I mentioned buying this kit in yesterday's daily thread and Jimmy asked if I could do a build thread on it. I was going to build a new CCK kit but that will have to wait till after.( Sorry Jeff!) Bob Seckler built the prototype that Jimmy has been showing since he brought it out at the big Springfield show back in January. My plan is to build it close to the build Bob did but with different trim colors. I'll probably do it up as a telephone company building for a future diorama with some Sylvan trucks.
The box and what's in the box...
I looked at this building about a dozen times since January and thought it was done with shingles over the basswood. I was surprised when I opened the box and found that the texture was done with the laser. This should be a fun build so stay tuned, I'm off to start bracing.
Following. It looks like a interesting build.
Danny,
Jimmy did an excellent job designing this kit. It's really cool & very interesting. Can't wait to see when you complete it. Thanx Thom...
Dan
Interesting wall detail and kit. I will be following along.
Now that looks like an interesting build.
I will be following this one.
Jim
Saw this kit in Marlborough but forgot to swing back to Jimmy's table to pick one up.... realized I forgot when I was in Portsmouth! drat.....
Thanks everyone for following the build. Buddy up into 2's and get into a line. :D I braced the walls last night and only screwed up one of the ends for the covered stairwell. I'll try and post pictures later.
Those are some good looking instructions. Those 3d exploded images would be really helpful. Not every great kit maker is great with instructions. I know a lot of you don't need them, but...it's nice to know help is there when I get a little sideways.
I'll be following along too. ;)
Interesting looking structure as well as an interesting approach to shingled walls. :D
Looking good Dan, and I will be following along. And when completed a great structure to show off a couple of your vehicles !!
--Paul
Neat kit Dan.....I'll be looking in. :)
Look to be an interesting build Dan. That siding is unique. I love how laser cutting is getting pretty creative nowadays. I went over to the web site (railroadkits.com) to see what the rest of the structure looks like but it has not been posted.
--Rich
PS nice seeing you at George's
Hi Raymo:
I'll be watching and following along.
Karl
Hey Dan
I'll be following along as well. Really neat shingled walls for sure. That must take up some laser time! I also like the way Jimmy includes the 3-D exploded images.
John,Bob,Paul,Rich,Karl, and Mark, Thanks for also following this thread. There's a couple seats up here near the front. Back to work...
I started by going through the wood pieces by removing the window pieces left in the walls made by the laser cutting process. Then the strip wood that is supplied for bracing was cut and glued in place. I followed the bracing diagram that came in the kit.
I decided to paint the walls with some Floquil CN #17 Grey. The trim will be painted with Testors Model Master Medium Green FS 34102. I painted a couple of the pieces removed from the wall to check the colors.
After the glue dried on the bracing, I went over the walls and removed the kerf left behind from cutting the walls, and trued up the edges.
Sorry if I'm getting too basic on the assembly of this kit. I think Jimmy wants to use this build as a reference for it's directions.
I removed the windows from the sprues and cleaned them up with a #11 blade and a sanding stick.
I gave them a nice bath to clean any sanding dust off of the plastic
I shaved down a piece of stripwood to hold the chimney casting for painting.
Nice modeling.
I cleaned up the garage door pieces so they could be assembled. It was at this point I realized that I only had parts for 2 doors on not 3. :o An e-mail was sent to Jimmy for the 3rd.
When you receive a kit you ordered or see one of the many of the fine manufacturers on this forum at a show, they always seem to have these nice postcards that are perfect for holding small parts for painting. The windows and doors were attached to loops of tape and painted with an air brush.
The edges of the roof (rooves?) panels were painted by brush, as was the strip wood for the corner trim with the green.
The back side of the walls were painted with Flat Black to help with keeping the walls from bowing when the top color is applied.
That's it for now, more later.... 8)
I'll be watching too. I tried to find a buddy but nobody wanted to hold my hand.
This kit won't be on the website until the "kinks" are worked out.
I got the idea from this ugly old garage...
Jimmy
Quote from: RailroadKits on December 08, 2017, 07:37:08 PM
I'll be watching too. I tried to find a buddy but nobody wanted to hold my hand.
This kit won't be on the website until the "kinks" are worked out.
I got the idea from this ugly old garage...
Jimmy
I'll see if I can find you a Teddy Bear... ;D
Following along...👍🏻
Looking good so far Dan !! And like the color choices you selected...
--Paul
Dan
Your off to a great start. That is sure a unique siding material.
Thanks for the comments guys. I painted the walls last night, hope to get more done later today.
Coming along nicely Dan. I like the color choices. Keep the progress photos coming!
Dan,
Don't know how I missed this one but you can add me to the followers.
Great start and I approve of the colors.
Tom ;D
Dan. Thanks Good to have a"refresher course " on projects. Jim
Dan
I am on the list and keeping my eye on this too
Thanks for joining the frey guys. Plenty of room in the back....
I painted the walls yesterday after updating the thread and let them dry overnight.
I also painted the chimney casting with Rustoleum Cinnamon, which looks like the early orange brick.
This afternoon I drybrushed Americana Grey Sky over the walls to bring out the edges of the shingles.
I also added the dredded nail holes with a pounce wheel and lifted a couple clapboards on the left side shed pieces.
I also dry brushed the grey on the windows and doors. the roof pieces and corner trim was also done.
Next up, everything gets an A&I wash (wersh?)... more in a few....
Looking good, Dan.
I'm late to the party, but I'll be following along, too.
Count me in Dan.....hey can I squeeze in up front....??? Can't see from the back!
Nice modeling Donato.
Thanks for jumping in on the follow guys. Donato, can you buddy up with Jimmy D.?
Just a quick update to this thread. I gave the windows and doors, stripwood, and roof pieces I painted green an wash with the medium dillution A&I
I didn't want the walls to dark so I washed them with the light dillution.
I gave the windows and doors a coating of flat finish and let them dry. I like using Gallery Glass for windows, I use the frosted version for the "dirty window" look.
While those were drying, I started adding the corner trim and trimming out the doors. I also checked the window and door openings again for fit and made any adjustments.
Windows seem to set up nice!
I noticed this on the pilot model when I photographed it, and this building has the same issue. When the door is fitted to the frame the opening is a 1/16th of an inch to wide. The door opening is also to short height wise by a long 1/32nd of of an inch. I'm not concerned with the height and I have an idea to mask the width and I'm working on that now. I will also let Jimmy know about these problems.
Looking good Dan. Can you have Jimmy and Danato keep it down in front - some of us are trying to pay attention and learn something.
He hit me first...!!!!
Don't make me pull this thread over!😬
Alright.. back to the build. On the pilot model you can see the edges of the doors don't quite fit the door opening. My fix was to glue 1X6's on each side of the doors. Hopefully once they are painted, the edges of the doors won't show up so much.
I started to glue the walls together using my Bob Mitchell signature series 12" square two-sided taped to a piece of glass jig.
One basic box...
Then the additions were assembled
On to the covered stairwell. I wasn't sure how the stairwell went together, so I dry fitted it to the building and figured it needed the 1/16 square added to the ends of the long wall. The ends were then glued to the inside of the long wall to line up with mounting holes on the wall.
Jimmy supplies a piece of black paper to be used for the tar paper covering on the stairwell, but I wanted to use something that would work with the building colors. I ended going with a sheet of Worn Green tarpaper made by Builders in Scale.
I painted the laser cut batten piece and roof piece with the CN Grey because I have no Driftwood.. :( When the paint dried, I gave it a wash of the medium A&I.
Looking good Raymo!
Yeah, I keep a lot of scale 1x and 2x stripwood on hand when I run into opening issues like you did. Regarding the Bob Mitchell mirror set-up,,, did you see Bob's reflection in it?---- because he says that is why he uses the mirror: so he can see his reflection when he models.......
It was at this point I ran into more problems. After I cut the battens from the carrier sheet and laid it on the wall, it was too short at each end. I ended up cutting off each end vertical batten, and splicing in pieces into the space made from pieces cut from the carrier. I touched up the paint and A&I, (Getting a little heavy handed on the A&I) and made it fit.
Quote from: rpdylan on December 27, 2017, 05:18:25 PM
Looking good Raymo!
Yeah, I keep a lot of scale 1x and 2x stripwood on hand when I run into opening issues like you did. Regarding the Bob Mitchell mirror set-up,,, did you see Bob's reflection in it?---- because he says that is why he uses the mirror: so he can see his reflection when he models.......
That's for his wardrobe changes.... ;D
I also ran into problems on the ends. I modified the end batten on the left side. You can see on the pilot model that Bob didn't do so well either. I decided to swap the doors, using the solid panel door on the stairwell
On the upper end, I applied the batten to the wall without modification, and then added an additional vertical batten on the corner.
The stairwell was glued to the building.
As you can see in some of my photos I added window shades using Polly Scale Southern Sylvan Green.
I also sprayed the supplied roofing shingles with grey primer.
That's it for now, I need to do some more touch up on the stairwell and add the additions....
Keep up the great work, going to look amazing.
Lookin' good so far, Dan. I'm stealing the Bob Mitchell square on a piece of glass idea. 8)
Jeff
Ditto with the others, great start and looking good.
Tom ;D
Great modeling.
Not too shabby Dan....
Looking good Dan!
Enjoying the thread. Got a service vee-hickle ready to go for the scene?
Dan
This build is coming along nicely, I'm enjoying the thread.
Nice work Dan! I love that siding.
Yesterday I spotted a building that had an attachment with exactly the same stuff. It looked fairly new. I'll go back an get some photos on a nicer day.
--Rich
Thanks everyone for checking in and watching this build. I can almost see the end of the build.
Quote from: Dave K. on December 30, 2017, 07:59:38 AM
Enjoying the thread. Got a service vee-hickle ready to go for the scene?
I have a couple of Sylvan's in the box and a Sheepscot on the bench, but that will be later....
Just a quick update to the thread tonight. I added the windows and doors to the clapboard addition. Then it was attached to the building under the stairwell.
I checked the fit of the roof after the glue dried and found that one of the battens kept it out away from the wall. A quick notch on the roof card fixed the problem.
I added the windows and doors to what I call the office addition. Then that was attached to the right side of the building flush with the front wall.
Going back to the stairway, there's a filler piece that gets glued into the lower section even though it isn't seen. I painted it the CN Grey and then the medium A&I.
I wasn't happy with the primer grey for the roofing shingles, so I painted them with Rustoleum Oregano Green. It dried looking like olive drab. Because of the satin finish, I'll have to flat finish them after the weathering.
The pilot model had the clapboard addition roof covered with corrugated roofing but there seems to be a problem....
When I looked in the box there was none of that nice Northeastern roofing material. So I looked under the box.. Nope not there either... So I went to my stock... Bingo... I can do the roof after I paint it..
That's it for now.. More pictures to process.
Dan,
Looking good, very good.
Tom ;D
Really nice...nice visual change from clapboard. 👍🏻
Great , I love those walls , so different.
Great looking shed.
Thanks for the comments everyone.
A little update to this thread to show I did find my bench this week. I added so 3M transfer tape to the smaller roof panels.
I pulled the main roof panel out and folded the corners up and used a piece of blue tape to hold it together.
I glued some support bracing to the underside to add some strength to the roof so it won't sag over time.
While that was drying, I cut some of the green tarpaper into scale 3'strips
I added them to the office roof and the covered stairwell.
I added a piece of bracing to the edge of the roof that will mount to the main building. this was done to prevent sagging over time, and also can be used as a gluing surface. Because of the slope of the office roof, keep bracing a little back from the edge
I added the 2 roofs (rooves?) to the building. I'm also showing an after the fact photo of the bracing added to the stairwell roof.
I gave the roofs a little dry brushing with some white acrylic. When this dried, I gave it a wash with some medium A&I.
Before I start shingling the main roof I used a black marker to create a shadow on the edge of the roof. I also could have used the dark green but I don't think it will be seen. I glued the underside of the roof where the seams are.
That's it for now, see ya in a bit....
Looking good! Would be kinda cool to have those walls sold in sheets for scratch building......
Quote from: rpdylan on January 07, 2018, 07:09:47 PM
Looking good! Would be kinda cool to have those walls sold in sheets for scratch building......
Talk to Jimmy at Springfield Bob...
Great idea Bob!
JD
Jimmy,
Is it too late to have some sheets made for sale at Springfield? (I figure it would be as the show is in about 2 weeks!!)
OK, Back to the build... So I found time to paint the garage doors and the corrugated roofing. When the paint dried the paint had as we say in the bodyshop business "blushed", meaning it had this white-ish effect to the paint. This is usually the result of high humidity and fast drying thinner, neither of which was happening here. I used the same paint and thinner to paint the plastic doors and windows and didn't have a problem, so it confused me a bit. I could live with it on the metal roofing, but I needed to do some thing with the garage doors.
I found this olive green craft paint in my stash that was very close to the Testor's green, so I gave them a coat.
And that seemed to do the trick. I gave the doors a dry-brushing of white but I got a little heavy handed so I went back over them with a dry-brushing of the green and a wash of medium A&I. You'll see them in a bit...
I turned to the left hand addition roof and cut the roofing down to scale 6'X 3' panels. I touched up the edges with a med green Prisma marker and attached them to the roof. When the panels were all on I gave the roof a dry brush of silver. I also broke out the weathering powders and lightly applied rust and black to the panels.
Then it was glued down in place.
I glued the garage doors in place. I think the match up pretty good. Before I glued them in, I covered the windows with some clear styrene. I looked for some of that in the box but there was none, so I had to go to my stash to get it. I'll dull it down when I do the final tough up.
Then it came time to attach the roof. A liberal coating of glue around the edges and then the roof was attached. I felt like a little kid with blocks making this up in the 2nd photo to get the roof to sit flat on 4 corners. It was left over night to dry.
Transfer tape was then attached to the roof.
Then the fun job of attaching the shingle strips I painted earlier to the roof was started. I did about 10 or 12 strips at a time and then cut the edges. I don't show it here but I used small dabs of glue on the ends where I intend to cut the edges to hold the strips in place while cutting.
In the real world, single shingles would have been cut to cap the edges of the roofs where they meet. I had had enough of shingles by this point, so I used strips of paper from the shingle sheets to cap the edges. This is how the pilot model was done.
I touched up some of the bricks on the chimney with some dark red and rust colored paint. Then it was given a wash of white acrylic and the excess wiped off.
Now this is a subject that I find humor in on how modelers approach it and it was brought up in John's tower build a couple of weeks ago. I'm talking about chimney placements on buildings. Here's a picture of the pilot model built by Bob Seckler, someone that is in the building trades. He chose to put the chimney on the right side of the roof looking at it from the front, (this photo shows the back) which means in the real world the chimney would dissect the bay that runs through the front to the back. That doesn't make sense to me.. just saying... I'll put mine on the left side of the roof.
I started the hole with an 1/8" drill bit and the a "SHARP" #11 blade to make the hole taking small bite till the chimney fit. I then secured it with some tacky glue. I also painted the top of the chimney with some Aged Concrete.
Time to weather the roof, more in a bit....
Dan,
Wow! That's a whole lot of steps to follow. First, I agree totally about the chimney placement. I feel the same way about window shades in a warehouse. Who does that? Applying a little thought to the interior layout of a building helps us make our models more realistic.
I like your approach to the roofing panels, specifically using the green marker on the edges. Sometimes I think we, as modelers, get caught up in the "rusty roof syndrome". Always good, IMO, to see someone use a slightly different approach.
Beautiful work, your garage is coming out really well!
Nice looking roof.
Wonderful work Dan.
Now are you going to gunk up the base of the chimney with "tar"- a mixture of black paint and white glue?
I've seen some models where this was slopped on and I thought looked awful, but the word was that was how real roofers would have done it.
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Checking in for a Quick update.. Jerry, Curt, Donato and Mr. Engler, Thanks for the nice comments and checking in on the build. Mike, adding the pitch to the roof is part of tonights update... First I gave the roof a light dry-brushing of acrylic white paint. Then a wash of A&I was next.
Then I mixed up the pitch, A big dab of Elmer's white glue and a few drops of Grimy Black Paint. I added that to the base of the chimney using a toothpick.
I also did the addition roofs where they met the building.
On the pilot model there were little vent stacks added to the additions. And again I question the placement of the vent stack on the office side roof. It's big and bulky and right over the doorway..???.. Make's no sense.. again!
And once again I went to the box for the castings... And NOTHING! Maybe I'm missing a bag that wasn't put in the box or maybe Jimmy is planning on using some of his new castings that he bought from George? YEAH! I'm sure that's the excuse he will use, "I'm waiting on getting the castings up and running before I add them to the kits".. We'll see...
So I went to my box for some castings and came up with these. Cleaned them up and there ready for primer and paint.
I also found a couple of signs and added them.
Danny,
Most excellent pictorial sir.👍👍 Thanx Thom...
Dan
Very nice work!
I gave myself a goal of finishing this kit for Springfield weekend and I've come real close. I still have some more weathering, signage, and lighting to finish it up. This thread is far from done but I think I can finish it up in a couple nights time. Off to Springfield.... 8)
Thom and John, Thanks...