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Title: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on December 31, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
I'd like to join in... a very 'Old School' wood kit. Nothing like Campbell. Always found them so suitable for railroad settings.


(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-311217161105-266392443.jpeg)

The original price sticker on this box said $14.98

Here's the contents

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-311217161106-26668943.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on December 31, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
I'll follow your adventure.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: S&S RR on December 31, 2017, 04:36:08 PM
I will also be following along.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: EricQuebec on December 31, 2017, 04:57:31 PM
I will follow too
Eric
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: donatode on December 31, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
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Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Polux on December 31, 2017, 08:20:13 PM
I have a Campbell kit on the stash. They look different as the Bar Mills....so I will be follow to see how it turns.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: GPdemayo on January 01, 2018, 09:20:05 AM
I'll be looking in also..... :)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: ReadingBob on January 01, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
I'll be watching too.  This will be like a flashback.  It's been over 30 years since I've tackled a Campbell kit.   :o
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: deemery on January 01, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs)  :-)

I love the Campbell designs, and the instructions are first-rate.  One hint, if the instructions don't mention it:  Cover the back of the wood with masking tape before you cut out the window/door openings.  This helps keep the (dried out) wood from splitting.

dave
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: bparrish on January 01, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
Dave....

My thing to do for splitting is prestain the wood and then stiffen it with super glue.  Usually not the whole panel panel but anywhere near a cut. 

I use your method if I'm doing an interior as the super glue is hard to hide. 

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: bparrish on January 01, 2018, 01:24:53 PM
Gents...

A million years ago Dyna Products (NY) offereda blacksmith kit that came with some super highly detailed tools. There must still be some of them out there. 

See ya
Bob
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Twopoint2 on January 01, 2018, 02:44:56 PM
I have this kit packed away so I will be watching this build.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 01, 2018, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 01, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs)  :-)

I love the Campbell designs, and the instructions are first-rate.  One hint, if the instructions don't mention it:  Cover the back of the wood with masking tape before you cut out the window/door openings.  This helps keep the (dried out) wood from splitting.

dave

Did that last night, pictures tomorrow...
In my younger days, I would have rushed thru these steps, and caused myself more problems. I am much older, and more patient now. Plus, it's amazing the difference a new blade in the knife makes when starting a new project.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 02, 2018, 02:06:06 PM
So the beginning steps.. get organized, examine the parts

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020118135852-267011967.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020118135852-267031151.jpeg)


Now look over the plans and start reading directions

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-311217161106-266691826.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 02, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Now I cut out the window openings and test the fit

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020118135852-267041806.jpeg)

then I did a light spray of primer to seal the BACK side of the walls

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020118135852-26705310.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on January 02, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
Rollin,

Good start. Like you, I also like the Campbell kits. Haven't build one in 30+ years but loved to open the box and smell the sugar pine used for making the structures.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Dave K. on January 03, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
I might be toward the younger end of the Forum spectrum...never had the pleasure of building a Campbell kit. Eagerly riding along. 👍🏻👍🏻
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Raymo on January 03, 2018, 09:22:36 AM
A nice old school kit. Thanks for joining the build.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 13, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
Time to catch up this thread. Last week, the weather and my work schedule were keeping me very busy. Cold enough, even if it is Florida, that I had to move plants off the porch, etc. etc.
Well, where was I...
I wanted to pre-stain my walls, and then do some painting. Got the walls ready, scribed some plank markings and nail holes.
Bought some new items, including what AK Interactive calls Track Wash. Tested it on some scrap, found it very dark out of the bottle, so after diluting with thinner, this is what it looked like on the walls.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111713-26987905.jpeg)

Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 13, 2018, 10:28:50 AM
Then I used Model Master Random Tan, dry brushing the walls. I'm going for worn and weathered, but not dilapidated. This building is still in use, not abandoned.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111713-269901509.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 13, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
While I was at it, I painted some of the strip wood and detail parts

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111713-26991618.jpeg)

Then glued the wall sections together

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111713-26992740.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 30, 2018, 11:00:42 AM
OK, guys, the rest of you have really been going to town on these builds...I'm enjoying the threads, but it's time to catch up myself..

Working on the walls - my next picture shows strip wood being added to the front and back walls,  also the corner posts

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111713-269931380.jpeg)

Anyone catch my mistake yet?

Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 30, 2018, 11:06:26 AM
Campbell has always used a unique method on the corners - the posts are like two 4x4's joined at the edge - serves as both the outside trim piece and an inside brace. Helps keep everything square.

So on the back side, these posts must be trimmed to match the slope of the roof

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111856-269951357.jpeg)

On the front wall, you have to shave down the side of the posts

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111856-269941958.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 30, 2018, 11:12:38 AM
Now to cut and glue bracing on the walls. The top edges will also support the roof. These are supplied in the kit, and I added some pieces from my scrap box on the bottoms

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-110118111857-269961170.jpeg)

I did the same on the side walls, just don't have a picture.

Also put in the window frames while the walls were still lying around flat.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on January 30, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
More work to be done on the front wall. Added the trim along the top edges, touching up the paint as I went along. Then glued on the sliding door, and the door track (painted aluminum)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-210118193426-277992236.jpeg)

Now I was at the point where I could assemble the walls

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-210118193426-278001971.jpeg)

It's starting to look like a building

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-210118193426-278012272.jpeg)

Here you can see the rest of the inside bracing. I also added the ridge pole, with some more scraps to strengthen the joint.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: postalkarl on January 30, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
Hey Rollin:

Just looked over you build. Wow a Campbell kit. Haven't built one of those in years. They have great instructions as I remember. Looks great so far.

Karl
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on February 24, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
When we last saw our intrepid hero, his girlfriend had been tied to the railroad tracks by the evil and dastardly ...

Oh - wrong story -

Still, I feel like this is a serial and I'm very slow with the next installment.

Anyway, I next cut up the roofing material into individual panels and started gluing them to the roof cards

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-210118193426-278022199.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on February 24, 2018, 11:53:30 AM
The instructions suggest a coat of Dullcoat before trying to paint or weather the roof, so I did that, then dry brushed with some Floquil Rust (Yes, I still have some Floquil lying around) and then did a wash with some grey acrylic.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218113731-30146512.jpeg)

Then the roof panels were attached to the building

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218113731-30148304.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on February 24, 2018, 12:01:32 PM
I'd also been doing the supports for the back shed, and had a lot of trouble. The subassembly wanted to fall apart, and just getting it to stand up for glueing was a problem. So I drilled small holes in the bottom of the posts and put some wire pins in them, then drilled matching holes where the building will sit on the layout.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218113731-301491394.jpeg)

This way, the support stood more rigidly while the glue set and so the shed roof was attached to the back of the building

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218113731-301502127.jpeg)

This picture was actually taken a little later, and we will backtrack and talk about the doors
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on February 24, 2018, 12:14:16 PM
Earlier, I asked if anyone had spotted my mistake on the walls, and I will assume y'all were too polite to mention it. I accidentally swapped a wall panel and a door panel, so the front door opening was too narrow. I hid this completely when I hung the front sliding door. I could have made a new door panel for the rear, but decided to try something different. I took the wall panel, split it in two, and added some trim. This gave me two doors which filled the rear opening, and I wanted to hinge them, rather than making a slider.

The experiment was to make some workable hinges, so I made a sandwich with a piece of aluminum foil and some fabric, glued with a flexible adhesive.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218114131-30155714.jpeg)

For the first door I cut 3 individual hinges, but for the second door I cut into my material and made the left side of 3 hinges all attached

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218114131-3015662.jpeg)

When this was glued to the door with CA, I cut out the other side and blackened the hinges

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218114131-3015733.jpeg)

They are definitely a little oversize for HO, but maybe my blacksmith made his own hinges?
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on February 24, 2018, 12:16:58 PM
I think the hung door looks pretty convincing

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-240218114131-30158891.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: postalkarl on February 24, 2018, 01:13:04 PM
Hey Rollin:

Looks like you're off to a good start. Will be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Lynnb on March 21, 2018, 01:27:36 AM
Your coming along nicely , how do you like the Campbell instructions?
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on April 02, 2018, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on March 21, 2018, 01:27:36 AM
Your coming along nicely , how do you like the Campbell instructions?
The Campbell instructions and accompanying drawings (both plan schematics and 3-d exploded views) have always been very clear. Years ago, when I started building kits, I would say that it was always my techniques that were at fault and not the instructions. I would try to rush and combine steps, or just try to do too much at one sitting. I had the kit for Grandma's House; it was a Christmas present from my wife, as I remember...
Well, that story would be a thread all on its own, but suffice to say that my shortcomings led me to set that kit aside, uncompleted, for a very long time.
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on April 02, 2018, 10:30:28 PM
I've go some more photos to show and I need to try and wrap up this build thread.

First, there are some areas where I've diverged from the kit instructions. For example, I just can't get enthused about making all those little tiny rafter tails and gluing them under the eaves where they can hardly be seen anyway. I did put some trim boards under the eave at the back side of the roof.

Also Campbell prints a sign that says Blacksmith which can be put on the front wall of the building. When placed on my layout, this side will NOT face front, so I may build a sign that will hang out from the building. Family lore has it that one of my wife's relatives actually had a blacksmith shop in Southern Ohio, and so some research is needed to see what might be a prototype for this project?
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on April 02, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
I did the chimney for the building, and added the smoke jack thru the roof. Then I started to position the building on the layout, with a dirt road coming up to the front, etc. It struck me that one of the biggest supplies a blacksmith would need is a pile of coal for the forge, so I decided that a storage bin would be appropriate. I built some walls with strip wood :

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020418221129-308911776.jpeg)

After painting, it assembled like this

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020418221129-309241158.jpeg)

That's a small piece of foam painted black in the middle
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on April 02, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
Still had extra corrugated sheeting from the kit, and used a piece of acetate for the roof since cardboard would be too thick

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020418221129-309251178.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Rollin on April 02, 2018, 10:42:00 PM
I had some figures which were appropriate and filled the bin with coal

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/714-020418221129-30926327.jpeg)
Title: Re: Build challenge 2018 - Campbell Blacksmith Shop
Post by: Jim Donovan on April 03, 2018, 06:25:44 PM
Rollin I really like the work you have done with this kit. Can you let me know how you cut the corrugated roofing and how easy it was to work with? I am working on a kit where I want to use this type of roof and have ordered the sheeting from Campbell. Yours looks like it came out looking great.