Lamson bash

Started by deemery, November 28, 2024, 03:28:19 PM

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deemery

I think I'll try the South River Model Works Lamson & Goodnow project that I've been pondering for several years.  This will be a bash, both to make the main mill larger (kit looks too compressed to me) and to fit in the available space.

Here's the hole:
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You can see, I still need to do rough scenery to the left side.  The green tape marks the main line.  There's a spur into the property, you can see its location on my template as the pink chalk running roughly in the middle of this photo:
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I cut some rosin paper to the approximate shape of the hole.  I used pink sidewalk chalk to run over the location of the siding and the main line. 

Then I put the template on a workbench (specially cleared off for the occasion ;D ) and started to ponder the structures:
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My thought is to use the back wall sections, which are about an inch longer, instead of the front wall sections for the front of the mill.  This will add about 2", making the total length of the main mill about 11 1/2".  Note the end of the black ruler on the left of the white foundation template, that's the new end of the mill.  I can put that small (2") annex shown on the right of the mill on either side, or omit it all together.  I'll create a blank rear wall, which won't be visible.  The office building will fit to the left, and I'll construct a woodshed or something on the right side where there's some space to fill.  I could do a boiler house and make the end of the spur coal delivery...

I'll probably do some vertical arrangement, too, i.e. putting the mill or the office or both higher than track level. 

The next step will be to scan the actual wall sections and do a full-size mock-up on foamcore. 

At least this is my current thinking...

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

ReadingBob

Quote from: deemery on November 28, 2024, 03:28:19 PMI think I'll try the South River Model Works Lamson & Goodnow project that I've been pondering for several years.  This will be a bash, both to make the main mill larger (kit looks too compressed to me) and to fit in the available space.

Larger?  Holy cow!  ;D

I'm following along.  I gave this one up, much to my chagrin, because it takes up way more space than I figured I'd ever have available.  But I sure did want to build it.  It's a great looking kit.
Bob Butts
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deemery

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The finished mills (2 different locations) are generally 11-14" long.  Anything less and they just don't look right to me.  That's what I get for living in a NE mill town...   These are scratchbuilt
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And these are RDA kits with both walls on the visible side to double the length.
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(That stretch in front of the stone mill down towards the cobblestone is where I started scenery today.)

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

Mark Dalrymple

Looking forward to this one, Dave.

Cheers, Mark.

deemery

I scanned the plaster parts, printed out the scans, and then cut the plaster pieces.  I calculated the size of the proposed mill, and measured the length using the actual plaster pieces.  
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Then I cut pieces of foam core to the correct size, making sure I accommodated the thickness of the foam core (which is just about the same as the thickness of the plaster pieces.)  I did a double-check to make sure I got that right (doesn't have to be 100%, but should be pretty close.)
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Then I assembled the main mill building onto self-stick foamcore.  I cut wood bracing and used a thin coat of a solvent glue to attach to the foam core, I figure I'll reuse those as bracing for the plaster pieces.  Then I did a test fit of the main mill on location.
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Tomorrow I'll assemble the other boxes, and do another check.  I need to decide if I'll do this as a diorama on a base on the workbench.  If so, I'll have to figure out a material for the base that will hold the 12x18 footprint, be strong enough to hold the plaster structures, but not be too thick when it's set on the layout.

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

Jim Donovan

Dave I can't see the latest photos you posted. Is anyone else having this issue or just me?

Jim
Holland & Odessa Railroad

Zephyrus52246

I see them fine.  Looks like an ambitious kitbash. 

Jeff

deemery

Quote from: Jim Donovan on November 29, 2024, 07:20:50 PMDave I can't see the latest photos you posted. Is anyone else having this issue or just me?

Jim
I've noticed that sometimes various forums have delays where photos aren't visible after posting, but they usually show up a couple hours later.  I'm not sure why that is, it does feel strange to me as a software property.

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

Jim Donovan

Hi Dave;

I am able to see the pictures if I click on the white area where they should be, very odd I will have Craig look at it if he can.  Anyhow I did see them and what a build this is, great job.

Jim
Holland & Odessa Railroad

deemery

A question for those of you who have built SRMW kits:  Is it worth digging out/opening the windows?  Or did you paint the window well black and install the window castings (with glazing)?  How did that come out?

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

ACL1504

Quote from: deemery on November 30, 2024, 09:55:51 AMA question for those of you who have built SRMW kits:  Is it worth digging out/opening the windows?  Or did you paint the window well black and install the window castings (with glazing)?  How did that come out?
dave
Dave,

I've done it both ways. However, I think if you aren't going to light the structure you can blacken the windows and then install the windows.

Tom 
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ACL1504

Dave,

I like what you are doing with the bash! Interesting design and I'm looking forward to the finished model.

Tom 
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jerryrbeach

Dave,

I'm a big fan of South River kits, as well as New England mill buildings.  I'm really looking forward to watching you build this one. 
Jerry

deemery

Over the weekend, I completed the mock-ups.  Today I played with various arrangements of the buildings:
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I like the 'close spacing, buildings added to fit' look.  The office building is definitely going on the left.  The questions are the annex to the main mill and the L shaped wood shop.

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This is the winner.  I'll use that 2-story with gable annex as a freestanding boilerhouse, and a smokestack behind it.  Like the main mill, I'll have to fabricate a blank rear wall.  The tracks will run the full length of the siding, with a coal dump at the right end for the boiler.  
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I think I'll add a loading dock that connects to the structure running parallel to the tracks.  Or I could add a wood warehouse that extends to the right from that structure.  

So I'll let this sit overnight, and come back tomorrow to see if I still like this arrangement.

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

ACL1504

Dave,

The configuration of the mill parts look fantastic. Looking forward to this build. Great start for sure.

Tom
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

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