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Title: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 17, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
I have been busy posting this on both Facebook and the RRLine forum, and to be honest, keep forgetting about this site, UNTIL, Bob Van Gelder bought it up in an email today.

So, to sum up, I am starting a new layout, or to be more precise, for me, a large operating diorama. I'm not into operations much, but I do love dioramas, and this one, a 5' x 10' area, will be my biggest dio ever.

So, my first structure I am  building specifically for the , oh, lets just call it what it is, layout (ok, there, I've said it), is an Loco and Car shed (or shop, I'm not particular). It will have 3 stalls, one for repair and re-dress of freight cars, and of the other two, one will have an inspection pit. With lights.

This is going to be a long winded project, just for this building, as I am going to the max on detail, which includes operating doors made with scratchbuilt brass sheet and brass tubing with door latches to hold it open when in use.

I drew out the plans for the wall bracing, and when that part was built, added the siding. I went then to the floor, board by board, added rails, an inspection pit, lights, and now I am on the doors and hinges. Here are the shots I have so far, obviously, not all of them, but a good selection. 

Since I have only 6 pictures per post, I will show more in the next several posts.

Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 17, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
Adding a few more. I may do this over several days. The last one here is the start of how I made the window frames, so I will stop for the moment and continue this part later.

Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: postalkarl on December 17, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
Hey Adm. Nelson

I will be following along. Looks great so far.

Karl
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 17, 2017, 05:08:34 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on December 17, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
Hey Adm. Nelson

I will be following along. Looks great so far.

Karl

Thanks Karl, and you just reminded me, my name doesn't show up here  :P. So, for the record, my name is Tony Burgess, but I go by Tony.  :D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: ACL1504 on December 17, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
Count me in on the followers and lurkers as well.

Tom ;D
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Post by: tct855 on December 17, 2017, 05:20:38 PM
Count me in too as a lurker, if you don't mind the 2nd most un-attractive modeler on the forum looking over your keyboard.  Thanx Thom...
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Janbouli on December 17, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
Lurking along.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 17, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
Following.  Beautiful framing and wood planking.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: S&S RR on December 17, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Tony


Very nice start to your build.  Thanks for sharing it with us on this forum. I will be following along.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: sdrees on December 17, 2017, 09:39:12 PM
Tony,

I will also be lurking around your post. Looks good
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Post by: GPdemayo on December 18, 2017, 08:32:54 AM
I'll be looking in also Tony..... :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: BandOGuy on December 18, 2017, 09:28:33 AM
I'll be another member of Lurkers Anonymous, Tony, if you keep up this fantastic work.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: jimmillho on December 18, 2017, 11:37:30 AM
I will be watching along with all the other "Lurkers"

Jim
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Post by: donatode on December 18, 2017, 02:02:01 PM
(https://media-exp2.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAASbAAAAJDNmZWI4NWRlLTYyY2YtNGM2My04OThlLWRhZTIyZWE1ZTExYQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Sparky on December 18, 2017, 02:58:15 PM
Great looking project there Tony, I will be watching and learning. Thanks for starting this diorama.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 04:49:28 PM
Wow, too many to reply to each. I don't mind lurkers, just make a comment once in a while, or better yet, a question. Thank you all.

Here are the side windows I did on the 'car' side of the building. They are a little larger, and easier to see, but the technique is about the same for all. I have most of the steps printed on the picture, so it should be self-explanatory, however, if not, that's where the questions come in  ;D

These windows are really meant for a brick or stone wall, but I liked them. But, that being said, the frame of the window is thinner, so on the other windows, I used some 2 x 2 stripwood for the backing and outer part of the framework. On these, I used 1 x 2 stripwood.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
And some more....
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 05:00:26 PM
The inspection pit! I wanted to do this. Ken Karns from a model he built of the Sierra West Scale Models engine shed (I also built one) gave me the idea for this. It went together quite well, actually. I am building the shed on some pink insulation, 1/2", so cutting out the area for the pit was very easy to do. Once I sized the area, I pretty much built it outside the box, so to speak, and fitted it in when finished. I added a few details after, along with some LED lights. And I have to admit, that looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 05:03:25 PM
A few more to the pit.

Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 05:05:35 PM
And some more???

Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 18, 2017, 05:09:23 PM
And the last for today.

I also put in some hinges from Vector Cut for the side door. The door was scratchbuilt.

Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Janbouli on December 18, 2017, 05:41:55 PM
Beautiful work Tony.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 19, 2017, 10:16:59 AM
Gorgeous modeling Tony.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: S&S RR on December 19, 2017, 09:18:25 PM
Tony


This is some great modeling - I'm really enjoying your thread.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: donatode on December 19, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
WoW Tony....I'm speechless. I've seen a few modeled inspection pits, but never seen one with a floor drain...it is often missed....nice touch.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on December 20, 2017, 03:47:03 AM
Tony,
Welcome to the Forum. Have followed your impressive builds online in the past. Will be nice to watch them here too. Looks like your well along to share another beautiful looking model to all.
Tommy
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 20, 2017, 04:01:44 PM
Janbouli, Curt and John, thank you.

Donato, yep, I figure there was a water hose, and it needed to drain out. Got the idea from another friend.

Thanks Tommy, I've been a member for a little while, but mostly I was a lurker. I posted a few pictures of my version of Sokol's, a mostly scratchbuilt model from a Bar Mills kit. Another had done a great job here, and I posted a few of my own pictures on his post. I don't like doing that too much, I feel I'm imposing on another's thread.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 30, 2017, 04:21:29 PM
Haven't been doing too much to the shed lately, been doing a little scenery work. But I have been building some operating hinges for the car shed side, will be using regular static kind for the other doors, just wanted to try this out. I cut some .005" brass sheet into 1/16" wide strips and soldered a 1/16" long brass rod I cut from a brass tubing, about 1-32" by a .014" I/d. I drilled holes through the hinge into the door for some NBW's. I have one set of doors done, and another to be finished. Then onto the door construction for the other 3 engine doors.

Also made some operating door latches for when the doors are open.

Tony
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: deemery on December 30, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Did you include a drain for the water to escape in your inspection pit? 


(With work this good, you have to really dig to find something to ask! :-) )


dave
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 30, 2017, 06:59:19 PM
Very Impressive.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 31, 2017, 06:19:38 AM
Quote from: deemery on December 30, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Did you include a drain for the water to escape in your inspection pit? 


(With work this good, you have to really dig to find something to ask! :-) )


dave

Ha ha ha, a drain....hmmm, lets see, oh yes, I did. See the first picture I posted up there from December 18, it's on the r/h side.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on December 31, 2017, 06:20:19 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 30, 2017, 06:59:19 PM
Very Impressive.

Thank you Curt.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: donatode on December 31, 2017, 06:06:19 PM
...and this is HO .... ????

Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: deemery on December 31, 2017, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: adm.nelson on December 31, 2017, 06:19:38 AM
Quote from: deemery on December 30, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Did you include a drain for the water to escape in your inspection pit? 

(With work this good, you have to really dig to find something to ask! :-) )

dave

Ha ha ha, a drain....hmmm, lets see, oh yes, I did. See the first picture I posted up there from December 18, it's on the r/h side.
Yup, went back and found it! 


dave
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on January 01, 2018, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: Donato on December 31, 2017, 06:06:19 PM
...and this is HO .... ????

Yes, Donato, it really is HO scale.

Thanks,
Tony
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on January 01, 2018, 11:05:06 AM
Quote from: deemery on December 31, 2017, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: adm.nelson on December 31, 2017, 06:19:38 AM
Quote from: deemery on December 30, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Did you include a drain for the water to escape in your inspection pit? 

(With work this good, you have to really dig to find something to ask! :-) )

dave

Super. :)

And while I'm here, happy new year to everyone. Lets hope we have a great one.

Tony
Ha ha ha, a drain....hmmm, lets see, oh yes, I did. See the first picture I posted up there from December 18, it's on the r/h side.
Yup, went back and found it! 


dave
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 13, 2018, 09:07:58 AM
Hey guys. I know it's been a long time for an update. Been busy doing a couple of "challenges" for another group, but I am back into doing the shed. The caboose from AMB models was one of them. Besides, sometimes it feels good to get away for a while. I am happy to say, and somewhat relieved, I have all the doors on, but I chose only to make the 'car shed' side operable. Still, it took a lot of work. At this point, I have the walls and preliminary scenery down. I added the basic scenery prior to adding the walls. More to follow shortly.
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 13, 2018, 09:09:21 AM
The next set of photos.
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Post by: tct855 on April 13, 2018, 09:34:08 AM
Tony,
I never tire of looking over your shoulder on this build. Absolutely awesome craftsmanship here every step of the way.  Like PRR Modeler & my deep voice friend said, Impressive!  Thanx Thom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUL28Skt6E
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 13, 2018, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: tct855 on April 13, 2018, 09:34:08 AM
Tony,
I never tire of looking over your shoulder on this build. Absolutely awesome craftsmanship here every step of the way.  Like PRR Modeler & my deep voice friend said, Impressive!  Thanx Thom...


Thank you Thom.  :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 13, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
Really beautiful modeling.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 13, 2018, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 13, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
Really beautiful modeling.

Thank you Curt. Appreciate that.  :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: deemery on April 13, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
Nice job on Quaker Oats.  One suggestion:  take whatever you're using for weathering (paint, chalk, etc) and brush upwards from the bottom of the car.  Do this on both sides and particularly on the ends, to reflect the dirt kicked up as the car is moving.


dave
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Lynnb on April 13, 2018, 12:39:45 PM
Hi Tony , great build with loads of character. Stepping back a bit, I'm curious what you did to achieve the look of the boards on the walls, the greenish one's? Is it the Rembrandt/alcohol technique?
Thanks
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 13, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
Dave, Thank you. Actually, I can't take credit for the car, my wife bought it for me for my birthday some years back when she spotted this and one other in a hobby shop. Imagine that, my wife going to a hobby shop to shop for her husband; hardly ever heard of. But it happened once. So, although I agree with you, I'm reluctant to improve on the model. And it has been a favorite of mine ever since. But I might take that under consideration.

Lynn, thank you, and yes, pretty much what you said. I love their soft pastels, and have been using them almost exclusively for a couple of years now. Most of the time, I just dip my brush directly into the powder and brush it where I want it. The floor was done entirely of their pastels after a coating of india ink/alcohol wash. I keep my pastels I use most often in a parts bin for easy access. Once in a while, I will use water or alcohol to 'paint' the color over a larger area, or for a deeper saturation, but mostly the light weathering, I go on dry. I also have a larger parts bin for the weathering powders from Dr. Bens collection (second photo). Very easy to get to what I want at any time.

If your referring to the actual green, that was done over stripwood that was soaked in A/I, and then I used a technique I learned from Brett Gallant at Sierra West Scale models. That is to paint down some pastels with A/I then come back and paint on a resist, like mineral spirits, and before it dries completely, paint on the green (I go light on the paint, you don't want to saturate it), then use clear scotch tape to remove some of the paint. Leaves a weathered and worn look. I found that even after it has dried, it Is still possible to remove some paint with tape.  Then I follow up with additional powders to simulate blown up dirt from rain and soot from loco's. And just plain ol' light dusting from what ever blows that way.

I hope that answered your question. Thanks for asking.
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 17, 2018, 01:19:18 PM
I've now started on the small details, first, a woodworking bench for the car shop. I used a fine grain wood, but not too sure what it is. It has a close grain and hard enough to withstand the saw blade of the table saw, a Jim Byrnes saw with a .020" blade,  and the color is about right. The blade is about the right width for some 2" dogs. Never done this before, and it turned out rather well.
The first picture is similar to what I will be doing. It took a little time an patience, but at least I now have one bench top done. I used a .6mm brass screw for the front vice, with .010 styrene rod for the handle, 'threaded' through a toothpick I sized down using one of those dowel making jigs. The end vice handle is usually a little larger, and has heavier hardware, so a small Grandt Line T-union was used. I used .020" styrene rod for the handle. I have some paint touch up to do as the handles freely move within the holder. Now I need to make the supports and some shelving.
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 17, 2018, 01:20:01 PM
More pics
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 22, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
I not only have a second bench built, slightly smaller, but as far as the top is concerned, I'm done (I still have the legs to do, and a fair scattering of some woodworking tools). I added some dogs in the 'dog-holes', with one being an extra on the bench. These were actually made from basswood and painted to represent a harder wood.
Tony Burgess
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Post by: PRR Modeler on April 22, 2018, 07:08:09 PM
Really nice detailing work.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 22, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 22, 2018, 07:08:09 PM
Really nice detailing work.

Thank you Curt.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Jim Donovan on April 23, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
Thank you for sharing, amazing workmanship, I am learning a lot. Please keep updating, this is fun to watch come together.

Jim
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Post by: Lynnb on April 24, 2018, 02:23:07 PM
That is some nicely done very fine detail work you're doing.
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 24, 2018, 04:42:23 PM
Thank you Jim and Lynn, appreciate your comments. Yes, I will be updating as often as I can.
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 30, 2018, 04:36:11 PM
I finished the benches. Wanted to give a little tutorial on how I did the mortise and tenon joints for the legs. I could have used the table saw for some of it, but I chose another method. I think the photos explain it, if not, shoot me a question.
Tony Burgess
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 30, 2018, 04:38:49 PM
6 more to follow up
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 30, 2018, 04:39:56 PM
a few more  :)
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Post by: cuse on April 30, 2018, 04:42:15 PM
Beautiful work. Congrats on the excellent eyesight too!


John
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Post by: adm.nelson on April 30, 2018, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Cuse on April 30, 2018, 04:42:15 PM
Beautiful work. Congrats on the excellent eyesight too!
John

Thank you John. And just an FYI...I have but one good eye  :) I'm currently getting shots in my eye to help that. One shot so far and I see a slight improvement. Two more to go.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 30, 2018, 05:20:18 PM
Really top notch detail work.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 30, 2018, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 30, 2018, 05:20:18 PM
Really top notch detail work.

Thank you Curt.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Janbouli on April 30, 2018, 06:08:14 PM
That is so awesome, can't think of another word to describe it.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/b6/79/21b6793ddcb249b7bab3a078a742c14d.png)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: tct855 on April 30, 2018, 06:11:19 PM
Take a bow Tony...

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Post by: Jim Donovan on April 30, 2018, 07:13:47 PM
I agree. Impressive. Can't wait to see what you do when both eyes are working!!  ;D
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 01, 2018, 05:18:54 PM
Janbouli, tct855 and Jim, thank you, you really made my day  :D
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Post by: GPdemayo on May 01, 2018, 06:06:38 PM
Cabinet maker quality carpentry Tony.....excellent.  8)
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Post by: ACL1504 on May 01, 2018, 06:15:13 PM
I agree with all the others, just wonderful and fantastic modeling.

Tom ;D 
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 01, 2018, 07:55:48 PM
Gregory and Tom, thank you very much.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 05, 2018, 01:59:59 PM
It took me a few days to figure out how to make the hand planes to go on my scratchbuilt HO scale benches for my engine and car shop. Luckily, I have some old ones I use and collect to replicate. I started out with some strips of the same tight grained mahogany I used for the bench tops, and sanded them down to the height of a scale 3.5 to 4", but smaller, (actual .030") on the width, as I was going to use some shavings from the wood side blanks for the plane sides. This bought it to the 3" or so width when finished. The shavings were left wider so as to be able to sand down when glued up. The plane blade is heavy duty aluminium foil, just the right scale for a 1/8" blade. I glued some extra shavings on the foil and cut to size, then glued in the slots. The handle was made from HO scale 1 x 4 styrene strip, carved with a file and sharp knife to get the contour, then painted a darker brown color (Vallejo paints) as it was handled a lot with dirty hands. I threw a few shavings of fresh wood in there for decoration.

Tony Burgess
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 05, 2018, 02:01:18 PM
Two more pics, plus one that shows the model at TWICE the actual size.
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Post by: Jim Donovan on May 05, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
This is going to be an engine shed for the books! I love checking in on your progress.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 06, 2018, 09:33:19 AM
Thank you Jim, I hope I can live up to that. I have so many ideas in my head, it's going to be quite a challenge, and one I had been dying to do for a long time.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 12, 2018, 05:06:26 PM
A little tutorial on how I made some shelves for the engine shed. The spacing can be adjusted as you want, I chose an 18", 12" and 8" I think for these ones. The pictures have wording to tell what I did. I used Woodworkers Titebond II yellow glue on all joints, as I also did on the benches. Works better than white glue for many applications.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 12, 2018, 05:07:13 PM
To continue....
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 12, 2018, 05:08:41 PM
more to come after this :-)
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 12, 2018, 05:09:15 PM
Last one...
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Post by: deemery on May 12, 2018, 05:44:04 PM
Very clever way to build a large number of shelves!


dave
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Post by: PRR Modeler on May 12, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
WOW. Really nice scratch building.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 12, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Dave and Curt, thank you.
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Post by: S&S RR on May 14, 2018, 07:35:08 AM
Fantastic work - it's all about the details.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on May 20, 2018, 01:08:37 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 14, 2018, 07:35:08 AM
Fantastic work - it's all about the details.

Thank you John, yes it is.

Sometimes, the smallest details take the longest time to make. I found a set of woodworking tools I bought some time back (for $4.95, full price) from SSLtd, and I have been busy detailing these little pieces. In the real world, they would scale up too big to use, I think the long plane works out to 10" high. But on their own, they add a nice detail. The price on their site now is about $20 for the same set. So you can see my reluctance in using them, but I think this is the model they should be used in.

They only included one auger bit for the hand drill (brace), so I made a few more. Once I did, I needed a way to store them, rather than have them hanging around loose. So I built a caddy to hold the largest ones in back, and the smaller ones up front, and it will be hung on the wall, or a peg board of sorts later.

So how did I make the drill bits? I took some small brass strips, .010 x .018 and .010 x .030, put a pair of pliers on one end, about 1/2" in, and another flat nose pliers on the end and twisted the end until I had the 'coils' I wanted to represent the bit. I then cut it off to length and filed the ends for the screw end and chucking end.

The case was made from 2 x 12, with grooves scribed in it lengthways, sanded to round out the grooves, 3 grooves for the larger bits, about 6 for the smaller ones. Then it was just a matter of gluing the parts together. Since the bits were not needed to be removed, I glued them in too.

I assume that end beams on a freight cars needed large holes, hence the reason for the large bits. I have a couple of sets of bits and a several braces of my own (antique ones, which still work wonders), and they work great for drilling holes, and these are what would have been used a lot back then too.
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Post by: postalkarl on May 21, 2018, 09:40:07 AM
Hey Admiral:

Very very well done so far. Love the colors and all the great details you have made so far. Keep the photos coming.

karl
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Post by: PRR Modeler on May 21, 2018, 09:58:47 AM
The detail work is amazing.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 21, 2018, 04:45:46 PM
Karl and Curt, thank you both.

Tony Burgess
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:51:06 PM
Been busy making a few things. A bench, 12 boxes, a cabinet to hold some scratchbuilt auger bits, and a set of 6 shelves.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:52:25 PM
A few pics on how I did the bench
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:54:31 PM
and to continue...
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
and the shelves I did:
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:57:17 PM
to continue...
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:59:06 PM
and more...
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 04:59:56 PM
last set, I think...
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Post by: PRR Modeler on May 26, 2018, 05:48:26 PM
All I can say is WOW!
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 26, 2018, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 26, 2018, 05:48:26 PM
All I can say is WOW!

Thanks Curt, sometimes I say the same thing, like, "WOW, that actually worked", not having tried it before.
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Post by: jimmillho on May 27, 2018, 01:05:30 PM
OK, I will say it too  "WOW, that really did work".

Jim
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 27, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
Thanks Jim.

On another thread, I was given a challenge. Bob Santos had done a shorter box that had been knocked open on one corner with nails exposed, in a larger scale. So I made one in HO. I used a .009" drill bit and .008" bronze wire for the nails which were painted Testor's rubber color. The box is made up of 2x6 for the bottom and 2x8 for the sides. The holes were drilled in the one corner that will show the nails sticking out. The box is typical assembly, but making the ends square here is critical.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 27, 2018, 05:43:46 PM
Here are a few shots of one detail I added to the box. I used a 1mm bolt to replace the plastic shaft of the Ticky Train jack, with a nut (I filed down the head of the bolt to represent the top of the jack). I drilled a .022" hole in the side of the nut to accept a brass rod for a handle. Apparently, the unit seized up long ago, was discarded and tossed in the box, where it still resides. I want to add a flew more small details inside the box, so it isn't entirely finished.
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 27, 2018, 07:03:40 PM
Last picture for tonight. I finished up the detail and painted a valve casting from Shapeways. I placed it on the scenery, but it isn't set in, and may not even be the final location.

Tony Burgess
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Post by: Janbouli on May 28, 2018, 03:30:22 AM
Superb Tony .
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 28, 2018, 05:44:13 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 28, 2018, 03:30:22 AM
Superb Tony .

Thank you. My grand daughter Sarah, lives in the Netherlands. My step son (her father) said he thinks he will visit her sometime later this year. Beautiful country.
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Post by: postalkarl on May 28, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
Hey Admiral Nelson:

very well executed. I love your details.

karl
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 28, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 28, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
Hey Admiral Nelson:

very well executed. I love your details.

karl

Thanks Karl. Just finished up a few details, boy, these little things take some time.
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Post by: Jim Donovan on May 28, 2018, 09:51:25 PM
It is but it is amazing to watch an artist create a masterpiece. Moreover it is fantastic that you take the time to detail how you accomplish each part of the whole. I see a single stall engine house in my layouts future. Not sure I can get anywhere near the detail but sure understand better what it is going to take and have a blue print to follow. Thanks

Jim D
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Post by: postalkarl on May 29, 2018, 07:36:38 AM
Hey Admiral:

WOW!!!!! how very cool. Love all those beautiful tool and parts. You are A master.

karl
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Post by: cuse on May 29, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
Those details are really fantastic. Great work!


John
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Post by: adm.nelson on May 29, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Jim, Karl and John, thank you all very much. Your comments are very kind and welcome.
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Post by: adm.nelson on June 24, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
Sorry I haven't been able to get anything posted for a while, but, I wanted to get your thoughts. I painted, if you can call it painting, all these resin, and one metal, castings using only soft pastel chalks. To me it gives a feel of dust laden shelving that isn't used that often. I kinda like it, but wanted some views of others. In some cases, like the bench, I will be adding some extra details. These all come from Sierra West Scale Models if I remember right. Keep in mind, these are blown up pretty large compared to the actual size. The last one shows an actual size shot for comparison. 
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Post by: PRR Modeler on June 24, 2018, 11:34:15 AM
I think they look great for something that is not used very often.
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Post by: adm.nelson on June 24, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 24, 2018, 11:34:15 AM
I think they look great for something that is not used very often.

Thanks Curt. It is a great detail that is somewhat easily done, and can be added amongst all the other items I want to add. Builds a great looking (I hope) overall scene.
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 20, 2018, 07:56:57 PM
I keep forgetting to post some updates here, but then I have been slow at getting anything done. However, details do take time, and the more detailed the more time. But I have made a small shelf with some various wood clamps, some from Shapeways, some from SSLtd, and a couple I did myself. But I wanted somewhere to hang these tools. Next to the bench was the most logical choice. A few filler pieces, and bingo, I have what I wanted. I also needed to have a space to hang the auger bits I made, and it too had to be fairly close by. The two planes on the side of the shelf are SSLtd, and are a tad large for HO scale, but I wanted them in the model, but off the shelf where they would over shadow the 'scale' ones I made. So, another great place to hang them was on the side.
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Post by: PRR Modeler on July 20, 2018, 09:05:02 PM
Admiral you are the Jedi master of detail parts.
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Post by: Janbouli on July 21, 2018, 03:58:52 PM
What Curt said
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0789/8511/products/Jedi-Master_design-square_a01d6e64-7d0f-467f-ba51-cdaeaea9e474_1024x1024.jpg?v=1531393659) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0789/8511/products/Jedi-Master_design-square_a01d6e64-7d0f-467f-ba51-cdaeaea9e474_1024x1024.jpg?v=1531393659)
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 21, 2018, 08:15:29 PM
Curt and Janbouli, thank you both.
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Post by: Pennman on July 22, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Hello Tony,

"I had to start posting ....on the other site!"....excellent craftsmanship!... ;)

Rich
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 30, 2018, 09:14:03 PM
Thanks Rich, didn't know you were a member. I think we belong to everything together, except Facebook.

But to continue, I have been working on the supporting wall next to the car shed. I like the way it is coming along. I decided to add a couple of birds too, as we get birds in our shop at work all the time, so in an open shed like this, it would seem to me to be quite a common thing.

I added C-clamps, wrenches, various pieces of junk on selves and your typical stuff.

Two posts here to get all 10.

Tony B.
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 30, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
Post two. I showed a close-up of the birds. One is just starting to fly out.
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Post by: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
WOW WOW WOW.
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Post by: Janbouli on July 31, 2018, 03:25:04 AM
Tony , would it be possible for you to take a photo of the wall with all the tools when it's finished , a photo straight from the front, if you don't mind I could use that photo for my N-scale engine house?
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Post by: cuse on July 31, 2018, 06:26:42 AM
This is honestly some of the best modeling I've ever seen.


John
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Post by: vinceg on July 31, 2018, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on July 30, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
WOW WOW WOW.

Exactly the words that popped into my head.... Amazing. And this is HO scale!
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 31, 2018, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on July 31, 2018, 03:25:04 AM
Tony , would it be possible for you to take a photo of the wall with all the tools when it's finished , a photo straight from the front, if you don't mind I could use that photo for my N-scale engine house?

I'll see if that is possible. If so, I will gladly help.

Tony
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 31, 2018, 04:20:47 PM
To Curt, John and Vince. Thank you so much. It seems every time I do a model I try to go more to scale more and more.
Tony
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Jim Donovan on July 31, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Appreciate the posts, explanations and photo's. Fun to watch.
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Post by: adm.nelson on July 31, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Jim Donovan on July 31, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Appreciate the posts, explanations and photo's. Fun to watch.

Thank you Jim. Good to know they are appreciated.
Tony B.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: ACL1504 on August 01, 2018, 12:43:24 PM
Tony,

I've been lurking from the start and I really appreciate the craftsmanship and the effort it takes to post your progress.


Wonderful build and thread, keep the pictures coming.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 01, 2018, 04:16:18 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on August 01, 2018, 12:43:24 PM
Tony,

I've been lurking from the start and I really appreciate the craftsmanship and the effort it takes to post your progress.


Wonderful build and thread, keep the pictures coming.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D

Thank you Tom. Most appreciated.
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Post by: S&S RR on August 01, 2018, 04:39:22 PM
I just got caught up on your thread - beautiful work.  Please keep the pictures and updates coming. I'm really enjoying your thread.
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 02, 2018, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on August 01, 2018, 04:39:22 PM
I just got caught up on your thread - beautiful work.  Please keep the pictures and updates coming. I'm really enjoying your thread.

Thank you John, I certainly will.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on August 05, 2018, 05:54:10 PM
Just got the car side shed wall finished, and in place, although I feel I will be adding more stuff as time permits.

I have 2 posts.
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 05, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
second post.

Tony Burgess
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 05, 2018, 05:57:53 PM
Oh dear, somehow I entered to save, but couldn't change the past post. So I added another.
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Post by: PRR Modeler on August 05, 2018, 08:24:45 PM
You are a artist.
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 05, 2018, 08:35:52 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on August 05, 2018, 08:24:45 PM
You are a artist.

Thank you Curt. I appreciate that.
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Post by: GPdemayo on August 06, 2018, 08:32:37 AM
The details keep on getting better and better.....excellent job Tony.  8)
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 06, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on August 06, 2018, 08:32:37 AM
The details keep on getting better and better.....excellent job Tony.  8)

Thank you Greg. I think, however, I am going to replace the "fresh wood". It doesn't look right.

Tony
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 15, 2018, 09:06:58 PM
OK, I wasn't liking the lumber rack, and at the advice of a fellow British friend, took it out. I think I will put in a pipe rack instead.

On to another update, I am scratchbuilding a small 'shorty' flatcar to go in the shed that is under repair. I am liking what I have so far, and going off a frame that I have from a Sierra West Scale Models as a guide. I have more to go obviously, but this is a start.

I just have to switch gears once in a while. I don't have the right trucks here, and will switch them out. They are used for height and spacing measurements for now.

Tony
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Post by: bparrish on August 16, 2018, 03:24:31 AM
OK Mr. Nelson

Why does that look like a Ken Kidder locomotive in the middle of one of your photos?

Cam it be true that there is another modeler who has such old brass ? ? ? ?

Just a question.

see ya
Bob
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 16, 2018, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: bparrish on August 16, 2018, 03:24:31 AM
OK Mr. Nelson

Why does that look like a Ken Kidder locomotive in the middle of one of your photos?

Cam it be true that there is another modeler who has such old brass ? ? ? ?

Just a question.

see ya
Bob

Bob, yes, it is a Ken Kidder. I have 2 actually, and maybe a third, not sure, but definitely 2.

Tony
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 20, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
Been doing a little bit here and there yesterday, only time I had last week to get any modeling done. Summer stuff needed to be done before the heavy rains we got on Sunday. Even had a couple of power outages for about a second or two, just enough that we had to reset the clocks.

Anyway, I took an idea from Karl Allison and am building a 2 truck shorty flat car which is really run down and being re-furbished. I am not sure what to put in the side with the siding, maybe some benches (?) or oil drum on a platform, or something. I'm liking the oil drum idea.

The concept here is they have started tearing down the old planking, and already started with the new (knots included) planking, to speed things up some. I want to add some distressed areas on the center beam representing torn out nails, etc.

So, thoughts are always welcome.


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Post by: adm.nelson on August 20, 2018, 05:35:40 PM
To continue.....
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Post by: postalkarl on August 21, 2018, 01:36:00 PM
Hey Admiral:

Looks just great. Keep the photos coming.

Karl
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 21, 2018, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on August 21, 2018, 01:36:00 PM
Hey Admiral:

Looks just great. Keep the photos coming.

Karl

Thanks Karl :-)
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 26, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
I still have a little more to do to this flat car. I want to add a lid of sorts to the 'box' area, and a cap to the oil drum, more rust streaks behind the car, and so on. I just had enough for today. Do you see the nails still sticking out of the beams where the old planks were taken off?
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 26, 2018, 06:50:03 PM
A few more......

Tony Burgess
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Post by: postalkarl on August 27, 2018, 07:54:29 AM
Hey Adm. Nelson:

Great job on the flat car Love the weathering.

Karl
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Post by: GPdemayo on August 27, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Great job on the flatcar Tony..... 8)
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Post by: adm.nelson on August 27, 2018, 05:53:33 PM
Karl and Gregory, thank you. I still have much more planned for this one.
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Post by: postalkarl on August 28, 2018, 02:22:41 PM
Hey Admiral:

You are quite welcome deserve the compliments.

Karl
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Post by: GPdemayo on August 28, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: adm.nelson on August 27, 2018, 05:53:33 PM
Karl and Gregory, thank you. I still have much more planned for this one.


Looking forward to it.  :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on September 02, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Seems the smallest of details takes the longest. Any-way's, I have added a few, starting with the tank 'spout' and leaving it open so I can add a hose which will drain it before pulling it apart. I have ordered some pumps to pump the water outside. Also added some grab irons on the ends, sledge hammer and crow bars and a beer bottle someone left behind.
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Post by: adm.nelson on September 03, 2018, 11:57:30 AM
I added some gloves at the suggestion of a couple of acquaintances. They are cut off from woodland scenics figures and slightly modified for better look.
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Post by: adm.nelson on September 09, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
While I'm waiting for a couple of details in the mail, I decided to take a break and build a oil tank facility of sorts. Lots of detail to add to this, and it will be outside the building.
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Post by: adm.nelson on September 15, 2018, 06:24:50 AM
I had a chance to add a few more details to the oil tanks. The platform is made from 10x10 scale stripwood, the platform is a Ticky Train detail I finally had a chance to use. I painted it a chrome, then weathered it. The steps are styrene, made from 3/64" angle and .015" rod. The holes were spaced by running a ponce when along the inside of the angle and drilling for every other hole. I used some styrene glued to the top and bottom to stabilize it while I added the steps, then removed after it was glued up.
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Post by: adm.nelson on September 15, 2018, 06:25:54 AM
And a few more. I still  have some more details to add to this little gem.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on September 17, 2018, 04:51:44 PM
I have it finished, I think.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on September 17, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
a few more...
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Post by: DACS on February 05, 2019, 11:26:29 AM
   Scatchbuilt eh?   Are you sure you are not crossing your arms and nodding your head?  This stuff is awesome.   Good work?

Dave
Seattle
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Post by: adm.nelson on February 06, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
Thanks Dave. No, no nodding of the head :-). Actually, I haven't posted anything new for a while, got lazy, plus had to get a new computer as my other one froze, so setting everything up again is taking me some time. So I hope this coming weekend or so I can add some updates.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: rpdylan on February 06, 2019, 10:31:40 PM
Really nice work! Keep posting! It's work like this that always push me to greater standards in my modeling
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Post by: Oldguy on February 06, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
Whoa.  Way above my pay grade.
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Post by: richbeau on February 07, 2019, 09:17:55 AM
Just beautiful modeling.
--Rich
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Post by: GPdemayo on February 07, 2019, 09:26:27 AM
Beautiful work on the oil tanks Tony.....can't wait to see what you have cooked up for the scene they go in.  8)
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Post by: tct855 on February 07, 2019, 12:42:50 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8EMndSFFMk 
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Post by: adm.nelson on February 08, 2019, 02:45:48 PM
Thank you all. I have to take new photos as well as gather some I saved elsewhere, but this weekend (I hope) I will post more of the shop. The roof is in, and removable, I think you'll like it, need lots of detail work like smoke stacks and such, but it's a start.

In the mean time, I have these two to share quickly. I am off to the doctors in a few, so am limited in time today.
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:45:29 PM
It has been a while since I last posted, at least a month. I am sorry. There was a period there when my computer quit, and I had to get a new one, which is super fast, but I had some troubleshooting to do as it had some beginning hick-ups. On the bright side, the shop I bought it from gave me a 1 Tb back up hard drive and case, and a few other items he didn't charge me for, including adding a separate 125 gig hard drive for the operating system to go with the 500 gig storage hard drive installed. Then my cable went down because I had installed a new modem/router, and it wasn't hooking up, but now it is and I have everything running smoothly.

So, back to modeling, I have been working on-an-off doing a little at a time on a crane for the shop. I started with the framework of the crane, using 10x10's, and morticing them together, then tying them tight with .6mm nuts and bolts. Yes, folks, real nuts and bolts. They are brass, so I blacken them first. I added a base plate and top plate of styrene, with some small Grandt Line NBW castings, then made a concrete base from plaster, with another plate, and more NBW castings. Didn't see any point using the more expensive brass bolts here, as only the head would show.

I then added a crank and gearing to operate the crane, using styrene, brass tubing and watch gears, and bolting the assembly to the back of the crane. The crank alone is made of 5 small pieces of styrene. Wasn't sure I could do it, but apparently, I could. I'm happy with that little detail alone.

I have 38 pictures, so I hope it doesn't overload anyone here.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
#'s 7-12
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:47:22 PM
#'s 13-18
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:48:13 PM
#'s 19-24
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:49:12 PM
#'s 25-30
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:50:05 PM
#'s 31-36
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 02:51:43 PM
#'s 37-38

Hope you enjoyed this part. I will post more as I add the top pully's, wire and hook. Oh, and the bracket to attach to the wall.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: Jim Donovan on March 17, 2019, 04:24:32 PM
Thanks for sharing. I have your thread build bookmarked just to learn what can be accomplished. Amazing modeling.

Jim D
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 04:44:07 PM
Thanks Jim. I find I can do more than I would have thought sometimes
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Post by: Janbouli on March 17, 2019, 04:48:03 PM
I can only agree with Jim , amazing.
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Post by: PRR Modeler on March 17, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
That is some top notch modeling. How do you make the square holes?
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 17, 2019, 07:21:59 PM
Thanks Curt. The square holes were made by first drilling a hole about the size I needed, then with a small flat file, the one I used was a Jorgenson (I think) file that is tapered with a blank on the back side of the file, that comes to a sharp point, I file (more of a scrape than filing) the insides as far as I can from each end to create as square a hole as I can, turning the file as needed for each side, then I take some square strip wood and just force it through the rest of the way, and it comes out nice and square.
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 24, 2019, 05:16:33 PM

I made some 'pulleys' to guide the wire/rope up, over and down to the hook. I started with some square brass, filing off one side to make a 'U' section, then cut a slot for the clearance, and then drilled the .032" holes on each side. The holes will support the .032" brass tubing, and the inside of the tubing will accept some .6mm brass bolts, held together with the .6mm nut and washer. I had to drill out the tubing with a .0245" bit to give a little clearance to the bolt, but I only needed to take out a couple of thousandths.

Tony Burgess
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Post by: PRR Modeler on March 24, 2019, 07:17:01 PM
It's really amazing to know this is HO scale. Truly outstanding.
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 24, 2019, 08:57:31 PM
Thank you Curt
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Post by: cuse on March 25, 2019, 06:18:11 AM
this really is amazing stuff...one of my favorite threads. Nice work!!


John
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Post by: adm.nelson on March 26, 2019, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: cuse on March 25, 2019, 06:18:11 AM
this really is amazing stuff...one of my favorite threads. Nice work!!


John

Thank you John, nice of you to say, and for following along. Sorry I don't make more posts more often, too many other things get in the way, like work.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: postalkarl on March 26, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
Hey Admiral:

Everything is looking just beautiful. Keep the pics flowing.

Karl
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on March 26, 2019, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 26, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
Hey Admiral:

Everything is looking just beautiful. Keep the pics flowing.

Karl
Thank you Karl, I will try my best. :-)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: fsmcollector67 on March 28, 2019, 09:03:57 PM
Tony,
I was interested in the brass bolts you use. You said they are .6mm, I could not find any that size. I found 00-90. Was just wondering who you might have ordered them from?

Loren...
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Post by: Rail and Tie on March 29, 2019, 01:15:08 PM

Loren,


I have order from these guys before. A bit pricy  but nice stuff. I think it is the same place that Nelson gets his stuff too??


https://model-motorcars.myshopify.com/collections/small-parts-hardware/products/bolts-hex-head-brass-0-6-x-6-0-mm-k063




Darryl

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Post by: adm.nelson on March 29, 2019, 05:11:38 PM
Loren, Darryl is right, I get them from Model motorcars. 

Having said that, I ordered some .8mm recently too, both 1/4" and .2" and 1/2" long, with .8mm nuts. The .8mm x .200 came as the right screw, but the 1/4" and 1/2" lengths as well as the nuts, were 1.6mm. Way too big foe my use. I contacted them and said they would send some more. I had even sent them photos of what they sent. (oddly enough, the packet numbers were for the .8mm). So I received the replacement about a week or so later, but again, they sent the 1.6mm. Very frustrating. When I sent photos again, they still didn't seem to get it. I even asked if they would just take a look at their inventory, and see what they have, but I heard nothing from that. I eventually sent the lot back and got a refund, so I would be careful on ordering the .8mm ones, unless you get the .200" length ones.

Here are the pictures I sent in my emails, that clearly shows the wrong sized bolts. I don't think you'd have any problem with the other sizes, just for some reason it is the .8mm by 1/4 and 1/2" size. However, if you do happen to get an order of this size, you can send them back for a refund, but if you get the right size, let me know, I'll order some more.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on March 29, 2019, 05:25:45 PM
As Darryl says, they are a good company, and this is the first time I had any incident. They may be a bit pricey, but the only other place is a company in England I found. I might try them. I used to get them from Scale Hardware, then MM bought them out. I think SH had a larger variety, but I can't remember for sure. Still, don't let my one hick-up stop you.

https://prime-miniatures.co.uk/catalog/bolts-hex-head/brass

I also found this English company that has a wide variety of tools that might be of use to many since a lot of the tools are made for watchmakers:

https://www.eternaltools.com/

Tony Burgess
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Post by: fsmcollector67 on March 30, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
Tony,
Thanks...I will take into consideration the hassle you have had.

Loren...
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Post by: bparrish on March 30, 2019, 08:59:21 PM
Gents ....


Look up micro fasteners. I think they are in New Jersey.


I got a bunch of bolts and such whin I built the Falk locomotive some years ago.


They have a metrics section. 


https://www.microfasteners.co (https://www.microfasteners.com/)m/


They are great to deal with. 


See ya
Bob

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Post by: adm.nelson on March 30, 2019, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: bparrish on March 30, 2019, 08:59:21 PM
Gents ....


Look up micro fasteners. I think they are in New Jersey.


I got a bunch of bolts and such whin I built the Falk locomotive some years ago.


They have a metrics section. 


https://www.microfasteners.co (https://www.microfasteners.com/)m/


They are great to deal with. 


See ya
Bob
.                                                                                                                                                      I have bought from them and have some small screws for many situations. Unfortunately they don't go small enough for HO scale detailing, like what I have done here.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on March 31, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
I am very close to finishing this little puppy. A hook is all that's needed now. I constructed the top brace for the crane using 10-by stock. The end cap is of brass, brass wire and I think Grant Line turnbuckles. I have the wire (actually polyester cotton, it has no fuzz) running through the crane, but I couldn't find the hooks I needed. I know I have them somewhere, in the meantime, I have ordered some more off eBay, knowing full well that when they arrive, I will find the others.
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Post by: PRR Modeler on April 01, 2019, 10:24:18 AM
The detail work you do is truly amazing.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt loco and car Shed in HO, no prototype.
Post by: adm.nelson on April 01, 2019, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on April 01, 2019, 10:24:18 AM
The detail work you do is truly amazing.
.        Thank you Curt