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Title: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: cduckworth on March 12, 2025, 09:37:19 PM
Shot in the Mopac yards around WW2. Closest shanty is the Carmen as you can see the metal blue flags the second I assume is a switchmen shanty.  Interesting how the company coal is piled up between the two.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: cduckworth on March 12, 2025, 10:14:04 PM
Here's the 'full' image.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: ACL1504 on March 13, 2025, 07:45:13 AM
Charlie,

Neat scene and great detail for any yard. 

Thanks for sharing.

Tom 
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: IWannaRetire on March 13, 2025, 09:01:55 AM
Nice photos, Charlie.

Looks like the far shanty walls might be covered by those old asphalt fake brick siding sheets.  Similar in manufacture to a roofing shingle, but meant to be applied to walls and resemble bricks or stone.  I saw it a lot in the '50s growing up.

https://inspectapedia.com/exterior/Asphalt_Siding_Guide.php

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: jbvb on March 13, 2025, 11:38:27 AM
I agree with you, Mark.  Clever Models offers print-yourself Insulbrick in several colorings.  Their pattern repeats, so when I get around to using it on a 40 scale-foot long building, I will probably cut it into smaller strips.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: cduckworth on March 14, 2025, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: IWannaRetire on March 13, 2025, 09:01:55 AMNice photos, Charlie.

Looks like the far shanty walls might be covered by those old asphalt fake brick siding sheets.  Similar in manufacture to a roofing shingle, but meant to be applied to walls and resemble bricks or stone.  I saw it a lot in the '50s growing up.

https://inspectapedia.com/exterior/Asphalt_Siding_Guide.php

Thanks for posting.

Mopac never used the asphalt sheets; the siding is what the industry called 105 wood drop siding used on their depots and other structures.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: IWannaRetire on March 14, 2025, 09:47:51 AM
I was referencing the far shed.



(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Gt49Rdx/0/MmfvRFgrv9t2vJ9rL262cHBGNRFHnNNV6KbXRJD9X/M/i-Gt49Rdx-M.png) (https://weldtoride.smugmug.com/Other/Modeling/n-ZCSMbV/i-Gt49Rdx/A)


B&W photo isn't clear enough, but whatever is cladding the far shed also somewhat resembles this on a building I personally worked on:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-75ckvF8/0/MFXWr298FCCZtNCcGV445XFSkkWVdFDvLqTpGHrrn/L/i-75ckvF8-L.png) (https://weldtoride.smugmug.com/Other/Modeling/n-ZCSMbV/i-75ckvF8/A)

The above is thin sheet metal sheets impressed to look like brick, there are two patterns on this particular building.  Not at all sure when the metal was installed other than it is certainly not recent. The former horse carriage house it is on is over a century old.
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: deemery on March 14, 2025, 09:49:27 AM
Good for MOPAC.  I always hated Insulbrick!

dave
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: IWannaRetire on March 14, 2025, 02:37:20 PM
I always wondered about its fire potential, and one realtor site currently cautions: "...should the inspector find Insulbrick, call your insurance company before you make an offer on the property. Find out what their policy is on insuring it before it potentially becomes your issue to fix."

Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: deemery on March 14, 2025, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: IWannaRetire on March 14, 2025, 02:37:20 PMI always wondered about its fire potential, and one realtor site currently cautions: "...should the inspector find Insulbrick, call your insurance company before you make an offer on the property. Find out what their policy is on insuring it before it potentially becomes your issue to fix."


The problem is this stuff has asbestos in it.  So it won't burn, but it can give you cancer removing it.  Like lead paint, it requires a qualified HazMat contractor.

dave
Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: KentuckySouthern on March 15, 2025, 10:23:57 AM
Some of those asphalt/asbestos sidings can sound like popcorn as the structure burns, some of the old asphalt brick siding burns big time too. 

Wonder what the inverted "U" pipe is for in front of the door...keep tipsy wheelknockers from stumbling out the door? Or maybe a horse hitching post?

I love little shacks they add nice details with little footprint, combine with a little dock, a whole industry. 

Look forward to seeing what that image spurs someone to make

KS


Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: IWannaRetire on March 15, 2025, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: KentuckySouthern on March 15, 2025, 10:23:57 AM

Wonder what the inverted "U" pipe is for in front of the door...keep tipsy wheelknockers from stumbling out the door? Or maybe a horse hitching post?
 

KS

I agree!  As the tracks themselves are but a few steps away from the door, and the rolling stock side overhangs would put the moving train parts even closer, I'm guessing it's to save someone in any frame of mind from a really, really, bad day or night.


Title: Re: MP Carmen and switchmen shanties
Post by: cduckworth on March 15, 2025, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: IWannaRetire on March 14, 2025, 09:47:51 AMI was referencing the far shed.

Thats another wood siding the Mop used

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Gt49Rdx/0/MmfvRFgrv9t2vJ9rL262cHBGNRFHnNNV6KbXRJD9X/M/i-Gt49Rdx-M.png) (https://weldtoride.smugmug.com/Other/Modeling/n-ZCSMbV/i-Gt49Rdx/A)


B&W photo isn't clear enough, but whatever is cladding the far shed also somewhat resembles this on a building I personally worked on:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-75ckvF8/0/MFXWr298FCCZtNCcGV445XFSkkWVdFDvLqTpGHrrn/L/i-75ckvF8-L.png) (https://weldtoride.smugmug.com/Other/Modeling/n-ZCSMbV/i-75ckvF8/A)

The above is thin sheet metal sheets impressed to look like brick, there are two patterns on this particular building.  Not at all sure when the metal was installed other than it is certainly not recent. The former horse carriage house it is on is over a century old.