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Title: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 06:15:33 AM
Thought it would be a chore finding this info. Boom! First hit, from the folks at USPS itself.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on April 21, 2018, 08:35:49 AM
I don't remember a lot of red/white/blue mailboxes.  Of course my memory ain't what it used to be.  :o  I think the "storage" ones, the kind you couldn't put a letter into were olive drab much later than 1955.


Jeff
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: S&S RR on April 21, 2018, 08:42:55 AM
Interesting, I thought they were always blue. It looks like mine need to be olive drab for 1949.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 09:01:52 AM
I was planning on blue, too. Fortunately I've only painted a few.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: restocarp on April 21, 2018, 09:41:18 AM
This is great info. Thanks for sharing.

Matt
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 21, 2018, 09:53:33 AM
Hi All:

Worked at the PO for 30 some years. When I started all boxes were olive green  later collection boxes went to blue. Relay boxes remained olive green. Relay boxes were where walking carriers picked up their delivery mail around town as they didn't have vehicles and couldn't carry all that mail in their delivery sack.

Let me make a correction here. I started in 1974. The box color was changed to blue in 1971 as far as I can tell. The color change when the Post office Dept became The United States Postal Service. I do remember the green boxes when I was a kid.

The relay boxes I was talking about above had no mail slot. They were for official use only had A large locked door under the curved side of the box. You had to have A mailbox collection key to operate the lock. I would say they were olive green in color.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 10:36:29 AM
Thanks, Karl! Shoulda thought to ask you in the first place! 😜
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: S&S RR on April 21, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
Does anyone have a picture of the Olive green color that was used?
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
This look about right, Karl?
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 21, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
Hi Dave:

That's pretty close. I think Army olive drab would work.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
Thanks, Shorpy. And a "No Spitting" sign as a bonus.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
More image search results.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I kinda like the red and blue.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 02:44:18 PM
Ever work out of these, Karl?
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Janbouli on April 21, 2018, 03:10:40 PM
The  postal bulletin 19867 of 1955, with the red white and blue box

http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/pdf/vol76_issue19867_19550809.pdf (http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/pdf/vol76_issue19867_19550809.pdf)
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 21, 2018, 03:23:27 PM
Hi Dave:

The 2 large green boxes are relay boxes as I described above. I never saw A red and blue one when I worked. They were solid blue. Also never saw any of those type vehicles. I never saw a mailbox like the second one in top photo. Must be really old.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 21, 2018, 05:16:34 PM
Very cool info in the bulletin, Karl. I guess I'll need a Standard Form 33 before I start painting!
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 21, 2018, 08:46:15 PM
Hi Dave:

Yeah I started in 1974 so all the collection boxes were blue when I worked. As I said relay boxes were still olive green.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: S&S RR on April 21, 2018, 09:29:11 PM
Thank you for all the pictures and information. My mailboxes will be army green on the S&S RR.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 22, 2018, 08:13:29 AM
The four metal ones at the top are from Jill and Brian at BEST. No idea where the others came from.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 22, 2018, 10:17:50 AM
Hey Dave:

Nice mail boxes. I'll have to see what I have around.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Erieman on April 22, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Good Morning  Karl,


I guess some of us are old enough and our memory is still functioning properly to remember the olive drab mailboxes. since i model the 1940's, all my mailboxes are olive drab, or as close as I can get it. Mail boxes on many street corners were a fixture back East. I have several old metal boxes around the layout. I do not remember the manufacturer. I modified some of them to show the legs. Here are two pics: Chester Station with all four legs and Bikini Car Wash with the box having slab sides. Now that I see this, the box will be corrected and repainted. The bikini box is right up front of the layout. The devil is in the details.


Frank / Erieman
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 22, 2018, 11:14:26 AM
Great scenes, Frank...thanks so much!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 22, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
Hey Frank:

The mailboxes look just great.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: S&S RR on April 22, 2018, 07:13:31 PM
Frank




Great looking scenes and the right color mailboxes. I will never be able to look at another layout without seeing if the mail boxes are the right color for the time frame. Looking at some of the black and white pictures and a couple color earlier in this thread it looks like the old mail boxes were castings. Maybe even brass or bronze - is this true?
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 22, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
1937.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 23, 2018, 08:11:42 AM
Dave:

Very interesting. That mailbox has A padlock on it. Our had key slot for a collection key.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 23, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
Yep...one of the detail parts pictured earlier has a padlock. Don't know whose that is.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: bparrish on April 23, 2018, 11:07:29 AM
These boxes were all over the west side of Chicago when I grew up.  I have no idea if the regular carrier emptied them or if there was a route driver.

They had a paper on the front that listed pick up times.

see ya
Bob
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Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on April 23, 2018, 12:23:53 PM
I really like the red/blue color scheme, whether it's prototypical or not. It's quickly recognizable to visitors that it's a US Mail box, and adds a splash of color. Of course, rivet-counters would drag me over the coals, and I suppose it would be a detriment if ever entered a contest. Then again, I'm not modeling a specific era ... even use advertising signs that, while not obscenely far apart on the timeline, would still be frowned upon by some.  I guess the adage, "It's my railroad" would apply here.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: ReadingBob on April 23, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: Dave K. on April 23, 2018, 12:23:53 PM
I really like the red/blue color scheme, whether it's prototypical or not. It's quickly recognizable to visitors that it's a US Mail box, and adds a splash of color. Of course, rivet-counters would drag me over the coals, and I suppose it would be a detriment if ever entered a contest. Then again, I'm not modeling a specific era ... even use advertising signs that, while not obscenely far apart on the timeline, would still be frowned upon by some.  I guess the adage, "It's my railroad" would apply here.

Hear!  Hear! 

I always figured that when I do finally build a layout I'm going to model April 28th, 1957 at 2:24 p.m.  Give or take forty years.   ;)
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: jimmillho on April 23, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on April 23, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: Dave K. on April 23, 2018, 12:23:53 PM
I really like the red/blue color scheme, whether it's prototypical or not. It's quickly recognizable to visitors that it's a US Mail box, and adds a splash of color. Of course, rivet-counters would drag me over the coals, and I suppose it would be a detriment if ever entered a contest. Then again, I'm not modeling a specific era ... even use advertising signs that, while not obscenely far apart on the timeline, would still be frowned upon by some.  I guess the adage, "It's my railroad" would apply here.

Hear!  Hear! 

I always figured that when I do finally build a layout I'm going to model April 28th, 1957 at 2:24 p.m.  Give or take forty years.   ;)

I read that it rained pretty hard on that day and time. :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: postalkarl on April 23, 2018, 07:18:37 PM
Bob:

In answer to your question we had employees who just did collections. I used to do it on Sundays to get overtime.

Karl
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: Dave K. on May 14, 2018, 08:14:26 PM
Detail from a Shorpy pic, North Adams, MA 1908.
Title: Re: Mail Collection Box Colors
Post by: ACL1504 on May 15, 2018, 08:19:59 AM
Quote from: jimmillho on April 23, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on April 23, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: Dave K. on April 23, 2018, 12:23:53 PM
I really like the red/blue color scheme, whether it's prototypical or not. It's quickly recognizable to visitors that it's a US Mail box, and adds a splash of color. Of course, rivet-counters would drag me over the coals, and I suppose it would be a detriment if ever entered a contest. Then again, I'm not modeling a specific era ... even use advertising signs that, while not obscenely far apart on the timeline, would still be frowned upon by some.  I guess the adage, "It's my railroad" would apply here.

Hear!  Hear! 

I always figured that when I do finally build a layout I'm going to model April 28th, 1957 at 2:24 p.m.  Give or take forty years.   ;)

I read that it rained pretty hard on that day and time. :o :o :o

Jim


At that day and time Reading Bob was probably in Pennsylvania, so it could have been a late snow fall. Just saying.

Tom  ;D