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Title: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 08:08:58 AM
Oil leaks can be everywhere, caused by a lot of different things. They can be heavy, light, relatively clean, really dirty, rusty... Right now I am interested in how to simulate the leaks from cars and/or trucks travelling over wooden bridges, light use.

How do you guys and gals do it?
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on December 04, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
I think most oil leaks are caused by old VWs.   ;D


Jeff
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 08:24:37 AM
Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on December 04, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
I think most oil leaks are caused by old VWs.   ;D


Jeff

Fweeeeem!  ;)
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ReadingBob on December 04, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
 :D  I'm about to add some to the diorama I'm working on.  I put a tiny spot (or spots) of PollyScale Oily Black where I want the stain to be and then a slightly larger spot of A&I on it to thin it out and spread it out.  Adding rust colors is a good point that I hadn't though of.  I like using umber's and sienna's mixed together to get various shades of rust.  I may try to add some rust color stains the same way - a spec of color and then some A&I or just A. 
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 04, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
:D  I'm about to add some to the diorama I'm working on.  I put a tiny spot (or spots) of PollyScale Oily Black where I want the stain to be and then a slightly larger spot of A&I on it to thin it out and spread it out.  Adding rust colors is a good point that I hadn't though of.  I like using umber's and sienna's mixed together to get various shades of rust.  I may try to add some rust color stains the same way - a spec of color and then some A&I or just A.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: deemery on December 04, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
Crude oil often has a somewhat greenish sheen to it.


dave
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: bparrish on December 04, 2014, 12:35:53 PM
Randy........

Dark oil stripes down the center of the road are largely gone today.  All cars and trucks before 1972 to 75 had a crank case breather that dumped whatever found it's way there over the side and only the street.  Also seals on rotating shafts were not as good then on both engines and transmissions.  All of that changed with the various emissions laws.

As for the notion that all of that stuff about VW's generating all of that is a cheap shot ! ! !

There are a litany of oil leaking jokes out there but most of them are aimed at our British friends and their cars of the same era.  I won't go there.

As for simulating it........... Get your road material down, whether plaster or some other medium.  Color it as you choose and then dry brush some slightly darker color. 

In my trolley division the tracks run through the pavement and from the track cleaning pad that I use there is a black substance that comes off and stains randomly the brick color.

Trolleys also puked all sorts of heavy grease that got tracked around.  I'm sure the city dads would like that now ! ! !

Below are some photos of the trolley district on my BN&O railroad.

see ya
Bob

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-041214123053.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-041214123026.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/81-041214122959.jpeg)

Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: NEBrownstone on December 04, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
Hey Bob, are those Orr turnouts, or did you build them up yourself?  I love street trackage.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 02:40:22 PM
I am going to attempt to post some pictures. I followed directions but found it VERY complicated and caused me a headache! I posted in the other forum in under 3 minutes, but "choosing a category"? there was no CATEGORY to choose from... ugh! It took me 15 minutes...there has to be a faster way! This method makes me want to NOT post pictures.

Anyway, here is what I have so far...BTW, this is the decking for Groovey Jeff's Covered Bridge kit. And in retrospect, I hadn't thought of the glossy/shiny/ness of oil and grease in the real world. It's interesting how we see ordinary things everyday, but never remember what they LOOK like!

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143315.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143221.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143149.jpeg)
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: S&S RR on December 04, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: Randee on December 04, 2014, 02:40:22 PM
I am going to attempt to post some pictures. I followed directions but found it VERY complicated and caused me a headache! I posted in the other forum in under 3 minutes, but "choosing a category"? there was no CATEGORY to choose from... ugh! It took me 15 minutes...there has to be a faster way! This method makes me want to NOT post pictures.

Anyway, here is what I have so far...BTW, this is the decking for Groovey Jeff's Covered Bridge kit. And in retrospect, I hadn't thought of the glossy/shiny/ness of oil and grease in the real world. It's interesting how we see ordinary things everyday, but never remember what they LOOK like!

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143315.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143315.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143221.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143221.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143149.jpeg) (http://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-041214143149.jpeg)

Randee

Looking good.  About the pictures on this forum - it is a pain to get use too,  but once you do it works pretty well.  It doesn't take me any longer here now that I have been doing it for a year. 
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 02:57:05 PM
Re: the pictures...I HAD to give them names, so I chose Oil Leak 1, 2, 3...then when it came time to post them, those "names" were nowhere to be found, the system had renamed them with an internal name. I had no idea whether they were being posted in the order I wanted or not! grrrrrr
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: Janbouli on December 04, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
Randee , if you are going to stay on the other forum aswell and post photo's there the linked way then it's really easy to just copy paste the post you did on the other forum.

The last post on my layout thread is a copy paste of the one on MRR

Final trackplan of this section, now for my achilles heel , wiring , does it matter where I connect an autoreverser and does it matter where the track is isolated , what's better between the turnout and the curves or somewhere further in the curves.

[img?]http://janbouli.com/images/trackwork/up14.jpg[?/img]

If I leave out the question marks the img  would have shown.  But I see that you use the gallery to post photo's .

Let's see if "copy image location" will work

This is your image on MRR after right clicking on it and clicking on Copy Image Location  http://www.kitforums.com/download/file.php?id=112074 (http://www.kitforums.com/download/file.php?id=112074)

Now all you have to do is click on the Mona Lisa here and click Control V, or right click and click Paste, what I did for the image below.

(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kitforums.com%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D112074&hash=b57d3639ade64c3389b7695c1117be6aab3b1252) (http://www.kitforums.com/download/file.php?id=112074)
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: Janbouli on December 04, 2014, 03:09:11 PM
Another advantage of the linked photo's  is that they show up large and we don't have to do the silly clicking to see the real size photo.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
Thanks Jan! When I started this thread this morning, I thought I was here on THIS forum, so I had to continue. Next time I will be more careful. It seems silly to post identical posts to both forums, doesn't it.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ReadingBob on December 04, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
That's an awesome looking car!   :D
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 06:10:38 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 04, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
That's an awesome looking car!   :D

Thanks! Bagman asked how we did it on the other forum, so here goes...We put several vehicles on the module for the EXPO in 2012 in Lancaster. As I look at it in my hand, yes it is a CMW Holdings, Ltd, from China.
I think I just used some weathering powders, (Doc O'Brien's and some from BarMIlls), then sprayed lightly with DullCoat, or something similar. The trick is to not do TOO much.
Thanks for the compliment. :P
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 04, 2014, 06:20:36 PM
Quote from: bparrish on December 04, 2014, 12:35:53 PM
Randy........

Dark oil stripes down the center of the road are largely gone today.  All cars and trucks before 1972 to 75 had a crank case breather that dumped whatever found it's way there over the side and only the street.  Also seals on rotating shafts were not as good then on both engines and transmissions.  All of that changed with the various emissions laws.

As you can see from my pics, I'm thinking mid (last) century

QuoteAs for the notion that all of that stuff about VW's generating all of that is a cheap shot ! ! !

It's ok :)

QuoteAs for simulating it........... Get your road material down, whether plaster or some other medium.  Color it as you choose and then dry brush some slightly darker color.

Below are some photos of the trolley district on my BN&O railroad.

see ya
Bob

Love it!
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: Janbouli on December 04, 2014, 06:53:18 PM
I post identical posts all the time Randee, If I didn't I wouldn't be posting to the other forum at all anymore. I still think a few people only come over there, but fewer and fewer.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 05, 2014, 09:36:38 AM
OK, two more, trucks this time, then I'm done.

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-051214093226.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/22-051214093315.jpeg)
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: oldbloodhound on December 05, 2014, 11:13:55 AM
That pickup is awesome.   The stakebed on the other looks too new or something but the Dodge is good.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: NEMMRRC on December 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
There are other forums?

Nice work Randy.

One advantage of kitforums is that it shrinks your photos to fit inside your screen properly. Then you click to enlarge.

One advantage of modelersforum is photos show up in the post as you're typing it in.

You do the best you can with what you got.

Jaime
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 05, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: oldbloodhound on December 05, 2014, 11:13:55 AM
That pickup is awesome.   The stakebed on the other looks too new or something but the Dodge is good.

Thanks Dave...looking at the stakebed, you are right. Perhaps it's just dirty?
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: BandOGuy on December 05, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Randee on December 04, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
Thanks Jan! When I started this thread this morning, I thought I was here on THIS forum, so I had to continue. Next time I will be more careful. It seems silly to post identical posts to both forums, doesn't it.


Both forums?
Does not compute.
Why post on a forum where you are the only reader? Save the time to model and report here.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: DaveInTheHat on December 05, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
To make oil spots I use the gunk that builds up in the bottom of the thinner jar that I use to clean my paint brushes.
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: gnatshop on December 05, 2014, 07:53:39 PM
Quote from: DaveInTheHat on December 05, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
To make oil spots I use the gunk that builds up in the bottom of the thinner jar that I use to clean my paint brushes.
I like that - multiple uses and it also makes the wife happy that your making use of the messy crap that you create!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: tabooma county rwy on December 06, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
Yet another method of simulating oil droppings is to use Tamiya's "Smoke" acrylic paint.  I apply tiny spots with the end of a toothpick.


Al Carter
Title: Re: Oil leaks
Post by: ranny9 on December 06, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: tabooma county rwy on December 06, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
Yet another method of simulating oil droppings is to use Tamiya's "Smoke" acrylic paint.  I apply tiny spots with the end of a toothpick.


Al Carter

Wow...thanks all, for all the good ideas!