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Title: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 15, 2025, 06:00:58 PM
Some time ago I was looking though my computer files when I ran across Brian Nolan's "Ullins Machine Shop." After looking over the photos I thought it would make a nice project. Now I know Deemery (Dave) is also in the middle of his Machine Shop build but his is a kit while mine will be scratch built.

Some personal history:
Quite a few years ago Rick started a thread in the RR-line Forum building a Shop patterned after the one built by Steve Pettit. It started out as a thread that Rick was building but as time went on more and more people jumped in; when the thread was finished it was about 120 pages long.

Being inspired by the thread I decided to have a go at scratch building my first Shop. Needless to say that was a learning build of what to do but more importantly what NOT to do. About the same time Karl Allison was kind enough to give me the link to his build on the SW Forum. I spent hours studying his great work and how he did things realizing I was going about things backwards but I did finish the Shop. Fast forward I made a second Shop and this time I used what I had learned previously so it turned out pretty good. Both Shops had rail coming into it for Loco repair.

Now I thought it would be a fun build to do just a Machine Shop, using Brian's Shop as inspiration, and see what I could come up with. After taking some measurements of my second Shop I sat down and started figuring what exactly I wanted this one to look like and how to go about the construction.

Welcome to Hank's Machine Shop

With this build I'm going to try and give more detail on various techniques I use. First thing was to come up with a size; nothing terribly large but a manageable size to be filled with machines and details. Also I decided to have the horizontal steam engine, boiler, and water tank on the side of the Shop this time around. Any rail will be behind the Shop this time more for deliveries more than anything else.

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To get started I taped a piece of 1/4 inch graph paper to my glass working plate with a sheet of wax paper over top so the glue won't stick to the paper. Like making any building in real life, I started with the bottom and will work my way up. The floor measures 36 x 20 scale feet. The base frame is made up from 8x8's grained where it'll be visible only.

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The floor joists are made from 6x6's grained and colored with chalks, clear alcohol then given a coat of A&I; again only what will be visible. With the floor having to support quite a bit of weight from the various machines I wanted to use a beefier size lumber.

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The floorboards are made from 4x10's grained, colored with chalks and clear alcohol then given a liberal coat of A&I to bring out the grain. Each row was constructed using either 2 or 3 pieces of flooring per row to look more realistic. Each joint received some extra graining on the ends with my plumbers wire brush and yes I did add nail holes throughout. Also I used a darker color for the floor to add some "age" to it.

My goal is to have a Shop that looks used over time but well taken care of. Too many times I've seen shops that look like they're "on their last legs", which is what the builder intended, but I'm sure there were many throughout this Country that were used but well taken care of.

The next task is to elevate the floor to the point where my Ford TT truck can back up to a dock in the front and be even with the truck bed for some modeling variety and for a different look from what I've modeled previously. Come along and join the fun. 








Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 15, 2025, 06:42:38 PM
Looks great so far Larry. I'll definitely be following.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 15, 2025, 07:17:02 PM
Larry, this will be another build to follow along and enjoy.
The base and floor are looking good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on October 15, 2025, 07:39:38 PM
Are you planning belt drive?  Need pulleys?  

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 15, 2025, 08:20:30 PM
Curt and Rick thank you both and for following along.

Dave yes I'll be doing a primary & secondary belt drive. Not sure about
the pulleys yet; however I do have some I have recently acquired but I'll let
you know when I get to that point.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on October 15, 2025, 09:00:35 PM
I'm looking forward to what you build. Brian was a good friend. I'm sure he is smiling down.
I'm working on my 1:16 machine shop. Stay tuned.
Mj
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 15, 2025, 09:22:20 PM
Your off to a great start Larry!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 15, 2025, 11:25:28 PM
Larry it will be fun to watch you go full steam ahead with this build!!
Your off to a good start.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on October 15, 2025, 11:32:29 PM
Good for you Larry. This type of machine shop is perfect. I like your concept.
If you need any pictures of Brian's Machine Shop that were in Mario Rapinett's
Worldwide Modeling folders, I have many. He once told me to share anything I have with others.
Good luck with this build, I will be following along.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 16, 2025, 06:54:10 AM
Mj it'll be nice having you tag along; of course no pressure here I just hope I can
do Brian's memory justice. Looking forward to your 1:16 build btw.

Philip thank you; great to have you along for the ride.

Jerry thank you so much and for joining in.

Rich thanks and for tagging along. I have a little over 30 photos of Brain's build; probably the same ones.
I'll be using his Shop as inspiration while adding my own twist to things just to keep it interesting.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on October 16, 2025, 10:14:14 AM
Howdy Larry,

Hank's looks like a fun build.  Great start on the wall.  Looking forward to all those belts.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 16, 2025, 01:10:50 PM
Mike thanks so much and yes this is going to be a fun one.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 17, 2025, 10:52:20 AM
Time for a small update:

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Now it's time to elevate the Shop floor. After thinking about different ways to go about the elevation I decided to take advantage of the dementional lumber; that way I would know everything would be the exact same height. With that in mind, and after doing some careful measuring, 2 pieces of scale 12x12 inch lumber would fit the bill. These were cut 2.5 ft in length then 2 stack one on top of the other. All the wood was grained, colored with chalk & clear alcohol along with a liberal coat of A&I. Anything that wouldn't be visible was left as raw wood.

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Here's what it looked like when completed. I also added a few pieces of 1x6's all around the base frame for a little added detail.

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And a "proof of concept" photo. The back of the truck is a little shy of being perfectly level with the dock but that will be fixed when the Shop is glued to the base and scenery material is added.

Next will be to start building the back and 2 side walls. These will be completed both on the interior and exterior as far as finishes are concerned. Thanks for stopping by for a look-see and for all your great comments and/or suggestions.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 17, 2025, 11:09:12 AM
Great progress Larry. Do I understand that the platform will be mounted flush on your foam with the legs sunk in?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 17, 2025, 12:08:57 PM
Nice flooring Larry.
Keep up the great work Brian is looking over your shoulder!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 17, 2025, 02:39:23 PM
Curt thank you. No the base will be mounted on the foam as you see it in the photo. The entire front (about 5 boards back) will be a dock area so trucks can back up to it and unload.

Jerry thank you so much. I thought I could feel a warm breeze on the back of my neck. Lol. If I even come close to Brian's amazing work I'll be a happy boy.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on October 17, 2025, 06:37:40 PM
Here we go again ;D  ;D  ;D......another fabulous build by Larry C* ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D I can't wait to see it come to life.....thanx for the inspiration :)  :)  ;D  ;) ............

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co. 
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 17, 2025, 08:10:17 PM
So far so good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on October 17, 2025, 08:28:26 PM
Larry,

Looking back on p.1, you mentioned that the machine shop would be 36' x 20'. OMG that's a
small shop in HO scale! I don't think it would be big enough for me to fit in all of the
machines, with my fat fingers! LOL Keep on with the grind..  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 17, 2025, 08:39:43 PM
Kyle thank you so much for stopping by and you're welcome.

Rick thank you.

Rich you're correct the Shop is 36' x 20' BUT the steam engine, boiler, and water tank will be on the side of the building. There will be 4 or 5 machines at the most in the Shop. Also no  rail inside so that space isn't required for the interior. I figure the area for the steam engine, etc will add another 10 - 12 ft to the overall length; hope I explained it so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: KentuckySouthern on October 17, 2025, 09:13:23 PM
Quote from: Larry C on October 15, 2025, 06:00:58 PMMy goal is to have a Shop that looks used over time but well taken care of. Too many times I've seen shops that look like they're "on their last legs", which is what the builder intended, but I'm sure there were many throughout this Country that were used but well taken care of.
 

I wholeheartedly endorse that point of view.  I think that there are way too many in model building that seem to try and portray the worst of times, shameless copying a few 'masters' that model that way quite effectively but the tendency is toward conformity and lightly managed originality.

Most good machinists are particular about the cleanliness of their work places as medics...their livings depend on it.

Good start, LarryC

KS 
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 18, 2025, 08:13:29 AM
Karl thank you and your thoughts make a lot of sense. There's a machine shop about five minutes from my house that's been there ever since I can remember; matter of fact my neighbor was a machinist there for years. The outside and the grounds are kept up very nicely so one can only assume the interior looks just as good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on October 18, 2025, 01:54:52 PM
Larry, 

That base won't sag, nice work.  I've struggled with the "road hard and put up wet" look, and like your approach, worn, but clean and working.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 18, 2025, 02:40:33 PM
Mike thank you so much. I hear you on that one. The "rundown look" does have its place but I've seen too many modelers use that same approach on all their builds. If you're going that route you better do it very well and few do; IMO.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on October 18, 2025, 03:13:21 PM
Larry, your pulleys are in the mail....

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 18, 2025, 06:19:55 PM
Thanks Dave; I let you know when they arrive.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 19, 2025, 01:27:20 PM
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When I started this thread I mentioned I wanted to show you how I do certain tasks when modeling so hopefully I don't bore you. To start with I use 2 surfaces when building; this one is plexiglass I use for graining and color the wood while the second is glass I attach the graph paper to and build on.

After deciding on a color to use, I then take the Rembrandt chalk and use the same number of scrapes every couple of inches using a single edged blade. Darker colors I use less scrapes and lighter more depending on the look I want to achieve. After that I take a brush and clear alcohol and work the color into the wood and depending on the look I want to achieve I may or may not add a coat of A&I. This will be the siding and I used 2x10's as 1x10's tend to have "bleed through" and I want to use  different colors on each side.

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The tools I use are very basic. To cut thicker wood I have a brass mitre box and razor saw with a piece of sandpaper beside it to clean up the lumber after the cut. To cut thinner wood, like boards for siding, I use a block of wood. This one has a triple thick masking tape on the left to butt the wood up against and the single layer of tape on the right is the length I want each board to be. If you look closely you'll see it's had a lot of use.

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So now it's time to build my first wall from 6x6's. All the measurements are taken directly from the graph paper. Once the wood is cut it may have the end sanded some to get the exact fit. The top and bottom boards are glued with just a touch on both ends to stick to a piece of waxed paper to hold it place. The rest of the wall is built off that. Once finished and dry I use a thin piece of metal to carefully lift the wall off the paper.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 19, 2025, 01:44:31 PM
Continuing on:

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The inside of the side walls are built. If you notice the one on the left has the siding extended above the top of the frame. This is done intentionally and gets trimmed off and all four sides get a light sanding so everything is flush and square. One of the side walls actually was built twice. The first time I thought I might have more of a finished wall inside so I built it with interior boards going horizontally. NOPE! Did not like the look at all. To me a Machine Shop should have the beams showing so I removed the boards and rebuilt that one side.

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Obviously this is the back wall and I built it with two window holes to accept windows but still have plenty of wall space. You'll also notice the side walls are windowless for the same reason.

Next the exteriors on the walls will be finished and the windows installed. Going to use two laser cut windows that Jerry gave me, one of which I'll have to assemble, because they look very promising and the look should be great. Thanks for stopping by and as always I appreciate all your comments and/or suggestions.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on October 19, 2025, 02:05:27 PM
Some thoughts about machine tool layout in the shop:

I scanned the floor, but you could just draw it onto a piece of paper.  I made cut-outs for the footprints for the candidate machines.  I used these to plan the tool layout, the shaft (drive shaft and aux shaft) locations, where to put the various pulleys on the shafts, shifter and shifter handles, etc.  I spent a fair amount of time on tool and shaft layout design.  In my case, the walls were framed but there was no siding, and the roof was open, which made it MUCH EASIER to do all the belts and connections, etc. 

You should consider if you can build your model by attaching the two ends and the ceiling framing, installing the tools, then adding the 2 side walls after the machines are installed. 

For each machine, you need to figure out the power run. That includes (a) how to turn the machine on and off, (b) the location of the drive pulley/step pulley from the shaft to the tool, (c) if you model it, the belt shifters.  In my case, each machine has its own auxiliary shaft.  The drive shaft/aux shaft pair got either 2 pulleys each, or a wide pulley on one side and a pair of narrower pulleys on the other side.  For the pair(s) in the prototype, one pulley is actually coupled to the shaft, and the other pulley spins free.  When the belt is on the free-spinning pulleys, the tool shaft/tool is not powered.  Then a belt shifter moves the belt between the two drive pulleys (or the drive pulley and wide pulley), or between the two idler pulleys (or idler pulley and wide pulley.)  The belt shifter moves the belt from one set of pulleys to the other.

Then you connect the shaft down to the tool.  If the tool has a cone pulley, you need a cone pulley on the shaft, and of course those are reversed.  (small end on the tool lines up with large end on the shaft.)  In theory, those 2 sets of cone pulleys have to be exactly the same diameter.  (In practice, that's kinda hard to do when you're sourcing machine tool models from different sources.) 

Now on my shop, sometimes the driven/idler pair and the cone pulley were close together.  But sometimes that wasn't convenient, so other times the driven/idler pair are on one end of the aux shaft, and the cone pulley is at the other end.   Needless to say, using an aux shaft means you need a pair of shaft hangers for that, as well as the shaft hangers for the main shaft. 

Some shops had a way to disconnect the steam engine from the drive shaft.  (Not a problem if you're using an electric motor.)  I did not model that. 

If you're going to model machinists, think about the figures and how they're positioned to the tool and maybe to the belt shifter handle if you're modeling that. 

Now attaching the belts, after you've glued the tools into position,  turned out to be more annoying than I thought it would be. I used leather-colored construction paper.  What worked for me was to cut the paper over-length, and add a bend (around a drill bit or rod) to make a U shaped belt.  I marked up and rough-cut the belt length slightly long, and glued it into position on the shaft pulley.  Then I put Deluxe Materials Tacky Glue, which is thinner than the Aileens product.  If you use Aileens, thin it a bit so it's easier to apply to the tool pulley.  Test fit, trim and then glue the belt to the back side of the tool pulley, and do the same for the front side, wrapping that piece around the bottom of the pulley.  I left a gap in the back bottom of the tool pulley where it's least visible. I used decal scissors (or use embroidery scissors to cut the paper, you need something thin that cuts precisely.  Besides the embroidery scissors, I used tweezers and a needle in a dowel to position the belts.  It might be worth creating a testbed to practice attaching belts to pulleys.

The Iron Jonsey videos are the best set of 'what's going on here?' videos, particularly this one that shows the belts and belt shifting:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730XhT4B0H0 

I hope these notes help!

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 19, 2025, 02:22:33 PM
Looking great! I would like to say the piers longivity may be short ;)

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Philip
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 19, 2025, 03:03:52 PM
Dave thank you so much for the notes and the link. I've read them over bit & will read a few more times. I usually use 2 different sets of tweezers and a skewer stick to help position/hold the belts. Being O scale I use Tyvek, USPS envelope, cut to size then painted with Raw Sienna craft paint. I do have belt shifters that I'm going to attempt to include in the build. For me doing a belt line I take my time and plan things out beforehand. Of course I'm a long ways from that as I still need to order a few machines yet.

Philip thank you and great cartoon.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 19, 2025, 10:46:49 PM
Sorry man couldn't resist.  ;)

Philip
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 19, 2025, 10:52:51 PM
Larry the walls are looking good and so is the color.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 20, 2025, 06:53:36 AM
Nice job on the walls and also the coloring.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 20, 2025, 07:03:32 AM
Philip I thought the cartoon was funny.

Jerry and Curt thank you both so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 20, 2025, 07:49:58 AM
Larry, the walls look good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on October 20, 2025, 07:58:20 AM
Howdy Larry,

The walls look very good.  Thanks for the chronicle of your building process.  I garnered a few ideas from it.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 20, 2025, 11:48:48 AM
Rick thank you.

Mike thanks and that was my intention to maybe help or give someone else modeling ideas.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on October 20, 2025, 12:10:01 PM
Larry,

Just came across this thread. Not sure how I missed it but I'm here now.

I love the interior walls, very well done and the old brown color seems to fit an older building's interior.

Looking forward to it coming together. Oh yea, I forgot, great job on the decking as well.

Tom

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on October 20, 2025, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Larry C on October 20, 2025, 11:48:48 AMRick thank you.

Mike thanks and that was my intention to maybe help or give someone else modeling ideas.
Doing a detailed machine shop is quite an undertaking!  The more experience we can share about how to do it (or not do it...  ;D ), the better others will be prepared to decide if they want to take on this challenge.   And of course, lessons learned on things like 'attaching belts to pulleys' could well be used for other modeling problems.  

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 20, 2025, 08:40:26 PM
Tom thank you and glad to have you along for the adventure.

Dave I couldn't agree with you more, building a Machine Shop is a challenge but hey that's half the fun.
Almost as challenging as building a Saw Mill.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 21, 2025, 11:32:36 AM
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After figuring out most of the details and making templates for the machines I wanted to include I realized things were going to be a lot tighter than I would like. The solution was to add another 8 ft. to the length of the Shop but still leave the steam engine, boiler, and water tank on the side of the building. In order to keep the windows centered on the back wall I added 4 ft to each end instead all 8 ft. at one end.

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So now here's what the inside of the Shop looks like after the addition. I realized if I was going to make the Shop interior bigger now was the time to do it. There is a line where the flooring butts up against to original one but between all the details, machines, etc. the eye will be too busy to be looking at the flooring; at least that's my hope. Also the ladder, if you notice is taller than the left side wall. This is so it goes into the rafters when I get to that point. I grabbed my SW template from the Wood Cutters Shack and made it twice as long as the template called for.

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This is the outside of the back wall and I decided to go with a green color for the exterior with a coat of A&I added to bring out the grain. The 2 widows are laser cut that Jerry gave me and they finished off really nicely and painted a coffee color from a rattle can. I like the effect of the chalks making the outside look worn but still in good shape.

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I decided to go with a different look for the outside of the end walls so I used some large cut stone sheets from Cooch Enterprises then added some 4x10 boards on each end to cover up the edges of the stones. The gable ends will be green boards to give some contrast.

This is where I'm at for the moment so now it'll be details time and populate the walls before the they are glued to the floor; a process that's definitely going to take quite a bit of time so I get things just the way I want them before any machines are in place. Thanks for stopping by and for leaving all your great comments and also for your suggestions which are helping a lot.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 21, 2025, 02:18:35 PM
Larry nice coloring on the outside walls.
I see you didn't have a problem with the windows they came out nice!

I like the stonewall good contrast to the rest of the building.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on October 21, 2025, 04:54:30 PM
Howdy Larry,

The shop is looking great.  I like the colors inside and out.  The wall studs look perfect. It's a good idea to add details to the walls before they are assembled, IMHO.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 21, 2025, 05:04:10 PM
Outstanding Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 21, 2025, 06:03:41 PM
Jerry thank you. The windows were easy to make and I love the look. I thought the stone walls would be nice for something different for a change.

Mike thanks. The first machine shop I made I added the wall stuff after they were glued in place. That was one of those things NOT to do and it's sooo much easier to do the walls first and IMHO they look better when finished.

Curt thank you so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 21, 2025, 06:05:52 PM
Larry, the inside and outside of the walls look good.
Congratulations on your latest order from SW.
Good that you found out you needed more room before you got too far.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 21, 2025, 08:03:13 PM
Rick thank you so much. I'm looking forward to the new lathe I only wished he had different machines available. When I realized things would be too tight I knew I had to make a decision now on expanding the shop.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on October 21, 2025, 08:10:31 PM
Larry,

A bigger shop is great, but where's the toilet?  ;)
Do they really have to go outside?? :o

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 21, 2025, 08:37:43 PM
Looking great Larry!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 22, 2025, 07:48:25 AM
Rich thanks. Haven't gotten that far yet but I hear Hank is "old school" so I'm sure an "outhouse" will show up at some point.

Philip thanks; taking my time so I get it right.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: GaryMc on October 22, 2025, 11:37:12 AM
Very nice Larry, I will be following along.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 22, 2025, 03:11:54 PM
Gary thank you and thanks for stopping by; nice to have you following along.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on October 22, 2025, 03:14:18 PM
Did you get the box of pulley parts?

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 22, 2025, 08:17:30 PM
Yes I did. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 23, 2025, 09:43:20 AM
For the next several posts I'll be covering details, details, and more details:

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So this is the process I generally use when painting details. I have 2 paint stirrer sticks I use to hold the details so I can get at all the different angles. While some modelers drill holes into the details and place skewer sticks into them I much prefer to use masking tape to hold them in place. Also I find using a primer first helps the chalks/paint adhere better. Usually I use a grey primer so the colors show up better but black, which makes the colors darker, does have its place.

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This is the front of the finished product. This particular item required about 2 hours to complete. Usually I start with the most predominant color, in this case brown for the cabinet, and do all of that inside and out on the piece. Then I go through and paint the fine details one at a time using various colors. Lastly I go back through and do any required touchups. This is a process I really enjoy but it's still a process and takes painstaking time.

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Here is a side shot showing the details on the outside of the cabinet.

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And.....the other side.

So what's next? Yup you guessed it....many more details to paint. After that's finished then I'll start detailing the walls themselves before gluing them in place. Thanks for stopping by and for your support, comments, and/or all your great suggestions so stay tuned.



Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 23, 2025, 11:37:06 AM
Very nice Larry.  Great choice of colors.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 23, 2025, 12:31:22 PM
That is outstanding Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on October 23, 2025, 12:34:13 PM
Larry,

This is one project I put off. I like building structures, but the details?? No.
Although it has to be done or the buildings look naked!  And we wouldn't want that. Noooo.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 23, 2025, 01:40:33 PM
Jerry, Curt, and Rich thank you all so much.

Rich that's interesting how you view details; for me it's something I really enjoy doing and I like seeing a structure come to life.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: GaryMc on October 23, 2025, 04:50:00 PM
Great job Larry, always said it's in the details and this is outstanding.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 23, 2025, 04:59:30 PM
Gary thank you; appreciate your comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 23, 2025, 08:38:18 PM
Cool man! 8)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 23, 2025, 09:12:48 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 24, 2025, 06:43:34 AM
Philip and Rick thank you both.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on October 25, 2025, 02:27:00 PM
Larry,

Very well done. I'm sure Hank is very proud of the large new shop.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 25, 2025, 03:56:27 PM
Tom thank you; appreciate it.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on October 25, 2025, 06:58:49 PM
I really like the shelf with the cans and such. I always struggle with what colors to choose.
Great tutorial.
MJinTN
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on October 25, 2025, 09:01:24 PM
Larry, Larry, Larry;

I step away for a few days, and WHAM :o you're off and running... ;D  ;D this whole thing is looking so damn great I don't know where to begin..... ::) I know, let's start with the modeler......you're so talented my man....I just get the 'Willie Nelsons' (well I gotta get drunk) :o  :o  :o  all over when I see your fine work..... ;)  ;)  ;) It all looks incredible Larry.......keep it up...... 8)  8)  8)

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 26, 2025, 07:08:48 AM
Mj thank you so much. As far as colors I try and mix them up and not have 2 of the same cooker next to each other. Glad you liked the tutorial.

Kyle you're too kind. Thanks for the very nice comments; they're appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on October 26, 2025, 08:56:20 AM
Howdy Larry,

Nice work on the details.  They look great.  I hope they will be viewable in the shop.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 26, 2025, 11:17:12 AM
Thank you Mike. They should be viewable with what I have planned for the Shop build.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 26, 2025, 11:37:58 AM
Here we go.....more details:

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Moving along this one was a quickie, compared with the previous ones. Just a simple closed cabinet colored with chalks, clear alcohol, then given a liberal coat of A&I to bring out the grain in the wood.The hinges and knob were painted with gun metal. The pair of boots on top of the cabinet are from SW that I had in the parts bin; I think they belong to Jerry.

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This is another shelving unit that will go on the righthand side of the Shop and was colored the same way as the previous one.This one was about a 2.5 hour project when all said and done.

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Here's the side with all the nice molded-in details; this side will face the front of the Shop so it can be easily seen. Next will be more of the same.....details. Also I should have the lathe from Sierra West tomorrow (Monday) so that will get added to the to-do list; and no NOT the honey-do list. Thanks for checking in for a peek and for all your great comments and/or your suggestions as well.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on October 26, 2025, 11:58:52 AM
Larry,

"This one was about a 2.5 hour project when all said and done". Huh?
I think I waste more time than that just looking for my details, and
when I finally find them, then my 2.5 hour time begins... Oh well!
Nice painting and colors used on yours.
Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 26, 2025, 12:18:13 PM
Excellent looking details Larry. Very well done.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 26, 2025, 04:49:35 PM
Rich and Curt thank you both so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 29, 2025, 03:04:07 PM
Yup you guessed it.....more details:

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This is a little "make shift" bench sitting on top of two stacks of wood blocks. Theses were a few of the details that I acquired from Jerry awhile back; may as well put them to good use. The box of metal parts and a couple of other metal parts on the bench were colored with gun metal paint. Everything thing else was colored with chalks and clear alcohol. The bench was weathered with black powder.

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Another view of the same bench.

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Her's a wooden barrel with more metal parts inside and an old washtub with even more metal parts. Theses were colored in the same fashion as the bench.

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So if you put all the details together you have what the left hand side and back corner will look like; of course nothing is glue in place until after the walls are detailed. I needed something for the corner so I went through the parts boxes and came up with a 50 gal. drum and a few 25 gallon ones to help fill the corner and another small drum with a propane tank sitting on top. Added a broom, have to be somewhat neat in the Shop, as well as a trash can filled with discarded metal parts.

Now it's onto details for the right hand and the back floor areas before starting on the actual walls themselves. I already have the four machines and they will come later but they do fit to give me the look I'm going after. Thank you for following along and for all your great comments and/or suggestions. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on October 29, 2025, 03:56:38 PM
They look great. You should come here and paint mine!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on October 29, 2025, 07:44:02 PM
Good stuff!
Devils in the details!
 ;D
MJinTN
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on October 29, 2025, 07:46:54 PM
New details look very good!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on October 30, 2025, 12:07:43 AM
Larry a great job on those details!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 30, 2025, 08:13:33 AM
Curt, Mj, Rick, and Jerry thank you guys for your kind comments.

Curt not sure if I could even do HO sized details; those are really small.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on October 30, 2025, 09:24:19 AM
Goodness Gracious :o  ;D Larry C*,.....where to begin ::) OK......IT ALL LOOKS SOOO DANG GREAT!!! ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D.....how 'bout this :o ....I'll trade you 90% of my backdrop skills (I still have to finish my backdrop) ;D  for 1% of your 'details' skill??? :o  :o;....I love your work my man........... ;)  8)  8)  8)  8)

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 30, 2025, 11:22:07 AM
Kyle thank you for your kind comments; they are really appreciated. The swap sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on October 30, 2025, 12:06:25 PM
Great progress!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on October 30, 2025, 08:00:50 PM
Philip thanks; much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 01, 2025, 12:11:56 PM
Did somebody say details?

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A couple more details colored then weathered with just a hint of rust to kick back the gun metal paint on the metal items.

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Here's a couple more small details. The metal old wash tub was colored to look like an old tub. Had scale coal left over from the Blacksmith's Shop so that was added. The barrel has a wooden box on top with a wrench inside. The barrel had the bands colored with a black pencil so they'd show up better.

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This is a large parts bin from Rusty Rail. This one gave me fits. First I had to sand the crap out of the back to get it to sit properly. Then the cabinet was colored using chalks and clear alcohol. After that the little metal details inside were painted with gun metal. When dried the entire cabinet was weathered with chalks.

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This is where the cabinet sits at the moment but that may change. Also the cement pad, which will have a potbellied stove on top, was cut from picture framing mat and spray painted grey. One thing I neglected to mention is the "glass" in the windows is acetate sprayed with a cheap hairspray to look dirty. So this is where I'm at for the moment. As always thanks for stopping by for a peek and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; stay tuned.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 01, 2025, 12:16:49 PM
Howdy Larry,

Nice work on the details.  The colors and placement look great. 

BTW, the images in your last post didn't load.

Have fun,
mike

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 01, 2025, 12:21:21 PM
Mike thank you so much and I'll check into the previous post concerning the photos.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 01, 2025, 03:43:45 PM
More great looking details.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 01, 2025, 04:55:27 PM
Larry nice jobon those details.  The coloring and weathering is great!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 01, 2025, 06:40:52 PM
Larry, nice job painting those details.
We all know you can't have too many details.
I can see the photos in your previous post.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 01, 2025, 06:47:32 PM
Larry, I don't think anyone would say you have too many details.
They all look great the way you chose the colors. I find it difficult
as to placement, but it appears you have that mastered.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 02, 2025, 08:18:57 AM
Curt thank you.

Jerry thanks a bunch.

Rick thank you and for letting me know about the photos in my previous post.

Rich thanks. I usually finish off the details I want then move them around to different locations a few times before I settle on their permanent home.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 03, 2025, 10:57:07 AM
Ok, if you can stand some more details these are the last of the major ones for the Shop:

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I had mentioned previously using a paint stirrer stick to tape the details to for ease of coloring and/or painting; this to me works the best without drilling unnecessary hole in the details. This is the top portion to a workbench from Rusty Rail.

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So here's the finished bench. It came in 2 pieces, the bottom and the top, so it was much easier to color. While the quality isn't quite as good as SW's it came out pretty well and it will be against the back wall behind all the machines.

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Here's another angle of the same bench. This project consumed about three hours to get it the way I wanted it with lots of "touchups" along the way. Before it gets glued in place I'll probably add some more weathering just to tone down the colors a little and get the look I want.

Now it's onto detailing the walls before they get glued into place to make my life easier. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they really do keep me going so stay tuned.


Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on November 03, 2025, 02:38:57 PM
Larry C*,.....I'm plumb dumfounded :o  :o  :o  :o  :o!!!!!

"Wowsah, wowsah, wowsah ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D step right up folks; witness this 'beauteeful woik'........'and for only ah dollah'" :o  :o  :o  :o  ::).....gotcha!!!!! ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D .......sooooo cool.... 8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8) ................

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 03, 2025, 04:04:34 PM
Outstanding Larry. I have several similar pieces and am scratching my head about how not to get brown over everything.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 03, 2025, 04:56:21 PM
Kyle thank you so much for your kind comments.

Curt thank you, much appreciated. If you're doing like a workbench start with the predominant color, let's say brown, and color the entire piece. Don't worry if you get the paint on the other things at this point. When you're satisfied with the look then take a fine brush and start picking out all the individual details. If you happen to get the paint on the wrong thing you can go back and touch it up. I went back 3 or 4 times doing touchups when I did the work bench. Take your time and don't get frustrated with it. I personally prefer using Rembrandt soft chalks and clear alcohol, I only used gun metal paint, but that's just me. They're available through "Blick.com" and about $4.95 for one full individual stick but I think they're well worth the $$ and they last quite awhile. Hope this helps and if you have any questions please don't be afraid to ask.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 03, 2025, 06:37:53 PM
Thanks Larry. That's what I'll do. ;D
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 03, 2025, 06:47:57 PM
That's another fine addition to your model.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 04, 2025, 12:25:12 AM
Larry,

Outstanding work on all of your details.
I too, like using the Rembrandt chalks and Alcohol.
It gives such a fine patina to the wood items in a real natural way.
They look more subtle and subdued using that medium rather than acrylic paints. IMHO

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 04, 2025, 07:20:07 AM
Rick thank you; much appreciated.

Rich thanks and I couldn't agree with you more on the chalks and alcohol. I especially like the fact you can add as much or as little as you want to get the desired effect you going after.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 04, 2025, 09:17:21 AM
Looks pretty good for rusty rails. Better wear steel toes in that shop. Sitting kinda precariously on that drum.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 04, 2025, 10:42:07 AM
Philip thank you. I do have a solution to the uneven drum as a another feature; stay tuned.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 04, 2025, 01:11:44 PM
Larry great job on that last piece!!

J
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 04, 2025, 01:46:05 PM
Howdy Larry,

Those details are fantastic.  Nice work.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 04, 2025, 08:11:05 PM
Jerry and Mike thank you both.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 07, 2025, 12:24:19 PM
Time for wall detailing:

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Started with the left wall first with detailing. I did leave some space between the front and the cabinet so I can build a front piece when I get to that point. Didn't go too nuts on this wall since there is quite a bit of details on the floor. Added a couple of signs and a couple lengths of chain hanging off the wall, I used HO scale track nails to hang the chains on to make it look more realistic.The parts bin I decided to move to the back left corner just because it looks better in that position rather than the right wall.

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A couple more signs and a bunch of small details either on shelves or hanging off the wall. The window glass is acetate sprayed with cheap hairspray to look dirty. Along with the large "monkey wrench" are a couple coils of cable made from florists wire wound around a pencil then squashed to add more length.

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I felt like I needed something in front of the main workbench so I colored up 2 resin blocks  and gave both a coat of A&I to look like wooden blocks.

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Here's the back right corner. I decided that would be a good place to have a pinup of my girl for the fellers to look at during the day. The grey concrete slag was made from a piece of photo mounting board spray painted; this is where the potbellied stove will sit once it arrives from Berkshire Valley.

This is where I'm at for the moment. Both walls, and associated floor details, have been glued in place. Next will be to detail and finish the final righthand wall before moving to the machines. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they really help so stay tuned.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 07, 2025, 01:07:01 PM
When I'm in your area, I'd love to see it up close Larry.

Dave Buchholz
Rochester NY
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 07, 2025, 01:39:06 PM
Wow, looks like an actual work site Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 07, 2025, 02:07:27 PM
That's looking Very Good.  But you need to weather/dirty the floor.  All the photos I've seen of machine shops show dirt, stains, etc, particularly around the walls and stuff on the floor.  You can do that easily with alcohol & ink wash to start, and then maybe add some pigments to get more dust/dirt.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 07, 2025, 02:52:56 PM
Howdy Larry,

I hope those walls are well braced.  All those details might pull it over... ;D  Nice work as always.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 07, 2025, 06:20:15 PM
Dave we may be able to arrange that sometime.

Curt you're too kind, thank you.

Dave I was waiting for someone to point the floors out. I'll probably do that after the last wall is completed and before I add the machines.

Mike thank you; your comments are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 07, 2025, 11:53:26 PM
Larry your detail are really adding to the scene.  Great work!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 08, 2025, 07:24:36 AM
Jerry thank you so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 08, 2025, 10:28:57 AM
Just put of curiosity. How many hours do you think you have into this project?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 08, 2025, 06:42:08 PM
Larry, I think this is your best detailing a scene yet.
Very well done.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 08, 2025, 08:11:02 PM
Dave that's hard to say; an hour here a couple hours there. Probably somewhere around 20 hours so far.

Rick thank you; appreciate the comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 09, 2025, 12:25:55 AM
Very nice work on all of your details Larry.
That parts bin I bet was a bugger to paint with all of those parts in it.
And all of the rest of the details look really good too. I'll bet that pin-up
will either keep the men from working or they might get hurt staring at it all
day not paying attention to their work. I could have sworn the hoses were solder,
until I went back to re-read, excellent modeling.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 09, 2025, 07:53:14 AM
Rich thank you for your nice comments and yes that tall parts bin was something for sure. I use Florists wire for all sorts of things since it's strong, easy to cut, and manipulate; and yes I even use it for welding hoses.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on November 10, 2025, 09:21:34 AM
Larry,

I love that machine shop. Fantastic interior detailing as well. I'm assuming you will "muck up" the floor. Can't have a clean machine shop.

Also, looking forward to the addition of the machines.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 10, 2025, 01:48:40 PM
Tom thank you for your kind comments. Yes the floor will be dirtied up some soon; then even more after the machines are built and glued in place.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 10, 2025, 02:07:24 PM
Moving right along:

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This is the right side wall which is the last one to be detailed. Didn't go too nuts since it's a short wall. Added a couple of signs, the storage shelves along with a 55 gal. drum and three 25 gal. ones added to the grouping. The two pulleys are some that I acquired from Dave which are blacked, buffed, and held in place by a couple of HO track nails.

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Here's the same corner completely finished off. Added a pot-bellied stove from Berkshire Valley spray painted flat black then weathered with a little rust around the "fire pot" as well as grey chalks overall. Also added just a hint of rust on the stove pipe. Made the cement slab dirty with coal dust and some coal spilt on the floor and beside the coal bin. I did add a coffee pot on top of the stove; the boys need their coffee while they drool over the pinup.

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Since I've had a couple of comments on the clean floor I followed Dave's suggestion and went all around the walls and details with A&I to show dirt collecting. Also went over the entire floor with black chalks sparingly to add some dirt areas; I may hit it with some dark brown yet.

Next will be onto the machines themselves although I'm still not 100% sure what they'll all be yet with the exception of a 24 inch lathe from SW. Probably about 4 total so I have some LP wiggle room. As always thanks for stopping by and for all those great comments and/or suggestions; they really do help.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 10, 2025, 02:31:42 PM
Yeah, the floor looks better.  You could do pigments around the base of the machines, dark grey would be good.  And once the machines are located, you could add some 'oil spills' by small amounts of gloss varnish over dark grey puddles.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 10, 2025, 03:12:31 PM
Outstanding detailing Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 10, 2025, 06:43:04 PM
It's all looking very good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 10, 2025, 09:35:34 PM
Looks great Larry!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 11, 2025, 07:56:19 AM
Dave thank you and yes the floor is coming along. Usually when I want to do oil spills I use 3in1 light oil, just a drop, blot off the excess then drop some black weathering powder on top and hit it lightly with a brush; seems to work pretty well.

Curt, Rick, and Jerry thank you all so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 11, 2025, 08:01:06 AM
Howdy Larry, the stove, coffee pot, base, and exhaust pipe look great.  Good luck with the machine choice and placement.  ...and have fun, mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 11, 2025, 11:51:26 AM
Well...I am amazed again! It looks like you have over $200 worth of details here,
plus the countless hours of painting them. There's no wonder why these dioramas
sell for big bucks. But should you not sell it, you can sit back and be happy
about how you masterfully accomplished what you set out to do. And, it looks fabulous!

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 11, 2025, 05:18:31 PM
Mike thank you so much and I'll have the machines figured out soon.

Rich you're too kind but thank you. Yes details can add up quick when doing a project but thankfully most everything I had on hand already. I couldn't imagine anyone actually giving me $$ for a diorama which is ok since I don't plan on selling it anyways. Some day when I can't do this sort of thing anymore I can sit back and look at it remembering the fond memories I had building it.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 11, 2025, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: Larry C on November 11, 2025, 07:56:19 AMDave thank you and yes the floor is coming along. Usually when I want to do oil spills I use 3in1 light oil, just a drop, blot off the excess then drop some black weathering powder on top and hit it lightly with a brush; seems to work pretty well.

Curt, Rick, and Jerry thank you all so much.
I'll have to try that, there's a couple places on my Machine Shop that could use a bit more oil staining.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 12, 2025, 09:10:08 AM
Nice shop!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 12, 2025, 01:30:01 PM
Philip thank you.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 12, 2025, 01:55:42 PM
Did somebody say "machine time?"

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The milling machine is the first up. This is a Crow River product which needed some filing and drilling but not too bad. Assembly was straight forward and the kit went together well. Most of the machines I decided to go with a blue-grey color to get away from the usual green. Unfortunately the blue-grey didn't cover very well so I went with the green instead. The premise is Hank bought this "gently used" and hasn't gotten around to change the color; that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Since this is a used unit I added a little rust here and there. The belt is made from Tyvek (USPS envelope) painted with raw Sienna craft paint.

This is the other side:

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And the end:

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The next machine in the crosshairs will be a drill press which hopefully I can make the blue-grey color I'd like just for a change from the norm followed by other modelers. As always thanks for stopping by and all those great comments and/or suggestions so stay tuned.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 12, 2025, 02:35:36 PM
Very nice job on the milling machine.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 12, 2025, 03:04:07 PM
Nice job Larry!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 12, 2025, 03:11:26 PM
Curt and Jerry thank you both; your comments are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 12, 2025, 05:33:14 PM
Looking good Larry.
Only thing I'd change is the rust on the gear teeth.
Those parts would stay rust free from use.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 13, 2025, 10:14:18 AM
Howdy Larry, 

The milling machine looks great. I like the green color.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 13, 2025, 10:39:15 AM
Ah!  8)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 14, 2025, 07:21:31 AM
Rick thanks and for the suggestion. I did remove most of the rust on the gears and it does look much better.

Mike thank you. I'm trying to stay away from the green since I see it so much in other  Shops; I like to be different than everyone else.

Philip thanks.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 15, 2025, 11:33:11 AM
Machine # 2:

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The drill press is another Crow River product which required much the same prep work as the Milling Machine. The piece was primed with a grey primer and I was able to get the blue-grey color I wanted. The belt is made from Tyvek and painted with raw Sienna craft paint. Also added some metal filings to the drilling plate and more will be added around the drill once it's permanently glued in place.



Here's the other side

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Now that I have the "well used look" I want the challenge is going to be making the lathe look the same as both completed machines.

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Lastly here's looking at the front of the machine that the LP will see. Next will be assembling the 24 inch lathe. That should be interesting since everything is 3D printed and some of the details look quite fragile. I'm thinking the lathe will go in the front of the Shop and the drill press will be in back of it on a secondary belt line. Also I did order a pedestal grinder and a shop blower from Wiseman I would like to incorporate into the second line.

That's about it for now. As always thanks for stopping by and for all those great comments and/or suggestions.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 15, 2025, 12:05:38 PM
How did you attach the belts?  That was a challenge on my (HO) machine shop.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 15, 2025, 01:19:08 PM
Dave I use a glue called "Rapid Fuse" by DAP which can be purchased at hardware stores. It's supposed to glue any material together in 30 seconds and takes a couple of hours to fully cure. It's a little pricey but I use it for most non-wood material and it works pretty well. I use it on white metal and also 3D printed parts of resin. Also I try and put the joints of the belt where it won't show.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 15, 2025, 02:40:30 PM
I'll have to look for that stuff next time I'm at a hardware store.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 15, 2025, 03:19:57 PM
Awesome machine Larry. Does crow river do HO? Thanks for the glue tip. Next trip to ACE I'll be looking for it.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 15, 2025, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on November 15, 2025, 03:19:57 PMAwesome machine Larry. Does crow river do HO? Thanks for the glue tip. Next trip to ACE I'll be looking for it.
They do some stuff in HO, and it's very nice.  But their belt drive kit is a bit too big, particularly shaft diameter, for HO.  They've recently done a steam engine in HO  https://www.crowriverproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=68&osCsid=q88vgn3q5uenn9pqtft3qup646

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 15, 2025, 08:24:18 PM
Curt thanks. Like Dave mentioned they do HO as well, although I've never looked at the items. Their O scale items are well made but do require some prep work being pewter/white metal but the prices are reasonable and their service is quite good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: KentuckySouthern on November 15, 2025, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Larry C on November 15, 2025, 01:19:08 PMDave I use a glue called "Rapid Fuse" by DAP which can be purchased at hardware stores. It's supposed to glue any material together in 30 seconds and takes a couple of hours to fully cure. It's a little pricey but I use it for most non-wood material and it works pretty well. I use it on white metal and also 3D printed parts of resin. Also I try and put the joints of the belt where it won't show.
I recently used some of the DAP Rapid Fuse Super Glue to assemble some pieces of a large hand blown glass lamp shade the Doll had, it works well.  I then used it a couple of other places and finally became careless with it and found out that it also glues the 2 pieces of the top together quite firmly, QUITE.  Beware that there is another product that hangs from the next pin over DAP RAPIDFUSE Ultra Clear.  It has a top similar looking to the old Standard Oil Crown.  It is really decent, but...takes 30 minutes or more to set up.  A real time killer with the glass project. 
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 16, 2025, 05:38:55 AM
Looks good Larry.
Shop is starting to fill up nicely.
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Post by: friscomike on November 16, 2025, 07:49:56 AM
Howdy Larry, two thumbs up on the milling machine.  Excellent work!  Have fun, mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 16, 2025, 08:14:56 AM
Karl I've had the same problem with the top glueing itself down but if you keep the nozzle really clean, and don't screw the top down too tightly, I've had good luck with it.

Rick thank you.Slowly but surely it's coming along.

Mike thank you for your kind comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 17, 2025, 12:22:27 PM
Here's another machine:

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This is a 24 inch engine lathe from Sierra West. Everything is 3D printed and comes in 8 separate pieces. What I decided to do was prime all the pieces with grey primer, color with blue-grey chalk and clear alcohol then after everything dried it was assembled. The metal color was dry brushed with gun metal paint which took longer but the end result looked much better than applying the paint in one coat. Probably the trickiest part to painting the metal color was to get the threaded rod in the front to look right.

The other side:

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And the end:

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While the lathe has fantastic detail some of the pieces are extremely delicate. A word of advice; if you decide to build one of these for yourself take your time using tweezers, toothpicks, and ONLY use enough pressure holding the glued parts in place until the glue sets. Now the challenge was to make this machine look "well used" like the Milling Machine and Drill Press. To that end I went over the entire machine with a dusting of black chalk used sparingly.

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Before any of the machines are glued in place I added some brown chalk to the entire floor and blended it in with a soft brush; now I'm happy with the "dirty level". I have a pedestal grinder coming from Wiseman which should complete the machines I want to use inside the Shop when it arrives. While I'm waiting for the grinder I'll be starting to figure out how I want the belt lines to go and also how much detail I want to put into them. As always thanks for stopping by and for all the great comments and/or suggestions.





Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 17, 2025, 12:30:35 PM
Larry thanks you for the glue suggestion. I got a tube yesterday and used it today on several items. It sticks well, is easier to use, and doesn't leave a mess like epoxy.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 17, 2025, 02:31:19 PM
Curt you're welcome; glad I could share some of my knowledge. Word of caution make sure you keep the tip clean or the top will get glued to it.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 17, 2025, 04:15:29 PM
Howdy Larry,

The lathe looks great.  The color is spot on.  I like grey machines, and the chalk did the trick.  Your work is making me want to add a mill.  I have the Mill Boiler kit...but where would I put it on the layout?

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 17, 2025, 04:33:50 PM
Mike thank you so much; that was a fun kit to build. Do I smell a future expansion coming up?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 17, 2025, 06:13:06 PM
I can tell you're having fun by the way you're knocking out the machines one after the other.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on November 17, 2025, 06:19:47 PM
Good stuff Larry!
Have you ever tried the AK interactive dark steel powder?
Makes almost anything look like polished steel (even your fingers!)

I highly recommend it
MJinTN
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 17, 2025, 08:38:09 PM
Rick thank you and yes this project is very enjoyable.

Mj I have never tried that but I'll have to look into it; sounds interesting....thanks.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 17, 2025, 09:41:06 PM
Very well done Larry!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 17, 2025, 10:29:39 PM
 Looking good Larry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 18, 2025, 07:49:14 AM
Jerry and Philip thank you both, your comments are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 18, 2025, 09:22:35 AM
I have learned that a silver magic marker also contains no metal flakes.

The mig stuff looks worthy also.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 18, 2025, 11:14:02 AM
Philip thanks for the tip....pun intended.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 19, 2025, 02:27:14 PM
Couldn't resist! ;D thumbs up.jpg
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Post by: Larry C on November 20, 2025, 08:37:43 AM
Funny that!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 21, 2025, 01:26:51 PM
The shop is looking really nice now Larry, with the addition of each piece of machinery and multiple details.
In fact, you are giving me inspiration to want to build something similar. Thank you for the tips.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 21, 2025, 04:41:56 PM
Rich thank you for your kind words. Glad I could help to get your juices flowing.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 22, 2025, 02:45:49 PM
Now for the final machine:

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This is a pedestal grinder I bought from Wiseman which arrived a couple days ago. Now I'm not sure if he changed the white metal material or what but this small machine gave me "fits" trying to glue it together. I use a very good glue that's guaranteed to glue anything to anything....nope didn't work. Finally I filed the areas that needed to be glued together until they were shiny; they were dull prior to filing. Then the glue decided to stick.

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Here's a little different angle. After assembly, and the glue was dry, the whole thing was spray painted with a grey primer. After that was cured the entire grinder was finished with blue-grey chalks and clear alcohol then it received a dusting of black chalk for weathering. Also the grinding stones were painted with grey paint with a touch of black added for more of a stone color.

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So now I have to add the belt lines and these are the hangers I'll be using. I really like these, and have used on every shop.There is ample distance between the rod and the wood to allow for larger pulleys to be used. Theses were spray painted with a flat black primer.

Obviously the next step is to add the belt lines. The secondary will be short and will run the drill press and the grinder. The primary will have the lathe as well as the milling machine and will extend through the right wall so the steam engine, boiler, and water tank can be outside the shop; at least that's the plan.

Thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they are appreciated and really do help.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 22, 2025, 06:39:31 PM
The grinder looks great Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on November 23, 2025, 08:14:09 AM
Larry,

I miss a week and I see you've been very busy in the machine shop. The machine tools look fantastic, very well done.

Keep up the wonderful modeling.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 23, 2025, 08:30:20 AM
Curt thank you; that was a tough one to assemble.

Tom thank you for the kind comments; much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 23, 2025, 09:50:01 AM
Nice looking grinder and hope the belt drive install goes well.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 23, 2025, 10:45:18 AM
Rick thanks. Hopefully the belt install will go fine. I'm using a narrow pulley on the line to accept the narrow belt coming off the grinder; at least that's the plan.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 23, 2025, 08:37:04 PM
Howdy Larry, 

The pedestal grinder looks terrific.  Sorry you had glue difficulties.  I had the same with the metal fire truck.  What I learned was that glue doesn't like to stick to paint.  The most important thing I learned was to clean the part really well in the ultrasonic bath. You may have done all those things, and the glue still didn't stick.  In that case, it was probably sun spots that caused it...

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 07:22:59 AM
Mike thank you. Since I don't have one of those cleaners I can't comment. I think whatever the dull finish was, was the culprit. As soon as I filed the gluing areas shinny then the glue bonded well; I'll need to remember that for future reference.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 24, 2025, 10:04:56 AM
I missed this one Larry.  Very well done.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 24, 2025, 10:09:37 AM
Mike thanks for the ultrasonic bath tip.
I seem to always forget about about the rule #1 "clean it"

I also agree about needing to remove the oxidized patina from metal parts. It gives a better surface for the clue to attach to. Wouldn't surprise if the scratching aspect of filing or sanding increases the bondable surface area as well.

Once again something I'm guilty of not always remembering to do.(Next to never)

Fifth Dave to the right
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 11:09:35 AM
Yup that sounds about right Dave; I'm as guilty of not cleaning the parts as the next guy; live and learn.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 24, 2025, 12:13:29 PM
I have a jar of water, vinegar and dishwasher soap that I drop castings into.  The idea is to clean and lightly etch the castings.  After they soak for an hour, I rinse thoroughly and let dry.  It seems to work.

But the best stuff to clean castings is Super Clean.  I keep a 10% solution of that stuff in a bottle, pour it into a container when I need to really clean something.  When done, I pour the solution back into the bottle, and wash off the part.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on November 24, 2025, 12:39:24 PM
Very interesing! I have always wanted an ultrasonic cleaner. 8)

Sometime I use a cheap air eraser from Harbor Freight with baking soda on metal figures. It really makes the paint stick and make the parting line and imperfections dissapear.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 05:45:53 PM
Guys it always amazes me the different approaches  used by different modelers; I think that's what keep this hobby so interesting.

Deemery(Dave) I have a Shop question: when using a cone pulley on an overhead line does the "belt changer" need another pulley or does it simply move the belt along the cone until it no longer powers the machine. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 24, 2025, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 05:45:53 PMGuys it always amazes me the different approaches  used by different modelers; I think that's what keep this hobby so interesting.

Deemery(Dave) I have a Shop question: when using a cone pulley on an overhead line does the "belt changer" need another pulley or does it simply move the belt along the cone until it no longer powers the machine. Thanks in advance.
I think you need a separate pulley set to connect/disconnect the cones.  The way I did it was to put the cone and shifter pulleys (one driven, one idler) on a separate shaft.  On this note that the main shaft pulley is a "double-width", so it will keep the belt parallel to either the driven pulley or the adjacent idler pulley.
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I think the other way this is done is to have some sort of clutch between the driven pulley and the cone pulley. 

(Note the tweezers on the bottom right, those are used to hold the bottom of the belt into position while the glue cures....  The pieces of tape on the floor remind me where the doors are, so I don't put any machines or tables in front of the doors.)

dave

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 06:01:38 PM
Dave thank you. I wanted to make sure before I get too far along on the primary belt line.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 24, 2025, 06:05:43 PM
Prototype photo, I think this is from the Iron_Jonsey videos on YouTube.  Those are VERY MUCH worth watching if you want to see 19th century machine tools used to repair 19th century machine tools.  Belt-driven shop (but an electric motor rather than steam engine.)
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You can also see how the far pulley is (more than) twice the width of the belt.  That belt is roughly the same size as the two pulleys in the front right (driven and idler.)

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on November 24, 2025, 06:37:16 PM
Just to confuse y'all
The live and dead pulleys are what make the machine operate or not.
Cone pulleys change the speed (with inverse sizes)

Let me know if I need to illustrate

MJinTN
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 24, 2025, 08:32:55 PM
Dave thanks for the photo and screenshot they helped. I'll add another pulley for each cone pulley plus the shifter.

MJ thank you for the explanation; I understand what you're saying.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 25, 2025, 07:00:09 AM
Interesting conversation.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 25, 2025, 12:49:09 PM
Sometimes you will see sets of reducing cones, identical, but staggered in opposite directions on drive line and machine. That way you can still change the speed of the machines feed, but the belt length can stay the same. Just a idler clutch pulley in-between is needed to move the belt from side to side to change speed.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 25, 2025, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: Dave Buchholz on November 25, 2025, 12:49:09 PMSometimes you will see sets of reducing cones, identical, but staggered in opposite directions on drive line and machine. That way you can still change the speed of the machines feed, but the belt length can stay the same. Just a idler clutch in-between is needed to move the belt from side to side to change speed.
I think the cones HAVE to be in opposite directions, because you can't change the length of the belt!

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 25, 2025, 02:50:30 PM
That. And if the cones are in the same direction, it would result in a constant speed anyway. Using opposed cones maximizes the potential rpm differential possible on the machine spindle.

Dave #5
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on November 25, 2025, 06:41:15 PM
I don't know how you do it Larry C*.; it always looks so amazing :o  :o  ;)

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 26, 2025, 09:22:19 AM
Kyle thank you so much; lots of practice I guess with maybe just a smidge of talent thrown in.

Dave #5 and Dave; yes I belief the cones have to be in opposite directions from the directions I've seen from various manufacturers.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 27, 2025, 10:14:00 AM
Since there's a lull in the cooking, thought I do a small update:

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Started with the second belt line first since the primary will be closer to the front. Whenever I do an interior detailed build I always start at the back and work my way forward. The beam going across the Shop is a scale 6x12 grained and colored with chalks, clear alcohol, and a liberal coat of A&I. I decided to go "old school" with all the pulleys. After filing they were soaked in a blackening solution. After drying they were buffed with my Dremal and a soft cone pad. After looking over the directions for a belt changer I decided to keep it simple since any details for that won't be seen by the time the building is completed. Because the grinder wouldn't be used all that much I opted to have that and the drill press on the same line with a belt changer that would stop both machines for service and/or repair. Made a simple "changer handle" colored with the end painted yellow for visibility; drilled a small hole in the side of the beam having the handle held in place with a HO track nail. Also of note the uncolored 6x6 is there to take the "sag" out of the beam. Once the primary line is installed, and the belts in place, then I plan on tying in all the top of the walls with 6x12's then run a couple of beams front to back to hold the belt lines level so the 6x6's will go away; at least that's the plan.

That's about it for now so stay tuned. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 27, 2025, 10:39:45 AM
That looks good!   I would agree with your shop design to run grinder and drill press off the same shaft, a continuously operating grinder would make sense (not much hazard and no reason to stop except to change the grinding wheel.)

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 27, 2025, 11:00:11 AM
Outstanding Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 27, 2025, 05:48:21 PM
Dave thank you so much. That was my thoughts with the grinder.

Curt thanks a lot; much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on November 27, 2025, 09:36:10 PM
Larry,

I'm hoping you are having a Happy Thanksgiving day today with your family.
I'm stopping in to see this part of your project up close and it's personal.
I must do a similar routing of belts to machines on two of my own recent
projects, which I put off due to not knowing what attaches to what. I hope
you can figure this out and your up-close pictures surely will come in handy.
You are doing a great job with this. Thanks for sharing.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 28, 2025, 07:31:27 AM
Rich thank you and yes we had a nice Thanksgiving with our Daughter. Glad I'm able to help you sort out the belt lines; any questions don't be shy about asking. Check out Deemery's (Dave) Shop he knows what he's doing with the belt lines.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on November 28, 2025, 07:33:35 AM
Larry, good plan and execution on the tool and belt placement.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on November 28, 2025, 08:18:08 AM
Howdy Larry,

The machine shop continues to get even better with each tweak. What machines are next?

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on November 28, 2025, 10:02:43 AM
Larry nice job with the placement of the machines and the belts.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on November 28, 2025, 10:23:19 AM
Larry, did I miss what the belt material was made of. Maybe colored construction paper?

5D2r
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on November 28, 2025, 10:47:53 AM
Just catching up Larry C*.;

This is an amazing piece of art my friend ;) .....it reminds me of the projects you so graciously adorned my layout with....such talent ;)  ;) ..........thanx for the inspiration... 8)

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: KentuckySouthern on November 28, 2025, 11:06:30 AM
That's sure a nice looking shop, Larry, each update is more frosting!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 28, 2025, 04:50:39 PM
Rick thank you; trying to think a few steps ahead.

Mike thanks. The primary line will have the lathe and milling machine, each with their own belt changer.

Jerry thank you so much, appreciate your comments.

Dave the belt material is from a USPS large Tyvek mailing envelope, they're free, then was painted with raw Sienna craft paint.

Kyle thank you; much appreciated. Glad I can inspire others.

Karl thank you for your gracious comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 28, 2025, 07:23:17 PM
So the machines are drill press, lathe and milling machine.  From the little bit of reading I've done on machine shops, that strikes me as 'minimal useful set' for general work.  But maybe Bernd could comment on that.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 28, 2025, 08:13:55 PM
Dave you forget the pedestal grinder. Lol. There is a bolt cutter and one other machine, can't recall the name, I've seen I other modeled shops. SW used to make more machines but only has the lathe in 3D prints. Besides I don't think I'd have the room for others without making the shop look too crowded.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on November 29, 2025, 08:15:58 AM
Larry,

The shop is looking fantastic. Love all the details.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 29, 2025, 10:33:01 AM
Tom thank you; appreciate your comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on November 29, 2025, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: deemery on November 28, 2025, 07:23:17 PMSo the machines are drill press, lathe and milling machine.  From the little bit of reading I've done on machine shops, that strikes me as 'minimal useful set' for general work.  But maybe Bernd could comment on that.

dave


Answering that question would take a few days of research. The number of machines and types depends on what the machineshop is building or repairing. A good example is the East Brad Top railroad facilities. I don't believe they have a mill. Why, beacuse they have planers and shapers. These two machine preceeded the milling machine. They were used right up to when the railroad shut down.

Here's a link to what they have in machines. These would be the basic machines used to build and repair railroad equipment.  LINK: https://oldeastie.com/Shops/ (https://oldeastie.com/Shops/)

A machine shop contracting work of any kind would have a deversity of machines to do the job asked of them. Think of bascis, lathe, planer, shaper, grinder, drill press. Then into the 1920's, 30's, milling machines. Large bridge milling machines to replace the planers and small horizontal or verticles machines replacing the shapers. Also depends on what year you are modeling. That would narrow down the machines needed. Obviously you won't have a CNC machine in a 1900's machine shop.

That's about all I can add to this conversation. There are more machines that I don't even think they have models of. I did some searching but couldn't find what I'm looking for in pictures so you understand what the machine is and looks like. I bet nobody has heard of a "verticle lathe"? Hope it helps.

Bernd

Bernd
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 29, 2025, 06:39:48 PM
Bernd, are you thinking about something like this machine?  https://presse.surplex.com/pressreleases/precision-work-in-xxl-7-facts-about-vertical-turret-lathes-3300472  Apparently vertical lathes were widely used for large gears.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 30, 2025, 07:46:45 AM
Bernd and Dave thanks for the info and links; interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on November 30, 2025, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: deemery on November 29, 2025, 06:39:48 PMBernd, are you thinking about something like this machine?  https://presse.surplex.com/pressreleases/precision-work-in-xxl-7-facts-about-vertical-turret-lathes-3300472  Apparently vertical lathes were widely used for large gears.

dave

Nope. That's just another tool. Yes that machine turns "gear blanks". It is not not made for gear cutting. Where I worked we had two of them. They bored out the large cradles for gear cutting machines. A fixture would hold the curved shape of the cradle so the internal bores could be turned.

Anothe interesting link is the "Vintage machines" site.

http://vintagemachinery.org/ (http://vintagemachinery.org/)

It says it's not a secure site. I was there and  didn't run into any problems.

Bernd
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 30, 2025, 02:24:10 PM
Bernd thanks for the link; I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 30, 2025, 02:44:22 PM
Moving right along:

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The primary belt line is in with the shaft going through the stone wall outside to the right; this is where the steam engine, boiler, and water tank will reside. The milling machine's belt was pretty easy to install and make look right. The lather however was a different story. I didn't realize it when I was coloring/weathering it but the belt would NOT go under the cone pulley; no room was made for it to slide under when printed and that was rather disappointing. Looking at it I figured I'd have to make it "Look" like it did. Started on the front side getting one end of the belt right in the crack between the lathe and the pulley. Once that was glued in place then the belt went up and around the other cone pulley on the line then glued on the back of the machine the same way as the front. Presto, now the belt looks like it should. Also added a belt changer for the lathe and the milling machine.

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Here's a little different view and hopefully those 2 posts will disappear during the next step in the build. Speaking of next steps, next will be to add a narrow wall along the front then tie the entire top of the Shop together before adding 2 cross beams over the entire width so I can remove those 2 posts. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions.



Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 30, 2025, 03:53:59 PM
To pick a nit:  On the shaper, the cones are slightly misaligned.  The small pulley of the top cone should be directly over the large pulley of the lathe's cone.   And is there enough room for the full travel of the shaper front to back? 

Your approach with the lathe is the same as what I did with all my machines.  I looped the belt over the driveshaft pulley, then trimmed the bottom to cover as much as I could to the bottom of the machine pulley, on both sides.  So there's a gap that can't be seen at the bottom of each of my machine pulleys.  I had the advantage of access from all sides, since i didn't affix the walls until after the machines and belts were installed.

This is the kind of work that is both frustrating and rewarding, particularly as you think through and understand the shop and tool engineering.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 30, 2025, 04:23:05 PM
It looks superb Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on November 30, 2025, 05:16:53 PM
Dave unfortunately the milling machine's pulleys are off just a hair. I had to glue the top cone to the shaft in order to get the belt on properly and was off a smidge but they are on the proper part of each pulley. good eye though.

Curt thank you so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on November 30, 2025, 05:28:25 PM
What I did was set the machines, then glue (drop of CA) the shaft pulleys into position, to make sure they line up.  (I mention this for others contemplating the joy of a belt driven machine shop.  i learned A LOT from studying build threads by others.)

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 02, 2025, 11:28:23 AM
Larry, the machine shop looks fantastic.  The pulley wheels in the ceiling are amazing.  Nice work.  Have fun, mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 02, 2025, 12:11:26 PM
Dave thanks for your input; I'm sure others will benefit.

Mike thanks so much; it's slowly getting there.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 03, 2025, 09:46:14 AM
Larry, congratulations on getting the belt line, belts and pulleys installed.
I know it's not easy to do.
Looking good from where I'm sitting.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 03, 2025, 09:49:24 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 03, 2025, 11:32:54 AM
Good work Larry. Hank will be happy!  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 03, 2025, 10:20:28 PM
Nice job Larry.  You did a fine job with the belts.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 04, 2025, 08:07:00 AM
Rick, Philip, Rich, and Jerry thank you guys for your generous comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 04, 2025, 12:37:03 PM
Here's what I've been up to:

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After looking at the Shop I decided I wanted more of a finished look in the front. To that end I made a 2 foot tall wall going across the length of the Shop. Used 6x6's for the frame and 2x10's for the siding as well as some 2x10's to finish off the ends of the front walls. Also added a post in the middle to help support the front made from 6x6's.

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Then I tied in all of the walls with 6 x 12's all the way around on the top; by doing this I was able to run 2 beams across the entire width which eliminated the 2 posts I had previous used to help support the belt lines. I also used some florist wire to further support the beams at the joints. 

Next I'm going to start on the 2 end rafters and yes I'm going to add a roof and possibly add some sort of lighting up in the rafters as well. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 04, 2025, 04:59:08 PM
The valance looks good Larry. Smart idea about the florist wire.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 04, 2025, 05:11:57 PM
Valance was a good idea and looks good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 04, 2025, 08:07:36 PM
Curt thank you. I wanted to make sure once I get the Shop all together there was some extra protection in case the glue ever failed.

Rick thanks; much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 06, 2025, 09:21:33 AM
Howdy Larry,

The valance looks terrific and certainly finishes the front of the shop. The subtle grey coloring is spot on.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 06, 2025, 09:28:03 AM
Thank you Mike for your comments; they are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 06, 2025, 11:49:51 AM
Larry nice job on the valance and the coloring!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 06, 2025, 02:40:57 PM
Thanks Jerry, it's slowly coming along.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 06, 2025, 11:51:00 PM
Looking great Larry, workers can move in soon.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 07, 2025, 07:59:14 AM
Thanks Rich. I have one LP already which I need to paint and install in the back of the Shop before I go too nuts on rafters. Don't want to break stuff trying to get my mitts in the back.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: elwoodblues on December 07, 2025, 09:59:14 AM
Larry,

The machine shop is really starting to take shape and as everyone else has said the valance looks great.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on December 07, 2025, 11:24:04 AM
Larry,

As others have stated, the valance looks perfect for the front.

Absolutely a fantastic build my friend.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 07, 2025, 12:53:42 PM
Tom thank you so much; your comments are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 07, 2025, 01:18:20 PM
Onwards and literally upwards:

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When I was looking at the ends of the Shop, after adding the 6x12's to tie in the top, they looked unfinished to me. To remedy that I decided to extend the siding on the end rafters to hang down 6 inches below the bottom of the rafters to cover this; of course shown is the back of the rafter which will never be seen again when the roof is finished.

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So here's the look I was going for by extending the siding down the 6 scale inches; a nice finished look. As of now the end rafter is just sitting there and not glued in just yet.

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Here's a photo with both end rafters built and installed. Used one of my drafting triangles set against the end of the Shop to make sure the rafters were plumb with the ends. Before gluing in the last end rafter I grabbed a length of scale 3x12 to make sure the peaks and the ends lined up straight. I'll be building three more rafters from my build sheet. One for the middle of the Shop with the other two splitting the space between the ends and the middle rafters.

In between building the last 3 rafters I have a few details I ordered from SW for the inside; also I need to paint a LP to place in front of the workbench on the back wall before any more rafters are installed. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they do help.





Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 07, 2025, 01:47:12 PM
Looks great Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 07, 2025, 02:13:48 PM
Curt thanks; it's getting there.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 08, 2025, 07:27:20 AM
Larry, good solution to hiding the beams.
The painting and weathering on the walls is very good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 08, 2025, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: Larry C on December 07, 2025, 01:18:20 PMIMG_M0058.jpg


Dang man......... frosted flakes great!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 08, 2025, 03:27:33 PM
Rick and Philip thank you.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 08, 2025, 11:43:23 PM
Nice job Larry.  Weathering looks good.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 09, 2025, 10:48:58 AM
Jerry thank you.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 10, 2025, 10:29:24 AM
A few more pieces to the puzzle:

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These are a few items I ordered from Sierra West a week or so ago. Wanted to add a little something extra to the inside details. The stand, hand cart, and dock cart were all painted and/or colored with chalks and clear alcohol. What little bit of assembly required was very easy.

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This is the right front with the cart placed at the edge of the dock to aid in unloading anything heavy that comes in on a truck. The stand was placed on the end of the Milling Machine, and is moveable, to help facilitate longer pieces of metal that needed milling.

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Lastly this shows the hand cart, in the back of the Shop, for moving around barrels of scrap metal. Just a few extra details to balance out the look of the Shop.

Next will be painting my one LP and place him in front of the workbench against the back wall; in hindsight I probably should have placed the LP some time ago but hey who doesn't like a challenge. After that then it's back to rafters and roofing. As always thanks for stopping by and for leaving all your great comments and/or suggestions; they really do help.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 10, 2025, 12:12:16 PM
Nice looking details Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 10, 2025, 02:48:55 PM
Curt thank you so much.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 10, 2025, 06:44:33 PM
The shop is filling up nicely.
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 10, 2025, 09:28:54 PM
Larry, my T fine!  Love the small details.  ~mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 11, 2025, 07:42:25 AM
Larry,

Regarding the 2nd picture on post #250 above, to where will the wheel outside lead to?
A powerhouse to run the shop tools or another shop with more tools? Nice looking shop so far.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 11, 2025, 07:47:07 AM
Mike thanks; it needed a little something extra.

Rich thank you. The pulley on the outside of the Shop is where the steam engine, boiler, and water tank will reside. Thought it would be nice to do something different.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 13, 2025, 11:19:58 AM
Cool additions Larry!, the dead man roller caught my eye. What about that toothpick? ;)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 13, 2025, 11:27:10 AM
Philip thank you. The tooth pick was a photo prop to keep the handcart upright. Not included in the kit.Lol.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: elwoodblues on December 13, 2025, 11:56:58 AM
Larry, with those details, the shop is coming to life.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 14, 2025, 08:21:11 AM
Ron thank you so much. Now I need to paint up 4 LP's and add the roof then it'll be time to start on the exterior.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 14, 2025, 10:48:58 AM
Details look very good and placed nicely.

I love the toothpick!!  ;D

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 14, 2025, 10:54:12 AM
Jerry thank you. I figured the toothpick was a better alternative to hold up the handcart than my finger.

Thought I would share a quick update:

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The one 3D printed LP I had on hand, 4 more arriving tomorrow, need to get painted and planted before I went too nuts with the rafters just to make life easier. He was spray painted with a grey primer first to make the paint adhere better. By placing him on top of a can I can then pick it up and get all the nooks and crannies.

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The figure was painted with craft paints, a couple of fine brushes, and my not-so-steady-hand. After the paint completely dried I then dusted it with black chalks to tone down the paint and bring out some of the details as well.

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Here he is "planted" in front of the workbench; obviously I was more concerned what the back looked like than the front of this LP. Cut a piece of photo mounting board, painted brown, then glued him to it. In turn I glued the bottom of the board then I used tweezers and a skewer stick to get him in place and pressure added to set the glue.

Next it'll be back to finishing up the rafters and getting them installed. I'm also toying with the idea of adding lights up in the rafters; which will need to be done before I add any roofing boards. Thanks for stopping by for a look and for all your great comments and/or suggestions. Stay tuned.


Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 14, 2025, 11:34:26 AM
Very nice paint job on the LP.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 15, 2025, 07:48:15 AM
Curt thank you; tried to make it look as real as possible.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 15, 2025, 08:00:47 AM
Larry, nice job painting the little guy.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: GaryMc on December 15, 2025, 10:13:45 AM
Larry,
Very nice, the shop scene is coming to life with every added detail.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 15, 2025, 11:20:28 AM
Good LPB, who sells those?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Dave Buchholz on December 15, 2025, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: GaryMc on December 15, 2025, 10:13:45 AMLarry,
Very nice, the shop scene is coming to life with every added detail.
I totally agree. It's coming to life.

You just need a speaker underneath so visitor can hear  a tape recording of the machinist swearing for making that part on the lathe too small!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 15, 2025, 06:43:24 PM
Great looking shop Larry. I could almost work in there now.  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 15, 2025, 08:30:13 PM
Rick thank you.

Gary thank you so much.

Philip thanks. The 3D LP prints are from Rusty Rail and they are reasonably priced; I ordered 4 more to include in and around the Shop.

Dave thank you. That would be a novel idea.

Rich thanks; I've enjoying building this one.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 16, 2025, 06:29:29 AM
Cool man thanks!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 16, 2025, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Philip on December 16, 2025, 06:29:29 AMCool man thanks!

Your welcome.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 17, 2025, 03:20:55 PM
Moving along:

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Now that I've constructed the other 3 rafters, using my template, it's time to install then on the Shop. I wanted to make sure all the peaks were lined up so I grabbed a length of 2x10 and attached it  to the end rafters using straight pins to make sure everything lined up instead of just "eye balling" it.

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All the rafters have been glued in place and the distance between each one is pretty much spaced evenly and plumb with the top beams.

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Here's an end view and as you can see they are all lined up perfectly which should adding the subroof much easier; that of course is my next step. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they are very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 18, 2025, 09:53:48 AM
Howdy Larry,

The LPs add an even more character to the shop.  It seems a shame to cover up those fine details with a roof, but it does look good. Nice work.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 18, 2025, 10:11:12 AM
Mike thanks. By the time I get done with the Shop you'll be able to see all those details just fine.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 18, 2025, 12:14:09 PM
Great job on the rafters
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 18, 2025, 03:30:47 PM
Curt thank you. Roofs are my least favorite build job; but sometimes it needs to be done.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 18, 2025, 03:33:35 PM
Larry the rafters look great nice job.

And the pins add a nice detail!!   :) ;D

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 18, 2025, 05:04:36 PM
Fantastic build! 8)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 18, 2025, 05:13:26 PM
Rafters look good.
Will you be adding lights?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 18, 2025, 10:01:12 PM
Larry,

Great idea on how to match up the roof rafters.
I do the same with checking using a piece of stripwood, but never
thought of pinning it in place, good work.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 19, 2025, 06:55:51 AM
Jerry, Philip, Rick, and Rich thank you guys so much for your support and your comments. Yes I will be adding lights to this one so all those details are visible.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 21, 2025, 09:40:39 AM
This will most likely be my last update until after Christmas:

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The sub roof is finished. Used 2x10's for a little more support; decided against using card stock and went with the wood instead. I did color the underside of the wood just in case it shows when I get the lights installed; if not I know it was done.

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Here is the finished front side of the roof. Used 1x10's for the roof which were grained, colored with chalk and clear alcohol then a liberal coat of A&I was added while the wood was still wet. The seams are covered with 1x4's given the same treatment. All in all I think this turned out quite nicely.

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This is with the Shop sitting on a half inch base. Next will be to install the lighting up in the rafters BEFORE I start on the back part of the roof. When the roof is done then I'll add the ridge cap to both sides and add some weathering as well. Thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they really do help.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on December 21, 2025, 10:36:56 AM
Just getting caught up Larry C*.

This looks amazing. I just can't get over it....it's almost as if I'm looking at a structure in a miniature world.  I see what you've created, and then start to study the ones you sent me, and I get amazed all over again  ;D  ;D .....fascinating...... 8)  8)  8)
MERRY CHRISTMAS.......

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry Co.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 21, 2025, 10:53:43 AM
Larry I love the board on board roof.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 21, 2025, 02:33:00 PM
Larry great job and nice coloring!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 21, 2025, 06:20:47 PM
Kyle thank you so much for the nice compliments. Merry Christmas to you as well.

Curt thank you. With the size of the roof it was easier to do that type of roof rather than  wood shingles.

Jerry thank you, much appreciated. I wanted the roof to be a contrasting color to the other wood in the build; I'm not a fan of matchy-matchy.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 21, 2025, 10:57:27 PM
Howdy Larry,

What a great way to end workbench activities until after Christmas.  I love the board-on-board roofing! It looks realistic and certainly adds a lot of character to the shop.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 22, 2025, 05:47:33 AM
Larry, the board on board roof looks very good.
It should keep everyone and everything inside nice and dry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 22, 2025, 07:34:03 AM
Mike and Rick thank you both so much and for your support.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on December 22, 2025, 01:23:34 PM
The roof looks great Larry. My biggest compliment would to be for what color to choose for the roof coloring.
It stumps me in my own modeling what to choose for that. I'm sure you will figure it out. Everything
looks great.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on December 22, 2025, 06:37:08 PM
Boarding up for Christmas are we?  ;)

Typical contractor ;D  Great work!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 22, 2025, 08:18:23 PM
Rich and Philip thank you for your comments and for following along.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 28, 2025, 12:14:07 PM
Lights, camera, action:

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Looking through the lights I had on hand, this seemed to be the best solution. Had a short length of "wire lights", at least that's what I call them, that I was able to weave through the rafters to hide them from view which runs on 2-1.5 volt AA batteries with an on & off switch.These are available through Amazon for cheap.

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After temporarily blocking the back side of the roof, keeping all the light inside the Shop, this is what the interior looks like. I'm rather pleased with the way the lighting turned out plus you can now see all the details.

Now it's on to finishing the backside of the roof and I have come up with a way to make the backside removable in case the light wire ever needs to be changed. Thanks for stopping by leaving all your great comments and/or suggestions; they are appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 28, 2025, 01:09:31 PM
It looks awesome Larry. Maybe a couple of small spots of white glue would work.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on December 28, 2025, 01:13:27 PM
A removable roof without purlins running across the boards would be tough!  One possibility would be to cut and glue the board-by-board to paper, and add something running from rafter-to-rafter at the base to keep the roof from sliding off.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 29, 2025, 07:14:31 AM
Curt and Dave thank you both for your comments and for your roof suggestions; they're appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on December 29, 2025, 08:37:57 AM
Larry, great job on adding the lights.
The lit interior looks very good.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 29, 2025, 09:04:24 AM
Thanks Rick; I wanted the details to be visible ti the viewer.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on December 29, 2025, 09:45:04 AM
Very nice Larry.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on December 29, 2025, 09:59:42 AM
Howdy Larry,

The lights are effective and show off the machines.  Nice work. 

 I don't recall if you used ACC to assemble the metal machines, or were they all resin?  

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: labdad on December 29, 2025, 06:29:03 PM
Those "wire lights" are a great find!
As long as they're hidden.
Looking good!
MJinTN
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 30, 2025, 07:58:39 AM
Jerry, Mike, and MJ thank you all so much.

Mike the machines were glued together with a superglue by Dap Co.

MJ those lights work really well for what they are and yes they HAVE to be hidden from sight.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: elwoodblues on December 30, 2025, 09:37:21 AM
Larry, 

It might be a little late now but on one build I'm doing (it is still in progress, has been for the last 10 years :o ) I glued the end rafters and every other rafter to the building and the rest of the rafters to the roof, this makes an easier removable roof.

In your case I like Dave's solution.  I would use a flexible glue like Aleene's Tacky Glue.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: ACL1504 on December 30, 2025, 01:25:13 PM
Larry,

Wow, some great progress and looking fantastic. The roof is top notch and the interior lighting looks very natural. Well done, very well done.

Tom
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on December 30, 2025, 08:03:42 PM
Ron thanks for the suggestion but I have another arrangement I'm going to use. I'll file that one away for the future.

Tom thank you; much appreciated. Soon I hope to actually start working on the diorama portion of the build.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 01, 2026, 11:42:56 AM
May as well start of the new year right:

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Here's the back side of the roof. To make this removable, so I can get to the lights if need be, I started with a piece of 110# paper (thin card). After cutting it to the desired size I started with the ceiling using 2x10's as before then wighted it to allow the glue to day. Next I used 1x10's for the roof and 1x4's to cover the seams. Positioning the roof in place I taped it temporarily and drilled 2 small holes up halfway on both ends and carefully inserted track nails into the holes and through the rafters; also added a touch of glue on the bottom of the outside rafters. So now the roof can be removed for maintenance. Lastly I used 1x6's for the roof ridge on both sides; now the roof is complete.

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Now comes the fun part....making the diorama. The base is 1/2in. green foam measuring 16 inches wide and 11 inches deep. This is about where the Shop will sit positioned on the foam.

Next will be figure out the exact location for the Shop and start with some hand-laid track on the backside before I hide the light wire from sight. Thanks for stopping by and for all your kind comments and/or suggestions.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 01, 2026, 12:10:25 PM
Looks awesome Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 02, 2026, 07:10:49 AM
Thank you Curt.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on January 02, 2026, 07:39:27 AM
Larry,

Using track nails to secure the roof is a great idea.
I may use this later at some point, thanks for the idea.
Great looking build.

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 02, 2026, 07:59:31 AM
I was looking at the back again and it could have a tropical appearance. At a quick glance the roof looks plant based. Just an off the wall thought. ;)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2026, 11:06:00 AM
Very nice Larrry.  Looking forward to the scenery.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on January 02, 2026, 01:27:50 PM
Howdy Larry,

The shop looks fantastic.  I'm looking forward to your diorama.  Fun!

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 02, 2026, 04:54:43 PM
Rich, Curt, Jerry, and Mike thank you all for your nice comments. The track gang should be showing up soon to get things started.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on January 03, 2026, 01:06:45 PM
Nice  work!
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on January 03, 2026, 06:35:02 PM
Roof looks good.
Interesting that you chose to nail it down.
Have you tried taking it off?
Is it easy to remove?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 03, 2026, 08:33:08 PM
Philip and Rick thank you both. Rick I used a rounded track nail so it comes off easily with a small pair of needle nose pliers. It will only be removed if the lights need service.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: kyle creel on January 04, 2026, 11:33:04 PM
Another superbly done structure Larry C*; it always amazes me  ;D  ;D  ;D .....The talent in this group of fellas is overwhelming..... :o  :o  :o soooo cool........ 8)  8)  8)  8)

KYLE CREEL
G&D Ry. Co. 
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 05, 2026, 07:18:28 AM
Kyle thank you so much; appreciate your comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 05, 2026, 02:34:52 PM
Here's the new update:

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Decided to go with a length of hand laid track across most of the back of the diorama which will supply the Shop with water from a tank car to the tank (both yet to be built). The ties are made from 3x12's colored my usual way with A&I added. Once glued down the outside rail was glued in place then held more securely with track nails. The outside rail was glued just on one end then set in place using my rail gauges. After that the other end was glued in place the same way before adding the rest of the track nails. The wire for the lights goes under the track.

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Here's the finished, weathered rail and the Shop glued in place. To hide the wire going down the side of the building I cut a piece of a soda straw then spray painted it flat black. When dry I cut a slit down the length of the straw to hide the wire in which is held in place by friction atm.

Next I think I'm going to center my attention on the left end, looking from the back, area and build and install the steam engine, boiler, and the elevated water tank. Behind the Shop will be pallets, barrels, and etc since there isn't much room between the ties and the building. Thanks for stopping by leaving all your great comments and/or suggestions

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Pennman on January 05, 2026, 05:04:39 PM
Larry,

Nice update and great hiding the electric wire.
Regarding the straw with the enclosed wire for the lights,
since the stove inside, and is in the same location, are you
planning an extension for the stove to protrude through the
roof? I would add a small section of straw (pipe) for the stove there.
JMHO

Rich
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 06, 2026, 06:42:52 AM
Great looking progress Larry. Is this going on your layout or be a diorama?
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 06, 2026, 07:44:20 AM
Rich thanks. Never thought about the potbellied stove's chimney that is a great idea; thanks.

Curt thank you so much. Going to make it into a diorama for now but it may end up on my layout at some point.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 11, 2026, 09:59:19 AM
Since I'm waiting on items for the Challenge, I went back and did some work on Hank's:

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This is a new 3D printed item from Rusty Rail; a twin cylinder vertical steam engine. When I saw this about a month ago I knew I wanted it for the Shop since it's something totally different from the norm. The detail is incredible, very clean, and the price was very reasonable.

Started by spray painting the entire piece with flat black primer. After than dried I went over it with a mixture of raw umber & rust chalks with clear alcohol. After that dried I very carefully, so as not to break any tiny parts, went over it with a dry brush removing some of the excess chalks until I was satisfied with the look. The base was dry brushed with raw umber and grey chalks.

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Here's a couple more photos of the rest of the engine. I'm going to add another pulley on the empty shaft so it lines up with the belt line making the control lever facing the front of the diorama and the steam pipe is facing the back so a boiler, yet to be detailed, steam line can be attached. I really like the look of this steam engine and it's uniqueness.

When I'm not working on the Challenge, then I'll make a concrete base for the engine/boiler area then start detailing the boiler. As always thanks for stopping by and for all your great comments and/or suggestions; they're appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on January 11, 2026, 10:15:20 AM
Larry, nice job on the engine.  Thanks for describing your technique.  If you're thinking of this as an operating engine, think about where there would be oil stains, and put some gloss medium or gloss grey paint there.

dave

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on January 11, 2026, 10:35:39 AM
Larry you have really done and outstanding job on that one!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on January 11, 2026, 11:12:32 AM
Got my attention!  8)
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 11, 2026, 11:58:22 AM
Dave thank you and I'll keep the oils stains in mind since this will be a woking steam engine.

Jerry thank you so much; I'm very pleased with the way it turned out.

Philip glad I got your attention.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 11, 2026, 01:18:08 PM
That looks most excellent Larry.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on January 11, 2026, 04:43:03 PM
Great looking engine.
I like Rich's idea for the straw.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 11, 2026, 06:07:00 PM
Curt thank you for your nice compliment.

Rick thanks. Yes Rich came up with a really good idea and I do have a piece of the straw left so it's very doable when I get to it.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on January 12, 2026, 09:41:35 AM
Howdy Larry,

Excellent work on the engine.  The finish is perfect.

Have fun,
mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 12, 2026, 11:22:20 AM
Mike thank you for the nice compliment; much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 13, 2026, 11:32:44 AM
A bit of an update:

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The concrete slab for the steam engine and boiler was made from 2 pieces of photo mounting board glued together. When dry the entire thing was spray painted with a grey primer. Next it was dry brushed with brown and black chalk (used very sparingly). Also oil stains will be added when I start the scenery process.

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Onto the boiler. This is a resin form from SW which didn't include any details and most of the holes were marked but required drilling. After doing some research online I knew in which direction I wanted to go. After drilling all the holes needed, the stack was glued to the bottom with ACC then spray painted with black primer. Then the entire boiler was weathered with a 50/50 mixture of brown and rust chalks and applied with clear alcohol. Once dried a few Q-tips were used to remove the excess chalk until I got the look I wanted.

AS far as the details most were fabricated from coated wire or some parts from the parts bin. The steam bleed off line is wire with a small faucet on the end pointing towards the ground for safety. The water valve I had on hand; painted the body brass and the handle red. The water pressure gauge I had on hand and just touched it up some. The water glass is a piece of bare wire painted white with brown added to the bottom to show the water level. Lastly the three valves on the front left are track pins shortened, glued in, and the tops painted red.

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A few different angles showing the boiler. I'm quite pleased the way this turned out and I especially like the way all the rivets showed up. One note, the hole in the stack (the 3rd photo) is where the steam line comes out and goes to the steam engine but that'll be one of the last things I add. Also need to work on the round water tank and elevate it. Thanks for stopping by and for all those great comments and/or suggestions.

Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 13, 2026, 11:41:40 AM
That looks outstanding Larry. I really like the add-on's.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 13, 2026, 12:07:08 PM
Curt thank you. I'm very pleased the way this turned out.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on January 13, 2026, 01:06:08 PM
Don't forget a coal bucket, spilled coal and ashes.  Coloring on both boiler and engine are really great.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 13, 2026, 04:36:05 PM
Dave thank you. Not sure yet if it'll be a coal burner or wood yet but thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on January 13, 2026, 04:50:58 PM
If wood, then some bark chips would be likely spillage between the wood container and the boiler.

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: elwoodblues on January 13, 2026, 09:05:49 PM
Larry, the boiler looks great, I really like the colouring and weathering.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 14, 2026, 07:18:57 AM
Dave yup that was my thoughts as well.

Ron thank you for your kind comments.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Philip on January 14, 2026, 07:33:47 AM
 8) Nice lil engine.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: friscomike on January 14, 2026, 08:35:23 AM
Howdy, Larry, nice work on the boiler.  The details you added look great. Have fun, mike
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Jerry on January 14, 2026, 10:20:50 AM
Larry that is very nice.  The combo of them both together is right on.
I think this id your best weathering to date.  You should really be proud of yourself!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 10:27:08 AM
Larry,

Been following your machine shop build, aslo Dave's machine shop build.

Have you ever watched this guys video's? I think he has a residence here in the middle of New York state somewhere. He goes to Florida in the winter. he hasn't posted in over a year. makes mewonder if he is still around. His workshop is totaly steam powered with overhead belt system. Might be of interest to you and Dave. Probably a little late in posting this since both of you are almost done with your projects.

Here's the link to his U-tube videos: David Richards (https://www.youtube.com/@davidrichards5594)

Bernd
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on January 14, 2026, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 10:27:08 AMLarry,

Been following your machine shop build, aslo Dave's machine shop build.

Have you ever watched this guys video's? I think he has a residence here in the middle of New York state somewhere. He goes to Florida in the winter. he hasn't posted in over a year. makes mewonder if he is still around. His workshop is totaly steam powered with overhead belt system. Might be of interest to you and Dave. Probably a little late in posting this since both of you are almost done with your projects.

Here's the link to his U-tube videos: David Richards (https://www.youtube.com/@davidrichards5594)

Bernd
Ah Geez, there goes another couple of days spent watching videos!

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 14, 2026, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 10:27:08 AMLarry,

Been following your machine shop build, aslo Dave's machine shop build.

Have you ever watched this guys video's? I think he has a residence here in the middle of New York state somewhere. He goes to Florida in the winter. he hasn't posted in over a year. makes mewonder if he is still around. His workshop is totaly steam powered with overhead belt system. Might be of interest to you and Dave. Probably a little late in posting this since both of you are almost done with your projects.

Here's the link to his U-tube videos: David Richards (https://www.youtube.com/@davidrichards5594)

Bernd
Ah Geez, there goes another couple of days spent watching videos!

dave

Ya, but think of all the interesting things you'll learn that you never knew about. It'll give you a look at turn of the century small machine shop work and help setup your next machine build with all that information.

A scotch on ice should help while watching.  ;)

Bernd
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 14, 2026, 12:55:27 PM
Bernd no I haven't watched that video; I'll have to check it out...thanks.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: deemery on January 14, 2026, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 14, 2026, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 10:27:08 AMLarry,

Been following your machine shop build, aslo Dave's machine shop build.

Have you ever watched this guys video's? I think he has a residence here in the middle of New York state somewhere. He goes to Florida in the winter. he hasn't posted in over a year. makes mewonder if he is still around. His workshop is totaly steam powered with overhead belt system. Might be of interest to you and Dave. Probably a little late in posting this since both of you are almost done with your projects.

Here's the link to his U-tube videos: David Richards (https://www.youtube.com/@davidrichards5594)

Bernd
Ah Geez, there goes another couple of days spent watching videos!

dave

Ya, but think of all the interesting things you'll learn that you never knew about. It'll give you a look at turn of the century small machine shop work and help setup your next machine build with all that information.

A scotch on ice should help while watching.  ;)

Bernd
Ugh, I would never put good Scotch on ice.   >:(  

But I have learned some interesting things watching machine shop videos, about how to think about projects and how to set up work (machine or manual.)

dave
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on January 14, 2026, 03:41:22 PM
@ Larry,

You're welcome. I figure it's hard to set up a shop like your're building if you lack knowledge of excatly what goes on inside and how it's setup.

@ Dave,

I don't drink Sctoch so wouldn't know. I do drink some brandy though and no ice.  ;)

Seeing both you and Larry building a shop and some of the struggels in belt placement and machine placement I figured this would be the best video to watch since in a few of his videos he shows how everyhting is setup and why.

Now enjoy your scotch tall and watch the videos.  ;)  ;D

Bernd
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Rick on January 14, 2026, 04:38:19 PM
Larry, the boiler does look like it's been sitting outside for a while.
Nice weathering.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Larry C on January 14, 2026, 08:23:40 PM
Bernd thanks for the video link; much appreciated.

Rick thank you.
Title: Re: Hank's Machine Shop
Post by: Bernd on January 15, 2026, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: Larry C on January 14, 2026, 08:23:40 PMBernd thanks for the video link; much appreciated.

Rick thank you.

Anything to help understand what's involved in a subject that I am familiar with. If it helps great, if not, nothing lost.

Glad you liked it.

Bernd