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Title: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 05, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
My Sawpit Store still needs a bar b q operation and I have trying to think on how to add one.  Since I am very poor on original thought, I needed a starting point.  There isn't much out there to get, so I continued to go through my kit cache.  Buried on the bottom was this little Timberline kit.  Back in the day it cost a whole $5.95.  So, let's see how this goes.

The instructions consist of a single page.  One front elevation and one side elevation.  That's it.  The numbers on the elevations refer to the construction step.  No list of materials, so I started, by reading though, making note of wood strip sizes, and their dimensions in decimal form.  All wood parts got a dip in A&I.

Wood parts have crude die cut marks for doors and windows.  The envelopes contain Campbell shingle strips.  I'll need to replace the one wall that has the bow window and door and make a new one to replace the window wall of the studio.

Strip wood needed a couple of passes through steel wool to remove splinters.  Roof cards were stained by the strip wood.  White areas were covered by a large piece of window acetate. 


They did provide material for a foundation, but this will be replace by RSLaser foundation sticks.

Buckle up.  This could be a rocky ride.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 05, 2020, 11:19:37 AM
I'll be following.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: madharry on October 05, 2020, 12:58:24 PM
Good luck Bob.

Mike :) :)
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 05, 2020, 07:36:47 PM
I will be watching and learning Bob....Dennis
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: WigWag Workshop on October 06, 2020, 06:45:02 PM
I'm Interested, looking forward to seeing this build come together.


-Steven
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 06, 2020, 08:33:37 PM
Well guys, I hope that I can continue to keep your attention.

I need to determine how the back annex (nee studio) can be modified.  I typically use a 5x8 note card on my magnetic gluing jig for drafting.  It has 90 degree corners, so it's perfect for this use as well.  Once I have drawn up something that should work, I can easily transfer the dimensions to the wood.  But first, I scrounge up some extra bits that  might be useful.  These include RSLaserkits foundation sticks, Rail Scale Models brick columns (for a chimney and porch piers), Monster Model Works brick sheet and corners, and clapboard siding scrap.

Next is to cut out the needed window and  door openings.  This 1/8" stock is tough so I drilled a series of holes so that I could use a chisel blade to cut out the openings.  What I use is a mini electric screwdriver to which I added a mini chuck. 


Eventually, I get all the pieces ready for paint.  The top row shows the house portion.  I did notice that the two side walls need to be swapped around.  The lower line is the annex.  It starts midway along the back wall, a short door section, the smoke box back, a window wall, the full end, and then the front wall section.  Only the two end pieces are kit originals. 


In reading through the instructions, I used a highlighter to note what wood sizes go where and what pieces needed to be painted.  I do separate all wood by size in old plastic parts bags, and in this case, note what step they are used and for what.  It was at this time where I found my first whoopsy.  They have a lower belt piece applied to the bottom of each wall.  Well, this is going to affect my foundation for the smoker which then affects the roof line.  And this piece is to be even with the back of each wall.  Would be easy as all get out, If I didn't have all that bracing in the way.  Sigh.   So, this points to the need to paint and assemble the walls before I do too much with the smoker.

And oh, I decided that Bubba was out and it will be Workman's Smokehouse after good ole Gnatshop.  I hope he is doing okay.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: GPdemayo on October 07, 2020, 08:45:18 AM
Neat looking structure Bob.....I'll be looking in.  :)
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: postalkarl on October 07, 2020, 02:27:43 PM
Hey Bob:

Walls look just great.

Karl
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 08, 2020, 09:48:41 PM
Thanks karl, But I'm going to have mess them up a bit.

With the store being yellow with white trim, I did this the same.  Banana Cream, which is rather bright, then toned down with Old Yeller weathering powder.  The castings were hit with Tamiya gray primer and then painted with Antique Parchment.

There is a bottom trim piece that is set even with the back.  It would have been a breeze, I I hadn't added the bracing earlier.  Most of these pieces were painted with the parchment.  Exceptions were the walls that will have a porch.  These were painted body yellow.  Here we are with windows and door added. 


While stuff was setting up, I went ahead and cut out the roof cards.  I do use my magnetic jg an awful lot.  Here I added a custom cut mat so I can cut material in place.  Knowing the corners are 90 degrees true, the jig serves as my drafting table as well.  I will be using the stock porch, but it needed some beefing up after bending the corners.  A bit of Elmers will stiffen the sides.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 08, 2020, 09:52:46 PM
The front porch roof was placed to ensure square corners and a piece of scrap card was cut to form a backer.  Basically to hold the shape  I'll need to make a porch ceiling  for the posts.

With additional glue run along the backer edges, the assembly was left to dry over night.  A weight was added to keep its shape.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: nycjeff on October 09, 2020, 01:05:31 AM
Hello Bob, I went back and read through your Sawpit Store build thread to see what your overall idea is for this structure grouping. It's not easy to get yellow looking good, but you've certainly done it. Your use of the weathering chalks is very good. Can't wait to see the finished complex.    Jeff
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: ReadingBob on October 09, 2020, 06:54:52 AM
Oh wow!  A golden oldie (like me).   ;D  That's a lot of kit for $5.95.  You're off to a great start Bob.  This should be a lot of fun!
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 09, 2020, 10:15:59 PM
Jeff and Bob thanks for the comments.  And Bob, you are correct.  A lot of kit for $6.  That' about $22 today. 


I got the porches done, per instructions.  Adding them is another matter.  I got the roofs cut out and braced like crazy.  Probably more wood than cardboard.  I needed to make a new roof for the addition as half of it was a "window".  I don't have a lot of cardboard scraps, as I hate cardboard.  The closest and toughest stuff I found was a Cheerios box.  I got it cut out and braced.  No photos of this boring construct.
The porch roof dried nicely and I decided t make a ceiling for it.  It will also help hold it's shape.  I'll just paint the sides white and shingle it.  Of course karma came by and bit me.  Seems the porch roof is too thick for the space between the front door/window and the upper floor window.   Sigh.  A little surgery and it should be good to go.

I finally got to the point of assembling the house.  I need to add some scrap 1/8" sticks along the jig sides as the window sis was interfering in getting a square building.

I didn't take a lot of photos.  I got lost with all the cutting and gluing.

I will be adding a standing seam metal roof to the house and corrugated metal roof for all others.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 10, 2020, 10:37:32 AM
Looking good Bob.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 10, 2020, 10:04:06 PM
Thanks Curt.

I spent most of my time working on the stone foundation, using RSlaserkit foundation sticks.  It was a matter of measuring (Mark 1 eyeball) and cutting the 45 degree angles.  Then using the first one as a template, cut a duplicate.  Glue both together.  Do this 4 times.  I decided to use two sections high so that I could use brick columns to support the porches.  I used two left over corner braces to keep the house square and did the same for these. 

Now that this assembly can be handled, I can get on to the annex foundation - concrete block.  As it comes out, it measures just slightly more than 3 blocks high.  Cutting the Monster Model works block sheet is tricky as I am cutting with the grain.  Which isn't always in my favor.
I also managed to add some fly rafters to the roof cards.  I needed to get these on before adding the tin.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: postalkarl on October 11, 2020, 03:31:28 AM
Hey Bob:

It's coming along nicely. Really like the yellow walls.

Karl
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 11, 2020, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on October 11, 2020, 03:31:28 AM
Hey Bob:

It's coming along nicely. Really like the yellow walls.

Karl
Yellow wood structures are a stretch for me.  I grew up in a white washed world where houses were distinguished by their shutters, roofing, and maybe window/door trim colors.  So, I am out of my comfort zone.  Too bad no one makes window shutters.  But then, seeing the number of different windows available, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.  That and a small market.

I managed to et the house foundation painted and glued on.  Then on to the annex foundation.  But first I need to make the annex.  I added a brace/spreader to keep the building the same width and then modified my brick work so I could add some glue bars across the back to get that section aligned.  This little section is made up of six wall sections.  With this complete, I was able to get it's foundation together and spray painted gray.



Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Janbouli on October 12, 2020, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on October 11, 2020, 10:05:51 PM

Too bad no one makes window shutters. 
Rich from RSLaser makes them in N-scale , pretty sure he could make them in H0 as well. http://www.rslaserkits.com/Window-Shutters-for-the-N-scale-Tichy-2508-66-windowsew-Product--Please-enter-name-here_p_4186.html (http://www.rslaserkits.com/Window-Shutters-for-the-N-scale-Tichy-2508-66-windowsew-Product--Please-enter-name-here_p_4186.html)
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 12, 2020, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on October 12, 2020, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on October 11, 2020, 10:05:51 PM

Too bad no one makes window shutters. 
Rich from RSLaser makes them in N-scale , pretty sure he could make them in H0 as well. http://www.rslaserkits.com/Window-Shutters-for-the-N-scale-Tichy-2508-66-windowsew-Product--Please-enter-name-here_p_4186.html (http://www.rslaserkits.com/Window-Shutters-for-the-N-scale-Tichy-2508-66-windowsew-Product--Please-enter-name-here_p_4186.html)

Hmm, I wonder if the rails and stiles could be cit to needed length and basically the same for the slats?
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 12, 2020, 08:50:07 PM
I got the HCB foundation glued to the annex and spent some amount of time on the roofing.  I was concerned about the porch roof but it wasn't all that bad getting the peak flashing cut and formed.  The porch preety much came out as I had hoped.  Brick supports and plain supports.

Eventually I got around getting the annex glued to the house.  The roofing panels are just placed for effect and not glued down.  I almost forgot about the house chimney as it needed roofing cut away from it.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 12, 2020, 09:11:55 PM
Very nice Bob. The basic house without the extension would work well for a mining town.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: WigWag Workshop on October 13, 2020, 06:53:39 AM
Looking great Bob! The build is inspiring me to start my Sea Port Models Farm House kit.


-Steven
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on October 15, 2020, 11:45:42 AM
Bob,
Your bringing this blast from the past to life...
Tommy
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 16, 2020, 09:21:53 PM
So here I am, one step forward and two steps back.   I measured and installed four brick piers for the annex.  Welp.  One wound up right in front of the door, which meant that a support post would be right in front of the door.  No good.  The main question is - "How in the heck did I not catch that mistook."  So I removed the three inner piers and then added back two.


Then I got looking at the roof over the porch,  I wanted to have the porch roof deck go partway up the annex roof deck and then cover in tin.  But Nooooo.  I made the annex roof deck, added the tin, and then installed it.  And installed it crooked.   Okay. I managed to cut away the offending adhesive and at least get the roof decking straight. This time I added a stop to keep the deck from sliding down again.  And I do have the height to slip the porch roof under the annex roof.  But, I'll need to add the rafters.   No biggie.  Then on to add the the porch supports.


Now it was time to add the peak tin.  For the house, I just cut so that the bulge was flanked by material and made a cut.  It seems that the mid-point was 3 N-Scale feet.  Go figure.   For the annex, it was a simple matter of cutting the corrugated tin into 2 foot squares and then bending them in the middle.  I used a piece of NG Ribbon Rail, added tape a foot from the edge and do a slight bend.  Sorry about the lousy photos.  I need to play with the settings again.

Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 17, 2020, 08:56:19 AM
I like the metal roofing Bob.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Oldguy on October 17, 2020, 08:34:41 PM
Curt, thank.  They came out fairly decent.

I tried to use just weathering powders, but they don't cover any shiny spots.  For the house I hit each side with burnt umber and then, while wet, dabbed on light rust powder.  Let stand and then brush off excess.  For the annex, I used full width sheets, so I made up a stencil about 22 scale inches wide and short 4 inches on the height.  Again, used the burnt umber followed bu light rust powder.  Followed all up with the tar waterproofing as necessary and then added the chimneys.  The house chimney had to be assembled from 4 plastic brick sides and a plastic chimney cap.  The smoker chimney was a brick pier stick with a hile drilled in the top. 


I noticed some sloppy paint on the house front eave, that'll need to be cleaned up.  I went to see about installing it on the Sawpit board, but of course, this is too big and was mounted on it's own board.  I'm a bit sad that I didn't build it as a photographer's house and studio, although parts if it would still need to be improved. 


So, on the next big adventure.  I need to do something that will hold my hand through the build and fairly simple.  I really need a small family compound so . . . .
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on October 18, 2020, 07:29:14 AM
Nice build, Bob.  I really like the colors.

Jeff
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 18, 2020, 08:50:02 AM
Very nice roof coloration.  It goes well with the walls.
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Dennis Bourey on October 18, 2020, 08:59:37 AM
Very well done Bob......Dennis
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: Jim Donovan on October 18, 2020, 09:20:46 AM
Really came out well. I like the color scheme, fits great.


Jim D
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: GPdemayo on October 18, 2020, 09:43:56 AM
Great job Bob..... 8)
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: nycjeff on October 18, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
Hello Bob, great job on the yellow walls and weathered metal roof. Nice build.    Jeff
Title: Re: Timberline Models Photograpers Studio & Home kitbash
Post by: S&S RR on October 18, 2020, 08:06:18 PM
Bob


Really nice work.