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Title: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 13, 2020, 05:26:24 PM
It's still nice and cool in my workshop , so I'll just keep building small structures for one of the towns on my layout.This is RSLaser's 1st Bank .
The contents.(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2FRSbank%2FRSbank-%281%29.jpg&hash=55da9765da783e98cf71e4788313c9a607a3d801)
Primed with gray primer from spray can.
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Several sprays later so that the paint gets into the mortar lines somewhat, the brick walls are definitely more detailed then those from the Monster kits.
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Decided on doing a different technique for the walls , using Faber Castell Albrecht Durer Water Color Pencils , these can also be used on plastic kits.
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Several color's later. I hold the pencils almost horizontally to only color the surface of the bricks.
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Then painted the lintels with Tamiya Medium Gray using a 3/0 synthetic brush , good quality so that even though it's very small it can pick up quite enough paint to do a lintel in one stroke.
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Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 13, 2020, 06:12:12 PM
Great start. I'll be following.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: cuse on May 14, 2020, 04:18:05 AM
Very interesting technique...looks great Jan


John
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 14, 2020, 04:54:42 AM
Thanks Curt and John , glad to have you along.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: ReadingBob on May 14, 2020, 07:19:54 AM
I'm following along as well Jan.  Interesting looking kit and interesting technique for coloring.  Thanks for sharing!  :)
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on May 14, 2020, 07:57:24 AM
Hey Jan:

The walls look just great. Glad to see you added mortar.

Karl
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: GPdemayo on May 14, 2020, 09:00:52 AM
Nice kit and great job on the brick.....I'll be looking in Jan.  :)
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 14, 2020, 11:42:16 AM
Thanks Bob , Karl, Greg , I made a major hiccup on the front wall , will show later , might be using this with the back towards the aisle, I'll see what you guys think .
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 14, 2020, 06:12:06 PM

Painted the base.
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Painted the sidewalk Poly Scale Concrete , and glued on the paper flooring.
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Inside wall painted Vallejo Mahogany , it doesn't shine like that in real life.
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Then used the template to spray on the sign , I sprayed very lightly at least 6 times  making sure it went on almost dry , but it still went wrong. This is when I started to peel off the template , it was sticky on one side.
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And this is what it looked like after cleaning it up a bit, not so happy camper here , don't know what I did wrong and what I could have done to prevent it from bleeding. Next time I'll try another paint type and do it with an airbrush. Maybe Rich could include a small piece of wall in the kits for trying out first.
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Well I gave it a wash of gray , I think the bricks even look better now , and I'll just say the sign was removed and they did a bad job on it , or I will add a canopy to hide it.
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Mahogany wall in place.
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And here's where I got into trouble again and don't know why , had to cut the piece with the booths and door , it would never have fit , maybe I turned the wall wrong side towards the front , but even then it would have been too wide, the piece in the middle cut out was a couple of mm's.
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Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 14, 2020, 06:53:12 PM
Looks great Jan.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 14, 2020, 09:05:42 PM
Thanks Curt , I'm glad the interior won't be that well seen , even if there's a LED light included in the kit.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Oldguy on May 14, 2020, 10:07:45 PM
Ah man, just when it was going so well.  But nice recovery.  I'm not a big fan of stencils, for that exact reason.  Did you try using a stiff stippling or stencil brush?  Could try it on plain paper.  But the centers of the A and a could be a problem.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 15, 2020, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on May 14, 2020, 10:07:45 PM
Ah man, just when it was going so well.  But nice recovery.  I'm not a big fan of stencils, for that exact reason.  Did you try using a stiff stippling or stencil brush?  Could try it on plain paper.  But the centers of the A and a could be a problem.
Thanks Bob , it's not too bad I guess.

Haven't tried stippling yet , might do that next time . The problem is that when you do it with real light spraying you have to do so many sprays ( because the wood brick sheet just absorbs so much ) that the template has to stay on way too long and because of the absorbance  the paint bleeds . Definitely going to try with an airbrush and better paint next time.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: deemery on May 15, 2020, 10:56:44 AM
Jan, I'm thinking your airbrush paint went on way too wet.  Try some experiments, changing (1) spray distance (move further away), (2) airbrush pressure (both more or less), (3) thicker paint


And if you do this experimentation, please report back the results!!



dave
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 15, 2020, 11:25:15 AM
I used a spray can this time Dave , from real far away so the paint would practically be dry when it hit the surface , but the bricks still absorbed the paint . This is exactly why I will do the next one with an airbrush , to have more control , and to use better paint.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: deemery on May 15, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
Ah, the problem is with the bricks absorbing the paint!  Do you have a good sealer, or even Dullcote, to spray and seal the bricks?


dave
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 15, 2020, 03:31:41 PM
I'm sure you used a few colorful words but you recovered nicely.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 15, 2020, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: deemery on May 15, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
Ah, the problem is with the bricks absorbing the paint!  Do you have a good sealer, or even Dullcote, to spray and seal the bricks?


dave
Haven't tried that yet , I actually thought the primer would seal it , but it doesn't.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 15, 2020, 06:39:20 PM
Thanks Curt, yep , did use some words I normally don't.  ;)
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 18, 2020, 05:57:04 PM

Stuck the door into place using a few bits of the peel and stick left over's.(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2FRSbank%2FRSbank-%2819%29.jpg&hash=b9042960570f433d2149c2b177e5421e206f0907)

Installed the back wall.
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Then stuck the outer wall to the inner wall.
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CA glued the LED to the ceiling
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Outer front wall stuck to peel and stick inner wall.
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Used 2 of my own chimney's , and weathered the roof.
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Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 18, 2020, 06:01:18 PM
Final photo's , although I do see some small mistakes that need tending to.
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Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 18, 2020, 06:45:57 PM
The brick coloring is amazing.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: ReadingBob on May 19, 2020, 07:10:28 AM
Really nice looking little structure Jan!  Well done.  Sorry to read that you had trouble with the stencil but what a nice recovery.  I ran into that on a recent build myself in HO with a clapboard wall.  It took me five tries until I was satisfied with the results.   ::)
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 19, 2020, 08:34:32 AM
Great looking building, Jan.  Nice job on the brick coloring.


Jeff
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: GPdemayo on May 19, 2020, 09:19:48 AM
Neat looking structure Jan.....great job, love the brick work.  8)
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: ACL1504 on May 19, 2020, 11:15:47 AM
Jan,

Nicely done on the build. Walls look good.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 19, 2020, 03:32:26 PM
Thank you all for the very much appreciated compliments , very encouraging. I will be adding an awning , should hide the bad spot and look good at the same time.
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: postalkarl on May 20, 2020, 12:34:29 AM
Hey jan:

Very well done. The brick work is very well done.

Karl
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 20, 2020, 11:56:02 AM
Jan,
Thanks for reminding me to go to the bank today...
Coloring of the bricks is well done.
Tommy
Title: Re: RS Laser 1st Bank in N-scale
Post by: Janbouli on May 20, 2020, 01:51:28 PM
Thanks Karl and Tommy , Tommy you're welcome  ;)