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Title: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on March 26, 2020, 10:25:24 PM
So better late than never.............

I've had a coupla threads over the winter about building various stuff, vehicles and the paper interiors but I have not gotten on officially with the 2020 build.

I found a Bar Mills Shack pack so I am building them into a scrap yard.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260320222247-436591749.jpeg)

I started by scratching a bunch of fence in an area near the engine house and on the edge of Nampa.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260320222247-436601460.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260320222247-436612009.jpeg)

Then of course mission creep sets in and I have to build an access road and a bunch of grade crossings.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-260320222247-43662276.jpeg)



More tomorrow
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Opa George on March 27, 2020, 07:03:34 AM
I like it already!
--Opa George
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: postalkarl on March 27, 2020, 07:47:32 AM
I like it also. Can't wait for more.

Karl
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: GPdemayo on March 27, 2020, 08:45:16 AM
Looking forward to the Parrish touch on this one, I'll be looking in..... :)
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 27, 2020, 09:07:37 AM
You're off to a great start.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on March 28, 2020, 02:43:22 AM
So I got to some of the signs today.
Here is the story behind this.   I was involved with the building of a railroad with a friend of over thirty years.  I did the scenicing and a number of structures on his railroad.  We lost Mac something over two years ago.  I built a scrap yard on his railroad but we never discussed what the name of the yard would be.  Some time later I wrote a switching order for his railroad using the Ship It software and the name turned up.  I brought a jump drive to him and he printed out the switching orders.  He laughed uncontrollably when he saw it............ Mac's Scrap.  You just can't say that and hold the two words apart.   Precisely ! ! ! !

I couldn't resist the Purveyor part on my version of this scrap yard.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-280320023105-436631849.jpeg)


An additional sign

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-280320023105-436642268.jpeg)

More tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on March 31, 2020, 08:16:18 PM
I got back to the scrap yard today.

I had no idea that building the car on the tow hook could take three days of glue sets and waiting for paint.

First........ here is one of the yard shacks.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310320200350-437182166.jpeg)

Now to the car in the hook.   This is a REALLY early Jordan car.  Before 1963 they used aluminum foil for fenders.  This worked very well as when you crunch up the foil it stays.

The canopy is Kleenex with Floquil grimy black.   Model T Fords before 1912 were not only black.  What helps with the dating is that Fords 1915 and before had brass radiators and 1914 and earlier had the rear fenders go straight back once over the center line of the rear axle.  The first radius rear fenders was 1915.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310320200350-43726896.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310320200351-43727183.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-310320200351-437281459.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: PRR Modeler on March 31, 2020, 08:20:47 PM
Great looking vehicles.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: ReadingBob on March 31, 2020, 08:43:15 PM
That's really nice Bob.  All you need is a Dave Frary figure picking through the junk to complete the scene.   ;)

Those Jordan vehicles are a real challenge.  I ended up giving the rest of my stash, with one exception, to Tom (ACL1504).  I just couldn't see myself building any more of them.  Better him than me.   ::)  I'm sure one or two of the FSM kits I have on the shelf probably have one tucked away inside the box.  George included one in a few of his kits over the years.   :)   
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Opa George on April 01, 2020, 07:05:48 AM
The truck and Model T make a nice vignette--results well worth the effort!  I had to say the business name out loud to get the joke. Deep down, we're all 12-years old. Love it. Thanks for sharing!
--Opa George
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 01, 2020, 12:52:55 PM
George...

Thanx for the promotion ! ! !  All along I thought that I was only eleven years old.

Yes...... this has been a fun project.... I'm not done yet......

Thanx for looking in.

Bob
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Lynnb on April 01, 2020, 05:47:54 PM
I like it. You did a nice job , never enough fences with signs palstered on them .
Great looking truck.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 01, 2020, 06:23:20 PM
Lynn........... thanks for looking in.

I still have some way to go........ signs as  you observe.........

I'm working on a junk yard dog also........

see ya
Bob
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: ACL1504 on April 01, 2020, 06:38:34 PM
Bob,

Great job on the yard and I love the smashed up Model T.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on April 01, 2020, 07:31:14 PM
Looking great, especially the damaged car.

Jeff
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 02, 2020, 02:57:14 AM
So I got a bunch or bench time in today.   I'm getting close on finishing the scene and the build.  Only more clutter to add.

For now...... here are the latest photos.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420025136-437411597.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420025136-43740379.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420025136-437391421.jpeg)

So you must have a junk yard dog............ they have him chained up in an old C cab delivery wagon body.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420025136-437382050.jpeg)

Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Janbouli on April 02, 2020, 07:12:18 AM
Really nice addition to your layout , great scene.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: vinceg on April 02, 2020, 07:32:19 AM
Yep - very scrappy. Totally convincing. Looks very good, Bob.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Jim Donovan on April 02, 2020, 09:14:08 AM
Bob;

Just caught up. Really great scene and story, I think Mac would appreciate it, unless of course the Model T was his!. Can I ask what you did to make the railroad crossings for the dirt road? As you know I am modeling same time frame and like the look you have.

Jim D
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: fbernard65 on April 02, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
Looks terrific.  Great use of the Shack pack from Bar Mills.  Make sure to send pics to Artie. 

Frank
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 02, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
Thank you one and all...

Jim....... the roads are really simple.  I poured really thin plaster of Paris between the raised road beds at each crossing.  Letting it flow out and kick off slowly.   Then I used my standard dirt.

This will problematic for any in the east as our soil here sooooooo different.  Southwest Idaho is an ancient lake bottom...... part of the Bonneville.......... and with that comes a thick layer of highly compacted lake bottom sediments.  (locally called coleechee), Further, we are downhill from the later pushed up mountains.......... still going on if you recall we had a 6.5 just two days ago.............

That downhill activity brings some highly alkaline sediments and a lot of calcium.  Thus the soil had a light tan color.  Even at that when it gets "wet" with glue to hold it down it turns a bit darker.  In areas of the country with really dark soils this goes nearly black and yells really loud against all other scenicing materials.

What I look for is where the gophers have created a colony in the desert and churned up the hard layer of sedimentary layer which is lighter still.  What I end up with is a powder material that is nearly talc like and extremely light in weight and scales out well to HO.  Locals here call it alkali blow sand.  Yes it does just what it says.......... we get dirt storms in the spring when the weather changes and the wind kicks it up.


There is no paint on the plaster, just full strength white glue brushed on and the dirt thrown on after.  When dry I vacuum up what won't stick.  I don't worry about retrieving the loose as it is a short trip to the desert from here.  I usually get a five gallon bucket when I do go.   Just like when I go out harvesting sage brush for tree armatures...... when anyone sees you in the desert with a black herfty bag, they leave you alone as they think you are only gathering trash.  I don't carry a neon sign with me that says "crazy model railroader".

For the boards in the grade crossings........... I first put a short piece of code 70 rail on the inside of the spikes of the commercial flex track and glue it down with super glue. Then cram in 2x10 scale lumber and a few on the outside of the stock rails also as ramps.

The coloring is aniline dye.  I don't use A/I as it is too black.   I can't seem to get a good grey color from it.  The wood is glued down with yellow wood working glue.

There you have it.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420135835-437422169.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-020420135835-43743790.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: PRR Modeler on April 02, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
Very nice Bob.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: GPdemayo on April 02, 2020, 04:02:00 PM
Great scene Bob..... 8)
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Opa George on April 02, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
I love it. Nice scene.
--Opa George
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on April 02, 2020, 07:32:23 PM
The whole scene looks great, most likely due to the CB&Q reefer in the picture.   ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 02, 2020, 10:55:28 PM
Jeff....


Funny you should point that out.  That car and two others are really with similar markings early silver streak cars from my dads railroad in 1947. I had to refit them some years ago as the muselage and casine glues had failed.  They are my only exception post USRA 40 foot cars.


Thanx for looking in.


See ya
Bob
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Oldguy on April 03, 2020, 09:57:02 AM
Very nicely done.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: postalkarl on April 03, 2020, 04:04:32 PM
Hey Bob:

Wonderful job on this. The detail is incredible.

Karl
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Lynnb on April 06, 2020, 04:54:38 PM
The fence signs are a great addition, you have so much small details that I didn't see the first time around.
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: ACL1504 on April 06, 2020, 05:07:57 PM
Bob,

Nicely done.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: bparrish on April 06, 2020, 10:15:04 PM
If you look at the last photo posted you can see an old railroad right of way and the remnants of where the ties and ballast were.  This was a spur that went out of the east side of the engine house, thus there is a lot of RR related iron laying around.  The railroad sold this little triangle of ground as the locomotives being serviced in the shed were too large to be stored out that end of the service facility.

Mac's took the ground and the railroad footed the bill for the grade crossings to get to it.  Those did not exist before the scrap yard.

Curiously .... the railroad personnel watch the gate at that end of the scrap yard as they have a off site consignee for heavy cast iron detritus.  They watch to see that the gate is locked at the end of each day.   Small stuff is routinely sold by the pound to the scrap yard just to keep the engine house from filling up with useless stuff.  It's an interesting balance.

Overall the new scrap yard is operating barely in the black.   As long as the locals keep crashing cars they will be OK.  As cars and trucks take over the iron coming out of wagons will be a revenue source for a time.

see ya
Bob
Title: Re: 2020 build challenge Scrap yard
Post by: Opa George on April 07, 2020, 07:49:51 AM
Quote from: bparrish on April 06, 2020, 10:15:04 PM
If you look at the last photo posted you can see an old railroad right of way and the remnants of where the ties and ballast were.  This was a spur that went out of the east side of the engine house, thus there is a lot of RR related iron laying around.  The railroad sold this little triangle of ground as the locomotives being serviced in the shed were too large to be stored out that end of the service facility.

Mac's took the ground and the railroad footed the bill for the grade crossings to get to it.  Those did not exist before the scrap yard.

Curiously .... the railroad personnel watch the gate at that end of the scrap yard as they have a off site consignee for heavy cast iron detritus.  They watch to see that the gate is locked at the end of each day.   Small stuff is routinely sold by the pound to the scrap yard just to keep the engine house from filling up with useless stuff.  It's an interesting balance.

Overall the new scrap yard is operating barely in the black.   As long as the locals keep crashing cars they will be OK.  As cars and trucks take over the iron coming out of wagons will be a revenue source for a time.

see ya
Bob

I  always love a good back story. 
--Opa George