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Title: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 16, 2018, 10:47:53 AM
Hi Guys , after following along with postalkarls build I thought I may show some of my own build I'm working on.
As you can see I added a bit more bracing than required , not only to avoid the dreaded warpage from playing with the A/I and Rembrant chalks but also it helped for setting up the deck with the glue.
I work shift work so I tend to try to do a bit ( sometimes rushed ) and run off to work letting it setup overnite.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: GPdemayo on March 16, 2018, 10:56:23 AM
This will be fun looking in on two pile driver builds.....thanks for posting Lynn.  :)
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Janbouli on March 16, 2018, 11:24:17 AM
I'll be following both
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 16, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
Thanks guys, I hope I can keep you's entertained. ;D

Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 16, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
The barge is pretty much together.
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Post by: rpdylan on March 16, 2018, 07:50:21 PM
looking good! nice stain coloring on this section
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 16, 2018, 08:44:26 PM
Thanks Bob , the nice thing about using chalks is you can move the color around easy enough with a brush and alcohol.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 17, 2018, 07:48:03 AM
Hi Lynn:

glad to see you posting your build along with mine. I shall be following along. your barge looks great. Lynn I added even more bracing than you as I was having a warping problem. I think I solved it though.


Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 17, 2018, 02:42:05 PM
Thanks Karl I've really been enjoying working on this kit.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 17, 2018, 02:49:59 PM
Walls were given a coat of floquil grime and left overnite to set then used floquil depot olive ( I think ) and an old technique with  mix of thinner/ paint on the brush. I then copied the wall templates then realized I didn't need them for other than measuring the spacing for the interior framing. I realized afterward the interior would need some kind of color and seeing as plain wood wasn't going to work after getting some green where I didn't want it, I simply gave them a spray of khaki.
The big sliding door in the front just didn't make scence at all so made a couple swing out doors.

Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 17, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
Gotta love that Khaki paint! I use the Camo Khaki a lot.  As far as the sliding door, I guess if when the doors are open there is enough room to get around the building it would be ok.. it might limit the space for the assorted "stuff/castings" in front of the building because of the door swing.....just my thought.... also make sure that doors (when they swing open) won't hit the cable that comes down from the top of the pile driver tower... I know that when I built mine I increased the height of the cable opening above the door for extra clearance (the cable was up against the top of the opening when strung down to the motor).  when I built mine, I did not glue the building down to the decking until after I built the tower framework and pulled the "cable" string down to where the motor was going to sit
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 17, 2018, 06:37:20 PM
Thanks Bob for the tip, do you have a pic you can post of yours or a link to it?
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 18, 2018, 04:39:39 PM
I put the structure to the side for now as I'm not sold on the roof panel thickness.
I started on the derick.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 18, 2018, 06:31:22 PM
hey Lynn,  I will post some photos on the daily chat thread for today of my build.  I have not finished detailing it fully, but you can see the space that you end up with from the door opening to the start of the pile driver framework.  BTW, I used the roof card supplied with the kit, and IMO it is a good thickness.  The roof is made to be lifted off the structure to see the interior detail, so you do want it to be somewhat sturdy.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 18, 2018, 08:11:55 PM
Thanks Bob for the info on the roof, I had thought the entire building was to be lifted off. Couple things to think about now. Thanks and will check out your pile driver.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2018, 09:54:40 AM
Hey Lynn:

Looks like you are progressing right along with this guy. Looks great so far.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 19, 2018, 01:24:46 PM
Thanks Karl, I have a few days off no so I may be able to get some relax time in at the hobby table.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 19, 2018, 03:11:22 PM
Hey Lynn:

Sound good. keep the photos coming.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 19, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
Lynn,

I didn't realize that both you and Karl were building pile drivers.  Anyway, I'm caught up on your build now.  I'll echo previous comments, especially love the deck stain.  It really has that dirty used look. Looking forward to your continuing progress.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 19, 2018, 09:40:42 PM
Thanks Jerry, Karl's build actually inspired me to post the build, there doesn't seem to be many documented builds of this pile driver.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 20, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
Got kinda busy with real life stuff so didn't get real far but did get the derick glued together. Oh yes and found the small copper pipe and cut up for the roof exhausts, I'll give it a quick flat black primer and a lite coat of floquil grimy black and rust.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 20, 2018, 10:16:06 PM
Derick is done and in place, well just needs the cable.
I colored the cable with Grimy Black and Rust mixed.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Janbouli on March 21, 2018, 03:39:14 AM
Coming along great Lynn.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 21, 2018, 03:56:31 AM
looking great! You're going to love your finished model, I love mine, and people always comment on it,,,,,, ya just don't see kits like this anymore!
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 21, 2018, 10:25:08 AM
He Lynn:

The A frame looks great. Keep up the good work.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 21, 2018, 12:38:47 PM
Thanks guys for the encouragement, I've really been enjoying this kit.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 21, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
Made a bit more progress, I got the gears setup with the cables attached, took  a bit of measuring and adjusting to figure out where to place structure, boiler etc.
As you can see I chose not to use the cardstack for the roofing panel, and drew out the lines on the underside with 2' spacing not only for the rafter tails but also for the rafters and joyces. Yes I did get carried away but I get so much enjoyment with the wood stuff plus it adds to the weight of the entire kit. I'm going to attempt to peel the roof off the structure and rely solely on the rafters for a snug fit.
Oh yes and as you can see I received my new tool I had ordered along with the Jaxx, bigger is so much better.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 21, 2018, 09:04:10 PM
I got a bit more done tonight , I think I'm about ready to shingle . I don't think I will glue down the smoke stack pieces until I figure out what I'm going to do when I get up there with shingles.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Jerry on March 22, 2018, 12:01:32 AM
Lynn some great work there.

Jerry
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 22, 2018, 12:14:37 AM
nice wrk Lynn. just my 2 cents, if you shingle the roof then attach the stack piece, it will look like it's sitting on the shingles,, i know it's extra work, but in cases like this I glue the stack structure onto the roof and shingle up to the structure.   it's how it would be done in the real world and the structure would sit better on the roof
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 22, 2018, 10:10:41 PM
Point taken Bob, thanks
So I attached the boiler stack structure thingy and shingled the roof.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 22, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
Nice job Lynn! Those shingles will really pop when weathered,. Isn't this a great little kit?
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 23, 2018, 04:32:10 AM
Quote from: rpdylan on March 22, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
Nice job Lynn! Those shingles will really pop when weathered,. Isn't this a great little kit?
Thanks Bob , Sure is a nice kit.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 23, 2018, 05:20:30 AM
Hey Lynn:

Yeah she is looking good. You got the shingles nice and straight. Some lifting, A&I and dry-brushing will be really cool.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Jerry on March 23, 2018, 07:28:21 AM
Lynn shingles looking good.  Your doing a fine job.

Jerry
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: jerryrbeach on March 23, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
Lynn,

Wow, I don't visit for a couple days and you have done so much! 
Love the entire stack assembly, the derrick looks great, coloring is spot on.  Also, love the added rafters, and like everyone else said, nice job on the shingles. 
You are certainly doing George's offering proud!
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 23, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 23, 2018, 05:20:30 AM
Hey Lynn:

Yeah she is looking good. You got the shingles nice and straight. Some lifting, A&I and dry-brushing will be really cool.

Karl
Thanks Karl , I'm  thinking also floquil Earth on the roof .
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 23, 2018, 06:14:06 PM
Thanks Jerry, my days off are done until Wednesday so not much will be happening now until then.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 23, 2018, 07:27:19 PM
Hi Lynn:

Opps I forgot to mention the earth paint first. I also always do that. Sorry bout missing that step.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 23, 2018, 09:52:27 PM
Quite right Karl, to tell you truth I don't like painting the roof part, I'm a bit heavy handed with the paint and I often use the thinner along with the paint so when I see it is going on a bit heavy I thin it on the roof shingles.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Karl,

As usual, excellent job on another build. I'm enjoying the thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 24, 2018, 07:47:50 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Karl,

As usual, excellent job on another build. I'm enjoying the thread.

Tom  ;D
Hate when that happens ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 24, 2018, 12:44:55 PM
Hi Tom:

This is Lynn's build. I'm the other one.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 24, 2018, 03:05:21 PM
Hey Lynn:

Here is the photo I promised. Note where the front & rear bollards are placed. They are placed per the photos of the built model rather than the drawing. This is important especially for the rear bollard as the rope has to go around to the bollard on the rear of the deck. If placed as on the drawing the rope would hit the deck structure.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on March 24, 2018, 07:47:50 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Karl,

As usual, excellent job on another build. I'm enjoying the thread.

Tom  ;D
Hate when that happens ;D


My bad, your is just as good.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Lynn,

I hate it when that happens as well. Your build is excellent as well. Great job on the kit.

Tom 8)
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 24, 2018, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on March 24, 2018, 07:47:50 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 24, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Karl,

As usual, excellent job on another build. I'm enjoying the thread.

Tom  ;D
Hate when that happens ;D
Haha too late you're in the dog house. ;D


My bad, your is just as good.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 24, 2018, 03:53:24 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on March 24, 2018, 03:05:21 PM
Hey Lynn:

Here is the photo I promised. Note where the front & rear bollards are placed. They are placed per the photos of the built model rather than the drawing. This is important especially for the rear bollard as the rope has to go around to the bollard on the rear of the deck. If placed as on the drawing the rope would hit the deck structure.

Karl
Ok now I see what you mean, when I was running the rope I had noticed how the rope crossed the corner too far inward, I will have to fix that. Thanks again.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 24, 2018, 04:41:36 PM
Great modeling Karl.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 28, 2018, 06:04:46 PM
Ok this is as far as I've gotten, been working so very little progress. I ran short on the rope for the tire bumpers so had to improvise with a stop at fabric store and bought a spool of thread in what I thought was a newer looking thread color and once installed gave a drizzle of A/I. Always comments and suggestions welcome. Karl thanks for the tip on the rear bollard placements.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: ACL1504 on March 28, 2018, 06:16:02 PM
Lynn,

Looks fantastic, great job on the weathering.

I got it right this time.  8)

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 28, 2018, 08:16:42 PM
Thanks Tom, yep you got it right, your forgiven. ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Janbouli on March 28, 2018, 09:04:14 PM
Beautiful Lynn.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 29, 2018, 12:35:47 AM
Hi Lynn:

Looks just beautiful. Keep up the great modeling.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: rpdylan on March 29, 2018, 07:48:41 AM
nicely done! great colors,,,, time to "busy" it up with castings!
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 29, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Thanks guys for the nice comments. I still have to do the signs , derrick supports and a couple other things.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on March 30, 2018, 08:00:01 PM
Hey Lynn:

That is looking very cool. Love the colors and weathering.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 30, 2018, 08:54:48 PM
Thanks Karl,  can't  say I haven't been following your lead. ;)
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 31, 2018, 09:31:14 PM
Ok guys I think I'm pretty well done with the Pile driver, well other than I need some peeps. I took the advice and ordered up a basic Model Color kit by Vallejo. I did do some experimenting as I've never painted a figure before and made up a wet pallete and used some cheap acrylic paints. I'm posting some pics of the Piledriver on the work bench as well as some different angles on the wharf with other kits I built.
Please give me some honest feedback on both the Piledriver and the little figure I painted. For the figure from what I've been reading, learning here there is a technique I need to learn for creating shadows and depth.
OOPS looks like I will have to do the pics on the wharf in a seperate post.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on March 31, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
Piledriver on the wharf
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: sdrees on March 31, 2018, 09:41:46 PM
Hi Lynn,

The pile driver came out great.  Should be proud of it.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Janbouli on April 01, 2018, 06:53:05 AM
What Steve said, and I sure love the rest of the structures on your layout.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on April 01, 2018, 07:42:55 AM
Great job on the pile driver.  The colors and weathering are perfect.  The figure looks good as well.  You'll like working with the Vallejo paints, as you can use a thinner layer of paint and not lose the details.


Jeff
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: jerryrbeach on April 01, 2018, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on April 01, 2018, 07:42:55 AM
Great job on the pile driver.  The colors and weathering are perfect.  The figure looks good as well.  You'll like working with the Vallejo paints, as you can use a thinner layer of paint and not lose the details.


Jeff

What Jeff said!
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on April 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Thanks guys for the nice compliments, I need to now decide what is next.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on April 02, 2018, 04:04:27 PM
Hi Lynn:

Your pile driver looks just beautiful. I hope to finish mine shortly. Did you get thread for the pile driver in your kit?

If so mine is missing as all I got was the tan thread for the tire bumpers.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: deemery on April 02, 2018, 04:35:26 PM
The single biggest problem I've seen with people's figure painting is that the resulting figure is not -dead flat-.  Vallejo and Tamiya both make very good flat varnish/flat sealer.  It's worth applying that over your figure, even if your paints are flat.  (If nothing else, that will help protect the figure from damage when you're handling it.)


dave
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on April 02, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
Hi Dave:

My figures are flat. I use A&I & then dry brush them with light gray.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on April 02, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 02, 2018, 04:04:27 PM
Hi Lynn:

Your pile driver looks just beautiful. I hope to finish mine shortly. Did you get thread for the pile driver in your kit?

If so mine is missing as all I got was the tan thread for the tire bumpers.

Karl
Thanks for the nice compliment Karl, and for the help.
Yes I did receive both, but for the rope I somehow ran short and had to buy a spool of thicker thread, I now have enough rope or cable to do lots. ;D
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on April 02, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
Dave I used craftpaint for that little figure and seems to be non shiny, I will have to see how the vallejo looks  but thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on April 09, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
Hi Lynn:

When you add your guide ropes here's what I did. I used brass eyelet at the top of the A-Frame and on the back of the barge to thread the ropes through. These are not included with the kit.

Karl
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: Lynnb on April 10, 2018, 10:01:06 AM
Thanks Karl, I'll watch for them next time I'm in the hardware store.
Title: Re: FSM Pile Driver #105
Post by: postalkarl on April 10, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Hi Lynn:

My eyelets were made by Precision Scale Looks like #48278.

Karl