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Title: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:12:46 AM
Time to start a new build!  This time around I'm going to build FOS The Wacther Apartments which was a kit my better half gave me for Christmas.  Let's get started.

The unopened kit on the workbench.  ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110658-44092629.jpeg)

Tearing off the shrink wrap.  Ahh...new kit smell.  ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110659-440931592.jpeg)

The back of the sheet that's on the front of the box includes a lot of neat signs.  Nice touch!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110659-440941820.jpeg)

Let's see what's inside the box.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110659-440951248.jpeg)

A bundle of strip wood, a couple bags of smaller parts.  Doors, windows, etc.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110659-440961285.jpeg)

Several sheets of laser cut parts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110758-44097554.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:18:06 AM
Walls.  Lot's of walls!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110758-440981934.jpeg)

More walls and laser cut stuff!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110759-440991789.jpeg)

And of course instructions and templates.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110759-441001200.jpeg)

I started by removing the windows and doors from their carriers using a sprue cutter.  Great little tool to have on the workbench for this task.  Lot's an lot's of windows in this kit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110759-44101185.jpeg)

I touched up the edges of the castings were the cuts were made with a fine sanding stick.  A lot of folks like to paint the windows and doors while they're still on the carrier.  No problem with that.  Either before or after works.  I just prefer to cut 'em out and clean 'em up before I paint them.  ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110849-441022412.jpeg)

There are a few metal castings include in the kit.  Some need to be cut from their sprues.  For this these I an old pair of rail nippers.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110849-44103841.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:25:18 AM
I clean up the metal castings with a small file.  Overall the castings were pretty clean and didn't need much touch up.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110850-441041047.jpeg)

I sorted, bundled and labeled the strip wood.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110850-441051834.jpeg)

Time to start working on the walls.  I lightly sanded each edge to square it up.  A trick I learned here on the forum.  The laser doesn't necessary ensure that the edges are a perfect 90 angle. It's close though.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110850-441061940.jpeg)

Some of the walls got a little texture treatment by brushing them with a welders steel brush (purchased at Home Depot).  I only did this for the walls that make up a little roof top structure. 
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110950-441071578.jpeg)

I ran a small bead of glue on the strip wood that would be used for bracing.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110950-44108579.jpeg)

Then I smeared the bead of glue with my finger tip to spread it across the surface.  I have a paper towel nearby to wipe my finger off when I'm done so I don't transfer the glue to anything I touch.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110950-441091242.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 05, 2020, 09:32:58 AM
Looking forward to seeing this build Bob.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:33:49 AM
I position the bracing against the wall.  For the ones that go against the edge of the wall I use a small square to ensure I get it right up against the edge.  Note that the strip wood is longer than the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110950-441106.jpeg)

I weigh it down with some marble blocks scavenged from some old bowling trophies.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520110950-441111241.jpeg)

Next I trim the bracing, top and bottom, to fit using a single edged razor blade.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111046-44112421.jpeg)

Rats.  I ran out of strip wood for bracing before I ran out of walls.  I keep extra on hand so I had to reach for my stash.  I assume I'll need more for some of the roofs as well.  I followed the bracing diagrams in the instructions so it wasn't like I used more than recommended.   :(
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111046-441132101.jpeg)

After the walls were braced I painted the inside with a cheap craft store acrylic black paint to block light from bleeding through the walls if (Ha!) I chose to install lighting.  I used to use Grimy Black (Floquil or PollyScale) for this.  What a waste!  $4+ for a small bottle of Floquil or PollyScale vs. $1 for a large bottle of cheap craft store acrylic that really won't be seen anyway.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111046-44114473.jpeg)

All the strip wood, except the bracing of course, got a bath in Hunterline Light Gray Weathering Mix.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111046-441152183.jpeg)

More in a moment.... :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Dennis Bourey on May 05, 2020, 09:36:37 AM
Love it Bob, I have this kit and I will be watching real close. Dennis
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:43:15 AM
Thanks Curt!  Glad to have you aboard.  :D

It dawned on me that while I had my little stain tub out it's a good time to stain the walls too.  Much easier to dip the brush into the stain in the tub than it is while it's in the bottle.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111047-441161723.jpeg)

The strip wood got removed from the bath tub and placed in an old cardboard box, still organized by side, so it could dry.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111130-441172414.jpeg)

I brush painted the walls with a yellow craft store paint, Americana Golden Straw.  It looks bright now but it's darken up quite a bit (too much actually) after I weather it.  The instructions say to sponge this coat on but I prefer to brush paint the first coat.  I do dip the brush in water periodically to thin the paint a little and allow some of the darkness of the stained wall to show.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111130-441181952.jpeg)

Next I sponged some Medium Gray onto the walls.  I'm not trying to paint them.  Just leave a little bit of gray here and there to give the appearance of spots where the yellow paint peeled off and the underlying colors are showing through.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-020520111130-441191399.jpeg)

After the Medium Gray I sponged on some Sable Brown. 

That's it for the pictures I uploaded this weekend.  More to follow in the coming weeks.

Thanks for following along!  :D

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on May 05, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
I'll be looking in Bob..... :)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: Dennis Bourey on May 05, 2020, 09:36:37 AM
Love it Bob, I have this kit and I will be watching real close. Dennis

Thanks Dennis!  Lot's of windows in this one.  It's a neat looking structure isn't it? 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Janbouli on May 05, 2020, 09:44:33 AM
Following along Bob , if only to see how many different T-shirts are worn during this build  :) ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:44:45 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 05, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
I'll be looking in Bob..... :)

Thanks Greg!  You'll get to see it in person someday!  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 05, 2020, 09:44:33 AM
Following along Bob , if only to see how many different T-shirts are worn during this build  :) ;)

Thanks Jan!   ;D  ;D  ;D  I guess I'll have to dig down deeper in the stack.  I have a habit of just grabbing the same ones off the top of the pile and my wife is always on top of the laundry so I never get further down than the top five.   :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Dennis Bourey on May 05, 2020, 11:02:48 AM
Bob Yes it is. I actually bought the kit because of the rear of the building the way it look's and FOS named it for a friend of his, Named Wacther in California. Dennis
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 05, 2020, 03:55:17 PM
Looking good, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on May 05, 2020, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 09:44:45 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 05, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
I'll be looking in Bob..... :)

Thanks Greg!  You'll get to see it in person someday!  ;)


Wouldn't miss it Bob.....also looking forward to seeing the flat that you just completed.  :)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Rail and Tie on May 05, 2020, 04:38:47 PM

Following along Bob! Looking forward to your build.  Here is a video build that was done. Might be some useful bits of info for you if you have not seen his stuff before.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfK6q18QNc

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 05, 2020, 04:54:33 PM
Looks great so far Bob.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on May 05, 2020, 03:55:17 PM
Looking good, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.

Thanks Mark!  This one has been fun so far.  Lot's to do yet.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: Rail and Tie on May 05, 2020, 04:38:47 PM

Following along Bob! Looking forward to your build.  Here is a video build that was done. Might be some useful bits of info for you if you have not seen his stuff before.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfK6q18QNc

Thanks for following along and thanks for the link Darryl!  I watched the video out of one eye while keeping an eye batch jobs running at work.   ::)  Definitely a nice build.  A few differences in the way we approach certain aspects of the build but that's okay.  There are lots of different ways to do things.   ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 05, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 05, 2020, 04:54:33 PM
Looks great so far Bob.

Thanks Curt!  Been fun so far.   :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: postalkarl on May 06, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
Hey Bob:

I built that when it came out. It's quite A kit. Have fun.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ACL1504 on May 06, 2020, 12:44:35 PM
Bob,

Count me in on the followers on this one. I have the sister to this one so I'll be following closely. Oh, great start as well.

Tom   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Dave K. on May 07, 2020, 07:17:36 AM
Very much enjoying your thread, Bob, even though I can't often post. Love this building...on my build short-list.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 07, 2020, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on May 06, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
Hey Bob:

I built that when it came out. It's quite A kit. Have fun.

Karl

Thanks Karl!  Is there anything you haven't built yet???   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 07, 2020, 07:32:02 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 06, 2020, 12:44:35 PM
Bob,

Count me in on the followers on this one. I have the sister to this one so I'll be following closely. Oh, great start as well.

Tom   ;D

Hi Tom!  Thanks!  Yes, this is the sister kit to the one you have.  Both are really neat looking buildings.  Of course I'll be bringing this one down when it finished for you and the rest of the gang to check out.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 07, 2020, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: Dave K. on May 07, 2020, 07:17:36 AM
Very much enjoying your thread, Bob, even though I can't often post. Love this building...on my build short-list.

Thanks Dave!  I'm really sorry you're having posting issues.  I really enjoy following along with what you're working on.  You'll enjoy building this one when you get to it.   :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Dave K. on May 07, 2020, 07:42:40 AM
I read-up on everyone's projects daily on my i-devices. My modeling has mostly moved to Facebook. Hobby on!
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 11:45:49 AM
Back at it.  Time to show some progress on this one.   ;)

I used a chisel blade in an X-Acto knife handle to lift some of the clapboard walls.  Slip it under the clapboard and twist slightly.  Or twist a lot if you want to snap off a piece of the clapboard to really make it look weathered.  The big trick here is to not slip up and rough up a finger or two.   :o
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111025-442741234.jpeg)

I used MicroScale Industries Micro Krystal Klear to glaze the widows.  Just draw a drop across the back of the windows to create a thin film.  I like the stuff.  I rarely have issues with bubble like I did with Canopy Glue.  I never tried Gallery Glass.  One thing to note, however, is if you opt to use the acetate provided in the kit for this you won't have enough to finish the storefronts so you'll have to find another sheet of acetate to complete the kit. 
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111025-44275740.jpeg)

Next up I added the 1/16" square corner trim to the walls per the templates.  I first examine the four sides of the weathered piece of strip wood to find the best sides to expose and then I apply a thin bead of glue to one of the not so good sides.   :D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111025-44276306.jpeg)

I smooth out/smear the bead of glue with my finger to cover the edge of the strip wood and remove as much excess as I can.  I have a paper towel handy to wipe my finger clean before I handle anything with it and transfer the glue to it.  I don't want glue oozing out when I press the wood up against the edge of the clapboard wall.  Any excess that does ooze out gets scraped off immediately.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111025-442772272.jpeg)

Then it's just a matter or aligning the corner piece with the edge and getting a nice, tight fit.  It's longer than necessary.  That'll get taken care of after the glue grabs.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111025-44278981.jpeg)

Once the glue has taken hold I trim the corner piece to fit with a single edged razor blade.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111142-4427935.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;) 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 11:55:58 AM
I realized I missed a photo/step in the process.  After roughing up the clapboard walls with the chisel blade I painted them with A&I to darken them a bit (actually a bit more than I planned on) and darken any wood exposed by the chisel blade roughing process.

Next up I glued the windows in place.  I used the same Titebond glue for this that I did for gluing wood to wood.  It seems to work fine.  A little glue around the inside opening in the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111142-44280806.jpeg)

Then press the window in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111142-442812309.jpeg)

As luck would have it I came up a wee bit short on the 1/16" square strip wood that I had colored for the main building.  There was one pieced I colored white for on of the roof top sheds.  The rest I colored red for the main building.  I could have pieced two of the shorter remnants together but opted to grab a piece out of my scrap box, paint and weather it so I'd have a piece long enough to finish the job.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111142-44282855.jpeg)

I took sheet of white paper that I painted with Floquil Depot Buff on one side and cut strips wide enough to cover the back of the windows from the rear with a little overhang for gluing.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111143-442832271.jpeg)

Then I cut some short pieces off of the strip, using a square, and added a little glue around the back of the window.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111252-442842329.jpeg)

I positioned the paper in place (Depot Buff side facing the window of course) and the window has a shade.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111252-44285131.jpeg)

More in a moment...  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
Looks like good progress.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
Now it's time to apply one of the signs to the rear wall.  I figured out where I wanted to position it and marked one edge with a light pencil mark using a square.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111252-44286550.jpeg)

I cut out the sign using a steel ruler and sharp #11 X-Acto blade then flipped it over and lightly sanded the back to reduce the thickness as much as I could without actually sanding all the way through the paper.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111253-442871757.jpeg)

While you can use 3M Transfer Tape to adhere the sign to the wall I still prefer to use thinned out Elmer's White Glue.  I put a few drops of Elmer's on mixing board (Post It notes are my mixing board of choice) and then add a couple drops of water to it.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111253-442881994.jpeg)

Mix up the Glue/Water good....
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111402-44289226.jpeg)

Then smear the back of the paper sign with the thinned glue using my finger tip.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111402-44290796.jpeg)

Then I position the sign where I want it.  Now is not the time to be deciding where it should go.  You need to preplan this one.   ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111402-442911405.jpeg)

More in a moment...  ;) 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:12:36 PM
Then, while the glue is still setting, I run my finger nail along each clapboard to press the sign in place to make it appear painted on.  The sheet of plastic over the sign helps prevent any rough edge in a finger nail from snagging and tearing the sign.  I guess I should mention that I scanned the signs into my PC prior to doing this just in case I had any mishaps and needed a new one.   ::)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111403-44292590.jpeg)

I lightly dabbed the sign with a sponge dipped in white paint after which most of the paint was removed from the sponge followed by an earth colored paint to make the sign appear a bit faded.  Then I went over the sign with my ponce wheel where the nail holes got covered up by the sign to complete the illusion that the sign was painted onto the wall.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111403-442932244.jpeg)

Next up is building the two storefronts.  These are layers of laser cut parts.  The instructions call for building them first and then painting them but I prefer to paint and weather everything individually and then build them.  The back of the piece could have been sprayed with spray adhesive for a thin, even coat but I used the old glued/finger smear method.   ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111509-442941943.jpeg)

I just need to make sure the layers are lined up properly when I glue them together.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111510-44295222.jpeg)

Then I added the pilasters (columns) making sure I knew which was the top and which was the bottom and orienting them all the correct way.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111510-442961224.jpeg)

I built the two recessed entrance ways while I was at it.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111510-442972203.jpeg)

More in a moment.... ;)
 

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: chris.mincemoyer on May 17, 2020, 12:19:54 PM
Just picked up a few new techniques, as always
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
Then the recessed entrance ways were glued to the back of the storefronts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111510-442982429.jpeg)

I cut out pieces of acetate to glue to the back of the store fronts.  Butt them up against the entrance way but don't go all the way to the other end!  Go just far enough to cover all the windows.  The end of the storefront will butt up against the walls and you don't want the acetate interfering with the joint.  I used the same Mico Scale glazing material to glue the acetate in place.  After the acetate was set in place I cut out and glued the interiors/signs to the back of the acetate.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111606-442991430.jpeg)

Now the walls are ready to go together.  I had some warping in the walls, in spite of the bracing, that I as hoping would get resolved when the walls were joined together.  For the most part it did.  :)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111606-44300213.jpeg)

When added the storefronts there was a rather noticeable gap between them that wasn't mentioned in the instructions.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111606-443011106.jpeg)

I took a scrape piece of 1/8" bracing material that I stained, painted and weathered to match the storefront and cut it length to fit in the back of the storefront as a corner post.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111606-443022387.jpeg)

Problem solved!  No more gap.  Mr. Wachter makes the bet us of his square footage with two different businesses occupying the same corner space depending on which side of the building you enter.   ;D  ;D  ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111606-44303242.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:29:55 PM
Almost done with my updates for today.  The next issue I ran into was the side and rear doors were a bit smaller than the openings.  I lined the openings, top and sides, with some thin strip wood and sanded everything until the doors fit snug in place.  the strip wood lining wasn't visible when the door frames were glued into place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111659-443041088.jpeg)

I started to assemble the second of the two roof top access sheds next.  This is a small one made up of four sides.  I glued the front to one side and the rear to the other side separately.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111659-443041088.jpeg)

Then joint the two halves to make a whole.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111659-443061068.jpeg)

The other roof top access shed has an interesting roof design.  I cut out the roof.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111700-443072193.jpeg)

Then I glued a provided trapezoid piece to the center of the roof (top) as the instructions called for.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111700-44308697.jpeg)

This piece helps ensure the correct pitch for the pieces when folding them over and gluing them in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-170520111723-443091754.jpeg)

That's all I have for today!  Thanks for following along!  :)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
Looks like good progress.

I'm finding that working from home I can slip in a little workbench time at lunch as well as when I would normally be commuting so I'm getting more done in a week than I used to.   :D  I even managed to break out the airbrush, paint some stuff, clean everything up and get back to work with few minutes to spare over my lunch hour one day.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 17, 2020, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: chris.mincemoyer on May 17, 2020, 12:19:54 PM
Just picked up a few new techniques, as always

Glad to hear it Chris!  Thanks for letting me know.  We're all here to share our experiences, learn and get better at what we do. Most importantly we're having fun doing it!   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: deemery on May 17, 2020, 01:52:01 PM
On that door, you could add some trim on each side of the added filler strips.  That door looks kinda funny to me sunk in like that with no outside trim.  (It's more like a brick building door than a wood frame building door.)

Nice description of the sign weathering, what grit sandpaper are you using?

dave
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PaulS on May 17, 2020, 02:26:24 PM
Very nice Bob !!  Always learn a couple of new things in following along with your build threads.
And a very nice save on the corner gap between the storefronts.   Usually these builds require some patience, creative thinking, and offer exercises in problem solving; well done...
Like you, without the commute time and being able to work from home for the past eight weeks and for the foreseeable future, I am finding a bit more modeling and layout time than I had previously.
Looking forward to your progress.
All the best,
--Paul
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Janbouli on May 17, 2020, 02:44:51 PM
Great build thread/tutorial Bob , not only is your modeling top notch , but your will and way to show us your skills is deeply appreciated.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 17, 2020, 03:16:28 PM
Looking great, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2020, 03:38:31 PM
Everything looks top notch Bob. I really like the sign. Is this for Tom also?
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: jerryrbeach on May 17, 2020, 04:49:25 PM

Bob,


As usual, beautiful modeling.  The way you fixed the corner gap was pretty clever.  I would never have thought to do it that way.  I hope I can remember how you did it if I am faced with a similar situation. 


There sure were a lot of different shirts in the photos.  How many times a day do you need to change your shirt?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: S&S RR on May 17, 2020, 09:02:58 PM
Bob


Another great build and build thread! Thank you for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 06:46:57 AM
Quote from: deemery on May 17, 2020, 01:52:01 PM
On that door, you could add some trim on each side of the added filler strips.  That door looks kinda funny to me sunk in like that with no outside trim.  (It's more like a brick building door than a wood frame building door.)

Nice description of the sign weathering, what grit sandpaper are you using?

dave

Dave,

There is a door frame that goes with the door.  In the picture I was just holding the door in the opening to demonstrate that the opening was bigger than the door itself which made it difficult to glue it in place.  I could have glued it in place along the bottom edge and filled the gaps along the sides and top but I prefer a tighter fit than that.  I'll post a picture of the filler strips I added to get a good fit and the door frame in place afterwards next time I upload a batch of pictures.

The sandpaper I use is 100 grit.  Probably a little too aggressive.  a finer grit would be better but it gets the job done as long as I'm  careful.  If I do sand a tiny hole through the paper in a spot it the sign can still be used.  The weathering will typically cover it up pretty well or, if it's on the black area, a black Sharpie can fill in the spot.  ;)   

Instead of scanning the sheets into my computer in case I mess up and make a replacement I could have run to Staples and made a backup few copies for a buck or two.

Thanks for following along and commenting!
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 06:49:46 AM
Quote from: PaulS on May 17, 2020, 02:26:24 PM
Very nice Bob !!  Always learn a couple of new things in following along with your build threads.
And a very nice save on the corner gap between the storefronts.   Usually these builds require some patience, creative thinking, and offer exercises in problem solving; well done...
Like you, without the commute time and being able to work from home for the past eight weeks and for the foreseeable future, I am finding a bit more modeling and layout time than I had previously.
Looking forward to your progress.
All the best,
--Paul

Thanks Paul!  I figured out the corner post trick for the storefront by carefully examining the photo's of the build on the FOS website after enlarging them a bit.  I suspect that's what was done on the model in that build but it didn't make it into the instructions (or I haven't found it in there yet).  It filled in the corner rather nicely.   :D 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 06:53:54 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on May 17, 2020, 02:44:51 PM
Great build thread/tutorial Bob , not only is your modeling top notch , but your will and way to show us your skills is deeply appreciated.

Thanks Jan!  I really appreciate the comments.  I'm happy to share what I've learned from others here (which certainly includes you). I'm always looking for new tips, tricks, techniques. 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 17, 2020, 03:38:31 PM
Everything looks top notch Bob. I really like the sign. Is this for Tom also?

Thanks Curt!  This one is actually for me.  My wife gave it to me for X-Mas this past year.  Every now and then I have to build one she gave me or she may stop buying them for me.   :P  She already knows I have a huge stash of unbuilt kits but doesn't know what else to buy me for gifts.   ;)

Sorry I missed seeing you at Tom's on Saturday.   :(
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 06:58:38 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on May 17, 2020, 03:16:28 PM
Looking great, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.

Thanks Mark.  Much appreciated!  I'm anxious to see how it looks with all the signs, the billboard and roof access sheds.  It's coming together.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 07:02:26 AM
Quote from: jerryrbeach on May 17, 2020, 04:49:25 PM

Bob,


As usual, beautiful modeling.  The way you fixed the corner gap was pretty clever.  I would never have thought to do it that way.  I hope I can remember how you did it if I am faced with a similar situation. 


There sure were a lot of different shirts in the photos.  How many times a day do you need to change your shirt?  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Jerry.  I figured that corner gap solution out from looking at the photo's of the build on the FOS website after enlarging them a bit.  I'm happy with the way it worked out.

Those t-shirts are my work cloths these day.   ;)  Gotta keep 'em fresh for those webcam meetings.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 18, 2020, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on May 17, 2020, 09:02:58 PM
Bob


Another great build and build thread! Thank you for sharing it with us.

John - Thank you very much.  I appreciate it coming from one of the masters of sharing structure builds, a layout build and countless FSM pictures!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:03:58 AM
Bob,

Excellent build and tutorial thread on the build. Ref. the door not fitting, this is why I always test fit all doors and windows prior to any painting. I'd rather fix it first and then move on.

Looking fantastic.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Jerry on May 19, 2020, 08:09:10 AM
Bob perfect modeling.  An your usual great tutorial.


Jerry
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on May 19, 2020, 09:14:11 AM
Great progress Bob.....it's shaping up nicely.  8)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Opa George on May 20, 2020, 07:14:40 AM
Really nice work on this one, Bob. I am really enjoying following along every day even though I haven't checked in consistently.  Even though I follow your builds regularly, I still am picking up lots of useful tips.  Thanks for all the work you do to post.
--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on May 20, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
Bob,
Great progress and your photos are great reference material for all modelers.
Tommy
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 18, 2020, 10:03:58 AM
Bob,

Excellent build and tutorial thread on the build. Ref. the door not fitting, this is why I always test fit all doors and windows prior to any painting. I'd rather fix it first and then move on.

Looking fantastic.

Tom  ;D


Thanks Tom!  Good point.  These are laser cut doors, not the plastic Tichy door.  I hadn't removed them from the carrier sheets or assembled them when i painted the walls.  It looks like the openings may have been sized to fit Tichy door castings but he switched over to the laser cut doors and forget to resize the openings.  That's just a guess on my part thought.  No big deal.  A little extra work to make them fit.  ;) [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: Jerry on May 19, 2020, 08:09:10 AM
Bob perfect modeling.  An your usual great tutorial.


Jerry


Thank you Jerry.  As usual I see little things I think I did wrong or not exactly like I wanted but when it's all said and done I think it'll look okay.   ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 19, 2020, 09:14:11 AM
Great progress Bob.....it's shaping up nicely.  8)


Thanks Greg!  It is coming together rather quickly.  For me anyway.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: Opa George on May 20, 2020, 07:14:40 AM
Really nice work on this one, Bob. I am really enjoying following along every day even though I haven't checked in consistently.  Even though I follow your builds regularly, I still am picking up lots of useful tips.  Thanks for all the work you do to post.
--Opa George


Thank you George and you're more than welcome.  We all learn from each other's builds.  I've enjoyed following along with yours as well.   :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on May 20, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
Bob,
Great progress and your photos are great reference material for all modelers.
Tommy


Thanks Tommy!  Yes, I hope this helps others who tackle this one.  I found a few challenges along the way.  Nothing insurmountable though.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:30:19 PM
Okay, time for an update.  Back to the minor issue of some of the doors not fitting.  I lined the side and top of the door opening with some thin strip wood first.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121022-44452979.jpeg)


The opening was a little too small so I sanded the opening and the doors until they fit in place.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121022-4445340.jpeg)


The door frame, on all but this one  ::) , concealed the strip wood.  I'm not worried about this one though.  It's at the rear and probably won't be visible to anyone if/when I find a place to plant this a layout some day.  ;D 
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121022-444541377.jpeg)


Here are the two roof top access sheds, pretty much done, except for the addition of a few broken boards here and there.  Each a little model in its own right.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121022-444552000.jpeg)


I covered the main roof with 3M Transfer Tape.  The only thing to be cautious of here is to make sure you do the top of the roof and not the underside.  It only fits on one way.  ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121022-444562235.jpeg)


I trimmed the transfer tape to fit with an X-Acto knife.  Sometimes I use a small set of scissors for this but for a large roof like this one it's just as easy to flip it over and use the X-Acto knife to trim it to fit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-44457831.jpeg)


More in a moment... ;)


Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
When I was ready to apply the roofing material I peeled off the backing material for the transfer tape which left me with a sticky surface.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-44458924.jpeg)


Skipping ahead, because I apparently forgot to take some pictures, I applied the roofing material which I had sprayed with a rattle can spray paint call Black Chalkboard.  I laid the strips out in the direction shown in one of the templates.  Then I hit them with some Pan Pastels.  Grays and Browns.  I'm not even sure which I used.  The chalkboard paint really grabs the Pan Pastels.  You'll note I had some strips that were painted with Gray Primer to represent some repair work.  Well.....let's see what happens with those after a minor faux pas on my part.   ;D
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-444591368.jpeg)


More Pan Pastels, gray this time.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-44460383.jpeg)


This is the first time I tried using a fine tip Sharpie to seal the seams of the roofing material.  It looked pretty good.  Until later on.  ;)
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-44461591.jpeg)


I took the roof out in the garage and sprayed it with Dullcoat to seal it  While I was waiting for that to set I started on the large billboard that's one of the neat features of this kit.  As I was gluing it together I noticed that the one upright doesn't line up with the extension at the top to support the cigarettes sticking out of the pack.  Hmm....
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121127-44461591.jpeg)


Here's where it doesn't line up.  Move the support to line up with it didn't look right.  I had a couple of thoughts on how to deal with this.  Trim the extension of the top of the support off so it looks like the other, shorter pieces or cut the billboard out to cover it up which meant don't cut it where I would normally cut it.  I'll show that next time I do an update.  The pictures didn't come up too well so I need to retake them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121240-444632071.jpeg)


More in a moment... :D

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:54:58 PM

Back to the roof.  I got a bit heavy handed with the Dullcoat and it really changed things.  The lighter gray strips I had added before are now darker than the black strips of roofing material.  The effect was interesting however.  Totally accidental.  But the Sharpie pitch turned a little purplish/washed out so I decide to apply my Elmers White Glue/PollyScale Grimy Black tar along the seams to hide it.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121240-444641599.jpeg)


Something was bugging me for a while now.  When I glued the walls together I tried my darndest to keep everything square but this section never seemed to sit correctly.  When I did a test fit of the lower roof it was obviously not square.  But the walls here are mostly tab in slot so I don't think it was something I did wrong.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121241-444652121.jpeg)


I removed the short wall on the left hand side after measuring things and determining I needed to trim 1/16" off of it.  It was either that or remove the corner trim piece and glue it flush with the adjoining wall but that wouldn't look right either.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121241-444662221.jpeg)


I glued the trimmed wall back into place and the lower roof, albeit still a bit short, fits and thing look square now.  The gap will be covered up by extending the roofing material bit off the back edge.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121349-44467531.jpeg)


Back to the billboard.  I scraped the sign, gently from top to bottom, with some fine steel wool to tone it down just a little bit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121349-444682136.jpeg)


The kit does not include cardboard to mount the billboard on.  The instructions say to use a piece of cardboard from a cereal box.  I have some sheets of cardboard used for roofs that I bought at one of the EXPO's several years ago.  Amazingly I was able to find them.  ;D   I applied 3M Transfer Tape to them and then laid the billboard over the transfer tape.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121349-444692413.jpeg)


More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on May 31, 2020, 12:58:20 PM
I cut around the sign very carefully using an X-Acto knife with a fresh blade and small steel ruler.  I left a little 'extra' on the left hand side of the part that extends above the top of the billboard to cover up the problem with the frame.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121349-44470769.jpeg)


Next I painted the back of the billboard with some craft store acrylic by sponging the paint on lightly.  I didn't want to soak the cardboard and have it warp.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-310520121349-444711834.jpeg)


That's it for today.  Back to the workbench!  ;D   Thanks for following along!



Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ACL1504 on May 31, 2020, 01:53:50 PM
Bob,

Fantastic build and great fix on the "non-fitting" doors. The apartments are looking wonderfully nasty.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on May 31, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
Looking great, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on May 31, 2020, 04:40:54 PM
Beautiful modeling. The billboard framework looks awesome.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on May 31, 2020, 06:30:24 PM
Looking great Bob.....thanks for the tip on the glue bottles, they work perfectly.  :)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 01, 2020, 07:50:47 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on May 31, 2020, 01:53:50 PM
Bob,

Fantastic build and great fix on the "non-fitting" doors. The apartments are looking wonderfully nasty.

Tom  ;D

Thanks Tom.  They're a little bit nastier than I had originally set out to make them.   ::)  But now I'm thinking they might go quite well on the end of the block next to the Red Light District (left hand side) if I ever find the real estate to plant both of them.  :D somewhere. 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 01, 2020, 07:51:11 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on May 31, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
Looking great, Bob.

Cheers, Mark.

Thank you Mark!  Much appreciated.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 01, 2020, 07:51:57 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on May 31, 2020, 04:40:54 PM
Beautiful modeling. The billboard framework looks awesome.

Thanks Curt!  This one has a lot of great signs and the billboard really adds a lot to it.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 01, 2020, 07:53:07 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on May 31, 2020, 06:30:24 PM
Looking great Bob.....thanks for the tip on the glue bottles, they work perfectly.  :)

Thanks Greg.  Good to hear.  I think I told you I was use Titebond III.  I looked at the bottle and it's Titebond II.   :-[ 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Opa George on June 05, 2020, 08:22:51 AM
Looking very cool, Bob.  That billboard support structure is the most elaborate I have seen in a kit. Your results with it are really nice. Quite an impressive piece.

I also enjoy seeing the tv antennas .  Gonna pull in a little Sid Caesar  or Soupy Sales maybe?
--Opa George
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 05, 2020, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Opa George on June 05, 2020, 08:22:51 AM
Looking very cool, Bob.  That billboard support structure is the most elaborate I have seen in a kit. Your results with it are really nice. Quite an impressive piece.

I also enjoy seeing the tv antennas .  Gonna pull in a little Sid Caesar  or Soupy Sales maybe?
--Opa George

Thanks Opa!  Maybe they're tuning in Kukla, Fran & Ollie or Howdy Doody.   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Oldguy on June 05, 2020, 04:01:06 PM
Looking real good.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Jerry on June 18, 2020, 08:58:47 AM
Bob as always a great tutorial.  An beautiful work.


Jerry
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 18, 2020, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on June 05, 2020, 04:01:06 PM
Looking real good.

Thank you Bob!  It's a fun and interesting kit to build.  I'm having a good time with it.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 18, 2020, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: Jerry on June 18, 2020, 08:58:47 AM
Bob as always a great tutorial.  An beautiful work.


Jerry

Thank you Jerry!  Getting close to the end of the build.  Thought I'd be through by now but I keep finding little things to add to it or touch up.  ::)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 18, 2020, 10:14:06 AM
Okay, time for an update.

Still a little hard to see in this picture but if you look close you can see I didn't trim the left hand side of the cigarettes sticking up out of the pack on the billboard as closely as I could have.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115558-445492369.jpeg)

That little 'extra' that I left on there hides the support that didn't line up with the upright on the framework.  I figured this was the least objectionable solution to the issue.  It just didn't look right if that upright was shifted over to line up with the extension at the top of the framework.  I could have trimmed the upright off so it didn't stick up beyond the top of the billboard which would have allowed me to trim the sign the way it should have been.  But I went with this solution and it's not really noticeable.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115558-445511746.jpeg)

I assembled the fire escapes next.  One thing I did different than how they appear in the photo's in the instructions was to put the deck opening on opposite sides for the top and lower escape.  In the photo's the opening is on the right hand side at both levels.  So your little people have to take the ladder down from the upper level to the lower level and avoid falling through the opening in the lower level, run to the other end and then climb over the railing to take the ladder down to the ground.  ;D  Didn't seem right to me so made it a little be safer for them.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115558-445522462.jpeg)

There are a few odd shaped signs in this kit that add a lot of character to the structure.  I'll cover a couple of them here.  The first being this oddly shaped Floyd Grant sign.  I carefully cut out the sign with a sharp X-Acto knife and steel ruler.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115559-44553698.jpeg)

I smeared a little Elmer's White Glue on the laser cut body of the sign with my finger before applying the paper sign.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115559-44554468.jpeg)

Then I carefully positioned the paper sign on the body.  The one thing to be really careful of here is making sure that when you add the sign the to the other side of the body the top and bottom are oriented the same way as the sign on the reverse side.  ???
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115713-445551988.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 18, 2020, 10:21:01 AM
Next up for the Floyd Grant sign is to trim the edge with a strip of plain paper colored silver.  First I cut a strip of paper just a wee bit wider than the sign itself and long enough to wrap around the edge of the sign.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115713-445561066.jpeg)

Then I colored the paper silver with a silver Sharpie.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115713-445571533.jpeg)

And there's the finished sign in place with a wire support bracket.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115713-44558653.jpeg)

Here are the two fire escapes assembled in place.  I'm pretty sure the way this will be oriented on a module I plan on building (someday  ::) ) there won't be a direct line of sight to the rear of the structure.  Pity.  There's some great detail in the rear.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115713-445591797.jpeg)

Another sign that's interesting is the Wacther Apartments sign.  You have to glue four pieces that comprise the body of the sign together in a stack first.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115811-44560106.jpeg)

I cut the sign out and lo and behold it was a little shorter that the 'stack' that makes up the body.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115811-44561425.jpeg)

More in a moment... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 18, 2020, 10:38:02 AM
I shortened the 'stack' to match the sign using a single edge razor blade and a sanding stick to smooth it out afterwards
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115812-44562994.jpeg)

Next up I wanted to add the foundation to the structure and I ran into a couple of issues here.  Two of the steps leading up the doors didn't align with the doors.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115812-445631253.jpeg)

And the structure itself didn't align properly with the base.  If I got one side lined up the other side was off a bit.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115812-44564781.jpeg)

I also found myself with a gap between the side walk and the stairs on both storefronts.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115901-445651343.jpeg)

So, I trimmed of the offending 'steps' that didn't line up (here I did one but hadn't done the other yet).  I also cut out a chunk of the foundation that won't be seen.  Finally I made a cut (not done yet in this photo) to separate the garage foundation from the piece to next to it (basically near the edge at the bottom of where I cut out a chunk of the foundation).  Then I glued on the foundation starting with the garage side first.  After that set I did the two storefront sides.  Finally I did the rest.  That left me with a little gap next to the garage which is right where the coal bin goes so no one will be able to see it.  ;)  Oh, the chunk I cut out earlier?  I cut that in half and used it to fill in the gap between the stairs and the sidewalks on the store fronts.  I also glued the two steps back on, centered beneath the doors.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115901-44566807.jpeg)

I didn't really want to build a base for the structure but found I had to if I wanted to add the fence, the pole an cloths lines so I cut one out of Gatorfoam and roughed in the edge of some streets which I painted and then colored with Pan Pastels.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115901-44567274.jpeg)

I took a little break and messed around with some Tichy Oil Drums that came with the kit (plus some I purchased directly from Tichy) and experimented with AK Interactive Heavy Chipping Fluid.  First I painted the drums a dark rust (Floquil Rust mixed with a little Grimy Black) using an airbrush.  After that cured I brushed on two coats of the Chipping Fluid.  Then I painted the drums with various Polly Scale paints.  Next I stabbed at the drums with a damp, stiff brush to try to chip off some of the paint.  Finally I gave them a wash with a thinned rust color oil paint.  I also messed around with some broken boards by staining them, splattering them with Polly Scale Oily Black, applying chalks, AK Interactive Moss Deposits (thinned), etc. to give them a little more visual appeal than just simply staining them.  Just experimenting.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-140620115901-445682012.jpeg)

That's all for now!  Thanks for following along!
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PRR Modeler on June 18, 2020, 01:15:34 PM
Beautiful modeling Bob. The signage looks awesome.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: WigWag Workshop on June 18, 2020, 02:10:04 PM
I'm getting so much inspiration and ideas seeing this build come together.


-Steven
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on June 18, 2020, 03:02:53 PM
Looking fantastic, Bob!

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: postalkarl on June 18, 2020, 03:35:15 PM
Hey Bob:

It's looking just beautiful. Can't wait to see it finished.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on June 18, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
The barrels look great Bob.  8)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: PaulS on June 18, 2020, 08:12:20 PM
Coming along wonderfully Bob.  And your efforts to make the subtle changes and corrections will ultimately produce a beautiful version of this kit !!

And thanks for sharing your efforts for those who may be building this down the road.
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
All the best
--Paul

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: PRR Modeler on June 18, 2020, 01:15:34 PM
Beautiful modeling Bob. The signage looks awesome.

Thanks Curt!  The kit came with a lot of neat signs that really make the structure stand out.  :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on June 18, 2020, 03:35:15 PM
Hey Bob:

It's looking just beautiful. Can't wait to see it finished.

Karl

Thanks Karl!  Me too!  Almost there.   ::)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on June 18, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
The barrels look great Bob.  8)

Thanks Greg!  I think they turned out okay.  I've got a bunch prepped and ready to paint and chip.  I have to try that chipping fluid on something other than barrels.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
Quote from: PaulS on June 18, 2020, 08:12:20 PM
Coming along wonderfully Bob.  And your efforts to make the subtle changes and corrections will ultimately produce a beautiful version of this kit !!

And thanks for sharing your efforts for those who may be building this down the road.
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
All the best
--Paul

Thank you Paul!  This is a great kit in spite of a few curve balls it threw my way.  Nothing insurmountable though.  I'm almost done and itching to move on to the next build.   ;) 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: WigWag Workshop on June 18, 2020, 02:10:04 PM
I'm getting so much inspiration and ideas seeing this build come together.


-Steven

Steven - Thanks for following along and posting.  Glad to hear your feedback.  I've learned so much from the members of this forum (and it's predecessor) so I'm happy to share what I've learned and what works (or doesn't) for me.  ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on June 19, 2020, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on June 18, 2020, 03:02:53 PM
Looking fantastic, Bob!

Cheers, Mark.

Thanks Mark!  Glad to have you following along.  Almost finished! It's amazing how long it takes me to finish a build when I think I'm almost finished.   ::)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 18, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
Time to resurrect this thread from the dead and finish it off.  This build was completed a while back but something about it bugged me so I set it aside to work on other things until I could come up with a solution.

The Dry Cleaner sign has small tabs that stick out a provide very little gluing surface to mount it to the wall.  I don't know how many times I knocked it off but I finally drilled some small holes both it and the wall and then used some fine brass wire to fine brass wire to mount it to the wall.  That made it a little sturdier.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-090720122833-449241867.jpeg)

Here's the wires I added to the sign to solve the sturdiness problem.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-090720122833-44925389.jpeg)

The laundry on the cloths line is printed on paper and needs to be carefully cut out.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-090720122833-449261930.jpeg)

I made a 'core' to light up the structure.  Some windows were blocked out inside so not every apartment appears to have the lights on.  The core drops down into the building and the main roof is just placed on top.  It's tight enough that it doesn't need to be glued in place.  Part of what was bugging me about the finished model was the cloths lines.  They're made from heavy monofilament fishing line and I simply could not get them installed to look like they were hanging naturally.  More on that later.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-090720122833-449271327.jpeg)

Here's the top of my light core.  You can also see the cloths lines bend inwards.  In some cases that arc upwards instead of downwards at the center.  D'oh!
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-090720122833-4492823.jpeg)

They just didn't look good.  Plain and simple.  So I put this aside until now.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421121946-489341213.jpeg)

More in a moment.... ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 18, 2021, 12:34:57 PM
This past weekend I ripped out all the cloths lines and replaced the monofilament fishing line with floral wire.  It's not perfect but it gave me more control and they don't look nearly as bad now.
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421121946-489351822.jpeg)

So here are the final pictures...
(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421121947-489361686.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421121947-489371946.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421121947-489381247.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122038-489391825.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122038-48940383.jpeg)

More in a moment...  :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 18, 2021, 12:37:17 PM
And the last few....

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122038-489411988.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122039-489421578.jpeg)

Hard to see since I didn't wait until it was dark in the house but it does light up.  8)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122039-489432238.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122107-48944945.jpeg)

(https://modelersforum.com/gallery/56-180421122107-489451517.jpeg)

Thanks for following along.  Sorry for the long delay to get to the finish line.  ::)

Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: cuse on April 18, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
Wow...I missed this whole thread...that is a showstopper of a build. Beautiful!!


John
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ACL1504 on April 18, 2021, 01:21:55 PM
Bob,

Fantastic build for sure. I forgot all about this build thread.

Tom  ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: tom.boyd.125 on April 18, 2021, 01:36:27 PM
Bob,
Just what Tom said...forgot about this thread.
Are all those signs used from the kit or did you change any around ?
Know you are short on storage room so we have several cabinets available here...
Great job again and you did this kit well....You builds are always the best too !
Tommy
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Mark Dalrymple on April 18, 2021, 03:48:35 PM
This came up really nicely, Bob.

Its packed with interest like the smattering of TV aerials sticking out of the roof.  I think the florist's wire is a definite improvement to the clothes line.  I wonder whether adding some white glue to the clothes and crinkling them up a bit might help take some of the flatness away?  I also wondered whether laminating two items of clothing together and adding a thin lead weight between might provide enough weight to create a realistic sag on line made from embroidery thread?  Just really thinking about thigs to try when making my own clothes line.  It does sound like a lot of work...

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Janbouli on April 18, 2021, 04:00:35 PM
Wow , that is one awesome building , and of course thank you for the great build thread.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 07:03:34 AM
Quote from: cuse on April 18, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
Wow...I missed this whole thread...that is a showstopper of a build. Beautiful!!


John

Thank you John!  Another FOS gem for sure.  Some challenges here and there but nothing that couldn't be overcome.  Lot's of interesting features on this one.  :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 07:04:42 AM
Quote from: ACL1504 on April 18, 2021, 01:21:55 PM
Bob,

Fantastic build for sure. I forgot all about this build thread.

Tom  ;D

Thanks Tom!  Yeah, this one was finished but not really.  I moved it off to the workbench in the garage until I came up with a solution for the cloths line dilemma.  It's been nagging at me for several months now.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 07:05:26 AM
Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on April 18, 2021, 01:36:27 PM
Bob,
Just what Tom said...forgot about this thread.
Are all those signs used from the kit or did you change any around ?
Know you are short on storage room so we have several cabinets available here...
Great job again and you did this kit well....You builds are always the best too !
Tommy

Thank you Tommy!  The signs are the one's that came with the kit.  I didn't change them up.  I liked them the way they were.   ;)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 07:08:30 AM
Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on April 18, 2021, 03:48:35 PM
This came up really nicely, Bob.

Its packed with interest like the smattering of TV aerials sticking out of the roof.  I think the florist's wire is a definite improvement to the clothes line.  I wonder whether adding some white glue to the clothes and crinkling them up a bit might help take some of the flatness away?  I also wondered whether laminating two items of clothing together and adding a thin lead weight between might provide enough weight to create a realistic sag on line made from embroidery thread?  Just really thinking about thigs to try when making my own clothes line.  It does sound like a lot of work...

Cheers, Mark.

Thanks Mark!  Interesting ideas for the cloths line.  Maybe cloths made out of the heavy foil found on the top of a wine bottle would provide enough weight to make the embroidery thread sag and they could be bent a little so they aren't so flat.  I'm not sure where I'll be using this one but all four sides have features of interest so if it's not visible from all angles something will have to be hidden from view.   :P
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: Janbouli on April 18, 2021, 04:00:35 PM
Wow , that is one awesome building , and of course thank you for the great build thread.

Thank you Jan and you're welcome!  This one was a lot of fun to build in spite of some minor challenges here and there.  It sure has a lot of really interesting features.   :o
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Keep It Rusty on April 19, 2021, 08:52:45 AM
One of my favorites of Doug's kits. He really shines here.

And you've done it a great justice, Bob. Nice work!
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: GPdemayo on April 19, 2021, 08:55:46 AM
A terrific build Bob, and wonderful details.....great job.  8)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Oldguy on April 19, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
Damn!  That's really good.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
Quote from: Keep it Rusty on April 19, 2021, 08:52:45 AM
One of my favorites of Doug's kits. He really shines here.

And you've done it a great justice, Bob. Nice work!

Thank you Craig!   :)  I agree, Doug really created an interesting structure.  So many neat details to look at regardless of the angle you view it from.  I sure hope I can find some place to use it some day.  ::)
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: GPdemayo on April 19, 2021, 08:55:46 AM
A terrific build Bob, and wonderful details.....great job.  8)

Thanks Greg!  I've got quite a few things to bring along for the next show and tell down at Tom's.   ;D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 19, 2021, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Oldguy on April 19, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
Damn!  That's really good.

Thanks Bob!  It's a really neat kit that was a lot of fun to build.   ;D 
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Judge on April 19, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
I completely missed this build.  All I can say is WOW! And how about a pic with the building lit up in the dark?   Amazing lightwork!
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: postalkarl on April 19, 2021, 05:53:47 PM
Hey Bob:

Looks just great and I love the wash line.

Karl
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: craftsmankits on April 19, 2021, 10:57:06 PM
Love the way this kit is turning out.  Didn't realize some of the finer points of the kits design.  May have to get one of these some day.  Keep up the good work.

Mark
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 20, 2021, 06:58:35 AM
Quote from: Judge on April 19, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
I completely missed this build.  All I can say is WOW! And how about a pic with the building lit up in the dark?   Amazing lightwork!

Thank you your Honor!  I'll see what I can do about getting a few night shots and adding them to the thread.   ;)

P.S. - I hope the recovery is coming along smoothly and we'll get to connect in person soon.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 20, 2021, 06:59:59 AM
Quote from: postalkarl on April 19, 2021, 05:53:47 PM
Hey Bob:

Looks just great and I love the wash line.

Karl

Much appreciated Karl!  The wash line was a bit of a challenge but in the end it was worth it.  Great kit from Doug.
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: ReadingBob on April 20, 2021, 07:00:46 AM
Quote from: craftsmankits on April 19, 2021, 10:57:06 PM
Love the way this kit is turning out.  Didn't realize some of the finer points of the kits design.  May have to get one of these some day.  Keep up the good work.

Mark

Thank you Mark!  Yes, this design has a lot of interesting features for sure.   :D
Title: Re: FOS The Wacther Apartments
Post by: Jerry on April 20, 2021, 09:07:05 AM
I missed this one to.


What a beautiful job you did on this!!


Jerry