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Title: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 06, 2025, 08:42:49 AM
Built these two early last year; used Southern 36' kit and ordered additional sides and 40' roofs to make the 40' versions.  165906 is the 36' car.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: deemery on March 06, 2025, 08:52:21 AM
A Westerfield kitbash!  Cool!  Don't think I've seen one of those written up before.  Good work!  

dave
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 06, 2025, 09:08:16 AM
Biggest challenge was getting the double sheathed resin sides to match up so the joints were hidden.  The GM&O boxcars (formerly M&O) lasted until the early 1960's. The Southern 40' cars were originally double door automotive boxcars that the road modified into single door cars.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: friscomike on March 06, 2025, 09:08:25 AM
Howdy Charlie, nice work.  mike
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 09:23:17 AM
When I started hanging around the tracks, a lot of boxcars still had roofwalks.  But I never saw any new enough to show creosote on the planks.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 06, 2025, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 09:23:17 AMWhen I started hanging around the tracks, a lot of boxcars still had roofwalks.  But I never saw any new enough to show creosote on the planks.

It's to resemble unpainted wood; roofwalks were left unfinished so they weren't slippery in rain and snow. Only exceptions I know of are ATSF, SP and UP added sand to wet paint on the roofwalks
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 06, 2025, 11:22:38 AM
Here's some examples I use when painting wood roofwalks.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 01:40:29 PM
The boxcar on its side uses 3 short boards between each support.  Another uses long boards staggered.  And one uses parallel joints but a mix of long and short boards.  What I recall from taking unnecessary risks as a teen was the long boards staggered.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: deemery on March 06, 2025, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 01:40:29 PMThe boxcar on its side uses 3 short boards between each support.  Another uses long boards staggered.  And one uses parallel joints but a mix of long and short boards.  What I recall from taking unnecessary risks as a teen was the long boards staggered.
Of course, that set of photos show's "There's a prototype for everything".  ("Long board staggered" makes the most sense to me.)

dave
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 06, 2025, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 01:40:29 PMThe boxcar on its side uses 3 short boards between each support.  Another uses long boards staggered.  And one uses parallel joints but a mix of long and short boards.  What I recall from taking unnecessary risks as a teen was the long boards staggered.
Little bit of research I've uncovered is the NYC and Wabash both used the short board roofwalks- at least on their rebuilt boxcars in the late 1930's. What I found interesting on the overturned boxcar is the car cement pealing off.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: jbvb on March 06, 2025, 08:17:29 PM
I don't recall seeing anyone else pay this much attention to roofwalks.  I don't recall any paint on those i trespassed on, but I had no idea that was the plan.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: deemery on March 07, 2025, 09:08:42 AM
Back in the 19th century, there was a debate on painting roofwalks.  The argument against paint was "too slippery", the argument for was "lasts longer."  I think in a lot of cases sand was mixed in with the paint to help provide traction.

dave
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: Philip on March 07, 2025, 10:27:14 AM
Some nice examples.
Title: Re: Westerfield kit bashes Southern & GM&O 40’ Truss Rod boxcars
Post by: cduckworth on March 08, 2025, 08:46:30 AM
Here's the prototype information and GA drawings on the models