;) ...Everything you do on your layout is 5 stars. !!! The videos are really neat to watch too... 8) 8) 8) ...Glad you are back on track again and working on your layout and everything went well. Look forward to more outstanding modeling on this new thread.
Tommy
Tommy,
Your very generous compliment is very much appreciated, thank you.
I'm very happy to be back in the layout room. The three months off was driving me crazy, but considering the options, three months was not a problem at all.
I'm still in recovery mode but able to do all the good stuff on the layout.
Tom ;D
The Judge made arrangements for the Pensacola Zephyr to run on A&S RR tracks. We spotted it coming through the piney woods after crossing the bascule bridge in the Suwannee River Lagoon area.
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The PZ made a quick station stop and we learned from the Rio Grande engineer that their B unit was left in Jacksonville for repairs.
This engineer was much smoother in his departure than most others.
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Back to the Cracker House -
I glued the four walls together. I added weights to keep it level on the work bench. I've noticed in the past a structure can get just slightly out of square. I think this is caused by the glue drying and pulling on the walls enough to just make a slight "off square" structure.
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The weights worked or maybe not but the house is square.
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Continued in a few.
I added gallery glass to the door and windows. When dry I painted on a few blinds. These folks can't afford curtains.
I then glued the door and window in place.
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Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
I decided to add an attic window. This was a little tricksie as the back of the front wall was already braced and the house walls were glued together.
I'll spare ya'll the nasty details but I got it cut in.
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I painted this small window as I did the others.
I also added the first set of exterior rafters. These are right up next to the outside of the wall. I did the front and rear. The rafters were left long and will be cut to adjust to the roof over hang.
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More in a few.
Nice Zephyr videos. I think the train would look better with the CB&Q units pulling it. Just sayin'. ;D
Jeff
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 19, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Nice Zephyr videos. I think the train would look better with the CB&Q units pulling it. Just sayin'. ;D
Jeff
Jeff,
Thank you, much appreciated. I can make CB&Q units happen. Come back tomorrow afternoon and check out. Just sayin'. 8)
Tom ;D
I cut a piece of cardboard to fit the roof. I allowed for 18" of roof over hang on the front and rear. I did cut a piece with a 24" front/rear over hang but it didn't look good on this small structure.
I scored the roof deck in the center.
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I braced the roof and painted the underside Floquil Reefer White to match the rest of the house.
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More in a few.
One half of the roof was glued and then the other.
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More in a few.
I then glued a frame to the front to support the front porch 2X6's.
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I stained some HO scale 2X6's and glued them in place on the front porch area.
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I forgot to mention I glued some HO scale 2X10's to the underside of the house. The 2X10's will give me a better base for gluing on support posts.
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Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.
As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 19, 2017, 06:02:28 PM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.
As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?
Curt,
Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.
It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.
Tom ;D
Nice work on your cracker house. I have been wondering if it is the Ritz cracker house? Inquiring minds, and all that...or maybe I'm just easily amused.
Quote from: jerryrbeach on May 20, 2017, 07:04:52 AM
Nice work on your cracker house. I have been wondering if it is the Ritz cracker house? Inquiring minds, and all that...or maybe I'm just easily amused.
Jerry,
Thank you for the compliment on the cracker house.
Ritz cracker house, good one. I guess Ritz is better than having a Saltine cracker house. ;D ;D ;D
I've been working on the porch posts and railings.
Tom ;D
Hi Tom
I stopped by and got caught up on your layout progress this morning. Very nice modeling. The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued is off to a running start - looking good my friend.
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Tom, the pond area turned out very nice, however, you are missing a Gator lurking around. Also, you need to stop making those structures from looking too perfect; it is making the rest of use look bad.
Thanks Tom, I will give you a call next week.
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Leave it to Greg 8) 8) 8) 8)
Jim
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:49:10 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 19, 2017, 06:02:28 PM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.
As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?
Curt,
Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.
It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.
Tom ;D
It you'd like I can drop off the Micro Mark Corner Punch so you can take it for a test run and see how it compares to what you're doing now. :D
Quote from: S&S RR on May 20, 2017, 08:00:18 AM
Hi Tom
I stopped by and got caught up on your layout progress this morning. Very nice modeling. The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued is off to a running start - looking good my friend.
John,
I thank you for the kind words on the layout, much appreciated. I also appreciate you following along on this adventure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Greg,
Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: MartyO on May 20, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
Tom, the pond area turned out very nice, however, you are missing a Gator lurking around. Also, you need to stop making those structures from looking too perfect; it is making the rest of use look bad.
Marty,
Thank you and thanks very much for the kind compliment. I love working on the layout but structure building is at the top of the list for me.
The smaller Baker's Country Store is the kit I did a build thread for Jimmy D. It's still on the old forum.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2017, 10:10:52 AM
Thanks Tom, I will give you a call next week.
Curt,
Sounds good, if I don't answer I'll call you back. I have many 1:1 yard projects going on next week. However, I'll be here all week.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on May 20, 2017, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Leave it to Greg 8) 8) 8) 8)
Jim
Jim,
Not to worry, I left him a pithy comment!
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 20, 2017, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 06:49:10 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 19, 2017, 06:02:28 PM
Looks great Tom (as always). The white paint is good for showing a little age.
As a nubie here, can you tell me how you cut out the spaces for the windows and doors?
Curt,
Thank you. I like the all white for Southern buildings.
It would be easier to show you than to explain. When you have some time, give me a call and we'll cut out a few windows and doors.
Tom ;D
It you'd like I can drop off the Micro Mark Corner Punch so you can take it for a test run and see how it compares to what you're doing now. :D
Bob,
That would be great if not out of your way. That is one tool I still need to get. I'm still using the #11 Xacto blades.
Tom ;D
As mentioned, The Pensacola Zephyr with CB&Q A-B-A F2 motive power was leased by the Atlantic and Southern RR.
Notice the difference in the sound? These three Burlington units still have the Tsunami Sound and need to be converted to TCS WOW Sound.
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I have a couple more videos of normal A&S RR motive power. I'll get them uploaded later this evening.
Tom ;D
Now THAT'S a Zephyr! ;D Thanks, Tom!
Jeff
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 20, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr! ;D Thanks, Tom!
Jeff
Jeff,
You are very welcome sir.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Greg,
Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D
Tom 8)
Will do.....but, I'll look for it on sale. ;D
Gotta love that Zephyr..... 8)
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 20, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr! ;D Thanks, Tom!
Jeff
Having lived in P-cola for many years myself, I agree with Doctor J. ;D Good video Tom, Go Judge!!! Thanx Thom...
This will be the penultimate video I'll be doing until the end of June. I need to concentrate on getting the land form, farm, orange grove, etc. finished.
The videos are fun but take time. The Judge and I always seem to have 4 takes until we get one we like.
So, that said, here is the next to the last one until after we have oranges on the trees.
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Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 20, 2017, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
How about a little Cheez Wiz with the Ritz? ;D
Greg,
Oaky, bring it on your next visit. Or, is it to expensive? ;D
Tom 8)
Will do.....but, I'll look for it on sale. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 20, 2017, 03:26:47 PM
Gotta love that Zephyr..... 8)
I agree, I do like it better than the Rio Grande.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on May 20, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 20, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
Now THAT'S a Zephyr! ;D Thanks, Tom!
Jeff
Thom,
Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the P-cola Zephyr is most definitely better.
Tom ;D
Having lived in P-cola for many years myself, I agree with Doctor J. ;D Good video Tom, Go Judge!!! Thanx Thom...
The last video for at least 6 weeks.
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Today I finished the porch posts and railings. I then added the porch roof (not glue in place yet) so it is a little off level.
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More in a few.
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More in a few.
Here is where it will be placed.
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More in a few.
Perfect, right behind the trees.
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While finishing details on the cracker house, station and other small details I'll start working on the next section of the layout.
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This is where I'll have a small farm house, barn, orange grove and some cattle. The track will run between a sand hill cut with a road across and above the tracks.
This house will make a great looking scene where you have placed it.
Great looking videos. I could imagine sitting in a car on the road waiting on the train. The building looks as good as any kit you could buy of that house...if it wasn't a one of a kind.
Tom, the structure looks very good in that location and reminds me of many houses along the back roads of Florida. Would you consider adding a second one beside it?
Quote from: sdrees on May 20, 2017, 06:41:23 PM
This house will make a great looking scene where you have placed it.
Steve,
Thank you. I placed it there based on a picture in one of my ACL books. I like the location also.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 20, 2017, 08:25:54 PM
Great looking videos. I could imagine sitting in a car on the road waiting on the train. The building looks as good as any kit you could buy of that house...if it wasn't a one of a kind.
Curt,
Thanks for stopping by the thread and the compliment on the house. The cracker house is just a scratch build to fit the area. I like it back in the trees.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MartyO on May 21, 2017, 08:51:04 AM
Tom, the structure looks very good in that location and reminds me of many houses along the back roads of Florida. Would you consider adding a second one beside it?
Marty,
Thank you, much appreciated. I can't tell you how many of these cracker houses I saw back in the 50's here in the sunshine state as well as Southern Georgia.
I did consider adding a second house here but decided not to as I'm modeling from a picture of the area.
Tom ;D
The picture was taken in May of 1949 in Ruskin, FL. Ruskin is located between Tampa and Bradenton.
There is still plenty of brown from the winter months.
One small rural station, one water tank, one cracker shack and a small structure behind the water tank. I can only assume the hidden structure is some kind of tool shed.
The Atlantic and Southern is set in the late Summer/Fall time so all is very green and healthy.
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Tom,
Excellent layout pic, you really got the knack on the scenery. Hey how did you get the steam on your locomotive? Did you airbrush on a piece of glass? Keep'em coming. KP-out...
Is the water tank square, or is that just the photo perspective Tom?
Quote from: tct855 on May 21, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Tom,
Excellent layout pic, you really got the knack on the scenery. Hey how did you get the steam on your locomotive? Did you airbrush on a piece of glass? Keep'em coming. KP-out...
KPI,
You are one funny guy. The smoke is from the loco! ;)
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 21, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
Is the water tank square, or is that just the photo perspective Tom?
Curt,
the water tank is round full at the bottom and tapered towards the top. It is round, the light is playing games.
Tom ;D
Tom,
This scene is really coming together. You've definitely captured the look/feel of the photo you posted. Nice build of the Cracker house!
Hi Tom:
It's looking great as usual.
Karl
Good morning all! This is my first post. By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years. I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR. Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent. That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.
Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:
The term "Florida cracker" refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period. They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they "cracked" during cattle drives. Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.
This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today. The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.
"The Judge"
Quote from: Judge on May 24, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Good morning all! This is my first post. By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years. I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR. Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent. That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.
Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:
The term "Florida cracker" refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period. They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they "cracked" during cattle drives. Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.
This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today. The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.
"The Judge"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k
Welcome, your honor!
dave
Quote from: Judge on May 24, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Good morning all! This is my first post. By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years. I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR. Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent. That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.
Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:
The term "Florida cracker" refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period. They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they "cracked" during cattle drives. Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.
This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today. The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.
"The Judge"
Well now, let me be the first, er second to welcome "The Judge" to the forum. We all know the wheels of justice turn slow, but they do turn. I only took the Judge the better part of 5 years to post the first of his many coming posts.
Welcome to the forum Judge.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on May 24, 2017, 07:39:22 AM
Tom,
This scene is really coming together. You've definitely captured the look/feel of the photo you posted. Nice build of the Cracker house!
Mark,
Thank you, it was a lot of fun pulling the scenery together.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on May 24, 2017, 07:45:31 AM
Hi Tom:
It's looking great as usual.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you, much appreciated as always.
Tom ;D
Welcome to the forum Bill.....glad to see you posting.....keep 'em coming :)
Welcome to the forum Judge.
Welcome to the Forum Bill (THE JUDGE). I think you and I have been friends for almost as long. It is always good to have someone whose Birthday is the day before mine (cause that means you are OLDER).
Jim
Judging by everyone's reaction, I too welcome you Judge!
Welcome to the Forum Judge. Just a bunch of old farts sitting around swapping lies and playing with their toys. Jim
Welcome to the Judge...hope to see you soon
John
Yes, welcome to the Judge! :) Does this mean we all have to rise when he posts to a thread? ;)
The scenery is top notch Tom. I'm sure looking forward to seeing what you do with the next section. :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 25, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Yes, welcome to the Judge! :) Does this mean we all have to rise when he posts to a thread? ;)
The scenery is top notch Tom. I'm sure looking forward to seeing what you do with the next section. :D
Bob,
Thanks for the compliment on the scenery. I'm building the landscape for the new section now. I'll have some posts to add to the thread probably tomorrow night.
You can stand when you see his post if you so desire. Me? Naw. At least he doesn't carry the gavel with him.
Tom ;D
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 25, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.
No need to twist my (our) arm(s) .... I (we) believe you!!!
Quote from: Judge on May 24, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
Good morning all! This is my first post. By way of introduction, I am known in Forum World as "The Judge" and Tom Langford and I have been friends for over 60 years. I have been "assisting" Tom for the last decade or so while he builds his A&S RR. Tom is the A&S CEO and I am the ticket agent. That sort of defines the difference between our artistic talents.
Tom recently scratch built a "cracker house" for placement in his rural Florida scene and I want to explain where the term "cracker" comes from and how it relates to the A&S RR:
The term "Florida cracker" refers to the Florida version of cowboys or cowpokes who worked the cattle ranches in Central Florida in the post-Civil War period. They got their name from the sound of the bull whips they "cracked" during cattle drives. Their descendants drive pick-up trucks, hunt gators, fish in flat bottomed boats, and chew tobacco. On the A&S, they are idle folk who live in the swampy Suwanee River Basin and make their living from corn squeezings carefully distilled in the palm and pine forest using an old family recipe.
This ends the Florida trivia lessons for today. The lesson on the difference between "Seminoles" and "Seminole Indians" will follow another time.
"The Judge"
I want to extend a special welcome to "The Judge". Great to have you posting on the forum.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 25, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.
Curt,
Thank you very much, you are too kind.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on May 26, 2017, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 25, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I have seen the latest and the greatest on Tom's layout today and believe me when I say it is a work of art.
No need to twist my (our) arm(s) .... I (we) believe you!!!
Donato,
You are too kind as well. Thank you.
Tom ;D
I got tired on the work on the cracker house and rural station. So I moved on for a few days and started adding the land forms/sand hills for the farm area on Baker's Curve.
Farmer Perkins was a stubborn old man. He said the A&S RR could go through his farm but not under it. A few million cubic yards of dirt were removed and the A&S has paid dearly for the right of way at Baker's Curve.
I used the 1/4" pink foam as a base just as I did in the piney woods.
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The pink foam was used as a pattern to cut the 1/2" blue foam.
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More in a few.
I used three layers of the blue foam making the height at 1 3/4" through the cut. Each successive piece of blue foam was cut smaller than the last. They were glued together and sanded at the desired angle.
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I'm not concerned about the crooked blue foam. It will be sanded further and receive a coat or two of spackle to smooth out the cut.
More in a few.
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Looking good Tom. I can't wait to see your farm in place.
Thanks for showing this step by step Tom , I have a couple of scenes like this coming up on my layout.
Interesting, very interesting.
Jim
Looking good Tom. You make it look so easy.
Tom,
Thanks for your continuing inspirational narratives.
What do you use to join the layers of blue foam together, please?
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 28, 2017, 04:09:04 PM
Looking good Tom. I can't wait to see your farm in place.
Curt,
Thanks as always. I'm really very excited about this new cut through area. I'll share what plans I have later.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on May 28, 2017, 06:18:03 PM
Thanks for showing this step by step Tom , I have a couple of scenes like this coming up on my layout.
Jan,
You are very welcome. Sharing what I'm doing keeps me motivated to keep moving forward.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on May 28, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
Interesting, very interesting.
Jim
Jim,
Yes, it is. Stay tuned. I plan to have this area finished by the end of June, meaning next month.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on May 29, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Looking good Tom. You make it look so easy.
Mark,
Thank you, much appreciated. It is easy some times and other times I wonder to myself what the H--l are you doing Tom?
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 29, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
Tom,
Thanks for your continuing inspirational narratives.
What do you use to join the layers of blue foam together, please?
Chip,
You are most welcome. I appreciate you and the many others that follow along on the adventure.
The 1/4" pink and 1/2" blue foam are all glued with Elmer's White Glue. The pink foam is glued to the plywood with the white glue also. The glue doesn't attack the foam and it works really well. Sorry, I should have mentioned it in the narrative.
Tom ;D
OH boy more heavy road work. Tom you must have been an engineer/contractor in your former life! Jim
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Builder (of the Layout),
He is trampling out the vintage where the Plywood Flat was stored,
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His X-Acto Knife and Glue.
The Build is marching on".
Sorry for the paraphrasing, but I could not resist.
Great Job Tom
Jim
Continuing with the musical theme.....
Over hill, over dale.....
Looking good Tom..... 8)
As long I don't hit the dusty trail!
The blue foam was continued around Baker's Curve.
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I made a few sanding adjustments and created some new blue ballast. 8) 8)
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More in a few.
I forgot to mention on each side of the foam is a very thin sheet of a paper like film.
You can pull it off or leave it. It glues together all the same. I've done it both ways.
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The foam piece from the photo above was then glued in place.
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More in a few.
More sanding and blue ballast.
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All foam is in place and vacuumed.
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More in a few.
I added two pieces in the corner for elevation of the trees.
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The train looks good through the cut at Baker's Curve.
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I covered the track and will start the process of covering the foam with spackle to form the sides and slopes.
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Spackle was added here to bring the slope from the river to the top level.
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More in a few.
I took this picture from one of my ACL books. This is the look I'm going for the next area of development, ie, the farm area.
The piney woods area I did is about 13 ft. in length. This next area is 15 1/2 ft. in length.
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Great work Tom. I like the idea of working from a prototypical scene. It's going to look awesome when it's done.
Hi Tom,
I like the progress that you have been making on your layout. It is looking very nice.
"The hills are alive....." ;)
I like the concept for the new area. It's going to look great. I can't wait to see Greg highballing freight train through there. You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed. ;)
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 02, 2017, 09:20:10 AM
I like the concept for the new area. It's going to look great. I can't wait to see Greg highballing freight train through there. You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed. ;)
Greg Speed thru the Farmland
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on June 02, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 02, 2017, 09:20:10 AM
I like the concept for the new area. It's going to look great. I can't wait to see Greg highballing freight train through there. You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed. ;)
Greg Speed thru the Farmland
Jim
The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on May 29, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
OH boy more heavy road work. Tom you must have been an engineer/contractor in your former life! Jim
Jim,
Yes, I've hauled my share of filth - in the squad car. 8) 8)
Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on May 29, 2017, 07:20:04 PM
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Builder (of the Layout),
He is trampling out the vintage where the Plywood Flat was stored,
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His X-Acto Knife and Glue.
The Build is marching on".
Sorry for the paraphrasing, but I could not resist.
Great Job Tom
Jim
Jim,
There was a guy named Jim, I don't know what to do with him.
He wrote a nice poem, now I guess I owe 'em.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 01, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Great work Tom. I like the idea of working from a prototypical scene. It's going to look awesome when it's done.
Curt,
It helps to have a picture of what I want done. I need to as my head is too full of a bazillion other ideas.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on June 01, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Hi Tom,
I like the progress that you have been making on your layout. It is looking very nice.
Steve,
Thanks very much. I hope this area goes a smoothly as the piney woods.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 02, 2017, 09:20:10 AM
I like the concept for the new area. It's going to look great. I can't wait to see Greg highballing freight train through there. You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed. ;)
Bob,
Much appreciated, thank you. I ran a train through the sand hills and it is really going to be a nice scene.
Greg, I on a limited throttle pass at this time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 02, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 02, 2017, 09:20:10 AM
I like the concept for the new area. It's going to look great. I can't wait to see Greg highballing freight train through there. You could video it and then play it in slow motion so it would appear to be going normal speed. ;)
Greg Speed thru the Farmland
Jim
Jim,
Greg needs to be reprogrammed. Just like a loco. Next time he is over, the Judge and I will put him on the program track and push a few commands.
Tom 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 02, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D
I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o
Tom 8)
I've been adding spackle to the sides of the blue foam. So far I've used 3/4 of a gallon. For those living on Longwood, that's 3 quarts.
Just saying.
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More in a few.
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The spackle on the upper right still needs to be smoothed out.
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I believe that it's Bithlo you might thinking of, not Longwood. :)
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:16:11 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 02, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D
I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o
Tom 8)
I'll explain it to you the next time we go for pig. ;D
Tom, you are flying along with the landscaping (I couldn't resist). I'm psychic...it's going to be fantastic looking when you're done with it . ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2017, 03:16:11 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 02, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
The only to fly..... ;D ;D ;D
I have no idea what this even means. :o :o :o
Tom 8)
I'll explain it to you the next time we go for pig. ;D
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Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 04, 2017, 04:58:57 PM
Tom, you are flying along with the landscaping (I couldn't resist). I'm psychic...it's going to be fantastic looking when you're done with it . ;D
Curt,
Thanks for checking in. I'm almost finished flying along on this section.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on June 05, 2017, 03:18:00 PM
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Donato,
I see you found my photo! ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Looking really good Tom.
Mark,
Thanks very much. BTW, I did respond to the PM but I guess it got lost like my thread a few months back.
Let me know if you don't get a reply in the PM.
Tom ;D
407-896-5796
Yesterday the Judge and I added new layout fascia to the farm area. We used the table saw outside and ripped a few 8 ft. pieces of Masonite/hardboard in 6 inch widths. We then screwed the fascia in place.
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Once the fascia was in place, I added spackle to the area that was against the inside of the fascia.
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Now I can start the process of adding sand to the sloped areas.
Coming along nicely Tom.
super, just super my friend.
Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 08, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
Coming along nicely Tom.
Curt,
Thank you sir, much appreciated. I'll have a little more this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 08, 2017, 11:59:51 PM
super, just super my friend.
Jim
Butty Jim,
Much appreciated, thank you!
Tom ;D
Today I started adding the base ground scenery to the South side of the Tahope River area. I won't go into any detail as it is all in Part 1 of the A&S RR thread.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080617161957.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165616.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165616.jpeg)
More in a few.
A little fast forward here and this is where I stopped. I'll explain why in the next post.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165633.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165633.jpeg)
What you see above is actually two layers of my base scenery.
When this dries I plan on adding two additional layers of ground scenery prior to any trees and bushes being added.
More in a few.
Those of you that know me and better yet, know my history, know I have no qualms about ripping a part or all the layout out! Call me Mr. Redo but if I don't like it or think it doesn't look correct, out it comes and there it goes.
I decided that I didn't like the way the wall side of the sand hill looked when compared to the inside sand hill.
You guessed it, out it came.
I used the long bladed knife to reshape the hill/slope.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165646.jpeg)
The spackle is vinyl. When I cut the foam I was able to remove the spackle in pieces, many, many pieces.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165702.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165715.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165715.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165728.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165728.jpeg)
After I got the basic shape to my satisfaction, I used course 50 grit aluminum oxide sandpaper on a 1X4 block and started sanding.
When I was finished, I couldn't see the track in places.
More in a few.
I cleaned up the area and got all the blue foam dust off the track and layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165802.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165818.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165818.jpeg)
Don't know if the new slope is visible but it is better and now I'm satisfied.
More in a few.
A new coat of spackle was added to the new slope.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165831.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165831.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165843.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165843.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090617165856.jpeg)
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
Bill,
Sounds good to me, in and out. While at the University of Florida we went to a local burger joint called, Yep, The In and Out. It was drive through only.
I appreciate the support, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 10, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Not on you life.......
Jim
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Quote from: GPdemayo on June 10, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Oh, come on. Where is your sense of adventure?
Tom 8)
Quote from: jimmillho on June 10, 2017, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 10, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Not on you life.......
Jim
Getting timid in our advanced age are we?
Tom 8)
Quote from: Donato on June 10, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
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Donato,
Yepper, that's the one. The good ole In-N-Out Burger joint. The we had at the University of Florida didn't have a walk up window.
Tom ;D
Yesterday, The Judge and I had Greg run a steam loco around the layout. We told him not to go over 25 MPH on the throttle. He said he would give it a try.
I had a picture of Greg at the throttle but I accidentally deleted the photo.To his credit he did in fact run the SAL steamer #492 around layout one time. His knees and hands were shaking so bad he needed to lean up against the bench work to steady himself.
No sooner did he get the steamer back to the station, that throttle went to 40 MPH+. In Greg's own words, "I did it for one lap but just couldn't keep my fingers from turning the throttle higher."
Ya just can't teach old dogs new tricks.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:33:27 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on June 10, 2017, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 10, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 10, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
Sounds like you are still having fun. Your nick name should be Mr. in and out. Put it in then take it out. That dose not sound right. The progress looks good Tom, have fun.
Bill
I'm not touching that one Bill..... ;D ;D ;D
Not on you life.......
Jim
Getting timid in our advanced age are we?
Tom 8)
Oh yeah..... ;D
Tom
I just got caught up on your build thread - as always great work. The proper term for re-do's is Engineering Changes. Every time I have one on the S&S RR - and the boss says you spend most of your time tearing things out - I point to two pictures I have of the F&SM taken 10 years apart. George took out a whole mountain range. It just part of the hobby. If you can't find a better way the second time your not getting better. Keep up the great work.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 07:44:04 AM
Yesterday, The Judge and I had Greg run a steam loco around the layout. We told him not to go over 25 MPH on the throttle. He said he would give it a try.
I had a picture of Greg at the throttle but I accidentally deleted the photo.To his credit he did in fact run the SAL steamer #492 around layout one time. His knees and hands were shaking so bad he needed to lean up against the bench work to steady himself.
No sooner did he get the steamer back to the station, that throttle went to 40 MPH+. In Greg's own words, "I did it for one lap but just couldn't keep my fingers from turning the throttle higher."
Ya just can't teach old dogs new tricks.
What an experience.....it took a couple of hours rest and a Diet Pepsi to recover from the ordeal when I got home. ;D
What an experience.....it took a couple of hours rest and a Diet Pepsi to recover from the ordeal when I got home. ;D
I am still holding my breath waiting for the other shoe to drop, and find that Greg has been committed. :o :o :o :o
Jim
Quote from: S&S RR on June 11, 2017, 08:35:48 AM
Tom
I just got caught up on your build thread - as always great work. The proper term for re-do's is Engineering Changes. Every time I have one on the S&S RR - and the boss says you spend most of your time tearing things out - I point to two pictures I have of the F&SM taken 10 years apart. George took out a whole mountain range. It just part of the hobby. If you can't find a better way the second time your not getting better. Keep up the great work.
John,
Thanks very much for stopping by and for the kind compliment.
I worked for a road construction company after college. I was waiting to be accepted as a rookie on the Orlando Police Dept. It was March of 1972 when I got the road construction job. I was put on a grease truck. My job was to change the oil and grease all the Road Graders, Bull Dozers, Drag Lines and anything else that needed oil or lube.
They called me a Preventive Maintenance Engineer. However, I told them they paid me like a grease monkey. I made $3.25 an hour. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
This morning I started adding the dirt to the sides of the sand hills.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123540.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123540.jpeg)
For information on how I did this you can follow it in the link listed below.
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/1695/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/1695/)
The link is from my Part 1 of the Atlantic and Southern Build Thread. I locked the first part as I was quickly approaching 200 pages. The last time I reached page 200, the server crashed and I lost almost 3 years of thread information.
You can view the old thread but will not be able to respond/post a comment to the old Part 1. Any comments or questions you may have can be posted to this current thread.
More in a few.
The section you see above is just over 8 feet. This leaves me a little over 8 feet left to add the dirt to the rest of the slope around Baker's Curve.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123557.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123557.jpeg)
More in a few.
This next section is 28 inches from the Tahope River's edge. I plan to bring the forest area up to the line as shown in the photo below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123609.jpeg)
Here I have the first of four base scenery layers down.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110617123622.jpeg)
More in a few.
After the forest area is blended in, I'll have some space and then the start of an 80 tree orange grove.
The grove will be placed between the forest edge and the farm house and small barn. The small farm will have a wind mill to draw water from the Tahope River for the orange grove. To the south of the orange grove and barn will be Ma's garden area with corn, cabbage and others goodies.
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing" ;D
But for the right price................................................................................. ::)
Great work Tom.
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 11, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing" ;D
But for the right price................................................................................. ::)
Great answer! I do carry. 8)
Tom ;D
I didn't get anything done today worth showing. I did make a few goose neck lamps for Frank's, er, I mean my structure.
John Mancuso, Cuse on the forum, stopped by this afternoon. I think it was the first time in a year he checked in.
Hopefully I'll have something to show tomorrow.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 12, 2017, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 11, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 11, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
I have other plans for the area but I'll share them later. I don't want to give all my secrets away. There needs to be some sort "What is he going to do next" suspense. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I know, I know.....but I'm doing a Sgt. Schultz - "I know nothing" ;D
But for the right price................................................................................. ::)
Great answer! I do carry. 8)
Tom ;D
Uhoh..... ::)
Today I finished getting the dirt on the slopes up to Baker's Curve.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180130.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180143.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180308.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180308.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180156.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130617180156.jpeg)
The dark area in the dirt is where the glue is still wet.
Tom,
Your scenery is coming along very nicely.
Quote from: sdrees on June 13, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
Tom,
Your scenery is coming along very nicely.
Steve,
Thank you, much appreciated. It has been fun. I just ordered more trees and other scenery stuff from SE.
I need a few more pine trees for a part of this area.
Tom ;D
Great job Tom. It's coming along beautifully.
Next time I'm told to go play in the dirt....I know where I have to go...........!!!
Hi Tom:
Looks like the RR is coming along quite nicely. I following along as usual.
Karl
Hey Tom
The scenery is looking great.
Jerry
Hey there Mr. Tom Thank you so much for the updated tour of your fantastic endeavor. It was great to see it in person again. Kris said pictures do not do the lay out justice. There are little details you just do not see until you are right there. It was great to see the Babe again we had a good time!! Keep at it my friend.
Bill & Kris
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 13, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Great job Tom. It's coming along beautifully.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on June 14, 2017, 03:53:39 PM
Next time I'm told to go play in the dirt....I know where I have to go...........!!!
Donato,
Come on down, you are the next contestant in the You Can Play in the Dirt Show!
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on June 15, 2017, 07:41:11 AM
Hi Tom:
Looks like the RR is coming along quite nicely. I following along as usual.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks, very much appreciated. And, thank you for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on June 15, 2017, 11:27:41 AM
Hey Tom
The scenery is looking great.
Jerry
Jerry,
The kind compliment is much appreciated. Thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 15, 2017, 02:54:33 PM
Hey there Mr. Tom Thank you so much for the updated tour of your fantastic endeavor. It was great to see it in person again. Kris said pictures do not do the lay out justice. There are little details you just do not see until you are right there. It was great to see the Babe again we had a good time!! Keep at it my friend.
Bill & Kris
Bill and Kris,
Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout. Also, thanks for driving down to visit. The babe and I had a great time today and we always enjoy the visiting.
Most of the stuff Pam told you about me really isn't true. Well, some of it anyway. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ya'll are welcome anytime.
Tom and the Babe ;D
You've been making some great progress Tom! Looking great.
Oh darn.....I missed seeing Bill & Kris again.....I nee to get up and see their new signal system. :)
Quote from: MAP on June 17, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
You've been making some great progress Tom! Looking great.
Mark,
Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 17, 2017, 08:51:46 AM
Oh darn.....I missed seeing Bill & Kris again.....I nee to get up and see their new signal system. :)
Greg,
Not to worry, They will be back.
Tom ;D
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.
I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.
Tom
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.
I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.
Tom
Tom
I understand, taking time to take and post pictures bites into the build time. We appreciate your sharing your build with us and please strike a balance that doesn't slow you down "to much". The layout is real looking great.
Tom, don't worry about posting. We know you're getting ready to be on the NMRA national convention tours. Save the pics and descriptions for after. Not that it's ONLY FORTY DAYS AWAY or anything. ;D ;D ;D
Jeff
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 17, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
You've been making some great progress Tom! Looking great.
Mark,
Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.
Tom ;D
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Quote from: S&S RR on June 20, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Just to let all know I haven't been idle. I'm several pictures behind on the layout thread update.
I'll try to get some updates posted tomorrow evening.
Tom
Tom
I understand, taking time to take and post pictures bites into the build time. We appreciate your sharing your build with us and please strike a balance that doesn't slow you down "to much". The layout is real looking great.
John,
Yes, you are correct in that the build time suffers when posting. For me it does keep my focused on the layout build thread.
Thank you for the compliment on the layout. I'm still posting but will slow down until I have something worth posting.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 20, 2017, 08:53:13 AM
Tom, don't worry about posting. We know you're getting ready to be on the NMRA national convention tours. Save the pics and descriptions for after. Not that it's ONLY FORTY DAYS AWAY or anything. ;D ;D ;D
Jeff
Jeff,
Thanks for the support but I need to post as it keep me really focused and motivated. I'm ahead of my self imposed schedule but I don't want to get behind and enter panic mode either.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on June 20, 2017, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 19, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: MAP on June 17, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
You've been making some great progress Tom! Looking great.
Mark,
Thanks for stopping by. I'm a little behind on the forum in relation to where the work currently is.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cassandrasembroidery.com%2Fimages%2FALittleBehind%2FSet1%2FALittleBehind.jpg&hash=bb16f0a1171c98011527d4181d85c730b7c81418) (http://www.cassandrasembroidery.com/images/ALittleBehind/Set1/ALittleBehind.jpg)
Donato,
Now that is a lot of behinds! I'm not that far gone as yet. LOL!
Tom ;D
Recently I added some thick ground cover/weeds between the track ballast and sand hill slopes.
I've already done one side but here is my process of adding the weeds and other growth.
I painted some white glue in the area I wanted to cover. In this case the area between the ballast and the slope.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183310.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183310.jpeg)
I allowed the glue to set for several minutes and let it seek it's own level. I then randomly sprinkled on some Scenic Express ground cover. I also let this set for several minutes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183327.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183327.jpeg)
More in a few.
After several minutes you can see where the ground cover starts to soak into the glue and allowed to soak in.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183340.jpeg)
At this time, I then sprinkle on more ground cover of a different color and texture. This layer is applied over the still visible white glue.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183357.jpeg)
More in a few.
After several hours, approximately five, I soak the area with matte medium. I then add a third layer of yet another green color and some more clumpy ground material.
I don't find it necessary to add more matte medium as the ground foam material will eventually soak up the matte medium.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183412.jpeg)
The wet stain in the dirt is the diluted matte medium. When it dries the wet stain will disappear.
Here is how it looks when dry. Actually the next day.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183425.jpeg)
More in a few.
I also added the final coat of paint for the Tahope River area. I'll add the water resin over this color.
I used Golden brand Fluid Acrylic Artist paint for the river. This paint is used for artist watercolor effects.
In the photo below you can see the two colors I used and blended for the water color.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183238.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183238.jpeg)
Phthalo Blue and Sap Green Hue were the colors I chose. I used these same two colors for the Suwannee River Basin area except I didn't use the Yellow Ochre and Burnt Sienna in this, the Tahope River.
Here is how it looks after drying. The river looks much brighter than it actually is. I lighted it so you can see the color. I will be much darker when the resin water is added.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183253.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183253.jpeg)
I have some cypress trees and some dead logs to go in prior to adding the water.
ACL 1504,
Thank you for the constant stapling of new additions to the thread. After house construction all day, it's nice to come & take a break and know there's always sumptun cookin' at KP II's diner! KP out...
Looking good as always Tom , another great scene in the making.
Quote from: tct855 on June 21, 2017, 06:26:26 PM
ACL 1504,
Thank you for the constant stapling of new additions to the thread. After house construction all day, it's nice to come & take a break and know there's always sumptun cookin' at KP II's diner! KP out...
Thom,
You are very welcome and thank you for checking in and following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on June 22, 2017, 03:39:44 AM
Looking good as always Tom , another great scene in the making.
Jan,
Thank you, much appreciated. This will be a fun scene to do.
Tom ;D
Terrific progress Tom.....enjoyed meeting Curt yesterday. 8)
Hi Tom:
Looks great as always.
Karl
As always the pictures don't do justice to your modeling.
Tom, you continue to keep me flabbergasted ..... keep it up!!
Quote from: postalkarl on June 22, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
Hi Tom:
Looks great as always.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you, your comments are always appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 22, 2017, 10:05:42 AM
As always the pictures don't do justice to your modeling.
Curt,
Thanks for stopping by. I enjoyed our visit and lunch last week. Oh, I do appreciate your kind compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on June 22, 2017, 12:24:14 PM
Tom, you continue to keep me flabbergasted ..... keep it up!!
Donato,
Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout work. Sometimes I just get plain lucky and it all turns out well.
Tom ;D
Today I did get some done on the layout. I upgraded a few cyress trees and poured some water in the Tahope River.
I'll upload some pictures tomorrow. I'm a bit worn out for today.
Tom 8)
KPII,
Glad to hear your red ryder shooter is working again. I bet it will be even bigger better once it's spit shined up and placed back in the cabinet! KP-out...
Quote from: tct855 on June 27, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
KPII,
Glad to hear your red ryder shooter is working again. I bet it will be even bigger better once it's spit shined up and placed back in the cabinet! KP-out...
KPI,
Yes, the red ryder, or rider I should say, is working once again. Not sure I should read into the rest of the comment!
I don't want us both kicked off the forum. 8) 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Well, I'm way behind in my posting to the thread but I do have two updates I'll share today.
I got two big boxes of super trees from SE prior to my last surgery. They are the ones boiled in the glycerin/e but I think they will be fine after I soak them in matte medium.
Out of the two boxes I got about 300 trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183438.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183438.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183551.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190617183551.jpeg)
More in a few.
I was telling the Judge I needed to purchase several more self closing tweezers. I was holding a clothes pin when he came up with a great idea.
He suggested instead of buying the self closing tweezers for $4 each, we take a clothes pin, glue two big nuts (no Thom, not the Judge and me) to each end of the clothes pin.
We went to Ace Hardware and got 30 big nuts for $3.00.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181542.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181542.jpeg)
I used super glue and glued the nuts on the clothes pins.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181613.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181613.jpeg)
More in a few.
Thirty clothes pins from Ace Hardware - $3.00
Thirty big nuts from Ace Hardware - $3.00
New wood self closing tweezers for less than 30 cents each - Priceless
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617185131.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617185131.jpeg)
I decided to add some cypress trees to the Tahope River. I mentioned in a prior post I'm using HO scale Cypress Trees from JTT - a division of MRC.
The tree trunks are a very light gray. I used Hunterline A&I Medium Brown to darken the tree bark.
You can see clearly the difference in the photo below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181650.jpeg)
Also, I wanted to tone down the bright green on the leaves. I sprayed a light coat of hair spray and misted the tree from the top. I then used Woodland Scenics Fine Turf - Earth and sprinkled a little from the top down.
The earth tone appears much darker than it is in the next photo. The photo above gives you a better idea of how if really looks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181705.jpeg)
More in a few.
The trees come with a wire armature on the bottom. I didn't want to drill any holes in the river bed so I cut the armature off.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181720.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181720.jpeg)
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Diet Pepsi break time folks. Back in a few.
Glad to see you're back at it, Tom. I like the clothespin idea. I found that straightening the trees with the soldering iron worked well on the more crooked ones. Two quick questions. My Super Tree Starter kit had more "flat" trees. The 1/4 Bushel "Value Pak" had more three dimensional trees. 1.) Is what you're showing the "Super Value Case"? 2). Are there more 3-D and less "flat" trees? Thanks for your answers in advance.
Jeff
I used hot glue to secure the tree to the river bed. I was very careful and didn't burn my fingers this time.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181756.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181756.jpeg)
I glued a total of four cypress trees along the banks.
I took a medium size sage tree and broke off a branch. I glued one half to the river bank and glued the other half a little above the river bed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181810.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 28, 2017, 07:06:22 PM
Glad to see you're back at it, Tom. I like the clothespin idea. I found that straightening the trees with the soldering iron worked well on the more crooked ones. Two quick questions. My Super Tree Starter kit had more "flat" trees. The 1/4 Bushel "Value Pak" had more three dimensional trees. 1.) Is what you're showing the "Super Value Case"? 2). Are there more 3-D and less "flat" trees? Thanks for your answers in advance.
Jeff
Jeff,
The Judge really came through on the clothes pin and nut idea. They work as well as the $4.00 metal tweezers.
I tried the soldering iron trick and it didn't work to well for me.
Great question about the trees. And, I have a great answer.
I also bought the "Value Pack" from SE and found many of the trees flat. These I just used against the photo backdrop.
I believe the flat trees came from packing the value pack in one box. Okay, mine were literally crammed in the box. Many were broken and many more were flat. I didn't get many full trees in that order and the bad trees I cut into the pine trees.
The trees I'm showing is the value pack - my second order. I think I only got three flat trees in this bunch.
All the trees you see are all full size trees of differing heights.
Here is the difference. When I placed the second order I asked that the order be shipped in two separate boxes. I asked for the trees to be gently placed in the boxes and not pushed down. I said I would pay for the extra box shipping but I don't think they charged me.
Hope this helps.
I used the WS Deep Pour Water Clear for the Tahope River. I followed the directions and mixed the entire amount. I gently poured the river water in the bed and let is seek it own level.
Here is how it looked about 30 minutes after the pour.
You can see the dead tree above the water. I later pushed this down in the water. You'll see it later in this post.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181827.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181827.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181841.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181841.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181858.jpeg)
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You can see where the water leached up on the bank. My answer to this, low tide water. You can see in the next photo I've pushed the dead tree a little into the water.
Still water runs deep.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181932.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617181932.jpeg)
Looks great Tom. They cypress trees are just nice until you "sink em" in the water, then they're NICE!
John
Beautiful Tom, I bought those tree's from a florist wholesale , lot's and lot's cheaper then from SE.
We have water! ;D ;D ;D Awesome! Simply awesome.
Neat..... 8)
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
Quote from: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
...my exact sentiments ...
Quote from: Donato on June 29, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
...my exact sentiments ...
Exactly exact.
Jim
Quote from: Cuse on June 28, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
Looks great Tom. They cypress trees are just nice until you "sink em" in the water, then they're NICE!
John
John,
Thank you. Yes, the cypress trees do look better in the water.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on June 29, 2017, 04:09:17 AM
Beautiful Tom, I bought those tree's from a florist wholesale , lot's and lot's cheaper then from SE.
Jan,
Thank you as well. They don't sell the super trees in the florist in the states. :'(
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 29, 2017, 07:48:55 AM
We have water! ;D ;D ;D Awesome! Simply awesome.
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciated. As they say, "It looks better in person." At least I think it does.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
Steve,
Thank you for the compliment. I did fall off the horse a few times this year but I get back in the saddle each time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on June 29, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
...my exact sentiments ...
Donato,
My thanks, exactly!
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 29, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: Donato on June 29, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: sdrees on June 29, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
glad that your are doing better and back at it. Looking very nice Tom!!!!!
...my exact sentiments ...
Exactly exact.
Jim
Jim,
I'll tell you the exact same Thank You!
Tom ;D
Today I used almost all my old super trees from the old layout to cover the river bank on the south side.
Here is my work area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174707.jpeg)
I'll not waste precious time pontificating all I did so I'll just show ya'll a photo display of what I did.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174721.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174721.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174735.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174735.jpeg)
I like to look of the trees and underbrush out over the waters edge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174829.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174842.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174750.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290617174815.jpeg)
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Now that the resin water is thoroughly dry, I'll add a just a very thin layer of Deep Pour Water on the top. This will look much better as the second pour won't creep up on the bank. The dry water won't let the wet water creep up anymore than it has.
Also, the water will be a little higher on the cypress trees.
Beautiful work Tom.
Tom,
Absolutely beautiful work. Really give the impression of the South. Might suggest a little more tree liter along the river bank in the background. Another thought might include a little scum on the water. I used a very diluted acrylic paint on a brush to get this effect. I think that everyone visiting your layout next month will enjoy seeing your beautiful layout. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 29, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Curt,
Thank you and as always, I appreciate your following along on the adventure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on June 29, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
Tom,
Absolutely beautiful work. Really give the impression of the South. Might suggest a little more tree liter along the river bank in the background. Another thought might include a little scum on the water. I used a very diluted acrylic paint on a brush to get this effect. I think that everyone visiting your layout next month will enjoy seeing your beautiful layout. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Good Morning sir. Thank you for the kind words on the progress.
You and RWL always seem to be thinking ahead of my own thoughts. More river debris and other accumulations are in the works. River scum is planned for some areas around the cypress trees.
Now, everyone knows what I'm thinking. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Bravo, Bravo, Bravissimo .....!!!
Looks like that just flows out of the back ground. Really neat!!!!!!
Jim
Quote from: Donato on June 30, 2017, 01:22:16 PM
Bravo, Bravo, Bravissimo .....!!!
Donato,
Thanks very mucho.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 30, 2017, 02:42:38 PM
Looks like that just flows out of the back ground. Really neat!!!!!!
Jim
Jim,
Thanks, it does. Everything smelly flows east.
Tom ;D
I finally started work on the area due south of everything else. This is the area where the track leaves the mainline to the track leading to the Ovalix and reverse loops.
I was going to extend the sand hill next to the front and this is why you see the Masonite fascia raised on the right.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182023.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182023.jpeg)
If I did this, then it would be necessary to carry the hill around to the center portion as well. I decided not to do this so I cut the Masonite level with the scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182037.jpeg)
I plan to have a spur track here with some sort of industry. It's a better idea than the sand hill.
More in a few.
You can also see I added spackle to the area on the smaller background hill. This will be covered with trees and under brush.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182052.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182106.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280617182106.jpeg)
More in a few.
I also added the road to this area. The road was drawn in roughly or roughly drawn in, which ever you prefer.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143408.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143408.jpeg)
I marked on the ballast where the road would be cut next to the track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143422.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143422.jpeg)
Continued in a few. Time for my favorite beverage break.
I cut the ballast and cork where the new sub-roadbed will meet the crossing.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143443.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143443.jpeg)
I cut a notch in the new cork road base to fit the area I removed from the track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143458.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143458.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143513.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143513.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how the cork roadbed base fits the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143530.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143530.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143549.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143549.jpeg)
I'll finish showing the road construction in the next few days.
More on scenery in a few.
I used the last bit of the trees from the old layout. I used them to fill in the upper area above the river and to the right of the track/layout edge area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143651.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143651.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143638.jpeg)
More in a few.
Arial view looking north.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143711.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300617143711.jpeg)
Tom,
Nice river shots! Sorry, but I just can't help it. T...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4-eKvv3EM
Gorgeous modeling Tom.
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.
Quote from: tct855 on June 30, 2017, 06:40:53 PM
Tom,
Nice river shots! Sorry, but I just can't help it. T...
Thom,
Thank you. The Dobbie Brothers were a great group but their best song was and still is "What a Fool Believes."
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 30, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Gorgeous modeling Tom.
Curt,
Thank you very much. I need to put you on the payroll! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on July 01, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.
Marty,
Your very kind compliment on the scenery is very much appreciated. The layering of the scenery sure changes the appearance of the scenes. When I think about skipping a layer, I look back and see it just won't do.
I'm very happy you are following along on this adventure.
Tom ;D
I finished the main road on the south side. The road appears to be off center, it isn't. It's an optical illusion.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165402.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165402.jpeg)
I moved back to the farm area and added the background scenery. My background scenery is the scenery I add to blend the photo backdrop to the layout.
White glue was spread on the foam.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165417.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165417.jpeg)
More in a few.
After the white glue is spread out, the first layer of scenery was added and spread.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165634.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165649.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165649.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165705.jpeg)
More in a few.
After the first layer was dry, I wet it with wet water and added a spray of matte medium. I then added layers two and three to the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165721.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165721.jpeg)
The part of the scenery will be behind another scene so only the three layers were used.
I did add the background underbrush to blend the layout scenery to the photo backdrop.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165736.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165736.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165750.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165750.jpeg)
I'll add a few trees to this narrow strip of scenery in a few days.
I also added three layers of scenery to the corner as well. This corner will be all trees and undergrowth. They will be added in the next two weeks if not sooner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165805.jpeg)
More tomorrow afternoon.
More in a few
I just love how everything just flows into the background.
Quote from: JusticeCity on July 01, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.
EASY!
Next thing you know, he'll be taking up an offering to pay for all of the scenery materials. ;)
Beautiful. Simply beautiful Tom.
Quote from: Janbouli on July 01, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
I just love how everything just flows into the background.
Jan,
Thank you for the kind compliment on the scenery. I'm glad you are along on the trip.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 01, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: JusticeCity on July 01, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Tom, your representation of the prototype is truelly spectacular and unbelievable. The attention to detailing and layering of scenic material is bordering on a religous experience. Keep on going with the knowledge that you have a fan in me.
EASY!
Next thing you know, he'll be taking up an offering to pay for all of the scenery materials. ;)
Chip,
Hmmm great idea, I never thought of that. Well, maybe just a small admission fee. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on July 02, 2017, 06:19:05 AM
Beautiful. Simply beautiful Tom.
Mark,
Thank you, it is really a lot of fun at this point.
Tom ;D
If anyone was wondering what my grid was all about, I'm ready to tell.
I plan on having an orange grove in that location and needed to see how I was going to fit it in and how many trees I would need.
The spacing on the grid is 2.5 inches.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165820.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165820.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165834.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165834.jpeg)
More in a few.
Woodland Scenics makes the best orange trees I've seen.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165904.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165904.jpeg)
Basically they are a medium fiber puff ball on a plastic armature with WS material and WS oranges.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165850.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165850.jpeg)
Really not to bad looking.
More in a few
The trees sit on a small round plastic base.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165917.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165917.jpeg)
The good news is the round base comes off. I decided I was going to use the point on the bottom of the trunk and just push them into the blue foam. Then I came up with a better idea. More on this later in the thread.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165931.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165931.jpeg)
More in a few.
I started out with 48 orange trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165946.jpeg)
And this gave me 48 little plastic tree bases.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717140054.jpeg)
Back after a lengthy Diet Pepsi break. Actually, I need to get some super trees out of the matte medium where they have been soaking.
Instead of poking the orange trees into the foam, I figured I'd just glue them over the grid where the lines cross.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717165958.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170015.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then used white glue and painted it over the entire area where the plastic bases were. I made sure not to get any glue into the holes in the center of the base.
I then spread some good old Florida sand over the white glue. I first prepped the sand. Here is how I prepped the sand.
The Judge and I went to a local school and I got a small bucket of sand from the fence line. I spread the sand out on a baking tray. I baked the sand @ 200 degrees for an hour. This process does several things. It removes the moisture, kills the weed seeds and any bugs that may be buried in the sand.
When dry and cool, I shifted the sand to remove any all junk, like stems, leaves, etc. and etc.
I then shifted the shifted sand to remove larger sand particles. I was left with very fine sand.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170030.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010717170030.jpeg)
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More later this afternoon. I need to crop and load more pictures.
When I got the sand spread across the area I wet it with water and then added a liberal dose of matte medium.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143131.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143131.jpeg)
As the matte medium was drying I used a large screen sieve and "dusted" the area north, south, east and west along the line and over the holes in the plastic bases. I used WS earth for this.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143159.jpeg)
I did the same with a medium size sieve and this time I used the same sand. I tapped the edge of the sieve to get a "dusting" of the sand over the WS earth.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143213.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143213.jpeg)
More in a few.
The areas between the orange trees are kept weed free but not so under the tree itself. I used a mix of scenic material to add weeds around the bottom of the tree bases.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143227.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143227.jpeg)
When the sand and weeds were dry I started adding the trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143242.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143242.jpeg)
More in a few.
I've never had a snow ball fight and I'm guessing my northern forum friends never had an orange fight.
Growing up in Central Florida in the late 40's to early 60's, a good size orange grove was within walking or biking distance.
Orange fights can hurt, be stinky and very sticky. Tangerine fights were the preferred fruit of the girls as the tangerines were much softer. Yes, the neighborhood girls also participated.
To get a black eye from an orange was like a badge of courage. A large whelp was also a gold star as you got one of those if you got hit in the chest or back with a hard grapefruit.
I always tried to find an orange on the ground that was partially rotten with green mold growing on it. This left the victim with a smelly and sticky juice.
We all had a great time and ended the fight with eating many oranges. We would peal the skin back or take a bite out of the top. We then squeezed the orange to get the juice. We all went home with a red rash around our mouths from the citric acid from the orange peel.
Ah, the good old days.
Okay, the tree planting continues.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg)
I've planted 48 orange trees and have 32 more to plant.
More in a few.
It appears this small grove is ready for an orange fight as the oranges are starting to fall on the ground.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143326.jpeg)
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I'll post more tomorrow evening.
I am a transplant from the cold north, Michigan to be exact, and I have been in many a snowball fight. We moved here (Orlando) in 1961 and built our house in the tail end of a Grove. We had 22 Citrus trees in our backyard, Orange, Tangerine, and Grapefruit. and I do remember the kids having Orange fights. There were a lot of Bumps, Whelps, and sticky, stinky kids to clean up.
Ah........the good old days (not)
Jim
Looks like the oranges are ready for picking and then selling them at the fruit stand nearby. I helped in the demise of some orange groves in the eastern part of Phoenix in the early 80's building new freeways in the area.
Where I grew up in California, we had rock fights since there were no fruit trees around and now snow. I had my share of stiches.
The new scenery is looking very good.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 02, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
I've never had a snow ball fight and I'm guessing my northern forum friends never had an orange fight.
Growing up in Central Florida in the late 40's to early 60's, a good size orange grove was within walking or biking distance.
Orange fights can hurt, be stinky and very sticky. Tangerine fights were the preferred fruit of the girls as the tangerines were much softer. Yes, the neighborhood girls also participated.
To get a black eye from an orange was like a badge of courage. A large whelp was also a gold star as you got one of those if you got hit in the chest or back with a hard grapefruit.
I always tried to find an orange on the ground that was partially rotten with green mold growing on it. This left the victim with a smelly and sticky juice.
We all had a great time and ended the fight with eating many oranges. We would peal the skin back or take a bite out of the top. We then squeezed the orange to get the juice. We all went home with a red rash around our mouths from the citric acid from the orange peel.
Ah, the good old days.
Okay, the tree planting continues.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143257.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020717143311.jpeg)
I've planted 48 orange trees and have 32 more to plant.
More in a few.
My swamp filled layout friend,
I guess I'm lucky. I've been fortunate enough to have both rotten orange and snowball fights along with rotten apple fights and on the farm even a couple dead mouse fights. ha. 8) Thanks for the trip down memory lane T. Thanx Thom... Oh almost forgot the basic learning curve water balloon fights and the slightly more advanced paintball fights, but always tried to avoid the ever popular political Left/Right fights!
That orange grove looks great! Good trick to plan the tree bases in the pattern!
dave
Truly a thing of beauty. You sir are a artist.
Quote from: jimmillho on July 02, 2017, 08:29:47 PM
I am a transplant from the cold north, Michigan to be exact, and I have been in many a snowball fight. We moved here (Orlando) in 1961 and built our house in the tail end of a Grove. We had 22 Citrus trees in our backyard, Orange, Tangerine, and Grapefruit. and I do remember the kids having Orange fights. There were a lot of Bumps, Whelps, and sticky, stinky kids to clean up.
Ah........the good old days (not)
Jim
Jim,
Thanks for stopping by and you know those WERE the good old day! I'd gladly go back and do it all over again.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 02, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Looks like the oranges are ready for picking and then selling them at the fruit stand nearby. I helped in the demise of some orange groves in the eastern part of Phoenix in the early 80's building new freeways in the area.
Where I grew up in California, we had rock fights since there were no fruit trees around and now snow. I had my share of stiches.
The new scenery is looking very good.
Steve,
Thank you for the kind words.
It has been estimated that Central Florida alone has lost more than two hundred thousand acres of citrus groves due to roadways and humanoid expansion. Very sad indeed.
Tom ;D
Thom,
You are lucky. You got to throw everything and probably the kitchen sink as well.
No politics here. It just makes me madder than Hell.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 03, 2017, 09:04:44 AM
That orange grove looks great! Good trick to plan the tree bases in the pattern!
dave
Dave,
Thank you, very much appreciated. I got lucky on the idea of using the plastic bases for planting the trees.
Tom ;D
Curt,
Very much appreciate the compliment. Have you been talking to my mother again? ;D ;D ;D
She used to tell me that when I couldn't keep the crayon inside the lines.
Tom ;D
Over the past several days I also installed a fence around the grove area and farm land.
I started by using the tooth picks without cutting them to length. I poured some Hunterline A&I Medium Brown stain in a small jar. Fifty toothpicks were put in the bottle for 20 minutes.
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I labeled the jar so I would know what was in it. If not, in a few days I would have no clue.
After twenty minutes I removed the toothpicks, er, I mean fence posts. I let them dry on a paper towel for an hour.
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I pushed the fence posts into the foam and used a small level to make sure they were all level. The posts are 4 HO scale feet in height and spaced 8 scale feet apart.
They kind of look like the start of Trump's wall. 8)
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Once the fence posts holes was dug, I used my little hammer to pound them into the ground/foam. The little hammer is the only tool I have left out of my "Handy Andy" tool set from 1950.
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I'm getting there.
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Fence posts are now in place.
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I used tan thread for the barbed wire.
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Fence barbed wire finished. I stained the thread with Hunterline Rust.
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I decided to run a fence line down the front of the orange grove. I used 22 fence posts and only added them to the edge of the current grove. I'll continue the fence once the rest of the orange trees are installed.
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Fence posts are installed and barbed wire is added and stained.
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In all the groves I've been in, both legally and illegally, I've never seen the fence line void of weeds. Time to add weeds to this fence line.
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Diet Pepsi time folks.
Here are a few extra pictures of the orange grove just north of Baker's Curve.
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Beautiful job Tom.
Looking great Tom.
Tom,
You have been making progress!
I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again hell bent on the layout. It is also good to read that you will not be receiving bus loads of observers, only SUV loads, as long as there are not convoys of SUVs you should be in good shape. I could vision the unimaginable, a bus load showing up (30 or, so bodies) and the wet floor of the layout that you would endure after the 1st group was finished and 2nd group of observers came in from the pool. Scary isn't it? Maybe you should set out complimentary towels.
Your progress considering some of the setbacks you have encountered is very impressive. Your step by step has been and continues to be beneficial to all that follow. The grove reflects the time frame of the layout, well manicured rows of pruned trees, limited debris under the trees and a property line. You mentioned the reduction of groves due to development and such, don't forget the state government imposing restrictions known as Citrus Kanker. That was the excuse they used to eliminate personal trees on ones property. The state can't make money if you have your own tree! Your depiction is well before the 80s and it reflects it.
One criticism, there is always one with me. Even though there was strict attention to detail in the layouts era I do believe there would be an accumulation of pruned branches and possibly tree trunks deposited along the fence line to the left of the grove. The grove illustrates the picking season, so maybe there would be something on the fence line and maybe not. It might be the possibility for a mini-scene of workers collecting the prunings along the fence. Remember the "grove trucks" no cab, no fenders, maybe a hood, and the seat and steering wheel were out in the open? That would be unique, now that would be a build for Dan.
Anyway, glad to read your health is good as well as the health of the layout. It is looking very nice, your observers will be very impressed.
Bob
Tom,
There is something strange about posting from here. Once again a second post.
You have been making progress!
I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again [/size]hell bent on the layout. It is also good to read that you will not be receiving bus loads of observers, only SUV loads, as long as there are not convoys of SUVs you should be in good shape. I could vision the unimaginable, a bus load showing up (30 or, so bodies) and the wet floor of the layout that you would endure after the 1st group was finished and 2nd group of observers came in from the pool. Scary isn't it? Maybe you should set out complimentary towels.
[/size]Your progress considering some of the setbacks you have encountered is very impressive. Your step by step has been and continues to be beneficial to all that follow. The grove reflects the time frame of the layout, well manicured rows of pruned trees, limited debris under the trees and a property line. You mentioned the reduction of groves due to development and such, don't forget the state government imposing restrictions known as Citrus Kanker. That was the excuse they used to eliminate personal trees on ones property. The state can't make money if you have your own tree! Your depiction is well before the 80s and it reflects it.
[/size]One criticism, there is always one with me. Even though there was strict attention to detail in the layouts era I do believe there would be an accumulation of pruned branches and possibly tree trunks deposited along the fence line to the left of the grove. The grove illustrates the picking season, so maybe there would be something on the fence line and maybe not. It might be the possibility for a mini-scene of workers collecting the prunings along the fence. Remember the "grove trucks" no cab, no fenders, maybe a hood, and the seat and steering wheel were out in the open? That would be unique, now that would be a build for Dan.
[/size]Anyway, glad to read your health is good as well as the health of the layout. It is looking very nice, your observers will be very impressed.
Bob
Quote from: MAP on July 04, 2017, 06:00:41 AM
Looking great Tom.
Mark,
Thanks very much.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on July 04, 2017, 06:10:07 AM
Tom,
You have been making progress!
I take off for a month or better traveling the peninsula and it takes me a dozen or more pages to catch up to the present. I am glad to read that you are devoid of all follow up problems from your procedures and that you are once again
Bob
Bob,
I appreciate you checking in on the thread. Yes, I've been busy, very busy in fact.
The main surgery in January and the two follow up surgeries have been more of an inconvenience than anything. All together, they set me back a good three months worth of layout work.
I'm not complaining as I didn't require any Chemo or Radiation for the cancer. A Lymphnodeectomy or lymph node dissection showed no cancer spread to that area. So, in the grand scheme of things, I'm still very healthy, just minus a prostate.
Staying positive through the entire process was a bonus for me. Fantastic family and friends made the experience a smooth few months.
Tom ;D
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 04, 2017, 08:44:37 AM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)
Greg,
The more trees for juice the better.
Tom ;D
Wow! :o This is looking absolutely splendid!! :D :D :D I'm working on a small item for you that I need to drop off one of these days. The only hint I'll give is it's not a structure nor is it a vehicle. ;)
Tom - Seems to me when we used to "borrow" oranges from local groves to throw at our buddies, there was always a tree or two in the grove that had died and had bare branches. Of course this was long before citrus canker, so the dead trees probably died from old age. If the grove on your A&S RR is a "new" grove, there would be no dead trees.
I really like the "weeds" under the trees.
Wow , Tom. I miss a few days on your thread and you have orange trees growing and producing oranges already. Very nice work!
Tom you went out and did it again!! Just Marvelous stuff.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 04, 2017, 08:44:37 AM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)
Greg,
The more trees for juice the better.
Tom ;D
Mo trees is here..... ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 04, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
Wow! :o This is looking absolutely splendid!! :D :D :D I'm working on a small item for you that I need to drop off one of these days. The only hint I'll give is it's not a structure nor is it a vehicle. ;)
Bob,
Thank you kind sir. This area has been a lot of fun getting the scenery in place. I'm curious about this small item you have.
I'll give you a call, maybe you can come down Saturday for some much needed BBQ from the Bones.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on July 04, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
Tom - Seems to me when we used to "borrow" oranges from local groves to throw at our buddies, there was always a tree or two in the grove that had died and had bare branches. Of course this was long before citrus canker, so the dead trees probably died from old age. If the grove on your A&S RR is a "new" grove, there would be no dead trees.
I really like the "weeds" under the trees.
Judge,
The orange grove at Perkins' Farm is very well maintained. It gives them a modest income so they can't afford to let any of the trees go to ruin. Farmer Perkins is in the grove on a daily basis.
Heck, I bet the old Mrs. Perkins has a small garden.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 04, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Wow , Tom. I miss a few days on your thread and you have orange trees growing and producing oranges already. Very nice work!
John,
Thank you, much appreciated. My grandson is 16 so those days of staying with Gippop and running trains are long gone. It gives me that time to myself and the layout. I have 32 more tress going in the grove.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on July 05, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
Tom you went out and did it again!! Just Marvelous stuff.
Donato,
Very much appreciate your comment. This project has been fun but I do apologize, I just can't help myself.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 05, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 04, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 04, 2017, 08:44:37 AM
Looking good Tom, more orange trees here tomorrow..... 8)
Greg,
The more trees for juice the better.
Tom ;D
Mo trees is here..... ;D
Greg,
Great, my Babe and I will be up tomorrow late morning. Be sure you don't squeeze any juice out of the oranges.
Tom ;D
As much fun as I've been having on the scenery, something has been bothering me for a month or so.
Scenic Express obviously sells hundreds of different items. One of the products I've been using with my scenery is the Flock & Turf. I use Item #EX882C. The "C" simply refers to the fact that it's in the 64 oz. bottle. Yes, I buy it in bulk.
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Anyway, this is the same product and item number I purchase from them last year. The problem I have with SE is that they changed the contents every so slightly. The silfor filler is 2mm instead of the 4mm they had in last years batch. Also, they added some brown foam. I dislike very much the brown foam look.
And the green foam chunks are a little larger as well. Here is a close up of the Flock & Turf in the plastic jar.
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More in a few.
I decided to try and separate the silfor filler and the green and brown chunks.
I put some of the stuff in my large tea strainer.
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I rubbed my finger around the inside of the strainer. This allowed the 2mm silfor to fall through the screen with some other small scenery material.
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Now I can blend the finer separated material with smaller grass blends.
My idea worked this time.
It is officially official now. I have my own little yard sign.
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I forgot to mention that my last post gave me picture number 3300. That is a whole bunch of cropping. :o :o
I know all the people will be blown away with your layout that visit it.
I think the NMRA people are going to be shocked to see what one person can accomplish.
Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 05, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
I know all the people will be blown away with your layout that visit it.
Curt,
I'm looking forward to any visitors who come by and hope they like what I've done.
Thanks for the thumbs up! ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 05, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
I think the NMRA people are going to be shocked to see what one person can accomplish.
Jim
Jim,
Doug Bowman, Chairman of the NMRA layout tour, came by the other night to see the layout and drop off the NMRA yard sign.
He was shocked at the scenery. He said the pictures just don't do the layout justice and he wasn't prepared to see how it all looks in person. I hope all the rest of the visitors are pleased with what I've done as well.
Tom ;D
Tom I'm catching up on this thread. Your orange Grove looks awesome and it still amazes me how your scenery and Joey's backgrounds work so well together to create a larger scene.
Hi Tom,
If any of your visitors don't like your scenery, there is something wrong with them. Your scenery is absolutely amazing.
Quote from: Raymo on July 07, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
Tom I'm catching up on this thread. Your orange Grove looks awesome and it still amazes me how your scenery and Joey's backgrounds work so well together to create a larger scene.
Dan,
Thanks very much for the compliment on the scenery and grove. Joey's photo background sure make the scenery look good. Best decision and purchase I've made for the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 07, 2017, 10:29:44 PM
Hi Tom,
If any of your visitors don't like your scenery, there is something wrong with them. Your scenery is absolutely amazing.
Steve,
Thanks very much. Four weeks from today I'll have an answer.
Tom ;D
I finished the orange grove yesterday. I prepped the ground same as the other half. I took the photos so ya'll have to see it all over again. ;D ;D
The plastic bases were glued in place, white glue painted over the area and sand was smoothed out over the glue.
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The sand was wet with wet water and saturated with matte medium.
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As it was drying I sprinkled on more earth and sand. Weeds were also added as on the other section.
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Early this morning I added the other 32 orange trees. I also added 32 new fence posts. The fence posts were carried down to where the road will cross the track. 32 trees and 32 posts, numbers are a funny thing.
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I still need to add the barbed wire and more weeds along the fence line.
I've been waiting to use my old farm buildings and old wind mill. I've had these boxed for the past 12 years.
Here is my kit bash SS Ltd. wind mill. It won't necessarily be located where it is in the photo.
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Here is the Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. I used George Sellios' white farm house as my source.
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Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
I wanted to get the track started from the south end to the center portion of the second level.
This track comes off the #8 left hand curved turnout located behind the small lubritorium building. This trackage will only be used with freight trains. There is a short section of 30" radius curve track leading into a ME #6 left hand turnout. The curved section is 32" radius.
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Did I ever mention that level is a good thing when it comes to trackwork?
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The spur will be used to service the structure in the photo.
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Hi Tom.....it looks like you're coming around the Bend at Baker's Curve......good progress. 8)
Or would that be going around the bend? ;D ;D ;D
This is my very poor and first attempt to copy one of George Sellios' structures. I saw a photo of this on Ebay about 24+ years ago and decided to copy it.
You will recognize it as the Chippy Hollow Hardware Co. - Kit #260, released in 1989 for $180.00.
I copied the metal side size and made the structure clapboard. I bought a box of Chippy Hollow casting off Ebay for $4.50. You'd probably pay $75.00+ today.
Anyway, I made many mistakes on this model. It maybe doesn't look like it but I know where they all are.
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I'm going to use it as is anyway.
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 08, 2017, 05:01:15 PM
Hi Tom.....it looks like you're coming around the Bend at Baker's Curve......good progress. 8)
Or would that be going around the bend? ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Thanks very much. I would say both, be it coming around or going around the bend. ??? ???
Tom ;D
You've seen me staring at that one. It's definitely one of my favorites in your collection. I was hoping you were NOT going to use it ;) .
Your layout is coming along beautifully. I'm in New Smyrna working on mine today.
John
Beautiful work Tom. I love the Orchard.
Quote from: Cuse on July 08, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
You've seen me staring at that one. It's definitely one of my favorites in your collection. I was hoping you were NOT going to use it ;) .
Your layout is coming along beautifully. I'm in New Smyrna working on mine today.
John
John,
Yes, you have been staring at this one for several years now. Sorry, it just seems to fit here. First time in 15 years is looked good anywhere on the layout.
Thanks for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 08, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
Beautiful work Tom. I love the Orchard.
Curt,
Thanks very much sir. The grove turned out better than I hoped. It's always a bit of guess work in using a commercial tree from WS. These are some of their best. The good news is that I didn't have to rebuild them.
Tom ;D
I've been very busy on the layout work and scenery. I've planted more than 60 trees since Saturday afternoon.
I was looking at all the different materials and shades of green and brown in making the trees. I even have a very little orange in one of the mixes.
I'll get all the material together in one picture. Well, maybe two pictures but you will be amazed.
I'll put the photo up later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
We will anxiously await. Enjoying following your thread. Jim
ACL 1504,
Had a little time between all the hammering, thought I'd stop by and see what's cookin'. Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. Wow! Damn nice job. That's going to be another good scene among many on your AS.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 08, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
This is my very poor and first attempt to copy one of George Sellios' structures. I saw a photo of this on Ebay about 24+ years ago and decided to copy it.
You will recognize it as the Chippy Hollow Hardware Co. - Kit #260, released in 1989 for $180.00.
I copied the metal side size and made the structure clapboard. I bought a box of Chippy Hollow casting off Ebay for $4.50. You'd probably pay $75.00+ today.
Anyway, I made many mistakes on this model. It maybe doesn't look like it but I know where they all are.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080717162748.jpeg)
I'm going to use it as is anyway.
Mistakes? What mistakes? I don't see no stinkin' mistakes! Oh wait, I see! You forgot to scenic the plywood, right? ;D Stay healthy, give momma plenty of nichols for long shopping days and keep modeling your AS on time! Thanx Thom...
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on July 11, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
We will anxiously await. Enjoying following your thread. Jim
Jim,
I'm anxious to add to the post this afternoon or early evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 11, 2017, 08:54:22 AM
ACL 1504,
Had a little time between all the hammering, thought I'd stop by and see what's cookin'. Simeon Perkins scratch built farm house. Wow! Damn nice job. That's going to be another good scene among many on your AS.
Mistakes? What mistakes? I don't see no stinkin' mistakes! Oh wait, I see! You forgot to scenic the plywood, right? ;D Stay healthy, give momma plenty of nichols for long shopping days and keep modeling your AS on time! Thanx Thom...
Trust me grasshopper, they are there.
Momma is way past the nickel stag, she's moved on to the $ shopping. :'( :'(
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.
Tom 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.
Tom 8)
Slow down son.....scenery defined as dirt, bushes, trees, grass, etc. along the AS right-of-way. ::)
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 11, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
You got to give ole' Tom credit.....he sure has a very scenic AS..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
I'll make sure we have others in the room when you are here next time. If you notice my Scenic AS, maybe you should ----well, never mind.
Tom 8)
Slow down son.....scenery defined as dirt, bushes, trees, grass, etc. along the AS right-of-way. ::)
Okay, I thought you were referring to my AS. It was the other AS you were referring to. My bad, in the gutter again. 8)
Tom ???
Trees, trees and more trees. When I was adding foliage to the trees I was trying to keep them separated by size, shape and like colors.
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It didn't take long to figure out I didn't have enough space to do what I intended. Once the two boxes were filled, I grabbed any open container I could find to put trees.
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I gave up and just put them where I found a space.
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I had plenty of broken trees and parts of trees. I added foliage to these also as they can be used for bushes, undergrowth and etc.. I had two boxes of tree parts when finished.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111006.jpeg)
More in a few.
When I finished adding all the foliage to the trees, I was very much surprised how many different colors and textures were used.
Here is a photo list of all the material I used for the tree foliage.
Some of these were used on a single tree and most of them were combined in some fashion to get the color and texture necessary for different tree foliage.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111036.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111050.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111103.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111103.jpeg)
I have no idea where or when I got the little bag of bright green stuff but it mixed well with other colors to give me yet a different appearing tree.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111119.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111135.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111135.jpeg)
Noch color left to right.
Dark Green Leaf
Medium Green Leaf
Light Green Leaf
Fall Leaf - used just a pinch to give a little brown in the colors.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111149.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111149.jpeg)
And the glue to hold it all in place -
Pantene hair spray. It was on sale at Walgreens, buy one get one for $2.00 each.
I got two different to try and they both work as well as the other.
Of course I sprayed the bare tree and then used Hal's Turbo Tree machine to add the foliage.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111204.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110717111204.jpeg)
I added the bushes for the transition from the actual scenery to the photo backdrop.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160627.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160627.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160642.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then started adding trees. When adding trees I don't secure them in place. I'll add 6 to 12 trees to an area and then sit back and think about how they look. If I like the look, I'll leave them. Sometimes I'll remove all of them and start over.
I know nature doesn't work this way but on a scale layout, they do need to look natural. Just my thinking anyway. It's work out so far. The negative side of doing this is that it takes me quite a bit longer to get my forest of trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160711.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160711.jpeg)
While I was letting the trees grow on my, pun here, I added the fence posts as seen in the above picture and below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160725.jpeg)
More in a few.
In this next photo, I changed a few of the trees. I like this look much better. I also added some clump foliage under most of the trees but not all.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160745.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160802.jpeg)
More in a few.
I also added more of the fence in front of the farm area, added a few bushes and trees on each side of the sand hills.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160821.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160821.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160838.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100717160838.jpeg)
More tomorrow evening, I hope. I have many areas where I'm waiting for the matte medium to dry.
Great trees Tom , it all looks quite natural.
Will the hairspray hold in the long run?
Quote from: Janbouli on July 11, 2017, 06:32:35 PM
Great trees Tom , it all looks quite natural.
Will the hairspray hold in the long run?
Jan,
Thank you, much appreciated.
Yes, the hair spray, at least this hair spray, will hold over time. It also depends on how much you spray on. I just try to get a good even coat all around the tree.
The trees you see in the scenes below are from my old layout. They were made about 6-7 years ago and then in boxes for almost three years prior to replanting in the corners.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051116191752.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051116191752.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130616160045.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130616160045.jpeg)
Very little loss of foliage.
WOW!
Outstanding modeling Tom.
WOW.....I did not realize how high the sand hills were. Almost looks like a cut between the mountains.
Jim
wow. What a great and unusual scene. Nice work!
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 11, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Outstanding modeling Tom.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 11, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
WOW.....I did not realize how high the sand hills were. Almost looks like a cut between the mountains.
Jim
Jim,
The photo makes them look higher than they actually are. When a loco passes in the area, the top of the loco is higher then the top of the sand hill. Optical illusion in the photo.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
wow. What a great and unusual scene. Nice work!
John,
Thank you, much appreciated. I'm trying to make each section look much different than the others and every other layout in the world.
Tom ;D
I added the dirt to the south end sand hill.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184603.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184603.jpeg)
When dry I added the first layer of base scenery to the top.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184704.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184704.jpeg)
More in a few.
While the scenery material in the previous photo was drying, I added the barbed wire to the fence posts in the corner section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184617.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184617.jpeg)
I used Hunterline's Medium Brown and stained the thread/barbed wire.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184800.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then dug several post holes and started to add the fence posts to the right side of the farm area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184634.jpeg)
I carried the posts into the corner as this was the edge of the Perkins Farm property.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184649.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184649.jpeg)
More in a few.
After several hours, I added the second and third layers of scenery material to the south end.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184815.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184828.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184828.jpeg)
I then applied matte medium to the scenery and let it dry.
More in a few.
I then moved back to the Perkins Farm and set the fence posts. Once the posts were set, I added the barbed wire and stain.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184745.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184842.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184842.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time. Back in a few.
I don't remember if it was John Armstrong or Linn Wescott who first demonstrated how to cut in a turnout using the Midwest Cork Roadbed.
Any how, I still use that method after some 45+ years.
Adding the roadbed correctly will go along way to smoother running trains and looks much more professional than installing it any which way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717192128.jpeg)
I'll add more of the scenery updates tomorrow evening.
Tom
This is some very fine modeling. I enjoyed getting caught up with your thread this evening. Thanks for sharing all the details - they really make your thread fun to read.
Tom, your modeling is always top notch and sets the standard for the rest of us.
Quote from: S&S RR on July 12, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
Tom
This is some very fine modeling. I enjoyed getting caught up with your thread this evening. Thanks for sharing all the details - they really make your thread fun to read.
John,
Thank you my friend for the very kind compliment. I'm glad you are following along. This scenery sure has been fun to do.
More this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 12, 2017, 07:44:51 PM
Tom, your modeling is always top notch and sets the standard for the rest of us.
Curt,
I do appreciate the very kind compliment. It has been a challenge and fun in doing the scenery.
I'll have more scenery pictures later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 12, 2017, 07:19:57 PM
I don't remember if it was John Armstrong or Linn Wescott who first demonstrated how to cut in a turnout using the Midwest Cork Roadbed.
Any how, I still use that method after some 45+ years.
Adding the roadbed correctly will go along way to smoother running trains and looks much more professional than installing it any which way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717192128.jpeg)
I'll add more of the scenery updates tomorrow evening.
ACL 1504,
As a forum member and a member of the modeling community. I read & hear articles, comments, forum posts and even videos all stating how modelers today fact overwhelming changes of time & money when modeling a layout or diorama.
Well let me be (if not the first), but at least the next one to say
Thank You for explaining, showing & demonstrating tried & true staple techniques on track & switch installations (with respect to proper setup).
You convey a proper & professional product (i.e.-this thread). I appreciate the time & money you've taken to explain to myself and others how to in fact save both time & money modeling something as important as a simple switch install.
It's a real shame when I see others spend their time & money building & demonstrating their layout installs whilst wasting my time & money buying or viewing how not to build a layout properly the first time.
You are a true inspirational modeler and I get it! When I follow your example to do modeling, your drilled message hits on target and it makes me stop & think of how I can save time & money doing it right instead of having to go back and keep redoing it in the future where time & money are truly becoming harder to collect.
I hope readers are reading between the lines here and see the real point. Mr. Robo Cop, keep working your AS on down the line. I'm all eyes! KP-out...
Thom AKA: KP
Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?
I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.
Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.
Tom AKA :KPII
I added the fence corner bracing. The ends of the braces have been touched up with A&I.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185132.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185132.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185146.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185146.jpeg)
More in a few.
All the trees are now in place on the south end of the layout. The wet areas at the bottom of the sand hill is matte medium. It will dry clear.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184908.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185031.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185031.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185017.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185002.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185044.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717185044.jpeg)
Here are a few photos of the underbrush in the south end trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184854.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184854.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184921.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184948.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184948.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184935.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120717184935.jpeg)
Nice shrubberies, Tom!!
dave
Fabulous Tom.
Tom,
What else can I say, your scenery is great. I like how your trees blend with the backdrop and your use of different kinds of trees.
When my wife and I were in New England several weeks ago, I was paying particular attention to the trees, because I am from the West and don't have trees like the East does, and they are different species of trees growing amongst each other.
Looks great Tom.
Dave,
Thank you, much appreciated. Thank you also for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 13, 2017, 10:02:41 PM
Tom,
What else can I say, your scenery is great. I like how your trees blend with the backdrop and your use of different kinds of trees.
When my wife and I were in New England several weeks ago, I was paying particular attention to the trees, because I am from the West and don't have trees like the East does, and they are different species of trees growing amongst each other.
Steve,
Thank you, much appreciated. Joey's photo backdrops really help in the blending process. When I decided to add the piney woods, I looked at all the roadway trees I could while driving.
My wife said, one of these days you should also pay attention to the traffic around you. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on July 14, 2017, 06:08:23 AM
Looks great Tom.
Mark,
Thanks very much sir.
Tom ;D
Reminds me of the Woods on my Uncle's farm in Michigan. I could almost get lost in them.
Jim
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 03:05:12 PM
Thom AKA: KP
Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?
I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.
Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.
Tom AKA :KPII
Tom,
As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir! Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 12:04:31 PM
Tom,
As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir! Thanx Thom...
Perfect
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on July 14, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
Reminds me of the Woods on my Uncle's farm in Michigan. I could almost get lost in them.
Jim
Jim,
These woods are all over America. I spent many weekends of my youth camping in the woods.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 13, 2017, 03:05:12 PM
Thom AKA: KP
Are you sure my mother didn't put you up to posting that?
I sincerely thank you very much for the kind and thought provoking compliment. I'm not sure I deserve all the encomium as I'm still learning as I build along.
Again, I appreciate your kind support of my work.
Tom AKA :KPII
Tom,
As one ferroequinologist to another, you are welcome sir! Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.
Tom ;D
I have something special to share with everyone but don't have the pictures ready yet. Hopefully I'll be able to share this news tomorrow.
It's a new technique in building scenery. I certainly can't take credit for it but I do intend to learn how to do it.
Okay, I'll get on this tomorrow. In the mean time, I'll share what I've been doing on the A&S RR.
But first, I need to get a fresh Diet Pepsi and then I'll get started.
Tom ;D
Thom,
Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.
Tom ;D
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T~,
"Patois", hummm, you must have reached up deep to pull that one out! ha. I admit, I had to look that one up. (yup I used my paper Webster for that one). Tinx, I learned something new today. Reminds me of the old Bill O' Reilly's word of the day he used to post on his non-quiescent show.
Oh can't wait for the special news announcement. I know it's not a boy or girl. ;D Thanx Thom...
Prior to adding more scenery to the farm area, I wanted to go ahead and build a wood deck bridge. This bridge will allow farmer Perkins to cross the track to his farm.
The bridge will be placed here, between the fence posts and the foreground side of the sand hill.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717172853.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717172853.jpeg)
Back in a few. Got side tracked and forgot the Diet Pepsi.
Quote from: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 05:27:04 PM
Thom,
Then I think it is very safe to say we have a patois going among us forum folks.
Tom ;D
T~,
"Patois", hummm, you must have reached up deep to pull that one out! ha. I admit, I had to look that one up. (yup I used my paper Webster for that one). Tinx, I learned something new today. Reminds me of the old Bill O' Reilly's word of the day he used to post on his non-quiescent show.
Oh can't wait for the special news announcement. I know it's not a boy or girl. ;D Thanx Thom...
Thom,
I did in fact learn the word from Mr. O'Reilly's show. Although I understand why he was fired, I still miss the show.
Webster's definition of PATOIS is some what misleading. But for you and me it simply implies we have a common language spoken between those with a common interest.
Tom ;D
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.
Here is the one from the old, old layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)
This new one won't be as high as the old one.
More in a few.
Here is the old wood vehicle bridge I re-engineered into a coal dump ramp.
The coal dump was used on my old layout, the one prior to this current and last one.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170815.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170829.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is the coal dump ramp on the old layout. The loco on the siding was used as a helper for the tunnel grade.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174806.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174806.jpeg)
More in a few.
I started by using four posts/bents just a little narrower than the area between the fence posts. I glued a top cap to the four posts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170855.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170855.jpeg)
I added one horizontal brace at the bottom and two traverse braces on each side.
I removed some scenery from the base so it would fit flush on the plywood base.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170939.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170939.jpeg)
More in a few.
After building one, I placed it on the layout to make sure it was the correct height even though I previously measured the height.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170910.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170910.jpeg)
The bridge is a very simple design but effective. Did I ever mention level is good?
Satisfied with this one, I built the other one.
I made sure the locos and cars would fit under and through the bridge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170924.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170924.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.
Here is the one from the old, old layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)
This new one won't be as high as the old one.
More in a few.
ACL 1504,
I hope no one watching mistakes this fabulous bridge you built as George's. Damn, wait till GS see's this pic. ha. He'll think you posted one of his pictures as your own. ha. nice modeling my friend. Nice indeed! Thanx Thom...
I forgot to mention one important fact.
Reading Bob made me a gift of one of those fancy A&I staining tubes. I got to use it to stain the HO scale wood used in this bridge build.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170800.jpeg)
I'm not showing the actual staining bath process as it has been shown and discussed on many other threads. Shakespeare's Hamlet said, "Brevity is the soul of wit". So, no extra narrative on staining the wood. 8) 8) 8)
I will add the stain was Hunterline Medium Brown A&I.
More in a few.
Quote from: tct855 on July 14, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.
Here is the one from the old, old layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)
This new one won't be as high as the old one.
More in a few.
ACL 1504,
I hope no one watching mistakes this fabulous bridge you built as George's. Damn, wait till GS see's this pic. ha. He'll think you posted one of his pictures as your own. ha. nice modeling my friend. Nice indeed! Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you, much appreciated. Truth be known, I was so impressed with George's wooden planked bridge, I used it as my inspiration for the one in this picture.
No mistaking this one for the very fine one on George's layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717181340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717181340.jpeg)
Tom
The columns/bents on the bridge are HO scale 10X10s, the bracing used are 2X6's and the cap is also scale 10X10 lumber.
I used scale 8X8's for the common bridge spans which will support the decking.
Here I used two 8X8's to align the bridge supports with the fence posts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170955.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170955.jpeg)
My level bubble is not dead center but it is within the lines. I can and will live with this.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171009.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171009.jpeg)
More in a few.
You can see the bridge support structure is slightly off center from each other. It will be a little tricksie in aligning the decking but not impossible.
I used a weight to hold the two supports in place while I marked the location on the plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171022.jpeg)
After marking the location, I tacked the supports in place. As the glue dried I made sure they were set at 90 degrees to the track. Once the glue was dry, I added the common deck supports and glued them to the caps over the four bents. I let this dry over night.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171043.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171043.jpeg)
More in a few.
I made one final test to ensure it all was correctly aligned.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171112.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171112.jpeg)
The next day I made sure it was all square and nothing shifted during the night.
Did I ever mention level is a good sign things are done correctly. No corners were cut or abused in the making of this bridge. 8) 8)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171126.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171126.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used a #17 Xacto blade to slip under the outside bents and cut through the "tacked" glue.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171142.jpeg)
Once removed from the layout, I placed the bridge on the workbench. I used the angle weights from Micro Mark and again made sure the supports and top caps were all at a 90 degree angle.
It was only slightly out of square. I added a little more glue to the underside and reset the angles. You can see the fresh glue on the underside. When dry the glue won't be seen from the top.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171155.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717171155.jpeg)
I used two small Irwin Quick Grips to hold the supports against the weights. No picture here, I forgot to take one.
I'll have an update on the bridge in a couple of days.
Great work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.
I think I'd run the Zephyr thru there to make sure the cars clear the bridge. :)
Jeff
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 14, 2017, 07:50:12 PM
Great work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.
Curt,
Thank you. You will soon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 14, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
I think I'd run the Zephyr thru there to make sure the cars clear the bridge. :)
Jeff
Jeff,
The Walthers heavyweights, Budd cars and Zephyr dome cars all clear the bridge.
Tom ;D
SORCERY!! It just has to be. Only sorcery could make that scenery......
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Quote from: Donato on July 15, 2017, 01:30:33 PM
SORCERY!! It just has to be. Only sorcery could make that scenery......
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbE80_cFWlKhPmAZ7KmONFxeXhgSFW1PjwGgqEIwn0WPkWFTdW) (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbE80_cFWlKhPmAZ7KmONFxeXhgSFW1PjwGgqEIwn0WPkWFTdW)
Donato,
Thank you for the kind compliment.
I'll take the magic, send more of that blue flame. I need all the help I can conjure up. 8)
Tom ;D
The other day I was waiting for scenery to dry so I added more track to the stub. This track comes off the main line and starts the Tahope Division.
The radius is 32".
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185226.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130717185226.jpeg)
I previously painted the new road as you probably saw in previous photos. When it was dry I found that I had some sand stuck in the dried paint.
I used very fine wet/dry sand paper and smoothed the road. I'll repaint it later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717170746.jpeg)
To be continued later this afternoon.
Many many years ago I wanted to try and make the super trees more realistic. I heard where some modelers had some success using silicone to thicken the stems/trunks.
I gave it a try and after a few hours I was fairly pleased with the results. Not pleased enough to use all of them on the old layout. I did use two as foreground trees.
Working with the silicone was difficult in that it wanted to stick to everything, mainly my fingers and everything else. I kept a bowl of water handy and had to constantly drip my fingers in the water to get the silicone smoothed out.
To make this story short I only made six trees. As I mentioned, I only used two.
Here are some photos of the ones I made. Not to bad but not to good either.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717151951.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717151951.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152006.jpeg)
More in a few.
That last tree looks like it has some kind of dragon claw foot. ;D ;D ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152022.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152036.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152051.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152051.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152105.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152105.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152123.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi break time folks.
Tom,
Wow! I like those trees, those are really I eye catching. Thanks for sharing brother. Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
Tom,
Wow! I like those trees, those are really I eye catching. Thanks for sharing brother. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you but wait until you see the new trees I'm going to post in a few more minutes. My trees are nothing compared to the ones coming up my friend.
Tom ;D
I mentioned yesterday I learned a new way to improve scenery. It actually is improving the SE super trees.
My Babe and I visited with Bill and Kris Cutler yesterday. You will know them as Mr. and Mrs. PennsyJ1. You can view their wonderful layout here.
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-pennsy-six-miles-west-of-altoona-and-more/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-pennsy-six-miles-west-of-altoona-and-more/)
Kris was showing me some trees she made using what she referred to as mastic. My understanding is that mastic, caulk and/or silicone sealant are pretty much the same with different chemical compounds.
I'm just making a statement so I'm NOT asking some plastic pocket holder person to give me the differences. This is a model railroad forum and not a chemistry class.
More in a few.
ACL 1504,
I remember those model makin' fools from the wayback machine. They're good his wife is awesome at scenery. Can't wait to see what you learned T. Thanx Thom...
Kris has taken making super trees more super to a new level in my humble opinion.
She takes the mastic and uses a small piece of scale lumber to add/apply the material to the bottom of the super tree trunk. She lets it dry and then paints it a trunk color of her choice.
She recommends adding a little at a time as adding to much at one time greatly lengthens the drying time.
Kris was very gracious and humble about the quality of her work. I'm telling you these are the BEST super tress I've ever seen period. These are perfect foreground trees.
I was the recipient of several of these trees. I can't wait and try my hand at making some of my own. I'll be sharing the process, success or failure here on this thread at a much later time.
I'll be showing where I place the ones she gave me later as well.
The next twelve pictures are her new super trees and mastic trunks. The first picture is the over all tree followed by a close up of the trunk.
Let me know what you think.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152143.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152143.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152157.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152157.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152211.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152257.jpeg)
More in a few.
This tree was blown over by Hurricane Charlie.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152311.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152331.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152331.jpeg)
Here is a good view of how she built up the mastic around the thin trunk of the super tree.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152431.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152431.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152347.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152448.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is a small tree made from small single branches.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152501.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152514.jpeg)
More in a few.
Tom,
Wow, all of these are awesome! Man! Thom likes! Keep'em coming! T...
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152527.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152527.jpeg)
Aren't these wonderful super trees made even more super by Kris the tree arborist?
Quote from: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 04:31:08 PM
Tom,
Wow, all of these are awesome! Man! Thom likes! Keep'em coming! T...
Thom,
I agree 100%. I have more but they are pretty much the same. You get the idea though of how talented she is in making realistic trees.
Tom ;D
Yeah? I guess, If you like that sort of thing.
R.U. Kiddin', Very cool indeed. Thanks Mrs. Kris... :)
Quote from: tct855 on July 15, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
Yeah? I guess, If you like that sort of thing.
R.U. Kiddin', Very cool indeed. Thanks Mrs. Kris... :)
RU kidding me? You know I LOVE THIS SNIT!
Tom ;D
Great work Kris.....you too Tom. 8)
Best Trees I have seen since I looked out my window at the real thing.
Outstanding job Kris.
Jim
Kris does an awesome job on making trees. Tom, you are no slouch either. ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 15, 2017, 05:31:00 PM
Great work Kris.....you too Tom. 8)
Greg,
Thank you for commenting on Kris' beautiful trees.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 15, 2017, 08:21:09 PM
Best Trees I have seen since I looked out my window at the real thing.
Outstanding job Kris.
Jim
Jim,
I appreciate you following along and commenting on Kris' wonderful super trees.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 15, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
Kris does an awesome job on making trees. Tom, you are no slouch either. ;D
Curt,
Thanks for the two compliments, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
I finished the scratch built wood deck bridge this afternoon. I won't bore ya'll with a lot of narrative unless I want to explain why I did what I did.
I believe the pictures will give you the idea on how I built the bridge.
I added the deck support beams and used weights to hold it in place until the glue set, not dry.
The big glue gobs are for extra holding power while working on the bridge. Once finished, none of the dried glue will be visible.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152712.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152712.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150717152725.jpeg)
More in a few.
Once the glue set, I marked on the blue foam where the deck support beams ended. I then removed some of the blue foam, just enough to let the approach section of the bridge sit on the top of the foam.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164113.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164113.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164045.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164045.jpeg)
You can see now why I didn't want the glue to dry. I wanted to add the weights and let the bridge and beams dry in the position level with the foam not on top of it.
More in a few.
I also added 12X12 scale lumber beams for support at the top of each side of the sand hill for a little additional support.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164100.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164100.jpeg)
I used a metal square to mark where the scale 2X8 decking boards are placed. To make it look prototypical, the boards are set perpendicular to the the support beams.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164143.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164143.jpeg)
More in a few.
I glued the first HO scale 2X8 deck board in place. I then used an Emory board and rounded the edges of the support beams for a smoother area for the deck boards.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717170445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717170445.jpeg)
The 2X8's were added. I'm almost finished. There are a lot of deck boards.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164128.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164128.jpeg)
More in a few.
A total of 116 scale 2X8's were used for the decking.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164157.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164157.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164210.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164210.jpeg)
Continued after I find a cold Diet Pepsi.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164224.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164224.jpeg)
Traverse bracing was added under the deck.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164238.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164238.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164250.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164250.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164324.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164339.jpeg)
One side of the railing is finished.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164353.jpeg)
More in a few.
All done!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164409.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164451.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170717164451.jpeg)
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Those 'farm bridge' overpasses are more commonly seen than modeled, particularly in the 50s and earlier. Looks great!
dave
Dave,
Thank you, very much appreciated.
As a small boy, my father would take me downtown in Vandalia, IL and we would stand in the middle of the wood bridge and wait for the steam trains. The one we used had a pedestrian walkway on the sides. It was also in the early 50's.
When I was last in Vandalia, the old wood bridge was replaced with a concrete one. My mother was born in Vandalia, IL.
Tom ;D
Wow , you are good.
A good blend of dainty and rugged modelling. Good choice!
Tom, WOW, WOW, WOW. The bridge looks incredible. If I remember right your layout tours start later this week. I wish you all the best with the visitors.
Hi Tom:
Very nice bridge & scenery.
Karl
Great job Tom..... 8)
Love it! Great way to "break the train"...one of my favorite mini-scenes on the FSM...that one's a little roughed up though
John
The bridge is great......the scene fantastic. Nice work Tom!
The whole thing looks wonderful Tom! The bridge is a terrific addition to the scene.
I hope you found that stain tub useful. I think it speeds things up a bit.
Hi Tom,
The weathering on the bridge looks very good. The colors are just perfect.
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Tom,
Enjoy the pictorials as always my friend! Thanx Thom...
Hello everyone. I got knocked off the web for a couple of days and haven't posted to your comments. I'll do that later this afternoon/evening.
I also have some layout updates to share.
Tom ;D
Tom
The bridge looks great! It's amazing how life changes without the internet - even if just for a few days.
Quote from: S&S RR on July 20, 2017, 08:55:47 AM
Tom
The bridge looks great! It's amazing how life changes without the internet - even if just for a few days.
John,
You are correct. I first thought, OMG, what am I going to do! Then I realized I'd do the same thing I did as a kid, prior to TV, cell phones, girls, internet, filling the wood box and my mother making me pull sand spurs out of the yard for .10 an hour.
I'll work on the layout and then read for a while.
Tom ;D
Over the past few days I was able to get quite a bit done on the layout. Not big projects but just cleaning up some and finishing others.
I finally got the oil stains down on the corner gas station area.
I used Pan Pastels and their sponge for the stain.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175259.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175259.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175247.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175247.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is an overall view of the East side of the layout. From here to the end, South wall, is 34 feet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175104.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175131.jpeg)
More in a few.
I also added weeds down the middle of the tracks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175144.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175144.jpeg)
I just realized I need to paint the ties on the bridge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175206.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175206.jpeg)
More in a few.
Great. As usual. Jim
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175231.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175231.jpeg)
And now back looking back North.
Referring to the photo above you can also see I've done more work in the farm area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175118.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175118.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: jrmueller on July 20, 2017, 05:39:23 PM
Great. As usual. Jim
Jim,
Thank you, very much appreciated. I just remembered I didn't answer the others.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on July 17, 2017, 05:33:47 PM
Wow , you are good.
Jan,
Thank you for the compliment. Not sure how good I am but I'm getting lots and lots of practice.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on July 17, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
A good blend of dainty and rugged modelling. Good choice!
Marty,
I very much appreciate the compliment. Thank you sir.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 17, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Tom, WOW, WOW, WOW. The bridge looks incredible. If I remember right your layout tours start later this week. I wish you all the best with the visitors.
Curt,
Thank you as always for checking in, much appreciated. My open house is on August 5, 2017 from 9 AM top 5 PM.
If you get a chance, you are always welcome.
Tom
Quote from: postalkarl on July 17, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
Hi Tom:
Very nice bridge & scenery.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you my friend, very much appreciated. This was a fun build. A little tricksie but still fun.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 17, 2017, 08:34:51 PM
Love it! Great way to "break the train"...one of my favorite mini-scenes on the FSM...that one's a little roughed up though
John
John,
Thank you, I've been wanting to build another wood bridge crossover for quite some time. I love the scene of the wood deck bridge on George's layout. His inspired me to build mine.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on July 18, 2017, 05:57:58 AM
The bridge is great......the scene fantastic. Nice work Tom!
Mark,
Thank you for the kind compliment. I hope one day soon you'll be able to visit see the layout in person.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 18, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
The whole thing looks wonderful Tom! The bridge is a terrific addition to the scene.
I hope you found that stain tub useful. I think it speeds things up a bit.
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciate your support. I think the bridge ties the entire area together. The scene would be incomplete with it.
The stain tub was just what the doctor ordered. It saved a lot of time for sure. Thank You.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 18, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
Hi Tom,
The weathering on the bridge looks very good. The colors are just perfect.
Steve,
Your kind compliment is much appreciated. Thank you sir. I'm very pleased with the results.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on July 18, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
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Donato,
Okay, I understand. Take a deep breath and start over. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: tct855 on July 19, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
Tom,
Enjoy the pictorials as always my friend! Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you and you are welcome.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175314.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175314.jpeg)
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Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175343.jpeg)
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From the area in the photo above is an additional 8.5 feet of layout. The East wall is approximately 42.5 feet in length.
More in a few.
From the corner scenery to the end of the tree line, left to right, is just under 14 feet.
Looking West -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175409.jpeg)
looking East -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175422.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175422.jpeg)
More in a few.
Teaser picture. More tomorrow, I'm getting another very bad electrical storm so I'm pulling the plug.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200717180405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200717180405.jpeg)
Beautiful work Tom.
Beautiful scenes as usual Tom. I'm hoping to get down your way sometime in October. I need to see your layout in person. Your progress is really astonishing.
That's one of the best photos/mini-scenes I've seen on your layout...and I've seen a lot of good ones. Great modeling. Captured the feel of the region and time for sure.
John
Hi Tom:
Great looking little backwoods house.
Karl
Taking your advice Tom......
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Tic toc Tic Toc
I like the sense of spaciousness you've achieved.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 20, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on July 21, 2017, 06:51:34 AM
Beautiful scenes as usual Tom. I'm hoping to get down your way sometime in October. I need to see your layout in person. Your progress is really astonishing.
Mark,
Thank you, looking forward to seeing you in October. If it works out for you anyway.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 21, 2017, 08:00:12 AM
That's one of the best photos/mini-scenes I've seen on your layout...and I've seen a lot of good ones. Great modeling. Captured the feel of the region and time for sure.
John
John,
Thank you. I guess I should be honest and say it was a lucky shot!
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on July 21, 2017, 11:27:06 AM
Hi Tom:
Great looking little backwoods house.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks, the little farm house on the F&SM was the inspiration. This one is scratch built. Hard to believe it has been almost 20+ years since I built it.
Tom ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on July 21, 2017, 12:28:30 PM
Taking your advice Tom......
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Donato,
Now we're talking.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on July 22, 2017, 10:10:17 AM
Tic toc Tic Toc
Marty,
It reminds me of the syncopated clock.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on July 22, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
I like the sense of spaciousness you've achieved.
James,
Much appreciated, thank you. I wanted the viewer to feel like each scene was separate from the others and that the train was traveling further than the confines of the layout.
Tom ;D
The area between the layout edge and the track, across from the farm, is going to be a cow pasture.
Cows need a watering hole so I had to dig one out of the blue earth.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151312.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151312.jpeg)
I used rough sandpaper to round off the edges and then used spackle to grade the pond.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151327.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151327.jpeg)
More in a few.
Installing a fence was next. I used the Central Valley plastic (wood fence) pieces.
I pushed the fence posts into the foam and leveled the fence using my small bubble level. When satisfied with the fence, I used a toothpick and applied a little white glue to bottom of the posts to hold them in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151407.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151407.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151424.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151424.jpeg)
I decided it would be easier to install the fence prior to adding scenery.
More in a few.
I let the glue dry over night. The fence was firmly in place at this point.
I used Tamiya Flat White to paint the fence posts and rails.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151439.jpeg)
I also added the road to the pasture.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151541.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151541.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi break time, back in a few.
I then moved back to the Suwannee River Basin area to finish the area between the lagoon and the layout edge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151553.jpeg)
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More in a few.
After the first layer of sand was dry, I added a thin layer of Fine Dirt from Scenic Express. The dirt matches the road leading up to the wooden bridge over pass.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151455.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151455.jpeg)
I applied white glue to the area beside the road for the first layer of ground/scenery material.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151512.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151512.jpeg)
More in a few.
When this dries, I'll add more layers of scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151526.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151526.jpeg)
I painted the cow pond and noticed I need to add a little more spackle to smooth out the bottom and edges.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151354.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151354.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151340.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here are some extra pictures of the farm area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151622.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151622.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151637.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151637.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151652.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151652.jpeg)
Here is a view of my 38 foot work bench. The work bench will eventually become the town of Tahope with track and a reverse loop. 8)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717151707.jpeg)
I'll have more to add tomorrow afternoon.
Tom ;D
Beautiful Tom. You are a craftsman.
I hope the workbench area and reverse loop we be working and have full scenery by the time of the convention. ;D
Jeff
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 22, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
Beautiful Tom. You are a craftsman.
Curt,
Thank you for the very kind and generous compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 22, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
I hope the workbench area and reverse loop we be working and have full scenery by the time of the convention. ;D
Jeff
Jeff,
You are funny Doc! No, is the answer to that. I won't even start it until I get the third level bench work up.
I need the space for making the third level decking.
Tom
Y'all ought to see it in person.....photos don't do it justice. 8)
Just to get back in character.....if you hadn't been slacking so much since the holidays, you would have been able to get Tahope done in time for the convention. ;)
Most modelers have a workbench with about one square foot of open area, but you've achieved that in about 100 sq. ft.!
Nice work Tom.
Mike :)
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 23, 2017, 08:57:13 AM
Y'all ought to see it in person.....photos don't do it justice. 8)
Just to get back in character.....if you hadn't been slacking so much since the holidays, you would have been able to get Tahope done in time for the convention. ;)
Greg,
Thank you for the generous compliment on the layout work. It has been a whole bunch of fun. Not like a bunch of bananas, but fun.
Enjoyed yesterday and thanks for helping me move the plywood.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on July 23, 2017, 10:49:14 AM
Most modelers have a workbench with about one square foot of open area, but you've achieved that in about 100 sq. ft.!
James,
I realize I have much more space than many modelers and much less than others. This is all I can handle. It would indeed be nice to have that big of a work bench area. However, I'm looking forward to building the City of Tahope in the middle.
Thanks for checking in on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: madharry on July 23, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Nice work Tom.
Mike :)
Mike,
Thank you for the kind words and for stopping by the thread. I appreciate it.
Tom ;D
I mentioned I was going to do a cow pasture and now I've decided to have a barn for milking cows.
Beef cattle will be in the pasture and the milk cows in the barn area. There is no science in keeping them apart but I do plan on having a couple of bulls in the pasture so I need to limit the milk cows in the main pasture.
I'm going to use the BTS Prichard's Barn. I don't necessarily like the look. I plan on kit bashing it later to my liking, as in after the NMRA, but for now I'm only going to use the framing. More on this later in the week.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163810.jpeg)
The barn will be located in the area as seen in the below photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163824.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163824.jpeg)
More in a few.
You can see the scenery has already been added and will need to be removed. I measured the width of the barn and marked it on the fence. That section of the fence was removed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163838.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163838.jpeg)
I used a small metal square and drew lines in the scenery. The scenery between the lines will be removed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163851.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163851.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how I removed the scenery. The base was glued down with Elmer's White Glue. The additional layers were secured with matte medium.
Both the glue and matte medium will soften when water is added. So, I added/soaked the area with water and let it soak in for about 15 minutes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163904.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163904.jpeg)
I then used a putty knife and gently removed the scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163917.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163917.jpeg)
A little messy but easy peasy.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163937.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163937.jpeg)
Ya'll know what time it is. Back after grabbing a fresh Diet Pepsi from the fridge.
A barn-raising would be a great scene.
dave
Dave,
That is some what of what I'll have. I'll have the frame up but not much else. I do want to kit bash it later.
Tom ;D
I added another layer of scenery to the pasture gate area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164006.jpeg)
While that was drying, I added more spackle to the area where the spackle dried and cracked.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717163952.jpeg)
More in a few.
I painted white glue on the entire pasture area and added the first layer of ground scenery.
Where the white glue showed through as it was drying, I added more ground scenery until I couldn't see any white glue.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170647.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170647.jpeg)
I let this dry over night. I then used a soft bristle brush and swept up the excess scenery material. This material will live to be given the chance to be scenery else where on the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717170702.jpeg)
More in a few.
In a few days I'll be moving back to the area shown below. I plan to update the scenery here and add a few more trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164140.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164154.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164154.jpeg)
More in a few.
Ma Perkins added a few flowers in front of the small cracker house.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164020.jpeg)
I appears the chimney is in need of repair. I think I see a few chimney bricks laying on the roof.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164056.jpeg)
Over night a huge oak tree grew next to the house.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172409.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172409.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164038.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164038.jpeg)
More in a few.
I added the final layer of scenery and a tall tree next to the bridge area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172933.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172933.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172945.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230717172945.jpeg)
This is the wrong location for this tree and it has since been removed and replaced with a smaller one.
I'll show the new scene tomorrow or the next day.
More in a few.
Two extra pictures.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164126.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220717164110.jpeg)
Truly outstanding work Tom.
When looking at the photo with the workbench, you can't help but realize that Tom is not only a Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.
Quote from: Donato on July 23, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.
I always thought that was impossible to combine, but Tom proves me wrong, I would be happy being one of the two , preferably the first if I had to choose ;)
Wonderful work. I love spacious layouts with space between destinations. As an operator you feel like you've really traveled somewhere. You have created this the illusion quite well.
--Rich
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 23, 2017, 07:30:46 PM
Truly outstanding work Tom.
Curt,
I truly thank you my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on July 23, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
When looking at the photo with the workbench, you can't help but realize that Tom is not only a Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.
Donato,
I sure got you fooled. Are we talking about the same me?
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on July 24, 2017, 03:16:48 AM
Quote from: Donato on July 23, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
Master Builder, but he is also 1000% neat and organized.
I always thought that was impossible to combine, but Tom proves me wrong, I would be happy being one of the two , preferably the first if I had to choose ;)
Jan,
Looks like I reeled you in also. And, I don't even fish! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: richbeau on July 24, 2017, 07:49:42 AM
Wonderful work. I love spacious layouts with space between destinations. As an operator you feel like you've really traveled somewhere. You have created this the illusion quite well.
--Rich
Rich,
Thank you. The look you mentioned was exactly the effect I was going for. I you follow a train around my layout you will seem to travel between 10 to 11 different scenes. The trip around the room is approximately 110 feet.
Again, thank you.
Tom ;D
I have Donato and Jan thinking I'm neat and organized. If neat and organized is what you see in the next two pictures, I'd really hate to see not neat and unorganized.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172931.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172931.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172943.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717172943.jpeg)
Just saying.
More in a few.
I added and weathered the remaining switch stands to all the turnouts on the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173002.jpeg)
More in a few.
I mentioned yesterday I removed the tall tree and replaced it with one that better fits the landscape.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173016.jpeg)
Reading Bob and I are co-owners in a NOCH Grass Master. I used it the past few days for the firs time since we purchased it.
The next several pictures are of the farm area. I'm not going into all the steps of how I did the pasture. The only difference in the layered scenery is the fact I used the grass master instead of the middle two layers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173045.jpeg)
More in a few.
The ruts for the truck were made while the scenery was still damp. I rolled the truck from the front gate to the rear and applied a little pressure so the ruts would show in the grass.
I then used SE fine dirt and sprinkled it into both ruts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173031.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173045.jpeg)
More in a few.
The beef cattle are Preiser figures and are about 30+ years old.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173058.jpeg)
The truck is a mini-metal and dusted with the SE fine dirt. Some dust must have been sucked into the air filter and into the carburetor.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173115.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173743.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173756.jpeg)
I'll add water to the cow pond in a few days.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173142.jpeg)
Looking North -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240717173812.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time I'm finished for the day.
Tom ;D
Tom, I love the dirt track and of course everything else also.
ACL 1504,
Wow!!! 👍👍 Very realistic scene. I believe if I look close enough, I can see cow patties? You absolutely have a great eye for modeling, even to the point that if Allen Keller was still filming Great Model Railroads, this layout would have been in catalog. No doubt to me... It's my honor to say I know TL. Keep squeezin' that glue bottle my friend! Thanx Thom...
Very nice scenery work there Tom.
I recall Lance Mindheim saying that scenes such as you have created help to break up the "city scenes" and thus make the layout appear larger.
You are doing excellent work on your layout. Congrats !
And yes, I agree with you Thom. It's a shame there isn't an "Allen Keller" around these days as there are some really fine looking layouts that feature on this forum that would be deserving of a visit.
David
Neat and Organized , just got replaced by Fooling Others ;) , haha you had us good Tom. But if that's what it takes to become a master scenery artist I have no problems at all with Clutter and Debris
Hi Tom,
Your cattle pasture is looking great, and I like the story you are telling with the LP. The guy with the broken down pickup better not agitate that bull.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 24, 2017, 06:27:08 PM
Tom, I love the dirt track and of course everything else also.
Curt,
Thank you, the dirt road was an after thought. I remember seeing the well worn path of the farmer's vehicle in many pastures around central Florida.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 24, 2017, 06:27:40 PM
ACL 1504,
Wow!!! 👍👍 Very realistic scene. I believe if I look close enough, I can see cow patties? You absolutely have a great eye for modeling, even to the point that if Allen Keller was still filming Great Model Railroads, this layout would have been in catalog. No doubt to me... It's my honor to say I know TL. Keep squeezin' that glue bottle my friend! Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you sir, and yes, you did see a cow patty. I think I dropped three or four, didn't have any others. This is a clean pasture. For now anyway.
I guess I came along to late in the game for Keller. Oh well, it would have been nice.
Again, thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bagman on July 24, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Very nice scenery work there Tom.
I recall Lance Mindheim saying that scenes such as you have created help to break up the "city scenes" and thus make the layout appear larger.
You are doing excellent work on your layout. Congrats !
And yes, I agree with you Thom. It's a shame there isn't an "Allen Keller" around these days as there are some really fine looking layouts that feature on this forum that would be deserving of a visit.
David
David,
Thank you, very much appreciate the kind compliment on the layout and my work. I've really enjoyed making the different scenes. I like the idea on the layout that it appears to go several different locations in one turn around the room.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on July 25, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Neat and Organized , just got replaced by Fooling Others ;) , haha you had us good Tom. But if that's what it takes to become a master scenery artist I have no problems at all with Clutter and Debris
Jan,
I thought you two were kidding at first! Then I realized in looking at the pictures it did appear to be an organized area. But as you know, it wasn't what it seemed.
I have all kind of stuff, tools, materials, etc. all over the place when I'm working on a scene or scenery. Not sure it ever gets fully cleaned up - just pushed away for more work space. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 25, 2017, 04:15:19 PM
Hi Tom,
Your cattle pasture is looking great, and I like the story you are telling with the LP. The guy with the broken down pickup better not agitate that bull.
Steve,
Thank you for the kind support on the layout work. The bull is looking for some hay, I think. ;D Farmer Perkins is keeping the truck between him and the bull.
Tom ;D
I've been working on the layout for 10 hours now. Going to take a break and then post some updates on the days progress.
Tom ;D
My classmate who lives in VT was telling me about the herd of cows that got spooked in a recent storm and wandered into their yard. They stomped on some newly planted flowers and left "souvenirs" all over the yard. They were not amused, but chalked it up to "Life in the Northeast Kingdom" (that part of VT that borders Canada and overhangs NH.)
dave
I decided I could better utilize the space at the south end of the layout. Several years ago, Reading Bob and I made a swap of FOS' Caldwell Junction. He gave me the diorama he built and I gave him my still in the box kit.
Of course I had to remove the structures from the diorama and rearrange the building fit my area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162425.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162439.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: deemery on July 25, 2017, 05:11:50 PM
My classmate who lives in VT was telling me about the herd of cows that got spooked in a recent storm and wandered into their yard. They stomped on some newly planted flowers and left "souvenirs" all over the yard. They were not amused, but chalked it up to "Life in the Northeast Kingdom" (that part of VT that borders Canada and overhangs NH.)
dave
Dave,
Great story. Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162452.jpeg)
The track to the left leads to the south end of the Ovalix. From this track you can reverse the train or enter the Ovalix and go down to staging. I you change your mind, you can exit the north end of the Ovalix and continue onto the mainline.
The center track is the mainline and the curved track on the right is the lead in to the City of Tahope.
You see the Caldwell Junction building fit in quite well here.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162505.jpeg)
More in a few.
I worked on the reverse loop area late this morning.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg)
I intend to have the scenery hide the two Tortoise switch motors in the back ground.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162531.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162518.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162518.jpeg)
I won't be using any structures for this but will use thick under growth on the left and trees in the center diamond area.
More in a few.
In the above picture you can see some blue wall just below the photo back drop. I painted this area brown to blend in with the thick under growth when added.
I had to reach down from the top of the Ovalix to start the scenery in this area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162543.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162543.jpeg)
Fast forward here and I'm waiting on the glue to dry prior to adding more scenery layers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162558.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162558.jpeg)
More in a few.
I moved back to Caldwell Junction. After several hours of seeing the structures in this location, I drew lines where the connecting road will be.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162633.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162633.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162648.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162648.jpeg)
You can also see in the two photos above I ballasted the track on the spur and curve.
More in a few.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
... Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o
Tom ;D
He works in IT, so I'm sure he has substantial professional experience with cow patties and those who produce and manage them :-) :-) After a career in that line of work, I'm an expert in bovine effluent.
dave
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162714.jpeg)
The building were removed and glue was applied to the road area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162728.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162728.jpeg)
Continued after I find a very cold Diet Pepsi.
Quote from: deemery on July 25, 2017, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 25, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
... Reading Bob told me how to make cow patties but I haven't done so yet. I need to make a few "pasture land mines" for a more natural look. :o :o
Tom ;D
He works in IT, so I'm sure he has substantial professional experience with cow patties and those who produce and manage them :-) :-)
dave
Yes, you are correct about that. I know he sees plenty of chit during the day.
We use to have a saying in the police department. "One Philistine slew a thousand Romans with the jaw bone of a ass. Our managers use the same weapon 1900 years later."
And, then I became one of the managers. ;D ;D ;D However, I always remembered where I can from, a rookie.
Tom ;D
I spread the white glue and added a base layer of sand for the dirt road.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162740.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717162740.jpeg)
Fast forward back to the diamond area. The area is now ready for some trees and thick bushes to hide the corner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250717181334.jpeg)
Done for this day.
I use little blobs of Raw Umber artist's acrylic paint for cow flops - give 'em a day or two to dry because they're thicker than normal paint work.
Quote from: jbvb on July 25, 2017, 06:27:36 PM
I use little blobs of Raw Umber artist's acrylic paint for cow flops - give 'em a day or two to dry because they're thicker than normal paint work.
James,
Great idea, thanks, I'll try it.
Tom ;D
Excellent work Tom. I can't believe how quick you are also!
PS- Did you get the PM I sent you yesterday? I may have sent it to the wrong person :o
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 25, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Excellent work Tom. I can't believe how quick you are also!
PS- Did you get the PM I sent you yesterday? I may have sent it to the wrong person :o
Curt,
Thank you as always sir. Yes, I did get it and sent a reply. I'll resend it.
Tom ;D
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote. As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps? Jim
Quote from: jrmueller on July 26, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote. As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps? Jim
Jim for the Win, best quote of the day!
dave
ANNOUNCEMENT!
Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT!
Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.
The Storms do not appear to have caused a problem with the Internet (Spectrum), but my phone does not work again (AT&T)
Welcome to the Lightning Capital of the world.
Jim
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT!
Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.
Provider?
Reads more like a non-provider to me.
Does the "provider", by any chance, start with a "C"? :(
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 26, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 26, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT!
Tom is having a problem getting online after a lightning strike. The provider told him they can't get it fixed till next week. He will be back as soon as the problem is resolved.
Provider?
Reads more like a non-provider to me.
Does the "provider", by any chance, start with a "C"? :(
If I remember correctly it starts with a "S".....used to start with a "B". :-\
Back on line but not sure for how long. My modem got hit so its only guess work when it stays on. Specturm says they can be here early next week.
Anyway in the mean time, I'm bypassing the modem using an Ethernet cable and it seems to work for the most part.
I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!
My 2 cents worth for today.
I'll have a few updates later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
Back on line but not sure for how long. My modem got hit so its only guess work when it stays on. Specturm says they can be here early next week.
Anyway in the mean time, I'm bypassing the modem using an Ethernet cable and it seems to work for the most part.
I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!
My 2 cents worth for today.
I'll have a few updates later this evening.
Tom ;D
Ya gotta watch the BS.....seems to be a lot of it going around lately..... :o
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!
Tom ;D
Tom,
Look at the upside.
If you scrape up some of that BS, you won't have to figure out how to recreate it in the new pasture! ;) 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 26, 2017, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 26, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
I think Greg got it wrong when he said one started with an "S" and the old one started with a "B". In my opinion they are all BS!
Tom ;D
Tom,
Look at the upside.
If you scrape up some of that BS, you won't have to figure out how to recreate it in the new pasture! ;) 8)
Chip,
Hmm, food for thought. Er, maybe food is the wrong word here. ::) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on July 26, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote. As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps? Jim
Jim,
Thank you for the kind words of support on the layout. If I start early in the morning the day goes really fast and so far, no naps. But then I'm usually asleep by 8 PM. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 26, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
Quote from: jrmueller on July 26, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
Well Tom you're certainly letting grass grow under your feet, to juggle a quote. As usual great work and I'm amazed at how much you can get done in a day. No naps? Jim
Jim for the Win, best quote of the day!
dave
I agree!
Tom ;D
I liked how the orange grove dirt turned out so I thought I'd try the same method on the dirt area around Caldwell Junction.
On the orange grove I applied a layer of real Florida sand and then added the WS Earth on top of that. As it was drying, I sifted on a light layer of sand followed by another light layer of WS Earth.
On this road I applied a base layer of sand over white glue. I added matte medium and another light layer of sand. As it was drying I sifted some SE Fine Dirt.
I'll let you know tomorrow how it turned out, good or bad.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183642.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183702.jpeg)
More in a few.
Farmer Perkins had Langford Construction Co. pour a foundation for the barn walls. Notice how neat the crew was in cleaning up all the construction debris.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183714.jpeg)
After the foundation was set and dry, the carpenters added the barn framing.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183727.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260717183727.jpeg)
You can see how the framing is scarred and burnt from the laser. I'll paint it with either Floquil Earth of Foundation.
I'm not happy with the look of the BTS barn as it isn't southern enough for me. The roof just doesn't look correct to me. I probably is but I still don't like it. After the NMRA Open House. I'll replace the barn with one that is more fitting of the South.
More in a few.
I added the grass and weeds between the tracks - mainline and siding. I also added the weeds and some growth to the sides of the road. I taped the road to keep glue and water off.
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More in a few.
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For several hours this fine day I tried to get the internet back up and running. During this time I also made another 75+ trees. I painted them early this morning with Ace Hardware Gray Primer. They were dry after 30 minutes.
Over the next 6 hours I added different types foliage and colors.
Here are about 30 of the 75.
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These will be used to fill in the diamond area shown below. Repeat picture.
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Done for the day.
Beautiful work Tom.
Hi Tom:
Beautiful work as usual.
Karl
I suspect it's the steep roof on that barn that bothers you. Snow loadings aren't a problem in your neck of the woods :-) :-)
dave
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 26, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Beautiful work Tom.
Curt,
Thank you as always for stopping by and posting a comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on July 27, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
Hi Tom:
Beautiful work as usual.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you for the kind remark, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 27, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
I suspect it's the steep roof on that barn that bothers you. Snow loadings aren't a problem in your neck of the woods :-) :-)
dave
Dave,
You are correct. I need a southern style barn. I'm working on that project.
Tom ;D
Reporting back on the dirt road.
I'm very pleased with the results. NO CRACKING! Woo Hoo!
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More in a few.
The white glue leveled out a little and when the sand was added it leveled even more. You can see the structure doesn't fit flush/level now.
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I marked where the structure should sit and cut through the sand and glue,
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I then used a new old #17 blade to removed the glued sand. I say "new old" in that it is a new #17 blade but only beveled on one side/edge. Xacto's new #17 blades are beveled on both edges and aren't worth a crap. Fortunately I have a modest supply of the old style blades.
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To be continued after locating a cold Diet Pepsi.
Using the beveled edge face down, it slips under the glue and the dried glue and sand simply pop up.
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To smooth the area, I use #220 wet or dry sand paper to sand the sand. ??? ???
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More in a few.
You can see now the corners are sharp and clean for the building.
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Now the building sits flush on the assigned piece of real estate.
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More in a few.
The other building were cut in the same way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717172926.jpeg)
Here is how they look with the dirt area around and between the buildings.
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More in a few.
I used blue painters tape to cover the foot print of the buildings.
I'm going to add some scenery here and didn't want to cover the building foot prints with foliage.
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More in a few.
This morning I also added the thick underbrush to the back side.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180237.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180237.jpeg)
I added two trees between the current tree line and the underbrush. This ties the two together.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180253.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270717180253.jpeg)
I have more to show but am just to tired to post anymore this evening. Check back tomorrow for more updates.
Tom ;D
I got a few trees planted in the reverse loop area. I'll add some underbrush in and around the trees. Right now they look a little to sterile for me.
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More in a few.
This next picture shows you an angle you won't see when the third level is installed.
I wanted to show the trees do an excellent job of hiding the Tortoise Switch Motors.
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Back in a few.
Yesterday, I also worked on the road and the scenery around the road.
The white lines and RR cross bucks were added. Some scenery on the left sand slope was added as well.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170858.jpeg)
The road was weathered and more hill side scenery was added.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170913.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717170913.jpeg)
More in a few.
Several of the trees Kris Cutler made me are now planted on the corner area of the sand hill.
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Diet Pepsi time and more pictures need to be loaded.
Tom,
After all the fantastic modeling you've been doin', you enjoy your dp. KP-out...
Quote from: tct855 on July 28, 2017, 05:52:00 PM
Tom,
After all the fantastic modeling you've been doin', you enjoy your dp. KP-out...
Thom,
Yepper, I have it in my cold little fingers as we speak. Thank you also for the kind words on the layout work.
Tom
Starting early this morning, I continued the work on the Caldwell Junction structures and scenery.
The garage structure is raised and on the diorama it had a dirt ramp leading up to the garage doors.
I made a small ramp out of A&I stained 8x8s. Added some white glue in the center and partially filled it with sand.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717174952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717174952.jpeg)
I wet the sand and added matte medium. While it was drying I move to the other in line buildings.
I removed the blue painters tape and cleaned the foot prints.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175006.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then added the building.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175021.jpeg)
You can also see how the green garage fits with the ramp.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175034.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175034.jpeg)
More in a few.
I added a short section of track for the hand car shed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175050.jpeg)
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Continued in a few.
I'll fast forward here to say the hand car shed track was ballasted, the rest of the grass scenery and dirt was added. I have many many additional details to be added to this area but the basic scene is complete.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175123.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175123.jpeg)
Yes, that is a Raymo truck. The dirt ramp turned out really well.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175140.jpeg)
More in a few.
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175233.jpeg)
The roof on the hand car shed needs to be touched up a little.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175245.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175245.jpeg)
A few MOW pieces of rolling stock were set out on the siding.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175258.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280717175258.jpeg)
That's is all for today folks.
Tom ;D
What he say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4
Pam loves it as do I!
KPII
Very Nice Tom, I builit the same kit but with North-easthern flavour. Good luck with the convention.............
Mike
I like the way the south end is turning out. 8)
Great modeling Tom. I love the new MOW section.
Beautiful work Tom. Your progress is amazing. Are you sure you don't have like a thousand Minions working at night? :)
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Quote from: Donato on July 29, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
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Where's the Diet Pepsi/Coke?
dave
Quote from: madharry on July 28, 2017, 07:13:47 PM
Very Nice Tom, I builit the same kit but with North-easthern flavour. Good luck with the convention.............
Mike
Mike,
Much appreciated, thank you. Six more days.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 28, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
I like the way the south end is turning out. 8)
Greg,
Thanks, I'm very pleased with the result.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 28, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
Great modeling Tom. I love the new MOW section.
Curt,
As always, thank you for the kind words of support. I'm happy with the look as well. Many more detail will be added but after the conference.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on July 29, 2017, 06:26:43 AM
Beautiful work Tom. Your progress is amazing. Are you sure you don't have like a thousand Minions working at night? :)
Mark,
Your support and kind compliment are appreciated. I has been fun and when every day is Saturday, a lot can be accomplished. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: Donato on July 29, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
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It appears they aren't drinking anything.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from: Donato on July 29, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
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It appears they aren't drinking anything.
And that's clearly not prototypical! You get docked NMRA Achievement Award points for conformance.
dave
Dave,
I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Dave,
I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
They can build anything, but they drink the other brand.
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Quote from: Janbouli on July 30, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 30, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Dave,
I not sure those guys can even build a railroad much less get the NMRA Award. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
They can build anything, but they drink the other brand.
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Jan,
Now that is better, even if it is Coke. Looking like a team effort.
Tom ;D
I did more work on the layout this afternoon and should be ready to post later this evening.
Gotta find a Diet Pepsi as the Coke Boys made me thirsty.
Back in about 30 minutes.
Tom ;D
I'm confoosed!?. :o
Quote from: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 05:46:26 PM
I'm confoosed!?. :o
Thom,
Don't be confoosed! It's what we refer to as an intercola relationship. :'( :'( :'(
Tom 8)
This morning I finished the area in the reverse loop. I previously referred to this area as the diamond even though it is more shaped like a triangle.
I mentioned it was too sterile looking. I added more ground material and smaller bushes. I'm pleased with the result and a good portion of this will be behind the smaller lubritorium building.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg)
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More in a few.
I've been discussing palm trees with the Judge for about two years. About three years ago I purchased some of Hart of the South Models palm trees. They are beautiful but require many hours of assembly. Here are a few pictures of Hart's palm trees on a small diorama he built and had on display at the Happy Hobo Hobby Shop in Tampa, Fl.
Sadly, the Happy Hobo is now closed and has been for several years.
I have several of the trees but just don't have the time to make any at this time.
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Beautiful palm trees but very time consuming to make.
More in a few.
I looked at the Woodland Scenics Palm trees. I decided with some paint and imagination, these trees could be made to look somewhat realistic.
I purchased a few and experimented in painting the palm fronds. Sadly I don't have any pictures of the process but I do have pictures of the finished palms on the layout.
We went to the LHS and found that Humbrol Enamel paint had the best green, frond color, of any paints. After testing a few trees with the frond green, actually a Humbrol Medium Green, we decided to bite the bullet and the Judge purchased a few dozen more of the Woodland Scenics Palms.
Bill, the Judge, did a wonderful job at painting the fronds and trunks. We now have about two dozen WS palms mixed in with the other trees.
Oh yea, I finished the area around the lagoon this afternoon. Here are a few photos of that area. See if you can spot the palms. It isn't hard! 8)
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More in a few.
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I forgot to mention I planted an additional four cypress trees around the edge of the lagoon.
Shaping up nicely Tom. The palms are beautiful. Ahhh, the Happy Hobo. I used to go there back when I lived in Tampa. I forgot the original owners name, but he had a beautiful home layout based on the B&M.
Very nice Tom. Judge did a great job also.
Hi Tom,
The visitors from the NMRA convention will be very impressed with your layout as I am. With the more trees you have place, it is really looking great.
ACL 1504,
Great swamp pictures! If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in! Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom... P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
ACL 1504,
Great swamp pictures! If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in! Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom... P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D
:) :) :)
Beautiful looking Scenes.
I knew the Judge was talented, I had forgotten just HOW talented. Can we give him an Award of some kind ???? Maybe a Tree Limb on a board.
Jim
I like your palms; perhaps some of you remember an early-70s Model Railroader article by a man modeling Southern California who made realistic palms out of paper. He cut multiple copies of individual fronds with an XActo on a pad of paper and modeled both the dead fronds and the texture of the trunk. One of those which inspired me to pursue a more photo-realistic kind of modeling.
Hey Tom the lagoon area is fantastic!! The palms really add to the that area. Did you tell the Judge there are only 500 more for him to do, he did a nice job. I really like the extra cypress trees. Can't wait to get back down there to see it in person. I know the pressure is on this week, so get back at it.
Great work by the Judge. Those look pretty fake in the store. Very nice addition to a great scene.
John
This is shaping up very nicely! :D The addition of the palm and cypress trees to the lagoon area makes a huge difference. The MOW scene looks wonderful too! Kudos! ;D ;D ;D
Tom,
Love the new trees, especially the palm trees. You have to be proud of what you have done in such a short time. Absolutely marvelous. Quick question, are you going to pour water in the basin before the convention? Its a lot of work, but would be over the top awesome. Keep up the marvelous work my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Tom
Great looking scene. Sure looks like Florida to me!
I'd like to have the nearest Motel 6 franchise to Casa Langford as there's gonna' be a lot of folks "stayin' over" to see this gem! :) :)
I'd even leave the lights on for them.
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees. I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp. I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do." Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed. I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation. I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern.
I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention.
Atta boy Bill..... 8)
Really cool scenes Tom.
Thanx
Bob
Quote from: MAP on July 30, 2017, 06:47:00 PM
Shaping up nicely Tom. The palms are beautiful. Ahhh, the Happy Hobo. I used to go there back when I lived in Tampa. I forgot the original owners name, but he had a beautiful home layout based on the B&M.
Mark,
Thank you. I've spent many a day and $$ at the HH. The in store layout was pretty cool
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2017, 06:52:58 PM
Very nice Tom. Judge did a great job also.
Curt,
Thank you. Yes, the Judge did do a great job on the trees.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 30, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
Hi Tom,
The visitors from the NMRA convention will be very impressed with your layout as I am. With the more trees you have place, it is really looking great.
Steve,
Thank you and I do hope the visitors like what I've done.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
ACL 1504,
Great swamp pictures! If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in! Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom... P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D
Thom,
Thank you sir. By the way, I did get bit by one of the blood suckers this past week. Trump can come on down, I don't have anything in the swamp just yet to drain. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 30, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: tct855 on July 30, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
ACL 1504,
Great swamp pictures! If I put a hand to my ear like the Grinch, I can hear the mosquitoes choppering in! Keep swamp building brother. Thanx Thom... P.S. Better hope Trump doesn't find out about your layout, he might want to drain it also! ;D
:) :) :)
Chip,
Thanks for stopping by and taking a look see.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 30, 2017, 09:49:37 PM
Beautiful looking Scenes.
I knew the Judge was talented, I had forgotten just HOW talented. Can we give him an Award of some kind ??? ? Maybe a Tree Limb on a board.
Jim
Jim,
Thank you kind sir. Yes, the Judge still has it.
Tom 8)
Quote from: jbvb on July 30, 2017, 10:11:40 PM
I like your palms; perhaps some of you remember an early-70s Model Railroader article by a man modeling Southern California who made realistic palms out of paper. He cut multiple copies of individual fronds with an XActo on a pad of paper and modeled both the dead fronds and the texture of the trunk. One of those which inspired me to pursue a more photo-realistic kind of modeling.
James,
Thank you. The palms turn out better than we expected.
I vaguely remember the article. Back then they were pretty crude looking.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on July 31, 2017, 07:07:30 AM
Hey Tom the lagoon area is fantastic!! The palms really add to the that area. Did you tell the Judge there are only 500 more for him to do, he did a nice job. I really like the extra cypress trees. Can't wait to get back down there to see it in person. I know the pressure is on this week, so get back at it.
Bill and Kris,
Thank you, much appreciated. I was very much surprised how the palms changed the overall look of the scenery. We have many more to add. The added cypress trees made a difference also.
Ya'll are welcome anytime.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 31, 2017, 07:55:43 AM
Great work by the Judge. Those look pretty fake in the store. Very nice addition to a great scene.
John
John,
You are correct, in the store they look like plastic palm trees. Painting the fronds another shade of green, painting the trunks gray and then dry brushing on some light brown really changed the look.
Thanks for the compliment and stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 31, 2017, 09:43:56 AM
This is shaping up very nicely! :D The addition of the palm and cypress trees to the lagoon area makes a huge difference. The MOW scene looks wonderful too! Kudos! ;D ;D ;D
Bob,
Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout and scenery. The MOW scene fits much better than the other structure I had planned for that area.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on July 31, 2017, 12:06:43 PM
Tom,
Love the new trees, especially the palm trees. You have to be proud of what you have done in such a short time. Absolutely marvelous. Quick question, are you going to pour water in the basin before the convention? Its a lot of work, but would be over the top awesome. Keep up the marvelous work my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thank you for the kind words on the layout.
I enjoyed our phone conversation this afternoon. Always a pleasure talking to a structure master. At this point in the game, I'm very pleased with what I've done and how it has turned out.
The water won't go in for the conference. I have many more things I want to add to the lagoon and with adding the water I won't be able to make any changes.
I do plan on adding the water in the next few months.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 31, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
Tom
Great looking scene. Sure looks like Florida to me!
John,
Thank you for the compliment. It is starting to get hot like Florida as well. Oh wait, I turned off the AC! ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 31, 2017, 09:11:00 PM
I'd like to have the nearest Motel 6 franchise to Casa Langford as there's gonna' be a lot of folks "stayin' over" to see this gem! :) :)
I'd even leave the lights on for them.
Chip,
What a great idea. And, thank you for the kind and generous compliment on the scenery. Remember, leave the lights on.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on August 01, 2017, 11:34:34 AM
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees. I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp. I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do." Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed. I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation. I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern.
I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention.
Bill,
I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.
When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.
Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.
The palm trees did make a difference.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 01, 2017, 11:40:08 AM
Atta boy Bill..... 8)
Greg,
Thank you. Oh, oops, my bad, that was for the Judge.
Tom 8)
Quote from: bparrish on August 01, 2017, 02:17:27 PM
Really cool scenes Tom.
Thanx
Bob
Bob,
Thank you very much. They sure were fun putting together.
Tom ;D
Here are three additional photos with palm trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185505.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185519.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817185538.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Judge on August 01, 2017, 11:34:34 AM
I really appreciate the kind comments about the palm trees. I agree that they are an improvement and make the scene look more like a Florida swamp. I need to confess that my efforts were more in the line of "monkey see, monkey do." Tom found the paint and gave me the instructions on how to proceed. I simply followed his instructions and checked out the thousands of palm trees growing next to the roads and highways in Central Florida to make sure we were making a good approximation. I don't plan on making 500 more trees but I am sure we will "plant" a lot more of them on the second and third levels of the Atlantic and Southern.
I hope to meet some of you this Saturday at Tom's house during the NMRA Convention.
Bill,
I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.
When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.
Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.
The palm trees did make a difference.
Tom ;D
Tom, I couldn't agree more. The decision by you and Bill to add the palms adds another dimension to your already beautiful scenery. They add a depth and richness to the "story" you are presenting.
Keep up the great work and enjoy your open house this weekend.
All the best,
--Paul (who has been following and enjoying your wonderful progress here in the shadows)
Today I finished the rural cracker house.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191632.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191632.jpeg)
I added the rolled roofing material to the main and porch roof. No photos of this as many threads have been done showing how to do this.
I also added the posts from scale 6x6s.
More in a few.
Quote from: PaulS on August 01, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 01, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
Bill,
I was trying to give you all the credit. You did do a fantastic job on the palm trees.
When we planted them Sunday afternoon, I couldn't believe how good they looked and how they changed the entire look of the scenery.
Now, my turn to confess. I was't going to plant any palm trees, period. The Judge convinced me that they would compliment the rest of the scenery.
The palm trees did make a difference.
Tom ;D
Tom, I couldn't agree more. The decision by you and Bill to add the palms adds another dimension to your already beautiful scenery. They add a depth and richness to the "story" you are presenting.
Keep up the great work and enjoy your open house this weekend.
All the best,
--Paul (who has been following and enjoying your wonderful progress here in the shadows)
Paul,
Thank you very much, we appreciate the compliment. I don't often listen to the Judge but he was correct on the trees adding more to the overall scene.
I guess you can't say you are still in the shadows. I do appreciate you following along either way.
Tom ;D
I also decided to add an LED to the front and only porch on this little house.
I'm using the Miniatronics Surface Mount LED. It is the Yeloglo White, Part #12-625-04.
When lit, it is bright so I needed to tone it down.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191650.jpeg)
I dipped it, with the LED on, in the Tamiya Clear Yellow acrylic paint. I let the first dip dry and then made a second dip.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191703.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191703.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how the LED looked under the porch roof. Still to bright for me. NOTE: the LED is face down in this first photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817193731.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817193731.jpeg)
I turned the LED face up to the under side of the roof and now I have a much more subdued look. I like it.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191717.jpeg)
More in a few.
For weathering the roof, I used Weber Costello Pastels. I got mine some 15+ years ago at a local art supply store.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191731.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191731.jpeg)
I used the gray fourth from the bottom. I used a soft brush and applied the pastel to the bottom ridge of each rolled roofing material.
NOTE: I didn't attempt to remove any of the pastel chalk dust at this time.
I applied the pastel to the opposite side in the same manner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191758.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191758.jpeg)
More in a few. I need a cold Diet Pepsi.
I then used a 1" wide soft bristle brush and pulled the brush down, vertically, from the top. You can see the difference in the photo below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191812.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191812.jpeg)
The chimney was added next.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191826.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817191826.jpeg)
More in a few.
The cracker house across from the A&S RR station is now in place. After the conference, I'll be adding yard junk weeds and other stuff. I need to adjust the ground scenery as the house floats as seen in the bottom photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192354.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192354.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192406.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192406.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192419.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010817192419.jpeg)
Tom,
That last picture posted would make an awesome shot if you could add some early morning swamp fog. Wouldn't it! 8) KP-out
What a wonderful picturesque cracker house scene .
--Rich
Quote from: tct855 on August 01, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
Tom,
That last picture posted would make an awesome shot if you could add some early morning swamp fog. Wouldn't it! 8) KP-out
Thom,
Yes, it would. I'll have to give that some thought.
Tom ;D
Quote from: richbeau on August 01, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
What a wonderful picturesque cracker house scene .
--Rich
Rich,
Thanks very much. I think it will look more natural when I get more detail around and under the house.
Tom ;D
Tom...
These latest scenery photos...out-bloody-standing, as we would say down-under.
You are building a fine looking layout. You must be very pleased with the progress.
David
Beautiful additions to the layout and scenery. I know during the layout tours everyone will be as impressed with your skill as I am.
Tom, that is what happens when you use Cracker Jacks. LOL
Tom,
In just over 48 hours you can take a breather from this "Hell bent for Leather" schedule you have set for yourself. You have accomplished an enormous amount of real estate development in a minimum of time and I know it will be well received. If you hadn't had that setback you would probably be running trains on the upper level! I am sure that after the convention tour you will set another energetic schedule, but with it you can take a break at any time and relax.
The participants on the tour will be well impressed with your concept, your scenery, your attention to detail and your progress. I have mentioned your date and time to a couple of my friends from up north and hopefully they will have allotted time in their schedule to see the layout. I hope the day goes very well for everyone and there will be no planned or, inadvertent utilization of the pool by the masses. Enjoy the accolades you will receive.
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[/size]By the way, did the LDSIG contact you about the A&S?
Quote from: bagman on August 02, 2017, 06:27:31 AM
Tom...
These latest scenery photos...out-bloody-standing, as we would say down-under.
You are building a fine looking layout. You must be very pleased with the progress.
David
David,
Why I-bloody-thank you! I very much appreciate the kind compliment. It has been fun. I think I've become a scenery junkie. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 02, 2017, 08:06:58 AM
Beautiful additions to the layout and scenery. I know during the layout tours everyone will be as impressed with your skill as I am.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I appreciate you always checking in on the progress.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 02, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Tom, that is what happens when you use Cracker Jacks. LOL
Marty,
Dang, that is a great comment. I wish I had thunk it up! Cracker Jacks, just wonderful.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on August 03, 2017, 07:19:43 AM
Tom,
In just over 48 hours you can take a breather from this "Hell bent for Leather" schedule you have set for yourself. You have accomplished an enormous amount of real estate development in a minimum of time and I know it will be well received. If you hadn't had that setback you would probably be running trains on the upper level! I am sure that after the convention tour you will set another energetic schedule, but with it you can take a break at any time and relax.
The participants on the tour will be well impressed with your concept, your scenery, your attention to detail and your progress. I have mentioned your date and time to a couple of my friends from up north and hopefully they will have allotted time in their schedule to see the layout. I hope the day goes very well for everyone and there will be no planned or, inadvertent utilization of the pool by the masses. Enjoy the accolades you will receive.
Bob,
Great to hear from you my friend. The set back cost me three months worth of work but I'm
certainly not complaining. Three months off was better than having my heirs take it all apart.
I have been very busy as you can see but it has been well worth the effort. I find I'm more interested in scenery and structures than running trains.
I do have more self imposed work as I want to get a train running on the third level by January 2018.
I hope all that come visit leave being happy they stopped by. I also hope your friends make it by as well.
Thirty eight hours and counting.
Tom ;D
Today I poured water in the cow pond. I used the WS Deep Pour Water Murky.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183505.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183505.jpeg)
The cows seemed happy as well to have some water.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183518.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183518.jpeg)
More in a few.
I mixed some Deep Pour Water Clear and added water to the river under the roadway and railroad bridges.
Before -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183434.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183434.jpeg)
After the pour -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183450.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183450.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then went back to check on the cow pond. The cows were gone and I said, "WHAT THE ----"!
Several different phrases came forth from my lips none of which can be expressed here. You don't need to be Hercule Poirot and use your little gray cells to know what I was saying.
Forty Eight hours until the open house and this Chit happens.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183554.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183554.jpeg)
The water started coming up in blobs and doing all kinds of weird movements. You've got to be kidding me, I don't have time for this Mr. Murphy crap!
I quickly removed what I could to save the pond and the scene. This is what I removed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183608.jpeg)
More in a few. Most definitely time for a tall cold Diet Pepsi, maybe two.
And this is what I have left of the cow pond.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183642.jpeg)
This portion is still very much liquid but the stuff I removed was from the "X" Files or "The Outer Limits". I'll say I was at my limit about this time.
See, I report failures as well as good stuff on this layout thread. What I see, you see, what I get, I pass on to you. No need to thank me. I know you appreciate it! 8) 8) 8) 8)
When the pond water got tacky, I painted on some earth tone paint to hide the blue earth.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183655.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183655.jpeg)
It is now 41 hours to the open house.
More in a few.
When the paint dried, I added another layer of dark brown paint to the pond water.
39.5 hours until the open house. No panic as yet. Just very disappointed I have to spend this extra time on the pond.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183739.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183739.jpeg)
You can see the uneven water in the above photo. It's the best I could do to repair the pond, at this point anyway.
You can see the paint and pond water drying and shrinking in the next photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg)
It is now 38 hours until the open house.
More in a few.
I told you the Deep Pour Water Murky was from the "X" Files or "Outer LImits". You probably said, "I think the guy is nuts or something.
Well, don't say I didn't warn you. Look at the picture again. Do you see the evil face in the water?
The head is turned at an angle. You can see the beady eyes, forehead, nose, mouth and chin. I gave Mr. Murphy credit for this but he won't come even take a look. I need to call Skully in on the case.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183756.jpeg)
More in a few.
I quickly mixed a fresh mix of murky water and poured it over the evil face and over the old water.
So far, so good. The face is gone and the water is level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183810.jpeg)
The cows came back and are now drinking the fresh water in the cow pond.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183822.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183822.jpeg)
37 hours until the open house and all is well once again. This is what I call one Heck of a save.
More in a few.
While all that water stuff was happening, I added some weeds to the Tahope River. The flow is from the West so the river junk accumulated around the dead tree and cypress trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183835.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183835.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183848.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183848.jpeg)
More in a few.
These folks should turn around now as they don't know the "Outer Limits" is just around the river bend.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183900.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030817183900.jpeg)
Do we hear banjo music?
Great looking water and great water save.
I am glad to see that the cows have clean water.
Great scene.
Jim
Great save Tom , do you have any idea what caused the problem?
Sometime water/moisture will do crazy things to epoxy and/or resins. Was it tacky/sticky when you removed it?
Maybe add a gator to the pond? ;D
dave
Hi Tom:
Beautiful water and great scenery as always.
Karl
Beautiful as always. Love the water. How about a couple of paddle ripples? Just saying. Marvelous scenes. I am sure that you will get many accolades tomorrow from your NMRA visitors. You have captured the true look of Florida. Looking forward to hearing all about your visitors and there impressions. Look out for possible leaners. there are always a few.
Have a great day my friend.
Frank / Erieman
When I first saw the tagline "cows are gone", I feared perhaps our late, lamented buddy 'Gnatshop and his merry band of brothers had come cow tipping. Happy and relieved to learn that was NOT the case.
Water on, Tom after you've finished your NMRA decompression.
Quote from: jrmueller on August 03, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
Do we hear banjo music?
Jim,
I certainly hope not. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 03, 2017, 08:33:43 PM
Great looking water and great water save.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 03, 2017, 10:53:59 PM
I am glad to see that the cows have clean water.
Great scene.
Jim
Jim,
Me too and thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on August 04, 2017, 03:12:28 AM
Great save Tom , do you have any idea what caused the problem?
Jan,
Thank you and no. I do have a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) though.
I usually pour the water over painted plywood. I filled this pond with spackle and used WS earth tones to cover the spackle. My belief is that the resin softened the thin paint and exposed the spackle thus affecting the resin.
The rapid hardening of the water occurred directly over the spackle. When I removed the offending resin water, the remaining resin water settled and dried normally. When the first water pour was about six hours in, I poured the second one and all went as planned.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 10:06:40 AMWas it tacky/sticky when you removed it?
Marty,
The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on August 04, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
Maybe add a gator to the pond? ;D
dave
Dave,
I have HO scale gators and they will go in the Suwannee River Lagoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on August 04, 2017, 04:45:18 PM
Hi Tom:
Beautiful water and great scenery as always.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you my friend, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on August 04, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
Beautiful as always. Love the water. How about a couple of paddle ripples? Just saying. Marvelous scenes. I am sure that you will get many accolades tomorrow from your NMRA visitors. You have captured the true look of Florida. Looking forward to hearing all about your visitors and there impressions. Look out for possible leaners. there are always a few.
Have a great day my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Afternoon my friend. I'm not sure the people in the canoes will be a permanent fixture. Ripples, it at all may come later but not before tomorrow. 8) 8)
I look forward to tomorrow just to see how many show up. Looking forward to meeting a couple of forum members whom plan on visiting.
I just got finished with two test visitors. My mother in law leaned on the layout twice. My Babe reached over the imaginary line several times. I'll be happy if only a few trees get broken.
I'll report tomorrow evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on August 04, 2017, 05:38:12 PM
When I first saw the tagline "cows are gone", I feared perhaps our late, lamented buddy 'Gnatshop and his merry band of brothers had come cow tipping. Happy and relieved to learn that was NOT the case.
Water on, Tom after you've finished your NMRA decompression.
Chip,
Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.
Hope all is well with him.
Tom ;D
I thought I'd show an over all view of both sides of the layout room. As I mentioned in the past the width is 11 ft. 4 inches and the length for the layout is 42+ feet.
Also, after tomorrow, this room won't be this clean for a very long time.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191041.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191041.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191056.jpeg)
This next picture will be picture number 3,600 from when I started this thread. I wonder how far along on the layout I'd be if I wasn't a member of the forum?
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040817191109.jpeg)
Tom
Great looking water and that sure is a clean and great looking layout room. I hope your have a wonderful day. I'm looking forward to your report.
Tom,
Congrats on the 3600 strip tease shots of your AS. Have fun tomorrow with all the lurkers and ferroequinologist gazers. I wonder how many complain tomorrow....... about having lower back pains from bending over and studying all the wonderful details you've built in for their viewing pleasure. KP-out...
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 10:06:40 AMWas it tacky/sticky when you removed it?
Marty,
The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.
Tom ;D
Hmm, it sounds more like a mix issue than water issue, unless there was moisture around the pond.
Tom,
I hope you have nothing but courteous and well mannered lookers with no leaners, or reachers as Frank describes them. The first picture you posted, a very neat and tidy view of the layout room is impressive, finished layouts don't look that good. My first impression was that you had a side business of forensic pathology, the center peninsula looks as if you are stacking the bodies under those blue cloths. Is this a subliminal warning, a sign for the leaners and reachers, because I think it is an effective visual deterrent, it will work? Have a great day, keep Bill busy on the throttle.
Bob
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:51:30 PM
Chip,
Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.
Hope all is well with him.
Tom ;D
If I can tell by the amount of Facebook posts he does every day and the humor of his FB posts I'd say David is doing fairly well, I just hope the Smokey Robinson song " Tears of a clown" is not applicable.
Enjoy your day Tom , hope you have lots of appreciative visitors , your layout surely deserves it.
Wow, those overall shots of the layout really hit home on how much work you've done. Beautiful work Tom!
Quote from: S&S RR on August 04, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
Great looking water and that sure is a clean and great looking layout room. I hope your have a wonderful day. I'm looking forward to your report.
John,
Thank you, very much appreciated.
I'll report later this evening if not to tired. Otherwise, tomorrow.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on August 04, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Tom,
Congrats on the 3600 strip tease shots of your AS. Have fun tomorrow with all the lurkers and ferroequinologist gazers. I wonder how many complain tomorrow....... about having lower back pains from bending over and studying all the wonderful details you've built in for their viewing pleasure. KP-out...
Thom,
Thanks very much. I appreciate the well wishes.
I got your emails, keep me informed as to any new stuff.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 04, 2017, 10:06:40 AMWas it tacky/sticky when you removed it?
Marty,
The middle section was hard and the edges were sticky/tacky.
Tom ;D
Hmm, it sounds more like a mix issue than water issue, unless there was moisture around the pond.
Marty,
Can't be a mix issue as all of it would have hardened like the center. It was all mixed in the same container for the required 15 minutes of fame.
No moisture at the time in the pond. Just unknown. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on August 05, 2017, 12:45:10 AM
Tom,
I hope you have nothing but courteous and well mannered lookers with no leaners, or reachers as Frank describes them. The first picture you posted, a very neat and tidy view of the layout room is impressive, finished layouts don't look that good. My first impression was that you had a side business of forensic pathology, the center peninsula looks as if you are stacking the bodies under those blue cloths. Is this a subliminal warning, a sign for the leaners and reachers, because I think it is an effective visual deterrent, it will work? Have a great day, keep Bill busy on the throttle.
Bob
Bob,
I think most visitors are on the whole courteous. If not, I have no problem asking anyone to leave.
I was a CSI for 9 years on the police department and spent my fair share photographing and video taping autopsies. I know how to cover up the dead and they will be if they get out of hand. ;D ;D ;D
Just kidding, well, no I'm not.
I'll make a full report on this adventure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on August 05, 2017, 03:28:32 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 04, 2017, 06:51:30 PM
Chip,
Speaking of Gman, have you heard from him? He's been on my mind and I found his address a few days ago.
Hope all is well with him.
Tom ;D
If I can tell by the amount of Facebook posts he does every day and the humor of his FB posts I'd say David is doing fairly well, I just hope the Smokey Robinson song " Tears of a clown" is not applicable.
Enjoy your day Tom , hope you have lots of appreciative visitors , your layout surely deserves it.
Jan,
Thanks very much for the update on Gman. I really miss his humor here but we do have Donato.
This should be a fun filled day, thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on August 05, 2017, 06:23:23 AM
Wow, those overall shots of the layout really hit home on how much work you've done. Beautiful work Tom!
Mark,
I appreciate your kind words on the layout work. It has been fun.
Tom ;D
Thanks for the photos showing the whole layout. I'm sure you will have tons of positive comments from your guests. Sit back and have a wonderful day. Jim
Looks amazing Tom! Best wishes for the open house today. Sorry I haven't been around but I'm rooting for your great success.
John
Quote from: jrmueller on August 05, 2017, 10:58:32 AM
Thanks for the photos showing the whole layout. I'm sure you will have tons of positive comments from your guests. Sit back and have a wonderful day. Jim
Jim,
You are welcome sir. The open house went very well and the layout did receive great reviews.
Thanks for your support.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on August 05, 2017, 11:46:30 AM
Looks amazing Tom! Best wishes for the open house today. Sorry I haven't been around but I'm rooting for your great success.
John
John,
Much appreciated, thank you. We had a great open house and you are welcome to come by anytime butty.
Tom ;D
As everyone knows I did have the NMRA open house yesterday. All went very well.
You can read my reflections of yesterday's main event here.
http://modelersforum.com/general-daily-discussion/reflections-of-my-nmra-open-house/msg77140/?topicseen#new (http://modelersforum.com/general-daily-discussion/reflections-of-my-nmra-open-house/msg77140/?topicseen#new)
Tom ;D
Tom,
Not wanting to hijack the Open House thread, I noticed what appears to be a staging yard 2' or 3' above floor level.
Do trains come up to the level we've all seen so many times through the ovalix or is there a long ascent we've not seen somewhere else? I don't recall seeing the lower level covered previously.
Thanks an d please keep up the great work!
Quote from: BandOGuy on August 06, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
Tom,
Not wanting to hijack the Open House thread, I noticed what appears to be a staging yard 2' or 3' above floor level.
Do trains come up to the level we've all seen so many times through the ovalix or is there a long ascent we've not seen somewhere else? I don't recall seeing the lower level covered previously.
Thanks an d please keep up the great work!
Chip,
My friend, you may hijack any of my threads you want.
All trains from the lower level staging area use the Ovalix to ascend to the second and third levels. They return using the same Ovalix single track from the third level to the second and staging level.
There is no one long ascent from level to level.
I think my Ovalix and staging tracks can be see on pages 12 and up on the first A&S RR thread. I've posted it here for your review and convenience.
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build/165/
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Okay, back to work. The open house was a very nice break from the layout work but there is still work to be done.
First some old business to finish. The track leading to and including tracks at the small lubritorium need to be ballasted. The two lubritorium structures need to be finished with interior detail, lights(LEDs) and etc. Supporting details and scenery also need to be finished.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124604.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124604.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124617.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124617.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124631.jpeg)
More in a few.
Glad to see you're not letting the grass grow under your tootsies.....got to meet that Jan. 2018 deadline..... ;)
The North reverse loop on the second level needs trees in the center of the loop. Trees and bushes need to be added to the blue foam. The photo backdrop needs to go on the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg)
Continued in a few. I'm getting a cold Diet Pepsi.
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 06, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Glad to see you're not letting the grass grow under your tootsies.....got to meet that Jan. 2018 deadline..... ;)
Greg,
Thanks for stopping by. No, no time to lag or slack off. I can't seem to stop the ball from rolling even if it is uphill.
The deadline Greg is referring to is I want to have some track laid and a train on the third level by January 1, 2018!
Tom ;D
The last of the old business is the area where the oil facility is located. An oil platform needs to be scratch built and supporting structures need to be added. Can't forget the supporting scenery details.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124658.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124658.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124716.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124716.jpeg)
More in a few.
I'm getting excited about starting some new projects on the second level of the layout.
I'll be working on this section as I finish the other areas.
The road from the MOW will continue down a portion of the center section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124730.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124730.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124744.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124744.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124829.jpeg)
The road will turn North and run parallel with the single track.
The road and single track will run parallel across the river. The river area will be approximately 3.5 feet across. However, the actually river width, waters edge to edge, will be determined as I build the bridge supports.
The town of Tahope will be located North of the St. Johns River.
I borrowed the roadway from Eaton's Curve area to show how the two will run across the river.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124843.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124843.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124856.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124856.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124909.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124909.jpeg)
More in a few.
I haven't decided which bridges I'll use for crossing the river.
The first bridge set is two Atlas Through Truss -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134713.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134713.jpeg)
The second set is two 40+ year old Campbell Truss Bridges -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134729.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134729.jpeg)
The last is an out of production Arched Pratt Bridge by Heljan. I only have one of these so I'd have to use Central Valley Plate Girder Bridges on each end.
Decisions, decisions.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134741.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817134741.jpeg)
Done for the day posting. Back to the layout work.
It all looks great. I like the first bridge you posted best. Have you decided to do the center pier before the 3rd level?
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 06, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
It all looks great. I like the first bridge you posted best. Have you decided to do the center pier before the 3rd level?
Curt,
Thanks, I've decided I like the first two. They look better and are much newer models.
I'm only doing the second level river area and then the third. I may do them both as I go, in 8 foot sections at a time.
Tom ;D
Hi Tom,
I am glad your open house went well this past weekend. I like the first two bridges better also.
Tom,
It struck me funny, watching you model bridges for a scene is like shopping for pickles in a grocery store... You have too many choices! ha. I like the government approach to modeling. Why have one, when you can have them all. Leave no bridge unless it's over a river. Thanx Thom...
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Been a while since I stopped in. Looking really great Tom. First 2 bridges are my pick as well.
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 12, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Shady Florida real estate? I'm shocked!
dave
Quote from: sdrees on August 07, 2017, 09:25:32 PM
Hi Tom,
I am glad your open house went well this past weekend. I like the first two bridges better also.
Steve,
Thank you, we did have a great open house and much fun. I'm going with the first two I showed.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on August 07, 2017, 09:49:57 PM
Tom,
It struck me funny, watching you model bridges for a scene is like shopping for pickles in a grocery store... You have too many choices! ha. I like the government approach to modeling. Why have one, when you can have them all. Leave no bridge unless it's over a river. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
You are a funny guy. When one has been hoarding RR stuff as long as I have the bridges seem to multiply. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Bob,
I don't know but I'm sure there are many shady characters in Tahope. As of now, the Perkins Farm is not for sale.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on August 12, 2017, 06:29:34 AM
Been a while since I stopped in. Looking really great Tom. First 2 bridges are my pick as well.
Mark,
Happy you stopped by for a visit. I'm going with the first two and they seem to be the popular choice.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 12, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Yea, sure! You probably have them all on speed dial.....just like the throttle. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: deemery on August 12, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 12, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 08, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
I don't know Tom.....you may have to keep an eye open for some shady real estate developer from Tahope who'll want to buy farmer Perkins land and turn it into subdivisions. ;)
Shady RE Developer.....not anyone I would know..... ;D ;D ;D
Shady Florida real estate? I'm shocked!
dave
Dave,
I know your comment was tongue in cheek but here is a good one.
Trust me, it is all over the place down here.
Jimmy Hoffa even got in on one of the deals. He bought several hundred acres of swamp land near Cocoa Beach, Fl. He had white beach sand pumped in and then took aerial photos of the white sandy roads. Went north and sold the swamp lots with white beach sand roads to idiots in the north. The scam was referred to as Sun Valley Estates.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964 (http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964)
Tom ;D
I did some work on the small lubritorium and oil storage building.
I made the interior pad for the oil storage area with .030 sheet styrene.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171330.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171330.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171348.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171348.jpeg)
More in a few.
I filled in all the between the track areas with the same .030 styrene.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171404.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171404.jpeg)
The interior slabs were painted with Floquil Concrete (not shown).
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171418.jpeg)
More in a few.
As previously mentioned, I painted both structures with Floquil Zinc Chromate Primer. The windows were painted with Floquil dark Green.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171432.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171432.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171516.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171516.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171528.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100817171528.jpeg)
Roof exhaust vents were added.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125614.jpeg)
And, the ballast was added next.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125628.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125628.jpeg)
I'll have more to report tomorrow.
Tom,
Did you Iron those tracks? I don't see a wrinkle or bend anywhere! I thought you were a ACL modeler. Oh wait, you're an AS modeler, that's right! ;D Gonna be a nice non-wrinkle scene when you're done bossman! Thanx Thom...
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 12, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Dave,
I know your comment was tongue in cheek but here is a good one.
Trust me, it is all over the place down here.
Jimmy Hoffa even got in on one of the deals. He bought several hundred acres of swamp land near Cocoa Beach, Fl. He had white beach sand pumped in and then took aerial photos of the white sandy roads. Went north and sold the swamp lots with white beach sand roads to idiots in the north. The scam was referred to as Sun Valley Estates.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964 (http://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/us-v-hoffa-1964)
Tom ;D
You need a scene on your model RR of the discovery of Jimmy Hoffa!
dave
But I thought he was planted in the end zone of the meadow lands ? ! ?
See ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on August 13, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
But I thought he was planted in the end zone of the meadow lands ? ! ?
See ya
Bob
Isn't that one of the places they actually dug up looking for him?
dave
We had a little excitement this afternoon on the Perkins' farm.
Seems like Mama Perkins was yelling at Fatty Patty to get off her butt and do some work. Things got out of hand and the local Po Po got called.
This is a rural county farm so normally the Tahope County Sheriff would be called. All the county mounties were busy. A mutual aide agreement with the state and county allows the Highway Patrol to respond when the sherrif deputies aren't available.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172400.jpeg)
When the HP arrived the Signal 22 (civil dispute) was still in progress.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817173605.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817173605.jpeg)
More in a few.
We see Mama Perkins yelling at Fatty Patty. Farmer Perkins is staying out of the disunderstanding and misaspute (this is known as cracker speak) he is just watching from a short distance. He knows better than to get in the middle of this one.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172318.jpeg)
We get a little closer so we can hear what is being said.
Ma Perkins: I teld ya to git tha broom an sweep tha porch, not sitton tha porch.
Fatty Patty: I doesn't wanna to sweep da porch, I'm tard.
Ma Perkins: Dosn't cared how tard ya be, I teld ya to sweep tha porch.
Fatty Patty: Cusin Sweaty Betty over at Eaton's curve ain't gotta sweep herin porch.
Ma Perkins: Theys ain't got no broom to sweep with. Get yourn butt up and git sweeping.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172333.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172333.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
All this time Grandpa Perkins is sitting on the other side of the porch and he ain't saying nuttin either.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172347.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190817172347.jpeg)
The state trooper got back in the car an left. Seems like Ma Perkins is going to get the last word in on the porch sweeping.
Nice story Tom. I hope your toe feels better.
Oh, man!
If them there fewdin' words got anymore uppity, that could have easily turned into a 5150 call pronto... Wonderful modeling & back story!
Thanx Thom...
It looks like Grandpa is wondering why the path is wider than the porch stairs.
Tom,
You can certainly spin a yarn and it goes so well with the LPs. It is as if you can see Ms. Perkins lips move. If you get tired of this modeling stuff I think you may have another vocation to fall back on if you get bored. Good story, an illustrative scene and great modeling.
Bob
You sure that is Fatty Patty, not Fat Heidi? :-\
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 19, 2017, 06:19:37 PM
Nice story Tom. I hope your toe feels better.
Curt,
Thanks, the toe is slowly, very slowly healing.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on August 19, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
Oh, man!
If them there fewdin' words got anymore uppity, that could have easily turned into a 5150 call pronto... Wonderful modeling & back story!
Thanx Thom...
Thom,
When Ma Perkins speaks, there ain't nobody else saying nuttin.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 19, 2017, 10:36:42 PM
It looks like Grandpa is wondering why the path is wider than the porch stairs.
He knows the spot next to the steps is where he jumps down and the weeds are growing on the path on thuther side. 8)
Tom ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: RWL on August 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Tom,
You can certainly spin a yarn and it goes so well with the LPs. It is as if you can see Ms. Perkins lips move. If you get tired of this modeling stuff I think you may have another vocation to fall back on if you get bored. Good story, an illustrative scene and great modeling.
Bob
Bob,
Hey, thanks for stopping by. Usin crackers can spin all kinda yarns. Appreciate the compliment on the scene and story. Hope you have time to stop by next time yourn in the area.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 20, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
You sure that is Fatty Patty, not Fat Heidi? :-\
Greg,
Yep, FH (Fat Haydee) is in a class all her own.
Tom ;D
I'm way behind on the updates for the thread. Sorry 'bout that.
I've been working on the area shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-060817124645.jpeg)
I took the blue foam block and covered it with the WS Earth ground cover.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125550.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125550.jpeg)
More in a few.
When the scenery material dried, I brushed it into a pile.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125645.jpeg)
I reclaimed it by scooping it into the WS jar.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125700.jpeg)
More in a few.
Tom, it's good to see you posting progress photos again.
I was left with this.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125714.jpeg)
Fast forward and I added all my other layers. I didn't do a fine cover as it will be somewhat back in the corner and covered with trees and under brush.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125726.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125726.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125745.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 22, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Tom, it's good to see you posting progress photos again.
Curt,
Thanks very much my friend. I'm getting back into the saddle a little at a time.
Tom ;D
I turned it on edge and added the ground cover to the edges.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125759.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110817125759.jpeg)
I had one more 4 foot section of Joey Ricard's fantastic photo back drop to add to the wall north of the Ovalix.
I used a very tacky 3M spray glue/adhesive so newspapers were a must. It sprays on the wall but the over spray is just as tacky and I didn't want any on the track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143621.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143634.jpeg)
I only went down the wall four feet. When the third level is in place, you'll have to get down low to see it doesn't extend the length of the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143648.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used some spackle to fill in a few bumps.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143701.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-220817143701.jpeg)
I had one more 4 foot section of Joey Ricard's fantastic photo back drop to add to the wall north of the Ovalix.
I used a very tacky 3M spray glue/adhesive so newspapers were a must. It sprays on the wall but the over spray is just as tacky and I didn't want any on the track.
Tom,
I agree Joey R. has awesome looking backdrops that's for dang sure! Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on August 22, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
Tom,
I agree Joey R. has awesome looking backdrops that's for dang sure! Thanx Thom...
The best on the market!
http://www.tracksidescenery.com/index.php?
Tom ;D
Is old Asian proverb: Locos no like tacky tracky!
And I'll take 2 from Column B.
Virtually all printed photographs, whether it is inkjet, pigment, laser, or heat transfer are affected by UV, heat and moisture. It (water) will destroy prints the fastest, especially if you try to wipe it off. It is equally damaging to negatives as I once found out with a large negative of a picture of the surface of Mars.
Most framed photos are not affected by splashed on water as there us glass or plastic protecting them. However, midel train backgrounds live in a moist environment during construction. These backgrounds need protection that is transparent and matte in nature. The glossy photo papers are too shiny and could do with a bit of a dulling.
There is a solution that I use for my "art" photography called "Preserve-It". A light dusting or two of this spray provides UV and surface moisture protection. This is more of a fine art solution, but normal clear matte art spray will work in a pinch.
I would suggest you take a scrap photo or background and apply some Preserve-It to see if it is suitable for your sitituation. Never experiment on the "real" to see if it will work fir you. Spray it on a horizontal surface to minimize drips, spray VERY lightly on vertical surfaces.
Note: this does not protect for excess humidity or wet walls were water can get into the edges or backing of the bacground.
Just some thoughts.
Quote from: BandOGuy on August 22, 2017, 09:37:03 PM
Is old Asian proverb: Locos no like tacky tracky!
And I'll take 2 from Column B.
Chip,
Wouldn't that be, "likey tacky tracky"? 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 22, 2017, 10:00:42 PM
Virtually all printed photographs, whether it is inkjet, pigment, laser, or heat transfer are affected by UV, heat and moisture. It (water) will destroy prints the fastest, especially if you try to wipe it off. It is equally damaging to negatives as I once found out with a large negative of a picture of the surface of Mars.
Most framed photos are not affected by splashed on water as there us glass or plastic protecting them. However, midel train backgrounds live in a moist environment during construction. These backgrounds need protection that is transparent and matte in nature. The glossy photo papers are too shiny and could do with a bit of a dulling.
There is a solution that I use for my "art" photography called "Preserve-It". A light dusting or two of this spray provides UV and surface moisture protection. This is more of a fine art solution, but normal clear matte art spray will work in a pinch.
I would suggest you take a scrap photo or background and apply some Preserve-It to see if it is suitable for your sitituation. Never experiment on the "real" to see if it will work fir you. Spray it on a horizontal surface to minimize drips, spray VERY lightly on vertical surfaces.
Note: this does not protect for excess humidity or wet walls were water can get into the edges or backing of the bacground.
Just some thoughts.
Marty,
Great idea but too late for this railroad.
Tom ;D
I dunno Tom.......
This is getting cool......
If you are not careful you are going to have a real railroad on your hands here..
see ya
Bob
Tom,
Your scenery continues to amaze me. Keep it coming.
Jim
Wow, what a thread! I'm going to give this a good looking over. Nice job Tom!
Quote from: bparrish on August 23, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
I dunno Tom.......
This is getting cool......
If you are not careful you are going to have a real railroad on your hands here..
see ya
Bob
Bob,
Thanks, much apprecitate you stopping by the thread. I told the Judge we need to apply for a Federal Grant and use the money on the railroad. The Dodo birds in DC would probably give it to us. But then one day they come knocking on the door and want all the money back with interest.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 23, 2017, 07:34:58 PM
Tom,
Your scenery continues to amaze me. Keep it coming.
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thank you for the kind words on the scenery. Stay tuned as I'll be posting more scenery pictures in next few days.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on August 25, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
Wow, what a thread! I'm going to give this a good looking over. Nice job Tom!
Leo,
Thank you kind sir for the compliment on the layout work. Check it out and let me know how it looks from Texas. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I have a little update for today but I'm still behind on the thread.
I filled in the north reverse loop area with the basic scenery. I let the grass encroach on the reverse tracks as the A&S doesn't spray for weeds in the back woods.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180445.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180458.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180458.jpeg)
I have about 75+ trees to add to this area.
More in a few.
Today I finished the trees for the reverse loop area.
It doesn't look like it but in this container I have 39 trees ready to be planted. I have another 35 in a box under the layout.
I also have some of Kris Cutler's fantastic trees to use as fore ground trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180512.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250817180512.jpeg)
The area should look similar to the area behind the lubritorium as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300717175418.jpeg)
Scenery is coming along very nicely Tom. What is your plan to hide the Helix?
Steve,
Thank you for the compliment.
Hiding the Ovalix is a long sad story. But, here it is in a few words. The Ovalix will stay in view. I was going to put the Helix in the opposite corner of the room and close it in. However, the Judge wants to sit at the lubritorium and watch the trains go around, around and around again, up and down and down and up.
There you have it. 8)
Tom
Looking good Tom. 8)
Looking really good Tom. I look forward to seeing your progress.
Can't wait Tom ... here is an idea... Make the ovalix look like a parking garage with those circular exit ramps. Or how about turn it into an office building with large glass windows ;D ;D ;D
Once the Judge issues a ruling, the matter is closed (until further appeal)...only the Babe is a higher court and I imagine she will declare this matter to be frivolous and unworthy of her attention.
John
Hello Tom, More outstanding work.
ed keen-Lithia
Tom,
Are you telling me that the judge is a little dizzy?
ACL 1504,
Hey, I was just perusing your great pictorial here and I'm not sure if you mentioned this before or not. On your helix, was curious, what technique are you going to use to hide it or are you, when you get to that point? Thanx Thom...
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 25, 2017, 08:40:29 PM
Looking good Tom. 8)
Greg,
Thank you and thanks for the SB coupons.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 25, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Looking really good Tom. I look forward to seeing your progress.
Curt,
Thank you, come by anytime you are in the neighborhood.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on August 25, 2017, 11:11:22 PM
Can't wait Tom ... here is an idea... Make the ovalix look like a parking garage with those circular exit ramps. Or how about turn it into an office building with large glass windows ;D ;D ;D
Marty,
Yes, your September 7 visit is just around the corner. Looking forward to meeting you and Kelsey.
Actually when the third level is added you won't see as much of the Ovalix as you do now. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on August 26, 2017, 08:54:26 AM
Once the Judge issues a ruling, the matter is closed (until further appeal)...only the Babe is a higher court and I imagine she will declare this matter to be frivolous and unworthy of her attention.
John
John,
So true sir, you just don't know how much influence my Babe has over any court ruling. However, when asked what she thought she said, "Why ask me, you'll do what you want on the railroad anyway." that is also so true. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: engine909 on August 26, 2017, 11:02:52 AM
Hello Tom, More outstanding work.
ed keen-Lithia
Hey Ed,
Thanks for stopping by and for the nice compliment on the layout, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on August 26, 2017, 01:00:55 PM
Tom,
Are you telling me that the judge is a little dizzy?
Steve,
Certainly not, but when we both watch the trains from the staging level to the third level, all bets are off. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on August 26, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
ACL 1504,
Hey, I was just perusing your great pictorial here and I'm not sure if you mentioned this before or not. On your helix, was curious, what technique are you going to use to hide it or are you, when you get to that point? Thanx Thom...
Thommy,
Wake up my friend. I'm not going to hide it at all. I want to see all my brass pulling freight and passenger equipment up the Ovalix. I even have plans for helpers.
Tom ;D
This afternoon I have plans on planting 100 trees in the north reverse loop area.
Here is my ready made forest.
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More late this afternoon.
I finished adding trees to the reverse loop area on the north end of the Ovalix.
I'm not going to feed ya'll a lot of narrative but let the photos show the work in progress and finish.
I have approximately 26 of Kris Cutler's trees in the foreground. Enjoy.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153040.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270817153040.jpeg)
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Very nice. Blends perfectly with the background.
John
I thought your first layout was great, this one is going to be/is even better! I've gone backwards about 29 pages and love what I have seen so far. That river scene is very very well done. Bill's palm trees look terrific and are a prefect fit! I'll be picking it back up on page 30 tomorrow.
Nice job!
Excellent job on the reverse loop. The trees really do blend into the backdrop. A nice thing you can do with your bulletproof track is move scenery close to the track without damaging it messing with derailed cars.
Hi Tom:
Everything looks great as usual. Keep up the good work.
Karl
The reverse loop is looking sweet Tom! Love those trees and how they blend nicely with the backdrop. Will have to start calling you Tommy Appleseed!
Good Morning Tom,
Been off the thread a few days. Been driving up to the 37th Narrow Gauge Convention and too tired to look at the forum and catch up on your progress. Whoa, my friend, you are going like crazy. Everything is looking marvelous. Really nice progress on the scenery around the ovalex. Love the trees. I will be posting some pics of the convention. Should be fun. Our first time. Yakima Apples will be in the contest room tomorrow. Talk to you soon. Keep up the beautiful work.
Frank / Erieman
Where O where has our friend Tom gone with his layout photos? :'(
Quote from: Cuse on August 27, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Very nice. Blends perfectly with the background.
John
John,
Thank you Butty, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on August 27, 2017, 07:05:49 PM
I thought your first layout was great, this one is going to be/is even better! I've gone backwards about 29 pages and love what I have seen so far. That river scene is very very well done. Bill's palm trees look terrific and are a prefect fit! I'll be picking it back up on page 30 tomorrow.
Nice job!
Leo and Lorrie,
Thank you for the very generous and kind compliment. I've really enjoyed this layout better than any previous ones. Also, I've become much better at scenery than the last one as well.
I'll be doing a post on how we did the palm trees later this month. It will be on this thread.
Thank you again. Hope you like the other pages.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 28, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Excellent job on the reverse loop. The trees really do blend into the backdrop. A nice thing you can do with your bulletproof track is move scenery close to the track without damaging it messing with derailed cars.
Curt,
Thank you. I'm very pleased how this one turned out. Time to build the oil facility.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on August 28, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Hi Tom:
Everything looks great as usual. Keep up the good work.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks very much. If I can get my layout to look as great as your structures I'd be one happy camper. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on August 29, 2017, 06:36:35 PM
The reverse loop is looking sweet Tom! Love those trees and how they blend nicely with the backdrop. Will have to start calling you Tommy Appleseed!
Mark,
Very much appreciate your support and checking in. The trees do blend very well with Joey's backdrop.
I've been called many names so T A won't hurt one bit. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on August 29, 2017, 10:36:50 PM
Good Morning Tom,
Been off the thread a few days. Been driving up to the 37th Narrow Gauge Convention and too tired to look at the forum and catch up on your progress. Whoa, my friend, you are going like crazy. Everything is looking marvelous. Really nice progress on the scenery around the ovalex. Love the trees. I will be posting some pics of the convention. Should be fun. Our first time. Yakima Apples will be in the contest room tomorrow. Talk to you soon. Keep up the beautiful work.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I've been off the grid a few days myself.
I haven't heard how you or Steve did in the contest room. What's the news?
I've done some work this afternoon and will be back on the layout full time Monday afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 01, 2017, 02:29:59 PM
Where O where has our friend Tom gone with his layout photos? :'(
Curt,
I'm here, just took a few days off for life and other things.
I have some photos to post later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Welcome back Aloysius. KP-out...
Hey all,
I appreciate all the PMs and emails asking if all is well with me. IT IS and thanks for your concerns. I didn't realize the number of folks who want their daily dose of the layout progress. Not to worry, I'm still at it.
The past two weeks have been full of several Doctor appointments both for my Babe and myself. Pam has had many visits and re-visits to the doctor in relation to her cataract surgery. She had the ocular implants in both eyes and sees 20/20 now.
I've had my follow up appointments for all my doctors as well. All is well but certainly an inconvenience to make all the appointments in the middle of the day.
Also, Pam's very good friend passed away this past week after a long illness. :'( She was only 62. I've been helping Pam with that issue as well.
I'll be back to full duty this up coming week.
Again, thanks for all those who checked in.
Tom and Pam ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
Welcome back Aloysius. KP-out...
KPI,
Thank you kind sir. It's good to be back in the layout saddle.
Tom ;D
Blazing Saddles that is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cDfnQD0ws
I did manage to get some time in on the layout this afternoon.
I'm working on building an oil facility for the tank cars. I've had the Magnuson Oil Tank kit for the past 20+ years and finally put it together this afternoon.
The tank is 43 HO scale feet across and 46 HO scale feet high.
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More in a few.
I used the paper template to determine where to drill the holes for the curved ladder.
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Of course as my luck would have it, the little tabs on the ladder stairs were broken off. This made gluing the curved stairs a little tricksie to the tank side. But it did get done.
Fast forward and the tank is now complete.
I had the one piece of sprue left and I cut the two ends off and made them into pipes at the bottom of the tank.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030917160400.jpeg)
More in a few.
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This is where the tank will be located. Ya'll have seen it here in numerous previous pictures.
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T. could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...
Nice job Tom.
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.
Jim
Tom...
What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???
Scenery is great
Thanx
Bob
Quote from: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
T. could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...
KPI,
Let me put it this way, "NOT IN THIS LIFETIME"!
KPII
Quote from: jimmillho on September 03, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.
Jim
Jim,
Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on September 03, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.
Jim
Jim,
Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.
Tom ;D
I hear my mom callin me. I think I'll take my throttle and go home... :P
Quote from: bparrish on September 04, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Tom...
What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???
Scenery is great
Thanx
Bob
Bob,
Thank you for the compliment on the scenery, much appreciated.
At the start of this layout, the Judge and I discussed how I wanted to build the Helix. Since a 36" radius Helix would take a minimum 6 foot diameter area, I made the decision to put it in the little alcove of the layout room.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg)
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Once I looked at the area, I decided to expand the Helix and make it an Ovailx, my word for the new Helix.
I stretched the Helix to include a section of 3 feet of straight track on two sides and 8 inches of straight track on the other two sides. This lessened the drag of the trains going up the Ovalix.
This Ovalix is really cool and I enjoy seeing the trains going up and down.
So, no plans are in the near future or future to enclose the Ovalix. One revolution is 26 feet giving me about a 1% incline. Not to bad for a railroad model.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on September 03, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
That will be a great looking Tank as soon as it is painted to look like what Thom suggested.
Jim
Jim,
Refer to my response to Thom. Nuff said. Nice try though.
Tom ;D
I hear my mom callin me. I think I'll take my throttle and go home... :P
KPI,
I thought I heard Joe calling you. Joe Momma that is. ;D ;D ;D
KPII
shut up!
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Quote from: ACL1504 on September 04, 2017, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: bparrish on September 04, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Tom...
What is your plan for enclosing the helix / ovalix ???
Scenery is great
Thanx
Bob
Bob,
At the start of this layout, the Judge and I discussed how I wanted to build the Helix. Since a 36" radius Helix would take a minimum 6 foot diameter area, I made the decision to put it in the little alcove of the layout room.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160514191620.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161925.jpeg)
Once I looked at the area, I decided to expand the Helix and make it an Ovailx, my word for the new Helix.
I stretched the Helix to include a section of 3 feet of straight track on two sides and 8 inches of straight track on the other two sides. This lessened the drag of the trains going up the Ovalix.
This Ovalix is really cool and I enjoy seeing the trains going up and down.
So, no plans are in the near future or future to enclose the Ovalix. One revolution is 26 feet giving me about a 1% incline. Not to bad for a railroad model.
Tom ;D
Looks like when the Gorre & Daphetid was started.
Quote from: tct855 on September 04, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
shut up!
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Alrighty then!
Quote from: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
T. could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...
Thanks Tom for your response to this suggestion.
There are probably a few of the posters here old enough to recognize the blue figure painted on the tank by a peace loving artist in the late 1960's. I used to drive by this disgusting display on my way to work in Boston daily. And despite the artists protestations, you'll never convince the veterans of Viet Nam that that figure is accidental.
Quote from: BandOGuy on September 04, 2017, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: tct855 on September 03, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
T. could I suggest this paint scheme for your AS...
Thanks Tom for your response to this suggestion.
There are probably a few of the posters here old enough to recognize the blue figure painted on the tank by a peace loving artist in the late 1960's. I used to drive by this disgusting display on my way to work in Boston daily. And despite the artists protestations, you'll never convince the veterans of Viet Nam that that figure is accidental.
You get it! :) and so does ACL 1504...
Thom,
To much Rainbow Coalition for me.
Tom
The MOW crew is getting things ready in case track repairs are necessary after Hurricane Irma passes through.
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An ACL Geep is on the way to pull the MOW cars.
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More in a few.
We see a ACL freight coming by the MOW area. It appears a second section of this train is soon to follow as indicated by the green marker lights.
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More in a few.
After the long freight passes the ACL Geep is given time to back to the MOW cars.
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Now the crew is hunkered down and waiting on Irma.
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More in a few.
I spent a few hours cleaning the Ovalix and vacuuming the scenery material off the tracks. It appears I got quite a bit of stuff on the tracks from my last work session.
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This is what I see when sitting inside the Ovalix.
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It won't be long and I'll be working on finishing the Ovalix to include the upper level track.
Nice pictures Tom. Be safe with your ACL crew.
Thanks for the pics Tom , always good to see more pics of your railroad. Be safe.
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.
Jim
Interesting view from inside the Ovalix. Good to see that your MOW crew are on top of the Irma mess and ready to go!
Quote from: jimmillho on September 09, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.
Jim
I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out. You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Tom,
Hope you paid the MOW crew OT to clear up the tracks from the storm...Glad that the ACL had no major damage...Happy RRing !!! ;)
Tommy
Glad you're ok Tom.
Sorry for the loss of your friend
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 08, 2017, 07:03:06 PM
Nice pictures Tom. Be safe with your ACL crew.
Curt,
Thanks, the ACL Crew came through fine.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on September 09, 2017, 03:22:46 AM
Thanks for the pics Tom , always good to see more pics of your railroad. Be safe.
Jan,
Thanks for stopping by and checking. I'll start back on the layout full time tomorrow, Monday morning.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on September 09, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.
Jim
Jim,
Here are some early under construction inside views.
Tom ;D
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Quote from: MAP on September 10, 2017, 06:36:45 AM
Interesting view from inside the Ovalix. Good to see that your MOW crew are on top of the Irma mess and ready to go!
Mark,
Thanks for stopping by. The MOW crew tied everything down for Irma and we all survived.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 14, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on September 09, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.
Jim
I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out. You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm glad Bob said it! Not that I wouldn't have. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on September 15, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Tom,
Hope you paid the MOW crew OT to clear up the tracks from the storm...Glad that the ACL had no major damage...Happy RRing !!! ;)
Tommy
Tommy,
We all survived Irma and trains are still running on schedule.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on September 16, 2017, 12:14:30 AM
Glad you're ok Tom.
Sorry for the loss of your friend
Leo and Lorrie,
Thank you. Haydee was one of Pam's best friends. She had some dental work done, got an infection from the work and developed a staph infection. The infection got into her heart and then brain. She literally lingered for almost 8 months.
Tom ;D
I mentioned earlier in the thread I'll be back on the layout work full time starting tomorrow, Monday, Sept. 18.
I'd also missed a golden opportunity to add a little real life to the layout thread.
Yesterday, the Judge came over and mentioned we should have built a small area where the trees were all down and junk all over the place. That would have really been neat after the Irma storm.
However, I mentioned to the Judge one important thought.
Who was going to clean it all up? 8) 8)
I'll have an update on my latest project tomorrow evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 17, 2017, 02:06:45 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 14, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on September 09, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
I always wondered what it looked like from the inside.
Jim
I figured you would have walked back there and checked it out. You probably wouldn't even need to duck to get back there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm glad Bob said it! Not that I wouldn't have. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
HA, I wouldn't bet any money on that ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
I have a confession of sorts to make.
I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what. No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.
I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.
Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water. ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.
However, I do have a little update.
Tom ;D
For a few weeks now I've been trying to get to work on the oil structure and tank car loading platform.
I was going to scratch build the tank car platform but decided it would make more sense to use the Walters kits as they have all the goodies like pipes, racks, platform hoses, etc.
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I plan on kit bashing the four kits shown above into one long platform to service the tank cars. One platform will service four tankers and I have room to service 10. So, three boxes would fit the bill but I'll have an extra in case I need a smaller one on the third level.
Back in a few, I'm going to chug-a-lug a nice cold Diet Pepsi.
In this same area, I'll use the Walthers Interstate Fuel & Oil facitity. This kit has four tanks and an area where I can have fuel oil service to fuel trucks.
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I'm not sure I'll use the quonset hut building but it is period appropriate for the A&S RR.
We used to have a large gas plant here in Orlando. The tanks were black and nasty not to mention it smelled really bad, but I love going by it as a kid.
Smoke was coming out of the stacks and steam from many of the pipe fittings. It was wonderful and I loved it.
George Sellios painted his fuel tanks a Grimy Black. I'm thinking about silver tanks and Grimy black pipes and platforms. Any thoughts ya'll have on this. I put this at the bottom to see who is actually reading vs. just picture surfing. 8) 8)
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Hey Tom,
First off, I'm sure it's natural to get a little burned out at the pace you were going to get ready for the open house. Sit back, crack open a DP and enjoy. The use of both of those kits will make for a very active, and great looking scene. Looking forward to seeing it built and up and running!
Tom, go to the wild-side and with a color, like blue, yellow and brown
Maybe take a look at how Cliff Powers used the kit
http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html
The Tanks that I remember from years ago were Silver, although they were faded to a very light Grey. I can't recall what the pipes looked like.
Jim
Tom , I had that same feeling for most part of the year , up and till a week or 2 ago, now I'm in the train room again. You'll be your usual self soon enough , until then take it easy , it's just a hobby.
The tanks look good in both colors , I think weathering them appropriately is more important then silver or grimy black.
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
I have a confession of sorts to make.
I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what. No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.
I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.
Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water. ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.
However, I do have a little update.
Tom ;D
That happens from time to time. I've been in a bit of a funk myself lately and passing up opportunities to spend time at the work bench. I know I'll get over it. It seems to happen to me when I have too many things on my plate, other than model building, that I should be working on. Either at work and/or around the house.
I think it's kind of natural after having met a deadline to feel a bit down afterward. I've felt the same way about building stuff since I started the new job. Part of my issue is fatigue, but I'd also finished my first real portion of scenery on the layout. Last week I started a small kit and a couple of boxcars to see if I can get back at it.
Jeff
I'll defer to the wisdom of others regarding the lack of interest in the layout. Without trying to sound melodramatic, be encouraged it hasn't spread to other parts of your life. That's when the real problems occur. And I'm not convinced that the "fatigue" you're experiencing is not a part of the process of "getting older". 8)
One thing that has worked for me is to build a kit/structure in another scale. Maybe you can grab a good O Scale kit and work on that.
dave
Once you get started with your oil facility the inspiration will come back!
I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out
I like the grimy look on the tanks. They definitely look like they have been sitting there awhile. I have run into modelers block before and what I did was do little projects for several weeks and by then I was ready to do something larger.
Quote from: MAP on September 18, 2017, 06:42:02 PM
Hey Tom,
First off, I'm sure it's natural to get a little burned out at the pace you were going to get ready for the open house. Sit back, crack open a DP and enjoy. The use of both of those kits will make for a very active, and great looking scene. Looking forward to seeing it built and up and running!
Mark,
I appreciate the comment. I didn't think I'd get burned out but apparently I did just that. I'm also back on the Diet Pepsi. I'm working slowly on the two kits and will have a short update later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on September 18, 2017, 09:17:40 PM
Tom, go to the wild-side and with a color, like blue, yellow and brown
Marty,
I'm not that brave! 8) I don't mind getting on the wild side but not when it comes to colors on the layout. Picture a chicken here. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: jonnyci on September 18, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Maybe take a look at how Cliff Powers used the kit
http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html (http://www.magnoliaroute.com/mississippi-level.html)
jonnici,
Thanks for stopping by. My Babe and I visited Cliff's Magnolia Route in early June of 2014. Hard to believe it's been three years already.
I went back and looked at my pictures of his layout and the fuel tanks. He had some a dark color, some were silver and it looks like some were either off white or gray.
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/cliff-powers'-mississippi-alabama-gulf-the-magnolia-route/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/cliff-powers'-mississippi-alabama-gulf-the-magnolia-route/)
Here are a couple of pictures from my visit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030614192301.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030614192301.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100814152109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100814152109.jpeg)
I really like the color variation in this next photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240814155510.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240814155510.jpeg)
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on September 18, 2017, 11:24:56 PM
The Tanks that I remember from years ago were Silver, although they were faded to a very light Grey. I can't recall what the pipes looked like.
Jim
Jim,
The gas plant was on West Robinson Street and all I remember is that the entire area was black, very nasty black. But then I was only 12, 58 years ago so my memory isn't that sharp. :'(
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on September 19, 2017, 03:33:31 AM
Tom , I had that same feeling for most part of the year , up and till a week or 2 ago, now I'm in the train room again. You'll be your usual self soon enough , until then take it easy , it's just a hobby.
The tanks look good in both colors , I think weathering them appropriately is more important then silver or grimy black.
Jan,
Thanks for the support. My wife said, "By me something and you'll find you need to get back to the empire." She was correct, I came right back out. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm going with a combination of the two. See photos above. Yes, weathering is the most important aspect of this kit build.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on September 19, 2017, 07:23:45 AM
That happens from time to time. I've been in a bit of a funk myself lately and passing up opportunities to spend time at the work bench. I know I'll get over it. It seems to happen to me when I have too many things on my plate, other than model building, that I should be working on. Either at work and/or around the house.
Bob,
I've been in a funk in the past but never for this long of time. I know once I get started on it I'll be back to normal, what ever that is for me. It is just a matter of time for sure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on September 19, 2017, 08:13:55 AM
I think it's kind of natural after having met a deadline to feel a bit down afterward. I've felt the same way about building stuff since I started the new job. Part of my issue is fatigue, but I'd also finished my first real portion of scenery on the layout. Last week I started a small kit and a couple of boxcars to see if I can get back at it.
Jeff
Dr.Jones,
I believe you are also correct. I did feel a little of a let down after the open house but I attributed it to just being tired. I'll take my time and get back to it slowly.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on September 19, 2017, 08:19:36 AM
I'll defer to the wisdom of others regarding the lack of interest in the layout. Without trying to sound melodramatic, be encouraged it hasn't spread to other parts of your life. That's when the real problems occur. And I'm not convinced that the "fatigue" you're experiencing is not a part of the process of "getting older". 8)
Chip,
Thanks for the support. I think some of it is my age and thankfully it hasn't spread to the rest of my life or family. I have a great support staff here at home. As my wife said, "Buy me something and you'll feel better." ;D ;D That will certainly make her feel better.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on September 19, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
One thing that has worked for me is to build a kit/structure in another scale. Maybe you can grab a good O Scale kit and work on that.
dave
Dave,
Great idea. I've though of that but decided I didn't want to build something I wasn't going to use or need on the layout. However, the idea is still in my pea brain.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on September 19, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Once you get started with your oil facility the inspiration will come back!
I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out
Leo,
You may have a point there/here. I was working on it this afternoon and got a little of the fire back.
Update later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
I like the grimy look on the tanks. They definitely look like they have been sitting there awhile. I have run into modelers block before and what I did was do little projects for several weeks and by then I was ready to do something larger.
Curt,
Thanks for the input. I like both colors for tanks and will try to use them both for a contrasting look. I've had writers block in my college creative writing class but this has me stumped. I've never gone this long without something to show for the time.
Tom ;D
ACL 1504,
T, nice pics my brother from another brother. Too bad for the rest of us you don't work for a magazine taking pictures of layouts. KP-out!
Thank ya'll for responding concerning my post. This is one great forum.
This afternoon I spilled the contents of three boxes on my work bench.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161733.jpeg)
I washed the parts in warm soapy water to remove any mold release agents on still on the plastic.
When dry I removed the pipe supports and bases. I used a #11 Xacto blade to remove some extra flash. I then glued the supports to the base pieces.
I then randomly placed them between the tracks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190917161746.jpeg)
I should have more to show tomorrow afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 19, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
ACL 1504,
T, nice pics my brother from another brother. Too bad for the rest of us you don't work for a magazine taking pictures of layouts. KP-out!
Brother Thom,
Thanks for the nice compliment on the pics of Cliff Powers' fantastic layout.
If I did take the pictures for the mags as you suggested, I wouldn't have time for my own empire building.
Just saying.
Tom ;D
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.
I agree with Curt. This will be impressive.
Jim
All right Tom, you're back in the saddle again! Going to be fun watching your progress.
Looks good Tom...I'm a fan of a darker color like Black or Green...but mostly because I like hardcore weathering ;)
John
You're not done yet?..... ;)
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
I have a confession of sorts to make.
I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what. No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.
I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.
Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water. ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.
However, I do have a little update.
Tom ;D
Good Morning Tom,
Yes, I still have some of that syndrome. Maybe we should name it. I think the only solution is to just keep walking into the train room and say that your not done yet and what an I going to do today. A list might help. Hot weather help for me. When it is 110 outside, i'm in the train room.
I wish you luck getting rid of this dreaded disease "trainitis" or what ever it is. We both have a long way to go. Have a great day my friend, drink a lot of water and play with trains.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.
Curt,
Thank you. When finished it will be just over two feet long.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on September 19, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 19, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
Tom, that is going to be really impressive when it's built. It's going to be huge.
I agree with Curt. This will be impressive.
Jim
Jim,
I sure hope so, I'm working on it and the weathering will be the final touch.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on September 20, 2017, 05:57:14 AM
All right Tom, you're back in the saddle again! Going to be fun watching your progress.
Mark,
Yes, back in the saddle but not 10-12 hours a day like the past four months. I'm just in the pony saddle for now.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on September 20, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
Looks good Tom...I'm a fan of a darker color like Black or Green...but mostly because I like hardcore weathering ;)
John
John,
Thanks for the comment. I'm going with black and silver for a contrast. However, it will be heavily weathered.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 20, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
You're not done yet?..... ;)
Greg, in one word, NOPE! For the rivet counters, the one word being NOPE. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on September 20, 2017, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
I have a confession of sorts to make.
I'm not sure if it's a hold over from the NMRA open house, Hurricane Irma or what. No matter how I feel, I can't seem to get interested in the layout work. I've been this way for a few weeks now.
I was speaking to Frank Baker, Erieman, this afternoon and he said he went through a similar period after the MRR shoot with Lou Sassi. Frank said he is getting over it but still has the same issue.
Maybe I need more Diet Pepsi, I've been cutting back and attempting to drink more water. ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it will pass but for now I'm just getting by on a few, okay, 1-2 hours a day in the layout room. I come in, look around, turn around, turn off the lights, leave and lock the door.
However, I do have a little update.
Tom ;D
Good Morning Tom,
Yes, I still have some of that syndrome. Maybe we should name it. I think the only solution is to just keep walking into the train room and say that your not done yet and what an I going to do today. A list might help. Hot weather help for me. When it is 110 outside, i'm in the train room.
I wish you luck getting rid of this dreaded disease "trainitis" or what ever it is. We both have a long way to go. Have a great day my friend, drink a lot of water and play with trains.
Frank / Erieman
Evening Frank,
As always, it was great speaking with you this afternoon, Thank you for the package as well.
I decided to pull up my big boy pants and get back to work. I figured what ever I had will eventually go away. I must admit that today I found myself actually working on the layout and it's supporting cast for 8+ hours.
Time for some water, er, Diet Pepsi. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Today I spent the better part of 8+ hours working on the tanker car fueling racks/platforms.
I should mention here although the kit comes with a set of instructions, I'm putting on my lawyer hat and say that the instructions are less than clear and unambiguous. There are parts mentioned that don't correspond to any part numbers. There are also parts shown with no part number.
For this kit, Walthers would have been better off by just saying "Glue this here, glue that there and then glue them all together." ;D ;D ;D ;D
I finally got all the pipes laid out in the correct order.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183907.jpeg)
More in a few. The Babe is calling.
Okay, back after a short Babe break!
I plan on painting the pipe supports with a Grimy Black color and the support bases with Floquil Aged Concrete.
I have two bottles of Floquil Weathered Black and three of the Grimy Black and didn't want to use the paint on this kit since it will be heavily weathered.
Tamiya makes a very close color to Floquil's Grimy Black. It is German Grey #XF-63.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917183925.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184028.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184028.jpeg)
More in a few.
The match for Floquil's Weathered Black is Tamiya #XF-69, Nato Black. Sorry, I forgot to take a picture of this set.
I added the small pipes to the long pipes. I don't know what to call them so I'll call them what Walthers called or named them - Parts 16,17 and 18. Yep, go figure.
I then glued those little round thingies to the top of parts 16, 17 and 18. I'm assuming the round pieces are pipe couplings or part 28 to be exact. ??? ???
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184043.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184043.jpeg)
Back in a few.
Tamiya paints also come in a spray can. Not all the colors are available. For example, the Nato Black and German Grey don't come in spray. At least those numbers were not listed on the display rack.
I hand painted the Tamiya German Grey on the supports and Floquil Aged Concrete on the bases.
I used Tamiya Silver in the spray can to paint the pipes I
I really like how the Tamiya spray paints cover the parts.The silver was dry to the touch in just over an hour.
Here is one section of the pipes and rack. The top platform and filler pipes are to be added next. This is one section and a total of four will be used. When finished the platform will be over 24 inches in length.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184057.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210917184057.jpeg)
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks? ::)
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks? ::)
Ya love tha Babe, ya love tha Babe breaks! I do know where and who butters my bread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 21, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 21, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Don't ya just love those Babe breaks? ::)
Ya love tha Babe, ya love tha Babe breaks! I do know where and who butters my bread.
Tom ;D
It's a wise man that knows who butter's his bread. ;)
Tom,
I am glad to see and hear that you have overcome your lack of exuberance. I know of what you speak, I had big plans to build some F&C cars while I was here, they are coming back in the same form as when they left. Not all, but some. The layout is looking very nice, the petroleum storage will be a great addition to the empire. I vote for silver tanks, sun reflection consideration, you are in the south after all.
Bob
Coming along nicely Tom. I like the paint colors you chose. I have one of the piping kits. I looked over the instructions and you are correct.....they are as clear as mud.
I use Neutral Grey #3 for Weathered Black. You can get both paints and paint markers.
https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray
(Forgive me if I've mentioned this before.)
dave
Beautiful work Tom. You're an impressive modeler. Thank you for the Tamiya color references. I wrote them down for my next trip that way.
Quote from: RWL on September 22, 2017, 12:32:55 AM
Tom,
I am glad to see and hear that you have overcome your lack of exuberance. I know of what you speak, I had big plans to build some F&C cars while I was here, they are coming back in the same form as when they left. Not all, but some. The layout is looking very nice, the petroleum storage will be a great addition to the empire. I vote for silver tanks, sun reflection consideration, you are in the south after all.
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for stopping by, much appreciate the kind words as well. I'm not totally over the slowdown but I feel a surge of renewed energy.
The tanks will be silver and the platform will be black for some contrast. I didn't mean to say the tanks would be both black and sliver. Going back and reading what I wrote does indicate that, but no so. DUH on me.
This area will be another show stopper if I get it the way I intend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on September 22, 2017, 06:07:44 AM
Coming along nicely Tom. I like the paint colors you chose. I have one of the piping kits. I looked over the instructions and you are correct.....they are as clear as mud.
Mark,
Thank you. This is a neat kit but as indicated, the instructions suck!
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on September 22, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
I use Neutral Grey #3 for Weathered Black. You can get both paints and paint markers.
https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray (https://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_neutgray)
(Forgive me if I've mentioned this before.)
dave
Dave,
I like Golden paints and I'll get a bottle of the Neutral Grey #3. I appreciate the info and I'm not sure you posted it here but I do remember seeing it somewhere.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 22, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
Beautiful work Tom. You're an impressive modeler. Thank you for the Tamiya color references. I wrote them down for my next trip that way.
Curt,
Thank you for the very generous compliment on the work. Building models of all sorts has been my interest since I can remember.
Tom ;D
I added the platform to the first section and it fit very well. Surprising since the instructions were so bad.
More piping still needs to be added to both sides of the platform.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182152.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182203.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182203.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how the first section looks in place. I'm sure it will look better when I get the rest finished.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182125.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182140.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182140.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time. Back in a few.
I started work on the second section this afternoon. I'll join two sections together, build the other two and then add the two together.
Also, I'll wait and weather the entire platform at one time so it will look as if it weathered at the same time. Huh?
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182217.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230917182217.jpeg)
Hopefully I'll have more to add to the thread tomorrow evening.
Great work Tom. One thing that amazes me about all your work is how crisp your paint lines always are. I'm jealous. ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 23, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Great work Tom. One thing that amazes me about all your work is how crisp your paint lines always are. I'm jealous. ;D
Curt,
Thank you. Painting between the lines just takes a little patience, a steady hand and years of practice of not painting between the lines. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Ohhhhh.
No he didn't just say that!, Did he? :-X
I guess there's just no hope for those of up who color outside the lines is there.
Teasin' ;)
Quote from: tct855 on September 24, 2017, 08:18:34 AM
Ohhhhh.
No he didn't just say that!, Did he? :-X
I guess there's just no hope for those of up who color outside the lines is there.
Teasin' ;)
There is always hope my friend, always hope.
Tom ;D
Really looking great Tom!
Quote from: MAP on September 24, 2017, 09:10:26 AM
Really looking great Tom!
Mark,
Thank you, very much appreciated.
Tom ;D
I finished more of the fuel oil platform today.
I'd like to bring something to your attention Walthers doesn't mention in the instructions.
The main pipe that comes out on the top of the pipe manifold is supposed to fit into one of the round openings in part number 11. Part #11 is shown in the photo below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145433.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145433.jpeg)
Well, it doesn't and if you paint it like I did it for sure won't fit. The hole in part #11 is to small.
In the photo below you can see the pipe coming out of the top right of the manifold. This is the pipe that is to fit into the four round openings in #11.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145448.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145448.jpeg)
More in a few.
I'd like to mention I had already glued part #11 to the top of the fuel platform.
To remedy the problem, I used a 1/16 drill bit to enlarge the opening.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145523.jpeg)
I tell you this so you can drill the hole openings while the piece is flat on the workbench. I did manage to get mine drilled out but was very careful not to break the delicate part on the top of the platform posts.
More in a few.
Another issue is with the filler pipes. This pipe has a half round piece that is to be glued to the side of the flat spot on the pipe piece.
This is another piece that needs to be fixed in order for it to fit properly.
In the photo below you can see the pipes I'm referring to.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145539.jpeg)
Notice in the photo the bottom filler pipe has a section colored green? This is the area that needs to be trimmed or shaved off. In the photo you can see where I've trimmed the top pipe.
You only need to trim off a little. However, the piece to be trimmed is to much to do at one time. I took my time using a new #11 blade and trimmed a little at a time. I did this three times to get the proper amount trimmed.
There are little handles that are to be added to the small tabs on the pipes coming out of the bottom of the pipe manifolds.
This is another small problem. There is no room for the handles to slide onto the small tabs. I used pliers to hold the handle and wedge the handle onto the small tab. The reason I used pliers is to hold the small part as it needs to be gently forced between the pipes and onto the tab.
Be careful doing this so the pipes don't break off. I didn't break any pipes so it can be done if you take your time and use pliers. I tried using tweezers but they wouldn't hold the part tight enough so I could press the handle between the pipes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145553.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145553.jpeg)
Also, the instructions don't tell/advise you that the handles need to be installed opposite of each other.
If you refer to my photo below, this is the proper way to install the handles. Notice that the handles are opposite on the opposing manifold. If you don't glue them in this position you will have the handles on the out side of the platform decking. This will make it hard for your little people to pull the handles. ;D ;D ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145607.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145607.jpeg)
More in a few and after the usual Diet Pepsi break.
Here the filler pipes are in the correct position on the pipe on top of the manifold.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145621.jpeg)
After making sure the filler pipes swiveled on the top pipe, they were removed and the silver paint was touched up on the pipes and handles.
When the silver paint was dry, I painted one handle red, one orange and the one in the middle white. I'm assuming my pipes have gas, diesel and oil.
More in a few.
Here is how the pipes look on the fuel platform.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145638.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145638.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145654.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145654.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145709.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145709.jpeg)
Here is another photo of the fuel platform in position.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145723.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145723.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145739.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145739.jpeg)
I also finished the other two fuel platforms.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240917145801.jpeg)
I'll have more to show tomorrow.
It's looking good Tom! Good to see you back at the workbench, too!
Tom,
Nice step by step, the platforms look good and will be a focal point once completed. Once again I have a comment, I think your color designations are off, in the Army, gasoline was red, diesel was yellow and lubricants were green. It has been awhile since I was in so I may have the gas and diesel backwards, but I don't remember white. Just another comment.
Looking good!
Bob
Quote from: S&S RR on September 24, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
It's looking good Tom! Good to see you back at the workbench, too!
John,
Thank you my friend. I'm almost back to 100% as far as interest in the layout work is concerned.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on September 25, 2017, 05:31:34 AM
Tom,
Nice step by step, the platforms look good and will be a focal point once completed. Once again I have a comment, I think your color designations are off, in the Army, gasoline was red, diesel was yellow and lubricants were green. It has been awhile since I was in so I may have the gas and diesel backwards, but I don't remember white. Just another comment.
Looking good!
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for stopping by and posting your thoughts. I appreciate the compliment as well.
No problem on the comment reference to the POL handles. I wasn't using any guide as far as the color designations were concerned. Those were the colors I grabbed off the shelf to paint the handles. On the A&S RR most things are quite different.
Tom ;D
I finished the main tank car platform this afternoon. It turned out to be just a little over 24" in length.
In a previous post I mentioned I was going to build two platforms and then joint them together. This morning I decided not to build it in that order. Instead, I build one onto the others.
This allowed me to get a better fit on the pipes and to ensure the support brackets lined up correctly.
Tomorrow I'll finish adding all the swing filler pipes and handles.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152028.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152028.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152042.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152042.jpeg)
More in a few.
I have the Walthers piping kit and I'll use it to make pipes run from the supply tanks to the platform pipes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917152056.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917153713.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250917153713.jpeg)
Quote from: ACL1504 on September 25, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on September 24, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
It's looking good Tom! Good to see you back at the workbench, too!
John,
Thank you my friend. I'm almost back to 100% as far as interest in the layout work is concerned.
Tom ;D
Great to hear it! I came back from the Narrow Gauge Convention on fire - I've put in a couple 16 hour modeling days in the last week. I have found the inspiration always goes in cycles - especially when you have a big goal like you did with the NMRA open house. Keep up the great work - we are watching!
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You're doing a great job on this kit Tom. Thanks for all of the photos.
Hi Tom:
Great job so and it looks great on your RR as usual.
Karl
ACL 1504,
Really excellent job build Tom. Some were saying that they thought you weren't going to be able to make the pieces fit. Heck some were saying you weren't fit to sleep with pigs! but I stood up for yah, and said that you were! Good job. I got your back brother. ;D KP-out!!!
Quote from: Donato on September 25, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
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Donato,
Thanks for the WOW and for stopping by, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on September 27, 2017, 06:30:16 AM
You're doing a great job on this kit Tom. Thanks for all of the photos.
Mark,
Thank you very much and you are very welcome. More pictures coming.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on September 27, 2017, 07:36:17 AM
Hi Tom:
Great job so and it looks great on your RR as usual.
Karl
Karl,
Much appreciated kind sir.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 27, 2017, 08:04:01 AM
ACL 1504,
Really excellent job build Tom. Some were saying that they thought you weren't going to be able to make the pieces fit. Heck some were saying you weren't fit to sleep with pigs! but I stood up for yah, and said that you were! Good job. I got your back brother. ;D KP-out!!!
Thommy,
Thanks brother from another mother. Come hook or crook, my pieces always fit! LOL!
I appreciate you standing and having my back. 8)
Tom ;D
I just realized my last picture was #3700, That is crazy! I'll probably reach 10,000 prior to getting the third level finished.
Today I finished adding the filler/supply pipes to the platform. I also installed some stairs on the one end. I plan on adding stairs on the other end as well. However, I first need to figure out how to use the end pipes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183349.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183349.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280917183405.jpeg)
Hopefully more tomorrow afternoon.
Beautiful work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person Saturday.
ACL 1504,
Tom, your AS build modeling is totally inspiring. I'm so glad you're able to spend such consistent time advancing your AS on the way to a third level. It's official! I'm putting your AS on my bucket list. I want a picture of my ASS next to your AS. :) I'll be the one wearing... aaah khaki's. Thanx Thom...
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 28, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
Beautiful work Tom. I can't wait to see it in person Saturday.
Curt,
Thank you and I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 28, 2017, 07:58:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Tom, your AS build modeling is totally inspiring. I'm so glad you're able to spend such consistent time advancing your AS on the way to a third level. It's official! I'm putting your AS on my bucket list. I want a picture of my ASS next to your AS. :) I'll be the one wearing... aaah khaki's. Thanx Thom...
Thommy,
My AS is always on the move my friend. By the way, what blew up yours? This sure has turned into one AS of a thread. By the way, no pictures of yours or mine please. I'm having a hard enough time seeing as it is. Now I have to go and get that out of my mind.
Tom 8) 8)
Now that I have the fuel platform built I can now remove the excess track.
I cut the track just past the end of the platform. I then wet the area with a small spray bottle and let it sit for ten minutes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153237.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153237.jpeg)
I then added more water and let it sit for ten additional minutes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153251.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153251.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used a thin putty knife and gently pried up the track and ballast. It all came up very cleanly.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153309.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153309.jpeg)
I removed the old ballast and cleaned the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153324.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used the same two bumpers and glued them in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153340.jpeg)
Still plenty of room for the tank cars on the end.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153355.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153355.jpeg)
More in a few.
I wanted to add a little more detail to the piping on the end of the platform. I trimmed the end pipes for this reason.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153108.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153108.jpeg)
I then painted the pipe connectors.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153125.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153125.jpeg)
More in a few.
The kit comes with the pipes to connect them to Walthers Piping kit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153139.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153139.jpeg)
When using the piping kit, the pipes all are located above ground level and take up a lot of space/real estate.
I decided to use the pipes in the fuel kit in a different way. I trimmed the end off the pipe and glued it in place as shown.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153152.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut three pipes for the lower platform pipes and glued them in place as shown.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153209.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153209.jpeg)
I repeated the process for the upper pipes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153223.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153223.jpeg)
The pipes from the main supply tank to the platform pipes are now below the ground.
This frees up a good amount of real estate for more tanks and structures in the fuel facility yard.
Looking good Tom..... 8)
Tom,
Funny to me, every time I see someone modeling a little refinery or oil n gas with lots of pipes. I hanker back to my third job working a summer at a little chemical refinery for Exxon in Chumuckla, Fla. (yes I did piping and wire running) I've always wanted to model a big refinery with lots of pipes etc.
Perhaps one day I might stop thinking about it and move my arse and do it... Nawh, right now I've built a perfect one in my mind. (but that's another story) ;D Thanx Thom...
Excellent Tom.
Looking good Tom. I like the idea of burying the pipes underground. Save space, and allows for vehicles to drive "over" them.
Quote from: GPdemayo on September 29, 2017, 05:06:14 PM
Looking good Tom..... 8)
Greg,
Thanks and I had fun yesterday talking about all our youthful misdeeds.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on September 29, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
Tom,
Funny to me, every time I see someone modeling a little refinery or oil n gas with lots of pipes. I hanker back to my third job working a summer at a little chemical refinery for Exxon in Chumuckla, Fla. (yes I did piping and wire running) I've always wanted to model a big refinery with lots of pipes etc.
Perhaps one day I might stop thinking about it and move my arse and do it... Nawh, right now I've built a perfect one in my mind. (but that's another story) ;D Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Well, you piped up and had to say something gassy. I really bet it is scary to know what is in your mind! ;D ;D ;D
Not that mine is any different.
Tom 8)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on September 29, 2017, 07:01:16 PM
Excellent Tom.
Curt,
Thank you. It was good to see and visit with you yesterday.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on September 30, 2017, 06:45:47 AM
Looking good Tom. I like the idea of burying the pipes underground. Save space, and allows for vehicles to drive "over" them.
Mark,
Thank you sir. The pipes running underground did free up some space for me. I'll be sharing that later in the build thread.
Tom ;D
Today I've been working on adding the end extension and stairs to the south end of the fuel platform.
I'll have more to show later this afternoon.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114548.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114548.jpeg)
I used a piece of .030 styrene to make the small additional platform deck.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114601.jpeg)
I measured the width and cut it to fit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114646.jpeg)
Back in a few.
The small guard rail section in the bottom of the photo is one of the original kit end pieces. I'm using two of these to make the side rails for the additional section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114717.jpeg)
I only need the additional piece to be as long as the side and end piece.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114700.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut the styrene to fit and glued the three rail sections flush to the white base.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114734.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114734.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114749.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114749.jpeg)
After gluing these pieces together, I realized I incorrectly measured the width of the white base piece. These side rail sections are the original end pieces and not as wide (including the guard rail base) as the long side guard rail sections. I'll show the difference later in the build. Anyway, at this point, I decided to not redo the small addition to the correct width.
More in a few.
Since I kit bashed the four kits into one long section, I had three support stands left over. I used one of these extra sections to support the additional platform.
I glued the stairs and side railing together and painted the parts with Tamiya Nato Black.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114805.jpeg)
When the black paint dried to the touch, I painted the top of the railings with Floquil Reefer Yellow. When dry, I glued the end platform, stairs and support in place.
Here is how it looks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114821.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017114821.jpeg)
More in a few.
I mentioned I incorrectly measured the width of the platform but decided not to redo or fix it.
The mistake isn't noticeable from the side. However, looking down from a top view it is very noticeable. On the layout, it will not be possible to get a full top down view of the platform.
So, no harm, no problem.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017120141.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011017120141.jpeg)
More in a few.
When I assembled the large Magnuson Fuel tank, I carelessly allowed some super glue to rundown and horizontally across the tank side. I didn't really notice it was an issue until I painted the tank with Tamiya Silver.
I used wet/dry sandpaper to remove the extra super glue.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153411.jpeg)
I sanded three separate times and sanded a little more off with each pass. I was careful not to sand off the rivet details.
Once repainted it looked fine. Weathering will also help.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153423.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290917153423.jpeg)
Hopefully, I won't make anymore mistakes for a few days, weeks or months. Heck, I'll be happy to survive the next few hours. :P :P
Tom ;D
Beautiful work Tom. You set the bar very high for the rest of us.
The fuel stand looks right with the stairs added at the other end..... 8)
The additional platform came out well Tom. The slight size difference really doesn't take away from the look, which looks great!
Hi Tom.
Finally I managed to read your thread from page 160 of your old thread up to the last post on this one.
Your layout has coming a long way up to this point and it´s a fantastic way. so many awesome scenes and an incredible amount of work. I love it. Absolut beautiful scenery and landscape.
Great work.
Kind regards,Chris
Looking good, Billy Ray! ;D
(Name that movie)
Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank. The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 01, 2017, 06:53:31 PM
Beautiful work Tom. You set the bar very high for the rest of us.
Curt,
Thanks for the very generous compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on October 02, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
The fuel stand looks right with the stairs added at the other end..... 8)
Greg,
Thanks, I agree. It fits the scene better as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on October 04, 2017, 05:39:17 AM
The additional platform came out well Tom. The slight size difference really doesn't take away from the look, which looks great!
Mark,
Thank you. When viewed from the side the difference doesn't show but I thought I'd point it out all the same.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Twist67 on October 04, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
Hi Tom.
Finally I managed to read your thread from page 160 of your old thread up to the last post on this one.
Your layout has coming a long way up to this point and it´s a fantastic way. so many awesome scenes and an incredible amount of work. I love it. Absolut beautiful scenery and landscape.
Great work.
Kind regards,Chris
Chris,
Really good to see you back on the forum.
I've been very busy over the past 6 months as you can see and I'm glad you had the opportunity to go back a review it all. It has been fun.
Tom ;D
Thank you for the kind words, very much appreciated.
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 04, 2017, 07:51:55 AM
Looking good, Billy Ray! ;D
(Name that movie)
Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank. The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too.
Bob,
Thank you sir.
Can't remember the movie but I remember Dan Aykroyd said it.
This was a fun little project and now I'm thinking about lighting the platform for night time operations.
Tom ;D
Tom
It really looks good - great addition to your layout.
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 08:39:19 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 04, 2017, 07:51:55 AM
Looking good, Billy Ray! ;D
(Name that movie)
Nice job repairing the minor faux pas on the big tank. The platform, pipes and stairs are looking good too.
Bob,
Thank you sir.
Can't remember the movie but I remember Dan Aykroyd said it.
This was a fun little project and now I'm thinking about lighting the platform for night time operations.
Tom ;D
Okay, I'll give you partial credit. ;) Dan Aykroyd spoke that line in "Trading Places". 8)
ACL 1504,
What a fantastic detailed job on the tanker (un)/loading racks and "sanded tank" (hey perhaps that can be the unofficial nickname of the tank). ;) Keep up the riveting work bossman! KP-out... P.S. tell Mrs. P. I'm waving at her, she can probably see me now with her new peepers! 8)
Quote from: tct855 on October 05, 2017, 07:58:26 AM
ACL 1504,
What a fantastic detailed job on the tanker (un)/loading racks and "sanded tank" (hey perhaps that can be the unofficial nickname of the tank). ;) Keep up the riveting work bossman! KP-out... P.S. tell Mrs. P. I'm waving at her, she can probably see me now with her new peepers! 8)
Thom,
Thank you, much appreciated.
The Babe can see clearly now! She is waving back.
Tom ;D
Today I started to add the concrete pad for the entire fuel facility. The heavy trucks will need the concrete so they don't get stuck in the gravel and sand.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125732.jpeg)
I got a large piece of 1 ply cardboard from Sam Flax Art Supply and then marked where the road was needed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125748.jpeg)
More in a few.
I removed the cardboard from the tracks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125833.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125833.jpeg)
I replaced the fuel platform. It looks right at home.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125819.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125819.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time folks. Back in a few.
These are the tanks and quonset hut from the Walthers Interstate Fuel and Oil kit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125804.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051017125804.jpeg)
I think it will take me two weeks to finish this area.
Something to consider: A dirt berm around that large oil tank.
dave
Looks great Tom. I made a berm out of strip wood painted concrete color and white sand around the tank.
Quote from: deemery on October 05, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Something to consider: A dirt berm around that large oil tank.
dave
Dave,
I do have something in mind. I show it later in the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 05, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
Looks great Tom. I made a berm out of strip wood painted concrete color and white sand around the tank.
Curt,
Thanks for sharing your berm. I have something in mind I'll share/show later in the thread.
Tom ;D
I made a Tom Sawyer trade with Cuse last week. This week he delivered on his end. We are still working on my end.
I'm now the proud owner of the FOS Pier 27 structure built by Karl Scholtz.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165850.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165850.jpeg)
I'll use this building on the third level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165907.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-061017165921.jpeg)
Wow Tom I really like that fruit and steamship co. structure. That's really cool. Thanx Thom...
That's a great looking building Tom.
Pretty cool.
Thanx
Bob
I LOVE that building! The matte colors are perfect, the weathering is just right...I just came to the conclusion that I could not find a spot for it on my little backwoodsy RR...I'll be able to enjoy it on Tom's layout for years to come.
Some of you may know the story behind it...I was in N scale for many years, participating in this forum and its predecessor, and envying all of the craftsman kits and narrow gauge equipment in HO. My primary influencers were Frary & Hayden from the 70's. I always wanted to go that way, but...
One day, I was home early from work and PostalKarl suddenly announces in the build thread that "whoever responds first can have it" :o ...that was it for me in N scale! A week later, the building was in my possession, the N scale structures were in a closet, and I was calling my track HOn30. Thank you Karl for the push...I couldn't be happier!
John
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
A seaport in Florida......Wow, wonder no on thought of that. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Jim
Will we see a build thread on some A.M.B. barges? ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
Bob, I like the way you thing. Along with the two buildings that Tom is getting from me. Tahope could become a major exporter of citrus. Good idea. Let's see what the master has in mind.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: tct855 on October 06, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Wow Tom I really like that fruit and steamship co. structure. That's really cool. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
It is a beautiful structure. Not sure I'll ever use it but it is a Karl S. building.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 06, 2017, 07:16:30 PM
That's a great looking building Tom.
Curt,
Yes, it is.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on October 06, 2017, 07:44:47 PM
Pretty cool.
Thanx
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on October 07, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
I LOVE that building!
One day, I was home early from work and PostalKarl suddenly announces in the build thread that "whoever responds first can have it" :o ...that was it for me in N scale! A week later, the building was in my possession, the N scale structures were in a closet, and I was calling my track HOn30. Thank you Karl for the push...I couldn't be happier!
John
I don't really need the building but I'm very happy to have a PostalKarl structure. ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
Bob,
NOPE!
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on October 07, 2017, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
A seaport in Florida......Wow, wonder no on thought of that. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Jim
Jim,
Not on this layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Raymo on October 07, 2017, 06:28:05 PM
Will we see a build thread on some A.M.B. barges? ;D
Raymo,
NOPE AGAIN!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on October 07, 2017, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 07, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Does this mean that Tahope is going to become a seaport? ??? ;) :D
Bob, I like the way you thing. Along with the two buildings that Tom is getting from me. Tahope could become a major exporter of citrus. Good idea. Let's see what the master has in mind.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The master wasn't going to make the deal. However, the chance to get a PostalKarl building was to much of a pull to pass on.
This Pier 27 building can't be used on real estate. It is a structure designed to fit on a pier with barges. The bay doors are to low and loading docks can't be made to fit.
What am I going to do with it? Put it on the shelf and see what the future brings.
Tom ;D
I've been working on the fuel facility and will have an update later in the week.
On a side note, Franks two citrus processing structures arrived this afternoon. Franks pictures really don't do the structures justice.
Nothing to do with Frank's pictures, its just that they are beautiful. And, I'll add, larger than they appear in the pictures.
Anyway, I need to make a few minor FEDEX OOPS repairs. Nothing serious just minor loose parts.
I'll show the buildings later in the week after the repairs are made.
Tom ;D
I'm way behind on any updates. I have been working on the fuel facility. I'll try to get ya'll an update later this afternoon or tomorrow at the latest.
Tom ;D
I was excited that there was an update :) but realized no pictures :-\.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 16, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
I was excited that there was an update :) but realized no pictures :-\ .
Curt,
Thanks for stopping by. I'll have a few pictures within the hour.
Tom ;D
In my world I thought everyday was a Saturday. Now, with all the 1:1 stuff I'm doing, I'm beginning to wonder.
Anyway, I continued making the concrete driveway for the fuel facility. After all the cardboard was glued in place and dry, I added scribed expansion joints every 15 HO scale feet. I used a pointed hole tip to scribe the lines.
I then painted a layer of full strength white glue over the cardboard. I've mentioned this method in the past. I add the white glue to seal the cardboard from future humidity issues that may arise due to the changes in humidity.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173457.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173457.jpeg)
Here the location of the horizontal tanks and the office. For a few weeks, I had the two reversed but like this much better.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173513.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173513.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173531.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173546.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173604.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173604.jpeg)
I removed the structures and the fuel rack and painted the concrete with full strength Floquil Concrete.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017173621.jpeg)
Notice the scribed lines are no longer visible? Well, they are there but I'll need to redo them. I can just barely make out the original lines.
More tomorrow.
Awesome modeling Tom. Are you doing oily dirt under the platform?
To paraphrase Col. Hannibal Smith - "I love it when a scene comes together." ;D
Awesome Scene Tom.
Just let me point a couple of things that are not right................AH, Gee, I seem to be having a problem. I can't seem to find anything that doesn't look right.
Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 16, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
Awesome modeling Tom. Are you doing oily dirt under the platform?
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated as always.
Yes, I'll dirty oil and fuel stains on the bottom. The reason I haven't done it as yet is due to I can't decide if I want dirt of gravel under the platform.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 17, 2017, 07:30:34 AM
To paraphrase Col. Hannibal Smith - "I love it when a scene comes together." ;D
Bob,
Thanks, and so do I! I'll be happy to see this one finished. It seems like it takes a hundred little things to get one scene going.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on October 17, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
Awesome Scene Tom.
Just let me point a couple of things that are not right................AH, Gee, I seem to be having a problem. I can't seem to find anything that doesn't look right.
Jim
Jim,
Thanks Butty, much appreciated.
Are you sure your memory isn't to blame for not finding something? ;D ;D ;D ;D I was going to say something else, ah heck, can't remember. :'(
Tom 8)
I added new expansion lines to the concrete pad. Not much else to say for that.
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More in a few.
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I also started the weathering process for the fuel platform. It will be a several step process but here is a look at the first application.
Here is a before look.
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More in a few.
I applied a coat of A&I stain to the pipes. I used Hunterline Light Gray for the first application.
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When that dried, I added some Hunterline Medium Brown. The medium bown looks like spilled fuel oil.
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More in a few.
I've added more medium brown and in a few days will finish the pipe weathering. These photos show the front pipes but all the pipes were weathered in the same manner.
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More in a few.
The fuel facility area is five feet in length. I want to enclose it all with a chain link fence.
I'm using 1/16" brass rod for the posts and horizontal top brace. This fence will be 10' high as I think that is to high for any gators to get in or get out.
In this next photo you can see Allie Gator trying to get out of the fenced area. This fence is 8 feet high. Chris Hughes picture.
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More in a few.
I'm spacing the posts every ten feet. I drilled a 1/16 hole every ten feet around the fuel compound.
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I cut 85 posts from the 1/16 brass rods.
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More in a few.
This chain link fence will be almost 8.5 feet in total length. That is 8.5 1:1 feet and not 8.5 HO scale feet.
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More in a few.
Continued after a cold Diet Pepsi break.
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I cut the brass rod posts to 15 HO scale feet in length. I want to add some barbed wire to the top. I used pliers to put a 40 degree bend at one end. I made the bend at 2 HO scale feet. The bend used 1 HO scale foot and that leaves me with two HO feet to plant the post and two feet at the top.
In the photo below you can see the bend.
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I was telling Greg what I wanted to do but didn't have a vice. He suggested hammering the brass end. You can see I have one post taped to the angle weight, shown above.
I used a small steel weight shown below as the "masher".
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More in a few.
I placed the steel bar on the angle portion of the brass rod and made several hammering blows with a hammer to flatten the end.
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I'll do a little fast forward here and show ya'll the five step process for the fence posts.
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1. Cut the brass rod to length.
2. Bend one end to the angle of your choice.
3. Flatten the bent end.
4. Used the Dremel disc to shape the top.
5. Drill two or three small holes in the flattened portion. I went with two.
More in a few.
Eighty hockey sticks made from the brass rod.
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Hockey sticks shaped and drilled.
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Hi Tom,
You oil facility is looking great. Thanks for pictures of your progress and explanation of what you have done.
WOW Tom, that is some real precision work with the fence posts.
Tom
That is some very nice work. Looks like you have some experience with making brass parts. ;)
Tom, how did you drill the holes that precisely?
dave
That is some fine detailed work you're doing Tom. It's really going to make that scene pop! Am I seeing things or is there a switch machine hidden in the large oil tank for that turnout?
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Quote from: sdrees on October 17, 2017, 04:08:51 PM
Hi Tom,
You oil facility is looking great. Thanks for pictures of your progress and explanation of what you have done.
Steve,
Thank you for the kind words. Pictures save me quite a bit of time moving the thread forward.
Thanks for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 17, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
WOW Tom, that is some real precision work with the fence posts.
Curt,
Thanks for the compliment. Please see my response to deemery below.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on October 17, 2017, 08:08:15 PM
Tom
That is some very nice work. Looks like you have some experience with making brass parts. ;)
John,
Thank you, much appreciated. Brass I can work with, plaster - not so much! ;) ;)
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on October 17, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
Tom, how did you drill the holes that precisely?
dave
Dave,
Great question. I think about 95% of the holes are spot on. The ones that aren't will be used on the back side of the fuel platform.
Here is how I did it.
I used my 40+ year old Dremmel and Dremel press.
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When the post is laying flat, the curved/top portion of the fence is not level with the drill press table. This made it difficult to get a good drill spot on the brass. The drill bit wanted to "float" and grab where it wanted.
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continued below -
You can see when I press the top flat, the post is at an angle. This is the angle the top portion was when the post was flat. Since the post is longer than the top, the angle is more pronounced.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131810.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181017131810.jpeg)
I used small pliers to hold the piece flat in place to make the holes.
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As I mentioned, not all the posts turned out perfect but they are usable.
Hope this explanation helps.
Quote from: MAP on October 18, 2017, 06:33:46 AM
That is some fine detailed work you're doing Tom. It's really going to make that scene pop! Am I seeing things or is there a switch machine hidden in the large oil tank for that turnout?
Mark,
Hey, thanks for stopping by and for the compliment.
No, you are not seeing things. The purpose of the tank in that location is two fold. The first is obviously to hide the Tortoise Switch Machine.
When laying out the track and moving turnouts around, this location was chosen for the business end of the #8 left hand turnout. As mentioned, the tank hides the switch motor.
Secondly, I wanted the large tank there to take the viewers eyes from the corner of the wall. I wanted a smooth viewing transition from the tank to the trees.
The chain link fence and more scenery will also help blend the corner into the scenery. More on that later in the thread.
Tom 8)
Quote from: Donato on October 18, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
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Donato,
You are very kind. "Tom Terrific" first aired on the Captain Kangaroo show in 1957. I watched it all the time. Manfred was his dog.
Tom ;D
This afternoon I started working on the chain link fence posts. This project was more involved than I figured. However, anything worth doing is worth doing right.
I first tried to come up with an easy way to build the fence.
I first drew a base line and pencil post every 10 HO scale apart.
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I placed the posts over the pencil line and taped them in place. I used the ruler to hold the posts flush on the line.
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More in a few.
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I then placed the horizontal rod on the top of the post under the bent portion.
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This wasn't going to work as the bar is on the outside.
More in a few.
I then came up with the brilliant idea to place the horizontal bar on the inside. To do this I had to reverse the posts and let them hang over the edge so I could work with the posts.
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The bar doesn't work this way either.
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The brilliant idea that wasn't.
Continued in a few.
There just isn't any easy way to do this and make it look correctly. Well, there is one. This is the one I wanted to avoid.
Remember, anything worth doing is to do it right the first time.
I cut individual horizontal bars and fit them between the posts.
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The first section I built was the section behind the large tank. I applied a little rosin to the brass posts and bars and soldered them in place.
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Diet Pepsi time!
Prior to making the fence, I made sure I had the posts set back far enough to avoid any interference with rolling stock.
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More in a few.
The next section I worked on required 22 posts. This was more labor intensive and took me a few hours to complete.
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I think the time was well worth the effort.
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More in a few.
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Folks, I'm done for the day on this project. Tomorrow I'll finish the rest of the fence excluding the gates. I'm still thinking how I want to build those. Of course they need to open and close.
The fence is absolutely going to be worth the time spent, awesome Tom.
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire. ::) :)
dave
Beautiful modeling Tom. The fence is going to look incredible when finished. I was thinking (that's dangerous :o) that if it is a electric fence you could use straight wire at the top. Just a thought.
Hi Tom,
Great tutorial and a good looking fence. The bar between the posts looks so much better than your other trials.
The fence is really incredible Tom.
Quote from: MAP on October 20, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
The fence is really incredible Tom.
My thoughts exactly..."just a detail" but master craftsmanship and, as usual, no compromises. Nice work!
John
Quote from: Janbouli on October 19, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
The fence is absolutely going to be worth the time spent, awesome Tom.
Jan,
Thank you, much appreciated. I think in the end it will be just what I wanted.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on October 19, 2017, 07:25:36 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire. ::) :)
dave
Dave,
No sure anyone makes HO scale barbed wire so I'll just use loose woven thread like I did on the wood fence around the farm area.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on October 19, 2017, 07:25:36 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire. ::) :)
dave
Curt,
Thank you for the kind words. There will be no barbed wire except in your imagination. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on October 19, 2017, 09:35:08 PM
Hi Tom,
Great tutorial and a good looking fence. The bar between the posts looks so much better than your other trials.
Steve,
Very much appreciate your support on the fence. I agree on the bars in the middle, just looks correct.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on October 20, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
The fence is really incredible Tom.
Mark,
Thank you. All the more details for you to see when ever you get here.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on October 20, 2017, 06:09:08 AM
Quote from: MAP on October 20, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
The fence is really incredible Tom.
My thoughts exactly..."just a detail" but master craftsmanship and, as usual, no compromises. Nice work!
John
John,
Thank you for the generous compliment. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Tom ;D
My plans for today included making the long fence. Mr. Murphy had other plans and due to Murph and 1:1 life stuff, the fence didn't get started.
I didn't get in the train room until well after 1 PM so I decided to make the gates for the main entrance to the fuel facility.
During the process mistakes were made. Note the plural on the mistake issue. I'll share them with you all the same as I usually do.
I used a simple but effective way to make the gate hinges.
I started by cutting four short, I didn't measure just eyeballed, pieces of brass tubing. I used 3/32 X .014 tubing.
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I then slid the 1/16 brass rods into the tubing. as shown below.
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More in a few.
I aligned the four pieces as shown in the next photo.
I taped the rods so there would be no movement when soldering.
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I then soldered the tubing to make the hinge. I made sure not to get any solder on the inside rod. This is the rod that will swing the gate.
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More in a few.
Next I made a 90 degree bend in the brass rod and checked it twice for squareness.
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At this point in the build I took a Diet Pepsi break so now is a good time for another DP break.
Here is a look at the beginning of the gate build.
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I then started making the left half of the gate. When I got to the bottom section I realized I made a mistake in the gate height in relation to the hinge.
In this next photo you can see the point of my file pointing to the mistake.
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If these three pieces are soldered together, the swing bar (on the right) won't fit into the hinge.
I decided to solder only the bottom and angle rods. I then used the Dremel cut off disc and carefully removed some of the brass rod from the two inside pieces.
Continued in a few.
Not taking a chance in solder getting on the swing rod, I used tape to cover the rod as I soldered the other two pieces.
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You can see in the next photo where I dodged a bullet.
You can barely see the gap between the bottom rod and hinge. The fit is good enough to make it look like the pieces are soldered together and a part of the hinge.
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Better news is that the gate swings with no interference.
More in a few.
My faulty measuring caused another problem. The right gate post was cut to short making the right gate fit lower than the left gate.
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I wasn't going to make a new post and hinges so I simply soldered on a short rod piece to the bottom. I then fit it in the hole and cut off a little on the bottom until it was level with the left side.
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More in a few.
I started making the right gate (it shows it on the left). I made the gates in reverse on the pattern as the top portion of the fence post with the angle wouldn't lay flat.
I made sure the two gate halves were level.
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More in a few.
Fast forward and I'm finished. I made the same mistake and same correction on the right gate as I did on the left one.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173718.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-201017173718.jpeg)
Here are the two gate halves in place - the main entrance.
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More in a few.
Open for business -
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Closed for business -
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Done for now and finished as well.
Thanks to all following.
Tom ;D
Beautiful and very precise modeling.
Every time I follow your builds I think to myself, this guy can't astound me any more. But to my surprise and astonishment, you do.....you really do.
Tom is there anything you can't do in modeling?
Tom,
Beautiful chain link fencing! Looks awesome sir! Thanx Thom...
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 20, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
Beautiful and very precise modeling.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir.
Not as precise as I wanted but it works.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on October 21, 2017, 12:39:52 PM
Every time I follow your builds I think to myself, this guy can't astound me any more. But to my surprise and astonishment, you do.....you really do.
Donato,
Thank you very much.
You are very generous with your compliments on the fence. It was a fun build and I look forward to building the rest and especially the track gates.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on October 21, 2017, 01:58:52 PM
Tom is there anything you can't do in modeling?
Jan,
Thank you as well for the very kind comment in the form of your question. I'm sure there are things I can't do but those are the things I haven't tried yet.
I've built chain link fences in the past but none with an operating gate. So this was a first for me. I still need to build the track gates.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on October 22, 2017, 08:56:05 AM
Tom,
Beautiful chain link fencing! Looks awesome sir! Thanx Thom...
Thommy,
You compliment on the fence is much appreciated, thank you. It was fun to do and the fun will continue this coming week.
Tom ;D
I didn't get much work done on the layout yesterday. The Judge and I played around and did a few new videos in the new areas of the layout.
Here, ACL Mike #835 pulls a string of billboard reefers through the area of South Bedford Forrest.
We did four videos which will follow this one.
Hope you enjoy.
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The same ACL reefer train pulls the billboards northbound around Baker's Curve and passes through the cut at Perkin's Farm.
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Seaboard GP9s #1803 and 1814 pulling local freight through the cut at Perkin's Farm. The local police officer is a train fan so he pulls up on the bridge to see the action.
Disappointed the train wasn't longer, he leaves after the caboose enters Baker's Curve.
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Great videos! Jim
Here we have ACL A-B-A units pulling a freight through Bedford Forrest Forest.
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Quote from: jrmueller on October 22, 2017, 01:51:15 PM
Great videos! Jim
Jim,
Thank you and thanks for following along.
Tom ;D
Ha-ha! Watchin your videos are a lot of fun T. The scenery and sounds make it so realistic for the viewer. I was curious what does momma think of your trains? Does she view with friends also? Thanx Thom...
Tom - The videos turned out really well. I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place. I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.
The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks. I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype. Probably time for a boiler test!
The Judge
Great videos. Was the police car pulled on a string?
Nice videos Tom. The string of freight cars in the 4th video have very nice weathering.
Love the videos! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great videos. There are a LOT of trees on the layout. 8)
Jeff
Quote from: Judge on October 22, 2017, 03:49:39 PM
Tom - The videos turned out really well. I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place. I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.
The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks. I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype. Probably time for a boiler test!
The Judge
That avatar looks familiar Bill..... ;)
Good Morning Tom,
Let me join everyone in sending you accolades for the superb videos of your recent accomplishments on the layout. They are awesome. The scenery is just beautiful and the police car, well, what can I say. It looks like you and the judge had a real fun day putting the videos together. Keep up the marvelous work.
Frank / Erieman
Tom,
Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that scale police car ? ;D...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on October 23, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Tom,
Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that police car ? ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy
....no, I think they were on the way to Krispy Kreme.....
Great scenery perfectly captured! Well done Tom.
John
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 20, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: deemery on October 19, 2017, 07:25:36 PM
I can't wait to see how you put the barbs on the barbed wire. ::) :)
dave
Dave,
No sure anyone makes HO scale barbed wire so I'll just use loose woven thread like I did on the wood fence around the farm area.
Tom ;D
Dave,
I think I figured it out. :-X :-X I've been doing a little experimentation and it looks promising. I'm surprised nobody has done it in the past.
I'm very excited about how it looks on the top of the fence.
STAY TUNED LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
Tom ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSPBg8ob9Q
Thom and others,
The pool folks came by and we had a small issue that took two+ hours to fix.
I won't be able to show the barbed wire until later this evening. Sorry bout dat!
Tom 8)
Quote from: tct855 on October 22, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
Ha-ha! Watchin your videos are a lot of fun T. The scenery and sounds make it so realistic for the viewer. I was curious what does momma think of your trains? Does she view with friends also? Thanx Thom...
Thom,,
My Babe will come out and ask what is new or what have I done lately. Momma loves the trains, and says, "Oh, that is new". I respond and say, "Yes, it was three years ago as well."
I could buy a new brass loco put it on the layout and say, "Oh, I've had that one for years?" and so it goes.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on October 22, 2017, 03:49:39 PM
Tom - The videos turned out really well. I particularly like the video of the Po Po car exiting Old Man Perkins' place. I guess the domestic row between Farmer Perkins' wife and Fatty Patty got resolved after Fatty agreed to sweep the porch, wash the laundry, iron the sheets, clean out the barn, and weed the corn patch. Amazing what an incentive like missing dinner will do for a teen age girl's work ethic.
The video of ACL 835 (A PFM USRA Mike) at the crossing shows how many cars a well maintained steam loco can pull - especially with free rolling metal wheels on the trucks. I guess it goes without saying that 835 (the model) has lasted years longer than the prototype. Probably time for a boiler test!
The Judge
Bill,
Thanks for adding the loco information. It is amazing we have locos still running well after 40+ years.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 22, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
Great videos. Was the police car pulled on a string?
Curt,
Thank you as always.
I taped a light colored thread to the front bottom of the Po-Po car and pulled it up and over as the train passed under. Pretty neat!
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on October 22, 2017, 10:22:12 PM
Nice videos Tom. The string of freight cars in the 4th video have very nice weathering.
Steve,
Thank you. I need to weather more of the fright cars. I wish there were 30 hours in my day.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Dave K. on October 23, 2017, 06:24:40 AM
Love the videos! 👍🏻👍🏻
Dave,
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on October 23, 2017, 08:09:37 AM
Great videos. There are a LOT of trees on the layout. 8)
Jeff
Jeff,
Thanks for watching. The videos were fun to do.
I think I have close to 600+ trees on the layout and the second level isn't finished. The trees, I believe, make the layout look like it is in the south.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on October 23, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
Good Morning Tom,
Let me join everyone in sending you accolades for the superb videos of your recent accomplishments on the layout. They are awesome. The scenery is just beautiful and the police car, well, what can I say. It looks like you and the judge had a real fun day putting the videos together. Keep up the marvelous work.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thank you, much appreciated. The Judge and I had fun doing them and we didn't even have to redo any of the four.
I mentioned to Jeff above that I feel my scenery and how it's done makes the layout look like it is set in the South.
I'll keep going as you say!
Tom ;D
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on October 23, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Tom,
Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that scale police car ? ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy
Tom,
Thank you for the compliment. If you look real close at the video, you'll see no driver at all. While on the department, I can't tell you how many times I sat near the track waiting for the freight trains to come through. To bad all the trains look the same now.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on October 23, 2017, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on October 23, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Tom,
Neat videos...how did you manage to fit inside that police car ? ;D ...were you off duty when train spotting on that bridge ?... 8) 8) 8)
Tommy
....no, I think they were on the way to Krispy Kreme.....
Donato,
Dunkin Donuts, they give the cops half off! 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on October 23, 2017, 03:40:57 PM
Great scenery perfectly captured! Well done Tom.
John
John,
Much appreciate your compliment, thank you. As you know I worked very hard to get the scenery to look correct for the location.
Tom ;D
I've been thinking about the barbed wire question posed by Dave Emery. I came upon an idea and tried it this morning.
My chain link fence material is actually wedding tulle or veil. I know ya'll have seen my other fence around Delwin's Boat and Net Storage using this same material. The tulle is shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133358.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133358.jpeg)
I was looking at this material and especially the top portion. I thought this would make a great barbed wire look if cut properly.
I used a metal ruler and trimmed the top off as shown below.
Keep in mind this photo is a close up view so it looks out of scale for HO.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut the top portion off and trimmed one end by cutting the "barbs" off of the first few sections.
I then used tweezers and fed the tulle through the holes in the top of my fence posts.
I also glued the tulle fencing to the brass posts. I used CAA/super glue to secure the barbed wire on each end post.
Here is how the first section of the fence and barbed wire looked.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133427.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133427.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133441.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133441.jpeg)
I think it looks great for barbed wire in HO scale.
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133456.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133456.jpeg)
I spray painted the fence, posts and barbed wire with Tamiya Silver.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
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I'll have more on the fencing using the barbed wire tomorrow.
Tom ;D
Tom,
What a cool idear my man. If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire. You wouldn't call me a liar, would you? If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you? If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you? ;D Thanx Thom...
Tom. Great idea for the barbed wire. One way or another I am going to have to stop by and see you on our way thru Orlando after/before the AutoTrain. Jim
Outstanding job on the fence! :D The videos are really cool too. ;)
Hi Tom:
Great looking fence. Love the barbed wire.
Karl
Neat..... 8)
That is some bad looking barbed wire. I don't think anyone would try to climb that fence.
Jim
What a brilliant idea Tom. You are a true master builder.
Quote from: ACL1504 on October 24, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
I've been thinking about the barbed wire question posed by Dave Emery. I came upon an idea and tried it this morning.
...
I was looking at this material and especially the top portion. I thought this would make a great barbed wire look if cut properly.
I used a metal ruler and trimmed the top off as shown below.
Keep in mind this photo is a close up view so it looks out of scale for HO.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133412.jpeg)
More in a few.
Leave it to Tom to figure out how to do barbed wire!!!! (My question was mostly in jest, but I'm very glad to see it sparked an actually useful result.)
dave
Quote from: tct855 on October 24, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Tom,
What a cool idear my man. If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire. You wouldn't call me a liar, would you? If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you? If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you? ;D Thanx Thom...
Wonder what the edit was about????? Things were starting to get hot and steamy there for a while!!!!
That is the bestest barbed wire fence I've ever seen being modeled.....!!!
Quote from: tct855 on October 24, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Tom,
What a cool idear my man. If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire. You wouldn't call me a liar, would you? If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you? If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you? ;D Thanx Thom...
Settle down big boy, settle down! In answer to your questions, NO-well maybe, NO and YES-I have no idea who you are and NO!
TELSR1
Quote from: jrmueller on October 25, 2017, 07:25:28 AM
Tom. Great idea for the barbed wire. One way or another I am going to have to stop by and see you on our way thru Orlando after/before the AutoTrain. Jim
Jim,
Thank you. You are always welcome to come by when you travel AutoTrain. My layout is between Sanford and where you go. I'm a little over a mile off I-4 when passing through Orlando.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on October 25, 2017, 07:43:49 AM
Outstanding job on the fence! :D The videos are really cool too. ;)
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciated. The Judge and I had fun doing the videos. They turned out better than I expected.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on October 25, 2017, 07:55:23 AM
Hi Tom:
Great looking fence. Love the barbed wire.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks buddy. Always appreciate you stopping by. The barbed wire idea a just a lucky thought.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on October 25, 2017, 10:48:51 AM
That is some bad looking barbed wire. I don't think anyone would try to climb that fence.
Jim
Jim,
Thank you, be careful not to scratch your self when you check it out in person.
I hope no one or any thing like this guy tries to climb it either.
Tom ;D
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Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 25, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
What a brilliant idea Tom. You are a true master builder.
Curt,
You are too very kind my friend. The inspiration comes from an idea Dave Emery put in my pea brain. It sure got me thinking.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on October 25, 2017, 01:02:58 PM
Leave it to Tom to figure out how to do barbed wire!!!! (My question was mostly in jest, but I'm very glad to see it sparked an actually useful result.)
dave
Dave,
Even in jest, I couldn't shake the idea of how to do it. It came to me when I was purchasing the tulle. I was at Joan's Fabrics, waiting in line with ten women waiting to have their fabric cut. While standing there, I started looking at the tulle and that is when it hit me - I couldn't wait to get home and try it.
Thanks for the push!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on October 25, 2017, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: tct855 on October 24, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Tom,
What a cool idear my man. If I told you, You are an inventor extraordinaire. You wouldn't call me a liar, would you? If I told you, You had an awesome body, you wouldn't hold it against me, would you? If I told you, You keep on modeling your AS, you wouldn't deny me, would you? ;D Thanx Thom...
Wonder what the edit was about? ??? ? Things were starting to get hot and steamy there for a while!!!!
Like Sgt. Shultz, I no nothing! 8)
Quote from: Donato on October 25, 2017, 01:20:55 PM
That is the bestest barbed wire fence I've ever seen being modeled.....!!!
Donato,
Thank you for the kind remark. It turned out pretty decent.
Tom ;D
When adding the fencing to the gates, I realized I couldn't glue the material to the swing post. To get the material on the gate and still have the fence open/close I only glued the material to three sides.
I cut the fencing to size and only glued the top, out side and bottom to the posts.
You can see in the next picture how it was done. The ruler is where no glue was applied.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133511.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133511.jpeg)
By doing this, it allowed me to slip gate post into the hinges.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133524.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133524.jpeg)
I just realized I glued the fencing material to the wrong side of the gate and fence. I'm leaving it as is. The gate is one the back side and hopefully won't show that much.
More in a few.
I made the same mistake on the first section I did as well.
Not going to redo this one either. Lesson learned.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133631.jpeg)
More in a few.
I didn't realize my mistake until this afternoon so you'll see the fencing on the wrong side on the next short section as well.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133541.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133541.jpeg)
The weight is holding the fence up until I permanently plant it.
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Continued in a few.
Well, on a positive note, I caught the mistake prior to adding fencing to any of the longer sections.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133657.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-241017133657.jpeg)
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More later this evening, hopefully that is.
This afternoon I was able to finish 36 more inches of the fence. Getting the curve just right was a bit tricksie but in the end it all worked.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152614.jpeg)
The reason it was a bit tricksie was due to the soldered points on each side of each post. As you know, solder doesn't bend.
As I inserted the post in each hole I gently bent the horizontal bar between the posts. Hopefully I'll get all the fencing build/soldered tomorrow. I can then add the fence material and start the scenery process.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152629.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152629.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-251017152642.jpeg)
Tom I really like the gate. I have seen chain link fence gates sag like that. Are you planning on adding some rust or keep it new? Are you planning on putting a chain and lock on the gate?
Hi Tom:
what can I saw but WOW!!!!! Great job.
Karl
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 25, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
Tom I really like the gate. I have seen chain link fence gates sag like that. Are you planning on adding some rust or keep it new? Are you planning on putting a chain and lock on the gate?
Curt,
Thank you, appreciate the support. I've seen the sag as well and I may let one do just that.
I'm going to weather the crude out of the fences. Good idea about the gate chain. I'll need to add two short horizontal bars to the gates so the chain will look correct.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on October 26, 2017, 07:53:20 AM
Hi Tom:
what can I saw but WOW!!!!! Great job.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you. very much all the support on the fence.
Tom ;D
Today I finally got all the fencing finished. In the next photo you can see I have every piece taped down and ready for soldering.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155515.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155515.jpeg)
I realized I forgot to add the end fence supports so I added them this afternoon.
I'll respray this section when I spray paint all the rest of the fence.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155529.jpeg)
More in a few.
The new section was test fit and all fit as planned.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155544.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155559.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155615.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155615.jpeg)
Time to make the track gates.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155629.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155629.jpeg)
Continued after a Diet Pepsi break.
I previously explained how I did the gates so I'll not add the narrative for it again.
The gate on the right is a little wider than the one on the left due to how the gate on the left spans the turnout track. You'll see this in later photos.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155643.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155643.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155656.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155656.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155711.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155724.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155737.jpeg)
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155750.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-261017155750.jpeg)
Now to add all the chain link fencing. And, the barbed wire of course.
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ASTOUNDED!!!
Top Notch work Tom.
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(https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/pepsi-strong-copy.jpg?w=580)
Now that is decent modelling!!
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 26, 2017, 06:20:18 PM
Top Notch work Tom.
Curt,
Thank you as well my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on October 26, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
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Jan,
Thank you, much appreciated. Now that is a force I can drink to! ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: JusticeCity on October 27, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
Now that is decent modelling!!
Marty,
Thank you for the kind compliment.
Tom ;D
Today I spent several hours on the fencing for the back fence, track gates and a short portion of the front left.
Getting the material on straight and even takes a lot of patience. Threading the barbed wire is tedious to say the least.
The next six photos represent about 5+ hours.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017165725.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017165725.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133302.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133302.jpeg)
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133348.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-271017133331.jpeg)
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Tom
Very nice detail work! It real looks great.
Beautiful Tom.
Dang you do great work Tom!
Quote from: S&S RR on October 27, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
Tom
Very nice detail work! It real looks great.
John,
Thank you my friend, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 27, 2017, 07:05:03 PM
Beautiful Tom.
Curt,
Thank you as well. I hope you are over the pizza flu!
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on October 29, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
Dang you do great work Tom!
Mark,
Thank you, appreciate the kind compliment. I need to have it look good when you get here. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Today I decided to be very lazy. I plan to do some reading, chilling out and having a Diet Pepsi or two.
I'll start back on the layout and the rest of the chain link fencing tomorrow.
Tom ;D
This morning I decided to build a wall around the large tank. I didn't think I had enough room or that it would look appropriate.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130021.jpeg)
I spent a few hours working on it anyway. And, I was correct, it looked like #^&%*&^&*T.
I started by making a RTV(rubber mold) of some FSM stone walls.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130036.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then mixed some resin and poured the resin into the RTV. After 15 minutes I removed the walls. They were still soft and I cut then at a height of three blocks high.
I then placed them around the area where I had room for the walls.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130052.jpeg)
Here is what the walls look like around the large tank, like crap. There just isn't enough room to do it properly and look decent.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130108.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011117130108.jpeg)
More in a few.
Okay, it was a few hours wasted but now I know.
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I looks better without the retaining wall around the tank. Sorry OSHA, but this is my railroad. ???
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161017174016.jpeg)
I definitely need a Diet Pepsi break after that rat #$%$%&^^!
Back after fortification.
On a happier note, I finally finished the chain link fence including all the barbed wire. I didn't realize I had almost 9 1:1 feet of the fencing.
I'll start the scenery and then plant the fence in the next few days.
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Stuff happens.....event with the best of planning. :)
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on November 01, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?
Jim
That's an excellent idea! Could use air-hardening clay for the "concrete".
dave
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 01, 2017, 03:44:13 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".
STUFF happens....
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Stuff happens? , and here's me thinking Forest Gump stepped into s..t ;)
Tom,
What about some chain link fence with a gate just around the stair entrance? It could butt up against the tank.....a little square of fencing...... It could satisfy the "safety issue" and provide for a cool little detail-- being as your fence work is outstanding!
Tom,
One can always tell a good modeler from a great modeler by the level of Deference one receives in questions presented by the viewer. Nice job all around Thomas.
KP-out...
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 01, 2017, 03:20:26 PM
Stuff happens.....event with the best of planning. :)
Greg,
Yes, it does and most assuredly it will.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 01, 2017, 03:44:13 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".
Ditto Curt!
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on November 01, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?
Jim
Hmm, you may be on to something here Jimbo! More on this alter this afternoon or later on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on November 01, 2017, 08:32:58 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on November 01, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
How about a poured concrete base with a curb around the tank ?
Jim
That's an excellent idea! Could use air-hardening clay for the "concrete".
dave
Dave,
Jimbo got me thinking on this like you did on the barbed wire issue.
Stay tuned.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on November 01, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 01, 2017, 03:44:13 PM
Looks great Tom. Like either you or Greg said "stuff happens".
STUFF happens....
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Yepper, it shur do!
TL 8)
Quote from: Janbouli on November 02, 2017, 04:30:48 AM
Stuff happens? , and here's me thinking Forest Gump stepped into s..t ;)
Jan,
I seem to step in my share of "stuff" on this build as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: rpdylan on November 02, 2017, 06:22:16 AM
Tom,
What about some chain link fence with a gate just around the stair entrance? It could butt up against the tank.....a little square of fencing...... It could satisfy the "safety issue" and provide for a cool little detail-- being as your fence work is outstanding!
Bob,
I sure like that idea. It would make for an interesting detail. However, the entire complex is enclosed with the chain link fence which sort of satisfies the safety issue.
Thank you for the kind compliment on the fence as well.
This morning I tried something else around the tank. If it doesn't meet my approval, your fence will be next.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on November 02, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
Tom,
One can always tell a good modeler from a great modeler by the level of Deference one receives in questions presented by the viewer. Nice job all around Thomas.
KP-out...
Thommy,
Thank you for the kind remark and support. Its good to have friends. 8) 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Well, Jimmillho got me thinking about the concrete pad thing. Although it is similar to what I tried to do first.
The idea still appealed to me so I gave it a try.
Here is what I did.
I first drew a line around the outside diameter of the tank. I used the old cardboard from the fence template.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132742.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132742.jpeg)
I have very little clearance between the earth works and the tank. The green marked on the HO scale 10X10 is what I have to play with as far as the area around the tank.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132759.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132759.jpeg)
More in a few.
I found the center of the 6" outside diameter of the tank, "X" marks the spot.
I then used a short piece of scrap strip wood and drilled a hole through the scrap. I placed this hole over the new template at the X and drilled a hole through the scrap into the cardboard. I used an extra fence post and placed it in the hold. The angle on the top of the post prevented it from falling through.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132815.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132815.jpeg)
You can see in the photo above I then placed the 10X10 next to the outside line of the tank.
I then drilled a hole just inside the area of the green on the scrap strip wood.
I placed a pen in the second hole and moved the scrap wood around the circle. This new outside circle is the area I have to play with.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132839.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132839.jpeg)
More in a few.
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Before I go any further I need to clean a spot for me to work.
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That's better. I have room to move now.
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More in a few.
I next cut out the circle from the larger piece of cardboard.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132945.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117132945.jpeg)
Here I'm just making sure the inner circle didn't move on me.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133005.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133005.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
I need to test fit the cardboard template to the layout. But first I need to cut out the area where the Tortoise fits.
I marked the area for the Tortoise and made the cut.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133021.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133037.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut out the area for the turnout linkage. I made the test fit and so far all is good.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133053.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133053.jpeg)
Here is a new look at the first stage of the new concrete pad.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133109.jpeg)
More in a few.
I took some .030" thick sheet styrene from Evergreen to use as a concrete pad.
I then used the cardboard template to outline the pattern onto the styrene.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133123.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133123.jpeg)
I'll fast forward here and show the pattern is now cut out of the styrene and it fits as it should on the layout where the tank sits.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133136.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time now.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133624.jpeg)
Now I need to build a retaining wall around the outside of the styrene pattern.
I want the wall to be thicker than the .030" styrene. I chose .040" but it turned out to be to stiff for gluing around the circle.
I decided to use .020" styrene and double the thickness. I glued on band of the .020" styrene around the outside. When dry, I added the second outside strip.
The height is the retaining wall is 3 HO scale feet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133733.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is the new concrete pad and retaining wall.
I'll leave this up for a few days and see if it grows on me. Your opinions are welcome.
For some reason this looks much more realistic than my first attempt at a wall around the tank. Also, I think it looks much like a hot water heater pan. I believe the difference is in the lack of space between the tank and retaining wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133804.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-021117133804.jpeg)
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I could possibly live with this but would like others input.
Tom ;D
Couldn't you have saved a bit of time and used an upside down Cool Whip lid? ;D
Joking aside, when you get the dirt and weedy covered berm around it , the concrete painted and grunged up a bit, it will look just right. 8)
I think it's great how you take input ideas and try to make them work. Like the barbed wire and now this. I looked up some pictures of containment berms, and yours looks too small to me. You're kinda stuck with it so close to the curve. Perhaps an earth berm with a bit more area to contain the tank contents would work. I'll have to look back at the whole scene.
Jeff
I think the earthen berm won't work. To close to the fence. If you're going to berm the other tanks as well, try a similar sized wall around them. Together they should look ok
Jeff
I think the walls are too thin to look correct. Just an idea, can you move the tortoise a little further back to give you more room? I know it would be a pain to do it.
I am sure even if you keep it as it you will make it look terrific.
Quote from: GPdemayo on November 02, 2017, 02:54:02 PM
Couldn't you have saved a bit of time and used an upside down Cool Whip lid? ;D
Joking aside, when you get the dirt and weedy covered berm around it , the concrete painted and grunged up a bit, it will look just right. 8)
Greg,
I'm not going to use this retaining wall. I'm just going to place it on the pad and add some gravel.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on November 02, 2017, 04:15:52 PM
I think the earthen berm won't work. To close to the fence. If you're going to berm the other tanks as well, try a similar sized wall around them. Together they should look ok
Jeff
Jeff,
The walls are to close to the fence and the tank. Space is the issue here. I don't have it. I'm just going with a concrete pad with a ring of gravel around the pad.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 02, 2017, 05:03:40 PM
I think the walls are too thin to look correct. Just an idea, can you move the tortoise a little further back to give you more room? I know it would be a pain to do it.
I am sure even if you keep it as it you will make it look terrific.
Curt,
Moving the Tortoise won't help as the tank is still large. You are correct in the walls being to thin.
I'm adding the concrete pad and a gravel ring and let it go at that. Too much time has been spent here but I wanted togive it a try in anyway.
Tom ;D
As I mentioned to the three respondents above, I'm going back to my first idea. I will add the Jim Miller concrete and add a small ring of gravel around the pad.
The problem here is space. Even if the space weren't the issue, I'd need space equal to the volume of the tank. The space needed would be dictated by the height of the wall and the volume of liquid being retained in said space.
Anyway, this has gone way beyond my pay scale and interest.
Jim Miller's concrete pad and Tom's gravel ring will be the end product.
Tom 8)
Tom,
I believe that what you are planning will look fine. I looked back a couple pages at an earlier photo. There is so much to look at with the building and multiple tanks, with this particular tank located near the rear, the missing berm will only be obvious to those of us who follow your thread. In other words, everyone, lol!
Love the hidden Tortoise! Great thread Tom!
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 02, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
Tom,
I believe that what you are planning will look fine. I looked back a couple pages at an earlier photo. There is so much to look at with the building and multiple tanks, with this particular tank located near the rear, the missing berm will only be obvious to those of us who follow your thread. In other words, everyone, lol!
Jerry,
I agree, it will look fine when finished. There is too much to see to worry about the retention barrier.
However, there will come a time when a rivet counter visits and he'll be sure to let me know the retention wall is missing. :o :o
I appreciate the comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on November 03, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
Love the hidden Tortoise! Great thread Tom!
Leo,
Thank you, much appreciated. The hidden Tortoise was a must. There is a 2X4 support directly under the turnout.
Tom ;D
I've been very busy the past few days working on the fence and some scenery updates.
I'll start with some tree updates around the north of the West Yard. I added a few new palm trees. I'd like to mention the Judge did a great job on getting the trees to look "not plastic". I believe I mentioned in the past the palm trees are Woodland Scenics.
I planted one tall palm in front of Sinners Mill.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104126.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104126.jpeg)
Two palms look much better or as us southerners say, "That's more betta". ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104142.jpeg)
Back in a few.
Here are a few more pictures of the addition of palms in certain areas.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104051.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104051.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104159.jpeg)
More in a few.
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I'll have some scenery and fence updates later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
My palms are sweating....
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Quote from: Donato on November 05, 2017, 01:33:39 PM
My palms are sweating....
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Yes, yours are but mine aren't! 8) 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Thought from my experience up in the panhandle that the expression is "mo betta'" :D
The Judge's trees look great.
While working on and installing the chain link fence, I noticed that my old scenery was really looking old. This is the first section of scenery I did and it is now almost two years old.
It was very basic and I've learned a little since then.
Here is what I'm speaking of. In the next picture you can see the old scenery on the right and the new updated scenery on the left.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104236.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104236.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: BandOGuy on November 05, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
Thought from my experience up in the panhandle that the expression is "mo betta'" :D
Chip,
You are correct about the Florida cracker speak. However, my mother is reading this and my degree was in English.
Just saying. By the way Mom passed in 2004 but she would say in her Southern Illinois speech to me, "Say it correctly or it isn't fitting and proper". ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 05, 2017, 01:54:56 PM
The Judge's trees look great.
Curt,
They do, he did a great job on them.
Tom ;D
Here is another picture of the old vs new scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104107.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104107.jpeg)
Time for a quick Diet Pepsi. Back in a drink or two.
I also started to finish the scenery along the back and against the photo back drop. I believe you can get the concept from the pictures without a bunch of narrative.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117103928.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117103928.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117103945.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117103945.jpeg)
More in a few.
New scenery at edge of road and base of building/photo backdrop. Old scenery by the fence.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104002.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104019.jpeg)
More in a few.
White glue at base of photo and edge of roadway.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104251.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104251.jpeg)
Very light sprinkling of green ground material.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104337.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104337.jpeg)
While glue is still tacky, a second layer of scenic material is added.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104357.jpeg)
The extra material on the road is just brushed up on the new material.
Continued in a few.
I added a little scenery material to the area between the track and road. I then installed the fence. The fence is very dirty but it doesn't show all that much in the picture.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104417.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104417.jpeg)
I glued some brown ground cover between the tracks and then glued the fuel platform in place . I used weights to hold the platform level until the glue was thoroughly dry (over night).
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104435.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104435.jpeg)
More in a few.
To get some brown scenery material under the platform I cut a piece of paper at an angle. I added the material and tapped the side to dust the material under the platform.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104454.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104454.jpeg)
I then added the two track gates.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104511.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117104511.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144123.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144123.jpeg)
You can see that the scenery is now between the front fence and the track in the lower left of the picture.
This time I installed the fence, weathered it in place with medium Brown stain from Hunterline and then added the scenery.
To be honest is was easier to do it this way then to add the fence after the scenery is in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144139.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144139.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144155.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144155.jpeg)
Yep, more in a few.
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Hopefully you can see then rust and pipe weathering in this ground level view.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144225.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-051117144225.jpeg)
Done for the day and not only that, I'm not doing anymore either.
See ya later in the week.
Very nice modeling. The patina on the pipes is right on the mark.
Backing up a few photos or days, what is the approximate volume of the storage tank that's scaled over the Tortise machine: in 1:1, how many gallons of fuel would that rascal hold? Driving uptown this afternoon I noticed a local oil dealer has a similar tank and the barrier ring around it is three cinder block courses high, There must be a formula out there that says how high the "ring" should be in relation to the volume of the tank. My quick fix if I was faced with this problem would be to look for something cylindrical like the cardboard center of the roll of tape in one of your photos and face it with something replicating concrete or cinder blocks. But who am I to tell the master how to do anything?
Excellent Tom. Is the color difference in the scenery due to different colors used, or is it the fading after 2 years. Not sure from the photo's , but I think I like the older faded colors a bit better.
Hi Tom:
It just looks better every time I see it.
Karl
Wow Tom! I go away to this Expo thingie for a few days and you've made some impressive progress. The updated scenery is really looking good, and the whole fuel complex is superb. It looks like it'll be 2018 before I can get down your way to check out things in person...ugh!
Your quality of workmanship continues to amaze me. The layout looks fantastic.
As to OSHA - it don't exist in your time frame. So one just has to figure out what your legal beagles would want to do to minimize lawsuits.
For the tank's dike. You ain't got the room for one. Current codes (NFPA) require, in your case, for the dike to hold the tanks largest volume of flammable material. I have no clue as to when diking became a thing, but I doubt there was in your time frame. So I guess do what ever suits your eye and not to meet any code or regulation. Of course, with a dike, you may need to provide a fixed ladder for your little people up and over the dike wall. There is a need to provide for a valved outlet to drain all the rainwater out of the enclosure that will accumulate over the course of a year.
Excellent Tom!
Hi Tom:
Looks absolutely beautiful as always.
Karl
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 05, 2017, 05:29:45 PM
Very nice modeling. The patina on the pipes is right on the mark.
Curt,
Thanks very much. By the way, thanks for stopping by Wednesday to meet Frank. We had a great time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on November 05, 2017, 07:10:34 PM
Backing up a few photos or days, what is the approximate volume of the storage tank that's scaled over the Tortise machine: in 1:1, how many gallons of fuel would that rascal hold? Driving uptown this afternoon I noticed a local oil dealer has a similar tank and the barrier ring around it is three cinder block courses high, There must be a formula out there that says how high the "ring" should be in relation to the volume of the tank. My quick fix if I was faced with this problem would be to look for something cylindrical like the cardboard center of the roll of tape in one of your photos and face it with something replicating concrete or cinder blocks. But who am I to tell the master how to do anything?
Chip,
I'm not sure what the volume formula is and I know I don't have the room for the proper one anyway. This was long prior to OSHA sticking their noses in every ones business.
I think the purpose of the retaining wall is to stop the flow of overflows or slow leaks; however, I'm only guessing here.
Thank you for stopping by and posting your thoughts.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on November 06, 2017, 03:32:46 AM
Excellent Tom. Is the color difference in the scenery due to different colors used, or is it the fading after 2 years. Not sure from the photo's , but I think I like the older faded colors a bit better.
Jan,
Thank for the comments and the compliment.
The color difference is due slightly to fading but I didn't use a lot of green in this area the first time around. Also, I must admit the bright green colors are due to me getting lazy and hitting the "auto adjust colors" button on the photo program. Even thought this layout is always late spring early summer, the colors on the layout aren't actually as green as they appear on the forum.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on November 06, 2017, 07:49:57 AM
Hi Tom:
It just looks better every time I see it.
Karl
Karl,
You are very kind, thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on November 08, 2017, 12:08:21 PM
Wow Tom! I go away to this Expo thingie for a few days and you've made some impressive progress. The updated scenery is really looking good, and the whole fuel complex is superb. It looks like it'll be 2018 before I can get down your way to check out things in person...ugh!
Mark,
I feel like I've been slacking off some but I'm still plugging away at the fuel facility. Thank you as well for the scenery compliment, much appreciated.
As far as I know, pending any act of God calling me home, I should be here all of 2108.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Oldguy on November 08, 2017, 02:36:32 PM
Your quality of workmanship continues to amaze me. The layout looks fantastic.
As to OSHA - it don't exist in your time frame. So one just has to figure out what your legal beagles would want to do to minimize lawsuits.
For the tank's dike. You ain't got the room for one. Current codes (NFPA) require, in your case, for the dike to hold the tanks largest volume of flammable material. I have no clue as to when diking became a thing, but I doubt there was in your time frame. So I guess do what ever suits your eye and not to meet any code or regulation. Of course, with a dike, you may need to provide a fixed ladder for your little people up and over the dike wall. There is a need to provide for a valved outlet to drain all the rainwater out of the enclosure that will accumulate over the course of a year.
Bob,
Thank you for the very generous compliment on my layout.
Reference the tank thing, I think it looks better without the dike wall anyway. A spill is a spill and if it happens, I'll just torch it off. I'm very good at starting fires. 8)
So, there will be no dike wall on this tank.
Tom ;D
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on November 09, 2017, 02:01:23 AM
Excellent Tom!
Leo,
Good to see you and thank you for the compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on November 09, 2017, 07:44:10 AM
Hi Tom:
Looks absolutely beautiful as always.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you my friend as always. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on November 08, 2017, 02:36:32 PM
Your quality of workmanship continues to amaze me. The layout looks fantastic.
As to OSHA - it don't exist in your time frame. So one just has to figure out what your legal beagles would want to do to minimize lawsuits.
For the tank's dike. You ain't got the room for one. Current codes (NFPA) require, in your case, for the dike to hold the tanks largest volume of flammable material. I have no clue as to when diking became a thing, but I doubt there was in your time frame. So I guess do what ever suits your eye and not to meet any code or regulation. Of course, with a dike, you may need to provide a fixed ladder for your little people up and over the dike wall. There is a need to provide for a valved outlet to drain all the rainwater out of the enclosure that will accumulate over the course of a year.
Bob,
Thank you for the very generous compliment on my layout.
Reference the tank thing, I think it looks better without the dike wall anyway. A spill is a spill and if it happens, I'll just torch it off. I'm very good at starting fires. 8)
So, there will be no dike wall on this tank.
Tom ;D
Tom, Does one of the new vehicles you just received from Raymo happen to be a fire truck?
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 10, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on November 08, 2017, 02:36:32 PM
Your quality of workmanship continues to amaze me. The layout looks fantastic.
As to OSHA - it don't exist in your time frame. So one just has to figure out what your legal beagles would want to do to minimize lawsuits.
For the tank's dike. You ain't got the room for one. Current codes (NFPA) require, in your case, for the dike to hold the tanks largest volume of flammable material. I have no clue as to when diking became a thing, but I doubt there was in your time frame. So I guess do what ever suits your eye and not to meet any code or regulation. Of course, with a dike, you may need to provide a fixed ladder for your little people up and over the dike wall. There is a need to provide for a valved outlet to drain all the rainwater out of the enclosure that will accumulate over the course of a year.
Bob,
Thank you for the very generous compliment on my layout.
Reference the tank thing, I think it looks better without the dike wall anyway. A spill is a spill and if it happens, I'll just torch it off. I'm very good at starting fires. 8)
So, there will be no dike wall on this tank.
Tom ;D
Tom, Does one of the new vehicles you just received from Raymo happen to be a fire truck?
Jerry,
Ha, great question. No firetrucks in this lot. I do have a few for the layout but none from Raymo.
I'll be posting his vehicles in about an hour here on the A&S thread as well as on the Raymo Vehicle thread.
Tom ;D
There has been much vehicle traffic on the A&S RR this cool day in Tahope County.
Here we see a Raymo 10 wheel semi on the bridge over the Suwannee River.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120220.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120220.jpeg)
Behind the semi we see an Army Staff car in front of an Army Recruit bus.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120307.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120307.jpeg)
They must be going to the train station to pick up new recruits.
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The word is out the the President of the A&S RR is very low on Pepsi. Here we see a Pepsi truck approaching the rural gas and grocery store. I'm sure a large load of Diet Pepsi will be left here.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120428.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120428.jpeg)
It took a little fancy backing but the driver got the truck in so the Diet Pepsi could be unloaded.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120412.jpeg)
After completing the delivery, the truck is on the way to unload more Diet Pepsi in another location. It is just passing Three Fingered Freddy's.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120445.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120445.jpeg)
In the mean time, we see a yellow cab at the station picking up a passenger.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120557.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120557.jpeg)
Those vehicles are fantastic!
I hope no train is coming.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120610.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101117120610.jpeg)
Quote from: LongHornCaddy on November 10, 2017, 12:21:34 PM
Those vehicles are fantastic!
Leo,
Yes, they are. Dan Raymond is a master at vehicle construction. I've never seen any better than these.
Tom ;D
We see a local Pepsi delivery truck on the old Chenny Highway.
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Appears we have another delivery of Pepsi. One never knows when Langford will stop to get his favorite libation.
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Looks like the driver is in no hurry to get back out on the road.
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I see the yellow cab has pulled into the parking lot at Three Fingered Freddy's Fireworks.
Wonder why he stopped there?
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My guess is that he got tired of following the slow DPW dump truck and decided to pull over and let the truck get on down the road a bit.
I hope Raymo isn't the driver of the DPW truck.
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8 hours Tom, 8 hours! Glad to see the mudflaps made it back on the Mack before the State D.O.T. pulled him over.
Quote from: Raymo on November 10, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
8 hours Tom, 8 hours! Glad to see the mudflaps made it back on the Mack before the State D.O.T. pulled him over.
Dan,
These vehicles are wonderful. Yes, the truck shop got the flaps back on and in good shape. I didn't see any PO PO's but that don't mean they ain't around the next tree or bill board.
Thank you for the vehicles and I'll send more $$$ when you have any others.
Tom ;D
Awesome looking vehicles, especially the bus.
Tom and Dan
The vehicles look great.
Thanks for the nice comments. I got the idea for the bus after finding a photo of one in a junkyard out west.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 10, 2017, 03:30:53 PM
Awesome looking vehicles, especially the bus.
Curt,
Thanks for stopping by. Yes, the bus is wonderful.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on November 10, 2017, 03:36:08 PM
Tom and Dan
The vehicles look great.
John,
I appreciate you following along. Dan is the man when it comes to vehicles.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Raymo on November 10, 2017, 03:46:24 PM
Thanks for the nice comments. I got the idea for the bus after finding a photo of one in a junkyard out west.
Dan,
You are very welcome. The bus is wonderful and is perfect for the A&S RR.
Thank you.
Tom ;D
Well, I managed to get some work done after having the crud for the better part of two weeks.
I did more work on the quonset hut building. The kit comes with a plastic deck that fits on the left front and left side.
I glued the two pieces together and used a piece of scrap spruce to hold the bottom as the glue dried.
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More in a few.
I did a test fit to make sure the two deck pieces were square to the structure.
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It all fit nicely.
I then stained some HO scale strip wood and glued them to the plastic deck. I used scale 2x8's for front and side edges. I used scale 2x6's for the decking.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-301117163802.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-301117163802.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quonset Hut?
Did you say Quonset Hut?
The best beer I ever had in my life was a cold bottle(s) of San Miguel ((better known by its real name Sam Magoo)) with/for lunch at Naval Station Subic Bay, Republic of the Philippines after a very long stretch as a member of the Tonkin Bay Yacht Club.
I know that's not railroad related, but ah, the memory!
Thanks, Tom.
Great work Tom.
Quote from: BandOGuy on November 30, 2017, 05:17:35 PM
Quonset Hut?
Did you say Quonset Hut?
The best beer I ever had in my life was a cold bottle(s) of San Miguel ((better known by its real name Sam Magoo)) with/for lunch at Naval Station Subic Bay, Republic of the Philippines after a very long stretch as a member of the Tonkin Bay Yacht Club.
I know that's not railroad related, but ah, the memory!
Thanks, Tom.
Chip,
Yes, I did say quonset hut. Its good to be able to get some of your memory juices flowing again. You are quite welcome.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 30, 2017, 05:56:30 PM
Great work Tom.
Curt,
As always, thank you for the kind compliment.
Tom ;D
I just had a nice hour visit from Reading Bob. He stopped by on the way to bowling.
I used HO scale 6x6's for the support posts. I glued the support posts in place and then glued the deck sub structure in place. While that was drying I painted the quonset hut roof.
I used Floquil Polly Scale Aged White full strength on the roof. I then applied one coat of Hunterline A&I light gray to the roof. When dry, I used various shades of gray, beige, and burnt sienna Pan Pastels on the roof.
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Continued in a few.
I continued the installation of the fence around the large tank. I'll add more scenery around the base of the fence tomorrow. The fence is loose as it is now and will be glued and let dry over night.
I'll also add one final coat of A&I weathering to the fence.
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This last picture gave me a total of 3950 pictures for the thread.
Tom ...
This is one cool railroad.
3950 photos eh!!!
But how many diet pepsi's????
Just thinkin' out loud
See ya
Bob.
3950 Photo's , and we're very grateful for every one of them.
Hi Tom:
yes I agree your have a great RR and I really like your fences.
Karl
Excellent looking work Tom. That is a lot of photos!
We all know that Tom likes to take pictures of his layout. Having recently visited Tom and seeing his beautiful layout, I can say that it is much better in person. So-o-o, the next time you get an urge to travel, go see Tom's layout first, then go see the house that the mouse built. Tom's layout is better.This is a wonderful layout and I hope to see it in publication once he gets a bit further along. Tom has captured the feeling of Florida in this beautiful layout. In the meantime, more pictures please. All the best, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
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Great looking Hut Tom.
Just keep on Keeping on.
Jim
Quote from: bparrish on November 30, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
Tom ...
This is one cool railroad.
3950 photos eh!!!
But how many diet pepsi's? ???
Just thinkin' out loud
See ya
Bob.
Bob,
Thank for stopping by and for the compliment on the railroad.
Yes, that is a lot of pictures.
How many Diet Pepsi's did I drink. Well, Lets say I drink two a day. Sometimes three so I'll say 17 a week times 52 weeks a year = 884 give or take a few. Multiply that by the four years when I started removing the old layout and building this one.
884 X 4 = 3536 Diet Pepsi drinks. Give or take a few of course. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on December 01, 2017, 04:21:27 AM
3950 Photo's , and we're very grateful for every one of them.
Jan,
Thank you, it has been fun and a lot of extra work.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on December 01, 2017, 07:59:40 AM
Hi Tom:
yes I agree your have a great RR and I really like your fences.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you as always. The fences were very time consuming but well worth the effort. Again, I appreciate you checking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 01, 2017, 09:15:44 AM
Excellent looking work Tom. That is a lot of photos!
Curt,
Thank you. Yes, and much more pictures to follow over time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on December 01, 2017, 09:57:21 AM
We all know that Tom likes to take pictures of his layout. Having recently visited Tom and seeing his beautiful layout, I can say that it is much better in person. So-o-o, the next time you get an urge to travel, go see Tom's layout first, then go see the house that the mouse built. Tom's layout is better.This is a wonderful layout and I hope to see it in publication once he gets a bit further along. Tom has captured the feeling of Florida in this beautiful layout. In the meantime, more pictures please. All the best, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thank you so very much for the kind and very generous compliment on my work and the layout. It has been fun but as you know a lot of work.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on December 01, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
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Donato,
Yes, he is, er, I am. Hopefully, I've had enough of the crud to last me for quite some time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on December 01, 2017, 01:14:46 PM
Great looking Hut Tom.
Just keep on Keeping on.
Jim
Jim,
Thank you Butty. Come on by one Saturday and join the Judge and I for lunch at the Bones.
Tom ;D
Okay,
I have a correction to make on the number of pictures. I got to thinking, dang that is a whole bunch of pictures. I checked my gallery number and only had 3050 showing, not 3,950. So, I set out to find the number difference.
Almost 10 months ago, I transposed a number in the gallery and kept counting from there. :'( :'(
So, I only have 3,050 pictures on the two threads. Still a lot of pictures.
Now the fun part was I spent several hours this afternoon renumbering 900 pictures to reflect the correct/corresponding number.
Tom ;D
I continued work on the oil facility today.
I added gravel to the base of the three horizontal tanks. I brushed on full strength white glue and then added the gravel. The gravel is actually CSX ballast from Arizona Rock.
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When the glue was dry, I brushed off the excess gravel.
More in a few.
I made another test fit with the base and used a pencil to trace the outline of the base on the plywood.
You can also see I ballasted or graveled (sp) around the large tank. The color difference is due to the matte medium I used on the gravel around the tank. It's still wet.
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I next added the three horizontal tanks and piping.
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More in a few.
Here's a much better view of the piping around and under the tanks.
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-011217171032.jpeg)
More in a few.
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The pump house was added to the rear of the pipes.
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Great modeling Tom! And we sure are enjoying all the pictures you are posting-thank you for putting in the time to share your work with us. So what do you have planned for the next 3000+ photographs? ;) I'm enjoying following along my friend. And learning a thing or two along the way, too! It's good to see you feeling better!
The area looks great. Are you going to weather the tanks or keep them new looking?
Excellent modeling Tom! I am amazed at how fast you work and still able to keep the quality of the work at A+ levels. Thanks again for all of the photo-journalism that you provide as you progress.
Really looks great Tom! It was nice to drop in and see the continued high-level progress.
John
Downsizing? Eeeek! Guess I better bump getting back to Phoenix up the priority list...
Quote from: S&S RR on December 01, 2017, 07:49:59 PM
Great modeling Tom! And we sure are enjoying all the pictures you are posting-thank you for putting in the time to share your work with us. So what do you have planned for the next 3000+ photographs? ;) I'm enjoying following along my friend. And learning a thing or two along the way, too! It's good to see you feeling better!
John,
Thank you my friend. For the next 3000+ will be more of the layout and the center isle of the second level and the third level as well.
Glad you are getting something out of all the posts.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 01, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
The area looks great. Are you going to weather the tanks or keep them new looking?
Curt,
Thank you as always kind sir. Yes, the tanks are being weathered. In fact they already are. I've just been behind on posting all the updates.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on December 02, 2017, 06:45:42 AM
Excellent modeling Tom! I am amazed at how fast you work and still able to keep the quality of the work at A+ levels. Thanks again for all of the photo-journalism that you provide as you progress.
Mark,
Thank you, very much appreciate the kind words. I've been a bit lazy working on the layout as late. The flu had me down for 2+ weeks. I just try to model the best I can. Of course learning from past mistakes sure helps. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on December 02, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
Really looks great Tom! It was nice to drop in and see the continued high-level progress.
John
John,
Good to see you last month. Thanks for the compliment as well. Stop by anytime your in the neighborhood.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on December 06, 2017, 04:28:52 PM
Downsizing? Eeeek! Guess I better bump getting back to Phoenix up the priority list...
James,
Getting out to see Frank's wonderful Morristown & Erie Railroad is on my bucket list as well.
Tom ;D
I hope to post an update or two this afternoon. The flu had me down for the better part of two weeks. :'( :'(
Tom ;D
Time to bury the two vertical tanks located behind the quonset hut.
I marked the location of the tanks with a #2 pencil.
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More in a few.
I wet the area inside the pencil marks with water and let is soak for about 30 minutes. I then used a putty knife to remove the loose gravel.
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I then replaced the tanks to make sure I got all the gravel out from under and around the tank bases.
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More in a few.
I removed the tanks and weathered them using Hunterline A&I stains and when dry I used some Pan Pastels. I set them aside to dry overnight.
I then glued the tanks to the plywood and added the gravel around the tanks. The gravel appears light prior to adding the wet water and matte medium. When the matte medium is dry all the gravel will be the same color.
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Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
I finished gluing the loading rack supports, nozzle pipes and other piping details together.
The nozzles and the deck under the nozzles were painted with Model Masters Jet Exhaust. The red on the rear cross bar is the result of an errant brush as the fauset handles were being painted. This has since been corrected. 8) 8)
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Continued in a few.
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Tomorrow I'll show the weathered fuel tanks, loading racks and all the piping. I'm finally getting close to the finish line or this fuel depot.
Thanks to all following along on this adventure.
Looks great Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2BWFRddtU&index=32&list=PLClr4VcnXUUxHhltw9XBgqfmvA68nAvCn
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 07, 2017, 06:00:10 PM
Looks great Tom. I can't wait to see it in person.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I'll be here on December 16 and the 23rd. come on by and see the progress and join us for lunch.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on December 07, 2017, 10:22:25 PM
Thom,
I love that song! The lyrics are catchy and you can smell the tar of the Georgia pines. Thanks for the lift in my day.
Tom ;D
I weathered the tanks and piping using Hunterline A&I Light Gray and Medium Brown. The medium brown appears like dried gasoline/oil and gunk on the piping after the first light gray application.
The weathering doesn't show all that much in the photos but it is medium to heavily weathering.
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More in a few.
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I then added the gravel around the tanks. I painted on white glue, added some gravel and then the tank sub structure.
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More in a few.
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Back after grabbing a Diet Pepsi.
I then added more gravel around the base of the structure to cover the edges.
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I forgot to mention I added PURE decals to the two outside tanks. I didn't waste a decal on the center one as it won't show once the roof is on.
PURE decal added to the large tank as well.
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More in a few.
While the glue on the base structure was drying, I added two weights to hold it in position. I didn't want any surprises in the morning. Better safe than sorry as someone said, whomever that was.
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I'll finish this late tomorrow afternoon.
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 08, 2017, 05:03:40 PM
I then added more gravel around the base of the structure to cover the edges.
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I forgot to mention I added PURE decals to the two outside tanks. I didn't waste a decal on the center one as it won't show once the roof is on.
PURE decal added to the large tank as well.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-081217164805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-081217164805.jpeg)
More in a few.
Your going to be glad you put them PURE decals on there when you see what's coming!
It sounds like Tom has been good and Santa is hard at work. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on December 08, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
It sounds like Tom has been good and Santa is hard at work. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Remember their slogan....."Be Sure With Pure".....looking great Tom..... 8)
Quote from: Raymo on December 08, 2017, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 08, 2017, 05:03:40 PM
I then added more gravel around the base of the structure to cover the edges.
I forgot to mention I added PURE decals to the two outside tanks. I didn't waste a decal on the center one as it won't show once the roof is on.
PURE decal added to the large tank as well.
Your going to be glad you put them PURE decals on there when you see what's coming!
Dan, Am I getting a surprise with something "PURE"? 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 09, 2017, 09:38:00 AM
Remember their slogan....."Be Sure With Pure".....looking great Tom..... 8)
Greg,
Thank you, much appreciated and yes, I purely remember the slogan for sure. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
I weathered and added the gate.
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More in a few.
The loading platform has the roof installed.
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Here is a look at the rear of the horizontal tanks and the pump house.
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The tanks aren't even close to being this shinny.
More in a few.
Side view of loading and piping dock under the roof.
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I thought I'd show these next four pictures in a larger format to see how they load and look.
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These last four pictures were 700 X 518 pixels. Normally my pics are 550 X 407 pixels.
I wanted to see how larger pictures looked without you having to click on the picture to bring it into the full viewable format.
However, you can still click the photos to change the view.
Tom ;D
Now that I'm finished with the actual construction of the Walthers building, I'd like to add my perspective on the instructions.
The quonset hut and five oil tanks along with the oil loading platform turned out to be decent looking kits. And, they can be kit bashed fairly easily. These are two of the many Cornertsone Series Kit.
However, the instructions are very poorly written and the diagrams leave much to be desired. In the instructions some of the numbers of the parts don't correspond with the numbers on the diagram. There are numbers on the diagram that aren't mentioned in the instructions.
The instructions are ambiguous at best and a couple of the diagrams are very confusing.
If any of you have built a MTS (Model Tech Studios) kit you know what very bad instructions mean.
The Walthers Cornerstone instructions for these two kits are in very close competition.
I'll venture to guess that the proof reader or quality control person for these kits was out to lunch when it went to print.
Just saying.
Tom 8)
What an absolutely amazing looking scene, thanks for sharing Tom
Teaser photo..... ;)
Tom,
As usual, just a great, well planned, realistic (and superbly modeled) industry. Your fences really frame the scene. So much eye candy! Wow!
Well Tom, you have done it again with this model. Nice job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Tom...you should do this for a living ....
BEAUTIFUL (as usual!)
This is really a wonderful scene Tom. You really have a great sense of detail and how to frame a scene.
Quote from: Janbouli on December 09, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
What an absolutely amazing looking scene, thanks for sharing Tom
Jan,
Thank you for the kind compliment. And, you are welcome. I appreciate you and all for stopping by and looking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Raymo on December 09, 2017, 07:48:16 PM
Teaser photo..... ;)
Dan,
It sure looks good and you can tease me all the time. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 10, 2017, 06:47:49 AM
Tom,
As usual, just a great, well planned, realistic (and superbly modeled) industry. Your fences really frame the scene. So much eye candy! Wow!
Jerry,
Thank you, much appreciated. I really like my fences for this area. They turned out better than I expected.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on December 10, 2017, 01:18:56 PM
Well Tom, you have done it again with this model. Nice job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve,
Thank you for the kind comment on the models. I'm very pleased with how they turned out. Again, thanks.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on December 10, 2017, 02:15:16 PM
Hey Tom...you should do this for a living ....
BEAUTIFUL (as usual!)
Donato,
Thanks very much my friend. That is exactly what my babe said the other day. I said I do do it for a living, MY LIVING!
I have no idea what else I'd be doing if I didn't have the empire to build and scenic.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on December 10, 2017, 03:03:49 PM
This is really a wonderful scene Tom. You really have a great sense of detail and how to frame a scene.
Mark,
Thank you, appreciated as always. I thought about the scene the better part of a year prior to staring on it. I have plans for tons of yard details for the open spaces inside the fence. More on this later next year.
Tom ;D
I was looking for something and found several small structures in a box under the layout. I found one that I though would fit in a spot near the Suwannee River Lagoon area. I don't remember who made the model but I do know it is at least 40 years old and came off a local store layout - another fallen flag layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150449.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150449.jpeg)
Hey, what good is a southern red neck cracker layout without a back woods gun shop?
I used a wood chisel to clear the land for the gun shop.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150605.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150605.jpeg)
More in a few.
I see from this next photo I'll need to reset the roof.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150623.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150623.jpeg)
Here is how it looks in the overall scene.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150644.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150644.jpeg)
More in a few.
Remember the small green area behind the three horizontal tanks?
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-081217164926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-081217164926.jpeg)
The next picture tells the rest of the story. I planned this area for some palm trees.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217151038.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217151038.jpeg)
More in a few.
I planted more palms around the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150706.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-101217150706.jpeg)
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Time for a Diet Pepsi. Back later this afternoon.
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Beautiful modeling Tom. I will try to get down there Saturday.
Looking great! Interesting to see Florida scenic layout as opposed to the usual Northern or western interpretation. Jim
Tom
It just keeps getting better. Very nice scenes.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 10, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
Beautiful modeling Tom. I will try to get down there Saturday.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir, very much appreciated. See you tomorrow. All are welcome.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on December 10, 2017, 06:40:19 PM
Looking great! Interesting to see Florida scenic layout as opposed to the usual Northern or western interpretation. Jim
Jim,
Thank you, your kind words are appreciated. Once the Babe and I visited Cliff Powers and his wonderful MAG Route, I knew this new layout was a matter of time. I love how he captured the look and feel of the South.
I told Cliff, "I'm gong home, rip out my old layout and plagiarize all I can into my version of a North Florida, South Georgia layout theme."
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on December 11, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
Tom
It just keeps getting better. Very nice scenes.
John,
Much appreciate your support and stopping by for an update on the layout. Thank you.
Tom ;D
Well, I've been quiet on the layout thread but not quiet on the work. There are many updates, mostly scenery wise. I've been updating some old faded scenery areas as well as finishing the fuel facility area.
I'll have a few up dates later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
I planted a few palms around Caldwell Junction. Caldwell Junction is the name of the FOS kit here. It is also the maiden name of my Aunt Jane, Caldwell without the Junction. LOL!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153555.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153555.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153611.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153611.jpeg)
More in a few.
You can see in the previous photos the scenery is still wet as evidenced by the dirt road.
I also finished the chain link fence. It was a fun project but very tedious and time consuming. Although I think it was well worth the effort, it will be a very long time before I take on this project again.
Here's a look through one section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153625.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153625.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153645.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153645.jpeg)
I have many more details to add to this area. I did add a few weeds in the cracks and along the fence line. I've added a few spare pipe parts as well. Many many, more will be added.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153700.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here are a couple of over all photos of the area showing the completed fence.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153714.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153729.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-151217153729.jpeg)
Tom,
Nice scenes! I like the trackside shots, makes for realistic views.
Thanx Thom...
Beautiful Tom. You are a real craftsman.
Quote from: tct855 on December 15, 2017, 06:39:09 PM
Tom,
Nice scenes! I like the trackside shots, makes for realistic views.
Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you. The track level scenes do look better.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 15, 2017, 07:14:15 PM
Beautiful Tom. You are a real craftsman.
Curt,
Thank you as always. You are too kind.
Tom ;D
I probably said before, but I enjoy seeing the Florida scenic interpretation as many layouts as New England or Rocky Mountain based. Any alligators? Jim
Very well done. Two thumbs up. I'd give more, but I ran out of thumbs.
Quote from: Oldguy on December 16, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Very well done. Two thumbs up. I'd give more, but I ran out of thumbs.
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Hi Tom:
Looking real good. Never get tired of your pics.
Karl
Another great scene Tom.
Ya gotta really love it when a plan comes together..... 8)
Tom,
Looks very nice.
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 17, 2017, 09:03:49 AM
Ya gotta really love it when a plan comes together..... 8)
Looks like a plan and a half. ;D ;D
Jim
Quote from: jrmueller on December 16, 2017, 11:00:33 AM
I probably said before, but I enjoy seeing the Florida scenic interpretation as many layouts as New England or Rocky Mountain based. Any alligators? Jim
Jim,
Thank you, much appreciated. I've very much enjoyed building this layout. It is by far the best layout I've every done. No mountains and tunnels which is what North Florida And South Georgia is like. We do have sand hills though. 8)
Yes, I do have HO scale alligators. They will go in the lagoon around the bascule bridge.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Oldguy on December 16, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Very well done. Two thumbs up. I'd give more, but I ran out of thumbs.
Bob,
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated. Two thumbs up is good for me.
Thanks for stopping by and posting a comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on December 16, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: Oldguy on December 16, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Very well done. Two thumbs up. I'd give more, but I ran out of thumbs.
Donato,
Your photo gives a whole new meaning to "I'm all thumbs." Thank you for your wonderful sense of humor.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on December 16, 2017, 05:17:56 PM
Hi Tom:
Looking real good. Never get tired of your pics.
Karl
Karl,
As always, thank you! I have plenty of pictures to post in the future. Some later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on December 16, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
Another great scene Tom.
John,
Thanks very much. Glad you stopped by to look in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 17, 2017, 09:03:49 AM
Ya gotta really love it when a plan comes together..... 8)
Greg,
Not sure about Ya, but I sure do.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on December 17, 2017, 12:25:10 PM
Tom,
Looks very nice.
Steve,
Thank you kind sir, very much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on December 17, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 17, 2017, 09:03:49 AM
Ya gotta really love it when a plan comes together..... 8)
Looks like a plan and a half. ;D ;D
Jim
Jimmillho,
I agree 100 and a half percent! 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Okay, some scenery and then some pictures.
From this -
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Followed by this -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155552.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155552.jpeg)
To this -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155606.jpeg)
More in a few.
Over the past week I've been experimenting with larger format pictures on this thread.
I've made my decision to stick with my old normal size formatted pictures. While the larger size is nice, they take much longer to load into the gallery and an equal amount of time to load to the thread.
My guess is this is the reason S&S RR only loads one picture per post.
After these next few pictures, I'll return to the normal size pictures for the A&S thread and post two smaller ones per post. If I have a large area I'm trying to show, I'll post a larger picture. This will be a very rare occasion though.
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155621.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155621.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155636.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155636.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155650.jpeg)
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More in a few.
I planted about a dozen more palm trees around Delwin's Boat and Net Storage.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155739.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155739.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155755.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-161217155755.jpeg)
More in a few.
This is the last of my larger format pictures.
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Are you trying to tell us something with that STOP sign ;) .
Beautiful modeling as always Tom. Of course the pictures do not do justice to your layout.
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 17, 2017, 05:02:48 PM
Over the past week I've been experimenting with larger format pictures on this thread.
I've made my decision to stick with my old normal size formatted pictures. While the larger size is nice, they take much longer to load into the gallery and an equal amount of time to load to the thread.
My guess is this is the reason S&S RR only loads one picture per post.
After these next few pictures, I'll return to the normal size pictures for the A&S thread and post two smaller ones per post. If I have a large area I'm trying to show, I'll post a larger picture. This will be a very rare occasion though.
Continued in a few.
Tom
You are correct about the way I'm loading pictures. When I process pictures from my iPhone with Apple Photos the pictures are way to small and grainy on the medium setting. On the large setting I like the photos but you need to use the scroll bar to see the whole picture. And yes, I'm posting one picture per post because I don't like waiting for the pictures to load on to the forum. I need to use aperture to downsize the photographs with my SLR - this is a much longer process which will only be used for finished sections of my layout - final pictures.
Have you guys tried XNVIEW where you can change the size of your pictures before you upload them to the forum. Plus it has a lot of other features you may want to use. It is very easy to use.
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
Quote from: MAP on December 18, 2017, 06:04:49 AM
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
What Mark said!
Quote from: MAP on December 18, 2017, 06:04:49 AM
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
I agree.....oh wait, I AM in Florida......Looks great Tom.
Jim
Quote from: Janbouli on December 17, 2017, 06:32:30 PM
Are you trying to tell us something with that STOP sign ;) .
Hey Jan,
Thanks for following along. No, it just happened to be the last picture I posted. This thread isn't going away unless we have another forum crash. In that case, I'll just start where I'm currently in the build. No more going back and reposting all the pictures as I did last October, 2016.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2017, 08:32:32 PM
Beautiful modeling as always Tom. Of course the pictures do not do justice to your layout.
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I get many visitors saying the pictures don't do the layout justice. But I think that applies to all layouts as well.
Enjoyed your visit Saturday. The lunch at SM wasn't bad either.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on December 17, 2017, 09:28:38 PM
Tom
You are correct about the way I'm loading pictures. When I process pictures from my iPhone with Apple Photos the pictures are way to small and grainy on the medium setting. On the large setting I like the photos but you need to use the scroll bar to see the whole picture. And yes, I'm posting one picture per post because I don't like waiting for the pictures to load on to the forum. I need to use aperture to downsize the photographs with my SLR - this is a much longer process which will only be used for finished sections of my layout - final pictures.
John,
I figured that was what you were doing. I don't have the patience to wait for the larger format photos to load either.
My little 580 X 327 pixels is large enough for others to view and I don't have to wait on the load to the computer or the forum.
I certainly have no problem with one post per picture either. I like the two pictures per post which works best for me.
I enjoy your larger pictures. Keep it up, the pictures posting that is. Oops!
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on December 17, 2017, 09:48:22 PM
Have you guys tried XNVIEW where you can change the size of your pictures before you upload them to the forum. Plus it has a lot of other features you may want to use. It is very easy to use.
Steve,
I use Irfanview for my pictures. I do change the size prior to loading to the forum. What I was referring to is that even if I use the larger format in pixels after the cropping/prior to loading, it still takes several more seconds to load, both to the gallery and then the thread.
Irfan view is very easy and has over a hundred things/features one can do to the photo.
I appreciate your comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on December 18, 2017, 06:04:49 AM
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
Mark,
Much appreciate the comment, thank you. I really like the new look for this layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on December 18, 2017, 07:27:32 AM
Quote from: MAP on December 18, 2017, 06:04:49 AM
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
What Mark said!
Jerry,
What I said. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on December 18, 2017, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: MAP on December 18, 2017, 06:04:49 AM
Beautiful work Tom! All those scenes makes me feel like I'm standing there in Florida again!
I agree.....oh wait, I AM in Florida......Looks great Tom.
Jim
Jim,
Thanks Butty and I'm glad you are in Florida as well.
Tom ;D
Okay, here's my story and I'm sticking to it.
My goal was to have the second level, outside wall area of the layout finished by the end of the year. It appears now it isn't going to happen.
I'll assume the blame due to my own indolence at times. Last months two week Acute Bronchitis and a possible up coming hand surgery just put me out of the mood.
However, I haven't been idle either.
I mentioned on the daily baggage thread that I was going to do some layout clean up. It didn't really involve actual layout cleaning but rather cleaning the layout room.
More in a few. I need a cold Diet Pepsi.
I'm starting to think and getting excited about moving on to the third level of the layout. Prior to getting started with that project, I felt a definite need to reorganize all the stuff under the layout.
I have many of the same type items, like kits, Floquil paint, and freight cars, etc. all over the room and under the layout.
I wanted to get them all in one place so that when I'm looking for something, I can hopefully find it.
I'll start with the extra Floquil paints. I found all the paint I could and placed it all in one spot.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163141.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163141.jpeg)
I
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I put all the paint in one large Rubbermaid tub. Now, if I find anymore, I can put it in the tub with the rest - all in one place.
More in a few.
Freight cars, passenger cars and locos all over and under the layout.
I cleaned out a place under the west side of the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162829.jpeg)
I have four small 6 drawer cabinets I got from Ikea. They are great for storing freight cars.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162902.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162902.jpeg)
More in a few.
Frank Baker, Erieman, told me about a product he got from Bed, Bath and Beyond. It is a rubber shelf and drawer liner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162941.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162941.jpeg)
I have these six drawers to line.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162920.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162920.jpeg)
More in a few.
One roll covered all six drawers in one cabinet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163002.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163002.jpeg)
Fast forward and I've put all the extra freight cars in the one cabinet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163027.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163027.jpeg)
More in a few.
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I had many Mini Metal cars and trucks in three different drawers.
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These were all put in the one tub and any others found will go here also.
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More in a few.
I did the same thing with some locos and passenger cars.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163230.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163230.jpeg)
I now have two drawers under the west side of the layout and out of the way.
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More in a few.
Those cabinets are great , have to visit IKEA, but not tomorrow , tomorrow the Force will be strong where I'm going.
I found all my CCk and FOS kits and needed two tubs to get them out of the way. I had these kits in four different places.
I would buy a new kit and just place it where I found a space. Now I have them in two tubs under the center level and all in one place.
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Quote from: Janbouli on December 18, 2017, 05:43:38 PM
Those cabinets are great , have to visit IKEA, but not tomorrow , tomorrow the Force will be strong where I'm going.
Jan,
I got my first two for under $100.00 each. The Judge liked them and when he bought the other two they were around $122.00 each. God only knows what they are now. I've had these for 5+ years.
Tom ;D
They are the Alex series here , 100 euro's , but sometimes these are in the slightly damaged or sale area. Have to keep a look out for them.
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 18, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
Freight cars, passenger cars and locos all over and under the layout.
I cleaned out a place under the west side of the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162829.jpeg)
I have four small 6 drawer cabinets I got from Ikea. They are great for storing freight cars.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162902.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217162902.jpeg)
More in a few.
Sincerely hope to see all of those brass "blue boxes" operating in the very near future!
Tom,
Your room looks more like a hobby shop rather than a home layout. And a damn fine hobby store / layout!
After having a good laugh, i found out that I needed to move stuff in my train room so the window cleaner can get to the few windows that I have in the building. Of course, the windows are over my work areas and there is a major pile of stuff everywhere. I found things I have been looking for. Sounds familiar?
Have a great day my friend with your project.
Frank / Erieman
Tom
Great organization! I did a similar project in October just after the Narrow Gauge Convention. I put all the laser cut wood from Monster in one place during the process. I need some brick for my Locomotive Works floor. I sure wish I would have wrote down were that one place was that I put it. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D Labeling the boxes doesn't work - you need to write down were you put the box.
For a couple years before we moved, I couldn't find my truck tuner (that reams out/shapes the cone in car trucks to better fit the wheelset pointed axles.) I found it when I unpacked and put stuff into the new basement closet (that's holding model kits.) But damned if I can remember -where I put it-!!
dave :-X
Chip,
I have most of them painted and just waiting for the third level round house to be installed. Here are the ones that have TCS WOW installed and waiting for the third level.
The Judge and I take one out once in a while, run it and then put it back. At present, I don't have the room in the staging and second level to hold them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144220.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144220.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144235.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144235.jpeg)
More in a few.
When I started the removal of the old layout, I just boxed up stuff or filled tubs and shoved them under the new layout. Due to the height of the staging level, 28 inches off the floor, I only have room for one tub or a couple of small boxes.
By combining everything I find now, I can have two tubs in the center as the second level is 38 inches from the floor.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163402.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-181217163402.jpeg)
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More in a few.
The fun continues. It's like Christmas here.
I found a tub of blue boxes, all new and the freight cars unbuilt. Some of them are Bev-Bel. 50 all total in this one tub.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217150546.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217150546.jpeg)
I found a few yellow boxes on the bottom.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144902.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144902.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144727.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144727.jpeg)
One is a Central of Georgia 40' boxcar. The price was $1.69 in 1983.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg)
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This car is OP4, meaning out of production and very rare.
I also found this small box in the corner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217145001.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217145001.jpeg)
It contained 6 old Athearn 40 boxcars - five of them still have the old horn hook couplers. All are new with sprung trucks and no missing or broken parts. They are part of my Athearn collection and will go back into the display case.
All are 30 years or older.
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I found a small stash of Accurail boxcars.
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One box felt light so I checked it. It contained a few missing detail parts. I say missing as I just found them so they must have been missing. 8) 8)
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Now I need to check all box for more missing detail parts.
Quote from: Erieman on December 19, 2017, 11:17:29 AM
Tom,
Your room looks more like a hobby shop rather than a home layout. And a damn fine hobby store / layout!
After having a good laugh, i found out that I needed to move stuff in my train room so the window cleaner can get to the few windows that I have in the building. Of course, the windows are over my work areas and there is a major pile of stuff everywhere. I found things I have been looking for. Sounds familiar?
Have a great day my friend with your project.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Appreciate you stopping by. I get that a lot about the hobby shop. I know I'm better stocked than our local one for sure.
I'm still finding stuff I didn't know I lost or don't remember ever having it. Old age is definitely coming.
Tom
ACL 1504,
You are without a doubt the most organized modeler I have ever met (next to George). Curious? since you don't throw anything away obviously. Where do you put all your trash? ha. KP-out...
Quote from: S&S RR on December 19, 2017, 01:17:58 PM
Tom
Great organization! I did a similar project in October just after the Narrow Gauge Convention. I put all the laser cut wood from Monster in one place during the process. I need some brick for my Locomotive Works floor. I sure wish I would have wrote down were that one place was that I put it. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D Labeling the boxes doesn't work - you need to write down were you put the box.
John,
Hopefully, this time I'll find everything and get them in the correct batch with the other like items. Labeling is a great idea as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on December 19, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
ACL 1504,
You are without a doubt the most organized modeler I have ever met (next to George). Curious? since you don't throw anything away obviously. Where do you put all your trash? ha. KP-out...
KPI,
My Babe would disagree about the organization issue. I told her the house is not the same as the layout room. ;D ;D ;D
You know that went over well.
I put the trash in the trash tub so I can find what I threw out and may need one day. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on December 19, 2017, 02:00:48 PM
For a couple years before we moved, I couldn't find my truck tuner (that reams out/shapes the cone in car trucks to better fit the wheelset pointed axles.) I found it when I unpacked and put stuff into the new basement closet (that's holding model kits.) But damned if I can remember -where I put it-!!
dave :-X
Dave,
When I removed the old layout, I just started taking things off and putting them in the nearest box. Of course I didn't label anything so now it seems like Christmas all over again and/or a scavenger hunt.
I'm definitely getting to old for this kind of hunt.
Tom ;D
"100 pieces of steam on the wall, 100 pieces of steam. Take one down, run it around. 99 pieces of steam on the wall" :-) :-)
dave
Quote from: deemery on December 19, 2017, 04:03:17 PM
"100 pieces of steam on the wall, 100 pieces of steam. Take one down, run it around. 99 pieces of steam on the wall" :-) :-)
dave
Good one Dave! I approve.
Tom ;D
It must of been like an early Christmas on the A&I today.
Tom,
Can't wait for the opening date of the hobby shop since everything is now organized. Your layout updates just keep on getting better and better.
Tommy
Tom
I was glad to hear your surgery went well - I hope your recovery goes well, and is quicker than you expect.
Tom - Hopefully you are not in too much discomfort. I go to see a hand surgeon tomorrow to find out if anything can be done for my "trigger fingers ", time to put the Babe to "work on the Railroad." Best wishes and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Jim
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 19, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
One is a Central of Georgia 40' boxcar. The price was $1.69 in 1983.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144827.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144827.jpeg)
This car is OP4, meaning out of production and very rare.
Mine has a box price of $1.49, but it's dated earlier.
Boy I feel smart this evening.
Tom,
It is a shame this aging process gets in the way of our lives and slows other processes and goals. I am sure that you will go on a tear after your hand heals and will continue to provide your followers with eye candy. Hope you heal quickly and permanently, looking forward to the next bit of scenic progress.
Bob
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 19, 2017, 08:30:20 PM
It must of been like an early Christmas on the A&I today.
Curt,
Sorry for the late response. Yes, it has been like Christmas finding new old things.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on December 20, 2017, 03:42:50 AM
Tom,
Can't wait for the opening date of the hobby shop since everything is now organized. Your layout updates just keep on getting better and better.
Tommy
Tommy,
I'm still finding things that have been packed for years. I appreciate you following along. And, I still have a little organizing to do as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on December 20, 2017, 02:37:26 PM
Tom
I was glad to hear your surgery went well - I hope your recovery goes well, and is quicker than you expect.
John,
I appreciate you checking in and for the support. The surgery went very well with no problems to date. The stitches come out next week. I'll go from there.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on December 20, 2017, 06:30:42 PM
Tom - Hopefully you are not in too much discomfort. I go to see a hand surgeon tomorrow to find out if anything can be done for my "trigger fingers ", time to put the Babe to "work on the Railroad." Best wishes and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Jim
Jim,
Thanks for stopping by. No pain in the hand but a pain in the rear for the minor set back on not working on the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on December 20, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 19, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
One is a Central of Georgia 40' boxcar. The price was $1.69 in 1983.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144743.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144827.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-191217144827.jpeg)
This car is OP4, meaning out of production and very rare.
Mine has a box price of $1.49, but it's dated earlier.
Boy I feel smart this evening.
Chip,
Athearn came out with 3 versions of the Central of Georgia car. The one above, I forgot to mention this, is a special run for a Georgia RR Club. To my knowledge Athearn didn't make a 50' single door boxcar for the public.
The three original versions Athearn released were 40' C 0f G boxcars. I say three versions as the two runs were different colors of brown and one came in black. The two brown (actually one was more maroon than tuscan/brown) versions are shown below as part of my private collection.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281217103254.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-281217103254.jpeg)
Quote from: RWL on December 25, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
Tom,
It is a shame this aging process gets in the way of our lives and slows other processes and goals. I am sure that you will go on a tear after your hand heals and will continue to provide your followers with eye candy. Hope you heal quickly and permanently, looking forward to the next bit of scenic progress.
Bob
Bob,
Good to hear from you my friend. Yes, the aging process this past year has really cramped my style. I'm chomping at the bit now to get back to work on the layout full time.
2017 is a year I'll personally be happy to see go!
Tom ;D
Tom
Good to hear all is going well. Listen to your wife and the doctors and don't push it - we don't want to see a relapse. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress reports once again.
Quote from: S&S RR on December 28, 2017, 11:34:45 AM
Tom
Good to hear all is going well. Listen to your wife and the doctors and don't push it - we don't want to see a relapse. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress reports once again.
John,
I'm sorry I didn't see your recent post.
Thank you, I'm doing very well and the stitches came out this morning. The Babe made sure I listened to the doctor and followed his instructions. Again, thank you.
Tom ;D
The last month of 2107 was crazy around here. I was getting over the flu and then had hand surgery about 10 days prior to Christmas. I'm back in the saddle and almost back to 100% with the layout construction.
I'm building a small diner by Bar Mills called Sweaty Betty's. Here is the location it will reside. It is between Caldwell Junction and the small loco lubritorium.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020118190013.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020118190013.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020118190028.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020118190028.jpeg)
I won't be doing the build on this thread but will show the finished build in place.
If you so desire, you can follow the build at the link shown below.
http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/build-challenge-2018-bar-mills-sweaty-betty's/ (http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/build-challenge-2018-bar-mills-sweaty-betty's/)
Reorganizing the mystery boxes under the layout continues in preparation of the third level construction.
I showed ya'll a picture of the two white cabinets I moved and arranged under the West Staging Yard.
I did the same for the other two white cabinets and arranged them under the East Staging Yard.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180323.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180323.jpeg)
This project took me several hours today. I was slow and made sure not to bump my right hand. Also, I needed to remove some fascia, cut it to fit over the two cabinets and one piece to fit in between them.
It was really necessary but looks cleaner and neat.
More in a few.
One of the problems I faced this afternoon was the presence of a two receptacle outlet behind the cabinet on the left. I couldn't move it and once the cabinet was in place it was not accessible.
I tapped into the outlet, covered the opening and moved the out to the isle for easy use and access.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180340.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180340.jpeg)
Tom , how wide are those cabinets , they look like the one's IKEA here has but just a bit wider.
Quote from: Janbouli on January 08, 2018, 06:12:25 PM
Tom , how wide are those cabinets , they look like the one's IKEA here has but just a bit wider.
Jan,
These are the Alex cabinets from IKEA. They are great for storing stuff layout related.
They are 26" wide. Probably look wider due to the angle of the photos.
Tom ;D
Looks nice Tom.
I forgot to mention the most important find this morning.
I found my first Gilbert American Flyer Train Set. My dad bought it in 1946 but he didn't give it to me until 1956. I have everything except the power pack.
The price on the box is $17.98. My dad must have been rich then as we weren't later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180309.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080118180309.jpeg)
Thanks Tom , I looked them up and they also have less wide one's to put under a desk. Now I'll wait for Ikea sales or something like that and get a few.
Neat! :)
Wow what a great find, worth a lot in money but especially in memories.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
Looks nice Tom.
Curt,
Thank you. I've consolidated many like items and pawned my AHM and Revell plastic car collection to my son. Many of those cars won me trophies back in the 60's for model car contests. They are also in their respective original boxes. That freed up a whole bunch of room for more storage (train related) under the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on January 08, 2018, 06:21:17 PM
Neat! :)
Jim,
Thank you and thanks for checking in. I'm really freeing up much more room and get more of the clutter out of the middle area.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on January 08, 2018, 06:22:06 PM
Wow what a great find, worth a lot in money but especially in memories.
Jan,
I found it under the old layout and put it in a box so I wouldn't forget where it was. Well, I promply forgot where it was and found it again today in the box I put it in. I'm leaving it out this time.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Nice to hear you are cleaning out cobwebs and finding childhood boxes. How about empty out the box and show us some American Flyer eye candy. KP-out...
Hi Tom,
Whatever you had on your hand must be contagious. I was informed the other day that I am going to have a chunk of skin removed from my left forearm.
Quote from: tct855 on January 09, 2018, 02:30:53 PM
Tom,
Nice to hear you are cleaning out cobwebs and finding childhood boxes. How about empty out the box and show us some American Flyer eye candy. KP-out...
KP,
Here ya go!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118082316.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118082316.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118082335.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118082348.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118082401.jpeg)
Neat..... 8)
Quote from: sdrees on January 09, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
Hi Tom,
Whatever you had on your hand must be contagious. I was informed the other day that I am going to have a chunk of skin removed from my left forearm.
Steve,
Yea, must be in the water. Better have it removed before it turns into something else. My skin graft is doing very well and after only three weeks the Dr. said I could get back to layout work but to keep the graft covered while working.
Are you going to need the graft or just have the spot removed and stitched?
Tom 8)
T~,
Wow, it's so neat to see something older than me in such great shape. ha. KP-out...
Very cool Tom.
Tom,
I don't think that I have to have a skin graft because of it's location on my forearm.
Tom - I can't believe your American Flyer loco and cars are in such good shape. Get a power pack (or did we used to call them transformers?) and a circle of track and let's see how she runs! The Judge
Quote from: tct855 on January 10, 2018, 08:50:19 AM
T~,
Wow, it's so neat to see something older than me in such great shape. ha. KP-out...
Thom,
I'm very glad I kept this one in great condition. My American Flyer Santa Fe passenger train got the bad side of my youth.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on January 10, 2018, 12:17:59 PM
Tom,
I don't think that I have to have a skin graft because of it's location on my forearm.
Steve,
That is great news. I've had two grafts now. One on my left shin and this one.
I'm hoping one is enough. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on January 10, 2018, 01:51:56 PM
Tom - I can't believe your American Flyer loco and cars are in such good shape. Get a power pack (or did we used to call them transformers?) and a circle of track and let's see how she runs! The Judge
Judge,
I have all the original track also. The power pack, as we used to say, transformer, is long gone. No idea what happened to it.
I had one that looked like this one.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118143401.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100118143401.jpeg)
Well, the layout reorganization continues in preparation of starting the third level.
This is how the room looked this morning.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118152930.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118152930.jpeg)
While going through some boxes I found an original Sylvan Irv Shulz building.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153006.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153006.jpeg)
More in a few.
I forgot I have these neat kits. I have no harbor but the kits are going to be built in my after life.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153021.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153021.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153035.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153035.jpeg)
More in a few.
I now have all the original Magnuson kits in one place. Walthers purchased the Magnuson line and now you can get some of these in plastic.
The original Magnuson kit were and are resin.
Some of these kits I got at Chester Holly's Hobby Shop in Tampa, Fl. Chester was a character. He wore jeans a white t-shirt with yellow stains under the arm pits. He wore sandals with white socks. His shop was in an old warehouse with NO AC. I purchased the white box Magnuson kits from Chester back in the mid to late 70's.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153117.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153117.jpeg)
Any one remember the Magnuson Practice kits/
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153050.jpeg)
How about the Hotel flat?
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153103.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110118153103.jpeg)
For now the treasure hunting is over and I'm close to being ready to get moving on more bench work.
Oh, I'm still looking for all the stuff I bought from Slim just two months ago. I guess the hunting is on going after all. :'(
Tom ;D
Hi Tom:
Nice collection.
Karl
I built that Magnuson practice kit. Wonder where it is? :o
Jeff
I'm really enjoying your treasure hunt - Frank is right you have a hobby shop under your layout.
Tom,
I'm with S&S. It's sure nice to see I'm not the only one with the railroad disease " Igotstohaveeverythin idest". Thanx Thom...
Quote from: postalkarl on January 11, 2018, 03:51:22 PM
Hi Tom:
Nice collection.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you, it has been a hoarding for a very long time. My Babe says lets sell some of the train stuff and I'll buy more jewelry. I say, sell some jewelry and I'll buy more train stuff. ;D ;D ;D
It's a stand off.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on January 11, 2018, 04:30:38 PM
I built that Magnuson practice kit. Wonder where it is? :o
Jeff
Jeff,
You may find it one day. You can spray a new coat of paint and start over with new skills and knowledge.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on January 11, 2018, 05:05:51 PM
I'm really enjoying your treasure hunt - Frank is right you have a hobby shop under your layout.
John,
The treasure hunt has been fun, especially when I find something I didn't know I lost. 8) 8)
When Frank was here, he just shook his head.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on January 11, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Tom,
I'm with S&S. It's sure nice to see I'm not the only one with the railroad disease " Igotstohaveeverythin idest". Thanx Thom...
Thom,
After 50+ years of buying and stashing, a man is then known as a hoarder. I do fit that description of sorts.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 11, 2018, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 11, 2018, 05:05:51 PM
I'm really enjoying your treasure hunt - Frank is right you have a hobby shop under your layout.
John,
The treasure hunt has been fun, especially when I find something I didn't know I lost. 8) 8)
When Frank was here, he just shook his head.
Tom ;D
Don't let Frank fool you - I've been under his layout. Between the two of you I think you could fill Walther's warehouse. ;)
Full disclosure - my wife will tell you that I'm not to far behind. I can't believe how many kits I've collected over the years.
John,
Frank was shaking his head in the knowledge he also has a Hobby Shop under his layout.
Tom ;D
John & Tom,
While at Tom's, I admit that I was shaking my head. Tom has an awesome collection. Most of the stuff Tom has, WAS in my collection as well, but over the past couple of years, been thinned out. Granted, i still have a half a hobby shop under the layout, and the rest is on the top of it. There are over 200 structures of varying sizes currently on the layout. I don't recall buying all this stuff. It has just accumulated over the years. I'm getting a bit refined in what I buy as I get older.
Tom has gotten me into installing caboose marker lights and putting led lighting into some of my structures. The wife just saw those bills today. Merry Christmas. Now I'm going to buy some WOW sound decoders for my geeps. What has Tom got me into?!!! Thanks friend!!
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: Erieman on January 11, 2018, 09:51:37 PM
John & Tom,
While at Tom's, I admit that I was shaking my head. Tom has an awesome collection. Most of the stuff Tom has, WAS in my collection as well, but over the past couple of years, been thinned out. Granted, i still have a half a hobby shop under the layout, and the rest is on the top of it. There are over 200 structures of varying sizes currently on the layout. I don't recall buying all this stuff. It has just accumulated over the years. I'm getting a bit refined in what I buy as I get older.
Tom has gotten me into installing caboose marker lights and putting led lighting into some of my structures. The wife just saw those bills today. Merry Christmas. Now I'm going to buy some WOW sound decoders for my geeps. What has Tom got me into?!!! Thanks friend!!
Frank / Erieman
Afternoon Frank,
I've thinned out my stash over the past dozen years or so. Okay, well, I tried to thin out the stash. I kept saying to myself, "Self, oh wait, I may need that one day." Yep, classic sign of a hoarder.
I know we have stuff the local hobby shop lacks. But hey, they didn't have to sell their stash! :P :P
I've cut way back on many kits and need to sell a couple dozen or so. "Oh wait, I may build that one some day!"
Sorry my friend for getting you into the caboose marker lights and WOW sound for your loco.
Your layout will love you for it.
Tom ;D
The treasure hunt continued today and this afternoon. I hit the mother load today.
I found my very first Christmas train.
Here it is Christmas 1947 in Vandalia, Il. Under Mom's feet. Marx tinplate three rail.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-211214093431.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-211214093431.jpeg)
And here it is today.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163907.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163827.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163840.jpeg)
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Not that I needed any more freight cars but I found another 50 Accurail boxcars.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120118163921.jpeg)
I found other great treasures today as well. I'll show them later in the weekend.
Hi Tom,
My first train was also a Marx three rail tinplate about the same time, 1947, or there abouts. Have no idea where it is now, probably in some landfill.
My first train was also a Marx. It was a Christmas present in 1939 ( I am older then you Guys) and it sits on a shelf over the door in my train room. I had track, switches, automatic couplers and un-coupler track sections. I ran it all with a Lionel ZW transformer.
It is all gone except for the Train its self.
Jim
Quote from: sdrees on January 12, 2018, 07:22:01 PM
Hi Tom,
My first train was also a Marx three rail tinplate about the same time, 1947, or there abouts. Have no idea where it is now, probably in some landfill.
Steve,
I probably wouldn't have mine either if my parents didn't put away until my son was born.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on January 12, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
My first train was also a Marx. It was a Christmas present in 1939 ( I am older then you Guys) and it sits on a shelf over the door in my train room. I had track, switches, automatic couplers and un-coupler track sections. I ran it all with a Lionel ZW transformer.
It is all gone except for the Train its self.
Jim
Jim,
Glad you have your first train. I have a few pieces of track out of the circle but nothing in the way of a transformer.
Tom ;D
Here's more of the treasures I've found in the reorganization.
I found a box of car and truck treasures. The small plastic container contained some old Magnuson cars and trucks. Yes, back in the early to late 70's Magnuson had a line of vehicles in resin.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142233.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142233.jpeg)
I also found several Lee Town vehicles.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142247.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142247.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142300.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142300.jpeg)
A steam shovel and steam crane was uncovered.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142403.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142403.jpeg)
More in a few.
One of the larger plastic bins contained many nice treasures.
I found 15 original SS Ltd. kits.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142350.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142350.jpeg)
A dozen more Wheel Works trucks and one more steam shovel and crane.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142314.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142314.jpeg)
More in a few.
I also found 48+ Bar Mills Billboard signs. Both the wall mounted and stand alone signs. There were also about a dozen "N" scale billboards.
The "N" scale signs can be used for forced perspective on structures.
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Continued after the search for a cold Diet Pepsi.
The treasure hunting is over for now but I still have several boxes of stash inside the Ovalix area to go through.
All the stuff is now cleared off the center portion of the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142433.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142433.jpeg)
I'm going to bring the center bench work down (north - towards the camera view) within next few Saturdays. That means by the end of the week as every day is Saturday at this house.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142447.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140118142447.jpeg)
I'll use the center isle plywood bench work to build all the modules for the third level. Most of the modules will be 2 X 8 feet and will be bolted together.
A lot of great treasures there Tom.
First train set....sold my AF's when I was 12 to the neighbors. Twenty or so years later, bought them back for my boys AT THE PRICE I SOLD THEM!!!
Now if I could recover those baseball and 1960 AFL (first season) cards...
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 14, 2018, 05:12:27 PM
A lot of great treasures there Tom.
Curt,
It was fun going through all the boxes. Like Forrest Gump said, "You never know what you are going to get(find)."
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on January 15, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
First train set....sold my AF's when I was 12 to the neighbors. Twenty or so years later, bought them back for my boys AT THE PRICE I SOLD THEM!!!
Now if I could recover those baseball and 1960 AFL (first season) cards...
Larry,
You were very fortunate to be able to buy back the original train set. I sold my ATSF passenger set and still regret it to this day.
Now go find those 1960 AFL cards and all the baseball cards.
Tom ;D
This morning I extended the center isle bench work another 8 feet. I added the 14 gauge buss wire also. The wire bundle is the length for the rest of the center isle buss line.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162547.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162547.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162605.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162605.jpeg)
More in a few.
Now I'm ready to start on the bench work for the third level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162624.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162624.jpeg)
Late this morning I did some very long overdue house cleaning.
I removed all the rolling stock and locos from the West Staging Yard.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162646.jpeg)
More in a few.
I vacuumed and cleaned all the track.
The next two views are of the West Staging Yard/area looking North.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162732.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162718.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162718.jpeg)
More in a few.
I dusted all the rolling stock and locos prior to putting them back in the staging yard.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162749.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150118162749.jpeg)
Looking good Tom. The treasure hunt must have brought back some great memories of picking up all of those boxed goodies. So now that the benchwork is cleared, I figure you'll be done with the 3rd level by the weekend? ;D
Tom
I didn't realize how much railroad space the third level was going to give you until you posted the overall picture. This is going to be great - it looks like it will double the number of wonderful scenes. Do you have a layout map posted that I missed? Great modeling my friend - as always - I will be following along.
Tom
Another question for you - Is the center peninsula going to eventually be part of the layout or is it temporary?
Quote from: MAP on January 16, 2018, 06:04:41 AM
Looking good Tom. The treasure hunt must have brought back some great memories of picking up all of those boxed goodies. So now that the benchwork is cleared, I figure you'll be done with the 3rd level by the weekend? ;D
Mark,
Thanks for stopping by. The treasure hunting is over for now. I'll get inside the Ovalix later and see what I have there.
Won't get the third level done by this weekend but I did start on it. Pictures later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on January 16, 2018, 10:13:04 AM
Tom
I didn't realize how much railroad space the third level was going to give you until you posted the overall picture. This is going to be great - it looks like it will double the number of wonderful scenes. Do you have a layout map posted that I missed? Great modeling my friend - as always - I will be following along.
John,
The third level will give me double the second level. I do have a layout diagram Greg DeMayo did for me and it is pretty close to what the second level is to date. I did change the south end a little and there is no crossover as shown.
Thank you my friend for the generous compliment on the layout work.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155132.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155132.jpeg)Here is what the second level north end will look like. I will make one or two changes though.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155152.jpeg)
Quote from: S&S RR on January 16, 2018, 10:15:33 AM
Tom
Another question for you - Is the center peninsula going to eventually be part of the layout or is it temporary?
John,
The second level center portion is the town of Tahope (Seminole Indian for Fort). This will be another fun area to model.
I'm using the center portion to build the third level bench work.
Tom ;D
Today I started the bench work for the third level.
Each section will be 2 X 8 feet. Instead of using 1 X 4's I'm using 1 X 3's. This will lighten the load on the brackets.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118153846.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118153846.jpeg)
I cut one cross member and labeled it the Master. This way all the braces will have the holes drilled in the same location for each.
I drilled holes for the buss line, turnout wires, structure lights and a few extra for the unknown.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154745.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154745.jpeg)
More in a few.
Using the master as a guide, I can drill holes in five at a time.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118153908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118153908.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154634.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154651.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154651.jpeg)
I need to take an hour of so for some !:! stuff. I'll grab an ice cold Diet Pepsi while I'm at it.
When building the box, I use a carpenter's square. The square helps to ensure you get the vertical cross braces square.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154705.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154718.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154718.jpeg)
More in a few.
Okay, box one is done.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154732.jpeg)
I then placed two 1 X 3's on the wall brackets.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154800.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
I squared the brackets to the wall and used Quick Grips to hold them. I used dry wall screws to secure the wood to the brackets.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154813.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154813.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118163630.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118163630.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then did a test fit of the box on the brackets.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154829.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154844.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154844.jpeg)
More in a few.
RUT ROH!
I didn't see this coming. This is what I saw on the level bubble when the level was place on the third level and second level edges.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154858.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154858.jpeg)
Time to investigate.
I discovered the wall bracket mount was interfering with the back side of the rear 1X3.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154913.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154913.jpeg)
Easy fix here. I marked on the top of the plywood where the bracket mount butted against the wood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154928.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154928.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used a Sabre saw and removed the offending piece of 1X3.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155457.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155457.jpeg)
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Now the box fits flush to the wall. And, more importantly - LEVEL.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155047.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155047.jpeg)
More in a few.
Both upper and lower edges are aligned to each other.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154943.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118154943.jpeg)
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AT this time the box ins't screw to the bottom 1X3's. I need to do one more task prior to securing the box to the wall and bottom boards.
Once the final detail is finished, I'll make any necessary adjustments to get it level. However, it is pretty well leveled all things considering.
Horizontal level -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155032.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155032.jpeg)
Verical level -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155019.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118155019.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160118163649.jpeg)
ACL 1504,
Excellent pictorial sir! Very interesting with lots of construction detail learning. I'm all level, tape measure, and eyes. Thanx Thom...
Excellent carpentry skills Tom.
Tom
The track plan and all the overall photographs made a lot of light bulbs go off for me - you have a lot of square feet to have fun building in the future. It's amazing because you have already completed a lot of railroad. Having the center peninsula serve as a temporary workbench is some real nice Engineering. Thanks again for sharing your build with us - I come away with new ideas for my layout every time I visit.
Tom,
This may be late for you, but for others still building, do an internet search on Kreg Jigs.
These amazing little devices take a lot of the squaring problems out of assembling true wood working corners. I know Lowe's stocks them as do better, high end wood working stores.
Question, Tom...
For box number 2, could you shorten the cross members by 3/4", but keep the same width for the plywood. Then you would only need to notch the plywood to clear the brackets, keeping the strength of a continuous 1 x 3 rear frame member?
Quote from: tct855 on January 16, 2018, 06:51:14 PM
ACL 1504,
Excellent pictorial sir! Very interesting with lots of construction detail learning. I'm all level, tape measure, and eyes. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you, appreciate you checking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on January 16, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
Tom
The track plan and all the overall photographs made a lot of light bulbs go off for me - you have a lot of square feet to have fun building in the future. It's amazing because you have already completed a lot of railroad. Having the center peninsula serve as a temporary workbench is some real nice Engineering. Thanks again for sharing your build with us - I come away with new ideas for my layout every time I visit.
John,
What I like about this track plan is that I have room to run trains, do plenty of switching for operations and lots of room for structures.
The center isle will give me many switching areas and the third level center isle will be the passenger trains, post office and REA structures.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on January 16, 2018, 09:48:08 PM
Tom,
This may be late for you, but for others still building, do an internet search on Kreg Jigs.
These amazing little devices take a lot of the squaring problems out of assembling true wood working corners. I know Lowe's stocks them as do better, high end wood working stores.
Chip,
The Kreg jigs are great little additions to any workshop, especially wood working shops. I did consider them in years past but didn't want to spend the money for them on bench work.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Rollin on January 16, 2018, 10:18:32 PM
Question, Tom...
For box number 2, could you shorten the cross members by 3/4", but keep the same width for the plywood. Then you would only need to notch the plywood to clear the brackets, keeping the strength of a continuous 1 x 3 rear frame member?
Rollin,
You and I are on the same page here. I was gong to fix the problem the way you suggested but was to lazy after building the box.
What you suggested is the very thing I planned to do on the rest of the boxes. The wall brackets are 3/4" thick so the 3/4" over hang won't be an issue. And the plywood wouldn't need to be notched.
I'll show what this will look like on the next box build.
Tom ;D
Wow! Lots and lots of progress being made on the Atlantic and Southern. :o I'd better wrap up the Radio Station soon. Looks like it'll have a wonderful home. :D
The pictures are great but the layout is even better when viewed in person. ;)
Good stuff...when Tom gets rolling, it's fun to watch.
John
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 17, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
Wow! Lots and lots of progress being made on the Atlantic and Southern. :o I'd better wrap up the Radio Station soon. Looks like it'll have a wonderful home. :D
The pictures are great but the layout is even better when viewed in person. ;)
Bob,
It has certainly been a progress filled week. Take your time on the Radio Station. I won't need it anytime soon.
Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on January 17, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Good stuff...when Tom gets rolling, it's fun to watch.
John
John,
Thank you for checking in. At times I wish I had two more of me.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 17, 2018, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on January 17, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
Wow! Lots and lots of progress being made on the Atlantic and Southern. :o I'd better wrap up the Radio Station soon. Looks like it'll have a wonderful home. :D
The pictures are great but the layout is even better when viewed in person. ;)
Bob,
It has certainly been a progress filled week. Take your time on the Radio Station. I won't need it anytime soon.
Thank you for the very kind compliment on the layout, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
You'll probably be getting it soon anyway. ;) I'm nearly finished. I'm working on the lighting. Once that's finished it's just the large WKLO sign that spans the two buildings (three roofs) and I'll be done and can move on to the build challenge. I'd have been done a long time ago but this working for a living slows me down a bit. ::)
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 17, 2018, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Cuse on January 17, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Good stuff...when Tom gets rolling, it's fun to watch.
John
John,
Thank you for checking in. At times I wish I had two more of me.
Tom ;D
If you start eating the fried chicken & fries at Smoky Bones.....there will be two more of you! ;D ;D ;D
You are really cranking out some excellent work here Tom. Thanks, as usual, for all of your photos and explanations.....very helpful.
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 18, 2018, 09:09:06 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 17, 2018, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Cuse on January 17, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Good stuff...when Tom gets rolling, it's fun to watch.
John
John,
Thank you for checking in. At times I wish I had two more of me.
Tom ;D
If you start eating the fried chicken & fries at Smoky Bones.....there will be two more of you! ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Funny man, those aren't the two I'm looking for or wish I had.
Tom ;D
A few months ago I purchased some LEDs from Slim and promptly misplaced them. I knew if I ordered more, I'd find the missing lot of LEDs and other goodies.
I placed a reorder with Slim and yep, a week later I found the old lot. I told Slim to go ahead and fill the second order as I would then have twice as many to loose.
However, this time I put them where I can easily find them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180118165902.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180118165902.jpeg)
Here is a look at some Raymo vehicles I'm saving to the layout later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180118165916.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180118165916.jpeg)
Quote from: MAP on January 18, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
You are really cranking out some excellent work here Tom. Thanks, as usual, for all of your photos and explanations.....very helpful.
Mark,
I'm glad you are enjoying the build thread. I get on a roll once in a while and find it hard to stop.
You are welcome also.
Tom ;D
I hate organized people! :-) :-)
dave
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 18, 2018, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 18, 2018, 09:09:06 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 17, 2018, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Cuse on January 17, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Good stuff...when Tom gets rolling, it's fun to watch.
John
John,
Thank you for checking in. At times I wish I had two more of me.
Tom ;D
If you start eating the fried chicken & fries at Smoky Bones.....there will be two more of you! ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Funny man, those aren't the two I'm looking for or wish I had.
Tom ;D
I try..... ;)
I am glad I am not the only person that orders things that I already have and didn't remember. I do that all the time. Must be an age issue.
Quote from: sdrees on January 19, 2018, 11:45:31 AM
I am glad I am not the only person that orders things that I already have and didn't remember. I do that all the time. Must be an age issue.
Steve,
I think it is an effort by model railroad hobby suppliers to get more sales! We all have this issue and age has nothing, well maybe a little, to do with it. I think that once you get immersed in this hobby, you have purchased a ton of stuff and your (our ) find it skills are poor. We all should take lessons from the library. Look at this way, you go into a library, go to the dewey decimal card system, and voila, you find what you need. Perhaps, we could develop a railroad Dewey decimal system and life would be a lot simpler. Well, maybe. Tom and many other's of us would need a building as big as a library just to store all the stuff we have, OH ME, are we in trouble!!! Don't let your, mine or Tom's wife know about this idea. i'm in enough trouble as it is!!!
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: sdrees on January 19, 2018, 11:45:31 AM
I am glad I am not the only person that orders things that I already have and didn't remember. I do that all the time. Must be an age issue.
Steve,
Listen brother, this is my story and I'm sticking to it. It is just another Senior Moment which comes all to often these days.
However, I think I have most of my mental faculties although my babe would often disagree.
Heck, what do I know, I think everyday is Saturday! ???
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on January 19, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: sdrees on January 19, 2018, 11:45:31 AM
I am glad I am not the only person that orders things that I already have and didn't remember. I do that all the time. Must be an age issue.
Steve,
I think it is an effort by model railroad hobby suppliers to get more sales! We all have this issue and age has nothing, well maybe a little, to do with it. I think that once you get immersed in this hobby, you have purchased a ton of stuff and your (our ) find it skills are poor. We all should take lessons from the library. Look at this way, you go into a library, go to the dewey decimal card system, and voila, you find what you need. Perhaps, we could develop a railroad Dewey decimal system and life would be a lot simpler. Well, maybe. Tom and many other's of us would need a building as big as a library just to store all the stuff we have, OH ME, are we in trouble!!! Don't let your, mine or Tom's wife know about this idea. i'm in enough trouble as it is!!!
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
All I can say is thank the Good Lord my Babe doesn't read the forum. The railroad Dewey System is called youth which I lost many a year ago.
Age only gets us wisdom and not a better memory. Old age can't buy youth just like money can't buy poverty.
Tom ;D
If I had to develop a railroad Dewey System, and use it religiously, I wouldn't get any modeling done. So, lets leave it as it is, and we will leave the spouses in the dark, and just keep it as a Senior Moment.
Quote from: sdrees on January 19, 2018, 05:04:17 PM
If I had to develop a railroad Dewey System, and use it religiously, I wouldn't get any modeling done. So, lets leave it as it is, and we will leave the spouses in the dark, and just keep it as a Senior Moment.
Steve,
Agreed, a Senior Moment!
Tom ;D
I'm satisfied with how the bench work fits on the third level.
That said, my main focus for the next couple of weeks is to get LED's in the many structures on the second level.
I'm going to dedicate a few days to just making goose neck lamps. I'll need 15 goose neck lamps and 10 utility poles with LEDs and about 15 other regular LEDs for interior and loading dock lights.
I'm also actively working on thread other threads.
More Diet Pepsi please.
Tom ;D
Mr. Tom, The 3rd level is on it's way. When Kris saw the pictures she said I really need to get moving on some trees for Tom for the new level!!. I told her she had plenty of time because you had a lot to do. Her reply to me was "well Tom moves a little faster than you do". Thanks Tom,..... I guess.
Bill
Hey Bill.....Tom builds the layout at Greg Speed and Bill runs the trains at Geezer speed.....except yesterday, he did about half a loop at "almost" Greg Speed.....Tom & I almost fainted. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on January 21, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
Mr. Tom, The 3rd level is on it's way. When Kris saw the pictures she said I really need to get moving on some trees for Tom for the new level!!. I told her she had plenty of time because you had a lot to do. Her reply to me was "well Tom moves a little faster than you do". Thanks Tom,..... I guess.
Bill
Bill,
Appreciate you taking the time to check in on the thread. Kris needn't be in any hurry to finish any of the trees. I won't need any for at least a minimum of six+ months.
I do move very fast at times and at others, I'm just the the Tortoise in the race, slow and slower.
Tom ;D
Very impressive Mr. Langford....
Quote from: deemery on January 19, 2018, 01:00:43 AM
I hate organized people! :-) :-)
dave
Dave,
Didn't mean to leave you out, just missed your post. I'm definitely not organized but I give the appearance that I am.
Smoking mirrors and all that.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on January 23, 2018, 02:44:24 PM
Very impressive Mr. Langford....
Thank you Mr. Donato. ???
Tom ;D
I've been participating in Raymo's build challenge.
I finished KC's Workshop Utility Shed. I painted it white with green trim the official colors of the Atlantic and Southern RR.
Here are a few photos of the build.
I may place it here in the piney woods just south of the water tank and on the opposite side of the track from the station.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290118160109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290118160109.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290118160122.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290118160122.jpeg)
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It looks good there Tom.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 30, 2018, 06:55:46 PM
It looks good there Tom.
Curt,
I do too but will let it be for a few weeks to make sure it will look good then as well.
Tom ;D
Today,
I finally got around to painting the underside of third level bench work.
I'm doing this so I'll get a little more ambient light from the LEDs reflecting off the white.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010218165854.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010218165854.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010218164055.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010218164055.jpeg)
What???
More Light???
Quote from: tct855 on February 01, 2018, 05:20:39 PM
More Light???
Put your eyes back Catman, you read it correctly. Ya wanna borra ma shades? 8)
Tom ;D
I like the shed location as well Tom. Good idea to let it sit for a spell before planting it. Good idea to paint the underside of the benchwork. It gives it a finished look. Carry on!
Uncle Tommy,
Looking Good! Amazing how much you've been able to build. I suspect that someone's been drinking ALOT of Diet Pepsi lately!
Cousin Brucie
;D ;D ;D
Glad to see you back Brucie..... 8)
Quote from: MAP on February 02, 2018, 05:50:59 AM
I like the shed location as well Tom. Good idea to let it sit for a spell before planting it. Good idea to paint the underside of the benchwork. It gives it a finished look. Carry on!
Mark,
I'm almost convinced the small utility shed will work in this location. I'm off to carry on.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 02, 2018, 11:19:35 PM
Uncle Tommy,
Looking Good! Amazing how much you've been able to build. I suspect that someone's been drinking ALOT of Diet Pepsi lately!
Cousin Brucie
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Wow, great to hear from you. I have wondered where and what you've been doing. Hope all has been well with you these past two years.
Yes, I've been quite busy on the layout. I had an NMRA open house in August and it was a lot of fun.
I've been through a few gallons of my favorite libation in the Diet Pepsi as well.
Welcome to the forum my friend, a very big welcome.
Tom ;D
Tom
Wow - you are moving right along these days. Great idea painting the underside of the third level while it was still down where it was easier to get at it - and that's going to help with the lighting down below. It sure looks like you have done this before. ;) ;D Fantastic work my friend.
Between starting a new job two years back and a bunch of health issues I haven't been doing much model railroading. Just collecting kits it seems. But things are beginning to happen again as I recently been having lots of inspiration for new RR projects. Strange how that sort of works.
Of course I still consume too much Diet Pepsi. Some things don't change. Even my sponsor at Diet Pepsi Anonymous didn't know anyone could drink that much of the sauce....
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 03, 2018, 09:26:25 AM
Glad to see you back Brucie..... 8)
Thanks! Good to be back!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on February 03, 2018, 04:29:48 PM
Tom
Wow - you are moving right along these days. Great idea painting the underside of the third level while it was still down where it was easier to get at it - and that's going to help with the lighting down below. It sure looks like you have done this before. ;) ;D Fantastic work my friend.
John,
Thank you, appreciate the compliment. I'm anxious to get going on the third level but want to finish three other projects so my plate is clean when I start.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 04, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
Between starting a new job two years back and a bunch of health issues I haven't been doing much model railroading. Just collecting kits it seems. But things are beginning to happen again as I recently been having lots of inspiration for new RR projects. Strange how that sort of works.
Of course I still consume too much Diet Pepsi. Some things don't change. Even my sponsor at Diet Pepsi Anonymous didn't know anyone could drink that much of the sauce....
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
As DeMayo said below it is great to have you back.
I do understand medical issues interfering with train time. 2017 is a year I'll not likely forget. I had five surgeries, three of which were Prostate Cancer related. I'm fine and no chemo or radiation was required. Out of 12 months I was laid up for four of them.
I'm very happy things are looking up for you as well.
Diet Pepsi keeps me sane. I don't drink any alcohol stuff so I l survive on water and diet pepsi.
Tom ;D
Yesterday morning, the A&S RR Ticket Agent, Bill Eaton, AKA: The Judge, had a serious conversation with the A&S RR Station Master, ACL1504.
He stated simply the A&S RR was not getting any new revenue if the Ovalix bench work wasn't finished in a timely matter. So the Station Master changed clothes and started work finishing the Ovalix bench work.
Actually the work was on the third level bench work that goes around the top level of the Ovalix.
During the work session, PRR - Curt Webb, showed up and was immediately put to work as the man in charge of passing the tools back and forth to the worker, me, inside the Ovalix.
Yes, the Judge also assisted. Thank you Judge and PRR for your assistance.
I started on the north and north west corner of the Ovalix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131226.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131226.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131240.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131240.jpeg)
At this time we took a break and Greg DeMayo showed up. We all then went to the local BBQ joint to do some serious BSing.
More in a few.
This morning I finished the top level bench work around the Ovalix.
This is the West area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131254.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131254.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131309.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131309.jpeg)
More in a few.
South and Southwest area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131326.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131326.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131344.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131344.jpeg)
More in a few.
Southwest and South area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131400.jpeg)
East and front of the Ovalix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131413.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131413.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131429.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131429.jpeg)
Time for a cold Diet Pepsi. Be back in a few more.
As you can see, I made sure the entire third level around the Ovalix was level. I don't want any surprises later when the trains are pulling in new revenue. 8)
I've mentioned this in the past but I want to give another "shout out" to Greg Demayo, a member in good standing of the SBG (Saturday Butty Group). Greg designed the Ovalix on CAD and printed it for me to follow in constructing the Ovalix.
It truly is an engineering marvel, even in HO scale.
Ten loops with 26 feet of track per loop making the Ovalix track length 260 feet. And, a constant 1 degree incline from bottom to top.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131450.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131450.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131514.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131514.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131530.jpeg)
Hi Tom:
Looks just great.
Karl
My original plan was to lay the track directly on the third level plywood. I decided to use cork roadbed on the third level. This meant I needed to adjust the last 14 feet of the Ovalix incline.
To do this I unscrewed the Ovalix bench work and slipped a 1/16" piece of cardboard on top of each support column. I added one 1/16" piece for every two columns. I then added two 1/16" pieces for the next two columns. Every two columns I increased the 1/16 cardboard until I had 1/4" at the very top of the Ovalix. This is the thickness of the cork roadbed.
The track now has a smooth transition from the Ovalix to the third level plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131544.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131544.jpeg)
In the next photo, do you see the two holes in the 1X4 cross brace? Do you also see the feeder wires running through the holes?
No? Well, that's because yours truly forgot to run the feeder wires through the holes PRIOR to securing the third level plywood. :'( :'(
I'm not about to remove the plywood to run the wire. So, I guess I'll play the Ovalix monkey and hand feed the wire through cross braces a little at a time.
The feeder wires need to be pulled around the outside of the Ovalix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131559.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180218131559.jpeg)
Quote from: postalkarl on February 18, 2018, 01:50:32 PM
Hi Tom:
Looks just great.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks, much appreciated my friend.
Tom ;D
Nice job Tom. Forgetting the wiring makes you seem like the rest of us mere MRR modelers.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 18, 2018, 02:18:11 PM
Nice job Tom. Forgetting the wiring makes you seem like the rest of us mere MRR modelers.
Curt,
Again, appreciate your help. I'll just call it a senior moment instead of CRS, Can't Remember Snit. At least I don't MUS, Make Up Snit!
Tom ;D
You are most welcome Tom. I've enjoyed the journey.....more interesting stuff coming for the third level..... ;)
Tom,
Not that I don't enjoy watching the ovaliz increase in height, but I'm really looking forward to the top shelf of the A&S.
Yo Tom,
Have you posted a video of a train running thru the Ovalix? I would love to see that in action!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
You are most welcome Tom. I've enjoyed the journey.....more interesting stuff coming for the third level..... ;)
Greg,
The third level is going to be fun. Trying to get the track in where it works best for passenger trains, etc.
The neat part is that the third level is like building a new layout without having to remove the second level and start over, something we all know I used to do on a regular basis.
Tom 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 19, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
You are most welcome Tom. I've enjoyed the journey.....more interesting stuff coming for the third level..... ;)
Greg,
The third level is going to be fun. Trying to get the track in where it works best for passenger trains, etc.
The neat part is that the third level is like building a new layout without having to remove the second level and start over, something we all know I used to do on a regular basis.
Tom 8)
Oh boy.....a new adventure in model railroading..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 19, 2018, 08:29:30 AM
Tom,
Not that I don't enjoy watching the ovaliz increase in height, but I'm really looking forward to the top shelf of the A&S.
Jerry,
The Ovalix is at it's highest now. I'm also looking forward to the third level fun and games.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 19, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 19, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
You are most welcome Tom. I've enjoyed the journey.....more interesting stuff coming for the third level..... ;)
Greg,
The third level is going to be fun. Trying to get the track in where it works best for passenger trains, etc.
The neat part is that the third level is like building a new layout without having to remove the second level and start over, something we all know I used to do on a regular basis.
Tom 8)
Oh boy.....a new adventure in model railroading..... ;D ;D ;D
One word, YEPPER! Or is that three words. Now it's up to eight, oh, this could go on forever. ::)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on February 19, 2018, 10:34:45 AM
Yo Tom,
Have you posted a video of a train running thru the Ovalix? I would love to see that in action!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Not the full Ovalix but it sounds like a good idea. Give me a few weeks.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 19, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 19, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 19, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
You are most welcome Tom. I've enjoyed the journey.....more interesting stuff coming for the third level..... ;)
Greg,
The third level is going to be fun. Trying to get the track in where it works best for passenger trains, etc.
The neat part is that the third level is like building a new layout without having to remove the second level and start over, something we all know I used to do on a regular basis.
Tom 8)
Oh boy.....a new adventure in model railroading..... ;D ;D ;D
One word, YEPPER! Or is that three words. Now it's up to eight, oh, this could go on forever. ::)
Tom ;D
Don't know.....this ends now..... ;)
I'm getting all the necessary stuff together to start the third level.
I have 50+ Peco turnouts to start with -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190218145415.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190218145415.jpeg)
And 360+ feet of Code 83 ME flex track -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190218145430.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190218145430.jpeg)
Tom,
Sweet, Can't wait to see the progress on level three. Knowing that your posts lag behind your actual build, you are probably half way around the room by now! Looking forward to see this all tie together. Should be awesome like everything else you do. Keep up the great work my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Looking good Tom! That's some stash of infrastructure supplies. I hope to come visit soon.
John
Tom,
I guess that's enough track for a start, aren't you afraid you might run out?
Ohhh.....I have a feeling we're going to be running trains on the third level before too long. Question - will safety helmets with face shields be required when Greg is running a train on the third level? :P
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 20, 2018, 08:22:51 AM
Ohhh.....I have a feeling we're going to be running trains on the third level before too long. Question - will safety helmets with face shields be required when Greg is running a train on the third level? :P
Wait a minute Bob.....I haven't sent trains flying off the track since all the fun I used to have with the old Lionel trains when I was a kid.....and we all know that was a loooooong time ago. ;D ;D ;D
P.S. - I'll provide the hard hats. ;)
And Kevlar vests so the train doesn't hit us like a bullet?
After doing that, may not be any plywood left in central Fla for a few days. Outstanding work. Extreme precision in planning and execution, Tom.
Quote from: Erieman on February 19, 2018, 10:33:58 PM
Tom,
Sweet, Can't wait to see the progress on level three. Knowing that your posts lag behind your actual build, you are probably half way around the room by now! Looking forward to see this all tie together. Should be awesome like everything else you do. Keep up the great work my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thanks for stopping by. I have a couple small projects going and need to finish them. Ah, heck they just multiply and never seem to stop coming. Take a deep breath Tom, all will go as planned. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on February 20, 2018, 06:46:25 AM
Looking good Tom! That's some stash of infrastructure supplies. I hope to come visit soon.
John
John,
Appreciate you stopping by and checking in. I need more stash actually. But a little at a time.
Come anytime you are in the area. I should have something for you by the end of next week. :P
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 20, 2018, 07:32:29 AM
Tom,
I guess that's enough track for a start, aren't you afraid you might run out?
Jerry,
For a start yes, I'll need another 10+ bundles at minimum. I don't want to run out when track laying.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 20, 2018, 08:22:51 AM
Ohhh.....I have a feeling we're going to be running trains on the third level before too long. Question - will safety helmets with face shields be required when Greg is running a train on the third level? :P
Bob,
We are definitely going to need to keep our friend on a short leash. I've learned to keep out of the way when Gregory is at the throttle. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 20, 2018, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 20, 2018, 08:22:51 AM
Ohhh.....I have a feeling we're going to be running trains on the third level before too long. Question - will safety helmets with face shields be required when Greg is running a train on the third level? :P
Wait a minute Bob.....I haven't sent trains flying off the track since all the fun I used to have with the old Lionel trains when I was a kid.....and we all know that was a loooooong time ago. ;D ;D ;D
P.S. - I'll provide the hard hats. ;)
Well sir, there is always that first and only time. Not to worry though, The Judge and I have run a few off the no bridge area and survived.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 20, 2018, 10:14:54 AM
And Kevlar vests so the train doesn't hit us like a bullet?
Curt,
Don't give Greg any ideas. He may show up one day with a bullet train. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on February 20, 2018, 01:32:24 PM
After doing that, may not be any plywood left in central Fla for a few days. Outstanding work. Extreme precision in planning and execution, Tom.
You know, I just realized I need more plywood.
Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout work. It is going to be fun.
Tom ;D
I need to add scenery around the rear of the lubritorium prior to installing the bench work in this area.
Here is the area I'll be working on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131413.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131413.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132129.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132129.jpeg)
More in a few.
The bench work over this area will start with the 10 ft. 1X4. It appears a little cupped on the far end but will be straightened when screwed to the 2X2.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131443.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131443.jpeg)
This is the same distance from the edge as the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132707.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg)
More in a few.
I gathered all the materials I'll need to start the scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131551.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131551.jpeg)
I spread some white glue on the area and applied the first/base coat of scenery material.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131607.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131607.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
While the scenery was drying, I installed LEDs in the rear lubritorium/office area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131626.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131626.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131639.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131639.jpeg)
I drilled a hole in the corner and inserted a piece of brass tubing. The wires will be fed through the tubing to under the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131717.jpeg)
The far wall in the next photo won't been seen as an interior wall will cover the view.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131700.jpeg)
Are you using resistors on your LEDs, or a current-limiting device?
James,
I'm using current limiters for the LEDs. I got them from Slim. Thanks for stopping by.
www.microlumina.com (http://www.microlumina.com)
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 20, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 20, 2018, 10:14:54 AM
And Kevlar vests so the train doesn't hit us like a bullet?
Curt,
Don't give Greg any ideas. He may show up one day with a bullet train. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Sounds like a plan.....I'll start looking around for one.....wholesale only. ;D ;D ;)
Hi Tom:
Beautiful work as always. I always enjoy photo of your layout.
Karl
Good Afternoon Tom,
Just wondering what the height of the third level ? I probably missed this information. Really looking forward to seeing the third level all around the room. That means you might complete the middle aisle. Level two, middle island will probably be the last portion to get scenery because that is your working, storage area to put all the stuff you are installing. Really looking for some of those pieces to be installed. Keep up the great work, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Tom, how do you support the upper levels? Do you use commercial shelf brackets?
dave
Quote from: postalkarl on February 24, 2018, 01:20:10 PM
Hi Tom:
Beautiful work as always. I always enjoy photo of your layout.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you, much appreciated. BTW, your CD will be mailed in the morning.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on February 24, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
Good Afternoon Tom,
Just wondering what the height of the third level ? I probably missed this information. Really looking forward to seeing the third level all around the room. That means you might complete the middle aisle. Level two, middle island will probably be the last portion to get scenery because that is your working, storage area to put all the stuff you are installing. Really looking for some of those pieces to be installed. Keep up the great work, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The height of the third level from floor to top of rail will be 55 1/2". Easy eye level. The third level isle will be the last section.
I appreciate you checking in on the build.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 25, 2018, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: Erieman on February 24, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
Good Afternoon Tom,
Just wondering what the height of the third level ? I probably missed this information. Really looking forward to seeing the third level all around the room. That means you might complete the middle aisle. Level two, middle island will probably be the last portion to get scenery because that is your working, storage area to put all the stuff you are installing. Really looking for some of those pieces to be installed. Keep up the great work, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The height of the third level from floor to top of rail will be 55 1/2". Easy eye level. The third level isle will be the last section.
I appreciate you checking in on the build.
Tom ;D
Especially for you Frank
Quote from: deemery on February 24, 2018, 05:02:48 PM
Tom, how do you support the upper levels? Do you use commercial shelf brackets?
dave
Dave,
The third level is supported by wall tracks and 20" shelf brackets.
I got them from Lowe's. I cut the wall tracks to fit my needs.
You can see the wall tracks in the next photo and the shelf starting on page 109 of this build. The wall tracks are bolted to the wall through the drywall and I used tapcons to secure them to the wall.
Thanks for following along.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175328.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180717175328.jpeg)
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build-thread-continued/1620/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build-thread-continued/1620/)
Quote from: sdrees on February 25, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 25, 2018, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: Erieman on February 24, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
Good Afternoon Tom,
Just wondering what the height of the third level ? I probably missed this information. Really looking forward to seeing the third level all around the room. That means you might complete the middle aisle. Level two, middle island will probably be the last portion to get scenery because that is your working, storage area to put all the stuff you are installing. Really looking for some of those pieces to be installed. Keep up the great work, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The height of the third level from floor to top of rail will be 55 1/2". Easy eye level. The third level isle will be the last section.
I appreciate you checking in on the build.
Tom ;D
Especially for you Frank
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks, Tom!
dave
Quote from: deemery on February 25, 2018, 03:55:11 PM
Thanks, Tom!
dave
Dave,
You are welcome. I hope the info helps in any decision making you have. Cliff Powers used this method on the Magnolia Route and I got the idea from Cliff.
Tom ;D
I started preparing for the third level over the lubritorium area. The track will come off the Ovalix and onto the third level bench work.
I needed to pull some of the scenery forward so I'm not bumping my head doing it later.
I showed the area below in a previous photo and this is the area around the lubritorium I'm referring to.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132129.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218132129.jpeg)
In the next photo you can see where I've added some basic scenery between the Ovalix and yard track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141622.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141622.jpeg)
More in a few.
I used some scale 12x12's and built a small reservoir for the two oil tanks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218142915.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218142915.jpeg)
I painted the reservoir with Polly Scale Aged Concrete and used track ballast for the bottom.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218142934.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218142934.jpeg)
More in a few.
I applied matte medium to the scenery to hold it all in place.
While the matte medium was drying, I made the support board for the area directly above the lubritorium.
I didn't have a 1x3 on hand so I used the table saw and ripped a 1x4 to (1x3), actual size is 2 1/2" in width. I also ripped a 2x4 and from the 2x2's cut them 2 1/2" long.
The 1x3 is 10 ft. long. I marked every 18" on square for the 2 x 2 x 2 1/2 blocks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140829.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140829.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140844.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140844.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140901.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140901.jpeg)
Prior to screwing the blocks in place on the 1 x 3, I placed them on the 10 ft. board and rechecked the spacing.
Using the double lines as a guide, I screwed the blocks onto the 1 x 3 with the screw head on the back side.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140916.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140916.jpeg)
Continued in a few, need a cold Diet Pepsi.
I screwed the blocks on with one screw and then checked to make sure they were perpendicular to the 10 ft. board.
I used a carpenters square for the alignment. I then added a second screw to the back of each block.
NOTE: The block is the same width as the board, it just looks wider due to the angle of the picture.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140932.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140932.jpeg)
This entire sub assembly will be screwed next to the 1 x 3 on the top rung of the Ovalix.
I made a test fit and used Quick-Grips to hold it in place to check the levels on all angles.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140949.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218140949.jpeg)
You can see I have the same set up on the south wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141004.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141004.jpeg)
More in a few.
This was pretty much a no brainer but wanted to be sure it was all on the level.
I screwed it in place and then rechecked the levels after.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141553.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141553.jpeg)
Horizontal level and vertical levels both all good.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141608.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250218141020.jpeg)
Done for this fine day.
Tom,
I'm always interested in how people construct the underlying support system for their layout. Thanks for taking the time to show us the step by step.
Great progress Tom. Looking really nice.
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 21, 2018, 01:29:07 PM
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg)
More in a few.
Ha!!! Finally figured you out Tom....That's a trick level...the bubble is "painted" on .... ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on February 26, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
Tom,
I'm always interested in how people construct the underlying support system for their layout. Thanks for taking the time to show us the step by step.
Jerry,
We all have our own way of doing things like bench work, track laying, etc, and etc. As long as the trains run smoothly we are good to go.
Thank you for the comment and for stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on February 26, 2018, 11:00:30 AM
Great progress Tom. Looking really nice.
Mark,
Thank you, much appreciated. I try to get a little done each day. Some days nothing gets done and others it balls to the wall. I guess that means "a little gets done each day", on average that is!
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on February 27, 2018, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 21, 2018, 01:29:07 PM
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131521.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-210218131536.jpeg)
More in a few.
Ha!!! Finally figured you out Tom....That's a trick level...the bubble is "painted" on .... ;D
Donato,
Darn, you caught me. Oh wait, my level might be broken and it just looks level. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
I have a Diamond Scale sanding tower but want to use it elsewhere. I purchased the Walthers Cornerstone Sanding Towers and Drying House kit.
Yepper all plastic. Fast forward and I've built the two towers and plan on using the smaller one at the lubritorium.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180650.jpeg)
I painted this tower with Floquil Weathered Black. When the paint is cured I'll paint the base Aged Concrete.
I still need to add the rope and counter weights.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180705.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180705.jpeg)
More in a few.
As I mentioned, the kit includes a plastic sand bin.
I decided to scratch build one using their plastic one as a reference.
I used HO scale 2x12's for the horizontal boards and 8x8's for the vertical support posts.
I used the Xacto razor saw and scored the boards and then soaked them in Hunterline Medium Brown A&I.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180723.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180723.jpeg)
I wanted to add N&B details and went to my stash. I found these and they are so old the plastic and paper were brittle. You know they are old as they only cost a dollar for 100, 20 to a sprue.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180737.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180737.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180751.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180751.jpeg)
I painted the N&B castings with Floquil/Polly Scale Railroad Tie Brown. While the paint was drying I added some Bragdon Powder Chalk - Burnt Sienna to the tops.
I drilled a #76 hole in the 8x8's and glued the casting over each 2x12.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg)
One corner is finished. I won't use the N&B's on the other side as it won't be seen from the isle
More in a few.
This next photo gives me a photo count of 3300 from when this build thread was started - December 21, 2013.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180821.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180821.jpeg)
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 27, 2018, 06:33:32 PM
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180751.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180751.jpeg)
I painted the N&B castings with Floquil/Polly Scale Railroad Tie Brown. While the paint was drying I added some Bragdon Powder Chalk - Burnt Sienna to the tops.
I drilled a #76 hole in the 8x8's and glued the casting over each 2x12.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg)
One corner is finished. I won't use the N&B's on the other side as it won't be seen from the isle
More in a few.
I'm going nutz....!!
Quote from: Donato on February 28, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 27, 2018, 06:33:32 PM
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I painted the N&B castings with Floquil/Polly Scale Railroad Tie Brown. While the paint was drying I added some Bragdon Powder Chalk - Burnt Sienna to the tops.
I drilled a #76 hole in the 8x8's and glued the casting over each 2x12.
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One corner is finished. I won't use the N&B's on the other side as it won't be seen from the isle
More in a few.
I'm going nutz....!!
I'd add "short drive".....but that wouldn't be nice and I know you can be armed in short order. ;D ;D ;D
They look great.
Quote from: Donato on February 28, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 27, 2018, 06:33:32 PM
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I painted the N&B castings with Floquil/Polly Scale Railroad Tie Brown. While the paint was drying I added some Bragdon Powder Chalk - Burnt Sienna to the tops.
I drilled a #76 hole in the 8x8's and glued the casting over each 2x12.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270218180807.jpeg)
One corner is finished. I won't use the N&B's on the other side as it won't be seen from the isle
More in a few.
I'm going nutz....!!
Short drive or a gimme' putt?
Quote from: Donato on February 28, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
I'm going nutz....!!
Good, I did putting them on. ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 28, 2018, 05:03:26 PM
I'd add "short drive".....but that wouldn't be nice and I know you can be armed in short order. ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
As long as you keep that in mind, all is good. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 28, 2018, 05:42:17 PM
They look great.
Curt,
Thank you, appreciate you checking in on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on February 28, 2018, 07:53:53 PM
Short drive or a gimme' putt?
Chip,
I've had both. Although all putts should be putted into the hole, no gimme's.
Tom ;D
Several days ago I finished the sand bin. Just been to busy to add to the thread.
Still working on the drying house.
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I also got a new toy.
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More in a few.
I wanted to get a mini miter saw for cutting brass. I looked at Micro Mark and Harbour Freight - both were cheap and got not so good reviews.
I remember Cuse asking about a small table saw and Jan mentioned he has a Proxxon table saw.
I did some research and found the two other saws mentioned above only had around 3000 rpm's. The Proxxon I got has around 9000 rpm and had 92% five star reviews. The other reviews were around 4-4.5 stars.
This was a little pricey at $250.00 but well worth the purchase.
I got this one to mass cut brass tubing to make my street lamp posts.
It has a two inch blade - really a four inch blade as it is two inches from the center.
Here you can see the blade guard. The second photo shows the brass cutting blade with the guard raised.
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More in a few.
He gets everything!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpAizXx4tdI
This saw has a vice to clamp your material to be cut into place.
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It has an adjustable stop so one can mass cut the material at the same length.
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More in a few.
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In less than 90 minutes, I cut enough brass tubing to make 130 street lamp posts.
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This afternoon, I put together 7.
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Can't believe that guy spent all that money to make a bunch of quick cheap parts. Everyone knows one can simply overpay and have all the parts you want delivered from china eventually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGD69Q9rz3M
Nice looking saw.
Tom
I got caught up with your build thread tonight - you have really made some progress the last couple of weeks. The layout is really looking great and I always learn something every time I read your thread.
Your going to love the saw. I have the same model that I bought a couple years ago. It's done everything I have asked it to do. The vice works great to load up multiple pieces of strip wood and cut them all to exactly the same size. Oh and the lamp posts really look great. I know I won't be buying any lampposts - thanks for the great build tip.
Thanks for the update Tom , looks like I will be buying a saw soon.
Don't the little pieces of brass (or wood) go shooting out from the saw, or do they nicely drop into the "cup" on the saw?
Jeff
Quote from: tct855 on March 08, 2018, 06:42:04 PM
Can't believe that guy spent all that money to make a bunch of quick cheap parts. Everyone knows one can simply overpay and have all the parts you want delivered from china eventually.
Thom,
I got the saw for several reasons. Yes, the primary one was a quick way to cut the brass. It will be used for other projects as well. Just the satisfaction of knowing I made the lamp posts out of 90% brass and lighted them with LEDs is a great feeling. No one else did it!
However, I wanted it and I got it is the last reason.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 08, 2018, 06:50:12 PM
Nice looking saw.
Curt,
I'll add that it works perfectly as I wanted.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on March 08, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
Tom
I got caught up with your build thread tonight - you have really made some progress the last couple of weeks. The layout is really looking great and I always learn something every time I read your thread.
Your going to love the saw. I have the same model that I bought a couple years ago. It's done everything I have asked it to do. The vice works great to load up multiple pieces of strip wood and cut them all to exactly the same size. Oh and the lamp posts really look great. I know I won't be buying any lampposts - thanks for the great build tip.
John,
Yes, I've been busy but not as I could be. The new room addition and life is cutting into my train time.
Thank you for the compliment on the layout work and interest in some of my techniques.
I really like this saw and I won't be buying anymore Micro Mark power tools. Not saying they aren't good, just that Proxxon seems to be much better for mini power tools.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on March 08, 2018, 07:41:45 PM
Thanks for the update Tom , looks like I will be buying a saw soon.
Jan,
Thanks for stopping by. I really like this saw and its cutting abilities. I haven't cut any wood yet but don't expect any issues.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 08, 2018, 08:08:55 PM
Don't the little pieces of brass (or wood) go shooting out from the saw, or do they nicely drop into the "cup" on the saw?
Jeff
Jeff,
Great question and I should have mentioned this in the original post.
I found if I cut to quickly on the brass tubing, the blade "kicks" it out (meaning the cut piece) and into the room. However, when taking my time and letting the blade do the cutting, me not forcing it down but cutting slowly, the small parts do drop into the tray/cutting area.
Also, I needed to clean some of the cut tubing spurs from the pieces. I also had to do this when I hand cut the brass tubing using the aluminum miter box from Walthers.
Hope this answers your question.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 09, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 08, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
Tom
I got caught up with your build thread tonight - you have really made some progress the last couple of weeks. The layout is really looking great and I always learn something every time I read your thread.
Your going to love the saw. I have the same model that I bought a couple years ago. It's done everything I have asked it to do. The vice works great to load up multiple pieces of strip wood and cut them all to exactly the same size. Oh and the lamp posts really look great. I know I won't be buying any lampposts - thanks for the great build tip.
John,
Yes, I've been busy but not as I could be. The new room addition and life is cutting into my train time.
Thank you for the compliment on the layout work and interest in some of my techniques.
I really like this saw and I won't be buying anymore Micro Mark power tools. Not saying they aren't good, just that Proxxon seems to be much better for mini power tools.
Tom ;D
Tom
Just a follow-up on the saw - I bought mine from Micro Mark a couple years ago - they were selling Proxxon power tools at the time. I just checked their latest catalog and they have them again - the Picture says NEW! I'm not sure how the price compares to a direct buy from Proxxon. If anyone is in the market watch the model numbers and specifications. I don't see a difference from the picture and specifications.
Yeah, but for the price, why don't they assemble the lamp posts after cutting the uprights?
Quote from: S&S RR on March 09, 2018, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 09, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on March 08, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
Tom
I got caught up with your build thread tonight - you have really made some progress the last couple of weeks. The layout is really looking great and I always learn something every time I read your thread.
Your going to love the saw. I have the same model that I bought a couple years ago. It's done everything I have asked it to do. The vice works great to load up multiple pieces of strip wood and cut them all to exactly the same size. Oh and the lamp posts really look great. I know I won't be buying any lampposts - thanks for the great build tip.
John,
Yes, I've been busy but not as I could be. The new room addition and life is cutting into my train time.
Thank you for the compliment on the layout work and interest in some of my techniques.
I really like this saw and I won't be buying anymore Micro Mark power tools. Not saying they aren't good, just that Proxxon seems to be much better for mini power tools.
Tom ;D
Tom
Just a follow-up on the saw - I bought mine from Micro Mark a couple years ago - they were selling Proxxon power tools at the time. I just checked their latest catalog and they have them again - the Picture says NEW! I'm not sure how the price compares to a direct buy from Proxxon. If anyone is in the market watch the model numbers and specifications. I don't see a difference from the picture and specifications.
John,
Here's my follow up to yours. This saw was in the Micro Mark cat. for $375.00 and I got mine off Amazon Plus for $245.00. Micro Mark now has it on sale for $259.99. We have the same saw.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on March 09, 2018, 07:18:15 PM
Yeah, but for the price, why don't they assemble the lamp posts after cutting the uprights?
Chip,
Well, for the price I guess that job falls to me.
Tom ;D
I think I need to update the thread before I get to far behind on the postings.
The Walthers sanding towers also came with a plastic drying house. The drying house sits next to the sand bin. Instead of scratch building a drying house I painted the plastic one and changed the roof.
The plastic walls, no pictures, were painted with Floquil/Polly Scale Special Oxide Red. The doors and windows were painted with Floquil Weyerhauser Green.
After the paint was dry and cured, I applied a light coat of Gray A&I to the walls, doors and windows.
Normally I glue on the roof details and then add the tar. Lately I've been adding the tar to the bottom, in this case the roof vent, and then placing it on the roof.
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More in a few.
This method is easier than using a toothpick to apply the tar around the chimney, vents, etc. after they are glued to the roof.
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The roof was also plastic. I glued the plastic roof in place and added paper rolled roofing to the roof panels. I did the same with the roof vent roof.
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The yellow toggles are on/off switches for the lubritorium tracks. With the WOW sound in the locos, the noise is to much without the on/off track controls.
More in a few.
I added a dirt parking area to the north of the drying house.
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This next picture was taken just prior to the installation of the dirt parking area.
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Time for a cold Diet Pepsi. Back in a few more.
I added a two inch wide strip of pink foam to level the area with the cork. The pink foam is the base for a dirt road.
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I also added four LEDs to the larger of the two lubritorium buildings.
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I'll wire the LEDs while the scenery is drying.
More in a few.
Through the wonders of technology, we can fast forward and the dirt road and supporting scenery is in place. While the scenery was drying I wired the four LEDs.
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The buildings were replaced with the wiring and tested.
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More in a few.
I used bright white LEDs for the main building and warm lights for the supply/secondary building. I did this for no other reason other than to not have both building with bright lights.
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More in a few.
I continued the road from the lubritorium to the main road. The main road is yet to be installed. This is the dirt road Sweaty Betty's and the rural post office/country store will be located.
This next photo shows the first layer of dirt on the left and the second layer of dirt on the right.
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Here is the same dirt road with the second layer in place and matte medium applied. This road will take two days to fully dry so I can then apply a light dusting of a third layer.
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More in a few.
I also applied a light weathering to the roof of the drying house.
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The A&S RR workers were sloppy when adding sand to the sand bin. I wonder how much sand will be wasted in the further using these employees?
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I'm almost caught up but I'm done for this fine day.
Very nice Tom. I decided to follow your lead and I am putting Tichy rivets on the outer bracing of the sand container I built.
Looking. good Tom..... 8)
Lots of great stuff going on in your layout. Tell you the truth I didn't realize there were layout topics in modelersforum.
Looks neat Tom. I will continue to watch your progress. Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 13, 2018, 07:33:34 PM
Very nice Tom. I decided to follow your lead and I am putting Tichy rivets on the outer bracing of the sand container I built.
Curt,
Thank you, I appreciate the support. The rivets make all the difference in the model. Something simple like rivets bring the model to life. It's visually effective as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 13, 2018, 07:59:00 PM
Looking. good Tom..... 8)
Greg,
Thank you for the compliment. Oh, you mean the layout work! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on March 13, 2018, 09:41:19 PM
Lots of great stuff going on in your layout. Tell you the truth I didn't realize there were layout topics in modelersforum.
Lynn,
Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout. There are many wonderful layout threads going on this forum for sure.
I'm glad you found us.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on March 14, 2018, 10:51:07 AM
Looks neat Tom. I will continue to watch your progress. Jim
Jim,
Thank you and I appreciate you following along on the adventure.
Tom ;D
Today I added the first two layers of scenery between the track and the dirt road.
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While the scenery was drying I moved onto the third level area above the lubritorium. In the next photo, the 1X3 is just under 10 ft. long - 9 ft. 8.25 inches to be exact. Due to the length of the 1X3, it sags in the middle 1/16".
The level is clamped to the middle to get the 1X3 level across it's length. It will stay clamped until the cross braces are in place.
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More in a few.
Why worry about 1/16"? 1/16" here will result in the level being off 3/16" plus 20 feet from this point. I'm not willing to chance it nor do I want to come back and fix it later.
You may be tired of my level photos but trust me when I say it is extremely critical on this level for it all to be within the bubble.
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Notice the numbers 3 and 4 on the 2X2 blocks on the Ovalix 1X3 in the next photo?
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Continued in a few.
These 2X2's are for screwing the 1X3 cross braces to them as I couldn't get to the back side of the Ovalix 1X3 due to the Ovalix risers.
I have six of these blocks spaced equally between the 9ft. 8.25 inches length.
Now I'm going to back up a little and tell you I made a mistake in measuring. Even though Grandpa said measured twice and cut once I still made a mental error. It's more of a measuring error than a cutting one.
In the next photo I'll refer you to the 2X2 block in the corner. It is back screwed to the wall mounted 1X4 and side screwed to the 1X3 as shown.
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The mental measuring error is the 2X2 should be backed screwed to the wall mounted 1X4 inch to the left. Not a real big deal but one that needed attention.
The other end (north end) of the 1X3 is screwed in the correct location. This 1/4 inch mistake caused each of the six cross braces to be cut at a different length. This is why each 2X2 block has a number 1-6 marked on it.
As I cut the cross braces, I also marked each cross brace to correspond with the 2X2 blocks.
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Continued in a few.
As mentioned, each cross brace is cut a different length to fit between the 1X3's.
The line on each end represents the width of the 2X2 block. I drilled two pilot holes in the numbered end to avoid the ends splitting when screwed to the 2X2 blocks.
For your convenience, here is the photo again.
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Done for the night, more tomorrow.
"Measure twice.
Cut once.
Cuss a lot.
Head back to the lumber yard.
Measure twice.
Cut once again."
dave
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 14, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
You may be tired of my level photos
Quite the contrary. You've been showing how critical precision work is for premium operational performance.
Dave...
You forgot..." don't look into the hammer ".
See ya
Bob
Quote from: deemery on March 14, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
"Measure twice.
Cut once.
Cuss a lot.
Head back to the lumber yard.
Measure twice.
Cut once again."
dave
Dave,
Measuring was no problem, I just attached it to the wrong location on the wall board. :'( :'( :'(
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on March 15, 2018, 07:25:22 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 14, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
You may be tired of my level photos
Quite the contrary. You've been showing how critical precision work is for premium operational performance.
Larry,
Thank you, yes, it is critical and I'll have more on this later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on March 15, 2018, 11:35:54 AM
Dave...
You forgot..." don't look into the hammer ".
See ya
Bob
Bob,
Yepper, I never looked a hammer in the face that didn't hurt! :P
Tom ;D
Today I installed the cross bracing on the area above the lubritorium.
I marked on the outer side of the 1X3 the location of the end of the 1X3 brace. I installed #'s 4, 3, 5, 2, 6 and 1 in that order.
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More in a few.
The upper level is even with the lower level bench work, distance wise from the edge of the Ovalix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150318175408.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150318175408.jpeg)
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I managed to get the 1X3 9' 8.25" front board level.
However, the weight of the bench work sags just enough so as to not be center bubble as shown, lower on the left.
This is the #4 cross brace.
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In the next few days I'll show you how the problem was solved.
Tom ;D
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see it next month.
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
I don't think he has but he's always been on the level. ::)
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 16, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
I don't think he has but he's always been on the level. ::)
I don't think he leans to either side actually! ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.
Here is the one from the old, old layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)
This new one won't be as high as the old one.
More in a few.
This is a fantastic looking bridge, well done.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 15, 2018, 07:16:13 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see it next month.
Curt,
Thank you, next month will be fun for sure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
Thom,
No, I've never been a "dam" builder but I've been know to be a "damn" builder. My dad owned Slemons and Langford Construction Co. and on many occasions as a younster, I would stand around and watch the workers and ask many questions.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 16, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
I don't think he has but he's always been on the level. ::)
Bob,
I'm on the level except when my bubble is off! 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on March 16, 2018, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 16, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
I don't think he has but he's always been on the level. ::)
I don't think he leans to either side actually! ;D
Thom,
No, I'm pretty much a straight up kind of guy. I don't lean either way.
Tom ;D
Okay, stop before all the craziness get out of hand.
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Tom 8)
Quote from: Lynnb on March 17, 2018, 03:06:18 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 14, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
I scratch built one on my old, old layout and then re-engineered it into a coal dump ramp.
Here is the one from the old, old layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140717174222.jpeg)
This new one won't be as high as the old one.
More in a few.
This is a fantastic looking bridge, well done.
Lynn,
Thank you for the kind words on the bridge. It was a fun scratch building project.
Tom ;D
The main problem with bench work that is cantilevered over another section is that it needs a support of some sort. This is especiailly true of the one I have over the lubritroium area.
I also plan to have a third level over the second level. The second level is the layout section that will be down the middle and between the East and West sections of the layout.
I plan on using the method of supporting the center third level over the cantilevered area.
I got my idea from Bill Cutler of the Pennsy, Six miles West of Altoona layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318164948.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318164948.jpeg)
He has a steel rod this size supporting the upper level over his farm area.
I got a 5/16 threaded steel rod. I cut a small section out of the scenery and drilled the appropriate hole for the rod. I used a washer and nut to prevent the rod from going through the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165024.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165024.jpeg)
More in a few.
I glued and screwed a 2X2 to a 1X4 and then screwed the 1X4 to the inside of the bench work as shown in the photo below. I drilled a 5/16 hole in the 2X2 for the rod to fit in.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165041.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165041.jpeg)
By placing the nut and then the washer on the top portion of the rod, I could adjust the washer by moving the nut towards the top. For every turn of the wahser, I was able to raise the upper level brace to a level position.
The steel rod is sturdy enough and secure so the upper level is now secure, level and none moving.
Greg and the Judge were here this morning to see this and they can post their comments if desired.
More in a few.
I filled the area around the rod with scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165100.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165100.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165118.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165118.jpeg)
More in a few.
The rod appeared to really stand out but after a few days, I hardly notice it. I'll paint it a pale green later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165136.jpeg)
The cantilevered bench work is now level north, south, east and west.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165150.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170318165150.jpeg)
All is well on the A&S RR. And, as Reading Bob said, I'm on the level.
Tom ;D
It appears to be a bit more sturdy..... ;)
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 17, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
It appears to be a bit more sturdy..... ;)
Greg,
Appears?
When you did the pull ups didn't all hold up except the small level? 8)
Tom ;D
Wow...it's really coming together!
John
Quote from: Cuse on March 17, 2018, 06:10:21 PM
Wow...it's really coming together!
John
John,
Thank you, I'm moving forward on the third level now.
Tom ;D
Tom...
When you paint that ready rod green, put some palm fronds on it and call it a cell tower.
see ya
Bob
I have very sad news to report this evening.
A very close and dear friend on mine passed away this afternoon. The passing wasn't easy as she tried to hold on but the bearings were just to worn out.
As I was cutting some 1X3 cross braces, my 25 year old 10 inch table saw gave up the ghost. :'( :'( :'( :'(
A moment of silence please.
Tom :'(
Tom..
My steam powered table saw from 1954 is still out there chugging away. If it's a belt drive saw unit you should be able to replace the bearings. They don't make 'em that good any more.
see ya
Bob
Sorry for your loss Tom , 25 years , I guess you saw it coming.
Nice work on the support, sorry to hear of the saw passing :o
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
Tom...
When you paint that ready rod green, put some palm fronds on it and call it a cell tower.
see ya
Bob
Bob,
Good idea but the rod is to tall for a tree in HO scale. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2018, 06:18:33 PM
Tom..
My steam powered table saw from 1954 is still out there chugging away. If it's a belt drive saw unit you should be able to replace the bearings. They don't make 'em that good any more.
see ya
Bob
Bob,
This was just a Sears 10" table top and it served the 25 years cutting layout lumber. Got it on sale for $145.00 so no complaints from me.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on March 17, 2018, 06:57:19 PM
Sorry for your loss Tom , 25 years , I guess you saw it coming.
Jan,
Thanks, I didn't see it coming by I did hear it coming.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on March 17, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
Nice work on the support, sorry to hear of the saw passing :o
Lynn,
Thanks for the compliment on the support. The saw was old but did serve me well for 25+ years. I can't complain.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 18, 2018, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: bparrish on March 17, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
Tom...
When you paint that ready rod green, put some palm fronds on it and call it a cell tower.
see ya
Bob
How about a water tower with a thundercloud looming over the top of it? ;D
Bob,
Good idea but the rod is to tall for a tree in HO scale. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Nifty, swifty solution there Tom.
Now, about Funeral for the Deceased Table Saw...........
Jim
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: tct855 on March 16, 2018, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 16, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: tct855 on March 15, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
ACL 1504,
Were you ever a dam builder in your former life?
Thanx Thom...
I don't think he has but he's always been on the level. ::)
I don't think he leans to either side actually! ;D
Thom,
No, I'm pretty much a straight up kind of guy. I don't lean either way.
Tom ;D
I'm not touching that one.....I'll just get into more trouble. ::)
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 17, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
It appears to be a bit more sturdy..... ;)
Greg,
Appears?
When you did the pull ups didn't all hold up except the small level? 8)
Tom ;D
I've blocked that out.....it never happened. :-[
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
I have very sad news to report this evening.
A very close and dear friend on mine passed away this afternoon. The passing wasn't easy as she tried to hold on but the bearings were just to worn out.
As I was cutting some 1X3 cross braces, my 25 year old 10 inch table saw gave up the ghost. :'( :'( :'( :'(
A moment of silence please.
Tom :'(
..... :'(
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 19, 2018, 08:40:18 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
I have very sad news to report this evening.
A very close and dear friend on mine passed away this afternoon. The passing wasn't easy as she tried to hold on but the bearings were just to worn out.
As I was cutting some 1X3 cross braces, my 25 year old 10 inch table saw gave up the ghost. :'( :'( :'( :'(
A moment of silence please.
Tom :'(
..... :'(
Oh no! Say it ain't so! :(
I'll be curious to see what you replace it with. I've been threatening to buy one for years even though I have no place to store one and very little use for one at the moment. :D
I spend a bit of tome each day going through your build process, that is one massive Helix, On a couple layouts back I had a Nolix that went down at one end of the layout and all the way around the perimeter to a lower masive staging yard. Excellent work.
Quote from: Lynnb on March 19, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
I spend a bit of tome each day going through your build process, that is one massive Helix, On a couple layouts back I had a Nolix that went down at one end of the layout and all the way around the perimeter to a lower masive staging yard. Excellent work.
Lynn,Thank you for the kind words. Greg DeMayo designed the Ovalix. It started as a Helix but I stretched it by four feet and call it an Ovalix. ;D ;D ;D It works beautifully and was fun building.Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on March 18, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Nifty, swifty solution there Tom.
Now, about Funeral for the Deceased Table Saw...........
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thanks very much my friend. The saw was on it's last leg.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 19, 2018, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 17, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
It appears to be a bit more sturdy..... ;)
Greg,
Appears?
When you did the pull ups didn't all hold up except the small level? 8)
Tom ;D
I've blocked that out.....it never happened. :-[
Greg,
All is forgiven since it never happened. You are still a SBG in good standing.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 19, 2018, 12:53:29 PM
Oh no! Say it ain't so! :(
I'll be curious to see what you replace it with. I've been threatening to buy one for years even though I have no place to store one and very little use for one at the moment. :D
Bob,
Yepper, it is so my friend. The new one is one site now.
Tom ;D
My 10 inch table saw was very good to me for 25+ years. For a buck 50 I certainly got my moneys worth. It was a SEARS saw.
I was looking at other brands and they were in the high dollar range and I didn't need one for extremely fine finish work. It is amazing how many table saws got bad reviews.
I went back to Sears on line to check out their line. I found one listed as a Jobsite 10" Table Saw for $450.00. It got great reviews and had many 5 star reviews.
I went to Sears and found the saw. It was in the box on the store showroom marked down from $450.00 to $379 and again to $178.99. The box was torn and some of the white foam was showing. Yep, I snatched it right then and there.
At the register, the girl said cash or credit. I said cash! She said do you have a Sears credit card? Yes, replied I. She said if you use the Sears card, I'll give you another 10% off the $178.99. I said the card will do nicely, thank you. Apparently cash isn't as good as it used to be.
Oh, and this saw is portable. It took about two hours to assemble. The instructions were written by a person who has never used a saw. Clear and unambiguous isn't part of a technical writers thought process.
This photo was taken right after assembly. The table hasn't been leveled yet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134627.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134627.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134642.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134642.jpeg)
I didn't get a lot done this afternoon. I helped the Babe in the Rose Garden for several hours and then the rains came.
I didn't want to roll my new saw out and chance getting rained on.
I did get the back wall third level started though.
For this long piece, I went with a harder wood instead of the white pine. The front 1X3 is 9' 10 3/4". I clamped a short piece of 1X4 under the 1X3 to hold this piece in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134702.jpeg)
I did the same on the east end of the board.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134718.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134718.jpeg)
More in a few.
I checked the level of the board and no adjustments were required.
I screwed it in place and removed the Quick Grips. This front 1X3 is 24 inches from the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134733.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134746.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134746.jpeg)
Hopefully the rains will abate tomorrow and I can cut some cross 1X3's for this third level section.
More in a few.
All is level and good on the Atlantic and Southern RR. Whom ever hired this carpenter?
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134800.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-200318134800.jpeg)
Wonder if I'll be able to get my bubble level before layout construction begins? :-\
Tom,
While building this top level of your layout, do you intend to cover the next lower level from dust, drips etc, or will you simply spend time trying to vacuum the crumbs particulates. ;D Thanx Thom...
Looking good, what you going to lite the lower level with?
Tom,
I think you should also thank the builder of the shed for making the walls so plumb. Just saying.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: Erieman on March 20, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
Tom,
I think you should also thank the builder of the shed for making the walls so plumb. Just saying.
Frank / Erieman
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hi Tom:
As I've said on many occasion you have a beautiful RR. I always enjoy your photos. Keep em coming.
Karl
Not all tech writers are unclear and ambiguous.
Bob
Let me know when you are ready for a stress test on the new section..... ::)
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 20, 2018, 01:55:08 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 19, 2018, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 17, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 17, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
It appears to be a bit more sturdy..... ;)
Greg,
Appears?
When you did the pull ups didn't all hold up except the small level? 8)
Tom ;D
I've blocked that out.....it never happened. :-[
Greg,
All is forgiven since it never happened. You are still a SBG in good standing.
Tom ;D
Whewwwwwwwww.....that's a load off. ;)
Quote from: BandOGuy on March 20, 2018, 03:46:27 PM
Wonder if I'll be able to get my bubble level before layout construction begins? :-\
Chip,
You are definitely a level headed guy so I'm quite confident your bubble will be plumb when the time comes.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on March 20, 2018, 03:52:15 PM
Tom,
While building this top level of your layout, do you intend to cover the next lower level from dust, drips etc, or will you simply spend time trying to vacuum the crumbs particulates. ;D Thanx Thom...
Brother Thom,
NO, I plan to be extremely careful with the third level. So far so good. Except for these last to sections, all the third level bench work will be assembled on the center of the second level and then added to the third level.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on March 20, 2018, 04:43:42 PM
Looking good, what you going to lite the lower level with?
Lynn,
Thank you, much appreciated. I'll be going over the lighting process in the coming week. Stay tuned.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on March 20, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
Tom,
I think you should also thank the builder of the shed for making the walls so plumb. Just saying.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Although I did a decent job on the building, there are some places that are a little off. This of course threw me off on the dry wall as well. :'( :'( :'(
The layout bench work had to be adjusted as I built around the walls to get the bench work level.
There are times I thank myself for having the talent to do it all myself but then also curse myself for not hiring a contractor to do all the work.
I laid all 1,463 of the 8X8X16 cinder blocks and mixed my own mortar. I used conventional framing for the roof, no trusses. I also poured my own slab.
Thank God, I'm to old to do it again.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on March 21, 2018, 10:36:36 AM
Hi Tom:
As I've said on many occasion you have a beautiful RR. I always enjoy your photos. Keep em coming.
Karl
Karl,
You are to kind my friend, thank you. I'll have more in the coming days.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on March 21, 2018, 08:41:43 PM
Not all tech writers are unclear and ambiguous.
Bob
Bob,
Okay, you got me. However, you and your lovely wife were not included in the group I referred to. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 22, 2018, 10:34:30 AM
Let me know when you are ready for a stress test on the new section..... ::)
Greg,
NOT ON YOUR LIFE MY FRIEND! IT JUST AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 22, 2018, 10:35:30 AM
Greg,
All is forgiven since it never happened. You are still a SBG in good standing.
Tom ;D
Whewwwwwwwww.....that's a load off. ;)
You get one free pass and you already used it.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Love that Sears saw. That wheeled stand will be such an asset. I'll be envying you every time I have to drag my table saw across the garage to make room enough for me to cut longer stock.
I enjoy seeing your construction methods and how well thought out they are. Supporting the upper level of a multi-level layout is definitely more challenging than building the bench work for a single level layout.
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 20, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on March 18, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Nifty, swifty solution there Tom.
Now, about Funeral for the Deceased Table Saw...........
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thanks very much my friend. The saw was on it's last leg.
Tom ;D
Tom, hate to ask, but where did you hire the three short people to hold up the other three corners while you cut???
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 23, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
Tom,
Love that Sears saw. That wheeled stand will be such an asset. I'll be envying you every time I have to drag my table saw across the garage to make room enough for me to cut longer stock.
I enjoy seeing your construction methods and how well thought out they are. Supporting the upper level of a multi-level layout is definitely more challenging than building the bench work for a single level layout.
Jerry,
I used the saw this afternoon and LOVE it. Very quiet and the blade doesn't drift at all. I moved my old table saw back and forth, in and out for years. I finally just left it under the shed eave and covered it with a heavy tarp. Maybe this was the death nail for the saw but it was getting bad long before I left it out.
What i love about this one is the wheels and it also has a 24" adjustable table top.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Donato on March 23, 2018, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 20, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on March 18, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Nifty, swifty solution there Tom.
Now, about Funeral for the Deceased Table Saw...........
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thanks very much my friend. The saw was on it's last leg.
Tom ;D
Tom, hate to ask, but where did you hire the three short people to hold up the other three corners while you cut???
Donato,
When the other three legs went I hired three kids from the neighborhood to hold the three corners while I cut wood.
The three kids formed a union, wanted benefits and hazard pay for breathing saw dust. I fired all three and bought the new saw with two wheeled legs and two stationary legs and it loves eating saw dust. 8)
Tom ;D
I finished the south end section of the third level, framing only with no decking. I used the four foot level to check the level of the two sections. Yes, the bubble was center mass as we say at the range.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163009.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163009.jpeg)
Notice in the next photo there are no holes drilled for the buss wires? Well, I just forgot to do this little yet very important task.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163243.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163243.jpeg)
When this happens, this is what you get on the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163258.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163258.jpeg)
I want to thank my forum brother Thom, tct855, for asking how I'm going to protect the second level during third level construction. Everything was going great until that comment. It never fails and he caused My Murphy to enter the situation.
Don't call me, I'll call you. ;D ;D ;D
Are you sure you don't know Greg? 8)
More in a few.
Quote from: ACL1504
I finished the south end section of the third level, framing only with no decking. I used the four foot level to check the level of the two sections. Yes, the bubble was center mass as we say at the range.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163009.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163009.jpeg)
Notice in the next photo there are no holes drilled for the buss wires? Well, I just forgot to do this little yet very important task.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163243.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163243.jpeg)
When this happens, this is what you get on the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163258.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163258.jpeg)
I want to thank my forum brother Thom, tct855, for asking how I'm going to protect the second level during third level construction. Everything was going great until that comment. It never fails and he caused My Murphy to enter the situation.
Don't call me, I'll call you. ;D ;D ;D
Are you sure you don't know Greg? 8)
More in a few.
I object............... ::)
I also worked on installing LED lighting for the second level.
I visited Onewolf, Doug Fletcher, and his fantastic Ogden and Cache Valley Railroad. Doug used two strands of LEDs to light his second level. He also has more space between his levels than I have on the A&S. He angled his from under the fascia at a 45 degree angle.
I tried this and it gave me to much of a shadow effect probably due to my mere 18 inches between the second and third level.
One Thursday afternoon, Reading Bob stopped by and we held up one string of LEDs and it looked good but gave shadows. The following Saturday, a real one, the Judge came over and we held up two strings and placed them in the center. This made all the difference in the lighting with no shadows.
I got the LEDs from the Ebay vendor listed below.
16.4ft DC12V/24V 5M 2835/5050/3014/5630 300/600/1200LEDs Flexible Strip Light
More in a few.
The LEDs come in 16 ft. lengths. I cut them in the middle and used two strings of 8 ft..
I cut a 1.25" wide 8' length of Masonite. I used Weldwood Contact Cement and spread it on the smooth side of the Masonite.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163328.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163328.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163343.jpeg)
While the contact cement was still tacky, I pealed the paper off the back of the LEDs and pressed the strips onto the Masonite.
Sorry, forgot to take a photo of this but you'll be able to see what I did later in the thread.
More in a few.
I let the contact cement and LED strips sit for a few hours. I pulled the buss wires through the crass braces.
Later, I screwed the Masonite strips to the under side of the cross braces and centered.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163356.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163356.jpeg)
I soldered the LED wires in series and used heat shrink tubing over the solder joints.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163412.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163412.jpeg)
More in a few.
The next two photos show the oil facility and lubritorium areas without the LEDs on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163432.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163432.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163447.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163447.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time. Back in a few.
The next two photos show the same area with the LEDs on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163501.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163501.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163515.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163515.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is a look at the south area with LEDs on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163530.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163530.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163544.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163544.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here's a view of the LEDs under the third level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163559.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163559.jpeg)
More in a few. Need a break for the Babe.
I'll be adding the third level deck over this area in the next few days.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163614.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163614.jpeg)
The plywood hanging over the edge will be trimmed. This will make it the same distance from the Ovalix as the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163629.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318163629.jpeg)
When the fascia is added it will be 1/2" below the bottom edge of the 1X3 and will give a better view block from the LEDs.
More in a few.
The previous photos included the overhead lights. Here is how the second level looks with the LEDs and without the overhead lights.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318164215.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318164215.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318164229.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230318164229.jpeg)
I appreciate all those following and lurking.
Tom ;D
ACL 1504,
Love the great work you've been doing on your 2nd & 3rd level decks. I just finished my 2nd level deck and are taking a break as well. KP-out...
Welcome to the shadow Box! The controlled viewing and lighting makes your great modeling even better. I know when the lights went on it was a revelation for me.
WOW!
Tom,
The LED lighting is stunning! Yet again you have again caused me to rethink how I go about my modeling. I now wish I had used a shadowbox approach to building my modules so I could light my layout with LED's as you did.
Your photos look great. The corner where the bench work meets the ovalix seems like it could use a little more light. The contrast between the lighted area and that darker corner seems too abrupt to me.
I do have a question. I have been wondering for some time if you have thought about adding a backdrop to the ovalix behind the lubritorium? You could use a convex mirror showing the inside of the ovalix to allow the operator to see the trains while they are negotiating it.
Great looking lighting for the second level.
Those LEDs look great.
Jim
Like Jim says, Leds look great my friend... Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on March 23, 2018, 08:15:49 PM
ACL 1504,
Love the great work you've been doing on your 2nd & 3rd level decks. I just finished my 2nd level deck and are taking a break as well. KP-out...
Brother Thom,
Now I know why you are on crutches, you forgot the stairs to get down.
Here's my new tree swing.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318164925.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318164925.jpeg)
Quote from: Cuse on March 24, 2018, 05:43:02 AM
Welcome to the shadow Box! The controlled viewing and lighting makes your great modeling even better. I know when the lights went on it was a revelation for me.
John,
Thank you, I really like the look of the LED viewing. I changed it all.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on March 24, 2018, 07:27:43 AM
WOW!
Jim,
Thank you, much appreciated. I sure give a new look to the second level.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 24, 2018, 08:25:29 AM
Tom,
The LED lighting is stunning! Yet again you have again caused me to rethink how I go about my modeling. I now wish I had used a shadowbox approach to building my modules so I could light my layout with LED's as you did.
Your photos look great. The corner where the bench work meets the ovalix seems like it could use a little more light. The contrast between the lighted area and that darker corner seems too abrupt to me.
I do have a question. I have been wondering for some time if you have thought about adding a backdrop to the ovalix behind the lubritorium? You could use a convex mirror showing the inside of the ovalix to allow the operator to see the trains while they are negotiating it.
Jerry,
Much appreciate the generous compliment. However, I can't take credit for the idea. Onewolf gave me the idea after viewing his wonderful layout lighting.
You can still use LEDs on your layout. You only need to build a light weight canopy over the existing layout.
Originally I was going to use just a Helix and use the Ovalix space for more layout. I decided I wanted to have a 1% grade so I sacrificed the space. I also knew that the Ovalix wouldn't be hidden. It's just part of what you see.
I did move the south bank of LEDs 8 inches to the right, an idea I was pondering prior to your comment. You were a step ahead of me. Keep this in mind though. This layout is always in the morning and summer. Everything is in full bloom and green. The sun is up but just not to the part of the layout entering the Ovalix! 8) 8) 8) So, it is still a little early for the sun to reach that area. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I'll have new photos of that area later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 24, 2018, 10:02:23 AM
Great looking lighting for the second level.
Curt,
Thank you my friend and welcome home.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on March 24, 2018, 11:56:32 AM
Those LEDs look great.
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thank you kind sir.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on March 24, 2018, 11:59:47 AM
Like Jim says, Leds look great my friend... Thanx Thom...
Brother Thom,
I appreciate you following along and the compliment.
Thank you.
Tom ;D
I'm not sure I mentioned the color of the LEDs I'm using but they are Cool White. The Warm White were to dark and the Bright White were, er, to bright. 8) 8)
I moved the bank of LEDs on the south end 8 inches to the right. This fills the back area a little more with light.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172020.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172037.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172037.jpeg)
More in a few.
The next photo shows some of the new third level decking as it meets the Ovalix top level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172052.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172052.jpeg)
You can also see the inside of the Ovalix and the 9 loops of 1% incline. Each loop is 26 feet and raise 3.25 inches per loop.
The Ovalix is actually 10 loops but the bottom loop is behind the first 1% loop as seen in this early photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161732.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300514161732.jpeg)
Third level decking around the Ovalix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172106.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172106.jpeg)
Need a quick fix of Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
I forgot to mention that in using the LEDs on the bottom of the cross braces, I no longer have a need/desire to paint the bottom of the third level white.
I did get the plywood on the two sections, one coming off the Ovalix and the other on the south wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172121.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172121.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172135.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172135.jpeg)
More in a few.
These two sections will be screwed in place tomorrow. In preparation, I used a carpenters square and marked where the cross braces are located under the plywood.
Prior to laying the plywood in place I marked the edges of the 1X3 so the screw will be in the center of the 1X3 cross brace. By marking the plywood in the same manner, the screws will be located between the lines which represent the 1X3's below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg)
Thanks for following along on this new adventure, the third level build.
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 05:44:02 PM
These two sections will be screwed in place tomorrow. In preparation, I used a carpenters square and marked where the cross braces are located under the plywood.
Prior to laying the plywood in place I marked the edges of the 1X3 so the screw will be in the center of the 1X3 cross brace. By marking the plywood in the same manner, the screws will be located between the lines which represent the 1X3's below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg)
Thanks for following along on this new adventure, the third level build.
I'm all braced and aligned for more photos Sunday.
Tom...
I have a solution for the running thread support rod on your upper level.
Go down to a local big box store and get a spray can of clear paint. Gloss, satin or flat does not matter. Clear is clear. Apply vigorously and in several coats.
After that no one will see the rod as it is now clear.
Voila'. Problem solved. Always happy to help.
See ya
Bob
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 24, 2018, 08:25:29 AM
Tom,
The LED lighting is stunning! Yet again you have again caused me to rethink how I go about my modeling. I now wish I had used a shadowbox approach to building my modules so I could light my layout with LED's as you did.
Jerry,
You can still use LEDs on your layout. You only need to build a light weight canopy over the existing layout.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Since I saw your photos I have been trying to figure out how I might support such a canopy over the layout. Right now I am of the opinion that I would have to use some steel or aluminum angle to construct the canopy. I do not think wood supports would be rigid enough to avoid the canopy sagging over time. I believe that I could have used wood supports had I designed the modules differently.
Good Morning Tom.
Love what you are doing with the lighting. I have never been satisfied with the florescent (sp) lighting I have. Since my layout is all curves, can I contour the LED lights to a 7 ft. radius? Your opinion. I would make a support system that would also allow me to include a drape from the ceiling down, giving a greater feeling of depth to the layout. Really like what you are doing, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Tom, have you had any problems using 'conventional' lumber (1x4) for benchwork, with Florida humidity causing warping? I know some people recommend ripping 1x4 out of 3/4" plywood, but that's a lot of extra work and I'm not sure if if the benefit is there.
dave
Quote from: bparrish on March 24, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
Tom...
I have a solution for the running thread support rod on your upper level.
Go down to a local big box store and get a spray can of clear paint. Gloss, satin or flat does not matter. Clear is clear. Apply vigorously and in several coats.
After that no one will see the rod as it is now clear.
Voila'. Problem solved. Always happy to help.
See ya
Bob
Or you could get some Ghost Tape, same result.
You'll never hear me say too many pics, keep them coming.
Quote from: deemery on March 25, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
Tom, have you had any problems using 'conventional' lumber (1x4) for benchwork, with Florida humidity causing warping? I know some people recommend ripping 1x4 out of 3/4" plywood, but that's a lot of extra work and I'm not sure if if the benefit is there.
dave
Dave,
I know you addressed this question to Tom, but I'm going to hijack his thread briefly and give you my two cents. I strongly considered ripping the 1x4's for my modular layout from sheets of 3/4" plywood. But, before I bought any plywood, thankfully I read the user reviews. Almost every type of interior plywood from one of the "big box" lumber yards; regardless of species, birch, oak, etc., was reviewed as having voids in the substrate portions of the sheet. Once I read the reviews, I decided to go with conventional lumber.
That being said, IMO you have two choices to minimize the issue of warping. Either pay more and buy top quality lumber from a smaller "mom & pop" yard, or go prepared to spend time sorting through all the stacks of 1x4's regardless of length. I ended up buying 16' lengths more often than shorter boards. First, it cost less per foot to buy the 16 footers. Second, it seemed to me to be easier to find better quality, IMO because the shorter lengths sell better, and thus are more picked over. I also brought the lumber into the house for a few days before I used it to allow it to acclimate. I did have a problem with one of my table tops warping. Two of the 1x4's developed a twist. I replaced them and changed from 1/4" plywood table tops, chosen to reduce weight, to 1/2" ply. I also became more vigilant in checking the boards for a "twist". The boards that showed even a slight twist were used for leg braces rather than the tables themselves. Thus far, knock on wood, everything is straight and true.
I hope that you will post a thread so we can follow along with your design and construction.
Jerry, thanks for answering. It'll be helpful to compare your experience with Tom's. If I did go the plywood strip route, I decided to use higher quality plywood. It's not that much more expensive, and you're less likely to find those holes or glue-outs.
Most people I've talked to are using 3/4" plywood for the tops, but I'm thinking about 1/2" mostly for weight. I'm not so much worried about the weight of the finished layout, than the weight of the materials that I have to carry from the lumber yard to the basement by myself :-)
dave
I'll add my two cents here as well. Most of my lumber is ripped 3/4 inch birch plywood from Lowe's. I really had very few "holes" in substrate. I have them rip the 4x8 foot sheet in half as I can no longer carry a 4x8 sheet myself. :( Of course the saw is broken at Lowe's half the time, so you may have to go back a couple of times. One time when the Lowe's saw was out of commission, I did get a few plywood panels at a contractor's lumber store which were a bit nicer quality, but cost $12 a sheet more.
Jeff
I have a question for Tom. You may have mentioned it somewhere in the threads, but what type of operating system are you going to use? Timetable/train order? Switch lists? Car cards? Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Just my input , I use to use 1/2 and since maturing in the hobby I have learned that 3/4 is much better for everything, also you then only need to buy one length of screws and scrap 3/4 is handy for risers etc.
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Them Docs and running at light speed... (https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.impassionedcinema.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Fback-to-the-future-2.jpg&hash=a7d2a11c63c12c1345d8264878106f98aaf5efeb)
Quote from: bparrish on March 24, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
Tom...
I have a solution for the running thread support rod on your upper level.
Go down to a local big box store and get a spray can of clear paint. Gloss, satin or flat does not matter. Clear is clear. Apply vigorously and in several coats.
After that no one will see the rod as it is now clear.
Voila'. Problem solved. Always happy to help.
See ya
Bob
Bob,
I tired the Tom Terrific trick using lemon juice. That didn't work either.
I don't even see the threaded rod support now. It blends in on ya. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on March 24, 2018, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 05:44:02 PM
These two sections will be screwed in place tomorrow. In preparation, I used a carpenters square and marked where the cross braces are located under the plywood.
Prior to laying the plywood in place I marked the edges of the 1X3 so the screw will be in the center of the 1X3 cross brace. By marking the plywood in the same manner, the screws will be located between the lines which represent the 1X3's below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240318172150.jpeg)
Thanks for following along on this new adventure, the third level build.
I'm all braced and aligned for more photos Sunday.
Chip,
That is good and I hope you are on the level as well.
1:1 stuff held up the Sunday photos.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 25, 2018, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 24, 2018, 08:25:29 AM
Tom,
The LED lighting is stunning! Yet again you have again caused me to rethink how I go about my modeling. I now wish I had used a shadowbox approach to building my modules so I could light my layout with LED's as you did.
Jerry,
You can still use LEDs on your layout. You only need to build a light weight canopy over the existing layout.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Since I saw your photos I have been trying to figure out how I might support such a canopy over the layout. Right now I am of the opinion that I would have to use some steel or aluminum angle to construct the canopy. I do not think wood supports would be rigid enough to avoid the canopy sagging over time. I believe that I could have used wood supports had I designed the modules differently.
Jerry,
I took another look at your layout thread. What about using a 1X1 vertical post with a 1X1 horizontal post secured with a triangle brace? Top cover could be either black fabric or poster board. Very little weight for the total. The 1x1 could be fastened to the rear of the banch work.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on March 25, 2018, 10:53:14 AM
Good Morning Tom.
Love what you are doing with the lighting. I have never been satisfied with the florescent (sp) lighting I have. Since my layout is all curves, can I contour the LED lights to a 7 ft. radius? Your opinion. I would make a support system that would also allow me to include a drape from the ceiling down, giving a greater feeling of depth to the layout. Really like what you are doing, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I think you could make the LEDs a curved configuration by doing them in 14-16" sections, like a linear curve using straight sections on the curve. I'm going to make a curtain drop for the layout as well. This will be after the third level is finished.
Always good to talk to you on the phone.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on March 25, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
Tom, have you had any problems using 'conventional' lumber (1x4) for benchwork, with Florida humidity causing warping? I know some people recommend ripping 1x4 out of 3/4" plywood, but that's a lot of extra work and I'm not sure if if the benefit is there.
dave
Dave,
I've never had a problem with the 1X4 warping but the key is to not buy them that way.
The large box stores, I'll use Lowe's as this is where I get my 1X4s,has them in a vertical bin. The best time to get wood from Lowe's is on Monday or Tuesday. The wood is all picked over on the weekends. They restock on Sunday night.
I can still find cupped, warped and twisted 1X4s in the new stock. I go through 10 boards for every one I purchase.
When I bring the wood home, I let it sit in the layout room for a few days to adjust to my room climate/humidity.
I did consider using cabinet grade 3/4" plywood ripped to 1X4's but decided not to go that route. Extra work, yes, beneficial in my opinion, No.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on March 25, 2018, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: bparrish on March 24, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
Tom...
I have a solution for the running thread support rod on your upper level.
Go down to a local big box store and get a spray can of clear paint. Gloss, satin or flat does not matter. Clear is clear. Apply vigorously and in several coats.
After that no one will see the rod as it is now clear.
Voila'. Problem solved. Always happy to help.
See ya
Bob
Or you could get some Ghost Tape, same result.
Jan,
Great idea but I couldn't find any ghost tape. I guess I couldn't see it to buy it. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Tom
I just got caught up with your thread. WOW - you have been working hard. The LED lighting looks great. I'm getting rid of all the florescent lighting on my layout, too.
To add my two cents to the wood discussion, I would only use 3/4 inch plywood (the stability difference from 1/2 inch is very noticeable. I use the plywood for the top of the benchwork but build the structures on gator board and attach it to the 3/4 inch plywood. To Jeff's point - solve the weight issue by getting it cut to manageable size. I call ahead and Home Depot cuts everything for me before I get there and find out the saw isn't working. No charge. I used solid number 1 pine for my benchwork structure - I made sure it was in the house for a few weeks before I used it, as was mentioned. And also, made sure it was straight before I used it. The key to keeping things from warping is humidity control - air conditioning to take the moisture out in the summer and humidifier in the winter to add the moisture in the winter (for those of us that have to deal with winter). Be careful that you don't get things to wet when your doing scenery. One final point - use screws and glue not nails to hold everything in place.
Quote from: Lynnb on March 25, 2018, 04:14:34 PM
You'll never hear me say too many pics, keep them coming.
Lynn,
I enjoy posting the pictures of what I've been doing. My picture count on this build, started in December 2013 is now at 3,015 and counting.
So, yes, they will continue.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 25, 2018, 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: deemery on March 25, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
Tom, have you had any problems using 'conventional' lumber (1x4) for benchwork, with Florida humidity causing warping? I know some people recommend ripping 1x4 out of 3/4" plywood, but that's a lot of extra work and I'm not sure if if the benefit is there.
dave
Dave,
I know you addressed this question to Tom, but I'm going to hijack his thread briefly and give you my two cents. I strongly considered ripping the 1x4's for my modular layout from sheets of 3/4" plywood. But, before I bought any plywood, thankfully I read the user reviews. Almost every type of interior plywood from one of the "big box" lumber yards; regardless of species, birch, oak, etc., was reviewed as having voids in the substrate portions of the sheet. Once I read the reviews, I decided to go with conventional lumber.
That being said, IMO you have two choices to minimize the issue of warping. Either pay more and buy top quality lumber from a smaller "mom & pop" yard, or go prepared to spend time sorting through all the stacks of 1x4's regardless of length. I ended up buying 16' lengths more often than shorter boards. First, it cost less per foot to buy the 16 footers. Second, it seemed to me to be easier to find better quality, IMO because the shorter lengths sell better, and thus are more picked over. I also brought the lumber into the house for a few days before I used it to allow it to acclimate. I did have a problem with one of my table tops warping. Two of the 1x4's developed a twist. I replaced them and changed from 1/4" plywood table tops, chosen to reduce weight, to 1/2" ply. I also became more vigilant in checking the boards for a "twist". The boards that showed even a slight twist were used for leg braces rather than the tables themselves. Thus far, knock on wood, everything is straight and true.
I hope that you will post a thread so we can follow along with your design and construction.
Jerry,
I've never been a stickler for the thread being hijacked. We are here to ask/answer questions and offer opinions
It's all good by me.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:12:16 PM
I'll add my two cents here as well. Most of my lumber is ripped 3/4 inch birch plywood from Lowe's. I really had very few "holes" in substrate. I have them rip the 4x8 foot sheet in half as I can no longer carry a 4x8 sheet myself. :( Of course the saw is broken at Lowe's half the time, so you may have to go back a couple of times. One time when the Lowe's saw was out of commission, I did get a few plywood panels at a contractor's lumber store which were a bit nicer quality, but cost $12 a sheet more.
Jeff
Jeff,
I appreciate you adding your thoughts to the subject. Your opinion is always welcome on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
I have a question for Tom. You may have mentioned it somewhere in the threads, but what type of operating system are you going to use? Timetable/train order? Switch lists? Car cards? Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Jeff,
Great question and at this time I have no idea. I'm leaning towards a switch list and or car cards though.
I try to not let Greg run trains at high speeds.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on March 25, 2018, 10:56:43 PM
Just my input , I use to use 1/2 and since maturing in the hobby I have learned that 3/4 is much better for everything, also you then only need to buy one length of screws and scrap 3/4 is handy for risers etc.
Lynn,
Thanks for your input, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Sure there is. From now on Greg can only run Shay's. ;)
Quote from: S&S RR on March 26, 2018, 02:16:57 PM
Tom
I just got caught up with your thread. WOW - you have been working hard. The LED lighting looks great. I'm getting rid of all the florescent lighting on my layout, too.
To add my two cents to the wood discussion, I would only use 3/4 inch plywood (the stability difference from 1/2 inch is very noticeable. I use the plywood for the top of the benchwork but build the structures on gator board and attach it to the 3/4 inch plywood. To Jeff's point - solve the weight issue by getting it cut to manageable size. I call ahead and Home Depot cuts everything for me before I get there and find out the saw isn't working. No charge. I used solid number 1 pine for my benchwork structure - I made sure it was in the house for a few weeks before I used it, as was mentioned. And also, made sure it was straight before I used it. The key to keeping things from warping is humidity control - air conditioning to take the moisture out in the summer and humidifier in the winter to add the moisture in the winter (for those of us that have to deal with winter). Be careful that you don't get things to wet when your doing scenery. One final point - use screws and glue not nails to hold everything in place.
John,
Thank you for checking on the latest updates. Yea, I've been very busy working on the empire. Thanks also for the compliment on the LED lighting.
I still have the
florescent ambient lighting in the upper wall valences. I'm not sure when I'll get around, if ever, to replace them with LED tubes.Thanks for your comments on the layout bench work wood also.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Thank goodness for that small favor..... :D :D ;)
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 26, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Sure there is. From now on Greg can only run Shay's. ;)
Bob,
Great idea, Shays are fast. How about just letting him use a Climax loco instead?
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 26, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Sure there is. From now on Greg can only run Shay's. ;)
Et Tu Butts..... :) It's good to have such great friends..... ::)
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 26, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Sure there is. From now on Greg can only run Shay's. ;)
Bob,
Great idea, Shays are fast. How about just letting him use a Climax loco instead?
Tom ;D
Careful.....at my age that could be disastrous..... ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on March 26, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on March 25, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
.....Just let someone run trains at light speed end to end? ;D
Jeff
Et tu Doc..... :)
Greg,
The Doc has your disease diagnosed, unfortunately there is no known cure. :'(
Tom 8)
Sure there is. From now on Greg can only run Shay's. ;)
Bob,
Great idea, Shays are fast. How about just letting him use a Climax loco instead?
Tom ;D
Careful.....at my age that could be disastrous..... ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
We had many great comments on bench work and what works. I normally don't like writing and especially don't like reading long winded/written narratives but I'll make an exception here.
I've used 1/2" 4 ply plywood topped with 1/2" Homosote on previous layouts. I've also used 3/4" plywood with cork roadbed.
On the current Atlantic and Southern RR layout, I used many different methods for the various sections.
The lower level bench work is supported by 2X2's bolted to the wall using tap cons. The actual bench work is 1X4's and 2X2 for leg supports.
The second level bench work is 2X2's (six inches in length) bolted to the wall. The cross braces and front board are all 1X4's as on the first level.
The front 1X4, on the second level, is supported by a 1X2 screwed to the second level 1X4, the first level 1X4 and extends down the 2X2 floor leg.
My 1X4 cross bracing is done on 16 to 18 inch centers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260318145524.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260318145524.jpeg)
The plywood for the first and second level is 3 ply 3/8" plywood. I've experience no major issues with any of the wood.
I did have one section of a 2X8 ft. plywood "cup" at one end. I solved this by adding an additional 1X4 cross member under the "cupped" area and screwed it down. This was almost four years ago and it hasn't been an issue since.
More in a few.
The base of the Ovalix is all 2X2 tap con'd to the wall and braced with 1X4s. The decking is 1/4" birch plywood. I went with 1/4" due to the height and possible weight of the Ovalix. After almost 5 years, I've experienced no warping on the Ovalix. However, the 1X4 white risers are spaced every 12 to 14 inches and the birch plywood is screwed at each riser.
I've used drywall screws for all wood, no glue except to join two pieces using a splice but them the splice is still screwed to each board.
The upper level is all on 1X3's and 3 ply 3/8" plywood to reduce the weight. Metal wall brackets and shelf brackets are used for the third level.
All the info on my last two posts are scattered through out the entire two A&S RR threads. Here you have it all in two posts.
Now, on to the build.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on March 26, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Bob,
Great idea, Shays are fast. How about just letting him use a Climax loco instead?
Tom ;D
Careful.....at my age that could be disastrous..... ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Jim,
Not sure I want to go there. :-X
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on March 26, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
Bob,
Great idea, Shays are fast. How about just letting him use a Climax loco instead?
Tom ;D
Careful.....at my age that could be disastrous..... ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Jim,
Not sure I want to go there. :-X
Tom ;D
Thanks.....can we now get on with the layout? ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 26, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 25, 2018, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on March 24, 2018, 08:25:29 AM
Tom,
The LED lighting is stunning! Yet again you have again caused me to rethink how I go about my modeling. I now wish I had used a shadowbox approach to building my modules so I could light my layout with LED's as you did.
Jerry,
You can still use LEDs on your layout. You only need to build a light weight canopy over the existing layout.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Since I saw your photos I have been trying to figure out how I might support such a canopy over the layout. Right now I am of the opinion that I would have to use some steel or aluminum angle to construct the canopy. I do not think wood supports would be rigid enough to avoid the canopy sagging over time. I believe that I could have used wood supports had I designed the modules differently.
Jerry,
I took another look at your layout thread. What about using a 1X1 vertical post with a 1X1 horizontal post secured with a triangle brace? Top cover could be either black fabric or poster board. Very little weight for the total. The 1x1 could be fastened to the rear of the banch work.
Tom ;D
Tom,
Thank you so much!
I was so locked into trying to figure out how to build a canopy from wood or Masonite I completely overlooked the obvious. Now that you opened the door for me, I am thinking along the lines of a lightweight framework with foam core artist board on top. I'll probably just use the "Rube Goldberg" lights I now have until I get a lot further along in construction since they do not restrict access to the layout from above. I definitely see an overhead canopy and LED lights as something I will be adding to enhance the overall appearance and lighting of the layout.
Jerry,
You are very welcome. I hope you can do it as the lighting effect of LEDs is really stunning.
Tom ;D
I installed another 8 ft. section of the third level, this time on the East wall.
I changed my idea of building the entire section including the plywood decking. Since I'm installing the LED lighting, I found it easier and quicker to leave off the plywood so I have better access to the LEDs and buss line for wiring them. More on this later in the build.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185134.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185134.jpeg)
You can see there is no decking on the 1X3 frame.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185149.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185149.jpeg)
More in a few.
Yes, it is level on all points, N, S, E, W and all points in between.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185203.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185203.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185235.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185235.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
Here is a look with five sections of the third level installed. Only one, the original section is decked at this point.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185219.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185219.jpeg)
I noticed the LEDs weren't as bright as I hoped. They seemed to get slightly dimmer as they were lit around the room. I emailed, Doug Fletcher, Onewolf forum member, and then realized I had the LEDs wired in series or daisy chained to be clear. They should have been wired parallel with each LED section wired directly to the LED buss.
It made all the difference in the world. More on this later as well as soon as I get it all wired correctly.
Tom ;D
You are really making rapid progress and it all looks great.
Moving along , won't say fast or slow but moving along and looking good.
Damn Uncle Tommie,
It's amazing how much good modeling you can do in a short period of time. I need to convince you to come to Boise and help me with my railroad. How about a case to 2 ltr bottles of Diet Pepsi?
He He
;D ;D ;D
Really great progress Tom. I'm still amazed (at this point I shouldn't be) at how much wonderful work you get done in such a short time.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on March 28, 2018, 07:12:04 PM
You are really making rapid progress and it all looks great.
Curt,
Yes, when my Babe doesn't have any 1:1 stuff I need, er, she wants me to do.
Isn't it about time for your visit?
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on March 28, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Moving along , won't say fast or slow but moving along and looking good.
Lynn,
Moving along a somewhat of a steady pace these days. And, thank you for the compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 01, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
Damn Uncle Tommie,
It's amazing how much good modeling you can do in a short period of time. I need to convince you to come to Boise and help me with my railroad. How about a case to 2 ltr bottles of Diet Pepsi?
He He
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Good to see you my friend. These days with the new addition to the house, my time is somewhat needed elsewhere. However, I do try to get in a few hours on the layout each day.
I'd love to visit Boise and the Diet Pepsi offer is accepted. Unfortunately, visiting Boise is down the list of priorities if I want this third level to get finished. :P
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on April 02, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
Really great progress Tom. I'm still amazed (at this point I shouldn't be) at how much wonderful work you get done in such a short time.
Mark,
Thank you as well. I'd get more done if it wasn't for the 1:1 stuff in my life at present. The good news is I see my time getting more free in the coming months.
Tom ;D
I appreciate all those following and lurking. I'm way behind in getting the thread up to date but hope to spend a good 8 to 10 hours on the layout and updates tomorrow.
Tom ;D
My 1:1 projects are about 75% finished and I've had a few days of getting layout stuff finished.
I've added another 2' x 8' section to the East side third level. Prior to installing the frame boxes, I added the LEDs to the bottom of the box.
I cut the 16 ft. LED strip in half and doubled it on the 1 1/4" wide Masonite. The strips are glued to the Masonite and then screwed to the underside of the frame.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165658.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165658.jpeg)
The ends of the LEDs are wired together, - to - and + to +.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185249.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280318185249.jpeg)
More in a few.
The frame is then placed on the third level brackets and screwed in place.
The LEDs strips are temporarily wired to the LED buss line. I'll either solder or use suitcase clips for permanent attachment.
I use an AC-DC Power Supply for the LED lighting.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165855.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165855.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165908.jpeg)
I got these off Amazon, four for $60.00.
More in a few.
I attached the power supply to a piece of plywood. The green and white wires on the left are the LED buss wires, the other wires are the power supply and ground wires. I've placed it in an area where I have easy access to the wiring.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170130.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170130.jpeg)
Back in a few, Diet Pepsi is looking for me. 8) 8)
I'll have only five sections of LEDs powered by one Power Supply box. I should be able to power all the LEDs under the third level using only three power supply boxes.
Here is how the second level looks with the LEDs and ceiling lights on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170016.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170016.jpeg)
Here is how the second level looks with only the LEDs on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165923.jpeg)
Wiring the LEDs parallel with the buss line instead of in series/daisy chaining sure made the difference.
OneWolf set me straight on the LED wiring. Thank you Doug for the help.
More in a few.
Using the word parallel reminded me of a story from my law enforcement days.
I had just been promoted to Probationary Sergeant and temporarily assigned to the DUI Task Force.
Around 3 AM on my first night, I stopped an old gentleman for DUI. He was all over the road. I got him out of his vehicle and after an incoherent conversation on his part, I started asking him to perform certain tasks.
Cutting to the chase, I asked him to stand straight, hold his arms out parallel to the ground with his palms up. He did this with some difficulty.
I then asked him to stay in that position and lift either his left or right leg and stand one legged for 30 seconds.
He put his arms down and said, "Now officer, I can't do that. Can't you see my legs are parallel?"
True story and yes, he was arrested for DUI.
Here are a few closer looks at the second level with the LEDs on and the over head lights out.
The brackets won't show after the fascia is attached.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170030.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170030.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170044.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170044.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170100.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418170114.jpeg)
Looking great, I really need to look into these led's.
One final thought on the third level.
I found it necessary to Gregize the third level bench work.
Grig-eyes
Verb -
1. to secure or make permanent, especially third level bench work.
"third level is gregized and can't be moved"
2. to attach to the wall, pertaining to third level bench work.
"third level is gregized from Greg"
3. to tap-con to wall (especially for protection from Greg)
"third level is gregized with tap-cons"
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165714.jpeg)
Quote from: Lynnb on April 05, 2018, 05:49:51 PM
Looking great, I really need to look into these led's.
Lynn,
Thank you, much appreciate you checking in. The LEDs do make a difference in the lighting of the second level.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 05, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
One final thought on the third level.
I found it necessary to Gregize the third level bench work.
Grig-eyes
Verb -
1. to secure or make permanent, especially third level bench work.
"third level is gregized and can't be moved"
2. to attach to the wall, pertaining to third level bench work.
"third level is gregized from Greg"
3. to tap-con to wall (especially for protection from Greg)
"third level is gregized with tap-cons"
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165714.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165714.jpeg)
I'm trying to come up with a worthy, pithy retort, but so far "I got nuttin".....stay tuned. ;D
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Tom,
Once again, you have "enlightened" me. After seeing them on your layout thread, I started checking into the LED strips. Your post explaining they should be wired in parallel (thanks to Doug, too), as well as the photos will make it much easier for me to add them to my layout.
Greg Cubed?
For the power supplies is it possible to use old desktop computer power supplies because of thier low voltage outputs ?
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Quote from: BandOGuy on April 06, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Works for me..... ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 06, 2018, 12:59:31 PM
Greg Cubed?
?..... ::)
I don't think I want to be cubed though.....it's hard enough to loose weight as it is.[size=78%] [/size] ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 05, 2018, 05:18:11 PM
The frame is then placed on the third level brackets and screwed in place.
The LEDs strips are temporarily wired to the LED buss line. I'll either solder or use suitcase clips for permanent attachment.
I use an AC-DC Power Supply for the LED lighting.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165855.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165855.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165908.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050418165908.jpeg)
I got these off Amazon, four for $60.00.
More in a few.
Tom,
can you post the link to this Amazon site please.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Here is the unit I got.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2)
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 02, 2018, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 01, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
Damn Uncle Tommie,
It's amazing how much good modeling you can do in a short period of time. I need to convince you to come to Boise and help me with my railroad. How about a case to 2 ltr bottles of Diet Pepsi?
He He
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Good to see you my friend. These days with the new addition to the house, my time is somewhat needed elsewhere. However, I do try to get in a few hours on the layout each day.
I'd love to visit Boise and the Diet Pepsi offer is accepted. Unfortunately, visiting Boise is down the list of priorities if I want this third level to get finished. :P
Tom ;D
OK, I will have to find out how much it costs to ship that much Diet Pepsi to Orlando. Somehow I don't think it will all fit in the $5 shipping box from the post office.
Bob Parrish and I would love to have you out here sometime in the future. I think you would get a kick out of our group of model builders. Most of us have known each other for 30years or more. The nearest RR hobby shop is 300 miles away and even finding plastic cement in Boise can be a challenge around here these days. Thank GOD for EBAY!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: jerryrbeach on April 06, 2018, 09:11:20 AM
Tom,
Once again, you have "enlightened" me. After seeing them on your layout thread, I started checking into the LED strips. Your post explaining they should be wired in parallel (thanks to Doug, too), as well as the photos will make it much easier for me to add them to my layout.
Jerry,
I'm very happy you like the LED lighting. Doug has helped me tremendously on the LED lighting.
Thanks you for following along on the adventure.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 06, 2018, 12:59:31 PM
Greg Cubed?
Curt,
Could we have come full circle in "pi r square", as in "Greg r square"? Greg to the third power seems to much! ;D ;D
Just saying.
Tom 8)
Quote from: Lynnb on April 06, 2018, 01:26:33 PM
For the power supplies is it possible to use old desktop computer power supplies because of thier low voltage outputs ?
Lynn,
That, I can't say as I don't know enough to offer a correct answer. However, for the $14.00 and change, why not get the real thing?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2)Tom
Quote from: BandOGuy on April 06, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Chip,
Great idea, but when he came over yesterday, he didn't chant anything. :'(
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on April 01, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
OK, I will have to find out how much it costs to ship that much Diet Pepsi to Orlando. Somehow I don't think it will all fit in the $5 shipping box from the post office.
Bob Parrish and I would love to have you out here sometime in the future. I think you would get a kick out of our group of model builders. Most of us have known each other for 30years or more. The nearest RR hobby shop is 300 miles away and even finding plastic cement in Boise can be a challenge around here these days. Thank GOD for EBAY!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
I would really love to come visit with ya'll. Sounds like you have a great group of people in the area.
We are still fortunate enough to have two hobby shops in the Central Florida area but I only go to the one closest to the house. Most of my other stuff comes from the internet and Amazon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 06, 2018, 12:59:31 PM
Greg Cubed?
Curt,
Could we have come full circle in "pi r square", as in "Greg r square"? Greg to the third power seems to much! ;D ;D
Just saying.
Tom 8)
I'll have to give this one some thought..... ???
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on April 06, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Chip,
Great idea, but when he came over yesterday, he didn't chant anything. :'(
Tom ;D
First off.....if I started chanting, your neighbors would probably call 911. :(
Second.....I thought y'all were supposed to chant when I entered the shed. ;D ;D ;D
By the way.....the new bench work looks great and the lighting is perfect.....love the idea about the roundhouse. 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 08, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on April 06, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Chip,
Great idea, but when he came over yesterday, he didn't chant anything. :'(
Tom ;D
First off.....if I started chanting, your neighbors would probably call 911. :(
Second.....I thought y'all were supposed to chant when I entered the SHED. ;D ;D ;D
Shed......when was the last time he was there.......
Jim
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 06, 2018, 01:26:33 PM
For the power supplies is it possible to use old desktop computer power supplies because of thier low voltage outputs ?
Lynn,
That, I can't say as I don't know enough to offer a correct answer. However, for the $14.00 and change, why not get the real thing?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2)
Tom
Yes I didn't realize they were so inexpensive. Unfortuneatly they don't ship up here in Ontario and amazon.ca there is a rather large price difference. Same thing happened when I was looking for Krylon Camoflage Sand and Rustoleum Camoflage Sand, found it on .com but won't ship to Canada and its not available in Canada.
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 08, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
First off.....if I started chanting, your neighbors would probably call 911. :(
Second.....I thought y'all were supposed to chant when I entered the shed. ;D ;D ;D
Here you go! Gregorian Chant-Monty Python and the Holy Grail.mov (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP4DS2WURU)
dave
My experience with computer power supplies is only with them still in the computers, but comments I've heard from others indicate it applies to salvaged power supplies too: They're designed for the useful life of the computer, maybe 5-6 years if your local grid power is relatively clean. In other words, use 'em if you have a source, but expect to replace them every once in a while. They're a lot more efficient than the ancient MRC power packs still working for their 3rd owner and 8th layout, but not as durable.
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 08, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
By the way.....the new bench work looks great and the lighting is perfect.....love the idea about the roundhouse. 8)
Greg,
Thank you. Yes, the new location of the turntable and roundhouse will work just fine.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on April 08, 2018, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 08, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Quote from: BandOGuy on April 06, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
Greg,
I'll be sure to stay tuned as long as you promise to stay off the layout bench work. 8)
So far we have Greg Speed and now Gregize, I wonder whats next?
Tom ;D
Perhaps a Gregorian chant when he enters the room?
Chip,
Great idea, but when he came over yesterday, he didn't chant anything. :'(
Tom ;D
First off.....if I started chanting, your neighbors would probably call 911. :(
Second.....I thought y'all were supposed to chant when I entered the SHED. ;D ;D ;D
Shed......when was the last time he was there.......
Jim
Jim,
Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on April 08, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 06, 2018, 01:26:33 PM
For the power supplies is it possible to use old desktop computer power supplies because of thier low voltage outputs ?
Lynn,
That, I can't say as I don't know enough to offer a correct answer. However, for the $14.00 and change, why not get the real thing?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J122KF/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524794222&pd_rd_wg=9wgbU&pf_rd_r=4XQ0R224JG5J7PY6GZVC&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B078J122KF&pd_rd_w=jsqpP&pf_rd_i=12+power+supply+ac+to+dc&pd_rd_r=f5243aae-2964-442f-987e-8a1e45d03b43&ie=UTF8&qid=1523132613&sr=2)
Tom
Yes I didn't realize they were so inexpensive. Unfortuneatly they don't ship up here in Ontario and amazon.ca there is a rather large price difference. Same thing happened when I was looking for Krylon Camoflage Sand and Rustoleum Camoflage Sand, found it on .com but won't ship to Canada and its not available in Canada.
Lynn,
It's a real shame you cant' get these items in Canada without paying the higher prices.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on April 08, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 08, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
First off.....if I started chanting, your neighbors would probably call 911. :(
Second.....I thought y'all were supposed to chant when I entered the shed. ;D ;D ;D
Here you go! Gregorian Chant-Monty Python and the Holy Grail.mov (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP4DS2WURU)
dave
Dave,
Good one, thanks.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on April 08, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
My experience with computer power supplies is only with them still in the computers, but comments I've heard from others indicate it applies to salvaged power supplies too: They're designed for the useful life of the computer, maybe 5-6 years if your local grid power is relatively clean. In other words, use 'em if you have a source, but expect to replace them every once in a while. They're a lot more efficient than the ancient MRC power packs still working for their 3rd owner and 8th layout, but not as durable.
James,
Thanks for picking me up on this one. I have no experience at all on this issue.
Tom ;D
Okay, we've had a few good laughs at Greg's expense. He has been a great sport to take it all.
Now, back to the serious matters of building this empire.
This afternoon I pulled a few more buss wires. More on this later in the thread.
This afternoon I also added a new sandy road to the rural station area. A few months ago I built KC's Workshop depot. Here is where I planted it. It is the small structure in the top center of the photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300118184704.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300118184704.jpeg)
I spread some white playground sand from the main dirt/sand road to the depot area. I then wet it with "wet water" and added a liberal amount of matte medium to the sand.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185630.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185630.jpeg)
More in a few.
As the matte medium was drying, I added a few weeds.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185647.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185647.jpeg)
Here are a few extra photos of the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185701.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185701.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185719.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185719.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185733.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185747.jpeg)
Excellent modeling as always Tom.
Quote from: jbvb on April 08, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
My experience with computer power supplies is only with them still in the computers, but comments I've heard from others indicate it applies to salvaged power supplies too: They're designed for the useful life of the computer, maybe 5-6 years if your local grid power is relatively clean. In other words, use 'em if you have a source, but expect to replace them every once in a while. They're a lot more efficient than the ancient MRC power packs still working for their 3rd owner and 8th layout, but not as durable.
Yep I hear you, the technology has changed so much in the past 15 years, so much easier now.
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185747.jpeg)
The liting is amazing.
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
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Tom: These pictures remind me of visiting my grandparents 60 years ago in Marion County. Distinctly recall the sandy roads, trees lining it and the moss hanging. Thanks for taking me back.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 08, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
Excellent modeling as always Tom.
Curt,
As always, thank you for the kind words.
Thanks for stopping by this past Saturday, I had a really great time with all yous guys.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on April 08, 2018, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: jbvb on April 08, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
My experience with computer power supplies is only with them still in the computers, but comments I've heard from others indicate it applies to salvaged power supplies too: They're designed for the useful life of the computer, maybe 5-6 years if your local grid power is relatively clean. In other words, use 'em if you have a source, but expect to replace them every once in a while. They're a lot more efficient than the ancient MRC power packs still working for their 3rd owner and 8th layout, but not as durable.
Yep I hear you, the technology has changed so much in the past 15 years, so much easier now.
Lynn,
Our daughter married an IT guy. I leave it up to him to carry all the heavy stuff in his head. ;D ;D ;D
I just call and say this and that and he says okay do this and that! 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on April 08, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
The liting is amazing.
Lynn,
Thank you, much appreciated. I couldn't believe how it changed the look of the layout. I'm very pleased with how it al turned out at this point.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on April 09, 2018, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 08, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185733.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185747.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080418185747.jpeg)
Tom: These pictures remind me of visiting my grandparents 60 years ago in Marion County. Distinctly recall the sandy roads, trees lining it and the moss hanging. Thanks for taking me back.
Larry,
Thank you for the compliment and you are very welcome. I spent many nights camping in the Ocala National Forrest - Marion County. And I've walked a few of those sandy roads as well. Great memories for sure.
Tom
I got off to a slow start today. I did build another box frame and pulled more wires.
The photo below show the third of five 8 ft. sections in place on the East side.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418175934.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418175934.jpeg)
I'm running three sets of buss wires for the third level.
White and Green - buss line for second level lighting.
Red and Black - buss line for the track feeders.
White and Orange - buss line for structure lighting on the third level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418175952.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418175952.jpeg)
More in a few.
As I install each bench work frame, I pull the six buss wires and then screw that section to the previous one.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418180007.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418180007.jpeg)
The photo above appears to indicate the box frame is not level. I assure ya'll it is.
Forty six feet from epicenter and all is still level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418180022.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090418180022.jpeg)
Hopefully more tomorrow.
Brother Tom,
Just love all those ground level photos of your fabulous modeling. The Scenes look very realistic (except for the third level brackets). ;D Keep on keepin' on... KP-out...
Too late for Tom , but I recommend anyone building a multi level layout to start with the upper level, much easier working underneath the level when there is no scenery from the level below , or do you differ Tom ? I'd just hate to see you bumping in to all the magnificent scenery you've accomplished.
Love the ground level photos.....really looks like the old Florida I remember from my younger years. 8)
Quote from: tct855 on April 09, 2018, 08:43:51 PM
Brother Tom,
Just love all those ground level photos of your fabulous modeling. The Scenes look very realistic (except for the third level brackets). ;D Keep on keepin' on... KP-out...
Brother Thom,
Thank you and you are supposed to not look at the third level brackets. If you are looking up at the brackets, you aren't watching where you are going. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
I lived on a street just like that when we first moved to Florida in 1961.
Jim
Quote from: Janbouli on April 10, 2018, 03:11:16 AM
Too late for Tom , but I recommend anyone building a multi level layout to start with the upper level, much easier working underneath the level when there is no scenery from the level below , or do you differ Tom ? I'd just hate to see you bumping in to all the magnificent scenery you've accomplished.
Jan,
Thank you for checking in on the build thread.
Actually, the third level was planned all along to not go in until the second level scenery was finished.
I only have 17 inches between the second and third levels so getting under the third level to do scenery on the second level wasn't going to work for me. I wouldn't have been able to get the fine detail done if the third level was installed first.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 10, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
Love the ground level photos.....really looks like the old Florida I remember from my younger years. 8)
Greg,
Thank you for the kind words.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on April 10, 2018, 03:05:46 PM
I lived on a street just like that when we first moved to Florida in 1961.
Jim
Jim,
Many Central Fl. streets were like this back in the early 60's. Then bureaucrats wanted to pave everything in sight.
Tom ;D
Beautiful scene down that curved sand road, Tom!
Cheers, Mark.
Hey Tom:
Well done. Great scenery and structures as usual.
Karl
Level doesn't lie, looks good.
Great work, my friend. The street level pictures are fantastic. I can't wait to see what you are going to do with all that new space on the third level.
Tom...
Your street level photos are super.
You have captured rural Florida.
thanx
Bob
Quote from: mark dalrymple on April 10, 2018, 03:22:21 PM
Beautiful scene down that curved sand road, Tom!
Cheers, Mark.
Mark,
Thank you, very much appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on April 10, 2018, 04:55:37 PM
Hey Tom:
Well done. Great scenery and structures as usual.
Karl
Karl,
Much appreciate the compliment. I'm just trying to keep up with the quality of your work my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on April 10, 2018, 07:51:43 PM
Level doesn't lie, looks good.
Lynn,
Thank you and I'm on the level when I say that!
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on April 10, 2018, 11:22:04 PM
Great work, my friend. The street level pictures are fantastic. I can't wait to see what you are going to do with all that new space on the third level.
John,
Thank you for the kind words on the layout and sandy road area. I'm anxious to see what I come up with as well. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on April 11, 2018, 03:13:03 AM
Tom...
Your street level photos are super.
You have captured rural Florida.
thanx
Bob
Bob,
Thank you for the compliment and for checking in. I love the Fl. scenery on the layout. I tried my best to make it look as you described.
Tom ;D
Tom ;D
I need to do something with all these buss wires. The layout room sure needs a good cleaning up.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175343.jpeg)
The Babe is calling, back in a few. I may as well grab an ice cold Diet Pepsi while I'm away. 8)
These are all the buss wires on East side of the layout. So no one trips over them, I pulled them together and used Quick-Grips to hold them out of the way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175400.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175400.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175415.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175415.jpeg)
More in a few.
This afternoon I separated the LED strips and wired them to the correct buss line. I followed Doug's lead (OneWolf) and wired only five LED strips, two sections of 8 feet per power source.
The East wall section is on one power supply, the South and a portion of the West wall is on another power supply. I'll use three of the power supplies when finished.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418180833.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418180833.jpeg)
Here is the latest update on the LED lighting. All lights in the layout room are off except the LEDs lighting the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175429.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418175429.jpeg)
I am liking the LED lighting effect.
More tomorrow afternoon.
Tom, I like LED lighting also and the recently completed Florida backwoods scene you have created. I used LED lights to light my railroad project and it turned out very nice.
Quote from: sdrees on April 13, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
Tom, I like LED lighting also and the recently completed Florida backwoods scene you have created. I used LED lights to light my railroad project and it turned out very nice.
Steve,
Thank you and for following along. I like the look as well. I'm on a mission now to get it finished.
Tom ;D
Over the past several years I've had people ask what the yellow and white wires are for. You can see them in the next photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183012.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183012.jpeg)
These are ROMEX interior household wires and they run from the old four light switches on the West wall by the door.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183029.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183029.jpeg)
More in a few.
When I decided to remove the old layout and build the new improved Atlantic and Southern RR, this four switch array interfered with the third level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183104.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183104.jpeg)
I cut a vertical strip out of the drywall and ran the wires down below the first level staging. I turned the light switch array into a junction box. As you can see I only replaced the drywall strip.
The wires run under the layout into the new switch box as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183120.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183120.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183049.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130418183049.jpeg)
The two switches on the right are for the overhead layout lights, the top left is the attic vent/exhaust fan and the lower right is an exterior door light.
The family knows how it works and when the time comes, the door can be reopened, the light switches can be reinstalled by the door. Of course the layout will be gone and so will I when that happens.
Now ya'll know.
Tom,
When one works with electricity, the probability of someone watching one screw up is proportional to the stupidy of one's actions. ha. Kp-out...
Nice update, don't get electrified. ;D
Quote from: tct855 on April 14, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Tom,
When one works with electricity, the probability of someone watching one screw up is proportional to the stupidy of one's actions. ha. Kp-out...
KPI,
It's all good brother.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Lynnb on April 14, 2018, 11:44:36 PM
Nice update, don't get electrified. ;D
Lynn,
I had an electrician friend follow my doings and all was done correctly and safely. This has been in place for the past four years.
Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
I've thought about running 110 VAC around my (smaller, simpler) layout, but so far I am getting by with three power strips plugged into wall outlets. I did buy a coil of 12/2+ground BX armored cable, though, lest I not remember where it was when drilling from above.
Tom,
I luv the lighting. You are making great progress. Can't wait to see it completed and in person.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 15, 2018, 06:20:51 AM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 14, 2018, 11:44:36 PM
Nice update, don't get electrified. ;D
Lynn,
I had an electrician friend follow my doings and all was done correctly and safely. This has been in place for the past four years.
Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
Normally, your work just blows me away. I mean, wow. But, that electric service sucks. Clamps not secured to cable, sheathing out of the box and exposed (upper right); part of clamp missing (lower right). Sorry for speaking out, but the old sparky in me couldn't keep quiet. I'll go back into my corner now.
Take care.
Quote from: jbvb on April 15, 2018, 11:42:38 AM
I've thought about running 110 VAC around my (smaller, simpler) layout, but so far I am getting by with three power strips plugged into wall outlets. I did buy a coil of 12/2+ground BX armored cable, though, lest I not remember where it was when drilling from above.
James,
I'm using two power strips elsewhere in the room. One is only used to recharge tools and the other one is for the DCC system.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on April 15, 2018, 12:33:01 PM
Tom,
I luv the lighting. You are making great progress. Can't wait to see it completed and in person.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
Thank you for checking in on the LED lighting. Over the next three weeks I intend to be finished with the around the wall third level.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Oldguy on April 16, 2018, 11:36:20 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 15, 2018, 06:20:51 AM
Quote from: Lynnb on April 14, 2018, 11:44:36 PM
Nice update, don't get electrified. ;D
Lynn,
I had an electrician friend follow my doings and all was done correctly and safely. This has been in place for the past four years.
Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
Normally, your work just blows me away. I mean, wow. But, that electric service sucks. Clamps not secured to cable, sheathing out of the box and exposed (upper right); part of clamp missing (lower right). Sorry for speaking out, but the old sparky in me couldn't keep quiet. I'll go back into my corner now.
Take care.
Bob,
I appreciate you honesty and comment. Your comments/concerns/opinions are always welcome here. Although I agree in part with your comment, the clamp issue will be fixed and although looks bad, it isn't dangerous.
My electrician friend pointed out the same concerns but I got lazy and never finished adding the new screws to rear of the box to secure the cable.
Tom ;D
Wait a minute here !!!
Time out !!!
When did Bob D become the forum's OSHA inspector?
A little fritzed hair from time to time is necessary to maintain a healthy respect for those electrons that want out of the wire real bad.
Just thinkin' our loud here.
See ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on April 16, 2018, 12:16:26 PM
Wait a minute here !!!
Time out !!!
When did Bob D become the forum's OSHA inspector?
A little fritzed hair from time to time is necessary to maintain a healthy respect for those electrons that want out of the wire real bad.
Just thinkin' our loud here.
See ya
Bob
Sorry. Spent 6 years in the Navy as an electricians mate (last 2 years as EM1) and then over 30 years as a certified safety professional (engineering aspects). So it just comes natural to me. ;D
Quote from: bparrish on April 16, 2018, 12:16:26 PM
Wait a minute here !!!
Time out !!!
When did Bob D become the forum's OSHA inspector?
A little fritzed hair from time to time is necessary to maintain a healthy respect for those electrons that want out of the wire real bad.
Just thinkin' our loud here.
See ya
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for checking in and following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Oldguy on April 16, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: bparrish on April 16, 2018, 12:16:26 PM
Wait a minute here !!!
Time out !!!
When did Bob D become the forum's OSHA inspector?
A little fritzed hair from time to time is necessary to maintain a healthy respect for those electrons that want out of the wire real bad.
Just thinkin' our loud here.
See ya
Bob
Sorry. Spent 6 years in the Navy as an electricians mate (last 2 years as EM1) and then over 30 years as a certified safety professional (engineering aspects). So it just comes natural to me. ;D
Bob,
No problem, I appreciate you following along on the adventure.
Tom ;D
So, to be clear for the ones who are electrically challenged. Here's a visual aide of the above conversations. Everyone who's a modeler is secretively a rivet counter no matter how polite, so when one post a how-to and forgets a tiny clamp... L@@k out modelers! Ha. enjoy! P.S. I love this hobby, posting what I've done in detail on forums, not so much...
The first and second photo look okay.....the third is confusing. ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
The first and second photo look okay.....the third is confusing. ;D
It's all quite confusing to moi!
T 8)
The judge and I decided to take a few ground level pictures of our ACL Pacific reefer train. It was necessary to double head the locos due to all the fruit being pulled out of Mellonville. The photos are of the locos and not the reefers. So, if Thom is looking in, you won't be seeing many, if at all. 8)
We both took several pictures but I decided these were the only ones worth posting and that is debatable.
And, I'm still pulling buss wires.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418162926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418162926.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418162956.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418162956.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418162941.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418163042.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418163012.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418163012.jpeg)
I left the brackets in the photo above so Thom would feel at home.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418163027.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170418163027.jpeg)
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 17, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
The first and second photo look okay.....the third is confusing. ;D
It's all quite confusing to moi!
T 8)
I'm glad to hear it.....I'd hate to be all alone in my confused state. ;D
I'm also real happy that you haven't set anything ablaze.....but keep your fire extinguisher handy, just in case. ;D ;D ;D
Someone asked if I was Here! Yopp!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3-geQPLkYg
Quote from: tct855 on April 17, 2018, 04:45:13 PM
Someone asked if I was Here! Yopp!!!
You're not here.....you're there. ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 17, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
The first and second photo look okay.....the third is confusing. ;D
It's all quite confusing to moi!
T 8)
I'm glad to hear it.....I'd hate to be all alone in my confused state. ;D
I'm also real happy that you haven't set anything ablaze.....but keep your fire extinguisher handy, just in case. ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
My wiring is fine but I'm very concerned about Slim's LEDs.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: tct855 on April 17, 2018, 04:45:13 PM
Someone asked if I was Here! Yopp!!!
You're not here.....you're there. ;D
Actually, neither one of yous is here, but I certainly am.
Tom :P
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 17, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 17, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 17, 2018, 08:45:08 AM
The first and second photo look okay.....the third is confusing. ;D
It's all quite confusing to moi!
T 8)
I'm glad to hear it.....I'd hate to be all alone in my confused state. ;D
I'm also real happy that you haven't set anything ablaze.....but keep your fire extinguisher handy, just in case. ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
My wiring is fine but I'm very concerned about Slim's LEDs.
Tom ;D
I'll join you in that.....I just hope he isn't at home when it all goes up.....Mrs. Slim makes the best biscotti and it would be a great loss to humanity if we loose her. ::)
Those ground level shots are great...especially the one with the cars at the crossing. I imagine they capture the sense of power it must have been like when those steel monsters blasted by up close.
Great job!
John
Great pics of the layout Tom!
Quote from: Cuse on April 20, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
Those ground level shots are great...especially the one with the cars at the crossing. I imagine they capture the sense of power it must have been like when those steel monsters blasted by up close.
Great job!
John
John,
I've been trying to get shots other than the aerial views. Thanks for stopping by for a looks see.
Tom ;D
Quote from: MAP on April 25, 2018, 06:40:09 AM
Great pics of the layout Tom!
Mark,
Much appreciate the compliment. Thank you.
Tom ;D
I've been very busy with 1:1 stuff and have really ignored the A&S thread for quite some time. We added a small room to the front of the house and that project kept me busy for several months.
I haven't been totally idle in relation to working on the layout however. I'm about 100 photos behind on updating the thread.
My plan is to get back to the thread posting this week.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 01, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
I've been very busy with 1:1 stuff and have really ignored the A&S thread for quite some time. We added a small room to the front of the house and that project kept me busy for several months.
I haven't been totally idle in relation to working on the layout however. I'm about 100 photos behind on updating the thread.
My plan is to get back to the thread posting this week.
Tom ;D
It is the season for 1:1 projects, even in Florida . The weather in Michigan has finally broke and all the stuff that was supposed to get done in April on the nice days didn't get done. So I know how you feel about being behind with the posting. I'm looking forward to your future posts - that third level is going to create a whole lot of room for more railroad.
Quote from: S&S RR on May 01, 2018, 08:21:37 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 01, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
I've been very busy with 1:1 stuff and have really ignored the A&S thread for quite some time. We added a small room to the front of the house and that project kept me busy for several months.
I haven't been totally idle in relation to working on the layout however. I'm about 100 photos behind on updating the thread.
My plan is to get back to the thread posting this week.
Tom ;D
It is the season for 1:1 projects, even in Florida . The weather in Michigan has finally broke and all the stuff that was supposed to get done in April on the nice days didn't get done. So I know how you feel about being behind with the posting. I'm looking forward to your future posts - that third level is going to create a whole lot of room for more railroad.
John,
This project started back in July 2017 when the contract with the builder was signed. Actual construction began in November 2107 due to the City delaying the permitting process. This is typical for Orlando to jerk the residents around for a few months.
I'll have a few posts later this evening. Wednesday is Date Night for the Babe and me.
Thanks checking in on the build.
Tom ;D
All the buss wires have been pulled for the third level except those that will go down the center third level.
I've tapped into the buss wires and have the wires screwed to a terminal strip in preparation for running the wires down the center.
I cut the sleeve on the wire and soldered the wires together.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154850.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154850.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154907.jpeg)
More in a few.
I found my cross members/braces in the wrong location in adding the decking/plywood to one section of the third level.
To fix this, I cut a spare piece of 1X4, marked the center line and screwed it to the end of the plywood as shown below.
It just worked out that the 1X4 butted up against the 1X3 cross brace.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154927.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154927.jpeg)
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More in a few.
The next piece of plywood was only three feet in length. This fit nicely on the cross brace and wall supports. I then screwed it in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154958.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518154958.jpeg)
Here is how it all looks at this point. Well, I should say that point as I'm beyond what is shown in the following few photos.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518155014.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518155014.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518155029.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518155044.jpeg)
Continued.
Here are a few rare views of the third level as seen from inside the Ovalix.
Ovalix and South end -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160228.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160228.jpeg)
South end. The lights are off on the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160243.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160243.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020518160318.jpeg)
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The next update will be either Friday or Saturday evening.
Two-tone,
Looking good bossman! Nice clean proper professional job T. Wow what a difference to the layout. Just wait till you complete the top with lots of scenery. I think the craftsman's show should consider a show in Los Florida' so there's a no excuse reasons for everyone not to visit your AS empire. KP-out...
That's just cruel making us wait till Friday. ;D ;D ;D
Looking good Tom. 8)
Great to see you're making progress Tom. As always it all looks very professionally done. Looking forward to your next update.
Tom,
Great Progress on the upper level. What do you have planned for the upper level at the ovalix? It would make a nice mid size town. Just asking. Really impressed with your progress. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
I find work-in-progress photos that show benchwork, lighting, wiring, etc, VERY inspiring! Please keep showing those, as well as the finished product.
dave
Quote from: tct855 on May 02, 2018, 07:32:15 PM
Two-tone,
Looking good bossman! Nice clean proper professional job T. Wow what a difference to the layout. Just wait till you complete the top with lots of scenery. I think the craftsman's show should consider a show in Los Florida' so there's a no excuse reasons for everyone not to visit your AS empire. KP-out...
KPI,
Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by and looking in on the update. Scenery and a ton of structures on the third level.
I did speak to Jimmy D. about an Expo in the south. He stated the many vendors from the North weren't keen on the idea. Better for the peons to travel to the Expo rather than the Expo travel to the peons. My words, not his.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 02, 2018, 08:30:41 PM
That's just cruel making us wait till Friday. ;D ;D ;D
Looking good Tom. 8)
Greg,
Patience grasshopper, only one more day. And, thank you.
Tom 8)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 02, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
Great to see you're making progress Tom. As always it all looks very professionally done. Looking forward to your next update.
Curt,
Great to see you my friend. Thank you for the kind words on the work. It has been a fun past few months.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on May 02, 2018, 11:37:14 PM
Tom,
Great Progress on the upper level. What do you have planned for the upper level at the ovalix? It would make a nice mid size town. Just asking. Really impressed with your progress. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Good afternoon Frank. Thanks for the compliment on the work. Not sure what the Ovalix will bring. I know one priority is to have a 40-42 inch radius from the south wall of the Ovalix to the center of the third level. This will allow a very nice curve for the passenger trains to back into the station. another update tomorrow evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on May 03, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
I find work-in-progress photos that show benchwork, lighting, wiring, etc, VERY inspiring! Please keep showing those, as well as the finished product.
dave
Dave,
Thank you for letting me and others know that the work-in-progress photos serve a purpose. I've had naysayers say the wiring, bench work, lighting and etc. isn't necessary.
I do show many extra pictures but I also like to show and area from the very beginning to the finished scene. I guess it all goes back to my crime scene processing days.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
It is good to show how you overcome problems.
Thanks for sharing.
Mike :)
Speaking of 'crime scene': I always wanted to go to a law enforcement supply store and buy evidence bags, and then to a shooting range to dig out slugs. I'd put a slug in each bag. Then when someone came to nit-pick, I'd hand him a bag and say, "Here, why don't you get a clue!" ;D ;D
dave
Quote from: madharry on May 03, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
It is good to show how you overcome problems.
Thanks for sharing.
Mike :)
Mike,
Thanks for stopping by and posting your comment. Problem solving isn't always fun but it is rewarding.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on May 03, 2018, 04:36:25 PM
Speaking of 'crime scene': I always wanted to go to a law enforcement supply store and buy evidence bags, and then to a shooting range to dig out slugs. I'd put a slug in each bag. Then when someone came to nit-pick, I'd hand him a bag and say, "Here, why don't you get a clue!" ;D ;D
dave
Dave,
That my friend is a fantastic idea.
Tom ;D
Tom;
I for one am really glad you are showing all the steps of modeling your layout. I have been reading right along and learning far faster then I would if I had to wade through a bunch of how to books. You have already figured out best methods on many areas so saves people like me from re-inventing the wheel.
When your layout is open to visits again give a shoutout. Hopefully we will still be in Florida and can stop by. In the meantime thanks for the posts and ideas.
Quote from: Jim on May 03, 2018, 08:00:50 PM
Tom;
I for one am really glad you are showing all the steps of modeling your layout. I have been reading right along and learning far faster then I would if I had to wade through a bunch of how to books. You have already figured out best methods on many areas so saves people like me from re-inventing the wheel.
When your layout is open to visits again give a shoutout. Hopefully we will still be in Florida and can stop by. In the meantime thanks for the posts and ideas.
Jim,
Thank you, much appreciated.
The layout is open for visits but no telling what project may be going on at the time. Let me know a day or so in advance and we'll make it happen.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 03, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: deemery on May 03, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
I find work-in-progress photos that show benchwork, lighting, wiring, etc, VERY inspiring! Please keep showing those, as well as the finished product.
dave
Dave,
Thank you for letting me and others know that the work-in-progress photos serve a purpose. I've had naysayers say the wiring, bench work, lighting and etc. isn't necessary.
I do show many extra pictures but I also like to show and area from the very beginning to the finished scene. I guess it all goes back to my crime scene processing days.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Tom
My 2 cents -the naysayers have never built a railroad. Keep doing what your doing - there are a lot of people watching and learning. Thank you for taking the time for the "build thread" - details included.
Quote from: S&S RR on May 04, 2018, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 03, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: deemery on May 03, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
I find work-in-progress photos that show benchwork, lighting, wiring, etc, VERY inspiring! Please keep showing those, as well as the finished product.
dave
Dave,
Thank you for letting me and others know that the work-in-progress photos serve a purpose. I've had naysayers say the wiring, bench work, lighting and etc. isn't necessary.
I do show many extra pictures but I also like to show and area from the very beginning to the finished scene. I guess it all goes back to my crime scene processing days.
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Tom
My 2 cents -the naysayers have never built a railroad. Keep doing what your doing - there are a lot of people watching and learning. Thank you for taking the time for the "build thread" - details included.
John,
I appreciate your 2 cents worth. I know it's easy to criticize another persons work, as those that haven't built a layout. I'm just in the habit of almost literally showing everything I do on the build.
Again, thank you for the support.
Tom ;D
Last month I had the pleasure of visiting Bill and Kris Cutler up North. Actually only about 28 miles north of Orlando. ;D ;D ;D
They were showing me some of the Woodland Scenics Plug N' Play lights. To be honest, I've never considered using any of these lights but I liked the look of the wood poles with the metal light arm. The poles/arms are plastic and made to look like wood and metal.
I then came home and ordered three boxes of the lights.
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The three light poles also come the a short extension pole if you need to make them higher. You can almost see them in the lower right of the package.
The LED wires are embedded in the metal arm and pole. The LED wires are 36" in length.
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The LED wires are very thin and fragile and at Bill's suggestion, I put a little drop of glue on the bottom where the wire exits from the pole to secure the wires.
More in a few.
I decided to use these as parking lot light poles at Barlow's Smokehouse. The smokehouse is a FOS kit and build by Master Builder Reading Bob for the Atlantic and Southern RR.
The parking lot sits on top of 2" of blue foam and 3/8" of plywood. I used a trick I've shared on the thread in the past but I'll go over it again for any new followers.
I knew it would be difficult to feed the thin wires down the rabbit hole. I used a long 1/8" drill bit and drilled down through the foam and plywood. I then cut a piece of 1/8" OD (outside diameter) brass tube to a length of four inches.
In the photo below you can see the pole next to a longer piece of tubing. The second photo shows how the light pole fits snugly into the 1/8" brass tubing.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172841.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172841.jpeg)
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More in a few.
After the hole was drilled down through the foam and plywood, the brass tube was glued into the hole. I used a clothes pin to hold the brass tube in place until the glued dried. In this case over night.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172912.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172912.jpeg)
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Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
Tom I appreciate everything you post , most of all maybe the how you do it stuff, thanks for sharing.
Quote from: Janbouli on May 04, 2018, 05:56:16 PM
Tom I appreciate everything you post , most of all maybe the how you do it stuff, thanks for sharing.
Jan,
Thank you as well for the support. I enjoy sharing all that I do on the build and it also keeps me focused on getting things done so I can share with others.
Tom ;D
Here you can see my three clothes pin poles. ;D ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172959.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518172959.jpeg)
And, here you can see the three poles in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173016.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173016.jpeg)
More in a few.
Let there be light my friends.
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I'll be back in a few as I need to crop a few more pictures.
I then moved on to install LEDs in Baker's Country Store. This kit is one of Jimmy D's Railroadkits.
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I started this build in October of 2010. You can see the build thread if interested here.
http://www.kitforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4605 (http://www.kitforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4605)
I knew at one point I would be installing lights so I made the roof removable to make it easy to add the LEDs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173137.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173137.jpeg)
More in a few.
As I mentioned the WS light poles are plug and play. Each pack of three light poles come with a small wiring harness.
WS refers to this harness as a Linker Plug.
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I used the female end and plugged the LED into the receptacle. I then used the remainder of the red and black wires to add the other two LEDS.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173209.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173209.jpeg)
More in a few.
Fast forward and here is Baker's with the lights installed.
Reading Bob built the FOS Three Finger Freddy's including the addition of the LEDs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173225.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040518173225.jpeg)
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Next few/several posts will be the addition of other LEDs in the structures around the second level of the layout.
Tom ;D
Really nice lighting effects Tom. The light poles really punched up the BBQ scene.
Tom
The LED lighting really gives the structures another dimension. Very nicely done. It looks like I need to help Slim pay off the wedding bills. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Hi Tom,
The photo of the country store is really great Tom. And the lights really add to the layout different scenes. I guess I need to quit procrastinating and get some lights installed on my layout.
SWEET LOOKING LIGHTS!!! .I guess I am going to have to get my backside into gear and put lights in my buildings. They look awesome My friend. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Uncle Tommie,
We must think alike because I just purchase the woodland senics plug and play light components for an evil model railroad project. I going to even be using that same light pole in my project. Their must be some sort of psychic connection between us. Maybe that's what happens when you drink so much Diet Pepsi that soon all us Diet Pepsi drinkers begin to think alike.
I must have another diet pepsi.....
I must have another diet pepsi....
I must buy a woodland senics light pole....
I must have another diet pepsi....
Cousin Brucie
;D ;D ;D
Nice job on the lights Tom.
Mike :)
Bruce.............
I would say........... after your last post............ that
The sixties were good to you but................. you aren't that old. ! ! ! !
What is your evil plan ? ? ? ?
Inquiring readers want to know.
see ya
Bob
Come on Bruce .....spill the beans. ;)
The lights look great Tom. The local Hobby Lobby had discounted these a while ago and I bought a bunch and planned on using them on my Telephone Co. build. I need to finish that thread too.. :o :o
Quote from: bparrish on May 06, 2018, 03:44:52 AM
Bruce.............
I would say........... after your last post............ that
The sixties were good to you but................. you aren't that old. ! ! ! !
What is your evil plan ? ? ? ?
Inquiring readers want to know.
see ya
Bob
The evil plan Bob is to start working on a small structure that uses the light pole to light up the area next to the building. If all goes well I will also use it to post a forum thread here about its construction as I have never done a thread on this board (IE all my threads were on that other forum). So it's kind of a practice model project. Nothing earth shattering. I just need to recover a little bit more from some recent health issues first before I get started.
;D ;D ;D
Go for it Bruce.....looking forward to seeing your work again. :)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 04, 2018, 07:00:03 PM
Really nice lighting effects Tom. The light poles really punched up the BBQ scene.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciate you checking in on the lighting.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on May 04, 2018, 07:13:27 PM
Tom
The LED lighting really gives the structures another dimension. Very nicely done. It looks like I need to help Slim pay off the wedding bills. ;) ;D ;D ;D
John,
Thank you, LED lighting has changed everything in the hobby. Obviously much better than the old grain of wheat bulbs.
As you and I know, Slim will need all the help he can get for the wedding cost.
Tom ;D
Hi Tom:
The railroad is looking just fantastic. Love the scenes you have set up. Love the Barbecue and the fireworks shop.
Karl
Quote from: sdrees on May 04, 2018, 09:34:13 PM
Hi Tom,
The photo of the country store is really great Tom. And the lights really add to the layout different scenes. I guess I need to quit procrastinating and get some lights installed on my layout.
Steve,
Appreciate the comment, thank you. For the past several years when I build a structure, I add the LEDs at the time. If not, I make it easy to add them later in the construction of the lighting process. I made 18 LED and goose neck lights in advance of adding them to the current line of structures. It does save a little time.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on May 07, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Hi Tom:
The railroad is looking just fantastic. Love the scenes you have set up. Love the Barbecue and the fireworks shop.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you my friend for the kind compliment, much appreciate you stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on May 04, 2018, 11:00:24 PM
SWEET LOOKING LIGHTS!!! .I guess I am going to have to get my backside into gear and put lights in my buildings. They look awesome My friend. Keep up the great work.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
The LEDs have changed the entire look of the Atlantic and Southern RR. Thank you for the generous compliment on the lighting. This has been a fun part of the layout build.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 05, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
Uncle Tommie,
We must think alike because I just purchase the woodland senics plug and play light components for an evil model railroad project. I going to even be using that same light pole in my project. Their must be some sort of psychic connection between us. Maybe that's what happens when you drink so much Diet Pepsi that soon all us Diet Pepsi drinkers begin to think alike.
I must have another diet pepsi.....
I must have another diet pepsi....
I must buy a woodland senics light pole....
I must have another diet pepsi....
Cousin Brucie
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Diet Pepsi drinkers are all in one accord. And, I'm not talking about the Honda! 8) 8)
I must admit I'm impressed with the WS light poles and how they use a hub to join the lights. They even have the ability to dim the lights. I haven't used the hub but plan to try it later, maybe on the third level lighting.
Now, I'm gonna get a fresh cold Diet Pepsi.
Tom ;D
Quote from: madharry on May 06, 2018, 03:41:34 AM
Nice job on the lights Tom.
Mike :)
Mike,
Thank you very much. It has been a change from the normal layout build.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Raymo on May 06, 2018, 08:41:33 AM
The lights look great Tom. The local Hobby Lobby had discounted these a while ago and I bought a bunch and planned on using them on my Telephone Co. build. I need to finish that thread too.. :o :o
Dan,
Thank you. I've never seen these lights in the Hobby Lobby in my area. But then we only have 6 in the Central Fl. area and I've only been to one.
Now, get back to your thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 06, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
Nothing earth shattering. I just need to recover a little bit more from some recent health issues first before I get started.
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
I sent you a PM. Hope all is well.
Tom ;D
Today is the Judge's Birthday. So, Happy Birthday Judge.
Also, over the past week or so, I some how pulled my right hamstring. It hurt like he-- and I'm now in a compression brace. I have a bunch of anti inflammatory medication. I hate taking medication of any kind but I hate being laid up with the injury which has kept my appearance in the train room very limited.
Just wanted ya'll to know I'm still plugging away on the build.
I installed some LED lighting on the rural station and cracker house.
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More in a few.
I decided to tackle the lighting on the old Sinner's Mill. This structure is a Model Tech Studio kit. I renamed it Sinner's Mill as I felt like it was a sin to but a kit on the market with the instructions as bad as those were. I did add my own little changes as well.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518175324.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518175324.jpeg)
I removed the gooseneck light shades and support bars/arms.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171338.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171338.jpeg)
I decided to use these as they were. I used a #76 drill and drilled a small hole in the shade as close to the support arm as possible. I then painted the underside of the shade with Golden Fluid Acrylics Titanium White.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171353.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171353.jpeg)
Time for a cold Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
I added the LEDs to the shades and wrapped the wires around the arm and used CA glue to hold the wires in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171407.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171407.jpeg)
I used Floquil Weathered Black and painted the wires. When dry, I placed the gooseneck lights back on the structure.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171421.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171421.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how the goosenecks look. The structure is basically a back ground flat and sits 21.5 inches from the front edge of the layout.
The wires wrapped around the goosenecks can't be seen.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171450.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171450.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171436.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171436.jpeg)
More in a few.
This next photo is out of focus, sorry bout that.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171531.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171519.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171519.jpeg)
I also added a loading dock light.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171505.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070518171505.jpeg)
I didn't light the Sinners Mill sign as I thought it would not look good with all the lights.
If you had illuminated the "Sinners Mill" sign, you could use some spare space for a tent meeting (I've seen them in Florida) and use the offering/collection to offset the expenses of the empire construction. Just sayin'. 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 07, 2018, 08:04:41 PM
If you had illuminated the "Sinners Mill" sign, you could use some spare space for a tent meeting (I've seen them in Florida) and use the offering/collection to offset the expenses of the empire construction. Just sayin'. 8)
Chip,
Tent meetings are all over Florida but not on the A&S RR. I've had my fill of those types. Ever try to shut one down due to no permit?
It ain't fun.
Tom ;D
Tom,
On the latest series of photos. "attention-attention here's a profanity alert!" Nice f%@$*n job dude! Very cool & very realistic. Move over George, here comes Tom's AS. KP-out...
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 06, 2018, 09:00:56 PM
Go for it Bruce.....looking forward to seeing your work again. :)
Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully I will be back at it real soon.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 07, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 06, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
Nothing earth shattering. I just need to recover a little bit more from some recent health issues first before I get started.
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
I sent you a PM. Hope all is well.
Tom ;D
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I got the PM and will respond back real soon.
My thoughts and prayers are heading your direction my friend. Keep your chin up.
BTW, your You Tube videos look very nice on my 4K 65" TV!! :o
;D ;D ;D
Let there be light..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: tct855 on May 08, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Tom,
On the latest series of photos. "attention-attention here's a profanity alert!" Nice f%@$*n job dude! Very cool & very realistic. Move over George, here comes Tom's AS. KP-out...
Thom,
I appreciate the kind and generous compliment. However, George doesn't need to worry about me. He is the master of building all things structure wise.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 09, 2018, 11:57:51 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 07, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 06, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
Nothing earth shattering. I just need to recover a little bit more from some recent health issues first before I get started.
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
I sent you a PM. Hope all is well.
Tom ;D
Hi Uncle Tommie,
I got the PM and will respond back real soon.
My thoughts and prayers are heading your direction my friend. Keep your chin up.
BTW, your You Tube videos look very nice on my 4K 65" TV!! :o
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
All is well here with me and all things medical. I do however have a hamstring injury holding me back some little bit.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 10, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
Let there be light..... ;D ;D ;D
Can I get an Amen brother?
Tom 8)
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 10, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
Let there be light..... ;D ;D ;D
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dave
Hi Tom:
You did an excellent job with this kit. Like the colors and just how it came out.
Karl
Quote from: deemery on May 10, 2018, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 10, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
Let there be light..... ;D ;D ;D
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dave
Dave,
I wish I could do it like they do.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on May 11, 2018, 08:07:43 PM
Hi Tom:
You did an excellent job with this kit. Like the colors and just how it came out.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks very much, as always, your comments and support are appreciated. The Model Tech Studio kit wasn't easy but well worth the finished structure and effort.
Tom ;D
Well, I'm back at it full time again. I took a little sabbatical due to a sore back, pulled hamstring and overall a little general burn out of sorts.
Over the past several months I've been using my work benches for storage for all things railroad related. One afternoon I decided to go on an archaeological adventure and see what all projects I have on the work areas.
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More in a few.
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After cleaning up the work space, I rediscovered 8 projects in the works to some degree or other. This is as clean as it will get for now but at least I can see what all I need to get to and finish.
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I finished the LEDs in the structures at Caldwell Junction.
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I noticed Bill Parrish's truck backed up to the supply shed. He wasn't to be found.
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More in a few.
Found Bill but not sure what he is doing.
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Quote from: ACL1504 on May 14, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
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Dave,
I wish I could do it like they do.
Tom ;D
You just need to use the right stick!
dave
I'm 95% finished with adding LEDs to the structures on the second level. I say 95% as I counted 95 in or on the structures and I have 5 left to do. A great many of the LEDs came with the structures Reading Bob supplied for the Atlantic and Southern RR.
I can't remember who asked or sent a PM asking how the LEDs are wired to the layout. I decided to do a show and tell on how I do my wiring and the mini panels I use for turning on/off the LEDs.
This will be boring for some as it is basic railroad modeling and wiring. However, there may be some out there who will benefit from how I do mine.
I need to crop some pictures but will start the post later this afternoon.
Thanks for following along.
Quote from: deemery on May 14, 2018, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 14, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
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Dave,
I wish I could do it like they do.
Tom ;D
You just need to use the right stick!
dave
I hope an LED flashlight counts, if so, I can do it.
Great looking lighting Tom.
I'm going to keep this very simple and not write a Master's Thesis.
I have four small, I'll call them toggle panels, around the second level of the layout. These are used to turn on/off the lights/LEDs in the structures.
First, I determined where I wanted this fourth panel located. I chose a location next to the control panel for the northwest staging turnouts.
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More in a few.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 14, 2018, 04:36:15 PM
Great looking lighting Tom.
Curt,
Thank you for stopping by, much appreciate the support.
Tom ;D
Before anyone asks, here is what the inside of the turnout panel looks like.
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I then decided on a 6" wide by 9.25" high toggle panel.
I measured it on a scrap piece of Masonite and made the cut.
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More in a few.
I clamped the toggle panel in place and rechecked to make sure I had enough space for the toggles.
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The panel fit flush against the bottom of the second level but had no way to secure the top. I cut a piece of 1X1 and glued/screwed it to the bottom of the second level 1X4.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140518163020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140518163020.jpeg)
More in a few.
I drilled four holes in the panel, 2 top and 2 bottom. I then used a larger drill bit and made a little counter sink in the panel so the screws would fit flush when screwed to the layout.
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A cold Diet Pepsi is needed at this time. Back in a few.
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I'm using single pole - single throw toggles switches from Miniatronics. I had them on hand but any SPST toggle will work.
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More in a few.
I measured and centered an area for the toggle switches. At that time I drilled four holes.
I used a 7/32" bit to drill the holes.
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I'm using an 18 volt switching power supply from Ngineering. I got mine from Slim. You can certainly use a 12 power supply but due to the number of LEDs I have on this panel, I went with the 18 volts.
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Since that panel was installed, I've added two additional toggles as shown below.
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I've run out of time for today.
Tomorrow I'll explain and show how I turned on terminal strip into one that will handle up to eight sets of LED lights.
Not adding anything today. I re-injured my hamstring. Orthopedic Surgeon visit tomorrow morning. Not sure when I'll get back to this thread.
Tom :'(
Feel better buddy.
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
In the rain????
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2018, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
In the rain? ???
Jim
With thunder and lightning too! ;)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 15, 2018, 05:54:40 PM
Feel better buddy.
Curt,
Thank you for the well wishes. Much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
Yes, but the injury wasn't due to any yard maintenance. Just saying.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2018, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
In the rain? ???
Jim
Jim,
I have in the past but not in the past several years.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on May 16, 2018, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 16, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Good grief......did you mow the lawn again? ::)
In the rain? ???
Jim
With thunder and lightning too! ;)
It's a good thing you carry a 1 iron as God can't even hit the 1 iron.
Tom 8)
Since I still have an injured leg and can't work on the layout and very tired of laying in bed, I'll add a little more to the thread.
I used an 8 position dual row terminal strip for wiring the LEDs to toggle switches. Some terminal strips are rated 15 to 30 amps. For this exercise, I'm not sure it makes a difference and I don't know nor do I care to know what the amp rating is for this one. All I know is that I've used several and they work.
The way it is now, it won't work for the LEDs so I'm going to "kit bash" the terminal strip for my useful purpose.
I used a Dremel cut off disk and started to cut it length wise down the middle as shown below. By doing this, I'm cutting the common bar between the two screws.
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And here it is cut down the middle all the way.
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More in a few.
I then used a single strand of copper wire and pig tailed the terminal screws on each side of the strip.
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More in a few, definitely need a cold Diet Pepsi. 8)
You will need to decide what side you want the + and - to be. I usually make the top side the + one.
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I then screwed it in place behind the location of the toggle switch panel. Again, you can see I marked the top as +/positive.
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More in a few.
The power supply has a + and - wire. I tied a knot in the positive one and screwed the two wires to the right end of the terminal strip.
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You can see where I'm going here, I hope. By cutting the terminal strip down the middle, adding the power supply wires, I now have 8 individual terminal screws for the LED lighting. Actually, all the wiring can be done to the + and - screws but that would be a wiring mess.
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More in a few.
I used the first toggle switch for Sweaty Betty's and the Lubritorium. There are 10 LEDs in these two structures. I wired them per Slim's LED wiring diagram. I wired a red to the positive side of the LEDs and screwed the red to the top of the terminal. I used gray for the negative as I didn't have black when I wired the structures.
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The gray wire goes to the bottom terminal on the toggle as shown.
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More in a few.
I then cut a length of gray wire and wired one end to the center terminal on the toggle and the other end to the negative side of the large 8 position terminal strip as shown.
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You can see the toggles have two terminal stubs on the rear. I positioned the toggle so the bottom stub was on the bottom. This way when I flip the toggle in the "up" position, the lights come on.
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More in a few.
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These two structures are 32 feet from the toggle panel.
Continued in a few more.
I wired the rest of the structures in the same way. I have 12 structures and combined them into groups so that I used 6 toggles.
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More in a few.
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This is a very simple way to wire layout structure lighting. You can control how many structures you want on any one toggle switch.
I hope this was helpful to some if so let me know and I'll continue to detail how I do things. I know when I first started lighting, It was a task until I decided on this method of lighting my structures.
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Hey Tom yes continue. I know nothing abut lighting and will need it for my Machine Shop/Engine House.
Jerry
Excellent Tom. I have been thinking lately of how I'm going to wire the 10 lights for my current build and now I know. Thank you.
Quote from: Jerry on May 17, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
Hey Tom yes continue. I know nothing abut lighting and will need it for my Machine Shop/Engine House.
Jerry
Jerry,
Thanks for following along. If you need any help at all I'm just a phone call away.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2018, 04:32:38 PM
Excellent Tom. I have been thinking lately of how I'm going to wire the 10 lights for my current build and now I know. Thank you.
Curt,
Thank you buddy, much appreciated. This is as simple as it goes for wiring lights using toggles.
Tom ;D
Guess your next task is to write a computer program and plug all the LED's into the machine so lights can go on and off at different times in different structures. ;)
But we know, Superman can do it!
Think of my method of lighting as a buss line. The positive on one wire and the negative the other. The structure lights are wired parallel to the terminal screws.
I wired the layout LEDs in the same manner. I think it starts around page 130 or so.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on May 17, 2018, 04:45:42 PM
Guess your next task is to write a computer program and plug all the LED's into the machine so lights can go on and off at different times in different structures. ;)
But we know, Superman can do it!
Chip,
No computer program as I don't know how to do that and don't want to learn.
I do have some of Slims computer pads that will do it as you suggested - different times.
Appreciate you stopping by.
Tom ;D
Hamstring......hmm how was the injury caused? A case for Poiret, Barnaby or Morse maybe?
Mike :-X
Quote from: madharry on May 17, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
Hamstring......hmm how was the injury caused? A case for Poiret, Barnaby or Morse maybe?
Mike :-X
Mike,
Turned out not to be a hamstring but a minor tear of the Meniscus muscle on the inside of the left knee. :'(
Ortho Dr. said it can be cause by just twisting the knee under stress. Must have happened when I was laying the flooring in the new room addition.Although the above three are superior investigators, I had to go with someone more local. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
I haven't given up on the thread but have been severely slowed by the knee injury. I'm really behind on the photos as well.
Hopefully, I'll be able to add more later this weekend. I want to finish the Throw Back Thursday thread and get that one off my back.
I finished the third level bench work on the West side. It went fairly smoothly but I did need to solve one problem.
The area where the third level lift out will be wasn't going to work with the bracket on the back of the bookcase as shown below.
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The metal bracket is flush with the end of the bookcase and I had no easy way to attach the 1X3 end piece as I did with the second level as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518170923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518170923.jpeg)
More in a few.
To solve the issue, I started by removing the metal bracket. I then cut a piece of 1X1 from a spare piece of 1X3. I then glued and screwed this piece to the back of the bookcase. I forgot to take pictures of this but the next few photos will also give you the idea.
Also, I'd like to note here that you should drill a pilot hole in the small piece of wood like the 1X1. This will prevent the wood piece from splitting when the dry wall screw is screwed through the wood and into the structure/bookcase.
I then built the bench work base as I did with all the previous wall brackets.
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Note in the above photo I added the threaded steel rod for the corner support.
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More in a few.
Yes, it is still all level.
In the lower right of the below photo, you can see the 1X1 between the 1X3 and the back of the bookcase.
When the times comes, I feel bad my children will have to figure out how Dad screwed all this to the bookcase and walls. Maybe they can reverse read this thread.
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Diet Pepsi time again, be right back.
Tom ;D
Here is how I fed all the buss wires from the bench work 24" wide to the one that is only 9.5" wide. This third level follows the second level in the bench work shape, length and width.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171038.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171038.jpeg)
More in a few.
The bench work is now in place and secure to the wall and back of the book case.
Notice I cut a 1X3 cross piece to cover the buss wires in the corner? Actually, this cross piece supports the curved section of decking over this corner.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518170939.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518170939.jpeg)
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The plywood decking was cut and laid in place on the bench work. None of the decking is screwed to the bench work in any of the following photos.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171058.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171058.jpeg)
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Here's a better photo of the cross brace covering the buss wires and support for the decking.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171133.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171133.jpeg)
Also, here's a better photo of the end section showing the steel rod and 1X1 next to the back of the bookcase.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171148.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250518171148.jpeg)
More in a few.
As a sometime or less than often level headed person, did I ever mention it is a good thing to have all your bench work on the level?
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I also have all the LED lighting installed under this section on the West side. I'll show how it looks in the next few posts later next week.
Tom you have mad carpenter skills 8). I forget, is the bookcase a built in or a removable one?
Tom
Wow - look at all the new space to fill with all those wonderful kits you have stashed under the layout. The benchwork looks great.
Hi Tom,
You have done a very nice job on the benchwork and your wiring looks very neat.
Grand progress Tom..... 8)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 25, 2018, 07:16:57 PM
Tom you have mad carpenter skills 8) . I forget, is the bookcase a built in or a removable one?
Curt,
Thank you kind sir, I'm just trying to get it correct the first time around. Patience, patience and more patience.
The bookcase is free standing, er, well it used to be but now it is part of the layout and the layout is part of the bookcase. The book case and layout are both removable but it will be after my burial. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: S&S RR on May 25, 2018, 07:32:50 PM
Tom
Wow - look at all the new space to fill with all those wonderful kits you have stashed under the layout. The benchwork looks great.
John,
Yes, lots of new space for track and structures. At last count I have around 200+ unbuilt kits under the layout - some where.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on May 25, 2018, 08:02:41 PM
Hi Tom,
You have done a very nice job on the benchwork and your wiring looks very neat.
Steve,
Thank you, the benchwork was fun but I'm happy it's coming to and end. I'm Looking forward to some new track.
Wiring can be a nightmare if not planned correctly. I don't need to tell you how I have all this knowledge. :-X :-X
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 26, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Grand progress Tom..... 8)
Greg,
Yes, finally.
Tom ;D
All the plywood decking on the west side of the layout is now screwed to the benchwork, yea!
As I was working on the 9.5" wide section, I realized the space under the decking would be to tight for me to get under there and solder the track feeder wires to the buss wires.
I cut a six inch piece of wire, red and white, and soldered one end to the track buss wires. Now, when dropping the feeders in that area all I need to do is grab the wires, twist and solder them together. The soldered feeders can than be shoved up under the layout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260518160029.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260518160029.jpeg)
I had a short section of Masonite hardboard and clamped it to the side of the third level as shown below. I just wanted to see how it will look. The piece in the photo is 3.5". I'll be adding one that is 4.5" side.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260518160043.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260518160043.jpeg)
Love that mocked up shadow box effect! Hope I get a chance to come by one of these days
John
Tom,
Very nice progress on the upper level. Could you take a couple of pics with the lower lighting on in these shots please. Really can't wait to see track and scenery on the upper level. What's taking you so long?!!! Beautiful work my friend. You are obviously feeling better.
Frank / Erieman
Looking good Tom. Do not worry about the removal of the layout after...........just enjoy it now.
Mike ;)
Quote from: Cuse on May 26, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
Love that mocked up shadow box effect! Hope I get a chance to come by one of these days
John
John,
Thank you, come on by whenever you are in the area again. I think you will really like the second level lighting effect.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on May 26, 2018, 11:39:00 PM
Tom,
Very nice progress on the upper level. Could you take a couple of pics with the lower lighting on in these shots please. Really can't wait to see track and scenery on the upper level. What's taking you so long?!!! Beautiful work my friend. You are obviously feeling better.
Frank / Erieman
Morning Frank,
Thank you and yes, I'm feeling much better. I figured I'd get busy on the layout prior to another injury of something else that will keep me down. Seems like every time I get really motivated, my body puts me on a side track. :'( :'(
The only third level benchwork left is over the Suwanee River Lagoon.
I do have several new photos of the lighting under the new third level addition. I'll get them cropped and up later this afternoon.
Tom ;D
Quote from: madharry on May 27, 2018, 05:10:00 AM
Looking good Tom. Do not worry about the removal of the layout after...........just enjoy it now.
Mike ;)
Mike,
Thank you, much appreciated. Not really worried about the removal. My children have seen the layout and understand what needs to be done.
I have a file of how I did things so it will be easier to remove most of the dioramic scenes with little damage.
Always thinking ahead I guess.
Tom ;D
Heard a vicious rumor,
ACL 1504's neighbor drinks Coke. I bet they have lots to talk about. KP-out...
Hey Tom:
Love the two bridges. very nicely done across the river. Keep up the good work.
Karl
WOW Tom, you are really moving out. I will get over to see the new stuff soon.
Jim
Quote from: tct855 on May 27, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
Heard a vicious rumor,
ACL 1504's neighbor drinks Coke. I bet they have lots to talk about. KP-out...
blasphemy
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: tct855 on May 27, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
Heard a vicious rumor,
ACL 1504's neighbor drinks Coke. I bet they have lots to talk about. KP-out...
Thom,
Shame, shame and double shame as Gomer Pyle would say. Now go wash your mouth out with some very bitter soap like yo momma made you do when you said a nasty. :P :P
BTW, I don't even talk to my neighbors. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on May 27, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
Hey Tom:
Love the two bridges. very nicely done across the river. Keep up the good work.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you and much appreciated as always my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on May 27, 2018, 12:44:07 PM
WOW Tom, you are really moving out. I will get over to see the new stuff soon.
Jim
Butty Jim,
Thank you and yes I'm on the move. You are welcome to come by anytime except the next two Saturdays. I won't be home on those days.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 27, 2018, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: tct855 on May 27, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
Heard a vicious rumor,
ACL 1504's neighbor drinks Coke. I bet they have lots to talk about. KP-out...
blasphemy
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Not only blasphemy but could be anti something as well. 8) 8)
Please forgive Thom as he knows not the importance of what he said, or rather showed. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
The following three photos are of the area under the new section of the third level. In these photos the LEDs and the overhead lights are on.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153644.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153644.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153702.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153702.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153717.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153717.jpeg)
The next five photos are of the second level with only the LEDs and no over head lights.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153733.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153748.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153748.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153803.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153803.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153818.jpeg)
This next photo takes me to 3,500 total photos in the thread.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153833.jpeg)
Beautiful modeling.
Tom,
Your layout is fabulous, but.... your pictures are too small and do not allow us to appreciate it at its fair value :)
Thanks to hare it with us.
Eric Québec city
Never make fun of someone who speaks broken English. It means they know another language
Hi Tom:
Great photos. You have one of the best RR's I've seen. I really like it. Keep the photo coming.
Karl
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 27, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
Beautiful modeling.
Curt,
Thank you. I always appreciate your kind support and compliments.
Tom ;D
Quote from: EricQuebec on May 27, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
Tom,
Your layout is fabulous, but.... your pictures are too small and do not allow us to appreciate it at its fair value :)
Thanks to hare it with us.
Eric Québec city
Never make fun of someone who speaks broken English. It means they know another language
Eric,
Thank you for the kind and generous compliment on the layout. Larger photos take more time to load but I will experiment with a larger photo format so that you don't have to click on the photo to see the complete picture.
Thank you for the request, I will work on it.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on May 28, 2018, 10:29:27 AM
Hi Tom:
Great photos. You have one of the best RR's I've seen. I really like it. Keep the photo coming.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you, very much appreciated. I do have more photos on the way. Stay tuned.
Tom ;D
Since I was somewhat sidelined and playing Mr. Gimpy Leg, I decided to add water to the Suwannee River Lagoon area.
This is how the river basin looked prior to adding the water.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164507.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164507.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164523.jpeg)
More in a few.
After some research and use of other water effects products, I decided to go with Magic Water by Unreal Details.
https://www.unrealdetails.com/order-now-2 (https://www.unrealdetails.com/order-now-2)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164537.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164537.jpeg)
I used the water effects product from Woodland Scenics and wasn't happy with the results. It left a haze over the water.
I've used Envirotex in the past and although it looks great for a couple of years, over time it yellows and crystallizes as well.
I've seen great looking water and read many great/favorable articles on Magic Water, so I gave it a try.
I'll need to get a cold Diet Pepsi for the rest of this posting. ;D ;D
I also spoke with Dave Williams, owner of Unreal Water. I had a question or two about the product prior to using it. More on that conversation later in the thread.
I mixed the two parts, 1 part "A" to 2 parts "B" and mixed thoroughly for 10 minutes, let it sit a few minutes and then mixed another ten minutes. I then poured the first mix into the lagoon and mixed a second batch and poured that on the other end.
I'll skip straight to the photos here for ya.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164611.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164611.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164555.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164555.jpeg)
More in a few.
The Magic Water really brought out the color of the lagoon and I was very pleased with how it looked after drying.
It started setting after a few hours and was hard to the touch in 24 hours. I didn't have to move it around as it filled in under the docks while seeking it's own level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164642.jpeg)
Please don't feed the alligators Bridgette. Bridgette is the bridge tender for the bascule bridge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518164656.jpeg)
More in a few.
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518165321.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518165338.jpeg)
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That is truly outstanding Tom.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518121331.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518121331.jpeg)
The water looks great but I plan on having some water activity in the lagoon such as boats and maybe some swimmers. Can't have swimmer without a few alligators here in Fl. 8)
With water activity, the waters won't be smooth as glass as in the photos. This was part of my conversation with Mr. Williams.
He advised me that when the Magic Water is thoroughly dry, after a few days from the initial pouring. I want to add other water effects such as waves,etc.
He also said I could add the ripples/waves as the Magic Water set. I didn't want to stand around and do that for several hours.
He further stated that Mod Podge, clear silicone, gloss medium gels, etc can be used on the top for the desired effects.
I'll be using Mod Podge and follow Dave Frary's video on how he used the Mod Podge on the Seaport diorama.
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Of course I'll have pictures of this process as I go along.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 28, 2018, 01:43:05 PM
That is truly outstanding Tom.
Curt,
Thank you my friend, very much appreciate the generous compliment.
Tom ;D
Larger photo format test.
My normal photo size is 580pixels. It's small but large enough to see what I'm showing but not so large you need to click on it to make is smaller.
The next several photos are set at 1024 pixels.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141108.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141108.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141131.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141131.jpeg)
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1024 pixels -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141344.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-280518141344.jpeg)
Same photo at 580 pixels.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153912.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270518153912.jpeg)
Thanks for the many pictures Tom , the water already looks great , can't wait to see it with the modge podge.
Now we can see all details ... Fantastic...
Thank you tom.
Eric
Excellent as always Tom, from you we expect nothing less.
Tom, the layout just keeps getting better and better. Thanks so much for all the effort you put in to showing us. I can honestly say this thread is the one I check to see if there is an update everyday. I am almost disappointed when it hasn't been.
Tom
The water looks fantastic! I like the larger picture format. My 2 cents. I have been posting one picture per post with the larger format - it helps with the slower loading times.
Hi Tom,
The pictures really look great. A couple of weeks ago I read an article about envirotex and that it turns brown over time. So this is one I will have to remember in the future. You have done a very nice job on the layout with the water and everything else. Anxious to see what the Swanee River will look like after you get done with the Modpoge.
Great job Tom...it looks "right"! Thumbs up.
John
Neat.....can't wait to see it..... 8)
Tom just got caught up with this once again. Fantastic water!! Beautiful structures and scenes.
Jerry
Nice photos, I'll watch to see how you finish the water area.
Regarding Envirotex: my Rowley River (on a module I'll be bringing to Kansas City for the NTS) was poured ~20 years ago with a little blue/green tint in the third of four 1/8" layers. I mixed each pour thoroughly, but I doubt I spent more than 2-3 minutes. The color hasn't changed perceptibly. Another Hub module has a clear Envirotex stream about 3/4" deep; I never asked the owner exactly how he did it, but it hasn't color shifted in 12 or so years. But we do have a 25 year old pond on one of our corners which browned and curled a bit in its first 5 years. So it might be careful mixing, it might be thin layers, but I plan to use it for my remaining water areas.
Tom,
That's one heck of a nice layout !!!
Keep on sharing your fantastic modeling efforts.
Tommy
Quote from: Janbouli on May 28, 2018, 05:55:06 PM
Thanks for the many pictures Tom , the water already looks great , can't wait to see it with the modge podge.
Jan,
Thank you and you are welcome. I want to add a few boat wakes and water ripples.
Tom ;D
Quote from: EricQuebec on May 28, 2018, 05:56:18 PM
Now we can see all details ... Fantastic...
Thank you tom.
Eric
Eric,
You are welcome and thank you for following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 28, 2018, 07:29:54 PM
Excellent as always Tom, from you we expect nothing less.
Curt,
Thank you and now the pressure is on to keep going. Hope I don't slip and get lazy.
Tom 8)
Quote from: coors2u on May 28, 2018, 08:57:48 PM
Tom, the layout just keeps getting better and better. Thanks so much for all the effort you put in to showing us. I can honestly say this thread is the one I check to see if there is an update everyday. I am almost disappointed when it hasn't been.
Dustin,
Thank you for the very kind and generous compliment. It's good to see you on the forum as I know you've been a very busy family man. Thank you for following along, I do appreciate the support.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on May 28, 2018, 09:34:56 PM
Tom
The water looks fantastic! I like the larger picture format. My 2 cents. I have been posting one picture per post with the larger format - it helps with the slower loading times.
John,
Thank you for the kind words. I'll continue to use different size photos until I find one I can live with and yet be big enough for all to see. I may go to the 1 photo per posting before it over, I'll see how long it takes for each photo.
I was telling my Babe I may go to the smaller format for builds and use the larger format for the layout photos.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on May 28, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
Hi Tom,
The pictures really look great. A couple of weeks ago I read an article about envirotex and that it turns brown over time. So this is one I will have to remember in the future. You have done a very nice job on the layout with the water and everything else. Anxious to see what the Swanee River will look like after you get done with the Modpoge.
Steve,
Thank you. Mine turned brown after several years, of course I need to add this was the Envirotex of 20+ years ago. Don't know if the formula has changed. I'll keep everyone posted on the Mod Podge effect.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on May 29, 2018, 08:27:24 AM
Great job Tom...it looks "right"! Thumbs up.
John
John,
Thank you, much appreciate the support. Looking forward to your next visit.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 29, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
Neat.....can't wait to see it..... 8)
Greg,
You came, you saw and then you left! What do you think?
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on May 29, 2018, 11:40:37 AM
Tom just got caught up with this once again. Fantastic water!! Beautiful structures and scenes.
Jerry
Jerry,
Thank you for the kind compliment on the layout including the water. This has by far been the most fun layout I've ever built.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on May 29, 2018, 01:17:06 PM
Nice photos, I'll watch to see how you finish the water area.
Regarding Envirotex: my Rowley River (on a module I'll be bringing to Kansas City for the NTS) was poured ~20 years ago with a little blue/green tint in the third of four 1/8" layers. I mixed each pour thoroughly, but I doubt I spent more than 2-3 minutes. The color hasn't changed perceptibly. Another Hub module has a clear Envirotex stream about 3/4" deep; I never asked the owner exactly how he did it, but it hasn't color shifted in 12 or so years. But we do have a 25 year old pond on one of our corners which browned and curled a bit in its first 5 years. So it might be careful mixing, it might be thin layers, but I plan to use it for my remaining water areas.
James,
I mentioned to Steve that mine did go brown after several years. Not sure it was my mix or the fact it was done back in the mid '80s. By 1990 the water was brown. Not sure of any formula changes since then.
I'd like to add that the envirotex water shown below, three gallons, was done in the late 70's and looked nice and clear after 10 years. These photos were taken a few years after the pour.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290518190907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290518190907.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290518190919.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290518190919.jpeg)
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on May 29, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
Tom,
That's one heck of a nice layout !!!
Keep on sharing your fantastic modeling efforts.
Tommy
Tommy,
Thank you, very much appreciate the kind compliment. I'll keep sharing as long as I have followers who enjoy it or get something from my efforts.
Tom ;D
It was mid afternoon on May 29, 1950. The skies got dark and the water very still. ACL train #7 had just crossed the Suwannee River Lagoon bascule bridge. The engineer tooted at Bridgette, the bridge tender, when the storm hit.
This train was a long mixed freight with another one to follow.
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ACL 1504,
Yes! Love the full movie effects of your layout video brother. I feel like I owe you $8.00 plus where's the milk duds and popcorn? ha. Thanx Thom...
That's neat as hell Tom. How did you do the thunder and lightning?
The Boss and I were invited to visit today and met Tom and Greg Demayo. What a great time! These two guys are fantastic and truly made us feel at home. The storm scene is even cooler in person! I won't steal Tom's thunder (pun truly intended) on how he set it up but it is impressive, as is the entire layout. Having modeled less than a year I was frankly overwhelmed at the complexity and thought put into the layout. I came away with a new appreciation of what can be accomplished and that, when done at Tom's level of ability, it looks more like art than modeling. Thanks for taking so much time and sharing the wonder of your on-going creation from both Deb and myself.
Quote from: Jim Donovan on May 29, 2018, 09:42:00 PM
The Boss and I were invited to visit today and met Tom and Greg Demayo. What a great time! These two guys are fantastic and truly made us feel at home. The storm scene is even cooler in person! I won't steal Tom's thunder (pun truly intended) on how he set it up but it is impressive, as is the entire layout. Having modeled less than a year I was frankly overwhelmed at the complexity and thought put into the layout. I came away with a new appreciation of what can be accomplished and that, when done at Tom's level of ability, it looks more like art than modeling. Thanks for taking so much time and sharing the wonder of your on-going creation from both Deb and myself.
I enjoyed meeting another denizen of the forum and the "Boss" yesterday.....and I'm glad y'all had such a good time. Looking forward to meeting up again in the near future. :)
Tom,
you have outdone yourself with the thunder and lightning. Kudos to you my friend. Simply marvelous. Okay, spill the beans, what did you use to get the effects? I want something like this by the steel mill that I am working on. Simply marvelous.
Frank / Erieman
Tom
Just fantastic. Love it!
Awesome water work Uncle Tommie. That "Magic Water" stuff truly lives up to its name!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 29, 2018, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 29, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
Neat.....can't wait to see it..... 8)
Greg,
You came, you saw and then you left! What do you think?
Tom ;D
Another fun focal point for your empire.....when you figure out how to get the gremlins out. ;D
Loved the progress and the look of the 3rd level you've completed so far. Really anxious to see the first 10' of the 3rd level center section. :)
Quote from: tct855 on May 29, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
ACL 1504,
Yes! Love the full movie effects of your layout video brother. I feel like I owe you $8.00 plus where's the milk duds and popcorn? ha. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you kind sir, I also serve Diet Pepsi. I noticed the LEDs, when picked up by the camera lens, look bluish. Don't know how to change it. Looks better when viewed without looking through the camera.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 29, 2018, 09:28:57 PM
That's neat as hell Tom. How did you do the thunder and lightning?
Curt,
Thank you, I'll explain it all after I finish answering all the posts.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jim Donovan on May 29, 2018, 09:42:00 PM
The Boss and I were invited to visit today and met Tom and Greg Demayo. What a great time! These two guys are fantastic and truly made us feel at home. The storm scene is even cooler in person! I won't steal Tom's thunder (pun truly intended) on how he set it up but it is impressive, as is the entire layout. Having modeled less than a year I was frankly overwhelmed at the complexity and thought put into the layout. I came away with a new appreciation of what can be accomplished and that, when done at Tom's level of ability, it looks more like art than modeling. Thanks for taking so much time and sharing the wonder of your on-going creation from both Deb and myself.
Jim,
Thank you for the very generous compliment on the layout. We enjoyed the visit with you and Deb(the Boss) very much. I appreciate you driving down to see the Atlantic and Southern RR.
I look forward to seeing you both when you are back in Florida.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on May 30, 2018, 04:52:51 PM
Tom,
you have outdone yourself with the thunder and lightning. Kudos to you my friend. Simply marvelous. Okay, spill the beans, what did you use to get the effects? I want something like this by the steel mill that I am working on. Simply marvelous.
Frank / Erieman
Afternoon Frank,
The lightning and thunder is something I've been waiting to do for the past two years. I'll show you how after these next few posts.
And, I very much appreciate the kind words on the stormy weather. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on May 30, 2018, 05:33:41 PM
Tom
Just fantastic. Love it!
John,
Thank you, very much appreciate you following the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on May 31, 2018, 04:45:40 AM
Awesome water work Uncle Tommie. That "Magic Water" stuff truly lives up to its name!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Thank you for the support and compliment on the water. To be honest I was a little hesitate to pour it but in the end all my fears were all for naught.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 31, 2018, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 29, 2018, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 29, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
Neat.....can't wait to see it..... 8)
Greg,
You came, you saw and then you left! What do you think?
Tom ;D
Another fun focal point for your empire.....when you figure out how to get the gremlins out. ;D
Loved the progress and the look of the 3rd level you've completed so far. Really anxious to see the first 10' of the 3rd level center section. :)
Greg,
Thank you for the input and feedback. It's always good to have another pair of eyes to see the layout. I did in fact figured the out the gremlins.
I worked on the third level this afternoon. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
Tom ;D
The thunder and lightning is nothing more than a Broadway Limited Imports item.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518162529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518162529.jpeg)
BLI currently has them for sale at $129.99.
http://www.broadway-limited.com/1598lightningandthunderaccessoryforany-scalelayout.aspx (http://www.broadway-limited.com/1598lightningandthunderaccessoryforany-scalelayout.aspx)
They also have a reconditioned one for 87.09.
http://www.broadway-limited.com/hoscale.aspx (http://www.broadway-limited.com/hoscale.aspx)
I got mine about two years ago for around $100.00.
More in a few.
If you've already watched the BLI video on the thunder and lightning, you'll notice the LEDs in the kit are only about 18 inches long. My lagoon is right at 9 feet long.
I used the same Cool White LEDs I'm using for the second level lighting. I cut two lengths at 8 ft. and glued them to a 3/4" wide piece of Masonite/hardboard. I then screwed them to the inside edge of the two 2X3's I'm using for the third level benchwork.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165056.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165056.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut a piece of plywood, marked the speaker diameter and drilled holes in the plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165129.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165129.jpeg)
The speaker was screwed to the back of the plywood. I also used a piece of white cardboard for a cushion between the speaker and plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165114.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165114.jpeg)
More in a few.
I mounted the speaker under the staging area with is also under the main channel of the lagoon.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165303.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165303.jpeg)
Time for a Diet Pepsi, back in a fewl.
The speaker is 5.5 inches high and definitely wasn't going to fit under the third level, nor the second level.
The LED wires needed to be screwed to the rear of the speaker. The only solution I had to run the wires was to do so by cutting into the scenery to the left of the Smokehouse BBQ.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165203.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165203.jpeg)
To make it easier to run/pull the wires behind and through the scenery, I ran the two sets of wires through two separate brass tubes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165147.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165147.jpeg)
I used the brass tubes to position the wires over the hole behind the scenery photo backdrop. I then fished the wires through the hole.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165220.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165220.jpeg)
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Continued in a few.
I fed the wires through a large brass tube which was inserted into the scenery base.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165248.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165248.jpeg)
These wires were screwed to the back of the speaker per the instructions.
The other end of the wires were run up along the inside of the 1X3s and soldered to the LEDs.
The activator button was attached to a thin section of Masonite which is also located under the lagoon. The black button is the T&L activator and the three toggles are for the bascule bridge marker lights and the lights at the Smokehouse BBQ.
The track is a programming track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518165318.jpeg)
More in a few.
I made sure all worked and then replaced the scenery.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518172605.jpeg)
Sweet! That Thunder and Lightning effect looks great in that area of the layout. The video is super. 8)
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 01, 2018, 03:04:30 PM
Sweet! That Thunder and Lightning effect looks great in that area of the layout. The video is super. 8)
Bob,
Thanks for the compliment. The thunder and lightning was all along intended for the lagoon area. I appreciate you checking in.
Tom ;D
I have a quick update on the third level over the second level island. I did finish the first 8 feet of this level.
Also, with the larger photo format, I'm gong to try John S's method of one photo per post. The larger photos do take longer to load. But honestly, I think one photo per post takes longer as well. We'll see.
I built the third level center section in place. That is I first added the north/south long horizontal boards and then added the east/west braces.
I started by screwing two 3X10's to the top of the third level. I added the 3/8" steel bars for support at this time.
I then drilled holes in the center braces for the buss wires and then pulled the buss wires.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170559.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170559.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170616.jpeg)
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I then added the LEDs down the middle as I did on the rest of the layout.
The benchwork is level but the camera makes it look otherwise.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170646.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170702.jpeg)
For me it is absolutely critical that it all be level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170716.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170716.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170730.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170730.jpeg)
Back in a few, I need a Diet Pepsi and to crop/load two additional photos.
Well, after cropping the two photos, I can see some of the new work I've done. I'm getting ahead of myself on the thread. I'll show the two photos tomorrow afternoon after I update the thread. Then I'll be up to date. 8) 8)
Sorry bout dat! ;D ;D :-X
The Diet Pepsi is good and cold though.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 01, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
I then added the LEDs down the middle as I did on the rest of the layout.
The benchwork is level but the camera makes it look otherwise.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010618170646.jpeg)
Tom
Trust your instruments - the camera and sometimes our eyes can miss lead us. I took some photographs of the inside of my Locomotive Works, yesterday. The pictures make it look like the track is kinked inside the second bay. I put a ruler on it today and it is dead straight.
As John said:
You're making good progress building this level. Looks great (and level). :)
Jeff
I need to get Tom and his crew to come up ti Virginia and help me out with a layout problem. I thought I had a curve with enough radius 33" to handle my new Rapido New Haven passenger cars. In spite of checking all the car trucks and adding long shank couplers they don't make it. Guess I' Going to tear up some track and expand the radius even more. OH the frustrations of a modeler. At least the weather is so lousy that I don't want to be outside. Have a good day. Jim
By the way Raymo, did you get that second shipment of Jordans awhile back?
Hi Tom:
Lot of nice new bench-work and I love the lift bridge and its surrounding structures.
Keep up the fine modeling work.
Karl
Just a reminder.....measure at least twice, (more is better), and cut once..... ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 02, 2018, 01:40:23 PM
Just a reminder.....measure at least twice, (more is better), and cut once..... ;D
........Level first, then cut.
Greg is one of the ones who cut the board off twice,..... and it is still too short :o :o
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on June 02, 2018, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 02, 2018, 01:40:23 PM
Just a reminder.....measure at least twice, (more is better), and cut once..... ;D
........Level first, then cut.
Greg is one of the ones who cut the board off twice,..... and it is still too short :o :o
Jim
I don't think so James..... ;)
Quote from: S&S RR on June 01, 2018, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 01, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
I then added the LEDs down the middle as I did on the rest of the layout.
The benchwork is level but the camera makes it look otherwise.
Tom
Trust your instruments - the camera and sometimes our eyes can miss lead us. I took some photographs of the inside of my Locomotive Works, yesterday. The pictures make it look like the track is kinked inside the second bay. I put a ruler on it today and it is dead straight.
John,
I use the level several time during one work session. I saw what you mean on the LW track. I think it looks fine but the retaining wall makes it look off.
Thanks for stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 02, 2018, 08:25:13 AM
You're making good progress building this level. Looks great (and level). :)
Jeff
Jeff,
Yes, I've been busy and thank you for checking in on the progress.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on June 02, 2018, 09:57:06 AM
I need to get Tom and his crew to come up ti Virginia and help me out with a layout problem. I thought I had a curve with enough radius 33" to handle my new Rapido New Haven passenger cars. In spite of checking all the car trucks and adding long shank couplers they don't make it. Guess I' Going to tear up some track and expand the radius even more. OH the frustrations of a modeler. At least the weather is so lousy that I don't want to be outside. Have a good day. Jim
By the way Raymo, did you get that second shipment of Jordans awhile back?
Jim,
I had an issue with the Walthers 86 ft. cars when I first tried them on the 36" radius curves. I did as you did and checked the trucks and couplers. I used Kadee long and medium shank couplers to solve the problem. I used the long shank on the front and the medium shank on the rear of each car. This solved my problem. I appreciate you checking in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on June 02, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
Hi Tom:
Lot of nice new bench-work and I love the lift bridge and its surrounding structures.
Keep up the fine modeling work.
Karl
Karl,
I've been very busy with the new benchwork. The bascule bridge came from Erieman, Frank Baker.
Thank you for the very kind compliment on the work.
Tom ;D
Greg and Jim,
Do I need to send you boys to the corner? If not play nice. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I worked in the yard instead of the layout today. I'll post some new updates tomorrow afternoon.
Tom ;D
Thanks Tom I'll try that combo. Jim
Hi Tom,
Longtime lurker here. I've been MIA for the last 6 months or so but I finally caught up with your thread. The contrast from the previous version of the AS to the current version is striking. I've never been to your part of the country but you definitely are capturing the southeastern vibe to my eyes. It's awesome!
I may have missed this earlier, did you plug the structure LED's into the same power packs you are using for the overhead LED's? The $14 powerpacks from Amazon?
I love all the detailed tutorials & pics.
Thank you!
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 03, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
Greg and Jim,
Do I need to send you boys to the corner? If not play nice. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Okaaaay..... :(
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 03, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
Greg and Jim,
Do I need to send you boys to the corner? If not play nice. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Well.............
Jim
Quote from: Bobby on June 03, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
Hi Tom,
Longtime lurker here. I've been MIA for the last 6 months or so but I finally caught up with your thread. The contrast from the previous version of the AS to the current version is striking. I've never been to your part of the country but you definitely are capturing the southeastern vibe to my eyes. It's awesome!
I may have missed this earlier, did you plug the structure LED's into the same power packs you are using for the overhead LED's? The $14 powerpacks from Amazon?
I love all the detailed tutorials & pics.
Thank you!
Bobby,
It's good to see you back Bobby. Hope all is well on your end and you were just taking a break.
Thank you as well for the very kind compliment. There is a drastic difference between the old and the new version of the A&S RR. This one is much more enjoyable and fun to operate.
In reference to the LED lighting in the structures, the answer is no. However, you can though. I plan on using one of them for the third level LED lighting. I believe one of the $14.00 ones can power up to around 1,000+ LEDs. Well, that is what the advertisement stated.
You tube is full of videos on how to do it.
Tom ;D
I have the first 8 ft. section of the third level decking in place. I'll show this later in the thread.
I next removed the section I marked as the St. Johns River located on the second level.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165206.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165206.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut the buss wires and removed the cross support braces.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165223.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165223.jpeg)
I then used the saber saw and removed the side 1X4's.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165237.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165237.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165254.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165254.jpeg)
I then measured (2x) and cut (1x) two 1X3's and screwed them to the sides under the existing 1X4's. These new 1X3's now support the the St. Johns River plywood base.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165311.jpeg)
More in a few.
Cutting out the river base left a 3 inch gap between the top and the 1X4. I was going to cut a small piece of plywood and glue/screw it in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165553.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165553.jpeg)
I then decided to just move the entire 8 foot section down the 3 inches.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165608.jpeg)
More in a few.
Done and done.
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Diet Pepsi time folks.
Here is how the first section of the third level island looks.
The second level LEDs are off so it appears dark, which it is.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165136.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040618165152.jpeg)
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
This afternoon I decided what FSM and FOS kits I would definitely not use on the layout. I came up with 9 FSM and 4 maybe 5 Limited Run FOS kits.
I'll check some prices on Ebay and then list them on the forum first. My prices will be less than Ebay. The $$, if any sell, will go back into the A&S RR. I want to sell them not go crazy on the prices but I won't give them away either.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
Greg,
You definitely will go to the corner. I have just the spot complete with dunce cap.
Tom 8)
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
Greg,
You definitely will go to the corner. I have just the spot complete with dunce cap.
Tom 8)
I'll go quietly to the corner.....but I don't do caps. ::)
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 05, 2018, 08:25:47 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
Greg,
You definitely will go to the corner. I have just the spot complete with dunce cap.
Tom 8)
I'll go quietly to the corner.....but I don't do caps. ::)
Greg,
You are no fun but don't worry, I have plenty left over from my misspent youth. I'll gladly give you one. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
Greg,
Looks like someone has finally figured out what to do with Greg.
I also have some extra caps from long ago that could be used.
Jim
You definitely will go to the corner. I have just the spot complete with dunce cap.
Tom 8)
I do agree, that is a lot of blank plywood, But it is also a lot of blank canvas to work on.
Carry on my friend. I will watch even from the corner with Greg.
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on June 05, 2018, 02:38:23 PM
I do agree, that is a lot of blank plywood, But it is also a lot of blank canvas to work on.
Carry on my friend. I will watch even from the corner with Greg.
Jim
I'll go along with you Jim.....we have to play nice with the guy or we won't be invited back. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 05, 2018, 08:41:18 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 05, 2018, 08:25:47 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 04, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 04, 2018, 05:17:17 PM
That's s lot of bare plywood.....no track, structures or scenery.....you must be slacking again. ;D
Looks great..... 8)
Greg,
You definitely will go to the corner. I have just the spot complete with dunce cap.
Tom 8)
I'll go quietly to the corner.....but I don't do caps. ::)
Greg,
You are no fun but don't worry, I have plenty left over from my misspent youth. I'll gladly give you one. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
I bet you do.....okay, I'll play nice (but I still don't do caps). :)
Jim and Greg,
Yous guys will have to stand in the middle, I forgot I don't have any room in the corners. ???
Tom ;D ;D ;D
This morning the center island of the second level looked like this.
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More in a few.
After some plywood and benchwork adjustments, the second level in the center took on a whole new look.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050618161509.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050618161509.jpeg)
More in a few.
While moving and consolidating railroad stuff into fewer boxes, I rediscovered all my back up Floquil paint.
I think I'm down to around 275 unopened bottles.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050618161454.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-050618161454.jpeg)
Yes, it is level on all levels.
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Continued in a few.
I decided to check to make sure, a little late at this point, that the center and west third level are level.
Whew, they are.
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Quote from: ACL1504 on May 31, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
The thunder and lightning is nothing more than a Broadway Limited Imports item.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518162529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-310518162529.jpeg)
BLI currently has them for sale at $129.99.
http://www.broadway-limited.com/1598lightningandthunderaccessoryforany-scalelayout.aspx (http://www.broadway-limited.com/1598lightningandthunderaccessoryforany-scalelayout.aspx)
They also have a reconditioned one for 87.09.
http://www.broadway-limited.com/hoscale.aspx (http://www.broadway-limited.com/hoscale.aspx)
I got mine about two years ago for around $100.00.
More in a few.
Tom,
I showed this to Phyllis and she loves it. Happy Fathers day to me!!. I'll be ordering this next week. I have a perfect place for this. Awesome execution, my friend.
Frank / Erieman
Morning Frank,
Happy you for the Happy Father's Day Thunder and Lightning. You won't be sorry. It is a very neat effect on the layout and isn't your typical toy like animation.
Oh, and thank you for the compliment.
Tom ;D
You guys have really got me interested in the lighting and thunder effect. Question: are you using the rolling thunder subwoofer or just the speakers that come with the kit in the picture? I'm thinking of adding it behind the mountains so the thunderstorm is on it's way or just moving on to the other side of the mountains. I'm at the maybe stage right now.
Quote from: S&S RR on June 07, 2018, 03:20:10 PM
You guys have really got me interested in the lighting and thunder effect. Question: are you using the rolling thunder subwoofer or just the speakers that come with the kit in the picture? I'm thinking of adding it behind the mountains so the thunderstorm is on it's way or just moving on to the other side of the mountains. I'm at the maybe stage right now.
John,
I'm only using the speaker that came with the T&L kit. I have a sub woofer and really couldn't tell any noticeable difference. What I have in the video is only the speaker from the kit and it sounds just fine.
I don't feel the added expense of the sub-woofer $249.00 is worth the effect.
The T&L in the mountains will be a fantastic addition to your already fantastic layout.
Tom ;D
I need to instill my BLI thunder ang lightning. Tom gives me some motivation.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 07, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Morning Frank,
Happy you for the Happy Father's Day Thunder and Lightning. You won't be sorry. It is a very neat effect on the layout and isn't your typical toy like animation.
Oh, and thank you for the compliment.
Tom ;D
Good Morning Tom,
Rolling Thunder has been ordered. Looking forward to having this effect on the layout. It will be in the new section by the steel mill. I'll post pics on my thread as this project proceeds. Have a great weekend and keep up your progress on your beautiful layout.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: jrmueller on June 08, 2018, 10:05:25 AM
I need to instill my BLI thunder ang lightning. Tom gives me some motivation.
Jim,
Go ahead and install the T&L. One warning though, when you do, you'll find yourself pushing the button a great many times. It is that cool.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on June 08, 2018, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 07, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Morning Frank,
Happy you for the Happy Father's Day Thunder and Lightning. You won't be sorry. It is a very neat effect on the layout and isn't your typical toy like animation.
Oh, and thank you for the compliment.
Tom ;D
Good Morning Tom,
Rolling Thunder has been ordered. Looking forward to having this effect on the layout. It will be in the new section by the steel mill. I'll post pics on my thread as this project proceeds. Have a great weekend and keep up your progress on your beautiful layout.
Frank / Erieman
Afternoon Frank,
You will love the T&L effect. I think over the steel mill complex will be a great spot for it. Looking forward to the photos.
I've been very busy on the layout and will post some updates in a few minutes.
Tom ;D
I extended the center island benchwork. Here is the first section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153410.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153410.jpeg)
More in a few.
I won't bore ya'll with all the benchwork stuff so I'll fast forward and here it is.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153425.jpeg)
The post in the center comes out so I can get the saw.
More in a few.
This end section will be the area for the turntable and nine stall roundhouse.
I didn't waste any time getting it started.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153441.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153441.jpeg)
I used the round house floor and marked the outline. I did this in order to position it correctly in relation to the turntable.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153454.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153454.jpeg)
More in a few.
When the roundhouse was used on the old layout, I used 1/2" Homosote. This allowed me to cut the Homosote so the pits could be recessed and the flooring to fit flush with the top of the Homosote.
As you can see I'm not using Homosote now. This created a minor problem with the flooring of the round house.
I previously glued the pits to the underside of the flooring per Walthers instruction sheet. I used several, 20 #11 new blades to be exact, and carefully sliced the pits from the nine stalls. This was about a four hour project.
I then positioned the roundhouse floor back in place and this is when I drew in the pit lines seen above.
I used a jig saw and cut out the pits from the plywood. I re-glued one of the pits to the flooring for a test fit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153529.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153529.jpeg)
The pit on the left is glued in place and you can see the cut outs for the others.
More in a few. I need a Diet Pepsi just thinking about the time spent removing the pits. ;D ;D ;D
You have probably noticed the round house is in various stages of disassembly. This thing has been moved, boxed, reboxed and moved several times. I have a small box of parts that have come apart and several repairs to make. I'll make those repairs as I reassemble the roundhouse.
First; however, I plan to change the color scheme of the interior posts. I'll also be adding LEDs to each stall as well.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153510.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153510.jpeg)
More in a few.
The line around the roundhouse is the center line for a 24.5" reverse loop/runaround track.
Here again is the same photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153510.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153510.jpeg)
More in a few.
All nine stall pits were glued to the respective floor part and the entire roundhouse, well the entire floor parts, were test fit for a final time.
It all fit as planned.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153646.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153709.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153723.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153736.jpeg)
Here is the CAD drawing Greg did for this end of the center section.
As you can see I have 2' to 2' 6" for isle space. This decision came after much thought and then I said I'll be the one out here most of the time so I don't need more isle space. This seems tight but remember this is a two person layout and not built for the masses.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618160719.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618160719.jpeg)
Actually, there is plenty of space to move around.
Here is a view from above showing the isle space.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618160733.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618160733.jpeg)
I have a neat trick a carpenter showed me some 60+ years ago. I'll share it with ya'll tomorrow.
A neat trick?
Let me guess! Measure twice, cut once and then go back and cut a new piece because you forgot to carry the one. Ha, I know, I'm a nincowpoop! KP-out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGD69Q9rz3M
P.S. Terrific job so far my friend!!!!!!!!!!
I've never been able to get such neat straight line cuts with my jigsaw!! Is there a trick to this?
dave
Great job and extremely impressive on the speed you're moving at. I don't remember if the second level to the right had the circular area in it previously or is that to make more room to get by?
Tom
Love it! You are moving right along - I love it when a plan comes together. BTW - I watched your thunder and lighting video again and ordered the unit. I have a couple subwoofers off old computer systems that I will try - just to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip/idea. Frank told me today that he ordered one, too.
Tom looks great. Looking forward to the next part.
Jerry
Wow! I hope you'll be around next week...I'll be a little more free with my schedule and would love to see what we've been visualizing for a while now. Looks great!
John
Tom - I should take a short vacation more often! Very impressive progress! I think it was a good decision to put the steam engine facility at the far end of the second level and build the town of Tahope to the south of it (closer to the south end of the shed). I was worried that a nine-stall roundhouse might not fit, but the photos show it fits nicely. No diesels at this facility!
For those who follow Tom's thread, the A&S has a small diesel facility on the second level next to the ovalix. It services/repairs "short diesels" like F units and GP7's. There will be a major service/repair diesel facility on the third level. It will handle larger diesels (E units).
Quote from: tct855 on June 08, 2018, 05:15:01 PM
A neat trick?
Let me guess! Measure twice, cut once and then go back and cut a new piece because you forgot to carry the one. Ha, I know, I'm a nincowpoop! KP-out...
P.S. Terrific job so far my friend!!!!!!!!!!
Thom,
I appreciate the kind words on the work. The tick may not be all that great to some or even many; however, as a 10 year old boy I was impressed.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on June 08, 2018, 06:03:37 PM
I've never been able to get such neat straight line cuts with my jigsaw!! Is there a trick to this?
dave
Dave,
My lines really aren't that straight but straight enough so they look straight. All the experts say to clamp a guide board next to the outer edge of the jigsaw and use it as a straight edge for cutting. But I'm assuming you are referring to cutting a jigsaw line freehand.
Since I had 9 stalls and 18 lines to cut I didn't want to take the time to position and clamp all the lines 18X. The cut outs for the pits were 1/4" wide so I cut just outside the lines. I also drilled a 3/8" pilot hole for the jigsaw blade.
My trick for cutting straight lines and circles with the jig saw is to let the blade do the cutting with only slight guidance from me. I've found that if I'm in a hurry and try to push the saw as it cuts, the blade wavers and I fall off the cutting line.
In this case however, I didn't care if a missed a little as the cutout portion would not show at all. The trick is to go slow and watch the line as the blade cuts. This is what I practice.
I hope this helps.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 08, 2018, 07:21:03 PM
Great job and extremely impressive on the speed you're moving at. I don't remember if the second level to the right had the circular area in it previously or is that to make more room to get by?
Curt,
Thank you my friend. If I can send the Judge off somewhere more than once in a while, I'll get the move on!
Just kidding, er, no I'm not. Well, just a little.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on June 08, 2018, 10:11:54 PM
Tom
Love it! You are moving right along - I love it when a plan comes together. BTW - I watched your thunder and lighting video again and ordered the unit. I have a couple subwoofers off old computer systems that I will try - just to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip/idea. Frank told me today that he ordered one, too.
John,
Thank you, it was a fun project.
You won't be sorry for getting the T&L kit. It really adds a little more realism to the layout.
Let me know how the sub woofers work for you. I couldn't tell a difference.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on June 09, 2018, 12:13:29 AM
Tom looks great. Looking forward to the next part.
Jerry
Jerry,
Much appreciated kind sir. It will be a few days. Other than the circle trick.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on June 09, 2018, 08:15:12 AM
Wow! I hope you'll be around next week...I'll be a little more free with my schedule and would love to see what we've been visualizing for a while now. Looks great!
John
John,
Thank you, much appreciated. Yes, you need to see the latest updates all the way. It's been almost a year.
I plan on being here all week, I have a lunch date with my childhood buddy Thursday at 11AM and the Babe and I are taking a little trip on Friday morning and will be back Sunday.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on June 09, 2018, 11:01:29 AM
Tom - I should take a short vacation more often! Very impressive progress! I think it was a good decision to put the steam engine facility at the far end of the second level and build the town of Tahope to the south of it (closer to the south end of the shed). I was worried that a nine-stall roundhouse might not fit, but the photos show it fits nicely. No diesels at this facility!
For those who follow Tom's thread, the A&S has a small diesel facility on the second level next to the ovalix. It services/repairs "short diesels" like F units and GP7's. There will be a major service/repair diesel facility on the third level. It will handle larger diesels (E units).
Bill,
Thanks for stopping by for a look see and posting a few comments. I figured you'd be surprised at the progress.
Take as many little vacations as you can handle. 8) 8) 8)
I'll see you on the 23rd.
Tom ;D
My father was a General Contractor from the 1950's until his election as the 29th Mayor of Orlando in 1967.
One day he had one of his company carpenters at the house repairing on of the circular light ornaments on the ceiling. As a 10 year old, I watched everything he/they (carpenters) did and even got to know several by name. I even watched the painters paint. It was all oil paint and turpentine back then. I loved the smells.
On this one day, he drew a rough circle on a large piece of 1 X 10. I think he used the lid of a gallon paint can but memory doesn't serve me well on this adventure. He said he would show me a trick on how he was going to draw a larger second circle using straight lines. He took either a 1X2 or 1X3 and cut it to around 3 inches in length.
He placed one edge of the piece of wood on the outside edge of the circle and then drew a pencil line the length of the wood piece as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153547.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153547.jpeg)
He left a small gap between the lines as he moved around the circle.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153601.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153601.jpeg)
More in a few.
He then used the wood piece to fill in the blank spaces. Again, using the wood piece against the inner circle and drawing the line on the out edge of the smaller wood piece.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153615.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153615.jpeg)
Here is how mine looked when finished.
It looks like a circle but put a straight edge to it and it will show only short straight lines.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153632.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153632.jpeg)
More in a few.
By the way, I used this straight line circle as the circular edge of the roundhouse area.
In the photo below, you can see my inner circle and the edge of the layout where I cut on the outer straight line circle. I used the jigsaw for the cutting and went slow and followed the outer line.
I was impressed then and am still impressed at the knowledge of finish carpenters.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153441.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153441.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153425.jpeg)
Hey Tom:
Cool Time to put the roundhouse in. Can't wait to see that.
Karl
Looking good Tom.....glad the steam engines will have a neat home on the new A&S. 8)
Quote from: postalkarl on June 10, 2018, 10:09:06 AM
Hey Tom:
Cool Time to put the roundhouse in. Can't wait to see that.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you my friend. Ask and receive.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-080618153709.jpeg)
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 10, 2018, 05:19:05 PM
Looking good Tom.....glad the steam engines will have a neat home on the new A&S. 8)
Greg,
Thank you sir. Plenty of room for steam engines.
Tom ;D
I'm taking a break from benchwork and going back to some scenery on the middle second level.
I want to also get the roundhouse back in good order and figure where I want the supporting building in the roundhouse area.
Today I repainted the roundhouse interior posts with Tamiya Sky Gray. It dries a little darker than when wet. I also used Polly Scale Pacemaker Red for the bottom of the posts.
Before:
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162152.jpeg)
More in a a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162208.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162208.jpeg)
After:
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162224.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162224.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162238.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162238.jpeg)
More in a few.
I'll let the paint set for a few days and then use A&I for the weathering on the posts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162250.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-110618162250.jpeg)
Tomorrow I'll show ya'll some of the wonderful, most natural looking, super trees I've ever seen. They were made my Master Tree Modeler Kris Cutler. They are literally one of a kind and second to none. No Brag, Just Fact!
Tom
ACL 1504,
Beautiful work my friend! I see stars when I watch! Thanx Thom...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZMTifa3tkI
Really nice painting the bottom supports red. I never thought to do that when I built mine.
Tom that is going to be one hell of a roundhouse. Your work is excellent.
Jerry
Quote from: tct855 on June 11, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
ACL 1504,
Beautiful work my friend! I see stars when I watch! Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by, sparks and all.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 11, 2018, 08:10:08 PM
Really nice painting the bottom supports red. I never thought to do that when I built mine.
Curt,
Thank you. It was a tedious job. Most of the supports were glued in place and I needed to get the brush down between the support posts to paint on the red. :P
It took a few hours to finish the nine stalls.Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on June 12, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
Tom that is going to be one hell of a roundhouse. Your work is excellent.
Jerry
Jerry,
Thank you as well, very much appreciate the compliment. I can't wait to get some steam power in the stalls but a lot of work needs to be done first.
Tom ;D
I'd like to share some photos of Kris Cutler's super super trees by Scenic Express, er, I mean by Kris.
She has taken making trees to a level of which I'm not familiar. The work and bark detail is amazing and professionally done. I'm certainly very honored she wanted to make the trees for the Atlantic and Southern RR.
I won't go into any detail on how she made the trees as she and Bill may do a thread in the future the distance future. Note I said may, so ya'll hold down the encouragement.
Here are only a sample of the trees and some close ups of the trunks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180243.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180243.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180258.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180313.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180328.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180358.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180343.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180413.jpeg)
Sorry, but I didn't see the blue foam until I enlarged the photo. It dusted off just fine.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180425.jpeg)
I spent several hours working in the yard, 1:1 yard, this morning and on the roundhouse this afternoon. More on that and photo update tomorrow.
I'm finished for the day and not only that I'm done.
She does beautiful work.
Beautiful trees.
Jerry
Awesome trees.
Jim
Chris is the best.....looking forward to a tutorial on how to make these great looking trees. 8)
The trunks and the bark are sensational.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 12, 2018, 07:27:14 PM
She does beautiful work.
Curt,
Yes, her trees are truly a work of art. Thanks for checking the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 12, 2018, 11:21:01 PM
Awesome trees.
Jim
Jim,
I thought you were out cutting the grass. Oh, wait, you have moved on and passed the torch to another.
I know Kris appreciates the very kind and generous comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 13, 2018, 04:05:06 PM
Chris is the best.....looking forward to a tutorial on how to make these great looking trees. 8)
Greg,
Yes, she is. Oh, only after my Babe and yours. I like where I live. 8) 8) Her trees ain't bad either.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on June 13, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
The trunks and the bark are sensational.
Jan,
Thank you, I wish you could see them in person. They are certainly better than my little camera shows.
Appreciate you stopping by and posting your comment.
Tom ;D
Yesterday I started work on the roundhouse restoration. I numbered all the stalls 1-9. In the photo below I lost my mind and reversed the numbers. Of course, when the roundhouse floors are in place, #1 is on the left and #2 is on the right.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193219.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193219.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193233.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193233.jpeg)
More in a few.
I'll fast forward here 5 hours and show I have five out of nine stalls restored.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193501.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193501.jpeg)
I'll hold off installing the doors until I get the roundhouse tracks installed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193519.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193519.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193541.jpeg)
As you can see the interior is dark. I plan on lighting the interior with LEDs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193616.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193616.jpeg)
In the above picture you'll note the holes drilled in the top beams. These are guide holes for the .032" brass buss wires.
In the photo below, you can see where I reamed out two .032" in the side of the wall just below the roof panel.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193631.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193631.jpeg)
Here is how it will look with the buss wires installed.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193646.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193646.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here I've soldered the ends of the brass wire together.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193720.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193720.jpeg)
Since the smoke funnels interfere with the buss wires, I removed them. I'd rather have the LED lighting than the smoke funnels. But then I can always move them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193700.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193700.jpeg)
More in a few.
It is amazing how many tools accumulate during a work session.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193734.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130618193734.jpeg)
Time for a Diet Pepsi and end the night.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 13, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
It is amazing how many tools accumulate during a work session.
Time for a Diet Pepsi and end the night.
Too bad the tools don't put themselves away!
dave
Great progress Tom. That is a neat idea with the brass wiring. It sure looks more real than a lot of dangling wires.
Quote from: deemery on June 13, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 13, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
It is amazing how many tools accumulate during a work session.
Time for a Diet Pepsi and end the night.
Too bad the tools don't put themselves away!
dave
Dave,
Yes, it would be nice and then just maybe I could find them when needed. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 14, 2018, 09:19:14 AM
Great progress Tom. That is a neat idea with the brass wiring. It sure looks more real than a lot of dangling wires.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated. There will be a total of 36 LEDs in the roundhouse ceiling.
Tom ;D
Work on the roundhouse restoration continued yesterday. I got two more stalls fixed and in place by noon.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152202.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152202.jpeg)
Later in the day I finished the remaining two stalls.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152218.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152218.jpeg)
More in a few.
In the photo above you'll see the right wall in place. It isn't secure. Here in lies a problem and decision I needed to make concerning using this wall.
I want to have the interior seen by visitors. If I leave the wall in place and make it removable, this brings another issue to the front.
Here is an interior view of the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152233.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152233.jpeg)
More in a few.
There are nine stalls and eight sets of interior support posts. The two outside walls act as supports for the roof panels.
So, nine stalls and eleven roof supports. Remove a wall and there is no support for the outer side roof panels.
I need to use one or the other but both won't fit in place. In the next photo you can see a set of supports next to the wall section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152349.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152349.jpeg)
Since I'm also using the brass wires as electrical conduits for the LEDs the outer wall section won't work.
More in a few.
I made the decision to forgo the right wall section. I'll use the support posts for the roof panels and support for the brass wires.
This will work -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152405.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152405.jpeg)
This won't work -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152334.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152334.jpeg)
Continued in a few. Diet Pepsi time.
Here is how the roundhouse will look without the side wall section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152429.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152429.jpeg)
It's dark inside without the lights!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152429.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152429.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152500.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152500.jpeg)
I guess I can always lean the wall section against the posts. No, I tried it and it doesn't look good at all.
Extra photos.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152252.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152252.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152319.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-140618152319.jpeg)
No more updates until next week. I'm leaving early in the AM to visit Cliff Powers and the Historic Mississippi, Alabama and Gulf.
I know the roof is in 3 sections, could you leave off the back side roofing to see inside? Another option is not to glue down the roofing panels so they could be removed when so desired.
On my CM roundhouse, I got small but strong magnets (1/16 diameter). I glued one to the roof and another to the wall in several locations. The problem I had was getting a strong enough bond to keep the wall magnets from sticking to the roof when I removed the roof.
dave
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 12, 2018, 06:18:38 PM
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120618180313.jpeg)
Thanks for the kind words about Kris's tress. She loves doing them. She is working on more for the ACL as we speak.
Bill
Hey Tom:
As I said before this will be a great looking scene. Tell Kris here trees are excellent.
Karl
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 14, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
I know the roof is in 3 sections, could you leave off the back side roofing to see inside? Another option is not to glue down the roofing panels so they could be removed when so desired.
Curt,
Yes, all the roof sections are removable. Only the sky lights, rear and north walls are glued in place. Appreciate the input.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on June 14, 2018, 06:20:19 PM
On my CM roundhouse, I got small but strong magnets (1/16 diameter). I glued one to the roof and another to the wall in several locations. The problem I had was getting a strong enough bond to keep the wall magnets from sticking to the roof when I removed the roof.
dave
Dave,
Great idea and it sounds like your magnets are to strong. My panels are kept in place by gravity. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: PennsyJ1 on June 16, 2018, 04:55:34 AM
Thanks for the kind words about Kris's tress. She loves doing them. She is working on more for the ACL as we speak.
Bill
Bill and of curse Kris,
The praise is well deserved. I'm very honored, as I mentioned earlier, to have her realistic looking trees on the A&S RR.
Tom ;D
I finished the brass conduits for the rear of the roundhouse. I used 5mm warm white floods for the LEDs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174240.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174240.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174155.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174155.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 17, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: deemery on June 14, 2018, 06:20:19 PM
On my CM roundhouse, I got small but strong magnets (1/16 diameter). I glued one to the roof and another to the wall in several locations. The problem I had was getting a strong enough bond to keep the wall magnets from sticking to the roof when I removed the roof.
dave
Dave,
Great idea and it sounds like your magnets are to strong. My panels are kept in place by gravity. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
I needed to pull some 'warpage' out of the roof, so that's why they're strong. You could definitely find weaker magnets, like those in magnetic business cards. Michaels and other craft stores have an assortment of magnets, if you can find them. Definitely worth thinking about for your removable wall.
dave
Dave,
Okay, I misunderstood what you meant. Did the strong magnets work on the warp issue?
Thin paper magnets is certainly a consideration, thanks.
Tom ;D
To hide the power wires, I cut a short length of 3/32" brass tubing and glued it on the inside of the post as shown.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174516.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174516.jpeg)
I used four brass tube sections.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174531.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174531.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then marked on the floor where the holes needed to be drilled.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174546.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174546.jpeg)
The holes were drilled through the floor and plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174600.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174600.jpeg)
The brass tubing was painted to match the posts. The post assembly was then set in place for a test fit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174615.jpeg)
I also used a tooth pick and marked red paint on the brass wire to indicate the positive (+) conduit when the wires are powered.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170618174628.jpeg)
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 17, 2018, 05:49:34 PM
Dave,
Okay, I misunderstood what you meant. Did the strong magnets work on the warp issue?
Thin paper magnets is certainly a consideration, thanks.
Tom ;D
Yeah, they did. (I used 1/32" plywood for the subroof, and all the sheets I could find had a bit of a warp.) Once I solve the problem of gluing the wall magnets -permanently- to the wall (which will include some space between wall and roof magnets, to reduce the magnetic attraction), I should be Good to Go. This project is on long-term hold, until I build the part of the new layout where the roundhouse & turntable will go.
I like your idea for running current up the walls to the ceiling. I may steal that when I get back to my roundhouse. :-)
dave
Quote from: deemery on June 17, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
I like your idea for running current up the walls to the ceiling. I may steal that when I get back to my roundhouse. :-)
dave
Yep , same as I was thinking, such a great idea.
Such a beautiful layout, Tom! You are truly an artist. Can't wait to see the MA&G box car riding the rails of the A&S!!
Quote from: deemery on June 17, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 17, 2018, 05:49:34 PM
Dave,
Okay, I misunderstood what you meant. Did the strong magnets work on the warp issue?
Thin paper magnets is certainly a consideration, thanks.
Tom ;D
Yeah, they did. (I used 1/32" plywood for the subroof, and all the sheets I could find had a bit of a warp.) Once I solve the problem of gluing the wall magnets -permanently- to the wall (which will include some space between wall and roof magnets, to reduce the magnetic attraction), I should be Good to Go. This project is on long-term hold, until I build the part of the new layout where the roundhouse & turntable will go.
I like your idea for running current up the walls to the ceiling. I may steal that when I get back to my roundhouse. :-)
dave
Dave,
Glad to hear the warp issue was fixed. By all means, use any and all ideas you get from the thread. Sharing is what this forum is about.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on June 17, 2018, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: deemery on June 17, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
I like your idea for running current up the walls to the ceiling. I may steal that when I get back to my roundhouse. :-)
dave
Yep , same as I was thinking, such a great idea.
Jan,
I appreciate you stopping by. Running the wires down the brass tubing is sure much neater than trying to glue them to the inside of the posts and then through the holes.
Tom ;D
Quote from: maandg on June 18, 2018, 03:03:06 PM
Such a beautiful layout, Tom! You are truly an artist. Can't wait to see the MA&G box car riding the rails of the A&S!!
Cliff,
Thank you for the very kind and most generous compliment on the layout. This layout was inspired by visiting your beautiful Magnolia Route. I owe it all to you my friend.
I didn't waste any time interchanging the MA&G boxcar on the A&S RR.
It is the second freight car behind the ABA ACL units in the 35 car train.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173318.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173318.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173332.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173332.jpeg)
I was at the Dentist Office most of the morning so work today is slow.
I got all the brass conduits installed and soldered end to end.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173357.jpeg)
I must be getting old. I forgot it's Diet Pepsi time here.
Back after a cold one.
I also got the next row of LEDs wired. I need to call Slim and order more LEDs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-180618173411.jpeg)
Order placed with Slim Jerkins. I hope they are the fire proof LEDS.
Following along, admiring the progress.
At one point, my ex bought a can of 'magnetic paint' which she never used. Good thing, as the web tells me it takes 6+ coats vs. the 3 the label recommends. Maybe I will try it on a structure, though it sounds like the attraction wouldn't be strong enough to undo a warp like Dave's magnets.
You never can tell with Slim.....he does get mischievous on occasion. ;D
Quote from: jbvb on June 18, 2018, 10:27:17 PM
Following along, admiring the progress.
At one point, my ex bought a can of 'magnetic paint' which she never used. Good thing, as the web tells me it takes 6+ coats vs. the 3 the label recommends. Maybe I will try it on a structure, though it sounds like the attraction wouldn't be strong enough to undo a warp like Dave's magnets.
James,
I've heard that the magnetic paint isn't very magnetic out of the can. Maybe it's a good thing she didn't use it on the marriage. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 19, 2018, 08:50:24 AM
You never can tell with Slim.....he does get mischievous on occasion. ;D
Greg,
I'd say more often than not. Just saying.
Tom 8)
Today I attached the fascia around the roundhouse turntable area. I also set and tested the turntable. It actually still worked after being placed in a box for the past 4 years.
Photos possibly tomorrow.
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 20, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 19, 2018, 08:50:24 AM
You never can tell with Slim.....he does get mischievous on occasion. ;D
Greg,
I'd say more often than not. Just saying.
Tom 8)
I was trying to be good.....my Dad told me never to kick a man when he was down.....although he never said you couldn't needle him a bit when he wasn't quite vertical. ;D ;D ;D
I did one install of the turntable/roundhouse track yesterday.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160729.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160729.jpeg)
Back later this afternoon, the Babe needs me to do something. :-X
Okay, false alarm, I'm needed to help move furniture later.
Today I cut an area for the steam loco ash bit. It will span three tracks and have an area for a conveyor belt to load ashes into a gondola.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160747.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160747.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160820.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160820.jpeg)
More in a few.
I set the coaling tower over the tracks as a reference only. It will be located closer to the turntable.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160806.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240618160806.jpeg)
After measuring thrice and cutting once, I had the cut out for the ash pit. I'll determine the depth of the pit later tomorrow.
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More in a few.
I forgot to mention I cut four corner pilot holes for the saber saw blade when cutting the ash pit. However, there is a neat trick I learned on how to cut out a square without drilling a pilot hole by using the saber saw.
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I also marked an area where the gondola will be loaded with ashes.
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More in a few.
When I cut out the ash pit, the plywood around the hole was a bit loose. Meaning it moved to much up and down.
I cut a length of 1X4 and also cut out a notch for the gondola ramp. In the photo below, the area where I have the carpenters square is the area needing support.
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The 1X4 was screwed in place. You can see the notched area in the left center of the photo.
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More in a few.
The depth of the gondola ramp will be determined along with the ash pit depth.
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Now, I'm waiting for the tools to put themselves up. ;D ;D ;D
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Very bad electrical storm outside so I'm shutting down.
Back for more updates tomorrow.
Tom, this is going to be a great looking area! Can't wait to see the details you add...
Tom,
I copy what DR said. You are building a really awesome layout with perfect construction techinque with outstanding pictorial and modeled scenes that damn well better be emortilized in every magazine. Having said all that, I'm glad you are a very unattractive man like me, otherwise I would have to complain about how unfair life really is. Truth hurts I know. ha. KP-out...
Looking good Tom.....don't let the little people fall in the pit..... ;D
As always, looking great my friend!
;D ;D ;D
Had to laugh when I saw the picture with all the tools strewn about. Hit a little to close to home. ;D
Jeff
Quote from: Raymo on June 25, 2018, 06:30:24 AM
Tom, this is going to be a great looking area! Can't wait to see the details you add...
Dan,
Thank you, I'm getting excited about detailing the area and fitting in certain structures.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on June 25, 2018, 07:31:45 AM
Tom,
I copy what DR said. You are building a really awesome layout with perfect construction techinque with outstanding pictorial and modeled scenes that damn well better be emortilized in every magazine. Having said all that, I'm glad you are a very unattractive man like me, otherwise I would have to complain about how unfair life really is. Truth hurts I know. ha. KP-out...
Thom AKA: KPI,
First, thank you for the kind words and compliment. I'm working on the magazine aspect as well.
Secondly, you are like my good friend Greg of Gregory DeMayo fame. You just don't realize when you banter with me you will ultimately loose in the end.
Reference my looks, I may be 72 years of age but I'm still 200 lbs. of twisted blue steel, rough, tough, hard to buff and damn good looking! I'll bet your mirror fogs up when you step into view.
And, since we are bantering back and forth in all good fun, I have a suggestion for you. Brush up on the badinage skills and get back to me. As I once told my sister, whom I love to hate and hate to love, I've been insulted by professionals and you sis, are no professional.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 25, 2018, 08:35:42 AM
Looking good Tom.....don't let the little people fall in the pit..... ;D
Greg,
Thank you sir. No little people have been harmed in any way, yet.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 25, 2018, 09:04:46 AM
As always, looking great my friend!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Thank you very much my friend. Have a Diet Pepsi on me.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 25, 2018, 09:07:37 AM
Had to laugh when I saw the picture with all the tools strewn about. Hit a little to close to home. ;D
Jeff
Jeff,
Ain't it the truth. I start a project and all of a sudden the tools come out to play. Then they don't want to leave.
Tom ;D
I worked on the ash pit area this afternoon.
The bottom and sides were glued in place. The pit will actually be lined with scale 8x8s as well as the gondola pit.
Here is the pit area from yesterday.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250618165942.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250618165942.jpeg)
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More in a few.
I cut strips of plywood and glued them to the underside of the pit area. When dry I then glued and screwed a piece of plywood to the bottom for the ash pit floor.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250618170020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-250618170020.jpeg)
When I line the pit area, I'll also build an I-beam support for the rails. The ties will eventually be removed.
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More in a few.
Here are just some photos of the area. I've been placing the water columns, water tank and coaling tower in different spots. I definitely won't be dedicating this much space to the area.
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ACL 1504,
Me guess' I hit a nerve on my pragmatist friend with my affront of reality. One could easliy tell your 72 year young heart pumps just fine to the point it lets you woolgathering a little too much. (just sayin')
Also you should accede putting a pinball spring loaded plunger under the layout where the gon sits at a low angle. Wouldn't it be cool to see if an operator can score a couple points when picking up the car. ha.
Nice work my friend! KP-out... P.S. speaking of looking in the mirror. I gots a face only a blind mother could love!
Having seen the layout it is even more impressive to see how much you accomplish in such a short time. Enjoying the updates.
Often the prototype tried to speed things up by doing two steps at once - cleaning the fire while filling the tender with water was fairly common. Did southern prototypes steam-clean locomotive running gear on the inbound engine tracks? It was common in New England; to model it you need wood slat platforms beside the tracks and some sort of shed to store the steam lances and hoses.
Great work so farTom.
Quote from: jbvb on June 25, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
Often the prototype tried to speed things up by doing two steps at once - cleaning the fire while filling the tender with water was fairly common. Did southern prototypes steam-clean locomotive running gear on the inbound engine tracks? It was common in New England; to model it you need wood slat platforms beside the tracks and some sort of shed to store the steam lances and hoses.
And the hose was handy if there was a concern about the coals starting a fire (burning the cribbing timbers?)
dave
Quote from: tct855 on June 25, 2018, 07:18:45 PM
ACL 1504,
Me guess' I hit a nerve on my pragmatist friend with my affront of reality. One could easliy tell your 72 year young heart pumps just fine to the point it lets you woolgathering a little too much. (just sayin')
Also you should accede putting a pinball spring loaded plunger under the layout where the gon sits at a low angle. Wouldn't it be cool to see if an operator can score a couple points when picking up the car. ha.
Nice work my friend! KP-out... P.S. speaking of looking in the mirror. I gots a face only a blind mother could love!
Thom,
Great job on the homework. You certainly have your waggery going. I guess Landa loves the face as well.
I appreciate the comments on the layout. The ash pit isn't finished as I have many details to make it look right. Stay tuned for those updates.
KPII ;D
Quote from: Jim Donovan on June 25, 2018, 08:48:45 PM
Having seen the layout it is even more impressive to see how much you accomplish in such a short time. Enjoying the updates.
Jim,
Thank you for the compliment, much appreciated. Lots of new stuff to see when you and Deb return.
BTW, I did get your email but haven't taken the time to answer. It may be easier for me to call with the info, very easy to do.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on June 25, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
Often the prototype tried to speed things up by doing two steps at once - cleaning the fire while filling the tender with water was fairly common. Did southern prototypes steam-clean locomotive running gear on the inbound engine tracks? It was common in New England; to model it you need wood slat platforms beside the tracks and some sort of shed to store the steam lances and hoses.
James,
The water columns will be near the ash pit. I'm not sure how the southern railroads used the inbound tracks. I only have the Prince books to go by and they aren't that much help. However, on the A&S RR, the plan is clear and unambiguous for steam locos.
I appreciate you stopping by for a look and comment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 26, 2018, 11:08:14 AM
Great work so farTom.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated as always.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on June 26, 2018, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: jbvb on June 25, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
Often the prototype tried to speed things up by doing two steps at once - cleaning the fire while filling the tender with water was fairly common. Did southern prototypes steam-clean locomotive running gear on the inbound engine tracks? It was common in New England; to model it you need wood slat platforms beside the tracks and some sort of shed to store the steam lances and hoses.
And the hose was handy if there was a concern about the coals starting a fire (burning the cribbing timbers?)
dave
Dave,
I plan on having concrete blocks lining the ash pit. Thanks for checking in.
Tom ;D
Thom, James and Dave brought up some great points in regards to the ash pit area. They are ahead of my thread as I planned to share my ideas as I built the pit area. So, more on my detailing later in the build thread concerning the ash pit.
Today, I finished the pit area. I added a piece of photo board to the bottom. I also made a small piece on the edge of the pit for the wheels on the conveyor. I still need to add the concrete blocks to the sides.
A final adjustment was made to the gondola ramp. I made it low enough to clear the conveyor but not so low it was buried in the pit area.
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Great work Tom. A question I have (I have never modeled a ash pit) is I assume that the 2 tracks over the pit is where your steamers will dump their ash pans. Do RR workers push or shovel those ashes to the edge for the conveyor?
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 26, 2018, 07:37:41 PM
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Who sunk the gondola? ::)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 26, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
Great work Tom. A question I have (I have never modeled a ash pit) is I assume that the 2 tracks over the pit is where your steamers will dump their ash pans. Do RR workers push or shovel those ashes to the edge for the conveyor?
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. On the A&S RR, the ashes are moved to the edge via an horizontal Archimedes' Screw to the conveyor belt. Of course you won't see it due to all the ash. 8) 8) 8) Workers will push the left over ash to the the screw.
Tom
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Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 08:01:35 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on June 26, 2018, 07:37:41 PM
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Who sunk the gondola? ::)
That would be moi! ;D ;D ;D
Will the Gondola have a stop or will it just hit the wall ?
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on June 27, 2018, 01:36:16 PM
Will the Gondola have a stop or will it just hit the wall ?
Jim
Jim.....the A&S spares no expense for safety.....the stop will be installed soonest. ;D ;D ;D
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Greg you are too much. :o
Quote from: jimmillho on June 27, 2018, 01:36:16 PM
Will the Gondola have a stop or will it just hit the wall ?
Jim
Jim,
I plan on using Hayes wheel stops for the gondola ramp.
Ignore Greg's response.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on June 27, 2018, 01:36:16 PM
Will the Gondola have a stop or will it just hit the wall ?
Jim
Jim.....the A&S spares no expense for safety.....the stop will be installed soonest. ;D ;D ;D
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Greg,
Very good one my friend. This is something I'd do as well. Love it!
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 27, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
Greg you are too much. :o
Curt,
Now aren't you glad you met all these guys? I did tell you we were a bit different, okay, a lot different. :P
Tom ;D
Several years, maybe more than that like 2005, I made some retaining wall blocks. I cut off the bottom of Woodland Scenics tunnel portal and made a rubber mold (RTV) of several pieces.
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I didn't have any Hydrocal so I used regular patching plaster.
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More in a few.
After drying, I removed the blocks and stacked a few against the wall for a look see.
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I then removed them in order, applied a bead of Elmer's glue to the bottom and worked my way up. I applied a bead of glue for each row.
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More in a few.
Gondola ramp area. I had to remove Greg's door stop first! ;D ;D
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Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Main pit finished.
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Waiting on more blocks to dry. This project will be finished tomorrow.
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Quote from: ACL1504 on June 27, 2018, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 27, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
Greg you are too much. :o
Curt,
Now aren't you glad you met all these guys? I did tell you we were a bit different, okay, a lot different. :P
Tom ;D
Speak for yourself Langford.....Pegi says I'm boringly normal.....most of the time. ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Speak for yourself Langford.....Pegi says I'm boringly normal.....most of the time. ;D
Like Abby Normal?
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Really nice detail Tom.
Quote from: deemery on June 27, 2018, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Speak for yourself Langford.....Pegi says I'm boringly normal.....most of the time. ;D
Like Abby Normal? [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc)[/size]
dave
Darn close Dave.....but I wouldn't want to incriminate myself, so I'll say nutthinnn. :o
That gondola looks like a tight squeeze with the stone walls. Better have a no clearance sign for the car riders. :)
Jeff
Really like the blocks in the gondola pit.👍🏻👍🏻
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 27, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
Really nice detail Tom.
Curt,
Thank you, much appreciated as always.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 28, 2018, 08:50:37 AM
That gondola looks like a tight squeeze with the stone walls. Better have a no clearance sign for the car riders. :)
Jeff
Jeff,
Yes, tight squeeze and signs will be posted. Like John said, "It's the details that count."
Tom ;D
Quote from: Dave K. on June 28, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Really like the blocks in the gondola pit.👍🏻👍🏻
Dave,
Thank you, much appreciate you stopping by.
Tom ;D
I'm using Evergreen Polystyrene I-beams for the track supports over the ash pit.
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I cut slots in the blocks for the I-beams.
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More in a few.
I removed 14 ties from the code 83 ME track and glued a section of I-beam to the bottom of the rail.
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I then cut short pieces of I-beam and glued them under the track I-beam for the I-beam supports. The track was then placed in the pit for a test fit. Nothing glued at this time.
So far so good.
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More in a few.
Of course the track MUST be level.
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Diet Pepsi time, back later this afternoon.
I added the rest of the vertical I-beam supports and did a final test fit.
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More in a few.
The tracks were removed and the blocks were stained with Hunterline Driftwood A&I.
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The I-beams were painted with Floquil Weathered Black. I added a brass wire between the rails as a rail stabilizer.
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More in a few.
Again, the tracks were removed and white glue was painted on the bottom of the ash pit. I then spread my father's ashes in the pit. No, not HIS ashes, but ashes from his fireplace. Mom and Dad had a mountain retreat in the mountains near Maggie Valley, NC. I've had these ashes for at least 20 years.
I figured one day I'd need real ashes.
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More in a few.
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The brass wire and rails were painted with Floquil Rail Brown. Ashes were then dabbed on with a soft bristle brush.
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More in a few.
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The three ash pit tracks were then spiked in place. These tracks were then aligned with the turntable and spiked in place.
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Looks great but I have a question - You said you added brass wire between the rails as a rail stabilizer. Are these electrically isolated or are the rails not hot? :o
Looks great. The wheels roll over the wires alright?
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 28, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
Looks great but I have a question - You said you added brass wire between the rails as a rail stabilizer. Are these electrically isolated or are the rails not hot? :o
My thoughts also.......looks like a short circuit to me :o :o :o :o
Jim
Very nice indeed!
Jerry
Tom: For all the projects you've done, do you "just know" what and how to do them, is it experiences from previous layouts, or do you research/collaborate with others?
I'm always blown away by how you engineer a project, the relatively rapid time you complete it in, and the fidelity and workmanship displayed. If it's contagious, I need to detour your way my next time down to visit Mom and breathe the air around you.
Larry.
Tom,
As usual in your journey, an impressive feature for the railroad. But, as others have pointed out, styrene rod might have been a better choice to keep the rails in gage.
Bob
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 28, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
Looks great but I have a question - You said you added brass wire between the rails as a rail stabilizer. Are these electrically isolated or are the rails not hot? :o
Bob,
Thank you, please check later for my response to all the concerns about the brass rods.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 28, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
Looks great. The wheels roll over the wires alright?
Curt,
Thanks, yes, I tested several brass locos and the wheels had no "bump" from the brass wires. Refer to the thread later this morning.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on June 28, 2018, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on June 28, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
Looks great but I have a question - You said you added brass wire between the rails as a rail stabilizer. Are these electrically isolated or are the rails not hot? :o
My thoughts also.......looks like a short circuit to me :o :o :o :o
Jim
Jim,
Well, yes and no on the short circuit issue. Follow me later this morning.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on June 28, 2018, 10:01:53 PM
Very nice indeed!
Jerry
Jerry,
Thank you, much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on June 29, 2018, 09:10:40 AM
Tom: For all the projects you've done, do you "just know" what and how to do them, is it experiences from previous layouts, or do you research/collaborate with others?
I'm always blown away by how you engineer a project, the relatively rapid time you complete it in, and the fidelity and workmanship displayed. If it's contagious, I need to detour your way my next time down to visit Mom and breathe the air around you.
Larry.
Larry,
Good to see you my friend. Hope all is well.
Actually my head is full of stuff all the time. It is quite annoying at times as I think of a project I want to do/start but have others already on the burner.
When I actually start a project, I do have some ideas as to what I want it to look like when finished. More often than not, it will be changed from my original idea. I don't do any research but try to draw on memory of my past layouts and other layouts visited. I learn from my mistakes and those of others as to what looks good and what doesn't.
As far as this ash pit is concerned, I did the same thing on my last layout. However, it was much easier then. I used 3/8" plywood with 1/2" Homosote glued and screwed to the plywood. All I needed to do was cut out the Homosote for the ash pit.
Some projects go faster than others but for me PATIENCE while building is the key to a great looking project when finished.
Not sure it is contagious, but you are certainly welcome to "come on down". I just need a day or two notice.
Thank you for the extremely kind and generous compliment on the work and layout. I very much appreciate the support.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on June 29, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Tom,
As usual in your journey, an impressive feature for the railroad. But, as others have pointed out, styrene rod might have been a better choice to keep the rails in gage.
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for checking in and for the compliment, much appreciated. The issue of the brass on the rails will be addressed withing the hour.
Tom ;D
I hope ya'll gave me a little more credit in knowing I just can't place a brass rod between the rails. Then again, maybe not. :-\ :-\
I knew there would definitely be an electrical short if they were placed directly against the rails. I did experiment by painting two coats of paint on the rail and just lay the brass on the base rail, no solder, just ACC.
I then did a conductivity test and two of the tracks showed no short but the third one did. Rather than chance this happening once all was weathered and ballasted, I made the change then. I was going to post this change after the last posting but didn't get the chance. Then ya'll saw what I did with no explanation from me and got all freaky.
Here is what I did. I removed the brass wire and super glued them to the under side edge of the top portion of the plastic I-beam. No metal to metal contact as shown below.
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More in a few.
The change is not really noticeable and now no worries about the movement of the brass or arching through the paint.
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I'll have more updates tomorrow afternoon.
I don't think anyone is doubting your intelligence or your awesome modeling ability. I think it was a matter of the photo perspective that made it look wrong.
Curt,
Please don't make excuses for him. In his geriatric state, he's making 1st-year modeler's mistakes with sticking brass rods between hot rails. I learned that at 15 when I built my first ash pit, but of course with DC I shorted out the whole track past the switch.
Heck, he even said he had a short on one of the tracks. Naw, no excuses Lanford I say! I personally would never say any of the aforementioned out loud (course one can't hear print). ha. Nice job on the whole tutorial of your AS ash pit using your dad's ashes...from the fireplace. Keep hammering away brother, who knows, you might actually hit a nail. KP-out...
Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use styrene rod instead of brass rod?
dave
Quote from: deemery on June 27, 2018, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Speak for yourself Langford.....Pegi says I'm boringly normal.....most of the time. ;D
Like Abby Normal? [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc)[/size]
dave
I always thought that they did a great job of lighting my face in that scene.
:D :D :D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 30, 2018, 04:08:45 PM
I don't think anyone is doubting your intelligence or your awesome modeling ability. I think it was a matter of the photo perspective that made it look wrong.
Curt,
Thanks for stopping by. I wasn't offended by the comments. It was my lame attempt at dry humor. It's all good my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on June 30, 2018, 04:36:31 PM
Curt,
Please don't make excuses for him. In his geriatric state, he's making 1st-year modeler's mistakes with sticking brass rods between hot rails. I learned that at 15 when I built my first ash pit, but of course with DC I shorted out the whole track past the switch.
Heck, he even said he had a short on one of the tracks. Naw, no excuses Lanford I say! I personally would never say any of the aforementioned out loud (course one can't hear print). ha. Nice job on the whole tutorial of your AS ash pit using your dad's ashes...from the fireplace. Keep hammering away brother, who knows, you might actually hit a nail. KP-out...
Thom,
Thanks brother from another mother. I'd say something pithy to you but it would be like looking in the mirror and talking to myself.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on June 30, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use styrene rod instead of brass rod?
dave
Dave,
When I went to the local Hobby shop for the plastic rods, all the small sizes were out. The smallest ones they had were 1/8". I didn't want to wait a month for them to get more so I used the material on hand.
The brass ones almost worked. Well, 66 2/3 percent anyway.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on June 30, 2018, 05:48:09 PM
Quote from: deemery on June 27, 2018, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 27, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Speak for yourself Langford.....Pegi says I'm boringly normal.....most of the time. ;D
Like Abby Normal? [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc)[/size]
dave
I always thought that they did a great job of lighting my face in that scene.
:D :D :D
Cousin Brucie,
A remarkable resemblance for sure. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Last Friday I finished getting the track from the turntable to the roundhouse. I have more track to add to this area and will get to it later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145441.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145441.jpeg)
Yesterday, The Judge and I laid the reverse track around the back of the round house. Here The Judge is helping test the smoothness of the track and turnouts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145427.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145427.jpeg)
More in a few.
The loco he is testing the track with is an unpainted brass class D-22 ten wheeler. It is the Louisiana & Arkansas 4-6-0. The builder is Sam Hongsa from Korea and 750 were built.
PFM released this model in 1976 at a list price of $160.00.
The Baldwin built loco had 63" drivers and the L&A replaced them with 69" drivers for better speed. The L&A used this loco for the overnight train from New Orleans to Shreveport. This D-22 class was referred to as the "Hustler".
The Babe purchased this for me from Cliff Powers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145500.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145500.jpeg)
More in a few.
Of course I have a level car for testing the track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145514.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718145514.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time, continued in a few.
I decided to add a little more detail to the ash pit. I used the simulated fire and flame effect from Miniatronics.
I drilled two holes in the middle of the track nearest to the edge. I then pushed the bulbs through the holes from the bottom.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153136.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153136.jpeg)
I removed the track and pushed the bulbs back into the holes. I then glued an orange colored cellophane over the bulbs - not shown.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153152.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153152.jpeg)
More in a few.
I replaced the track and dumped the ashes.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153210.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-010718153210.jpeg)
I also did a short video of the flickering coals but it didn't turn out to well. I'll do one tomorrow.
What a neat detail.
The glowing ash looks great!
Also, the Evergreen 'tubing assortment' is one of the most handy packages of styrene I've bought. I've found lots of uses for small pieces of tubing/rod. But I try to keep '1 of everything' from Evergreen in stock all the time. (Same thing for stripwood. It really sucks to run out in the middle of a project and have to wait for resupply.)
dave
Quote from: deemery on July 01, 2018, 08:10:03 PM
The glowing ash looks great!
Ditto that!
Good to see you putting the Judge to work. Lot's of progress since I was last down to visit (which really wasn't all that long ago). :D
Sure is fun watching and learning. So now that the ashes are flickering and glowing are you going to have the pit smoking and hissing as well? With the thunderstorm happening in the background? It looks great.
Thunderstorms ain't always in the background..........this is Florida, Lightening Capital of the World.
Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 01, 2018, 06:49:13 PM
What a neat detail.
Curt,
Thanks and as always it looks better in virtual reality.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 01, 2018, 08:10:03 PM
The glowing ash looks great!
Also, the Evergreen 'tubing assortment' is one of the most handy packages of styrene I've bought. I've found lots of uses for small pieces of tubing/rod. But I try to keep '1 of everything' from Evergreen in stock all the time. (Same thing for stripwood. It really sucks to run out in the middle of a project and have to wait for resupply.)
dave
Dave,
Thanks, appreciate you looking in.
I have at least two of all the strip wood sizes but am lacking in the "tubing assortment".
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 02, 2018, 09:44:28 AM
Quote from: deemery on July 01, 2018, 08:10:03 PM
The glowing ash looks great!
Ditto that!
Good to see you putting the Judge to work. Lot's of progress since I was last down to visit (which really wasn't all that long ago). :D
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciated. Yes, I had the Judge on his feet much of the morning.
I try to get at least 6 hours of work each day on the layout although I'm in here more like 8-10 hours a day.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jim Donovan on July 02, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
Sure is fun watching and learning. So now that the ashes are flickering and glowing are you going to have the pit smoking and hissing as well? With the thunderstorm happening in the background? It looks great.
Jim,
I'm glad you are enjoying the thread and having fun as well. There will always be thunder in the background.
I do have a few "noise related" details planned for the round house turntable area. Stay tuned for those later this year.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 02, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
Thunderstorms ain't always in the background..........this is Florida, Lightening Capital of the World.
Jim
Jim,
We had plenty of thunder and lighting yesterday but sadly no rain.
Tom ;D
Looks like the engineer is heating the tender water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLCKo8wZOU
For the second level island/center portion as well as the entire third level, I made a major change in turnouts. I'm now using PECO Stremline Insulfrog #6 and #8 turnouts.
When I last visited The Ogen & Cache Valley Railroad of Doug Fletcher, he was using PECO turnouts. I was very impressed how smooth the locos and rolling stock handled the turnout frogs. I pushed a few of the Walthers 86' cars through and they were as smooth as if the cars were on a section of straight track.
I'll be using #6's for the center portion with two or three #8's for the loco yard leads. The #8's are for longer wheel based steamers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020718180658.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-020718180658.jpeg)
In the photo above, the turnout is a #8 and will be the home track for a brass C&O H5 Class 2-6-6-2.
Peco US Code 83? I had a tough decision between ME Code 70 and Peco Code 83. I bought a couple pieces of each and compared how they looked after they were painted, etc. For my 1890s era, the Code 70 was a better choice for me (even though it's a bit fussy to lay because it's kinda fragile.)
dave
T~,
I'd love the video except I know that's not how ACL superheated the water before going into the boiler. ha... Nice ashes on your AS. Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on July 02, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
T~,
I'd love the video except I know that's not how ACL superheated the water before going into the boiler. ha... Nice ashes on your AS. Thanx Thom...
Evidently someone can't read Morse code.
The message being conveyed is to the crews that the burgers on the rails in the adjoining pit are ready.
Hi Tom,
You are really making great progress on your layout and it is looking very good as always. I really enjoy watching your work.
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 02, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: tct855 on July 02, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
T~,
I'd love the video except I know that's not how ACL superheated the water before going into the boiler. ha... Nice ashes on your AS. Thanx Thom...
Evidently someone can't read Morse code.
The message being conveyed is to the crews that the burgers on the rails in the adjoining pit are ready.
Ha-ha... I like BandOGuy's reply better! That's funny! deet, deetdeetdeet, deet deet.... Thanx Thom...
Like the ash pit and glowing ashes Tom..... 8)
WOW Tom. You just keep adding creative details. Jim
Tom,
As usual you have brought interest to a feature that is normally passed over in a engine facility, nicely done. Is the pit area finished, is there more to the scene?
Bob
I like the "Fire in the Hole" effect. Just hope it doesn't start a fire in the Tender. ::) ::) ::)
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on July 03, 2018, 11:13:31 AM
I like the "Fire in the Hole" effect. Just hope it doesn't start a fire in the Tender. ::) ::) ::)
Jim
And for those of you old enough to remember, we hope there are no stations nearby. ;)
6+hours daily!!! No wonder you make so much progress. Wish I could discipline myself to do that. Perhaps your rate of progress allows you to feed your drive to keep working.
With the lighting now in place, will you consider perhaps attempting to spray a "skin" layer of glue on the ashes to hold them down? Can you imagine if an operator reaching in to uncouple would suddenly sneeze?
Quote from: tct855 on July 02, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
T~,
I'd love the video except I know that's not how ACL superheated the water before going into the boiler. ha... Nice ashes on your AS. Thanx Thom...
Thom,
That is my way of saying, "If you are going to show a loco dropping ashes, make dang sure the firebox is over the pit, Doh!
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 02, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: tct855 on July 02, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
T~,
I'd love the video except I know that's not how ACL superheated the water before going into the boiler. ha... Nice ashes on your AS. Thanx Thom...
Evidently someone can't read Morse code.
The message being conveyed is to the crews that the burgers on the rails in the adjoining pit are ready.
Chip,
Exactly right my friend. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 03, 2018, 08:26:02 AM
Like the ash pit and glowing ashes Tom..... 8)
Greg,
Thank you, much appreciaited.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on July 03, 2018, 09:44:52 AM
WOW Tom. You just keep adding creative details. Jim
Jim,
Thank you very much. I have more in store for later. Appreciate you stopping by.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RWL on July 03, 2018, 10:35:25 AM
Tom,
As usual you have brought interest to a feature that is normally passed over in a engine facility, nicely done. Is the pit area finished, is there more to the scene?
Bob
Bob,
Thank you my friend. The pit isn't finished as I have more detail to add in and around the pit area. I wanted to move to the track and come back to it later. There will be much more to the scene.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 02, 2018, 10:36:15 PM
Hi Tom,
You are really making great progress on your layout and it is looking very good as always. I really enjoy watching your work.
Steve,
Thank you, I've been very motivated of late. I'll hit a wall sooner or later but until then I'm on it.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 03, 2018, 11:13:31 AM
I like the "Fire in the Hole" effect. Just hope it doesn't start a fire in the Tender. ::) ::) ::)
Jim
Jim,
Thank you, much appreciate you following along. The engineer has been replaced and the loco moved off the hot spot. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 03, 2018, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on July 03, 2018, 11:13:31 AM
I like the "Fire in the Hole" effect. Just hope it doesn't start a fire in the Tender. ::) ::) ::)
Jim
And for those of you old enough to remember, we hope there are no stations nearby. ;)
Chip,
Again, exactly correct. Well, not yet anyway. 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Blazeman on July 03, 2018, 02:24:44 PM
6+hours daily!!! No wonder you make so much progress. Wish I could discipline myself to do that. Perhaps your rate of progress allows you to feed your drive to keep working.
With the lighting now in place, will you consider perhaps attempting to spray a "skin" layer of glue on the ashes to hold them down? Can you imagine if an operator reaching in to uncouple would suddenly sneeze?
Larry,
When I'm motivated, I need to stay focused. I'll hit the wall eventually but until then, things are getting done. You are correct in that when I see how it is turning out I want to keep going.
I've been experimenting with some ash. When wet it all vanishes. A light spray spreads them. I think I'll end up with an ash concoction and paint them on. I'll keep everyone posted on the outcome.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 02, 2018, 06:42:21 PM
Peco US Code 83? I had a tough decision between ME Code 70 and Peco Code 83. I bought a couple pieces of each and compared how they looked after they were painted, etc. For my 1890s era, the Code 70 was a better choice for me (even though it's a bit fussy to lay because it's kinda fragile.)
dave
Dave,
I wanted to answer your post last. Yes, I'm using code 83 ME flexible track. I even stay with the code 83 on siding and spurs. Just easier to manage.
I may have covered this on the first section the thread but will add it here as well.
For securing the track I prefer to use PECO track nails. PECO calls the track fixing pins. They are in fact more of a pin than nail.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163314.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163314.jpeg)
More in a few.
I dump the package on a Kadee Under Track Magnet.
I do this for two reasons -
1. It magnetizes the pins, usually takes 2-3 days.
2. It keeps them in one place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163328.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163328.jpeg)
When I use them, I remove a few and lay them on the layout. When finished, I move the magnet over the left overs and they are all back on the magnet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163343.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163343.jpeg)
More in a few.
I drill a hole, somewhere between a #76 to #80 drill bit. The pin is picked up and tapped into the track and sub roadbed. When I used 1/2" Homosote the pins held the track in place until ballasted.
However, I'm now just using 3/8" plywood. I drill through the track tie and into a little bit of the plywood.
I mentioned the pins getting magnetized. Here again, is what I do. I use a nail punch and pick up a pin as shown below.
The pin is magnetized and jumps on the end of the nail punch.
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As you can see, it fits nicely on the end.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163411.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163411.jpeg)
More in a few.
PECO track pins have a very low profile. In the next photo I have 18 track pins through the ties and into the plywood. They are hard to spot but they are there.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163425.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163425.jpeg)
Here is a close up of the PECO track pin - center of track and photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718163439.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time and then I'll give a new update on today's progress.
Hey Tom:
Keep on truckin.
Karl
Nice! Glad the Peco works for you, and using the Kadee magnet to keep the Peco nails is a great idea.. My plan is to lay a bed of caulk to hold my track in place. But if that doesn't work, I may give the Peco track nails a try.
I also had a good day tracklaying today, will post some photos on the daily chat later.
dave
Quote from: postalkarl on July 03, 2018, 05:28:28 PM
Hey Tom:
Keep on truckin.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks for checking in and I will. Lots more to post over the next few days.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 03, 2018, 05:31:41 PM
Nice! Glad the Peco works for you, and using the Kadee magnet to keep the Peco nails is a great idea.. My plan is to lay a bed of caulk to hold my track in place. But if that doesn't work, I may give the Peco track nails a try.
I also had a good day tracklaying today, will post some photos on the daily chat later.
dave
Dave,
Thanks, appreciate it.
The reason I like the pins is that the track will lay there until I ballast it. This way I can see it and run trains for a few months. I I need to change something I can. With caulk, you better be sure you want the track to be where you have if for good.
I have moved track in the past prior to ballast when the need to add or change the track plan.
Looking forward to the photos.
Tom ;D
I spent most of the day laying the loco lead tracks for the steam servicing area.
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Here the three tracks over the ash pit are now joined with the approach tracks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184744.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184744.jpeg)
More in a few.
Wow. That is a lot of progress. I wanted to get down there for a visit but with my upcoming family commitments now it won't be until August most likely.
The outside track, running around and behind the roundhouse is also the reverse track.
In the above photo, the track to the left of the water tank is to far to the left. I need it to be more in line and parallel to the inbound service tracks.
The turnout and track in the next photo show where I need the top track positioned.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184805.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184805.jpeg)
I pulled up the track and PECO pins and realigned the track.
The next photo shows how the track was realigned to be parallel with the service tracks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184846.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184846.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 03, 2018, 07:03:23 PM
Wow. That is a lot of progress. I wanted to get down there for a visit but with my upcoming family commitments now it won't be until August most likely.
Curt,
Thanks, I've put my 6-8 hours a day to very good use.
When free come on over, you know where I'll be.
Tom ;D
By the way, over the years I've accumulated quite a stash of short sections of track. A few are as short as 3 inches. When I need a short section I go to my track stash instead of cutting a small section off the new track.
This has worked very well over the years.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184833.jpeg)
Back in a few.
The track between the water tank and coaling tower is the out bound track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184942.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-030718184942.jpeg)
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The Judge thought ya'll might like the video of the Durango & Silverton dumping the fire.[/font][/color]
I'm perplexed?
Didn't see in the video where the engine pulled up enough to the tender to water down the hot ashes like you did in your most excellent video? Someone should let the Durango & Silverton crew know they're doing it all wrong. KP-out...
Tom
Your track crew has been very busy. Looking good.
Sure is nice to have a lot of room for engine facilities on your layout.
Looks great Tom!
Wonderful progress!
Note to self - wear a protective cup if Greg is running a train around that outside loop. :P :o
Tom - The ash pit fire is a feature I have never seen before. Good touch! I like your ash pit hoist better than the loader. But I guess it will save some labor costs so some of our guys will be out of a job. . . . Oh,yeah, I forgot about all the grading, ballasting, and track laying that has to be done. We'll need to hire some more helpers to finish the job. Maybe Farmer Perkins will give us a few of his orange pickers on a temporary basis. That is, unless they have all migrated to Rochester, N.Y. for summer work.
Hey Tom:
All is looking really great. Can't wait to see this are finished.
Karl
Quote from: tct855 on July 03, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
I'm perplexed?
Didn't see in the video where the engine pulled up enough to the tender to water down the hot ashes like you did in your most excellent video? Someone should let the Durango & Silverton crew know they're doing it all wrong. KP-out...
Thom,
Don't be cornfused (sic) as I do it my way and the D&S does their own thing with dumping the fire. :D :D
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 03, 2018, 08:50:13 PM
Tom
Your track crew has been very busy. Looking good.
John,
Yes, the crew has been very busy. I appreciate you looking in on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 03, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
Sure is nice to have a lot of room for engine facilities on your layout.
Steve,
Yes, I do freely admit I'm very fortunate to have the space for the layout and service area.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 04, 2018, 09:04:41 AM
Looks great Tom!
John,
Thank you as always. I thought you were planing on a visit?
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 04, 2018, 11:41:07 AM
Wonderful progress!
Note to self - wear a protective cup if Greg is running a train around that outside loop. :P :o
Bob,
Much appreciated, thank you. Yes, or we can just ban him from running trains in the center section. Spur tracks and siding are way toi slow for Greg.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on July 04, 2018, 02:02:35 PM
Tom - The ash pit fire is a feature I have never seen before. Good touch! I like your ash pit hoist better than the loader. But I guess it will save some labor costs so some of our guys will be out of a job. . . . Oh,yeah, I forgot about all the grading, ballasting, and track laying that has to be done. We'll need to hire some more helpers to finish the job. Maybe Farmer Perkins will give us a few of his orange pickers on a temporary basis. That is, unless they have all migrated to Rochester, N.Y. for summer work.
Bill: AKA: Judge,
The fire in the pit is cool, er, hot. I like the hoist better as well.
All the migrant orange pickers are up north now. Besides, if I put them to work in the yard area, they can join the union. If so, we'll never get rid of them.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on July 04, 2018, 02:03:51 PM
Hey Tom:
All is looking really great. Can't wait to see this are finished.
Karl
Karl,
As always, thank you my friend. I plan on work on this section for a couple of months.
Tom ;D
Today I worked on finishing the tower coal shed track. The shed has a raised portion for the hoppers to dump coal. I marked off the area I wanted elevated.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165050.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165050.jpeg)
I did the same on both ends of the shed. I was going to use the saber saw and cut out the plywood. I then had an idea.
I placed two pieces of cork on the lines and it was the perfect height for the track and shed.
I glued two pieces of cork together in the front and rear of the shed. I tacked the end piece in place as I needed just a slight curve to that piece.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165109.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165109.jpeg)
More in a few.
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Just to be safe, I added some weight and let it dry overnight.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165159.jpeg)
I don't have the AC on in here so I'll need to get a cold Diet Pepsi. Back in a few.
This morning I began sanding the cork into a ramp on the one end.
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I used a #36 course Aluminum Oxide sandpaper for the job.
15 minutes later and half way done.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165216.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165216.jpeg)
More in a few.
Getting close -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165231.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165231.jpeg)
I saved all the cork dust as it makes for great ground cover and dead leaves.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165244.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165244.jpeg)
More in a few.
By the end of this project I was getting tired. I also cut the grass this morning.
So, I'm fast forwarding and the ramp is finished and the track in place. The track is not secure at this time as I still need to paint the coal shed and add details.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165259.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040718165259.jpeg)
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Going to look great , and I hope you don't mind that one day I will copy this , up till now I have the exact same buildings for my engine facility's , only a scale smaller. So happy with you sharing all your " how to do's ".
ACL 1504,
Nice job on cleaning up all the tracks. Did you break out your new track cleaner? Kp-out...
Great progress Tom.
Great thread, Tom. You are cranking along at a nice clip. Looks great.
I thought I was the only one that sanded down a cork ramp by hand for an hour at a time. Glad to see there's some other misery out there, too. Gotta be a way to do that with spackle and a couple of skinny plastic or wood triangles or something.....
Quote from: Janbouli on July 04, 2018, 05:59:42 PM
Going to look great , and I hope you don't mind that one day I will copy this , up till now I have the exact same buildings for my engine facility's , only a scale smaller. So happy with you sharing all your " how to do's ".
Jam,
Thank you, I'm really excited about this area. I'm honored you want to copy this plan. All I can say is that it works for me. And, I'm happy to share all the "how I do it info". Also, I've made one addition for the better to the outbound tracks.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 04, 2018, 06:00:57 PM
ACL 1504,
Nice job on cleaning up all the tracks. Did you break out your new track cleaner? Kp-out...
Thom,
Thanks, yes, I did use the track cleaner but it doesn't look like yours. ;D ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 04, 2018, 06:40:01 PM
Great progress Tom.
Curt,
Thanks as always my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: vinceg on July 04, 2018, 08:56:23 PM
Great thread, Tom. You are cranking along at a nice clip. Looks great.
I thought I was the only one that sanded down a cork ramp by hand for an hour at a time. Glad to see there's some other misery out there, too. Gotta be a way to do that with spackle and a couple of skinny plastic or wood triangles or something.....
Vince,
Thank you, much appreciated. I try to get as much done as I can when the mood hits me.
I've been sanding the cork roadbed for about 20+ years. Sometimes just to smooth it on the top and to make transitions ramps. The problem using spackle is it shrinks and still needs to be sanded. Woodland Scenics has some type of foam ramp but I wanted to build my own.
Thanks for stopping by.
Tom ;D
The Judge was over this morning and I was telling him I think I need a second outbound track. He agreed and I said, "Okay, stand back".
The second outbound track will go between the water tower and the current outbound track.
I started by making the decision to place the turnout at the curved section of the current outbound track.
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More in a few.
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Fast forward and 90 minutes later we had the second outbound track.
The engineer on the 2-10-0 didn't get the memo that this is an outbound track. ;D ;D
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More in a few.
The roundhouse, turntable and reverse tracks are now complete.
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Here's a view of the inbound tracks prior to the second outbound track being installed.
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Continued in a few more.
On another note, I caught the Judge bringing up the L&N South Wind passenger train. The head end power is two L&N E-6 units. Here the South Wind is coming off the Ovalix track onto the A&S RR mainline.
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The E-6 AA lash up was spotted at the lubritorium for some general maintenance. L&N L1 4-8-2 was given the job to pull the train. We spotted the L1 steamer at the Sandlando Crossing. It appears to be just out of the shop.
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The L&N is a Key Imports brass locomotive and professionally painted by the president of the A&S RR.
That looks like a fully functional engine terminal! It's been fun to watch it evolve.
dave
Looks great Tom. I really have to get over and see it in person.
Jim
Awesome progress Tom! It's always fun to see what you are up to these days.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 07, 2018, 05:59:45 PM
That looks like a fully functional engine terminal! It's been fun to watch it evolve.
dave
Dave,
Thank you, I think I'll get a lot of use out of this area. The possibilities are endless.
I still need to add the sand bin and drying house along with the sand towers.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 07, 2018, 08:14:53 PM
Looks great Tom. I really have to get over and see it in person.
Jim
Jim,
The invitation is always open my friend. Why don't you plan on coming over on Saturday, July 21, and join the Judge and I for lunch.
Oh, and thank you Butty for the compliment.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 08, 2018, 02:46:04 PM
Awesome progress Tom! It's always fun to see what you are up to these days.
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Thank you, very much appreciate the kind words. Glad you are enjoying the adventure.
Tom ;D
Yesterday I spent several hours converting some wasted space for a more useful one.
The area is 8' long, 2' wide and 32 inches high.
I started by ripping a 2X4 down the middle. The 2X2's were laid on the carpet between the layout legs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180550.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180550.jpeg)
I cut several cross 2X2 pieces and laid them in place as shown.
The cross 2X2 pieces are screwed to the longer 2X2s. However the entire 2X2 form is free floating.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180603.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180603.jpeg)
More in a few.
A 3 ply, 3/8" plywood base was cut and screwed to the 2X2s.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180618.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180618.jpeg)
I then cut to fit two plywood sides and screwed them in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180635.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-090718180635.jpeg)
More in a few.
Now I have a new storage area. One where I can see what I stack there.
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I forgot to mention I also pulled all the buss wires prior to making the storage area.
Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Last week I finished the water in the Suwannee River Lagoon.
I followed Dave Frary's video on using Mod Podge. However, I didn't use the brush he suggested and I only applied two coats instead of the 10-12 he used on the Seaport diorama.
I used one of my Babe's discarded makeup brushes. It's much smaller than the one Frary used. Meaning he used a paint brush and not a makeup brush.
I took my time in the applications and the results worked very well.
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More in a few.
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Wow, Tom -- that's pretty amazing. Without the facia and ceiling around the edges of the shots, I don't know that I would be able to tell it's a model. Well done.
Hey Tom, the water looks great and your photography capturing the scenes is the best.
Man.....I leave town for a few days and all sorts of stuff gets done on the ole' A&S..... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 10, 2018, 09:02:35 AM
Man.....I leave town for a few days and all sorts of stuff gets done on the ole' A&S..... ;D ;D ;D
That will teach you to not go out of town while work is going on. :o :o :o :o
Jim
Tom - The A&S continues to give us more great views. One of life's disappointments is that I never got to see it in person. Florida trips are over. Jim
The water is superb. Like others have said, it looks like it's real. AMAZING.
The water looked pretty darn good before the Mod Podge was applied but now it looks great! (Where's Tony the Tiger when you need him?) ;D
Wonderful progress. We need to get Greg out of town more often. ;)
BTW- Nice looking sail boat. :D
Quote from: vinceg on July 09, 2018, 06:58:12 PM
Wow, Tom -- that's pretty amazing. Without the facia and ceiling around the edges of the shots, I don't know that I would be able to tell it's a model. Well done.
Vince,
Thank you, appreciate you following along. I wanted to get a water level shot and the camera also captured all the other stuff. When I cropped it out, it didn't look right so I just left the fascia in the shot.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 09, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
Hey Tom, the water looks great and your photography capturing the scenes is the best.
Steve,
Thank you for the kind words of support on the water. The water level pictures changed the entire look of the water scene.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 10, 2018, 09:02:35 AM
Man.....I leave town for a few days and all sorts of stuff gets done on the ole' A&S..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Yepper, no grass growing under my layout work. ;D ;D ;D My AS is moving right along.
Tom 8)
Quote from: jimmillho on July 10, 2018, 09:39:58 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 10, 2018, 09:02:35 AM
Man.....I leave town for a few days and all sorts of stuff gets done on the ole' A&S..... ;D ;D ;D
That will teach you to not go out of town while work is going on. :o :o :o :o
Jim
Jim,
It happens per Forrest Gump.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on July 10, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
Tom - The A&S continues to give us more great views. One of life's disappointments is that I never got to see it in person. Florida trips are over. Jim
Jim,
Thank you for the compliment on the layout work. Sorry to hear the Florida trips are over but you can at least follow the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 10:18:48 AM
The water is superb. Like others have said, it looks like it's real. AMAZING.
Curt,
Thank you, I really appreciate the compliment. I'm very pleased with how it turned out.
Have a safe trip on Thursday.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 10, 2018, 04:07:55 PM
The water looked pretty darn good before the Mod Podge was applied but now it looks great! (Where's Tony the Tiger when you need him?) ;D
Wonderful progress. We need to get Greg out of town more often. ;)
BTW- Nice looking sail boat. :D
Bob,
I appreciate the kind words on the water in the lagoon. The two coats were just the ticket.
I seem to get a lot done when the Judge is out of town as well. Bill, that is no hint. 8) 8) 8) I'll be out of town this Saturday. I'm gong all the way north to Tavares. I'm gong to stop and see Bill and Kris Cutler.
Ah, the sail boat. It's a Sea Port model and done by a very good and gracious friend. He also did the three speed boats. He lives up north in Lake Mary. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
I was a busy guy yesterday. I finished the last 18 feet of the third level framing and plywood decking.
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I previously cut all the cross braces so that saved a little time.
The arrows mark the top and isle side for my reference. This way all the holes line up for the buss wires.
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More in a few.
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I fit the box, less the cross braces together on the center isle bench work prior to screwing it all together.
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More in a few.
I'm not sure I mentioned this before but I've been using a soft pine in the 1X3 upper level boxes. It is a little less expensive but the main reason I'm using the soft pine is that it is very light.
The draw back to the soft pine is that it splits easily.
To avoid the ends splitting, I use A 9/64 bit and drill a pilot hole in the end of the 1X3. I then use a 21/64 bit to ream out a small amount for the screw head.
When the screws are added the wood doesn't split on the ends.
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More in a few.
The first box was made and the LED strip was added. The box was then placed in place.
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The box was positioned so I could pull the buss wires. The box was then clamped to the installed box for test fitting.
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More in a few.
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Ah, very good, no adjustments or shimming needed.
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Howdy Doody says it's Diet Pepsi time forks. Back in a few.
I repeated the process for the next two boxes.
Once all three were in place, I added the plywood decking.
NOTE: The three sections of plywood are not screwed on the frame boxes. They are just laying on the boxes for now. I'll screw them to the frame/boxes in a few days.
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Looking good T. T...
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
I admire your progress!
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
A permanent Bridge or a lift out ? It's all over my head ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
Curt,
Thank you kind sir. I'll be here when you return. Hope all goes well with the brother issue.
The bridge will be a lift out as the other two.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jbvb on July 11, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
I admire your progress!
James,
Thank you, much appreciate you checking in. I have a plan to get in as much as possible for the two weeks.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 11, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
A permanent Bridge or a lift out ? It's all over my head ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Perhaps you need a longer attention span. 8)
Quote from: jimmillho on July 11, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
A permanent Bridge or a lift out ? It's all over my head ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Jim,
The third level height is only 56.5 inches. So, you'll only need to duck a few inches. ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 11, 2018, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on July 11, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 10, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
Great progress Tom. I can't wait to see everything in person after I get back in town. Are you doing a lift out bridge on the third level or will it be permanent?
A permanent Bridge or a lift out ? It's all over my head ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jim
Perhaps you need a longer attention span. 8)
Chip,
Good one sir.
Tom ;D
Today my focus was to get all the kits in one place. All the kits are now in groups of the manufacturer.
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I plan to use the Magnuson kits as George Sellios did. That is to make RTV molds of the kits and use them to make some structures as George did.
I have all the original Magnuson resin kits. When Walthers purchased Magnuson, many of them were redone in plastic.
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All those kits in one place.....looks like "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium"..... ;)
The finished decking on the east side looks great.....I'll get down soon to give it the ole' structural test. ;D
Tom,
Let me know the hours of Langford's Hobbies. It looks like one of the best stocked locations in the South. 8)
Does the soda machine have regular cold Pepsi products or just Diet Pepsi ? ;)
Do you still offer senior discounts ? ;D
Having that well stocked hobby shop is the key to building your first class model railroad ! :)
Tommy
Hi Tom
I'm sitting on my boat waiting for the fish to bite and catching up on your progress. You are moving right along - love it. I need to make a trip down your way to see it in person. Maybe next spring, when I get tired of our winter weather. We are having Florida weather in Michigan this summer - the water temperature is 84 degrees. That's 10 - 15 degrees warmer than it should be right now. I'm trying to find the deep cold spring feed spot in the lake because that's where all the fish are hanging out. I found one and caught two but that's been it.
One question, if I may, when you make an RTV mold of your resin kits are you going to use hydrocal or resin to make the new walls?
Please excuse my spelling errors - I found a couple - spell checker thinks, bite should be byte, and resin should be resign. :-[ ::)
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on July 12, 2018, 02:59:05 PM
Tom,
Let me know the hours of Langford's Hobbies. It looks like one of the best stocked locations in the South. 8)
Does the soda machine have regular cold Pepsi products or just Diet Pepsi ? ;)
Do you still offer senior discounts ? ;D
Tommy
Veterans discounts?
Frequent shopper points?
Drone deliveries?
Tom, your progress has been amazing as of late. The "multi-level" thing is really coming together. I'm sorry I haven't had an opportunity to stop in and check it out lately.
John
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 12, 2018, 09:02:07 AM
All those kits in one place.....looks like "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium"..... ;)
The finished decking on the east side looks great.....I'll get down soon to give it the ole' structural test. ;D
Greg,
All these kits in one place and so little time. Oh wait, Reading Bob still lives close. 8) 8)
See you next Satruday!
Tom ;D
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on July 12, 2018, 02:59:05 PM
Tom,
Let me know the hours of Langford's Hobbies. It looks like one of the best stocked locations in the South. 8)
Does the soda machine have regular cold Pepsi products or just Diet Pepsi ? ;)
Do you still offer senior discounts ? ;D
Having that well stocked hobby shop is the key to building your first class model railroad ! :)
Tommy
Tommy,
Here, everyday is Saturday, 9-5. Come on down. Only Diet Pepsi and bottled water served here. No senior discounts, just walking in is enough.
I'm well stocked for sure, maybe to well stocked. :-[
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 12, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
Hi Tom
I'm sitting on my boat waiting for the fish to bite and catching up on your progress. You are moving right along - love it. I need to make a trip down your way to see it in person. Maybe next spring, when I get tired of our winter weather. We are having Florida weather in Michigan this summer - the water temperature is 84 degrees. That's 10 - 15 degrees warmer than it should be right now. I'm trying to find the deep cold spring feed spot in the lake because that's where all the fish are hanging out. I found one and caught two but that's been it.
One question, if I may, when you make an RTV mold of your resin kits are you going to use hydrocal or resin to make the new walls?
John,
Thank you for stopping by and getting caught up on the thread. Yes, I've been very busy and will continue until I hit the "time to take a break wall"!
You are welcome anytime you are in the area.
I prefer to use resin with the RTV molds. I have used Hydrocal but the resin is easier to work with in joining the walls. Micro Mark resins CR-300 and CR-600 both work very well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 12, 2018, 03:45:58 PM
Please excuse my spelling errors - I found a couple - spell checker thinks, bite should be byte, and resin should be resign. :-[ ::)
No problemo!
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 12, 2018, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on July 12, 2018, 02:59:05 PM
Tom,
Let me know the hours of Langford's Hobbies. It looks like one of the best stocked locations in the South. 8)
Does the soda machine have regular cold Pepsi products or just Diet Pepsi ? ;)
Do you still offer senior discounts ? ;D
Tommy
Veterans discounts?
Frequent shopper points?
Drone deliveries?
Chip,
For now, none of the stash is for sale. ;D ;D ;D
But who knows what I may choose to move. 8)
So that answers all the questions.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 13, 2018, 07:11:48 AM
Tom, your progress has been amazing as of late. The "multi-level" thing is really coming together. I'm sorry I haven't had an opportunity to stop in and check it out lately.
John
John,
I've been pushing it pretty hard lately. I know you are a very busy man so when in the area and you have the time, you know the number and where I'll be.
The third level is finally finished, well, all but the lift out. I'll finished that when the track laying begins.
Tom ;D
I started work on the coaling tower and coal shed. No pictures of this as yet. I want to get further along and have something worth showing.
I did build another sand bin for the steam area. I won't go into how I built it. If you missed that portion of the thread you can follow it here. It's about half way down page 117.
http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build-thread-continued/1740/ (http://modelersforum.com/layout-tours/the-atlantic-and-southern-build-thread-continued/1740/)
I did take Reading Bob's suggestion on this one and built up the center pit area for the sand.
I cut four pieces of foam board to fill the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130718165911.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-130718165911.jpeg)
I used Weldwood contact cement for gluing the four pieces in place.
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More in a few.
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I then started adding the bin sides.
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Diet Pepsi time folks, back after grabbing a cold one. :P :P
I next added the bin tie rods. I used 1/16" piano wire for the rods. They were painted a rusty brown.
I then added a bead of glue around the inside of the bin. I noticed as the glue was drying, it was pulling the sides of the bin in. I cut seven pieces of HO scale 8X8s and used them to hold the sides out until the glue dries. The 8X8s are under the tie rods. They will be covered with sand later.
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After cropping the next photo, I noticed the nut and bolt castings are a bit to orange. No picture of this but I have since toned the orange down to look more rusty brown.
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Well, I've hit today's wall so I'm leaving it here.
Today I continued work on the coaling tower. I'm kit bashing it by adding extra details that will make the tower look better and more realistic. I started be adding LEDs under the main tower coal bin.
I drilled two 5mm holes in the bottom as shown below.
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There is a small space between/inside the tower columns. I enlarged the hole by using a 7/64 bit and reaming out one column.
I found some 30 gauge solid wire at Radio Shack. I purchased red and white they didn't have black.
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More in a few.
I pulled the red and white wires through the column and into the main coal bin as shown.
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More in a few.
I soldered two of Slim's 5mm warm white flood LEDs together.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150142.jpeg)
I then pushed them through the two holes as shown. I only pushed them about 1/3 of the way into the hole.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150159.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150159.jpeg)
More in a few. I need a cold Diet Pepsi.
One the upper and lower sides of the tower there are brackets for mounting chain wheels. These wheels turn the pulleys which raise and lower the coal chutes.
Walthers wants us to imagine the wheel turns the pulleys as there is no bar connecting the them.
I drilled a small hole in the chain wheel. I used .019" diameter brass wire and made a very small crimp in one end. I then bent the wire at 90 degrees and glued it to the chain wheel.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150257.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150257.jpeg)
Prior to gluing the pulleys in place, I drilled small holes in them using the same size drill bit. I first glued the pulley pads in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150311.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150311.jpeg)
When dry I added the pulleys.
More in a few.
The next photo shows the chain wheel, bar and pulleys in place. This is a great little added visual addition to the tower.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150326.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150326.jpeg)
Here's how it looks painted.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150342.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150342.jpeg)
More in a few.
Walthers also includes some thread for use as chains. Nothing looks like a chain except a chain. Not even thread looks like HO scale chain.
The thread was place in file 13 for use when the trash goes out.
I found some old Campbell HO chain. Not sure I have enough but I also had some HO brass chain that can be darkened.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150357.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150357.jpeg)
Now, doesn't this look more realistic?
More in a few.
I also added four more chain wheel bars to each of the four lower corners of the tower. These four control the coal chutes under and in the center of the coal tower.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150431.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150431.jpeg)
Back to the LED lighting. I added three goose necks to the coaling tower over each door.
Here is how the lighting looks.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150448.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150448.jpeg)
I hope to have more on this build tomorrow afternoon.
Great modeling Tom. Chain looks 100% better than thread.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 15, 2018, 06:05:24 PM
Great modeling Tom. Chain looks 100% better than thread.
Curt,
Thank you, I hope to get more done today. However, I've been caught up in the "honey do stuff"!
Tom ;D
I got some chain. Some of it is blackened.
Jim
Quote from: jimmillho on July 16, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
I got some chain. Some of it is blackened.
Jim
Jim,
May I buy it from you? If so, I'll pay you Saturday if you are coming by.
Tom ;D
Some 40+ years ago Durango Press offered a clean out rack. I purchased one from DeWitt's Train Depot for around $4.00. Today I finally got around to building it.
Of course I drastically changed mine. The clean out rack is now sold through J L Innovative for $8.50.
Here is the kit photo taken from the J L Innovative page.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153124.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153124.jpeg)
More in a few. Another Babe honey do.
Here is the double sided rack I scratch built.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153142.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153142.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153157.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153157.jpeg)
I also made a few extra bars and hooks to get at those nasty "clinkers" hidden in the firebox.
It still needs heavy weathering.
More in a few.
I made some planks for the Hostlers to walk on when cleaning out the firebox.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153213.jpeg)
Not sure where I'll place the clean out rack. Either on the side of the coal tower or on the side of the water columns.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153228.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153228.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153242.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160718153242.jpeg)
I just realized I now have 3800 photos attached to this build thread.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 16, 2018, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on July 16, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
I got some chain. Some of it is blackened.
Jim
Jim,
May I buy it from you? If so, I'll pay you Saturday if you are coming by.
Tom, I will bring it, but you can't buy what is not for sale. 8) 8) 8) 8)
Jim
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on July 16, 2018, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 16, 2018, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on July 16, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
I got some chain. Some of it is blackened.
Jim
Jim,
May I buy it from you? If so, I'll pay you Saturday if you are coming by.
Tom, I will bring it, but you can't buy what is not for sale. 8) 8) 8) 8)
Jim
Tom ;D
Works for me Jim!
Tom ;D
What's happening here.....why is Jim being so nice????? ???
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 17, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
What's happening here.....why is Jim being so nice? ??? ? ???
Greg,
Nothing out of the usual for Jim. He is a very nice guy and helpful when asked.
Most importantly, Jim and I have known each other for the better part of 43+ years. He knew me when I was at the lowest part of my life and that was being married to the Flyer and he still liked me. :-X
Nuff said here.
Tom ;D
Plus Jim doesn't run trains fast enough to be a missile hazard. ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 17, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Plus Jim doesn't run trains fast enough to be a missile hazard. ;D
Curt,
Amen brother.
Tom ;D
Today I installed two coal chutes using the scale chain.
Very tedious and delicate in working under the coal tower. The two chutes took about an hour each.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170608.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170608.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170622.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170622.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170637.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170637.jpeg)
I also installed one chain wheel chain.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170723.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170723.jpeg)
Back in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170650.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170707.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170718170707.jpeg)
My metric for "tedious and delicate" is not 'time', but 'cusswords'. :-)
dave
Beautiful modeling Tom. I may have some small chain also,, but I have to do some searching.
Looking good Tom, keep it up.
Tom - I like the clean-out rack. Nice touch. Probably need at least two to service three ash pits. The A&S can work another one into the budget if the CEO approves.
The Judge
Quote from: Judge on July 17, 2018, 10:15:08 PM
Tom - I like the clean-out rack. Nice touch. Probably need at least two to service three ash pits. The A&S can work another one into the budget if the CEO approves.
The Judge
It's the CFO who's the problem for these kinds of acquisitions :-) :-)
dave
Oh no, Dave! The A&S (Atlantic & Southern) only has two officers on its Board of Directors - The CEO and the Ticket Agent. The latter is a lazy lout who does little real work but makes a lot of suggestions. The ticket agent isn't real busy selling tickets either because the A&S only has one heavy weight coach and it is out of service most of the time due to flat wheels. However, there are a number of employees working for the A&S. Will Fixer is in charge of maintenance and Seaboard ("Always late") Jackson is the passenger conductor. The brakeman is known as "Shack" and nobody knows his real name. He isn't expected to last longer than one pay day so nobody cares. He is an experienced "boomer" though - only a thumb and index finger on his right hand. With a team like this it's no wonder that the CEO received a standing ovation when the A&S declared a $.o1 dividend in June of this year at the annual shareholder's meeting. The annual shareholder's meeting is temporarily being held above the service station located just north of the Sanlando passenger station. Eventually, the A&S will construct a Headquarters building in downtown Tahope and shareholder's meetings will be held there. And that's the inside scoop.
The Judge
Quote from: Judge on July 18, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
Oh no, Dave! The A&S (Atlantic & Southern) only has two officers on its Board of Directors - The CEO and the Ticket Agent. The latter is a lazy lout who does little real work but makes a lot of suggestions. The ticket agent isn't real busy selling tickets either because the A&S only has one heavy weight coach and it is out of service most of the time due to flat wheels. However, there are a number of employees working for the A&S. Will Fixer is in charge of maintenance and Seaboard ("Always late") Jackson is the passenger conductor. The brakeman is known as "Shack" and nobody knows his real name. He isn't expected to last longer than one pay day so nobody cares. He is an experienced "boomer" though - only a thumb and index finger on his right hand. With a team like this it's no wonder that the CEO received a standing ovation when the A&S declared a $.o1 dividend in June of this year at the annual shareholder's meeting. The annual shareholder's meeting is temporarily being held above the service station located just north of the Sanlando passenger station. Eventually, the A&S will construct a Headquarters building in downtown Tahope and shareholder's meetings will be held there. And that's the inside scoop.
The Judge
:) :)
Wonder if the judge showed this kind of humor from the bench?
Quote from: Judge on July 18, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
Oh no, Dave! The A&S (Atlantic & Southern) only has two officers on its Board of Directors - The CEO and the Ticket Agent. ...
The Judge
Lucky is the railroad that doesn't have a CFO!
dave
Quote from: deemery on July 17, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
My metric for "tedious and delicate" is not 'time', but 'cusswords'. :-)
dave
Dave,
Yes, I had a few of those moments as well on this coal tower.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 17, 2018, 06:34:28 PM
Beautiful modeling Tom. I may have some small chain also,, but I have to do some searching.
Curt,
Thank you much appreciated. If you find the chain, I'll be happy to make the purchase.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on July 17, 2018, 09:24:18 PM
Looking good Tom, keep it up.
Steve,
Thanks very much. I has kept me busy.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on July 17, 2018, 10:15:08 PM
Tom - I like the clean-out rack. Nice touch. Probably need at least two to service three ash pits. The A&S can work another one into the budget if the CEO approves.
The Judge
Judge,
Much appreciated, I figured you'd like it. I have many other details planned for the area also.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on July 18, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Quote from: Judge on July 17, 2018, 10:15:08 PM
Tom - I like the clean-out rack. Nice touch. Probably need at least two to service three ash pits. The A&S can work another one into the budget if the CEO approves.
The Judge
It's the CFO who's the problem for these kinds of acquisitions :-) :-)
dave
The Babe is a quasi CFO but when she asks about something she gets the standard response, "Oh Babe, I've had that for awhile. Don't you remember?" 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Judge on July 18, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
Oh no, Dave! The A&S (Atlantic & Southern) only has two officers on its Board of Directors - The CEO and the Ticket Agent. The latter is a lazy lout who does little real work but makes a lot of suggestions. The ticket agent isn't real busy selling tickets either because the A&S only has one heavy weight coach and it is out of service most of the time due to flat wheels. However, there are a number of employees working for the A&S. Will Fixer is in charge of maintenance and Seaboard ("Always late") Jackson is the passenger conductor. The brakeman is known as "Shack" and nobody knows his real name. He isn't expected to last longer than one pay day so nobody cares. He is an experienced "boomer" though - only a thumb and index finger on his right hand. With a team like this it's no wonder that the CEO received a standing ovation when the A&S declared a $.o1 dividend in June of this year at the annual shareholder's meeting. The annual shareholder's meeting is temporarily being held above the service station located just north of the Sanlando passenger station. Eventually, the A&S will construct a Headquarters building in downtown Tahope and shareholder's meetings will be held there. And that's the inside scoop.
The Judge
Judge,
Great response, and yes, we do have some very colorful workers on the A&S RR.
Tom ;D
Quote from: BandOGuy on July 18, 2018, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: Judge on July 18, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
Oh no, Dave! The A&S (Atlantic & Southern) only has two officers on its Board of Directors - The CEO and the Ticket Agent. The latter is a lazy lout who does little real work but makes a lot of suggestions. The ticket agent isn't real busy selling tickets either because the A&S only has one heavy weight coach and it is out of service most of the time due to flat wheels. However, there are a number of employees working for the A&S. Will Fixer is in charge of maintenance and Seaboard ("Always late") Jackson is the passenger conductor. The brakeman is known as "Shack" and nobody knows his real name. He isn't expected to last longer than one pay day so nobody cares. He is an experienced "boomer" though - only a thumb and index finger on his right hand. With a team like this it's no wonder that the CEO received a standing ovation when the A&S declared a $.o1 dividend in June of this year at the annual shareholder's meeting. The annual shareholder's meeting is temporarily being held above the service station located just north of the Sanlando passenger station. Eventually, the A&S will construct a Headquarters building in downtown Tahope and shareholder's meetings will be held there. And that's the inside scoop.
The Judge
:) :)
Wonder if the judge showed this kind of humor from the bench?
I know he did a few times. However, those are his stories.
Tom ;D
I've been making some progress on the railroad roundhouse area. I added 10X10 beams for the retaining wall on the coal shed track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155856.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155856.jpeg)
I also made some wall supports with N&Bs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155909.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155909.jpeg)
More in a few.
I spaced the supports and then glued them in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155923.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155923.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155940.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155940.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155954.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718155954.jpeg)
The scratch built sand bin/bunker was finished yesterday.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160042.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160042.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160057.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160057.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160110.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-190718160110.jpeg)
I applied a wash of Hunterline Creosote Black to the outside walls of the roundhouse.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718165227.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718165227.jpeg)
More in a few.
I finished the installation of the LEDs, all 36, in the roundhouse.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151839.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151839.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151910.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151910.jpeg)
More in a few.
The LEDs were wired and all wires were fed down through brass tubes I installed. I'll wire them to the terminal strips at a later date.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151857.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151857.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
I've spent several hours on kit bashing the coaling tower and coal shed.
I finished the coal chutes and added the HO scale chains to the sides.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151940.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151940.jpeg)
Prior to moving to the installation of the platforms, I added quite a bit of dark weathering. I first dusted the coaling tower with powered black pigments. I then added a wash of Hunterline Driftwood A&I mix to the powers. I set the entire tower aside to dry for a day.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151926.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151926.jpeg)
More in a few.
Here is how it looked after the A&I wash dried.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151940.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151940.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time, back later.
Look great ... always a pleasure to follow...
Eric
Eric,
Thank you, much appreciated. Always happy to have you follow along.
Tom ;D
Great looking patina on the concrete.
I next moved on to the roof and the rolled roofing. I used Stoney Creek Designs rolled roofing material. I think it is the best on the market as it actually looks and feels like tar paper roofing.
First, I had to do a little house cleaning on the main roof. The roof section that covers the lower portion of the tall portion needed to be notched in the middle.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150215.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150215.jpeg)
The notch was required so the LED leads from the top light wouldn't be crimped when the roof was added.
The notch allows the LEd wire lead to fit in the notch and the roof to still fit properly in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150242.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-150718150242.jpeg)
More in a few.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 27, 2018, 06:52:00 PM
Great looking patina on the concrete.
Curt,
Thank you for the compliment on the concrete weathering. I wanted it to look like it was stained with coal dust and not just from the loco smoke. I'm very pleased with the finished look.
Tom ;D
I used 3M transfer tape to hold the rolled roofing material.
I let if overlap on the sides and then trimmed it after it was in place on the roof section.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152031.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152031.jpeg)
Back in a few.
Here is how it looks in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152054.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152054.jpeg)
I did the other side in the same way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152243.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152243.jpeg)
More in a few.
The next roof section was a little tricksie. Here is what I did.
I covered the small roof section as I did the others. However, I added a long bottom strip as seen in the next photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152423.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152423.jpeg)
Here is how this next section fits on the tower.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152439.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152439.jpeg)
More in a few.
To secure this bottom rolled roofing, I used Elmers Glue Stick and applied the glue to the back of the bottom paper piece.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152454.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152454.jpeg)
I then positioned this section of roof in place and pressed the rolled roofing onto the other portion of the roof.
I used a new #11 Xacto blade and cut along the roofs left edge. I then folded the rolled roofing over as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152509.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152509.jpeg)
More in a few.
I did the same on the right side.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152524.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152524.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152538.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152538.jpeg)
Back after getting another Diet Pepsi! ;D ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152552.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152552.jpeg)
I added the roofing to the top roof. I was short a little piece of ridge cap so I used some left over red Stoney Creek paper. I painted the red to match the black.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152010.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152010.jpeg)
More in a few.
I then added the roofing to the coal shed roof.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152659.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152659.jpeg)
Here are a few photos of the tower. The walkway brackets are in place and the entire concrete is now weathered. I still need to weather the roof, add walkways, railings and lower stairs.
You can see the under side is really weathered to represent coal dust and smoke.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151955.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718151955.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152645.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152626.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-260718152714.jpeg)
Tomorrow the Judge and I will be going through all the freight cars, all 165 of them and decide which ones we'll need or use on the A&S RR. All of them are new and unbuilt.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718192658.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718192658.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718192709.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-270718192709.jpeg)
Really nice job on the roofing.
You have more boxed rail cars than the LHS does!
A hundred sixty five of them,
Whooo, you are definitely a non compos mentis ferroequinologist. I wish I had your botheration. KP-out...
Your coal tower looks spectacular, Tom!
Always a pleasure catching up on your work!
Cheers, Mark.
..........................Public Service Announcement...................................
The "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium" wlll reopen on Monday, July 30, 2018 after the current inventory is complete.
I love your inventory. You are one of the few that is brave enough to show how many cars are still in boxes. Been there and have a "T" shirt. I had a neighbor that 6000 cars, still in boxes. He just bought them, no layout, no anything, just a garage full of boxes. Don't know what happened to all of them during the divorce! You just can't have enough or something like that. Best of luck with all that inventory. Now i need to get back to my clouds and lightning. The long spool of LED's will be here on Thursday. Can't wait.
Frank / Erieman
Love the coal tower, so much inspiration , can't wait for temperatures to drop and finish mine.
Quote from: Erieman on July 28, 2018, 05:19:37 PM
I love your inventory. You are one of the few that is brave enough to show how many cars are still in boxes. Been there and have a "T" shirt. I had a neighbor that 6000 cars, still in boxes. He just bought them, no layout, no anything, just a garage full of boxes. Don't know what happened to all of them during the divorce! You just can't have enough or something like that. Best of luck with all that inventory. Now i need to get back to my clouds and lightning. The long spool of LED's will be here on Thursday. Can't wait.
Frank / Erieman
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 27, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Your coal tower looks spectacular, Tom!
Always a pleasure catching up on your work!
Cheers, Mark.
You forgot to add Diet Pepsi distributorship to the public service announcement.
Do you do mail orders? I rather buy from you than ebay
;D ;D 8)
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 27, 2018, 08:43:13 PM
Really nice job on the roofing.
Curt,
Thanks for checking in, much appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: tct855 on July 27, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
A hundred sixty five of them,
Whooo, you are definitely a non compos mentis ferroequinologist. I wish I had your botheration. KP-out...
Thom,
Yepper, finally whittled down the stash to 165. Of course, I didn't count the few dozen Kadee boxcars. No need to go through them as I only bought what I wanted and what fit my time. That would be Saturday, July 18, 1953 at 3:12.38 PM. After all, every day is a Saturday here. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: mark dalrymple on July 27, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Your coal tower looks spectacular, Tom!
Always a pleasure catching up on your work!
Cheers, Mark.
Mark,
Thank you very much for the kind compliment on the tower. Always happy to see you here and I'm glad you enjoy the catching up.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 28, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
..........................Public Service Announcement...................................
The "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium" wlll reopen on Monday, July 30, 2018 after the current inventory is complete.
Greg,
Not entirely sure where the massage stuff originated but it must be on your mind for sure. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Right now, there are no store hours.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Erieman on July 28, 2018, 05:19:37 PM
I love your inventory. You are one of the few that is brave enough to show how many cars are still in boxes. Been there and have a "T" shirt. I had a neighbor that 6000 cars, still in boxes. He just bought them, no layout, no anything, just a garage full of boxes. Don't know what happened to all of them during the divorce! You just can't have enough or something like that. Best of luck with all that inventory. Now i need to get back to my clouds and lightning. The long spool of LED's will be here on Thursday. Can't wait.
Frank / Erieman
Frank,
I appreciate you stopping by for an update. Glad to hear Russ got the LED lightning working.
Enjoyed our phone conversation this morning. WOW, 6,000 cars and no layout. Must be a serious collector.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Janbouli on July 28, 2018, 06:49:30 PM
Love the coal tower, so much inspiration , can't wait for temperatures to drop and finish mine.
Jan,
Thank you for the compliment. Here's hoping you get cooler weather soon. Nothing worse than getting the juices flowing for train stuff and then having to wait.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on July 29, 2018, 01:12:34 PM
You forgot to add Diet Pepsi distributorship to the public service announcement.
Do you do mail orders? I rather buy from you than ebay
;D ;D 8)
Cousin Brucie,
Good to see you my friend. I'm not sure I want to get into listing them all on the forum. They are mostly ACL, SAL, and a mix of others. Are you looking for a certain RR or just commenting.
Tom ;D
As I mentioned earlier, the Judge and I went through all the freight cars and decided to keep about half. Any time frame over a build date of 1954 was put in the "to move/liquidate" pile. Okay, I admit I did sneak a few of the 1954 cars in as they were to neat of let go. This is where weathering comes to very good use. 8) 8)
Today I did finish the coaling tower to the point of final weathering.
The chute walkways were installed along with all the ladders, railings and lower level stairs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718170426.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718170426.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718170439.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718170453.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718170506.jpeg)
Good to know the lighting still works.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718171625.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718171625.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718171639.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-290718171639.jpeg)
Time for a cold Diet Pepsi and close shop for the day.
As Bob Parrish says, "See Ya"!
Excellent job on the coalinga tower. I think it will be a focal point on the layout.
Hi Tom,
Terrific looking coaling tower. Great progress on the newest addition to the A&S. ;D Can't wait to see it in person. ;D ;D
Tom
The coaling tower looks great - you have made a lot of progress in the past few weeks. I need to follow your lead and sort through all the boxes under the layout benchwork. Like Bob, I can't wait to see your layout in person. Maybe this spring?
Building colors and lighting look fantastic. Nice job.
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 29, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 28, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
..........................Public Service Announcement...................................
The "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium" wlll reopen on Monday, July 30, 2018 after the current inventory is complete.
Greg,
Not entirely sure where the massage stuff originated but it must be on your mind for sure. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Right now, there are no store hours.
Tom ;D
Not sure either.....but thought it sounded good. ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 29, 2018, 07:12:24 PM
Excellent job on the coalinga tower. I think it will be a focal point on the layout.
Curt,
Thank you my friend, much appreciated. The entire area has turned out better than I planned. When I walk in and see the TT, roundhouse and supporting structures, I'm amazed they all fit in the space and yet don't look crowded.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 30, 2018, 07:41:19 AM
Hi Tom,
Terrific looking coaling tower. Great progress on the newest addition to the A&S. ;D Can't wait to see it in person. ;D ;D
Bob,
Thanks very much. It's slow going at times but I still try to get 6-8 hours a day out here. The A&S is closed the next two Saturdays so maybe Saturday July 18 if you are available.
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on July 30, 2018, 07:55:20 AM
Tom
The coaling tower looks great - you have made a lot of progress in the past few weeks. I need to follow your lead and sort through all the boxes under the layout benchwork. Like Bob, I can't wait to see your layout in person. Maybe this spring?
John,
I appreciate the kind words on the coal tower. I'm finally finished with it.
And, I'm finally finished with going through all the stuff under the layout. It is now all sorted and in the corresponding area with other like items.
You know you are welcome anytime. Just give me a day or two to clean the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: vinceg on July 30, 2018, 08:20:27 AM
Building colors and lighting look fantastic. Nice job.
Vince,
Thank you for the generous and kind support on the coal tower. It was a fun kit bash build and I'll have some final photos later this evening.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 30, 2018, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on July 30, 2018, 07:41:19 AM
Hi Tom,
Terrific looking coaling tower. Great progress on the newest addition to the A&S. ;D Can't wait to see it in person. ;D ;D
Bob,
Thanks very much. It's slow going at times but I still try to get 6-8 hours a day out here. The A&S is closed the next two Saturdays so maybe Saturday July 18 if you are available.
Tom ;D
July 18th? Wow, I'm already 12 days too late. ;D I'll try to remember August 18th though. ;D ;D ;D That's okay. This Saturday I have an appointment at the bank for a closing on a home equity line of credit. We're going to remodel the kitchen next year. :o
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 30, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 29, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 28, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
..........................Public Service Announcement...................................
The "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium" wlll reopen on Monday, July 30, 2018 after the current inventory is complete.
Greg,
Not entirely sure where the massage stuff originated but it must be on your mind for sure. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Right now, there are no store hours.
Tom ;D
Not sure either.....but thought it sounded good. ;D
I thought I needed to call the Vice Squad on you! 8)
Tom ;D
Today I finished the coal tower weathering. I used Pan Pastels to lighten the rolled roofing just so I could darken it again and show some weather streaking.
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More in a few.
I spent another hour using a small brush and the Burnt Sienna Pan Pastel for all the stairs, platforms, coal chutes and railings.
Before -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300718180919.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-300718180919.jpeg)
After -
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More in a few.
I used the same Pan Pastels on the sand drying house roof.
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I assembled and then spray painted the sanding towers with Floquil Grimy Black.
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Continued after a Diet Pepsi grab.
The right side of the sand tower spans two tracks while the left spans one. I'll need to kit bash/scratch the right side to span the two tracks.
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More in a few.
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ACL 1504,
I like the weathering. Jussssst right baby bear. Looking good, one question: The sand pen is heaping. How does the railroad fill it to the height? Thanx Thom...
Quote from: tct855 on July 30, 2018, 06:38:04 PM
ACL 1504,
I like the weathering. Jussssst right baby bear. Looking good, one question: The sand pen is heaping. How does the railroad fill it to the height? Thanx Thom...
Thom,
Thanks for the kind comment. The sand is heaping as the bucket loader just left the area, in theory anyway. That is a detail that hasn't been built yet. More on that later in the thread. :-X :-X
Tom ;D
All the weathering is great but I like the metal weathering the best.
The engine service area is really coming along nicely! and quickly.
John
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 30, 2018, 05:47:14 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 30, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on July 29, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 28, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
..........................Public Service Announcement...................................
The "Langford's Hobby Shop and Massage Emporium" wlll reopen on Monday, July 30, 2018 after the current inventory is complete.
Greg,
Not entirely sure where the massage stuff originated but it must be on your mind for sure. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Right now, there are no store hours.
Tom ;D
Not sure either.....but thought it sounded good. ;D
I thought I needed to call the Vice Squad on you! 8)
Tom ;D
Nah.....Pegi keeps me out of trouble in that department. ;)
Also.....the steam service area is looking good, great progress. 8)
Awesome looking facilities!! Great weathering just enough to really show off the structure.
Jerry
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2018, 09:24:48 PM
All the weathering is great but I like the metal weathering the best.
Curt,
Thank you and as always, I appreciate your comments.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on July 31, 2018, 06:28:28 AM
The engine service area is really coming along nicely! and quickly.
John
John,
Thank you, much appreciate the compliment. Yea, I've been working on the railroad. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on July 31, 2018, 10:25:38 AM
Also.....the steam service area is looking good, great progress. 8)
Greg,
Thank you kind sir. Thanks also for checking back in.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jerry on August 04, 2018, 12:06:53 PM
Awesome looking facilities!! Great weathering just enough to really show off the structure.
Jerry
Jerry,
Thank you for the kind and generous comment on the facilities area. Appreciate you stopping by for a look see.
Tom ;D
Over the past few days, I've been able to get in my 8+ hours of work on the layout.
I need to get the track on the south end to meet with the track at the south end of the reverse/roundhouse area. First though, I need to span the St. John's River.
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A side note here for rivet counters. Keep in mind the A&S RR does things differently. Nuff said on that for now.
The branch line track crosses the river area here.
Note: The two citrus structures in the photo are only resting there. They will have a home on the north side of the river.
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More in a few.
I'm using two Atlas Through Truss bridges.
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Micro Engineering makes a 3' section of bridge track in code 83. Of course, the LHS didn't have one and I wasn't going to wait ten days to get one from Walthers. I used a regular section of ME flex track.
I soldered the bridge track section to each end of the flex track.
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More in a few.
I then made a test, third time, fit.
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Continued in a few more.
I removed the ties from another section of 3' ME track.
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I'm going to fast forward here and the bridge track, per A&S RR standards, is now complete.
The two truss bridges were glued end to end and the track was fitted for a test - AGAIN.
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Back in a few, Diet Pepsi time here. It's a very hot Saturday on the A&S RR.
The bridge track was glued in place on the two truss bridges.
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Forgot to get the Diet Pepsi, back in a few - Again.
Prior to adding the bridge structure in place, I wanted to cut in a #6 turnout for another industry.
I removed a small section of the pink foam, added a section of cork road bed and installed the turnout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161129.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161129.jpeg)
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Back in a few more.
On the Atlantic and Southern Railroad, all is on the level. Well, maybe not the politicians.
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I should have more updates tomorrow.
Awesome work as always Uncle Tommie. I love the the engine facilities and the new bridge!
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 04, 2018, 05:06:03 PM
On the Atlantic and Southern Railroad, all is on the level. Well, maybe not the politicians.
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I should have more updates tomorrow.
Especially not the politicians..... >:(
That's going to look awesome.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 05, 2018, 09:48:19 AM
That's going to look awesome.
Not only will it look Awesome, but it already IS Awesome.
Keep on building Tom.
Jim
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 05, 2018, 01:12:40 AM
Awesome work as always Uncle Tommie. I love the the engine facilities and the new bridge!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Thank you my friend. Always appreciate good support on my efforts.
I sent you a PM.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 05, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Especially not the politicians..... >:(
Yes, I agree.
Tom ;D
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 05, 2018, 09:48:19 AM
That's going to look awesome.
Curt,
Thank you and I also think this will be a great viewing area on the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 05, 2018, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 05, 2018, 09:48:19 AM
That's going to look awesome.
Not only will it look Awesome, but it already IS Awesome.
Keep on building Tom.
Jim
Jim,
Thanks Butty, I've been good these past weeks for several hours all day, especially on Saturdays. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
The reason I cut in the #6 turnout was to have a service track to Solkol's Mattress and Furniture Co. This is a Bar Mills kit fantastically built by Reading Bob.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161230.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161230.jpeg)
Foot print down and track ready.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161247.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818161247.jpeg)
More in a few.
I like putting in a foot print and rechecking it the next few days. Often the foot print gets moved a little of turned at a different angle. This one is fine as is.
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Early time in the thread for a Diet Pepsi but it is hot. I don't have the AC on in here.
Track secure and loading dock tested for/with freight cars.
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I tested Solkol's with Dr. Jeff and B and O guy cars.
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Tomorrow I hop to show where the two large citrus structures will go.
"Tomorrow I hope to show where the two large citrus structures will go."
I know, I know,!!! Been waited for some time to see those buildings finally "get planted" on Tom's layout. Tom and I have been exchanging, well actually, he has given me a sneak peek of his design and it will be awesome, as always. Tom does a wonderful job on everything he does. I'll be following his progress on his "planting " of the buildings and scenery. Best of luck with everything.
Frank / Erieman
"Tomorrow I hope to show where the two large citrus structures will go."
I can't wait to see how you plant them Tom. This new area is really taking shape. Love it!
Nice build of Sokol. More fun watching the development of this area. Jim
Quote from: Erieman on August 05, 2018, 06:15:15 PM
"Tomorrow I hope to show where the two large citrus structures will go."
I know, I know,!!! Been waited for some time to see those buildings finally "get planted" on Tom's layout. Tom and I have been exchanging, well actually, he has given me a sneak peek of his design and it will be awesome, as always. Tom does a wonderful job on everything he does. I'll be following his progress on his "planting " of the buildings and scenery. Best of luck with everything.
Frank / Erieman
I sent Frank some photos of the structure placement. Believe me, I tried a half dozen different placements. He agreed with me that this is the best solution to display the two structures. I definitely didn't want them to be parallel to the layouts edge.
I also had to move the main Tahope Hwy. The hwy now skirts the edge of the layout for about three feet.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155523.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155523.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155539.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155539.jpeg)
More in a few.
The county road will run between the two citrus buildings and cross the two tracks.
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Quote from: S&S RR on August 05, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
"Tomorrow I hope to show where the two large citrus structures will go."
I can't wait to see how you plant them Tom. This new area is really taking shape. Love it!
John,
Thank you, I'm excited about this area and the possibilities.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jrmueller on August 06, 2018, 12:25:48 PM
Nice build of Sokol. More fun watching the development of this area. Jim
Jim,
Reading Bob did an excellent job on Solkol's. I'm still in the planning stages as to what and how many structures will go in the area.
Stay tuned.
Tom ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155607.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-040818155607.jpeg)
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I should have more to show tomorrow afternoon.
Tom 8)
Love it! Well done my friend.
Really looking good Butty. You are "Da Man"
Jim
This is going to be a great looking area of your layout Tom. Not that the rest of your layout doesn't look fantastic.
Enjoying watching your scene come together, Tom.
Those structures have got some nice heft to them!
Cheers, Mark.
Quote from: S&S RR on August 06, 2018, 07:36:11 PM
Love it! Well done my friend.
John,
Thank you, very much appreciated.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 06, 2018, 09:21:04 PM
Really looking good Butty. You are "Da Man"
Jim
Butty Jim,
I appreciate your support my friend, thank you.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on August 06, 2018, 10:05:21 PM
This is going to be a great looking area of your layout Tom. Not that the rest of your layout doesn't look fantastic.
Steve,
You are most kind and generous with the comment, thank you! I'm having fun planning this thing out.
Tom ;D
Quote from: mark dalrymple on August 06, 2018, 10:37:59 PM
Enjoying watching your scene come together, Tom.
Those structures have got some nice heft to them!
Cheers, Mark.
Mark,
Thank you, appreciate you following along. It's been enjoying bringing it all together.
Yes, I agree, these two do have some heft to them. Structure #2 is a monster but fits beautifully in the scene.
Tom ;D
Mark mentioned the two citrus processing buildings have some "heft" to them. Well, they do and I was very concerned I wasn't going to be able to use them.
I moved them around for more than an hour to get the final fit as they appear now. With the road in between them, the area is every bit of 38 inches in length.
I'm buying up real estate on the layout at an alarming rate.
The turntable/roundhouse area takes up 11.5 feet. The St. Johns River 2 feet and the Solkol's area another 3.5 feet.
So, if my math is correct, I have 16-17 feet left for the town of Tahope and a couple more switching opportunities.
Forgot to crop some photos, back in a few. May as well grab a cold Diet Pepsi.
The branch line is in for the area along with the turnout.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153522.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153522.jpeg)
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More in a few.
Fast forward here and the pink foam is glued in place and the spur is in as well.
Here's an overhead view of the area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153557.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153557.jpeg)
The red 4' level is the new location of the Tahope Hwy.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153636.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153636.jpeg)
More in a few.
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Surveying and marking the roads help me to better visualize the scene. It also helps in the planning of the scenery.
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(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153738.jpeg)
More in a few.
I had to mark out the new boundaries for the road, marked in green.
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The road will cross the track in several locations. Just to the north of the Craker Boy Citrus turnout, the road will curve and cross the track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153840.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153840.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153854.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-070818153854.jpeg)
More in a few.
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More tomorrow.
Great modeling, it's really coming together. I'm looking forward to seeing the St. John's river when poured.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 07, 2018, 07:37:10 PM
Great modeling, it's really coming together. I'm looking forward to seeing the St. John's river when poured.
As long as you do not do "Mosquito Lagoon"
Jim
I remember once using a scale plan from MRR which I converted into a low relief fertilizer factory. In my usual fashion I photocopied the plan elevations and made a cardboard mock-up to set in my scene. The building was absolutely dwarfed by everything around it (Heljan brewery, Magnuson etc - all kit-bashes) even though it was true to prototype scale. I ended up blowing the plan up by a full 25% to make it work! Its now one of my favourite scenes on the layout. So... I well understand your hour of moving things around - I'm sure I would have taken three!
Cheers, Mark.
The Citrus structures are amazing. They are going to be a great addition. Moreover, I tracked back the building thread Erieman did and am enjoying learning from it. It's already got me thinking of lighting my current project.
Great job to the both of you.
Hey Tom.....you ever notice that Frank has a habit of doing things on a grand scale..... ;D ;D ;D
Really looking great Tom!! If there were ever structures worthy of spotlighting- those from Frank and Bob would be the ones.
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 07, 2018, 07:37:10 PM
Great modeling, it's really coming together. I'm looking forward to seeing the St. John's river when poured.
Curt,
Thank you for continually following along on this adventure. I'm not sure I'll pour the St. John's River or just paint the bottom and add a few coats of Mod Podge. A decision for later. :-\ :-\
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 07, 2018, 08:50:48 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 07, 2018, 07:37:10 PM
Great modeling, it's really coming together. I'm looking forward to seeing the St. John's river when poured.
As long as you do not do "Mosquito Lagoon"
Jim
Jim,
My Mosquito Lagoon is the Suwannee River Lagoon. It has plenty of "MACIDOS"!
Tom ;D
Quote from: mark dalrymple on August 07, 2018, 09:25:25 PM
I remember once using a scale plan from MRR which I converted into a low relief fertilizer factory. In my usual fashion I photocopied the plan elevations and made a cardboard mock-up to set in my scene. The building was absolutely dwarfed by everything around it (Heljan brewery, Magnuson etc - all kit-bashes) even though it was true to prototype scale. I ended up blowing the plan up by a full 25% to make it work! Its now one of my favourite scenes on the layout. So... I well understand your hour of moving things around - I'm sure I would have taken three!
Cheers, Mark.
Mark,
I spend a lot of time placing structures in an area and then leaving them in that location for a few days/week. If after a time it doesn't look right, it gets removed.
The two citrus building were going to be placed on the south side of the river area. However, they just didn't seem to fit there and looked more out of place.
This part of building a layout is fun and frustrating all in one.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jim Donovan on August 07, 2018, 09:38:03 PM
The Citrus structures are amazing. They are going to be a great addition. Moreover, I tracked back the building thread Erieman did and am enjoying learning from it. It's already got me thinking of lighting my current project.
Great job to the both of you.
Jim,
Thank you for the compliment. Frank did an outstanding job on the two citrus buildings and I'm very thankful to have them on the layout. I plan on adding more LEDs to the two structures.
Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 08, 2018, 08:31:57 AM
Hey Tom.....you ever notice that Frank has a habit of doing things on a grand scale..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Frank and I have a motto - "Come big or stay at home." 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: Cuse on August 08, 2018, 10:09:32 AM
Really looking great Tom!! If there were ever structures worthy of spotlighting- those from Frank and Bob would be the ones.
John,
Thank you, much appreciate the support. I agree, two Master builders and I have their structures on the Atlantic and Southern RR.
Tom ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 08, 2018, 08:31:57 AM
Hey Tom.....you ever notice that Frank has a habit of doing things on a grand scale..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Frank and I have a motto - "Come big or stay at home." 8)
Tom ;D
Y'all are definitely getting there..... ;D
Prior to getting into something big today, I have a few thoughts to share. I guess it was bound to happen, in fact, guaranteed to happen eventually.
I'm at the point now where I realize I'll never be able to build or use all the kits I have in the A&S stash, 200+. Even if I have Reading Bob build on a full time basis, they won't all get used or built.
I have 16 FSM unbuilt kits left and all but maybe four are New England style structures. I got rid of my 14 SRMW kits many years for the same reason.
I mentioned earlier in the thread I'm running out of real estate in the middle section. Two of the FSM built kits will take up even more room.
So, today will be spent looking at what I have and what will fit. Not just on the second level but the third level as well.
Not sure I'll be successful in doing this but I'm at the point of where a decision to "keep/build or get rid of" stage is fast approaching.
I did the same thing with my brass loco, 60+. Now down to 25+ and need to thin them as well. Just not enough time to build, paint and plant everything. Even with every day being Saturday, there seems to be an endless task of projects that never seem to end.
Tom
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 09, 2018, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 08, 2018, 08:31:57 AM
Hey Tom.....you ever notice that Frank has a habit of doing things on a grand scale..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Frank and I have a motto - "Come big or stay at home." 8)
Tom ;D
Y'all are definitely getting there..... ;D
I'm already at home so I need to go big, right?
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 09, 2018, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 08, 2018, 08:31:57 AM
Hey Tom.....you ever notice that Frank has a habit of doing things on a grand scale..... ;D ;D ;D
Greg,
Frank and I have a motto - "Come big or stay at home." 8)
Tom ;D
Y'all are definitely getting there..... ;D
I'm already at home so I need to go big, right?
Indubitably..... ;D ;D ;D
BTW.....there be coopons here. :)
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 09, 2018, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
Greg,
Frank and I have a motto - "Come big or stay at home." 8)
Tom ;D
Y'all are definitely getting there..... ;D
I'm already at home so I need to go big, right?
Indubitably..... ;D ;D ;D
BTW.....there be coopons here. :)
Okee Dokee, coopins is good. ;D ;D
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 11:17:18 AMI'm at the point now where I realize I'll never be able to build or use all the kits I have in the A&S stash, 200+. Even if I have Reading Bob build on a full time basis, they won't all get used or built.
Ready and willing. Unfortunately this darn working for a living keeps interfering with things so the able part is questionable. :(
Honored to have my Sokol's build featured across the river to Franks wonderful build. I'm looking forward to see it lit up. 8) You may not need the room lights on when that one's lit up. ;D
Tom;
Not sure if I have learned enough to build a FSM kit yet but if you decided to sell a smaller one you think would look good on the Ohio layout I would give it a go. Still, at the rate you build I suspect you'll get to a lot more then you think. If your still walking 4-6 miles a day what's a few dozen more kits? :D
By the way, your walking got me back to it, neuropathy and all, suppose to make it better. We will see.
Go for it Jim..... :D
Quote from: ReadingBob on August 09, 2018, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 09, 2018, 11:17:18 AMI'm at the point now where I realize I'll never be able to build or use all the kits I have in the A&S stash, 200+. Even if I have Reading Bob build on a full time basis, they won't all get used or built.
Ready and willing. Unfortunately this darn working for a living keeps interfering with things so the able part is questionable. :(
Honored to have my Sokol's build featured across the river to Franks wonderful build. I'm looking forward to see it lit up. 8) You may not need the room lights on when that one's lit up. ;D
Bob,
I know you are very willing and I certainly very much appreciate all you've built to date.
My problem like many is just the fact I have to many kits. I just got three more from Monster Modelworks and FOS' latest big kit on the way.
Solkol's looks perfectly suited for the area just north of Caldwell Junction. Can't wait to have the utilities company turn on the power.
Thank you for all your help. We'll get a new one in your "ready to build line" next time you are over.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Jim Donovan on August 10, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Tom;
Not sure if I have learned enough to build a FSM kit yet but if you decided to sell a smaller one you think would look good on the Ohio layout I would give it a go. Still, at the rate you build I suspect you'll get to a lot more then you think. If your still walking 4-6 miles a day what's a few dozen more kits? :D
By the way, your walking got me back to it, neuropathy and all, suppose to make it better. We will see.
Jim,
FSM kits are not as difficult to build as most think. The instructions George puts in the kits are top notch and easy to follow.
It's not that I don't want to sell you one but all the ones I have are large kits and mostly with a real estate foot print of 14 X 22 inches or larger. So see if you can fit something in the space.
I did four miles this morning but am taking tomorrow off. Walked six days straight and my feet need a rest. I have neuropathy :'(
as well. After walking for the past several years I don't see any improvement. Or maybe, the walking is keeping it in check, I have no idea.Tom ;D
I spent several hours yesterday planning the center isle area for the Town of Tahope. I used cork roadbed and track to lay out several different plans.
I did come up with one that I'm very happy with and this is where I'll start the thread. It may make no sense at first, but there is a method to my madness and it gives me many different switching moves to play with.
You'll see the plan come together as I build this area.
Erieman Frank made a suggestion to have a pallet maker next to the citrus building. So, I marked off a space and as shown below. I plan to scratch build this structure.
More on this structure later, as in months from now.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153035.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153035.jpeg)
Continued in a few.
One of the changes is to install a right hand turnout just above the right hand turnout in the bottom of the photo.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152634.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152634.jpeg)
I first unsoldered the track and moved it to the side and out of the way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152703.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152703.jpeg)
More in a few.
I cut a piece of pink foam out so the short section of cork can be glued in place.
After gluing the cork, I pinned the turnout in place using Peco track pins.
I then realigned the track. I cut off all but an inch so the track was longer that the turnout rail.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152808.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152808.jpeg)
I then removed a few ties.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152823.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152823.jpeg)
The track rail is perfectly aligned with the turnout rail. Track rail is on top of the turnout rail.
More in a few.
I moved the track rail to the side of the turnout rail as shown. I marked where the cut of the track rail should be.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152837.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152837.jpeg)
NOTE: I cut the rail about 1/16 inch longer than the turnout so I could file it down for a perfect fit.
I used a Dremel cutoff disc and filed the track rail until I had a perfect fit. In the photo below you can see the track rail and turnout rail aligned to each other. And, there is no gap between them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152852.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152852.jpeg)
More in a few.
What appears to be a gap is the black marker on the top of the rail.
I then slid two "N" scale code 80 rail joiners onto the code 83 flex track as shown below.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152907.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152907.jpeg)
The track was again aligned and the rail joiners were pushed onto the turnout rail.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152921.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152921.jpeg)
More in a few.
The track was soldered at the rail joiners. I removed the tie plates and spikes off the top of the ties and slid them under the rail. I then used a track cleaner and removed the black marker.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152937.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152937.jpeg)
Nice and neat smooth track work.
I'll have more updates tomorrow.
I'm still about 80 photos behind in the thread. It just takes time.
BTW, I mentioned this on my old thread but here is why I use Atlas "N" Scale code 80 rail joiners.
They fit the HO scale 83 track better than the Micro Engineering code 83 rail joiners. The HO Atlas code 83 rail joiners are just to big and out of scale.
The Atlas "N" Scale code 80 rail joiners are small, fit snug on the HO code 83 rail and most importantly have a low profile. You can see the low profile of these rail joiners in the above photo.
Tom,
Neat trick about that rail joiner !
Nice job on the coal tower and sand bin too.
Two questions....on page 179 of this thread...what is that black electronic device wired in series with the LED 'S....does it have a part # and rating info printed on it ?
What brand and color red color paint did you use to spray paint the 2 Atlas bridges ?
Your layout is looking more impressive everyday.
Tommy
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on August 11, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Tom,
Neat trick about that rail joiner !
Nice job on the coal tower and sand bin too.
Two questions....on page 179 of this thread...what is that black electronic device wired in series with the LED 'S....does it have a part # and rating info printed on it ?
What brand and color red color paint did you use to spray paint the 2 Atlas bridges ?
Your layout is looking more impressive everyday.
Tommy
Tommy,
Thank you for the compliments on the layout, rail joiners, sand bin and coaling tower. I appreciate the kind support.
The black device is a Current Limiter. I love this little thing as it removes all questions about what resistor to use. If I remember correctly, and I probably don't, it will handle anything from 9 to 90 volts. I got mine from Bill Satore (Slim) on this forum. They sell for $7.95 for 10 and worth every bit the price. He also sells a 5 pack for $4.50.
https://microlumina.com/ (https://microlumina.com/)
And, here is Slim's excellent tutorial on using the current limiter.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8udo01l5jy8firn/LightBites_2_CL.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8udo01l5jy8firn/LightBites_2_CL.pdf?dl=0)
This will give you all the info you need and more.
The two Atlas bridges were spray painted with Floquil Zinc Chromate Primer. A close match would be Floquil Boxcar Red.
Again, thank you for the very generous compliments on my work and layout.
Tom ;D
I think that's what Mr. Frary called "Bulletproof Trackwork" in his Pennsy layout article from long ago. Very nice work! That's why your layout will run beautifully for years and, conversely, why profanity can be heard from my layout room ::)
John
Quote from: Cuse on August 11, 2018, 05:19:17 PM
I think that's what Mr. Frary called "Bulletproof Trackwork" in his Pennsy layout article from long ago. Very nice work! That's why your layout will run beautifully for years and, conversely, why profanity can be heard from my layout room ::)
John
John,
For me smooth track work is just as important as any other aspect of the layout, which is actually everything else. I've seen and been to some beautiful layout where the track work sucked. Nothing worse than showing trains that won't run on the track.
Of course, I didn't mention the profanity here in doing the smooth track work! :-X :-X
I appreciate your continued support and compliments.
Tom ;D
I did change the track plan just a bit as I'll explain.
In the photo below, you can see the piece of track in the center. To the right of the track you should also see where I removed the cork. I decided to cut in a turnout and just removed the track and cork.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153005.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153005.jpeg)
I used sand paper and removed the cork and glue from the top of the plywood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152951.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818152951.jpeg)
More in a few.
To save some time and you the need to read more minutia, I'm going to just fast forward some here.
I found a pack of #6 cork turnout pads and decided to give them a try. If nothing else, I knew I could pull it up and sand the area and start over.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153019.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153019.jpeg)
To my surprise and great joy the #6 Peco turnout fit perfectly.
www.IBLProducts.com (http://www.iblproducts.com)
More in a few.
The new turnout was installed and the spur track was added. It's at an angle for a reason. I'll share this later in the thread but I can say this area will be the real estate for a FSM structure.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153049.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153049.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153102.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153102.jpeg)
Diet Pepsi time, back in a few.
Looking good Tom.
Hi tom:
Looks great.
Karl
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 11, 2018, 07:52:39 PM
Looking good Tom.
Curt,
Thank you and for checking on on the thread.
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on August 12, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Hi tom:
Looks great.
Karl
Karl,
Thank you kind sir.
Tom ;D
Work on the layout continues at a blistering pace these past few weeks. However, I don't have new photos cropped and uploaded to share.
The town of Tahope has a corrupt council. It is full of relatives and crackers with their hands out waiting to be greased.
Because of corruption, the Tahope County Council has the money to build a new two story Court House and Municipal Building.
Tahope has placed a contract with Magnuson for the new building.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120818165835.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-120818165835.jpeg)
If you want to follow the Magnuson build, you can check it out here.
http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/magnuson-municipal-building/ (http://modelersforum.com/kit-building/magnuson-municipal-building/)
The Tahope track laying is now complete. I'll have pictures tomorrow afternoon.
The majority of track is now finished in Tahope. There is one spur track to be laid but it will have to wait on the structure so the track will fit properly.
The track plan is such as it is so the supporting structures fit the plan. More on that later in the thread.
Looking South-
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163312.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163312.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163417.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163417.jpeg)
More in a few.
Looking back North -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163328.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163328.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163342.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163342.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163402.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163402.jpeg)
I'm going to build FSM Dexter's Dead End in this location. The three buildings need real estate measuring 10" X 20".
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818170517.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818170517.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163508.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163508.jpeg)
More in a few.
Dexter's will be modified as I need it to look more like it fits in the South. The walls will be changed and not have the Campbell's shingles on the front or sides.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163522.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163522.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163536.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163536.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163550.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-160818163550.jpeg)
I had a conversation with the A&S RR Ticket Agent this afternoon.
We decided to make one change to the track plan. A minor change with a bigger impact on the switching options.
The area is to the right of the box car.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153116.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-100818153116.jpeg)
I was planning on having a station with two side platforms to service both tracks. Good idea in theory but not so good in practice.
I cut in a right hand turnout on the inside and a left hand turnout on the outside track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164903.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164903.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164920.jpeg)
A section of pink foam board was removed so a piece of cork roadbed could be installed to give the turnout some support over the transition area.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164934.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164934.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164948.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818164948.jpeg)
Back in a few.
I did the same on the outside track.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165003.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165003.jpeg)
I have the FSM freight station and will use it as the structure here. I built this FSM kit some 35 years ago.
I'm going to redo the roof, get rid of the shingles and add rolled roofing the the two main roofs and repaint the freight deck roof.
Some other repairs need to be made to bring the structure up to code to satisfy the corrupt Tahope council.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165020.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165020.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165036.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165036.jpeg)
This is the only passenger car allowed inside the city limits of Tahope. The car can be spotted on the siding. Word has it when the car isn't in use, the council members are known to have a little dime anti poker game going on.This of course can't be verified.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165056.jpeg)
More in a few.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165111.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165111.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165126.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-170818165126.jpeg)
Tom
The new area is looking great! You have been a very busy guy. So when are we going to hear about an addition to the building. ;) ;D
Tom...
Very cool.
But what is an SP&S car doing in Florida ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
Quote from: bparrish on August 21, 2018, 01:56:48 AM
Tom...
Very cool.
But what is an SP&S car doing in Florida ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
It's on vacation!
dave
Hi Tom:
Track work looks great as usual. Love the station. Is that The FSM 235 Station?
Karl
Dave...
He better turn that SP&S around soon for the west or it will be listed as AWOL.
see ya
Bob
Quote from: S&S RR on August 20, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Tom
The new area is looking great! You have been a very busy guy. So when are we going to hear about an addition to the building. ;) ;D
John,
Thank you my friend and yes, I've been busy on the center section. No more additions, the City of Orlando said "Tom, that mother will have no more babies."
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on August 21, 2018, 01:56:48 AM
Tom...
Very cool.
But what is an SP&S car doing in Florida ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
Bob,
Thank you, much appreciated.
The SP&S is in Tahope, Fl. after delivering some very special railroad items. It will be returned when they send me the ACL boxcar back. ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: deemery on August 21, 2018, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: bparrish on August 21, 2018, 01:56:48 AM
Tom...
Very cool.
But what is an SP&S car doing in Florida ? ? ?
see ya
Bob
It's on vacation!
dave
Not sure about the vacation but I bet it was a wild ride from there to here.
Quote from: postalkarl on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
Hi Tom:
Track work looks great as usual. Love the station. Is that The FSM 235 Station?
Karl
Karl,
Much appreciated as always, than you.
Yes, it is FSM Station #235. I'm going to change the roof to rolled roofing and repaint the aluminum roof.
I built that station some 30 years ago.
Tom ;D
Quote from: bparrish on August 21, 2018, 04:54:41 PM
Dave...
He better turn that SP&S around soon for the west or it will be listed as AWOL.
see ya
Bob
The SP&S has an exchange program with the A&S RR. 8)
Tom ;D
I've been absent for the past five days. My sister was in town and I didn't get anytime to work on my AS for the past five days.
The good, er, great news is that I've been out here for the past 9 hours.
Today, I started wiring the entire center section including the reverse loop.
Feeder wires in the roundhouse area -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230818175217.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230818175217.jpeg)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230818175233.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-230818175233.jpeg)
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
Tomorrow I'll share what I plan to do with an FSM kit.
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
And we are very grateful .
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
Tomorrow I'll share what I plan to do with an FSM kit.
Thank you... now I will be unable to sleep that night... cna't wait tomorrow to see what you plan to do :)
Eric
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
What is really impressive is the amount of work you've accomplished in just the last year... I was lucky enough to have a tour of your layout last summer. Since then you have added the upper deck structure and the new peninsula down the middle. For comparison, just look at a picture from then
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/thumb_714-230818200650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33341)
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
Tom
Congratulation on the land mark - that's a lot of work and time away from your layout to share it with us. Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful layout with us.
Quote from: Janbouli on August 23, 2018, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
And we are very grateful .
Jan,
You are welcome, it has been a great ride as well.
Tom ;D
Quote from: EricQuebec on August 23, 2018, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
Tomorrow I'll share what I plan to do with an FSM kit.
Thank you... now I will be unable to sleep that night... cna't wait tomorrow to see what you plan to do :)
Eric
Eric,
Well, I need to keep you interested in following along. ;D ;D
Tom ;D
Quote from: Rollin on August 23, 2018, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
What is really impressive is the amount of work you've accomplished in just the last year... I was lucky enough to have a tour of your layout last summer. Since then you have added the upper deck structure and the new peninsula down the middle. For comparison, just look at a picture from then
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/thumb_714-230818200650.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/thumb_714-230818200650.jpeg)
Rollin,
I appreciate you following along and thanks for the compliment.
Hard to believe the 2017 NMRA open house was just over a year ago. I've been very busy since then as you can see.
I tried to enlarge your photo but lost some of the detail in doing so.
Here are two photos that span 12.5 months.
August 3, 2017 -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240818153906.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240818153906.jpeg)
August 24, 2018 -
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240818153922.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/24-240818153922.jpeg)
Quote from: S&S RR on August 23, 2018, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
Also,
The last two photos put me over the 3900 picture mark for the thread. That's a lot of photos over the past four years. An average of 975 per year, 81 per month and 2.7 per day.
WHEW! I'm tired just typing that information.
Tom
Congratulation on the land mark - that's a lot of work and time away from your layout to share it with us. Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful layout with us.
John,
Hey, thank you my friend. You know how much time and effort is involved in posting and sharing our layouts.
I think you'll agree, it's a labor of love to add the extra time to share with others.
Tom ;D
Five or six years ago Reading Bob and I swapped an unbuilt FSM kit for one on a diorama. I gave him my kit in a box and he gave me his built one on a diorama.
The kit is Jefferies Point Stave and Heading Co.
Here is where his version will be located.
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More in a few.
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Continued in a few. I'm going to need a Diet Pepsi while telling you what the plans are for this structure.
When Bob built this beautiful kit, we weren't using any LEDs to light the interior or the exteriors. This is a #1 priority for me with this building - light it up baby.
A major issue is that over time the plywood has warped a little. Installing it and screwing it down to a level position didn't seem like a good idea nor practical to me. My layout decking is 3 ply 3/8" thick. The diorama base is 4 ply 3/8" with 1/2" Homosote glued to it.
This means the diorama would have to be installed level with mine. To do this would require mounting brackets screwed to the underside of the layout and adjusted to fit. Not going to happen.
I plan to remove the structure from the diorama. I've done this to two other FSM kits on dioramas. Although it will be a bit tricksie, it isn't impossible.
I've taken extensive photos of the details around the building.
Within the coming week, I'll remove the building from the base.
More on this later next week.
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 24, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
When Bob built this beautiful kit, we weren't using any LEDs to light the interior or the exteriors. This is a #1 priority for me with this building - light it up baby.
A major issue is that over time the plywood has warped a little. Installing it and screwing it down to a level position didn't seem like a good idea nor practical to me. My layout decking is 3 ply 3/8" thick. The diorama base is 4 ply 3/8" with 1/2" Homosote glued to it.
This means the diorama would have to be installed level with mine. To do this would require mounting brackets screwed to the underside of the layout and adjusted to fit. Not going to happen.
I plan to remove the structure from the diorama. I've done this to two other FSM kits on dioramas. Although it will be a bit tricksie, it isn't impossible.
I will follow your effort for sure
Eric
I've taken extensive photos of the details around the building.
Within the coming week, I'll remove the building from the base.
More on this later next week.
I'm several posts behind in the thread update but here is a little more info on the layout build.
I did finish all the track wiring on the center isle which I refer to as the Town of Tahope.
This past Saturday, the Judge was over and we tested all the turnouts and siding for power to see if I forgot anything. I'm happy to report we had no derailments and all trains ran smoothly and efficiently including the reverse loop section.
Greg and Reading Bob were here as witnesses to the smooth running.
I used DCC Specialties PSX-AR for the reverse loop. I wired it in series with the other two auto reversers I'm using on the second level.
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I'm also in the process of painting the track (rail and ties) and am up the the roundhouse and turntable cutoff. I'll stop here as I'm waiting on a new DCC turntable from Walthers.
I'll start ballasting the track at the south end of the St. John's River area and work north while waiting on Walthers.
Quote from: EricQuebec on August 24, 2018, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 24, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
When Bob built this beautiful kit, we weren't using any LEDs to light the interior or the exteriors. This is a #1 priority for me with this building - light it up baby.
A major issue is that over time the plywood has warped a little. Installing it and screwing it down to a level position didn't seem like a good idea nor practical to me. My layout decking is 3 ply 3/8" thick. The diorama base is 4 ply 3/8" with 1/2" Homosote glued to it.
This means the diorama would have to be installed level with mine. To do this would require mounting brackets screwed to the underside of the layout and adjusted to fit. Not going to happen.
I plan to remove the structure from the diorama. I've done this to two other FSM kits on dioramas. Although it will be a bit tricksie, it isn't impossible.
I will follow your effort for sure.
Eric
Eric,
Glad to have you along on the journey. I'll be starting the structure removal tomorrow afternoon. 8)
See you then.
Tom ;D
I can be persuaded to testify.....for a small renumeration. ;D
Hey Tom:
Bob did A great job on this kit and it will look right a home on your layout.
Karl
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 27, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
I can be persuaded to testify.....for a small renumeration. ;D
Greg,
No need, your comment alone says it all went well. If not, you'd say so. 8) 8)
Thanks butty!
Tom ;D
Quote from: postalkarl on August 28, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
Hey Tom:
Bob did A great job on this kit and it will look right a home on your layout.
Karl
Karl,
Yes, he did as usual. It fits perfectly in the purchased real estate.
Tom ;D
I started the removal of Jefferies Heading from the diorama today. These are the tools I'll be using if all goes as planned.
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If not, I'll be using these instead.
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Naw, just kidding. Sort of that is. ;D ;D
More in a few.
I started by removing the rails from the ties and wetting the area with warm water. I added a few drops of liquid dish soap to help with the water soaking on the old scenery.
I let the water soak in for about ten minutes.
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After ten minutes, I tested the glue and scenery with the #17 Xacto blade.
It was starting to loosen but still a little sticky. I applied more water using the eye dropper and waited another few minutes.
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I also soaked the area of the stairs while the ties were being removed. I let the water sit here for about 15 minutes.
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I then carefully and gently slid the #17 Xacto blade under the stairs and loosened the scenery. I then very carefully removed the stair sub assembly from the diorama.
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I'll have more to report later this afternoon.
Stay tuned.
Some painstaking surgery there.
George
Quote from: geoawelch on August 29, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Some painstaking surgery there.
George
George,
Yes, it is. This is my third FSM diorama kit removal. And, probably the last. I appreciate you following along on this one.
Tom ;D
Using the putty knife helps remove larger portions of the scenery from the structure.
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More wet water was added to this area. I'll come back to it later.
More in a few.
The road was the next to be removed. I let the Homosote under the road soak up some of the water and then used the putty knife to remove a great portion of the plaster/water putty road.
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You can see in the above photo where I saturated the out house area with water to loosen more of the scenery.
Out house and more scenery/road was removed.
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More in a few.
I worked my way around the structure and removed 98% the scenery and PA dirt from the diorama.
I then used the Xacto #11 blade and cut along the bottom of the four sides. I did this to cut into the Homosote to ease in removing the structure when ready.
I used the flat #17 Xacto blade and carefully slid it under the structure every 1/2 inch or so. As the glue softened, I gently pried up a corner and slipped the pointed tool under it. I wanted to keep any raised portion of the kit out of the tacky glue/water mix.
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More in a few.
After lifting each corner, the building came up. Success!
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The loading dock was next and the hardest to remove.
I applied a very liberal amount of wet water to the bottom sides of the dock. It took about 30 minutes before I could remove it. I used the #17 flat blade for this surgery.
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More in a few.
I wasn't sure how much of the water the dock soaked up. I'm using the weights to hold it in place/flat for two days to make sure it doesn't warp as it dries.
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I'll need to make a few minor repairs to the one long wood loading dock and I have all the pieces, easy peasy.
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Continued after grabbing a cold Diet Pepsi.
It took the better part of 3 hours to remove this beautiful Reading Bob built FSM kit.
Here it is in place for a test fit, without the diorama base and details. I'll get it fixed, add LED lighting and add it to the south end of Tahope.
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Wow! That was some operation. :P I was biting my nails the whole time. Couldn't remember how much glue I used to glue that puppy down. I built that when I lived up in PA so it was over 19 years ago. ;D
Bob,
Thanks for stopping by and following the removal. I've had it here, after our swap, for the past 6-7 years.
Beautiful structure and quality job my friend. I can't wait to get it in place where it belongs.
Tom ;D
Man....that was freakin' amazing, Tom. Wow. Great build also, Bob.
But, the more important question: Where does one find friends like Bob in Chicago that will take unbuilt kits in exchange for skillfully constructed ones?
Hi Tom:
You did a great job with the removal. Can't wait to see it installed on the layout.
Karl
One word....."freaking Amazing"..........OK, two words.
Jim
Tom, you have a lot of guts. Thank god it came out very well or Bob would never forgive you and not have any more builds for you in the future.
To Both Tom and Reading Bob
Beautiful job Guys! I can't wait to see how the final scene will come out. The first round of Diet Pepsi is on me!
;D ;D ;D
Brave, Tom - very brave!
Nice job and well worth the effort!
Cheers, Mark.
I've taken a building off a dio or two. This is not how they've turned out!Great job Tom.JD
The Demon of Demo.....the Dr. of Destruction.....does it again......well done Tom. 8) 8) 8)
The most dangerous thing in home improvement is a homeowner with a Sawzall! (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg) (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)
Glad you didn't have to resort to the power tools!
dave
Wow - Tom
I was really concerned in the first few pictures. It's going to look great! Once you figure out what you want to do you just need to go for it.
Quote from: deemery on August 30, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
The most dangerous thing in home improvement is a homeowner with a Sawzall! (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg) (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)
Glad you didn't have to resort to the power tools!
dave
All great model railroaders know how to use this tool.
Quote from: vinceg on August 29, 2018, 07:28:26 PM
Man....that was freakin' amazing, Tom. Wow. Great build also, Bob.
But, the more important question: Where does one find friends like Bob in Chicago that will take unbuilt kits in exchange for skillfully constructed ones?
Vince,
It was a fun project as well. This was my third and the easiest. Don't get any ideas of having Reading Bob move anywhere near Chicago. It was pure luck to find Bob here in Central Florida.
To answer your question, I have no idea where to find a Bob up your way! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tom 8)
Quote from: postalkarl on August 29, 2018, 07:57:39 PM
Hi Tom:
You did a great job with the removal. Can't wait to see it installed on the layout.
Karl
Karl,
Thanks very much. It came off really nice and neat. I hope to get it installed within the month of September.
Tom ;D
Quote from: jimmillho on August 29, 2018, 08:31:56 PM
One word....."freaking Amazing"..........OK, two words.
Jim
Jim,
I appreciate you following along.
Tom ;D
Quote from: sdrees on August 29, 2018, 10:10:44 PM
Tom, you have a lot of guts. Thank god it came out very well or Bob would never forgive you and not have any more builds for you in the future.
Steve,
I knew this one was going to be an easy one compared to Cartwright's Machine Shop. Now that one was a tough one to remove.
Tom ;D
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on August 29, 2018, 10:47:52 PM
To Both Tom and Reading Bob
Beautiful job Guys! I can't wait to see how the final scene will come out. The first round of Diet Pepsi is on me!
;D ;D ;D
Cousin Brucie,
Much appreciated, thank you kind sir. I'll take you up on the Diet Pepsi. In fact, I need one now.
Tom ;D
Quote from: mark dalrymple on August 30, 2018, 04:43:22 AM
Brave, Tom - very brave!
Nice job and well worth the effort!
Cheers, Mark.
Mark,
Thank you and I agree it was worth the effort. It will be a fantastic addition to the layout.
Tom ;D
Quote from: RailroadKits on August 30, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
I've taken a building off a dio or two. This is not how they've turned out!Great job Tom.JD
Jimmy,
Thank you kind sir.
I have to admit this one was an easy one. I'm very fortunate this one came off as it did. Makes adding it to the new location much easier.Tom ;D
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 30, 2018, 08:46:39 AM
The Demon of Demo.....the Dr. of Destruction.....does it again......well done Tom. 8) 8) 8)
Greg,
I can definitely get some demo going when I need to. Thank you my friend.
Tom ;D
Quote from: deemery on August 30, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
The most dangerous thing in home improvement is a homeowner with a Sawzall! (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg) (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/3125ArHbuoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)
Glad you didn't have to resort to the power tools!
dave
Dave,
I have a DeWalt Sawzall and it works very well in removing studs. I also have the back up ---- DeArm and Hammer. 8) 8)
Tom ;D
Quote from: S&S RR on August 30, 2018, 09:54:06 AM
Wow - Tom
I was really concerned in the first few pictures. It's going to look great! Once you figure out what you want to do you just need to go for it.
John,
It came off easy peasy, no problems.
And, you are correct. Once I decide on something, it's pretty much a done deal. LOL!
Tom ;D
I've reached page 198 in little over 15 months. I locked my last thread, part 1, and started this one on May 11, 2017.
I started the layout thread on December 21, 2013. That was two parts to the A&S RR involving 394 pages and 462,766 views.
Thank you all for all the great support and comments.
I'm locking this thread now as it is a prudent decision.
After speaking with Jimmy D. I don't want this part 2 to reach page 200. The last time I reached page 200, the forum crashed. Well, my thread crashed and I had to go back and repost close to 700 photos.
The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3 will begin later this evening.
As Mark says, Cheers,
Tom
;D