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Title: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:11:02 PM
I've had several people ask how I did the stucco on Gusano Loco Restaurant.

In the build thread I didn't go into full details but will do so here.

My method is not the only way to add stucco to a wall but it is very simple and extremely easy to do. Remember, this method worked for me and the results were better than expected.

In the kit, Doug has stucco on the top portion of the front wall.

Again, here is my front wall.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:13:58 PM
Since the wall was wood, I'll use some wood for the thread.

I have several wood rulers left over from a safety campaign from work. The ruler is 1/8" thick.

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For the purpose of this thread, I've painted a section black so the stucco can best be seen.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:18:09 PM
I made a simple square from scale 2 X 4's for some detail relief.

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I'm using a product call Durham's Rock Hard Water Putty.

I've been using this one container of water putty for the past 30 years. As long as the lid is tight, it will last - at least 30+ years that I can attest to.

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I'm gonna grab a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Lynnb on December 09, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
Following  :)
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:22:44 PM
These are the two brushes I'll be using. Nothing scientific about these, just my preference.

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The #6 Grumbacher is for the stucco and the 1/4" is for water. More on the water later.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on December 09, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
Following  :)


Lynn,

Happy to have you on the jouirney.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:30:24 PM
I use the 1/4" brush to dampen the wood. Notice I said "dampen" and not "wet". Actually, I guess it's the same but I don't want any standing water on the wood. I just want to dampen it.

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The wood is porous and I don't want it to warp. Just want the water/damp on top. When the stucco is applied and the wood is dry, the wood will act like a sponge and suck the moisture out of the stucco.

This will cause the stucco to dry faster which you don't want to happen. With the wood damp, you have time to play with the stucco prior to it getting to dry.

I dampened the black area.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:40:36 PM
Typically the mix of water putty is 3:1, meaning 3 parts putty to one part water.

I added water to the putty and not visa versa. I want my water putty mix to be creamy, not watery or like syrup.

I take the brush and drip it in the mixture and dab it up and down only.

Here you can see the first of two coats applied to the area where the stucco is to be added.

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Notice the stucco is damp? This is how I want it to look after the first coat. You also obviously want it to lay flat while drying.

In the next photo you can see it starting to dry.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:46:38 PM
Another tip is to have some dry water putty handy. You can dip your brush into the dry mix if you get the first coat to wet.

After dipping the brush into the dry mix, lightly dab it on the applied stucco. You'll notice immediately the "wet stucco" soak up the dry powder. It's just that easy to do if you get it to wet.

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Conversely, you can keep a little cup of water next to the stucco mix. If the mixture is drying to fast, dab the brush into the clean water and then onto the stucco.

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Okay, we are almost finished.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
For the purpose of this thread, I'll use the same color as I did on Gusano's.

The stucco is dry and ready to paint. When dry it is a light tan color so you don't need to paint it.

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I added the paint in two coats like I did with the stucco. I dabbed it one in an up and down manner only.

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Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:57:36 PM
When dry, I used Polly Scale Aged White to highlight the stucco.

The aged white was dry brushed onto the red stucco.

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As I said, easy peasy stucco.



Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Lynnb on December 09, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Came out nice. On the Bailey's Produce I had used the Liquidex brand which is pretty much ready to go out of the container. I look forward to trying your puddy stuff.
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: vinceg on December 09, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
Thanks, Tom. Look s very good and painless to do.
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Janbouli on December 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Thanks Tom for the quick and easy tutorial, now if only we could get our hands on 30 year old Water Putty  ;)
Quote from: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 12:18:09 PM



I'm using a product call Durham's Rock Hard Water Putty.

I've been using this one container of water putty for the past 30 years. As long as the lid is tight, it will last - at least 30+ years that I can attest to.

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I'm gonna grab a Diet Pepsi, back in a few.
When I saw the photo of the can I was thinking, now there's a fine example of retro look products .
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: Lynnb on December 09, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Came out nice. On the Bailey's Produce I had used the Liquidex brand which is pretty much ready to go out of the container. I look forward to trying your puddy stuff.


Lynn,

Thank you. there are several methods of making stucco for model walls. I still need to try mine on a larger area.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: vinceg on December 09, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
Thanks, Tom. Look s very good and painless to do.


Vince,

Thank you. I hope this helps answer your questions.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 09, 2018, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: Janbouli on December 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM
Thanks Tom for the quick and easy tutorial, now if only we could get our hands on 30 year old Water Putty  ;) 



When I saw the photo of the can I was thinking, now there's a fine example of retro look products .


Jan,

You are welcome and yes it does look retro doesn't it?

By the way, Durham's is still packaged in the same container as the one I showed.

If you can't find any up your way, let me know. I'll be happy to send you a baggie full.

http://www.waterputty.com/durham.html

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: PRR Modeler on December 09, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
Great tutorial Tom.
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: EricQuebec on December 09, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
Great tutorial Tom.
I'm never be able to make stastisfying stucco with putty. It'S the reason why I devellop my own technic with liquitex light modeling paste. But I will make an other try following your instruction.
Thanks.
Eric
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: jimmillho on December 09, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
So, that's how you are supposed to do it.  I shall attempt to copy the Master if I ever need to Stucco a Model Building.

Very good tutorial my friend.

Jim
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: GPdemayo on December 10, 2018, 08:26:38 AM
Great looking textured stucco Tom..... 8)
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ReadingBob on December 10, 2018, 09:10:32 AM
Great tutorial.  Pretty much the same process I use with one minor difference.  Rather than dampen the wall with water I smear a thin layer of Elmer's glue over the section I'm about to do to give it some bite.  Otherwise it's identical. 

The key is finding the right consistency when prepping the water putty.  Heavy cream like comes to mind.  Slightly thinner then that works too but it takes a little longer to set up.  Thicker and it sets up too fast.

Great job!
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: MAP on December 10, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
Thanks for the tutorial Tom.  I'll have to get some of the putty and give it a trial test run.  I've got 1 or 2 buildings that need stucco, and your method seems to be, well, Easy Peasy!
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Opa George on December 10, 2018, 07:34:09 PM
Thank you, Tom. I appreciate the time you took to detail the technique so nicely. My can of Durham's is not thirty years old--perhaps three--but looks exactly like that. They have not changed the label in decades. Got it at a local big box hardware store--cheap, too.

--Opa George
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Dave K. on December 11, 2018, 06:17:42 AM
Great tutorial...thanks!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on December 09, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
Great tutorial Tom.


Curt,

Thank you my friend, appreciate the comment.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:37:49 PM
Quote from: EricQuebec on December 09, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
Great tutorial Tom.
I'm never be able to make stastisfying stucco with putty. It'S the reason why I devellop my own technic with liquitex light modeling paste. But I will make an other try following your instruction.
Thanks.
Eric


Eric,

Thanks for stopping by and posting your comment. I'll have to give the Liquitex method a try. Looks like both methods are good to go.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Quote from: jimmillho on December 09, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
So, that's how you are supposed to do it.  I shall attempt to copy the Master if I ever need to Stucco a Model Building.

Very good tutorial my friend.

Jim


Butty Jim,

Thanks very much. It was much easier than I ever expected.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on December 10, 2018, 08:26:38 AM
Great looking textured stucco Tom..... 8)


Greg,

Thank you sir, much appreciated.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on December 10, 2018, 09:10:32 AM
Great tutorial.  Pretty much the same process I use with one minor difference.  Rather than dampen the wall with water I smear a thin layer of Elmer's glue over the section I'm about to do to give it some bite.  Otherwise it's identical. 

The key is finding the right consistency when prepping the water putty.  Heavy cream like comes to mind.  Slightly thinner then that works too but it takes a little longer to set up.  Thicker and it sets up too fast.

Great job!


Bob,

I appreciate the support Butty. The putty consistency is the key as well. I'll have to try the glue method on the net one I do. I think I like the idea of glue better than the plain water.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: MAP on December 10, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
Thanks for the tutorial Tom.  I'll have to get some of the putty and give it a trial test run.  I've got 1 or 2 buildings that need stucco, and your method seems to be, well, Easy Peasy!


Mark,

The tutorial was my pleasure and as I said, "Easy Peasy".

Tom  ;D



Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Opa George on December 10, 2018, 07:34:09 PM
Thank you, Tom. I appreciate the time you took to detail the technique so nicely. My can of Durham's is not thirty years old--perhaps three--but looks exactly like that. They have not changed the label in decades. Got it at a local big box hardware store--cheap, too.

--Opa George


George,

You are most welcome and I enjoyed sharing the idea. The can hasn't changed in I know at least 30+ years. I got a lot of mileage out of my $1.49 can.  ;D ;D


Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 13, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: Dave K. on December 11, 2018, 06:17:42 AM
Great tutorial...thanks!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


Dave,

You are welcome and "thank you".

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: Bruce Oberleitner on December 15, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Hi Tom,
Yet another great tutorial.  Thanks again my friend.  Merry Christmas to you and the babe.

Give that man a diet pepsi!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Easy Peasy Stucco on Walls
Post by: ACL1504 on December 18, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: Bruce Oberleitner on December 15, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Hi Tom,
Yet another great tutorial.  Thanks again my friend.  Merry Christmas to you and the babe.

Give that man a diet pepsi!

;D ;D ;D


Cousin Brucie,

Thank you for the kind comment. It was my pleasure.

Merry Christmas to you as well my good friend.

Tom and the Babe.