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Title: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on November 14, 2020, 07:27:49 AM
Here are the contents of the big white box.............
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ReadingBob on November 14, 2020, 08:04:50 AM
I'm in.  Got a front row seat for this one!  ;)
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Post by: PaulS on November 14, 2020, 08:26:34 AM
Wonderful !!,  Bob do you mind if I sit in the seat next to you ??
Looking forward to following along Mike,
--Paul
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Keep It Rusty on November 14, 2020, 08:41:35 AM
Oh okay, I'll fork out for tickets on this one too!

Hard to go wrong with FOS limited run kits.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on November 14, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
I'll definitely be following.
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Post by: GPdemayo on November 14, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
I'll be looking in on this one Mike..... :)
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Post by: Opa George on November 14, 2020, 03:30:20 PM
Right here as well.  Should be a good show.
--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: nycjeff on November 14, 2020, 05:08:26 PM
Hey Mike, looks like a lot of work ahead of you, good luck. I'm sure you'll do a great job.   Jeff
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: WigWag Workshop on November 15, 2020, 09:09:59 AM
Looking forward to this one!


-Steven
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Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on November 15, 2020, 12:18:39 PM
Wow, that's going to be quite the project doing two Fos scale "Super Kits".  I am in!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: S&S RR on November 15, 2020, 05:22:05 PM
Mike


I'm in too, I will be following along at a safe distance.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Jerry on November 15, 2020, 10:50:25 PM
Looks like you picked a winner Mike.  Looking forward to the start.


Jerry
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: MAP on November 18, 2020, 09:43:30 AM
Great choice!!  I'll be following along as well. 
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on November 22, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
Thanks very much Gentlemen.
I am going to make a start with the storefronts first. Just identifying the parts takes a lot of time as they are located in different bags or different sheets.Obviously this makes for economy. Here are some of parts for this little beauty.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on November 22, 2020, 02:28:39 PM
Continuing..........
The walls were braced and then painted a light blue. The shop front is made up of several layers of laser card.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on November 23, 2020, 12:15:35 PM
Hey Mike:

Off to a good start. I'll be following along.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Jerry on November 23, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
Looks good so far Mike.


Jerry
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Post by: jerryrbeach on November 23, 2020, 06:20:38 PM
Mike,


I echo what Karl and Jerry said.  I'll be following, too. 
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Post by: tom.boyd.125 on November 24, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
Mike,
Will check in on this one.
Keep buying those limited run kits so you can share the builds.
Don't forget to keep the spouse happy and get that house she likes too !
Tommy
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on November 25, 2020, 05:55:58 AM
Thanks Karl, Jerry, Jerry and Tom for your support.
Mike

Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on November 28, 2020, 06:00:09 AM
Going slowly due to the pending house sale and having to complete the company houses elsewhere on the forum.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on November 28, 2020, 09:49:56 AM
Hey Mike:

It's looking just great so far.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on December 04, 2020, 04:52:00 AM
Thanks Karl.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on December 04, 2020, 08:25:58 AM
Hey Mike:

You are quite welcome.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 07, 2021, 11:24:55 AM
Continuing.................here is the completed facade for the storefronts.

Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 09, 2021, 01:13:49 PM
Continuing.............I have completed the storefronts. I have added acetate glass and window displays. The base for the street was painted concrete. The scribed walls were painted a pale blue and the frontage raw sienna. I glued the walls together which is an irregular shape based on the outline of the street base. Problem Houston! The roof does not fit either way. I had glued the tar paper strips on one side based on the tick marks for rafter rails being printed on the reverse. It looks like I have to cut a new roof...............
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 09, 2021, 04:32:05 PM
Looking good Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: nycjeff on January 09, 2021, 05:22:43 PM
Hello Mike, that's too bad about the roof being the wrong size. I'm surprised that a FOS kit made that mistake. Nothing you can't handle though. Good luck.   Jeff
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 10, 2021, 01:49:29 PM
Thanks for your kind comments Curt and Jeff.
I cut a new roof and covered it before adding the little signs..............
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 10, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
Looks great, Mike.

I really like the wood colour you have used.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 10, 2021, 02:45:22 PM
Mike I agree with Mark. It really has a wood feel.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: MAP on January 11, 2021, 06:25:27 AM
Great progress Mike!
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Post by: Keep It Rusty on January 11, 2021, 08:49:23 AM
Awesome storefronts! Makes me want to pull my kit off the shelf!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ReadingBob on January 11, 2021, 08:49:56 AM
Boy, that was quite a miss on the roof card size.  The store fronts look great Mike!   ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: S&S RR on January 11, 2021, 09:51:43 AM
Mike


Really nice work, it looks great.  Good save on the roof card.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 11, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 10, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
Looks great, Mike.

I really like the wood colour you have used.

Cheers, Mark.
I like it as well. Here is what I used.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 11, 2021, 11:22:15 AM
Thanks Curt, Mark, Craig, Bob and John for your kind comments. As regards the roof part F-603, there is a typo in the instructions as on Page 9 you use this roof for Horvath. On Page 12 you use the same roof for the storefronts. I think the correct roof for the storefronts is F-602 though it does appear on the small side..............
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 14, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Starting the main building Terrien Marine. The walls have been braced, painted, stained and distressed........................
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Jerry on January 15, 2021, 12:21:54 AM
Looks great Mike.  Nice wood cooring also.


Jerry
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Post by: Opa George on January 15, 2021, 12:33:19 PM
Looks very good, Mike. Terrien Marine is one of those really beautiful signature structures.  Good start on it and I'm eager to see it take shape.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 16, 2021, 06:25:20 AM
Thank you so much Jerry and George.
Continuing.............yesterday was a stressful day as my buyer after 2 months and 2 days pulled out. So I have thrown myself back into modelling..............Here are the walls taking shape. As always it seems I'm missing a few windows. Unfortunately my stash is at the other house (140 miles away) and the whole country is in lockdown. >:(
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 16, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Sorry  to hear of the lost sale of the house. The walls look really good.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: deemery on January 16, 2021, 08:50:13 AM
That really sucks to lose your buyer.  (Do you get any down payment that they forfeited?)  Oh well, keep on working on the models. At least in the US, March starts the busy season for real estate.


dave
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Janbouli on January 16, 2021, 09:01:27 AM
Signs looking great Mike . So is it a buyers or sellers market in the UK at the moment ? In the Netherlands , it's a sellers market , houses are sold within a month , usually for more then the asking price. My parents want to go from a house to an apartment, no problem at all selling the house , but in the town they want to stay living in there are only 14 apartments for sale , 11 still have to be built , 1 is a bit shabby , and the other 2 are far over their budget ( they have a healthy budget ) . 
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 16, 2021, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 16, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Sorry  to hear of the lost sale of the house. The walls look really good.
Thanks very much Curt.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 16, 2021, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 16, 2021, 08:50:13 AM
That really sucks to lose your buyer.  (Do you get any down payment that they forfeited?)  Oh well, keep on working on the models. At least in the US, March starts the busy season for real estate.


dave
Not until they sign the contract which they were due to sign that day. The chain broke and they made five families due to exchange really sad.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 16, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 16, 2021, 09:01:27 AM
Signs looking great Mike . So is it a buyers or sellers market in the UK at the moment ? In the Netherlands , it's a sellers market , houses are sold within a month , usually for more then the asking price. My parents want to go from a house to an apartment, no problem at all selling the house , but in the town they want to stay living in there are only 14 apartments for sale , 11 still have to be built , 1 is a bit shabby , and the other 2 are far over their budget ( they have a healthy budget ) .
I am pleased with the signs. I decided to photocopy the yellow one and place on the side of the building as well.
It is a buyer's market. However it works both ways price-wise as you usually are asked for reduced price but then it is expected that you will in turn make a reduced offer for the house you are buying. Ours has been on market for 7 months now but hey ho we had 3 viewings today. So fingers crossed.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 16, 2021, 12:09:37 PM
Continuing.............the walls erected.......
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: sdrees on January 16, 2021, 12:44:01 PM
The signs turned out great Harry.  Nice job.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 16, 2021, 02:03:06 PM
Good luck with a fast new sale. Mike.

The walls and signage look terrific.

New Zealand is like the Netherlands.  Everyone thought the pandemic would slow things down but it has done rather the opposite with houses selling very quickly and typically well above the government valuation.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: deemery on January 16, 2021, 03:59:20 PM
In the US, the trend seems to be less expensive cities, farther out suburbs, and resort locations are hot.  People are realizing they can work from home, and "home" does not have to be in Silicon Valley :-)  In my corner of New Hampshire, I understand a lot of the sales, particularly at the expensive end, are to out-of-state people.  That holds true in my neighborhood, the one house for sale sold quickly above list price to a family from California.


dave
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on January 17, 2021, 09:21:58 AM
Great progress on the build Mike and good luck with the house sale.  8)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 17, 2021, 01:24:09 PM
Thanks Steve, Mark, Dave and Greg for your kind support. As I am a bit stressed at the moment I decided to prep the walls for the Horvath building that adjoins Terrien Marine.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: deemery on January 17, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
That's a bright red.  I remember painting a structure once (The "Silver Plume Store" kit) something like 'caboose red' and being unhappy with the result when I saw the entire structure assembled and sitting on the layout.  Dave Frary recommended toning down primary colors in particular with 10% white, to get a more "scale color" appearance. 

dave
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: MAP on January 18, 2021, 06:33:11 AM
Great progress Mike!  You did a nice job with the signs.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 18, 2021, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: MAP on January 18, 2021, 06:33:11 AM
Great progress Mike!  You did a nice job with the signs.
Thanks very much Mark.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 18, 2021, 06:43:33 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 17, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
That's a bright red.  I remember painting a structure once (The "Silver Plume Store" kit) something like 'caboose red' and being unhappy with the result when I saw the entire structure assembled and sitting on the layout.  Dave Frary recommended toning down primary colors in particular with 10% white, to get a more "scale color" appearance. 

dave
Dave it was always my intention of weathering the walls. Here is the result using chalks from General. I have also doubled up on the sign and added an additional one to the rear that I photocopied.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: S&S RR on January 18, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Mike


This is coming along nicely.  I love all the signs.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: deemery on January 18, 2021, 08:16:53 AM
That weathered down very nicely!  Thanks for the update.


dave
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 18, 2021, 08:58:55 AM
The walls look great weathered, and the signage is great also.
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Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2021, 09:27:10 AM
Mike,

Very nicely done all the way. Looks very good. I love it!

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Oldguy on January 18, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
Coming along nicely. 

Sorry to read about the house thing.  I live in a resort area and the inventory is super low.  More and more resort properties are going condo.  Hopefully there is something else out there.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 18, 2021, 11:57:26 AM
Thanks very much John, Curt, Dave, Tom and Bob for your kind comments. Dead Horse Bay is big kit and I am jumping around as I want to let things to set up before I attempt any more of the build. Horvath is an irregular shape and the edges of two walls need to be altered. There is a plan in the kit and I have married up the walls on the plan and I am allowing them to dry. The apex of the roof needs to added but for now everything is bit fragile especially as to save on materials there is a missing wall or two a la Fos.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 18, 2021, 11:59:05 AM
Jumping back to Terrien I have glued together the inset loading dock. Once again I will allow for drying time...............
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 18, 2021, 12:05:41 PM
Continuing.............the kit has four shacks to make. Shack 2 is made from task board covered by 2x10's. The instructions call for glueing the walls together and then applying 3M tape. I find it is easier to add the tape to the walls when they are flat. I cannot run to 3M tape so I use carpet tape at £1 from my local Poundstore. I also cut out the openings in the tape as from experience it is far harder to remove the excess wood with the tape still applied. Also when applying the 2x10's I start from the bottom and trim each piece on the apex with scissors. Then I start on the next piece from the top using the angle already cut. This saves on wood....................
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 18, 2021, 12:46:51 PM
Some more really nice work, Mike.

I like that refrigeration door - a bit different.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 19, 2021, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 18, 2021, 12:46:51 PM
Some more really nice work, Mike.

I like that refrigeration door - a bit different.

Cheers, Mark.
Thanks very much Mark.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 19, 2021, 12:27:23 PM
Continuing with shack 2......................I covered the walls with stained 2x10's. I then carefully cut out the openings before glueing the walls together. The floor has holes in it for pilings as in the suggested diorama the shack hangs over the edge of the coastline. To ensure the pilings do not come right through the floor I added some card to the inside of the floor.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 19, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
Continuing.............the widows are very fragile and just fit into the frames. I glued them first of all to some acetate. I then cut them out leaving a little acetate at the top and bottom as an aid to glueing them inside the frames. I then framed the windows on the outside with 2x4's and 2x10's.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 19, 2021, 12:35:56 PM
Continuing............I added some 2x6 roof trim and then covered the roof with double sided tape before adding some etched Campbell's aluminium panels. I painted the floor matt black so the plain card would not be noticed when the shack is finally placed on the diorama. Finally I placed a 2x6 as a ridge cap.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 19, 2021, 12:57:33 PM
Continuing....................here is Horvath. As can be seen there are two walls missing and it is an irregular shape. I am going to let the joints dry before moving forward.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 19, 2021, 04:20:50 PM
Very nice modeling Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on January 19, 2021, 05:13:13 PM
Hey Mike:

Very well do so far.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 20, 2021, 05:44:29 AM
Thanks very much Curt and Karl. Continuing........................here are some progress pictures of how the two buildings come together.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on January 20, 2021, 08:23:34 AM
Great progress Mike.....I especially like Shack #2.  8)

Have a safe move and don't forget progress photos on the new master suite and closet.  :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 20, 2021, 09:33:57 AM
The contrast in colors really gives the build eye appeal.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Janbouli on January 20, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
Coming along fine Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 03:11:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on January 20, 2021, 08:23:34 AM
Great progress Mike.....I especially like Shack #2.  8)

Have a safe move and don't forget progress photos on the new master suite and closet.  :)
Thanks Greg. I just want to get the move over but will keep you posted.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 03:11:42 AM
Thanks very mich Curt and Jan.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 03:24:14 AM
Continuing........... the Horvath building is a little bit of a tease. Going back to the storefronts roof 603 was stated as the roof for that building. In the event it did not fit. I discovered it was really meant for Horvath. I had already covered it in rolled roofing and naively thought it would fit Horvath. No. Tick marks are printed on the roof for the placement of the roof tails. I assumed the reverse was the top of the roof and had applied rolled roofing to that side. Wrong! The tick marks are printed on the top side and as the roof is an irregular shape it consequently does not fit. No matter I cut a new roof from card. The apex roof has to be a fine judgement as to fit as it is not a full wall in order to save material (?). Because of the irregular shape the lower roof will not be flat. See gap. The clue here is the bump out which will be placed on top of the roof and this has different length walls. Nothing in the instructions warns the builder of this. So if anyone is building this please be aware. For the meantime I will go on to another part of the kit.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 11:39:14 AM
Continuing...........I have jumped to making The Boiler House. There are wood sections along the side above the metal panelled walls. The wood frames are very delicate. I carefully removed them from their carrier sheet with a single edged blade. Unfortunately I broke one frame and lost one the dividers between the windows. I cut a piece of wood from 1/16 sq stock to replace this. Try as I might I could not get the frame to glue back together correctly. I hit on the idea of using the windows to correct the problem. After glueing them to acetate I cut them out leaving some acetate at the top and bottom of the window. Then using the windows as a guide I used glue top and bottom to fit them into the frame glueing the missing divider between the windows.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 12:10:41 PM
Here are the parts for the Boiler House. I have added the windows to the frames and covered the walls in double sided tape.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 21, 2021, 12:52:51 PM
Continuing.................the roofs, concrete base and metal cladding has been prepped...............
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:02:56 PM
Continuing................. I decided to use the Northeastern "aluminium" cladding for this build. I painted the material light grey and then used a sponge to apply the green before using Bragdon powders to add rust. The inside of the walls were painted black and I dry brushed the inside of the windows with a dirty grey to conceal the fact that there is no interior.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:04:24 PM
Using my double sided carpet tape and applied the panels to the walls while flat.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:05:58 PM
The join between the laser cut windows and the mattboard is rather weak so I used a 2x10 to strengthen the joint.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:07:02 PM
The walls coming together.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:07:49 PM
The boiler house sits on a matt board base.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 23, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
The final pictures. The chimney is a straw with some masking tape strips added and painted matt black. The roofs are very flimsy and I added some bracing to support them.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Opa George on January 23, 2021, 01:15:39 PM
Mike, that boiler house looks really nice.  Good combination of colors.  The straw with tape cast iron chimney is effective, too.  Nice touch.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2021, 02:19:57 PM
Nice build Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Janbouli on January 23, 2021, 02:23:18 PM
Corrugated walls look great Mike , and the chimney is a great idea.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 23, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
Boiler house looks really good, Mike.

I've cut a flashing for stacks penetrating the roof such a this before by cutting a doughnut out of high tack painters tape.  I cut the doughnut a few mm larger than the diameter of the stack and about 2mm smaller.  I then put a number of cut lines going from the inside of the doughnut out 2mm, and cut all the way through once.  The doughnut can then be manipulated around the stack and worked into the roof and and all the slits into the stack with a toothpick.  I then cut a 2mm band and rap that over the slits around the stack, lapping it slightly at the back.  Paint, weather and its done.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:10:28 PM
Mike,

Boiler house is very well done. I enjoy this thread and you are doing a fantastic job.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Opa George on January 23, 2021, 01:15:39 PM
Mike, that boiler house looks really nice.  Good combination of colors.  The straw with tape cast iron chimney is effective, too.  Nice touch.

--Opa George
Thanks George I am very pleased with the way it turned out. The hole for the chimney was made before I glued the roof in place otherwise it would have been difficult to achieve on such a fragile structure.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on January 23, 2021, 02:19:57 PM
Nice build Mike.
Thanks Curt for following along.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 23, 2021, 02:23:18 PM
Corrugated walls look great Mike , and the chimney is a great idea.
Thanks Jan I am pleased how the walls turned out. I was in two minds as to use the Campbell's product instead.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on January 23, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
Boiler house looks really good, Mike.

I've cut a flashing for stacks penetrating the roof such a this before by cutting a doughnut out of high tack painters tape.  I cut the doughnut a few mm larger than the diameter of the stack and about 2mm smaller.  I then put a number of cut lines going from the inside of the doughnut out 2mm, and cut all the way through once.  The doughnut can then be manipulated around the stack and worked into the roof and and all the slits into the stack with a toothpick.  I then cut a 2mm band and rap that over the slits around the stack, lapping it slightly at the back.  Paint, weather and its done.

Cheers, Mark.
Thanks for tip Mark, it was a pain trying to fit the chimney into the sloping roof. I will give it a try.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 23, 2021, 05:10:28 PM
Mike,

Boiler house is very well done. I enjoy this thread and you are doing a fantastic job.

Tom  ;D
Thanks Tom, I am trying my best. The kit comes with an A4 sheet of colour pictures and states that other photos are on the website. Unfortunately the kit is 4 years old and those photos no longer appear there. I think I might have a problem with Bandit's Roost when I get to it.
Mike ;)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 09:26:15 AM
Continuing..................on to Shack #3. Here are the parts. I have already committed a faux pas by joining the lower and upper walls with bracing before painting them. Oops!
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 12:54:02 PM
Continuing............I painted all the parts.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
The double doors were glazed together on a piece of acetate slightly bigger than two side by side. Then I applied glue to the acetate and it held the doors nicely in place.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 12:56:55 PM
Windows were fitted and the walls were distressed a little.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 12:58:15 PM
The walls are starting to be erected.............to be continued.................
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 24, 2021, 03:00:36 PM
That looks very nice Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 24, 2021, 06:02:23 PM
Thanks very much Curt.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 05:28:06 AM
Continuing.................The walls are glued together. This is the side that hangs over the cliff edge. It should be noted that on sheet H bracing is shown as the full length of the walls. This is incorrect as note the shavings in the picture as I had to cut the bracing in order to fit the upper wall and floor. No big deal............
Mike


Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 11:00:41 AM
Continuing...............the deck was covered in stained 2x10's, rolled roofing to the roof and the support frame for the cantilevered end was built from 2x6's. A business name duly framed was added to the front of the building. Final pictures.................
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 11:09:48 AM
Onward to Shack #4 - here are parts awaiting construction to commence.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 12:40:11 PM
Continuing................ here are the walls painted. The green is very bright but with weathering it should look OK.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 12:41:03 PM
I covered the roof after painting the edges green.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 12:41:58 PM
The walls were weathered with A&I and pastels.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 25, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
The sign template for the wall. I tried painting it but the paint seeped under the template. Instead I scrubed the signage off and started again using a Letraset Promarker pen.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ReadingBob on January 25, 2021, 03:09:48 PM
Nice job with the sign.  Good idea with the marker too!  I had one No Wake sign on a small FOS kit of the month club build that took me five attempts until I was happy with the results.  It's a good thing for me that those cheap craft store acrylics scrub off pretty well.   :D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on January 25, 2021, 03:27:48 PM
Mike,

Signs like this are hard to get right when using wet paint. I've found that adding a few layers of "stippling on the paint" keeps it from running under the template.

Nice job and recovery on the sign.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Opa George on January 26, 2021, 05:33:35 AM
Looking nice, Mike. Agreed that those stencils can be tricky.  My rule of thumb is to only stipple paint at one-half what I would normally think is needed.  Yours looks very good.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: NKP768 on January 26, 2021, 07:47:03 AM
Nice recovery on the sign Mike -looks great

Doug
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 26, 2021, 11:12:59 AM
Thanks very much Bob, Tom, George and Doug for your kind comments. I affixed the windows into the walls using a larger piece of acetate to hold the delicate items in place. The little building was finished off for now. When it is placed in the doirama it will be on stilts overlooking the cliff face. Dowels will fit into the base.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 26, 2021, 02:37:03 PM
Great job with the stenciling Mike. I haven't tried that technique yet.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on January 26, 2021, 03:09:41 PM
Hey Mike:

Just beautiful so far. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 30, 2021, 12:45:39 PM
Thanks very much Curt and Karl for your kind comments.
Back to the main buildings. I fitted the roof to the red building Horvath and constructed the little shed that sits on the sloping roof. The shed will need a bit of weathering..........
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 30, 2021, 12:49:20 PM
Continung........... I fitted the rest of the doors and constructed the little walk-thru for the second floor.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 30, 2021, 01:28:45 PM
Looking really great, Mike.

The signage came up very well.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on January 30, 2021, 05:51:46 PM
Looks great Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Oldguy on January 30, 2021, 09:52:02 PM
Looking good.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on January 31, 2021, 03:18:03 AM
Hey Mike:

looks just beautiful so far. Love the signs.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on January 31, 2021, 08:20:50 AM
Mike,

Great job on all the signs and buildings.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 31, 2021, 09:15:45 AM
Thanks Mark, Curt, Bob, Karl and Tom for following along.  Here are the elements of the fairly complicated tower.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Keep It Rusty on January 31, 2021, 09:16:08 AM
Coming together nicely!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: deemery on January 31, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
Interesting roof lines on that building, particularly the rooftop shed.  You'll probably want to think about how water drains and flows down the roof when it's time to weather the structure.


dave
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Jerry on January 31, 2021, 09:22:11 AM
Mike that is really coming along nicely.


Great work.


Jerry
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 31, 2021, 12:33:16 PM
Thank you Craig and Jerry.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on January 31, 2021, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: deemery on January 31, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
Interesting roof lines on that building, particularly the rooftop shed.  You'll probably want to think about how water drains and flows down the roof when it's time to weather the structure.


dave
Yes it is an unusual design for a roof. The little shed's walls are all irregular to take into account that the roof slopes in two different directions just to make things difficult. :(
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 02, 2021, 10:27:16 AM
Continung..................the tower assembly on the Terrien building takes a lot of patience and a fair bit of modelling time - in my case about 5 hours. It is constructed in two parts.
Part One:The clapboard walls are joined to the floor. Corner trim is then threaded through holes in the floor. I painted the trim white first and had to sand it down in order for the trim to pass through the holes. The arched windows are very fragile. I decided to glue the acetate to them before removing them carefully with a single edged blade from their carrier sheet. These were then glued between the corner trim before adding a wooden arch to the top of each window. This was then capped with three layers of wood and card.
Part Two:
Four supports link by tab and slot to form the interior of the mansard roof. The window spaces are formed on the four sides which I painted white before adding the outer card. The four windows were glazed with acetate and carefully glued into the window slots. The shingles were added using double sided tape. At this stage a beer or a Pepsi might be in order! I then covered the mansard roof one side at a time. The job was very fiddly. Tip: the item is quite small and some of the shingles are just a quarter of an inch long. I found that by holding a craft knife down across the window area I was able to manipulate the shingles better. The first two rows are easy under the window as they go right across. The rows either side of the window are harder to do as they are very small and need to line up with the other side so once you cleared the top of the window the next row across is level. The roof is then capped with thick card which I painted celery green to represent copper. A roof hatch was added to the middle of the roof before adding the wrought iron trim. Tip: I painted the trim while it was in the carrier sheet. Big mistake as it was very difficult to cut out afterwards. Once again it is very delicate and I would suggest you glue the four sides to the roof first before painting it copper.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 02, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
Very nice Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 02, 2021, 01:45:01 PM
Looking good, Mike.

I wonder whether shingling the roof while still in its 2-D form would have been possible?  Then trimming the shingles at the edges and window openings and then assembling?  I think that's how I would approach this if scratchbuilding.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Oldguy on February 02, 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:39:21 AM
Mike,
The build is coming together !
Hope your house sale and move to the new location makes great progress as this build does.
Tommy
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 04, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 02, 2021, 01:45:01 PM
Looking good, Mike.

I wonder whether shingling the roof while still in its 2-D form would have been possible?  Then trimming the shingles at the edges and window openings and then assembling?  I think that's how I would approach this if scratchbuilding.

Cheers, Mark.
Yes you are probably right. I just dumbly followed the instructions. The cardboard former for the roof is a very tight fit over the window frames and it took some effort to glue the four sides together. If you shingled it flat you might have to put flashing on all four corners to disguise the joins.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 04, 2021, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on February 02, 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Very nice
Thanks very much Bob. Good luck with Majestic, I made that kit 20 years ago or so it seems.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 04, 2021, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on February 03, 2021, 12:39:21 AM
Mike,
The build is coming together !
Hope your house sale and move to the new location makes great progress as this build does.
Tommy
Thanks for your very kind words Tommy.  The house sale is bit of a rollercoaster ride at the best of times but the pandemic certainly slows things down. We are hoping to complete on 22nd fingers crossed. BTW love your SRMW builds. I am planning one of my railway rooms in the new house to be just full of SRMW, FSM, Bar Mills and FOS builds. Cannot wait!

Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 04, 2021, 12:05:15 PM
Continuing.............the roof on the main building Terrien is supposed to be covered in rolled roofing. A few shingles are provided in the kit  to apply in a few patches then rolled roofing added so it appears as it has been ripped away.  I am not a great fan of rolled roofing. There are economic reasons for it but..............So I have decided to dig into my stash and shingle the entire roof. Just to complicate matters the roof has 5 small dormers and 1 large one. It is suggested to glue the dormers down and then shingle/roll roof. However I have found it easier to add one dormer at a time. Cut all the intervening shingles the correct length and apply them to the roof and then add a second dormer etc...............BTW I have found it easier to add the shingles before glueing the roof to the building.

Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 04, 2021, 01:40:24 PM
Looking good, Mike.

I like the idea of shingling the entire roof.  I was doing some of that yesterday.  It seems to me there is far too much rolled roofing used in kits these days.  Having said that when I bought my shingles recently I was amazed by how few I got for the money.  I'm not sure why they are so expensive.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 04, 2021, 02:57:31 PM
Nice looking roof.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on February 04, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
Best choice Mike  8) .....the roof will look like the real thing. Roll roofing on a structure like that should just not be done, it isn't as long lasting a solution as a shingle or metal roof system would be.

Are you ready for the move? We'll keep our fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: craftsmankits on February 05, 2021, 09:41:19 PM
Hi Mike,

Enjoying your progress on this kit.  I've built this kit myself, and would advise caution when you begin building the porch portion that supports the small covered outcropping from Terrien Marine.  The entire porch is one piece of laser cut wood, roughly 2 and 5/8 inches long, and mine was cut so thin, I broke off a few pieces simply trying to remove it.  Once free of the 'sprue' I would suggest impregnating the entire assembly with thinned wood glue, or be prepared to rebuild the entire thing from 2 x 6's.  The laser cutting left it very fragile, almost useless. 

At least, this was my experience.

Keep up the good work, Mark
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 06, 2021, 04:29:10 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 04, 2021, 01:40:24 PM
Looking good, Mike.

I like the idea of shingling the entire roof.  I was doing some of that yesterday.  It seems to me there is far too much rolled roofing used in kits these days.  Having said that when I bought my shingles recently I was amazed by how few I got for the money.  I'm not sure why they are so expensive.

Cheers, Mark.
Absolutley agree there is too much rolled roofing (actually A4 paper) used in a lot of kits and shingles are too expensive per se.
Mike

Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 06, 2021, 04:29:53 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 04, 2021, 02:57:31 PM
Nice looking roof.
Thanks very much Curt. It takes longer to do but should be worth it in the end.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 06, 2021, 04:33:44 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 04, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
Best choice Mike  8) .....the roof will look like the real thing. Roll roofing on a structure like that should just not be done, it isn't as long lasting a solution as a shingle or metal roof system would be.

Are you ready for the move? We'll keep our fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly!
Thanks Greg. Totally agree on the roof choice.
The house move is bit of a roller coaster ride at the moment. After two surveys and three visits from builder friends, the buyer's solicitor is now quering whether there are any unknown covenants related to my house............We are keeping our fingers crossed for the 22nd.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 06, 2021, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: craftsmankits on February 05, 2021, 09:41:19 PM
Hi Mike,

Enjoying your progress on this kit.  I've built this kit myself, and would advise caution when you begin building the porch portion that supports the small covered outcropping from Terrien Marine.  The entire porch is one piece of laser cut wood, roughly 2 and 5/8 inches long, and mine was cut so thin, I broke off a few pieces simply trying to remove it.  Once free of the 'sprue' I would suggest impregnating the entire assembly with thinned wood glue, or be prepared to rebuild the entire thing from 2 x 6's.  The laser cutting left it very fragile, almost useless. 

At least, this was my experience.

Keep up the good work, Mark

Mark thank you. Yes my porch was broken still on the sprue in the box when it came so I will try and repair it first. I think there is an upper limit to how much you can laser a part before it becomes too fragile. One of the two side Freight door balconies is also broken...............Thanks for following.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on February 06, 2021, 08:32:21 AM
Hey Mike:

Roof looks just great so far. Can't wait to see more.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 11:26:14 AM
Continuing.........the roof is taking a lot of my time to get right. There was a gap between the main roof and the sub roof between it and Horvath. I have had to add a lot of bracing to the underside and bracing to the corners to Terrien to correct this. The other annoying thing has been trying to get the five small dormers to sit correctly. No directions in the kit. But I have shaved the bottom of the front walls to a 45 degree angle and added bracing to the inside of the side dormer walls and hopefully in the fullness oof time this will sit correctly on the roof.
Meanwhile I looked at the laser part for the deck of the front entry on the seconf floor of Terrien. As previously mentioned this laser part is very fragile and arrived damaged in the box. It is broken at the right end.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 11:27:50 AM
Using a single edged blade I carefully cut the part from the fret.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 11:31:04 AM
The right handside is broken. In order to prevent any further damage when gluing it to the building I decided to glue 2x10's to either end. I will let the glue set up before I attempt to attach it to the wall under the entry.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 12:33:13 PM
Continuing......................There are some freight doors to be prepared for one side of the building.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 12:38:26 PM
The doors and hinges are made of cream laserboard. I stained them first with A&I and then used my Derwent pencils to colour them. I found it easier to apply the hinges while the doors were still in the fret. The small hinges tend to be cut and then fly off into the distance. How do I know that! I added the doors to the building and then the laser cut balconies. I will let them set up overnight before adding the railings and support pieces.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 07, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
Looks great Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Keep It Rusty on February 07, 2021, 02:13:57 PM
Very cool. Liking your progress with this!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 07, 2021, 06:02:24 PM
Curt and Caig thanks vey much.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 09, 2021, 10:36:02 AM
Continuing................remember the half wall of an apex on Horvath. It is difficult to figure out where to position it. It came back to bite me!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 09, 2021, 10:44:22 AM
A roof is balanced between this and taskboard roof support which is attached to the wall on Terrien. When it came to fitting the Horvath roof the roof support was higher than the apex roof. Anyone wanting to build this kit (currently selling at $540 on Ebay) should add some scrap wood to the apex to form a full height wall measured against the height of the taskboard roof support.I decided in the end to carefully carve a small bit of the height of the taskboard roof support. It was not easy to do as with the balconies already applied to the otherside of Terrien I could not hold the building down flat on a surface. Carefully holding the building in midair I used a NEW blade to cut a little bit off.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 09, 2021, 10:45:51 AM
After gluing the roof down overnight I am pleased the roof looks level.............
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 09, 2021, 12:05:55 PM
It looks great Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ReadingBob on February 09, 2021, 01:03:01 PM
Wow!  Quite a few challenges thrown you way in this one Mike but you're doing your usual stellar job in working through them.  It's looking really good so far!
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 09, 2021, 01:07:25 PM
Looking really good, Mike.

That is one weird roof!  Although I do think I remember having to do something similar on one of my scratch-builds.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 05:42:34 PM
Mike,

Fantastic build my friend. You make it look so easy getting through the challenges.

Very well done.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 07, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
Looks great Mike.
Thanks very much Curt.
Mike :)

Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on February 09, 2021, 01:03:01 PM
Wow!  Quite a few challenges thrown you way in this one Mike but you're doing your usual stellar job in working through them.  It's looking really good so far!
Yes there are few challenges hopefully I will overcome them. Thanks very much Bob.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 09, 2021, 01:07:25 PM
Looking really good, Mike.

That is one weird roof!  Although I do think I remember having to do something similar on one of my scratch-builds.

Cheers, Mark.
I am not sure why you would design a kit with such a difficult roof. Thanks for following Mark.

Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 09, 2021, 05:42:34 PM
Mike,

Fantastic build my friend. You make it look so easy getting through the challenges.

Very well done.

Tom  ;D
Thank you Tom for your very generous words, it is much appreciated.
Mike  :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 10, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
Continuing............a little more done today with the two staircases. I found I had to trim one riser of each set of stairs to get a good fit. For the roof one I found it easier to build on my workbench rather than on the roof. I used double sided tape on the bottom of the deck to keep the risers in place and then added the steps. Once completed I found I had to adjust the height by removing one step in order to line up the deck with the door.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: S&S RR on February 10, 2021, 10:03:41 PM
Mike


Great work, I'm following along with great interest.  This one is on my build list - it's currently sitting on my layout where I can study it along with the other kits I have for my waterfront scene.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on February 11, 2021, 01:08:26 AM
Hey Mike:

Looks just beautiful so far. Love the colors you are using. Keep the pics flowing. Watching with much interest.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 11, 2021, 05:12:38 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 10, 2021, 10:03:41 PM
Mike


Great work, I'm following along with great interest.  This one is on my build list - it's currently sitting on my layout where I can study it along with the other kits I have for my waterfront scene.
Thanks John. If when you come to build this kit please bear in mind that both the main roofs on Horvath and Terrien need a lot of bracing. Horvath balances at three points only as there is no support at the front. Bearing in mind the roof has to support the stairway and two dormers it tends to warp without a lot of bracing. The same with the Terrien roof which has six dormers and the tower to support.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 11, 2021, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 11, 2021, 01:08:26 AM
Hey Mike:

Looks just beautiful so far. Love the colors you are using. Keep the pics flowing. Watching with much interest.

Karl
Thanks for your support and kind comments Karl.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 11, 2021, 10:29:10 AM
Mistake alert.............I have discovered that I have 4 parts 106 left in a fret. These are not mentioned in the instructions. However they appear to be parts for the Horvath Cornice. The instructions advise to follow the construction process on Template E. However parts 106 are not identified on this sheet. I would suggest if you are going to build this kit at a future date to locate Template E now and write on it "add parts 106".
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on February 11, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
Mike,

I found one of the FOS kits with the same issue. Can't remember which one at the moment.

However, great tip for those building this one at a later date.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on February 12, 2021, 08:48:55 AM
Good progress Mike.....the building are looking good.  8)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 12, 2021, 12:55:33 PM
Thanks very much Tom and Greg, it is much appreciated. ;D Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on February 13, 2021, 09:42:05 AM
Hey Mike:

Looks just great. Can't wait to see it done.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 13, 2021, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 13, 2021, 09:42:05 AM
Hey Mike:

Looks just great. Can't wait to see it done.

Karl
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Thanks Karl I am on the last mile  I hope..............thanks for yours comments.
Mike ;)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on February 13, 2021, 11:25:15 PM
hey Mike:

You are quite welcome as always.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 14, 2021, 01:13:21 PM
Continuing................the coal bin has been completed. I used Campbell's corrugated suitably etched and weathered.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 14, 2021, 01:18:42 PM
Continung.............I completed the staircases at the front of the building. I broke the little metal ladder that connects the staircase on the Horvath roof with the lower deck. So I scratchbuilt a wooden one instead. I think it looks OK. The rest of the railings were slowly added. I found it best to leave the posts to set up overnight before adding the railings cut to fit.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 14, 2021, 01:20:25 PM
Continuing.........two loading docks and a little ramp needed to be constructed.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 14, 2021, 02:16:37 PM
Great looking structure Mike.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Opa George on February 14, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
Good looking progress on that structure, Mike.  That is an odd stair/platform arrangement with the covered shed in the middle, presumably an entrance to the second floor.  Quirky, but I like quirky. 

--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Janbouli on February 14, 2021, 04:51:39 PM
Coming along fine Mike .
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 05:16:07 PM
Mike,

Love the outside staircase, great job on it.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on February 15, 2021, 01:34:31 AM
Looking good, Mike.

When I scratch build stairs I cut 4"x4" squares our of the end of the treads where the posts will go.  I then cut my posts longer to get fixing onto the side of the stringer.  this gives far better fixing and is more prototypical.  You can imagine you would want those posts to be pretty strong - so in this way you could add a couple of coach bolts attaching the post to the stringer.  Easy to model with nut-bolt-washer castings for added detail.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 12:01:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on February 14, 2021, 02:16:37 PM
Great looking structure Mike.
Thanks Curt for following.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: Opa George on February 14, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
Good looking progress on that structure, Mike.  That is an odd stair/platform arrangement with the covered shed in the middle, presumably an entrance to the second floor.  Quirky, but I like quirky. 

--Opa George
Yes it is quirky. What follows are the wrap up shots as I to clear my desk for the move. Thanks for your comments.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on February 14, 2021, 05:16:07 PM
Mike,

Love the outside staircase, great job on it.

Tom  ;D
Thanks Tom it is not perfect as Mark points out. I was in a bit of a rush to get it done in time for the move.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on February 15, 2021, 01:34:31 AM
Looking good, Mike.

When I scratch build stairs I cut 4"x4" squares our of the end of the treads where the posts will go.  I then cut my posts longer to get fixing onto the side of the stringer.  this gives far better fixing and is more prototypical.  You can imagine you would want those posts to be pretty strong - so in this way you could add a couple of coach bolts attaching the post to the stringer.  Easy to model with nut-bolt-washer castings for added detail.

Cheers, Mark.
Thanks Mark. You are right it is not perfect. I'm afraid I was in a bit of rush to get this building done. Unfortunately it would take a bit more time to correct it right now as I am packing up everything for my move. The last few weeks have been very stressful with several last minute demands from my purchaser.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 15, 2021, 12:17:14 PM
Final pictures until I create a diorama. We are moving house on Monday. Unfortunately the seller has just advised that he will not be ready in time. So we will need to move to our second home and wait it out. This means I will be off the radar a bit but as Arnie would say "I will be back!".
I have not glued down the tower yet as I need to transport this baby to Somerset in the boot (trunk) of my car. The tower is more than a little delicate...............
Thanks everybody for watching. I intend combining Dead Horse Bay, Execution Rocks, Oyster Hill, Bandit's Roost, Cundy Harbour and Seabiscuits into one diorama on my planned layout. I hope to post some pictures one day. I have only to complete Bandit's Roost as all the others are now built.
Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: PRR Modeler on February 15, 2021, 02:03:28 PM
Awesome build Mike
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: Opa George on February 15, 2021, 07:19:22 PM
Beautiful result, Mike.  Looks absolutely top shelf.  Can't wait to see you put all those super kits together--that will make an awesome diorama.

--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 16, 2021, 08:46:53 AM
Thanks very much Curt and George.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on February 16, 2021, 08:49:17 AM
Great job on the build Mike..... 8)  Have a safe move and y'all take care of yourselves.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 16, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
Thanks very much Greg we are looking forward to a slower pace of life/
Mike ;)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: postalkarl on February 17, 2021, 06:45:42 PM
Hey Mike:

Very well done.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: GPdemayo on February 18, 2021, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: madharry on February 16, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
Thanks very much Greg we are looking forward to a slower pace of life/
Mike ;)


Right.....with all the new layout you have to build and the new master bedroom remodel, it doesn't look like a slower pace to me.  ;D
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 18, 2021, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on February 18, 2021, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: madharry on February 16, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
Thanks very much Greg we are looking forward to a slower pace of life/
Mike ;)


Right.....with all the new layout you have to build and the new master bedroom remodel, it doesn't look like a slower pace to me.  ;D
Hi Greg,
Personally I will not be any slower. However Taunton, though it is the county town of Somerset, is actually population wise smaller than Maidenhead. Also Somerset has 19% the density of the population of Berkshire. Folk speak and think slower to my mind. Dreckly (directly) is the local speak for manyana. I plan to use one room for British layouts and the other for American. I will keep in touch when I eventually get there.
Mike ;)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: madharry on February 18, 2021, 01:13:34 PM
Quote from: postalkarl on February 17, 2021, 06:45:42 PM
Hey Mike:

Very well done.

Karl
Thanks very much for your support Karl.
Mike :)
Title: Re: FOS Scale Models "Dead Horse Bay" HO kit #230
Post by: NKP768 on February 18, 2021, 04:39:02 PM
Awesome job Mike....good luck with the move

Doug