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Title: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on December 20, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
I am almost done with building the kit and will soon start making diorama so I am thinking the best place for the thread is here in diorama section. I haven't figured the dimensions yet but I am sure what exactly I want to do. Here is where I am at right now.


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Vilius

Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: ACL1504 on December 21, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Villius,

The structure looks great. Great colors and weathering.

Tom
:)
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: GPdemayo on December 21, 2013, 08:43:03 AM
Very nice, love the signs!!!  :)
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: jerryrbeach on December 21, 2013, 11:05:23 AM
Vilius,
I like the lines of this structure, and your build is excellent, wouldn't expect anything less after seeing your work.  I'll be interested to see how your diorama turns out.
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: Dave K. on December 22, 2013, 07:15:38 AM
Nice work overall, Vilius, and especially good job on the big sign. No such thing as a bad FOS kit.
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: nextceo on December 22, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
Building looks great...I know you want more then just nice build...so if I had one comment, it would be about the roof. It looks like a new roof on an old building. If that's the look you were going for, then perfect. I like the vertical lines you use on the slat boards. What tool do you use to make them?

Thanks for sharing!
Alan

Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: tjseeley on December 22, 2013, 10:05:52 AM
I'll be following your progress closely!  I have only built a few small structures (2 little Campbell buildings & a Durango Press Handcar shed) so far, and will begin my first attempt at a diorama with those 3 small buildings as soon as I finish the handcar shed.....I know I'll be able to learn a lot from your work!
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: ranny9 on December 22, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
I'll be following Vilius, and TJ!
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on December 22, 2013, 02:08:18 PM
Thank you everyone for stopping by and leaving comments.

I agree with Alan. The roof looks too new. I make it look old as the last step and here is the reason why. I know I will leave glue marks when I attach chimney and other roof details. If I weather roof before it will be more difficult to cover up those glue spots. When roof isn't weathered all it takes is to paint them over. The same thing goes for the sidewalks.

Those vertical boards are strips of stripwood. What I do for the lines to stand out is I use black/brown oil wash which I use in place of A&I except the cases where I use solvent based paints.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: PHQRR on January 02, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
Really nice work!  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: rrkreitler on January 04, 2014, 11:08:51 PM
Vilius,

That is a great looking model. I really like your color choices and you did a great job on the big advertisement. I am really looking forward to see what you do with this. This is the last kit I purchased from FOS and will be doing an N scale version of it once I finish my wharf project.
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 06, 2014, 08:02:06 AM
Thank you Al and Dave. I haven't touched it since Christmas Eve. I have been derailed as far as modeling goes ever since :(. Hopefully I'll get on track in the next few days.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: Bntrainmaster on January 06, 2014, 02:55:16 PM
Afternoon Vilius,
Again, as usual, very nice work. I have to say the sign is my favorite part also. Thanks for sharing.
:) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8) :) 8)
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bparrish on January 13, 2014, 01:19:52 AM
Just great

Thanx
Bob
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 13, 2014, 08:29:43 AM
Bart and Bob,

Thank you. I have 80% built a shed for the diorama over the past several days. It isn't that don't have desire to do anything. I just don't have enough time. Hopefully I will be able to take some pictures tonight. Only if I don't get pulled over and get arrested on the way home for driving without license. I lost mine yesterday and service centers are closed today. I could possibly get one online but they are asking for information from my license that I lost. Ironic isn't it?

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 14, 2014, 09:45:24 AM
I was going to post pictures only after finishing the kit but since I am really slow at this point I am posting  few pictures of intermediate result. I still need to add roof access hatch and weather the roof. The little shed I am building for my diorama still needs rafters and to be weathered.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 17, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
Finally I had some workbench time this week. Not as much as I would have liked though. I weathered roof and was going to declare kit finished but while taking pictures I noticed that I forgot to weather the chimney. I need to add more roof details but I'll do it later after I figure out what details and figures I am going to use on diorama. Then I'll paint and finish them all at once.

One of the pictures shows my diorama base. I usually raise my structures by 1/16 so I have room for sculptamold and lightweight spackle. Since I have come up with this myself I don't know if  anyone else is doing that.

I'll need a tree for this project. I have both "Making Model Trees" books and would like to try making my own wire armature trees. However books mention that the process may take around 30 hours per tree. I don't have time for such luxury. Therefore, I am going to use  tree armature I bought on eBay from some Chinese trader. I used same one on Houligan's Alley diorama and was quite pleased with the result. This time though I will be using new material I have never used before. I'll tell about it when I get to making the tree. Now the armature needs to b e washed to remove any grease or mold release. Then branches have to be secured with epoxy. Finally whole armature needs to be spray painted and possibly drybrushed a little.
Stay tuned for updates... or not if you are not interested.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: barrymk on January 17, 2014, 01:59:52 PM
Great work Vilius, definitely interested in seeing how the tree turns out. Cheers Barry
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: John B on January 17, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Villius: 

Great job! 
Could you tell me what the 2 main colors are...thanks
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 17, 2014, 03:47:02 PM
Thank you, Barry and John.

The label is gone off of white paint bottle so I'll make my best guess here. I know it is Delta Ceramcoat for sure. After checking their pallet I am guessing it is Oyster White. The tan color is Polyscale Earth.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: NEMMRRC on January 23, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
I'd not considered raising structures on the diorama base as you showed. It should help get all the scenery down while the structures are off the base. I'll have to remember that.

Jaime
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 23, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
OPINION NEEDED!!!

I made these potholes but I am not sure if they aren't too deep. The pictures are really bad. Like always I was modeling up until last moment. Then I grabbed my cellphone and made few shots. I need to decide until tonight whenever to keep them or patch them up. Thanks.

Vilius

Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: ranny9 on January 23, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
They look just a little deep to me. Maybe if you feather them out a bit more?
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: PHQRR on January 24, 2014, 08:01:07 AM
Quote from: bilas68 on January 23, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
OPINION NEEDED!!!

I made these potholes but I am not sure if they aren't too deep. The pictures are really bad. Like always I was modeling up until last moment. Then I grabbed my cellphone and made few shots. I need to decide until tonight whenever to keep them or patch them up. Thanks.

Vilius

Look about right for a SE Michigan pothole!!
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 24, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: Randee on January 23, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
They look just a little deep to me. Maybe if you feather them out a bit more?

Thanks. Last night I put thin layer of spackle on top and re-scribed stones.

On another note. If anyone remember few months ago I posted pictures of Houligan's Alley diorama on mrrforums. I had several cardboard boxes on it. They came pre-printed on white cardstock.  I want few cardboard boxes on this diorama as well. I just don't like painting them. Therefore, yesterday I went on a hunt for cardstock in appropriate color. I came across some construction paper. I'll give it a try tonight. And I also bought a rim of newsstand paper. It is very thin and should be good for use as tarpaper. 500 sheets will be good for 10 lifetimes unless I find another application. I should try printing something on it. If it works I may use it for scale newspapers. The ones that come with the kits never have right color. What can simulate newspaper better than newspaper?  ::)

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 24, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: PHQRR on January 24, 2014, 08:01:07 AM

Look about right for a SE Michigan pothole!!

Al,

Thank you for the input.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 27, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
This is my tree making report. I started with plastic tree armature. The picture of it I have posted earlier. First I sprayed it over with gray primer, then brown and black paints. My brown was not flat but satin what gave my tree some sheen. I killed it off with two coats of Dulcote. Then I drybrushed the trunk with light gray to highlight bark texture. The picture below doesn't show much brown but in reality it is dark brown.

(https://modelersforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43.0;attach=1321;image) (http://modelersforum.com/dioramas/ideal-hosiery-diorama/?action=dlattach;attach=1320;image)

The new material I have mentioned in one of my earlier posts is crepe hair.

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I have never used polyfiber. The trees made with it look like moth balls. I have used fish tank filter material which I would tease out and spray paint gray then cut to about 1/4" pieces and place over tree armature. With crepe hair I was hoping fibers would fall apart which I could sprinkle over branches. It didn't go that way though. The fibers still wanted to stay together although I had about 25% of loose ones. Perhaps I should have straighten the hair first. I'll try that next time. To attach fiber to the branches I covered them with spray glue and then dragged hair clump over. I repeated dragging part several times until I was satisfied with the look of my tree.

(https://modelersforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43.0;attach=1325;image) (http://modelersforum.com/dioramas/ideal-hosiery-diorama/?action=dlattach;attach=1324;image)

I misted the tree with spray glue again. This time I sprinkled over static grass fibers.

(https://modelersforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43.0;attach=1327;image) (http://modelersforum.com/dioramas/ideal-hosiery-diorama/?action=dlattach;attach=1326;image)

After one more coat of spray glue I sprinkled over some Woodland Scenics turf.

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As a final step I sprayed my tree over with Dulcote to remove spray glue stickiness which if left untreated is very good dust trap.

Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on January 27, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
After I fixed the depth of the potholes I painted almost entire diorama with brown paint. I bought the paint to make "Goo" from Lou Sassi's book. The goo is very messy and I have used it on two occasions only.

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While paint dried I finished the shed.

(https://modelersforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43.0;attach=1333;image) (http://modelersforum.com/dioramas/ideal-hosiery-diorama/?action=dlattach;attach=1332;image)

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Finally I glued both structures in place using 5 minute epoxy. I don't want to mess with water based glues here since next step involves a little of water.

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Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on March 03, 2014, 10:31:29 AM
With Winter Olympics and other things in the way it has taken me a little longer to finish the project. It is quite a leap from my previous post so if anyone has any questions about happened in between don't hesitate to ask.
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bilas68 on March 03, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
Few more...
Vilius
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: postalkarl on May 16, 2014, 01:32:24 AM
Hi Villius:

Nice hosiery kit.

Karl
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: bparrish on May 16, 2014, 03:05:45 AM
Vilias...

Great photos................ thanx

But I'll ask again.......... Karl. What are you doing up at this hour?

Bob
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: postalkarl on May 16, 2014, 08:19:15 AM
Hi:

I like the diorama. Didn't see that when I posted.

Karl
Title: Re: Ideal Hosiery diorama
Post by: clevermod01 on August 26, 2014, 11:44:22 AM
Nice work. those are Chicago pot holes. Axel breakers.