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Title: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 14, 2016, 06:03:52 PM
I thought it would be fun to do 1 structure in 2 scales at the same time , see what the differences are and at the same time learn what I can do to improve building in both scales using those differences and hopefully your comments.

2 scales , 2 different sized boxes.
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The N-scale parts. Tichy windows, less cast white-metal parts, and of course much smaller.
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The H0 parts. Peel and stick windows and doors, more white-metal details
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The same parts next to each other.
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Bracing all the walls.
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A & I wash, the wall that's done compared to it's holding part.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 14, 2016, 06:05:57 PM
All the bracing done.
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A dusting of gray primer from a rattle can.
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Here you can see that is just a light spray and not really spray painting the walls.
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Paint colors Pollyscale New Gravel Gray and Pollyscale Weyerhauser Green. This is where the HO build differs from the N-scale one for the first time. While I would call the H0 walls painted ( not a wet paint cover, but also not drybrushed ) the N-scale has to be drybrushed to get the weathered paint effect, and even then it's hard to not cover the N-scale walls.
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You can clearly see that even though drybrushed the N-scale paint is more monotonous then the H0 scale paint job.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: martin.ojaste on January 14, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ReadingBob on January 15, 2016, 07:36:01 AM
Very nice.  Very interesting concept to do both scales at the same time in a side by side build thread.  You know I'll be following along.  Thanks for sharing!   :D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: GPdemayo on January 15, 2016, 08:29:03 AM
Very interesting.....I'll be looking in.  :)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: postalkarl on January 15, 2016, 08:34:16 AM
Hi Jan:

I will also be following alng with this build.

Karl
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 15, 2016, 03:38:02 PM
Me to Jan.

Don't believe I have ever seen this done before.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: donatode on January 15, 2016, 03:43:20 PM
Novel idea....glad you thought it up.....I'll definitely be following.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 15, 2016, 06:54:16 PM
Thank you gentlemen, glad to have you along , please don't hesitate to criticize or give me pointers especially when you think I should do the H0 kit in a different way, N-scale is less emphasis on the details so I am a little scared I will do the H0 kit too similar to the N-scale kit , where more detailing should be required.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 17, 2016, 05:16:11 PM

Spray can primer white for all the trims , cornerposts , windows and doors.
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Going to do all the signs , windows and doors before I assemble any walls . Thanks Karl
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On the left the printed signs for the N-scale kit, H0 to the right.
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An emery board to just very lightly sand the back of the printed signs, do this before you cut them.
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Instead of putting glue on the sign I put glue on the wall , this was easy because the piece to be glued was bordered by the ends of the wood and exactly between the lines on the clapboard.
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I like the red sign in N-scale better , unfortunately the H0 kit only has Black or White.
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Some more signs, put glue to the signs and then stuck them on. The H0 kit has a dry transfer , somewhat easier to install then the glued signs, but maybe looks a bit too new.
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All the signs on the walls installed. H0 left , N-scale right.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: S&S RR on January 17, 2016, 09:29:12 PM
Jan


Great idea for a build thread - this will be very interesting - I will be following along.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ACL1504 on January 18, 2016, 07:43:53 AM
Jan,

Very neat idea, and I'm following along with the others.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on January 18, 2016, 01:22:48 PM
Looking good, Jan.

I agree - the red and white sign looks a lot better than the white and black one. The red colour seems to have a more aged look too.  You could maybe rub some of the dry transfer off to help age it?I think maybe that font with the lower case 'i's is a bit more modern too.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: rslaserkits on January 18, 2016, 03:18:25 PM
Jan,  take the N signs and have them copied at 184%  then you can use on the HO kit.
and your right the red looks better by far.
rich
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jankirkwood on January 18, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Janbouli I want to like the Red signs better but unfortunately i like the clear sign better.  Good build.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: postalkarl on January 18, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
Hi Jan:

Looks great so far. Would you like to see my Mooney's Plumbing that isn't the kit? It's scratch built.

Karl
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 18, 2016, 06:08:55 PM
Thank you all , and yes Karl I would like to see it.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 18, 2016, 06:39:20 PM

Did some more light sanding.
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Wash with A&I.
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The H0 kit has peel and stick windows and doors , the N-scale kit has Tichy windows and doors.
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Glued on the cornerposts, with ends sticking out , then cut off the ends with a single razor blade.


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Not easy to take a photo with one hand while holding the razor blade with the other. I did it to show how I lign up the blade against the wall and then cut flush, just by pressing the blade through the wood.
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The walls of the office ready to install. Notice how the H0 kit even has hinges on the doors, something not possible on the N-scale kit.
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2 of the walls of the main building, I think the signs look okay.
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Tomorrow more of the N-scale structure, while doing the above the Tichy windows and doors were drying.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 19, 2016, 10:35:54 AM
This is how I did the Tichy windows on the N-scale kit.
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Press the wall onto the window and then paste with Micro Kristal Klear, this will hold the window in place and when dry leave a clear glass window.
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All the walls done, there are differences in the 2 kits , I can't say I like one better then the other. Of course the detailing in the H0 windows and doors is better but one will only notice this from close by , from a scale 100 feet distance both will look good.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: donatode on January 19, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
I am just speechless Jan.....great modeling .... as usual.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 19, 2016, 01:06:38 PM
Thank you Donato , really appreciate the compliment.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: cuse on January 19, 2016, 04:57:07 PM
Nice job Jan! I particularly like your application of the "painted on" sign on the gray wall. Fun idea.


In my switching to HO, I haven't found a tremendous difference in the assembly process.


John
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 19, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: Cuse on January 19, 2016, 04:57:07 PM
Nice job Jan! I particularly like your application of the "painted on" sign on the gray wall. Fun idea.


In my switching to HO, I haven't found a tremendous difference in the assembly process.


John

Thanks John. I do find the H0 parts easier to put together, peel and stick windows in H0 have just a little more beef to the sides to place them easier , things like that. Weathering in H0 is also just that trickle easier , and mistakes with a brush or glue or anything like that are not immediately HUGE mistakes.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: martin.ojaste on January 19, 2016, 10:24:36 PM
Its getting better each day as you add to the structures.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ACL1504 on January 20, 2016, 07:24:38 AM
Jan,

Great thread and progress. I love the signs. They look like they've been on for years. Thanks for sharing.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Vilius on January 20, 2016, 09:13:57 AM
Jan,

What a great concept to build HO and N scale versions of the same kit side by side! And you are doing great job executing it. I am guessing at least HO kit is older one unless Art has changed his mind and restarted supplying dry transfers with it. I have a version where in the manual it says people had issues applying dry transfer so it is no longer included. I see you had no trouble at all.

Vilius
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 20, 2016, 06:16:30 PM
Thanks  Martin , Tom, Vilius , the dry-transfer was easy to apply , I just did what I always do with dry-transfers, take a pencil and color the back side with a bit of pressure, I use a soft pencil to do this , doesn't rip or break the dry-transfer and it's easy to see if you've done the whole thing.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 21, 2016, 05:34:31 PM
Assembling the walls , I keep them square by using a tray and magnets.
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Main building in H0 and N
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Office in H0 and N
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Both have the same billboard made out of 4 pieces and a sticker sign.
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Assembled they look like this.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 21, 2016, 05:42:02 PM
Now for the water tower, The boards are a one piece laser cut with peel and stick. First you gently break all the boards along the lasercut lines , as you can see in the photo's I just bent them over a sharp edge until they snapped , watching out to not break the transfer tape.
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Same thing for the N-scale one , using a metal ruler to hold it down exactly on the sharp edge.
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Once I'd did all the boards , I peeled off the backing from the tape and gently pressing went around the provided dowels.
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The H0 and N-scale next to each other, ready for painting and then steel bands.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 21, 2016, 05:47:41 PM
Next I went on to the loading docks. First gluing the deck to the beams.
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Then the supports.
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Some crossbars still needed.
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The roofing painted, metal roofing for the office , tarpaper for the main building.
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Using plastic bags filled with ballast to hold the roofing down while glue sets.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: postalkarl on January 22, 2016, 09:30:16 AM
Hi Jan:

Great job sofar. I'm not sure I could do this. I'd probably have all the parts mixed up. I'm lucky I can build one at a time. Keep up the great work.

Karl
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ReadingBob on January 22, 2016, 11:35:02 AM
Wow.  You're really making a lot of progress and doing a wonderful job on both builds.  These are going to look super!  Thanks for taking the time to share so many photo's!  :D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jrmueller on January 22, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Jan - Here is my take on Mooney's. Entered it in the Lancaster EXPO but didn't get any action.  Jim
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jrmueller on January 22, 2016, 11:39:21 AM
Whoops missed the front.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 22, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Thank you all for the compliments , means a lot to me, and Jim thank you for the photo's , you set a high bar for me.

Karl ,did you find the photo's of your scratchbuilt Mooneys? I'm sure everyone would like to see them.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: postalkarl on January 22, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
Hi Jan:

The diorama looks just great. Here's my Mooney's Plumbing. I used a structure off of the Franklin and South Manchester RR. It is scratch built.

Karl
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 22, 2016, 03:55:48 PM
Thanks Karl, lots of ideas for weathering and details there. The rock foundation is great as are the shingles, oh , and everything in between  ;)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: EricQuebec on January 22, 2016, 05:04:07 PM
Nicely build, Janbouli

Eric Québec city
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 22, 2016, 06:43:03 PM
Merci beaucoup Eric.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: postalkarl on January 22, 2016, 07:51:20 PM
Hi Jan:

Thanks glad you enjoyed it.

Karl
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 25, 2016, 07:15:58 PM
To weather the roofs I used a product I have only just acquired, they are textured paints from Citadel from their Technical series. These are mainly used by Wargamers.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon49.jpg&hash=8572f76e794497c260440342bbfe3ce55dbbb1ab)

Main roof before weathering.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon50.jpg&hash=1b81b4fab189f7f78800256f4211bcd5a190cd7a)

First a brush of Typhus Corrosion , I know , I don't really like the names of some of their paints , but that's what they are.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon51.jpg&hash=04cf473109b62ebb86ea74797dc5b3ad7833bc91)

Then a dry brush of Agrellan Earth , I think the texture of the paints makes them look just a little different to what we are used to.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon52.jpg&hash=f5abb4699327d6f3e1bde4b63e229a7f5e6fffcb)

Same sequence for the H0 metal roof
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And the N-scale roof. It's a lot smaller , and from close up shows less texture because I brushed off some of the texture that was to thick for scale.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon54.jpg&hash=c5695c1cdd1fe4a833a53233c78f4ff241ef5bcb)

Followed by Blackfire Earth
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon55.jpg&hash=77863eca2581aedac522f0f8a2755f532b3bc318)

Then a sort of wash with the Nihilahk Oxide, I forgot to take a good photo , but if you look close you can see it on the left N-scale structure, the tarpaper roof I finished with a dry brush of Nurgles Rot. I then glued on the dormers.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon56.jpg&hash=5be2e8b6f09f1916c7ade7362f7d463d8c7df9b3)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 25, 2016, 07:19:58 PM
While I waited for the dormers to set I went on with the water tanks. Painted a piece of black paper backed with transfer tape Tamiya Gun Metal
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon57.jpg&hash=36488f9116e2daec31deb73c2655a746162b958b)

Cut 1mm strips from that.
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And installed them to the H0 water tank. This didn't work out for the N-scale tank, more on that later.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: madharry on January 26, 2016, 07:03:13 AM
A nice job Jan. I built this kit a few years ago. It is a nice little structure and I think it is one of BM's best.
Keep up the good work.

Mike  ;)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 26, 2016, 08:26:51 AM
Thanks Mike, good to see you here again, it's been a while hasn't it. Looking forward to March , I will be at Ontraxs on Friday.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jankirkwood on January 26, 2016, 09:56:10 AM
Wow Janbouli what a great build.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: madharry on January 26, 2016, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on January 26, 2016, 08:26:51 AM
Thanks Mike, good to see you here again, it's been a while hasn't it. Looking forward to March , I will be at Ontraxs on Friday.

Yes I have just got the details from Ontraxs - it looks to be a great show with the advertised layouts. The following weekend we have been invited to the London Festival of Model Railways at Alexandra Palace, London. So a busy few days.

Once again your models are great, looking forward to the final results...

Mike :D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jankirkwood on January 28, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
hopefully you all will take pictures. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 28, 2016, 06:03:06 PM
Quote from: jankirkwood on January 28, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
hopefully you all will take pictures. ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure I will, a few hundred each year at Ontraxs.  I even have a newspaper article with a photo of me  taking photo's at Ontraxs  ;D

I'm the one with the orange hood on my jacket.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwashtown.nl%2Fgfx%2F20120303_vk_ontraxs_1200.jpg&hash=916949fb1155bf6f0384638888118399c385d488) (http://washtown.nl/gfx/20120303_vk_ontraxs_1200.jpg)

I'm pretty sure that I am taking this photo.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8489/8280429337_09eb165b4d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 29, 2016, 05:08:42 PM
On with Mooneys

This is the N-scale watertank, I used sewing thread to make the bands, everything else would be too thick.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon60.jpg&hash=035f6c2aba4422df94da0f742e0f6af5220a725f)

Both watertanks to compare.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon61.jpg&hash=ae8ceb7ba7d25a6e8b6a35a06f9b06e27f4310bd)

The roof of the H0 office after weathering with Citadel Technical paints.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon62.jpg&hash=21a8924cfca1fda8b2f269d9787cd958055b83a8)

The holes in the roofs are a bit too big for the chimneys so i hold them up like this until the glue sets.
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Another roof , and deck installed.
(https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjanbouli.com%2Fimages%2Fgebouwen%2Fmooney%2Fmoon64.jpg&hash=bdbd06f89a43d4412ae53aeb4880c6f55909d9fe)

The loading docks compared, only difference is the size.
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Castings primed, started painting them today.
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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: deemery on January 29, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
Somehow, a Dutchman wearing orange isn't an unusual site ;-)


dave
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 30, 2016, 07:04:20 AM
Quote from: deemery on January 29, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
Somehow, a Dutchman wearing orange isn't an unusual site ;-)


dave

Nope, I have a lot of orange clothes, most of us do.

Alas , no Dutch supporters at European Championships this year , our team did not qualify. So no Orange Sea at the football stadiums.

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Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: cuse on January 30, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
Looks great Jan...I especially like the roof. Congrats on your new HO layout. ;)
I love that layout you were photographing. I've studied many pics of it - Troels Kirk is one of my favorites and that one is, to say the least, inspired by his work.


John



Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ACL1504 on January 30, 2016, 08:48:15 AM
Jan,

I also like the roof look and I'm enjoying following this thread.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: jankirkwood on January 30, 2016, 09:44:26 AM
Janbouli I am glad that you all will be taking pictures.  Your layout is going to be a super one.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: GPdemayo on January 30, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Great progress Jan..... 8)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 30, 2016, 06:04:46 PM
Thank you all for the compliments , it is really motivational.

Quote from: Cuse on January 30, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
Looks great Jan...I especially like the roof. Congrats on your new HO layout. ;)
I love that layout you were photographing. I've studied many pics of it - Troels Kirk is one of my favorites and that one is, to say the least, inspired by his work.


John

Martin Wellberg is a friend of Troels and i am glad to say also one of my Dutch railroad friends. Yes Troels inspired him , but now Martin is taking his modeling to a next level. He was already a master in grass and tree scenery , now he is working on new weathering skills.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1651/24287390639_f4e510aee8_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: S&S RR on January 30, 2016, 08:28:30 PM
I'm really enjoying the thread Jan.  Great work!  Oh and I also have been watching Troels' work - he is a great artist.
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: ACL1504 on January 31, 2016, 08:46:10 AM
Jan,

Troels is definitely an artist and certainly has inspired many and has quite the following among modelers.

Is the tank car your or Martin's. Very nice work either way.

Tom ;D
Title: Re: Bar Mills Mooney's Plumbing Emporium in N and H0 scale.
Post by: Janbouli on January 31, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on January 31, 2016, 08:46:10 AM
Jan,

Troels is definitely an artist and certainly has inspired many and has quite the following among modelers.

Is the tank car your or Martin's. Very nice work either way.

Tom ;D

The tank car is Martin's , I think this is On3 , that level of weathering/modeling is simply not possible in N-scale.