The Grizzly & Dilapidated Ry.

Started by kyle creel, February 02, 2025, 10:19:09 PM

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KentuckySouthern

Quite a task. 

I let myself get talked into a "if you don't like it change it". I so hate the Sawzall, tool of the devil.

8_10 years later...I need Gage's optimism... some day...

Persist, Frisco Mike. often says.  He's a wise man.

kyle creel

Thanx Larry C*., thanx Phillip, thanx Michael, and thanc Karl,...also thanx to all the 'passers by doing some window shopping'  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D ......

Well I got started, all the locomotive boxes are rounded up, and the same with the rolling stock;.... it's taken a couple of days, :o (1:1 stuff), dogie baths for fleas, major industrial'spring mopping' with a real janitor style 'rag mop n' bucket/wringer'.... :o  :o  :o we have the 'latest vinyl wood floors'  ::) from 5 years ago, and every week they get a good 'going over' with windex and hot water ::)  ::)  :o  :o ....then Gage and I do a little extra 'scrubbing' in the spring......my back's killing me... >:(  >:(  >:( ...got it all done though.....I began to 'spritz' up the room a bit, and decided to take a few more measurements...oops... :o  :o  :o  :o ...if I want this to work out and not become a 'yoke on my neck' after it's built,....clearances, height,  and location have to be absolutely right, I ain't doing this again  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  ;D  ;D  ;D ......

Bottom line ....the D&G Ry. layout has to be smaller :o  :o  :o .....not a whole lot,  ???  ??? ...but smaller..the current dimensions are 6 feet 2" by 3 feet 6"......too wide - too long.... >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:( ...sooo I went back to the plan (as always) and made the 'modifications'..... ???  ???  ???  ??? with just a little 'snip here' and a little 'snip there' I got what will actually work out to be a much better fit.... ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) ...and because of that, the tall (7') bookcase that currently sits on its' side and would be under the new layout, will now be back 'upright', not in the way, and put  to good use again.... ;D  ;) ...I'll also have more access to underneath the layout for storage... ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)  ;) .....the new dimensions are 6'long and 3 feet 2"wide... ;D  ;D  ;)  ;) ....

I had to make some compromises on radii, but I worked out that (by testing) I can have 18" easements into 15" radius on all the curves...it worked out very well,... ;D  ;D ....since the curves are not very long;...on average I only need one section of 15" radius in each curve .... ;D  ;D  ;D ......the 'hilltop spring' had to go,(not enough clearance underneath the track),I had to'reconfigure' the facilities for taking in the ore car and loading out the liquid BS filled tank car, :o  :o  ;D ..I'll also have only one whisker track besides the little engine shoppe whisker track in Dorre....but I was able to add one to the Sector Plate in Gaphetid  ;D  ;) ....since I'm only using three locomotives, a 2-6-0, a (BLI)2-8-0, and a 2-6-2, I should be A-OK... ;D  ;D  ;D ...beside this is a 'rinky-dink' little RR and this way it'll stay that way..... ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;) 

Here's the result................. 
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Hope it looks 'up to snuff', thanx again for all the input, it really helps out - especially when there are so many hurdles and curves to negotiate  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)  ;) .....ya'll stay tuned....see ya..... 8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

KYLE CREEL
DORRE & GAPHETID Ry. Co.

Larry C

Kyle sounds like you've been doing some serious imagineering. When I actually had a layout it was about 7 feet long and I was surprised how much modeling you could get in a space that size even in On30. The width should make a huge difference while the sector plate should save you a lot of real estate. So when does the sawdust start "a fly'in?"
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Jerry

Kyle good luck with staying with the list and building the new RR.

Jerry
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

kyle creel

Thanx LarryC*., and thanx Jerry.....

Larry C*. - I think this smaller size will let me focus in on some areas of modelling that I haven't been very interested in because I've never taken the time to really try my hand at, like detailing; one you and most all the guys here on the Narrow Line have done such fabulous work in.... ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) .....the foam probably starts flyin' around mid June.......

Jerry, you're thoughts and wishes are right on point, it's tough to stay on task, especially with a lot of other 1:1 stuff flyin' around lookin' for a spot to land... :o  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) ....but I'm gonna give it a shot.....

Speaking of shots ... ::) ...here's two comparison shots of the room footprint showing the layout size differences in relation to how much 'usable' floor space I have...it may not seem like much, but in 1:1 scale it's a bunch..... ;D  ;D  ;D .....

Here's the 6'-2" x 3'-6" version......
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Here's the new 6' x 3'-2" size........
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The chairs can now fit neatly back against or close to the wall,.. ;)  ;)  their not sticking out into the 'walk way area' because of the bookcase, and the desk fits neatly under the layout, :) ....there's just less area taken up by the furniture and layout in the new design......my mom always said that "No matter the room size, the more you can see the base boards- the bigger or more spacious the room feels".....in my life I have found this to be true.... ;D  ;D  ;D .......that's about all for now, gotta 'get back to it'.....thanx for all the ideas, support, comments and suggestions.....all are very much appreciated.......ya'll stay tuned.....see ya... 8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

KYLE CREEL
DORRE & GAPHETID Ry. Co.

Michael Hohn

Looks doable, Kyle.  Thanks for the update.

My way of balancing life since retiring has been to do 1:1 jobs in the morning, model railroad or other hobbies in the afternoon, and time with my wife in the evening.

Mike

deemery

Quote from: Michael Hohn on May 22, 2026, 06:43:40 PMLooks doable, Kyle.  Thanks for the update.

My way of balancing life since retiring has been to do 1:1 jobs in the morning, model railroad or other hobbies in the afternoon, and time with my wife in the evening.

Mike
I've found since retiring that my schedule wasn't my own.  Lots of appointments (medical, etc) , classes at the Senior Center, etc, all seemed to break up my day.  

dave
Modeling the Northeast in the 1890s - because the little voices told me to

labdad

Mike that's about my method.
Dave,
Of course the Dr. 💩 ruins any schedule.
I'm just glad I got to retire!
Mj

kyle creel

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Thanx Michael, thanx Dave, and thanx MJ;......... ;D  ;D  ;D

Also a big 'ol thanx to all the folks that went past and just grabbed a quick peek.. ;D  ;D  ;D it's all helpful and appreciated  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) .......

Here we go ... :o ...tomorrow Gage and I start on the garage  :o  :o  :o  ??? ...we're gonna take it in stages; the first day we're gonna tear down all the remaining RR benchwork from past projects, and stack it neatly on the far wall; then we'll sweep the area and clean up all the leftover debris....the next day we'll move the old dining room furniture into the spot that the old RR occupied.....that'll give me a nice clean area to mess up when I start the pink foam flying... :o  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) ......

Next week we're gonna disassemble the current layout and put the wood with the other wood we stacked up; the pink foam (it's not glued to the benchwork) will be salvaged for the new RR..... ;D  ;D  ;)  ;)

Speaking of which  8)  8)  8) ...the final full color track plan is ready to be unveiled... :o  :o  :o  ::)  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;)  ;) .......the final size is 6 feet 2" by 3 feet 4"... it's a size I can live with that's right in between the largest and the smallest plans,....I made a couple of changes to the route that 2 portions of the track work follow,... :o ...I swapped the routes that the 2 outside tracks follow...the old - original routing had the outside track going around and up to Gaphetid (just like John Allens') ...and the next track inside went into a tunnel and back down to Dorre, like the original;.....in order to increase vertical clearance between the two, I swapped the routes, so that the outside track goes around and into a tunnel and back down to Dorre....the other track - I routed along the same route the former inside track follows - but it now follows a nimble footing only slightly higher in elevation than before  :o  :o .....giving me the extra clearance.... ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D.....I also designed a 'custom bridge' to separate the two earlier than before; this makes the divergence in route and elevation work better .. ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)  ;) ....

I also figured out how to use the spare 16" TT (or part of it) to build the Sector Plate in Gaphetid... :o  :o ....I'm  cutting off one end of the TT bridge to give me between 12 and 13 inches of length with the pivot hole left intact, so I can use it to swivel the Sector Plate bridge back and forth, and also it supplies power to the rails; the pit is then cut down to a shape resembling the infield shape on a baseball field.... :o  :o  :o  :o ....you'll see in the picture... ;)  ;)  ;)  ;D  ;D ......that's about it; I'm so ready to get started on the garage, (Patrice has been 'mentioning' it for the last 2 years), 'cause then I can truly say "Honey, look- the garage is all clean...." ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;) .....and I'll be that much closer to starting the actual build... ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  8)  8) ...

Here's the layout in FULL COLOR :o  :o  ;D  ;D  ;D  ::)  ::)  ;) ...I hope it looks OK and is easy to follow......I haven't labeled anythig yet, but I think ya'll know 'what's what'.... ;D  ;D  ;)  ;)  ;)
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That's all for now....thanx again for all the comments, suggestions, questions and inspiration... ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  it really helps .......see ya..... 8)  8)  8)  8)  8) .........

KYLE CREEL
DORRE & GAPHETID Ry. Co.


Larry C

Kyle looks like a solid plan so good luck and off we go soon.
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Philip

When I retired the 1st time at 42 doc appointments were unheard of. Healthy as a horse but now no escape. ::) 

PRR Modeler

Looks good Kyle. Is it adopted from a Atlas layout?
Curt Webb
The Late Great Pennsylvania Railroad
Freelanced PRR Bellevue Subdivision

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