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Title: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 06, 2021, 09:24:45 AM
Thanks to an amazing deal I scored for a number of SierraWest O-Scale kits, I've been toying around in the dark side recently. Don't worry, I'm staying firmly planted in HO (waaaay too much invested), but I'm enjoying dipping my toe in the larger scale now and then.

One of the many things that whisked me away with these particular kits are the details originally from CHB Models. Then a thought took over.

What if we could produce high-end, complex details like those from CHB on 3D printers? All you'd need to do is separate the parts with enough experience to know they would not only print well but also construct well. Not forgetting, of course, access to a talented 3D artist (not me!). Well, I had both, so I commissioned a friend to prototype, in 3D, the original Brown & Sharpe Universal Miller machine that CHB produced.

After a few short days of back and forth, sculpting and cutting, we landed here:

(https://keepitrusty.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/img_6021.jpg)

Detailed as this 3D model is, some parts are easier to source than print. Like feed belts and coolant pipes (paper and brass rod). We broke down the machine into almost 25 separate pieces and then I scaled the machine for O-Scale and printed it using my custom high-res print settings on my brand new Elegoo Saturn. Everything printed extremely well.

(https://keepitrusty.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/img_6049.jpg)

(https://keepitrusty.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/img_6050.jpg)

In the construction, tiny details like the handles were the difficult to deal with but not impossible. In O-Scale a single handle measures around 2mm. Whilst the resin was stable, working with these small details takes time and a magnifier — but it's all about the details and things like this make the machine POP with life so they are worth the effort.

In painting, I used a machine-green base, dark silver highlights, silver leaf "Rub N' Buff" on top of that, and then weathered with AK Interactive enamels and oils including Engine Grime, Engine Oil and Axle Grease.

Apart from the the hydraulic hose (wire cable), the coolant pipe (.015 brass rod), the over-arm (.072 brass rod) and the feed belt (brown construction paper) everything you see here was 3D printed. Essentially, the entire machine.

I know the paint job isn't the best, but the quality of the machine speaks for itself. Even those tiny handles came out looking perfect.

I'm already producing more machinery (not CHB) and may make some of them available for a limited run, should there be any interest. Let me know below!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: S&S RR on May 06, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
Craig


Wow - Looks great!  When will we see the HO scale version?
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 06, 2021, 10:16:43 AM
Thanks, John!

HO is down the road, as it will require more fine-tuning to produce, but I do plan on attempting it at least!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: fbernard65 on May 06, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Craig,

Outstanding.  Looks amazing.

Frank
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: GPdemayo on May 06, 2021, 01:12:17 PM
The detail is wonderful Craig, keep the photos coming .....great job.  8)
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 06, 2021, 01:23:54 PM
Thanks, all! Glad you like it. Excited to move on to other prototype machinery now that this has proven the processes worth!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: deemery on May 06, 2021, 06:58:17 PM
I'd be interested in an early (belt driven) HO turret lathe.  My machine shop could use one of those...  I think Model Masterpieces did one, but those are next-to-impossible to find.


dave
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 06, 2021, 07:42:37 PM
A lathe is in the pipeline, for sure.

I've been searching a neat prototype to use, so if you've seen a design you like feel free to share!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: SteveCuster on May 06, 2021, 08:06:21 PM
Looks really great Craig! I love what you're doing with the 3d printing. I'm going to pick up a resin printer soon so I can experiment on my own a bit.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: cuse on May 06, 2021, 08:24:32 PM
That finishing work is just nuts! Really really great work!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: deemery on May 06, 2021, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Keep it Rusty on May 06, 2021, 07:42:37 PM
A lathe is in the pipeline, for sure.

I've been searching a neat prototype to use, so if you've seen a design you like feel free to share!


This site will keep you busy for the next decade!  http://vintagemachinery.org/home.aspx (http://vintagemachinery.org/home.aspx)


dave
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 07, 2021, 12:39:16 AM
Steve — thanks so much. You'll love 3D printing once you get the knack. Take a beat, but it's worth the effort! I recommend Elegoo as a brand now!

John — appreciate those words! I'll be putting a lot more effort in the next machine which I'll be posting next week sometime.

Dave — love that site. It's been my got to for all the machines I have in the pipeline. Thanks for sharing, anyway!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: postalkarl on May 08, 2021, 04:05:40 PM
Hey Craig:

Beautiful job on both of those. Love the coloring.

Karl
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 08, 2021, 07:56:53 PM
Thanks, Karl! More very soon.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Oldguy on May 08, 2021, 09:41:17 PM
Dam, but those are good.  Actually, they are great.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 08, 2021, 09:52:01 PM
Thanks, Bob!

Can't wait to show off the new machine next week!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 17, 2021, 11:42:03 AM
Life and work absorbed me for most of last week, but I got my new machine done!

This is based off a Rockford Open-Sided Planer from the 1940's. I have also produced a hydraulic pump unit that sits alongside the machine, and I'll get that finished and upload more photos of the whole setup very soon.

(https://keepitrusty.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/7.jpg)

Print time is 3.5 hours for the entire machine, pump unit included. The entire model is 23 separate pieces, with the bed and arms fully moveable, if so desired.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2021, 11:52:52 AM
Wow.  I mean WOW!  That's amazing.   :o  ;D
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: cuse on May 17, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 17, 2021, 11:52:52 AM
Wow.  I mean WOW!  That's amazing.   :o ;D


Cant say it any better
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: vinceg on May 17, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
Man, so much to look at - the shiny metal surfaces, the faded industrial green paint, the wear on the smooth painted surfaces, the worn paint exposing the metal underneath, and of course, all the intricate details. Such a joy to look at. I can only imagine this, in a shop, part of a building, part of a diorama, sitting on a layout. How could one possibly drink all that in?
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 17, 2021, 02:03:42 PM
Bob, John, Vince... thanks so much! So glad you guys like it. Appreciate your keen eye, Vince! It's that detail that keeps me coming back time and again to these machines. More machines soon, too!

As this is my own, I'm thinking on producing this machine as a limited-run kit. And I'll be experimenting with it in HO.

Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: fbernard65 on May 17, 2021, 09:03:05 PM
Craig,

This is another amazing model.

Frank
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 17, 2021, 11:52:19 PM
Thanks for your continued support, Frank!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Zephyrus52246 on May 18, 2021, 07:14:31 AM
Wonderful work on the machines.  Such detail and realistic finishes.


Jeff
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Bernd on May 18, 2021, 08:54:57 AM
Craig,

Having worked in a machine shop for over 30 years I have to say you captured what a machine looks like after years of use in a greasy, oily, dusty environment. Nice job.

Bernd
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Oldguy on May 18, 2021, 09:54:32 AM
Nailed it!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 18, 2021, 10:35:38 AM
Jeff, Bernd, Bob — thanks! There's something about the oil and grease and heavy use that just keeps me coming back to these little suckers!

Already at work on the next.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: GPdemayo on May 18, 2021, 11:01:13 AM
The latest looks great Craig.....if only we could get wood and metal working machines with this detail in HO.  8)
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 18, 2021, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 18, 2021, 11:01:13 AM
The latest looks great Craig.....if only we could get wood and metal working machines with this detail in HO.  8)

Thanks, Greg. And standby, I'm gonna run a test with the Planer in HO soon.
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: GPdemayo on May 18, 2021, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: Keep it Rusty on May 18, 2021, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 18, 2021, 11:01:13 AM
The latest looks great Craig.....if only we could get wood and metal working machines with this detail in HO.  8)

Thanks, Greg. And standby, I'm gonna run a test with the Planer in HO soon.


Sounds like a plan....put me on the list.  :)
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 18, 2021, 01:44:37 PM
  Amazing modeling and finishing Craig !
Tommy
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: Keep It Rusty on May 18, 2021, 03:36:19 PM
Thanks, Tom! Really appreciate it.

And Greg, I'll be sure to keep you posted here :)
Title: Re: Make it Oily (O-Scale Machinery)
Post by: S&S RR on May 18, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
Craig


Fantastic work, as I said before. I'm really interested in seeing this in HO - please keep us posted on your rest results.