So here is the 5 dollar O scale kit I found at a show in Evansville, In. It is a Saloon soon to be renamed juke joint. Not sure where this will go but follow along. The windows appear to be pre Grandt Line era plastic.
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Howdy Philip, looks like a fun build. That is really a cheap drunk deal. Have fun, mike
Quote from: friscomike on February 08, 2025, 02:28:09 PMHowdy Philip, looks like a fun build. That is really a cheap drunk deal. Have fun, mike
Yeah it is. If only I could drink. Blood thinners ya know.
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The windows and spec sheet from R.C.Beaumont. All the wood is present but the door is missing. Looks like some 3d printed stuff on the horizon. I just love these old kits. Nothing is precise like laser cut kits. I'm now entering the twilight zone. I will start by dunking the wood pieces in stain.
Oh great laser cut saloon doors and 3 hinges. Early laser cut therapy. Die stamped hinges?
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Great chance to do some kitbashing Philip.
Philip,
Interesting kit and I'm sure you will do a great job. Looking forward to what you do with the missing parts and the 3D aspect.
Tom
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 08, 2025, 03:00:54 PMGreat chance to do some kitbashing Philip.
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 08, 2025, 03:49:25 PMPhilip,
A very primitive kit for sure Curt.
Interesting kit and I'm sure you will do a great job. Looking forward to what you do with the missing parts and the 3D aspect.
Tom
TY Tom, The plan so far is to 3d print all exterior windows and saloon door. Add a deck to the 2d floor and perhaps side it with weathered tin. I like board (barn) construction but these stamped siding sheets just don't give a draftee look. The front walk is decked in an unconventional way and needs a redo. I'm still imagineering this one.
Philip looks like a fun project; I'll be following along for sure.
Philip, nice to find a kit with that kind of price tag.
Looks like you've got a good plan on how to construct it.
Good looking structure Philip, I'll be looking in..... :)
Howdy Philip, I agree with the die-cut thought, just like old model plane kits. I'm looking forward to your 3D supplement. Have fun, mike
Philip looking forward to the build.
Jerry
Thanks for the encouragement Larry, Rick, Greg, and Mike.
Changing course and scribing in wood grain and joints plus adding nail holes. I started on the back wall and it looks a lot older now. Still trying to de-fuzz the back side with a folded 600 sandpaper, a red Scotch-bright pad. I'm on the fence about dunking the plywood in water based stain. I may just add washes of paint.
Have a great Sunday!
Philip
That old saying "Too poor to paint and too proud to white wash"
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Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 08, 2025, 03:00:54 PMGreat chance to do some kitbashing Philip.
Indeed Curt thanks, Almost missed ya!
Quote from: Jerry on February 09, 2025, 09:54:42 AMPhilip looking forward to the build.
Jerry
Thanks Jerry!
"Still trying to de-fuzz the back side with a folded 600 sandpaper" ;D
I'd be careful doing that. ;D
Quote from: Rick on February 09, 2025, 10:23:15 AM"Still trying to de-fuzz the back side with a folded 600 sandpaper" ;D
I'd be careful doing that. ;D
80 works better.
Making a bit of progress on this old kit. All the wood is weathered and this pattern shown below is going on the printer in a moment. I ended up staining all the wood after testing a few pieces instead of painting.
Showing inside and out with duplicate prints. They may work. The mullions look a bit large.........
Quote from: Philip on February 11, 2025, 04:02:09 PMMaking a bit of progress on this old kit. All the wood is weathered and this pattern shown below is going on the printer in a moment. I ended up staining all the wood after testing a few pieces instead of painting.
Showing inside and out with duplicate prints. They may work. The mullions look a bit large.........
Maybe just a tad on the Mullins but it depends how "fussy" you want to get.
Philip, hope the print goes well.
Looking forward to the print.
Jerry
I have version 4 on the printer. 1st one was top right with trim applied
2d version are with movable 6 lite panes
3rd set was a disaster.
Rough and warped.
More later.
Those saloon door hinges might be diecast dollhouse furniture hardware. For a dollhouse-scale baker's cabinet, for example. Because I remember walking in to a broad-spectrum hobby shop in Ottawa, years ago, that catered to plastic modellers, model railroaders, radio-controlled aircraft kamikazes, and dollhouse modellers. Which I hadn't known was a Thing. They had stuff in the dollhouse display cabinet that I hadn't imagined existed.
Quote from: Mr. Critter on February 12, 2025, 05:52:36 PMThose saloon door hinges might be diecast dollhouse furniture hardware. For a dollhouse-scale baker's cabinet, for example. Because I remember walking in to a broad-spectrum hobby shop in Ottawa, years ago, that catered to plastic modellers, model railroaders, radio-controlled aircraft kamikazes, and dollhouse modellers. Which I hadn't known was a Thing. They had stuff in the dollhouse display cabinet that I hadn't imagined existed.
Very interesting. I'll take a look around. Thank you!
First version looks pretty good.
You didn't like it?
Philip keep at it; you'll get it the way you want it.
QuoteQuote from: Rick on February 12, 2025, 08:16:03 PMFirst version looks pretty good.
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No. Rick it was oriented wrong in my eyes and ruining the detail. If you look closely the muntins have a distorted look. It is called 3d elephants foot caused by overexposing the first few layers. They are not at true right angles were they intersect.
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Quote from: Larry C on February 12, 2025, 08:40:53 PMPhilip keep at it; you'll get it the way you want it.
That is the plan Larry, plus I want the sashes to slide to pose a scene. What self respecting house of blues doesn't have operating windows? Tricks ya know!
I changed the orientation as shown in the photos. Frame / Sash
Philip,
The 3D printing looks good. You'll know when the part is right.
Tom
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 13, 2025, 01:58:38 PMPhilip,
The 3D printing looks good. You'll know when the part is right.
Tom
k9
Thanks Tom! Was about to give up..
Finally have some good prints. They are sitting in the rough openings not nailed or level. I trimmed them with 2x6's, a bit heavy but close enough. The top sash is fixed and the bottom slides in the track. The saloon had a swinging door included with the kit that was discarded. I'll come up with something.
They look pretty good to me Philip!
Jerry
Philip, I'm glad you got prints that you're happy with.
Waiting to see now what you come up with for the swinging door.
Howdy Philip,
You have been busy! Nice work on the windows. They look terrific in the structure.
Have fun,
mike
Thank Jerry, Rick, and Mike!
Rick I'm thinking some sort of french type double door.
Philip
Philip those windows look great!!!!! Nice job.
Quote from: Larry C on February 21, 2025, 01:20:34 PMPhilip those windows look great!!!!! Nice job.
Thanks! I have the floor down, 3 walls up and the second story floor joist are in. Needs decked, Oops and the saloon door is done but need a floor in order to proceed. Fresh outta jamb saw for the trim. See demo.
Philip,
The windows turned out great and look like a natural fit to the structure. Well done.
Tom
Thank you Tom!
Added the floors inside. Eleven foot ceilings! Added the porch floor, door jambs and saloon doors. All the frames were painted with ivory followed by a wash of alcohol, india ink, and engine black. The plan is to add piers (brick) to get it off the ground. The porch roof is next.....may lean to or pitch. LEDs, roof trim and other details will follow. Comments and suggestion needed. Thanks for bearing with my molasses updates!
Philip
Oh and dont ever think of robbing the cold beers! ;D
I won't touch the beer I promise!!
Nice update those windows are really nicely weathered.
Jerry
The build is coming together nicely. As Jerry said very good weathering on the window frames.
Philip, nice work on the windows and swing doors.
I'll make sure to bring my wallet.
Just cruised thru the build, nice project and recovery of shaky parts. Si'
Thanks for looking K-9, Rick, Curt, & Jerry!
First 2 rounds are free Rick! Cheers!
It's been a fun project modernizing this mess of a kit from 1960's.
Philip
Howdy Philip,
Nice work on the structure. It is coming together nicely.
Have fun,
mike
Quote from: friscomike on February 24, 2025, 12:30:30 PMHowdy
Howdy back. Called my script in, will be ready tomorrow after 11 am! Hopefully the gold won't be undergoing inspection :o
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Very nice looking with your added details. Looks like the guard has knocked back
a few too many bruskies himself.
Quote from: Larry C on February 24, 2025, 06:20:34 PMVery nice looking with your added details. Looks like the guard has knocked back
a few too many bruskies himself.
That Lug could drink a barrel! lol thanks!
Windows are installed. I also printed a bunch of brick piers. They are simple and no texture. I sanded a few lightly with 150 to give them a bit of texture. A heap to go followed by paint. The experiment will continue tomorrow.
Philip
Those piers look great! It'll be a nice added detail to your build.
Philip, piers look good and will be a good addition to your portfolio.
Nice brick work!!
Jerry
Nice masonry!
Philip,
What they all said above. I agree.
Tom
Thanks Larry, Rick, Jerry, Mike, and Tom!
Philip, the piers will add a lot of character to the structure. Nice work. Have fun, mike
Thank ya Mike!
Porch is up and leds wired into copper ties? Forgot the name? 5 led's seem extreme? 9 volt power is the plan.
Somebody set me straight on OHMS law. Thanks for looking!
Philip, nice getting the lights on.
Maybe paint them a shade of yellow.
What happened to the guard? 8)
Thanks! They are LED bright! Fresh outta yellow. What brand will tone down that blue hue?
He slipped off to terrorize the countryside! ;)
Phillip-that's quite the 'hot-spot'.....think I'll pop on over and have a brew.......
KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry.
Thank Kyle! Cheers!
Quote from: Philip on March 04, 2025, 07:43:20 PMThanks! They are LED bright! Fresh outta yellow. What brand will tone down that blue hue?
He slipped off to terrorize the countryside! ;)
Philip,
I've used thinned Tamiya Clear Yellow to soften the brightness of the LEDs.
Tom
Quote from: ACL1504 on March 05, 2025, 10:46:03 AMQuote from: Philip on March 04, 2025, 07:43:20 PMThanks! They are LED bright! Fresh outta yellow. What brand will tone down that blue hue?
He slipped off to terrorize the countryside! ;)
Philip,
I've used thinned Tamiya Clear Yellow to soften the brightness of the LEDs.
Tom
Tom, I have plenty of bulbs to experiment on. Thanks! These blue hue bulbs were listed as warm white. Kinda overpowering lumes in brightness and color. BTW, I made a jig for O scale goose neck bends out of old train wheels. i post a photo later.
Looking real good Philip and the lights add another layer as well.
Quote from: Larry C on March 07, 2025, 03:15:39 PMLooking real good Philip and the lights add another layer as well.
Yep! I'm redoing my entire layout once this lil project is done. Better late than never is the old adage.
Thanks for looking in Larry!
Quote from: Philip on March 07, 2025, 05:53:51 PMYep! I'm redoing my entire layout once this lil project is done. Better late than never is the old adage.
Thanks for looking in Larry!
Been there, done that. That'll keep you out of mischief for awhile.
Trim is on and shingles are being applied. Also shown are the handmade lights. As Tom mentioned thread the wires before bending. The jigs are shown and made from HO drivers screwed to hardwood. I use K&S 3/32 OD brass tube. The shades are 3d printed on my home printer.
Philip
Quote from: Larry C on March 07, 2025, 06:08:58 PMQuote from: Philip on March 07, 2025, 05:53:51 PMYep! I'm redoing my entire layout once this lil project is done. Better late than never is the old adage.
Thanks for looking in Larry!
Been there, done that. That'll keep you out of mischief for awhile.
You think? Won't be long and Gena will put me behind that row tiller. :)
Philip, nice progress and it's looking very good.
Quote from: Rick on March 07, 2025, 07:33:39 PMPhilip, nice progress and it's looking very good.
Thanks Rick!
Great looking progress.
Philip, nice work on the structure. The individually applied shingles look great. Excellent work on the goose neck lights. Cool jig, too. Have fun, mike
Great work Philip.
Jerry
Thanks Curt, Mike, and Jerry! Sorry I didn't see your comments.
I finished the roof last night. Nothing in photos yet. Tonight perhaps.
Philip
A quick update. High and dry.
Philip, never been to Evansville, IN for swap meets, but have gone to the towns of Fort Wayne, Indianapolis and Terra Haute for RR shows and conventions when we lived in the Midwest. Will follow your build ... Tommy
Hi Tommy,
I usually visit the narrow gauge shows south of Indy along 65. Narrow Gauge activity has been sparse in this area since covid 19 passed through. I just can't stand travelling for long distances.
Daniel Banks has sponsored a few NG shows recently but I missed them as he didn't put the word out.
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