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Good evening everyone,


This is the beginning of two models. A clue: I have already made them. Wait a minute, this is too easy, especially for those that have either been to my layout or followed my thread. S-o-o, the answer is Yakima Apples I, Yakima Apples will follow.
I have learned that on many scratch built structures, you have to be concerned about warping, hence the note on the inside of the base "interior braces". The base is the most important part in maintaining squareness in all three planes. The cardstock base is 5 ply and the stone walls for the building are from New England Brownstone. They are glued with Elmers yellow glue and hot glue to the base and each other. All the walls have been rough cut. Final cuts and window openings and back bracing will follow. I scrounged thru my window and door box and have found most, but not all. The balance of the doors and windows have been ordered.


So this is the beginning of Yakima Apples I. Follow along and enjoy. And when this is done, I will start on Yakima Apples II


Frank / Erieman

Wow- you made it back to the workbench.  Looking forward to watching the build.

Frank,
   Nice thread.  Let's see how fast someone gets this.  I'm all eye's.  Thanx Thom...

Frank,
Glad to see you posting another build thread.  I will definitely be following along.

Frank,

Looks like the start of another one of your masters.

I'll  be in the crowd looking over somebody's shoulder.

Tom ;D

Me too..... :)

Make it three Watchers.

Jim

Quote from: jimmillho on May 24, 2017, 11:15:40 AM
Make it three Watchers.

Jim

They don't call me FOUR eyes for nutin!

Thanks to all that stopped by. Yes, I am back at it, but not without issues. Still lots of house projects. Several plants to be moved. Had 20 tons of gravel moved in the back yard and it looks like I need another 20 tons. To make things worse, I seem to have a couple of my teeth causing some problems. Had a root canal yesterday and going back in tomorrow for another root canal. A side effect has been some swelling on my chin. NO More PLEASE !!!


Back to the model. As  I mentioned in my prior post, i have added internal bracing using the same 5 ply cardstock. It is hot glued in place to insure that the base does not experience any warping. The base sits on a glass table and sits very flat. That's a good thing! With that done and working, it is time to move on. I have cut the window and door openings to two walls. Many more walls to go. I did not have all the doors you see, so I have had to purchase more which I expect in a couple of weeks. Then I can finish painting the walls. Then assemble all the walls, but I am getting ahead of myself. Too keep my hand from cramping, I will be adding bracing to the cut walls. There are several walls to cut, assemble before I start any painting. More soon.


Frank / Erieman                         

Hi Frank:

Looking great so far. I'm following along.

Karl

I've not thought about internal bracing like this.  Looks like it would help especially in a taller building.  Neat.


Jeff

Quote from: postalkarl on May 25, 2017, 07:46:49 AM
Hi Frank:

Looking great so far. I'm following along.

Karl

Karl,


Thanks for Stopping by. This is building one of two. Both are scratch built, which I enjoy building. My documentation is not the greatest, so the original model is on the table adjacent to the build serving as a reference. More soon.


Frank / Erieman 

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on May 25, 2017, 08:25:44 AM
I've not thought about internal bracing like this.  Looks like it would help especially in a taller building.  Neat.


Jeff

Jeff,


Thanks for stopping by. I think any wooden structure should be braced depending on size. The original Yakima Apples was braced and I have had no warping. Another structure that is on the layout is Ironia Station, and almost upon completion, the building started to warp. the solution at the time was hot glue. Not the best, but only idea that I could come up with. I am expecting a crack sound sometime in the future. East end Market has a slightly different approach. I built an inner box beam and then put all the exterior sides to the box. That has worked out the best. Another advantage of this technique is the ability to take the model off the layout at some time in the future, like when we downsize. I don't think that any plastic building needs bracing due to the inherent structural characteristics of the material.


Frank / Erieman

Good Evening All,


Yesterday was not a very productive one. I had another day in the dentist chair. Not fun. With all of that ( hopefully) over with, I was able to get quite a bit of the building done today. all the walls have been cut and braced. I had a bit of a hard time finding a new bottle of the acrylic paint. Got lucky at Hobby Lobby. So now I am going to put on the first layer of paint. According to my notes, there is seven layers of paint on the walls. WHEW. I'll let you know. In the meantime, here is a photo of the exterior walls. Enjoy.


Frank / Erieman

Good Evening,


Well, the first paint coat of many has been applied. I used a thin coating of water based acrylic paint, then wiped it dry so it appears somewhat transparent. You can see the wood grain. Several coats of A&I, white pigment, nail holes and damaged boards will be done in the coming days. The corners posts have also been painted. I use a white wash that will be stained with A&I medium tomorrow. SO, in a couple of days I will be able to install the doors and windows. I try to have each wall complete as much as possible before final assembly. The concrete base has been painted with A&I and will absorb into the plaster over the next couple of days. The I will use a couple of chalks to apply different colors to the rocks. More soon.

looking great Frank!  Where do you get that thick card stock?  I was looking at the "task board" that Micro Mark sells, have you ever used that stuff for scratch building? I was thinking of buying some.....

Quote from: rpdylan on May 27, 2017, 02:02:26 AM
looking great Frank!  Where do you get that thick card stock?  I was looking at the "task board" that Micro Mark sells, have you ever used that stuff for scratch building? I was thinking of buying some.....

Bob,


I purchased the 5 ply cardstock from a local Art store. I don't think Hobby Lobby or Michael's would carry this product.  It takes several swipes with a knife to get through it, but I have found it to work very well. I have seen task board but cannot answer how it would work in this situation. I think it would be fine. One question though, Can you make a cut to the task board if the bracing was assembled. Sometimes I have had to make a cut with the entire base and bracing assembled. Just wondering.


Thanks for stopping by. Next couple of posts will deal with the painting technique that i used on the building.


Frank / Erieman

Outstanding craftsmanship Frank!!

Wow!  Great start on this build Frank.  I'm following along

Good Morning All.


This weathering technique is one that I saw in one of Bob Van Gelder's SRMW kits. I have experimented and expanded what Bob demonstrated. Since using it on Yakima Apples, I have used it several other times. I use water base acrylics exclusively. I really like the color options and the consistency of color, bottle to bottle.
STEP ONE - After the wood has been braced on the back, I erase any pencil marks that might be on the front surface. Since I am going to do a lot of panels, I have a large painting surface. Assemble the following: A 1" brush, a container with clean water and a container for the paint. I do not use the paint full strength, because it hides all the wood details. So-o-o, add a bit of water to the brush, dip it into the paint and mix it to a creamy consistency. Not to runny or not to thick. This will take a bit of experimentation.


Work quickly to apply the paint to one board at a time checking to see how it is drying. Too wet and you will wipe of most of the paint. Too dry and it will be difficult to get the right amount removed. Again, experiment. Apply paint to one board at a time and then wipe each panel before it dries
Wipe the panels with a good clean cloth. like a terry towel. The tooth of the towel helps to remove paint in the cracks of the clapboard siding.
Once finished painting every panel, let it dry overnight.


STEP TWO - I have three bottles of A&I; light, medium and dark. After the panels have dried, Apply a medium coat of A&I and let dry. I work with a sample panel so that I can verify color, stain ,etc.. The sample panel is a piece of clapboard siding that has been braced and is of a size that I can experiment with BEFORE I actually execute painting or staining.


The following photo shows you the grain of the wood after the paint has been applied and wiped.


Next up, Stain and first coat of weathering.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Thanks for the excellent tutorial on how you paint and weather the walls.

I really like the color. You are doing an excellent job on a repeat structure.

Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on May 28, 2017, 01:28:17 PM
Frank,

Thanks for the excellent tutorial on how you paint and weather the walls.

I really like the color. You are doing an excellent job on a repeat structure.

Tom ;D

Tom,


Thanks for stopping by. More tutorial follows. There are  total of five layers of pigment, with a few other elements thrown in. All exterior walls have been cut, braced, painted with the base coat of green. The second element is medium A&I.  Again, using the sample piece. Check the color or technique BEFORE proceeding with the balance of the next layer. That means apply the layer and letting it dry for 12 to 24 hours. Don't work about consistency. The next level is called grime and the application is interesting.
The pic below is the sample with the total background with the first coat and 1/2 of the second coat applied. A&I give s the green color an interesting "dull" appearance. It is difficult to see this effect on the photo. The goal is to apply a color that appears "worn".
Tomorrow, I will paint what I call grime. Stay tuned.


Frank / Erieman

    Now that the first "layer" has been applied to all the panels and dried, it is time to apply the next level. You might ask, what is Frank trying to show with all these levels. Well, good question. The multiple layers are added to show a building that had deteriorating paint on it and that in some cases, you can see the base material. We don't want to see the wood, hence the first coat of green. Level two is the application of A&I to darken the first green color. I used "Greenscape" from Folk Art Acrylic paint. It is a nice warm blue green.
    With the first application of A&I, the green takes on a totally different color and it is now somewhat darker. Once the A&I has been applied to all the panels, it is now time to apply the third level. I use Americana "White Wash". I thin the pigment slightly to get a very light coat. I do not brush it on, but "dry brush" it on only parts of the wooden siding. using a 3/4" nylon brush, I highlight the "tips" of each board. This implies that the tip is the only part of the siding that still has some pigment from the original application, which was white. Let this dry overnight.
    With the "white wash now dry, I now add the nail holes using a pounce wheel. After that is done to all panels, I apply A&I to each panel to highlight the nail holes. This is also a good time to highlight some of the boards by taking a knife and lifting them to give the appearance of siding that is warping. You can do as little or as much as you want. You might want to do panels that are on one side of the building implying that the weather is "typically" from that side. Your call. I typically do one side more heavily that the others, but each side has some form of distressed siding.
   After letting the white layer dry, i apply a " full strength" layer of dry brushed white pigment. These seems excessive and there are 12 panels, but the end result is quite interesting.  The important thing is not to be in a rush.


I added the last picture to show a close up of the final layer. looking at the pic you will see from left to right, a light application of "white wash" ( name of the paint) and on the right side, a heavier dry brush. Your call on what you want to use.


Frank / Erieman

I forgot to mention something very important on the prior post - brush strokes. On the first application of "White wash", apply using horizontal strokes. This layer is mixed with a bit of water. ( dip you brush occasionally)brush the paint / water mixture horizontally in a random pattern.


With the second coat of White Wash, the application is small amounts of full strength applied from top to bottom. Some places you want to see the green beneath. This is random and you best experiment with this technique until you understand it and, more importantly, you like the final results.


Frank / Erieman

Very cool Frank. That's some of the most complex bracing I've ever seen on the interior of a structure. Looks like a great building design too. I'm following along with this one.

-Steve

Frank,
Fantastic tutorial on how you finish your walls.  Thank you so much for sharing, you made it easy to understand and follow from your text and photos.  I had never thought of using A/I as an intermediate step.  Great tutorial!!!

Love the job you did on the walls Frank.....can't wait to see this one up close.  8)

Quote from: GPdemayo on May 30, 2017, 08:55:17 AM
Love the job you did on the walls Frank.....can't wait to see this one up close.  8)

Greg,


Thanks for stopping by. Still a long way to go and there are two structures!!!


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: jerryrbeach on May 30, 2017, 07:18:39 AM
Frank,
Fantastic tutorial on how you finish your walls.  Thank you so much for sharing, you made it easy to understand and follow from your text and photos.  I had never thought of using A/I as an intermediate step.  Great tutorial!!!

Jerry,


Thanks for your kind words. Glad you are enjoying the post. As i mentioned, I have used A&I in many ways and find it very inexpensive and works great. I need to have someone try this technique and reconfirm how it works.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: SteveCuster on May 29, 2017, 03:41:41 PM
Very cool Frank. That's some of the most complex bracing I've ever seen on the interior of a structure. Looks like a great building design too. I'm following along with this one.

-Steve

Steve,


Thanks for stopping by. Bracing is one of the most important parts of any scratchbuilt structure. You would hate to take all this time to build something only to have it warp. Been there and have the "T" shirt. Not going back. Bracing is quick and cheap.


Frank / Erieman

Good evening All,


Well the weather here in Arizona has turned to hot ( hot being defined temperatures over 100 degrees) That is the daytime high which is 30 degrees above the low temp. So-o-o-o, here sit in the train room where it is nice and cool. Progress on Yakima Apples building one is proceeding nicely. As you can see from the attached photo, all the walls have been painted / weathered, braced, windows installed. I am still waiting for the balance of the windows and doors to complete the rest of the wall assembly. I am also awaiting the LED lamps for the building. Everything needs to be installed to the walls before final assembly. After all the wall assembly, it will be time to build all the platforms around the building. The fun never stops.


I am also "cooking" steel wool and vinegar for the colorant of the base stone wall. I will have to "cook" for a couple of days to get the right color I am seeking.
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Hi Frank,

You are making great progress on your Yakima Apples and it is looking very good.  Who's LED's are you using.

Quote from: sdrees on June 01, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Hi Frank,

You are making great progress on your Yakima Apples and it is looking very good.  Who's LED's are you using.

Steve,


What ever Tom ACL1504 sends me. Okay, the cat is out of the bag. Yakima Apples I & II will be renamed and will become a structure for sorting and packaging oranges. Florida Oranges. Been quite busy on outside work. took deliver of 24 tons of granite for the backyard. No, I did not shovel it and wheel barrel it. I just raked it and that, my friend, has been a lot of raking. A little more to to tomorrow morning. Done, Not. Need to order another 15 plus tons.
I work on the building after it gets too hot or there are no other honey do projects on the list. A couple more to go, then I can get back to building full steam.


Frank / Erieman

Gee Frank,
That's quite a cat you just let out of the bag!  I've been wondering why a second build of this structure, now I know.  Following along, as usual.

Quote from: Erieman on June 03, 2017, 07:11:59 PM

Quote from: sdrees on June 01, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Hi Frank,

You are making great progress on your Yakima Apples and it is looking very good.  Who's LED's are you using.

Steve,


What ever Tom ACL1504 sends me. Okay, the cat is out of the bag. Yakima Apples I & II will be renamed and will become a structure for sorting and packaging oranges. Florida Oranges. Been quite busy on outside work. took deliver of 24 tons of granite for the backyard. No, I did not shovel it and wheel barrel it. I just raked it and that, my friend, has been a lot of raking. A little more to to tomorrow morning. Done, Not. Need to order another 15 plus tons.
I work on the building after it gets too hot or there are no other honey do projects on the list. A couple more to go, then I can get back to building full steam.


Frank / Erieman

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I'm using 3V DC Nano Warm White LED's.

I'll be sending Frank 4 goose neck w/LEDs, 2 LEDs for under the canopy roof and 1 on a light pole.

I'll be making them this coming week. I haven't decided on a sign as yet. I have a book of over 1500 citrus labels.

Here is one of the finalists.

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Good Afternoon All,


A little bit of gravel spreading this morning, very early this morning, and then train room for most of the day, well almost. Anyway, here are pics of the Yakima Apples bldg I as of today. The steel wool and white vinegar is still cooking. That will be used to weather the plaster building stone base. A few more walls were added today. The floor in the main storage room was also added and stained with A&I. With this area being illuminated, it should show well. Tom is looking at the orange crate labels. There are so many from Florida, it is going to be a hard choice. Still waiting for the freight doors, factory doors and baggage doors. Not something that most hobby shops carry anymore, so you have to wait until Walthers gets them in. Not my favorite arrangement. I probably should have purchased them direct. Next time for sure.


Next up will be all the staining and cutting of lumber for the loading docks.


On a side note, I am going for my MMR. Thursday I had my layout judging for scenery. 115 out of a possible 125. four down, three to go.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
The further you get, the better this looks.  This structure has so much character and history already, cannot wait to see it completed. 
And, congrats on your score for the scenery judging, your scenery is excellent.   

The structure is coming together nicely.  Can't imagine what the judges were able to deduct from your wonderful scenery.  Congrats on advancing toward your MMR.


Jeff

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 05, 2017, 07:46:25 AM
The structure is coming together nicely.  Can't imagine what the judges were able to deduct from your wonderful scenery.  Congrats on advancing toward your MMR.


Jeff

Thanks Jeff,


I'm hoping i can finish my MMR by years end. Two of the judges wanted to give me full score on each category, but the AP person had to find something. If I told you, you would still be laughing. No big. Interestingly enough, the AP chair does NOT have his MMR. Go figure. I will continue to press on. Thanks for stopping by.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: jerryrbeach on June 05, 2017, 07:43:18 AM
Frank,
The further you get, the better this looks.  This structure has so much character and history already, cannot wait to see it completed. 
And, congrats on your score for the scenery judging, your scenery is excellent.

Jerry,


Thank you for your kind words. I think Tom will be pleased with them. Looking forward to seeing what he will do with the structures. Glad you like the scenery. Lot more to go. Pictures only show you part of the total layout that is completed. i think i need to look at a video. I'll put it on the list.


Frank / Erieman

Okay guys,


Progress has been somewhat slow the last couple of days. Working on honey-do projects that I let slide for a bit while working on the layout before Lou Sassi took photos of the layout. The list is getting smaller. I still have a few more things to do, but that is another day. Yakima Apples I is closing in. Been taking to Tom (ACL 1504) about some of the details of the building and what label he wants on the signage and crates, to name a few.


The attachments show the roof patterns on and the elevator shaft being roughed in. Because there will be lighting in and outside the building, I have to wait until Tom sends the LED's. I still can continue on the elevator shaft, roof overhangs and all the decking around the building. Also need to find where I got the chimneys.


As I look at both buildings, I think that the main building also needs another coat of A&I. The existing building is a bit darker and another medium or even dark A&I might just help make the building look a bit older.


Frank / Erieman


   

Good Evening Everyone,


I have a favor to ask. As many of you know, I have a lot of birds on many of the buildings on my layout. All the birds are from SRMW kits. I have looked at other birds and have not found any that compare. My original model of Yakima Apples had quite a few birds on each building and I would like to add this feature on the buildings that I am making for Tom.


Since Bob is no longer in business, i have a request from fellow modelers. Do any have any of the cast metal sprue with the birds on it from SRMW ( South River Model Works )? I am know for all my buildings with birds, but with no source anymore, I am asking fellow modelers if they might have a few. Drop me a PM. Thanks.


Frank / Erieman

Frank, have you tried the BEST pigeons?  I think they look pretty good.  They are comparable in size to the SRMW ones.  The top set are from my recent SRMW build.  The ones in this bag, unfortunately, have no heads.   :o  If you order some, ask for the ones that are not headless.   ;D


Jeff

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 07, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
Frank, have you tried the BEST pigeons?  I think they look pretty good.  They are comparable in size to the SRMW ones.  The top set are from my recent SRMW build.  The ones in this bag, unfortunately, have no heads.   :o  If you order some, ask for the ones that are not headless.   ;D


Jeff

You need a scale cat to account for the headless pigeons!


dave

Jeff & Dave,


I have seen The pigeons from Best and in my humble opinion, with head or headless, are no where near the caliber of the pigeons from SRMW. Perhaps best will buy the molds from Bob, but for now, i'll stick with the SRMW pigeons, with heads.
I'll keep looking. Hopefully, someone has some they want to donate to Tom's buildings.


Frank / Erieman

Frank, I have five of the "trees" of the SRMW pigeons. Eighty pigeons in all.  PM me your address if you'd like them. 


Jeff

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 07, 2017, 02:51:32 PM
Frank, I have five of the "trees" of the SRMW pigeons. Eighty pigeons in all.  PM me your address if you'd like them. 


Jeff

Frank


Your better hurry - Jeff already has my address. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: S&S RR on June 07, 2017, 03:41:34 PM

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on June 07, 2017, 02:51:32 PM
Frank, I have five of the "trees" of the SRMW pigeons. Eighty pigeons in all.  PM me your address if you'd like them. 


Jeff

Frank


Your better hurry - Jeff already has my address. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No worries John, PM sent, These will really come in handy on both of the buildings. Thank you Dr. Jeff.


Frank / Erieman

THANK YOU DR. JEFF.  Your bird contribution is greatly appreciated and I am sure that Tom (ACL 1504) will thank you as well. The birds really will make the building come alive. Details like this are great. I only with that Bob Van Gelder would have kept his casting business alive, but we all retire sometime. Going to miss his wonderful kits as I am sure others will. Thank you again for your birds.


Frank / Erieman

Well, after a couple of weeks waiting for door and window components along with two trips, one to Anaheim and the second to Whistler, B.C.,  building one  is back. On building one, the LED lights have been installed and will be wired tomorrow. Painting and weathering of the doors and windows will be done tomorrow, then glazing of the doors and windows will then be done. Once the doors are installed on building one, I can finish installing the two remaining walls. The roofs have been cut. The top roof is standing seam and the other roofs are tar paper. Both roofs will be next. The last major component to build will be the decks. There are a lot of them and they are very dainty.

I'll post progress photos tomorrow.

Frank / Erieman

Doors are painted and installed. Looking ahead, i found that I do not have nor do I know who made the chimneys. Here is a pic. Any idea who made or makes these. The chimney is about three inches long. Please help me with the manufacture name so I can order a few. Could not find them in my stash of parts.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
That was part # 254-18... by Durango Press....Think new owner of the castings is....
JL Innovative... here is the new link....http://www.shop.jlinnovative.com/Victorian-Chimney-018.htm
Durango Press Detail Accessories & Parts  >>  Victorian Chimney
Victorian Chimney
Cast metal Victorian style chimney.

    Item #: 018

Victorian Chimney
Price: $2.95

Tommy

Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on July 04, 2017, 03:56:32 PM
Frank,
That was part # 254-18... by Durango Press....Think new owner of the castings is....
JL Innovative... here is the new link....http://www.shop.jlinnovative.com/Victorian-Chimney-018.htm (http://www.shop.jlinnovative.com/Victorian-Chimney-018.htm)
Durango Press Detail Accessories & Parts  >>  Victorian Chimney
Victorian Chimney
Cast metal Victorian style chimney.

    Item #: 018

Victorian Chimney
Price: $2.95

Tommy

Tom,


Thanks for finding the chimney. I thought that would built it, but could not find it on their website. You are the man. Will order a few more that required because that are always needed.


Frank / Erieman

Is this thread going to the birds?  ??? .....great progress Frank.  8)

Good Evening Greg and all others that follow,


It was a bit toasty here today. It is currently 7:46 pm and it is 109 outside. While I had some outside chores this morning, I did get some train room time  this afternoon. I was able to complete the base for building #2. All the windows and doors for building #2 are painted, weathered and glazed. I hope to start cutting the walls tomorrow.


Building #1 is closing in. All the walls are glued together. All remaining doors are installed. Awnings are installed on four first floor windows in the office portion of the building. The roof over the sorting/ shipping room has been glued and the tar paper room has begun. The elevator tower is also glued in place. Once the LED's are wired and tested, I can finish the cardstock roof underlayment. Styrene ribbed roofing will be added later. All the roof overhangs will have rafter tails protruding from the exterior walls. Once the tarpaper roof over the sorting/ shipping room has been completed, I can build and install the water tank.


As I mentioned in my prior post, the loading docks are last to be built and installed. They are the most fragile element to this structure, so I like to build them last. The building has been mounted on pink foam. Actually, it has been tacked ( small amount of glue to tack the building to the foam). This makes it easier to handle, mount the loading docks and also serves as part of the shipping frame for the box to its new owner, ACL 1504.


To be continued tomorrow:


Frank / Erieman   

Good afternoon everyone,


Progress is being made on building one. LED lighting has been installed. Wish this technology was available when I built many of my scratchbuilt structures. Awesome stuff. It would be a major project to implement this now.


I need some help with another chimney. see photo. Anyone know the manufacturer, please let me know. More structure pics tomorrow.


Frank / Erieman

couldn't you fabricate one out of Monstorworks materials and some styrene? Otherwise looking good!!

Quote from: sdrees on July 05, 2017, 08:18:05 PM
couldn't you fabricate one out of Monstorworks materials and some styrene? Otherwise looking good!!

Steve,


Thought about that, but too much work. I am getting used to electronic buying. Just need to find someone who knows who the manufacturer is.


Frank / Erieman

Took a couple pics of the LED lighting on the first building. All I can say is that the lighting really helps. I guess I could do this to some of my buildings if I really thought about it. It would be a tough job for sure. Now that the lights are installed, I can install the rest of the rolled roofing and the underlayment roofing for the raised seamed roofing. Progress is happening.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
             I agree with you on the lights.  This building is sick!  Congrats to you sir!  Keep on keepin' on!  Thanx Thom...

Quote from: tct855 on July 05, 2017, 10:44:34 PM
Frank,
             I agree with you on the lights.  This building is sick!  Congrats to you sir!  Keep on keepin' on!  Thanx Thom...

Thom,


Yup, I am trucking on the model as you will see in the attached photos. The roof on the shipping area is complete. The ribbed roofing on the elevator is complete. The ribbed roof over the office is complete. The cardboard sub roof on both front and back of the main building is cut and ready for installation. Before that, I need to assemble, cut, prime and paint the ribbed roofing that is glued over the cardstock roof. The next project is the sub roof and ribbed roof over the drop door. There is a roof over the shipping door on the back side and a roof over the shipping area to build and cover with tar paper.


The main roof still will need all the fascia boards and rafter tails. The same for the shipping roof area.


Then the water tank, platform will be built. Finally i will build the stairs and decks. Lots of them.Stay tuned.


Frank / Erieman

really nice work Frank! very clean modeling. Your braver than me with putting the window awnings on already! If I did that I would be knocking them off trying to put the roof on!

Quote from: rpdylan on July 07, 2017, 05:13:48 AM
really nice work Frank! very clean modeling. Your braver than me with putting the window awnings on already! If I did that I would be knocking them off trying to put the roof on!

Good Morning Bob,


Thank you for the kind words. I never thought about the fragile aspect of the awnings. My biggest issue will be all the decking. That is very fragile, especially as you handle it. There is decking, stairs on all four sides, so you have a good chance of having a problem. I will probably build all of them first and then assemble them last. Stay tuned for more pics later today. It is going to be hot so I will be in the train room working on the model.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

I'm speechless! This build is absolutely wonderful and you are working at a neck breaking speed.


The wall weathering is perfect and the goose neck lamps really bring it to life.

Well done.

Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 07, 2017, 11:42:46 AM
Frank,

I'm speechless! This build is absolutely wonderful and you are working at a neck breaking speed.


The wall weathering is perfect and the goose neck lamps really bring it to life.

Well done.

Tom ;D

Good Afternoon Tom,


Thank you for your kind words. currently 114 outside, going up to 115, probably in the next hour or so. Yes, I am in the train room working on the room for the Yakima apples building. You are right about the LED lamps, sure wish I had them back when I started many of my buildings. I might be able to fix a few, but many are going to stay the way they are. Boo- Hoo. Glad you like the paint job. The building is progressing nicely and when both are done, will look absolutely great on your wonderful layout. More pics soon on the progress. Been working on the roof panels.


Frank / Erieman

What a gorgeous building, all the corners and pieces , love the weathering too.

Quote from: Janbouli on July 07, 2017, 06:18:31 PM
What a gorgeous building, all the corners and pieces , love the weathering too.

Good Evening Jan,


Thank you for stopping by. Glad you like the structure. With it being 114 degrees outside, I was able to make some progress on the building. The front and rear roof sub roof and top standing rib roofing are done. The front roof is only tacked in place until I finalize the front peak and side roof. Looks like tomorrow for completion. The it is on to the shipping roof awning and the rear door awning. Really getting close to starting all the decking. More weathering once the roof is in place. Then I can simulate the rust effect on the raised seam roofing. My guess is that there is another 2 weeks on this building before I start the body of the 2nd structure.


As I mentioned to Tom, I have been considering a third structure to go along with the giant orange grove that he has been building. I will sketch some ideas and then post them on the forum to get everyone's opinion. The third building would have some form of conveyor between buildings two and three. More details later. 


Frank / Erieman

Whew! The ribbed seam roof is done. Now I know why I  was not real keen on building another of these buildings. The roof is a real bitch. There is still a lot of rafter trim and fascia trim that needs to be added. I am now going to build the two other roofs that cover the deck behind the main building and the end of the shipping building.  These should go quickly. but I should never say that! I want to get all the roofs done and then move onto the decking. Lots of details to firm up, but progress is being made.


Frank / Erieman

Good Evening Everyone,


I have installed all the additional tar paper roofs on the structure. One is on the main building and the second on the shipping building component. Each roof is held up with metal rods and mounting plates on the wall and tar paper roofs. All the roofs are now installed. There is some adherence issues that I have to address. A couple of the corners are lifting even thought all the ribbed roofing is securred with double sided tape.


Next up is the fascia boards and rafter tails around the entire structure.


Enjoy the pics.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
What brand of color was used on the metal rib roof ? Did you spray it or brush it on ?
Tommy

Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on July 11, 2017, 03:07:20 AM
Frank,
What brand of color was used on the metal rib roof ? Did you spray it or brush it on ?
Tommy

Good Morning Tommy,


The color on the roof is the same as the structure. The styrene is first primed with Homeshades grey primer that I purchased at Walmart. Then I used Folk Art "Greenscape" straight out of the bottle. It is brushed on. I let it cure over night before handling. If you have sweaty hands, you can use white photographic gloves to prevent smearing. Still to be applied is the weathering. I use a rust pigment from Bar Mills. The color is Light rust and is applied with a Q tip. I'll show the weathering methods a little later on once the structure is completed.


Thanks for stopping by.


Frank / Erieman

Hi Frank,

Tom is waiting for the orange processing plant  to be finished before his oranges rot on the trees.
It is close to the time when they should be picked and he needs the money to expand his rr.

He is such a lucky man to have wonderful buildings for his layout.

Quote from: sdrees on July 11, 2017, 12:28:06 PM
Hi Frank,

Tom is waiting for the orange processing plant  to be finished before his oranges rot on the trees.
It is close to the time when they should be picked and he needs the money to expand his rr.

He is such a lucky man to have wonderful buildings for his layout.

Steve,


Tom is planting faster than I can build the buildings. Actually, I have considering making a third building, considering how big a grove he is planting. Just considering at the moment. I have made slight changes to these buildings, very slight changes indeed, for the better. I think he will enjoy them once they are done. Honey-do projects have been getting in the way as well as not having all the building materials. the main building is getting close to completion. Probably another week or two. Building two should go faster or so it says here. Maybe not.


Glad to build these for Tom. That's what friendship is all about.


Frank / Erieman

Fantastic. Can't wait to see it in place!


John

Hi Frank;

Very cool. l like what you've done with this especially the foundation.

Karl

Quote from: postalkarl on July 12, 2017, 09:35:04 AM
Hi Frank;

Very cool. l like what you've done with this especially the foundation.

Karl

Good Morning Karl from toasty Arizona. Thank you for your kind words on the building. I may not have said how and what I use for the foundation, so here goes. The plaster foundation is from New England Brownstone. After gluing the assembly together, I apply a A&I dark solution over the entire pieces of the wall. For color, I have a mix of steel wool and vinegar that I apply.This turns the plaster a very dark brown. In about a day or two, the plaster has gone quite dark brown. I use a 120 grit sanding block to get down to a lighter color. Then I drybrush the entire stone surfaces with Acrylic "White Wash" to highlight the stone.


Glad to like it. Unfortunately, a lot of the stone walls will be hidden by all the decking that will come next. Depending on the height of the layout, you can see the foundation under the decking. More pics later today, I Hope.


Frank / Erieman

A little progress today. One of the problems that I noticed was that the styrene roof was not sitting flat on the the cardstock sub roof. I tried double sided tape to no avail. I talked with Tom ( ACL 1504) and he suggested 5 minute epoxy. That seemed to do the trick with some minor issues. Not having used the epoxy before and the poor instructions, one of the applications actually set off as it was being applied. I was able to clear the application and mix another batch to a better success. I am now adding the rafter tails and fascia board trim around the structure.


I also started to stain the material for the decking. One small deck has been built. I thought that I had purchased some step rails, but cannot find them in all the mess. I might have to see if the local hobby shop has any tomorrow..


One of the chimney opening has been cut into the roof. The cast chimney has been filed and primed. Tomorrow the chimney will be painted.


I put a little chalk on the elevator roof to verify the color. Plenty more to do over the next couple of days.


Here are a couple of more pics.


Frank / Erieman 

That is a great looking build. Lots of character if you ask me.

Hi Frank:

Ditto on what Gerald said plus a big WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karl

Beautiful Frank.  I can't wait to see it on the Layout.

Jim

Quote from: Gerald Mabry on July 13, 2017, 01:42:13 AM
That is a great looking build. Lots of character if you ask me.

Gerald,


Thank you for stopping by and for enjoying the build. I think the real character is the guy I am building these structures for. Tom is an excellent builder, communicator and great friend to all of us.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: postalkarl on July 13, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Hi Frank:

Ditto on what Gerald said plus a big WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karl

Quote from: postalkarl on July 13, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Hi Frank:

Ditto on what Gerald said plus a big WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karl

Karl,


Thank for your kind words. Probably another day or two before I have something new to show. Currently working on the decking and there is plenty of that stuff.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: jimmillho on July 13, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
Beautiful Frank.  I can't wait to see it on the Layout.

Jim

Jim,


Thanks for stopping by. Building one is nearing completion and building two is just starting. I told Tom that I am considering adding a third building because of the grove that he has built. Still in the planning stages. I might just have to hand deliver it so I can see it first hand on the layout.


Frank / Erieman

all those roof lines came together so well Frank, super job! This is such a "beefy" looking structure, pretty impressive.  I wish I could get my modeling done faster but work and summer projects keep getting in the way!
     

Great looking build Frank! That is a really nice structure...I love the rooflines


John

Quote from: rpdylan on July 14, 2017, 04:59:54 AM
all those roof lines came together so well Frank, super job! This is such a "beefy" looking structure, pretty impressive.  I wish I could get my modeling done faster but work and summer projects keep getting in the way!
   

Good Morning Bob,


Thank you for the kind words. Somehow, this first build appears to be easier build than the second. Progress should be faster, but it is not. I must be getting older. It is a fun build and have always liked the shape and form. Thank for following along.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Cuse on July 14, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
Great looking build Frank! That is a really nice structure...I love the rooflines


John

Good Morning John,


Inquiring minds want to know, are you coming to the Narrow Gauge convention? I'll be there with my first build of Yakima Apples I and II. It would be great to see you there. I know you have a lot on your plate with a new house and all, but all work and no play, etc... Thanks for stopping by. Tom should get all these buildings by Christmas.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Erieman on July 13, 2017, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: jimmillho on July 13, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
Beautiful Frank.  I can't wait to see it on the Layout.

Jim

Jim,


Thanks for stopping by. Building one is nearing completion and building two is just starting. I told Tom that I am considering adding a third building because of the grove that he has built. Still in the planning stages. I might just have to hand deliver it so I can see it first hand on the layout.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
If you hand deliver them, let me know and I will meet you there. (we can all have some BBQ)

Jim

Quote from: jimmillho on July 14, 2017, 11:07:07 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 13, 2017, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: jimmillho on July 13, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
Beautiful Frank.  I can't wait to see it on the Layout.

Jim

Jim,


Thanks for stopping by. Building one is nearing completion and building two is just starting. I told Tom that I am considering adding a third building because of the grove that he has built. Still in the planning stages. I might just have to hand deliver it so I can see it first hand on the layout.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
If you hand deliver them, let me know and I will meet you there. (we can all have some BBQ)

Jim

Good Evening Jim,


Awaiting to hear from Cuse about possibly going to the Narrow Gauge Convention. I could give him Yakima Apples I back to Florida and give it to Tom.  I am probably going to wait until all the structures are complete, which will be later in the year. Thank you for stopping by.


Frank / Erieman

Good evening all,


Yes, it is still hot outside. Spent most of the day working on the building. All the rafter tails have been installed, painted, etc.. Now I am onto working on the decking. Lots of decking. Progress has been coming along with one deck almost done and a second deck well under way. The second deck also has supports for the cover roof. Lots of small pieces of lumber to fit together. Some of the decks also provide support to the roof overhang on two sides. Progress is going smoothly. Stay tuned to the progress. Here are a coupple of pics of todays progress.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
           Just sat down with my favorite libation while perusing your build pics.  Very tasty! yes both, my drink and your build.  Thanx Thom...

Tommy,


Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I have been busy with two, possibly three buildings for Tom aka ACL1504. The main building is close to completion. Spent a good portion of the day working on the decks that are around the building. Ran out of the decking lumber tonight and will have to get on the phone tomorrow to see if any hobby shop here in Phoenix has what I need. Otherwise, I am in for a slight delay of at least a week or more. The posts that support the rear overhang is done. I also dusted the roof with a rust chalk to simulate rust. There are still a few other steps, railings, etc. to complete tomorrow.  Here is a pic of the rear side of the building.


Frank / Erieman

Good Morning All,


Progress on building one is coming along nicely. I thought you might want to see my work space at the build continues. YUP, quite a mess. Next photo is the back of building one. All the decks are done and installed. The roof support on the main building overhang is done and installed ( see pic). All the steps from the decks to the ground are done and installed. All the railings around the steps are on the "to do" list. The roof overhang support on the front end of the shipping building is drying and will be installed in a bit. On the same deck end will be two ladders at either end.


The water tank and its support structure will be on the build list next week. This build is getting close to completion. WHEW. One almost done, one or two more to go.


Stay tuned.


Frank / Erieman

Hey Frank, I don't know whose workspace looks worse right now, yours or mine,  but out of the mess rises a great looking structure.

Quote from: sdrees on July 16, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
Hey Frank, I don't know whose workspace looks worse right now, yours or mine,  but out of the mess rises a great looking structure.

I'm curious how Frank got a picture of my workdesk up there?  ???

Quote from: sdrees on July 16, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
Hey Frank, I don't know whose workspace looks worse right now, yours or mine,  but out of the mess rises a great looking structure.

Good Afternoon Steve,


What a wonderful day to stay indoors and work on a building. I was outside very briefly this morning and the rest of the time was spent at the workbench. Progress has been very good today as you will see in the following two photos. All the railing work has been done on the right end of the building. Additionally, all the decking and ladders on the other end of the building is complete. All the railings are small, delicate parts. Slow to build and assemble. I have noticed that the small piece of roofing on the main building was not fastened real well, so I have removed it and will using 5 minute epoxy to bond the small piece of roofing better momentarily. I also have found that there is another small deck and step assembly that I have note yet built, so that is on the list. A little bit of railing along a step on the back of the main building also needs to be completed.


Only major element to finish is the water tank and that will happen over the next couple of days. Then it will be onto building #2. How time flies when you are having fun. I'll probably clean the work surface before I resume the build of #2 structure.


Frank / Erieman

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Frank


The build is looking great.  It's sunny and in the 70 's here today - perfect.  I have never seen this much rain in the summer in Michigan. I hope you don't use up all the AZ heat this summer - save some for us to enjoy this winter.  Stay cool my friend.

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Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: S&S RR on July 16, 2017, 06:02:13 PM
Frank


The build is looking great.  It's sunny and in the 70 's here today - perfect.  I have never seen this much rain in the summer in Michigan. I hope you don't use up all the AZ heat this summer - save some for us to enjoy this winter.  Stay cool my friend.

Good Evening John,


I'm staying cool working in the train room. We will be in the 70's soon as well - Like maybe November or December. Only kidding. Our summer is like your winter. We stay inside now, but come winter, it is outside time. Oh well, its always time to be in the train room. Thanks for your kind words. Talk to you soon.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Well if he doesn't like it ( stupid assumption ) put it in a sturdy box and send it over the big puddle called Atlantic, the perfect 10 barely tells how much I like this building.

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Are you kidding me? I love them and will definitely use them. In fact, the A&S RR has already purchased property for the structures.

Tom ;D

Hi Frank:

Very very nice progress. I've been following along with great interest.

Karl S.

Quote from: Janbouli on July 17, 2017, 03:18:44 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Well if he doesn't like it ( stupid assumption ) put it in a sturdy box and send it over the big puddle called Atlantic, the perfect 10 barely tells how much I like this building.

Sorry Jan,


These buildings have Tom's name written all over them. Besides, they are HO scale and would HUGE on your n scale layout.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 06:50:54 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Are you kidding me? I love them and will definitely use them. In fact, the A&S RR has already purchased property for the structures.

Tom ;D

NO WORRIES TOM,


These will be headed to Orlando upon completion. I am thinking of taking the two original buildings to the Narrow Gauge Convention and putting them in the contest room.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: postalkarl on July 17, 2017, 11:43:44 AM
Hi Frank:

Very very nice progress. I've been following along with great interest.

Karl S.

Karl,


Thank you for stopping by and enjoying the build. Should be done with this building this week and then I can start on building #2. Still trying to decide about a third building. Based on that large orange grove that Tom planted, he might need a third structure to handle processing and shipping all those oranges.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Erieman on July 17, 2017, 12:33:29 PM

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 06:50:54 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Are you kidding me? I love them and will definitely use them. In fact, the A&S RR has already purchased property for the structures.

Tom ;D

NO WORRIES TOM,


These will be headed to Orlando upon completion. I am thinking of taking the two original buildings to the Narrow Gauge Convention and putting them in the contest room.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Do it, you'll probably win - AGAIN!

Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 05:25:10 PM

Quote from: Erieman on July 17, 2017, 12:33:29 PM

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 17, 2017, 06:50:54 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM





Jan,


Thank you for the wonderful score. Glad you like it. Building one is almost done, then on to the building two of this complex. Still deciding if there will be a building three. The most important thing is that Tom, aka ACL 1504, like these buildings on his layout.


Frank / Erieman

Are you kidding me? I love them and will definitely use them. In fact, the A&S RR has already purchased property for the structures.

Tom ;D

NO WORRIES TOM,


These will be headed to Orlando upon completion. I am thinking of taking the two original buildings to the Narrow Gauge Convention and putting them in the contest room.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Do it, you'll probably win - AGAIN!

Tom ;D

Tom,
I like your thinking !!!  In the meantime, the final sets of stairs and railings on the building are now complete. Check the following three photos. So-o-o, the only remaining item to complete on this building is the water tank and associated support structure. Oh yes, there is something else that needs to be re glued. The roof over the office needs to be glued with 5 minute epoxy. then i need to add the rafter tails. That should do it.
Well maybe not. I recall I still have to build the double sided sign. Need to talk to Tom about possibly lighting of the sign. Amazing how many things continue to crop up. Stay tuned for more soon. Sorry for the fuzzy photos.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

So has Tom come up with a name for the facility?

Maybe he might call it the "Langford Lingerie and Long John Company" - Purveyors of Fine Unmentioables.  ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: sdrees on July 17, 2017, 11:04:18 PM
Frank,

So has Tom come up with a name for the facility?

Good Morning Steve,


Tom has chosen "Cracker Boy Citrus " Sounds good to me.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: GPdemayo on July 18, 2017, 09:18:38 AM
Maybe he might call it the "Langford Lingerie and Long John Company" - Purveyors of Fine Unmentioables.  ;D ;D ;D

Greg,


I don't think so. This is a family show! "Cracker Boy Citrus" is the final choice from Tom. Signage and carton graphics are underway.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Erieman on July 18, 2017, 10:53:39 AM

Quote from: GPdemayo on July 18, 2017, 09:18:38 AM
Maybe he might call it the "Langford Lingerie and Long John Company" - Purveyors of Fine Unmentioables.  ;D ;D ;D

Greg,


I don't think so. This is a family show! "Cracker Boy Citrus" is the final choice from Tom. Signage and carton graphics are underway.


Frank / Erieman

Hi Frank.....A family show better have undies, it would be unseemly to be going commando with the kiddies in the house.  ;D ;D ;D

Wow.  I blinked and I missed it.  It looks wonderful Frank.  I'm not sure about the "Cracker Boy" though.  Me being from the Coal Cracker regions of PA.   ;)   It just doesn't seem right to associate Cracker with Oranges.   ???

Quote from: ReadingBob on July 18, 2017, 06:33:20 PM
Wow.  I blinked and I missed it.  It looks wonderful Frank.  I'm not sure about the "Cracker Boy" though.  Me being from the Coal Cracker regions of PA.   ;)   It just doesn't seem right to associate Cracker with Oranges.   ???

Good Morning Bob.
    Thank you for stopping by and your kind words. Building one is 99% done. I just have to add the birds, so stop by this afternoon and I should have some final pics up. I did some framing details on the new building that I really like, so I am going to go back to the original building and change what is currently on the first building. Am I crazy or what!?
    As far as the name "cracker", you will have to discuss that with the new owner. I am only the builder. One building done and one or two to go. Going to take a short break. I need to give my shoulder a break. I stressed it working up to the photo shoot and did not give it a break. Time to give it a break.


Frank / Erieman

Reading Bob and those that follow,


As promised, here are three photos of building one completed, birds and all. As i mentioned, I am going to take a brief break to rest my left shoulder before I start the next structure of this complex. Enjoy the pics.


Frank / Erieman

Beautiful work, Frank.  I do love the pigeons!


Jeff

Way to go Frank.....Great job.  8)

The vertical sliding door looks a little strange to me.  How would this be opened?  Maybe there'd be some sort of counterbalance weight so it would be easy for someone to lift and would stay open?


dave

Quote from: deemery on July 19, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
The vertical sliding door looks a little strange to me.  How would this be opened?  Maybe there'd be some sort of counterbalance weight so it would be easy for someone to lift and would stay open?


dave

Dave,
you guessed right. The only problem with the door is I forgot to install the counterweight. My bad. Its on the list update list to fix. Good catch. It's on the original model, but somehow was overlooked on this one. I'll correct it. Thanks for your comment. My bad.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: GPdemayo on July 19, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
Way to go Frank.....Great job.  8)

Thanks Greg,


Need to get my shoulder fixed before I start the next building. Its hell to grow old. I guess I spent too much time with the scenery using my left arm. Glad you like the build.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 19, 2017, 01:11:02 PM
Beautiful work, Frank.  I do love the pigeons!


Jeff

Jeff,


Thank you for your kind words and for your pigeons. They really add something to the building. I need to add a little pigment near the birds to illustrate " what the pigeons add to the building"! Thanks again for the birds.


Frank / Erieman

What a beauty, wish there was one in N-scale.

Outstanding work Frank....as usual.

looks awesome Frank, super nice job! Are you going to fill the loading docs with "stuff" a la George Sellios? With all that dock space, I think about $200.00 worth of castings should just about do it!

Quote from: rpdylan on July 20, 2017, 04:22:11 AM
looks awesome Frank, super nice job! Are you going to fill the loading docs with "stuff" a la George Sellios? With all that dock space, I think about $200.00 worth of castings should just about do it!

Bob,

I'll be the one adding 99% of the casting to the two structures. 8) 8) 8)


Tom ;D

Quote from: Erieman on July 19, 2017, 04:09:11 PM

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 19, 2017, 01:11:02 PM
Beautiful work, Frank.  I do love the pigeons!


Jeff

Jeff,


Thank you for your kind words and for your pigeons. They really add something to the building. I need to add a little pigment near the birds to illustrate " what the pigeons add to the building"! Thanks again for the birds.


Frank / Erieman

It wouldn't be a Erieman build without the bird s**t.

Frank,
           Great looking structure my friend! Enjoyed watching you put your fingerprints all over ACL's paybacks.  Equally will be watching where, how & why the rent a cop installs on his layout. :)  Thanks for sharing!  Thanx Thom... P.S.  How will you send to Tom?(fly, mail, drive, ups, drone)???

Hi Frank:

WOW!!!!!! very nicely done. I also like the pigeons. They always add a great detail.

karl

Quote from: Janbouli on July 19, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
What a beauty, wish there was one in N-scale.

Jan,


I'd send you drawings of the two buildings, but, and this is a big but, there is not enough detail for you to build anything from. Sorry about that. I use the existing model as a reference. Sorry about that. Glad you enjoy the build. Maybe some day I'll make a drawing, or not.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: Donato on July 19, 2017, 10:39:55 PM
Outstanding work Frank....as usual.

Donato,


Thanks for stopping by and glad you enjoyed the build. Building two will start in a week or so.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: rpdylan on July 20, 2017, 04:22:11 AM
looks awesome Frank, super nice job! Are you going to fill the loading docs with "stuff" a la George Sellios? With all that dock space, I think about $200.00 worth of castings should just about do it!

Bob,


As Tom says, he is going to fill the building(s) with castings. I think he is a little light on the cost of them. When i started my first build, I think I had almost $200 in crates and that was quite a while ago. These building can really suck up details. I look forward to seeing what Tome does with them once he gets them.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: ACL1504 on July 20, 2017, 07:39:07 AM

Quote from: rpdylan on July 20, 2017, 04:22:11 AM
looks awesome Frank, super nice job! Are you going to fill the loading docs with "stuff" a la George Sellios? With all that dock space, I think about $200.00 worth of castings should just about do it!

Bob,

I'll be the one adding 99% of the casting to the two structures. 8) 8) 8)


Tom ;D

Yup, What Tom says!


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: S&S RR on July 20, 2017, 08:50:21 AM

Quote from: Erieman on July 19, 2017, 04:09:11 PM

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 19, 2017, 01:11:02 PM
Beautiful work, Frank.  I do love the pigeons!


Jeff

Jeff,


Thank you for your kind words and for your pigeons. They really add something to the building. I need to add a little pigment near the birds to illustrate " what the pigeons add to the building"! Thanks again for the birds.


Frank / Erieman

It wouldn't be a Erieman build without the bird s**t.

John,


You have been here so you know how many building s have birds and accompanying B.S. on them.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: tct855 on July 20, 2017, 10:19:15 AM
Frank,
           Great looking structure my friend! Enjoyed watching you put your fingerprints all over ACL's paybacks.  Equally will be watching where, how & why the rent a cop installs on his layout. :)  Thanks for sharing!  Thanx Thom... P.S.  How will you send to Tom?(fly, mail, drive, ups, drone) ???

Thom,



Tough call on how they are going to get to Florida. Needs serious consideration. Certainly not the USPS.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: postalkarl on July 20, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
Hi Frank:

WOW!!!!!! very nicely done. I also like the pigeons. They always add a great detail.

karl

Karl,


Thank you for your kind words. Glad you like the build. Building two coming soon. Also considering on taking these structures to the 37th Narrow Gauge Convention. HMMM.


Frank . Erieman

Hi Frank:

I would Surely take them to the convention.

Karl

Quote from: postalkarl on July 21, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
Hi Frank:

I would Surely take them to the convention.

Karl

Karl


Planning on it. The next issue is whether to show the buildings separately as structures or make a diorama using both buildings. Any thoughts?


Frank / Erieman

Good Morning ACL1504 and all others,


Well, now that the original Yakima Apples has been arranged into a module and ready for the Narrow Gauge Convention in a couple of weeks, it is time to start building #2. I constructed the base at the same time I did the first building. It has been sitting forlornly on the workbench for the past couple of months. Well, yesterday, I started construction on the the building and ordered some doors and windows. You never have enough doors and windows in your supply. Well, I do have enough  windows, but... It turns out that the 2 over 2 windows that i have in my window boxes, have been modified. The top of the good windows has a ledger board that extends beyond the side of the windows. Apparently, I built another structure where I removed the extension  and several of those windows are still in the  wrong box.


I have been cutting out the walls, adding window and door openings and bracing the walls. I am about half way and should have all the walls done later today. I'll post pic of the walls later today. Once all the walls are braced, I can start the painting process.  More later in the day.


Frank / Erieman   

Okay, Building two is in the first application of paint, well almost. There are a few more walls that need to be cut, braced, etc before saying that all walls are done. It has been some time since i built the first of this building and its like starting all over again. I have also had to order some more doors and windows, but they should be here soon. I cut a hole in the back to deal with the wiring. I found that i had cut a hole in the first large building, but not the second, so when I return from the NNGC, and remove the buildings from the diorama base, I will wire the first of these structures.


Building one for Tom is complete and mounted on a piece of foam awaiting the second building. Both will then be sent to him for installation on his wonderful new layout. Maybe by his birthday! Anyway, I'm not going to hurry on this build, so don't push me. Once all the panels have the first coat of paint, then I will add nail holes and other elements of weathering.  This building is assembled differently that the first as you will see in future photos.


Enough for tonight. Have to in an keep my bride happy and let her know that I am still alive.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Not much to say but WOWSER!

I'm not pushing but they sure do look wonderful and I have real estate available.

As onewolf said, "Happy wife=happy life". Gotta make Momma happy.

Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on August 22, 2017, 11:14:38 AM
Frank,

Not much to say but WOWSER!

I'm not pushing but they sure do look wonderful and I have real estate available.

As onewolf said, "Happy wife=happy life". Gotta make Momma happy.

Tom ;D

Good Morning Tom,


I thought I would give you a status report on building two. Have had quite a few "Honey-do's" to finish, but I have been spending some time in the train room working on building two. As you will see in the attached photo. the base is done, the main structure is done and being painted with 3 coats of pigment, so far. The center roof walls are done and assembled and two coats of pigment have been applied. All the windows and doors have been painted and glazed and will be installed the remaining exterior walls are finally painted. So-o-o, progress is being made, my friend. Enjoy the pics, more soon. reemember to click on the pic and it gets nice and big so you can see all the details.


Frank / Erieman 

Frank,

Absolutely fantastic my friend.

Tom ;D

Excellent modeling.

Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 25, 2017, 07:35:13 PM
Excellent modeling.

Thanks Curt,


Well it has been a couple of weeks since my last post of building two of Yakima Apples. My wife and I drove Denver for the 37th National Narrow Gauge Convention. We are now back, the yard has been cleaned up and most of the honey do projects are complete, as if they ever are. Back at the building two. Finishing up the seemless roof. Still have a few seems to add, then prime and paint it.  Tom supplies two gooseneck exterior lights with LED's. The are installed and tested. The building is off the base to make it easier to assemble. The chimney is a combination of a Durango Press Victorian chimney and the brick column from Monster model works brick corners. When combined, the chimney looks great.


So that is the progress as of today. Here is a current pic. Hopefully more tomorrow. There is a deadline and it fast approaching.


Frank / Erieman

Erieman,
       Whoa! I like how the siding is turning out!  That looks awesome with that type of roof.  I'd say great job, but.... AWESOME is much more to the point my friend.  Thanx Thom...

Hi Frank,

the siding and the roof look very nice, but the chimney looks top heavy and is going to fall over.

Quote from: tct855 on September 16, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Erieman,
       Whoa! I like how the siding is turning out!  That looks awesome with that type of roof.  I'd say great job, but.... AWESOME is much more to the point my friend.  Thanx Thom...

Thom,


Thank you for your kind words. The roof is a real challenge, but worth it when it is done. I won't tell you how many pieces of the roof I had to cut to make the final roof - just saying. Actually, the first time I built this roof was difficult, but this time everything has gone quite smoothly, so far!!!


Glad you enjoy the pic.


Frank / Erieman

Quote from: sdrees on September 16, 2017, 10:39:08 PM
Hi Frank,

the siding and the roof look very nice, but the chimney looks top heavy and is going to fall over.

Good Morning Steve;


Glad you like the roof. Not so glad you don't like the chimney. Actually, the chimney is very reminiscent of chimneys from the 1800's and later. The taller chimneys provided great draft. I'll look and see if I can find some examples of what I have built.. Enjoy your weekend.


Frank / Erieman   

Good Morning All,


Just when you think you are making real good progress, you find an error. Not just a minor error, but a somewhat major error. The upper section of this building is too small. The height of the upper section is off by 3/4" . That is major and will require removal of the existing walls, etc.. I was sitting here talking to John Siekirk on the phone when I noticed that I had not installed windows in the upper portion of the building. After my conversation with John, I got up close to the model and noticed the wrong size issue.


Expletives aside, I will be taking the upper wall section off, cutting a new one and hopefully the metal roof that i just completed will still fit. I can't tell you how much of a pain the metal roof is. Anyway, back to the model. I'll post some pics of the problem, removal and reconstruction. Expletives deleted.


Frank / Erieman

Okay, a couple hours later, a visit to the gym and lunch and the extra body wall elements removed, it is now time to cut the correct second stories of the upper floor. Repeatable.  Removable of the second story wall has been cut longer. Now we wait for glue to dry on the bracing, paint the walls multiple coats and reinstall. RIGHT!!!


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

Sorry you have to re-cut the upper portion of the building.

I've had my share of having to redo a few structure walls.

However, it sure looks good my friend.

Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on September 18, 2017, 05:29:01 PM
Frank,

Sorry you have to re-cut the upper portion of the building.

I've had my share of having to redo a few structure walls.

However, it sure looks good my friend.

Tom ;D

You are not going to believe this, but I think the " lack of interest" syndrome that we are both suffering from continues to plague me. I have recut the second story components three times before getting it right. This is getting a bit silly. The parts are now painted and ready for assembly. The windows need priming and painting. The metal roof has been test fit several times and "appears" to be trouble free. Let's hope. I should be able to reassemble the upper walls later today, then proceed with completing the rest of the roof details " in situ". I received all of the lighting components and need to get several of them built for my models. They really much better with lighting. Have a great day, my friend.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,
          No worries on the cutting, cutting & recutting!  That's why they make #11's so sharp.  Here's modeling 101 (truth about some of us modelers)  reflection pics:

We are all different. Probably a good thing.
ed

I get that disease when I have electrical work and switch machines to install.  That is what I am trying to do now.  I am making progress, but their is a lot of procrastinating with it.

Quote from: sdrees on September 20, 2017, 02:12:23 PM
I get that disease when I have electrical work and switch machines to install.  That is what I am trying to do now.  I am making progress, but their is a lot of procrastinating with it.

Steve,


Glad to hear that "the disease is not only Tom and I. I like switch machine install, but not the electrical. Keep up the good work.


Frank / Erieman

Yesterday I made a lot of progress remaking / replacing the upper segment of the structure. The walls were cut several time  / my bad / and finally done correctly. The window openings were added. The windows were primed and painted, glazing and shades added. All the walls were painted ( multiple time over a three day period), tested for fit together and to the mating base components. The three walls were glues together, braced and inserted into the lower section. The metal roof was added, glued and then painted. Voila, it is back together and looking good. Now it is on to the side wings and the underside of the slanted roof. The underside will have rafter tails extending out of the underside. This is a lot of work, but really looks good when done. The nit will be onto the water tanks, but that is another time.


Frank / Erieman

Frank


Looking good!

Quote from: S&S RR on September 21, 2017, 02:28:29 PM
Frank


Looking good!

Thanks John,


Well, over the past few days, progress has been made. The photo below shows a comparison of the existing building and the new structure. I have been adding lots of rafter tails and building trim. I am about 1/2 way complete with all the rafter tails. The chimney has been installed ( and hopefully stays put during the final stages of the build). I have one roof vent left for the building and as of yet have not been successful in finding the manufacturer of the part. The next major part of the build will be the water tanks. Need to find something to use as the rigid interior for the tanks. Thinking of using PVC tubing if I can find the right size. The water tank on the top of the building will follow. So-o-o, the building is nearing completion. WHEW. I think the first build was much quicker, but don't know why I think that. Enjoy.


Frank / Erieman

Looking good Frank, can't wait to see it finished.

Jim

Very nice modeling.

Jim and Curt,


Thank for your kind words. Progress is being made. I have been working on the large water tanks. I am using 1/32 thick with 1/16 spacing lumber. Ran out of lumber for the second tank. DRAT. Monday will be a call to the LHS to see if they have any, otherwise another delay in store for this project.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

I'm speechless! What a superb model you've built. I'm giddy just seeing what a fantastic job you've done and knowing I'll be the new owner is wonderful.

Really, superior modeling my friend.

Tom ;D

So I get a call from Mr. Erieman - John do you have the FSM Rock Bunker Kit? Can you check if these castings are part of the kit. Picture shows up on my cell phone.  I need the castings for my special project.




So I check the yellow box inside the wonderful yellow box and sure enough here are the castings that Frank needs.


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So I tell Frank I'll make a couple with the molds I'm making for my scratch build job.  I don't know if the mold will fill - haven't had much luck making real small resin castings. And I make a couple and the look like I expected. 


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So I didn't want to let Frank down,  because he's making a special build for a special friend so I decide to make a spin casting machine to try and fill the molds.

So my high tech low cost spin casting machine is a success.


Here are a few of the castings that I was able to produce this afternoon.


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As I protected the process I was even able to fill the mold enough to cast the shaft on the gear box.

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And here is the spin casting machine. A needle in the right place to get the air out and I was able to get enough centrifugal force to fill the mold. It was a fun little mini project.




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Frank the casting will be on their way this week.

after a bad start with the water towers in the building, I used spray cement to attach the wood siding to the plastic inner. I installed the wooden siding wet onto the plastic inner. As the wood dried, it shrunk. That was problem one. The second problem was installing the second wooden piece onto the plastic form at the same time. About an hour later. both pieces were dry, but they has shrunk apart from both ends, hence about 1/16 gap at both ends. BAD.


I ran out of wooden siding, so it was another trip to the LHS today to pick a package of 1/32 thick with 1/16 spacing. I has to recut the plastic inners, then formed four pieces of wood. Now I let them dry for several hours, then applied double sided tape to the plastic pipe inner. They now fit nice and tight and look beautiful. Strapping comes next then weathering, then the water barrels will be done.


With John Siekirk's help, the next area will be the platforms around the building. As you may have noticed, John cast me a motor and drive mechanism for the conveyor. I love progress. I'll post a pic tomorrow.


Frank / Erieman

Good Morning All,


Now that much of the pruning has been done outside, it is time to get back the the subject at hand. Both water tanks have their new wooden skin on them. Now I need to apply the metal bands to the barrels and add some leak effects to them. A little glue to the base and I'll be done with the barrels. Then I can build the wooden supports at the rear of the slanted roof.


Next up will be the awning over the sorting / delivery platforms.


Frank / Erieman

Beautiful work Frank.

I will second Donato with beautiful job.

Curt and Donato,


Thank you fore your kind words. Progress is really underway this past week. I have finished the awning over the platform. The water tanks are also completed. Notice the banding around the tanks. The low portion of the tank has bands closer together and less close towards the top of the tank. The legs and associated bracing for the platform are still be completed. The final major element will be the water tank on the top of the structure. Here is a pic of the current status.


Frank / Erieman

Hey Frank:

very nicely done. You have more patience than I do.

karl

Quote from: postalkarl on September 28, 2017, 07:30:21 AM
Hey Frank:

very nicely done. You have more patience than I do.

karl

Karl,


Thanks for your kind words. I don't know about patience. Someday's I wonder what I am doing in the hobby. Only kidding. I really enjoy building scratch structures. I already have a couple more scratchbuilds in the cue. My wife thinks I'm crazy. NOT.


Well I spent the afternoon finishing the railings on the base of the structure. All the railings are done and it was time to mount the structure to the base. I also finished the light that will be mounted on the edge of the building overlooking the platform. I made the light fixture a bit too long, so the light will have to be one of the last item installed. As part of the shipping component, there will be a 1" block of foam under the building and the post will fit in a hole in the foam. That's one way to handle my mistake! Now to start the water tank and support on the roof.


Here is a pic of the two building elements clamped together.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

I'm very amazed at the quality of these structures. They are absolutely wonderful and will look natural in The Town of Tahope.

Really fantastic and superior craftsmanship Frank.

Tom ;D

Frankie,
            U-DA-MAAN!
                              Nice
                                     build
                                             my
                                                  friend.
                                                           Very
                                                                 very
                                                                       yes
                                                                 very
                                                         Kewl!
                                                     8)
                                           Thanx
                                Thom...     

Quote from: ACL1504 on September 28, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Frank,

I'm very amazed at the quality of these structures. They are absolutely wonderful and will look natural in The Town of Tahope.

Really fantastic and superior craftsmanship Frank.

Tom ;D

Thanks Tom,


Thank you for the kind words. I am looking forward to seeing these structures on your layout in the town of Tahope as well. Soon my friend, soon.


Frak / Erieman

Well, all the outside chores are done for the day and now in the train room. Here is a pic of the Company billboard that will be mounted along the front road between the buildings. Yes, the lighting works. Now working on the water tank for the building. The water tank, a ladder and fill pipe will be added. Enjoy the pic.

Frank / Erieman                                                                                                                     

 I have recently added pigeons and pigeon poop to the sign. I have also found a billboard sign that I have attached to one end of the building. Cute sign. More later.


Frank / Erieman

Frank,

WOW, WOW and OH MY, WOW!

Tom ;D

Great work Frank! and great photo!

TOM and BOB,


Thank you for stopping by. Glad you enjoyed the photos. As PORKY PIG says "That's All Folks"!!!!!!!!! The buildings and sign post are all done!!!! YEAH!!!! Here a few pics for Tom to drool by until I get these into a box and send them. Enjoy my friend.


Frank / Erieman

Awesome Frank.

Very nice work my friend!

Maybe in the future some photos can be posted here when the structures are "planted"? that would be great!

Beautiful structures, Frank. 


Jeff

Great work Frank.....can't wait to see them. 8)

Quote from: GPdemayo on October 02, 2017, 08:56:05 AM
Great work Frank.....can't wait to see them. 8)

Likewise.

Jim

Frank,
         Beautiful man, just fantastic builds.  Thanx Thom...

Thanks Guys, glad you enjoyed the build. Well, I thought I was done, but of no. It seems that I forgot the conveyor on the last building. Actually, there is a motor and drive mechanism ( compliments of John Siekirk ) and then I need to build a conveyor and dump tray. Not a big deal, just not really done yet. Pics later once it really done.


Frank / Erieman

Okay, a few hours of design and build and the conveyor, motor, drive mechanism and dump tray are done. A slight cut had to be made into the deck area for the conveyor belt. This will be shipped separately as to prevent any shipping damage. I want the primer to dry and then I will do some weathering before boxing everything up.
Enjoy the photos.


Frank / Erieman

Tom is such a lucky guy to have someone build him a fantastic model.

It really looks great Frank. I can't wait to see the pictures of it installed on Tom's layout.

Fantastic Build! Can't wait to see it!


John

Great build.  It will look awesome on Tom's layout.

Quote from: sdrees on October 03, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
Tom is such a lucky guy to have someone build him a fantastic model.

Steve,

Yes, I am one lucky guy. However, it was a trade as Frank got two beautiful brass loco paint jobs from this lucky guy.

Frank and I are both very lucky guys.

Little did Frank know when he and his granddaughter came by 4 years ago it would lead to this. Nor did moi!

Tom ;D

Quote from: S&S RR on October 03, 2017, 11:09:39 PM
It really looks great Frank. I can't wait to see the pictures of it installed on Tom's layout.

John,

Nor can I my friend, nor can I.

Tom ;D

Quote from: PRR Modeler on October 04, 2017, 09:45:23 AM
Great build.  It will look awesome on Tom's layout.

Curt,

Yes, the two structures will greatly improve my little empire.

Tom ;D

Frank,

I have no other adjectives to describe the two fantastic structures. Now, please excuse me. I need to go wipe the slobber off my chin! :P :P


Tom ;D

Quote from: ACL1504 on October 04, 2017, 12:19:13 PM
Frank,

I have no other adjectives to describe the two fantastic structures. Now, please excuse me. I need to go wipe the slobber off my chin! :P :P


Tom ;D

Well, my friend, you are going to keep drooling for a few more days. FEDEX will be bringing your present soon. real soon. In the meantime, you can check my packaging of the models.


Frank / Erieman

I mentioned on my A&S RR thread that the Cracker Boy citrus processing structures arrived. I needed to make a few small repairs from the FEDEX ride.

I know Frank showed many pictures of the two buildings during construction and I wanted to add a few of my own.

He did an absolutely wonderful job on the two buildings.

You can see some of the details up close here.

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Beautiful modeling.

WOW!