Howdy All,
Back here in my favorite Forum. Jumped over to Kit building for one, but back Home again. So I thought I would have some fun with all of you fellow Modelers. I had a few extra hours yesterday, and some left over clapboard, and decided to do a scratch build copy of a kit. I have this kit in my collection, and was able to measure the pieces.
So lets see how long it will take one of you to identify the Mystery building. Some hints are that it was released in the 80's, and Frankly it was a kit that I had purchased when I was 12 yrs old, but sadly traded to another kid for some baseball cards. All these years later I have another one....
Let the Guessing begin.........
Loren...
FSM Crocker Brothers Feed Mill. I was just looking thru my stash of kits last week. ;D
Jeff
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on July 03, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
FSM Crocker Brothers Feed Mill. I was just looking thru my stash of kits last week. ;D
Jeff
Dr. Jones got me by a few minutes. I agree, it's Crocker Bros.
Tom ;D
WOW!!!!! Tough to fool you all.....Jeff takes the cake......Tom was off by just a couple of minutes....thought it might be more of a challenge, but you guys know your kits.....
Loren...
really cool Loren! I'll be following along, my fellow scratch-builder!
Bob C,
Glad to have you aboard, might take me a little while, as I have to get some small windows, which I forgot I used on the last build....but the structure itself I will be able to put together.
Loren...
Hi Loren:
Look like a fun build. I'll be following along.
Karl
Loren.....could that possibly be Crocker Brothers Feed Mill kit by FSM? ;D ;D ;)
Neat kit.....I'll be watching. :)
Karl,
Glad to have you following...
Loren...
Greg,
Hah! I changed the name after Jeff guessed it. Would not have been to hard if I had named the Thread Crocker Bro.......
Thanks for following along...
Loren...
I'm a little late to the guessing party but I will be following along on your build.
I "guess" I'll be following along.
John, Denato,
Glad to have you checking in....
Loren...
Hello All,
So, Due to the holiday I was not able to get bracing wood, as the hobby shop was closed. I decided to make some doors instead. The doors all use the Folkart driftwood stain, that I mentioned in the FOS carter supply build. You paint it on, and wipe it off. The freight doors came out okay, the four panel is nice. The extreme close ups do not do them justice due to the fuzz. I did not want to rub them down, and take finish off. You cannot see the fuzz by the eye anyways. The last photo is of what I am going with for the walls. This is a Craftsmart gel stain, called barnwood gray. just as the other you brush on, let sit for 30 sec, and wipe off. this has two coats applied, with a very light ink wash in between. Thanks for stopping by....
Loren...
Hey All,
Nothing too exciting today, worked on getting the siding grained last night. Thought I would be smart, and start with a new wire wheel, what a mistake. took off a lot of wood, so had to revert back to the one that I had previously used for hand graining. Also, have been working on scratching a cyclone.....thanks for taking a look..
Loren...
Awesome work Loren, I'm a fan! Did you cast those doors yourself? I made some rubber molds of doors but haven't cast any yet. How did you make the cyclones) I need to do some for my Fox Run project
Bob C,
The doors are all made from scale wood, freight doors are 2x4 on 1/32 birch base, with 1x6,1x10, and 1x3 trim. The four panel door is about the same. The cyclone I started with dowel about the same width, and sanded down. the top of cyclone is two wood discs glued together, with a sanded dowel top. the base was just 1/16 basswood, with tin foil added over it. will look better when painted, and rusted.
Thanks for the compliment....
Loren...
Thanks Loren,
I'm gonna try your methods.... I really like the way the doors came out!
Bob,
Give her a go, I did those in a couple hours. I based all the dimensions on Georges casting. The easy part was using the birch veneer for the base, just glued the 2x4 to that, and then the trim on top. I grained the wood with that euro tool from micro-mark. The handles are .008 bronze wire, and the latch was just a 1x2 or 1x3 split in half. I felt you could just not get that aged look from a casting. Possibly from the Rusty Stumps door you use. Almost forgot one thing, the rusty nail holes I did by diluting some Tim Holtz distress ink (Latte) with water, and dipping the pin in it, than poking the wood.
Loren...
Loren,
Will follow along too. Don't feel bad about the baseball cards...my mom tossed all mine out when the Army called 50 years ago....the castings look great ! 8)
Tommy
Tom,
Thanks for following along...
Loren...
Hey All,
I got some of the walls finished. Sorry for some of them being Cropped. They came out pretty good. I used the Craftsmart Barnwood Grey stain on them, after a light ink stain first. I than dry brushed with regular Driftwood to enhance the dry rot effect. The nail hole I did with a pin, in a pin vise. I added a little Carmel stain down the nail holes for rust. Thanks for taking a look.
Loren...
I'm usually not a fan of nail holes, but yours look great!
dave
Dave,
Thanks for the comment. I did them at 24", but I now wish I might have spread them to 36". Oh! Well! I will live with it.
Loren...
Beautiful work, Loren. The wood grain looks great!
Cheers, Mark.
36" would have probably been too far apart. A lot of structures, particularly barns, were built with 24" center studs (normal house practice is 18")
dave
Mark,
Thanks, tried to get an old well weathered look to it.
Loren...
I have been varying nail hole spacing on my structures for variety. I have even done 2 foot spacing on one section- like a shed addition, and then 3 or 4 feet apart on the main building. I am a fan of "hyper-realism"- like the way you see things on the FSM. I don't see the wood grain or nail holes on a building when I stand across the street- so I am guessing that in HO scale, the wood grain and nail holes would be out of scale if I can see it-- HOWEVER,,, I just love the wood grain and nail holes on structure models!
Loren, I think your walls look amazing- after looking at your work, I am going to go over my nail holes in some places with a hint of rust powder
Bob C,
Thanks for the info. I would not use powder on them, but I would mix the powder with some alcohol, and make a very diluted stain. I use a 20/0 brush and very lightly skip down the row of nail holes, heavier in some places, maybe none in others. The stain will bleed out ever so little....Good luck with it...
Loren...
Bob........
Below is another option for nail holes to consider. Rather than get caught up in the debate whether they might be visible or not............
Consider...
the rust stain affects of nails. There are nail holes on this model of a Labelle freight house. Kit is long out of production. The rust stains however are visible and widen as they go down the wall as there are more and more contributing nails to create the running rust.
This effect works well on structures with no paint or ones that model long ago failed paint.
see ya
Bob
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Thanks for the tip Loren!
Bob P. : yes, I agree- its all about the "weathering"! Replicating the rust def. adds to the realism of models
Loren
The walls look great.
John,
Thanks...tried a new technique, and it worked out pretty well...There was a build some years back on Railroad Line forum, of the Crocker Bro, but that was many, many steps involved. mine is 4 easy steps, to get a similar look.
Loren...
Hey All,
Just some more shots of the walls as the progress continues...Thanks for taking a look..
Loren...
Love that last photo....you can almost see those termites!
Donato,
Thanks....come to think of it, I was getting a rash while working on it.....
Loren..
What a dump!
Fantastic work as always Loren. ;D
John
John,
Well!! that is a Subtle comment.........Thanks....almost done with the packing....
Loren...
Hi Loren:
This is coming along quite nicely. I'm enjoying your build as always./
Karl S.
Karl,
Thanks so much, your FOS quick build came out nice as well..
Loren..
Loren, that building looks 100 years old and never saw a lick of paint or whitewash - my style of building/weathering. sweet! 8)
Marty,
I guess they were too cheap to pay for that.....glad you like it.....can you almost smell the dry rot?
Loren...
Achoo! :'( where is my allergy meds?
Howdy All,
I got the grain elevator portion put together, along with the scale house. I have windows arriving on Monday, so I should be able to progress further next week.
Thanks for stopping by.....
Loren...
I made some more progress, The windows are Tichy 8068, open and closed versions. The main building is put together, and the grain elevator is done. I used a different light source to shoot these photos, and the building has more of a brown, than gray look? work continues on.....thanks for stopping by....
Loren...
Hi Loren,
I don't know if you are Dr. Grunge or Ken on the Sierra West site. Some very nice work.
Scott, Ken still has him on the grunge. Hard to challenge Ken in that regard. Very nice modeling anyway.
ed
Nice work. I like your approach and methods. Solid attention to detail (sometimes my failing). Despite your issues with the white balance in your photos you've convinced me to try this stain. Couldn't find it at the two local Michael's so I ordered it online.
--Rich
Steve,
I am me!!! not on the Sierra west site, must be someone else who models old looking structures.
Thanks for the comment...
Loren..
Ed,
Thanks for the comment....
Loren...
Rich,
Give it a try, they also have Barn wood brown. I am going to try some samples on that soon. Those craft people can be very Crafty!!!!
Thanks for the comment...
Loren...
Hi Loren:
Great looking build so far.
Karl
Ah yes Loren. I saw the brown so I bought the brown along with the gray. We'll see how they work out.
--RIch
Karl,
Always an honor to receive a comment from you....
Loren....
Rich,
Both are big bottles, enough to last a lifetime. Too bad they do not offer it in a smaller bottle....good luck with it..
Loren...
Hey All,
So I got the rear canopy finished. Boy what a pain that was to build. I did not build it attached to the structure., so I had to build a height guide for it. Came out pretty good, used some left over roof paper from my Carter Supply build for the tar paper, and added some tissue tarps. I did the canopy foundation in brick, as I wanted to represent an older structure. Also got the sign put up. Thanks for taking a look.....
Loren...
Hey looking very cool.
I'm liking this build!
--Rich
Very nice work.
Eric Quebec city
Karl, Rich, Eric,
Thanks for the comments....
Loren...
Back again everyone,
I finished up the assembly of the main building, and got one of the loading docks done. Also got the small signs made, and installed. Only one more loading dock to go, and than some of the roof details. I am not sure if I am going to make the small coal shed. I had already built the storage shed for the Brewery I did, so that's out.
On a side note, since I began collecting craftsman kits a year and a half ago, the last picture is of a kit that I thought I could never get. But alas Santa found one for a good price....Thanks for taking a look...
Loren...
Howdy All,
I finished up the build today. Just a little info on some of the details. I made the cyclone from scratch (which you can see posted early on) The cyclone tubes are made from brass rod. I used my homemade rust wash to rust the cyclone and pipes. There is nothing like real Rust..... Under the canopy, the lights over the doors, I was one shade short, so I made just bare wires hanging out. So here sits another build that's going to be boxed, and put in the closet...oh! well! I sure do enjoy building them though...Working on a new idea for the next build...have to draw up some plans...As the great Arnold once said "I"ll Be Back".. Thanks for following along...
Loren...
Looks great, Loren. I especially like the roofing. I don't like working with the Campbell shingles, but yours look great.
Jeff
That turned out really great. Nice work!
John
Excellent build Loren. 8)
Jeff, John, Greg,
Thanks for the compliments.....
Loren...
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Donato,
That's an EXCEPTIONAL Compliment.....Thanks
Loren...
Hey All,
If anyone out there has any interest in swapping this build up for a craftsman kit, PM me, and we will see what we can do.
Thanks,
Loren...
Hey Loren:
That is one very cool model.
Karl
Loren,
Very nice model! I f you are going to let the roundhouse kit sit on the shelf, I think you ought to sell it to me at a very good price for me.
Karl,
Thanks for the compliment...Baxter's is looking good on your end.
Loren...
Steve,
unfortunately it is going to sit on the shelf, along with the other 49 limited edition kits. I know people say "what a waste".
I am saving them for a future generation on model railroaders. Contact me in about 15 years, and at that point it might be $10,000 for the round house......Thanks for the compliment on the build...
Loren...